A heckler at a Mitt Romney campaign event yelled the question, “What about climate? That’s what causes monster storms…”
And the crowd responded by booing loudly, then breaking into a sustained chant of, “USA! USA! USA! USA!”
Just the latest appalling example of why I ran away from the Republican Party as fast as I could.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Nov 2, 2012 7:41:10pm |
This is the same mentality that spawned the Spanish Inquisition.
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Gus Fri, Nov 2, 2012 7:41:15pm |
Mitt Romney. Leader of the anti-intellectual Republican Party. Leader of anti-intellectual America.
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jamesfirecat Fri, Nov 2, 2012 7:42:54pm |
re: #1 Charles Johnson
This is the same mentality that spawned the Spanish Inquisition.
Which nobody expects to go unmemed upon.
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 2, 2012 7:43:47pm |
Fox News and the rest of the right-wing punditry have poisoned this country.
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 2, 2012 7:44:33pm |
Well, they can go scream "USA! USA!" at approaching storms while the rest of us take shelter.
/Idiots.
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Only The Lurker Knows Fri, Nov 2, 2012 7:47:55pm |
"Just the latest appalling example of why I ran away from the Republican Party as fast as I could."
Well at least you saw it coming. Me? I was so gobsmacked by the idiocy, that by the time I turned around, they were not only 3 blocks away, they had already made a hard right turn and were out of sight.
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 2, 2012 7:48:45pm |
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jamesfirecat Fri, Nov 2, 2012 7:49:13pm |
re: #7 Only The Lurker Knows
"Just the latest appalling example of why I ran away from the Republican Party as fast as I could."
Well at least you saw it coming. Me? I was so gobsmacked by the idiocy, that by the time I turned around, they were not only 3 blocks away, they had already made a hard right turn and were out of sight.
We can't stop here... this is fact country.
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The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea Fri, Nov 2, 2012 7:49:20pm |
Chanting "USA" was an excellent way to silent gay servicemen.
It stands to reason that it would work against hurricanes and other disastrous weather that is caused by gay people.
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Archangelus Fri, Nov 2, 2012 7:50:24pm |
Words fail me... no, scrap that, "oye vey" seems fitting here...
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William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Nov 2, 2012 7:53:15pm |
re: #1 Charles Johnson
This is the same mentality that spawned the Spanish Inquisition.
No, that was far more intellectual than this. Or at least had an intellectual pretense. This is more like those who jailed the dude in Holland for eating a "valuable" tulip bulb during the tulip bubble. Ignorance writ even larger than usual.
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Kragar Fri, Nov 2, 2012 7:53:56pm |
Because you really are more patriotic when you completely ignore all scientific evidence about a major danger to the country and the world.
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dragonath Fri, Nov 2, 2012 7:54:30pm |
re: #12 William Barnett-Lewis
No, that was far more intellectual than this. Or at least had an intellectual pretense. This is more like those who jailed the dude in Holland for eating a "valuable" tulip bulb during the tulip bubble. Ignorance writ even larger than usual.
DUTCH DUTCH DU...
Oh damn
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 2, 2012 7:56:17pm |
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Kragar Fri, Nov 2, 2012 7:57:16pm |
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 2, 2012 7:59:26pm |
It's really bizarre watching Fox criticize government for being crappy at disaster relief that they don't want it to do in the first place.
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dragonath Fri, Nov 2, 2012 7:59:51pm |
Besides, everybody knows Tulip Mania was the fault of... THE MUSLIMS!!
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The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:03:21pm |
re: #1 Charles Johnson
This is the same mentality that spawned the Spanish Inquisition.
This is more Soviet. Like Lysenkoism. It's politically disloyal to entertain information...even facts...that contradict political doctrine.
And their economic planning is like Stakhanovism, but with "wealth creators" instead of proletarian workers somehow achieving superhuman efficiency....
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Gus Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:03:56pm |
Doctor: Joe, I'm sorry to inform you of this, but the lab reports have come back and you have stage V liver cancer.
Joe: USA! USA! USA!
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freetoken Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:05:46pm |
re: #21 The Ghost of a Flea
This USA!!USA!!USA!! kind of mindset is at the root of many problems we can dig up from history.
When all a group of people can do is chant their group slogan, in face of whatever challenge, then you know that they've reached the end of their ability to successfully deal with the challenge.
It's a very primitive reaction to a threat.
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freetoken Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:06:26pm |
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Only The Lurker Knows Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:09:34pm |
Romney. You know, this is an election of great consequence and I think you understand that.
No you fucking moron, they don't. And you will be more than happy (with your shit eating grin) to keep them believing that.
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ghazidor Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:09:34pm |
Note that if you say that Sandy was partially due to changing weather patterns caused by Anthropogenic Global Warming, you are labeled as part of the "scientific conspiracy" and a fear mongering Leftist Loony.
But if you say that Sandy was a judgement sent by a righteous God to punish America for allowing Homosexuality, then you are considered to be a perfectly sane member of the evangelical Right.
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:09:39pm |
re: #24 freetoken
This USA!!USA!!USA!! kind of mindset is at the root of many problems we can dig up from history.
When all a group of people can do is chant their group slogan, in face of whatever challenge, then you know that they've reached the end of their ability to successfully deal with the challenge.
It's a very primitive reaction to a threat.
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:10:44pm |
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:11:27pm |
re: #28 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Note that if you say that Sandy was partially due to changing weather patterns caused by Anthropogenic Global Warming, you are labeled as part of the "scientific conspiracy" and a fear mongering Leftist Loony.
But if you say that Sandy was a judgement sent by a righteous God to punish America for allowing Homosexuality, then you are considered to be a perfectly sane member of the evangelical Right.
You're using words I recognize, but I can't quite make sense of them when they're strung together like that.
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b_snark Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:16:27pm |
Anybody know where I can buy a small, slightly used planet still in good condition? I think this one is on its last spin.
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:16:37pm |
Ben Kingsley never looked so awesome.
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:17:08pm |
re: #34 b_sharp
Anybody know where I can buy a small, slightly used planet still in good condition? I think this one is on its last spin.
Mars only has a little bit of our junk on it.
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Gus Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:17:09pm |
re: #34 b_sharp
Anybody know where I can buy a small, slightly used planet still in good condition? I think this one is on its last spin.
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Targetpractice Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:18:13pm |
Days like these, I really do find myself wondering if there will be anybody around a hundred years from now to remark about how humanity responded to the dire situation that was climate change with willful ignorance and chants of "USA! USA! USA!"
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freetoken Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:19:02pm |
re: #34 b_sharp
Anybody know where I can buy a small, slightly used planet still in good condition? I think this one is on its last spin.
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Only The Lurker Knows Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:19:31pm |
re: #30 Mocking Jay
10,000 dollar bet that they don't get the joke?
Nope, not going to take you up on that. All they will see is the tech and the awesome explosions and go AMERICA! FUCK YA!. It's all their simple little minds can comprehend/
1/2 sarc
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b_snark Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:20:08pm |
re: #36 Mocking Jay
Mars only has a little bit of our junk on it.
I'm looking for something more compact, and a little farther out. Something with a view.
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Kragar Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:20:16pm |
Anyone else having problems with Youtube? Seems like most of the time I try to play a video there, the video doesn't load. If I paste link here, it plays with no problem.
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:22:10pm |
re: #43 Kragar
Anyone else having problems with Youtube? Seems like most of the time I try to play a video there, the video doesn't load. If I paste link here, it plays with no problem.
I've been having trouble with videos loading 3/4 of the way and then just stopping when I got to that end. I thought it might be some sort of divine computer judgment against me for switching to Windows 8...
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KiTA Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:23:42pm |
How does "Climate Change" equate to "USA USA USA"?
I mean, the two aren't even... I mean... in what psychopathic universe does "USA" = "Mess up the Climate?"
I guess maybe "USA" = "Do whatever we want, screw the rest of the the world" in Wingnuttia?
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Targetpractice Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:24:41pm |
re: #43 Kragar
Anyone else having problems with Youtube? Seems like most of the time I try to play a video there, the video doesn't load. If I paste link here, it plays with no problem.
I'm getting the same problems as you and Jay. Using Firefox?
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:25:11pm |
re: #45 KiTA
How does "Climate Change" equate to "USA USA USA"?
I mean, the two aren't even... I mean... in what psychopathic universe does "USA" = "Mess up the Climate?"
I guess maybe "USA" = "Do whatever we want, screw the rest of the the world" in Wingnuttia?
No, it means "Shut up because fuck you that's why!"
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:25:29pm |
re: #46 Targetpractice
I'm getting the same problems as you and Jay. Using Firefox?
Nah, I'm a Chrome devotee.
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Targetpractice Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:25:55pm |
re: #48 Mocking Jay
Nah, I'm a Chrome devotee.
Well, then that throws that theory out. I know Firefox updated the other day and figured that might have something to do with it.
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Gus Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:26:01pm |
re: #47 Mocking Jay
No, it means "Shut up because fuck you that's why!"
Yep. You can't argue against patriotism. Allegedly.
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jaunte Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:26:10pm |
The League of Conservation Voters reviewed interviews held in 2007 by Tim Russert, Wolf Blitzer, George Stephanopoulos, Chris Wallace and Bob Schieffer, and found that out of 2,679 questions asked by the reporters, only three questions mentioned global warming. These elite reporters have taken the precious time they have with the candidates to ask more questions about UFOs, baseball, and Chuck Norris than about the candidates' plans to deal with climate change, one of the defining issues of our time.
[Link: www.treehugger.com...]
Global warming doesn't exist, Chuck Norris was just cold so he turned up the sun.
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Kragar Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:26:11pm |
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b_snark Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:26:13pm |
re: #19 Batman
Chanting "USA!" is like the anti-"Free Bird!"
Angry bird! Angry bird! Angry bird! Angry bird!
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:26:15pm |
re: #47 Mocking Jay
No, it means "Shut up because fuck you that's why!"
It's also quite similar to sticking your fingers in your ears and going "Lalalalalalalalalalalalalalala I can't hear you! Lalalalalalalalala!"
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efuseakay Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:26:34pm |
re: #42 b_sharp
I'm looking for something more compact, and a little farther out. Something with a view.
Pluto. It was declassified as a planet, so your taxes will be lots lower than that miserable Earth place.
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dragonath Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:27:12pm |
re: #35 Mocking Jay
Ben Kingsley never looked so awesome.
I thought he looked pretty good in Gandhi II...
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Targetpractice Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:28:36pm |
re: #45 KiTA
How does "Climate Change" equate to "USA USA USA"?
I mean, the two aren't even... I mean... in what psychopathic universe does "USA" = "Mess up the Climate?"
I guess maybe "USA" = "Do whatever we want, screw the rest of the the world" in Wingnuttia?
The deniers spent the better part of the last decade making the "argument" that anybody saying that climate change must be addressed is calling on America to devolve into a third world nation. It's tantamount to those who met CAFE with chants that it's their "right" to own a big honking land yacht that gets single digit fuel mileage.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:28:59pm |
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:29:04pm |
re: #45 KiTA
How does "Climate Change" equate to "USA USA USA"?
I mean, the two aren't even... I mean... in what psychopathic universe does "USA" = "Mess up the Climate?"
I guess maybe "USA" = "Do whatever we want, screw the rest of the the world" in Wingnuttia?
"The American way of life is not negotiable." - G.H.W. Bush, at the 1992 Earth Summit.
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Joanne Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:29:29pm |
re: #44 Mocking Jay
I've been having trouble with videos loading 3/4 of the way and then just stopping when I got to that end. I thought it might be some sort of divine computer judgment against me for switching to Windows 8...
I thought it was an iPhone thing!
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Digital Display Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:30:18pm |
This is the thread to bring up climate change...
A few weeks ago was watching NatGeo in bed..It was all about the great barrier reef. I love to watch nature stuff.
Well now.. The water has been getting warmer since the 80's and the reef is bleaching white and dying over large areas. To fly over miles and miles of white and dead reefs was disturbing to see. Scientists proved it was rising water temps. I didn't post anything a few weeks about that show cause it would have been to emotional.
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Targetpractice Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:30:39pm |
re: #62 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne
"The American way of life is not negotiable." - G.H.W. Bush, at the 1992 Earth Summit.
"American Way of Life" seems to be like "Manifest Destiny," this idea that Americans are entitled to a lifestyle that's as wasteful as possible, because we've "earned" it.
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philosophus invidius Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:31:21pm |
Obama has an 82.66543% chance of winning the Electoral College in tonight's forecast. fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com— Nate Silver (@fivethirtyeight) November 3, 2012
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Gus Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:31:23pm |
WaPo Editorial Board: Mitt Romney's campaign insults voters; his sole consistency is contempt for electorate. wapo.st/UqjKXG— Khoi Vinh (@khoi) November 3, 2012
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:32:00pm |
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dragonath Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:32:51pm |
re: #62 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne
"The American way of life is not negotiable." - G.H.W. Bush, at the 1992 Earth Summit.
You don't shit where you eat, George.
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Lidane Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:34:47pm |
re: #13 Kragar
Because you really are more patriotic when you completely ignore all scientific evidence about a major danger to the country and the world.
American Exceptionalism!
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Targetpractice Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:35:05pm |
re: #69 Mocking Jay
Or as Dick Morris would put it, a Romney landslide!
All is not well in Morrisville, where he's had to admit that things don't look all that good.
I think even he's beginning to hedge his bets. If things in the polls don't improve before Monday, look for a lot of talk from conservative pundits about how Romney "might" lose.
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Gus Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:35:20pm |
@khoi USA! USA! USA! #Sarcasm— Gus (@Gus_802) November 3, 2012
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Only The Lurker Knows Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:35:21pm |
Night Lizards.
May the Deity of Your Choice Smile Down Upon You and Yours.
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:37:30pm |
re: #72 Targetpractice
All is not well in Morrisville, where he's had to admit that things don't look all that good.
I think even he's beginning to hedge his bets. If things in the polls don't improve before Monday, look for a lot of talk from conservative pundits about how Romney "might" lose.
Yeah, I just read that. Whatever. A moron propped up by other morons.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:38:21pm |
re: #45 KiTA
How does "Climate Change" equate to "USA USA USA"?
I mean, the two aren't even... I mean... in what psychopathic universe does "USA" = "Mess up the Climate?"
I guess maybe "USA" = "Do whatever we want, screw the rest of the the world" in Wingnuttia?
I don't quite know. I mean, I actually get what this man is doing.
[Link: imgur.com...]
But when you don't have a tornado barreling down on you...
I get shouting "USA, USA" before going and beating the crap out of whatever is threatening the USA. What I don't get is substituting shouting it for actually admitting there's a problem.
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Lidane Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:40:42pm |
re: #45 KiTA
How does "Climate Change" equate to "USA USA USA"?
Because Obama, that's why. Also, Al Gore and SOROS and science.
Also, fuck you hippie. Why do you hate America?
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Targetpractice Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:41:01pm |
re: #75 Mocking Jay
Yeah, I just read that. Whatever. A moron propped up by other morons.
You know how it goes, Morris will spend the next three days going from "Romney landslide!" to "Modest victory" and finally to "Slim chance." That way, when Willard craps out, he can shrug his shoulders and say that things looked good until they went downhill.
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dragonath Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:43:31pm |
What is it with Al Gore? Even Clint Eastwood uttered those words and the crowd went nuts.
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Gus Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:44:46pm |
re: #79 dragonath
What is it with Al Gore? Even Clint Eastwood uttered those words and the crowd went nuts.
Oh hell you remember how some of the banned used to be about him. It's like the Niagara Falls of wingnuts. He and Jimmy Carter.
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Stanghazi Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:45:29pm |
watching the benefit concert on the tv. am i on re-run or live?
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:45:54pm |
re: #80 Gus
Oh hell you remember how some of the banned used to be about him. It's like the Niagara Falls of wingnuts. He and Jimmy Carter.
It was Kerry that TFK would lose it about.
Fucking TFK. All this time, and he could write perfectly normally.
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Gus Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:46:01pm |
re: #81 Page 3 in the Binder of Women
watching the benefit concert on the tv. am i on re-run or live?
Rerun.
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Lidane Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:46:26pm |
re: #79 dragonath
What is it with Al Gore? Even Clint Eastwood uttered those words and the crowd went nuts.
Admitting the truth of climate change would mean admitting that Al Gore is right and that he's been right for decades on the issue.
For these wingnut morans, that's like admitting that America isn't the center of the universe.
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:46:28pm |
re: #81 Page 3 in the Binder of Women
watching the benefit concert on the tv. am i on re-run or live?
It aired at 8 EDT.
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Gus Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:47:00pm |
re: #83 SanFranciscoZionist
It was Kerry that TFK would lose it about.
Fucking TFK. All this time, and he could write perfectly normally.
Oh it was Kerry too but whenever Charles posted something about climate change the derp contingent would be into Al Gore by the 10th comment. Al Gore!
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freetoken Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:47:02pm |
re: #79 dragonath
Words are magickal. You can use them to summon magickal powers. "Al Gore" is an ancient curse from the Egyptian language, based on the Western chief deity "El".
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Targetpractice Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:48:15pm |
re: #88 freetoken
Words are magickal. You can use them to summon magickal powers. "Al Gore" is an ancient curse from the Egyptian language, based on the Western chief deity "El".
There is power in names.
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dragonath Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:48:47pm |
Ya know, given an investment... I repeat, an investment, the American way of life can be just as strong with alternative energy.
Dopes chanting in the video probably think Obama is gonna institute the Amero even though oil is a global commodity.
