Election Night Open, Thread One
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It won’t be long before exit poll results start trickling out of the media, so here’s a first open thread of the evening to watch as America decides.
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Joanne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:30:44pm |
RT @badwillhunting: Detroit Free Press: Man dies, revived via CPR at polling-place. First question: "So... did I vote?"t.co/1kn ...— SEZ BluNatic Fringe (@BoiseSEZ) November 6, 2012
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Amory Blaine Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:31:03pm |
Volcano. Check
Scotch. Check
Soda. Check
Ice. Check
Bring it on!!
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freetoken Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:31:05pm |
The local "patriots" are not welcome:
Tea party poll watchers barred from Ohio polling stations
The tea party-affiliated group True the Vote has been barred from monitoring polling places in Franklin County, the second largest county in Ohio, after allegedly submitting fraudulent forms.
“The Franklin County Board of Elections did not allow Election Day polling location observer appointments filed by the True the Vote group,” board spokesman Ben Pisctelli told The Columbus Dispatch in a statement. “The appointments were not properly filed and our voting location managers were instructed not to honor any appointment on behalf of the True the Vote group.”
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:31:09pm |
re: #3 Kragarghazi
BENGHAZI!
Enjoy Benghazi while it lasts. I predict that tomorrow it'll all be about stealin' the vote!
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HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:31:28pm |
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:31:54pm |
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Kaessa Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:32:01pm |
I am sick, in my pajamas, sitting in front of the computer waiting for results to come in. I'm ready.
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Kragar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:32:02pm |
Election prediction: Better than 50% odds Bryan Fischer will end up in either a gun or rentboy related incident by the weekend.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:32:03pm |
Have CNN on now. Looks like a big turnout nationwide.
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:32:22pm |
re: #9 Ben Jhazi
Enjoy Benghazi while it lasts. I predict that tomorrow it'll all be about stealin' the vote!
Voter fraudghazi.
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Kragar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:32:47pm |
re: #12 Our Precious Bodily Fluids
Romney ralley in Ohio.
[Embedded content]
Facepalms to infinity.
HE'S AN ATHEIST AND A MUSLIM!
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HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:32:48pm |
re: #17 ProGunLiberal
How is the voting in NJ and NY?
No word there. They're only talking about swing states now.
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:33:21pm |
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Neutral President Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:33:33pm |
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Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:33:46pm |
I opened registration, so keep your eyes peeled for bridge-dwellers.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:34:24pm |
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:34:37pm |
re: #19 HappyBenghazi
I'm curious how it goes, with the massive disruption.
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Majacita Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:34:39pm |
Sitting here with a bunch of leftwing ex-Republicans getting ready to watch the returns come in. I hope this is fun. I am so nervous, I am still checking 538, just in case.....
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iossarian Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:35:16pm |
re: #22 Charles Johnson
I opened registration, so keep your eyes peeled for bridge-dwellers.
Election + open registration = ?
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Ben G. Hazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:35:46pm |
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William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:36:21pm |
Just got back from my shift as a poll worker in the small northern Wisconsin city of Hayward. Of the roughly 1500 eligible to vote, ~800 had voted when I left at 4:00 PM. Polls are open till 8:00 PM here. No problems just a nice steady stream of voters all day long.
Over 200 absentee ballots, which is a large number for here.
How are other places faring today?
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:36:55pm |
re: #4 Ben Jhazi
Fresh cuppa joe right at my side.
Me too...went to drop off my ballot, picked up a pulled-pork sandwich and a coffee, and got my mail (with two pounds of coffee delivered there as well!).
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Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:36:55pm |
All the coding work this week seems to have paid off - server's running great now. The load on the database is vastly decreased. Knock wood.
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Kragar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:37:34pm |
re: #22 Charles Johnson
I opened registration, so keep your eyes peeled for bridge-dwellers.
WHERE'S APONE!?! WHERE'S APONE!?!
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Joanne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:37:36pm |
More than 1000 voters forced to use provisional ballots in a single Franklin county precinct.
