Why I’m Voting Against Mitt Romney

Tomorrow I’ll tell you why I am voting FOR President Obama
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There are many reasons I’m voting Democrat this election but prime among them is that Mitt Romney has no core, no soul, no integrity. There are many words that you would never apply to him after his several years of unsuccessful campaigning, but chief among them are the words “courageous,” “consistent,” “principled,” “honest,” and least of all “caring.”

Instead you can see him lie every day, blandly smiling and glad-handing the crowds as he puts another baldfaced whopper across. You have to wonder if he’s chuckling inside and thinking, “I wonder how many of these hapless rubes bought that one.”

There’s nothing worse than frat boy weasels who lie to your face knowing that they are lying, knowing full well that you see through their lie. It doesn’t matter if they are trying to sell a junker off a used car lot or running for president, most people can smell them coming — but others seem defenseless against their toothsome grins. Anytime that Mitt has seemed to say something solid on the campaign trail, the next day he sends his staff out to walk it back, since he seems not to have the spine required to retract it in person, or to stand for something specific himself.

Maybe you’ve been willing to accept the lies because Romney’s a “member of the GOP team,” or because you hate our current President — but politics is not a sport, and you need to be bigger than just a rooter for your team. The US can’t afford another second generation elitist sliming their way into office, not here, not now, as the economy is just recovering from the worst recession since the great depression. We don’t need more of the same deregulation, the same laissez faire, “who cares about all those bad loans” attitudes at the helm. We certainly don’t need a president who has so little faith in our country that he off-shores most of his money made after years of off-shoring our jobs and dumping insolvent and Bain debt-saddled companies into bankruptcy.

Almost worse than Romney are the people who would come into power with himWe don’t need a president who thinks 47 percent of us don’t matter, because the president is elected to serve everyone, not just the people who financed their campaign or who voted for them.

Almost worse than Romney are the people who would come into power with him, as the reactionary fundamentalist wing of the party is in full control of the GOP right now. With Mitt, we would get people from the clash of civilizations crowd (like John Bolton), who won’t rest until they get us into another world economy-wrecking war. Anti-science blustering blowhards for the oil companies and religious right, like Joe Barton and Todd Akin, are clinging tightly to his coat tails, and we sure don’t need “strict Bible constructionists” on the Supreme Court either.

We really can’t afford another anti-science administration — the world is changing much too fast and our children’s futures are entirely dependent our ability to adapt and foster new technologies. Mitt would bring a whole crowd of reactionary Luddites with him.

I can’t vote for Mitt as well because of his stance on gay marriage, I can’t vote for him because of his stance against women’s rights, I can’t vote for him because of all the misogynist cavemen that he would bring with him were he to win. And I can’t vote for him because there’s a chance that the Senate could flip this year, and I think we need checks and balances. The GOP in full control of all branches of government is the prime ingredient in a recipe for future disasters.

Most of all, I can’t vote for Mitt because there’s nothing behind the bluster and puff: he’s just a spoiled pile of meringue whipped together from bile and the last century’s GOP bumper stickers.

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156 comments
1 researchok  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:35:57pm

I don't agree with everything here but you do make a good case.

Romney is a less than desirable candidate.

The GOP has a long way to go if he is the best they've got.

2 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:22:26pm

So who is voting for Romney? I'd love to hear those guys make that case.

3 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:27:41pm

Promoted! Great post, Randall.

4 Obdicut  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:29:19pm

Basically the same for me. Romney has three strikes against him that each individually would make him reprehensible.

1. He'd be 'delighted' to ban all abortion in the US. He'll appoint SC judges that feel the same way.

2. He thinks corporations are people. Capitalism only works with significant government regulation. He's drunk the Ayn Rand juice.

3. He's anti-science in a number of areas. Jabbering about cold fusion? Saying it's not his duty to help stem AGW? Etc. etc. Science is the wellspring of prosperity, not to mention military dominance. The US cannot take another anti-science presidency. We have already lost serious ground to Europe and Japan. We cannot afford more.

5 engineer cat  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:30:09pm

Why I'm Voting Against Romney

which one?

6 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:34:18pm

On the same theme here's my post from a couple of days ago:

For me this election boils down to two incredibly basic value issues:

1.) Integrity. Even Romney's staunchest supporter here admits he's a liar who stands for nothing but his own desire to be President. I don't understand how anybody could think a person with no personal integrity should hold that office, the entire idea is just completely anathema to how I view the entire concept and purpose of leadership. If the guy can't be trusted then it's impossible for anybody who holds honesty to be a bedrock value to vote for him.

2.) A fundamental question of civil rights and equality. Even if you don't know many gays there's no excuse for opposing marriage equality. Even if you don't have any real insight into how women think there's no excuse for believing they shouldn't be able to make their own health decisions, be able to control their own bodies, or be paid the same for performing the same job. To my mind this is simply fundamental Golden Rule shit that a decent human being would never even think of compromising. Especially not for some transparently bullshit voodoo economics confidence scam.

