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1 freetoken  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:03:55pm

Yeah, this video is causing fits in certain circles.

Good.

2 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:04:07pm

Ruck Fomney

3 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:04:55pm

I'm scared now.
/

4 Kragarghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:04:56pm

re: #1 freetoken

Yeah, this video is causing fits in certain circles.

Good.

Of course those same circles think the bible is a legal document and that the races shouldn't mingle.

5 jaunte  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:09:03pm

re: #2 Gus

Ruck Fomney

"Especially if we're related."

6 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:09:39pm

Sorry, RW, that was funny as hell.

7 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:10:29pm

re: #5 jaunte

"Especially if we're related."

Right. Hey, I'm game for cutting budgets. I'm just not game for cutting budgets along some screwed up right wing Bible thumping freaky Christian bullshit. Maybe I'm wrong but damn. Screwbrains.

8 Bob Dillon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:10:37pm

That was funny. On a more serious note...

Don't Put Me in a Nursing Home

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9 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:10:45pm

If we hate enough all our dreams will come true!

10 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:11:19pm

re: #9 Killgore Trout

If we hate enough all our dreams will come true!

Let us know when you come to orgasm.

11 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:12:02pm

KT's gazing at that know. Trying to figure out how to respond.

12 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:12:28pm

re: #10 Gus

Let us know when you come to orgasm.

You'll need a better Michael Moore video for that.

13 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:13:05pm

re: #9 Killgore Trout

If we hate enough all our dreams will come true!

Unlike you, I don't ignore the really crazy and bad stuff on the right in order to make false equivalences with the Dems.
Face it, the Rs are far, far worse for the country at this time. They are not the same as the Ds.

14 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:13:15pm

re: #12 Killgore Trout

You'll need a better Michael Moore video for that.

That won't work. One more shot.

15 jaunte  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:14:38pm

NASA warned New York about hurricane danger six years ago

"The point is that we have a terrible track record of dealing with long-range risks in this country. This is exacerbated by a presentist, science-phobic mindset on full display in the saga of 2012 presidential debates — which now, in the wake of Hurricane Sandy, looks utterly inane. The debates completely ignored climate change — and then much of Manhattan was flooded."

A recent study by Rosenzweig and Gornitz in 2005 and 2006 using the GISS Atmosphere-Ocean Model global climate model for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change projects a sea level rise of 15 to 19 inches by the 2050s in New York City. Adding as little as 1.5 feet of sea level rise by the 2050s to the surge for a category 3 hurricane on a worst-case track would cause extensive flooding in many parts of the city. Areas potentially under water include the Rockaways, Coney Island, much of southern Brooklyn and Queens, portions of Long Island City, Astoria, Flushing Meadows-Corona Park, Queens, lower Manhattan, and eastern Staten Island from Great Kills Harbor north to the Verrazano Bridge.
[Link: www.giss.nasa.gov...]

16 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:14:50pm

re: #12 Killgore Trout

You'll need a better Michael Moore video for that.

I'll remove the mote from my eye when you remove the raping and stabbing from yours.

17 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:15:22pm
18 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:15:30pm

re: #12 Killgore Trout

You'll need a better Michael Moore video for that.

Alternately,

Cheeringpeoplegettingmaced says what?

19 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:17:10pm

Forgive me for hating on those who see gay rights as a danger to them or AGW as a hoax or science as the devil or women as cattle or...
Yep, I be hating.

20 OhNoBenghazi!  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:17:11pm

It was funny.
What's the big deal?

21 Joanne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:17:19pm

I could total have seen my grandmother saying what these folks said. I thought it was funny (albeit a tad too long).

OT: This was touching.

22 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:17:50pm
23 OhNoBenghazi!  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:19:02pm

re: #9 Killgore Trout

If we hate enough all our dreams will come true!

That's deep man.
Puff, puff, pass!

24 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:20:21pm

Meh, apathy.

Why this country is so derp.

25 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:20:51pm
26 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:20:53pm

Anywho, we need a coffee button.

27 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:21:16pm

re: #22 Gus

Just for you!

28 Joanne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:22:58pm
29 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:23:24pm

re: #28 Joanne

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Math: The new Satan.

30 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:23:56pm

re: #23 Reverend Mother Ramallo

That's deep man.
Puff, puff, pass!

left hand side

31 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:24:25pm

The GOP wants to cut NOAA and weather sat replacement.
I be hating.

32 Lidanghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:25:06pm

re: #20 Reverend Mother Ramallo

It was funny.
What's the big deal?

Because Obama, that's why.

33 Kragarghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:25:25pm

re: #9 Killgore Trout

If we hate enough all our dreams will come true!

Amateur.

Hate! Hate! Hate!
An emotion as pure as it is deep!
Hate! Hate! Hate!
Let it flow, let it run free!
- Inspirational Verse, Imperial Hymnal Vol. IV

Light your way in the darkness with the pyres of burning heretics.
- Ecclesiarchy proverbs

34 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:25:27pm

re: #28 Joanne

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Well, this is one humanities guy who likes Nate more than his detractors. Still WTFing over the insinuation that he's not masculine enough to analyze polls and trends.

35 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:25:36pm
36 Kragarghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:25:51pm

re: #31 Varek Raith

The GOP wants to cut NOAA and weather sat replacement.
I be hating.

Why do you hate God's will?

37 Joanne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:25:53pm
38 Lidanghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:26:49pm

re: #37 Joanne

And here I thought that Obama conjured up Hurricane Sandy to distract from the jobs numbers. Who knew?

39 Joanne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:27:45pm

re: #34 HappyWarrior

I know. Numbers and science are all Ghey and shit. Or something.

40 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:27:58pm

re: #37 Joanne

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Obviously they're all fudging their numbers to help Obama.//

41 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:28:32pm

re: #39 Joanne

I know. Numbers and science are all Ghey and shit. Or something.

Algebra is a plot by the Muslim Brotherhood.

42 jaunte  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:29:05pm
43 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:29:05pm

re: #33 Kragar

Light your way in the darkness with the pyres of burning heretics.
- Ecclesiarchy proverbs

be sure to buy your carbon credits first.

44 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:29:13pm

re: #9 Killgore Trout

It's really sad to see how far you have fallen. Star to troll. Tell me, does it hurt you as much to do it as it hurts me to see what you have become?

45 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:29:55pm

re: #34 HappyWarrior

Well, this is one humanities guy who likes Nate more than his detractors. Still WTFing over the insinuation that he's not masculine enough to analyze polls and trends.

It's all about teh gay doncha know?

Liberals with their math and science and equal rights for everyone. It's all just so queer. What kind of red-blooded American manly white male are you that you don't know that voting for Democrats makes you a queer nerd?

//kinda, not really

46 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:30:20pm
47 OhNoBenghazi!  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:30:22pm

re: #34 HappyWarrior

Well, this is one humanities guy who likes Nate more than his detractors. Still WTFing over the insinuation that he's not masculine enough to analyze polls and trends.

That Unskewed Polls guy is the poster boy for the Alpha-Male.
He's not gross at all.
//

48 Joanne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:30:41pm

Too funny!

49 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:31:14pm

re: #45 moderatelyradicalliberal

It's all about teh gay doncha know?

Liberals with their math and science and equal rights for everyone. It's all just so queer. What kind of red-blooded American manly white male are you that you don't know that voting for Democrats makes you a queer nerd?

//kinda, not really

I think being afraid of homosexuals makes you a much bigger wimp than deriding people for being gay.

50 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:31:35pm

re: #47 Reverend Mother Ramallo

That Unskewed Polls guy is the poster boy for the Alpha-Male.
He's not gross at all.
//

The Unskewed guy looks very um, soft. I'll bet his tits are bigger than mine. And I'm a DD.

51 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:31:50pm

re: #46 Gus

Lofuckingl.

52 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:32:27pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

I think being afraid of homosexuals makes you a much bigger wimp than deriding people for being gay.

Well that settles it. You are not a true red-blooded American manly white male.

53 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:32:43pm

re: #51 Varek Raith

Lofuckingl.

Laughing here. Damn.

54 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:33:03pm

re: #52 moderatelyradicalliberal

Well that settles it. You are not a true red-blooded American manly white male.

Ha guess so.

55 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:33:56pm

re: #34 HappyWarrior

Well, this is one humanities guy who likes Nate more than his detractors. Still WTFing over the insinuation that he's not masculine enough to analyze polls and trends.

Obviously. All the great mathematicians were built like Eugene Sandow and were incorrigible poonhounds. Gottfriend Liebniz formulated calculus during a weekend long threesome, after which he tore a carriage horse in half bare-handed.

56 OhNoBenghazi!  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:34:06pm

re: #50 moderatelyradicalliberal

The Unskewed guy looks very um, soft. I'll bet his tits are bigger than mine. And I'm a DD.

LOL.
I bet standing makes him sweat and wheeze.

57 Joanne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:35:14pm

re: #46 Gus

Soooooo funny!

58 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:35:18pm

That vid was hilarious.
Thanks Gus.

59 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:35:30pm

re: #55 The Ghost of a Flea

Obviously. All the great mathematicians were built like Eugene Sandow and were incorrigible poonhounds. Gottfriend Liebniz formulated calculus during a weekend long threesome, after which he tore a carriage horse in half bare-handed.

Hahaha. Yeah it's all so very stupid. Thank heavens for the math nerds. Doing the math I can't figure out.

60 freetoken  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:36:48pm

re: #28 Joanne

Nerds rush in where angels fear to tread.

There's no real secret to these kind of things. "Polls" are not measures of the actual vote (absentee, early, or Nov. 6 in-the-flesh) but merely empirical valuations designed to achieve this or that goal, whatever their creator wants them to be.

This, as I've remarked before, reminds me of DWTS, where enough mirror balls, confetti, and trumpet flourishes can are there to entertain those who don't want to, or unable to, critically evaluate the actual dancing (or lack thereof.)

And, this year in particular, the "heat", to use a term from live entertainment, is not about actual issues but who's ahead. Again, it is like DWTS, where what matters is the popularity, not the substance (or lack thereof.)

61 Gus  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:37:25pm

Always fun.

62 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:38:31pm

Hate to ask this but, why does FEMA work really well under Dem admins and not so well under R admins?

63 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:38:56pm

re: #44 William Barnett-Lewis

It's really sad to see how far you have fallen. Star to troll. Tell me, does it hurt you as much to do it as it hurts me to see what you have become?

Not at all. My Twain and Thoreau quotes will be on the bottom comments list and this Michael Moore video will be on the top. I'm fine with that and doesn't make me question my opinions at all.

64 gwangung  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:39:17pm

re: #62 Varek Raith

Hate to ask this but, why does FEMA work really well under Dem admins and not so well under R admins?

Give you three guesses and the first two don't count.

65 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:39:19pm

re: #56 Reverend Mother Ramallo

LOL.
I bet standing makes him sweat and wheeze.

He must risk a heart attack or stroke every time he takes a hard shit.

66 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:39:50pm

re: #62 Varek Raith

Hate to ask this but, why does FEMA work really well under Dem admins and not so well under R admins?

I can't vouch for Republican administrations that aren't George W. Bush's but Obama doesn't have a horse racing commissioner running FEMA. [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

67 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:39:51pm

re: #46 Gus

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I predict that on November 7th Conservatives will remember that they didn't really want Mitt Romney anyway.

68 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:40:22pm

re: #64 gwangung

Give you three guesses and the first two don't count.

Cronyism.

69 Kragarghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:40:25pm

And I see once again youtube has decided to fuck up their layout once again for no discernible reason.

70 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:41:07pm

Eh, not that clever.

Also not worth people getting hysterical about.

Roy Zimmerman, now he's got some style.

71 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:42:09pm

re: #69 Kragar

And I see once again youtube has decided to fuck up their layout once again for no discernible reason.

And the ads.
ZOMG, I'm gonna fire the superlaser.

72 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:42:11pm

re: #62 Varek Raith

Hate to ask this but, why does FEMA work really well under Dem admins and not so well under R admins?

I'm not aware of any problems with FEMA until Katrina, but someone older may remember other events. The fact is so many things that used to be bipartisan are no longer since the GOP went batshit during the Clinton years. Modern conservatism is being against whatever liberals are for. Updated daily and without thought or rationality.

73 gwangung  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:42:17pm

re: #68 Varek Raith

Cronyism.

Well, and the fact that since they believe government can't do anything right, Republicans figger it don't matter who's in the chair--so you might as well put a pal in there.

74 Joanne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:42:57pm
75 ghazidor  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:43:14pm

re: #46 Gus

There is a good explanation for that, Romneys have problems too...

76 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:43:42pm

re: #67 Mocking Jay

I predict that on November 7th Conservatives will remember that they didn't really want Mitt Romney anyway.

They didn't really want McCain either, but it didn't stop them from going nuts about him losing to the Kenyan Muslim Usurper.

77 Kragarghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:43:45pm

re: #71 Varek Raith

And the ads.
ZOMG, I'm gonna fire the superlaser.

I love how every playlist is autoplay, with no way to just watch one video

78 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:44:16pm

I wanna watch a Yogcast vid, not political ads!!!!

79 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:44:24pm

See, Zimmerman is funny.

80 OhNoBenghazi!  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:45:28pm

re: #65 moderatelyradicalliberal

He must risk a heart attack or stroke every time he takes a hard shit.

He probably doesn't remember the last time he saw his junk.

81 Joanne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:45:58pm

re: #62 Varek Raith

Hate to ask this but, why does FEMA work really well under Dem admins and not so well under R admins?

Because Republican's appoint people with no experience into jobs they want to bitch about. They do not want government to work so they make sure to have shit people in those jobs. Then they can shrink government and drown it in Grover's bathtub.

82 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:46:48pm

re: #67 Mocking Jay

I predict that on November 7th Conservatives will remember that they didn't really want Mitt Romney anyway.

Nah but they will say that the reason Mitt lost is because he wasn't a real conservative. I'm also expecting some of the socons to be upset because Mitt hasn't been a huge cultural warrior directly. From what I read, Santorum was able to do better than Bachmann in some part because he paid a lot of attention to the social issues that the socons like.

83 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:47:14pm

re: #81 Joanne

Because Republican's appoint people with no experience into jobs they want to bitch about. They do not want government to work so they make sure to have shit people in those jobs. Then they can shrink government and drown it in Grover's bathtub.

The current guy, Fugate, was Jeb Bush's find, I think.

84 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:47:15pm

BENFEMAGHAZI!

85 Joanne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:47:40pm

Night all. Sweet dreams.

86 Kragarghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:48:17pm

re: #84 Varek Raith

BENFEMAGHAZI!

Fugazi?

87 OhNoBenghazi!  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:48:39pm

re: #62 Varek Raith

Hate to ask this but, why does FEMA work really well under Dem admins and not so well under R admins?

It's the difference in believing in the common good, and I've got mine, fuck you.
Obama was a community organizer, so he organized the community.

88 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:48:50pm

re: #83 SanFranciscoZionist

The current guy, Fugate, was Jeb Bush's find, I think.

Yep. Saw his resume today. Has a lot of experience in disaster response. This does get me thinking about who would Mitt appoint to head agencies like this one though given that he thinks a lot of them should be privatized anyhow.

89 Joanne  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:50:34pm

re: #83 SanFranciscoZionist

The current guy, Fugate, was Jeb Bush's find, I think.

Jeb Bush was the smarter brother. I don't like his stance on war and American Empire if no other way then by force, but he has more brain matter than George.

Now REALLY goodnight. :-)

90 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:51:16pm

Zimmerman's best piece on Mitt so far, I think:

91 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:51:26pm

re: #63 Killgore Trout

Not at all. My Twain and Thoreau quotes will be on the bottom comments list and this Michael Moore video will be on the top. I'm fine with that and doesn't make me question my opinions at all.

No surprise. But may The Good One have mercy on your soul despite your hate.

92 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:51:39pm

re: #89 Joanne

Jeb Bush was the smarter brother. I don't like his stance on war and American Empire if no other way then by force, but he has more brain matter than George.

Now REALLY goodnight. :-)

My understanding is had he won the first time he ran for governor of Florida. He would have ran for POTUS in 2000. He definitely is the more smart of the two. I don't think W is as dumb as made out to be but it's clear to me that Jeb is the more intellectual of the two.

93 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:51:40pm

re: #62 Varek Raith

Hate to ask this but, why does FEMA work really well under Dem admins and not so well under R admins?

They were super excited about privatizing disaster relief. It worked so well in Iraq.

94 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:51:50pm

re: #88 HappyWarrior

Yep. Saw his resume today. Has a lot of experience in disaster response. This does get me thinking about who would Mitt appoint to head agencies like this one though given that he thinks a lot of them should be privatized anyhow.

Michael ' Heckuva Job ' Brown.

95 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:54:49pm

re: #94 Varek Raith

Michael ' Heckuva Job ' Brown.

Heh. But seriously, this gets me thinking. If one doesn't think much of an agency. Is one really going to the put the most effective person to run it? I mean that's why I don't trust the Republicans running government. They don't think much of the government so why on earth would I trust them with the presidency or Congress and by extension having their mindset be the majority on the USSC. I'm over-thinking this maybe. I don't know. Food for thought.

96 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:56:25pm

G'night all.

97 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:57:24pm

re: #80 Reverend Mother Ramallo

He probably doesn't remember the last time he saw his junk.

LOL! Well no wonder he's angry.

98 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:57:59pm

re: #92 HappyWarrior

My understanding is had he won the first time he ran for governor of Florida. He would have ran for POTUS in 2000. He definitely is the more smart of the two. I don't think W is as dumb as made out to be but it's clear to me that Jeb is the more intellectual of the two.

Oh come on now. How hard is it to be a GOP intellectual these days?

