Ex-FEMA Director Michael Brown: Obama Reacted to Hurricane Sandy Too Quickly

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Former FEMA Director Michael Brown, forced out of office after his disgraceful lethargic response to Hurricane Katrina, is now accusing President Obama of responding to Hurricane Sandy too quickly.

“Brownie, you’re doing a heck of a job.” - G.W. Bush

“One thing he’s gonna be asked is, why did he jump on [the hurricane] so quickly and go back to D.C. so quickly when in…Benghazi, he went to Las Vegas?” Brown says. “Why was this so quick?… At some point, somebody’s going to ask that question…. This is like the inverse of Benghazi.”

Brown is not the only one making the insinuation that Obama and his administration are responding too quickly to Sandy only for political reasons. He’s joined in his accusations by such prominent right-wing commentators as former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and columnist Charles Krauthammer.

Also see
Ex-FEMA Chief Lays Blame for Katrina - Says Bush Team Dropped Ball by Focusing on Terror - SFGate

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271 comments
1 Kragar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:09:42pm

Eat a bag of dicks Brownie.

2 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:10:25pm

Brownie really shouldn't be lecturing anyone about how to or not to respond to disasters. Heckuva job Brownie, heckuva job asshole.

3 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:11:04pm

Does this ass hole not understand the difference between a foreign disturbance involving dozens of people and a major fucking disaster that affects MILLIONS?

4 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:11:47pm

Just a little (space) between "ass" and "hole" gives it so much more punch.

5 GeneJockey  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:12:06pm

My first thought when I read that an hour ago was that it had to be The Onion.

My second thought was how hard it must be to write for The Onion these days.

6 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:12:11pm

Brown's complaining that President Obama is responding too quickly to a natural disaster. Guess Brown would consider waiting a couple of days before having boots on the ground competent?

What an asshat.

President Obama and the governors along the path of Sandy did their jobs. That meant getting out ahead of the storm and making necessary preparations, prepositioning people and equipment, and making the necessary executive orders, emergency declarations, and filings to fulfill legal requirements to get aid in as quickly as possible.

The NYC metro area is an economic engine to the nation. If it takes a huge hit, it's going to hurt everyone else - so getting it back up and running fast is good for everyone especially for those who are here on the ground picking up the pieces.

7 erik_t  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:12:21pm

re: #3 Sheila Broflovski

Does this ass hole not understand the difference between a foreign disturbance involving dozens of people and a major fucking disaster that affects MILLIONS?

Ah, but we can't blame a hurricane on anything although that pesky climate change would seem plausibly relevant. We can blame four deaths on brown people who aren't even Americans.

Republican life is pointless without blame.

8 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:12:50pm

The likes of Michael Brown is exactly who Mitt Romney would place to run FEMA.

9 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:13:20pm

Who says the GOP doesn't have a sense of humor?

Coming up next, a lecture on mentorship from Mark Foley.

10 Kragar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:14:02pm

re: #2 HappyWarrior

Brownie really shouldn't be lecturing anyone about how to or not to respond to disasters. Heckuva job Brownie, heckuva job asshole.

In related news, the Chicago Cubs called up the SF Giants to give them a few pointers on how to play baseball.
/

11 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:15:05pm

re: #8 Gus

The likes of Michael Brown is exactly who Mitt Romney would place to run FEMA.

Well yeah considering what Romney thinks of FEMA. He'd probably give it to a chum. If I recall, Brown's job before running FEMA was running something to do with horse racing.

12 jaunte  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:15:25pm

Krauthammer:

“It’s up to the governors mostly. The White House and the governors release money. That’s about all that they do. And he’s really good at releasing money and pretending it’s not about politics."

Sandy is more of a political problem for the party that wants to get rid of FEMA and other government assistance.

13 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:15:36pm

re: #10 Kragar

In related news, the Chicago Cubs called up the SF Giants to give them a few pointers on how to play baseball.
/

Or how to win in October.

14 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:16:07pm

re: #9 Obdicut

Who says the GOP doesn't have a sense of humor?

Coming up next, a lecture on mentorship from Mark Foley.

Followed by help-wanted ads seeking part-time "luggage jugglers."

15 aagcobb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:16:09pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

Or how to win in October.

Cubs: "They play baseball in October?"

16 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:16:11pm

re: #12 jaunte

Krauthammer:

Sandy is more of a political problem for the party that wants to get rid of FEMA and other government assistance.

Krauthammer again shows why he's a partisan hack.

17 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:16:47pm

re: #15 aagcobb

Cubs: "They play baseball in October?"

Ha!

18 jaunte  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:16:58pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

Natural disasters: notoriously unfair to privatization.

19 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:17:02pm

You're doing a heckuva...oh, fuck you, Brownie.

20 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:18:14pm

Brownie is just pissy because Obama's team learned from past mistakes in general, and Brownie's mistakes in particular.

21 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:18:15pm

re: #18 jaunte

Natural disasters: notoriously unfair to privatization.

We've got to let the free market sort out these disasters. That the president thinks the government responding to disasters is an attack on free enterprise. //

22 aagcobb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:18:32pm

Obama's reaction to Brownie's comments

23 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:20:25pm

Anyhow, I checked to see who Obama's FEMA director was. I know nothing of the guy outside the biography wiki provided but it seems like Fugate has pretty much had a career in disaster management. He was a Jeb Bush and Charlie Crist appointee too of Florida's state level FEMA equivalent.

24 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:23:02pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

So he lacks critical training in the horse-trading arena.

25 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:23:21pm

Now this is cool and part of the spirit of working together in times of crisis. Just saw via Senator Mark Warner's facebook page that Virginia's search and rescue team has been deployed to New Jersey to help out.

26 Kragar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:23:36pm

In a stunning move, FRC's Boykin endorses Obama

Boykin: Christians Must Vote So Our Soldiers Will Have "A Commander in Chief That Cares About Them"

Recently Jerry Boykin, the Family Research Council's Executive Vice President, appeared on "The John Ankerberg Show" where the two spent most of the interview discussing Iran and Israel, but eventually turning to the upcoming election with Ankerberg asking Boykin why it was important for Christians to vote, which prompted Boykin to reply that he gets "angry and frustrated with Christians who don't vote" because it shows that they don't care about giving members of our military a "Commander in Chief that cares about them:"

27 funky chicken  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:23:49pm

What the hell happened to Krauthammer? He didn't used to be insane right, did he?

28 Joanne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:24:13pm

Hey, wassamattau peoples? Leave my Cubbies alone!!!! :-(

29 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:24:15pm

re: #24 Obdicut

So he lacks critical training in the horse-training arena.

Yeah, hopefully he's rode a horse before though because that could help a little.

30 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:24:28pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

Now this is cool and part of the spirit of working together in times of crisis. Just saw via Senator Mark Warner's facebook page that Virginia's search and rescue team has been deployed to New Jersey to help out.

Socialism!

31 aagcobb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:24:47pm

re: #27 funky chicken

What the hell happened to Krauthammer? He didn't used to be insane right, did he?

Probably a severe case of ODS

32 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:24:47pm

re: #27 funky chicken

What the hell happened to Krauthammer? He didn't used to be insane right, did he?

Just like the rest of these hacks. Obama happened.

33 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:25:08pm

re: #27 funky chicken

What the hell happened to Krauthammer? He didn't used to be insane right, did he?

He wasn't always insane but he's always been a bit of a partisan hack. At least since I started reading him in the early Bush years.

34 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:25:59pm

re: #27 funky chicken

Krauthammer has moments; he's not a creationist, for example. But like every other right wing pundit and right wing blogger, he's gone full metal wingnut since Obama's election.

And I do mean every. Single. Pundit. And Blogger. All of them have gone nuts.

35 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:26:27pm

re: #22 aagcobb

Obama's reaction to Brownie's comments

36 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:26:30pm
37 Joanne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:26:37pm

re: #27 funky chicken

What the hell happened to Krauthammer? He didn't used to be insane right, did he?

Sorry, for as long as I've seen him on the teevee machine, he's been insane.

38 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:27:50pm

Personally, I'm glad Brownie reared his ugly head...it's yet another reminder of what kind of leadership we could expect from a Romney (Bush redux) administration.

39 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:28:20pm

Argh. Dersh drives me crazy.

40 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:29:03pm

re: #38 darthstar

Personally, I'm glad Brownie reared his ugly head...it's yet another reminder of what kind of leadership we could expect from a Romney (Bush redux) administration.