7 engineer cat  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:40:31pm

i'll give romney this:

until his umpteenth transformation at the first debate, romney campaigned unashamedly and proudly on the raw survival-of-the-greediest philosophy that all the other r candidates starting with reagan have soft pedalled and concealed

it wasn't until it became pellucidly obvious how unpopular the reality of republican governing philosophy really is with americans that mitt was instructed to impersonate a moderate

8 funky chicken  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:41:05pm

Excellent writing, and 100% agreement on all points from me. I'm shocked so many people will vote for him, especially because of this:

We cerrtainly don’t need a president who has so little faith in our country that he off-shores most of his money made after years of off-shoring our jobs and dumping insolvent and Bain debt-saddled companies into bankruptcy.

I honestly don't get it.

9 SteelGHAZI  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:41:09pm

Prior to his campaign, Romney wasn't much more than a simple blip on the radar for me. But the more and more he exposed himself to the public, the less and less I liked him.

I've never seen a campaign like this before, it's surreal.

10 garhighway  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:41:28pm

The funny thing is that I suspect he really doesn't buy into a lot of the vile positions he's taken in the last few years. but who can tell? Why risk it?

11 jaunte  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:42:06pm

re: #8 funky chicken

That continues to puzzle me too, given the jingoism of some of his most rabid supporters.

12 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:42:51pm

The compulsively lying about personal achievements, personhood-fetishist, worst-of-Ayn-Rand-and-the-Old-Testament-believing, not-at-all-bold-or-serious non-wonk who crapped out a budget plan based on invisible unicorns as vice president also bears mentioning.

13 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:45:19pm

I was born not to vote for Mitt Romney, unconcieved as he was. My great-grandparents migrated to this country from Ireland so they could have a descendant who would vote against Mitt Romney. 13 nuns and a one-legged Army sergeant spent every waking minute teaching me not to vote for Mitt Romney.

(In truth I'm not voting against Mitt Romney at all, just the reactionary bullshit he is fronting in this generation.)

14 engineer cat  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:50:30pm

re: #12 The Ghost of a Flea

The compulsively lying about personal achievements, personhood-fetishist, worst-of-Ayn-Rand-and-the-Old-Testament-believing, not-at-all-bold-or-serious non-wonk who crapped out a budget plan based on invisible unicorns as vice president also bears mentioning.

palin and ryan

is it possible to find two worse candidates to be a heartbeat away?

15 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:53:27pm

re: #13 Decatur Deb

Oh, I am voting against Romney, and so is my entire immediate family. I hate everything he stands for.

16 dragonfire1981  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:54:11pm

re: #7 engineer cat

it wasn't until it became pellucidly obvious how unpopular the reality of republican governing philosophy really is with americans that mitt was instructed reprogrammed to impersonate a moderate

Edited for accuracy. A good number of people I know are voting for Romney primarily because they do not like Obama and not because they specifically favor Romney.

What's disappointing to me is that the GOP had the chance to run a really good campaign against Obama and they made a mess of it. I'm just astounded at the long list of failures by the supposedly professional campaign advisers employed by Romney. I don't think I've ever before seen a campaign have such difficulty getting their act together.

I truly believe if Obama was white, Mitt would be going down in flames.

17 Bubblehead II  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:54:16pm

Bottom line. Why I am not voting for Mitt?

He is a dick.

He wants to fuck me over any way he can and doesn't care if I get any pleasure from it. Nor will He use any protection.

Hey! If I get pregnant or a STD, To bad. I must of being asking for it.

America, If you elect this man, this is the attitude you are going to get.

America, I refuse to be fucked over. RWNJ's, just look at your own comment sections for my response.

Take this as how ever you want to

18 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:54:31pm

re: #15 ProGunLiberal

Oh, I am voting against Romney, and so is my entire immediate family. I hate everything he stands for.

If it weren't him, it would be any of a dozen TPGOP assholes.

19 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:57:51pm

re: #16 dragonfire1981

I truly believe if Obama was white, Mitt would be going down in flames.

This.

20 glnmruser  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 6:58:04pm

I have read, but not posted. I post now to say that you have hit every point that drives my vote. I have really tried to be open this election. I want what is best for this nation, which honestly means whats best for my family. I can't buy what Mitt is selling; its like trying to by a use car with out looking at it, test driving it, or researching it. "Just buy it, its a fair price". With Obama, I see that we will continue to grow back, we are clearly on the road to recovery, and without more information I am not going to give it all to some guy who says " trust me".

21 Varek Raith  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:02:16pm

Ron Paul!

22 engineer cat  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:02:42pm

re: #8 funky chicken

Excellent writing, and 100% agreement on all points from me. I'm shocked so many people will vote for him, especially because of this:

I honestly don't get it.

wingnuts have been taught to believe that the federal gummint is not a democratic republic, but a dictatorship imposed unilaterally by alien inhuman creatures known as 'liberals'

therefore it is patriotic to divert your profits overseas until such time as government by do everything i want and no backtalk missy i paid for this microphone and get a haircut as envisioned by the founding fathers is reestablished

23 efuseakay  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:03:44pm

re: #15 ProGunLiberal

Oh, I am voting against Romney, and so is my entire immediate family. I hate everything he stands for.

