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1 Four More Tears  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:01:33pm

About time you've come to your senses, Chuckieghazi...

2 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:02:36pm

Birth certificateghazi!

3 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:03:06pm

It's amazing that this guy was a baseball stats geek, and is now the prognosticator extraordinaire. Because he lets the stats do the talking and his analysis is pretty good.

4 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:05:20pm

re: #3 lawhawk

It's amazing that this guy was a baseball stats geek, and is now the prognosticator extraordinaire. Because he lets the stats do the talking and his analysis is pretty good.

His analysis is actually pretty much follow your nose statistics. It works because it is so mathematically straightforward. I'm actually rather shocked that people weren't doing this before.

5 JamesWI  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:07:08pm

Sorry, too thin and effeminate-sounding. Can't trust him.

6 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:07:17pm

re: #3 lawhawk

It's amazing that this guy was a baseball stats geek, and is now the prognosticator extraordinaire. Because he lets the stats do the talking and his analysis is pretty good.

Think the big part of his appeal is he explains the reasoning behind his predictions, has actually explained his model (bit wordy for my tastes, but still), and doesn't play fast and loose with his own rules in order to junk polls he doesn't like (lookin' at you, RCP).

7 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:07:23pm

re: #4 Almost Killed by Space Hookers

His analysis is actually pretty follow your nose statistics. It works because it is so mathematically straightforward. I'm actually rather shocked that people weren't doing this before.

RAZOR TIGHT!

8 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:09:34pm

re: #4 Almost Killed by Space Hookers

Baseball has always been ruled by stats, but it took Bill James to come along and devise a whole different set of stats that can help judge performance better.

Silver is from that school of thought.

Now, if we can get Silver to work on economics, we'd be much better off...

9 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:09:39pm

Instahack:

FOREWARNED: Brad Thor: I Have It From A Reliable Source In the Chicago Camp That Obama Plans To Declare Victory Early Tomorrow, In Order to Demoralize Romney Voters. And of course they count on the media. They lie. Ignore them. Get word of mouth out. Tell all your conservative friends and relatives to ignore them too. The answer to this is always “Yeah, Obama voters dominate early voting. And then the conservatives get off work.”

10 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:11:27pm
Stephen Colbert Interviews Nate Silver: “Are You Trying to Put the Pundits Out of Work?”

If he is, he's got my support. Where do I donate?

11 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:12:40pm

Definitely want to read his book and read some of his stuff on baseball. I've never been a big math fan but probability and stuff like that did interest me a little in the few upper division math classes I took.

12 sagehen  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:14:08pm

I also like that he's not shy about his partisan leanings, while making clear that it doesn't affect his analysis. Sometimes he'll say "I'm very unhappy that this is what the data predicts, it's not my preferred outcome but math is math."

13 Gus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:15:05pm

re: #9 BARACK THE VOTE

Instahack:

So dumb.

14 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:15:17pm

re: #12 sagehen

I also like that he's not shy about his partisan leanings, while making clear that it doesn't affect his analysis. Sometimes he'll say "I'm very unhappy that this is what the data predicts, it's not my preferred outcome but math is math."

Which is why he's a better analyst than unskewed polls guy who lets his biases effect his work.

15 Mattand  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:15:25pm

Nothing to say. Just wanted to try out the Benghazi flavored screen name.

16 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:15:53pm

re: #13 Gus

So dumb.

I'm seeing it in other places too, it's the conspiracy theory du jour for wingnuts.

17 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:16:03pm

re: #15 Kung Fughazi

Nothing to say. Just wanted to try out the Benghazi flavored screen name.

Me too.

18 Interesting Times  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:16:32pm

Think about whatever it is you do for a living, and then imagine the consequences you'd face if you had a track record of "success" consistent with that of the average pundit.*

*Banging-head-against-wall afterwards optional.

19 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:16:49pm

re: #12 sagehen

I also like that he's not shy about his partisan leanings, while making clear that it doesn't affect his analysis. Sometimes he'll say "I'm very unhappy that this is what the data predicts, it's not my preferred outcome but math is math."

Agreed. I have been a little concerned that his predictions of an Obama win might be a little optimistic but I do think he's honest and thorough. He's a great reminder that being partisan doesn't have to mean being dishonest.

20 Mattand  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:17:44pm

re: #13 Gus

re: #16 BARACK THE VOTE

Brad Thor. Oookay.

Although his step brother Tad Loki is a nice guy.

21 Skip Intro  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:18:23pm

re: #5 JamesWI

Sorry, too thin and effeminate-sounding. Can't trust him.

Jonah Goldberg has this leftwing tool in his sights. No one's going to screw with the far right's faith-based math while Lucianne's little boy is on the job.

Goldberg: Nate Silver's numbers racket.

22 Mattand  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:18:51pm

re: #19 Killgore Trout

Agreed. I have been a little concerned that his predictions of an Obama win might be a little optimistic but I do think he's honest and thorough. He's a great reminder that being partisan doesn't have to mean being dishonest.

Perfect description of Rachel Maddow.

23 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:19:27pm

A good point to mention to those who think Nate is just being a partisan because he likes and worked for Obama is that he was pointing to a Walker victory in Wisconsin during that recall and he pretty much was accurate about the midterms too. In fact, he actually slightly overestimated how the Republicans would do that year. A partisan hack wouldn't do that. He's good at what he does. Makes me understand and appreciate math more. Plus his articles are always informative because there's some history thrown in there from time to time too.

24 darthstar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:19:28pm
25 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:19:48pm

I love that Silver had his laptop running the numbers back in the dressing room.

26 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:20:04pm

re: #21 Skip Intro

Jonah Goldberg has this leftwing tool in his sights. No one's going to screw with the far right's faith-based math while Lucianne's little boy is on the job.

Goldberg: Nate Silver's numbers racket.

Fight the power, Jonah!

27 bubba zanetti  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:21:05pm

re: #5 JamesWI

Sorry, too thin and effeminate-sounding. Can't trust him.

No gay man would go on TV with the tailoring on the jacket. No way.

28 Gus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:21:34pm

re: #16 BARACK THE VOTE

I'm seeing it in other places too, it's the conspiracy theory du jour for wingnuts.

Instapundit --> Ace of Spades --> The Blaze...

Weapons of Mass Derp (WMDs)

29 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:21:45pm

Don't get me wrong; I do understand that math can be ironclad. We know the decay rates of isotopes, how fast things will fall in a vacuum, what compounded interest rates will yield and all that.

But I like to think that people are different, more open to reason, and that the soul — particularly when multiplied into the complexity of a society — is not so easily number-crunched.

God, Jonah Goldberg is such a tool.

30 Obdicut  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:22:21pm

re: #24 darthstar

I love voter suppression logic. Women voting is bad because if they're married and they vote they either annul or double their husband's vote. It's a semantically true statement that is abso-fucking-lutely meaningless. You could use that logic to say that only one person should be allowed to vote, because any other person would just double or annul his vote.

31 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:22:45pm

Nate Silver's model is wrong because it leaves out the SOUL! derp

32 Gus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:23:22pm

re: #29 BARACK THE VOTE

God, Jonah Goldberg is such a tool.

Shorter Doughy Pantload: I hate these numbers.

33 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:23:39pm

re: #29 BARACK THE VOTE

God, Jonah Goldberg is such a tool.

You know the more I hear crap like this, the more Nate looks like what he knows what he's doing.

34 Gus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:23:51pm

re: #31 BARACK THE VOTE

Clearly this means only one thing! Nate Silver is an atheist!

35 Obdicut  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:23:55pm

re: #29 BARACK THE VOTE

God, Jonah Goldberg is such a tool.

The decay rates of isotopes are a probability. After something's half-life, you can predict that about half of the unstable element will have converted, but just 'about'. You might get something decaying more rapidly, or less. Famously, this is why isotope decay is used in some Heisenberg thought experiments as an example of a random and non-predictable event.

So he's like, double-wrong.

36 JamesWI  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:24:28pm

re: #21 Skip Intro

Jonah Goldberg has this leftwing tool in his sights. No one's going to screw with the far right's faith-based math while Lucianne's little boy is on the job.

Goldberg: Nate Silver's numbers racket.

LOL

I'm not saying Silver's just lucky or shoveling garbage. He's a serious numbers guy. But so are the folks at the University of Colorado's political science department whose own model is based on economic indicators. Its Oct. 4 findings predict Romney will win, as do others.

The point is, the models are all over the map. They can't all be right

The models aren't all over the map. There's A model, which simply looks at the economy and says "Hey, the economy isn't great under this President, people probably won't vote for him." And then there's all the other models, which actually look at what voters are actually saying.

37 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:25:34pm

re: #32 Gus

Shorter Doughy Pantload: I hate these numbers.

Everything Jonah Goldberg writes should come with a disclaimer reading "This man seriously tried to claim Hitler was a vegetarian, and thus liberals are affiliated with Nazis."

Articles. Birthday cards. Signed receipts.

38 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:25:40pm

re: #13 Gus

So dumb.

...

Frank says:

The person who stands up and says, "This is stupid," either is asked to 'behave' or, worse, is greeted with a cheerful "Yes, we know! Isn't it terrific!"

Gosh, that sounds familiar....

39 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:25:48pm

They really want this to be Dewey defeats Truman 2.0. Mitt Romney is no Harry Truman.

40 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:26:00pm

The joys of working with morons:

"ALL YOUR FILES ARE CORRUPTED! YOU NEED TO REDO THEM ALL! YOU MESSED UP!!!"

"I'm in the process of copying the files now, I haven't even sent out the email notification saying they were ready. You were trying to open files which hadn't completely copied over to the group share. Why were you trying to access them before then?"

"Oh... never mind.

41 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:27:10pm

re: #37 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea

re: #32 Gus

Everything Jonah Goldberg writes should come with a disclaimer reading "This man seriously tried to claim Hitler was a vegetarian, and thus liberals are affiliated with Nazis."

Articles. Birthday cards. Signed receipts.

He's got a book called liberal fascism out for crying out loud. I mean there's a point that fascism is different from traditional European conservatism but it is not of the left. Doughy Pantload should stick to pretending to beat up vegan student leftists.

42 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:27:19pm

ON a more serious and somber note about Nate Silver's stats:

He does them seriously. He does them well. He will be the first to tell you that Romney still has a shot.

He is not saying and has not said "Obama will definitely win."

What he said was, in effect, based on the analysis, and all the poling data he could get his hands on, Obama has a 90% chance of victory.

That means there is a one in ten chance of Romney winning.

Hopefully you would not be stupid enough to get on a plane if the pilot said there is a 10% chance of us crashing with a near 100% chance of you dying in a mangled state if we do.