99 Kragarghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:58:51pm

re: #88 HappyWarrior

Yep. Saw his resume today. Has a lot of experience in disaster response. This does get me thinking about who would Mitt appoint to head agencies like this one though given that he thinks a lot of them should be privatized anyhow.

Keep it in the family...

100 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:59:04pm

re: #98 moderatelyradicalliberal

Oh come on now. How hard is it to be a GOP intellectual these days?

True. When you got the runner up to their primaries saying that they're never going to get the smart people anyhow, they've set the bar pretty low for themselves.

101 Kragarghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:59:08pm

re: #98 moderatelyradicalliberal

Oh come on now. How hard is it to be a GOP intellectual these days?

You only have to read one book.

102 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:59:56pm

re: #101 Kragar

You only have to read one book.

Everybody poos?

103 OhNoBenghazi!  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 10:59:57pm

re: #95 HappyWarrior

Heh. But seriously, this gets me thinking. If one doesn't think much of an agency. Is one really going to the put the most effective person to run it? I mean that's why I don't trust the Republicans running government. They don't think much of the government so why on earth would I trust them with the presidency or Congress and by extension having their mindset be the majority on the USSC. I'm over-thinking this maybe. I don't know. Food for thought.

You're not the first person I've heard ask this.
It's not over thinking at all.

104 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 11:02:41pm

re: #102 HappyWarrior

Everybody poos?

105 OhNoBenghazi!  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 11:03:25pm

It was just disgusting when they complained about the ACA having too many pages.
If they couldn't be bothered to read a piece of legislation, WTF are they there for?

106 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 11:06:47pm

re: #105 Reverend Mother Ramallo

It was just disgusting when they complained about the ACA having too many pages.
If they couldn't be bothered to read a piece of legislation, WTF are they there for?

I know they would bitch about it being 2000 pages long. I'd be like that's the last two Harry Potter books you fucking dummies.

107 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 11:07:14pm

re: #105 Reverend Mother Ramallo

It was just disgusting when they complained about the ACA having too many pages.
If they couldn't be bothered to read a piece of legislation, WTF are they there for?

Yeah I remember that one. So stupid. And here's another thing I don't get. Congress's approval rating is at a record low yet many Americans feel just fine with voting for a guy with a running mate who is the chairman of the House Budget committee.

108 engineer cat  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 11:07:25pm

re: #105 Reverend Mother Ramallo

It was just disgusting when they complained about the ACA having too many pages.
If they couldn't be bothered to read a piece of legislation, WTF are they there for?

one of the things that pissed me off the most this year was when the case was before the supreme court and scalia said he was too busy to read the damn bill he was supposed to be ruling on

iffa ida been his boss he woulda been fired right then and there

109 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 11:08:48pm

Nighty night.

110 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 11:09:23pm

Good night all. Have a fun Halloween and for those of you in areas hit by that bitch Sandy, be well and be safe.

111 engineer cat  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 11:10:20pm

gratifying to hear the screams of outrage about christie praising obama from freeperville

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

112 OhNoBenghazi!  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 11:12:11pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

re: #108 engineer cat

There are only a few days left till the election.
Then we'll see just how stupid and cynical our fellow Americans are.

113 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 11:12:49pm

re: #108 engineer cat

one of the things that pissed me off the most this year was when the case was before the supreme court and scalia said he was too busy to read the damn bill he was supposed to be ruling on

iffa ida been his boss he woulda been fired right then and there

I also remember his moronic comment about the mandate. Coming from a man who once voted (With the minority thankfully) to uphold sodomy laws. That was very fucking stupid and intellectually dishonest. And here's another reason I don't believe Mitt Romney is going to govern as a moderate especially on legal matters. He has Robert F'ing Bork as his legal adviser.

114 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 11:13:21pm

re: #112 Reverend Mother Ramallo

re: #108 engineer cat

There are only a few days left till the election.
Then we'll see just how stupid and cynical our fellow Americans are.

Can't wait for it to be over no matter what the outcome.

115 OhNoBenghazi!  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 11:15:00pm

Well, it's already 2 am, so BBIAB.

116 freetoken  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 11:24:05pm

Free yoga awaits US voters on election day

A yoga studio in Washington has said it will give free classes to anyone who casts his or her ballot in next week's US elections.

Flow Yoga Center said it was throwing open the doors to its Astanga Mysore, Pilates, Prana Flow and Vinyasa Flow classes next Tuesday "to help our United States re-unite again."

"You just need to vote first, and then bring along your 'I Voted!' sticker or equivalent to get a free class," said
the studio, in the trendy Logan Circle neighborhood, in an email flyer yesterday.

[...]

Free Yoga for Everyone!

117 Tigger2  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 11:26:11pm

re: #111 engineer cat

gratifying to hear the screams of outrage about christie praising obama from freeperville

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

Those people are the kings of all idiots.

118 Amory Blaine  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 11:27:37pm

Major Retailer Urges Workers To Take 'Civics Course' With Anti-Obama Content

If you live in the Midwest and you're working on a home-improvement project, you're as likely to do your shopping at a Menards store as at a Lowe's or Home Depot. With 270 stores and 40,000 employees, Menards is the third-largest home-improvement chain in the U.S., and one of the largest privately held corporations in the country. But Menards stores sell more than just lumber and building supplies; their employees are sold a bill of goods in the form of right-wing ideology.

This January, as the Iowa Caucuses were underway, Menards began encouraging employees to take an at-home online "civics" course that characterizes the economic policies of President Barack Obama as a threat to the success of businesses such as Menards, and by extension, to the employees' own well-being.

If you are interested in worker rights it is a good read.

119 Tigger2  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 11:32:20pm

re: #118 Amory Blaine

Major Retailer Urges Workers To Take 'Civics Course' With Anti-Obama Content

If you are interested in worker rights it is a good read.

I'll pass this along to several contractors I know, I'm sure they will think twice before buying their materials from Menards

120 freetoken  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 11:42:34pm

re: #118 Amory Blaine

Yup. The so-called "course" is just more glibertarian bs all dressed up into a "textbook".

Menards - one of many corporations which work to keep their employees in the dark. It's companies like this that give capitalism its bad name.

121 ghazidor  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 11:44:59pm

Mitt Romney style... (Gangnam Style Parody)


Ryan makes an appearance too...pretty funny.

122 AK-47%  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 12:03:25am

Did not find the video particularly funny. Nothing partisan, I just found it too in your face, I think more sublety would have been a lot more effective.

I guess it is also because it fuels the "we aren't going to accept this outcome" line of thinking that we are bound to see, regardless of who wins. The outcome is going to be too close and nothing but a major landlide on either side would be accepted as irrefutable proof of a "mandate".

And chasing down voter fraud is like going after Saddam's WMD's, there are known unknowns and unknown unknowns, etc...

Voter fraud/intimidation/miscounting is something that can be done in small increments over broad areas by people who are related only through their ideology and not through any organization or chain of command that can be traced.

123 AK-47%  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 12:07:19am

re: #118 Amory Blaine

Major Retailer Urges Workers To Take 'Civics Course' With Anti-Obama Content

If you are interested in worker rights it is a good read.

They didn't build that!!!

124 ghazidor  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 12:18:10am

I am soooo looking forward to this one, this movie is supposed to be more action/drama and less jokes, slightly darker Iron Man...


(Yes that is Ben Kingsley playing "The Mandarin")

125 JamesWI  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 12:31:14am

re: #9 Killgore Trout

If we hate enough all our dreams will come true!

If you troll enough, maybe your life will become a little less pathetic!

126 sagehen  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 12:45:10am

MSNBC is doing a very nice job of smoothly relating their storm & aftermath coverage to their political leanings...

The Ed Show has lots of footage and descriptions of the ongoing rescue work -- mostly cops and firefighters, a bit of national guard, the treetrimmers, the public transportation that evacuated people in time, the schoolteachers who are staffing shelters -- and then "these are the middle class, these are the people whose collective bargaining rights were at stake in the Wisconsin budget fight and Ohio's bill 5 and (some other state's thing), these are the people whose wages are stagnant and pensions and healthcare benefits getting cut to offer more tax breaks to people who make 20 times as much, but who do we count on when shit happens..."

Rachel's playing up the awesome pre-planning -- that part of shutting down the NYC subways was disconnecting a lot of electrical equipment and moving it upstairs where it wouldn't be ruined by the floodwaters (saving about $4 billion worth of gear), that FEMA prepositioned federal search and rescue teams and electrical lineworkers in Jersey with all their supplies and equipment so they could get to work immediately when the winds died down (no wonder Chris Christie is so happy), that investment in NOAA is why the predictions were so spot on that all this pre-planning was effective and BTW did we mention that Romney wants to cut NOAA funding or maybe privatize it....

now I have to watch Lawrence and see what angle he used...

127 AK-47%  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 12:55:09am

re: #126 sagehen

Don't worry, Fox spent its afternoon doing everything except blaming the storm on Obama personally...

128 ghazidor  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 12:57:42am

re: #122 AK-47%

Yep, personally I don't find it funny at all, just offensive and needlessly crude. I understand what Michael Moore was aiming for, a sort of camp vibe, but in my opinion he missed the mark by a mile. The threat, even joking (is it really a joke?), to "burn it down" if the Republicans "steal the election" is repulsive to me. Sounds just like the Freepers saying they are bringing out their guns if the Democrats "steal" the election.

I'm honestly surprised that anyone can like that ad, but I guess everyone has their own tastes about humor. When I watch it all I see is a lot of ugliness with a superficial layer of incongruity based on setting and characters that is supposed to make it farcical. It doesn't work, at least not for me...

129 researchok  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 1:12:52am

Good morning, all you godless heathens!

130 researchok  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 1:16:39am

re: #122 AK-47%

re: #128 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

I saw the video as more entertaining than political.

As such, it was good for a laugh.

You guys are right though- as a political statement it is a big fail.

131 ghazidor  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 2:13:47am

Google has a cool Halloween graphic up on the home page.

Click on the 5 doors (one is a metal grating).
Click on what is behind the doors (click grating again after to reset to "thing").
Finally click on the cat in the trash can.

Note you can get sound/visual effects by clicking on the trash can earlier, clicking on the raven, or hovering the cursor over the doors.

132 AK-47%  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 2:15:42am

re: #131 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

Google has a cool Halloween graphic up on the home page.
Click on the 5 doors (one is a metal grating).
Click on what is behind the doors (click grating again after to reset)
Finally click on the cat in the trash can.

Note you can get sound/visual effects by clicking on the trash can earlier, clicking on the raven, or hovering the cursor over the doors.

cool! I opened the doors but missed the cat and the raven.

133 aagcobb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 3:06:29am

re: #28 Joanne

[Embedded content]

He probably won't but after the election, Silver ought to sue the guy who wrote that he was cooking the books to show Obama winning for defamation. Silver created a formula in the Spring and has stuck to it, and in fact criticized Gallup for changing theirs recently. BTW, I saw this morning that Obama's odds of winning jumped up 4.5 points when Silver updated it last night, to over 77%.

134 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 3:47:13am

Morning Honcos.

135 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 4:04:13am

Police: Gambling Ring Found At Youth Football Games
Authorities have arrested nine people, including several football coaches, they say were gambling on youth football games and setting point spreads prior to games.
[Link: tampa.cbslocal.com...]

136 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 4:12:28am

Happy Halloween. Heh.

137 Shropshire_Slasher  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 4:12:58am

November 7th can't come soon enough.

138 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 4:13:38am

I finally watched this even though I am at work (I have a headset). I think it's all kinds of awesome and MUCH BETTER than the Sarah Silverman GOTV ad with old people.

139 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 4:13:48am

re: #137 Shropshire_Slasher

November 7th can't come soon enough.

If it's close, that could be extended. Lawyers and all.

140 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 4:14:09am

This is a kinda nice thing. The volunteer organizations in NYC are so swamped with offers of volunteer help from NYC citizens that they're having a hard time sorting it out. I've been sent an email just telling me to hold on.

I bet there's a crowdsourcing way to handle this, rather than having to go through an administrative choke point. Worth looking into for next time.

141 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 4:15:51am

Yuk!!!
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

143 Shropshire_Slasher  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 4:25:32am

November 7th can't come soon enough, although, as I tell my kids, don't wish your life away. On a different note, I finally finsished installing 440 square feet of hardwood flooring. Wasn't hard, just tedious, especially coping around the stones of my fireplace. Wife seems to want tile in the kitchen now, over my dead body.

144 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 4:27:40am

re: #143 Shropshire_Slasher

Well that's silly. If she does it over your dead body, it's going to be lumpy.

145 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 4:27:51am

re: #143 Shropshire_Slasher

November 7th can't come soon enough, although, as I tell my kids, don't wish your life away. On a different note, I finally finsished installing 440 square feet of hardwood flooring. Wasn't hard, just tedious, especially coping around the stones of my fireplace. Wife seems to want tile in the kitchen now, over my dead body.

Why doesn't she just put your dead body in the backyard so the kitchen tile won't be bumpy?

146 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 4:28:38am

re: #145 Cannadian Club Akbar

11 seconds, man. You need more coffee.

147 Shropshire_Slasher  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 4:31:10am

I peed my pants laughing, o my.

Top spacewalks of all time
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
I never get tired of space, technology, and such.

148 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 4:40:29am

'Fantasy Slut League' Alarms California High School
A top-tier California high school informed parents of a "Fantasy Slut League" in which male students "drafted" female students and earned points for sexual encounters.
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

149 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 4:49:56am

George Lucas, as we already knew, is a genius. A genius who needs to be standing by his mailbox waiting for his $4.05 billion dollar check!!!
[Link: www.deadline.com...]

150 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 4:55:55am

Good Morning Lizards!

Relatively cold morning in Philadelphia (low-40s). Buses are running and the charter school on the next block is open. Looks like pretty much any other morning other than I am not sure that the trains are running.

Feline Overlord is upset due to the house guests. He will get over it eventually I'm sure.

(Edit: Commuter trains are running since I just saw one go by.)

151 AK-47%  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 4:58:26am

re: #142 Sheila Broflovski

Romney orders Red Cross to disregard their own rules and accept his creamed corn.

This is a new meme already isn't it? Take this corn and shove it!!!

And endless arguments about how the government is "interfering" with people who simply want to offer "unbureaucratic help", etc...

Take your canned goods, go drive out among the wreckage and distribute it yourself, then! Do not expect the red Cross to take over that job for you too!!!

152 alpuz  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 4:58:48am

re: #118 Amory Blaine

Yeah, Menards. This is one of the many things on the long list of dick moves this guy has pulled over the years.

153 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 5:00:18am

re: #151 AK-47%

This is a new meme already isn't it? Take this corn and shove it!!!

And endless arguments about how the government is "interfering" with people who simply want to offer "unbureaucratic help", etc...

Take your canned goods, go drive out among the wreckage and distribute it yourself, then! Do not expect the red Cross to take over that job for you too!!!

As long as they're on the road with their creamed corn, they should take some chainsaws and clear all the downed trees that are blocking the highway. Chop it neatly into cords of firewood.

154 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 5:08:44am

re: #143 Shropshire_Slasher

November 7th can't come soon enough, although, as I tell my kids, don't wish your life away. On a different note, I finally finsished installing 440 square feet of hardwood flooring. Wasn't hard, just tedious, especially coping around the stones of my fireplace. Wife seems to want tile in the kitchen now, over my dead body.

Today's Too-Late DIY Hint:

Laminate flooring is very easy to shape into odd curves if you sketch the pattern on it and grind the profile on a bench grinder. Wear glasses, mask, etc.

'Morning, all

155 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 5:13:21am

re: #150 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Good Morning Lizards!

Relatively cold morning in Philadelphia (low-40s). Buses are running and the charter school on the next block is open. Looks like pretty much any other morning other than I am not sure that the trains are running.

Feline Overlord is upset due to the house guests. He will get over it eventually I'm sure.

It's 42 in Lower Alabama. Mother of a storm can do that.

156 garhighway  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 5:26:25am

re: #98 moderatelyradicalliberal

Oh come on now. How hard is it to be a GOP intellectual these days?

It's pretty hard. Did you see the gymnastics David Brooks had to perform yesterday to decide that Romney winning would be good? He basically said "since Congressional Republicans are such dicks that they won't work with Obama at all, I guess we have to give them Romney".

Talk about ignoring root causes.

157 garhighway  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 5:31:57am

My company is now thinking that our buildings in downtown Manhattan won't be usable by Monday. They took a few feet of water (they are near the East River) and the water got to the phone switch in the basement.

Since there won't be much in the way of mass transit anyway, it looks like working from home will be the deal for a while longer.

158 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 5:33:51am

re: #157 garhighway

My company is now thinking that our buildings in downtown Manhattan won't be usable by Monday. They took a few feet of water (they are near the East River) and the water got to the phone switch in the basement.

Since there won't be much in the way of mass transit anyway, it looks like working from home will be the deal for a while longer.

My daughter had to join a car pool to get to her job in Midtown from Brooklyn. To get home from work, she and about 7 co-workers jammed into one cab.

159 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 5:34:28am

re: #157 garhighway

My company is now thinking that our buildings in downtown Manhattan won't be usable by Monday. They took a few feet of water (they are near the East River) and the water got to the phone switch in the basement.

Since there won't be much in the way of mass transit anyway, it looks like working from home will be the deal for a while longer.

Call them and tell them you need to at least get the bottle of vodka out of your desk.
/

160 garhighway  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 5:36:20am

re: #159 Cannadian Club Akbar

Call them and tell them you need to at least get the bottle of vodka out of your desk.
/

I went out Monday and bought beer. I'm good for now.

161 garhighway  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 5:37:01am

re: #158 Sheila Broflovski

My daughter had to join a car pool to get to her job in Midtown from Brooklyn. To get home from work, she and about 7 co-workers jammed into one cab.

We get some bus service today, but that's bound to be a mess.

162 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 5:41:13am

Am I the only one getting span for hurricane Sandy relief NOT from the American Red Cross?

