1 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 1:53:19pm

Over a billion spent trying to buy this election and the best the GOP can do is make a "can't lose" election into a nail-biter.

I think there's gonna be a lot of billionaires demanding refunds come Wednesday.

2 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 1:54:44pm

Cannot recall who posted the comment upstairs that they are gonna fight the outcome tooth and nail if it does not go their way.

But count on it.

3 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 1:57:32pm

Next time the republicans will do two things.

1) Nominate a more conservative candidate.
2) Spend even more money.

Outcome will be the same.

4 funky chicken  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:00:37pm

re: #1 Targetpractice

Over a billion spent trying to buy this election and the best the GOP can do is make a "can't lose" election into a nail-biter.

I think there's gonna be a lot of billionaires demanding refunds come Wednesday.

Hey, at least it gets them to spend some of their money here in the US. They haven't figured out how to outsource campaigns yet, as far as I know.

5 GeneJockey  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:02:24pm

re: #4 funky chicken

Hey, at least it gets them to spend some of their money here in the US. They haven't figured out how to outsource campaigns yet, as far as I know.

Chinese-made Romney-Ryan ball caps, maybe?

6 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:05:07pm

re: #1 Targetpractice

I think there's gonna be a lot of billionaires demanding refunds come Wednesday.

Caveat emptor. All candidates are sold as-is. No refunds.

7 engineer cat  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:05:48pm

love the music! sounds to me like a 'ragtime orchestra' recording of about the year 1905...

8 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:07:32pm

Like I said downstairs, one thing I foresee coming out of this election will be pushes by the GOP to limit the influence of unrestricted campaign spending like this at the local and state level, as well as in party primaries. That will be geared more towards preventing the Tea Party from putting guys like Joe Walsh back on the ballots.

9 aagcobb  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:10:49pm

re: #2 AK-47%

Cannot recall who posted the comment upstairs that they are gonna fight the outcome tooth and nail if it does not go their way.

But count on it.

I don't think so. I don't expect the election to be close enough to warrant it. But there will be a lot of whining on the Right about supposed media bias and election fraud.

10 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:10:53pm

If Romney wins, big money wins, in which case, I become the crazy lady who rides a bike to and fro with a sign saying:
"We're doomed! Democracy is dead!! The end is nigh!!!"
//

11 Varek Raith  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:11:57pm

I hate being in a swing state.

12 EmmaAnne  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:14:25pm

re: #11 Varek Raith

I hate being in a swing state.

I admit that it is stressful, but I like it. What I do - canvassing, creating lists, calling people - matters.

13 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:14:48pm

re: #11 Varek Raith

I hate being in a swing state.

Which is funny, because Virginia traditionally isn't one. The reality that we might go blue for the second year in a row is rather fascinating.

14 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:18:19pm

re: #9 aagcobb

I don't think so. I don't expect the election to be close enough to warrant it. But there will be a lot of whining on the Right about supposed media bias and election fraud.

Anything less than a landslide will have them howling, and I don't eypect a landslide even under the most optimistic circumstances.

15 wrenchwench  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:19:19pm

re: #10 R.M, Ramallo

If Romney wins, big money wins, in which case, I become the crazy lady who rides a bike to and fro with a sign saying:
"We're doomed! Democracy is dead!! The end is nigh!!!"
//

Upding for doin' it on a bike.

16 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:19:35pm

re: #14 AK-47%

Anything less than a landslide will have them howling, and I don't eypect a landslide even under the most optimistic circumstances.

Oh, they'll howl no matter what. But they'll only get people to pay attention if it's close.

17 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:19:44pm

re: #14 AK-47%

Anything less than a landslide will have them howling, and I don't eypect a landslide even under the most optimistic circumstances.

Neither do I. TPM commenter was suggesting today that efforts in the last few days by the GOP in non-contested states is them trying to run up the popular vote, if only to have something to club Obama over the head with.

18 aagcobb  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:20:55pm

re: #14 AK-47%

Anything less than a landslide will have them howling, and I don't eypect a landslide even under the most optimistic circumstances.

He should win Ohio comfortably, by a large enough margin that a recount would clearly be futile. That would make challenging the results in any other state pointless.

19 jaunte  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:21:27pm
20 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:22:04pm

re: #19 jaunte

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Ro-mentum cannot be denied! Obama's totally gonna lose!

21 jaunte  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:25:59pm

Romney robocall: Obama is a threat to our religious freedom!1! Srsly!

"Christians who are thinking about voting for Obama should remember what he said about people of faith: “They … cling to guns or religion.” And remember when Obama forced Christian organizations to provide insurance coverage that was contrary to their religious beliefs? That’s the real Barack Obama. That’s the real threat to our religious freedom. Mitt Romney understands the importance of faith and family. That’s why so many leaders of the Christian community are supporting Romney.

They know we can’t underestimate the threat Barack Obama poses to our faith, our values, our freedom."

22 Varek Raith  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:27:40pm

Chasing indoor cat for a half hour outside was not fun.
I'm cold.

23 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:28:41pm

Really, at this point, I expect one of two outcomes from Tuesday: Obama wins by such margins that the question of recounts and provisional votes is moot, or that the margins are so close that this menagerie continues on for at least two weeks, severely eating into time to address the fiscal cliff because Congress critters on both sides will refuse to deal in the hopes that their guy will win and give them more leverage post-January.

24 Eventual Carrion  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:29:46pm

re: #21 jaunte

Romney robocall: Obama is a threat to our religious freedom!1! Srsly!

They disparage his claim as they cling to their guns and religion.

25 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:32:15pm

re: #23 Targetpractice

Really, at this point, I expect one of two outcomes from Tuesday: Obama wins by such margins that the question of recounts and provisional votes is moot, or that the margins are so close that this menagerie continues on for at least two weeks, severely eating into time to address the fiscal cliff because Congress critters on both sides will refuse to deal in the hopes that their guy will win and give them more leverage post-January.

The GOP will press it even without a serious chance of prevailing in an attempt to weaken Obama's legitimacy. They are that sort of bastards these days.

Al Gore refused to do wo, even with a reasonable chance of prevailing because he did not want to see America's political legitimacy threatened. We already saw what the GOP thinks of that notion over the last budget debacle...

26 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:33:56pm

re: #24 Eventual Carrion

They disparage his claim as they cling to their guns and religion.

It's entertaining to be a democrat with guns and bible and point it out to them. The wingnut mind just can't handle that.

Perhaps I'll wear my Liberal Gun Club hat when I go to the poll to work on Tuesday?

27 aagcobb  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:34:53pm

re: #22 Varek Raith

Chasing indoor cat for a half hour outside was not fun.
I'm cold.

I would've stayed in my nice, warm house and let the cat choose its fate.

28 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:35:22pm

re: #25 AK-47%

The GOP will press it even without a serious chance of prevailing in an attempt to weaken Obama's legitimacy. They are that sort of bastards these days.

Al Gore refused to do wo, even with a reasonable chance of prevailing because he did not want to see America's political legitimacy threatened. We already saw what the GOP thinks of that notion over the last budget debacle...

I really expect that the GOP tries to take up negotiations in the midst of a fight over the electoral college, it will to push for another "temporary" extension, which they hope to make permanent with Romney in the White House.

29 Cheechako  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:36:17pm

re: #11 Varek Raith

I hate being in a swing state.

Nice to be in a red state far from the hub-bub down south. The only political ads we're seeing is for the local and state candidates.

30 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:36:31pm

re: #26 William Barnett-Lewis

It's entertaining to be a democrat with guns and bible and point it out to them. The wingnut mind just can't handle that.