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freetoken Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:49:30pm |
Here's an article from yesterday worth mentioning:
Evolutionary Biologist on Romney’s Appeal to Women: ‘Look, the F—er’s Rich’
Scientific American contacted the evolutionary biologist whose research was used by National Review deputy managing editor Kevin Williamson to argue that Mitt Romney’s demonstrated ability to produce male offspring should, from an evolutionary perspective, earn him “100 percent of the female vote,” including Michelle Obama’s. His response?
“HAHAHAHAHA!”
Robert Trivers’s 1973 paper said that high status red deer, among other animals, tended to produce more male offspring, which Williamson marshaled as evidence that Mitt Romney, with his five sons and many grandsons, is “basically a tribal chieftain,” while Barack Obama, with his two daughters, might as well be given a “cardigan” and “fallopian tubes.” In addition to criticizing Williamson’s application of his research, Trivers points out that when women vote, they are selecting a president, not a mate.
[...]
What?! You mean National Racists Online are misapplying scientific discoveries? Who would have thought?
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:50:54pm |
re: #90 dragonath
Ya know, given an investment... I repeat, an investment the American way of life can be just as strong with alternative energy.
Dopes chanting in the video probably think Obama is gonna institute the Amero even though oil is a global commodity.
I thought Bush was supposed to institute the amero. Why can't these guys ever get shit done?
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jaunte Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:51:17pm |
re: #88 freetoken
Words are magickal. You can use them to summon magickal powers. "Al Gore" is an ancient curse from the Egyptian language, based on the Western chief deity "El".
Al Gore, bo-bore
Banana-fana fo-fore
Mee-Mi-mo-more
El Gore!
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Gus Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:51:31pm |
re: #92 Page 3 in the Binder of Women
LOL i knew it! who's the last performer? So i know when to bail?
I don't know. I started watching a bunch of sci-fi clips. :)
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ghazidor Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:51:52pm |
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Gus Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:52:13pm |
re: #92 Page 3 in the Binder of Women
LOL i knew it! who's the last performer? So i know when to bail?
Great gallery here including those of what's going on with Sandy.
[Link: msnbc.msn.com...]
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freetoken Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:52:40pm |
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:53:07pm |
re: #92 Page 3 in the Binder of Women
LOL i knew it! who's the last performer? So i know when to bail?
I think Springsteen ended it.
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:53:23pm |
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Gus Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:53:37pm |
Accepting climate change doesn't mean you have to enroll into some Al Gore fan club either. Gore gets a lot of criticism from scientists.
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Targetpractice Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:54:14pm |
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dragonath Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:54:37pm |
Hello, this is the Antichrist speaking!
William Jefferson Delano Hussein Carter al-Gore!
How may I help you?
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Ben G. Hazi Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:54:45pm |
re: #24 freetoken
This USA!!USA!!USA!! kind of mindset is at the root of many problems we can dig up from history.
When all a group of people can do is chant their group slogan, in face of whatever challenge, then you know that they've reached the end of their ability to successfully deal with the challenge.
It's a very primitive reaction to a threat.
Yeah, we've seen what happens when a populace sets aside its conscience, its sense of right and wrong, and the social contract...it was called Nazi Germany.
/yeah, I Godwinned it...
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Gus Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:56:22pm |
re: #97 Gus
Great gallery here including those of what's going on with Sandy.
[Link: msnbc.msn.com...]
If you click on Billy Joel here you'll get the large images.
[Link: entertainment.nbcnews.com...]
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makeitstopghazi Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:56:50pm |
OT: Thanks to the NY Knicks for opening their NBA season by beating the Miami Heat by 20 tonight. A little reason to smile after a very difficult week.
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ghazidor Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:57:04pm |
re: #72 Targetpractice
All is not well in Morrisville, where he's had to admit that things don't look all that good.
I think even he's beginning to hedge his bets. If things in the polls don't improve before Monday, look for a lot of talk from conservative pundits about how Romney "might" lose.
I loved this comment...
LeftThePubsDuetaPalin Schaedenfreude • 6 hours ago
"I originally predicted Custer to win at Little Big Horn, but it would appear that a lot of Indians are now appearing. That is troublesome."
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freetoken Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:57:44pm |
re: #104 MittDoesNotCompute
Yeah, we've seen what happens when a populace sets aside its conscience, its sense of right and wrong, and the social contract...it was called Nazi Germany.
/yeah, I Godwinned it...
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b_snark Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:57:50pm |
re: #101 Gus
Accepting climate changes doesn't mean you have to enroll into some Al Gore fan club either. Gore gets a lot of criticism from scientists.
All Gore is completely irrelevant to the science. He's just the messenger.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:58:12pm |
re: #91 freetoken
Here's an article from yesterday worth mentioning:
Evolutionary Biologist on Romney’s Appeal to Women: ‘Look, the F—er’s Rich’
Robert Trivers’s 1973 paper said that high status red deer, among other animals, tended to produce more male offspring, which Williamson marshaled as evidence that Mitt Romney, with his five sons and many grandsons, is “basically a tribal chieftain,” while Barack Obama, with his two daughters, might as well be given a “cardigan” and “fallopian tubes.” In addition to criticizing Williamson’s application of his research, Trivers points out that when women vote, they are selecting a president, not a mate.
[...]
What?! You mean National Racists Online are misapplying scientific discoveries? Who would have thought?
Same principle that said that men would vote for Sarah Palin en masse because boobs.
I had a case study for my human sexuality class where we were presented with a couple who were coming for therapy. She'd cheated, he was mad, no more information than that. We were asked to theorize what might be going on, based on the information about animal sexuality from the book.
My hypothesis was that there had been a power upheaval at Jane's work, and that she was now having sex with the new head of the IT department so that he would think her children were his, and not eat them.
Mysteriously, this seemed to not be what the professor was looking for. WTF? It's what lions do. Said so, right in the book.
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dragonath Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:58:46pm |
re: #105 Gus
Springsteen is so Boss the Last Boss theme in Contra: Hard Corps was called Last Springsteen. That's Boss.
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Gus Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:58:52pm |
re: #111 b_sharp
All Gore is completely irrelevant to the science. He's just the messenger.
One messenger.
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Ben G. Hazi Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:59:09pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:00:33pm |
re: #101 Gus
Accepting climate changes doesn't mean you have to enroll into some Al Gore fan club either. Gore gets a lot of criticism from scientists.
Nonsense. To believe in climate change, you have to worship Al Gore. To believe in evolution, you have to accept Charles Darwin as a deity. Ideas do not exist separately from their authors or their popularizers.
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jaunte Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:00:38pm |
re: #91 freetoken
"Maybe the guy should be saying that all women should try to f— Romney. Look, the f—er's rich. Can you f— him and get some of the money? Or are you just voting for him? They're two different decisions."
Nuance!
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:01:04pm |
re: #103 dragonath
Hello, this is the Antichrist speaking!
William Jefferson Delano Hussein Carter al-Gore!
How may I help you?
Is that you, Nicolae Grand Tetons?
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Gus Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:02:07pm |
re: #116 SanFranciscoZionist
Nonsense. To believe in climate change, you have to worship Al Gore. To believe in evolution, you have to accept Charles Darwin as a deity. Ideas do not exist separately from their authors or their popularizers.
Yep. It's "not just for atheists." ;)
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:02:21pm |
I am sometimes amazed at the right-wing ability to reject reality and substitute their own.
[Link: unskewedpolls.com...]
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Lidane Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:03:26pm |
re: #101 Gus
Accepting climate changes doesn't mean you have to enroll into some Al Gore fan club either. Gore gets a lot of criticism from scientists.
To the wingnut morans that would chant "USA! USA! USA!" when someone even mentions climate change, the entire issue of climate change is embodied by Al Gore. Giving the issue any credence means giving Al credence and they refuse to do it.
It's like accepting evolution meaning accepting Darwin or Richard Dawkins or whoever. These imbeciles can't separate the person championing a cause from the science behind it.
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b_snark Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:04:40pm |
re: #121 Lidane
To the wingnut morans that would chant "USA! USA! USA!" when someone even mentions climate change, the entire issue of climate change is embodied by Al Gore. Giving the issue any credence means giving Al credence and they refuse to do it.
It's like accepting evolution meaning accepting Darwin or Richard Dawkins or whoever. These imbeciles can't separate the person championing a cause from the science behind it.
Ain't that the truth.
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:05:58pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:06:17pm |
re: #121 Lidane
To the wingnut morans that would chant "USA! USA! USA!" when someone even mentions climate change, the entire issue of climate change is embodied by Al Gore. Giving the issue any credence means giving Al credence and they refuse to do it.
It's like accepting evolution meaning accepting Darwin or Richard Dawkins or whoever. These imbeciles can't separate the person championing a cause from the science behind it.
I really don't see what the problem is with Darwin. From what I know of him, he seems to have been a nice man. A good father. Did he even have any politics, aside from being anti-slavery?
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Targetpractice Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:08:20pm |
re: #120 Mocking Jay
I am sometimes amazed at the right-wing ability to reject reality and substitute their own.
[Link: unskewedpolls.com...]
I see the dipshit has revised he estimate down. Now he's predicting Romney winning by only 311 EVs.
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jaunte Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:08:35pm |
re: #124 SanFranciscoZionist
He supported the Reform Act.
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dragonath Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:09:20pm |
re: #116 SanFranciscoZionist
Nonsense. To believe in climate change, you have to worship Al Gore.
That gave me a vision.
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austin_blue Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:10:14pm |
Interesting week wasn't it?
1) A monster of a tropical/post-tropical storm, over a thousand miles wide, dough-popped New Jersey and New York and killed over one hundred Americans.
2) Because the victims were mostly white, nobody at Faux News asked why they didn't leave.
3) Governor Chris Christie, knowing his State needed all the help it could get, praised the Obama Administration's response as "outstanding".
4) It was. California utility repair trucks and crews were loaded onto C-5s and C-17s and flown to New York and New Jersey to save 3 days of travel time. C-130s were loaded with food and water for distribution to needy citizens. The airlift capacity of the Air Force is fully involved in the response.
5) Rush Limbaugh accused Gov. Christie of being a traitor for praising Obama.
6) Job numbers on Friday revealed that since Obama took office, more people are working today than at the time of his inauguration.
7) The work force has increased, of course, but almost all of the job losses at this point are in the public sector.
8) Mittens says Obama is a failure.
9) 538.com says the election may be over by 9:00. If Obama takes Ohio and Virginia, Mittens is a toasty husk.
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Lidane Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:10:40pm |
re: #124 SanFranciscoZionist
I really don't see what the problem is with Darwin. From what I know of him, he seems to have been a nice man. A good father. Did he even have any politics, aside from being anti-slavery?
They're morons. There's no logic behind their hate of Darwin except for the fact that evolution puts the lie to a literal Genesis and a young Earth.
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Gus Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:11:43pm |
Mark O'Connor Stumps A Room Full Of Scientists About The Perfection Of T...: youtu.be/hHzPa0yFucs via @youtube— Mark O'Connor (@markoconnor35) November 2, 2012
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:12:04pm |
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Lidane Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:12:13pm |
re: #128 austin_blue
Interesting week wasn't it?
Just wait until next Tuesday night. If the polls hold and Obama wins a second term, a whole lot of heads are going to explode, starting with the hacks at Faux News.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:13:47pm |
re: #132 Lidane
Just wait until next Tuesday night. If the polls hold and Obama wins a second term, a whole lot of heads are going to explode, starting with the hacks at Faux News.
The whining will rise to heaven.
Of course, if the polls don't hold, and Romney pulls it off, I will be doing some whining of my own.
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Targetpractice Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:14:12pm |
re: #121 Lidane
To the wingnut morans that would chant "USA! USA! USA!" when someone even mentions climate change, the entire issue of climate change is embodied by Al Gore. Giving the issue any credence means giving Al credence and they refuse to do it.
It's like accepting evolution meaning accepting Darwin or Richard Dawkins or whoever. These imbeciles can't separate the person championing a cause from the science behind it.
Intellectual laziness at its best. It's like going after a person who suggests that climate change need be addressed by accusing them of "hypocrisy" for not living in a cave. Ironically it's practiced by those whose thinking isn't much past caveman level, namely "You on computer, computer need power, power provided by coal, you hypocrite!"
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:14:47pm |
re: #128 austin_blue
3) Governor Chris Christie, knowing his State needed all the help it could get, praised the Obama Administration's response as "outstanding".
4) It was. California utility repair trucks and crews were loaded onto C-5s and C-17s and flown to New York and New Jersey to save 3 days of travel time. C-130s were loaded with food and water for distribution to needy citizens. The airlift capacity of the Air Force is fully involved in the response.
You need to spend an hour watching Fox to find out how wrong you really are. The administration has totally botched this completely and we are all going to die over here.
Oh, and the gas shortages gave them an excuse to mention Carter without it seeming like a weird tangent.
Instead of watching Fox you could just stick a pencil in your leg and leave it there until the urge to do so goes away. Might be better off...
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Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:17:03pm |
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freetoken Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:18:02pm |
re: #130 Gus
We don't want to teach art in schools anymore.
Our current fetish is STEM, which in the end is interpreted as more people having MCSE seals of approval.
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jaunte Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:18:22pm |
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KronoGhazi Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:19:36pm |
re: #134 Targetpractice
Intellectual laziness at its best. It's like going after a person who suggests that climate change need be addressed by accusing them of "hypocrisy" for not living in a cave. Ironically it's practiced by those whose thinking isn't much past caveman level, namely "You on computer, computer need power, power provided by coal, you hypocrite!"
AMERICA! FUCK YEAH! USA USA USA!
I win, you lose Lieberal.
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Gus Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:21:38pm |
re: #138 jaunte
Mark O'Connor & Ruby Jane
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Amazing aye? She was 14 there. First I heard of her.
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ghazidor Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:23:08pm |
re: #125 Targetpractice
I see the dipshit has revised he estimate down. Now he's predicting Romney winning by only 311 EVs.
301 actually...still too high though.
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Gus Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:29:38pm |
NBC/WSJ/Marist Poll: Ohio: 35% have early voted and Pres. Obama leads Romney 62%-36%.— utaustinliberal (@utaustinliberal) November 3, 2012
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dragonath Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:32:36pm |
re: #143 Gus
Are polling firms polling those who already voted?
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Kragar Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:33:18pm |
Sandy and the Libya situation are freezing the action and giving Romney a significant boost, because no new story can develop. #Election2012— Dick Morris (@DickMorrisTweet) October 30, 2012
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Targetpractice Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:37:14pm |
re: #146 Kragar
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Which is why he's gone from a 2 point lead to dead even in Rasmussen's latest poll.
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ninja cat Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:37:33pm |
re: #146 Kragar
There is such a willfull disconnect there it comes out as some absurdist comedy routine.
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Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:37:40pm |
re: #146 Kragar
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I'm sorry, could you speak up? I can't hear you over all the flop-sweat.
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:38:12pm |
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Targetpractice Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:40:04pm |
And now, in the face of polls shifting towards Obama, the media's newest attempt to sustain the suspense: "Winner may not be known for days!"
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Lidane Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:43:34pm |
re: #152 Targetpractice
And now, in the face of polls shifting towards Obama, the media's newest attempt to sustain the suspense: "Winner may not be known for days!"
Are they still pushing the "269-269 EV split" scenario anywhere? That one was a hoot.
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Targetpractice Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:45:24pm |
re: #153 Lidane
Are they still pushing the "269-269 EV split" scenario anywhere? That one was a hoot.
Nah, this one seems to be the idea that the margins of victory in one or more swing states will be so close as to either trigger automatic recalls, force counting of provisional votes weeks after the election, or be close enough that one party or the other will demand a recount.
They're really, really hoping for a another '00 scenario, if for no other reason to sell a shitload of advertising.
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makeitstopghazi Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:46:36pm |
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Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:47:19pm |
re: #154 Targetpractice
This is your glorious media, ladies and gentlelizards. Cherish it.
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Targetpractice Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:48:02pm |
re: #156 Sophist, Gingham Style
This is your glorious media, ladies and gentlelizards. Cherish it.
Charlie Pierce, is that you?
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austin_blue Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:48:32pm |
re: #135 Mocking Jay
You need to spend an hour watching Fox to find out how wrong you really are. The administration has totally botched this completely and we are all going to die over here.
Oh, and the gas shortages gave them an excuse to mention Carter without it seeming like a weird tangent.
Instead of watching Fox you could just stick a pencil in your leg and leave it there until the urge to do so goes away. Might be better off...
I don't have cable, so I can't watch Faux or anything else that is not picked up by my HD antenna. It's kind of retro 1973, and I love it. 34 channels and something I want to look at is often on.
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Targetpractice Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:51:11pm |
I know some folks think it'll be called early Tuesday, but I really do expect to be awake at midnight or later, listening to Blitzer argue how things are still "too close to call."
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Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:53:47pm |
re: #159 Targetpractice
I know some folks think it'll be called early Tuesday, but I really do expect to be awake at midnight or later, listening to Blitzer argue how things are still "too close to call."
So you're a masochist then.
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:54:06pm |
re: #158 austin_blue
I don't have cable, so I can't watch Faux or anything else that is not picked up by my HD antenna. It's kind of retro 1973, and I love it. 34 channels and something I want to look at is often on.
Neanderthal.
//
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Targetpractice Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:55:40pm |
re: #160 Sophist, Gingham Style
So you're a masochist then.
I thought that was the short definition of "political junkie."
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austin_blue Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:57:00pm |
re: #159 Targetpractice
I know some folks think it'll be called early Tuesday, but I really do expect to be awake at midnight or later, listening to Blitzer argue how things are still "too close to call."
I don't think so. It's all Ohio, Virginia, and Florida. Unless something goofy happens, it'll be like 2008. If Mittens can't take Ohio, he is a gone pecan, and Obama has rebuilt his 2%+ lead since the Denver debate. It's a done deal.