163 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 5:41:54am

re: #162 Cannadian Club Akbar

Am I the only one getting span for hurricane Sandy relief NOT from the American Red Cross?

Spammers and scammers always swarm after every disaster.

164 garhighway  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 5:42:53am

The ferry service across the Hudson reopens today. That's a good thing.

165 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 5:58:25am
166 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 5:59:14am

Good morning lizards!

My sister got a hold of my mom yesterday. She has no power but is fine. No damage to the house so I'm relieved. :)

167 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:04:59am

Greets and saluts. Photos from my neck of the wood are up.

A direct link to my blog is here.

168 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:12:48am

What I'd like to see: Twitter Cage Match between @BryanJFischer and @realDonaldTrump.

Winner gets to take on... nominations?

169 Interesting Times in Benghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:18:04am

re: #168 Sheila Broflovski

What I'd like to see: Twitter Cage Match between @BryanJFischer and @realDonaldTrump.

Winner gets to take on... nominations?

Winner gets to engage in Olympic-style swimming and diving events in New Jersey and NYC flood water, complete with bonus large debris obstacle course.

170 makeitstopghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:19:56am

re: #143 Shropshire_Slasher

November 7th can't come soon enough, although, as I tell my kids, don't wish your life away. On a different note, I finally finsished installing 440 square feet of hardwood flooring. Wasn't hard, just tedious, especially coping around the stones of my fireplace. Wife seems to want tile in the kitchen now, over my dead body.

I put in a floating floor of cork in our living room with help from my BiL after our construction was done. What a pain in the ass that was, although it does look pretty awesome.

171 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:20:42am

re: #169 Interesting Times

Winner gets to engage in Olympic-style swimming and diving events in New Jersey and NYC flood water, complete with bonus large debris obstacle course.

HERP DERP

172 Interesting Times in Benghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:20:43am

Given the sheer numbers involved, I'd say they're even worse:

173 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:22:06am
174 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:23:25am

Damn...this looks like a war zone.

Fire rages on Sandy-stricken Jersey Shore

Helicopter aerials show an out-of-control blaze burning in Mantoloking, N.J., a community left devastated by Superstorm Sandy.

175 Interesting Times in Benghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:25:27am

re: #174 NJDhockeyfan

Given consequences like that, what do you think of these people?

Climate denier blog scoffs at Sandy aka Frankenfart.

176 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:28:08am

re: #175 Interesting Times

Given consequences like that, what do you think of these people?

Climate denier blog scoffs at Sandy aka Frankenfart.

I'm not interested in making this disaster political. I have family in the center of this tragedy. Go find someone else to argue with.

177 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:35:43am

re: #167 lawhawk

Greets and saluts. Photos from my neck of the wood are up.

A direct link to my blog is here.

Here are some pictures of my mom's neighborhood.

Scenes From Megastorm Sandy's Visit to Union County

178 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:39:36am
179 Lidanghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:40:30am
180 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:42:31am
181 JRCMYP  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:43:56am

re: #34 HappyWarrior

Well, this is one humanities guy who likes Nate more than his detractors. Still WTFing over the insinuation that he's not masculine enough to analyze polls and trends.

I have a serious geek-crush on Mr. Silver.

182 Interesting Times in Benghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:43:58am

Scientific facts are "political", now? No wonder we get things like this:

TODAY IN STUPID: Virginia Lawmaker Calls ‘Sea Level Rise’ A ‘Left Wing Term’

...and this:

Today In Stupid: North Carolina Considers A Law Against Predicting Sea Level Rise

In light of Sandy's aftermath, it goes without saying this kind of disgusting willful blindness will get people killed.

183 OhNoBenghazi!  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:44:31am

Morning all.
I heard on NPR this morning that the waste water treatment facility for Hoboken was flooded, and that the streets are filled with rainwater mixed with sewage.
Looking for a link...

184 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:46:10am

re: #38 Lidane

And here I thought that Obama conjured up Hurricane Sandy to distract from the jobs numbers. Who knew?

Obama cooked up Hurricane Sandy to distract from Benghazi!

Get with the program.

185 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:46:57am

re: #183 Reverend Mother Ramallo

Morning all.
I heard on NPR this morning that the waste water treatment facility for Hoboken was flooded, and that the streets are filled with rainwater mixed with sewage.
Looking for a link...

Yikes!

186 garhighway  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:48:29am

re: #176 NJDhockeyfan

I'm not interested in making this disaster political. I have family in the center of this tragedy. Go find someone else to argue with.

Actions have consequences. Positions have consequences. Deal with it.

187 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:50:05am

re: #186 garhighway

Actions have consequences. Positions have consequences. Deal with it.

No political ideas could have prevented this storm.

188 OhNoBenghazi!  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:50:14am

re: #183 Reverend Mother Ramallo

Morning all.
I heard on NPR this morning that the waste water treatment facility for Hoboken was flooded, and that the streets are filled with rainwater mixed with sewage.
Looking for a link...

NPR/National Guard

189 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:51:55am

re: #183 Reverend Mother Ramallo

The entire region had sewage treatment systems overrun (most are located on or near rivers/coasts).

190 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:52:52am

Death toll in NJ now up to 8

Latest victim was found in vehicle overcome by high water.

191 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:53:48am

re: #189 lawhawk

The entire region had sewage treatment systems overrun (most are located on or near rivers/coasts).

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New Jersey should launch it's own weather satellites, if the private sector won't do it.

192 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:55:11am

WPIX live feed - they've been flying up the NJ coast towards NYC. They just showed a NJ Transit NJ coast line bridge that has multiple boats and containers blocking.

193 Big Steve  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:55:48am

Hey NJD.....what's the word on your Cowboys?

194 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:56:04am
195 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:56:29am

re: #193 Big Steve

Hey NJD.....what's the word on your Cowboys?

They suck.

196 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:56:49am

Dow is up 65. Profit.

197 OhNoBenghazi!  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:56:50am

re: #189 lawhawk

The entire region had sewage treatment systems overrun (most are located on or near rivers/coasts).

[Embedded content]

The little things we take for granted...

198 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:57:07am

I'm waiting for the NHL to get the damn strike over.

199 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:57:26am

Major fire underway on Jersey shore at Mantoloking. Multiple structures destroyed and more at risk.

200 Big Steve  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:57:46am

re: #195 NJDhockeyfan

They suck.

You can convert to the Texans.

201 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 6:59:39am

re: #200 Big Steve

You can convert to the Texans.

Naaa...I'm not a fair weather fan. If I can survive being a Cubs fan all these years I can wait for my other teams to finally win the big one.

202 Lidanghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:03:03am

re: #187 NJDhockeyfan

No political ideas could have prevented this storm.

But a lot of bad political ideas could have FEMA and other emergency services providers facing severe budget cuts, if not outright privatization or closure.

And a lot of bad political ideas look at that storm and don't see the connection between it and climate change, and they'd refuse to consider our actions in that at all.

203 garhighway  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:08:39am

re: #187 NJDhockeyfan

No political ideas could have prevented this storm.

Sophistry.

Remember that movie of Al Gore's that the right wing hated so much?

What if we had started to get serious then about hardening coastal locations and addressing GHGs?

Let us not pretend that this isn't a taste of things to come. It is. We can pretend it is just weather and do nothing, or we can start to own up to the consequences of a century of fossil fuel consumption.

What say you? Business as usual?

204 Big Steve  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:08:46am

re: #196 Decatur Deb

Dow is up 65. Profit.

And profit is bad right?

205 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:10:34am

re: #204 Big Steve

And profit is bad right?

What do you think disaster relief would be like if it was provided by for-profit corporations?

206 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:11:00am

I don't see why that video is NSFW...there's no nudity.

Mornin' everyone.

207 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:12:14am

re: #205 Sheila Broflovski

What do you think disaster relief would be like if it was provided by for-profit corporations?

Please use the keypad to insert your credit card number below...

208 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:14:07am

re: #205 Sheila Broflovski

What do you think disaster relief would be like if it was provided by for-profit corporations?

Only 36 more payments and this airlift from the roof of my flooded house will be all mine!

209 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:14:29am

re: #182 Interesting Times

Scientific facts are "political", now? No wonder we get things like this:

TODAY IN STUPID: Virginia Lawmaker Calls ‘Sea Level Rise’ A ‘Left Wing Term’

...and this:

Today In Stupid: North Carolina Considers A Law Against Predicting Sea Level Rise

In light of Sandy's aftermath, it goes without saying this kind of disgusting willful blindness will get people killed.

Image: double_facepalm.png

210 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:15:41am

I'm sorry, Mr. Smith, but your credit history indicates that we will require funds in advance of your rescue...

211 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:16:05am

Hurricanes are controlled by the US government. As you well know.

But wait! Actually, it was caused by gay marriage and of course abortion.

I want to clear something up. I am not saying this super destructive hurricane was because of the homosexual act. The Holy God of Israel will judge individuals for their sinful acts.

What I am saying is the judgment is for the government promoting homosexual “marriage” as an ordinance. Once a nation legalizes sin, like abortion and homosexual “marriage”: that nation falls under the direct judgment of the Holy God of Israel. God does not destroy a nation right away but first warns.

212 garhighway  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:17:31am

re: #205 Sheila Broflovski

What do you think disaster relief would be like if it was provided by for-profit corporations?

"Press 1 if you are drowning. Press 2 if you are burning alive. Press 3 if you are either burning alive or drowning and want a Preferred Emergency Visa Card, in which case you will get enhanced service..."

213 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:17:33am

re: #206 darthstar

I don't see why that video is NSFW...there's no nudity.

Mornin' everyone.

Cause someone sez COCKpunch!

[Faints.]

214 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:17:57am
215 Big Steve  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:18:00am

re: #205 Sheila Broflovski

What do you think disaster relief would be like if it was provided by for-profit corporations?

Ah...I was responding to a comment about the Dow opening higher this morning and not about privatization of governmental services. But while on the topic, a gigantic portion of governmental services are already privatized. For example NASA. NASA subcontractors make up over two thirds of the total NASA budget. They all make nice profits and all is well in the world.

216 Obdicut  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:18:51am

re: #215 Big Steve

Do you consider Medicare privatized, then, since it pays private doctors?

217 OhNoBenghazi!  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:20:51am

re: #212 garhighway

"Press 1 if you are drowning. Press 2 if you are burning alive. Press 3 if you are either burning alive or drowning and want a Preferred Emergency Visa Card, in which case you will get enhanced service..."

Press or say * for English. Press or say # for Spanish.
I'm sorry , I didn't get that. Please hold for the next available customer service representative.
Your wait time should be less than 45 minutes...

218 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:21:25am

Romney's Minnesota ground game

[Link: www.mittromney.com...]

219 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:21:43am

re: #182 Interesting Times

Scientific facts are "political", now? No wonder we get things like this:

TODAY IN STUPID: Virginia Lawmaker Calls ‘Sea Level Rise’ A ‘Left Wing Term’

...and this:

Today In Stupid: North Carolina Considers A Law Against Predicting Sea Level Rise

In light of Sandy's aftermath, it goes without saying this kind of disgusting willful blindness will get people killed.

Prophet!

220 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:23:03am
221 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:23:19am

Texas reminds me of Iran in many ways.

222 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:24:38am
223 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:25:06am
224 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:25:47am
225 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:26:39am

Derp! Poor Matt. He could have been a contender.

226 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:26:44am

re: #221 Gus

Texas reminds me of Iran in many ways.

Except that Iran has some beautiful mountains and some of the best skiing on the planet.

227 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:29:52am

re: #225 Gus

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Derp! Poor Matt. He could have been a contender.

Chris Christie was their milkshake. Obama's drinking it. Remember what Ann Coulter said...if Christie was the GOP candidate right now, President Obama would still be touring the damage with him, and Christie would still be thanking him for his help. It's one thing I like about Christie...for a conservative blow-hard, he's still a blue-collar guy who doesn't bullshit about the important things in times of crisis.

228 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:33:51am

Okay, I hadn't heard this. But if true, it's going to dampen the bump his fake 'storm relief event' campaign rally was supposed to give him.

229 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:34:17am

re: #227 darthstar

Chris Christie was their milkshake. Obama's drinking it. Remember what Ann Coulter said...if Christie was the GOP candidate right now, President Obama would still be touring the damage with him, and Christie would still be thanking him for his help. It's one thing I like about Christie...for a conservative blow-hard, he's still a blue-collar guy who doesn't bullshit about the important things in times of crisis.

Yeah. Kind of like that whole Muslim thing. He's an asshole but he just tries to do the right thing most of the time. Guys like Matt seem to forget that Obama is the president. You're supposed to thank them in times of crisis regardless of party. Something these bigots and Teabaggers have forgotten.

230 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:34:42am

re: #228 darthstar

Okay, I hadn't heard this. But if true, it's going to dampen the bump his fake 'storm relief event' campaign rally was supposed to give him.

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If it's on twitter it must be true!

231 Kung Fughazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:35:24am
232 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:36:18am

re: #227 darthstar

Chris Christie was their milkshake. Obama's drinking it. Remember what Ann Coulter said...if Christie was the GOP candidate right now, President Obama would still be touring the damage with him, and Christie would still be thanking him for his help. It's one thing I like about Christie...for a conservative blow-hard, he's still a blue-collar guy who doesn't bullshit about the important things in times of crisis.

He's definitely one of those rare few who wants to do the job, not just have the job.

233 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:36:45am

re: #231 Mattand

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What the fuck is wrong with these people?

234 dragonath  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:36:45am

Perhaps Christie could only take so much BS from the Romney campaign, i.e. the anti-lawyer rhetoric at the RNC. The guy was a goddamn corporate lawyer. Ya think Christie is ashamed of that?

Oh just got power back. And who the hell are these Let Freedom Ring assholes? Anyone who puts up a web ad with one of the planes smashing into the twin towers have got to be nuclear level wingnuts.

235 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:39:02am

re: #231 Mattand

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236 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:39:11am
237 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:39:53am

re: #235 Gus

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I'm starting to have violent thoughts.

238 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:40:49am

re: #237 Mocking Jay

I'm starting to have violent thoughts.

239 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:40:49am

re: #232 Mocking Jay

He's definitely one of those rare few who wants to do the job, not just have the job.

Agreed. He's been that way from the beginning. Chris Christie is prepared to do his part for the party, but not at the expense of his duties. And frankly, that's what New Jersey needed in 2009 and needs now more than ever.

240 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:41:43am

re: #227 darthstar

That's why he's got the levels of support he does, even among the union folks who were hammered hard during talks over education and spending. The state's got huge issues ahead of it.

And Cory Booker has also done a tremendous job in Newark.

If Booker runs against Christie next year, I wouldn't have a problem if either wins. Both have shown themselves quite competent to run the state, especially in a crisis. Wish that other states/Congress could say the same.

241 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:42:26am

Christie trutherism!

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242 Kung Fughazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:43:31am

re: #229 Gus

Yeah. Kind of like that whole Muslim thing. He's an asshole but he just tries to do the right thing most of the time. Guys like Matt seem to forget that Obama is the president. You're supposed to thank them in times of crisis regardless of party. Something these bigots and Teabaggers have forgotten.

The problem with Christie is to him, "doing the right thing" means intimidating and abusing people when they challenge him.

I'm very grateful that he's putting the welfare of NJ over politics right now, and he's not afraid to make decisions the Tea Baggers and Fox Nation will scream over.

But the man is not above using thug tactics like having NJ state troopers bully a teacher in a town hall meeting. That more people aren't bothered by this side of his personality is worrisome.

243 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:43:32am
244 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:43:54am

re: #237 Mocking Jay

I'm starting to have violent thoughts.

The Daily Caller is Tucker Carlson's outfit. He used to be a reasonable man, but then he apparently caught a rapidly-progressing case of Obama Derangement Syndrome. Since then, his former self has disappeared in favor of an ever angrier wingnut. But he still has his bow tie, so it may help to imagine using that bow tie to hoist him off the ground and scream at him.

245 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:44:23am

re: #230 NJDhockeyfan

If it's on twitter it must be true!

Confirmed:

[Link: www.buzzfeed.com...]

But the last-minute nature of the call for donations left some in the campaign concerned that they would end up with an empty truck. So the night before the event, campaign aides went to a local Wal Mart and spent $5,000 on granola bars, canned food, and diapers to put on display while they waited for donations to come in, according to one staffer. (The campaign confirmed that it "did donate supplies to the relief effort," but would not specify how much it spent.)

246 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:44:29am

re: #234 dragonath

Christie was also a US District Attorney. Christie knows the real issues here is disaster relief, and that's his first and only priority here.

We've got huge problems ahead for NJ with all the damage around here. Northern NJ isn't in as bad shape as Central and Southern NJ, but it's plenty bad (and places like Hoboken, Carlstadt, Moonachie, down to Newark and then South along the coast were heavily damaged with storm surge, flooding, and outages).

247 aagcobb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:44:51am

re: #215 Big Steve

Ah...I was responding to a comment about the Dow opening higher this morning and not about privatization of governmental services. But while on the topic, a gigantic portion of governmental services are already privatized. For example NASA. NASA subcontractors make up over two thirds of the total NASA budget. They all make nice profits and all is well in the world.

We already know what happens when disaster relief is monetized instead of provided as a public service. In Tennessee, firefighters stand around and watch houses burn down.

248 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:44:52am

re: #240 lawhawk

That's why he's got the levels of support he does, even among the union folks who were hammered hard during talks over education and spending. The state's got huge issues ahead of it.

And Cory Booker has also done a tremendous job in Newark.

If Booker runs against Christie next year, I wouldn't have a problem if either wins. Both have shown themselves quite competent to run the state, especially in a crisis. Wish that other states/Congress could say the same.