Yesterday, today, or tomorrow?

24 jaunte  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:06:50pm
Almost worst than Romney are the people who would come into power with him
25 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:07:54pm

What was that you said about Benghazi?

26 Joanne  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:08:12pm

re: #10 garhighway

The funny thing is that I suspect he really doesn't buy into a lot of the vile positions he's taken in the last few years. but who can tell? Why risk it?

And I think the opposite. I think he does and his time I'm MA was only tempered by a Dem majority who kept the crazy at bay.

27 Majacita  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:09:12pm

I am actually voting for Obama. I voted for Reagan, Bush Sr, and then second term Clinton, because Bob Dole?, and then for Gore, because I knew what W
Bush was as I had activist friends in Texas. I voted against Bush in 04, although I didn't like Kerry at all. I hesitated over McCain and Obama because I liked both men, but couldn't stomach Palin. So I have voted both for and against candidates of both parties. But I find myself supporting Obama in a way I never did any other president. I really do trust him, which I never did any president before. I think he really does care about the country and its people and is doing his best. I think his best is pretty damn good. I find myself being proud of our president in a way I never felt before. He's one of the people and I don't feel taken for granted and I don't feel conned.

28 Gus  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:09:19pm

Why I'm not voting for Mitt Romney.

1. Will nominate conservative judges. Most concerning being SCOTUS.
2. Wants to overturn Roe v. Wade.
3. Wants to defund Planned Parenthood.
4. Wants to overturn Title X.
5. Wants a amndt. defining marriage as between a man and woman.
6. Would enforces/strengthen DOMA.
7. Wants a bloated military.
8. A return to the Mexico City Policy.
9. A return of abstinence only education.
10. Creationist friendly education policies.
11. Social conservatives in the White House.
12. Makes not even a consideration for AGW.
13. Bad for science, stem cell research, etc.
14. Bad for CAFE standards.
...

I can keep going.

29 efuseakay  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:09:20pm

re: #26 Joanne

And I think the opposite. I think he does and his time I'm MA was only tempered by a Dem majority who kept the crazy at bay.

800+ vetoes.

30 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:09:56pm

Who's voting for Mitt Romney?

31 Joanne  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:10:39pm

re: #12 The Ghost of a Flea

I think Ryan is more terrifying because he bullshits better than Mitt. He's a more accomplished liar who is a 12 on the 10 point scale of crazy. Romney is only an 8.

32 Gus  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:10:41pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

Who's voting for Mitt Romney?

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33 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:13:19pm

re: #28 Gus

Why I'm not voting for Mitt Romney.

1. Will nominate conservative judges. Most concerning being SCOTUS.
2. Wants to overturn Roe v. Wade.
3. Wants to defund Planned Parenthood.
4. Wants to overturn Title X.
5. Wants a amndt. defining marriage as between a man and woman.
6. Would enforces/strengthen DOMA.
7. Wants a bloated military.
8. A return to the Mexico City Policy.
9. A return of abstinence only education.
10. Creationist friendly education policies.
11. Social conservatives in the White House.
12. Makes not even a consideration for AGW.
13. Bad for science, stem cell research, etc.
14. Bad for CAFE standards.
...

I can keep going.

In his defense, you can't know for sure that he won't do the opposite of all things. He has promised that at one point or another also, no? ;)

34 Gus  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:13:30pm

No conspiracy theories. No martial law. No mass arrests. No breakdown of free-speech. No theocracy conspiracies like the church taking over. No FEMA camps. Nothing like that is in my concerns.

35 Gus  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:14:09pm

re: #33 Mocking Jay

In his defense, you can't know for sure that he won't do the opposite of all things. He has promised that at one point or another also, no? ;)

I have to take him at his worst. Those are conservative principles.

36 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:14:49pm

re: #23 efuseakay

What ever his true core is.

Should note that I am also voting for Obama. Have no real problems with how he does things on the whole.

37 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:15:10pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

Who's voting for Mitt Romney?

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"He's a Christian!"

38 Joanne  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:15:22pm

re: #27 Majacita

Imagine what Obama's best would be with a functional congress.

39 Gus  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:15:47pm

He was dick governor contrary to popular belief.

40 jaunte  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:16:07pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

Who's voting for Mitt Romney?

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Steve Doocy will lead them.

41 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:16:25pm

re: #37 Mocking Jay

And I recuse myself from that conversation.

42 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:17:09pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

Who's voting for Mitt Romney?

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"Too much anger."

Really?

43 The Mountain That Blogs  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:17:41pm

Why I'm not voting for Romney: as a future ER doc, my head exploded at the "just go to the ER comments". Among many, many, many other reasons.

44 Bubblehead II  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:18:16pm

Night Lizards. RWNJ's and Rodent, I would suggest that you and your ilk consider this.

Not all of us are from the South. Nor do we share share your ideals.

Fuck with us at your own risk.

Because we can and will shoot back.

45 jaunte  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:18:25pm

What have the Buddhists done to Meat Loaf!