What we are looking at as a nation is still a 10% chance of Romney and his GOP fascist freaks destroying America.

Hence, any "soul" involved here would be best put to those who pray, praying hard.

43 JamesWI  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:27:25pm

re: #39 HappyBenghazi

They really want this to be Dewey defeats Truman 2.0. Mitt Romney is no Harry Truman.

And back then, there was pretty much only one, simple, national poll. As opposed to hundreds of polls coming out every single day.

44 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:30:28pm

re: #43 JamesWI

And back then, there was pretty much only one, simple, national poll. As opposed to hundreds of polls coming out every single day.

There's another point to that too. They were doing only telephone polling. Still a fair amount of families without telephones then. Your point still stands though. Polling wasn't the science it is now back then. Silver's conclusions strike me as absolutely right. If someone is consistently performing ahead in a poll, they are likely to win that election. It's that simple and Nate has shown evidence to support that but his moronic right wing detractors continue to accuse him of being an Obama mouthpiece because he writes for the Times.

45 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:31:14pm

re: #43 JamesWI

That's the strength of Silver's analysis. He subjects those individual polls to scrutiny and then aggregates them to divine trends and projections of outcomes using the MCM. It isn't quite a crystal ball, but it expands the sample size and reduces margin of error in the process.

Well, that and the fact that he's transparent on his methodologies.

46 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:31:50pm
47 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:33:41pm

re: #36 JamesWI

LOL

The models aren't all over the map. There's A model, which simply looks at the economy and says "Hey, the economy isn't great under this President, people probably won't vote for him." And then there's all the other models, which actually look at what voters are actually saying.

Another bit is that the University of Colorado's model is sold on a false premise, namely that it's correctly "predicted" 8 elections. No, what they did was build a model, use it to correctly predict one election, then apply the model to past elections, taking correct "predictions" as vindication of the model.

By contrast, Silver's model has been used in two elections and been 80-90% accurate. And it's built on actually looking at past polls and running the numbers, instead of trying to fit a model to the numbers.

48 Gus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:34:06pm

re: #31 BARACK THE VOTE

Funny comment:

chunge at 12:11 PM November 06, 2012

Thanks for this complete waste of virtual space, Doughy McPantload. All you managed to say is "Nate Silver is wrong but I can't explain why. Let's just go with because he projects Obama to win."

Tomorrow's gonna be rough for you Mr. Pantload.

49 bratwurst  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:35:09pm

This is the video that just set off the Drudge siren:

50 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:35:31pm

Ohio Viewers Hit By Anti-Obama TV ‘Special’ On Election Eve

ABC affiliate WSYX in Columbus aired a half-hour “election special” twice on Monday night — first at 6:30 p.m. instead of World News with Diane Sawyer, and later at 11:30 p.m., during the slot normally held by Nightline. Rather than a side by side comparison of the two major party candidates, however, the special featured some of the most partisan criticisms of President Barack Obama, and spent relatively little time examining Republican nominee Mitt Romney.

51 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:36:08pm

re: #47 Targetpractice

And none on the right would be crapping all over Silver and his methodologies if his outcomes predicted a Romney win. The numbers are what they are. We'll see tonight whether Silver's model holds up.

52 Lidane  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:36:35pm

re: #21 Skip Intro

Jonah Goldberg has this leftwing tool in his sights. No one's going to screw with the far right's faith-based math while Lucianne's little boy is on the job.

Goldberg: Nate Silver's numbers racket.

Dear Jonah:

Predictably Irrational -- Read it. Learn it. Understand it.

Believe it or not, we're not as clear-headed and rational as we like to think we are.

Also, you're a doughy tool.

No love,
Me

53 Batman  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:37:28pm

I was fortunate to have the day off, and voting was a breeze. Now I can't wait for the circus to start.

54 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:37:28pm

What the Frak. Some people have inane and insane decorating tastes (or think that others will have weird tastes).

55 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:37:55pm

re: #51 lawhawk

And none on the right would be crapping all over Silver and his methodologies if his outcomes predicted a Romney win. The numbers are what they are. We'll see tonight whether Silver's model holds up.

I predict that Silver will probably call one, perhaps two states wrong. My money's on Florida, perhaps Colorado running a close second. But as it stands, Willard would need Silver to have incorrectly predicted 5-6 states or more to win.

56 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:38:41pm

Damn, I just got busted.

"Dude, are you singing a long to a La Roux song?"

"... Noooo."

57 kirkspencer  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:39:30pm

re: #55 Targetpractice

I predict that Silver will probably call one, perhaps two states wrong. My money's on Florida, perhaps Colorado running a close second. But as it stands, Willard would need Silver to have incorrectly predicted 5-6 states or more to win.

So why not North Carolina, or maybe Indiana?

58 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:40:15pm

re: #55 Targetpractice

I predict that Silver will probably call one, perhaps two states wrong. My money's on Florida, perhaps Colorado running a close second. But as it stands, Willard would need Silver to have incorrectly predicted 5-6 states or more to win.

Seeing as Nate has Florida at 50.3% for Obama, I don't think either outcome would make his prediction "wrong".

59 Lidane  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:40:17pm

re: #54 lawhawk

What the Frak. Some people have inane and insane decorating tastes (or think that others will have weird tastes).

Ew, no. I like POTUS, but I'm not buying any housewares to show it.

60 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:41:00pm

re: #57 kirghazi

So why not North Carolina, or maybe Indiana?

Theoretically plausible, but I'm still hanging my hat on Florida if for no other reason than it's a basketcase virtually every election.

61 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:41:02pm

re: #57 kirghazi

So why not North Carolina, or maybe Indiana?

Definitely wouldn't shock me if NC went Obama's way again. I don't expect it but it wouldn't shock me. Indiana honestly less so but who knows, there could be a large amount of voters there who end up voting against Mitt because he's on the same side as Mourdock and surely they know that Mitt backed Mourdock strongly.

62 Gus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:41:26pm

LMAO. Read the timeline here.

Sample:

63 Amory Blaine  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:41:37pm

Yeah I'm not voting because Nate Silver says it's in the bag.
j/k

Just voted. I must've been the last part of the afternoon lull because when I left the line was going out the door and when I came in there was 2 people ahead of me. 2 very gabby people.

64 Gus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:42:04pm

Right wingers are like from a different planet.

65 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:42:07pm
66 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:42:39pm

re: #58 Sophghazi, Gingham Style (AKA Bronco Bama)

Seeing as Nate has Florida at 50.3% for Obama, I don't think either outcome would make his prediction "wrong".

The 1 state he incorrectly predicted in '08 was Indiana, which he had going for McCain even though it went to Obama by 1%.

67 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:42:48pm

re: #54 lawhawk

What the Frak. Some people have inane and insane decorating tastes (or think that others will have weird tastes).

Oh, Jesus Christ. Romney soap, for everyone who wants to rub Mitt's face on their junk. Excuse me, I need to go vomitt.

68 Schadenfreude 'r' Us  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:43:10pm

Guam just went Obama. Too bad their votes don't count.

69 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:44:20pm

re: #68 Someone Please Benghazi Me Up!

Guam just went Obama. Too bad their votes don't count.

That reminds me, the other thing that should get the wingnut hive in a stir would be Puerto Rico voting today to become a state.

70 kirkspencer  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:44:28pm

re: #60 Targetpractice

Theoretically plausible, but I'm still hanging my hat on Florida if for no other reason than it's a basketcase virtually every election.

You said states Silver gets wrong. But you're hanging your hat on a knife-edge and one that's about the same percentage favoring Obama?

I know, trying to buffer the disappointment. But why not push for a bit of extra hope?

71 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:46:00pm

[Link: www.theonion.com...]
This alone is a reason to want Obama-Biden re-elected. With Biden out of a job, no more crazy adventures of Biden on the Onion.

72 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:46:12pm

voting in L.A. county is such a pain in the ass, at least in my part. got sent to 4 different polling locations only to be sent back to the first one (the one the voting site told me to go to). Turns out the poll worker sent me to the wrong table when I showed up the first time.

73 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:46:34pm

re: #70 kirghazi

You said states Silver gets wrong. But you're hanging your hat on a knife-edge and one that's about the same percentage favoring Obama?

I know, trying to buffer the disappointment. But why not push for a bit of extra hope?

I'm a realist, and right now Virginia going blue is about as far as I'm willing to push it. Get my hopes up too high, I'll end up going to bed disappointed.

74 recusancy  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:46:51pm

re: #69 Targetpractice

That reminds me, the other thing that should get the wingnut hive in a stir would be Puerto Rico voting today to become a state.

Are they voting on that today?

75 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:47:20pm

re: #74 recusancy

Are they voting on that today?

Ayep.

76 recusancy  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:49:11pm

re: #75 Targetpractice

Ayep.

Any polling been done on it? I assume even if they voted to become a state our Republicans would block it in Washington. Although I guess I'm not sure how states get added.

77 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:49:23pm

re: #21 Skip Intro

Jonah Goldberg has this leftwing tool in his sights. No one's going to screw with the far right's faith-based math while Lucianne's little boy is on the job.

Goldberg: Nate Silver's numbers racket.

Is it wrong for me to want Goldberg to dip his balls in honey and wander naked through an apiary?

///

78 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:49:23pm

So if Puerto Rico votes yes on that. They'll become a state? This is the longest gap in history we've had in between statehood for states by the way.

79 Lidane  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:49:52pm

re: #69 Targetpractice

That reminds me, the other thing that should get the wingnut hive in a stir would be Puerto Rico voting today to become a state.

If that vote passes, I will be watching the wingnut meltdowns.

80 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:50:11pm

Illinois woman votes while in labor

Nothing was going to stop first-time voter Galicia Malone from casting her ballot in Tuesday’s US elections — not even the imminent birth of her first child.

The 21-year-old from Dolton, Illinois, a suburb of President Barack Obama’s adopted hometown Chicago, had been in labor since the middle of the night, with contractions five minutes apart.

But she insisted en route to hospital on stopping at her local polling station — the aptly named New Life Celebration Church — to cast her ballot, Cook County clerk David Orr said in a news release..

81 erik_t  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:50:23pm

re: #76 recusancy

Any polling been done on it? I assume even if they voted to become a state our Republicans would block it in Washington. Although I guess I'm not sure how states get added.

I believe both party platforms nominally support Puerto Rican statehood if the Puerto Ricans do.

(EDIT: yep)

82 JamesWI  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:50:34pm

re: #76 recusancy

Any polling been done on it? I assume even if they voted to become a state our Republicans would block it in Washington. Although I guess I'm not sure how states get added.