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Yeah I am too. Romney through his comments has shown he doesn't think FEMA is important. So as I said, I'm inclined, he'd just stick some friend in charge of it rather than a pro. I mean this is how we got Brownie after all.

41 funky chicken  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:29:48pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

Completely batshit insane.

My dad sends us crazy videos from Fox News all the time, and they are universally devoid of facts. I'm amazed even educated, seemingly intelligent people believe stuff like this, but my parents are prime examples of formerly sane folks who do.

42 aagcobb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:29:50pm

re: #38 darthstar

Personally, I'm glad Brownie reared his ugly head...it's yet another reminder of what kind of leadership we could expect from a Romney (Bush redux) administration.

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I would have to think that the Romney Campaign had to wince when they saw Brownie's quote.

43 William of Orange  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:30:54pm

To be fair, I think Brown meant too quick... for his taste...

44 labman57  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:31:06pm

Translation: Obama's continuing efforts to be proactive, responsive, decisive, and receptive to the needs of the American people is all part of a political contrivance to make people believe that the POTUS is proactive, responsive, decisive, and receptive to the needs of the American people.

45 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:31:37pm

I'm utterly shocked to discover the right wingers have unified behind pushing a glib talking point based on a lie.

The only thing that could shock me more would be if they cynically exploited the deaths of US citizens to denigrate their opponents and maintain an artifice of moral uprightness.

Next thing you know, they'll be suggesting that patriotism can only emanate from adherence to their narrow policy positions, and that noncompliance is treasonous and somehow foreign.

46 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:31:39pm

re: #42 aagcobb

Doubt it. Any criticism no matter how invalid is to be championed by Romney and his campaign so as to beat Obama.

That's the name of the game. Beat Obama. Doesn't matter how - anything goes.

47 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:31:54pm

re: #41 funky chicken

Completely batshit insane.

My dad sends us crazy videos from Fox News all the time, and they are universally devoid of facts. I'm amazed even educated, seemingly intelligent people believe stuff like this, but my parents are prime examples of formerly sane folks who do.

My grandmother was like that but since he's been president she's grown to like President Obama. Wonder if my grandfather would have turned out the same but he passed a week or so before the president was inaugurated. It wasn't really ideological. Both of them especially her were diehard Hillary supporters who felt that Obama was "mean" to Hillary. I pointed out on numerous accessions that the mud-flinging went both ways.

48 Patricia Kayden  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:32:22pm

#8 Gus,

You've got that exactly right. That's why I hope Romney is not elected on November 6th. The fact that Brown has the balls to open his mouth and say anything about President Obama's superb handling of Hurrican Sandy says it all about Romney and his supporters. Does he think that we've forgotten about his mishandling of Hurricane Katrina and the way he and Bush left people to drown in Louisiana?

They're delusional.

49 Kragar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:32:27pm

Glenn Beck mocks disaster victims

While the former Fox News and CNN Headline News personality did not find a way to blame President Barack Obama for the hurricane itself, he did make it a point to disparage the people of New York City and to tie the natural disaster to the raid on the U.S. consulate in Libya, in which, he alleges, Navy SEAL personnel called on the president for help, but “he let them die.”

Regarding New York City and the approach of Hurricane Sandy, Beck said, “Eighteen million people live in that general area. Eight million live on that island. Most of whom sit around and watch ‘The Daily Show’ every night and get a good hearty laugh at the host making fun of Glenn Beck for saying ‘food storage.’”

“That’s where they get their news,” he said. “They are wildly unprepared, just waiting for the government to save eight million people.”

He went on to discuss the attack in Benghazi.

“When the president called the Navy SEALs,” he intoned, “they killed Osama bin Laden, but when the Navy SEALs called the president, he let them die.”

50 sauceruney  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:34:01pm

Heck of a job, brown-eye

51 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:34:27pm

Mr. Brown, you may not fully understand this, but the American people were sort of freaked out by the results of Katrina for the people of New Orleans and environs. We now all fear meeting the same fate in case of a bad natural disaster. As a result, we actually kind of like it when there is a speedy and effective response to a looming big-ass storm.

I am as pissed as anyone that Americans died in Benghazi, but curiously, it never occurred to me that the appropriate way to honor their memories was to let a whole bunch of other Americans get killed in said big-ass storm. That's because that's STUPID.

52 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:34:35pm

re: #49 Kragar

Glenn Beck mocks disaster victims

Fuck that asshole so fucking hard. People are fucking dead and Glenn Beck wants to use this to attack them because he doesn't like the ideology of many people who live there.

53 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:35:13pm

re: #49 Kragar

Glenn Beck mocks disaster victims

The important thing is, people who made fun of Glenn Beck are suffering.

54 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:36:33pm

re: #47 HappyWarrior

My grandmother was like that but since he's been president she's grown to like President Obama. Wonder if my grandfather would have turned out the same but he passed a week or so before the president was inaugurated. It wasn't really ideological. Both of them especially her were diehard Hillary supporters who felt that Obama was "mean" to Hillary. I pointed out on numerous accessions that the mud-flinging went both ways.

I wanted the job for Hillary, and I still have a slight animus against Obama for winning it instead. But he has grown on me considerably.

55 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:37:36pm

re: #54 SanFranciscoZionist

I wanted the job for Hillary, and I still have a slight animus against Obama for winning it instead. But he has grown on me considerably.

And she likewise on me though I didn't vote in the primaries.

56 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:38:18pm
57 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:38:44pm

re: #56 Gus

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They all deserved it for mocking Glenn Beck.//

58 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:39:30pm

I had to go back an reread this as I could not believe my eyes. Now that being said, go fuck yourself Brownie.

59 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:40:19pm

re: #49 Kragar

Glenn Beck mocks disaster victims

Everyone I was in touch with in NYC had food and water stocked, and many had made elaborate emergency preparations. That does not actually turn back the wrath of God, although in the right circumstances, it can help quite a bit.

So let me see if I've got the likes of Beck straight--those in Katrina's path deserved to die because they were poor and black, and those in Sandy's deserved to die because they are Jon Stewart fans, but if Glenn Beck's domicile gets hit by a storm...

60 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:40:20pm

LaGuardia Airport underwater.

61 Kragar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:40:21pm

re: #57 HappyWarrior

They all deserved it for mocking Glenn Beck.//

If they lived in a bunker in Wisconsin made out of gold coins and survival seeds, then nothing bad would have happened to them.

62 aagcobb  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:40:53pm

re: #46 lawhawk

Doubt it. Any criticism no matter how invalid is to be championed by Romney and his campaign so as to beat Obama.

That's the name of the game. Beat Obama. Doesn't matter how - anything goes.

Well, yeah, if it actually helps. I would think criticism from "heckuva job Brownie" that the President is responding too quickly doesn't help Romney's cause.

63 JamesWI  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:41:44pm

The Twitter user responsible for all those fake Sandy stories designed to create a panic (such as the floor of NYSE being flooded, Con Ed shutting down all power, all subway service shut down for a week)?

Big Shocker.....He's a Republican hedge fund analyst and Romney supporter who supposedly attended the Republican Convention and organized phone banks for Romney.

Hey DF, thumb me down - The Rapeublican Party is fucking evil.

64 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:41:58pm

I hate to offend anyone who's struggled with alcohol abuse here but I can see why the man is an alcoholic and former drug addict.

65 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:41:59pm

Mmm....Nike.

Image: 425679_181704238601289_1739876335_n.jpg

66 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:43:18pm

By the way, I've switched all my image posting and management over to the LGF Image Library system. For years I dumped them all in one huge folder because it was easier, but the new uploading system makes it very quick and easy to get them into the Image Library, nicely organized and searchable.

67 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:43:22pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

LaGuardia Airport underwater.

HOLY CRAP

68 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:44:00pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

Well, it did start out as a marine air terminal. /

According to reports, JFK is expected to reopen to service tomorrow. Newark may also reopen tomorrow. LGA may be longer.