46 Joanne  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:18:39pm

re: #39 Gus

He was dick governor contrary to popular belief.

Hence losing MA by serious double digits. It's telling.

47 Majacita  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:19:02pm

re: #38 Joanne

Agreed. I think that he's going to do even better this term. I am hoping that we get some of the people like West and Bachman out.

48 Joanne  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:20:46pm

re: #47 Majacita

Agreed. I think that he's going to do even better this term. I am hoping that we get some of the people like West and Bachman out.

I wish. Neither look good, unfortunately.

49 jaunte  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:21:14pm
50 Gus  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:21:45pm

re: #49 jaunte

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Almost had a double post.

51 calochortus  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:22:06pm

re: #49 jaunte

Perhaps if the economy continues to pick up, his employees can find a better boss?

52 Gus  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:22:59pm

re: #49 jaunte

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Reminds me of Hugo Chavez for some reason. Then again, Republicans have a lot in common with South American strong men.

53 sagehen  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:24:03pm

re: #12 The Ghost of a Flea

The compulsively lying about personal achievements, personhood-fetishist, worst-of-Ayn-Rand-and-the-Old-Testament-believing, not-at-all-bold-or-serious non-wonk who crapped out a budget plan based on invisible unicorns as vice president also bears mentioning.

Charles Pierce (Esquire mag's politics blogger) just calls him Zombie-Eyed Granny Starver (ZOGS for short... not sure how the E became an O).

54 jaunte  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:24:13pm

re: #52 Gus

"Can't get your way? Oppress someone who can't fight back!"

55 Gus  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:24:56pm

re: #54 jaunte

"Can't get your way? Oppress someone who can't fight back!"

Vote for me or there will be no bread.

56 Gus  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:25:09pm

Villainy.

57 sagehen  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:25:18pm

re: #14 engineer cat

palin and ryan

is it possible to find two worse candidates to be a heartbeat away?

Yes.

They were onstage during the Republican primary debates.

58 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:26:27pm

re: #56 Gus

Villainy.

And scum...

59 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:26:44pm

re: #49 jaunte

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If the economy tanks under Obama like he thinks it will then the demand for crappy, cheap Mexicanish food will only increase, I would think.

60 Gus  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:28:52pm
61 sagehen  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:29:23pm

re: #29 efuseakay

800+ vetoes.

Over 700 of which were overturned.

62 Gus  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:30:19pm
63 The Mountain That Blogs  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:31:06pm

re: #62 Gus

Needs to get that nameplate embroidered, like Chris Christie's fleece.

64 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:31:24pm

I'm not voting for Romney because SEIU and ACORN have promised to instigate race riots if Obama loses.

Worse, Obama might win even if I vote for Romney. In that case, my house would be in danger of drone attack, I might be deported to FEMA camp, and my daughters' names would be entered in the special Black Panther marriage lottery Obama is organizing.

Otoh, Obama will reportedly let his voters, and his alone, keep a Bible and one gun, as long as they don't have more than 10 rounds of ammunition for it.

65 calochortus  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:31:36pm

re: #59 Mocking Jay

If the economy tanks under Obama like he thinks it will then the demand for crappy, cheap Mexicanish food will only increase, I would think.

I guess you can't expect a bad economy to make people realize their food tastes crappy. How about some nice, tasty, reasonably authentic Mexican food instead? Hardly costs more-less if you learn to make it at home.

66 philosophus invidius  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:31:57pm

On Nov. 7th, Romney will think back on his narrow defeat and think to himself ruefully: "Is their one more lie I could have told that could have made the difference?"

67 Mich-again  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:33:13pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

Who's voting for Mitt Romney?

Apparently a lot of ignorant crackers from Ohio

68 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:33:41pm

Somebody is apparently messing around with Andrew Breitbart's dead Twitter account.

69 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:33:53pm

re: #67 Mich-again

Apparently a lot of ignorant crackers from Ohio

Show some respect for the only state that matters.

70 Gus  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:34:10pm
71 Mich-again  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:34:12pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Somebody is apparently messing around with Andrew Breitbart's dead Twitter account.

Is he tweeting from beyond?

72 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:34:14pm

re: #49 jaunte

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Sometimes I get the feeling that the GOP is for white males who want to bully and beat up on everyone else, but I don't know exactly why. It's just this nagging feeling that I have..............

73 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:34:25pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Somebody is apparently messing around with Andrew Breitbart's dead Twitter account.

He is risen!!1!

74 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:34:28pm

Tupac. Biggie. Breitbart...

75 jaunte  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:34:51pm
We really can’t afford another anti-science administration — the world is changing much too fast and our children’s futures are entirely dependent our ability to adapt and foster new technologies. Mitt would bring a whole crowd of luddites with him.

What Would a Romney Victory Mean for the Environment?

"Greenhouse gas emission regulations would be halted. Romney now treats climate change as a punchline, despite the fact that he at least pretended to care about it as governor of Massachusetts. Thus, he doesn't see a reason that the EPA should be regulating carbon dioxide emissions at all. "I exhale carbon dioxide," he joked at an event last November. "I don't want those guys following me around with a meter to see if I'm breathing too hard."