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Mich-again Fri, Nov 2, 2012 9:57:19pm |
re: #159 Targetpractice
I know some folks think it'll be called early Tuesday, but I really do expect to be awake at midnight or later, listening to Blitzer argue how things are still "too close to call."
I will be flying from Monday afternoon until late Tuesday night so I will be missing out on all the hooplah.
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HappyBenghazi Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:01:12pm |
I wonder what it will take for them to accept that climate change is real.
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austin_blue Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:03:34pm |
re: #161 Mocking Jay
Neanderthal.
//
Please, I prefer the moniker of Orangutan. The Librarian at the Unseen University says "Ook".
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Targetpractice Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:05:09pm |
re: #164 austin_blue
I don't think so. It's all Ohio, Virginia, and Florida. Unless something goofy happens, it'll be like 2008. If Mittens can't take Ohio, he is a gone pecan, and Obama has rebuilt his 2%+ lead since the Denver debate. It's a done deal.
One of my guiding principles is "expect the best, but prepare for the worst." In this case, I'd like to believe that Obama will hold leads large enough in enough of the swing states that Willard contests them at his own peril. But I'm prepared to hear about how things are coming down to the wire and the margins are such that the Romney campaign is calling for recounts.
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HappyBenghazi Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:06:18pm |
I think I'm going to watch PBS's coverage if they're covering election night. I really don't like the sensationalist nature of the cable news.
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Robert O. Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:07:57pm |
re: #130 Gus
After all these years, I have yet to come across an instrument capable of producing more emotion or color as the violin.
A very small selection of my favorite recordings:
Example 1: Itzhak Perlman playing Bruch Violin Concerto No. 1, 3rd Movement
Or how about this one:
Example 2: Yehudi Menuhin playing Mendelssohn Violin Concerto, 2nd Movement
Or what about the sound of crushing sadness?
Example 3: Ginette Neveu plays Gluck Melodie
Or how about these other favorites?
Example 4: Josef Hassid plays Massenet's Meditation:
Finally, here's an example of how a violin, in the right hands, can yield magic even with a melody so stunningly simple:
Example 8: Fritz Kreisler plays Bach's Mineut:
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philosophus invidius Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:08:17pm |
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austin_blue Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:10:10pm |
re: #168 HappyWarrior
I wonder what it will take for them to accept that climate change is real.
A Democratic win. They can't ignore the elephant in the bathroom stall forever. When lots and lots of rich white folks get fucked by increasingly violent weather events, crowds with pitchforks and torches will be encouraged to attack the castle.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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Gus Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:10:13pm |
re: #172 HappyWarrior
I think I'm going to watch PBS's coverage if they're covering election night. I really don't like the sensationalist nature of the cable news.
Yeah, but this was good.
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Targetpractice Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:10:58pm |
re: #175 austin_blue
A Democratic win. They can't ignore the elephant in the bathroom stall forever. When lots and lots of rich white folks get fucked by increasingly violent weather events, crowds with pitchforks and torches will be encouraged to attack the castle.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Thing about that is that, by the time things have gotten so bad that the natives get restless, it will be a little late to do more than begin preparing for the worst.
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Gus Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:12:00pm |
@rushlimbaugh You're a fucking idiot. Brian Williams was right.— Gus (@Gus_802) November 3, 2012
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austin_blue Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:12:24pm |
re: #177 Targetpractice
Thing about that is that, by the time things have gotten so bad that the natives get restless, it will be a little late to do more than begin preparing for the worst.
Yup. That's a given.
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Gus Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:12:40pm |
re: #173 Robert O.
After all these years, I have yet to come across an instrument capable of producing more emotion or color as the violin.
A very small selection of my favorite recordings:
Example 1: Itzhak Perlman playing Bruch Violin Concerto No. 1, 3rd Movement
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Nice. The Perlman piece is enough. :)
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HappyBenghazi Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:15:33pm |
re: #177 Targetpractice
Thing about that is that, by the time things have gotten so bad that the natives get restless, it will be a little late to do more than begin preparing for the worst.
Yep. They need to get in reality now before things do get to that point. Instead they continue to act like Al Gore invented AGW.
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efuseakay Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:17:22pm |
I just wonder how many more Katrina/Sandies we need before they wake the fuck up and decide to do something to help. Sigh.
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ProGunLiberal Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:17:40pm |
I'm under the impression Ed Koch is anti Muslim. Am I correct?
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HappyBenghazi Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:19:51pm |
re: #182 efuseakay
I just wonder how many more Katrina/Sandies we need before they wake the fuck up and decide to do something to help. Sigh.
Right, how many major storms like this do we need before they wake the hell up. Of course, what will probably happen if they do wake up knowing them, they'll blame the left.
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ghazidor Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:21:47pm |
re: #168 HappyWarrior
I wonder what it will take for them to accept that climate change is real.
Because the predicted effects are so gradual in occurring they don't ever have to accept it, and many will not. Fifty years from now pointing out how different things "used to be" will be greeted with skepticism as historical revisionism by these folks. All the weather/temperature data from now and the recent past will be looked at as being modified/falsified by the "scientific AGW cabal."
We are already in the second generation of people raised as climate deniers and working on raising the third generation. It is going to take the inundation of the countries coastlines by rising sea levels before you get a significant amount of them to change their minds about AGW.
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HappyBenghazi Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:24:34pm |
re: #185 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Because the predicted effects are so gradual in occurring they don't ever have to accept it, and many will not. Fifty years from now pointing out how different things "used to be" will be greeted with skepticism as historical revisionism by these folks. All the weather/temperature data from now and the recent past will be looked at as being modified/falsified by the "scientific AGW cabal."
We are already in the second generation of people raised as climate deniers and working on raising the third generation. It is going to take the inundation of the countries coastlines by rising sea levels before you get a significant amount of them to change their minds about AGW.
I think you're right unfortunately.
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austin_blue Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:24:35pm |
re: #173 Robert O.
After all these years, I have yet to come across an instrument capable of producing more emotion or color as the violin.
A very small selection of my favorite recordings:
Example 1: Itzhak Perlman playing Bruch Violin Concerto No. 1, 3rd Movement
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The fiddle is an amazing instrument, but it's not necessarily the King of the Heap as far as bringing emotion to music. Check out a colleague of She Who Must Be Obeyed:
[Link: video.search.yahoo.com...]
It is an absolutely beautiful song.
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Gus Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:25:24pm |
re: #187 ProGunLiberal
I am correct, then?
I don't know. Some crazy old confused coot. Maybe he was confused. He was born in 1924.
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ProGunLiberal Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:27:03pm |
re: #190 Gus
See, I am much more cynical.
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GeneJockey Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:28:41pm |
re: #185 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Because it's gradual, there's time for the denialist position to evolve without neck-snapping reversal. It used to be 'There's no warming!', now with many, it's changed to 'It's warming, but it's natural, and it's stopped!'
In a few years, when we're a bit past the recent solar minimum and it really heats up, it'll be 'It's warming, but it's just the sun!"
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Digital Display Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:31:14pm |
re: #184 HappyWarrior
Right, how many major storms like this do we need before they wake the hell up. Of course, what will probably happen if they do wake up knowing them, they'll blame the left.
During this weather disaster there can be a bright spot. We can rebuilt infrastructure on the East. no more trees falling on power polls. Better drainage. That model can start being built across America that better brings safety and efficiency.
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HappyBenghazi Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:31:44pm |
You know, I just hope once Obama leaves office. He adopts a fairly universal cause because I'm sick of hearing climate change dismissed because people just don't like Al Gore.
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HappyBenghazi Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:32:36pm |
re: #193 Digital Display
During this weather disaster there can be a bright spot. We can rebuilt infrastructure on the East. no more trees falling on power polls. Better drainage. That model can start being built across America that better brings safety and efficiency.
Sounds good to me.
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Targetpractice Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:35:02pm |
re: #192 GeneJockey
Because it's gradual, there's time for the denialist position to evolve without neck-snapping reversal. It used to be 'There's no warming!', now with many, it's changed to 'It's warming, but it's natural, and it's stopped!'
In a few years, when we're a bit past the recent solar minimum and it really heats up, it'll be 'It's warming, but it's just the sun!"
One of my favorites is still "It's warming up on Mars!"
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Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:38:28pm |
re: #197 Targetpractice
One of my favorites is still "It's warming up on Mars!"
There's no warming and it's totally natural and it'll be beneficial anyway.
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Targetpractice Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:39:20pm |
re: #198 Sophist, Gingham Style
There's no warming and it's totally natural and it'll be beneficial anyway.
"Longer growing seasons!" Except for that drought which has cost farmers billions and will ensure higher food prices due to shortages.
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HappyBenghazi Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:41:01pm |
I used to in jest say global warming my ass when it would be one of those real cold winter days. Some people actually mean that. When Ryan first got picked at Mitt's running mate. Someone here linked to a 2009 story about Ryan saying it was hard to convince his constituents that global warming was real while it was snowing a ton in late February. It was pretty much that showed me that Paul Ryan despite their attempts to show him as an intellectual isn't that.
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HappyBenghazi Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:41:24pm |
re: #199 Targetpractice
"Longer growing seasons!" Except for that drought which has cost farmers billions and will ensure higher food prices due to shortages.
Can't we just pray for rain? //
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Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:41:46pm |
re: #199 Targetpractice
"Longer growing seasons!" Except for that drought which has cost farmers billions and will ensure higher food prices due to shortages.
Not to mention that when the region suitable for growing a given crop shifts north, the cropland and topsoil doesn't go with it.
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Targetpractice Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:43:05pm |
re: #202 Sophist, Gingham Style
Not to mention that when the region suitable for growing a given crop shifts north, the cropland and topsoil doesn't go with it.
Well, we'll just ship the top soil up there! And we can sell loads of fertilizer to fix the problem! JOBS!
///
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HappyBenghazi Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:43:59pm |
Just who do you think you are, Mr. Scientist.
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ghazidor Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:47:05pm |
re: #188 HappyWarrior
The future?...
Can you believe those idiots still trying to convince people of "global warming?" That one guy at the lecture was just crazy, saying it used to rain practically every day here in Seattle. Who would build a city where it rained all the time? Besides, just look around, anyone can see that this is desert country and always has been!
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lostlakehiker Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:55:37pm |
re: #194 HappyWarrior
You know, I just hope once Obama leaves office. He adopts a fairly universal cause because I'm sick of hearing climate change dismissed because people just don't like Al Gore.
I kind of don't like Al Gore. He's grown rich brokering green deals that his position in politics greases, he has a house with I don't know how big an energy bill, and he's a sore loser. All this is kind of beside the point, though. From what I've read, I wouldn't have liked Patton. Slaps people around, sore winner. We forgive those things if a man gets the big thing of his day right.
Gore got it right on the climate. But never mind if he's a good messenger. The messenger is not the message.
The message is the storm, the drought, the early Spring and the balmy Christmas day. The message is the glacier that's not there any more, and the tropical disease that can't have a foothold in Greece but now it does.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:56:29pm |
re: #183 ProGunLiberal
I'm under the impression Ed Koch is anti Muslim. Am I correct?
He's an Islamoparanoiac--not as bad as some of them, but it's pretty pronounced.
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HappyBenghazi Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:59:03pm |
re: #206 lostlakehiker
I kind of don't like Al Gore. He's grown rich brokering green deals that his position in politics greases, he has a house with I don't know how big an energy bill, and he's a sore loser. All this is kind of beside the point, though. From what I've read, I wouldn't have liked Patton. Slaps people around, sore winner. We forgive those things if a man gets the big thing of his day right.
Gore got it right on the climate. But never mind if he's a good messenger. The messenger is not the message.
The message is the storm, the drought, the early Spring and the balmy Christmas day. The message is the glacier that's not there any more, and the tropical disease that can't have a foothold in Greece but now it does.
Well you're not the kind of person I'm talking here. You can separate the message from the messenger. I think many deniers of AGW cannot.
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lostlakehiker Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:59:09pm |
re: #185 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Because the predicted effects are so gradual in occurring they don't ever have to accept it, and many will not. Fifty years from now pointing out how different things "used to be" will be greeted with skepticism as historical revisionism by these folks. All the weather/temperature data from now and the recent past will be looked at as being modified/falsified by the "scientific AGW cabal."
We are already in the second generation of people raised as climate deniers and working on raising the third generation. It is going to take the inundation of the countries coastlines by rising sea levels before you get a significant amount of them to change their minds about AGW.
These 100-year extreme events are very instructive. Especially when they roll around every 10 or 20 years. Insurance premiums could get to be pretty instructive too. Imagine if the federal government were to price flood insurance according to the risk?! The real risk, taking into account the science as well as past history?
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Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:59:55pm |
re: #205 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
The future?...
Hey, if you don't have plans for spring break, my uncle has a beachfront condo in Antarctica I can talk him into letting us use.
(p.s. How do you do that purple text thing again?)
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gwangung Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:59:56pm |
OT: From the King County, WA Elections web site:
It’s been reported that King County GOP is offering to collect and return voters’ ballots.
We recommend that voters return ballots to an official King County Elections ballot drop-off location or through the US Postal Service. Voters may use the online ballot tracker to confirm that King County has received their ballot.
Straw. Camel's back. PISSSSSSSED.
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austin_blue Fri, Nov 2, 2012 11:03:02pm |
re: #207 SanFranciscoZionist
He's an Islamoparanoiac--not as bad as some of them, but it's pretty pronounced.
I think that is a fair judgement from what I've read. Given his age and the hellish recent history in which he grew up, it's hardly surprising.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 2, 2012 11:09:59pm |
re: #212 austin_blue
I think that is a fair judgement from what I've read. Given his age and the hellish recent history in which he grew up, it's hardly surprising.
What hellish recent history did he grow up in? Aside from WWII?
I don't cut him much slack for it. He sounds like the rest of the nuts on this.
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Fri, Nov 2, 2012 11:10:02pm |
re: #206 lostlakehiker
I kind of don't like Al Gore. He's grown rich brokering green deals that his position in politics greases, he has a house with I don't know how big an energy bill, and he's a sore loser. All this is kind of beside the point, though. From what I've read, I wouldn't have liked Patton. Slaps people around, sore winner. We forgive those things if a man gets the big thing of his day right.
Gore got it right on the climate. But never mind if he's a good messenger. The messenger is not the message.
The message is the storm, the drought, the early Spring and the balmy Christmas day. The message is the glacier that's not there any more, and the tropical disease that can't have a foothold in Greece but now it does.
Ah. I see you bought the Republican framing. Don't forget that (a) it was by no means clear early on who had actually won, and (b) the Republicans were prepared to be every bit as sore, if not more so, if things had come out the other way around. It wasn't Gore who sent his minions to Florida to disrupt the vote counting.
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GeneJockey Fri, Nov 2, 2012 11:12:11pm |
re: #208 HappyWarrior
Well you're not the kind of person I'm talking here. You can separate the message from the messenger. I think many deniers of AGW cannot.
It comes from being authoritarians, I think. They see things through the lens of authority, and authorities, so they think the messenger is the message. Discredit Al Gore, or Darwin, or Dawkins, and you destroy the message.
The funny thing is, I know denialists who see right through Creationists' attempts to destroy the theory by attacking Darwin or Gould, or other prominent Evolutionists, yet they use exactly the same approach to attack AGW.
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Robert O. Fri, Nov 2, 2012 11:20:00pm |
re: #189 austin_blue
Different instruments are capable of producing different emotions - that is true. However, I think that the really big factor is the RANGE of sounds the instrument can produce. I say this as a classically trained pianist - I reached the level of fellowship of Trinity College London when I was at High School (I don't have much time to play any more). Now that I matured in my understanding of music, I regret never having learned the violin. Listening to the top masters playing the instrument, I find that of all the tricks performers use to create emotion & color, two of the most powerful are the portamento and the vibrato. These techniques are unavailable to me as a pianist (and unavailable to many other instruments) because they require the instrument be capable of producing a continuous spectrum of sound, whereas on the piano, flute, etc., you only have discrete notes (frequencies) available. Another limitation faced by many instruments, including the piano, is that once a note has been played, there is no way of varying the volume of the sound over time. In the video you linked, the harp is arguably even more limited than the piano because it is not even possible to play legato or sustaining a long note, which the piano is at least capable (with help from the pedal if necessary).
As surprising as it seems, the simple violin, which have fewer components than a piano or organ, and in essense no more than strings mounted on a piece of wood, has the widest range of techniques available to it. You can play legato, sticcato, pizzacato, vibrato, portamento, rubato. You can vary volume of a note over time, you can vary the speed, frequency and depth of your multiplicity of techniques to create an immense range of sounds. You even have the freedom to change the orientation of your instrument during your performance to change the projection of the sound. The huge freedoms available help the performer create emotion. I think to a large degree, composers for keyboard instruments such as Chopin or Liszt and others in the Romantic era, tried to mimic string instruments by using chromatic notes. The only real limitation I can think of in a violin is that you are limited to playing two (double stop) or perhaps three (by playing the notes very quickly) notes at a time, whereas the larger instruments like the piano or organ allows you to play as many notes as fingers on two hands (or add two feet). However, you can duplicate that with multiple string instruments, so I don't really see it as a loss.
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goddamnedfrank Fri, Nov 2, 2012 11:43:42pm |
Obama led in 19 battleground state polls today. Romney led in one.— Nate Silver (@fivethirtyeight) November 3, 2012
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ghazidor Fri, Nov 2, 2012 11:48:02pm |
re: #210 Sophist, Gingham Style (AKA Bronco Bama)
Hey, if you don't have plans for spring break, my uncle has a beachfront condo in Antarctica I can talk him into letting us use.
(p.s. How do you do that purple text thing again?)
To do wingnut text you do this, only with no spaces inside the brackets
[ wingnut ] your text here [ /wingnut ]
OK?