69 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:44:42pm
70 Interesting Times  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:45:28pm

re: #67 Sheila Broflovski

HOLY CRAP

71 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:47:04pm

OT, but I posted this downstairs regarding the question of election observers. In Massachusetts, at least, it does seem possible that they could interfere with voting. From a document from the Secretary of State's office (doc file):

Any person may challenge a voter for any legal cause. G. L. c. 54, §§ 85, 85A (2002 ed.); 950 C.M.R. 54.04(23). Such reasons are numerous and include that a person: is not who they say they are; does not live where they say they live; is not registered in the correct district; is not qualified to vote by absentee ballot; was not registered to vote by the close of registration; or, has already cast a ballot. It is not sufficient for the challenger to simply say that a voter is not qualified; the challenger must state the specific reason for challenging the right of a person to vote, and that specific reason must be recorded on the ballot. If a person makes a challenge for an unspecified reason, the election worker should thereafter ask the challenger what specific reason they wish to have recorded. If, after being so questioned by the election official, the challenger gives no specific reason, the voter should be permitted to vote, and should not be considered a challenged voter.

Note this says any person and does not contain any language excluding observers, or providing for any sanction against frivolous challenges. And if the observers are there and challenge enough people, they might certainly intimidate voters into not voting, or slow down the process enough so that some voters decide they can't afford to wait. Of course we don't really expect that in Mass., but if any other states have similar laws this kind of thing could happen there.

73 funky chicken  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:47:29pm

re: #63 JamesWI

The Twitter user responsible for all those fake Sandy stories designed to create a panic (such as the floor of NYSE being flooded, Con Ed shutting down all power, all subway service shut down for a week)?

Big Shocker.....He's a Republican hedge fund analyst and Romney supporter who supposedly attended the Republican Convention and organized phone banks for Romney.

Hey DF, thumb me down - The Rapeublican Party is fucking evil.

Holy cow....Mitt needs to tell his friends to stop trying to help him. Brownie, Beck, and this clown. Wow.

74 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:49:42pm

re: #73 funky chicken

Holy cow....Mitt needs to tell his friends to stop trying to help him. Brownie, Beck, and this clown. Wow.

I encourage them to continue helping to their black little hearts' content.

75 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:50:16pm

By the way, for those of you who like independent journalism, follow @weeddude on twitter. Despite his party handle, he's a serious and committed journalist who stays on top of stuff and vets his information well.

[Link: twitter.com...]

76 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:52:26pm

Mitt Romney - media coward.

77 Aye Pod  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:53:11pm

Former FEMA Director Michael Brown :Damn Obama for makin me look bad n stuff!

Saving lives for political gain: can he sink any lower?

Btw that was me being sarcastic not a genuine Ojoe comment.

78 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:54:39pm

re: #76 darthstar

Mitt Romney - media coward.

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Of course. Ask Mitt a hard question and he refuses to answer. It would be nice if the press got on his ass about this because it's a perfectly legitimate question to ask in a time like this.

79 abolitionist  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:55:33pm

I'd like to thank Robert Fitzroy for pioneering the modern science of weather forecasting. (No other endorsement is intended.)

80 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 12:58:07pm
81 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:02:03pm

re: #80 Gus

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Well I hope the voters respond to his lying bs by voting against him next week.

82 Digital Display  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:03:01pm

This last few days I've been thinking about all the disasters I've been involved in. The 89 quake in the Bay area, The 2011 Tornado outbreak in Oklahoma but the worst was the Napa river 100 year flood event. It was terrifying watching everything from the valley racing past. Cars, Houses, debris. A few years later we had another 100 year flood. The city started planning to control the river and determined the only way to do this was to move the Wine train terminal away from the river but it would provide a long term solution.
So you want to know why I despise the GOP and the Drudge report?
When we got 54 million to move the wine train the first headline on Drudge was how Obama gave 54 million to the Napa wine train.
Those stupid ass fools just don't get it. It still pisses me off

83 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:03:11pm

re: #49 Kragar

Glenn Beck mocks disaster victims

Can I channel Michael Moore and cock-punch Michael Brown and Glenn Beck now?

84 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:03:18pm

Too much politics. It was no good with Katrina & it is no good with Sandy. Politicians shut up for a week, please. There is real work to do.

85 erik_t  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:04:17pm

re: #84 Ojoe

Too much politics. It was no good with Katrina & it is no good with Sandy. Politicians shut up for a week, please. There is real work to do.

Bullshit. The GOP doesn't get to offload responsibility for their terrible policies precisely when their terrible policies are best revealed to be terrible.

86 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:04:45pm

re: #84 Ojoe

Too much politics. It was no good with Katrina & it is no good with Sandy. Politicians shut up for a week, please. There is real work to do.

The week before the election? Not a chance.

87 Interesting Times  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:05:02pm

re: #84 Ojoe

Too much politics. It was no good with Katrina & it is no good with Sandy. Politicians shut up for a week, please. There is real work to do.

Sorry your beloved Alpha Male™ is too cowardly to answer questions.

88 erik_t  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:05:43pm

re: #87 Interesting Times

Sorry your beloved Alpha Male™ is too cowardly to answer questions.

But it's the smart political ploy to get elected.

/shitty 'defense' I expect to hear from the usual parties

89 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:06:20pm

It's not politicizing to point out that one of these candidates wants to privatize disaster response efforts. And it's not politicizing to call him out for refusing to answer reporters' questions about those comments.

90 Mentis Fugit  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:08:13pm

The word "literally" is sadly misunderstood and misused by many, many people. Here is an example of its correct - dare I say LITERAL - usage:

Michael "Heckuvajob Drownie" Brown is LITERALLY the last person on earth who is entitled to say what he just did.

91 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:08:35pm

Fakery 2: More Funny Finances, Free Of Tax (via Desmogblog)

Follow the money. October 23, PBS Frontline's Climate of Doubt gave viewers an hour's coverage of the tactics of climate anti-science, its advocates and a quick look into the funding behind it. Read on to follow the money deeper into the funny finances, all free of tax. Last February, Fake Science…

92 Interesting Times  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:09:57pm
93 Aligarr  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:10:04pm

I've had this suspicion for years .In fact ever since being drafted in 1968 , my suspicions have been deepening , and now , .....now I know for sure .
Some how , some way , through some unscrutable mechanism , I've been transferred to ....BIZZARRO UNIVERSE !!!!!!!

94 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:10:11pm

Yeah. Mitt Romney wants to be president and Brownie is saying stupid things so shut up! Got it.

95 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:12:03pm

re: #93 Aligarr

Youtube Video
96 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:14:48pm
97 GunstarGreen  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:15:04pm

Remember this on election day folks. In their quest to smear the President in all cases, no matter the cost, the Republicans are now blaming him for reacting too quickly to help out fellow Americans in a time of crisis. They are now openly advocating that the right thing to do is to leave people to rot in the wake of a natural disaster, purely because it is the opposite of what Obama is doing.

98 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:16:22pm

re: #49 Kragar

Glenn Beck mocks disaster victims

I'd like to make a proposal: Drop Michael Brown into a flooded area with only Glenn Beck as a floatation device.

99 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:17:27pm

re: #86 wrenchwench

The week before the election? Not a chance.

What she said.

100 Cheechako  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:18:18pm

Here's FEMA's Daily Briefing for today:FEMA Daily Briefing 10/30/2012

Lots of equipment,resources and personnel are being moved into the Northeast.

Here's a summary of the National Wildland Fire resources which have already been ordered. I expect many more fire crews will soon be ordered.

Firefighters Mobilize to Assist With Hurricane Sandy Response

101 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:18:22pm

re: #97 GunstarGreen

Remember this on election day folks. In their quest to smear the President in all cases, no matter the cost, the Republicans are now blaming him for reacting too quickly to help out fellow Americans in a time of crisis. They are now openly advocating that the right thing to do is to leave people to rot in the wake of a natural disaster, purely because it is the opposite of what Obama is doing.

Part of the thinking behind Chris Christie's praise for Obama is to show that not ALL Republicans are that stupid and soulless, but many of them are still knee-jerking, there's no stopping it at this point.

102 funky chicken  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:20:50pm

re: #98 Dark_Falcon

I'd like to make a proposal: Drop Michael Brown into a flooded area with only Glenn Beck as a floatation device.

I think they should both get one-way tickets to Benghazi. Let them set up a radio station there.

103 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:21:55pm

re: #97 GunstarGreen

Remember this on election day folks. In their quest to smear the President in all cases, no matter the cost, the Republicans are now blaming him for reacting too quickly to help out fellow Americans in a time of crisis. They are now openly advocating that the right thing to do is to leave people to rot in the wake of a natural disaster, purely because it is the opposite of what Obama is doing.