Perhaps I'll wear my Liberal Gun Club hat when I go to the poll to work on Tuesday?

A buddy of mine has a 'Sportsmen for Obama' bumper-sticker on his big 'ol truck.

31 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:40:32pm

I heard a pro Romney radio ad that said Ambassador Stevens was dragged through Bengazi yesterday.
I almost lost it.

32 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:40:48pm

re: #30 R.M, Ramallo

A buddy of min has a 'Sportsmen for Obama' bumper-sticker on his big 'ol truck.

I was at a "traditional" gun site the other day and joe wingnut was urging everyone to get out and vote. I merely commented that I had early voted for the candidate who had only signed into law bills increasing gun rights rather than the candidate who had signed a gun ban into law and said he wouldn't want to decrease strict anti-gun laws... Ka-Boom! Biggest whine-rant I read that day :) Admins simply locked the thread after that.

33 The Mountain That Blogs  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:40:53pm

re: #29 Cheechako

Or New York City. I've seen more ads for the Connecticut Senate race than the one here. I don't think I know anything about the Republican challenger other than her name, and I only learned that recently.

34 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:42:47pm

re: #32 William Barnett-Lewis

I was at a "traditional" gun site the other day and joe wingnut was urging everyone to get out and vote. I merely commented that I had early voted for the candidate who had only signed into law bills increasing gun rights rather than the candidate who had signed a gun ban into law and said he wouldn't want to decrease strict anti-gun laws... Ka-Boom! Biggest whine-rant I read that day :) Admins simply locked the thread after that.

LOL.
If the truth hurts, smack 'em around with it.

35 kirkspencer  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:42:59pm

re: #26 William Barnett-Lewis

It's entertaining to be a democrat with guns and bible and point it out to them. The wingnut mind just can't handle that.

Perhaps I'll wear my Liberal Gun Club hat when I go to the poll to work on Tuesday?

Wearing a veteran's pin and a pro-O shirt has been a delight every Veteran's day recently. It'll be even more fun next week.

36 wrenchwench  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:44:11pm

re: #32 William Barnett-Lewis

I was at a "traditional" gun site the other day and joe wingnut was urging everyone to get out and vote. I merely commented that I had early voted for the candidate who had only signed into law bills increasing gun rights rather than the candidate who had signed a gun ban into law and said he wouldn't want to decrease strict anti-gun laws... Ka-Boom! Biggest whine-rant I read that day :) Admins simply locked the thread after that.

...

Factsss!! They burrrnn!!1!

37 freetoken  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:44:42pm

re: #33 The Mountain That Blogs

Or New York City. I've seen more ads for the Connecticut Senate race than the one here. I don't think I know anything about the Republican challenger other than her name, and I only learned that recently.

Many of Linda McMahon's old videos from the WWE days have been removed from Youtube (under request from WWE) because, frankly, they are embarrassing.

38 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:45:39pm

re: #35 kirkspencer

Wearing a veteran's pin and a pro-O shirt has been a delight every Veteran's day recently. It'll be even more fun next week.

Good point. I'll add my crossed rifles to my hat as well... ;)

39 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:45:51pm

re: #32 William Barnett-Lewis

Just you wait. In his third term Obama is totally gonna take all your guns and stuff, I just know it!

40 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:49:15pm

re: #39 Sophist, Gingham Style (AKA Bronco Bama)

Just you wait. In his third term Obama is totally gonna take all your guns and stuff, I just know it!

Meh.
That's only if you refuse to declare fealty to the Empire.

41 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:50:22pm

Night is falling in AL, and the driveway lamp is shining on my new (replacement) Obama yard sign. It's not quite bright enough to see the black nylon line to the 120 dB tumbler alarm in the flowerbed.

42 Varek Raith  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:50:50pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

Night is falling in AL, and the driveway lamp is shining on my new (replacement) Obama yard sign. It's not quite bright enough to see the black nylon line to the 120 dB tumbler alarm in the flowerbed.

Lol.

43 freetoken  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:53:17pm

Here's one WWE missed. Pick it up around 9:10 :

[Link: www.dailymotion.com...]

Since the title does not say "Linda" I think their search engine missed it.

Yes, Vince McMahon is using his company to help his wife's election, unpriced to the FEC of course. The same McMahon that is pals with The Donald, famed of late for his absurd attacks on President Obama.

44 William of Orange  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:54:13pm

Oh my god!!! He did it again.... and some more!!

Remember Epke Zonderland? A fellow Frisian like me, he won an Olympic gold medal with the Horizontal bar with an amazing display. He was the first man to do three flight elements in a major tournament.

Today he's done it again, and added a fourth element!!

Here's some footage recorded at the training facility in Heerenveen. In order; Cassina, Kovacs, Kolman and Gaylord II.

Amazing!

45 dragonath  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:55:00pm

Victor Davis Hanson feels a surge coming on!

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

In truth, throughout this entire hare-and-tortoise campaign, Romney has been steady, disciplined, and focused, and has dealt well with surprises — from the 47 percent video release to Hurricane Sandy

Hoh.

46 Obdicut  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:58:07pm

re: #45 dragonath

How did Romney deal with Sandy?

47 Varek Raith  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:58:50pm

re: #46 Obdicut

How did Romney deal with Sandy?

Epically.

48 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:59:09pm

re: #46 Obdicut

How did Romney deal with Sandy?

He got his picture taken with a can of corn.

49 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:59:35pm

re: #46 Obdicut

How did Romney deal with Sandy?

He shot it in the face with cans of creamed corn.

50 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:01:41pm

re: #48 R.M, Ramallo

He got his picture taken with a can of corn.

Then he yelled at Chris Christy for saying thank you to the president.

51 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:02:30pm

re: #45 dragonath

...Romney has been steady, disciplined, and focused...

We're still talking about Mitt Romney, right?

52 jamesfirecat  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:02:31pm

re: #46 Obdicut

How did Romney deal with Sandy?

One lane at a time just like how he cleared up that football field...

53 freetoken  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:06:48pm

This idea that Obama is the reason there is a "partisan divide" in Washington is being played strongly by various media with a bone to pick:


New York newspapers flip for Romney

"Obama's failure to accelerate the improvement of the economy is the dominant reason Romney is the right choice, but it's not the only one," wrote the Long Island paper's editorial board, also pointing to a rising national debt and Obama's failure to break the partisan divide in Washington, to name a few.

Editors bending over backwards to endorse the rule by extortion approach of the GOP.

54 freetoken  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:08:52pm

NBC calling it a TIE!!

[Link: www.kcra.com...]

This is nothing less than the first election based on Reality TV.

55 dragonath  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:09:19pm

re: #46 Obdicut

How did Romney deal with Sandy?

I'm glad you asked, because there's another National Review article dealing with that!

Global Warming Did Not Cause Sandy

In the wake of the disaster caused by Tropical Storm Sandy, various allies of the Obama campaign have rushed to claim that the event was caused by anthropogenic global warming, thereby justifying the president’s program of crushing the economy with regressive carbon taxes, a supposedly necessary measure to prevent future bad weather. In fact, there is no scientific basis, either empirical or theoretical, to justify such claims.

Romney did nothing, resolutely! The RIGHT choice!

56 freetoken  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:10:54pm

And, get this, John Fund and National Review playing up fears of some sort of discrimination against... Romney:


The Mormon Issue in Ohio

These same people have not only turned a blind eye but actively aided the past 4 years of dog-whistle racism against the President.