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Tigger2 Fri, Nov 2, 2012 11:51:32pm |
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Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society Sat, Nov 3, 2012 12:20:21am |
re: #218 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Savvy.
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Kragar Sat, Nov 3, 2012 12:45:07am |
New Yorkers offer post-Sandy rides to strangers ‘just like 9/11′
A temporary rule that only cars transporting three or more people could cross bridges into Manhattan made quick friends of drivers and hopeful pedestrians, according to Mother Jones.
While there were no official carpools, one police officer said people had been very open to picking up strangers.
“Same thing happened on 9/11,” he explained.
One Brooklyn resident, Melissa, said, “We almost just missed being able to get over the bridge and thankfully saw this nice stranger running the other direction, asked if he needed a ride, and he happens to need a ride.”
The man, named Pascal, said it was a different time. “We all come together in New York,” he said.
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ghazidor Sat, Nov 3, 2012 1:01:41am |
Genderless marriage? WTF?
"Equal Marriage" = Unequal Heterosexuals
The homosexual push for "equal marriage," otherwise known as genderless marriage, can only lead to a ban on heterosexual rights. With a President in power who endorses gay causes and readily misuses executive orders, and emboldened by their numerous wins for gay rights at the legislative and judicial level, homosexuals have now moved beyond equal rights to the "more equal than you" level. As a result, gay organizations are working to ban that practice they fear the most -- heterosexual behavior...
...The culture war is not slowing down; it's just beginning to gain steam as gay organizations turn to anti-heterosexual legislation, mandatory public approval of sodomy, federal funding of gay youth activist organizations and homosexual initiatives, required government training against "homophobia," "heterosexism," and "transphobia," etc., etc. This is more than a culture war; it is a war for our very own freedoms -- a war for the character and future of our nation.
Homofascism will soon be, if it is not already, the greatest threat to our individual liberties in this country. So-called equality marriage is just the beginning.
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Nov 3, 2012 1:09:58am |
re: #1 Charles Johnson
This is the same mentality that spawned the Spanish Inquisition.
re: #2 Gus
Mitt Romney. Leader of the anti-intellectual Republican Party. Leader of anti-intellectual America.
re: #4 Mocking Jay
Fox News and the rest of the right-wing punditry have poisoned this country.
Honestly, WHY are you worrying?
HIS ASS IS GRASS.
(OK, I'm being vulgar, deal with it!)
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freetoken Sat, Nov 3, 2012 1:11:36am |
re: #223 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Greg Quinlan is President of Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays & Gays PFOX and Executive Director of Equality and Justice For All.
The link takes you to his organization. Just another in a long line of highly unsettled people projecting their fears onto others.
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ghazidor Sat, Nov 3, 2012 1:22:40am |
Well at least he got the part about "ranting" right, although personally I would have have used raving...
Bad Eagle: "The Rantings of a Conservative Comanche."
Indiana Republican Senate candidate Richard Mourdock found himself pushing the envelop of conservative views on abortion to the edge of the table, perhaps more dramatically than even Missouri U.S. Senate candidate Todd Akin. Mourdock said, “I think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen.” He pleaded the cause with with a heartfelt burden. Naturally, the liberal media turned it into more of the Republican war–on women. Never mind the child. Damn the unborn. That’s the liberal position. Get rid of that thing, now!
Tough call. Liberals will have their victims (women alive, that can vote), regardless. The question of “legitimate” rape (i.e., was the woman actually raped), or the statistic indicating how many actually raped women actually become pregnant thereby, do not interest liberals at all. They want the unborn, and newly born, slaughtered, as population control, and they want old people eased out as quickly as possible. The party of death, the Democrat Party.
Funny but I seem to remember there being a lot of talk here about the statistics and numbers, silly me, I must have imagined all of that.
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ghazidor Sat, Nov 3, 2012 1:38:51am |
Meanwhile at WND the dog whistles get louder...
Guess when Inauguration Day is in 2013?
If Barack Obama loses the election to Mitt Romney, his official White House move-out day won’t be Jan. 20, as most have assumed.
If a new president is elected Nov. 6, he won’t be officially and publicly sworn in until Jan. 21, 2013 – which happens to be Martin Luther King Jr. Day, a federal holiday.
That’s the determination of the Presidential Inaugural Conference, because Jan. 20 falls on a Sunday in 2013....
But will civility rule on Jan. 21?
Protests are already being planned....
Meanwhile, the social media have been abuzz with threats by Obama supporters to riot if Romney wins....
Not content with threats to riot if Romney wins in November, some Obama supporters have announced on Twitter they intend to vandalize and burn down the White House if the GOP candidate is victorious, Twitchy reports.
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freetoken Sat, Nov 3, 2012 1:41:08am |
re: #227 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
WND dropped the mask some time ago. I consider them the same as VDARE, but with JESUS!!!
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Nov 3, 2012 1:41:49am |
NY Times has put up a really top interactive electoral path calculator. This is going to be the go to tool to use on election night as the returns come in and states get called off.
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 1:47:46am |
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Nov 3, 2012 2:00:58am |
A Clackamas County elections worker is under criminal investigation for tampering with ballots, WW has learned.The underlying allegation is that the woman, whose name has not been released, filled in blanks on ballots turned into the county for the Nov. 6 general election.
Sources familiar with the incident say their understanding is that the woman filled in a straight Republican ticket on the ballots where preferences had been left blank by voters.
Elections law makes marking another person's ballot a class C felony.
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 2:08:06am |
re: #232 goddamnedfrank
We're having similar type problems here in NC- felons voting, mentally handicapped being taken to precincts to vote by caregivers...
Next up, the Parade of Lawyers
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ghazidor Sat, Nov 3, 2012 2:14:34am |
While the article is a cesspool of angry misogynistic slurs towards women the comments are even more reality challenged...
slwerner says:
This matter of women not being easily impregnated via forced rape is a biological reality; and I believe it should be noted that the same physiological functioning – the role of the cervix in controlling access to sperm entering the fallopian tubes – is also an important consideration as to why cheating wives, unlike actual rape victims, are more likely to get pregnant by their illicit lover.
The terror of being brutally raped will prevent most victims from becoming deeply aroused (even though the physio-mechanical activity is basically the same), which, in turn, means that the cervix will not tend to dilate, and create a better opening though which sperm might pass.
However, when engaging in illicit affairs, women tend to become highly aroused (often much more so than what they experience regularly with their husbands), and thus the cervix tends to dilate. The response of the cervix to deep arousal is a fairly reliable mechanism by which women subconsciously influence which men (who they have sexual intercourse with, willingly or otherwise) are likely to impregnate them.
It’s certainly not a fool-proof means, as some (legitimate) rape victims do report becoming aroused (arousal having both physical as well as mental components). But, in situations wherein a woman (married, or with long-term partner) later reports that she has become pregnant due to having been raped, it should raise at least some suspicion – especially if she made no immediate outcry of rape...
So what are you saying? That if your wife gets pregnant it automatically means she is having an affair?
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 2:15:42am |
It's a sad day when for a lot of people winning an election trumps the sanctity of the voting process.
Depressing, really.
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 2:21:25am |
re: #234 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
On a serious note, some people cannot be helped- somethings are so broken they just cannot be fixed.
This guy is one of those people.
Hard right politics have give him an outlet and a home.
This isn't to say there aren't lunatics across the entire political spetrum- there are of course- but the right is unique in that they have kept this type insanity a bit too close to the mainstream.
And therein lies the problem- the establishment right believes they can control crazy. Big, big mistake.
They'll figure it out, eventually.
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AK-47% Sat, Nov 3, 2012 2:21:38am |
Wingnut logic: Al Gore spoke out against AGW. Al Gore is a liberal. Therefore anything to do with AGW is evil.
I hate to say it, but in his attempt at trying to put himself above politics and present AGW as a humanitarian issue that transcended politics, he managed to politicize it and bring a lot of people who had simply ignored it onto the frothing anti-AGW bandwagon.
Not really blaming Al, he did not turn these people into frothing fuckturds, he just gave them a nucleus to congeal around.
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freetoken Sat, Nov 3, 2012 2:22:45am |
re: #231 researchok
Who is that? And is she singing in Swedish?
Something like that. I don't know her name.
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 2:23:37am |
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freetoken Sat, Nov 3, 2012 2:24:50am |
I do know this singer though - Jessye Norman:
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Nov 3, 2012 2:28:45am |
re: #233 researchok
We're having similar type problems here in NC- felons voting, mentally handicapped being taken to precincts to vote by caregivers...
Next up, the Parade of Lawyers
You appear to be whining about things that are completely and unambiguously legal. Felons who've completed their sentences, parole and probation are allowed to vote in NC.
§ 13-1. Restoration of citizenship.
Chapter 13. Citizenship Restored.
Any person convicted of a crime, whereby the rights of citizenship are forfeited, shall have such rights automatically restored upon the occurrence of any one of the following conditions:
(1) The unconditional discharge of an inmate by the State Division of Adult Correction of the Department of Public Safety or the North Carolina Division of Adult Correction of the Department of Public Safety, of a probationer by the State Division of Adult Correction of the Department of Public Safety, or of a parolee by the Division of Adult Correction of the Department of Public Safety; or of a defendant under a suspended sentence by the court.
(2) The unconditional pardon of the offender.
(3) The satisfaction by the offender of all conditions of a conditional pardon.
(4) With regard to any person convicted of a crime against the United States, the
unconditional discharge of such person by the agency of the United States having jurisdiction of such person, the unconditional pardon of such person or the satisfaction by such person of a conditional pardon.
(5) With regard to any person convicted of a crime in another state, the unconditional discharge of such person by the agency of that state having jurisdiction of such person, the unconditional pardon of such person or the satisfaction by such person of a conditional pardon. (1971, c. 902; 1973, c. 251; c. 1262, s. 10; 1977, c. 813, s. 1; 1991, c. 274, s. 1; 2011-145, s. 19.1(h).)
Mentally handicapped people are allowed to vote there too.
I'm sorry, but it just seems incredibly dickish to begrudge others their clear legal rights to participate in society.
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 2:32:50am |
re: #241 goddamnedfrank
Actually, the guy who was busted was still in custody
As for the mentally disabled, see this
These stories have been getting a lot of play here.
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freetoken Sat, Nov 3, 2012 2:35:28am |
re: #239 researchok
Well, feel free to post more of her music.
The notes say:
Bjork Gudmundsdottir & Trio Gudmundar Ingolfssonar, and they are from Iceland.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Nov 3, 2012 2:45:24am |
re: #242 researchok
Actually, the guy who was busted was still in custody
He wasn't a felon. That's what "not guilty by reason of insanity" means. He was in a mental institution and had a legal right to vote.
As for the mentally disabled, see this
These stories have been getting a lot of play here.
Wow, a lot of play, that's convincing. I stand by my earlier assessment, you're just whining about people exercising their legal rights.
Jimmy Green's stepdaughter had never voted before. The 57-year-old is mentally disabled, and Green said she doesn't understand the concept of casting a ballot.
...
Jimmy Green has not lodged an official complaint about his stepdaughter being escorted to the polls. He said he fears reprisals against her from the care home.
"I'm not holding up for either party here in this case," he said, "but it's just not right."
LOL. Old man's angry that his mentally handicapped stepdaughter voted for the black President, too gutless to officially lodge a complaint. So instead he's talking shit to the press about her ability to comprehend her decision and you're eating it up with a soup ladle.
Lame.
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ghazidor Sat, Nov 3, 2012 2:46:49am |
Just so the guys will know that I'm not picking on them, here is proof that women can be just as horribly sexist...
The Power of Truth and the Will.
We must redefine the world around these roles if we are to defeat the enemy, not become more like them by redefining our roles to better suit THEIR filthy world. We are dealing with creatures that obsess with death, and force an opening for destruction with everything they touch and create.
Males are the rapists, the murderers, the criminals, the warmongers, the creators of almost every war throughout humyn history, the writers of every religion which oppresses womyn, the creators of almost every law which has ever harmed another humyn, the creators of guns, bombs, and other weapons so deranged and horrific that their existence defies the very boundaries of sanity.
MFs, MAWRAs, and "Humanists" all fight for a reality which will never be, an idea of equality which has always been false, and a dream that will never be achieved. So long as men exist in equal numbers to womyn, they will be in power. They will oppress, they will destroy, they will rape, they will murder, and they will burn the world over and over, rebuilding it with the same gruesome orchestration each time in a perpetually hellish cycle of repetition.
Is it just me or does it seem like she really despises men to anyone else here?
/
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 2:50:25am |
re: #245 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
The internet has given the marginal a voice.
Lucky us.
//
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 2:51:07am |
re: #244 goddamnedfrank
From the same article:
Don Talbot said he saw vans full of mentally disabled voters brought to the polls time and again during his years as a former precinct chief in Cumberland County. He said it often appeared they had little input in completing the ballot.
"The audacity of it to me, it is shameful, but both parties do it," said Talbot, a former Fayetteville city councilman. "When you haul people that are not competent and you do their voting for them, that's fraud."
Bob Hall with Democracy North Carolina, a voter rights group, said he hears protests about the opposite problem.
"We also get complaints from people who want to provide assistance being told they're not allowed to give it," he said. "They go overboard on the other direction."
It can be hard for observers to tell how much assistance a voter is getting, said Lisa Grafstein, a lawyer for the Disability Rights N.C. advocacy group.
"It is tough, because you can't really get in the middle of that conversation and know what was going on there," she said. "We can't put a block on a whole host of people voting because we suspect there might be some incidental instances of exploitation ... . I don't think the law can really draw a black line like that."
When exploitation does occur, the focus should be on the people manipulating the voters rather than stripping the rights of the disabled, Grafstein said. She likened their situation to that of an elderly person scammed over the phone.
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wheat-dogghazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 2:56:08am |
re: #234 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
The ignorance of basic human biology being shown here is horrifying. This is the same BS that Akin, Mourdock and others have been spouting recently -- some kind of bizarro-world sex education lessons.
I wonder how many of these buffoons are currently sitting on Boards of Education across the USA now. Scares me to even think about it.
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ghazidor Sat, Nov 3, 2012 2:56:59am |
re: #246 researchok
The internet has given the marginal a voice.
Lucky us.
//
Scroll down on that one and look at her outline of how to create the "New World" her ideas make the Nazi "Final Solution" look like a kids game...
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:00:37am |
re: #249 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Psychopathic- in a big, big way.
And the calls for 'removal...'
Res ipsa loquitor.
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wheat-dogghazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:01:25am |
re: #243 freetoken
Björk, as in former member of The Sugarcubes Björk.
iTunes has the album from which Freetoken's track "Luktar-Gvendur" was taken: Gling Glo.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:02:50am |
re: #247 researchok
From the same article:
Yeah, I read it. You are relating people's angry, totally ignorant assumptions about the relationship between the disabled and their caregivers in the polling booth. You also started off by comparing it to the felony committed by the poll worker in Oregon. That's lame.
Maybe Republicans should advocate paying social workers and home caregivers more so they can attract more greedy financial conservatives into the field, then they might feel better when they see caregivers helping the handicapped exercise their legal rights.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:03:50am |
re: #249 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Scroll down on that one and look at her outline of how to create the "New World" her ideas make the Nazi "Final Solution" look like a kids game...
Go to her Youtube channel. She's actually adorable.
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:07:37am |
re: #249 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
I've been looking at her site- she is either seriously nuts or this is the parody of the decade.
Check out the Femiteist glossary.on her sidebar.
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:08:22am |
re: #252 goddamnedfrank
Let me get this straight- this is now about me?
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:13:14am |
re: #255 researchok
Let me get this straight- this is now about me?
Yeah, you're a whiner, pathetically whining about shit that's unambiguously legal and comparing it to a clear felony.
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:20:51am |
re: #256 goddamnedfrank
Right.
I cited the remarks of a former precinct chief and a lawyer advocate for the disabled about the possible exploitation of mentally disabled voters (which is not legal) and this is about me
Right.
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:21:26am |
re: #255 researchok
Let me get this straight- this is now about me?
Complaining about people who are legally allowed to vote voting is kinda weird, dude.
It's pretty close to saying that people who aren't that smart shouldn't be able to vote.
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:25:30am |
re: #258 Obdicut
Sorry dude, his isn't about my complaints.
The media here are discussing the story.
And the article makes clear people who are disabled can vote- the issue is whether or not they are being manipulated.
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:25:39am |
In a more happy note, here's an email I wrote to a guy who I met out volunteering.
Dr. X,
It was nice meeting you on on the volunteer cleanup today. My wife and I are (most recently) from San Francisco, and New York has been kind of trying for us at times. We've had a lot of great times, but the city overwhelms us on occasion. But I think the way that New Yorkers are coming together in the aftermath of the hurricane, the number of people I see helping out, the way that people are genuinely inquiring after each other, genuinely listening to others stories-- it's really wonderful. For me, at least, this is going to be the year that I really started to love New York. And part of that is meeting people from all walks of life out volunteering. So thanks for being a part of that.
Got a really nice response, too.
Honestly, New Yorkers are impressing the fuck out of me. The people uptown here totally realize how lucky they are, I haven't heard a single person complain, everyone just talks about what happened to others. Every volunteer event I've gone to has had more than enough volunteers to fill the jobs that are needed. A coffee shop brought out a brace of lattes for us while we were working near them.
I haven't seen an example of greed or human stupidity in the aftermath of this storm. It's kind of spooky.
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ghazidor Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:28:42am |
Another day another rant by Bryan Fischer about Gays and the evil government...sigh. :(
Does Anthony Kennedy Regret the Immoral Lawrence Decision?