Please don't confuse Michael Brown with the GOP as a whole. He's been in the doghouse ever since Katrina. Frankly, I think he just said this latest DERP! in order to get attention.

104 funky chicken  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:22:19pm

re: #101 AK-47%

Nah. I think Chris Christie is an actual grown-up. He can be obnoxious, and I don't always agree with his politics, but he's not crazy.

105 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:23:08pm

re: #76 darthstar

Mitt Romney - media coward.

I want to see that footage.

106 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:24:59pm

re: #102 funky chicken

I think they should both get one-way tickets to Benghazi. Let them set up a radio station there.

No, the people of Benghazi have suffered enough.

107 funky chicken  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:25:22pm

re: #103 Dark_Falcon

Please don't confuse Michael Brown with the GOP as a whole. He's been in the doghouse ever since Katrina. Frankly, I think he just said this latest DERP! in order to get attention.

Sorry dude, but over half of the GOP is batshit insane, and Romney's kowtowing to them like crazy. If he wins, the batshit win with him.

And we don't need more tax cuts for rich folks and fewer regulations. If that was a recipe for a booming economy we wouldn't have gone through so much trouble the past 5 years.

108 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:25:59pm

re: #84 Ojoe

Too much politics. It was no good with Katrina & it is no good with Sandy. Politicians shut up for a week, please. There is real work to do.

The President (and state officials out East) is the one working. Romney is the one pandering for votes using a political rally disguised as a fundraiser.

109 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:26:01pm

I hope Pat Robertson and Jerry Sandusky get some quality time together in the afterlife.

110 GunstarGreen  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:26:21pm

re: #103 Dark_Falcon

Please don't confuse Michael Brown with the GOP as a whole. He's been in the doghouse ever since Katrina. Frankly, I think he just said this latest DERP! in order to get attention.

Michael Brown may not represent the GOP as a whole, but Newt Gingrich most certainly does, given how frequently he appears in GOP media and his recent run for the nomination.

There are, of course, some GOPers that are reasonable about this, Christie among them. But they are the fluff on the fringe of a solid core of scum and villainy.

111 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:26:37pm

Breitbart.com's Joel Pollak is lying again.

Calls for Cutting FEMA Are Not Coming From Inside the White House.

112 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:27:36pm

re: #107 funky chicken

Even those who are insane think Brown is an ass. He's not Rush Limbaugh, he's not even David Frum; Michael Brown represents no one but himself.

113 GeneJockey  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:27:58pm

re: #103 Dark_Falcon

Please don't confuse Michael Brown with the GOP as a whole. He's been in the doghouse ever since Katrina. Frankly, I think he just said this latest DERP! in order to get attention.

It's more that he's emblematic of the whole GOP approach to governance, which is that they don't believe government can do any real good, so why bother even trying. Thus, the appointment of a guy whose executive experience was limited to running a horse club to the head of the agency tasked with disaster preparedness in a nation of 300,000,000 that's subject to hurricanes, earthquakes, tornadoes, etc. Thus, Romney's glib answer of rolling FEMA back to the states - helping citizens in dire need is not what the GOP thinks government is for. It's for killing swarthy foreigners.

114 GeneJockey  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:29:23pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

Breitbart.com's Joel Pollak is lying again.

Calls for Cutting FEMA Are Not Coming From Inside the White House.

The call is coming from inside the house!!

115 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:29:57pm

re: #112 Dark_Falcon

Even those who are insane think Brown is an ass. He's not Rush Limbaugh, he's not even David Frum; Michael Brown represents no one but himself.

Just like your man, Mitt Romney. Does Michael Brown have your vote too?

116 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:30:04pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

Breitbart.com's Joel Pollak is lying again.

Calls for Cutting FEMA Are Not Coming From Inside the White House.

As a reply to what you said. The matter of who is to be faulted about the sequester is a complex one.

117 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:30:57pm

re: #116 Dark_Falcon

As a reply to what you said. The matter of who is to be faulted about the sequester is a complex one.

No, it isn't. The document says explicitly that the White House does not support any cuts to FEMA. That's very simple.

118 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:31:13pm

re: #115 efuseakay

Just like your man, Mitt Romney. Does Michael Brown have your vote too?

I don't know of any politically aware person who would vote for Michael Brown, not even for dogcatcher.

119 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:31:35pm

Derpity derpy do!

120 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:32:26pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

No, it isn't. The document says explicitly that the White House does not support any cuts to FEMA. That's very simple.

No one wants the sequester. I was just trying to highlight its complex genesis. I wasn't trying to pick a fight.

121 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:33:12pm

re: #119 Gus

Derpity derpy do!

Yunno, there was a time when you had to go into a bar to overhear a conversation like that, now the whole world can follow it.

122 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:34:48pm

re: #118 Dark_Falcon

I don't know of any politically aware person who would vote for Michael Brown, not even for dogcatcher.

Same for Romney, yet here you are.

123 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:35:33pm

re: #121 AK-47%

Yunno, there was a time when you had to go into a bar to overhear a conversation like that, now the whole world can follow it.

...

Israel S.Right
@FoundingFodder
Conservatism creates jobs. liberalism creates slobs. @dloesch @patdollard follow me.Blocked by Olbermann,Rosanne Barr Salman Rushdie,Keith ellison

Derp! LOL Blocked by Salman Rushdie. I already blocked him. 7 Tweets within 10 minutes. Manic.

124 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:35:37pm

As for Politifact's "ruling" on that issue, it's another example of why I don't bother reading them very much any more. They're obsessed with nit-picking minutiae and coming to "judgments" based on hair-splitting, and I'm sorry -- but that's usually not the path to getting at the truth.

125 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:37:41pm

re: #123 Gus

...

Derp! LOL Blocked by Salman Rushdie. I already blocked him. 7 Tweets within 10 minutes. Manic.

Israel S.Right = Furious Typer

Furious Typer’s combat strategy is to drown her adversary in a tsunami of angry verbiage. She is absolutely immune to subtlty and ignores all but the barest essentials of any argument. After breifly appraising the gist of her opponent’s counter attack she puts her head down and rapidly fires off long rambling messages replete with grammitical and factual errors. The typical Furious Typer lacks endurance, however, and if the other combatants can weather the initial assault she will quickly exhaust herself and retire from the field.

126 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:39:17pm

‘Star Wars’: New feature film set for 2015

“Star Wars: Episode 7″?

It’s happening according to a news release just issued by the Walt Disney Co., which just announced its acquisition of Lucasfilm.

The new film is targeted to open in 2015, with Lucasfilm’s Kathleen Kennedy serving as executive producer and George Lucas serving as creative consultant, the release said.

Additional feature films are expected to “continue the ‘Star Wars’ saga and grow the franchise well into the future,” the statement said.

– Gina McIntyre

127 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:40:03pm

re: #120 Dark_Falcon

No one wants the sequester. I was just trying to highlight its complex genesis. I wasn't trying to pick a fight.

The genesis wasn't complex. The GOP, in an unprecedented fashion, held the US hostage while trying to force cuts in spending during a recession. There was never a time before where a party actually blocked the debt ceiling from being raised. The GOP was fully willing to cause a shutdown in government to force austerity on the US. The sequestration came from a deal given at the insistence of Republicans that a set of cuts be agreed on and made by a bipartisan committee or automatic sequestration-- cuts-- would occur, because the GOP was demanding cuts in the first place.

Do not try to pull the bullshit that the sequestration is the Democrats' 'fault' because they actually did the responsible thing, played politics, gave in to the GOP demands for austerity because they recognized the GOP was actually serious in its suicide dive and decided not to play chicken with the US economy for political advantage.

That is all on the GOP. The sequestration, the hostage-taking negotiation, that is entirely on the GOP.

128 GunstarGreen  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:40:48pm

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

Should have just let it die. The prequel trilogy made it quite clear that the original trilogy was only good because of the non-Lucasfilm people involved.

129 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:41:03pm

The argument in that Politifact piece can be turned right around, to illustrate its absurdity.

Suppose Romney accused President Obama of trying to cut FEMA's budget. After carefully nit-picking over the record, Politifact would conclude that because Obama only brought up the sequester as a bargaining chip and never intended to actually promote it, and then explicitly opposed cutting FEMA in the sequester, Romney's claim is "Mostly False."

Everybody's false! And everything you know is wrong.