57 dragonath  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:12:44pm

re: #53 freetoken

What that article doesn't say is that the Daily News owner went epic level ODS a couple of years ago. The Daily News is farther out than the Post now.

58 freetoken  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:13:04pm

re: #55 dragonath

That one is not as craftily crafted as yesterday's article on climate change over there.

59 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:13:41pm

re: #53 freetoken

This idea that Obama is the reason there is a "partisan divide" in Washington is being played strongly by various media with a bone to pick:

Hey, Obama has willfully and intentionally continued to be a Black Democrat with a funny name. He could have reached out to the other side of the aisle by becoming a white Republican named Jim Smith, but he chose not to. You can't blame the Republicans for that, that's on Obama.

60 The Mountain That Blogs  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:13:54pm

re: #55 dragonath

Are they trying to minimize it by calling it a tropical storm and not a hurricane?

61 Digital Display  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:16:12pm

Well I must post something..I just got home from a wake for a Moose member.
A big ole Cowboy that passed from a freak accident.. Shock would be an understatement. I love the people of Oklahoma.. Just love their heart.
I will miss them. I've been around..ya know..I love them here..
You just don't understand their hearts..When was the last time you had a big ole country boy with a 10 gallon hat tap you in the chest and say, ' You I love ' ?
So I sit here with my laptop watching football remembering all the stories told today about Lewis and the kind of man he was and who he helped.
And I swear to God in Heaven there are tears pouring down my cheeks right now. God Bless you Lewis

62 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:18:05pm
And, get this, John Fund and National Review playing up fears of some sort of discrimination against... Romney:

The Mormon Issue in Ohio

These same people have not only turned a blind eye but actively aided the past 4 years of dog-whistle racism against the President.

An article that blithely glosses over the most strident anti-Mormon voices...the Protestant social conservatives who launched the "Vote Jesus" campaign....

National Review is remains a fucking joke. Fox News with three-syllable words.

63 freetoken  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:20:04pm

re: #62 The Ghost of a Flea

An article that blithely glosses over the most strident anti-Mormon voices...the Protestant social conservatives who launched the "Vote Jesus" campaign....

National Review is remains a fucking joke. Fox News with three-syllable words.

That's exactly it. NR simply aims at those with a 12th grade reading level, compared to Fox or WND which aim at those with less (functional) education. Otherwise, the content and purpose are much the same.

64 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:21:04pm

re: #62 The Ghost of a Flea

All one needs is to publish an objective article on how the LDS church is organized and its history and one need not point any fingers, just remind people that Mitt is a bishop in that organization.

But the Dems did not bother going there because they know that the blowback would not be worth it

65 dragonath  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:21:05pm

re: #58 freetoken

That one is not as craftily crafted as yesterday's article on climate change over there.

WATUR VAPUR.

66 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:23:32pm

re: #56 freetoken

And, get this, John Fund and National Review playing up fears of some sort of discrimination against... Romney:

The Mormon Issue in Ohio

These same people have not only turned a blind eye but actively aided the past 4 years of dog-whistle racism against the President.

I have seen absolutely no evidence of a Mormon Issue.
Maybe in churches, but that's nothing new.

67 freetoken  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:24:47pm

re: #66 R.M, Ramallo

I have seen absolutely no evidence of a Mormon Issue.
Maybe in churches, but that's nothing new.

As Ghost of a Flea pointed out, the big anti-Mormon movement is the Vote For Jesus people, conveniently left out of that NRO piece.

68 dragonath  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:27:23pm

Man, the National Review is just trolling people now. Check out this gem that they just stuck up:

...the Democrats’ fundamental constituency: the Dumb Vote. Or, as I call them, Jon Stewart’s audience...

LOL

69 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:29:06pm

re: #68 dragonath

Man, the National Review is just trolling people now. Check out this gem that they just stuck up:

LOL

Bet it took him all day to think of that...
Brilliant.

70 aagcobb  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:33:07pm

Hah. Another "Bigfoot" video.

[Link: www.grindtv.com...]

71 dragonath  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:35:13pm

I find it astonishing that Dark posts links to this magazine in earnest seriousness. The Weekly World News has a better grasp on reality.

If you view that clip again, take a close look at 0's eyes and expression when he says "revenge" and then savors the applause. We are at the precipice with this terrible, terrible mistake at the helm.

I'm having way too much fun now. And the Muslim Brotherhood is taking over America.

72 aagcobb  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:46:31pm

re: #71 dragonath

I find it astonishing that Dark posts links to this magazine in earnest seriousness. The Weekly World News has a better grasp on reality.

I'm having way too much fun now. And the Muslim Brotherhood is taking over America.

Whipping up fear of the scary black man is a centuries old tradition of the plantantion owners to keep poor whites in line. Thank God this is the last national election in which that tactic had even a prayer of working. From now on, until the GOP figures out to to expand its appeal with minorities, it will be shut out of the White House.

73 dragonath  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:47:47pm

Via these comments, I present to you possibly the greatest insult of all time:

Did you learn to read in a government-run school?

You can all go home now. Letters are socialist.

74 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:50:54pm

re: #71 dragonath

I find it astonishing that Dark posts links to this magazine in earnest seriousness. The Weekly World News has a better grasp on reality.

I'm having way too much fun now. And the Muslim Brotherhood is taking over America.

Wingnuts really believe this.

75 engineer cat  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:52:08pm

voting chaos in florida! hundreds turned away after standing in line for 7 hours!

the florida secretary of state has an obligation to come out and tell the polling places to stay open until every vote is counted

why is this not happening?

76 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:53:14pm

re: #75 engineer cat

voting chaos in florida! hundreds turned away after standing in line for 7 hours!

the florida secretary of state has an obligation to come out and tell the polling places to stay open until every vote is counted

why is this not happening?

I take it that's a rhetorical question.

77 geoduck  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 3:56:04pm

I urge folks to push for all vote-by-mail, like we now do in Washington and Oregon. You get your ballot days in advance and can fill it out at your leisure at home, no standing in damn lines for hours on end. If you don't trust the mail, there are places to directly return your completed ballot.

78 jamesfirecat  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:02:05pm

re: #77 geoduck

I urge folks to push for all vote-by-mail, like we now do in Washington and Oregon. You get your ballot days in advance and can fill it out at your leisure at home, no standing in damn lines for hours on end. If you don't trust the mail, there are places to directly return your completed ballot.

Yeah, I'm casting an absentee ballot from home for complicated reasons this year, and yeah it was nice, had the house all to myself today.... even had time to go webrowse up some information a couple of things about some of the "questions" that I felt were important enough to vote on but didn't feel like upon first reading I knew enough to answer properly.

79 Gus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:02:40pm
80 Bubblehead II  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:03:55pm

Evening Lizards.

81 dragonath  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:06:49pm

re: #77 geoduck

I urge folks to push for all vote-by-mail, like we now do in Washington and Oregon. You get your ballot days in advance and can fill it out at your leisure at home, no standing in damn lines for hours on end. If you don't trust the mail, there are places to directly return your completed ballot.

I have some issues with that, as I articulated a day ago:

1) That assumes that the rest of the country is as advanced as Washington and Oregon. It isn't. I shudder to think how a mail voting system would proceed in a state with a history of vote corruption.

2) I garan-fuckin-tee you some religious nuts are going try to dictate their family votes one way or another. This is the reason we have the secret ballot.

3) We don't even know the long term prospects of the USPS yet. We may end up with a public voting system processed through a panoply of private carriers. Oh hell no.

82 Gus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:07:06pm

re: #80 Only The Lurker Knows

Evening Lizards.

Day Lizards!

83 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:08:14pm


Oh wait...