Booker's been a friggin superhero in Newark from what I've heard. Using Twitter to actually listen to constituents and help people on the ground and in person, like responding to a tweet about homeless people sticking it out under and overpass and convincing them to get to shelter. You've got some good people in charge over there.

249 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:45:04am
250 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:45:40am

re: #244 Dark_Falcon

The Daily Caller is Tucker Carlson's outfit. He used to be a reasonable man, but then he apparently caught a rapidly-progressing case of Obama Derangement Syndrome. Since then, his former self has disappeared in favor of an ever angrier wingnut. But he still has his bow tie, so it may help to imagine using that bow tie to hoist him off the ground and scream at him.

He's a shadow of the man he used to be before Jon Stewart took him apart.

251 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:46:18am
252 Kung Fughazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:46:40am

re: #248 Mocking Jay

Booker's been a friggin superhero in Newark from what I've heard. Using Twitter to actually listen to constituents and help people on the ground and in person, like responding to a tweet about homeless people sticking it out under and overpass and convincing them to get to shelter. You've got some good people in charge over there.

If Booker runs, we're going to have the closest gubernatorial race in NJ in a long time, possibly ever. Should be entertaining.

253 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:47:11am

HURR HURR DERP DERP

254 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:47:20am
255 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:47:55am

re: #225 Gus

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Derp! Poor Matt. He could have been a contender.

You just know that Matt's trying with all his might not to start screaming "TRAITOR!"

256 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:49:21am

Councilman Pushes For Charges Against Twitter User Who Spread Falsehoods

“I hope the fact that I'm asking for criminal charges to be seriously considered will make him much less comfortable and much less smug,” says Vallone

257 OhNoBenghazi!  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:50:14am

re: #242 Mattand

The problem with Christie is to him, "doing the right thing" means intimidating and abusing people when they challenge him.

I'm very grateful that he's putting the welfare of NJ over politics right now, and he's not afraid to make decisions the Tea Baggers and Fox Nation will scream over.

But the man is not above using thug tactics like having NJ state troopers bully a teacher in a town hall meeting. That more people aren't bothered by this side of his personality is worrisome.

It's not the loud-mouths that bother me.
You see what you get with Christie.
It's the quiet sneaky ones, like Kasich, Walker, and R. Scott. that concern me.

258 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:50:40am

Parts of Breezy Point simply aren't there any more. And you can repeat that for entire towns and communities up and down LI and NJ Shore.

There's still parts of NJ inaccessible because of damage.

259 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:51:04am

re: #244 Dark_Falcon

The Daily Caller is Tucker Carlson's outfit. He used to be a reasonable man, but then he apparently caught a rapidly-progressing case of Obama Derangement Syndrome. Since then, his former self has disappeared in favor of an ever angrier wingnut. But he still has his bow tie, so it may help to imagine using that bow tie to hoist him off the ground and scream at him.

Which is why I said Matt could have been a contender. He's a smart guy and should know better. I've watched him debate with Bill Scher of Liberal Oasis many times. It's weird but when he's not debating Bill he's kind of a douche like this. Often.

260 BongGhazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:52:59am

re: #243 Gus

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Wind damage or windbag damaage?

261 aagcobb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:53:21am

re: #258 lawhawk

Parts of Breezy Point simply aren't there any more. And you can repeat that for entire towns and communities up and down LI and NJ Shore.

There's still parts of NJ inaccessible because of damage.

Looking at the photos it reminds me of the tsunami, though obviously that involved much greater loss of life.

262 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:53:35am

re: #260 BongCrodny

Wind damage or windbag damaage?

Drain bamage!

263 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:55:08am

US Navy sending three helicopter carriers to NYC metro area to assist with relief/recovery efforts. USS Wasp, USS Carter Hall, and USS Mesa Verde are on route.

264 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:56:18am
265 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:56:33am

re: #261 aagcobb

The storm surge was very much like a tsunami in terms of scope.

We are very lucky that the loss of life wasn't much greater. Thankfully we had sufficient warning from satellite and forecasts who predicted the track days out. Hundreds of thousands were able to evacuate from the most vulnerable areas.

266 Kung Fughazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:56:57am

OT: got a FB problem that's bothering me. I'm FB friends with a guy who my better half went to college with. I've mentioned him before; completely lost-his-ability-to-see-reality type of conservative. Literally thinks Obama hates success and wants to punish people for it.

He posted a political cartoon the other day of Obama with his arm around an Arab-looking guy with the words "Al Queada" on his shirt. The "terrorist" is wearing a sheep-skin hoodie, like the Big Bad Wolf" with the phrase "Muslim Brotherhood" on it.

Obama is offering the guy the sage advice to lay low until after the election, the implication that Obama knows these guys are trouble and is endorsing them. AKA, working with Al Queda.

Do I drop this guy? I'm not comfortable with the idea of un-friending someone with political views I disagree with, but to me, this is beyond that. This is using your possibly-pathological hatred of Obama to accuse him of treason.

You don't like Obama, fine. It's a free country. Just base your opposition to him with reality. This is the side of the modern conservative/GOP movement that scares the living piss out of me.

There were plenty of people suffering from Bush Derangement Syndrome, but very few of them had any really sway in the Democratic party. Not so with today's GOP. And quite frankly, I'm not really sure if I want to deal with people this out-of-their-minds.

267 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 7:59:24am

re: #264 NJDhockeyfan

Assholes.

9 Arrested In Thefts Near Rockaways Amid Storm

There will always be people who steal. The fact that it's only nine people, and a few scattered reports of other looting that I've seen, speaks volumes. If there were hundreds of people looting, trust me, Fox would be all over it and they wouldn't have to do interviews with people like Chris Christie who refuse to stay on script and use this disaster to help Romney.

268 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:00:08am

re: #263 lawhawk

US Navy sending three helicopter carriers to NYC metro area to assist with relief/recovery efforts. USS Wasp, USS Carter Hall, and USS Mesa Verde are on route.

I actually helped rebuild the boardwalk along Seaside Heights many moons ago. Not volunteer work but a govt. job of sorts. Forgot the name of the storm. This was back in the late 70s.

269 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:00:21am
270 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:00:49am

re: #268 Gus

I actually helped rebuild the boardwalk along Seaside Heights many moons ago. Not volunteer work but a govt. job of sorts. Forgot the name of the storm. This was back in the late 70s.

Freeloader.

271 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:01:51am

WOW...

Skeleton believed from Colonial times found when Sandy uproots historic tree in Conn.

NEW HAVEN, Conn. — New Haven police say superstorm Sandy has revealed a skeleton beneath the town green that may have been there since Colonial times.

Police spokesman David Hartman says a woman who was with other bystanders looking at a fallen oak tree called police Tuesday after she saw bones in the upturned roots.

Hartman says the tree was planted on the green in 1909 on the 100th anniversary of President Abraham Lincoln’s birth. He says the remains likely belong to one of thousands of people buried there in Colonial times. The remains will be evaluated by the state medical examiner.

272 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:02:20am

Asshole loses job. You did it to yourself, dickweed.

273 Lidanghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:05:07am

re: #225 Gus

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Derp! Poor Matt. He could have been a contender.

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274 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:05:07am

re: #266 Mattand

OT: got a FB problem that's bothering me. I'm FB friends with a guy who my better half went to college with. I've mentioned him before; completely lost-his-ability-to-see-reality type of conservative. Literally thinks Obama hates success and wants to punish people for it.

He posted a political cartoon the other day of Obama with his arm around an Arab-looking guy with the words "Al Queada" on his shirt. The "terrorist" is wearing a sheep-skin hoodie, like the Big Bad Wolf" with the phrase "Muslim Brotherhood" on it.

Obama is offering the guy the sage advice to lay low until after the election, the implication that Obama knows these guys are trouble and is endorsing them. AKA, working with Al Queda.

Do I drop this guy? I'm not comfortable with the idea of un-friending someone with political views I disagree with, but to me, this is beyond that. This is using your possibly-pathological hatred of Obama to accuse him of treason.

You don't like Obama, fine. It's a free country. Just base your opposition to him with reality. This is the side of the modern conservative/GOP movement that scares the living piss out of me.

There were plenty of people suffering from Bush Derangement Syndrome, but very few of them had any really sway in the party. Not so with today's GOP. And quite frankly, I'm not really sure if I want to deal with people this out-of-their-minds.

It's Facebook, not in-your-face. You can unfriend him, or just hide all his posts.

275 Kung Fughazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:06:58am

re: #257 Reverend Mother Ramallo

It's not the loud-mouths that bother me.
You see what you get with Christie.
It's the quiet sneaky ones, like Kasich, Walker, and R. Scott. that concern me.

Keep in mind that the following is written with the understanding Christie's doing a decent job dealing with the hurricane.

It is true that Christie is a you-get-what-you-see person. He stuck it to some unions here, but he didn't make a grand spectacle of it like Walker in WI (the fact the Dems went along with it helped immensely).

Part of it is me, I guess. I had to deal with bullies on-and-off growing up, and can't fucking stand them. Plus, the teacher-bashing he does results in everyone shitting on teachers around here.

The whole "It's not the teachers we hate, it's the unions" speil is incredibly disingenuous, because quite frankly people aren't that smart. They're not going to be happy until teachers are making $12,000 a year max, and then wonder why the schools suck worse.

I'm also sick of everyone who's even slightly conservative from other states telling me what a genius he is because he can't restrain himself from trying to physically fight some nitwit who yelled at him on the Boardwalk. Let's get the NJ unemployment rate down to manageable levels first.

276 makeitstopghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:07:07am

re: #266 Mattand

OT: got a FB problem that's bothering me. I'm FB friends with a guy who my better half went to college with. I've mentioned him before; completely lost-his-ability-to-see-reality type of conservative. Literally thinks Obama hates success and wants to punish people for it.

He posted a political cartoon the other day of Obama with his arm around an Arab-looking guy with the words "Al Queada" on his shirt. The "terrorist" is wearing a sheep-skin hoodie, like the Big Bad Wolf" with the phrase "Muslim Brotherhood" on it.

Obama is offering the guy the sage advice to lay low until after the election, the implication that Obama knows these guys are trouble and is endorsing them. AKA, working with Al Queda.

Do I drop this guy? I'm not comfortable with the idea of un-friending someone with political views I disagree with, but to me, this is beyond that. This is using your possibly-pathological hatred of Obama to accuse him of treason.

You don't like Obama, fine. It's a free country. Just base your opposition to him with reality. This is the side of the modern conservative/GOP movement that scares the living piss out of me.

There were plenty of people suffering from Bush Derangement Syndrome, but very few of them had any really sway in the party. Not so with today's GOP. And quite frankly, I'm not really sure if I want to deal with people this out-of-their-minds.

I've completely stopped pussy-footing with FB friends showing wingnut tendencies. I now call them what they are without hestitation.

9 times out of 10, they de-friend me. They hate being told the truth about what they really are.

277 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:07:18am
278 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:09:08am

More looting news...

Superstorm Sandy swipers: New York homes and businesses hit by looters

New York home and business owners have yet another thing to worry about, just one day after Hurricane Sandy ravaged the east coast. The city has been hit with looters hoping to cash in on pricey goods left inside abandoned buildings.

Police have arrested at least 13 people in connection with looting.

The stealing is not out of necessity – in fact, no acts of looting for food or water have been reported. Instead, the thieves are swiping clothes and electrical goods in New York’s hardest hit areas.

One of those areas is South Street Seaport – a historic part of town located near Manhattan’s financial district. The storm knocked out plate-glass windows from several stores, providing a playground for looters looking for easy merchandise.

I saw two people walking by the Ann Taylor store and reach in and take some shirts that were just laying right there by the mannequin,” a local man told the New York Post. “It’s really messed up, man. They’re really taking advantage.”

Looters also scored fancy gadgets at a nearby Brookstone store before police arrived to stand guard in the area.

Perhaps the biggest kick in the face to the victims is that the looting suspects seem anything but ashamed of their actions. Many even used Twitter to map their looting sprees.

Area police have vowed that the thieves will not get away with their criminal acts.

“We will not tolerate these scumbags looting. We will arrest them on sight, a police source said.

And in Coney Island a pharmacy was looted...

Thieves broke in to the badly damaged Mega Aid Pharmacy on Mermaid Avenue and reportedly stole more than 10,000 pharmaceutical items, including prescription drugs.

279 aagcobb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:09:17am

re: #266 Mattand

If it bothers you, unfriend him. Its just Facebook.

280 Lidanghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:10:25am

re: #255 Targetpractice

You just know that Matt's trying with all his might not to start screaming "TRAITOR!"

Just look at his timeline. Matt's whole argument is that Christie is only sucking up to Obama for disaster relief money, which is fine despite the fact that it would come from the hated FEMA, but that Christie is slobbering too much while he does it.

You know, because elections trump actual emergencies.

281 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:10:30am

re: #278 NJDhockeyfan

More looting news...

Superstorm Sandy swipers: New York homes and businesses hit by looters

And in Coney Island a pharmacy was looted...

Nothing happened in Palestine today that you're dying to tell us about?

282 aagcobb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:10:45am

re: #269 darthstar

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Its unlikely that Florida will be key; if Obama wins there, he'll probably already have 270 EC votes locked up elsewhere.

283 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:11:08am

re: #278 NJDhockeyfan

More looting news...

Superstorm Sandy swipers: New York homes and businesses hit by looters

And in Coney Island a pharmacy was looted...

There will always be looters after every disaster. "Katrina Heineken Guy" will probably start showing up on Twitter any minute now.

284 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:11:08am

re: #281 Mocking Jay

Nothing happened in Palestine today that you're dying to tell us about?

???

285 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:11:25am

Long Beach, Long Island sewage treatment completely destroyed; water treatment and potable water not available. Cell phone and landlines still limited function.

286 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:11:27am

re: #281 Mocking Jay

Nothing happened in Palestine today that you're dying to tell us about?

Where is Palestine?

287 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:11:49am

re: #286 NJDhockeyfan

Where is Palestine?

It's in Texas.

288 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:12:22am

re: #266 Mattand

OT: got a FB problem that's bothering me. I'm FB friends with a guy who my better half went to college with. I've mentioned him before; completely lost-his-ability-to-see-reality type of conservative. Literally thinks Obama hates success and wants to punish people for it.

He posted a political cartoon the other day of Obama with his arm around an Arab-looking guy with the words "Al Queada" on his shirt. The "terrorist" is wearing a sheep-skin hoodie, like the Big Bad Wolf" with the phrase "Muslim Brotherhood" on it.

Obama is offering the guy the sage advice to lay low until after the election, the implication that Obama knows these guys are trouble and is endorsing them. AKA, working with Al Queda.

Do I drop this guy? I'm not comfortable with the idea of un-friending someone with political views I disagree with, but to me, this is beyond that. This is using your possibly-pathological hatred of Obama to accuse him of treason.

You don't like Obama, fine. It's a free country. Just base your opposition to him with reality. This is the side of the modern conservative/GOP movement that scares the living piss out of me.

There were plenty of people suffering from Bush Derangement Syndrome, but very few of them had any really sway in the party. Not so with today's GOP. And quite frankly, I'm not really sure if I want to deal with people this out-of-their-minds.

My own feeling mirrors a t-shirt I've sometimes seen ladies wearing;

Dump Him!

289 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:12:27am

re: #287 Sheila Broflovski

It's in Texas.

What is happening in Texas? I didn't hear.

290 Kung Fughazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:13:28am

re: #276 makeitstop

I've completely stopped pussy-footing with FB friends showing wingnut tendencies. I now call them what they are without hestitation.

9 times out of 10, they de-friend me. They hate being told the truth about what they really are.

Yeah, you're right. Time to go piss off a deranged conservative.

EDIT: Here's the comment:

Anyone who agrees with this cartoon is a fucking moron, and is a prime example of what's wrong with today's Republicans.

You people live in your own fantasy world.

291 Lidanghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:13:33am

re: #289 NJDhockeyfan

What is happening in Texas? I didn't hear.

The Cowboys are stinking up the place and the Astros are headed to the AL, where they'll have a whole new league to suck in.

292 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:15:55am
293 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:16:22am

re: #278 NJDhockeyfan

More looting news...

Superstorm Sandy swipers: New York homes and businesses hit by looters

And in Coney Island a pharmacy was looted...

This isn't New Orleans, this is New York City we're talking about. There will be some looting, but a great many of those who try that will be arrested, and those arrests will dampen the desire of others to steal. Let the thieves enjoy their stay on Riker's Island. The NYPD knows how to keep order.

294 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:17:22am

That was David Hedison.

295 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:17:36am

re: #292 Gus

Image: tve7757-20120914-2936.jpg

He may the Most Interesting Man in the World, but I've never spoken to him. We just don't like the same things.

///

296 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:17:58am

re: #289 NJDhockeyfan

What is happening in Texas? I didn't hear.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

297 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:18:23am

I just heard Mayor Bloomberg use the word "diss."

298 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:19:02am

re: #293 Dark_Falcon

This isn't New Orleans, this is New York City we're talking about. There will be some looting, but a great many of those who try that will be arrested, and those arrests will dampen the desire of others to steal. Let the thieves enjoy their stay on Riker's Island. The NYPD knows how to keep order.

The NYPD don't play. I don't expect to see any videos of police officers walking around Walmart looting with every one else.

299 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:20:07am

In any disaster you will find those who will exploit the situation to further their own interests...

300 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:20:50am

Carrie Nation. Married twice. She could have been a Republican. //

301 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:22:49am
302 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:22:58am

TEH DERP GOES ON AND ON

303 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:24:02am

re: #302 Sheila Broflovski

TEH DERP GOES ON AND ON

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Awesome time to hold a charitable donation hostage.

304 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:24:06am

re: #299 Mocking Jay

In any disaster you will find those who will exploit the situation to further their own interests...