What a fun guy.

76 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:35:18pm
77 engineer cat  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:35:49pm

re: #66 philosophus invidius

On Nov. 7th, Romney will think back on his narrow defeat and think to himself ruefully: "Is their one more lie I could have told that could have made the difference?"

many republicans are already running as "independants"

in 2014 i expect them to start running as "democrats"

78 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:36:06pm

re: #70 Gus

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If Hillary runs, PBO has to support her. She's been a great Sec of State and Big Dawg has been all in. He's made up for 2008 and then some.

79 Aligarr  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:37:06pm

re: #44 Only The Lurker Knows

Great song Lurker ,and I'm not even crazy about Williams , but RESPECT is a two way street , you just remember that and you dont have a lock on self defense . Besides NO ONE EVER WAS coming after you , NO ONE is coming after you ,NOR will any one be coming after you .So be carefull with your hairtrigger , you may shoot the next one coming in your woods only to find out it's one of your own " looking for someone "coming after him .

80 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:37:25pm

Prediction: Tuesday night will be like Mardi Gras, VJ Day, and Christmas rolled into one around here.
The good news will be heralded not by angels but by a mighty roar from the east as the networks call Virginia and Ohio for Obama and millions of wingnut heads explode simultaneously in response.

81 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:37:41pm

re: #77 engineer cat

many republicans are already running as "independants"

in 2014 i expect them to start running as "democrats"

Wasn't that basically how Michael Bloomberg got elected as NYC mayor?

82 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:37:47pm

re: #49 jaunte

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Looks like a violation of state law:

(2) A person may not directly or indirectly use or threaten to use force, violence, or intimidation or any tactic of coercion or intimidation to induce or compel an individual to:

(a) Vote or refrain from voting;

(b) Vote or refrain from voting for any particular individual or ballot measure;

And:

It is unlawful for any person having one or more persons in his or her service as employees to discharge or threaten to discharge any employee in his or her service for voting or not voting in any election, state, county, or municipal, for any candidate or measure submitted to a vote of the people. Any person who violates the provisions of this section is guilty of a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

I'd like to say that I cannot believe that Romney actually encouraged small business owners to coerce their employees into voting the way they want, but it's actually totally in character for that elitist piece of dogshit.

83 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:37:53pm

re: #78 moderatelyradicalliberal

If Hillary runs, PBO has to support her. She's been a great Sec of State and Big Dawg has been all in. He's made up for 2008 and then some.

I really hope Biden drops his delusions of grandeur.

84 Gus  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:38:19pm

You gotta listen.

85 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:39:05pm

re: #83 Mocking Jay

I really hope Biden drops his delusions of grandeur.

Delusions of grandeur? WTH...

86 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:39:37pm

re: #71 Mich-again

Is he tweeting from beyond?

If it is him, he's probably shopping for an air conditioner as I hear it's mighty warm down there...

87 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:39:59pm

Bill Clinton giving another awesome speech tonight in Virginia. His voice is shot, but his mind is very sharp.

88 calochortus  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:40:06pm

re: #67 Mich-again

Apparently a lot of ignorant crackers from Ohio

I actually know an Ohioan who is voting for Romney-against her own self interest, of course. Why? Who knows? Fear, I suppose.

89 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:40:11pm

re: #85 MittDoesNotCompute

Delusions of grandeur? WTH...

Yeah, that came out meaner that I meant it to. I like the guy, I really do, but I struggle to imagine him winning a presidential campaign.

90 dragonath  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:40:22pm

1) Unchallenged bigotry. It's a indisputable fact that his candidacy has been deriving much of his support from cultural atavism. We have seen the incredible spectacle of Donald Trump positioning himself as a proxy for the campaign while he spreads mistruths about Obama's birth certificate. No pushback.

This is basic civics. The silence is deafening.

2) An almost complete disregard to basic science in the public sphere, and the embrace of religious ideologues: Akin is case in point. An enthusiastic home school supporter with ties to the far-right militia movement. The Republican Party has embraced an environmental policy dictated by cronyism and the spread of uncertainty. With these degraded standards, creationism has ceased to be an issue

3) A monetary policy that would tax working people at a rate greater than his proposed capital gains tax (0%!) It not only makes a mockery of meritocracy but eschews the the value of labor, the very thing the American economy is built on.

91 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:40:30pm

re: #86 William Barnett-Lewis

If it is him, he's probably shopping for an air conditioner as I hear it's mighty warm down there...

Well, yeah...his nuts have been on 'broil' for months now.

///

92 Lidane  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:40:33pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

Who's voting for Mitt Romney?

A bunch of white people here in Texas. Deluded Faux News viewers. Idiots who think that if they support the "job creators" they'll somehow magically join the billionaire's club. Religious fanatics who think David Barton is a smart guy and that Darwin is the devil.

You know, the GOP base.

93 jaunte  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:40:33pm

re: #82 goddamnedfrank

Last June, the Republican presidential candidate told employers at the National Federation of Independent Business over a conference call to talk with their employers about which candidate is best for their business.[Link: www2.hernandotoday.com...]