84 Gus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:10:17pm
85 Stanghazi  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:11:39pm

Where's Mitt today?

86 danarchy  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:12:17pm

re: #85 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

Where's Mitt today?

Speaking in Pennsylvania right now.

87 Digital Display  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:12:26pm

re: #81 dragonath

Well Hell.. If the Gov't can afford to build multibillion dollar subs then decom them. Then they can afford to send every freaking voter in the USA a FEDEX or UPS box with prepaid postage and a damn Ballot. Period. If you registered you get a FEDEX box sent to your home with any local, State and Fed ballots inclosed.

88 darthstar  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:13:09pm
89 dragonath  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:14:57pm

re: #87 Digital Display

That would be the logical route. Sadly, this is a country that does not always prioritize voting. I believe that Election Day should be a federal holiday, at least.

90 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:15:13pm

Evening Lizardim from the cold and cloudy wild north country. The countdown to E-Day is getting into the small numbers, and I see that the GOP is pulling out all the stops to ensure that their man wins, no matter what the country actually wants. How are things among the Lizardim?

91 Gus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:15:34pm

re: #85 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

Where's Mitt today?

Somewhere in front of a bunch of old white people.

92 jamesfirecat  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:16:49pm

re: #91 Gus

Somewhere in front of a bunch of old angrywhite people.

It never hurts to be precise.

93 danarchy  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:17:00pm

re: #89 dragonath

That would be the logical route. Sadly, this is a country that does not always prioritize voting. I believe that Election Day should be a federal holiday, at least.

Same here, the only time I ever missed voting was because I was stuck in traffic for 2 hours on my way home from work.

94 Gus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:17:31pm

re: #92 jamesfirecat

It never hurts to be precise.

I wonder if Kid Rock unfurled his Confederate flag for his closing "concert" today.

95 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:17:39pm

re: #93 danarchy

Same here, the only time I ever missed voting was because I was stuck in traffic for 2 hours on my way home from work.

I will be staying home during the morning hours and voting. I expect to be waiting in line a significant amount of time, due to the expected extremely high voter turnout.

96 jaunte  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:17:59pm

"You know," Barbara told her friends, "if that Obamacare isn't repealed, we're going to lose all our doctors. There just waiting to see if it stays and, if it does, they'll leave. They'll leave the country." Somebody else mentioned the president's plan to arrest doctors who refuse to be part of his health-care plan. "That sounds like a dictatorship," someone said.

"Well, it is a dictatorship," someone else responded, as the elderly ladies across the room pursed their lips and tried not to notice. "He's a Socialist, that's what he is."

"He doesn't even go to church," Barbara said. "My daughter, she talked at a college up north, and she told me that they've all had all this stuff just force-fed to them. She said that they all believe in evolution, that we all descended from monkeys. All the teachers and professors are Communists."

97 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:19:50pm

re: #96 jaunte

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Whoo-wee, that's a boxcar full of ignorance and crazy right there.

Worse than that, there are millions more like them.

98 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:21:41pm

My prediction for the election, based off of Nate Silver.

303-235

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99 dragonath  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:25:29pm

That sounds a lot like the dirty tricks that we accuse Republicans of. Better to keep your nose clean and demographic shifts should happen in due time.

There are at least 45 million Republicans. They are not going to go away through isolation.

100 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:30:12pm

re: #99 dragonath

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101 darthstar  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:31:05pm
102 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:32:58pm

re: #100 ProGunLiberal

Have you heard anything from CuriousLurker? I am very worried about her.

103 darthstar  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:32:59pm

re: #101 darthstar

Nothing makes me happier than the thought of Mitt taking the stage at a rally full of his supporters, many of them shouting, "You asshole! We're freezing and we have to pee!"

VICTORY!

104 darthstar  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:33:29pm
105 Achilles Tang  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:33:32pm

re: #96 jaunte

That's standard fare at right wing websites. It's depressing enough to wonder how we ever got where we are as homo sapiens (which I suspect many of these illiterates would not want to belong to on semantic grounds).

106 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:34:50pm

re: #103 darthstar

Nothing makes me happier than the thought of Mitt taking the stage at a rally full of his supporters, many of them shouting, "You asshole! We're freezing and we have to pee!"

VICTORY!

Talk about a tough crowd. Ol' Mittens has a hard time working over even a group of his cronies, I'd love to see the look on his face as he comes out on stage and sees all the death glares aimed his way.

107 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:35:03pm

re: #102 Sheila Broflovski

Nothing yet.

108 Joanne  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:35:39pm

re: #20 Targetpractice

Ro-mentum cannot be denied! Obama's totally gonna lose!

VoMitt!

109 Gus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:35:47pm

re: #96 jaunte

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Freaks. Obama goes to church. Or at least I'm pretty sure he does. But anywhere from a deist to an atheist (who doesn't "go to church") shows how backwards these people are.

110 Bubblehead II  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:36:31pm

re: #101 darthstar

WTF?

111 jamesfirecat  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:36:33pm

re: #98 ProGunLiberal

My prediction for the election, based off of Nate Silver.

303-235

After this election, with the evil seen from the Republicans, the Democrats need to use the Demographics to their advantage to deprive Republicans all levers of power at the Federal Level (Presidency, Senate, and House) and subsequently use that to impeach both Scalia and Thomas for their corruption. Then use that power to push for heavy reforms economically. If we need to, see if any Hardline Democratic states have internal disputes with fissioning the state into 2 Democratic states, giving us 2 more senators for each instance of this.

The Demographic Shift should be able to have the US look like this by 2028. I am counting on Atlanta being able to, with 16 years, flip Georgia, and for increased immigration from the Arab and South Asian Countries to continue, going to areas with already high concentrations, shifting those states too. That could shift Tennessee (Nashville has highest concentration of Kurds in the US) and Indiana (Heavy Arab Population in Great Lakes region in general. Hispanics count for the rest.

"If we need to, see if any Hardline Democratic states have internal disputes with fissioning the state into 2 Democratic states, giving us 2 more senators for each instance of this."

The F**k is this? Seriously... I can't come up with any more coherent reply than that....

112 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:36:41pm

I do actually think that, while my politics haven't shifted by personality has, which has affected the why I think of it.

Or, to put it simply, since last, I have went from Scandinavian Social Democracy, to Turkish Social Democracy.

113 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:38:26pm

re: #112 ProGunLiberal

I do actually think that, while my politics haven't shifted by personality has, which has affected the why I think of it.

Or, to put it simply, since last, I have went from Scandinavian Social Democracy, to Turkish Social Democracy.

Syntax of this comment shows you are having trouble. Are you squared away medically?

114 darthstar  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:38:52pm
115 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:39:30pm

re: #111 jamesfirecat

-deleted-

116 SpaceJesus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:39:39pm
117 darthstar  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:40:34pm
118 Stanghazi  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:40:59pm

re: #102 Sheila Broflovski

Have you heard anything from CuriousLurker? I am very worried about her.

I just read that Christie himself is still without power, so I'm hoping thats the issue. But as one of her online sisters, I'm demanding she get to wifi now and check in.

119 SpaceJesus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:41:07pm

Obummer drew a 30k crowd in Florida this afternoon

120 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:41:12pm

re: #113 Decatur Deb

I don't write well. Read too many TCRs from the NHC when I was in High School.

Basicallu, I have gotten more cynical about other people. This has translated into me becoming a little bit more like Ataturk, minus the Hyper-nationalism.

121 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:41:18pm

re: #105 Achilles Tang

That's standard fare at right wing websites. It's depressing enough to wonder how we ever got where we are as homo sapiens (which I suspect many of these illiterates would not want to belong to on semantic grounds).