"Never let a crisis go to waste." - Rahm Emmanuel (White House Chief of Staff at the time of the quote, now Mayor of Chicago)

This should not be read to compare Rahm Emmanuel to a looter, either in the criminal sense or the Randian sense. He was expressing a important principal of politics, not advocating misdeeds.

305 garhighway  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:24:37am

re: #227 darthstar

Chris Christie was their milkshake. Obama's drinking it. Remember what Ann Coulter said...if Christie was the GOP candidate right now, President Obama would still be touring the damage with him, and Christie would still be thanking him for his help. It's one thing I like about Christie...for a conservative blow-hard, he's still a blue-collar guy who doesn't bullshit about the important things in times of crisis.

And he has zero chance of being the Republican nominee for President. None. Nada. Zilch. Zero.

306 makeitstopghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:24:46am

re: #290 Mattand

Yeah, you're right. Time to go piss off a deranged conservative.

EDIT: Here's the comment:

There ya go.

I have no time to mince words with stupid people any more. Maybe some realization will sink in on one or two of them.

Eh. Probably not.

307 kirghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:25:54am

re: #298 NJDhockeyfan

The NYPD don't play. I don't expect to see any videos of police officers walking around Walmart looting with every one else.

Well, not in uniform anyway. It's a big city with a very large police force. Odds are there are more thieves than cannibals.

308 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:26:48am

re: #47 Reverend Mother Ramallo

Maybe he needs this link—[Link: www.khanacademy.org...] I have been widely sharing? It's the Introduction to Statistics course (free) at the Khan Academy. :)

309 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:28:08am

re: #281 Mocking Jay

Nothing happened in Palestine today that you're dying to tell us about?

Your Palestine news...

Our Town: Keller girl wins state fair ribbon for local photo

PALESTINE — If you visited the Texas State Fair this year you may have recognized a photo of a Palestine landmark that took first place in the junior photography competition, ages 12 to 17.

While visiting Palestine during the Dogwood Trails Celebration in March earlier this year, Dylan Palmer and her parents, Mark and Julie Palmer of Keller, toured the Texas Theater.

Dylan and her mom took lots of photos around town that day. Dylan’s photo of the theater seemed a good candidate for the Junior Black and White, Architectural Features/Buildings Monuments competition.

Dylan was excited to make it into this particular competition as she just made it into the age bracket, turning 12, only three days before the start of the fair.

Her parents talked to her about the stiff competition in the photography category, but Dylan shined through — winning a blue ribbon or her entry.

Dylan is the granddaughter of former Palestine residents, Jerry and Marilyn Palmer, who now reside in The Woodlands. Her father, Mark Palmer, also is a former resident of Palestine and remembers going to the Texas Theater as a child.

:)

310 kirghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:28:17am

re: #308 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Maybe he needs this link—[Link: www.khanacademy.org...] I have been widely sharing? It's the Introduction to Statistics course (free) at the Khan Academy. :)

fixed link.

311 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:29:09am

re: #283 Sheila Broflovski

There will always be looters after every disaster. "Katrina Heineken Guy" will probably start showing up on Twitter any minute now.

I was wondering how long it would take to see that guy.

312 Lidanghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:29:16am

re: #303 Mocking Jay

Awesome time to hold a charitable donation hostage.

Seriously. He could give that same money to Hurricane Sandy disaster relief without any conditions at all. Of course that would take being a human being first, so it won't happen.

313 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:29:36am

“The very idea that the United Nations — the world body dedicated to diminishing America’s role in the world — would be allowed, if not encouraged, to install foreigners sympathetic to the likes of Castro, Chavez, Ahmadinejad and Putin to oversee our elections is nothing short of disgusting.”


-- Connie Mack

315 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:30:24am

re: #312 Lidane

Seriously. He could give that same money to Hurricane Sandy disaster relief without any conditions at all. Of course that would take being a human being first, so it won't happen.

This is kinda the perfect time for him to show how much he loves the city of New York.

316 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:30:39am

re: #315 Mocking Jay

This is kinda the perfect time for him to show how much he loves the city of New York.

Not to mention Atlantic City.

317 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:30:44am

re: #282 aagcobb

Its unlikely that Florida will be key; if Obama wins there, he'll probably already have 270 EC votes locked up elsewhere.

I'd still be happier if he won Florida easily. It would get Blitzer to shut the fuck up about the race being too close to call.

318 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:30:46am

re: #302 Sheila Broflovski

TEH DERP GOES ON AND ON

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Proper action: Mr. Trump should be presented with a spike from a flooded-out railroad line and invited to use said spike to fuck himself.

319 BongGhazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:31:35am

re: #302 Sheila Broflovski

TEH DERP GOES ON AND ON

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The President has until tomorrow at 12 noon to pick up $5M for his favorite charity. Looking like he won't be doing it. What is he hiding?

If that fuckwad had even a smidgen of honor, he'd just pony up the $5 million.

The sole reason for Trump's offer is the perceived ability to say "gotcha" before the election.

It's childish, is what it is.

320 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:31:51am

re: #315 Mocking Jay

This is kinda the perfect time for him to show how much he loves the city of New York.

He doesn't give a shit about New York. Last night he was bragging that all his buildings had power "because they are so well constructed!" Dumbass, Con Ed supplies the power no matter how the buildings are constructed.

What an ass hole.

321 Lidanghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:31:53am

re: #315 Mocking Jay

This is kinda the perfect time for him to show how much he loves the city of New York.

re: #316 Mocking Jay

Not to mention Atlantic City.

Considering how much money he's made off both, you'd think that giving them disaster relief money would be obvious, but no. He's just an asshole.

322 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:32:38am

re: #319 BongCrodny

If that fuckwad had even a smidgen of honor, he'd just pony up the $5 million.

The sole reason for Trump's offer is the perceived ability to say "gotcha" before the election.

It's childish, is what it is.

He really doesn't even have the $5 million and he never intended to give it to anyone, it is just for attention and self promotion.

323 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:32:50am

re: #314 Killgore Trout

'I'm tired of Bronco Bamma and Mitt Romney' says 4-year-old girl

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I tend to agree with her.

324 makeitstopghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:33:39am

re: #315 Mocking Jay

This is kinda the perfect time for him to show how much he loves the city of New York.

Not without a tax write-off, he won't.

Borrowing Sheila's syntax - the man is an Ass Hole.

325 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:34:22am
326 OhNoBenghazi!  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:34:33am

re: #308 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Maybe he needs this link—[Link: www.khanacademy.org...] I have been widely sharing? It's the Introduction to Statistics course (free) at the Khan Academy. :)

Or this one: Bally's fitness.

327 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:34:35am

re: #316 Mocking Jay

Not to mention Atlantic City.

He loves nothing but money and power, save for his family, for I do think he likely loves his children and grandchildren. But he is not a "neighborhood person", instead Donald Trump is the guy who uses eminent domain to have the neighborhood condemned so that it can be demolished to make room for on of his casinos.

328 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:34:49am

For once I agree with Bryan.

329 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:35:54am

re: #324 makeitstop

Not without a tax write-off, he won't.

Borrowing Sheila's syntax - the man is an Ass Hole.

Or to paraphrase Mr. Bumble: the Trump is a Ass Hole.

330 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:36:07am

re: #314 Killgore Trout

'I'm tired of Bronco Bamma and Mitt Romney' says 4-year-old girl

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She actually pronounces Barack Obama fairly clearly.

331 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:36:18am
332 efuseakay  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:37:43am

re: #178 NJDhockeyfan

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We need fewer police and firefighters... but MOAR BATTLESHIPS!!!!!

333 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:38:33am

Reminds me of when Rudy told the Saudi Prince to shove his 9/11 relief donation

334 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:38:42am
335 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:41:37am

re: #330 darthstar

She actually pronounces Barack Obama fairly clearly.

As a girl she has a lot to cry about if Romney wins.

336 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:41:41am

re: #263 lawhawk

US Navy sending three helicopter carriers to NYC metro area to assist with relief/recovery efforts. USS Wasp, USS Carter Hall, and USS Mesa Verde are on route.

Those troops carriers carry Marines, which gave me a line I'd like said to Trump. R. Lee Ermey would have to say it for maximum effect though:

You Goddamn pultocratic maggot! You make me want to vomit! [punches Trump in gut.]

337 Interesting Times in Benghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:42:54am
338 Joanne  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:43:55am

re: #205 Sheila Broflovski

What do you think disaster relief would be like if it was provided by for-profit corporations?

Since disaster providers would be contracted to the government, and would thusly be public knowledge, as soon as a disaster hits, everyone involved would be snapping up those companies stocks. So, the companies would profit as would the investors. The only ones losing out would be the people who the disaster befell. Because, as has been shown in Iraq and New Orleans, private contracted companies do not do a good job. Profiting on the backs of disaster victims is despicable and should not just be disallowed but outlawed.

339 makeitstopghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:43:57am

re: #330 darthstar

She actually pronounces Barack Obama fairly clearly.

I kinda like 'Bronco Bamma,' though.

341 garhighway  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:45:20am

re: #320 Sheila Broflovski

He doesn't give a shit about New York. Last night he was bragging that all his buildings had power "because they are so well constructed!" Dumbass, Con Ed supplies the power no matter how the buildings are constructed.

What an ass hole.

I could see a building code change that requires all buildings built in flood zones to have their mechanical infrastructure well above any potential flood line. It's that the mechanicals are in the basement that is causing problems now.

342 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:46:05am

re: #339 makeitstop

I kinda like 'Bronco Bamma,' though.

It is a catchy name.

343 OhNoBenghazi!  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:46:47am

My boys and I were at the store, picking out Halloween costumes, and we spotted the Romney and Obama masks.
One Romney mask was on the floor, and my 8 y.o., being helpful, picked up the mask to put it back on the rack.
My 6 y.o. shouts (with his lisp), "No ! Don't pick it up ! It's Mitt Romney -- he's evil !"
And I'm all like, " Shhh! Don't say that so loud!"
It was hilarious.

344 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:47:41am

It has to be the cold, mechanical fingers that cause kids to cry when he touches them...or maybe he gives them a shock due to a short in his circuitry.

345 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:47:47am

re: #293 Dark_Falcon

This isn't New Orleans, this is New York City we're talking about. There will be some looting, but a great many of those who try that will be arrested, and those arrests will dampen the desire of others to steal. Let the thieves enjoy their stay on Riker's Island. The NYPD knows how to keep order.

13 arrests for theft in a city of 8,000,000? That's not even a smoke break for the NYPD.

346 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:48:44am

Priorities.

Steve King: Hurricane Sandy Aid Must Have Strings Attached To Avoid Waste On 'Gucci Bags'

The congressman, who is running for his sixth term, was outspoken about -- among other things -- the need to pay for any spending on disaster relief, an issue he has dealt with before. In 2005, he voted against a bill to help Hurricane Katrina victims because he said it cost too much at $51.8 billion. King was one of only 11 members of Congress to oppose the bill.

King said last week that his vote against Hurricane Katrina relief was "a good vote" and "a principled vote."

347 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:48:44am
348 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:48:53am

re: #343 Reverend Mother Ramallo

My boys and I were at the store, picking out Halloween costumes, and we spotted the Romney and Obama masks.
One Romney mask was on the floor, and my 8 y.o., being helpful, picked up the mask to put it back on the rack.
My 6 y.o. shouts (with his lisp), "No ! Don't pick it up ! It's Mitt Romney -- he's evil !"
And I'm all like, " Shhh! Don't say that so loud!"
It was hilarious.

Mitt Romney isn't evil. He's a decent leader and an extremely capable organizer with a strong eye on the bottom line. He'll make a good president should he win.

349 garhighway  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:49:02am

Per 538, the chance of an Obama victory is up to 77.4%.

350 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:49:08am

re: #345 Decatur Deb

13 arrests for theft in a city of 8,000,000? That's not even a smoke break for the NYPD.

Less arrests than normal no doubt. Plus since everyone stayed home it cut down in traffic deaths. That's the irony of hurricanes in such. It probably cuts down normal every day "casualties."

351 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:49:09am

re: #304 Dark_Falcon

"Never let a crisis go to waste." - Rahm Emmanuel (White House Chief of Staff at the time of the quote, now Mayor of Chicago)

This should not be read to compare Rahm Emmanuel to a looter, either in the criminal sense or the Randian sense. He was expressing a important principalprinciple of politics, not advocating misdeeds.

Sorry; pet peeve. Also, the name is spelled Emanuel. Carry on.

/ arrant pedantry

352 makeitstopghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:50:06am

re: #347 NJDhockeyfan

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He truly does seem sad about losing part of his youth. I do feel for the guy today.

353 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:50:40am

re: #349 garhighway

Per 538, the chance of an Obama victory is up to 77.4%.

That's all fine and dandy, but need I remind you I just won $240 because the Giants won the World Series with 12:1 odds? Vote fuckers...vote!

354 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:50:41am

re: #346 Mocking Jay

Priorities.

Steve King: Hurricane Sandy Aid Must Have Strings Attached To Avoid Waste On 'Gucci Bags'

Fraud and waste aren't trivial matters. Katrina aid was often poorly allocated and wasteful. It is right that Congress provide oversight to ensure that aid for victims of Hurricane Sandy is spent properly.

355 garhighway  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:51:05am

re: #348 Dark_Falcon

Mitt Romney isn't evil. He's a decent leader and an extremely capable organizer with a strong eye on the bottom line. He'll make a good president should he win.

At the beginning of the race, I was OK with the "Mitt isn't evil" thing.

But the last few weeks have made me wonder. The guy will literally say ANYTHING, and never ever correct, amend or apologize.

356 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:51:13am

Gotta run. Later ghouls!

357 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:51:37am

re: #351 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Sorry; pet peeve. Also, the name is spelled Emanuel. Carry on.

/ arrant pedantry

My apologies.

358 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:51:48am

re: #346 Mocking Jay

Priorities.

Steve King: Hurricane Sandy Aid Must Have Strings Attached To Avoid Waste On 'Gucci Bags'

IIRC, FEMA gave out prepaid debit cards to Katrina victims. Most people used the cards to buy necessities like food, but since the cards are like all other prepaid cards, a handful of people used them for frivolous stuff. So in the mind of this wingnut, let's punish everyone!

359 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:51:49am

re: #325 NJDhockeyfan

The @USNavy confirms to @CBSNews it has 3 amphibious vessels on standby to head for NY should there be a request for assistance.

I think my brain is broken. I first read that as "amphibious weasels".

360 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:52:08am

Unreal to see photos of Seaside Heights, I remember going to that boardwalk when I was 3 yrs old. :(

361 makeitstopghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:52:21am

re: #348 Dark_Falcon

Mitt Romney isn't evil. He's a decent leader and an extremely capable organizer with a strong eye on the bottom line. He'll make a good president should he win.

Aren't 'organizers' bad?

And I couldn't differ more on the point about being a good president. He'd be a puppet and a rubber stamp for guys like Shel Adelson - who now own him, lock, stock and barrel.

362 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:52:33am

re: #354 Dark_Falcon

Fraud and waste aren't trivial matters. Katrina aid wa soften poorly allocated and wasteful. It is right that Congress provide oversight to ensure that aid for victims of Hurricane Sandy is spent properly.

So was the aid for Andrew. If you want it fast, you get it dirty--that's built into 'emergency' politics.

363 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:53:52am

re: #359 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

I think my brain is broken. I first read that as "amphibious weasels".

Your brain is fine.

Amphibious weasel:

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364 OhNoBenghazi!  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:54:06am

re: #348 Dark_Falcon

Mitt Romney isn't evil. He's a decent leader and an extremely capable organizer with a strong eye on the bottom line. He'll make a good president should he win.

{{hugs DF}}
No. He wouldn't.

365 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:54:14am

re: #359 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

I think my brain is broken. I first read that as "amphibious weasels".

Might be some of those, too. This is a situation where a vintage M29 Weasel would likely prove quite useful.

366 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:55:12am
367 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:55:44am

re: #365 Dark_Falcon

Might be some of those, too. This is a situation where a vintage M29 Weasel would likely prove quite useful.

22 seconds on ya'.

368 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:55:57am

re: #348 Dark_Falcon

Mitt Romney isn't evil. He's a decent leader and an extremely capable organizer with a strong eye on the bottom line. He'll make a good president should he win.

Mitt Romney said he'll shut down Planned Parenthood. He thinks poor women don't need health care. That's evil.

369 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:58:02am

re: #362 Decatur Deb

So was the aid for Andrew. If you want it fast, you get it dirty--that's built into 'emergency' politics.

Doesn't have to be that way. Owing to Iraq and Afghanistan we've now got lots of people experienced with accounting for aid money. They should be contacted and brought in to oversee distribution of aid. Some waste in unavoidable, but e know know how to keep that waste down to a minimum.

370 garhighway  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:58:12am

re: #353 darthstar

That's all fine and dandy, but need I remind you I just won $240 because the Giants won the World Series with 12:1 odds? Vote fuckers...vote!

Your comment reminds me of what Larry David said when he accepted his first Seinfeld Emmy: "This is all well and good, but I'm still bald."

371 jamesfirecat  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:58:24am

re: #359 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

I think my brain is broken. I first read that as "amphibious weasels".

Ve need to find Nuclear Wessle....

372 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:58:56am
373 Joanne  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:59:07am

re: #228 darthstar

Okay, I hadn't heard this. But if true, it's going to dampen the bump his fake 'storm relief event' campaign rally was supposed to give him.

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[Link: maddowblog.msnbc.com...]

374 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 8:59:26am

re: #369 Dark_Falcon

Doesn't have to be that way. Owing to Iraq and Afghanistan we've now got lots of people experienced with accounting for aid money. They should be contacted and brought in to oversee distribution of aid. Some waste in unavoidable, but e know know how to keep that waste down to a minimum.

Where did that pallet of US currency go missing?

"We were in a hurry". And you know enough about DoD contracting to know better.