Anthony Kennedy wrote the infamous Lawrence v. Texas decision that made laws against sodomy unenforceable in America. The Court issued this egregious display of arrogant and immoral judicial activism despite the fact that sodomy had been a criminal offense in all 50 States until 1961 and was still against the law in 24 States and the District of Columbia when the Lawrence decision was issued.
So in one fell swoop the Court deprived almost half the Union of the right to self-governance through their elected representatives, the essence of a republican form of government, and imposed its own twisted version of morality on the entire country. And here we thought imposing your values on others was supposed to be bad! Silly us for believing that swill.
Does this man think about nothing but sodomy 24/7?
Wait, don't answer that, I don't want to know...
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:31:26am |
re: #257 researchok
Right.
I cited the remarks of a former precinct chief and a lawyer advocate for the disabled about the possible exploitation of mentally disabled voters (which is not legal) and this is about me
Right.
Yep, you're a whiner. Whining about "possible exploitation," saying it's a "similar type problem" to an actual felony and "Next up, the Parade of Lawyers." It's just lame. Find a concrete problem to complain about, not people's supposition of possible things that might be happening.
Even, assuming it's actually a thing, how is a caregiver telling a mentally handicapped person who to vote for any different or intrinsically worse than Rush Limbaugh trying to influence the votes of his mouth breathing audience?
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wheat-dogghazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:32:53am |
re: #260 Obdicut
The new stereotype of New Yorkers being rude, distant and self-absorbed is only that -- a stereotype. I am very proud of my hometown (although technically, I am from Long Island) and the fellowship New Yorkers can have, even as they complain about Bloomberg, Con Ed and the MTA.
People in Staten Island, though, are pretty pissed now.
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:35:11am |
re: #261 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
I am always leery of people who put what ought to be private on public view.
This is especially true of sexual matters.
People who are compelled to do that are dealing with some pathology.
People who make someone else's sexuality their business and a part of their identity (both ethical and political) have way bigger issues to deal with.
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:36:03am |
re: #259 researchok
Yeah, and, like I said, that's not that different from being concerned about people who simply aren't that smart voting. Or the old argument that women would just vote as their husband instructed them to.
The article you cited also said this:
Bob Hall with Democracy North Carolina, a voter rights group, said he hears protests about the opposite problem.
"We also get complaints from people who want to provide assistance being told they're not allowed to give it," he said. "They go overboard on the other direction."
So if you get overly concerned about people being 'coerced', you're going to wind up depriving people who do need a lot of assistance in voting from being able to vote.
A lot of people got upset about this one, too:
[Link: www.hawaiinewsnow.com...]
For the mentally handicapped being coerced into voting in one direction or another, they have to be just handicapped enough to be vulnerable, not so much that they're ineligible to vote, and not so much that they can't be relied on to follow instructions but enough so that they'll blindly do what they're told. It'd be a pretty narrow window of functionality, and what would the home care people be getting out of it? Coincidentally, the people running the care homes are all corrupt and want to commit a felony of coercing someone else's vote?
"The audacity of it to me, it is shameful, but both parties do it," said Talbot, a former Fayetteville city councilman. "When you haul people that are not competent and you do their voting for them, that's fraud."
What does he mean by 'not competent'? Does he mean them not being intelligent enough to understand the issues?
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:37:08am |
re: #264 researchok
Why do you get to decide what out to be private and what should be public?
That tends to simply be different in different cultures. It used to be shameful to discuss pregnancy in public.
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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course) Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:37:09am |
re: #77 Lidane
Because Obama, that's why. Also, Al Gore and SOROS and science.
Also, fuck you hippie. Why do you hate America?
Also, too: "Get a job."
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:40:16am |
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engineer cat Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:41:47am |
re: #221 freetoken
that's a lot of fun - she has an appealingly wacky way of singing, with loads of style. she doesn't make it sound like reaching for those high notes are easy for her, so the effect is more exciting than hearing somebody who just gets everywhere smoothly
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:42:21am |
So if you get overly concerned about people being 'coerced', you're going to wind up depriving people who do need a lot of assistance in voting from being able to vote.
I said that?
Really?
Here is what I did say:
And the article makes clear people who are disabled can vote- the issue is whether or not they are being manipulated.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:43:13am |
The Republican candidate for President has actually physically constructed his campaign from lies. How is that not an unethical manipulation of people who are mentally incapable of discerning the truth from his bullshit? Tons of people try to influence each other's votes, through dialog, solicited advice and even unsolicited argument. Somewhere along the line we decided that our democracy was going to be mercenary in nature, so I'm not sure why it's exploitation when social workers who take care of and spend time with the mentally handicapped every day help them through the exercise of their legal right to vote. I especially don't think that the relationship between the two is instructively second guessed by observers who are full of unfounded suspicion only.
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:44:17am |
re: #266 Obdicut
Why do you get to decide what out to be private and what should be public?.
And by the way, be accurate. I never said I get to decide anything. I said I was leery.
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:44:46am |
re: #268 researchok
I guess you consider Bryan Fischer's discussions mainstream
Interesting
Why would you guess that?
I asked a pretty simple question, though, backed by a very valid point: What is considered public and private changes wildly, and is a cultural value. You're saying that defying the public idea is pathological.
Does it work in reverse, too?
This is a roman toilet:
That's not just the urinals, that's also for taking a shit. It used to be fine to do in public. In our society, we've decided taking a piss in public is okay, but taking a shit needs some relative privacy. Why? I dunno. We just do. That's where we put the arbitrary line.
Is all you're saying is that people who violate public norms of behavior are automatically pathological?
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:46:12am |
re: #270 researchok
I'm sorry, I don't see where I said you said anything in particular. Do you mean you're not concerned about people getting coerced?
Great.
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:48:23am |
re: #274 Obdicut
I'm sorry, I don't see where I said you said anything in particular. Do you mean you're not concerned about people getting coerced?
Great.
How would you even divine that form what I said or cited?
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:49:01am |
re: #271 goddamnedfrank
Part of the deal is that there is no requirement that people even take voting seriously. Someone can say that they voted blindly, and their vote still counts. Someone can say they voted for the guy with the funnier sounding name, and their vote still counts. People don't have to actually demonstrate in any way that they're using their vote responsibly or taking any issue at all into consideration. They still get to vote.
That is important. That is a very important firewall between enacting educational tests and poll taxes and all kinds of other malarkey.
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wheat-dogghazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:51:31am |
re: #269 engineer cat
See my comment #251. This is Bjork before and maybe during her work with the Sugarcubes.
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:51:50am |
re: #273 Obdicut
Is all you're saying is that people who violate public norms of behavior are automatically pathological?
What I said was people who yend to obsess over other peole's sex lives tend to have other issues.
This is exactly what I said:
I am always leery of people who put what ought to be private on public view.
This is especially true of sexual matters.
People who are compelled to do that are dealing with some pathology.
People who make someone else's sexuality their business and a part of their identity (both ethical and political) have way bigger issues to deal with.
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:54:20am |
re: #275 researchok
How would you even divine that form what I said or cited?
Dude. You quoted me saying that you were concerned about people being coerced to vote, and objected to it. Now you're objecting to me saying you're not concerned about it. Which is it?
Maybe it'd be instructive to look at an actual example of coercion.
There are workplaces, as we've seen, where the business owners or executives are telling their workforce how they should vote. Of course, since the vote is blind, they have no way of telling if they did vote that way, so there can be no direct reprisals. However, it's a very clear statement about what management considers to be 'right', and if you go around espousing political views that are opposite to that, then you can be identified and you can be discriminated against at work, and it can be very hard to prove. That's a case of coercion. It's also currently legal, thanks to CU.
There may be cases of coercion against the mentally handicapped too, it's possible. It's possible against most classes of people. But assisting them to vote is not related to coercion to vote in a certain direction, and I don't know why anyone would assume that it was. The doctor you're quoting doesn't seem to understand that these people are, in fact, competent to vote.
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ghazidor Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:54:32am |
Joseph Farah's credibility on this might be a little higher than zero if he hadn't said basically the same fucking thing in 2008!
Obama's 2nd-term war on domestic opposition
Are you ready for a scary story?
I know it’s Halloween, but this is more terrifying than ghosts and goblins and vampires.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: If Barack Obama is re-elected Nov. 6 for a second term, he will declare a full-scale war on his domestic opposition.
There may not be another free and fair election in America.
I would expect due process to go the way of the horse and buggy.
I think he will move to shut down and destroy all independent media.
In fact, I think his biggest critics will be rounded up in the name of national security.
Last week, for instance, with little fanfare, Obama issued an executive order establishing something that sounds so innocent on the surface – but it could prove to be a vehicle for the kind of political putsch I am describing.
It establishes the “White House Homeland Security Partnership Council.”...
...Essentially, Obama wants to deputize “community organizers” like him to determine who represents a real threat to the republic...
...If any Republican, conservative, independent journalist, pro-life activist, returning veteran, gun-rights activist, constitutionalist, Bible believer or critic of Obama thinks they will be safe in a second term under this would-be despot, they had better think again – real fast.
Yeah, yeah, and make sure to buy more guns, gold, and survival seeds so you'll be ready for the Obamacalypse, this time we really mean it!
//
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:55:35am |
re: #273 Obdicut
And by the way, Bryan Fischer is not having a historical, academic or anthropological discussion.
You analogy to the toilet or even sexual habits habits of ancient cultures is not germane..
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:56:50am |
re: #278 researchok
What I said was people who yend to obsess over other peole's sex lives tend to have other issues.
This is exactly what I said:
I guess you just stated it really clumsily, then. When you talk about putting what 'should' be private into the public sphere, I can't really tell the difference between Fischer talking about the sex lives of others, and Dan Savage talking about the sex lives of others.
I mean, the obvious difference is that Fischer is an evil raving bigot. I don't think his problem is talking about sexuality in public. I think it's okay to talk about sexuality in public. Even other people's. I don't think me saying that frat boy date-rape culture is a dangerous thing that we need to pay more attention to is problematic, for example, but that's me talking about the sexuality of others.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:57:02am |
re: #276 Obdicut
Part of the deal is that there is no requirement that people even take voting seriously. Someone can say that they voted blindly, and their vote still counts. Someone can say they voted for the guy with the funnier sounding name, and their vote still counts. People don't have to actually demonstrate in any way that they're using their vote responsibly or taking any issue at all into consideration. They still get to vote.
That is important. That is a very important firewall between enacting educational tests and poll taxes and all kinds of other malarkey.
Kind of what I'm driving at. The actual felony reported in Oregon was of a poll worker changing submitted ballots that held no votes in certain races to a straight Republican ticket. That's changing people express, if frivolous, will. The problem arrises when a voter's will is thwarted, even if their will was not to take the election seriously or not to make a choice at all. If the mentally handicapped person places enough trust in their caregiver to take their advice on who to vote for, then that is also that mentally handicapped person's right. It shouldn't be second guessed.
Everything else that has been presented on this issue has been nothing but supposition about things that concerned people think might be happening.
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:59:32am |
re: #279 Obdicut
No, I cited (via published news articles) the problems of people being coerced to vote, people possibly being coerced to vote, and the opinion of someone who noted some people who could not get the assistance they needed.
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 4:03:13am |
re: #282 Obdicut
Talking about sexuality is one thing. I have no issue with that whatsoever.
Talking about a person's or a particular group's sexuality is quite another, especially if the conversation is not an academic one but rather one that centers around ethics, religion or politics.
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 4:07:26am |
re: #284 researchok
No, I cited (via published news articles) the problems of people being coerced to vote, people possibly being coerced to vote, and the opinion of someone who noted some people who could not get the assistance they needed.
That's nice.
Let's do a quick summary of reality.
1. Most states have a law preventing the mentally incompetent from voting if and only if they're judged incompetent to vote by a court.
1a. In some states, this is an automatic process from any declaration of mental incompetence, incapacity, or guardianship, in others, it's a separate court case.
2. If someone has been adjudicated to be ineligible, they won't be able to register to vote: their name will be matched against the ineligible voters list.
3. We have no standards for intelligence in voting, or in rationality in deciding how to vote or on what grounds to vote.
4. We prize the right to vote so highly that we recognize some people will need assistance in voting, and we allow that.
Ergo, those people who actually are registered to vote are declared competent voters, and whatever process by which they decide to vote is fine. If someone directly coerces them, changes their vote, etc, that's a problem, but that is entirely different from the non-existent problem of taking people who 'aren't competent' to vote. If they're not competent, they can't vote.
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 4:08:17am |
re: #280 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Farah found an outlet that allows him to pretend to be credible to his flock, make money and call himself a journalist.
Another internet entrepreneur.
/
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 4:08:50am |
re: #286 right_wing2
Captain Teleprompter? Seriously? Why do you morons think this is an effective jibe?
Did you mean this guy?
Or this guy?
Or this guy?
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 4:09:33am |
re: #286 right_wing2
An argument instead of a well worn soliloquy would have been appreciated.
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wheat-dogghazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 4:10:08am |
re: #286 right_wing2
Posting as "mfhorn" -- I dearly hope he isn't a fan of Maynard Ferguson (who was Canadian, btw). M.F. Horn is one of my favorite Ferguson albums.
Aside from that, WTF?
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 4:11:03am |
re: #285 researchok
Talking about sexuality is one thing. I have no issue with that whatsoever.
Talking about a person's or a particular group's sexuality is quite another, especially if the conversation is not an academic one but rather one that centers around ethics, religion or politics.
It seems like it'd be a lot easier just to say that being bigoted about the group is the problem, and not talking about sexuality. There's no problem with public discussions of sexuality, at all. They're healthy, and needed.
I do completely agree that if you obsess over the sexuality of others (and aren't doing so for policy or academic reasons) you're probably a weirdo, but that doesn't mean discussions of sexuality should be kept private.
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 4:12:02am |
re: #287 Obdicut
Ergo, those people who actually are registered to vote are declared competent voters, and whatever process by which they decide to vote is fine. If someone directly coerces them, changes their vote, etc, that's a problem, but that is entirely different from the non-existent problem of taking people who 'aren't competent' to vote. If they're not competent, they can't vote.
And therein lies the problem.
As the precinct chief noted, some people who should not have ben registered to vote, were.
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 4:12:40am |
re: #291 wheat-dogg
Aside from that, WTF?
The sad thing is that that guy probably thought that post was a well-executed series of masterstrokes.
I will never, ever understand the stupidity of teleprompter gibe. It is so freaking easy to see that all modern politicians use them. So why on earth do these idiots fool themselves into thinking that Obama relies on them heavily?
The whole screed is part and parcel of the same. A refusal to look at reality.
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researchok Sat, Nov 3, 2012 4:13:55am |
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 4:14:30am |
re: #293 researchok
And therein lies the problem.
As the precinct chief noted, some people who should not have ben registered to vote, were.
He doesn't get to decide that, though. He's not a court. That might be his opinion, but we have very clear rules for stripping people of their right to vote. It doesn't involve the quick impression of one guy at the polls.
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 4:16:26am |
Seriously, right_wing2, if you're still logged in, have a crack at explaining why calling Obama Captain Teleprompter makes sense, when everyone uses them.
Just give it a shot. I bet you can wrangle some pretzel of logic that'll make you feel good. Have at it.
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wheat-dogghazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 4:18:04am |
Also, WTF is this (from #286):
... they're facing an economy that's in the crapper because of economic policies that have failed under Obama, just as they failed under FDR.
Last I checked, unemployment was down, and the DJI was up.
And,
Get bent. Captain Telepromper & his moron sidekick, 'Plugs' Biden are going to be sent packing. Too bad we can't send them back home in one of those stupid Volt's we're being forced to subsidize.
Nearly everyone expects Obama will be re-elected. And you're not subsidizing Volts. You get a tax break if you buy one.
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 4:19:48am |
re: #300 wheat-dogg
Also, FDR brought the country out of the Great Depression. I mean, not according to the Ayn Rand fetishists, but according to, y'know, reality.
Hell, you can even see the point where the recovery stutters because they cut government spending.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Nov 3, 2012 4:20:40am |
re: #298 Obdicut
He doesn't get to decide that, though. He's not a court. That might be his opinion, but we have very clear rules for stripping people of their right to vote. It doesn't involve the quick impression of one guy at the polls.
Exactly. A lot of people with severe physical disabilities appear mentally deficient at first blush. If someone with advanced Lou Gehrig's rolled in to vote and needed assistance it might seem to an outside observer that the caretaker was voting for him.
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wheat-dogghazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 4:21:18am |
re: #301 Obdicut
Ohnoz, charts and numbers! Begone!
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engineer cat Sat, Nov 3, 2012 4:22:02am |
re: #286 right_wing2
what are you, like 14?
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 4:23:30am |
I am now going to be a total dick, but with reason.
[Link: www.facebook.com...]
Those are cats and kittens that need foster care in the wake of Sandy. If they don't get fostered, they'll be euthanized.
Some of these may be strays, or unwanted, so while it would be sad, it'd be not that great a tragedy. But some are probably beloved pets separated from their owners by the storm.
If you know of anyone with the capacity to host a pet in the NYC area, share this with them and see if they can do it. They might get to be the one to reunite a kid with the kitten they thought they'd never see again.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Nov 3, 2012 4:23:54am |
re: #286 right_wing2
I think if you really thought that Romney was going to win you wouldn't have popped the cork on this fine, vintage flounce until late on election night.
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wheat-dogghazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 4:25:34am |
re: #286 right_wing2
Also, I don't see anyone posting at Blogmocracy under the handle mfhorn. Commenting, maybe.