They'd object to being called "homo". I'd object to calling them "sapiens".

122 darthstar  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:41:30pm

re: #116 SpaceJesus

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OH-WI-NV - Makes Iowa and Florida irrelevant.

123 darthstar  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:42:19pm

re: #119 SpaceJesus

Obummer drew a 30k crowd in Florida this afternoon

Romney drew a 30K crowd the other day. Secret service said 15K went through the gates, but Romney's campaign quickly pointed out that they also had to leave, ergo 30K.

124 dragonath  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:42:29pm

re: #100 ProGunLiberal

Tactics that have delivered the moderate wing of the Republican party to the Democrats.

It would effectively say to disaffected Republicans and Independents

"We think your opinions suck so much we gerrymandered you out of politics."

I would not wish to have it done to me as a Democrat, and I would vehemently oppose such policies from whatever party they originate from.

Please. This world really doesn't need another Columbia.

125 jamesfirecat  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:42:45pm

re: #115 ProGunLiberal

I mean, for example, that Upstate and Downstate New York could split. With Buffalo and a few of the other centers, Upstate would remain safe. However, that would also represent a gain of 2 Democratic Senators.

Do this cases where there are irreconcilable differences between Democratic states where both would remain Democratic.

I know what you're saying.... but it is insane.

It would lead to Republican's doing the same thing whenever they could also... it would lead to America nation of countless "states" made up of five people, either four democrats and one Republican /undecided (so that two of the democrats can be senators) or vice versa...

Do you not really how crazy it would be to start dividing up states to try and get more senators on one side or the other?

126 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:43:17pm

This is a TCR, or Tropical Cyclone Report.

This one is for Hurricane Epsilon, a fascinating system in 2005. My writing style is usually like this.

127 Gus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:43:25pm

Whoa!

They weren't allowed to leave because of "security concerns." More to come I'm sure.

128 SpaceJesus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:43:36pm

re: #122 darthstar


Backups never hurt

129 The Mountain That Blogs  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:43:40pm

re: #122 darthstar

And if Obama takes Iowa, Colorado, and Nevada, it makes Ohio and Virginia irrelevant. [Link: www.270towin.com...]

130 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:44:34pm

re: #120 ProGunLiberal


It was not your normal recent style.

131 jaunte  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:44:58pm

re: #127 Gus

Whoa!

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They weren't allowed to leave because of "security concerns." More to come I'm sure.

You can beat the Romney but you can't beat the ride.

132 darthstar  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:45:06pm


133 Gus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:45:10pm
134 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:46:45pm

re: #133 Gus

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I'm sure the FEMA flag and declaration it's actually a camp set up by the secret Obama army will occur shortly.
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135 blueraven  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:46:51pm

National Geographic

Seal Team Six: The Raid on Osama bin Laden
Tonight 8ET
Repeated at 11pm (run time 2 hrs)

136 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:46:58pm

re: #131 jaunte

You can beat the Romney but you can't beat the ride.

You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.

137 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:47:04pm

re: #130 Decatur Deb

-so f*ing deleted-

138 darthstar  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:47:08pm

re: #127 Gus

Whoa!

[Embedded content]

They weren't allowed to leave because of "security concerns." More to come I'm sure.

Talk about a captive audience.

This will get some play in the news.

139 dragonath  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:47:35pm

re: #127 Gus

It sounds like that Simpsons episode where President Flanders forces everybody to smile.

140 Gus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:47:43pm

re: #138 darthstar

Talk about a captive audience.

This will get some play in the news.

Hell hath no fury like an old guy that needs to take a leak.

//

141 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:48:05pm

...

142 jaunte  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:48:14pm

"Stay inside the stadium and HOLD UP YOUR CANNED GOODS!"

143 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:48:36pm

re: #124 dragonath

re: #125 jamesfirecat

And yes, I should think of ways de-cynicize.

Then I will be less likely to come up with ideas like that.

144 efuseakay  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:49:16pm

re: #127 Gus

Whoa!

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They weren't allowed to leave because of "security concerns." More to come I'm sure.

They need everyone to stand still for those iPhone panorama shots!

145 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:49:22pm

re: #141 Decatur Deb

Which ones?

146 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:49:50pm

re: #145 ProGunLiberal

Which ones?

Workplace.

147 jamesfirecat  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:50:05pm

re: #143 ProGunLiberal

re: #125 jamesfirecat

And yes, I should think of ways de-cynicize.

Then I will be less likely to come up with ideas like that.

Watch two episodes of My Little Pony Friendship is magic and call me in the morning.

148 darthstar  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:50:34pm

re: #140 Gus

Hell hath no fury like an old guy that needs to take a leak.

//

It's a farm...pee anywhere.

149 efuseakay  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:50:56pm

re: #127 Gus

Whoa!

[Embedded content]

They weren't allowed to leave because of "security concerns." More to come I'm sure.

(Yes, I know... my 2nd reply...)

Security concerns? They must have spotted an African American in the crowd.

150 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:51:07pm

re: #148 darthstar

It's a farm...pee anywhere.

Let it trickle down.

151 dragonath  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:51:09pm

Pandemonium!

152 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:51:27pm

re: #137 ProGunLiberal

Work wasn't good today either. I got check orders from the Crypt Keeper guild. 20-40 minute calls, having to explain the same thing at least 3 times on average, and people yelling alot.

I work at xxxxxxxxxx.

Ixnay on the orkplaceway amenay...

153 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:51:48pm

re: #146 Decatur Deb

Ah.

Me being socially dumb, can you explain why having that up is a bad thing? I will delete it, just want the logic.

154 darthstar  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:52:39pm

Okay...need to mow the lawn before the sun goes down...bbl.

155 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:52:48pm

...

156 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:53:13pm

re: #155 Decatur Deb

And it is the 50 million pound gorilla I missed.

157 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:53:27pm

re: #153 ProGunLiberal

Ah.

Me being socially dumb, can you explain why having that up is a bad thing? I will delete it, just want the logic.

It's up to you, but I'd rather not put my employer's name out there if it's not necessary, especially when there are those out there with bad intent.

158 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:53:46pm

re: #152 MittDoesNotCompute

Try to pencil that out, we're just multiplying it.

159 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:54:38pm

re: #155 Decatur Deb

Though, seriously, don't they have other things to do? Work? Have fun? Be with other people and not a computer. I'm only on here a few hours a day, and at night.

It's pathetic that this is their life. Kinda sad.

160 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:56:08pm

re: #159 ProGunLiberal

And need to clarify. My sleep schedule is crumpled at both ends, allowing me a maximum of 6 hours.

Guess what those 2 hours are used for.

161 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:56:26pm

...

162 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:56:30pm

I have to admit, I am surprised and pleased by the quality of my American-made daily driver. It compares favorably with foreign imports in fuel economy, far eclipses all but the German cars in safety, and we got a lot more value for our money size-wise than we would've buying an import. Moral of the story? Thanks for bailing out Detroit, and a pox on all who say that was a bad idea.

163 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:58:57pm

re: #158 Decatur Deb

Try to pencil that out, we're just multiplying it.

Already thought of that and it's done.

164 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 4:59:07pm

re: #162 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

My parents want a Leaf, and I eventually want a Volt.

Now, full electric vehicles are an awesome thing that need to be supported, but me buying a leaf is out of the question.

Why? It's front looks like a bug.

Will heavily think about the full-Electric Honda Fit and the full-Electric Honda Insight though. But I like the Chevrolet Volt.