The Free Press -- Independent News Media from Columbus, Ohio freepress.org/departments/di... #election @ofa #voters— Tracy Palm (@tpalmtree) November 6, 2012
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Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:37:44pm |
Yes, I know I just left a flaming bag of dogshit on Murphy's doorstep, rang the bell, and ran away.
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:38:09pm |
re: #30 darthstar
Me too...went to drop off my ballot, picked up a pulled-pork sandwich and a coffee, and got my mail (with two pounds of coffee delivered there as well!).
Did you pick up any Benghazi? We're running low on it. Rush Limbaugh is running through a short ton per day.
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Kragar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:38:09pm |
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:38:18pm |
Pre-election results anxiety? This cartoon has just the advice you need for reduced stress: #InNateSilverWeTrust twitter.com/KCGibbons/stat...— KCGibbons (@KCGibbons) November 6, 2012
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Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:38:19pm |
LGF is all the updating I need. No TV no radio, but we are having steak for dinner. Hmmm, maybe I missed my chance to have a chicken in every pot. Really hoping we end the death penalty, make the 3 strikes law 3 violent felonies to apply, and for an admittedly very unlikely change in state Senator.
LGF, a good dinner and good music. That's my election night. Sure beats KFC and CBS.
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:38:48pm |
re: #37 Obdicut
Did you pick up any Benghazi? We're running low on it. Rush Limbaugh is running through a short ton per day.
Benghazi is just his pet name for Oxycontin.
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GeneJockey Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:39:33pm |
re: #5 Joanne
Cue Wingnut claims of dead people voting in 3...2...1...
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iossarian Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:39:35pm |
OMG I just watched the Fox News "black man intimidates voters" clip. I can't believe I was seriously discussing the relative nature of voter intimidation and vote suppression before. What you have there is an older gentleman wearing a beret opening the door for people. If he was white it would be the most perfectly normal thing in the world, which of course tells you everything you need to know about Fox News.
Anyone who thinks that is anything like putting up a billboard telling black people they could go to jail for voting needs their head examined.
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freetoken Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:39:58pm |
re: #34 Joanne
With all this stuff going on in OH, it's easy for me to believe some judge will step in tomorrow and order a hold on the state secretary certifying the totals until everything gets resolved.
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:40:16pm |
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wrenchwench Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:40:21pm |
[...]The small community of Dixville Notch continued its now 52-year tradition of an Election Day midnight vote where eligible adults cast their ballots at The Balsams, a resort in the town. Ten voted.
New Hampshire's only worth four electoral votes (as are Rhode Island and Hawaii for comparison. Alaska is worth three.), but it's a swing state nonetheless. When the Dixville Notch votes were counted, the community was split exactly down the middle: five for Obama and five for Romney, and Twitter was afire with ironic, try-hard tweets about microcosms and recounts and the like, and it got crazy for a second. Then another New Hampshire town, Hart's Location, voted. Landslide.
Obama carried Hart's Location 23 votes to Romney's nine. Gary Johnson got a couple votes, too, but who the fuck is Gary Johnson. Now the president is up 28-14 statewide, and given New Hampshire's population density, Obama's probably got four electoral votes wrapped up. Plus, Nate Silver.
[...]
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Neutral President Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:40:29pm |
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:41:27pm |
re: #36 HappyBenghazi
God Wolf you really want that tie.
Jesus...I tried CNN...lasted less than a minute. They really love their holodeck don't they?
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Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:41:51pm |
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Joanne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:42:08pm |
re: #45 freetoken
With all this stuff going on in OH, it's easy for me to believe some judge will step in tomorrow and order a hold on the state secretary certifying the totals until everything gets resolved.
I've been trying to find the status of the lawsuit in OH of the SecState Husted using "experimental software" on their eVoting machines. Initially denied but I am still reading what happened next.
It looks like a lot of provisional ballots as not just eVoting machines are fucked but the scanners, too.
This is going to be a OH clusterfuck. A big one.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:42:10pm |
re: #49 darthstar
Jesus...I tried CNN...lasted less than a minute. They really love their holodeck don't they?