I think I saw something the other day where it looked like it will pass.

83 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:51:04pm

re: #79 Lidanghazi

If that vote passes, I will be watching the wingnut meltdowns.

"WE'VE ALWAYS HAD 50 STATES FOR ALL OF HISTORY! I AINT CHANGING MY FLAG!"

84 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:52:36pm

New Mexico is the State of the Future. At least in one respect;

OK, maybe two.

85 recusancy  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:52:56pm

re: #82 JamesWI

I think I saw something the other day where it looked like it will pass.

Really? Cause it's never been above 5% for statehood in past elections.

86 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:53:26pm
87 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:53:49pm

Gus! Get out of those archives! They could fall on you!

88 Lidane  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:54:05pm
89 recusancy  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:54:16pm

re: #85 recusancy

Really? Cause it's never been above 5% for statehood in past elections.

Oh my bad... read it wrong.. never been above 5% for total independence.

90 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:54:22pm

re: #84 wrenchghaziwenchghazi

New Mexico is the State of the Future. At least in one respect;

[Embedded content]

Oh no whites aren't the majority anymore. Will the Hispanics enslave us? //

91 danarchy  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:54:31pm

re: #78 HappyBenghazi

So if Puerto Rico votes yes on that. They'll become a state? This is the longest gap in history we've had in between statehood for states by the way.

I think congress would have to approve it in a straight majority vote? Could be wrong, all that highschool stuff retreats farther in the rearview every year if I have no reason to refresh it.

92 JamesWI  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:54:50pm

re: #85 recusancy

Really? Cause it's never been above 5% for statehood in past elections.

Googling it now, I'm seeing a "slim majority" wanting to keep their current status. Not sure if that was what I saw the other day and remembered it wrong, or if I saw something else.

93 Amory Blaine  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:55:17pm

re: #77 Ben G. Hazi

Is it wrong for me to want Goldberg to dip his balls in honey and wander naked through an apiary?

///

Colbert Nation may be interested in this...

94 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:55:25pm

re: #86 Kragarghazi

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Prediction: Dick Morris won't be near a camera again for a week after today.

95 Amory Blaine  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:56:01pm

re: #94 Targetpractice

Yep. And he will be armed to the teeth with talking points.

96 Gus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:56:28pm

re: #87 wrenchghaziwenchghazi

Gus! Get out of those archives! They could fall on you!

Ah, you saw that? :D Yeah, pretty weird shit in there.

97 Lidane  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:56:49pm

re: #94 Targetpractice

Prediction: Dick Morris won't be near a camera again for a week after today.

We should all be so lucky.

98 Gus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:57:04pm

Might go back several years and downding myself. :D

99 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:57:08pm

re: #95 Amory Blaine

Yep. And he will be armed to the teeth with talking points.

"Sandy caused Romney momentum to fade! Obama stole votes in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania! Ohio was totally a con job! There's no way Obama could have legally won! Keep paying attention to me, because I used to work for Clinton!!!"

100 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:57:14pm

re: #83 Kragarghazi

"WE'VE ALWAYS HAD 50 STATES FOR ALL OF HISTORY! I AINT CHANGING MY FLAG!"

Most of them Portuh-riccans don't speak English neither, least not worth a damn. If they learned any, it was book learnin' from union teachers. And you know what that means! Yep, they only know gay union book English, not the real stuff like me and my friends. If English was good enough for Jesus and the Apostles, it's good enough for me!

101 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:57:34pm

re: #40 Kragarghazi

The joys of working with morons:

"ALL YOUR FILES ARE CORRUPTED! YOU NEED TO REDO THEM ALL! YOU MESSED UP!!!"

"I'm in the process of copying the files now, I haven't even sent out the email notification saying they were ready. You were trying to open files which hadn't completely copied over to the group share. Why were you trying to access them before then?"

"Oh... never mind.

Welcome to the world of Stupid User Tricks.
:p

102 JamesWI  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:57:47pm

re: #92 JamesWI

Googling it now, I'm seeing a "slim majority" wanting to keep their current status. Not sure if that was what I saw the other day and remembered it wrong, or if I saw something else.

This one here says poll showing 47.9% support of statehood

103 Amory Blaine  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:57:47pm

No cameras. Maybe pinky toes.

104 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:57:51pm

re: #90 HappyBenghazi

Oh no whites aren't the majority anymore. Will the Hispanics enslave us? //

I think one reason it's gone up so sharply is that it's more clear now on the census forms that you can be Hispanic and white or Hispanic and black or any other combination.

105 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:58:10pm

Gingrich: Obama Wants to Put 'the Government Which is Currently Failing in Hurricane Sandy' in Charge of Your Health Care

Newt Gingrich appeared on Steve Deace's radio program last evening to explain why Mitt Romney is going to win the election, which makes sense given Gingrich's steller* record of making accurate election predictions.

During the discussion, Gingrich said that another Obama administration would be a "nightmare" because an "arrogant" and "divisive" Obama wants to make sure that "the government which is currently failing in Hurricane Sandy" will be delivering your healthcare:

*stellar

106 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:58:48pm

re: #96 Gus

Ah, you saw that? :D Yeah, pretty weird shit in there.

CL followed you in there. I almost did too, but I figured, why start? Looks like an all-day job.

107 Gus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:58:49pm

Nasty people.

[Link: twitter.com...]

108 dragonfire1981  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:58:56pm

re: #105 Kragarghazi

Gingrich: Obama Wants to Put 'the Government Which is Currently Failing in Hurricane Sandy' in Charge of Your Health Care

*stellar

Just to be clear we ARE talking about the same government that brutally botched the Katrina response...right?

109 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:59:04pm

re: #98 Gus

Might go back several years and downding myself. :D

That too....

110 Batman  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:59:13pm

Just watched the video and I have to ask if Nate Silver's hands have minds of their own.

111 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:59:19pm

re: #105 Kragarghazi

Gingrich: Obama Wants to Put 'the Government Which is Currently Failing in Hurricane Sandy' in Charge of Your Health Care

*stellar

I wonder when Christie gets tired of his fellow Republicans saying the government failed on Sandy and tells them to fuck off. He's already pissed at the Romeny staffers who are giving him a hard time for praising POTUS.

112 Gus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:59:21pm

Take two.

Nasty people...

113 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:59:23pm

In honor of Puerto Rico...

MST3K - Progress Island U.S.A.

114 erik_t  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:59:42pm

re: #105 Kragarghazi

Gingrich: Obama Wants to Put 'the Government Which is Currently Failing in Hurricane Sandy' in Charge of Your Health Care

And I'll tell you what, Gingrich knows a currently-failing government when he sees it.

115 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:59:46pm

OT: Benghazi Truthers just bug the crap outta me.

116 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:59:53pm

Reports of high turnout do give cause for hope at this early stage...

117 JamesWI  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:00:44pm

re: #112 Gus

Take two.

Nasty people...

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Ace of Spades is.......SOROS!!!!!! These people are beyond satire at this point.

118 Gus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:01:33pm

Most-wanted Iraqi playing cards

In the 2003 invasion of Iraq by a United States-led coalition, the U.S. military developed a set of playing cards to help troops identify the most-wanted members of President Saddam Hussein's government, mostly high-ranking Baath Party members or members of the Revolutionary Command Council. The cards were officially named the "personality identification playing cards".

It's an open invitation to violence.

119 Gus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:02:52pm

re: #117 JamesWI

Ace of Spades is.......SOROS!!!!!! These people are beyond satire at this point.

These are the assholes putting it out...

[Link: americanfreedom.com...]

Notice "Free Beacon" is involved. Remember that next time you see someone here post there news as legitimate news. They're scum.

120 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:03:03pm

re: #118 Gus

Most-wanted Iraqi playing cards

It's an open invitation to violence.

That's a feature. People like this hate anyone to the left of them that much that they want violence committed on them. You just know if Romney wins, that there will be some right wing nuts begging him to arrest the Obamas for "treason"

121 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:03:27pm

re: #119 Gus

These are the assholes putting it out...

[Link: americanfreedom.com...]

Notice "Free Beacon" is involved. Remember that next time you see someone here post there news as legitimate news. They're scum.

You should page all that if and when you get a chance, i really think it deserves attention.

122 Bulworth  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:03:58pm

re: #74 recusancy

Are they voting on that today?

So if PR becomes a U.S. State will we also have to admit a slave state for balance?

123 Gus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:04:06pm

re: #121 BARACK THE VOTE

You should page all that if and when you get a chance, i really think it deserves attention.

We'll see. I'm still a little groggy.

124 Amory Blaine  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:04:17pm

Watched Nightline Big Sky, Big Money last night. very interesting if you can get the chance to watch.

125 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:06:36pm
126 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:07:19pm

re: #125 wrenchghaziwenchghazi

[Embedded content]

Wouldn't it be great if this is the year he's finally beaten?

127 JamesWI  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:08:28pm

Rupert Murdoch is subtle

Image: NY_NYP.jpg

128 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:09:07pm

re: #127 JamesWI

Rupert Murdoch is subtle

Image: NY_NYP.jpg

Invisible Obama takes a good picture.

129 Four More Tears  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:09:20pm
130 darthstar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:09:29pm
131 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:09:43pm

re: #122 Bulworth

So if PR becomes a U.S. State will we also have to admit a slave state for balance?

Nope. The Missouri Compromise got set aside by the Compromise of 1854 IIRC.

132 Four More Tears  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:10:32pm

re: #131 Felineghazi, Caliph of the Conservative Jihad

Nope. The Missouri Compromise got set aside by the Compromise of 1854 IIRC.

DF?

/

133 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:11:22pm

Wilmot Proviso!

134 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:12:06pm

re: #126 HappyBenghazi

Wouldn't it be great if this is the year he's finally beaten?

Yes. I'm not holding my breath for that one, but there's a chance.

135 darthstar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:12:21pm
136 Lidane  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:13:45pm

re: #135 darthstar

Can't tell if serious or satire.

137 dragonfire1981  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:13:49pm

Any KT or Dark Falcon sightings yet today?

I can't say I've noticed them if they've been here.

138 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:14:07pm

Giuliani: Benghazi ‘Most Important’ Election Issue

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani said Tuesday that the attacks on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi and the Obama administration's response to those attacks are "the most important issue in the election," during an appearance on CNN.

Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi!

139 darthstar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:14:17pm

re: #136 Lidanghazi

Can't tell if serious or satire.

Neither can I. Funny, huh?

140 Four More Tears  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:14:46pm

re: #137 dragonfire1981

Any KT or Dark Falcon sightings yet today?

I can't say I've noticed them if they've been here.

KT's been around. DF not so much.