165 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:00:48pm

re: #164 ProGunLiberal

Check Consumer Reports record of repairs.

166 efuseakay  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:01:18pm

lol @ The Simpsons/Homer voting for Romney...

167 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:01:23pm

re: #164 ProGunLiberal

My parents want a Leaf, and I eventually want a Volt.

Now, full electric vehicles are an awesome thing that need to be supported, but me buying a leaf is out of the question.

Why? It's front looks like a bug.

Will heavily think about the full-Electric Honda Fit and the full-Electric Honda Insight though. But I like the Chevrolet Volt.

Full electric vehicles, as I've mentioned elsewhere, have a purpose. For people that live in my sort of situation, they are impractical. I am a big proponent of diesel power and of biodiesel production, with the hope that someone will discover a winterizing formula for B100 biodiesel that will make it practical.

168 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:02:17pm

re: #165 PhillyPretzel

Electric Vehicles need more repairs?

Sorry, I can't drive a car where it looks like an ant's eyes have been screwed onto the front.

169 efuseakay  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:03:04pm

re: #168 ProGunLiberal

Electric Vehicles need more repairs?

Sorry, I can't drive a car where it looks like an ant's eyes have been screwed onto the front.

Just drive everywhere in reverse.

170 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:03:37pm

re: #169 efuseakay

Mythbusters strongly discourage that chicanery, and I listen to them.

171 JamesWI  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:03:43pm

re: #138 darthstar

Talk about a captive audience.

This will get some play in the news.

You clearly haven't been paying attention to the "news" during this race. I seriously doubt anyone will be talking about it.

172 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:04:42pm

re: #168 ProGunLiberal

Independent testing of vehicles and other items. [Link: www.consumerreports.org...]

173 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:05:13pm

The Prius got Sephiroth to advertise for them, FYI.

174 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:09:23pm
175 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:10:08pm

re: #174 Sheila Broflovski

lol But true.

176 jamesfirecat  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:10:47pm

re: #173 ProGunLiberal

The Prius got Sephiroth to advertise for them, FYI.

Link?

177 geoduck  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:12:40pm

re: #168 ProGunLiberal

Sorry, I can't drive a car where it looks like an ant's eyes have been screwed onto the front.

Really go with it and add a pair of antenna.

178 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:14:46pm

re: #176 jamesfirecat

Here is one of the commercials.

179 darthstar  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:15:23pm
180 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:16:26pm

Temps in the Philly area should be about 40.

181 jamesfirecat  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:17:14pm

re: #178 ProGunLiberal

Here is one of the commercials.

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To be fair if that's who I think it is... it's not just Sephiroth, it's also Superman.

182 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:18:00pm

re: #181 jamesfirecat

Yep.

My mom actually likes FF7 a little bit.

Why? Look at who voices Cloud.

183 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:18:06pm

re: #180 Decatur Deb

On election day yes it will be in that range.

184 Digital Display  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:20:17pm

So.. We are finally at the finish line...What is going to be your favorite story from the last year? Mine is the clown car debates during the GOP debates.
Both Charles and I and many others agreed it would be Mitt, Cause everybody else was batshit crazy yet Mitt was so strong everybody else was the leader after each debate..You can't write better comedy from DC.

185 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:22:43pm

re: #183 PhillyPretzel

On election day yes it will be in that range.

Found the rally site--Yardley. It's 43 now, probably a little warmer when they started.

186 bratwurst  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:23:48pm

re: #184 Digital Display

So.. We are finally at the finish line...What is going to be your favorite story from the last year?

Definitely the whole Herman Cain saga...it was what is known in the world of professional wrestling as a "work".

187 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:23:48pm

re: #133 Gus

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Is she related to rabid lunatic Dennis Kucinich? He does have a daughter named Jakie. Maybe the nut doesn't fall far from the tree.

188 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:23:56pm

re: #185 Decatur Deb

Just heard on local all news station that Romney's motorcade has blocked up some traffic.

189 darthstar  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:27:08pm

re: #187 Killgore Trout

Is she related to rabid lunatic Dennis Kucinich? He does have a daughter named Jakie. Maybe the nut doesn't fall far from the tree.

FUCK YOU AND YOUR KUCINICH HATE. Dennis Kucinich may be a pacifist, a vegan, a liberal/progressive, and have a hot fucking wife, but don't think you can flog him any time you want. He was one of the few voices (besides Barack Obama, YOUR FUCKING PRESIDENT--whether you like it or not) who spoke out against the invasion of Iraq from day 1. And he was right. Congress is going to suck even more without him.

190 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:28:05pm

re: #189 darthstar

This is one time I will agree with Killgore. Kucinich is a weasel and a traitor.

191 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:29:32pm

re: #190 ProGunLiberal

This is one time I will agree with Killgore. Kucinich is a weasel and a traitor.

I don't know about the weasel/traitor thing but he's certainly nutty as a fruitcake.

192 jamesfirecat  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:30:12pm

re: #190 ProGunLiberal

This is one time I will agree with Killgore. Kucinich is a weasel and a traitor.

Because he has said/done what?

193 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:30:51pm

re: #187 Killgore Trout

Yes, that is his daughter (by his 2nd wife), who also happens to write for USA Today. As for the rest of your comment, it doesn't warrant a response.

194 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:32:36pm

re: #190 ProGunLiberal

This is one time I will agree with Killgore. Kucinich is a weasel and a traitor.

So? What does that have to do with his daughter reporting at a Romney rally?

195 Stanghazi  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:33:09pm

Omg, without fail

196 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:33:24pm

re: #192 jamesfirecat

This:

On August 31, Al Jazeera reported that a document had been found in the headquarters of the Libyan intelligence agency which according to the author appears to be a summary of a conversation between Kucinich and an intermediary for Saif al-Islam Gaddafi in which the congressman asked for information about the anti-Gaddafi National Transitional Council (NTC), possible links of it to al-Qaeda and corruption evidences, to lobby US lawmakers to put an end to NATO airstrikes and suspend their support for the NTC.[137] It also listed information necessary to defend Saif al-Islam against International Criminal Court war crimes charges.

He also has a history of flip-flopping (on abortion), and being nutty, as detailed here

I wish he could be prosecuted for the first one though.

197 Gus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:33:51pm

re: #193 MittDoesNotCompute

Yes, that is his daughter (by his 2nd wife), who also happens to write for USA Today. As for the rest of your comment, it doesn't warrant a response.

Yeah, I saw Kucinich and actually did a double take. But then I saw she was working for USA Today so I ran with it. ;)

198 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:34:31pm

re: #194 Sheila Broflovski

No, somebody was saying something about Dennis.

His daughter seems to be okay though. She isn't responsible for the sins of her father. She must be judged on her own merits.

199 alpuz  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:34:54pm

re: #191 Killgore Trout

As are you, my man. As are you.

200 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:35:08pm

[Link: www.people-press.org...]

Barack Obama has edged ahead of Mitt Romney in the final days of the presidential campaign. In the Pew Research Center’s election weekend survey, Obama holds a 48% to 45% lead over Romney among likely voters.

201 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:35:14pm

re: #194 Sheila Broflovski

So? What does that have to do with his daughter reporting at a Romney rally?

Rand Paul isn't a very reliable source of information either. Sometimes this stuff runs in the family. I suppose it's possible that Mitt is holding a crowd of people captive but Kuchinich's daughter might not be a reliable source for that information.

202 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:35:37pm

re: #200 Aye Pod

Evenin' {Jimmah}. Hope you and the frosty one are doing well across the pond.