I am waiting for it to be 8 EST so I can put on PBS's coverage. But yeah CNN is really that bad.
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:42:45pm |
re: #49 darthstar
Jesus...I tried CNN...lasted less than a minute. They really love their holodeck don't they?
Holy. Cow. The magic wall... Is ON THE FLOOR instagr.am/p/RtIg4MGcaV/— Brian Fung (@b_fung) November 6, 2012
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iossarian Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:42:48pm |
re: #50 Varek Raith
What manner of sorcery is this?!?!
I've been trying with magnets on the screen for half an hour and I still can't get the little glyphs to turn upside down.
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Neutral President Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:42:48pm |
re: #33 Kragarghazi
WHERE'S APONE!?! WHERE'S APONE!?!
The Sarge is gone! Let's get the fuck outta here!
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:42:49pm |
re: #49 darthstar
Jesus...I tried CNN...lasted less than a minute. They really love their holodeck don't they?
Oh don't tell me they're using that fucking thing.
If they're going to, I think they should be forced to only have holograms of Tupac and Notorious B.I.G.
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Kragar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:43:12pm |
re: #48 Neutral President
Trollpocalypse?
I have incendiary ammo ready.
This is a test of the Emergency Troll Warning System
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Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:43:32pm |
Barack Obama just left an Election Night comment on Reddit reddit.com/r/politics/com...— BuzzFeed (@BuzzFeed) November 6, 2012
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:43:48pm |
Just back from the polls and I managed to convert my sister. Said initially that she was going to vote third party because she didn't really like either, but then I worked her around to understanding how big the issues that mattered to her (women's rights, birth control, equal rights for gays) were and how Democrats were fighting for them.
Think I'll treat myself to some hot chocolate for my good work (and the fact that its frakin' cold out there).
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Petero1818 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:44:06pm |
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Neutral President Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:45:06pm |
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Kragar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:47:33pm |
Sarah Palin To Greta: Evangelicals Riled Up By Obama Trying To ‘Violate The Religious Conscience’
Palin pointed to the Democratic National Convention, when the “reigning political party” tried to “boot God out of their written platform.” That played a role in riling up some faith-based voters, she asserted.
“It’s very inclusive and quite tolerant as opposed to what the mainstream media wants people to believe about the Christian voting bloc,” Palin said. They want to pretend the voting bloc isn’t there, she added.
Palin further criticized President Obama’s policies that “violate the religious conscience,” referring to the health care law.
The “mainstream media wants to people to believe the voting bloc of Evangelicals are a bunch of white voters who are bitterly clinging to their God and their constitution,” Palin said. But in reality, they are quite “diverse.”
Twit, I'm riled up by Evangelicals trying to impose their beliefs on my conscience.
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Awea Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:47:45pm |
re: #22 Charles Johnson
Finally, I thought there was something wrong with my browser...lol
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Joanne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:47:46pm |
re: #22 Charles Johnson
I opened registration, so keep your eyes peeled for bridge-dwellers.
Dude...that is a brave move.
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:48:26pm |
Hey there Majacita. Your problem with Lidane's comment is?
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Amory Blaine Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:49:05pm |
re: #66 Joanne
Dude...that is a brave move.
Then he declared the server is running great before election results!!!
Brass ones. Stones really.
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JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:49:13pm |
Now is the nowcast of our forecasts, made glorious projection by this mean of polls.
— Nate Silver 2.0 (@fivethirtynate) November 6, 2012
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:49:24pm |
I'm on my third mocha java. I was almost hit today by a cab --serious freak-out. If it wasn't election 2012 I might be calm by now.
Only in America, our POTUS elections are more popular than football. Seriously, are there any better ratings in TV than election time?
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Kragar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:50:04pm |
re: #55 Neutral President
The Sarge is gone! Let's get the fuck outta here!
THEY'RE COMING OUT OF THE WALLS!!!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:50:26pm |
re: #22 Charles Johnson
I opened registration, so keep your eyes peeled for bridge-dwellers.