130 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:41:35pm

re: #112 Dark_Falcon

Even those who are insane think Brown is an ass. He's not Rush Limbaugh, he's not even David Frum; Michael Brown represents no one but himself.

re: #118 Dark_Falcon

I don't know of any politically aware person who would vote for Michael Brown, not even for dogcatcher.

But you're wrong, because Brown's comments perfectly encapsulate what is now the dominant GOP position: Anything that can be conceived to be used against President Obama, whether it's true or not, whether it makes sense or not, will be done or said.

Brown might have been considered a pariah after his incompetent leadership of FEMA before, during and after Katrina, but people like him typify what a Romney administration would be staffed with...a scary thought indeed, among others.

131 erik_t  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:42:18pm

Michael Brown probably thinks that a seventh Star Wars movie is a good idea.

132 jaunte  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:43:43pm

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

Maybe this time they'll hire a writer.

133 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:45:57pm

re: #121 AK-47%

Yunno, there was a time when you had to go into a bar to overhear a conversation like that, now the whole world can follow it.

Only if "you" put it out there!

134 AK-47%  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:45:59pm

re: #132 jaunte

Maybe this time they'll hire a writer.

Hire Michael Brown

135 jaunte  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:47:26pm

re: #134 AK-47%

Jar-Jar Brown?

136 JamesWI  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:47:36pm

Hey guys, stop talking politics during the disaster!.....

What a fucking joke. Rapeublicans.

137 erik_t  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:47:47pm

re: #134 AK-47%

Hire Michael Brown

Given how freaking long it drug out and how badly they repeatedly botched the ending, I wonder if he wrote Return of the King.

138 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:47:50pm

re: #99 Dark_Falcon

What she said.

There's a shirt for that.

Image: thats_what_she_said_dark_tshirt.jpg

139 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:49:36pm

re: #136 JamesWI

Hey guys, stop talking politics during the disaster!.....

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What a fucking joke. Rapeublicans.

Breaking: John McCain said something.

140 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:50:08pm

re: #138 darthstar

There's a shirt for that.

Image: thats_what_she_said_dark_tshirt.jpg

So meta...

141 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:50:32pm

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

‘Star Wars’: New feature film set for 2015

I was waiting for this. Lucas's original treatment called for 9 movies, with the first set of 3 being episodes 4, 5 and 6. Of course, what he came up with for the first trilogy significantly depresses one's appetite for the third.

142 JamesWI  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:50:47pm
143 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:51:23pm

Back from my walk. Took some pics and paged it.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

144 Kragar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:51:34pm

Supreme Court Rejects Personhood Appeal In Oklahoma

By rejecting the appeal, the justices left in place a lower court’s decision that found a personhood measure in Oklahoma would violate the Constitution.

Only four of the nine justices have to agree for the court to take a case, so Monday’s rejection could be a sign that the court’s four conservative justices aren’t interested in wading into personhood, a concept that has divided opponents of abortion rights. [...]

The justices do not explain their decisions to accept or deny cases, and did not offer an explanation for declining to hear the personhood suit.

145 Joanne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:51:50pm

re: #136 JamesWI

Hey guys, stop talking politics during the disaster!.....

What a fucking joke. Rapeublicans.

More of the Bring Canned Goods that the Red Cross said they neither need nor want. The GOP is a throwback in everything they do.

146 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:52:56pm

re: #142 JamesWI

Romney's "non-political" storm relief event in Ohio included a screening of his campaign video thkpr.gs/RnYDnO

It makes a certain kind of sense. Anyone who can say that his sons, though not in the military, were "serving their country" by trying to get him elected President, is perfectly capable of thinking that he's helping the victims of Sandy by trying to get Ohio voters to give him their electoral votes.

147 JamesWI  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:53:45pm

McCain on Libya in 2009 - Hey, it would be a great idea to give Qaddafi some weapons!!!

Yeah, this is the guy I want to talk about failures in Libya.

148 Mattand  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:54:38pm

re: #143 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Back from my walk. Took some pics and paged it.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

That's pretty much what it's like in my corner of South Jersey. Even the Cooper River by me (which is much narrower than it is in Camden) is receding quickly.

From what I'm hearing on KYW, Philly, for the most part, dodged a bullet.

149 nines09  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:54:41pm

It seems the stupid knows no limits or boundaries. Just remember the kind thoughts you had for Christie as he actually gave president Obama praise on a good job when he spits out the next GOP/TP lie. John McCain? Now there is a real joke. A. Real. Joke. Gingrich and Charles Krauthammer can go drown themselves too. What. A. Joke.

150 Kragar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:54:51pm

re: #146 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

It makes a certain kind of sense. Anyone who can say that his sons, though not in the military, were "serving their country" by trying to get him elected President, is perfectly capable of thinking that he's helping the victims of Sandy by trying to get Ohio voters to give him their electoral votes.

Anyone who claims being a missionary for his Church is exactly like serving your country in the military during a time of war is a lying son of a bitch who has no place being in command of US troops.

151 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:56:07pm

re: #141 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

I was waiting for this. Lucas's original treatment called for 9 movies, with the first set of 3 being episodes 4, 5 and 6. Of course, what he came up with for the first trilogy significantly depresses one's appetite for the third.

Wait, it Just Got Worse. This was announced as part of the announcement that DISNEY bought LucasArts? If there is any company that can FUBAR a story worse than George can screw up Star Wars it's Disney. Shudder...

152 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:56:11pm

re: #148 Mattand

That's pretty much what it's like in my corner of South Jersey. Even the Cooper River by me (which is much narrower than it in Camden) is receding quickly.

From what I'm hearing on KYW, Philly, for the most part, dodged a bullet.

My impression as well. Though there is probably a lot of small scale damage out in the suburbs. And the power outages as well. Northern NJ and the NYC area caught it a lot worse.

153 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:57:15pm
154 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:58:22pm

re: #153 darthstar

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Disney will use it to produce a movie with a proper Space Princess as well. Need it for the merchandising lines.

155 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:59:06pm

re: #153 darthstar

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Leia's toast once she has Han's kid...

156 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:59:30pm

re: #142 JamesWI

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Because nothing makes people feel better about bringing a can of Hormel chili to a 'relief effort' than a heartwarming video about how the candidate, the child of an auto executive and governor, had to come to accept a life of affluence and privilege.

157 dragonfire1981  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:00:46pm

Now this is funny.

158 Kragar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:00:53pm

Disney also brought us Thor, Captain America, and The Avengers. As long as Lucas is kept away from the directing and script, maybe they can put something good together.

159 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:01:45pm

re: #155 William Barnett-Lewis

Leia's toast once she has Han's kid...

Disney will screw that up. Han and Leia had twins. A boy and a girl.

160 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:02:18pm
161 Kragar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:02:27pm

re: #159 efuseakay

Disney will screw that up. Han and Leia had twins. A boy and a girl.

3 kids, twins and another son later.

162 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:02:38pm

re: #151 William Barnett-Lewis

Wait, it Just Got Worse. This was announced as part of the announcement that DISNEY bought LucasArts? If there is any company that can FUBAR a story worse than George can screw up Star Wars it's Disney. Shudder...

That depends. Pixar is now wholly owned by Disney. They still do pretty good work, even since the acquisition (Wall-E, Up, Toy Story 3). I think it matters who's in charge and how much independence s/he has.

163 nines09  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:03:07pm

re: #156 darthstar

Because nothing makes people feel better about bringing a can of Hormel chili to a 'relief effort' than a heartwarming video about how the candidate, the child of an auto executive and governor, had to come to accept a life of affluence and privilege.

He had to eat day old baguette. Sometimes with no butter. Unheated. The pain.

164 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:03:16pm

re: #159 efuseakay

Disney will screw that up. Han and Leia had twins. A boy and a girl.

I know. That's why I used the singular instead of plural. They'll mess it all up. All that EU stuff will be as hosed as the 1st generation of Star Trek novels.

165 Kragar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:03:39pm

The real question: Will they bring in Mara Jade?

166 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:03:44pm

re: #147 JamesWI

McCain on Libya in 2009 - Hey, it would be a great idea to give Qaddafi some weapons!!!

Yeah, this is the guy I want to talk about failures in Libya.

McCain is a good example of the douche canoe.

167 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:04:11pm

re: #160 darthstar

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This is getting pathetic.

168 erik_t  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:04:16pm

re: #160 darthstar

My lord, it looks like a middle school bake sale.