141 Lidane  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:15:02pm

re: #137 dragonfire1981

Any KT or Dark Falcon sightings yet today?

I can't say I've noticed them if they've been here.

DF said he was taking a couple of days off from here until after the election, IIRC.

142 Lidane  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:15:09pm
143 Four More Tears  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:15:12pm

re: #138 Kragarghazi

Giuliani: Benghazi ‘Most Important’ Election Issue

Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi!

Totally what's on everyone's minds.

144 danarchy  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:15:26pm

re: #137 dragonfire1981

Any KT or Dark Falcon sightings yet today?

I can't say I've noticed them if they've been here.

A couple days ago DF signed off and said he was staying away until at least Wednesday.

145 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:16:50pm

re: #138 Kragarghazi

Giuliani: Benghazi ‘Most Important’ Election Issue

Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi!

Whatever Rudy.

146 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:17:17pm
147 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:17:27pm

re: #132 Ben Jhazi

DF?

/

Correction - Compromise of 1850. 1854 was the Kansas-Nebraska Act which instituted popular sovereignty as the approach and pretty much finished burying the Missouri Compromise. Enter border ruffians and the guerrilla war leading up to the 1860 election crisis and the actual attempt at secession.

148 Lidane  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:18:00pm

My co-worker just left for the day. She was starting to feel sick, so she cleared time off with her boss and left.

I am now alone in the office. Time to turn up my Spotify player and jam while I finish my work for the day.

149 efuseakay  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:18:11pm

re: #105 Kragarghazi

Gingrich: Obama Wants to Put 'the Government Which is Currently Failing in Hurricane Sandy' in Charge of Your Health Care

*stellar

So Newt... why aren't the states doing a better job in your eyes, since it should be totally left up to them?

150 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:18:55pm

LOL, Christian wingnuts on Twitter telling me that I can't be pro-Obama and pro-Israel.

151 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:19:00pm

re: #142 Lidanghazi

Pretty.

152 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:19:03pm

re: #149 efuseakay

So Newt... why aren't the states doing a better job in your eyes, since it should be totally left up to them?

That's what I always ask when someone uses states rights on stuff like this. It's a fucking cop out though is what it is and Newt knows that.

153 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:19:25pm

re: #133 AK-47%

Wilmot Proviso!

Given your avatar perhaps "Gadsden Purchase!" would be applicable as well.
;)

154 Stanghazi  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:19:28pm

I am dying being stuckere at work.

155 engineer cat  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:20:41pm

note to self:

there is no longer any point in checking polls. why are you doing it?

156 Usually refered to as anyways  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:21:01pm

Its now Wednesday 7th November 8:20am here on the east coast of Australia.
Anyone want to know who the winner is?

157 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:21:13pm

re: #137 dragonfire1981

Any KT or Dark Falcon sightings yet today?

I can't say I've noticed them if they've been here.

It's always easy to tell when DF or I are around, just check the bottom 10.

158 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:21:28pm

Hurrdurrr!
Image: jpod.jpg

159 sagehen  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:22:22pm

I have returned from voting.

I discovered that polling places were combined in a recent redistricting, and my place that I've been going forever absorbed what used to be 2 other places. So what I believed to be hugely increased turnout... is actually just that my spot has to serve more people now. Plus the storm-displaced people, they have a special procedure and their votes for state assembly and state senator don't count.

But it's been running at fully capacity all day, I waited about 20 minutes and the line was still that length when I was done. (I was #538, I took that as a good omen).

160 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:22:27pm

re: #156 ozbloke

Its now Wednesday 7th November 8:20am here on the east coast of Australia.
Anyone want to know who the winner is?

Lotto numbers first.

161 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:22:39pm

Busy today catching up on work. The components of my new alarm system should be arriving in a day or two. Installation is going to eat up a couple days of productivity.

162 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:23:11pm

re: #158 Varek Raith

Hurrdurrr!
Image: jpod.jpg

Apples to fucking oranges.Oh and maybe because it's November and it's cold. My precinct is small enough where you can wait inside but some of them are long enough that you have to wait outside.

163 Four More Tears  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:23:23pm
164 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:23:49pm

re: #156 ozbloke

Its now Wednesday 7th November 8:20am here on the east coast of Australia.
Anyone want to know who the winner is?

You for not being stuck in this mess?

165 Gus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:23:58pm

re: #163 Ben Jhazi

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Oh dear.

166 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:23:59pm

re: #149 efuseakay

So Newt... why aren't the states doing a better job in your eyes, since it should be totally left up to them?

I still recall Mitt#s stellar defense of his own Romneycare, namely that it was good because it was a bipartisan bill, whereas obama's bill was "forced down Congress' throat"...

In summation: Dems swallow, Republicans spit.

Who would you vote for?

167 Usually refered to as anyways  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:24:21pm

re: #160 Varek Raith

Lotto numbers first.

31 20 22 4 16 and bengazi!

168 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:24:32pm

re: #165 Gus

Oh dear.

MAGNETIC FIELDS!

169 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:25:05pm

I have Cavuto on now.
Pure derp.

170 darthstar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:25:07pm

re: #140 Ben Jhazi

KT's been around. DF not so much.

DF's on self-imposed sequester until Wednesday.

171 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:25:20pm

re: #161 Killgore Trout

Busy today catching up on work. The components of my new alarm system should be arriving in a day or two. Installation is going to eat up a couple days of productivity.

If you're installing crocs or tigers the installation might be eating other things soon as well...
;)

172 Gus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:25:36pm

re: #168 Varek Raith

MAGNETIC FIELDS!

I voted in a Methodist church. The second I walked through the doors I instantly turned pro-life and voted for Romney.

//

173 efuseakay  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:25:41pm

re: #156 ozbloke

Its now Wednesday 7th November 8:20am here on the east coast of Australia.
Anyone want to know who the winner is?

Don't spoil it for China!

174 Usually refered to as anyways  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:25:49pm

re: #164 Felineghazi, Caliph of the Conservative Jihad

You for not being stuck in this mess?

Your kidding me, I'm biting my nails up to my elbows.
Good luck America.

175 iossarian  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:26:39pm

re: #30 Obdicut

I love voter suppression logic. Women voting is bad because if they're married and they vote they either annul or double their husband's vote. It's a semantically true statement that is abso-fucking-lutely meaningless. You could use that logic to say that only one person should be allowed to vote, because any other person would just double or annul his vote.

I love the Isaac Asimov short story where one guy gets surveyed by a mega-computer which then extrapolates the (binding) presidential election result.

176 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:26:54pm

I am going to go take a nap before things get interesting. It could be a late night of return watching.

See you lizards later.

177 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:27:16pm

re: #172 Gus

I voted in a Methodist church. The second I walked through the doors I instantly turned pro-life and voted for Romney.

//

In Germany they vote on a Sunday. But not in churches. Often in schools, public buildings, community centers, or in the local pub.

178 darthstar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:27:21pm
179 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:28:09pm

Turmoil Follows As Pennsylvania Voter ID Law Meets Reality

The Election Protection coalition’s voter hotline here began lighting up with complaints soon after polls opened. Some voters said they were upset about being asked for photo identification. Others said they had been turned away because they did not provide it.

“We’ve definitely gotten reports about voters being turned away,” Eric Marshall, co-director of the Election Protection coalition, told TPM. “We’ve had reports of people who have shown up, been asked, and when they didn’t show ID they were turned away.”

Marshall said voting rights advocates were working to resolves the issues as quickly as possible. Assistant Philadelphia District Attorney Peter Berson also told the Philadelphia Inquirer that his office had received complaints about poll workers who misunderstood the ruling.

Voting rights advocates had expressed worry about confusion on Election Day as soon as Pennsylvania Judge Robert Simpson issued his ruling in early October. Some advocates blamed state authorities for failing to properly train poll workers.

180 Lidane  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:28:18pm
181 darthstar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:28:37pm

re: #171 Felineghazi, Caliph of the Conservative Jihad

If you're installing crocs or tigers the installation might be eating other things soon as well...
;)

How will these protect him?

182 Lidane  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:28:47pm
183 Gus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:29:14pm

re: #177 AK-47%

In Germany they vote on a Sunday. But not in churches. Often in schools, public buildings, community centers, or in the local pub.

I think the one day voting date is stupid. It's even dumber that it's held on a weekday when most people are working and it involves long waits. Voting should last at least 3 days IMO with the addition of early voting and mail in voting. A week would be better.

184 Four More Tears  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:29:27pm

re: #179 Kragarghazi

Turmoil Follows As Pennsylvania Voter ID Law Meets Reality

Or as PA leadership sees it, everything is going according to plan.

185 philosophus invidius  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:30:14pm

Obama campaign just sent a link to this Will Ferrell video:

"Vote Obama: It's a slam dunk!"

186 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:30:16pm

re: #184 Ben Jhazi

Or as PA leadership sees it, everything is going according to plan.

Yep, Obama winning.
...
DAMMIT!

187 Four More Tears  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:30:38pm

re: #177 AK-47%

In Germany they vote on a Sunday. But not in churches. Often in schools, public buildings, community centers, or in the local pub.

Who handles it, though, the federal government or locals?

188 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:31:00pm

re: #182 Lidanghazi

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" not allowing sellers to charge whatever they want amounts to "socialism" and only serves as a disincentive to the production of more gasoline"

Dumbass

189 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:31:24pm

re: #182 Lidanghazi

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Maybe Armchair General Fischer should actually try to run something rather than his yap for once in his life.

190 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:31:52pm

re: #183 Gus

I think the one day voting date is stupid. It's even dumber that it's held on a weekday when most people are working and it involves long waits. Voting should last at least 3 days IMO with the addition of early voting and mail in voting. A week would be better.

I agree. Only problem with Germany is that they are always having some sort of state, regional or local somewhere in addition to the national election every five years...I do appreciate America for holding one election every two years for pretty much everything.

191 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:32:09pm

re: #188 Kragarghazi

" not allowing sellers to charge whatever they want amounts to "socialism" and only serves as a disincentive to the production of more gasoline"

Dumbass

Economics; How does it fucking work?

192 darthstar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:32:12pm
193 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:32:38pm

FUCK YOU PAM

194 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:32:54pm

re: #192 darthstar

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That be bad for Romney.

195 erik_t  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:33:47pm

re: #193 Alouenghazi

FUCK YOU PAM

[Embedded content]

Open mouth, insert soap. Gawd, Pam.

196 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:34:02pm

re: #187 Ben Jhazi

Who handles it, though, the federal government or locals?

Locals. Of course, here everybody has a national ID card issued to them, and everyone has to register a place of permanent residence. You show up, flash your ID and your name is checked off the list, you vote.