Hatchlings! Now that is the cherry on top!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:51:26pm |
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Kragar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:51:52pm |
re: #67 ProGunLiberal
Hey there Majacita. Your problem with Lidane's comment is?
I need a show users buttons
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:52:33pm |
re: #50 Varek Raith
What manner of sorcery is this?!?!
˙ʞɔɐq ʇı puǝs ɯıɥ ǝʌɐɥ puɐ ɐılɐɹʇsnɐ uı puǝıɹɟ ɐ oʇ ʎɐs oʇ ʇuɐʍ ı ʇɐɥʍ ʇxǝʇ ʇsnɾ ı
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Ben G. Hazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:54:11pm |
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erik_t Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:55:23pm |
This is what I hope for from tonight.
I don't expect the current crop of GOP politicians to work first for the betterment of the nation. They've shown that's not their first priority. It's a shame, a crying shame, but it is what it is.
I want them to realize that pedantic and obstinate obstruction is not a winning political strategy. The current crop may never work in good faith, but maybe the young ones who will start running in ten or twenty years will never even consider obstruction to be a legitimate political tactic. That would be a net gain.
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Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:56:23pm |
I heard the latest prediction from Dick Morris is Romney over Truman with 311 EVs.
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JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:57:15pm |
re: #71 Varek Raith
Oh geez, shut up Wolf.
There is absolutely no reason to watch CNN tonight. Watch MSNBC to see glee, watch Fox to revel in the bitter tears, watch CNN to .....make yourself feel smarter in comparison to the people on the screen?
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erik_t Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:57:37pm |
re: #81 Sophghazi, Gingham Style (AKA Bronco Bama)
I heard the latest prediction from Dick Morris is Romney over Truman with 311 EVs.
Really? The Morris tweet I saw was 402-198 Romney.
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erik_t Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:58:14pm |
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:58:25pm |
re: #82 JamesWI
There is absolutely no reason to watch CNN tonight. Watch MSNBC to see glee, watch Fox to revel in the bitter tears, watch CNN to .....make yourself feel smarter in comparison to the people on the screen?
You watch CNN to watch people mentally break under the press.
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Majacita Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:58:29pm |
re: #83 Majacita
I didn't downding that.
I went to check to see what he said and came back and updinged it.
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Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:58:53pm |
Rerun
Breaking: Exclusive photo of black panther spotted at polling place. #p2 #tlot #Obama #Wingnuts #Derp twitter.com/Gus_802/status...— Gus (@Gus_802) November 6, 2012
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:59:45pm |
re: #87 Majacita
See, I am the cynical one on here.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:00:03pm |
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Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:00:08pm |
re: #40 darthstar
Question. Countless political cartoons have tempted me to drop into a page or post. But the copyright thing stops me. Does linking from Twitter get us off the hook for that concern?
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ozharas Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:01:51pm |
Quick hi, long time lurker, time zones meant I always missed registrations... at work today in East Coast Australia, finger hovering over the refresh button. Got to say, US voting systems has me stumped - always work elections here for the electoral commission, never seen a queue longer than 10-15 minutes, compulsory voting, everywhere you vote in Australia, you vote using the exact same system, paper and pencil...
Anyway, looking forward to a very interesting day!
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:01:52pm |
Think what's gonna ultimately drive me batty is the waiting. But if I start playing Fallout, I'll miss the beginning of the fun.
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Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:02:23pm |
re: #65 Awea
Finally, I thought there was something wrong with my browser...lol
Welcome to the board. Been lurking long?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:02:31pm |
re: #76 Our Precious Bodily Fluids
˙ʞɔɐq ʇı puǝs ɯıɥ ǝʌɐɥ puɐ ɐılɐɹʇsnɐ uı puǝıɹɟ ɐ oʇ ʎɐs oʇ ʇuɐʍ ı ʇɐɥʍ ʇxǝʇ ʇsnɾ ı
ROTFLAMO!
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:02:50pm |
re: #91 Daniel Ballard
Question. Countless political cartoons have tempted me to drop into a page or post. But the copyright thing stops me. Does linking from Twitter get us off the hook for that concern?