375 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:00:56am

re: #373 Joanne

[Link: maddowblog.msnbc.com...]

"Just grab something."

As supporters lined up to greet the candidate, a young volunteer in a Romney/Ryan t-shirt stood near the tables, his hands cupped around his mouth, shouting, "You need a donation to get in line!"

Empty-handed supporters pled for entrance, with one woman asking, "What if we dropped off our donations up front?"

The volunteer gestured toward a pile of groceries conveniently stacked near the candidate. "Just grab something," he said.

Two teenage boys retrieved a jar of peanut butter each, and got in line. When it was their turn, they handed their "donations" to Romney. He took them, smiled, and offered an earnest "Thank you."

376 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:01:56am
377 GunstarGreen  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:02:37am

re: #275 Mattand

Plus, the teacher-bashing he does results in everyone shitting on teachers around here.

The whole "It's not the teachers we hate, it's the unions" speil is incredibly disingenuous, because quite frankly people aren't that smart. They're not going to be happy until teachers are making $12,000 a year max, and then wonder why the schools suck worse.

Sometimes, I get to feeling like this country could benefit greatly from a nice, hard teacher's walk-out. Not for a pay raise or working conditions betterment, mind you, but to stop teaching until people stop treating teachers like shit.

Oh those horrible greedy teachers, indoctrinatin' our chillen? Alright fuckwads, educate your own brats for five to ten years, and when they come out retarded and unable to perform basic functions in modern society, blame yourselves.

378 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:04:04am

"Buzzfeed, that libelous rag..." I love it when Alex Wagner kicks off her show in the morning. She calls any site that criticizes or sheds light on Romney a 'libelous rag'...the other day, she used the term for three of her guests' sites.

379 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:04:14am

re: #374 Decatur Deb

Where did that pallet of US currency go missing?

"We were in a hurry". And you know enough about DoD contracting to know better.

That's why Katrina used debit cards instead of cash. That pallet of currency was likely stolen with the connivance of at least some of the people supposed to be guarding it. Saddam had lots of smugglers on his payroll and such people likely convinced some money-tight soldiers to let the pallet disappear in exchange for a cut of the proceeds.

The above paragraph is an educated guess and not a definitive statement of what actually happened.

380 OhNoBenghazi!  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:04:30am

re: #375 darthstar

"Just grab something."

They all need a cock punch.

381 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:05:52am

re: #380 Reverend Mother Ramallo

They all need a cock punch.

Violence!

[Faints.]

382 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:07:02am

re: #378 darthstar

usually, when she says that, it strikes me more as snark.

383 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:07:23am

Israeli Defense Chief Says Iran Postponed Nuclear Ambitions
By RICK GLADSTONE
Published: October 30, 2012

Israel’s defense minister said Tuesday that the country had interpreted Iran’s conversion of some enriched uranium to fuel rods for civilian use as evidence that Iran had delayed ambitions to build a nuclear weapon.

The assertion, by Defense Minister Ehud Barak in an interview with The Daily Telegraph, a British newspaper, amounted to the first explanation from him as to why he and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu softened their position in September over the possibility of a military strike to thwart what they called Iran’s drive toward imminent nuclear weapons capability.

Their tough position on Iran, which they consider Israel’s most dangerous enemy, had generated tensions with the Obama administration, which has contended that Iran is many months away from the ability to make a nuclear weapon...

384 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:08:02am

Lies!

//

385 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:08:05am

re: #379 Dark_Falcon

That's why Katrina used debit cards instead of cash. That pallet of currency was likely stolen with the connivance of at least some of the people supposed to be guarding it. Saddam had lots of smugglers on his payroll and such people likely convinced some money-tight soldiers to let the pallet disappear in exchange for a cut of the proceeds.

The above paragraph is an educated guess and not a definitive statement of what actually happened.

It was stolen because the normal controls were overthrown in the name of expedient haste. Saw the same thing happen to a pallet of Gateway computers on JTF Andrew, though they disappeared to unregulated DoD property book holders more than to simple theft.

386 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:08:43am

Paul Ryan - still not good on the photo-op timing.

[Link: www.buzzfeed.com...]

In Hudson, the packing was proceeding too quickly, and the supporters wearing red "Team Wisconsin" t-shirts were given the order to slow down and then to stop to be sure there were still goods to be packed when Ryan entered.

One by one the boxes were filled and loaded into a waiting U-Haul, and then they stopped to wait for the candidate.

387 OhNoBenghazi!  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:08:56am

re: #381 Gus

Violence!

[Faints.]

LOL!
Watch your hea...
Oooh. Shit! That's gonna leave a mark...

388 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:10:03am

re: #382 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

usually, when she says that, it strikes me more as snark.

It's total snark. And her opening monologues can be very entertaining. After the second debate, she used 30 boxing metaphors in the space of five minutes...I was laughing out loud in my car as I listened.

389 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:10:35am

re: #377 GunstarGreen

Sometimes, I get to feeling like this country could benefit greatly from a nice, hard teacher's walk-out. Not for a pay raise or working conditions betterment, mind you, but to stop teaching until people stop treating teachers like shit.

Oh those horrible greedy teachers, indoctrinatin' our chillen? Alright fuckwads, educate your own brats for five to ten years, and when they come out retarded and unable to perform basic functions in modern society, blame yourselves.

If I were a governor, I'd answer that with legal action to punish any teachers taking part for in such a wildcat strike in violation of their contracts allied to aggressive police enforcement for trespassing and disorderly conduct laws to handle picketers. I'd also see if such a coordinated labor action in violation of contract could be dealt with under my state's version of RICO.

390 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:10:44am

re: #387 Reverend Mother Ramallo

LOL!
Watch your hea...
Oooh. Shit! That's gonna leave a mark...

We'll have to deploy the fainting couch a little closer to Gus. Hey, grab those pearls while he's out! And take his monocle before he drops it....

391 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:10:48am
392 erik_t  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:11:19am

re: #386 darthstar

Paul Ryan - still not good on the photo-op timing.

[Link: www.buzzfeed.com...]

No wonder Brownie thought Obama moved too fast on hurricane relief. Ryan hadn't arrived yet.

393 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:12:29am

re: #389 Dark_Falcon

If I were a governor, I'd answer that with legal action to punish any teachers taking part for in such a wildcat strike in violation of their contracts allied to aggressive police enforcement for trespassing and disorderly conduct laws to handle picketers. I'd also see if such a coordinated labor action in violation of contract could be dealt with under my state's version of RICO.

Suggestion: don't try for a career in politics.

394 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:12:47am

Totally OT, but I just learned my niece has landed an internship at a place in midtown Manhattan (42nd St. near the Library & Bryant Park), starting in January. We know nothing of the city. Can anyone help with suggestions as to where she should look for housing? Ideally it would be affordable, convenient and in a safe neighborhood, but I'm guessing we may not be able to get all three of these. Ideas?

395 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:13:14am

re: #390 wrenchwench

We'll have to deploy the fainting couch a little closer to Gus. Hey, grab those pearls while he's out! And take his monocle before he drops it....

Have the smelling salts ready!

396 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:13:49am

If you are planning to throw a hurricane disaster, you definitely want to do it in an election year.

397 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:14:31am

re: #394 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Totally OT, but I just learned my niece has landed an internship at a place in midtown Manhattan (42nd St. near the Library & Bryant Park), starting in January. We know nothing of the city. Can anyone help with suggestions as to where she should look for housing? Ideally it would be affordable, convenient and in a safe neighborhood, but I'm guessing we may not be able to get all three of these. Ideas?

Pennsylvania. (Not totally kidding.)

398 alpuz  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:15:19am

re: #389 Dark_Falcon

Oh my! Go on...

399 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:15:21am

re: #397 Decatur Deb

Pennsylvania. (Not totally kidding.)

So what's that commute like?

400 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:15:52am

re: #389 Dark_Falcon

If I were a governor, I'd answer that with legal action to punish any teachers taking part for in such a wildcat strike in violation of their contracts allied to aggressive police enforcement for trespassing and disorderly conduct laws to handle picketers. I'd also see if such a coordinated labor action in violation of contract could be dealt with under my state's version of RICO.

Stabby.

401 jamesfirecat  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:16:33am

re: #389 Dark_Falcon

If I were a governor, I'd answer that with legal action to punish any teachers taking part for in such a wildcat strike in violation of their contracts allied to aggressive police enforcement for trespassing and disorderly conduct laws to handle picketers. I'd also see if such a coordinated labor action in violation of contract could be dealt with under my state's version of RICO.

Please proceed governor....

402 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:16:35am

re: #399 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

So what's that commute like?

People do it. Across the Delaware Water Gap on Rt 80 to the GW Bridge.

403 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:16:41am

re: #394 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Totally OT, but I just learned my niece has landed an internship at a place in midtown Manhattan (42nd St. near the Library & Bryant Park), starting in January. We know nothing of the city. Can anyone help with suggestions as to where she should look for housing? Ideally it would be affordable, convenient and in a safe neighborhood, but I'm guessing we may not be able to get all three of these. Ideas?

Royal Oak, Michigan.

Oh wait, you said convenient.

Crown Heights, Brooklyn hasn't been overrun by hipsters. Yet.

404 makeitstopghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:16:49am

re: #389 Dark_Falcon

If I were a governor, I'd answer that with legal action to punish any teachers taking part for in such a wildcat strike in violation of their contracts allied to aggressive police enforcement for trespassing and disorderly conduct laws to handle picketers. I'd also see if such a coordinated labor action in violation of contract could be dealt with under my state's version of RICO.

Here we go....

405 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:17:23am

re: #403 Sheila Broflovski

Royal Oak, Michigan.

Oh wait, you said convenient.

Crown Heights, Brooklyn hasn't been overrun by hipsters. Yet.

Could probably pull it off at about 4 interns to the room.

406 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:17:30am

re: #402 Decatur Deb

People do it. Across the Delaware Water Gap on Rt 80 to the GW Bridge.

That's about 90 minutes, but usually much longer because of traffic.

407 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:18:41am

re: #402 Decatur Deb

People do it. Across the Delaware Water Gap on Rt 80 to the GW Bridge.

She won't have a car, most likely. Is there public transporation?

408 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:19:13am

Majority Think Obama Will Win

A new Gallup poll finds a majority of Americans continue to believe that President Obama will win re-election Tuesday over Mitt Romney, by 54% to 34%.

409 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:19:22am
410 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:19:25am

re: #205 Sheila Broflovski

What do you think disaster relief would be like if it was provided by for-profit corporations?

Need rescued from here? $10,000.00 should do it. Oh, you want the kids to come too? $5000.00 apiece. Dog? $2000.00.

411 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:19:40am

re: #407 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

with no car she might be better off finding a place in Newark and then taking the subway/trains to the city.

412 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:19:54am

We'll find out soon enough but that's still pretty funny.

413 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:20:00am

re: #401 jamesfirecat

Please proceed governor....

Ooh...PWNAGE!

414 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:20:28am

re: #380 Reverend Mother Ramallo

They all need a cock punch.

It's been awhile since I've done this:

[D&D crossover]
You can't cock punch Mitt Romney or any other practicing Mormon for that matter. He has Special Item: Magic Underpants that automatically protect his penis against any melee attack. Moreover attempting a cock punch on Mitt Romney not only fails to injure him but also allows him to use Transmute Soul as a Free Action:

Transmute Soul: Usable at any time, takes 2 turns to recharge. +1 Difficulty to use

If the attack succeeds, target takes 6D^ Physic Damage and must make an immediate Saving Roll to prevent further damage.

1st Failed Saving Roll: Target takes an extra 3D6 Physic Damage.
2nd Failed Saving Roll: Target's soul is sucked out of their body and transmuted into a large gold coin called a Soul Coin. The Soul Coin is worth 10,000 Gold.

See Fate of Transmuted Souls for more details on Soul Coins.
[/D&D Crossover]

415 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:22:15am

re: #414 Dark_Falcon

Are you mocking your candidate's religion? Not helpful.

416 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:22:33am

re: #407 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

She won't have a car, most likely. Is there public transporation?

More seriously, she will have to find a bunch of kids to room with. There is probably nothing in Manhattan for her now. (I lived a short walk from the Library when I made $35 per week. Friends around the corner at 1 Park Ave weren't making much more, but they had about 5-6 girls in the small apartment any given month. That's all over now.)

417 kirghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:22:48am

re: #399 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

So what's that commute like?

The AMTRAK monthly ticket from 30th street (philadelphia) to Penn (New York) is ~$1345, and the ride is about an hour and a half. To compare, the daily each way is ~$100 and you "expect" 20 days of work a month.

418 Kung Fughazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:23:30am

re: #389 Dark_Falcon

If I were a governor, I'd answer that with legal action to punish any teachers taking part for in such a wildcat strike in violation of their contracts allied to aggressive police enforcement for trespassing and disorderly conduct laws to handle picketers. I'd also see if such a coordinated labor action in violation of contract could be dealt with under my state's version of RICO.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Yes, please, let's repeat that part of American history that we're all so proud of. Maybe we can bring back internment camps while we're at it.

419 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:23:46am

re: #405 Decatur Deb

Could probably pull it off at about 4 interns to the room.

Wouldn't that draw Bill Clinton's interest, though?

/If he's campaigning, he's fair game.

420 Ojoe  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:24:00am

My dad died in 1992. He flew a P-38 in the Pacific theater. He lost his only brother, who went down in a B-17, during the war.

This ad in no way speaks for him.

Whoever made it can eat my toasted shorts in hell.

421 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:24:30am

Oh boy.

422 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:24:39am

re: #415 darthstar

Are you mocking your candidate's religion? Not helpful.

No, I'm just having fun.

423 alpuz  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:25:26am

re: #421 Gus

I'm feeling it.

424 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:25:29am

Someone get the smelling salts! Ojoe fainted!

425 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:25:50am

re: #419 Dark_Falcon

Wouldn't that draw Bill Clinton's interest, though?

/If he's campaigning, he's fair game.

Clinton earned every dirty joke he ever hears. Voted for him twice.

426 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:26:30am

re: #416 Decatur Deb

More seriously, she will have to find a bunch of kids to room with. There is probably nothing in Manhattan for her now. (I lived a short walk from the Library when I made $35 per week. Friends around the corner at 1 Park Ave weren't making much more, but they had about 5-6 girls in the small apartment and given month. That's all over now.)

Just checked some listings. 1-2 bedroom apt in Crown Heights going for around $1K/mo

427 alpuz  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:26:38am

re: #425 Decatur Deb

If all goes well, I'll be seeing him tonight.

428 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:27:24am

You couldn't PAY ME enough to live in NY.

429 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:27:33am

re: #420 Ojoe

My dad died in 1992. He flew a P-38 in the Pacific theater. He lost his only brother, who went down in a B-17, during the war.

This ad in no way speaks for him.

Whoever made it can eat my toasted shorts in hell.

The P-38 did very well in the Pacific, where its long range and twin engines gave it an endurance and survivability edge over other US fighters. Towards the end of the war the P-47N had begun to challenge the P-38 in terms of range, but having two engines was still a critical advantage for long flights over water.

430 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:27:52am

re: #427 alpuz

If all goes well, I'll be seeing him tonight.

Cool. He was a very good president, and a putz.

431 Jolo5309  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:27:57am

re: #427 alpuz

If all goes well, I'll be seeing him tonight.

Does Hilary know?

432 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:28:48am

re: #420 Ojoe

My dad died in 1992. He flew a P-38 in the Pacific theater. He lost his only brother, who went down in a B-17, during the war.

This ad in no way speaks for him.

Whoever made it can eat my toasted shorts in hell.

Its was made by a MooreOnic convergence.

433 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:29:33am

re: #430 Decatur Deb

Cool. He was a very good president, and a putz.

"Putz" in the literal sense, at that.

434 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:30:02am

Yes. Because conservatives "own" WWII. The war led by FDR the "socialist" president. Got it.

Again with the right-wing myths.

435 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:30:33am

re: #420 Ojoe

My dad died in 1992. He flew a P-38 in the Pacific theater. He lost his only brother, who went down in a B-17, during the war.

This ad in no way speaks for him.

Whoever made it can eat my toasted shorts in hell.

My grandfather died about five years earlier, in the bed of a woman not his (estranged) wife. He was born in Chicago. He didn't learn English until he started school at age 8. He got relatively rich by starting a rendering company with his four brothers.

This ad doesn't speak for him, either. Nobody can speak for the dead. Whoever made it has my thanks. And the actors in it even more so.

436 kirghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:30:39am

re: #389 Dark_Falcon

If I were a governor, I'd answer that with legal action to punish any teachers taking part for in such a wildcat strike in violation of their contracts allied to aggressive police enforcement for trespassing and disorderly conduct laws to handle picketers. I'd also see if such a coordinated labor action in violation of contract could be dealt with under my state's version of RICO.

Which tells me you don't even really know the law. A wildcat strike is not one done "in violation of contracts". "No-strike" clauses in contracts are, at best, interesting.

A wildcat strike is a strike done without the involvement of the union officials.

Interestingly, if there is no union it still cannot be a wildcat strike.

The sum total of action that can be taken for this strike is the teachers can be fired. That's it.

Can they be charged with criminal trespass? That depends on where they put the picket line. And the really fun test cases come when the property is (nominally) public - such as school grounds.

Can you hit them with a state RICO? Need to show they're conspiring to commit a crime - and striking is not a crime.

It is not illegal to negotiate for better benefits, nor is it illegal to take your case for benefits and conditions to the press.

437 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:32:24am

re: #435 wrenchwench

My grandfather died about five years earlier, in the bed of a woman not his (estranged) wife.

He got to go coming. That's nice.

438 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:33:20am

re: #375 darthstar

"Just grab something."

Humanitarian Aid Theater.

439 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:33:48am

re: #437 darthstar

He got to go coming. That's nice.