And zere iss no AKORN to meddle wiss things!!!

197 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:34:06pm

re: #194 Varek Raith

That be bad for Romney.

and Macaca Allen.

198 erik_t  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:34:24pm

re: #194 Varek Raith

That be bad for Romney.

But that be good news for John McCain.

199 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:34:47pm

re: #197 HappyBenghazi

and Macaca Allen.

Allen was screwed to begin with, hating on NoVa like he did.
Derp.

200 dragonfire1981  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:34:51pm

re: #182 Lidanghazi

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Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

Mr. Fischer might be in for a rude surprise someday methinks.

201 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:35:08pm

Babushka is a Jewier Jew than Pam!

202 Bulworth  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:35:17pm

re: #193 Alouenghazi

FUCK YOU PAM

[Embedded content]

so Israel is throwing itself under the bus according to pam?

203 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:35:37pm

re: #199 Varek Raith

Allen was screwed to begin with, hating on NoVa like he did.
Derp.

Yep. Fucking moron.

204 dragonfire1981  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:36:23pm

It will be interesting too see how badly Akin loses in MO.

205 philosophus invidius  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:36:36pm

re: #188 Kragarghazi

" not allowing sellers to charge whatever they want amounts to "socialism" and only serves as a disincentive to the production of more gasoline"

Words that could have come from Jesus himself.

206 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:36:52pm

re: #202 Bulworth

so Israel is throwing itself under the bus according to pam?

Pam's basically saying only she can decide who's good for Israel. I don't want to know what that psycho is going to say about Elie Wiesel when she finds out he's writing a book with Obama. Totally expected the usual insults and maybe that will be the thing that does her in since Mr. Wiesel is pretty well respected.

207 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:36:52pm

What about Ryan's seat?
How's that seat projected to go?

208 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:37:49pm

Would be great if Frank Wolf could get something of a scare this time. I am not naive enough to think he will lose but the guy needs a scare at the polls.

209 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:38:22pm

re: #188 Kragarghazi

" not allowing sellers to charge whatever they want amounts to "socialism" and only serves as a disincentive to the production of more gasoline"

Dumbass

Using the US Navy to guard access to sources of oil amounts to socialms and serves as a disincentive to developing alternative fuels and increasing efficiency.

Now go burn some Korans for heat, Bryan...

210 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:38:39pm

re: #208 HappyBenghazi

Would be great if Frank Wolf could get something of a scare this time. I am not naive enough to think he will lose but the guy needs a scare at the polls.

Yeah, I voted against him this time around.

211 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:39:35pm

Just got back home from (a) voting (b) holding signs at two polling places and (c) doing some house-to-house canvassing for Obama and Eliz. Warren. I have really liked all the Dem. volunteers I've met while working this election.

Fingers crossed. It certainly doesn't hurt that 538 now has Obama at above 90%.

212 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:39:56pm

re: #210 Varek Raith

Yeah, I voted against him this time around.

I did too after voting for him in 2006 and 2008. I still don't think he's a terrible guy but his party sucks and he hasn't been working hard enough to improve it.

213 bratwurst  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:40:04pm
214 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:40:12pm
215 freetoken  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:40:17pm

re: #177 AK-47%

In Germany they vote on a Sunday. But not in churches. Often in schools, public buildings, community centers, or in the local pub.

Well, now I'm off to my local religious institution's hallowed hall to cast my secular vote under a gleaning white cross... this is America.

Anyway, I pretty much gave up trying to research all the individuals running for local boards. The problem here in San Diego is that quite a few theocrats try to plant themselves on local hospital or school district boards, to be used as a springboard for their other agendas.

Plus, many of the local politicians like to be chummy with various "Patriot" groups, so weeding those out is tough too.

216 freetoken  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:40:56pm

re: #215 freetoken

pimf "gleaming white cross", though "gleaning" kind of fits too.

217 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:41:02pm

re: #213 bratwurst

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Lol.
So much for the RW turnout predictions...

218 efuseakay  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:42:19pm

re: #195 erik_t

Open mouth, insert soap. Gawd, Pam.

Insert vanilla scented Romney head soap. (as previously linked to by someone)

[Link: www.etsy.com...]

219 Petero1818  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:43:14pm

re: #31 BARACK THE VOTE

I am concerned that souls may be voting without being properly registered. I suggest new legislation requiring the registration of all souls and an inquiry into just who at Acorn registered the souls of Albert Einstein, John Candy and Malcolm X to vote in Pennsylvania. I mean John Candy's soul is Canadian for christs sake.

220 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:43:30pm

re: #213 bratwurst

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Excellent news for John McCain. Seriously, that's awesome. If Obama wins Virginia and we know it early which is something I think Axelrod was saying, we'll know tonight's outcome early. I'm not surprised. The parts of Virginia that have been growing fast are areas that favor Obama.

221 gwangung  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:43:33pm

re: #213 bratwurst

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Duh.

The only way it'd be more like 2004 than 2008 is if someone was deliberately depressing the non-white vote.

222 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:44:29pm

In the races I have absolutely no personal stake in, I'm hoping Duckworth annihilates Joe Walsh tonight

223 Four More Tears  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:44:41pm

re: #220 HappyBenghazi

Excellent news for John McCain. Seriously, that's awesome. If Obama wins Virginia and we know it early which is something I think Axelrod was saying, we'll know tonight's outcome early. I'm not surprised. The parts of Virginia that have been growing fast are areas that favor Obama.

Excellent news for Tim Kaine, too.

224 freetoken  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:45:09pm

Republicans are complaining about being suppressed.

Really:

PA Republicans feel suppressed by elementary school’s Obama mural

A painting of President Barack Obama that elementary students voted in 2009 to put on their school’s wall is now actively suppressing Mitt Romney voters, according to a statement from the Pennsylvania Republican Party.

Numerous complaints from Republicans voting in Philadelphia’s 35th Ward began coming in this morning, giving the Pennsylvania State Republican Committee cause to request a judge intervene. The Democratic City Committee of Philadelphia agreed with their complaint, noting that any campaign images inside a polling place are considered electioneering, which is illegal.

Acknowledging the two parties’ agreement, a judge in Philadelphia ordered poll workers to cover the mural with paper so that its content is not visible, and they did.


“The Obama campaign is 0-for-2 today in trying to get away with their disgusting attempts to suppress Republican voices in Philadelphia,” state GOP chairman Rob Gleason told CBS Philly.

[...]

225 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:45:11pm

re: #211 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Just got back home from (a) voting (b) holding signs at two polling places and (c) doing some house-to-house canvassing for Obama and Eliz. Warren. I have really liked all the Dem. volunteers I've met while working this election.

Fingers crossed. It certainly doesn't hurt that 538 now has Obama at above 90%.

Thank you for fighting the good fight.

226 Gus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:45:15pm

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227 efuseakay  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:45:27pm

re: #222 Kragarghazi

In the races I have absolutely no personal stake in, I'm hoping Duckworth annihilates Joe Walsh tonight

You and me both. He's not in my district, but he's right next door. Way too close to home.

228 Petero1818  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:45:31pm

re: #193 Alouenghazi

FUCK YOU PAM

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That is perhaps the kindest way you could have said that. It is far more charitable than the thoughts I have and that I am keeping to myself to prevent myself from being banned, or worse (quoted by wingnuts to prove radicalism at LGF).

229 nemus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:45:37pm

Anyone have any insight on the chances that Michelle Bachmann loses her seat? That's my 'race I have no geographic stake in' interest point .

230 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:45:44pm

re: #223 Ben Jhazi

Excellent news for Tim Kaine, too.

Yep. Means we get to see bye to George forever. No way in hell is he running again after two losses in a row. This just isn't "real Virginia" anymore.

231 freetoken  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:46:45pm

re: #226 Gus

Was it supposed to be serious?

232 Gus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:47:20pm

re: #231 freetoken

Was it supposed to be serious?

I don't know. Let me check my irony meter.

233 Obdicut  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:47:20pm

re: #226 Gus

It's satire.

Mitt Romney is by no means a perfect candidate. He may have no coherent or consistent principles beyond a steadfast belief in his own superhuman competence. He may have surrounded himself with charlatans and liars in his pursuit of power for the sake of flattering his staggering self-importance. His vice-presidential nominee may be a bizarre combination of overgrown adolescent Randian and pious ultra-Catholic misogynist. He may have a sociopathic indifference to the concept of honesty.

But there is still a chance that he will magically decide to do all the things that I like and want him to do once he is office.

234 Bulworth  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:47:35pm

re: #224 freetoken

Republicans are complaining about being suppressed.

Really:

PA Republicans feel suppressed by elementary school’s Obama mural

i bet the chicago thugs made those kids do that mural and hang it in their communist soshulist school. /

235 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:47:42pm

re: #225 Almost Killed by Space Hookers

Thank you for fighting the good fight.

We (my wife & I) do our best.

236 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:47:57pm

re: #224 freetoken

Republicans are complaining about being suppressed.

Really:

PA Republicans feel suppressed by elementary school’s Obama mural

Suppress? Motherfuckers pull the shit they try to and they're complaining a mural is oppression. Must be nice to be a Republican when you're always the victim and everyone else is persecuting you.

237 Kronocide  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:48:07pm

Today I petted a puppy and voted for 1000 years of darkness. Teeheehee!

238 Petero1818  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:48:16pm

re: #224 freetoken

Republicans are complaining about being suppressed.

Really:

PA Republicans feel suppressed by elementary school’s Obama mural

I am not sure how a painting surpresses votes. But I did see that image and it most certainly was inappropriate for a polling station. It was idiotic that whomever was in charge of the polling station allowed it to be visible. If your fucking job is to establish a polling station surely you can know and follow the rules of operating one.

239 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:48:59pm

re: #226 Gus

It is true that the modern Republican Party is extremist, irresponsible, reckless and wholly unfit to govern. They campaign with grotesque white populism, stoke bigotry and xenophobia, and shamelessly work to suppress legal votes by poor and minority citizens. In Congress their unprecedented obstruction sabotaged the economic recovery and ground even routine federal business to a standstill.

This, again, is why we must elect Mitt Romney, the Republican nominee for president.

You see, only with a Republican in the White House is the Republican Party willing to occasionally sometimes act somewhat responsibly. With various worldwide economic and military crises likely to require urgent attention in the coming years, we need our Republicans to be only a little bit reckless and stupid, and not apocalyptically so.

So because the GOP is a bunch of whiny bitches, we need to just go ahead and let them get their way.

240 Gus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:49:20pm

re: #233 Obdicut

It's satire.

Well yeah. How the fuck... that's unprofessional. Tired of this fucking comedian bullshit.