"Talk to them in your own voice, but make sure they understand..."

94 Gus  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:40:34pm

re: #87 Charles Johnson

Bill Clinton giving another awesome speech tonight in Virginia. His voice is shot, but his mind is very sharp.

Yep. But I just bursted out laughing twice!

95 HappyWarrior  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:40:44pm

This is really good work. Major props. Can't wait to see your follow up tomorrow.

96 The Mountain That Blogs  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:41:32pm
97 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:42:35pm

re: #78 moderatelyradicalliberal

If Hillary runs, PBO has to support her. She's been a great Sec of State and Big Dawg has been all in. He's made up for 2008 and then some.

Stop and realize her age. She won't run. Now, Ms. Warren would be interesting, especially with Senator Baldwin as her running mate...

98 Lidane  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:42:48pm

re: #89 Mocking Jay

Yeah, that came out meaner that I meant it to. I like the guy, I really do, but I struggle to imagine him winning a presidential campaign.

I seriously doubt Biden would run in 2016. By then, he'd be 73 years old running for office. My guess is that he'll announce that he's not running and the 2016 race will be an open run at the White House on both sides.

99 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:42:58pm

re: #89 Mocking Jay

Yeah, that came out meaner that I meant it to. I like the guy, I really do, but I struggle to imagine him winning a presidential campaign.

I don't think Ol' Joe could carry the top of the ticket, but he's a great second fiddle and attack dog.

100 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:44:26pm

re: #97 William Barnett-Lewis

Stop and realize her age. She won't run. Now, Ms. Warren would be interesting, especially with Senator Baldwin as her running mate...

She'll be 69 in four years, and seems to be in pretty good health. I don't see why she shouldn't if she wants the job.

101 Aligarr  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:44:27pm

BTW Lurker , your boy Hank lost his TV Job , due to Lack of Respect , you know that thing you boys seem to be demanding . In other places under other circumstances he could have lost more than that .Especially if he ran into a bunch of folks like you . Know what I mean ?

102 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:44:29pm

re: #97 William Barnett-Lewis

Stop and realize her age. She won't run. Now, Ms. Warren would be interesting, especially with Senator Baldwin as her running mate...

Like Warren/Franken, but it'll probably be someone old-school like Cuomo.

103 HappyWarrior  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:44:45pm

There's lots of good candidates for the future. I really like my neighboring governor, Martin O'Malley. But other names that I hear I like too.

104 Lidane  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:46:07pm

re: #97 William Barnett-Lewis

Stop and realize her age. She won't run.

Yeah, I don't see it either. Hillary will be 69 years old by the time the 2016 election comes around. I see her sticking around at State for a while longer then stepping aside to retire and focus on philanthropy and stuff like the Clinton Global Initiative.

105 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:46:11pm

Wonder who'll run on the right in four years.

And you thought this primary was a freakshow...

106 Gus  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:46:16pm

LOL Boom!

107 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:46:53pm

re: #106 Gus

LOL Boom!

What happened in Benghazi now???

108 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:47:00pm

Anyone been able to reach C_L yet?

109 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:47:04pm

re: #97 William Barnett-Lewis

Stop and realize her age. She won't run. Now, Ms. Warren would be interesting, especially with Senator Baldwin as her running mate...

That's why I said "if". I doubt anybody who is already over 65 will be running in 2016. Having said that, whatever happens the Obamas and the Clintons are on good terms and that speaks very well for what both of these families can do post presidency.

After Obama serves his second term (I refuse to allow he and Michelle to go home to Chicago before January 20, 2017) I look forward to his post presidency. He will be in a position to do some amazing things both here in the US and globally and so will she.

110 Gus  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:47:19pm

re: #107 Mocking Jay

What happened in Benghazi now???

Clinton.

111 jaunte  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:47:32pm

re: #107 Mocking Jay

Free upding with autoloading comment!

112 HappyWarrior  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:47:48pm

re: #105 Mocking Jay

Wonder who'll run on the right in four years.

And you thought this primary was a freakshow...

My bets: Ryan, Santorum, Christie, Jindal, Rand Paul, and I am not sure who else.

113 engineer cat  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:48:32pm

re: #81 MittDoesNotCompute

Wasn't that basically how Michael Bloomberg got elected as NYC mayor?

not sure

it's been over 20 years since i lived in nyc

114 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:48:33pm

re: #112 HappyWarrior

My bets: Ryan, Santorum, Christie, Jindal, Rand Paul, and I am not sure who else.

Judas Christie?

/

115 Lidane  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:48:53pm

re: #87 Charles Johnson

Bill Clinton giving another awesome speech tonight in Virginia. His voice is shot, but his mind is very sharp.

Where is it being streamed?

116 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:48:56pm

re: #103 HappyWarrior

There's lots of good candidates for the future. I really like my neighboring governor, Martin O'Malley. But other names that I hear I like too.

O'Malley is on the top of my list for 2016. Hopefully he doesn't have an skeletons in his closet as he is kinda hot.