Who knows, he may have been asleep. But I was glad to hear he had some pleasant company after the 49 years he spent with my grandmother.

440 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:33:59am

What with Romney being a chickenhawk and all high tailing it to France. Oh the irony.

441 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:35:30am
442 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:35:33am

Cough, cough, cough, cough.

December 24th, 2011 1:26 AM
Christmas ’43

Excerpted from Here Comes Trouble: Stories From My Life by Michael Moore

My dad had noticed for some years that I no longer wanted to shoot guns. He had taken note of when we boys in the neighborhood had stopped playing War. I didn’t know much about his time as a Marine in the South Pacific during World War II. The only clues my sisters and I got was when he would name our dogs after battles he was in: Peleliu, Tarawa, etc. In our attic he kept some war souvenirs: a Japanese flag, a sword, and the gun he had taken off a Japanese soldier. One day, without explanation, Dad decided he no longer wanted these items in our house. He quietly went and got a shovel out of the garage, gathered together the Japanese spoils of war, and went out to the large weeping willow tree in our backyard. He dug a hole — a very, very deep hole — and buried the gun and the sword and flag under the shade of that tree. When it was all done and the earth had been restored, he stood there alone, looking down, deep in thought or prayer or who knows what. I watched from my bedroom window.

Continues.

443 OhNoBenghazi!  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:36:29am

re: #414 Dark_Falcon

It's been awhile since I've done this:

[D&D crossover]
You can't cock punch Mitt Romney or any other practicing Mormon for that matter. He has Special Item: Magic Underpants that automatically protect his penis against any melee attack. Moreover attempting a cock punch on Mitt Romney not only fails to injure him but also allows him to use Transmute Soul as a Free Action:

Transmute Soul: Usable at any time, takes 2 turns to recharge. +1 Difficulty to use

If the attack succeeds, target takes 6D^ Physic Damage and must make an immediate Saving Roll to prevent further damage.

1st Failed Saving Roll: Target takes an extra 3D6 Physic Damage.
2nd Failed Saving Roll: Target's soul is sucked out of their body and transmuted into a large gold coin called a Soul Coin. The Soul Coin is worth 10,000 Gold.

See Fate of Transmuted Souls for more details on Soul Coins.
[/D&D Crossover]

It's worth the risk.

444 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:36:47am

re: #442 Gus

Cough, cough, cough, cough.

December 24th, 2011 1:26 AM
Christmas ’43

...

Frank’s father had served in the Marines in World War I, and his uncle Tom had been a doughboy in the trenches in France during that same war. Having been gassed by the Germans, Tom was of ill health and thus lived with Frank and the family in Flint. Frank got to see up close the effect that nasty war had on these two good men. Neither could explain to Frank why America had gone to war in 1917, and so when the drums began to beat again, Frank wanted to know exactly what this one was all about. Yes, it was enough that the nation was attacked — but was there something else we should know? Anything? Something? OK, well, those bastards destroying our fleet was certainly good enough for Frank. He was ready to go fight.

445 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:36:47am

I found this ad ugly and inflammatory. Michael Moore at near his worst. Shame on MoveOm.org for funding his production of it. And while it is Charles' blog, I believe he was wrong to post that ad.

446 GunstarGreen  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:37:22am

re: #389 Dark_Falcon

re: #436 kirkspencer

Worth noting is that I used the term 'walk-out' instead of 'strike' deliberately. First, to cover cases where teaching isn't unionized, second, to pointedly not invoke striking and picketing.

I'm talking about walking the hell out. Getting up from the desk, telling the kids to report to the gym or wherever the largest assembly location is to await bus pickup and transport back home, and walking out -- not to return until this nation grows the hell up about how it treats its educators.

447 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:37:44am

I fired up Minecraft this morning and all the Mobs are wearing pumpkins on their heads. Very cute.

448 Joanne  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:37:48am

re: #348 Dark_Falcon

Mitt Romney isn't evil. He's a decent leader and an extremely capable organizer with a strong eye on the bottom line. He'll make a good president should he win.

And what proof of this do you offer? The Olympics where Romney got unprecedented federal funds, while saying feds shouldn't do anything? What kind of leader? Where has he led? In business, tearing down other businesses to make solely make money?

Here's a concept...what does the government of the US make and sell? Why would a business person make a better president? My proof? Hoover and Bush.

449 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:38:48am

re: #445 Dark_Falcon

I found this ad ugly and inflammatory. Michael Moore at near his worst. Shame on MoveOm.org for funding his production of it. And while it is Charles' blog, I believe he was wrong to post that ad.

Screw that. After all the bullshit movies the fucking right wingers put out about Obama? Inflammatory? Give me a fucking break.

450 makeitstopghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:39:05am

re: #445 Dark_Falcon

I found this ad ugly and inflammatory. Michael Moore at near his worst. Shame on MoveOm.org for funding his production of it. And while it is Charles' blog, I believe he was wrong to post that ad.

Fainting couch in Aisle 5...

451 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:40:04am

re: #442 Gus

Cough, cough, cough, cough.

December 24th, 2011 1:26 AM
Christmas ’43

Michael Moore remains an ass, but that story was heartfelt and honest.

452 garhighway  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:40:08am

re: #420 Ojoe

My dad died in 1992. He flew a P-38 in the Pacific theater. He lost his only brother, who went down in a B-17, during the war.

This ad in no way speaks for him.

Whoever made it can eat my toasted shorts in hell.

So your dad would be OK with voter suppression?

453 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:40:57am

re: #445 Dark_Falcon

I found this ad ugly and inflammatory. Michael Moore at near his worst. Shame on MoveOm.org for funding his production of it. And while it is Charles' blog, I believe he was wrong to post that ad.

I have found the Republicans ugly and inflammatory since about four years ago, but they've been exceeding themselves this campaign season. The War on Women is real, and it's disgusting. The racism is disheartening and maddening at the same time.

I love watching old people express themselves freely.

454 garhighway  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:41:15am

re: #445 Dark_Falcon

I found this ad ugly and inflammatory. Michael Moore at near his worst. Shame on MoveOm.org for funding his production of it. And while it is Charles' blog, I believe he was wrong to post that ad.

The point is that voter suppression is shameful. And it is.

455 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:41:26am

The party of Swiftboating is shocked! Shocked I tell you!

456 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:41:51am

re: #420 Ojoe

My dad died in 1992. He flew a P-38 in the Pacific theater. He lost his only brother, who went down in a B-17, during the war.

This ad in no way speaks for him.

Whoever made it can eat my toasted shorts in hell.

My dad, WW2 Pacific Navy vet, who died 2 years ago, would think it kicks ass!

457 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:42:46am

re: #450 makeitstop

Fainting couch in Aisle 5...

No fainting here. But I do take blood pressure medicine. So if I ever faint, don't call for a fainting couch, call 911.

Not joking on that last.

458 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:43:44am

re: #456 Sheila Broflovski

My dad, WW2 Pacific Navy vet, who died 2 years ago, would think it kicks ass!

I'm sure somewhere First Lieutenant George McGovern also approves this message. ;)

459 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:44:41am

Max Cleland.

Cough, cough, cough.

460 Joanne  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:44:51am

re: #377 GunstarGreen

Sometimes, I get to feeling like this country could benefit greatly from a nice, hard teacher's walk-out. Not for a pay raise or working conditions betterment, mind you, but to stop teaching until people stop treating teachers like shit.

Oh those horrible greedy teachers, indoctrinatin' our chillen? Alright fuckwads, educate your own brats for five to ten years, and when they come out retarded and unable to perform basic functions in modern society, blame yourselves.

Sometimes I think this should apply to all those Job Creators who are oh so important. One week of every worker in their company taking off and let's see how job creatory these people are.

It's not that I take anything from entrepreneurs, its the ones who think they did and do everything, because from teachers to streets to what is actually produced, even in business, it is a collective effort.

461 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:44:59am

Tammy Duckworth.

Cough, cough, cough.

462 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:45:10am

re: #458 Gus

I'm sure somewhere First Lieutenant George McGovern also approves this message. ;)

I doubt it. That kind of violent fantasy is more the kind of thing Nixon went in for. Oh, he didn't say it publicly, but in private Nixon was quite nasty.

463 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:45:10am

John F. Kennedy.

Cough, cough, cough.

464 Lidanghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:45:15am
465 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:45:21am

re: #456 Sheila Broflovski

My dad, WW2 Pacific Navy vet, who died 2 years ago, would think it kicks ass!

Mine, who might have been in the same B-17, didn't leave a message. I'll speak for him.

466 Joanne  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:45:56am

re: #378 darthstar

"Buzzfeed, that libelous rag..." I love it when Alex Wagner kicks off her show in the morning. She calls any site that criticizes or sheds light on Romney a 'libelous rag'...the other day, she used the term for three of her guests' sites.

Are you sure that isn't in jest?

467 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:46:00am

re: #461 Gus

Tammy Duckworth.

Cough, cough, cough.

Max Cleland would like to delegate some ass kicking.

468 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:46:25am

re: #445 Dark_Falcon

I found this ad ugly and inflammatory. Michael Moore at near his worst. Shame on MoveOm.org for funding his production of it. And while it is Charles' blog, I believe he was wrong to post that ad.

Your concern is noted...and dismissed.

469 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:46:44am

re: #455 Gus

The party of Swiftboating is shocked! Shocked I tell you!

That's tactics.

Michael Moore is defiling the Moai of Traditional Values.

I mean, it's not like the Greatest Generation were actually diverse people with flaws. They were infallible and constantly cast in light like a Thomas Kinkade painting.

And obviously all the wingnuts taking offense on their behalf are totally justified in telling old people what their values were and how they should respond to this ad.

470 Joanne  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:47:06am

re: #389 Dark_Falcon

If I were a governor, I'd answer that with legal action to punish any teachers taking part for in such a wildcat strike in violation of their contracts allied to aggressive police enforcement for trespassing and disorderly conduct laws to handle picketers. I'd also see if such a coordinated labor action in violation of contract could be dealt with under my state's version of RICO.

Of course you would.

471 kirghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:47:20am

I have one remaining uncle who served in WWII. (Army). He's voting for Obama.

472 blueraven  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:47:27am

re: #455 Gus

The party of Swiftboating is shocked! Shocked I tell you!

And Lee Atwater was a saint as we all know.
/

473 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:47:42am
474 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:48:11am

re: #466 Joanne

Are you sure that isn't in jest?

I know it's in jest...hence my loving it.

475 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:48:12am

re: #464 Lidane

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OK, that's about as ugly a depiction of this election as I've yet seen. Not inappropriate, just plain ugly. As bad or worse than the Moore ad above.

476 efuseakay  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:48:18am

re: #457 Dark_Falcon

No fainting here. But I do take blood pressure medicine. So if I ever faint, don't call for a fainting couch, call 911.

Not joking on that last.

No-can-do. Not enough firefighters. Romney fired them.

477 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:48:57am

Yeah. I'm pretty sure the "greatest generation" would like to see their Social Security privatized. Yep.

478 makeitstopghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:49:06am

re: #464 Lidane

NY Post publishes anti-Obama cartoon with disturbing racial connotations

Good God.

Time's getting short. Some Republican better drop an N-Bomb while they're still got the chance.

only half/

479 Joanne  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:49:18am

re: #392 erik_t

No wonder Brownie thought Obama moved too fast on hurricane relief. Ryan hadn't arrived yet.

Jesus Christ, enough with the 1950s style disaster relief. Honestly, when Obama said that Romney is stuck in the past in his every thought, this completely demonstrates it.

480 efuseakay  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:49:44am

re: #475 Dark_Falcon

OK, that's about as ugly a depiction of this election as I've yet seen. Not inappropriate, just plain ugly. As bad or worse than the Moore ad above.

Obama witch doctor... oh wait... that was last election. Never mind.

481 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:49:46am

re: #464 Lidane

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HOLY FREAKING CRAP

482 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:49:52am

re: #477 Gus

Yeah. I'm pretty sure the "greatest generation" would like to see their Social Security privatized. Yep.

Well, that's not going to happen no matter who wins.

483 OhNoBenghazi!  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:49:53am

re: #462 Dark_Falcon

I doubt it. That kind of violent fantasy is more the kind of thing Nixon went in for. Oh, he didn't say it publicly, but in private Nixon was quite nasty.

An old lady threatening a cock punch isn't exactly what I would call a violent fantasy.
I have high blood pressure, too.
Lighten up, it helps.

484 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:50:34am

re: #462 Dark_Falcon

I doubt it. That kind of violent fantasy is more the kind of thing Nixon went in for. Oh, he didn't say it publicly, but in private Nixon was quite nasty.

Man who constantly uses violent idioms concerned by use of violent idioms.

It's like a pearl-clutching Moebius strip.

485 makeitstopghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:50:58am

re: #475 Dark_Falcon

Not inappropriate, just plain ugly.

What the fuck, Dark?

486 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:51:00am

re: #482 Dark_Falcon

Well, that's not going to happen no matter who wins.

487 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:51:27am

re: #464 Lidane

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Horses and bayonets?
Your argument is invalid.
Image: 300px-USS_Nimitz_(CVN-68).jpg

488 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:51:33am

re: #461 Gus

Tammy Duckworth.

Cough, cough, cough.

And John McCain, George Bush the Elder, and don't forget Bob Dole.

489 sagehen  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:52:16am

re: #239 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. He's been that way from the beginning. Chris Christie is prepared to do his part for the party, but not at the expense of his duties. And frankly, that's what New Jersey needed in 2009 and needs now more than ever.

He also needs to make up for being AWOL during that snowstorm; he thought he could phone it in, and discovered it actually does make a difference to be there in person.

490 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:52:20am
491 kirghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:52:31am

re: #464 Lidane

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Aaaand, I'm going to say some folk are overthinking this one. What was the remark in the debate, "Horses and bayonets"?

Oh, I think it's wrong (Romney hasn't taken over the lead in the polls) but I can't say it's subliminally or borderline racist without having to raise the question of whether ANY political cartoon noting Obama is a black man is borderline racist.

492 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:52:38am

re: #482 Dark_Falcon

Well, that's not going to happen no matter who wins.

No danger if Romney/Ryan win. We can rely on the hope that they've been lying all along.

493 blueraven  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:52:49am
494 efuseakay  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:53:03am

re: #488 Dark_Falcon

And John McCain, George Bush the Elder, and don't forget Bob Dole.

John Kerry. Wasn't he actually in Vietnam?

495 blueraven  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:54:10am

re: #488 Dark_Falcon

And John McCain, George Bush the Elder, and don't forget Bob Dole.

Yes, the GOP operatives will eat their own.

496 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:54:10am

re: #491 kirkspencer

Aaaand, I'm going to say some folk are overthinking this one. What was the remark in the debate, "Horses and bayonets"?

Oh, I think it's wrong (Romney hasn't taken over the lead in the polls) but I can't say it's subliminally or borderline racist without having to raise the question of whether ANY political cartoon noting Obama is a black man is borderline racist.

If it was really non-racist, it would have shown Obama driving a a Volt instead of running.

497 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:54:23am

re: #488 Dark_Falcon

And John McCain, George Bush the Elder, and don't forget Bob Dole.

Jimmy Carter.

498 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:54:25am
499 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:54:34am
500 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:54:59am

re: #492 Decatur Deb

No danger if Romney/Ryan win. We can rely on the hope that they've been lying all along.

No, Paul Ryan has made very clear from the get-go that the benefits plan for current retirees will not be changed in form. On that, he has been consistent for years.

501 efuseakay  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:55:33am

re: #500 Dark_Falcon

No, Paul Ryan has made very clear from the get-go that the benefits plan for current retirees will not be changed in form. On that, he has been consistent for years.

Screw all the rest of you!

502 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:55:41am

re: #500 Dark_Falcon

No, Paul Ryan has made very clear from the get-go that the benefits plan for current retirees will not be changed in form. On that, he has been consistent for years.

It's just the rest who are screwed.
;)

503 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:56:04am

re: #500 Dark_Falcon

Glad it will be the same for them, considering I am paying into that system it should be the same for me when I retire.

504 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:56:11am

re: #498 Gus

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“I believe the preservation of America depends on pastors,” said Robert Jeffress, senior pastor of the 10,000-member First Baptist Church of Dallas. “This is no time for God’s men to be passive. It’s time to stand up and push back against all the evil in our country.

“Tell your people that they have a choice: to cast a vote for righteousness or vote for unrighteousness.”

Jeffress urged the capacity crowd at the A La Carte Event Pavilion in Tampa to use their pulpit time this Sunday to stress the importance of voting for the candidate who supports the “biblical values” of the sanctity of marriage, sanctity of life and religious freedom.

Stay silent, he warned them, and you’re no different than German Lutheran pastors who didn’t speak out against Hitler’s growing influence in the late 1930s. That lack of action led to the Holocaust, he said.

505 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:56:33am

re: #504 Gus

...

Cockpunch! Outrage!

506 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:57:09am

re: #239 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. He's been that way from the beginning. Chris Christie is prepared to do his part for the party, but not at the expense of his duties. And frankly, that's what New Jersey needed in 2009 and needs now more than ever.

In times like this, in the aftermath of Sandy, people need men (and women) of action: President Obama and Gov. Christie can pull it off, Mitt can't.

507 Sionainn  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:57:14am

re: #501 efuseakay

Screw all the rest of you!

Exactly. Well fuck Romney and Ryan. I don't want them fucking things up for people my age.

508 OhNoBenghazi!  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:57:15am

re: #464 Lidane

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Looks like a scene from 'The Birth of a Nation'.
Fuckers.

509 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:57:25am

re: #500 Dark_Falcon

No, Paul Ryan has made very clear from the get-go that the benefits plan for current retirees will not be changed in form. On that, he has been consistent for years.