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engineer cat Sat, Nov 3, 2012 4:27:32am |
i really have to wonder what a prize moron like that can possibly be doing to earn a living
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ghazidor Sat, Nov 3, 2012 4:27:54am |
re: #286 right_wing2
Quick everybody look at me, look at me, I'm flouncing!
Watch me as I tear these straw men I just made to shreds!
You people are all smelly poopy-heads, so there!
Now that I have proven my worthiness the stalkers will all adore me. I must go tell them of my triumph!
Bye-bye, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out...
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SteelGHAZI Sat, Nov 3, 2012 4:48:30am |
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ghazidor Sat, Nov 3, 2012 4:48:55am |
re: #299 Obdicut
Seriously, right_wing2, if you're still logged in, have a crack at explaining why calling Obama Captain Teleprompter makes sense, when everyone uses them.
Just give it a shot. I bet you can wrangle some pretzel of logic that'll make you feel good. Have at it.
I guess he thinks Obama should be using notes on the lectern in front of him like all the old-timey True Murican™ Presidents did before the teleprompter was invented? I honestly don't know really since every single President since Lyndon B. Johnson has used them to make speeches.
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 3, 2012 4:59:16am |
Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my teleprompter. Prepare to die.
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 5:07:11am |
Cory Booker is letting people on his block without power chillax at his place.
[Link: gothamist.com...]
Also, he's funny.
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KronoGhazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 5:14:54am |
Teleprompter Flounce... they're freaking out.
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Dane38 Sat, Nov 3, 2012 5:17:49am |
I don´t think it is very democratic to sabotage a political opponents campaign event like that. It turns politics into more of a circus than it already is.
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 3, 2012 5:18:15am |
re: #314 Kronocide
Teleprompter Flounce... they're freaking out.
Some are starting to realize that reality is actually reality.
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 3, 2012 5:20:05am |
re: #315 Dane38
I don't think it's very American to lie and pretend AGW is a hoax.
But, what do I know, living on the coast and all.
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 5:33:08am |
re: #315 Dane38
I don´t think it is very democratic to sabotage a political opponents campaign event like that. It turns politics into more of a circus than it already is.
Huh? What sabotage?
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 5:35:21am |
Russia is now censoring the interwebs:
[Link: www.wired.com...]
Signed into law by Vladimir Putin on July 28, the internet-filtering measure contains a single, innocuous-sounding paragraph that allows those compiling the Register to draw on court decisions relating to the banning of websites. The problem is, the courts have ruled to block more than child pornographers’ sites. The judges have also agreed to online bans on political extremists and opponents of the Putin regime.
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PhillyPretzel Sat, Nov 3, 2012 5:39:00am |
re: #320 Obdicut
I hope Sergey is okay. It also could explain why we have not seen him, too.
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 5:41:42am |
Lemme put it this way: If your campaign can be 'sabotaged' by a guy asking a question about one of the most important issues of our time, then your campaign blows chunks.
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Dane38 Sat, Nov 3, 2012 5:48:42am |
re: #319 Obdicut
Huh? What sabotage?
Well.. interrupting the speaker by yelling and raising banners with a different political agenda, isn´t part of the event is it?
I think it is an ignorant way of campaigning.
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wheat-dogghazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 5:49:32am |
re: #320 Obdicut
Ah, the China solution. Say you are policing for porn and coincidentally shut down political sites and discussions.
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 5:51:14am |
re: #323 Dane38
Well.. interrupting the speaker by yelling and raising banners with a different political agenda, isn´t part of the event is it?
I think it is an ignorant way of campaigning.
You mean, Mitt Romney's denial of AGW is ignorant?
I'm really not getting you. I can see yelling being called 'rude', but doesn't it matter what's being yelled?
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KronoGhazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 5:56:06am |
Rmoney's response while Climate Guy was being rousted out reminded me of the sacrifice scene in Apocalypto. The look on the faces of the royalty while they presided over the sacrifices, high as heck on some kind of drug, a distant look in their faintly smiling eyes.
Warning, very graphic.
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PhillyPretzel Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:01:08am |
I just posted a page on falling back. Daylight Savings Time ends this weekend. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Dane38 Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:02:55am |
re: #325 Obdicut
You mean, Mitt Romney's denial of AGW is ignorant?
I'm really not getting you. I can see yelling being called 'rude', but doesn't it matter what's being yelled?
Romney is generally an ignorant person, but that doesn´t mean you should interrupt and sabotage his event like that just because you disagree with him politically.
My point is simply, that it is not the political viewpoints of the Heckler I am against, just his behaviour. I dont see why his behaviour should be applauded just because he is right.
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:07:30am |
re: #328 Dane38
Romney is generally an ignorant person, but that doesn´t mean you should interrupt and sabotage his event like that just because you disagree with him politically.
But it isn't about disagreeing with him politically, is it? It's about an actual scientific fact.
My point is simply, that it is not the political viewpoints of the Heckler I am against, just his behaviour. I dont see why his behaviour should be applauded just because he is right.
I don't really see anyone applauding his behavior. I see people saying chanting "USA" in response to a question about climate change is stupid.
Where do you see applause for his behavior, please?
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Dane38 Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:16:30am |
re: #329 Obdicut
But it isn't about disagreeing with him politically, is it? It's about an actual scientific fact.
I don't really see anyone applauding his behavior. I see people saying chanting "USA" in response to a question about climate change is stupid.
Where do you see applause for his behavior, please?
If it is not about disagreeing with him politically then the happening really has no place at a political event.
I dont see applause but Charles considered it worthy of posting, while I get downdinged for noting my opinion of the hecklers actions.
You think it is a little ok because you agree with him - don´t you?
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:19:29am |
re: #330 Dane38
If it is not about disagreeing with him politically then the happening really has no place at a political event.
That makes no sense. Romney was being heckled about climate change-- which is a scientific fact (one that he has in the past acknowledged, but now runs away from). It was even a question, not an accusation. "What about climate change?" is a fully answerable question. It's not even much of a heckle.
I dont see applause but Charles considered it worthy of posting, while I get downdinged for noting my opinion of the hecklers actions.
If you didn't see applause, why did you complain about applause?
You seem to be missing the point: Heckling is rude. That's why it was rightly called 'heckling' by Charles. Heckling is a negative all on its own.
But the point is the response of the crowd, the chant of "USA" in response to the idea of climate change. Do you really not get that?
EDIT: And don't you agree with the heckler, too? Or are you an AGW denier?
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A Mom Anon Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:24:02am |
re: #330 Dane38
I don't think it's out of line to shout out a question at a political rally at all. However,if you have 10 people screaming and shouting down a question(yes,tea partiers,I'm looking at you)from a constituent or stopping a rally entirely,then yes,that's another issue. The guy had a sign and yelled a perfectly legit question(not something like"you were born in Kenya,weren't ya?"),and then he got kicked out of the place. That's the part I find most telling,asking a question gets you dragged out of a political speech or rally when the question really isn't out of line or threatening. Says more about the politician than the questioner.
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:25:06am |
AGW is very real and very dangerous.
I WANT people to heckle the candidates about it.
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:27:11am |
re: #333 Varek Raith
AGW is very real and very dangerous.
I WANT people to heckle the candidates about it.
I don't. I don't think heckling is useful. However, the problem of Romney denying AGW is a much bigger problem than him being heckled about it.
I'd much rather that in one of the debates that he was asked a question about it. That was really grindingly stupid.
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:28:57am |
re: #334 Obdicut
I don't. I don't think heckling is useful. However, the problem of Romney denying AGW is a much bigger problem than him being heckled about it.
I'd much rather that in one of the debates that he was asked a question about it. That was really grindingly stupid.
Yeah, I see your point. I'm just to the point where I'm sick of it being ignored.
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ghazidor Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:29:06am |
Well this is different. Beware of the...
The mushroom multiplies very fast. It resembles a flat cake, and when you put it in a container and feed it with strong tea, it grows in size and multiplies.
After the news on the Radio about the dangers of the mushroom, one old lady decided to throw it away to the nearby bush. When she did that, to her horror and surprise, she had a voice telling:” Are you throwing me away after I have helped you this much? Don’t you want anymore? She then started yelling and when people came, they also heard the voice and the whole village was in panic. It took brave men of God courage and faith to remove the mushroom from the bush and prayed for it. When they did this, it turned to a little white snake.
The mushroom resembles a placenta. It is flesh like, soft and it kind of moves. When you look at it very carefully, it has a small opening (Mouth) and two little dots (Eyes).
This is a tact that the devil used to ensnare people. The devil knew that he would catch people using their weakness (Fear of witchcraft).
| 337 |
Varek Raith Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:32:25am |
Fox's Doocy: "As I Remember," Romney's Plan Saved The Auto Industry
As I remember, I can shoot fireballs from my ass.
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:33:16am |
re: #337 Varek Raith
As I remember, Doocy owes me $5000 for that expensive stripper.
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Obdicut Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:35:03am |
Alright, going to go do volunteer stuff at a shelter for people displaced by the hurricane. No clue how long it'll last.
Have a good one, all.
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Romantic Heretic Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:39:21am |
re: #11 Archangelus
Words fail me... no, scrap that, "oye vey" seems fitting here...
French works for me. Plus ca change, plus ca meme chose.
This sort of thing has happened a lot in history. The world changes and people who don't want change to happen go insane. They start indulging in magical thinking, and worse.
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dragonath Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:41:03am |
re: #336 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Well this is different. Beware of the...
Where the FUCK do these clowns get their ideas. Reminds me of the first time I went in a church down South, the minister was writhing around and talking about exorcisms.
There are thoughtful church going people out there, but the current trend of evangelism resembles pagan thinking more than anything else.
| 342 |
Varek Raith Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:45:27am |
re: #336 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Well this is different. Beware of the...
Clearly they've been smoking it...
| 343 |
Four More Tears Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:46:21am |
And again with the gas line outside my house.
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wheat-dogghazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:47:26am |
re: #336 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Where do you find this stuff? (Not the mushrooms, the articles.) These are some seriously wacked-out people.
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dragonath Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:49:19am |
re: #336 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Hey, imagine that. The guy is from Clueless, TX.
Free in the Lord Ministries
So and So West Pipeline Road
Euless, Texas 76040-6201
| 346 |
Mich-again Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:55:32am |
re: #337 Varek Raith
Fox's Doocy: "As I Remember," Romney's Plan Saved The Auto Industry
As I remember, I can shoot fireballs from my ass.
Romney's plan was liquidation and years of fighting over the scraps in court.
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Lidane Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:00:26am |
Exclusive: Christie was Mitt's first choice for VP
This would explain a lot about Christie's RNC speech barely mentioning Mitt and add to his contempt during Sandy when Faux News was trying to get sympathetic talking points out of him on Romney's behalf.
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dragonath Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:00:31am |
Oh my, the website is pure gold:
[Link: www.freeinthelordministries.com...]
In 2006 a man came to a S.C. Nazarene church to display his puppets which he claimed were used to teach Jesus Christ to young children. I took issue with the pastor and was told simply “it does not matter, there is nothing wrong with puppets and magicians in the church when used to teach children about biblical principles, etc” What really is involved is trickery and deceit, which can cause a child to become deceived and take on a spirit of spiritual dullness. Demons love puppets. What appears to be innocent is the very thing Satan and his demons use getting to children and start them on a path to deception and acceptance of deeper demonic issues later on.
A couple had a one-eyed stuffed large frog named “Max”. After some period of time they began to talk about him as if he were a family member. Max sat on a bookcase and eventually the couple “noticed his eye” seemed to be looking at them. God revealed the demonic properties of Max, he was trashed and the curses broken that demons had put on the frog.
There are recorded cases where frightened children had terrifying nightmares and upon checking their room it was discovered the child had dolls and stuffed animals in the room. When these items were removed there came a calm and peace to the child and his bedroom.One very demonic item should never be in any child's bedroom or nursery - the "Dream Catcher". Always a deadly curse.
Holy shit shit shit shit
| 349 |
Mich-again Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:01:08am |
re: #227 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Twitchy reports.
Those two words are always preceded by a whopper.
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KronoGhazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:08:08am |
re: #349 Mich-again
Those two words are always preceded by a whopper.
Twitchy is news, new media, because old media sucks. Just ask the Cronkite Lifetime Achievement Award recipient Michelle Malkin.
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ghazidor Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:09:00am |
Yesssss it has begun, our youth army is at last on the rise, soon the FEMA detention camps educational centers will sprout up across the country.
Bwahahahahaha!!!
Freepers freak out of course....
Homeland Security graduates first Corps of Homeland Youth
DHS raising an armed army
The first problem one finds with this ‘new army’ is the fact that they are mere children. Yes, 18 is generally the legal age a person can sign a contract, join the military or be tried as an adult. But ask any parent - an 18, 20 or even a 24 year-old is still a naïve, readily-influenced kid.
The second problem with this announcement and program is its timing. Over the past two years, President Obama has signed a number of Executive Orders suspending all civil and Constitutional rights and turning over management of an America under Martial Law to FEMA. Also in that time, domestic federal agencies under DHS, including FEMA, have ordered billions of rounds of ammunition as well as the corresponding firearms. Admittedly, these new weapons and ammunition aren’t to be used in some far-off war or to fight forest fires in California, but right here on the streets of America.
| 352 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:09:10am |
Morning all!
what do you do when you can't find a file in "finder" on your macbook, but you go back into the program and pull it up and it is definitly there. I checked the file path and everything.
And that's how my morning is going.
Yours?
| 353 |
lawhawk Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:11:21am |
So, I'm awakened this morning bright and early by the sound of leaf blowers and tree shredders.
The sounds of recovery never sounded so good.
PSE&G crews were busy working on the lines a couple of blocks away. They had to install new poles and then restring and had been working at 9pm when I drove past. Wonder how far along they are this morning.
We're talking about a 500 foot stretch of line btw. They're more than 24 hours on that segment.
That might get a few hundred homes back on - or 50. I'm not really sure. But when you multiply that by the thousands of trees down on lines and the thousands of poles that need to be replaced and restrung, you begin to get an idea of the magnitude of the damage to the power utilities here.
| 354 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:11:36am |
re: #348 dragonath
Oh my, the website is pure gold:
[Link: www.freeinthelordministries.com...]
Holy shit shit shit shit
Whackos to the left of me, Whackos to the right of me . . .
Ok, mostly on the right.
| 355 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:12:30am |
re: #340 Romantic Heretic
French works for me. Plus ca change, plus ca meme chose.
This sort of thing has happened a lot in history. The world changes and people who don't want change to happen go insane. They start indulging in magical thinking, and worse.
I believe the term is "cognitive dissonance".
| 356 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:13:55am |
re: #353 lawhawk
So, I'm awakened this morning bright and early by the sound of leaf blowers and tree shredders.
The sounds of recovery never sounded so good.
PSE&G crews were busy working on the lines a couple of blocks away. They had to install new poles and then restring and had been working at 9pm when I drove past. Wonder how far along they are this morning.
We're talking about a 500 foot stretch of line btw. They're more than 24 hours on that segment.
That might get a few hundred homes back on - or 50. I'm not really sure. But when you multiply that by the thousands of trees down on lines and the thousands of poles that need to be replaced and restrung, you begin to get an idea of the magnitude of the damage to the power utilities here.
AWESOME!
| 358 |
KronoGhazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:19:29am |
Dealing with the Sequestration Lockheed Election hoax.
Mouthbreathing hoaxification seems to be our new national pastime.
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Eventual Carrion Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:21:34am |
re: #323 Dane38
Well.. interrupting the speaker by yelling and raising banners with a different political agenda, isn´t part of the event is it?
I think it is an ignorant way of campaigning.
LIAR!
| 360 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:24:35am |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:26:59am |
Usually, when I lose something, I clean til' I find it.
I really don't want to clean-up my files in order to find this .jpg.
I restarted the computer. I checked the file path. I've printed the pic.
I'm lost and out of ideas. This has never happened before. I created it in Photoshop. Saved it as usual, and it will not show up in Finder. I can't find it to upload it.
Maybe I should take a bath. That usually helps.
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lawhawk Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:27:42am |
And the MTA continues doing a heroic job in restoring subway service. The 4,5,6 is now running into Lower Manhattan and Brooklyn beginning today.
[Link: alert.mta.info...]
That's huge.
| 363 |
ghazidor Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:28:21am |
re: #351 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Yesssss it has begun, our youth army is at last on the rise, soon the FEMA
detention campseducational centers will sprout up across the country.
Bwahahahahaha!!!Freepers freak out of course....
The part of all this the freepers are missing is that it is only 231 people who after a couple of months of training will then spend the next ten months working for FEMA as paid interns for on the job training. They will then go on to college or work or whatever it is they decide to do, but will have the emergency management training to help out locally in future natural disasters.
We are are only talking about a few hundred people a year being trained/working for that year and the idiots make it sound like FEMA is raising a private army. So what, at the end of ten years FEMA will have trained maybe 3000 people? That is what the Freepers are scared of?
| 364 |
darthstar Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:28:54am |
re: #361 Gretchen G.Tiger
Usually, when I lose something, I clean til' I find it.
I really don't want to clean-up my files in order to find this .jpg.
I restarted the computer. I checked the file path. I've printed the pic.
I'm lost and out of ideas. This has never happened before. I created it in Photoshop. Saved it as usual, and it will not show up in Finder. I can't find it to upload it.
Maybe I should take a bath. That usually helps.
If you printed it, just scan it back in.
| 365 |
Four More Tears Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:31:43am |
re: #361 Gretchen G.Tiger
Sort by most recently added?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:32:18am |
re: #364 darthstar
If you printed it, just scan it back in.
eh, good idea, but my scanner sucks.
and I shouldn't have to. The file is there, somewhere.