117 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:48:57pm

re: #108 MittDoesNotCompute

Hasn't contacted me yet.

118 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:49:21pm

re: #115 Lidane

Where is it being streamed?

MSNBC - Obama is now starting to speak...

119 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:49:35pm

Charles, the New Comments button is acting funky. Showing negative numbers. Using Chrome. In Win 8.

120 Lidane  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:49:50pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

MSNBC - Obama is now starting to speak...

Thanks!

121 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:50:20pm

re: #108 MittDoesNotCompute

Anyone been able to reach C_L yet?

re: #117 ProGunLiberal

Hasn't contacted me yet.

Even if safe and comfortable, she must be in severe comment-withdrawl.

122 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:51:37pm

re: #120 Lidane

Thanks!

I like hoarse PBO. Its kinda hot.

123 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:52:29pm

re: #122 moderatelyradicalliberal

I like hoarse PBO. Its kinda hot.

He sounds like he needs a lozenge.

124 HappyWarrior  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:52:40pm

re: #116 moderatelyradicalliberal

O'Malley is on the top of my list for 2016. Hopefully he doesn't have an skeletons in his closet as he is kinda hot.

I don't know if he does or not but what was telling to me is that he actually did better in 2010 than he had in 2006 and that was against the same opponent, Ehrlich whom was a former governor too. What I like about Marty is he's quite socially liberal and he has a likability to him- plays in an Irish-American rock group. As I said, there's a lot of names I hear mentioned I like. I really like New York's Kirsten Gillibrand.

125 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:53:10pm

re: #122 moderatelyradicalliberal

I like hoarse PBO. Its kinda hot.

With his luck he comes out of this sounding like Barry White.

126 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:53:34pm

re: #105 Mocking Jay

Wonder who'll run on the right in four years.

And you thought this primary was a freakshow...

Fischer/Barton '16!

127 HappyWarrior  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:54:06pm

re: #126 Shiplord Kirel

Fischer/Barton '16!

Candidates from the same state aren't allowed to run on the same ticket. They are both residing on Mars right?

128 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:54:28pm

Oh, look at that. Ronald Reagan was 69 when he was inaugurated.

129 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:55:20pm

re: #126 Shiplord Kirel

Fischer/Barton '16!

I'm going to start on my Canadian immigration papers as soon as they announce just in case.

130 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:56:19pm

re: #124 HappyWarrior

I don't know if he does or not but what was telling to me is that he actually did better in 2010 than he had in 2006 and that was against the same opponent, Ehrlich whom was a former governor too. What I like about Marty is he's quite socially liberal and he has a likability to him- plays in an Irish-American rock group. As I said, there's a lot of names I hear mentioned I like. I really like New York's Kirsten Gillibrand.

I like her a lot. There was talk about her being a blue dog when she first became Senator, but she'd been great on progressive policies and she's tough. We could have an embarrassment of riches like we did back in 2008. In terms of the future I would like to see the Democrats focus really hard on getting great candidates elected statewide in as many states as possible to keep a strong bench. We need more women and minority statewide elected officials too like Kamala Harris out in CA.

131 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:56:50pm

re: #125 Decatur Deb

With his luck he comes out of this sounding like Barry White.

Well he already sings like Al Green.

132 sagehen  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:57:12pm

re: #104 Lidane

Yeah, I don't see it either. Hillary will be 69 years old by the time the 2016 election comes around. I see her sticking around at State for a while longer then stepping aside to retire and focus on philanthropy and stuff like the Clinton Global Initiative.

I see her as special envoy to finally solve the Israel/Palestine mishegas. If she can just burrow down and focus all her attention on that one thing, letting other people worry about the rest of the world's problems, she'll get it all fixed in under a year.

133 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:58:16pm

re: #128 Mocking Jay

Oh, look at that. Ronald Reagan was 69 when he was inaugurated.

I'm not sure that's the best example as he most certainly had early dementia by his last two years.

134 dragonath  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:58:28pm

re: #101 Aligarr

BTW Lurker , your boy Hank lost his TV Job , due to Lack of Respect , you know that thing you boys seem to be demanding . In other places under other circumstances he could have lost more than that .Especially if he ran into a bunch of folks like you . Know what I mean ?

Yeah, I heard those gangs of liberal heavies are really something.

135 HappyWarrior  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 7:59:16pm

re: #130 moderatelyradicalliberal

I like her a lot. There was talk about her being a blue dog when she first became Senator, but she'd been great on progressive policies and she's tough. We could have an embarrassment of riches like we did back in 2008. In terms of the future I would like to see the Democrats focus really hard on getting great candidates elected statewide in as many states as possible to keep a strong bench. We need more women and minority statewide elected officials too like Kamala Harris out in CA.

Yeah, people had that concern since she's from a more rural part of New York. There's a lot of good young and upcomers.

136 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:00:00pm

re: #133 moderatelyradicalliberal

I'm not sure that's the best example as he most certainly had early dementia by his last two years.

I'd argue he had that back when he cut that record bashing medicare...