If Charles was to post a New Yorker cartoon on the front page, even as a twitter embed, it would probably be something that would get a letter of cease and desist. If you or I are posting a comment with an embedded image, I don't think anyone really gives it much thought.
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Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:02:59pm |
re: #93 Targetpractice
Think what's gonna ultimately drive me batty is the waiting. But if I start playing Fallout, I'll miss the beginning of the fun.
I'm playing minecraft.
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Joanne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:03:15pm |
re: #92 ozharas
Welcome and yeah, our elections are insane. It's like someone doesn't want us to vote.
/sarcasm
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Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:03:18pm |
Not really sure why GOPers think it's reassuring to tell their people they're outperforming McCain.— Ramesh Ponnuru (@RameshPonnuru) November 6, 2012
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:03:30pm |
If Obama wins I'm going to celebrate... If Romney wins I'm going to watch Sesame Street one last time #VoteObama— Frankie Roth (@FrankieRoth) November 6, 2012
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:03:36pm |
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lawhawk Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:03:48pm |
Sorry I can't think about exit polls and early returns. Mrs. Lawhawk is stuck in bus hell at the Port Authority because NJTransit and/or Port Authority has completely botched the bus service once again.
There's supposed to be emergency bus service to several park and rides in addition to regularly scheduled buses (such as the schedule is - and it's close to normal as far as routings and numbers are concerned).
Well, some brainiac decided to shift gates so that the normal service got boxed out; they're waiting around with no place to go, while the emergency service attempts to move people.
This is what happens when you put NJTransit and PANYNJ in charge of an emergency response.
Not only that, but they once again show the competencies of the MTA to move people - and they learn from their mistakes within 24 hours. NJTransit? Not so much. Can't wait until they finally get rail service reestablished, though that could be months from now in some parts of the state.
The bus terminal can't handle the volume, and instead of setting up bus provisions running out of the Holland tunnel - so it wouldn't interfere with uptown traffic, they've got everyone trying to jam into an already overcrowded space where there's no margin for error.
[deleted]
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Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:03:49pm |
Just about to open the beer here (courtesy messrs Stella and Artois).
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CuriousLurker Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:03:56pm |
*walks in with cup of café con leche made with strong Cuban espresso, extra smokes, brown paper bag to control anxiety-induced hyperventilation, and melodramatically flops down on fainting couch, just in case...*
S'up, Lizardim? Gah, I'm on pins & needles. This is my first LGF presidential election night, woohoo! I was so worried I was going to miss it and have to listen to the whole thing on the radio.
Why does everyone have Ghazi in their nic? Did I miss a meme?
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:04:16pm |
re: #93 Targetpractice
Think what's gonna ultimately drive me batty is the waiting. But if I start playing Fallout, I'll miss the beginning of the fun.
I think for me it'll be Borderlands 2 on the desktop with Twitter and randomonium on the laptop off to the side, with just enough wine so as not to be a mess tomorrow. Not listening to any talking heads go on at length, least of all my own.
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erik_t Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:04:32pm |
re: #106 Ayeless in Ghazi
Just about to open the beer here (courtesy messrs Stella and Artois).
InBev wrecked that beer IMHO, if it was ever good enough to wreck (before my time).
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aagcobb Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:04:37pm |
re: #40 darthstar
[Embedded content]
I don't even have to check Nate Silver to know the President is winning. I know because even unskewedpolls.com has Romney winning with only 275 EV, and that's based on wishful thinking about Ohio.
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Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:04:51pm |
re: #104 Gretchen G.Tiger
they screwed-up. That no more looks like a cat than my coffee cup does.
Thanks. Most of them look like bears. Not in the mood for Comic Book guy nitpicking right now.
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Awea Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:05:05pm |
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Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:05:23pm |
re: #92 ozharas
Quick hi, long time lurker, time zones meant I always missed registrations... at work today in East Coast Australia, finger hovering over the refresh button. Got to say, US voting systems has me stumped - always work elections here for the electoral commission, never seen a queue longer than 10-15 minutes, compulsory voting, everywhere you vote in Australia, you vote using the exact same system, paper and pencil...