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KronoGhazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:32:29am |
"What happened in Benghazi is an example of the triumph of leftist ideology over common sense." ow.ly/eZyi9— PJ Media (@PJMedia_com) November 3, 2012
| 368 |
darthstar Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:32:44am |
re: #336 ausador
Well this is different. Beware of the...
Love this line!
Those who bought the mushrooms are mostly religious people but not saved (S D A's and Catholics),
Reminds me of when I went to a Baptist high school for a year and people found out I was Catholic. All my classmates (and teachers) repeatedly told me I was an idol worshipper destined for Hell. Catholics weren't bad...they just weren't 'saved'...fucking hilarious.
| 369 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:33:28am |
re: #365 Mocking Jay
Sort by most recently added?
tried that too.
I'll try again. and check the path again.
Part of the problem, I think is that I have a removable drive for my pictures. I don't know how that is a problem, but it seems to be.
The other ones I did at the same time show up. Just 3 that aren't.
| 370 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:34:06am |
re: #368 darthstar
Love this line!
Reminds me of when I went to a Baptist high school for a year and people found out I was Catholic. All my classmates (and teachers) repeatedly told me I was an idol worshipper destined for Hell. Catholics weren't bad...they just weren't 'saved'...fucking hilarious.
Did you tell them that the only hell was the one they created on Earth?
| 371 |
KronoGhazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:36:58am |
What the hell?
Don't let the secret out now, but if your party loses next week, you will be liquidated along with the other 100 million or so of your kind— Michael B Dougherty (@michaelbd) November 3, 2012
| 374 |
Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:39:28am |
re: #340 Romantic Heretic
French works for me. Plus ca change, plus ca meme chose.
This sort of thing has happened a lot in history. The world changes and people who don't want change to happen go insane. They start indulging in magical thinking, and worse.
Just for the record, it's " . . . plus c'est la même chose."
/ pédant
| 375 |
darthstar Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:42:51am |
re: #370 Gretchen G.Tiger
Did you tell them that the only hell was the one they created on Earth?
Nah...I was a naive kid who thought God was gracious and 'love thy neighbor' would win the day. They cured me of believing in that bullshit by the end of the year though.
| 376 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:43:25am |
| 377 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:44:43am |
I've resigned myself that my path is set regardless of the results of the election. The theocrats and misogynists are going away. I'll be finding a way to be more politically active in that regard.
| 378 |
Varek Raith Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:45:10am |
Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi.
-Benghazi.
| 379 |
Ben G. Hazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:47:16am |
re: #371 Kronocide
What the hell?
[Embedded content]
This ought to tell anyone what they need to know about this choad:
Michael B Dougherty
@michaelbdNational Correspondent, The American Conservative. Writer seen in ESPN Magazine, NYT Magazine, Business Insider and other fine publications. Wigwam consultant
Also, this:
@jneeley You guys have been working on becoming Mexico North for a long time. Not a secret.— Michael B Dougherty (@michaelbd) November 3, 2012
These bloodthirsty clowns seem to want insurrection, so they have an excuse to use deadly force.
| 380 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:48:08am |
| 381 |
Four More Tears Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:48:23am |
re: #378 Varek Raith
Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi.
-Benghazi.
But what about Benghazi?
| 382 |
Four More Tears Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:48:36am |
| 383 |
ghazidor Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:48:45am |
See? Who says misogyny can't be funny too?
Yes, this is really the conundrum most men face. We simply don’t have time for the effort required to keep a woman in a constant state of arousal/sexual satisfaction. It’s why marriage became such a widespread institution. Marriage formalized submission/dominance, and consequently freed men’s time up for more constructive pursuits than herding females.
Unintentionally...
| 384 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:49:31am |
re: #375 darthstar
Nah...I was a naive kid who thought God was gracious and 'love thy neighbor' would win the day. They cured me of believing in that bullshit by the end of the year though.
"love they neighbor" will win your day --you'll have fewer health problems and get along better in life. One must use logic and reason when exercising the "love they neighbor" muscle, of course.
| 385 |
lawhawk Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:50:02am |
More on subway recovery: D, F, M, J across East River will all be restored later today, Cuomo announces.
That means that nearly all Lower Manhattan access will have been restored except the A, C, E.
L train is still off - tunnel was flooded floor to ceiling.
| 386 |
Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:50:24am |
re: #379 MittDoesNotCompute
This ought to tell anyone what they need to know about this choad:
Also, this:
[Embedded content]
A real brainiac too. Sends a Tweet to some person with one follower and hasn't Tweeted since 2008.
| 387 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:50:24am |
re: #382 Mocking Jay
Orange.
Really? I thought I got the colors to meld better in the pink one.
is this a personal preference (man-thing) about pink?
| 389 |
Four More Tears Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:51:05am |
re: #387 Gretchen G.Tiger
Really? I thought I got the colors to meld better in the pink one.
is this a personal preference (man-thing) about pink?
Nope. Orange just feels warmer.
| 390 |
Mattand Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:52:14am |
re: #348 dragonath
Oh my, the website is pure gold:
[Link: www.freeinthelordministries.com...]
In 2006 a man came to a S.C. Nazarene church to display his puppets which he claimed were used to teach Jesus Christ to young children. I took issue with the pastor and was told simply “it does not matter, there is nothing wrong with puppets and magicians in the church when used to teach children about biblical principles, etc” What really is involved is trickery and deceit, which can cause a child to become deceived and take on a spirit of spiritual dullness. Demons love puppets. What appears to be innocent is the very thing Satan and his demons use getting to children and start them on a path to deception and acceptance of deeper demonic issues later on.
Holy shit shit shit shit
Don't mock this pastor; this is a serious problem.
| 391 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:54:09am |
re: #390 Mattand
Holy shit shit shit shit
Don't mock this pastor; this is a serious problem.
It's difficult not to mock sock
| 392 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:56:08am |
2. choad
Choad, also spelt chode, is a variant of the word choda (penis) which comes from the Hindi word (chodna). Chodna simply means to fuck. The word choad however is what is known as a neologism. This is a word that is newly acknowledged but has not been in circulation long enough or widely enough for its social status to be determined. As it stands, the word choad has three major definitions.
1) A short, fat penis that is wider than it is longer
2) The area between the scrotum/vagina and the anus.
3) A derogatory term used to insult somebody.
1) Ducas has a fat choad.
2) Last night your mom tongued my choad.
3) Quit being such a choad.
| 393 |
Mattand Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:56:24am |
re: #353 lawhawk
So, I'm awakened this morning bright and early by the sound of leaf blowers and tree shredders.
The sounds of recovery never sounded so good.
PSE&G crews were busy working on the lines a couple of blocks away. They had to install new poles and then restring and had been working at 9pm when I drove past. Wonder how far along they are this morning.
We're talking about a 500 foot stretch of line btw. They're more than 24 hours on that segment.
That might get a few hundred homes back on - or 50. I'm not really sure. But when you multiply that by the thousands of trees down on lines and the thousands of poles that need to be replaced and restrung, you begin to get an idea of the magnitude of the damage to the power utilities here.
Good to hear.
Have there been any Curious Lurker updates? Where did she (it is she, right?) live? As I mentioned before, I was under impression it was in the Atlantic City area.
| 394 |
philosophus invidius Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:56:32am |
re: #232 goddamnedfrank
This is for everyone who thought voter fraud was non-existent:
Southern Nevada woman is arrested on suspicion of trying to vote twice
Investigators today arrested a Southern Nevada woman suspected of trying to vote twice this week at two different polling locations.
| 395 |
Mattand Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:59:39am |
re: #394 philosophus invidius
This is for everyone who thought voter fraud was non-existent:
Southern Nevada woman is arrested on suspicion of trying to vote twice
Yeah, the thing with voter fraud in the US is the fraudsters are usually caught quickly like this.
Again, Voter ID is a solution in search of a problem, and to be brutally honest, aimed at keeping minorities from voting Democratic.
So how's your Saturday going?
| 396 |
darthstar Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:59:46am |
re: #394 philosophus invidius
This is for everyone who thought voter fraud was non-existent:
Southern Nevada woman is arrested on suspicion of trying to vote twice
Doesn't count. She's white and Republican. And if she'd been allowed to vote twice, that would have doubled Mitt Romney's share of the Jewish vote in Nevada.
| 397 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:01:03am |
re: #395 Mattand
Yeah, the thing with voter fraud in the US is the fraudsters are usually caught quickly like this.
Again, Voter ID is a solution in search of a problem, and to be brutally honest, aimed at keeping minorities from voting Democratic.
So how's your Saturday going?
I don't get the "voter ID" in leiu of a "National ID".
Republicans want one and Democrats want the other?
Why wouldn't they be the same thing?
| 398 |
Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:02:06am |
re: #395 Mattand
Yeah, the thing with voter fraud in the US is the fraudsters are usually caught quickly like this.
Again, Voter ID is a solution in search of a problem, and to be brutally honest, aimed at keeping minorities from voting Democratic.
So how's your Saturday going?
Would more stringent voter ID requirements have made a difference in this case anyway? She wasn't trying to vote under a false identity.
| 399 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:02:44am |
re: #394 philosophus invidius
This is for everyone who thought voter fraud was non-existent:
Southern Nevada woman is arrested on suspicion of trying to vote twice
re: #396 darthstar
Doesn't count. She's white and Republican. And if she'd been allowed to vote twice, that would have doubled Mitt Romney's share of the Jewish vote in Nevada.
Good Christian, I'm sure --- *spit*
| 400 |
darthstar Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:04:05am |
| 401 |
wheat-dogghazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:04:09am |
re: #348 dragonath
Those demons sure do get around.
But, remember kids, there is only one God and he watches over you day and night.
/
| 402 |
Mattand Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:04:11am |
re: #397 Gretchen G.Tiger
I don't get the "voter ID" in leiu of a "National ID".
Republicans want one and Democrats want the other?
Why wouldn't they be the same thing?
Yeah. This is one case where the Magical Balance Fairy is actually right.
That's why I'm against both. If you can't get a driver's license, there's plenty of other forms of ID. Christ, here in NJ, I just renewed my license and had to pony up 3 other forms to prove who I was; utility bill, diploma, mortgage bill, etc.
National ID is a crock, IMO.
| 403 |
makeitstopghazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:05:25am |
re: #393 Mattand
Good to hear.
Have there been any Curious Lurker updates? Where did she (it is she, right?) live? As I mentioned before, I was under impression it was in the Atlantic City area.
I thought she was from over near Ft. Lee. I remember her talking about coming into NYC from time to time, and she made it sound like she was pretty close to the city.
I really hope she's okay.
| 404 |
philosophus invidius Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:06:07am |
re: #396 darthstar
"There are two important points worth noting in this case," Nevada Secretary of State Ross Miller said. "First, is that as we've said and demonstrated in the past, we take all elections complaints very seriously and investigate them thoroughly. Second, this demonstrates the integrity of the system. Someone thought that by going to two different locations they'd be able to cast two ballots. The system immediately caught that, the Task Force responded, and an arrest was made."
Of course the 3rd important point worth noting is that she's a white Republican. (I wouldn't assume she's Jewish.)
| 405 |
darthstar Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:06:35am |
re: #402 Mattand
National ID is a crock, IMO.
And there's only one clerk processing the forms! I'm not getting in line behind three hundred million people and waiting.
| 406 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:06:54am |
re: #402 Mattand
Yeah. This is one case where the Magical Balance Fairy is actually right.
That's why I'm against both. If you can't get a driver's license, there's plenty of other forms of ID. Christ, here in NJ, I just renewed my license and had to pony up 3 other forms to prove who I was; utility bill, diploma, mortgage bill, etc.
National ID is a crock, IMO.
Getting a State ID for my parents when the moved to ILL was a joke. I took them back 3 times with what I thought was the right ID and finally had to scream for a manager. I mean an 84 year man with his army discharge papers????? Manager was kool. I understand why they have to be so strict--especially here in IL, where we have an eternal "pay to play' scandal going on.
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:08:22am |
Hahaha!
minus the 2K dead......; RT @stulevitan @ericboehlert I assume you heard Hannity called Sandy "Obama's Katrina, which is it" last night.— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) November 3, 2012
Right wingers.
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Mattand Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:08:47am |
re: #398 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne
Would more stringent voter ID requirements have made a difference in this case anyway? She wasn't trying to vote under a false identity.
From what I'm reading, this really isn't a problem, and every case you read about the perp is nailed fairly quickly.
For the nearly 30 years (ugh) I've been voting, I'm required to sign a voter roll. At least here, you have to be a master calligrapher to vote as someone else.
And quite frankly, only Republicans and conservatives are pushing this. Given the maniacal radicalism that masquerades as policy for these guys lately, you have to be immediately suspicious of their ulterior motives.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:08:49am |
re: #405 darthstar
And there's only one clerk processing the forms! I'm not getting in line behind three hundred million people and waiting.
And there is the States Right's issue. Why do Republican's want a Voter ID? Is it to be issued by the Feds or the States?
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:09:22am |
Rudy Giuliani: Obama Should Resign colm.es/Tn0BH6 #thanktheliberals— Alan Colmes (@AlanColmes) November 3, 2012
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darthstar Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:09:42am |
re: #404 philosophus invidius
Of course the 3rd important point is that she's a white Republican. (I wouldn't assume she's Jewish.)
True...she could just be a sandwich. (Don't think she is Jewish, just playing on the name. She tried to vote twice. Probably a teabagger.)
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:09:57am |
Anyone that wants to play nice with Republicans is on the wrong track.
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Mich-again Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:10:59am |
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Mattand Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:12:36am |
re: #412 Gus
Anyone that wants to play nice with Republicans is on the wrong track.
True. At least this guy in PA was honest about it.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:12:41am |
I'm still going to take a bath.
Have a great morning all!
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Mattand Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:13:29am |
re: #415 Gretchen G.Tiger
I'm still going to take a bath.
Have a great morning all!
My advice: use water. Don't ask me how I found out the hard way.
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:15:26am |
re: #414 Mattand
True. At least this guy in PA was honest about it.
We'll see. If Obama wins Pennsylvania that will be egg in their lousy faces.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:16:49am |
Morning Lizardim. How go things in the great war on derp?
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:17:10am |
re: #416 Mattand
My advice: use water. Don't ask me how I found out the hard way.
Yeah. I went over to the local Home Depot and took a bath. Right when I was out the door with the bath I was surrounded by store security. They weren't very happy.
//
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:17:39am |
re: #418 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too
Morning Lizardim. How go things in the great war on derp?
100 million dead. Liquidated right after the election!
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:18:35am |
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:19:42am |
re: #421 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too
re: #420 Gus
So it's THAT kind of morning. Guess it's a good thing I had my orange juice.
See [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:20:29am |
In right-wing world Sandy is Obama's Katrina and Benghazi is worse than 9/11.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:20:50am |
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Mattand Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:21:41am |
re: #417 Gus
We'll see. If Obama wins Pennsylvania that will be egg in their lousy faces.
IIRC, PA suspended the ID requirement for this election. The kicker is that they're still allowed to ask you if you have it; if you say "no", they can't prevent you from voting.
In addition, the GOP-dominated state government has been really slow to correct misinformation on their official sites. Plus, there have been billboards throughout Philly, some in Spanish, implying you need ID to vote or you'll go to jail. Most of these are from independent conservative groups; aka, evil motherfuckers.
Racehl Maddow has been all over this. It's amazing what the GOP is willing to do steal this election.
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Mattand Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:22:18am |
re: #418 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too
Morning Lizardim. How go things in the great war on derp?
Slow and eternal.
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philosophus invidius Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:22:36am |
re: #410 Gus
Did Obama really say he wouldn't run again if unemployment were above six percent? That doesn't sound right.
Giuliani claimed he did in that video, and then said that Obama "lied" about that.
I'm not sure that that would count as a lie, even he's right about what Obama said. But in any case, it's pretty rich coming from someone stumping for the lyingist Presidential candidate ever.
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Mattand Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:23:58am |
re: #427 philosophus invidius
Did Obama really say he wouldn't run again if unemployment were above six percent? That doesn't sound right.
Giuliani claimed he did in that video, and then said that Obama "lied" about that.
I'm not sure that that would count as a lie, even he's right about what Obama said. But in any case, it's pretty rich coming from someone stumping for the lyingist Presidential candidate ever.
I'm heading for Snopes on that one, but it's got the stink of urban legend all over it.
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:24:20am |
re: #427 philosophus invidius
Did Obama really say he wouldn't run again if unemployment were above six percent? That doesn't sound right.
Giuliani claimed he did in that video, and then said that Obama "lied" about that.
I'm not sure that that would count as a lie, even he's right about what Obama said. But in any case, it's pretty rich coming from someone stumping for the lyingist Presidential candidate ever.
Giuliani is a dick. Always was.
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:25:56am |
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:26:08am |
re: #425 Mattand
It's amazing what the GOP is willing to do steal this election.
Part of me admires their tenacity, because many of them sincerely believe that they are right and that Obama will destroy America. The problem is, that sincere belief is severely misplaced.
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philosophus invidius Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:28:31am |
re: #429 Gus
Giuliani is a dick. Always was.
It sounds like he's twisting Obama's well-known comment about the possibility of a "one term proposition" if he didn't turn the economy around--or something to that effect.
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wrenchwench Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:30:12am |
re: #374 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne
Just for the record, it's " . . . plus c'est la même chose."
/ pédant
How many languages do you pedanticize in? I count three so far.
And yes, I neologismed and dangled that participle on purpose.
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:30:32am |
re: #430 Varek Raith
They wish.
Exactly. Shorter Sean Hannity: I want Sandy to be a government disaster just like it was in Katrina. That's how diabolical they are. The same group of people that wished for "another Pearl Harbor" to "bring America back together." Those same PNAC whackos.