203 jaunte  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:35:57pm
204 gwangung  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:36:21pm

re: #201 Killgore Trout

Rand Paul isn't a very reliable source of information either. Sometimes this stuff runs in the family.

Most of the time it doesn't.

This is the essence of ad hominen. Certainly not worthy of you.

205 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:37:02pm

re: #201 Killgore Trout

Please don't judge the daughter based on Dennis.

Children can fall far from the tree, so to speak.

Doesn't mean I don't despise Dennis Kucinich.

206 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:37:25pm

re: #187 Killgore Trout

Please don't feed the Troll.

207 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:38:31pm

re: #201 Killgore Trout

Rand Paul isn't a very reliable source of information either. Sometimes this stuff runs in the family. I suppose it's possible that Mitt is holding a crowd of people captive but Kuchinich's daughter might not be a reliable source for that information.

Anything's possible, but I think the fact that she writes in the politics section of USA Today (a mainstream rag, if ever there was one) and that her Twitter account says as much adds a little more credibility to what she's saying than ol' Aqua Buddha.

208 wrenchwench  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:39:34pm

Are the rotating aphorisms a thing of the past?

209 Gus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:39:44pm

re: #201 Killgore Trout

Rand Paul isn't a very reliable source of information either. Sometimes this stuff runs in the family. I suppose it's possible that Mitt is holding a crowd of people captive but Kuchinich's daughter might not be a reliable source for that information.

OK, now you're getting weird.

210 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:39:55pm

re: #207 MittDoesNotCompute

Exactly!

She seems to have gotten her father's helping of sanity.

211 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:40:44pm

re: #205 ProGunLiberal

Please don't judge the daughter based on Dennis.

Children can fall far from the tree, so to speak.

Doesn't mean I don't despise Dennis Kucinich.

I strongly suspect the story the story isn't being accurately reported. The fact that it comes from the family of one of our looniest politicians doesn't help the credibility on this one.

212 Four More Tears  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:41:05pm

re: #195 Page 3 in the Binder of Women

Omg, without fail

As predictable as the tide.

213 Gus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:42:02pm

re: #211 Killgore Trout

I strongly suspect the story the story isn't being accurately reported. The fact that it comes from the family of one of our looniest politicians doesn't help the credibility on this one.

You seem to have your panties in a bunch over this. I'm doing other things here. Listening to Obama. Looking up green bud in Google. Having a drink. Going out to smoke.

214 blueraven  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:42:24pm

re: #211 Killgore Trout

I strongly suspect the story the story isn't being accurately reported. The fact that it comes from the family of one of our looniest politicians doesn't help the credibility on this one.

There is no story. There are tweets. At least wait for the full story before you attack.

215 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:42:32pm

re: #202 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

Evenin' {Jimmah}. Hope you and the frosty one are doing well across the pond.

Thanks dude - hope you are too!

Got a new job, actually liking it, and looking forward to thanksgiving, which is a new but very welcome tradition here.) We're both on tenterhooks about the election, as I'm sure most here are. I managed to book wednesday off so we can both stay up through the night to follow the results. Alcohol will be involved, to be sure :)

216 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:42:34pm

My son is enraptured by Mythbusters. Looks like there will be yet another engineer/do-it-yourselfer in the fish family.

217 gwangung  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:42:43pm

re: #211 Killgore Trout

I strongly suspect the story the story isn't being accurately reported. The fact that it comes from the family of one of our looniest politicians doesn't help the credibility on this one.

Um, Kucinich isn't Republican...

218 jaunte  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:42:53pm


The rest of Ashley Parker's family is locked away in Arkham Asylum.

219 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:43:00pm

Jackie Kucinich is not the only person tweeting about this Romney FAIL

220 Bubblehead II  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:43:06pm

re: #191 Killgore Trout

I don't know about the weasel/traitor thing but he's certainly nutty as a fruitcake.

LOA. You got that right.

Chem Trails. And other weird off the wall stuff. But that doesn't mean his daughter is a whack job.

Hell, my Dad is a dyed in the wool racist. Does that make one as well?

221 darthstar  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:43:17pm

Did somebody say "green bud?"

222 Gus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:43:25pm

re: #214 blueraven

There is no story. There are tweets. At least wait for the full story before you attack.

Seriously. I'm always ready for a correction. KT's in panic mode.

223 Gus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:43:37pm

Roger that. Someone did. Over.

224 makeitstopghazi  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:43:43pm

re: #213 Gus

You seem to have your panties in a bunch over this.

Troutrage!

225 Joanne  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:44:17pm

re: #166 efuseakay

lol @ The Simpsons/Homer voting for Romney...

Did he say why? :-)

Important to know, donchano.

226 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:44:40pm
227 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:44:44pm

re: #224 makeitstop

What do enraged trout look like anyways?

228 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:45:02pm

re: #215 Aye Pod

Thanks dude - hope you are too!

Got a new job, actually liking it, and looking forward to thanksgiving, which is a new but very welcome tradition here. We're both on tenterhooks about the election, as I'm sure most here are. I managed to book wednesday off so we can both stay up through the night to follow the results. Alcohol will be involved, to be sure :)

Awesome, congrats on the job. I've been doing well, been under a bit of job-related stress for about a month that came to a very nasty head on Friday, but an encouraging email from my boss wiped most of the stress away. I am not terribly worried about Tuesday's election, I am totally psyched to finally get in the voting booth for the first time in 12 years and do my little part to help. The Mrs. Fish and the fishspawn are doing very well.

229 efuseakay  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:45:09pm

re: #209 Gus

OK, now you're getting weird.

Getting?

230 b_snark  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:45:23pm

re: #215 Aye Pod

Thanks dude - hope you are too!

Got a new job, actually liking it, and looking forward to thanksgiving, which is a new but very welcome tradition here. We're both on tenterhooks about the election, as I'm sure most here are. I managed to book wednesday off so we can both stay up through the night to follow the results. Alcohol will be involved, to be sure :)

Tenterhooks?
Finally, somebody who doesn't use 'tender hooks'.

231 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:46:17pm

re: #230 b_sharp

Tenterhooks?
Finally, somebody who doesn't use 'tender hooks'.

Let me just add, "bated breath".

232 Gus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:47:07pm

re: #229 efuseakay

Getting?

I always strive for diplomacy. ;)

233 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:47:23pm

re: #215 Aye Pod

Thanks dude - hope you are too!

Got a new job, actually liking it, and looking forward to thanksgiving, which is a new but very welcome tradition here. We're both on tenterhooks about the election, as I'm sure most here are. I managed to book wednesday off so we can both stay up through the night to follow the results. Alcohol will be involved, to be sure :)

You and ice still in Scotland or did y'all move (back home, for ice) to the US?

234 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:47:29pm

re: #232 Gus

I always strive diplomacy. ;)

And there goes my bullshit detector./

235 blueraven  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:47:54pm
236 b_snark  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:48:25pm

re: #231 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Let me just add, "bated breath".

You mean it's not 'baited breath'? LOL.

How about 'wrecking havoc'.

237 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:48:50pm

re: #236 b_sharp

You mean it's not 'baited breath'? LOL.

How about 'wrecking havoc'.

My inner grammar Nazi is foaming at the mouth right now.

238 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:49:24pm

re: #230 b_sharp

Tenterhooks?
Finally, somebody who doesn't use 'tender hooks'.

'Tender hooks' sounds like it could be the title of a really fucked up modern art installation.

239 Gus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:49:34pm

re: #234 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

And there goes my bullshit detector./

Irony meter haz blowed up!