241 Four More Tears  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:49:50pm

Jesus...

242 freetoken  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:51:09pm

re: #238 Petero1818

Even if it is technically electioneering, and everyone agreed it ought to be covered up, it is hardly "suppressing" anyone.

Heck, I'm about to go to a religious institution to cast my ballot - which has been the case for several years now, it seems - and while I think it is a bit crazy I don't feel "suppressed" by all the religious symbols. Perhaps some others might feel intimidated and I wish purely secular locations would be used for polling stations, but it still doesn't count as "suppression".

243 Petero1818  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:51:27pm

re: #241 Ben Jhazi

Unfortunately to do so they need to divert electricity from the other parts of the grid, so those of you without power will have to live without it for another night.

244 Gus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:52:00pm

Ha ha ha! That was really funny! Whatever.

245 Obdicut  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:52:19pm

re: #240 Gus

I thought it was good satire, but the thing is, those stupid positions are self-satirizing anyway. It's pretty obvious to point out that people who delude themselves with bullshit like "Romney will bring the GOP back to the middle" are living in a fools paradise. But this one was pretty well done and it's good of him to call out the others who are doing it.

I'll agree that the satirical form doesn't give it much oomph and a straight piece could have done it better.

246 freetoken  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:53:33pm

Probably an indicator of the election outcome:

News Summary: US home prices rise most in 6 years

ANNUAL PRICES RISE: U.S. home prices jumped 5 percent in September compared with a year ago, the largest year-over-year increase since July 2006, according to data provider CoreLogic.

MONTHLY PRICES DIP: Prices declined 0.3 percent in September from August, the first drop after six straight increases. The monthly figures are not seasonally adjusted. CoreLogic says the decline reflects the end of the summer home-buying season and not a softening in the recovery.

SUSTAINED RECOVERY: The data suggest the recovery is sustainable. Rising prices encourage more homeowners to sell their homes and entice would-be buyers to purchase homes before prices rise further.

247 Petero1818  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:53:52pm

re: #242 freetoken

Even if it is technically electioneering, and everyone agreed it ought to be covered up, it is hardly "suppressing" anyone.

Heck, I'm about to go to a religious institution to cast my ballot - which has been the case for several years now, it seems - and while I think it is a bit crazy I don't feel "suppressed" by all the religious symbols. Perhaps some others might feel intimidated and I wish purely secular locations would be used for polling stations, but it still doesn't count as "suppression".

I agree. In fact there have also been a couple of instances today of signs at polling stations within churches that are clearly meant to sway voters to vote to preserve so called sanctity of marriage and life of the unborn.

248 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:54:05pm

Hagee: Gay Equality and Abortion Rights are 'Demonic Forces that are Attacking our Nation'

If anyone fits the bill for demonic forces, it would be the Evangelicals.

249 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:54:13pm

re: #240 Gus

Well yeah. How the fuck... that's unprofessional. Tired of this fucking comedian bullshit.

Pace yourself. Could be a long night.

250 Gus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:54:25pm

re: #245 Obdicut

I thought it was good satire, but the thing is, those stupid positions are self-satirizing anyway. It's pretty obvious to point out that people who delude themselves with bullshit like "Romney will bring the GOP back to the middle" are living in a fools paradise. But this one was pretty well done and it's good of him to call out the others who are doing it.

I'll agree that the satirical form doesn't give it much oomph and a straight piece could have done it better.

I have no idea what's going on sometimes with these emoprog types. Neither am I some cult follower of this guy. Sorry but this kind of BS pisses me off.

251 Bulworth  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:54:30pm

re: #237 Ghazicide

Today I petted a puppy and voted for 1000 years of darkness. Teeheehee!

almost forgot all about the 1000 years of darkness. will we never see the sun again?///

252 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:55:06pm

re: #246 freetoken

Probably an indicator of the election outcome:

News Summary: US home prices rise most in 6 years

But Rush said just this morning that home prices were down...

253 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:55:47pm

re: #248 Kragarghazi

Hagee: Gay Equality and Abortion Rights are 'Demonic Forces that are Attacking our Nation'

If anyone fits the bill for demonic forces, it would be the Evangelicals.

Funny I thought it was ass hats like Hagee who justify the Holocaust as God's will not two people who love each other who want to marry.

254 Bulworth  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:56:42pm

re: #248 Kragarghazi

Hagee: Gay Equality and Abortion Rights are 'Demonic Forces that are Attacking our Nation'

If anyone fits the bill for demonic forces, it would be the Evangelicals.

and Benghazi is a demonic force attacking our nation.//

255 Gus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:57:02pm

re: #249 wrenchghaziwenchghazi

Pace yourself. Could be a long night.

256 freetoken  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:57:22pm

Well, well...

Ventura County Clerk and Recorder Mark Lunn, who was visiting a handful of the county's 367 polling sites this morning and plans to visit more this afternoon, said although some voting machines had jammed, things were "going well overall."

Lunn also noticed the robust numbers of voters at the sites. He said that today's turnout may come close to the county's record in 2008 when 80.6 percent of registered voters came out for that year's presidential elections.

"A month ago I felt that it would be a while before we would see that (turnout) again," Lunn said. "I don't know whether we'll get to 80 percent, but we'll get a lot closer to 80 percent than I would've guessed a month ago."

257 JamesWI  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:58:00pm

Funky music for distraction purposes (the album this song is from is great, btw)

258 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:58:42pm

Really seems like turnout may mirror 2008. If that's the case. It's possible Obama could be on his way to another big win.

259 Bulworth  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:59:28pm

re: #256 freetoken

Well, well...

too many people voting. dead people voting. ACORN. Where are the vote suppressors when we need them? ///

260 iossarian  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:59:52pm

re: #252 Kragarghazi

But Rush said just this morning that home prices were down...

Me or your lyin' eyes?

Straight choice.

261 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:59:55pm

re: #255 Gus

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Did you notice that punctuation abuse has been enabled? Too bad TFK isn't here to enjoy it.

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262 freetoken  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:00:07pm

re: #258 HappyBenghazi

Here in California the hot action is in the Propositions, several of which would significantly raise taxes, and that is motivating some to turn out here, I think.

263 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:00:23pm

re: #258 HappyBenghazi

Really seems like turnout may mirror 2008. If that's the case. It's possible Obama could be on his way to another big win.

He needs a solid percentage point in the popular vote to cement his win save for those who still do not want to accept him for who and what he is...

264 celticdragon  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:01:11pm

Voted around noon and just ogt back from canvassing with my 12 year old son here in Greensboro, NC.

Some very irate Romney guy in a work pick up truck stopped in the middle of the road to scream obscenities at us.

My son looked confused and wondered why he was so upset. I said “Because he knows he is losing”.

265 iossarian  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:01:50pm

re: #261 wrenchghaziwenchghazi

That's "KTHXBAI"!!!!111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GEEZ. GET IT RIGHT, MAAAAN!!!

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Did you notice that punctuation abuse has been enabled? Too bad TFK isn't here to enjoy it.

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TFK!

I miss that guy!

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266 Petero1818  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:02:29pm

re: #264 celticdragon

Voted around noon and just ogt back from canvassing with my 12 year old son here in Greensboro, NC.

Some very irate Romney guy in a work pick up truck stopped in the middle of the road to scream obscenities at us.

My son looked confused and wondered why he was so upset. I said “Because he knows he is losing”.

They must have voted for Romney on family values.

267 andres  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:02:53pm

re: #69 Targetpractice

That reminds me, the other thing that should get the wingnut hive in a stir would be Puerto Rico voting today to become a state.

OTOH, I would love to see that referendum go Yes/Statehood. That would make the local right heads go boom.

268 darthstar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:03:22pm

Hardball just starting, and the first shot of Chuck Todd he looked like someone drank his milkshake.

269 DisturbedEma  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:04:37pm

Taking my 18 year olf son to vote now- I am one proud Momma:)

270 JamesWI  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:05:18pm

re: #268 darthstar

Hardball just starting, and the first shot of Chuck Todd he looked like someone drank his milkshake.

Oh man, what will Todd do when he can no longer look at polls showing an Obama lead and say they're tied? He's gonna have the sads tonight

271 Bulworth  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:05:26pm

re: #268 darthstar

Hardball just starting, and the first shot of Chuck Todd he looked like someone drank his milkshake.

The New Black Panther Party? /

272 freetoken  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:05:54pm

re: #267 andres

Romney and some Republicans are actually for that. Truth is, and the racists don't like this, that the country club Republicans know that adding PR as a state would not be deleterious to the US and likely would be a slight economic uptick. Many politicians in PR are Republicans, something which the hard core racists acknowledge in their dismissal of both major US political parties.

273 Four More Beers  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:06:07pm

Hey, "Little" Dick Morris! Nate Silver is showing up at your house tonight, and he's going to slap you in the face while constantly yelling "MATH!" "MATH!" "MATH!"

274 Bulworth  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:07:20pm

these ads so funny: the one with Billy Graham and him being optimistic or something for Amercia because of Jesus. Didn't know Jesus was an American citizen.

275 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:07:51pm

re: #264 celticdragon

Voted around noon and just ogt back from canvassing with my 12 year old son here in Greensboro, NC.

Some very irate Romney guy in a work pick up truck stopped in the middle of the road to scream obscenities at us.

My son looked confused and wondered why he was so upset. I said “Because he knows he is losing”.

My wife and I were holding signs at different polling places today. She says one of the well-known local wingnuts (we have them, even in the People's Republic of Massachusetts) came up to her group and started shouting at them about how the people they were supporting were all liars, and how could they do that? Pretty rich coming from someone who supports Romney. My wife declined to engage with the guy. It's probably a good thing I wasn't there, because I'm not at all sure I'd have been that forbearing.

276 Four More Beers  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:08:01pm

re: #274 Bulworth

these ads so funny: the one with Billy Graham and him being optimistic or something for Amercia because of Jesus. Didn't know Jesus was an American citizen.

Naturalized, yes.

277 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:08:01pm

re: #274 Bulworth

these ads so funny: the one with Billy Graham and him being optimistic or something for Amercia because of Jesus. Didn't know Jesus was an American citizen.

I really don't like or respect Billy Graham at all after what I heard on the Nixon tapes.

278 darthstar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:08:09pm

re: #270 JamesWI

Oh man, what will Todd do when he can no longer look at polls showing an Obama lead and say they're tied? He's gonna have the sads tonight

Chuck Todd sounds like Michael Steele - only without rhythm.