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ghazidor Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:32:21am |
Rick Joyner complains about all the treasonous persecution of Christians that the government is doing...uhh, getting ready to do...uhh, planning to do someday.
There are many ways that our federal government has overreached and has brazenly done what the Constitution forbids. In most of these, you can see an obvious agenda of suppressing Christianity. The same Constitution that forbids Congress from establishing religion also prohibits it from hindering its free exercise. I’m often asked if I think Christians in America will suffer persecution, and my response is that it has been happening for a long time. If our present trajectory is not changed, we can expect it to soon become official state policy. Right now it is unofficial state policy.
Under the present administration, there have been a number of ways that the ground is being laid for a far more serious persecution against Christians in America. Some of this is coming through legislation such as the “hate crimes” legislation that specifically targets Christians. Some is coming through attempts to subject Americans to international laws and the U.N. resolutions, another very blatant violation of the Constitution. Article 6 declares that the Constitution will be “the supreme law of the land.” To subject Americans to any law other than our Constitution would therefore be a basic attack on the Constitution.
Because every elected or appointed official of our government has to take a vow to defend the Constitution from enemies both foreign and domestic, those who are promoting these agendas are leading us to a very serious constitutional crisis and could even be considered treason.
If Hate Crime laws target Christians then they must not be acting very much like Christians should, correct?
(I know, I know...it is just them trying to scare the rubes into believing they are "hate speech" laws)
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philosophus invidius Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:36:30am |
If you live in NY, you can now get your Obama gas:
[Link: www.nypost.com...]
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ghazidor Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:40:57am |
re: #407 Gus
Hahaha!
[Link: twitter.com...]
Right wingers.
First and last time you will ever see wingnuts "sympathize" with the people living on Staten island.
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Mattand Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:42:05am |
re: #436 philosophus invidius
If you live in NY, you can now get your Obama gas:
[Link: www.nypost.com...]
Like conservatives need any more fuel for their psychosis.
I got into a huge argument with a FB troll who started the comments by saying Obama was only involved with Sandy for political gain. He then followed that up with a class warfare accusation.
It's funny how it never occurs to conservatives that maybe Obama looked at Katrina and said "You know, let's do the opposite of that response."
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:43:00am |
re: #437 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
First and last time you will ever see wingnuts "sympathize" with the people living on Staten island.
That would be ironic considering SI is chockful of wingnuts.
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philosophus invidius Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:44:25am |
re: #438 Mattand
They will attack either way:
Use federal resources: politicizing! giving away our taxpayer money!
Don't use federal resources: Obama's Katrina!
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Girth Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:49:50am |
re: #433 wrenchwench
And yes, I neologismed and dangled that participle on purpose.
That sounds dirty.
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wrenchwench Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:52:22am |
re: #441 Girth
That sounds dirty.
I knew someone would see it that way.
because I thought so too, but I posted it anyway....
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ghazidor Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:52:33am |
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wrenchwench Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:57:06am |
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:02:44am |
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ghazidor Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:04:44am |
Besides which those people were not supposed to be on Staten Island in the first place, they were ordered to evacuate. Now they complain because no one brought them food for three days, why did they stay if they had no supplies?
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:05:16am |
re: #447 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Besides which those people were not supposed to be on Staten Island in the first place, they were ordered to evacuate. Now they complain because no one brought them food for three days, why did they stay if they had no supplies?
Benghazi.
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jaunte Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:05:29am |
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ghazidor Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:10:01am |
re: #449 jaunte
They had a big pray-for-rain event in Texas, and a year later it rained!
It's a Miracle!
Hallelujah!
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:11:41am |
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:16:32am |
re: #452 Varek Raith
Fox News and its viewers are beyond hope. Rivera, Colmes, etc., can say these things 1000 times over at Fox News and the end result will always be a bunch of wingnut trolling and knuckle dragging.
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:18:30am |
You will laugh. twitter.com/EdFocus/status...— Bonnie Lesley (@EdFocus) September 5, 2012
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:21:24am |
It's getting cold out there. Finding a warming center - free & open to anyone - near you: nyc.gov/html/misc/html...— NYC Mayor's Office (@NYCMayorsOffice) November 3, 2012
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The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:23:36am |
They insisted there was no viable military option to disrupt what amounted to a series of sporadic attacks in a crowded city full of people sympathetic to the U.S. There were no armed drones in the region and airstrikes were not called for, officials said.
"Let's say we were able to get an aircraft there. Do you go in and start strafing a populated area without knowing where friend or foe is?" a senior Defense official asked. "If you did that, you could kill the very people you are trying to help."
In wingnut land, this is the problem: America-fuck-yeah-ism dictates that you bomb the brown people mercilessly and indiscriminately, for none of them are really our friends.
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:24:14am |
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jaunte Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:24:31am |
GOP canvassers in King County, WA will totally take your ballot and deliver it for you, no problem is.gd/AFBkqf
— Jess Zimmerman (@j_zimms) November 3, 2012
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:26:54am |
re: #458 jaunte
[Embedded content]
Ok...
So they're trying to steal the election...
In Washington?
As is bluer than blue Washington?
Derp.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:28:18am |
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:29:52am |
re: #456 The Ghost of a Flea
In wingnut land, this is the problem: America-fuck-yeah-ism dictates that you bomb the brown people mercilessly and indiscriminately, for none of them are really our friends.
These are the same people that wanted to keep everything a secret during the Bush years. If anything happened, all Bush had to say was something to the effect of "due to security concerns we are unable to disclose events until further notice." Then all the wingnut minions would nod in agreement and "hurr hurr" their way into acceptance of this security decree. Any persons demanding such answers were immediately labeled as being traitors or treasonous and siding with the terrorists.
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philosophus invidius Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:31:50am |
Dick Morris:
Nobody really knows what the impact of hurricane Sandy will be on the election. Until its waves crashed into the New Jersey shore, the election was well in hand for the Romney campaign.
But
We are still likely to win.
From Morris, that's practically a concession that they are about to lose big time.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
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HappyBenghazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:34:30am |
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:34:44am |
re: #462 philosophus invidius
Dick Morris:
But
From Morris, that's practically a concession that they are about to lose big time.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
The Wrongest Man in the World.
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jaunte Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:35:14am |
re: #462 philosophus invidius
And this:
...Ryan's biggest boosters realize he probably can write his own ticket, win or lose on Nov. 6.
These Ryan allies spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private proposals they were preparing for him. They insist Ryan is not worried about anything beyond the election and is not planning anything except being a governing partner to Romney.
They say that if he fails, Ryan's instincts will be to return to the House – he is running for re-election to his House seat at the same time he's Romney's running mate – and resume his role as Budget Committee chairman.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:36:06am |
Anyone remember that Drudge campaign sex scandal bombshell?
Yeah, neither do I.
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allegro Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:36:37am |
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:36:57am |
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Romantic Heretic Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:37:15am |
re: #374 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne
Just for the record, it's " . . . plus c'est la même chose."
/ pédant
Merci beaucoup.
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:38:56am |
re: #468 Varek Raith
What?
Started with this derpishness.
So what's been missing... SEX!Looks like at least one campaign about to be hit with an expose on DIRT THURSDAY. [Bush DUI 12 yrs ago]— MATT DRUDGE (@DRUDGE) November 1, 2012
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Iwouldprefernotto Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:39:30am |
re: #468 Varek Raith
What?
I'm still waiting for the October surprise.... From 2008. Hear it's going to be a bombshell.
OT Am I the only person on LGF that wants to smack Drudge?
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HappyBenghazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:40:19am |
Seems to me Drudge is the boy who cried wolf come to life.
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:41:43am |
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:42:56am |
Ha! Former Republican governor of NH just stormed off from appearing on MSNBC because they were playing part of the president's speech. Judd Gregg.
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wrenchwench Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:43:10am |
Cher & Kathy Griffin On Mitt Romney: "This is CHER, bitches! Do what she says!" bit.ly/YASie8— JoeMyGod (@JoeMyGod) November 3, 2012
click through, watch the vid.
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HappyBenghazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:44:08am |
re: #475 Gus
Ha! Former Republican governor of NH just stormed off from appearing on MSNBC because they were playing part of the president's speech. Judd Gregg.
He was a senator too. I remember Obama wanted him as Secretary of Commerce but Gregg turned it down.
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The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:44:35am |
re: #446 Varek Raith
Why don't they all pray for world peace and stuff?
re: #467 allegro
No profit in it.
Creepier than that. US Fundies, whose Bible interpretation is heavily seeded with JBS ideas, really, truly, believe that any modern attempt to be a peacemaker is really an attempt to create a violent anti-Christian world government.
War is what god wants, since it's an ongoing sign that the Apocalypse is on the way.
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wrenchwench Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:45:08am |
re: #475 Gus
Ha! Former Republican governor of NH just stormed off from appearing on MSNBC because they were playing part of the president's speech. Judd Gregg.
The RWNJs are really on edge. I noticed above that they can't even wait until after the election to flounce.
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:46:17am |
re: #479 wrenchwench
The RWNJs are really on edge. I noticed above that they can't even wait until after the election to flounce.
Flounce? As in a lizard flounce?
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:46:40am |
re: #475 Gus
Ha! Former Republican governor of NH just stormed off from appearing on MSNBC because they were playing part of the president's speech. Judd Gregg.
Breaking News: Judd Gregg taken to hospital in a Waaambulance.
More at 6.
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:47:08am |
re: #477 HappyWarrior
He was a senator too. I remember Obama wanted him as Secretary of Commerce but Gregg turned it down.
Thanks. I forgot about that.
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HappyBenghazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:47:26am |
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makeitstopghazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:47:30am |
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:47:54am |
Wow. Mic'd up ex-Sen Judd Gregg just bailed on his @alexwitt interview bc "he didn't want to sit and listen to the president." @msnbc #p2— Joy Reid (@TheReidReport) November 3, 2012
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ghazidor Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:48:12am |
re: #480 Gus
Flounce? As in a lizard flounce?
See #268
Oops it isn't there anymore, wonder how that could have happened?
/
Edit: make that #286, stupid fingers....
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:50:10am |
re: #486 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
See #268
Oops it isn't there anymore, wonder how that could have happened?
/
Edited?
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makeitstopghazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:51:33am |
re: #479 wrenchwench
The RWNJs are really on edge. I noticed above that they can't even wait until after the election to flounce.
Their immediate future is coming into focus, and they're unable to deal.
Wingnut tears. Delicious.
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:51:42am |
re: #486 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
See #268
Oops it isn't there anymore, wonder how that could have happened?
/
286.
Karma: 333
right_wing2
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KronoGhazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:51:49am |
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:52:20am |
re: #490 Varek Raith
286.
Karma: 333
right_wing2
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No. of comments posted: 971
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Threw out a Captain Teleprompter thing.
XD
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HappyBenghazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:53:01am |
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:53:14am |
re: #490 Varek Raith
286.
Karma: 333
right_wing2
This user is blocked.
Registered since: Apr 11, 2007 at 5:50 pm
No. of comments posted: 971
No. of Pages posted: 9
Ah. 286 not 268. Tanks.
Looks like a sleeper no more!
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Ben G. Hazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:53:46am |
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ghazidor Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:53:58am |
re: #488 Gus
Edited?
Deleted by Charles...
Obi named it the Teleprompter flounce, since he mentioned Obama using a teleprompter like 5 times in his rant. Same old weak sauce straw men...nothing surprising.
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:55:03am |
Captain Benghazi Teleprompter Gay Kenyan Usurper!
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makeitstopghazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:55:05am |
re: #493 HappyWarrior
Teleprompter joke? That is so 2008.
They got nothing new. The poor Benghazi meme was found in an alley this morning, beaten nearly beyond recognition.
Next, they'll tell us how Obama doesn't have the experience to be president.
/
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Four More Tears Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:55:30am |
Elderly need to know why Fox wants to keep talking about Ben-Gay...
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HappyBenghazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:55:45am |
Honestly if I were running for any kind of public office, I'd use a teleprompter too. I've never gotten why this is supposed to be "Oh my God Obama's an idiot" especially when every modern politician uses one. And from what I've read about some of our founders like Jefferson's public speaking abilities. I am sure they would have liked to had something like that in their day too.
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:55:47am |
re: #497 Varek Raith
Captain Benghazi Teleprompter Gay Kenyan Usurper!
I think you mean Captain Benghazi Teleprompter Gay Atheist Muslim Kenyan Usurper.
//
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:55:51am |
re: #498 makeitstop
They got nothing new. The poor Benghazi meme was found in an alley this morning, beaten nearly beyond recognition.
Next, they'll tell us how Obama doesn't have the experience to be president.
/
Oh yeah, I'm using Benghazi as often as I can.
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jaunte Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:56:29am |
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:56:40am |
Captain Benghazi Teleprompter Gay Atheist Muslim Kenyan Crony Capitalist Anticolonialist
N'derp.
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KronoGhazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:58:31am |
OK, maybe there is hope for humans.
SFPD relying on citizens with cameras
Jackwad gets video taped throwing a barrier into a bus windshield after SF won the World Series. Police nab him in two days.
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KronoGhazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:59:51am |
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HappyBenghazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 10:01:48am |
Obama canvassers just stopped by. Pretty impressed with the GOTV operation I've seen from the Obama campaign both years.
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KronoGhazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 10:03:17am |
Actually, tow days works for cops nabbed him In Tow Days = 2.
Yah, a stretch.
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ghazidor Sat, Nov 3, 2012 10:04:09am |
re: #501 Gus
I think you mean Captain Benghazi Teleprompter Gay Atheist Muslim Kenyan Usurper.
//
Which is funny considering how well their last guy did without a teleprompter...
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HappyBenghazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 10:05:56am |
re: #513 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Which is funny considering how well their last guy did without a teleprompter...
[Embedded content]
But who can argue with that genuine frontier gibberish.
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KronoGhazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 10:07:00am |
Suiciders is still the Bushism To End All Bushisms.
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 10:08:54am |
Using the Libya attacks as a political football is disgusting. And it turns out, unprecedented. fb.me/1sQwTPQpz— Milt Shook (@MiltShook) November 3, 2012
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ghazidor Sat, Nov 3, 2012 10:10:36am |
Anybody else first hear "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me" on Gomer Pyle USMC?
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KronoGhazi Sat, Nov 3, 2012 10:14:06am |
re: #518 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Anybody else first hear "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me" on Gomer Pyle USMC?
Benghazi. Obama Eats Dogs. Teleprompter.
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Gus Sat, Nov 3, 2012 10:14:19am |
re: #518 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Anybody else first hear "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me" on Gomer Pyle USMC?
Now that you mention it.
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S.D. Sat, Nov 3, 2012 10:36:25am |
I Love the USA: I have family that served in it's Armed Forces, I got my degree from City University, and I've participated in Voter Registration drives.
I've also disagreed with people politically but at no point did I EVER chant "USA!, USA!, USA!" to imply that people I disagree with are somehow against the USA...
Especially when people are referring to Scientific Fact.
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kerFuFFler Sat, Nov 3, 2012 10:50:30am |
re: #21 The Ghost of a Flea
Exactly spot on about the Lysenkoism!
The crowd seems like it is now ready for a Two Minutes Hate!
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Sat, Nov 3, 2012 11:24:19am |
re: #433 wrenchwench
How many languages do you pedanticize in? I count three so far.
And yes, I neologismed and dangled that participle on purpose.
English, French and Latin are pretty much the only languages I'm comfortable enough with to be pedantic about (well, maybe also Klingon, but the less said about that the better). I have a middling reading knowledge of a couple of others.
I don't mind "pedanticize" too much, but I'm not sure about "I neologismed". It just doesn't sound like something you should be doing in polite company.
You didn't dangle a participle; you ended a sentence with a preposition. I don't object to that (and you'll notice that I do it too). IMHO the whole stricture against ending sentences with prepositions is such weapons-grade pedantry that I hope never to succumb to it.
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Sat, Nov 3, 2012 11:26:40am |
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wrenchwench Sat, Nov 3, 2012 12:53:15pm |
re: #523 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne
IMHO the whole stricture against ending sentences with prepositions is such weapons-grade pedantry that I hope never to succumb to it.
Good to see that. I like reasonable pedantry.
Related:
Curiously, our bonehead Nazis don't make grammar much of a priority.— Shit Germans Say (@ShitGermansSay) November 3, 2012
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lostlakehiker Sat, Nov 3, 2012 5:00:30pm |
re: #523 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne
English, French and Latin are pretty much the only languages I'm comfortable enough with to be pedantic about (well, maybe also Klingon, but the less said about that the better). I have a middling reading knowledge of a couple of others.
I don't mind "pedanticize" too much, but I'm not sure about "I neologismed". It just doesn't sound like something you should be doing in polite company.
You didn't dangle a participle; you ended a sentence with a preposition. I don't object to that (and you'll notice that I do it too). IMHO the whole stricture against ending sentences with prepositions is such weapons-grade pedantry that I hope never to succumb to it.
The best rejoinder is often attributed to Churchill, though he may not actually have made it.
The earliest citation of the story that I've found so far in newspaper databases is from 1942, without any reference to Churchill:
The Wall Street Journal, 30 Sep 1942 ("Pepper and Salt"): When a memorandum passed round a certain Government department, one young pedant scribbled a postscript drawing attention to the fact that the sentence ended with a preposition, which caused the original writer to circulate another memorandum complaining that the anonymous postscript was "offensive impertinence, up with which I will not put." —The Strand Magazine.
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Dane38 Mon, Nov 5, 2012 8:44:15am |
Ok so now an Obama rally has been disrupted again!
Still ok with that kind of behaviour???
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