240 efuseakay  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:50:07pm

re: #225 Joanne

Did he say why? :-)

Important to know, donchano.

Some imaginary Homer stuff... but when he voted for him, Romney's tax returns flashed on the voting machine, saying the government paid Romney money... then homer got sucked into a giant vacuum while the machine said he was being outsourced to China. It was pretty awesome. :D

241 makeitstopghazi  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:50:22pm

re: #236 b_sharp

You mean it's not 'baited breath'? LOL.

How about 'wrecking havoc'.

I've seen it as 'reeking havoc,' which is even worse.

242 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:50:23pm

re: #233 MittDoesNotCompute

You and ice still in Scotland or did y'all move (back home, for ice) to the US?

Still in Scotland, where the weather is shit, but not cataclysmically so ;-)

243 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:50:28pm

re: #239 Gus

Irony meter haz blowed up!

Just as long as it's not the iron meter. Rust in your drinking water is bad for you.

244 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:50:38pm
245 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:52:54pm

re: #238 Aye Pod

'Tender hooks' sounds like it could be the title of a really fucked up modern art installation.

Pirate porn.

246 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:53:06pm

re: #236 b_sharp

You mean it's not 'baited breath'? LOL.

How about 'wrecking havoc'.

'bare with me'

247 Gus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:53:18pm

Never pass up the opportunity to push a rumor that might hurt the opposing candidate. However small that damage might be.
-- Karl Rover

248 blueraven  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:53:30pm

re: #235 blueraven

[Embedded content]

jamesfirecat, you dont like this poll result? Have you switched on us?
/

249 b_snark  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:53:39pm

re: #246 Aye Pod

'bare with me'

That one has its uses.

250 efuseakay  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:53:41pm

re: #245 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Pirate porn.

It must be rated Arrrrrrrrr!!!!!

251 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:53:57pm
252 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:54:20pm

re: #248 blueraven

Yeah, I was curious about that too.

253 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:54:54pm

re: #246 Aye Pod

'bare with me'

I understand Michelle Obama supports the right to bare arms.

254 wrenchwench  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:54:57pm

re: #251 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

...if you haven't already.

255 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:55:07pm

re: #251 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Because depending on your circumstances, it just might.

256 blueraven  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:55:11pm

re: #252 ProGunLiberal

Yeah, I was curious about that too.

fat finger ding I assume. Fixed

257 jamesfirecat  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:55:44pm

re: #248 blueraven

jamesfirecat, you dont like this poll result? Have you switched on us?
/

No but my hand to eye coordination seems to be going on me, as I thought I clicked green, went to do some other stuff and come back to find I clicked red. Just fixed.

258 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:56:05pm

Bedtime here - catch y'all later :)

259 jaunte  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:56:07pm

Tow the line with baited breath to find the just deserts as it's a mute point to pour over carefully.

260 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:56:45pm

re: #259 jaunte

*twitch*

261 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:57:00pm

re: #247 Gus

Never pass up the opportunity to push a rumor that might hurt the opposing candidate. However small that damage might be.
-- Karl Rover

Carry on then. Good luck with that.

262 Gus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:57:02pm

re: #259 jaunte

Tow the line with baited breath to find the just deserts as it's a mute point to pour over carefully.

I like that one alot.

263 Gus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:57:09pm

Waits. //

264 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:57:17pm

re: #257 jamesfirecat

No but my hand to eye coordination seems to be going on me, as I thought I clicked green, went to do some other stuff and come back to find I clicked red. Just fixed.

How do you undo a downding?

265 b_snark  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:57:26pm

re: #259 jaunte

Tow the line with baited breath to find the just deserts as it's a mute point to pour over carefully.

You did that with way too much ease.

266 wrenchwench  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:57:27pm

re: #259 jaunte

Tow the line with baited breath to find the just deserts as it's a mute point to pour over carefully.

You should reign in that string of errors before you rein on my parade.

267 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:57:29pm

re: #259 jaunte

Are you going for the record? If so I think you are close.

268 jaunte  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:57:50pm

re: #265 b_sharp

Viola!

269 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:58:02pm

re: #259 jaunte

Tow the line with baited breath to find the just deserts as it's a mute point to pour over carefully.

"Just deserts" is in fact correct. The word is related to "deserve", so only 1 's'.

270 jamesfirecat  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:58:04pm

re: #264 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

How do you undo a downding?

You click the green button once to make it go away and then click the green button again to make it an upding.

271 Gus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:58:10pm

re: #261 Killgore Trout

Carry on then. Good luck with that.

I've got nothing to loose.

272 jaunte  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:58:31pm

re: #269 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Dam, I maid a mistake.

273 Gus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:58:58pm

re: #272 jaunte

Dam, I maid a mistake.

Your doing it right.

274 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:59:46pm

re: #268 jaunte

Viola!

Viola d' Ingres

[Link: operachic.typepad.com...]

275 jaunte  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:59:47pm
276 b_snark  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:59:49pm

re: #268 jaunte

Viola!

Chello.

277 jamesfirecat  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 5:59:59pm

re: #272 jaunte

Dam, I maid a mistake.

Your the kind of person I want to get to no better.

278 jaunte  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 6:00:05pm

re: #274 Decatur Deb

Arrr!

279 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 6:00:24pm

re: #270 jamesfirecat

You click the green button once to make it go away and then click the green button again to make it an upding.

That's strange. I've given the occasional accidental downding in the past, and when I clicked the green 'plus' it didn't appear to remove the downding, it just showed both and upding and a downding from me. Maybe clicking the second time is the charm.

280 b_snark  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 6:00:53pm

re: #272 jaunte

Dam, I maid a mistake.

Like I said, you are good at this.

281 Gus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 6:01:02pm

re: #276 b_sharp

Chello.

They hate us because are freedoms.

282 jamesfirecat  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 6:02:30pm

re: #279 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

That's strange. I've given the occasional accidental downding in the past, and when I clicked the green 'plus' it didn't appear to remove the downding, it just showed both and upding and a downding from me. Maybe clicking the second time is the charm.

Clicking on the plus button once nullifies the downding, clicking on it a second time updings it.

283 jamesfirecat  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 6:03:27pm

re: #281 Gus

They hate us because are freedoms.

My Wherewolf character needs to inspect the merchants weres to figure out what he'll were tonight.

284 Gus  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 6:03:28pm

re: #282 jamesfirecat

Clicking on the plus button once nullifies the downding, clicking on it a second time updings it.

It's like a three way switch.

285 efuseakay  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 6:04:03pm

Frontline here in Chicago tonight about Citizens United/campaign financing... quite interesting, to say the least...

286 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 6:05:14pm

re: #273 Gus

Your doing it right.

UR DOING IT RONG

///

287 efuseakay  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 6:07:31pm

Two yoots!

288 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 6:08:00pm

re: #287 efuseakay

Two yoots!

What is a 'yoot'?

/

289 b_snark  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 6:08:46pm

What have I started...

290 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 6:17:11pm

re: #289 b_sharp

Oh, b_sharp, what hast thou rot!

291 AntonSirius  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 6:58:04pm

re: #223 Gus

Roger that. Someone did. Over.

Roger, Roger. We've got clearance, Clarence. What's our vector, Victor?

292 AntonSirius  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 7:05:22pm

re: #241 makeitstop

I've seen it as 'reeking havoc,' which is even worse.

'Reeking havoc' at least has a certain Lovecraftian poetry to it. "The fetid chaos lurched closed as I stood, paralyzed with horror..."

293 Mentis Fugit  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 7:05:24pm

re: #273 Gus

Your doing it right.

Here here!


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