279 DisturbedEma  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:08:10pm

re: #274 Bulworth

Did you see his birth certificate or take it on faith? ;)

280 andres  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:08:33pm

re: #78 HappyBenghazi

So if Puerto Rico votes yes on that. They'll become a state? This is the longest gap in history we've had in between statehood for states by the way.

My best guess is that it will start a process for the Congress to recognize the bid for statehood. Realistically, it will die there.

281 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:08:56pm

re: #269 DisturbedEma

Taking my 18 year olf son to vote now- I am one proud Momma:)

I've got a 16-year old who I'm sure would vote the right way if she were old enough. Maybe she'll get a chance to vote for Hillary or Eliz. Warren the next time around.

282 Petero1818  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:10:20pm
From MPR News reporter Elizabeth Dunbar:

There were scattered reports from voters who saw signs or messages related to the marriage amendment at churches that were serving as polling places. That included Saint John Vianney in South St. Paul, where a banner that read “Strengthen Marriage, don’t redefine it” could be seen by voters entering the church.

“I was shocked, I didn’t think that would be allowed,” said Ivan Kowalenko, who tweeted a photo of the sign. “II was hearing that you’re not allowed to wear any political slogan of your own, so it doesn’t seem entirely appropriate that a voting venue would be allowed to express an opinion.”

Funny, Fox News did not cover that one.....

283 OhNoZombies!  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:10:33pm

re: #264 celticdragon

Voted around noon and just ogt back from canvassing with my 12 year old son here in Greensboro, NC.

Some very irate Romney guy in a work pick up truck stopped in the middle of the road to scream obscenities at us.

My son looked confused and wondered why he was so upset. I said “Because he knows he is losing”.

OMG. They're losing it!
Hubby is still out there, and some crazy Romney supporter just cussed at him.
Mind you, he's been out there since 7:30.
I think he's losing his sense of humor...

284 Bulworth  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:10:40pm

Voted early. Did some work-related reading at home. Worked out. Back home watching The World At War on bluray, and pounding the keys on LGF.

285 DisturbedEma  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:11:13pm

re: #281 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

He is a recent convert to Obama- he was never really into Romney but he remembers my conviction last election and thought I was voting the same way. He was surprised to learn I had actually paid attention to the changes over the past 4 years (thanks to you Lizards) and after doing some research on his own, became an Obama supporter

286 JamesWI  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:11:29pm

re: #280 andres

My best guess is that it will start a process for the Congress to recognize the bid for statehood. Realistically, it will die there.

Yeah, Congress has to vote. Both Obama and Romney have said they'd support it if it passes.....with a "clear majority." The polls look like it'll only win with a clear plurality, so I doubt it will happen.

287 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:11:48pm

You guys are lucky. All I got was a Republican precinct worker handing my grandmother a Republican sample ballot under the pretense of a Democratic one.

288 Four More Beers  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:12:09pm

I have had so much fun looking at my wingnut friend's Facebook walls today. One that I dated briefly had a prayer to God that Romney wins. I commented this: "Dear God, You have children with cancer to help as well as starving children in Africa that could really use a bowl of rice. Please ignore all requests from the full metal wingnut amongst us to intervene in our election today, you have much more important things to tend to, and I apologize for the inconvenience."

I was defriended in two minutes.

289 iossarian  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:12:54pm

re: #288 Summer Lovin' Torture Party

I was defriended in two minutes.

And... boom goes the dynamite.

290 Obdicut  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:12:54pm

What's really scary is how close this is despite:

Mitt fucking up so often on the campaign.

And his political philosophy being Gilded Age insanity.

291 Petero1818  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:13:00pm

re: #281 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

I've got a 16-year old who I'm sure would vote the right way if she were old enough. Maybe she'll get a chance to vote for Hillary or Eliz. Warren the next time around.

Where is Acorn when you need them....///

292 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:13:01pm

By the way, the Republicans seem to have absolutely no ground game here. The lawns are thick with Romney and Scott Brown signs (I think they outnumber the Democratic signs, though I haven't actually counted), but there was not a single Republican sign holder at either of the polling places I visited this morning, except for one guy holding a sign for one of the state legislature candidates. I was told later that that lone guy was the candidate himself.

293 Bulworth  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:13:07pm

re: #279 DisturbedEma

Did you see his birth certificate or take it on faith? ;)

waiting for the long form. /

294 JamesWI  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:13:21pm

Robert Gibbs looks like a man confident that his guy will win.

295 andres  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:13:23pm

re: #272 freetoken

Romney and some Republicans are actually for that. Truth is, and the racists don't like this, that the country club Republicans know that adding PR as a state would not be deleterious to the US and likely would be a slight economic uptick. Many politicians in PR are Republicans, something which the hard core racists acknowledge in their dismissal of both major US political parties.

The referendum is a two-part question:
1) Do the voters want to keep the current political status?
2) Disregarding the first question, which non-colonial status would you prefer?

A pro-Statehood win would be meaningless if the first question wins the Yes (keep current status).

296 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:13:29pm

re: #290 Obdicut

What's really scary is how close this is despite:

Mitt fucking up so often on the campaign.

And his political philosophy being Gilded Age insanity.

It is. It really is.

297 freetoken  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:13:54pm

re: #286 JamesWI

In the three times it's come up in the recent past, the move towards statehood has inched more popular. I do expect in time a solid majority down there to approve it.

298 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:14:02pm

LOL, this is going to be fun to watch later

#HappyRESTORATIONDay

299 philosophus invidius  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:14:35pm

re: #290 Obdicut

What's really scary is how close this is despite:

Mitt fucking up so often on the campaign.

And his political philosophy being Gilded Age insanity.

What's even scarier is how Romney is polling among white men.

300 iossarian  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:14:44pm

re: #290 Obdicut

What's really scary is how close this is despite:

Mitt fucking up so often on the campaign.

And his political philosophy being Gilded Age insanity.

Now, now, be fair. His political philosophy is also centrist welfare statism. And libertarianism. And New Deal progressivism. And...

301 Petero1818  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:14:57pm

re: #287 HappyBenghazi

You guys are lucky. All I got was a Republican precinct worker handing my grandmother a Republican sample ballot under the pretense of a Democratic one.

Call Fox News. Earlier today they ran a story about the opposite happening with an elderly voter at a polling station being "guided" to vote a straight democratic ticket. I am quite sure they will be happy to cover your story as well, after all they are all about "fair & balanced"/

302 Joanne  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:15:00pm

I haven't read this thread, but does anyone know when the numbers will start to come in? Do they wait for Hawaii polls to close before they start reporting??

303 Four More Beers  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:15:21pm

re: #298 Kragarghazi

LOL, this is going to be fun to watch later

#HappyRESTORATIONDay

Brian Konash ‏@bkonash
Conservatives like Michelle Malkin are tweeting #HappyRestorationDay, probably unaware this term refers to a democracy reverting to monarchy

304 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:15:23pm
305 Gus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:15:49pm

Polarized Election Season Marked by Extremist Candidates
Posted in Extremist Propaganda by Evelyn Schlatter on October 19, 2012

Oh look! Ted Cruz!

Ted Cruz (R-Texas)

Office sought: U.S. Senate

Ted Cruz Tea Party-backed Cruz is running as the GOP candidate for the Senate seat vacated by Kay Bailey Hutchinson. The Harvard-educated attorney, a former solicitor general of Texas and law clerk for Supreme Court Justice William Rehnquist, claims that the U.N.’s 1992 non-binding resolution and general guidelines for sustainability and ending poverty is a plot led by liberal billionaire George Soros to “abolish” unsustainable environments, including golf courses and grazing pastures. He co-authored a proposal that would open a way for states to nullify federal laws. Cruz thinks the imposition of Shariah Islamic law in the U.S. is “an enormous problem” (it’s not even possible under the Constitution, let alone a big problem). In his first campaign ad in the GOP primary, he encouraged people to vote for him because he once fought to ensure the execution of an undocumented immigrant in a murder case. He’s tough on LGBT people, too. At the 2011 Values Voter Summit, hosted by the gay-bashing Family Research Council, which the Southern Poverty Law Center lists as a hate group for its defamatory and false propaganda, Cruz railed against the “gay rights agenda” and warned about new threats to “religious liberty.”

306 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:15:50pm

re: #303 Summer Lovin' Torture Party

Brian Konash ‏@bkonash
Conservatives like Michelle Malkin are tweeting #HappyRestorationDay, probably unaware this term refers to a democracy reverting to monarchy

They're not that smart are they?

307 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:16:06pm

re: #302 Joanne

I haven't read this thread, but does anyone know when the numbers will start to come in? Do they wait for Hawaii polls to close before they start reporting??

Depends on the local poll closing time. Expect after 8pm Eastern to start getting reports in.

308 aagcobb  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:16:34pm

re: #302 Joanne

I haven't read this thread, but does anyone know when the numbers will start to come in? Do they wait for Hawaii polls to close before they start reporting??

No, they will start calling states after the polls in that state close. The earliest will be at 7:00 p.m. ET.

309 iossarian  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:16:36pm

re: #304 Kragarghazi

To be fair to him, there's not much point in spending time on the speech you give if you lose.

310 freetoken  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:17:00pm

re: #306 HappyBenghazi

Oak Apple Day ?

311 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:17:06pm

re: #306 HappyBenghazi

They're not that smart are they?

I'm still waiting for them to charge in like the Light Brigade.

312 aagcobb  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:17:37pm
313 Gus  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:17:39pm
314 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:17:46pm

re: #309 iossarian

To be fair to him, there's not much point in spending time on the speech you give if you lose.

"Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, you're cool, fuck you, I'm out."

315 Joanne  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:18:03pm

re: #308 aagcobb

No, they will start calling states after the polls in that state close. The earliest will be at 7:00 p.m. ET.

re: #307 Kragarghazi

Depends on the local poll closing time. Expect after 8pm Eastern to start getting reports in.

I thought they had a law or something that they couldn't report until the polls in CA closed...because it affected the vote if someone was losing big time, people don't bother voting.

316 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:18:07pm

re: #188 Kragarghazi

" not allowing sellers to charge whatever they want amounts to "socialism" and only serves as a disincentive to the production of more gasoline"

Dumbass

Then I'm sure he won't bitch when he is caught in some shit and I want to charge him $25.00 for a 20 oz. bottle of clean water.

317 Petero1818  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:18:23pm

re: #309 iossarian

To be fair to him, there's not much point in spending time on the speech you give if you lose.

Well I suppose it depends on what you intend to do with the rest of your life. If in the end, you will remain in the service of the people in some capacity you should give it some thought. If however you intend to chill in La Jolla, Aspen, the Bahamas and Switzerland, you are right, not much point.

318 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:18:34pm

re: #310 freetoken

Oak Apple Day ?