It never occurred to him that we 'current retirees' might be concerned with someone other than ourselves. (Social security is a very small part of my retirement.)

510 makeitstopghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:58:03am

In other news: The winds are back here, this time out of the West.

Nowhere near on the scale of Monday night - but stiff enough to put a good chill into you with today's temperatures.

511 efuseakay  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:58:13am

re: #507 Sionainn

Exactly. Well fuck Romney and Ryan. I don't want them fucking things up for people my age.

Don't forget about the unborn people too!

512 Sionainn  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:58:17am

re: #504 Gus

...

Egads. These people need some serious meds and hospitalization.

513 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:58:18am

You know. The Greatest Generation...

Part of the... wait for it... 47%.

514 darthstar  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:59:22am

Finally, Mitt Romney gets some positive press coverage about his Jeep-China message of hope...

Romney’s lies about Jeep and GM are no less egregious than the lies he tells about his views on women’s freedom and equal pay, healthcare, middle class taxes, Medicare, Social Security, and so much more. No less egregious or ruining of reputations than when he smeared 47% of the country as lazy victims who felt “entitled” to food and shelter. But heck, it was okay when he was smearing those people. If it wasn’t exactly okay, it was up for debate. Were they not paying taxes, who wasn’t paying taxes, why and how much – these were issues.

But when he started smearing corporations and hurting business, well that was enough of that. Mitt Romney can make enemies anywhere at any time. That much is clear. It seems Mitt Romney has just met two corporations that are not people. They are much bigger than people. Even Mitt Romney will not be allowed to lie about big corporations.

GM and Chrysler didn’t deserve to be dragged into Romney’s mud, but then neither did union members, women, the gay community, single mothers, veterans, people on Social Security, Britain, and the rest of the global community he’s taken aim at in despicable acts of stupidity and desperation. It’s one thing to have an ideological position and another to tell egregious, harmful lies about the other in order to get votes and money.

Okay...maybe it's not 100% positive, but people are paying attention to what he's actually saying...so that's good, right? Right? Bueller?

515 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:59:30am

May have to run...

516 Lidanghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:59:38am
517 kirghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 9:59:59am

re: #509 Decatur Deb

It never occurred to him that we 'current retirees' might be concerned with someone other than ourselves. (Social security is a very small part of my retirement.)

On the other hand it is 95% of my father's retirement. Just for point of reference.

518 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:00:07am

re: #512 Sionainn

Egads. These people need some serious meds and hospitalization.

Robert Jeffress

He supported Rick Perry in the republican presidential primaries for the 2012 presidential nomination. On October 7, 2011 he caused national controversy while introducing Perry at the Values Voter Summit by indicating that Mitt Romney was opposed to Christianity because of Mormonism is thought to be in contradiction to the teachings of Jesus Christ by some. He had previously made statement to this effect in the 2008 presidential primaries.

Cockpunch.

519 Lidanghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:00:32am
520 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:00:36am

Folks, Gus posted sarcastically that:

Yeah. I'm pretty sure the "greatest generation" would like to see their Social Security privatized. Yep.

I felt it worth reminding everyone that both the Romney/Ryan and Obama/Biden campaigns have clearly and consistently stated that such a thing will not happen. Thus it is not something to be worried about.

521 jaunte  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:00:59am

re: #498 Gus

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It's getting so tough to be a purist these days.

522 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:02:08am

Some progress on clearing flooding in MTA tunnels. 3 of 7 pumped out. Limited service in outer boroughs and unaffected areas to resume tomorrow. Lower Manhattan will still be out of commission though.

523 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:03:03am

President Obama has touched down at AC Intl Airport.

524 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:03:49am

Hey all,

East Coast Lizards OK?

How is everyone else?

525 Sionainn  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:04:00am

re: #515 lawhawk

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May have to run...

Hope all is well with your mom and the other residents.

526 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:04:32am

re: #524 Gretchen G.Tiger

Hey all,

East Coast Lizards OK?

How is everyone else?

It's cold.
Which is nice.

527 kirghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:05:10am

re: #520 Dark_Falcon

Folks, Gus posted sarcastically that:

I felt it worth reminding everyone that both the Romney/Ryan and Obama/Biden campaigns have clearly and consistently stated that such a thing will not happen. Thus it is not something to be worried about.

Apparently you're not listening to Ryan.

528 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:05:13am

re: #517 kirkspencer

On the other hand it is 95% of my father's retirement. Just for point of reference.

I'm 'old' civil service. Our work didn't accumulate SSA credit, so it just about pays for our gasoline. I don't want to see everybody else get screwed.

529 efuseakay  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:05:17am

re: #520 Dark_Falcon

Folks, Gus posted sarcastically that:

I felt it worth reminding everyone that both the Romney/Ryan and Obama/Biden campaigns have clearly and consistently stated that such a thing will not happen. Thus it is not something to be worried about.

Give R/R some time. They will come around.

530 efuseakay  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:05:43am

re: #515 lawhawk

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May have to run...

PLEASE keep us updated as best you can...

531 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:06:20am

{{{{Lawhawk's Mommy}}}}}}

532 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:06:29am

re: #527 kirkspencer

Apparently you're not listening to Ryan.

The people in question are all over 55, thus their program would not be altered.

533 Interesting Times in Benghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:06:30am

re: #493 blueraven

Image: obama_romney_cartoon_new_york_post.jpg

Everyone look at the image above, and then look at this:

Image: A56ocaJCMAEaJ8q.jpg

That "cartoonist" needs a cock-punch.

534 makeitstopghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:07:02am

re: #515 lawhawk

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May have to run...

Oh, man. Good luck.

535 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:07:20am

re: #532 Dark_Falcon

The people in question are all over 55, thus their program would not be altered.

Good thing no one is under 55.
;)

536 makeitstopghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:07:59am

re: #532 Dark_Falcon

The people in question are all over 55, thus their program would not be altered.

Fucking parsing. SMMFH

537 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:08:48am

East Coast helicopter tour. Live.

[Link: www.ustream.tv...]

538 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:08:53am

re: #533 Interesting Times

Everyone look at that, and then look at this:

Image: A56ocaJCMAEaJ8q.jpg

That "cartoonist" needs a cock-punch.

I'd just settle for him getting a long hostile explanation as to why he should not popularize that kind of violent image, but if you want the person giving that explanation to throw in a cock-punch I will have no objection.

539 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:10:05am

re: #533 Interesting Times

Everyone look at that, and then look at this:

Image: A56ocaJCMAEaJ8q.jpg

That "cartoonist" needs a cock-punch.

That picture sent shivers down my spine as I was contemplating making a t-shirt for women that says "I am a Human Being"

540 Charles Johnson  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:10:11am

re: #520 Dark_Falcon

Folks, Gus posted sarcastically that:

I felt it worth reminding everyone that both the Romney/Ryan and Obama/Biden campaigns have clearly and consistently stated that such a thing will not happen. Thus it is not something to be worried about.

Right - because Romney always tells the truth.

/yes, I'm being sarcastic

541 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:10:33am

re: #536 makeitstop

Fucking parsing. SMMFH

I gave a specific answer to a specific point, which is what I do. My words are written narrowly, and I try for clarity and minimal subtext.

542 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:10:53am

GM is building starships in China.

543 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:11:45am

re: #542 Varek Raith

GM is building starships in China.

Wow. They're doing bold new things with the Jeep brand.

544 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:11:51am

bbl

545 erik_t  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:11:56am

re: #541 Dark_Falcon

I gave a specific answer to a specific point, which is what I do. My words are written narrowly, and I try for clarity and minimal subtext.

Avoiding nuance and greater meaning at all costs? Sounds like you're angling for a job with Politifact.

546 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:12:53am

re: #543 The Ghost of a Flea

Wow. They're doing bold new things with the Jeep brand.

Jeep is a Chrysler brand.

547 Joanne  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:13:45am

re: #500 Dark_Falcon

No, Paul Ryan has made very clear from the get-go that the benefits plan for current retirees will not be changed in form. On that, he has been consistent for years.

Except that is a lie. As soon as they repeal (and neglect to replace) Obamacare, seniors will be put back into the donut hole. They will also lose preventative care. Ryan is a liar. Period.

548 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:14:05am

re: #542 Varek Raith

GM is building starships in China.

Yes but we have about as many starships as we did back in 1917.

Romney hates jobs being outsourced to China. Did you know that?

//

549 Joanne  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:14:39am

re: #506 MittDoesNotCompute

In times like this, in the aftermath of Sandy, people need men (and women) of action: President Obama and Gov. Christie can pull it off, Mitt can't.

Yeah, a photo op won't get anything done. See Katrina.

550 Kragarghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:16:00am

'The bro and his ho' bumper sticker left at Democratic headquarters

A derogatory bumper sticker placed on the window of the Democratic headquarters in Sumner County shall remain right where it is as a symbol, so says the vice chairman of the Sumner County Democratic Party, Maria Brewer.

The bumper sticker was discovered by campaign workers on Monday and reads, "The bro and his ho gotta go."

Gallatin police are investigating although they have no suspects. Officers have also stepped up patrols in the area.

"I saw it and I thought it was offensive," Brewer told Nashville's News 2 Investigates. "It is a racial slur about the president and his wife, especially disturbing. I don't think politicians should have to worry about their families being attacked, especially for the color of their skin."

She added, "It's a slur against women as well as African Americans."

551 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:16:47am
552 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:17:31am

re: #545 erik_t

Avoiding nuance and greater meaning at all costs? Sounds like you're angling for a job with Politifact.

It's a practice of long standing, since long before I was on LGF. I don't do nuance well at all, and it does not suit my literal personality. So I avoid it.

553 makeitstopghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:17:47am

re: #541 Dark_Falcon

I gave a specific answer to a specific point, which is what I do. My words are written narrowly, and I try for clarity and minimal subtext.

In other words, you're being every bit as disingenuous as your candidate. Congrats.

554 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:18:41am

Obama has deplaned...

[Link: www.ustream.tv...]

555 Joanne  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:18:55am

re: #532 Dark_Falcon

Sorry, starving the best endangers it for all.

556 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:19:46am

Slight delay here. Already on Marine 1.

557 Kragarghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:19:48am

Romney Campaign Staged Donations At Storm Relief Event

Empty-handed supporters pled for entrance, with one woman asking, “What if we dropped off our donations up front?”

The volunteer gestured toward a pile of groceries conveniently stacked near the candidate. “Just grab something,” he said.

Two teenage boys retrieved a jar of peanut butter each, and got in line. When it was their turn, they handed their “donations” to Romney. He took them, smiled, and offered an earnest “Thank you.”

SCUM!

558 efuseakay  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:21:31am

re: #532 Dark_Falcon

The people in question are all over 55, thus their program would not be altered.

Maybe they actually care about their children... and grand children.

559 erik_t  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:22:01am

re: #557 Kragar

Romney Campaign Staged Donations At Storm Relief Event

SCUM!

As long as Romney pretends to care what the little people think, they'll pretend to like him.

560 Alouenghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:23:06am
561 Joanne  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:25:49am

re: #558 efuseakay

Maybe they actually care about their children... and grand children.

How very un-republican!

562 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:26:19am

re: #557 Kragar

Romney Campaign Staged Donations At Storm Relief Event

SCUM!

563 sagehen  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:26:49am

re: #394 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Totally OT, but I just learned my niece has landed an internship at a place in midtown Manhattan (42nd St. near the Library & Bryant Park), starting in January. We know nothing of the city. Can anyone help with suggestions as to where she should look for housing? Ideally it would be affordable, convenient and in a safe neighborhood, but I'm guessing we may not be able to get all three of these. Ideas?

Assuming hurricane repair is quick enough -- Hoboken is right across the river, with PATH train convenience (the commute to midtown is shorter and easier than from the Bronx). Cheaper than Manhattan, riverside has city view...

Or Staten Island, she can ride the ferry every morning and pretend she's Melanie Griffith in "Working Girl".

564 ghazidor  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:27:45am

re: #302 Sheila Broflovski

TEH DERP GOES ON AND ON

The President has until tomorrow at 12 noon to pick up $5M for his favorite charity. Looking like he won't be doing it. What is he hiding?

Functional brain cells?

565 danarchy  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:28:49am

A little OT levity, because it's Halloween!

Guide to trading candy.

566 SpaceJesus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:29:15am

University of Cincinnati has a new poll for Ohio:

Obama +2 (was tied last time)


[Link: www.ipr.uc.edu...]

567 Kragarghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:29:46am

Lucasfilm, Disney News: Could 'Star Wars' Be Coming To TV?

As your brain tries to absorb the news of Disney's purchase of Lucasfilm, wrap your brain around this: George Lucas has been amassing scripts for a live-action TV project for several years.

It's far too early to say when a "Star Wars" TV show could be on our screens -- possibly on Disney-owned ABC -- but a drama set in that universe wouldn't have to start from scratch. Lucasfilm has dozens of scripts for the project already in the hopper.

"They are working with writers on scripts," a Lucasfilm representative told me for a 2010 story on "Star Wars" on TV. "They won't set a production date [for the show] until the scripts are done."

As I wrote then, "This isn't a project that George Lucas has gone out of his way to promote -- word has leaked out in dribs and drabs at various conventions and in a few interviews … But work on the unnamed show's scripts appears to be at an advanced stage -- which isn't surprising, considering the writing of the live-action show began" in 2008.

Two years ago, the Lucasfilm rep confirmed that casting had not yet begun (every so often, rumors of the project hit the Internet and get fans stirred into a frenzy). But here are a few things we do know about it:

568 allegro  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:30:20am

re: #562 Gus

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Liberals act shocked, SHOCKED! when u tell them that entities other than the federal gov't can do a good job of providing disaster relief.

Of course we do because, like TPers we think the Red Cross is a government organization and Medicare isn't.

///

569 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:32:51am

re: #568 allegro

Of course we do because, like TPers we think the Red Cross is a government organization and Medicare isn't.

///

Red Cross... founded by Clara Barton

Clara Barton (1821–1912) had a career as a teacher and federal bureaucrat when the American Civil War broke out. Barton liked teaching when she was younger. All of her older siblings became teachers. Her youngest sibling was 12 years of age, when Barton was born. Her brother David was always like a teacher to her. She taught her first class, at age 17. She also expanded her concept of soldier aid, traveling to Camp Parole, Maryland, to organize a program for locating men listed as missing in action. Through interviews with Federals returning from Southern prisons, she was often able to determine the status of some of the missing and notify families.[

After performing humanitarian work during and after the conflict, on advice of her doctors, in 1869, she went to Europe for a restful vacation. There, she saw and became involved in the work of the International Red Cross during the Franco-Prussian War, and determined to bring the organization home with her to America...

Teacher and "federal bureaucrat!" Wingnut rage!

570 Gus  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:33:42am

re: #569 Gus

Red Cross... founded by Clara Barton

Teacher and "federal bureaucrat!" Wingnut rage!

...

Although not formally a member of the Universalist Church of America, in a 1905 letter to the widow of Carl Norman Thrasher, she identified herself with her parents' church as a "Universalist”.

571 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:35:02am

re: #543 The Ghost of a Flea

Jeep. The Ultimate Off Road Vehicle.

572 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:36:21am

re: #369 Dark_Falcon

Doesn't have to be that way. Owing to Iraq and Afghanistan we've now got lots of people experienced with accounting for aid money. They should be contacted and brought in to oversee distribution of aid. Some waste in unavoidable, but e know know how to keep that waste down to a minimum.

Like keeping an eye on pallets of money that just disappear into the desert night?

573 Lidanghazi  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:46:46am

re: #520 Dark_Falcon

Thus it is not something to be worried about.

The Romney/Ryan vouchercare program = privatization. So yes, it matters.

574 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 10:59:59am

re: #500 Dark_Falcon

No, Paul Ryan has made very clear from the get-go that the benefits plan for current retirees will not be changed in form. On that, he has been consistent for years.

Because they can't afford to try and put it in place right off, it would kill their chances of reelection. It needs to be a done deal BEFORE people get on it and can see what a huge shit sandwich it is.

575 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 11:04:28am

re: #520 Dark_Falcon

Folks, Gus posted sarcastically that:

I felt it worth reminding everyone that both the Romney/Ryan and Obama/Biden campaigns have clearly and consistently stated that such a thing will not happen. Thus it is not something to be worried about.

Yes, and Bush the Lesser when first running for pres said on the campaign trail that we should not be "nation builders" but that didn't stop him from starting a war of aggression and nation building.

576 GunstarGreen  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 11:09:25am

re: #527 kirkspencer

Apparently you're not listening to Ryan.

You mustn't let reality get in the way of victory-by-technicality.

Romney/Ryan don't want to touch SocialSec for current benefit receivers -- that is, the people that are actually likely to vote based on SocialSec as an issue.

They just want to fuck the rest of us in the ass without so much as a reacharound. And they are counting (as they are tactically right to do, going by the data) on current benefit receivers to be their complicit accomplices in fucking the rest of us in the ass for their own benefit.

Fuck You, I Got Mine. The motto of the boomers.

See Also: Tea Party style "I'm a government employee and my wife is on Medicare, but fuck everyone else, down with the government -- as long as you don't affect us."

577 garhighway  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 11:37:07am

re: #523 lawhawk

President Obama has touched down at AC Intl Airport.

Heading for the slots!

578 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Wed, Oct 31, 2012 12:20:24pm

re: #524 Gretchen G.Tiger

Hey all,

East Coast Lizards OK?

How is everyone else?

Not doing bad at all. A few friends who got 3' of water in their house up near Raritan Bay are staying with me for a few days. Feline Overlord is displeased however since routine is disrupted and a 4-year-old is running about the apartment.

579 MPH  Thu, Nov 1, 2012 4:29:57am

Definitely not funny. Definitely not effective.

Showed it to my parents, who both voted early for Obama, and they thought it was a fake video created by republicans to make democrats look dumb.


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