Anyway, looking forward to a very interesting day!
Oh Hello and hey do tell! What kind of voting machines do you use? Nationally all the same? ID required? Vote by mail? I suspect we could learn a lot from our friends down under.
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:05:24pm |
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freetoken Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:05:34pm |
National Journal craftily preparing for the obvious Obama victory:
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:05:39pm |
Remind me about how Dems are the ones who steal elections...
Oregon election worker fired for altering ballots to Republican straight ticket
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:05:42pm |
Hatchlings!
There used to be a post somewhere with a welcome message and list of helpful rules for you. I have no idea if it still exists. I shall sumarize:
-Pick-up your shells
-mop up any goo
-First drink is on you -I take fresh coffee with cream and sugar
-Welcome!
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:06:10pm |
re: #99 Varek Raith
I'm playing minecraft.
I rediscovered the game recently when I started playing it in hardcore mode which really does present a serious challenge. I've made it as far as locating a stronghold with end portal but without enough stuff to activate it. Eventually I'll make it to The End on hardcore mode just for the challenge.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:06:20pm |
re: #105 lawhawk
Sorry I can't think about exit polls and early returns. Mrs. Lawhawk is stuck in bus hell at the Port Authority because NJTransit and/or Port Authority has completely botched the bus service once again.
There's supposed to be emergency bus service to several park and rides in addition to regularly scheduled buses (such as the schedule is - and it's close to normal as far as routings and numbers are concerned).
Well, some brainiac decided to shift gates so that the normal service got boxed out; they're waiting around with no place to go, while the emergency service attempts to move people.
This is what happens when you put NJTransit and PANYNJ in charge of an emergency response.
Not only that, but they once again show the competencies of the MTA to move people - and they learn from their mistakes within 24 hours. NJTransit? Not so much. Can't wait until they finally get rail service reestablished, though that could be months from now in some parts of the state.
The bus terminal can't handle the volume, and instead of setting up bus provisions running out of the Holland tunnel - so it wouldn't interfere with uptown traffic, they've got everyone trying to jam into an already overcrowded space where there's no margin for error.
[deleted]
{{{{{{{lawhawk and Mrs. Lawhawk}}}}}}}
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Usually refered to as anyways Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:06:25pm |
re: #92 ozharas
Quick hi, long time lurker, time zones meant I always missed registrations... at work today in East Coast Australia, finger hovering over the refresh button. Got to say, US voting systems has me stumped - always work elections here for the electoral commission, never seen a queue longer than 10-15 minutes, compulsory voting, everywhere you vote in Australia, you vote using the exact same system, paper and pencil...
Anyway, looking forward to a very interesting day!
Welcome,
NNSW here, took the day off, glued to the net till there is a result.
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:06:35pm |
re: #106 Ayeless in Ghazi
Just about to open the beer here (courtesy messrs Stella and Artois).
Four more beers!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:07:05pm |
re: #107 CuriousLurker
*walks in with cup of café con leche made with strong Cuban espresso, extra smokes, brown paper bag to control anxiety-induced hyperventilation, and melodramatically flops down on fainting couch, just in case...*
S'up, Lizardim? Gah, I'm on pins & needles. This is my first LGF presidential election night, woohoo! I was so worried I was going to miss it and have to listen to the whole thing on the radio.
Why does everyone have Ghazi in their nic? Did I miss a meme?
It's my third POTUS election as a Lizard and it's a special thing. I'm glad you are here!
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Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:07:14pm |
re: #107 CuriousLurker
Why does everyone have Ghazi in their nic? Did I miss a meme?
Because apparently, Joe Scarborough was shouting about Benghazi this morning. I think.
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Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:07:16pm |
re: #107 CuriousLurker
*walks in with cup of café con leche made with strong Cuban espresso, extra smokes, brown paper bag to control anxiety-induced hyperventilation, and melodramatically flops down on fainting couch, just in case...*
S'up, Lizardim? Gah, I'm on pins & needles. This is my first LGF presidential election night, woohoo! I was so worried I was going to miss it and have to listen to the whole thing on the radio.