169 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:04:29pm

re: #161 Kragar

3 kids, twins and another son later.

Dammit. I didn't get that far yet! ;)

170 sagehen  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:06:00pm
171 Kragar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:06:07pm

re: #169 efuseakay

Dammit. I didn't get that far yet! ;)

After 20 years, it ceases to be a spoiler.

It would be nice if they just adapted the Zahn books into a new trilogy.

172 nines09  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:06:42pm

re: #168 erik_t

My lord, it looks like a middle school bake sale.

Don't forget they have to put it in that U-Maul truck and drive it from there to Atlantic City or somewhere. Probably pay the driver 10 cents a mile and he gets a free sleeping bag.

173 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:06:50pm

re: #165 Kragar

The real question: Will they bring in Mara Jade?

I would really like it if they did an animated version of Timothy Zahn's Heir to the Empire trilogy of novels.

174 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:07:52pm

But. But. Daily Kos!

//

175 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:08:06pm

re: #171 Kragar

After 20 years, it ceases to be a spoiler.

It would be nice if they just adapted the Zahn books into a new trilogy.

Yup. That would be pretty wicked. I still have those books here. Somewhere.

176 Kragar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:08:29pm

re: #173 Dark_Falcon

I would really like it if they did an animated version of Timothy Zahn's Heir to the Empire trilogy of novels.

Plot? Character Development? Dialog? A Jedi cares not for these things.

177 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:09:13pm

re: #160 darthstar

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Now they're collecting canned goods in Wisconsin?

Next: Utah!

178 dragonfire1981  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:09:20pm

A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...under the sea!

179 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:09:57pm

re: #175 efuseakay

Yup. That would be pretty wicked. I still have those books here. Somewhere.

Heir to the Empire was out in a 20th Anniversary Edition earlier this year.

180 KiTA  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:11:28pm

So Brownie saying he did a bad job means Obama nailed this one perfectly, right? I mean, these people live in Bizzaro world, so if they're saying one thing we should do the exact other, right?

181 Kragar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:11:32pm

re: #175 efuseakay

Yup. That would be pretty wicked. I still have those books here. Somewhere.

I could totally see Michael Fassbender pulling off Grand Admiral Thrawn.

And I wouldn't mind seeing Mila Jovovich as Mara Jade.

182 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:12:03pm

Everything You Know Is Wrong.

There's a seeker born every minute.

Youtube Video
183 A Mom Anon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:12:11pm

re: #160 darthstar

Hasn't the Red Cross said like nine million times that in big disasters that it
is nearly impossible to deliver donated canned goods and food brought in from outside the disaster region? If the roads are flooded or strewn with mud and debris,the cleanup crew would be the only people allowed on the roads along with medical personnel. Right? So why not just collect money for the Red Cross who happens to know what the hell they're doing?

I get wanting to help,but wouldn't it be nice to like,ask the people in need what they actually NEED?

184 gwangung  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:12:44pm

re: #183 A Mom Anon

I get wanting to help,but wouldn't it be nice to like,ask the people in need what they actually NEED?

That's not Mitt's thing.

185 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:13:04pm

re: #170 sagehen

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You gotta love hearing that.

186 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:14:30pm

re: #183 A Mom Anon

Hasn't the Red Cross said like nine million times that in big disasters that it
is nearly impossible to deliver donated canned goods and food brought in from outside the disaster region? If the roads are flooded or strewn with mud and debris,the cleanup crew would be the only people allowed on the roads along with medical personnel. Right? So why not just collect money for the Red Cross who happens to know what the hell they're doing?

I get wanting to help,but wouldn't it be nice to like,ask the people in need what they actually NEED?

That would make sense, yes. What I did after the Haitian earthquake was the text ten bucks for the Red Cross. I was on a student's budget at the time but I felt those people deserved some help even a small bit.

187 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:16:13pm
188 freetoken  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:16:53pm

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

Some reports are that new Star Wars movies could come out every other year.

Now that is overexposure.

189 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:17:38pm
190 freetoken  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:17:39pm

re: #187 Gus

They are trying to come up with something, anything, to pin on President Obama that its almost cute.

191 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:17:41pm

re: #183 A Mom Anon

re: #184 gwangung

That's not Mitt's thing.

Actually, the Romney people have put out a FaceBook post (and most likely other social media venues) that links directly to the Red Cross page where you can donate money

192 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:17:50pm

More tweets from pool reporters here

When the people you're feeding and glad handing on the trail to make you look good start shooting out daggers in disgust, you know you're desperation is showing and that you're fucked...in Ohio.

Yeah...some volunteer.

193 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:18:56pm

re: #191 sattv4u2

re: #184 gwangung

Actually, the Romney people have put out a FaceBook post (and most likely other social media venues) that links directly to the Red Cross page where you can donate money

[Link: www.redcross.org...]

194 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:19:08pm

re: #187 Gus

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McCain's a bitter man. Sad. There are times to get political. At a volunteer thank you and appreciation event though?

195 erik_t  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:19:08pm

re: #192 darthstar

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(can't wait for the book)
(can't wait for the book)
(can't wait for the book)
(can't wait for the book)

196 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:19:42pm

re: #181 Kragar

I could totally see Michael Fassbender pulling off Grand Admiral Thrawn.

And I wouldn't mind seeing Mila Jovovich as Mara Jade.

I bet they could find a role for Kate Beckinsale too. Please. Pretty please!!!

197 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:19:43pm

Everything You Know Is Wrong, Part 2.

Bet you didn't know the South won the Civil War.

Youtube Video
198 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:20:03pm

It’s a Small Galaxy After All by Jonah Goldberg

Word has just come out that Disney is buying LucasFilm for just over $4 billion and that it intends to make new Star Wars movies, ultimately a new one every two to three years.

I will let that news sink in for those of you hearing this for the first time.

Okay, I’m just thinking out loud here.

My first reaction was horror. I joked on twitter about “Herbie the Love Bug as R2D2″ and “Lord Vader, we have received reports that the Apple Dumpling Gang is on the ice planet Hoth.”

But then I thought, “Who cares?” it’s not like Disney could do more to sully the franchise than Lucas already has. I mean, so what if Justin Timberlake plays Luke Skywalker and Johnny Depp plays C3P0? And what’s the big deal if Jar-Jar Binks gets his own sitcom on ABC? And of course, the Star Wars Christmas special with Yoda delivering presents to all the good boys and girls. After such innovations, I like to imagine George Lucas saying to the execs at Disney “we had a deal.” And they respond “Pray we don’t alter it further.”

199 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:20:20pm

re: #195 erik_t

(can't wait for the book)
(can't wait for the book)
(can't wait for the book)
(can't wait for the book)

I just hope Disney buys the movie rights to the Romney campaign after it's over.

200 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:20:35pm
201 jamesfirecat  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:20:49pm

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

‘Star Wars’: New feature film set for 2015

At the very least it should give Mr. Plinkett some new material to work with!

202 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:21:07pm

re: #192 darthstar

As is so often the case with the GOP, the choice is whether the Romney campaign was malicious and duplicitous in claiming that they wouldn't campaign at these relief events and then immediately doing so, or whether they're incompetent and unable to control the message even at their own campaign events.

203 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:21:24pm

re: #198 Dark_Falcon

It’s a Small Galaxy After All by Jonah Goldberg

Nah Johnny Depp only starts as creepy characters in Tim Burton's movie these days or as a Pirate of the Carribean. // Depp frustration rant off since I liked him a bit in both Blow and Donnie Brasco.

204 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:22:25pm

Image: 552204_4644329313603_1221277376_n.jpg

205 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:23:10pm

Star Wars on Ice promises to be fun.

206 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:23:50pm

Image: Js1Yk7EUBUWZyq8vvbPiKw2.jpg

207 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:24:12pm

So, we remake the Godfather but with zombies!

208 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:24:31pm

re: #202 Obdicut

As is so often the case with the GOP, the choice is whether the Romney campaign was malicious and duplicitous in claiming that they wouldn't campaign at these relief events and then immediately doing so, or whether they're incompetent and unable to control the message even at their own campaign events.

It's the same thing as done by the Obama campaign, only with the more honorable John McCain taking the role of attack surrogate, as opposed to Slick Willy taking on the attack role for Obama.

209 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:24:43pm

re: #205 darthstar

Star Wars on Ice promises to be fun.