Yeah apparently Malkin and company are Jacobites. I on the other hand have a t-shirt with Charles I's head on- my favorite pub from studying abroad in Ireland was owned by a rumored executioner of Charles I.

319 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:18:42pm

re: #313 Gus

Image: 121106_new_map.jpg

I've also seen one that labels the red states "Dumbfuckistan".

320 freetoken  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:18:55pm

re: #308 aagcobb

No, they will start calling states after the polls in that state close. The earliest will be at 7:00 p.m. ET.

I thought the convention adopted by most media is to wait until the polls close in Pacific Time Zone out here.

321 freetoken  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:18:57pm

re: #308 aagcobb

No, they will start calling states after the polls in that state close. The earliest will be at 7:00 p.m. ET.

I thought the convention adopted by most media is to wait until the polls close in Pacific Time Zone out here.

322 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:18:59pm

re: #102 JamesWI

It has to be flat majority for an option. Otherwise, status quo continues. I think it will eventually break through that barrier, but not just yet.

323 Joanne  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:19:06pm

You know the greatest thing about an Obama win (please God, please!) is that I want to spend some quality time tweeting to Donald Trump.

Let's think of the things we want to say. That should be fun. Any takers? :-)

324 aagcobb  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:19:13pm

re: #315 Joanne

re: #307 Kragarghazi

I thought they had a law or something that they couldn't report until the polls in CA closed...because it affected the vote if someone was losing big time, people don't bother voting.

That would violate the 1st Amendment.

325 iossarian  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:19:14pm

re: #314 Kragarghazi

"Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, you're cool, fuck you, I'm out."

I just want to say... to all the people... all the people in the world today...

*breaks into song*

I belieeeeve the children are our future -
Teach them well -
Let them seize the dayayaaaay...

326 andres  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:19:17pm

re: #272 freetoken

The apparent Republican majority here is because most people don't "care" enough about national politics to align themselves with one party or the other. Most of the Republican politicians here are pro-statehood.

327 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:19:18pm

re: #321 freetoken

I thought the convention adopted by most media is to wait until the polls close in Pacific Time Zone out here.

I've heard that too.

Multiple times.

328 Four More Beers  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:20:23pm

re: #313 Gus

Image: 121106_new_map.jpg

I saw one that labeled the swing states different things like- Virginia was "Confederacy," Wisconsin was "Fat, Pasty Drunks," Ohio was "Rust," etc.

329 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:20:28pm

re: #304 Kragarghazi

[Embedded content]

Well we already know his excuse will be if he comes across as a bitter jackass in his concession speech.

330 aagcobb  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:20:50pm

re: #321 freetoken

I thought the convention adopted by most media is to wait until the polls close in Pacific Time Zone out here.

I could be wrong; its been four years!

331 freetoken  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:21:09pm

Getting some international coverage:


Voting machine changes Obama to Romney

332 OhNoZombies!  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:21:15pm

I was supposed to go to the Party party, but little Mr. I Forget Important School Stuff But Can Remember Everything You Don't Want to Know About Minecraft, forgot to tell me about a project that is due tomorrow.
Ah well.
I got my own beer.

333 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:21:24pm

re: #329 HappyBenghazi

Well we already know his excuse will be if he comes across as a bitter jackass in his concession speech.

He was just being himself?

334 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:21:36pm

re: #325 iossarian

I just want to say... to all the people... all the people in the world today...

*breaks into song*

I belieeeeve the children are our future -
Teach them well -
Let them seize the dayayaaaay...

Mitt Romney comes on stage, a single spot light...

"Sandy my darling you hurt me real bad..."

335 Petero1818  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:21:53pm

Here is a good one I don't expect to see on Fox News...

336 JamesWI  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:22:15pm

re: #328 Summer Lovin' Torture Party

I saw one that labeled the swing states different things like- Virginia was "Confederacy," Wisconsin was "Fat, Pasty Drunks," Ohio was "Rust," etc.

Hey, we aren't all fat.

337 iossarian  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:22:36pm

re: #327 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

I've heard that too.

Multiple times.

I think the media has a tacit (open?) agreement not to release polls, precisely in order to not depress turnout in Western states.

That is one argument, actually, against longer mass-voting windows.

I wonder if people have come up with game theory or other explanations for whether it's better or worse for a political party to publish exit poll information while voting continues?

338 philosophus invidius  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:22:42pm

re: #313 Gus

Plenty of blue states left behind in Jesusland there.

339 freetoken  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:22:51pm

There is a real possibility that courts could tie up voting outcomes in several states, including large EV states like Ohio and PA.

This is best reality tv show to come along since the first seasons of Survivor.

340 JamesWI  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:23:14pm

re: #330 aagcobb

I could be wrong; its been four years!

I don't remember anyone waiting to call states in the last few elections. Maybe I'm just remembering wrong.

341 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:23:24pm

re: #336 JamesWI

Hey, we aren't all fat.

Future versions will note "and/or"

342 engineer cat  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:23:26pm

re: #331 freetoken

Getting some international coverage:

Voting machine changes Obama to Romney

why do i have to read this story in a ozzie newspaper?

343 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:24:07pm

re: #342 engineer cat

why do i have to read this story in a ozzie newspaper?

Because you missed it when I posted it hours ago?

344 engineer cat  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:24:14pm

re: #328 Summer Lovin' Torture Party

I saw one that labeled the swing states different things like- Virginia was "Confederacy," Wisconsin was "Fat, Pasty Drunks," Ohio was "Rust," etc.

how long do i have to live in california before i become a blond surfer d00d?

345 freetoken  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:24:15pm

re: #342 engineer cat

why do i have to read this story in a ozzie newspaper?

You don't. You could try Ireland instead:


US voting machine switches sides

346 andres  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:24:30pm

re: #322 ProGunLiberal

It has to be flat majority for an option. Otherwise, status quo continues. I think it will eventually break through that barrier, but not just yet.

The way the referendum is set up, it has a very good chance of breaking that barrier. The current options are (ignoring the first question) 1) statehood, 2) independence, and 3) redefined ELA (which is presented as a form of independence).

347 engineer cat  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:25:18pm

re: #343 Kragarghazi

Because you missed it when I posted it hours ago?

it must have been while i was sleeping in the laundry basket

348 iossarian  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:26:02pm

re: #345 freetoken

You don't. You could try Ireland instead:

US voting machine switches sides

Does it come with a scratch-and-sniff Guiness pull-out?

If not I'll stick to the Ozzie one with its tinnies and Sheilas, thanks very much.

349 Amory Blaine  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:26:04pm

re: #344 engineer cat

how long do i have to live in california before i become a blond surfer d00d?

Depends on how good your weed is!!
/

350 philosophus invidius  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:26:12pm

re: #331 freetoken

The video:


I believe that Romney voters have made the same complaint.

Can't they put the choices further apart? Like 6"?

351 iossarian  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:26:31pm

re: #347 engineer cat

it must have been while i was sleeping in the laundry basket

I've always wondered what kind of engineering a cat would actually do.

352 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:26:39pm

re: #314 Kragarghazi

"Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, you're cool, fuck you, I'm out."

353 darthstar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:26:55pm

re: #304 Kragarghazi

[Embedded content]

He'll just insert "NOT" at the end of every sentence to turn it into a concession speech.

354 Majacita  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:27:23pm

The networks have a gentleman's agreement not to officially call a national winner and the candidates aren't supposed to give concession speech until the polls close. Jimmy Carter gave his concession speech while California was still voting and some important ballot initiatives failed.

355 Four More Beers  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:27:29pm

From the woman that I dated briefly and then I got defended today:

The American Way is NOT SOCIALISM MR. OBAMA!

Vote Romney/Ryan and vote for our Country! Take it back and show those "playing the system" for generations and those who feel entitled to take from those who work hard, receive education, and act responsibly that we are FED UP with THE FEDS! TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!!!!! LET EM' RIOT!!!!!! GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH!

Can't imagine why I never married this one.
///

356 Joanne  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:27:45pm
357 darthstar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:28:08pm

re: #353 darthstar

He'll just insert "NOT" at the end of every sentence to turn it into a concession speech.

By the way, I predicted the other day that Mitt Romney wouldn't have a concession speech written, given how he threw his convention speech together at the last minute. Acknowledge a black man for beating him fairly in an election? Never!

358 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:28:15pm

re: #352 Ben G. Hazi

[Embedded content]

So far, I've only managed to do that once in my life.

359 Usually refered to as anyways  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:28:52pm

re: #336 JamesWI

Hey, we aren't all fat.

Quite right to take offence.

Some relate more closely to obesity, corpulence, stoutness, overweight, heaviness, plumpness, rotundity, portliness, chubbiness, podginess or pudginess, tubbiness, fleshiness, paunchiness, flabbiness.

360 Joanne  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:29:18pm

re: #355 Summer Lovin' Torture Party

Uhm, wow. Is she on Medicare and SocSec, too? That would be icing.

361 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:29:19pm

Rush Limbaugh: Media ignoring Sandy impact

“I’ll tell you something, that whole Sandy narrative, that it helped Obama, Who started that?” Limbaugh said Tuesday, according to a transcript. “It wasn’t our guys. That was the media that started that, kept hoping and praying that Sandy would give Obama — but they knew last week that Obama needed a boost. They’ve known all along that Obama doesn’t even have his base cemented and tied down.

362 darthstar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:29:19pm
363 Amory Blaine  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:29:26pm

re: #269 DisturbedEma

Taking my 18 year olf son to vote now- I am one proud Momma:)

Congratz.

364 Kragar  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:29:49pm

re: #359 ozbloke

Quite right to take offence.

Some relate more closely to obesity, corpulence, stoutness, overweight, heaviness, plumpness, rotundity, portliness, chubbiness, podginess or pudginess, tubbiness, fleshiness, paunchiness, flabbiness.

"I'm not fat... I'm festively plump.

365 Joanne  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:30:11pm

re: #362 darthstar

My dog hates me right now.

Image: 534111_10151256571903024_786538668_n.jpg

AW!! Cute!

366 Joanne  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:30:29pm

re: #364 Kragarghazi

"I'm not fat... I'm festively plump.

Ewe's not fat, ewe's just fluffy!

367 Petero1818  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:34:21pm

re: #314 Kragarghazi

"Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, you're cool, fuck you, I'm out."

One of the craziest concession speeches ever. For background, this is Jaques Parizeau former Premier of the province of Quebec and leader of the Parti Quebecois separatist party, shortly after losing the referendum on Quebec independence. When you are old, drunk and calling it quits you can pretty much say whatever you like. Crazy part starts 20 seconds in.

368 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:22:16pm

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