Seriously though, Ron Paul's older than that. So was McCain and Mike Gravel.

137 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:00:03pm

re: #128 Mocking Jay

Oh, look at that. Ronald Reagan was 69 when he was inaugurated.

I don't consider that a positive example...

138 b_snark  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:00:10pm

re: #38 Joanne

Imagine what Obama's best would be with a functional congress.

The US would become more like Canada.

139 Stanghazi  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:00:29pm

re: #105 Mocking Jay

Wonder who'll run on the right in four years.

And you thought this primary was a freakshow...

Ryan is in it for sure. Annointed and all that.

140 sagehen  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:02:10pm

re: #124 HappyWarrior

I don't know if he does or not but what was telling to me is that he actually did better in 2010 than he had in 2006 and that was against the same opponent, Ehrlich whom was a former governor too. What I like about Marty is he's quite socially liberal and he has a likability to him- plays in an Irish-American rock group. As I said, there's a lot of names I hear mentioned I like. I really like New York's Kirsten Gillibrand.

Kirsten would be an awesome VP pick, but I'm always happier with a governor at the top of the ticket. We lucked out this time, but usually senators don't have the executive skills.

141 HappyWarrior  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:03:07pm

re: #140 sagehen

Kirsten would be an awesome VP pick, but I'm always happier with a governor at the top of the ticket. We lucked out this time, but usually senators don't have the executive skills.

Yeah I tend to agree. Lot of good governors out there. I've seen O'Malley, Kaine, and Schweitzer all speak.

142 Joanne  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:28:12pm

Both Bill Clinton and Obama were ON. FIRE. Great speeches!

143 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:28:38pm

re: #18 Decatur Deb

If it weren't him, it would be any of a dozen TPGOP assholes.

It could be so much worse. It could have been Santorum.

144 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:29:53pm

re: #22 engineer cat

a haircut as envisioned by the founding fathers is reestablished

Ponytail and curly sides?

145 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:30:51pm

re: #39 Gus

He was dick governor contrary to popular belief.

One of my college girlfriends lives in MA. She hated him when he was governor.

146 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:32:48pm

re: #104 Lidane

Yeah, I don't see it either. Hillary will be 69 years old by the time the 2016 election comes around. I see her sticking around at State for a while longer then stepping aside to retire and focus on philanthropy and stuff like the Clinton Global Initiative.

How old will she be in 2016 if she doesn't run for President?

147 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:34:12pm

re: #112 HappyWarrior

My bets: Ryan, Santorum, Christie, Jindal, Rand Paul, and I am not sure who else.

You think Jindal's got a hope?

If Christie wants to be taken seriously, he should start dieting now. I say this begrudgingly, since I really don't see why a fat guy shouldn't be President. Taft wasn't that bad.

148 KronoGhazi  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:34:14pm

Randall FTW! Well said, I couldn't agree more.

149 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:35:06pm

re: #133 moderatelyradicalliberal

I'm not sure that's the best example as he most certainly had early dementia by his last two years.

Yes, but that can start earlier, or later, or not at all.

150 dragonath  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:36:46pm

re: #147 SanFranciscoZionist

Eh, Taft wasn't all that great. Check out the way he dismissed Gifford Pinchot.

151 funky chicken  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 9:38:48pm

re: #89 Mocking Jay

Yeah, that came out meaner that I meant it to. I like the guy, I really do, but I struggle to imagine him winning a presidential campaign.

I dunno. He was pretty sharp in that debate with Ryan. I was impressed. He was also way out front (with John McCain, interestingly enough) in criticizing Bush and Rumsfeld for sending our guys to Iraq without proper armor on vehicles.

152 Flavia  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 11:26:56pm

re: #41 ProGunLiberal

And I recuse myself from that conversation.

I don't. The sick thing is that half the people voting for him would be screaming that he's NOT a Xian if Obama was white. Most of your Fundie whackjobs really don't believe that Mormons are Xians because of the whole "become your own god with your own planet" thing. But because Obama is black & his middle name is "Hussein", he's therefore a Muslim (still can't get over this one!) &. also therefore, Romney magically becomes a Xian (with apologies to Ringo Starr).

153 Flavia  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 11:39:06pm

re: #108 MittDoesNotCompute

Anyone been able to reach C_L yet?

Is she in the path of Sandy???

154 Tigger2  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 1:22:39am

re: #49 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Well I'm going to cut that owners profit a small bit, I have bought my last Taco Bell product. I hate people like him.

155 Randall Gross  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 6:02:02am

I wrote this in under 15 minutes, and here's something I forgot to include:


Romney would create market instability -- he's already threatened to fire Bernanke, drastically change tax structure, and to kill Obamacare. His election would empower a fiscal cliff diving congressional faction that's already dogpiled on top of the US recovery to hinder it for political gain. His tax and fiscal policy is both misguided and murky - all of the above would sow uncertainty and create great instability to a slowly recovering economy.

156 nines09  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 12:46:54pm

Mitt Romney puts the "eaze" in "sleaze". He's the sheen on the top of the cesspool currently called the GOP.


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