Barnum and Bailey Present Star Wars, The Trilogy Three Ring Circus

210 dragonfire1981  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:25:06pm

re: #207 HappyWarrior

So, we remake the Godfather but with zombies!

I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse...again.

211 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:25:30pm

re: #205 darthstar

Star Wars on Ice promises to be fun.

They already did that in The Empire Strikes Back.

212 efuseakay  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:25:44pm

John McCain as Sebulba.

213 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:26:07pm

CNN plugs Romney-FEMA call...commenters aren't buying it.

[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]

214 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:26:44pm

re: #208 Dark_Falcon

It's the same thing as done by the Obama campaign, only with the more honorable John McCain taking the role of attack surrogate, as opposed to Slick Willy taking on the attack role for Obama.

Is Clinton using relief events to attack Romney? There's a time and place for McCain to play attack dog. At a thank you event for volunteers is completely inappropriate.

215 freetoken  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:26:47pm

re: #197 Charles Johnson

Bet you didn't know the South won the Civil War.


[Video]

I rate that as Mostly False.

216 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:27:22pm

re: #208 Dark_Falcon

Downdinged for calling McCain 'honorable'.

217 Kragar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:27:58pm

The best news out of the Disney/Lucas deal:

GEORGE LUCAS WON'T RUIN ANOTHER STAR WARS MOVIE!

218 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:28:38pm

re: #215 freetoken

I rate that as Mostly False.

Youtube Video
219 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:29:32pm

re: #210 dragonfire1981

I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse...again.

Leave the Gun, take the alveoli.

220 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:29:44pm

re: #208 Dark_Falcon

It's the same thing as done by the Obama campaign, only with the more honorable John McCain taking the role of attack surrogate, as opposed to Slick Willy taking on the attack role for Obama.

First of all, please quote something from Clinton that's as dishonorable as calling Obama "grossly incompetent".

Second, Obama is the leader of the country during a moment of crisis. Romney is not. It is unequal footing, but Obama earned that footing by being elected president and continues to earn it by doing an excellent job during this crisis. Undermining the president in this moment, rather than simply selling the positive aspects of Romney, is not honorable.

221 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:31:00pm

re: #212 efuseakay

John McCain as Sebulba.

Chris Christie as Jaba The Gov.
Dennis Kucinich as Yoda (tell me they're not related!!)

222 [deleted]  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:31:52pm
223 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:32:33pm

Uh oh.

224 Kragar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:33:09pm

Matt Staver pledges to keep pushing Personhood, even though the Supreme Court just let it die

Even though the Supreme Court hasn't accepted the appeal, efforts to approve a personhood amendment in Oklahoma will not end.

The Oklahoma Supreme Court last spring halted the personhood petition drive to let voters decide whether to define a person as any human being from the beginning of biological development until natural death (see earlier story). This week, the U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear the case.

Staver, Mat (Liberty Counsel)But Liberty Counsel founder Mat Staver tells OneNewsNow this is not the end of the line for the personhood drive in Oklahoma.

"We may consider one of two, or both options: One is to initiate a separate action in court regarding this matter, or two, ask the legislature to change the statute so that the Supreme Court does not have the option to interfere with the initiative process," Staver explains.

225 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:34:05pm

re: #222 goddamnedfrank

Um. Did you have to drop the f-word?

226 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:35:16pm

re: #187 Gus

[Embedded content]

McCain thinks that if they had airdropped Palin onto Sarah that would have scared the hurricane into running for Europe.
//

227 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:35:43pm

re: #224 Kragar

Matt Staver pledges to keep pushing Personhood, even though the Supreme Court just let it die

This sounds a lot like Rand Paul saying that ACA was still unconstitutional even though SCOTUS ruled it was. Refusing to live in reality must suck.

228 erik_t  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:36:16pm

re: #222 goddamnedfrank

Not sure I'm a fan of that one even in wingnut-blockquotes.

229 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:36:48pm

re: #222 goddamnedfrank

Was going to upding you to off-set the downdings you're bound to get for calling McCain an old faggot - but I can't support gay bashing, even if I dislike the addled old soulless fucker as much as you do.

230 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:37:00pm

re: #198 Dark_Falcon

It’s a Small Galaxy After All by Jonah Goldberg

It will only work if they alter the deal and make Lucas wear clown shoes and refer to himself as "Mary".

231 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:38:04pm

re: #229 darthstar

Was going to upding you to off-set the downdings you're bound to get for calling McCain an old faggot - but I can't support gay bashing, even if I dislike the addled old soulless fucker as much as you do.

No worries. By the end of the day it will have more updings than downdings

{sigh}

232 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:38:21pm

re: #80 Gus

The Morning Plum: Romney's Jeep-to-China lie earns brutal headlines in Ohio (@theplumlinegs /... washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-lin... memeorandum.com/121030/p82#a12...

— memeorandum (@memeorandum) October 30, 2012

I just heard that ad on my radio when I was at lunch. His other ad I have been hearing starts out blaming Obama for the financial mess we are in, totally ignoring the 8 years before Obama was elected. Fucking liars.

233 Kragar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:38:27pm

Bryan Fischer loves thinking about butt sex

No, you can read the Constitution from front to back, back to front, upside down, from right to left and hanging from a chandelier and you will find no mention whatsoever of any right to engage in sodomy. You won’t find it because it’s not there. It simply does not exist as a constitutional right, no matter what the fevered brains of six black-robed tyrants said in 2003.

I will also note there is no mention in the Constitution about the right to play video games, eat a peanut butter sandwich, or using the bible as a book of law.

234 garhighway  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:38:49pm

re: #199 darthstar

I just hope Disney buys the movie rights to the Romney campaign after it's over.

The animatronic Romney will be a big hit.

235 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:39:02pm

Bill Maher nails it.

Image: 602495_507598802584436_2143041857_n.jpg

236 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:39:13pm

re: #225 Gus

Um. Did you have to drop the f-word?

You have to show respect to get respect. I'm kind of done with watching a damaged thirty four year old virgin pretend that his pathetic, bigoted heroes are the only ones off limits.

237 R.M. Ramallo  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:39:20pm

Wag the Dog

TP Flashback:
In his interview with Fox News’ Chris Wallace, former President Bill Clinton noted that the political right, which now accuses him of not doing enough to stem the al Qaeda terrorist threat, criticized his 1998 missile strikes in Afghanistan as “wag the dog.” Clinton said:

"The people on my political right who say I didn’t do enough spent the whole time I was president saying, Why is he so obsessed with bin Laden? That was wag the dog when he tried to kill him."

Righties never learn. Their crap is so old, it's new again.
//

238 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:40:10pm

re: #236 goddamnedfrank

You have to show respect to get respect. I'm kind of done with watching a damaged thirty four year old virgin pretend that his pathetic, bigoted heroes are the only ones off limits.

Still. Not cool.

239 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:40:37pm

re: #236 goddamnedfrank

Calling someone a faggot as an insult is stupid unless you're Louie C.K. and you include the clarifying five minute monologue.

240 erik_t  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:41:59pm

re: #238 Gus

Still. Not cool.

This is why God invented the word douche-canoe. I thought we went over this.

241 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:42:10pm

re: #238 Gus

Still. Not cool.

So the fuck what?

No, you're right. Bad words are so much worse than actually opposing civil rights and marriage equality for the people they represent.

242 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:42:58pm

So

My day off. Wifey and I went out for brunch, she stayed out to do errands and I came home to prep a scrumptious dinner

Phone rings, wifey asking me for directions to The Wild Wing Cafe in our area. Seems as if she neglected to tell me that it's her end-of-season tennis team get together!!

So ,,, anyone want to come over for stuffed mushrooms, bay scallops wrapped in bacon, a nice garden salad, chicken marsala and roast red bliss potatoes?!?!?!?

//

243 Obdicut  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:43:35pm

re: #241 goddamnedfrank

It's not worse. It's still stupid to use a word that means 'gay' as an insult. There's no fucking reason to do it, the English language is rife with words that aren't used to slur gay people.

Would you call McCain a n*****? No. Don't call him a faggot, either.

244 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:44:12pm

re: #241 goddamnedfrank

So the fuck what?

No, you're right. Bad words are so much worse than actually opposing civil rights and marriage equality for the people they represent.

so the bad words are okay as long as they're directed at someone you don't like, but if they're aimed at someone you do like,,, OUTRAGE!!

Got it

245 R.M. Ramallo  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:44:23pm

re: #241 goddamnedfrank

So the fuck what?

No, you're right. Bad words are so much worse than actually opposing civil rights and marriage equality for the people they represent.

Dude, it's like calling Allan West the N-word.
I understand the sentiment, but it crosses the line.

246 darthstar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:45:50pm

re: #236 goddamnedfrank

You have to show respect to get respect. I'm kind of done with watching a damaged thirty four year old virgin pretend that his pathetic, bigoted heroes are the only ones off limits.

McCain's not off-limits...far from it. Still, the use of the word 'faggot' as an epithet isn't cool.

Things you can call John McCain (that are also true and accurate descriptions):
addled
soulless
unethical
dishonest
dishonorable
hypocritical
corrupt
There are plenty more...

247 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:46:14pm

Well, just managed to get off the block and drive around Fair Lawn, Ridgewood, Paramus, and Glen Rock.

Our block got off lucky. The Fair Lawn post office and apartments near us weren't so lucky. Both have trees blocking access with a tree branch hung up in power/cable/phone lines - the only thing keeping it from coming down. Tree leaning against apartments.

Majestic tree lined streets now have multiple trees down throughout Glen Rock. Major streets are mostly passable, but secondary roads aren't so lucky. Even some major streets, like Maple Ave (a NJ Transit bus route) has trees and power lines down.

Paramus has numerous power outages, but Garden State Plaza is open. The parking lot is being used as a staging area, and mutual assist folks from Florida are encamped there as well. We're going to need all that kind of help and then some.

With so many trees leaning or entangled in power lines, we could still lose power despite having it through the storm.

All in all, it's an eye opener for anyone who hasn't been through a hurricane before and should be a reminder to everyone to be prepared for severe weather no matter where you are.

248 funky chicken  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:47:59pm

re: #233 Kragar

Bryan Fischer loves thinking about butt sex

I will also note there is no mention in the Constitution about the right to play video games, eat a peanut butter sandwich, or using the bible as a book of law.

I don't believe I've read anything giving the government the right to ban sodomy either, of course.

249 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:48:40pm

re: #248 funky chicken

I don't believe I've read anything giving the government the right to ban sodomy either, of course.

JUDICIAL ACTIVIST! But yeah.

250 BongCrodny  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:49:11pm

re: #241 goddamnedfrank

So the fuck what?

No, you're right. Bad words are so much worse than actually opposing civil rights and marriage equality for the people they represent.

I don't have much in common with the sort of people who use that word in day-to-day conversation.

I have absolutely no idea why you think it's okay.

251 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:49:12pm

And on that note

BBIAB

252 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:49:13pm

re: #246 darthstar

McCain's not off-limits...far from it. Still, the use of the word 'faggot' as an epithet isn't cool.

Things you can call John McCain (that are also true and accurate descriptions):
addled
soulless
unethical
dishonest
dishonorable
hypocritical
corrupt
There are plenty more...

Soulless he is not, nor is he corrupt. The only one of those things he is is hypocritical, and that one applies to pretty much the entire Senate.

253 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:50:36pm

re: #231 sattv4u2

No worries. By the end of the day it will have more updings than downdings

{sigh}

No, it won't. Charles just deleted the post.

254 Kragar  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:51:08pm

re: #234 garhighway

The animatronic Romney will be a big hit.

It hasn't been so far.

255 erik_t  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:51:10pm

re: #252 Dark_Falcon

Soulless he is not, nor is he corrupt. The only one of those things he is is hypocritical, and that one applies to pretty much the entire Senate.

Um.

256 funky chicken  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:51:12pm

re: #208 Dark_Falcon

It's the same thing as done by the Obama campaign, only with the more honorable John McCain taking the role of attack surrogate, as opposed to Slick Willy taking on the attack role for Obama.

Except folks on the ground seem to think Obama and his administration are doing a good job. Cough Chris Christie cough.

I'm saddened to see McCain behaving in this manner.

257 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 2:54:11pm

re: #256 funky chicken

Except folks on the ground seem to think Obama and his administration are doing a good job. Cough Chris Christie cough.

I'm saddened to see McCain behaving in this manner.

I think what pissed me off about it is the place where he did it. This was a thank you for volunteers. People you know risking their asses for other people. If McCain wants to bash POTUS fine, that's his right, but doing it at a thank you people volunteering? It just makes him look like a bitter old man and believe me I could use more harsh language to describe the man.

258 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 3:04:00pm

re: #252 Dark_Falcon

Soulless he is not, nor is he corrupt. The only one of those things he is is hypocritical, and that one applies to pretty much the entire Senate.

McCain said 'health of the mother' as a reason for an abortion is an abused loophole. That's soulless. He used the finger quotes when he said it, too.

259 Mentis Fugit  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 3:04:12pm

re: #236 goddamnedfrank

You have to show respect to get respect. I'm kind of done with watching a damaged thirty four year old virgin pretend that his pathetic, bigoted heroes are the only ones off limits.

It's not about respecting or disrespecting McCain, it's about respecting or disrespecting gay people. For their sake, exercise restraint.

260 HappyWarrior  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 3:07:01pm

re: #259 Mentis Fugit

It's not about respecting or disrespecting McCain, it's about respecting or disrespecting gay people. For their sake, exercise restraint.

Right, call him a fucking asshole. That one's nondiscriminatory.

261 Lidane  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 3:11:49pm

Cue the nerd rage and/or celebrations:

Disney buying Lucasfilm, will release new 'Star Wars' movie in 2015

It couldn't be any worse than the prequels. And with new blood, new ideas and new directors it could be good.

262 makeitstop  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 3:18:37pm

re: #261 Lidane

Cue the nerd rage and/or celebrations:

Disney buying Lucasfilm, will release new 'Star Wars' movie in 2015

It couldn't be any worse than the prequels. And with new blood, new ideas and new directors it could be good.

You're in California now? I'm jealous, but have fun!

263 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 3:22:43pm

re: #187 Gus

[Embedded content]

Irony, thy name is John McCain.

It's a damn shame that he's lost his fucking mind...

264 Lidane  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 3:45:39pm

re: #262 makeitstop

You're in California now? I'm jealous, but have fun!

Yeah, I'm in Mountain View until Thursday night. I like it. My co-workers seem to be really cool.

265 Stoatly  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:31:34pm

re: #261 Lidane

It couldn't be any worse than the prequels.

Youtube Video
266 R.M. Ramallo  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:39:45pm

re: #261 Lidane

Cue the nerd rage and/or celebrations:

Disney buying Lucasfilm, will release new 'Star Wars' movie in 2015

It couldn't be any worse than the prequels. And with new blood, new ideas and new directors it could be good.

And for god's sake, don't let Lucas write the dialogue.
Or ant dialogue. Anywhere. Ever.

267 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:45:36pm

re: #241 goddamnedfrank

So the fuck what?

No, you're right. Bad words are so much worse than actually opposing civil rights and marriage equality for the people they represent.

No dickhead, you're fucking up the efforts to denormalize anti-gay sentiment, and by extension anti-gay behaviour.

268 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 4:48:51pm

re: #261 Lidane

Cue the nerd rage and/or celebrations:

Disney buying Lucasfilm, will release new 'Star Wars' movie in 2015

It couldn't be any worse than the prequels. And with new blood, new ideas and new directors it could be good.

I have swamp swamp prime land available for purchase, should you desire to build a house.

269 Lidane  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 5:38:42pm

re: #268 b_sharp

I have swamp swamp prime land available for purchase, should you desire to build a house.

Is that prime land close to my oceanfront homestead in Nebraska? I got a sweet deal on that a while back. Some Nigerian prince sold it to me for a steal. ;)

270 Aligarr  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 7:34:24pm

Star Wars is over . Yoda's a spirit , Vader repented and went to heaven , and the evil destroyed . Just like Rocky fought his last fight , Rambo destroyed his last small town , and Konan who might have some more battles , is gonna need alot of makeup, a new hairpiece ,and about a year of working out . Oh and Mad Max ? Gibson is.....fugedaboudit.

271 hellosnackbar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 4:35:18am

Is their some recondite message contained within this most idiotic statement?
Too quick to deal with a monster hurricane colliding with a cold front???
He clearly blabs out bullshit which doesn't originate in his cerebral cortex.
A friend of mine who heard a piece of brainless absurdity put his ear adjacent to the deliverers anus and told him to speak up!


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