Why does everyone have Ghazi in their nic? Did I miss a meme?
Yeah as in the "benghazi" fauxtrage.
On the upside-CJ has gotten us shiny new servers to keep up.
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:07:18pm |
re: #105 lawhawk
Christie's support is going to erode quickly unless the mass transit can sort their shit out.
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CuriousLurker Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:07:48pm |
re: #120 Gretchen G.Tiger
Is that you that started following me on Twitter? Just checking as you don't have your Twitter ID in your LGF profile.
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:07:51pm |
re: #115 freetoken
National Journal craftily preparing for the obvious Obama victory:
Supposing Obama wins by the margins Silver has projected, he'll basically win by about the same amount as Bush did in '04. Which was hailed as proof of a "mandate" and proof that the people were willing to give him a second chance.
Funny, can't understand why they wouldn't want to do the same for Obama...///
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:07:56pm |
re: #107 CuriousLurker
Why does everyone have Ghazi in their nic? Did I miss a meme?
Scarborough ranted Benghazi like an upset child.
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CuriousLurker Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:08:46pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:08:49pm |
re: #127 CuriousLurker
Is that you that started following me on Twitter? Just checking as you don't have your Twitter ID in your LGF profile.
Probably, I was doing something on Twitter the other day. I haven't been back to it since or downloaded it to my phone. Life has been interesting this week.
I have to put it in my LGF profile as well? Ok, it's on the list.
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Joanne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:09:50pm |
re: #115 freetoken
National Journal craftily preparing for the obvious Obama victory:
What I read: blah blah blah blah blah
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CuriousLurker Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:10:11pm |
re: #131 Gretchen G.Tiger
I have to put it in my LGF profile as well? Ok, it's on the list.
Well, you don't have to, but it helps (so we know it's not a stalker posing as you).
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Ben G. Hazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:10:30pm |
re: #107 CuriousLurker
*walks in with cup of café con leche made with strong Cuban espresso, extra smokes, brown paper bag to control anxiety-induced hyperventilation, and melodramatically flops down on fainting couch, just in case...*
S'up, Lizardim? Gah, I'm on pins & needles. This is my first LGF presidential election night, woohoo! I was so worried I was going to miss it and have to listen to the whole thing on the radio.
Why does everyone have Ghazi in their nic? Did I miss a meme?
Joe Scarborough was acting like an idiot earlier today by trying to push Benghazi while having a guest on talking about voter suppression.
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Usually refered to as anyways Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:10:47pm |
re: #113 Daniel Ballard
Oh Hello and hey do tell! What kind of voting machines do you use? Nationally all the same? ID required? Vote by mail? I suspect we could learn a lot from our friends down under.
Pass me a tissue.
I've been here five years and no one asks me!
Pencil and paper.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:11:17pm |
re: #133 CuriousLurker
Well, you don't have to, but it helps (so we know it's not a stalker posing as you).
I will, I just, you know, am old. It' takes me a while to figure-out these new fangled things. I appreciate the tips.
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CuriousLurker Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:11:22pm |
re: #129 Obdicut
Scarborough ranted Benghazi like an upset child.
Some of these guys never get past their frat boy mentality. Ugh.
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wrenchwench Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:12:02pm |
re: #107 CuriousLurker
*walks in with cup of café con leche made with strong Cuban espresso, extra smokes, brown paper bag to control anxiety-induced hyperventilation, and melodramatically flops down on fainting couch, just in case...*
S'up, Lizardim? Gah, I'm on pins & needles. This is my first LGF presidential election night, woohoo! I was so worried I was going to miss it and have to listen to the whole thing on the radio.
Why does everyone have Ghazi in their nic? Did I miss a meme?
3rd cup of tea is the charm. I didn't have to leave it steeping in the microwave for 20 minutes while I dealt with a customer, like I did the first two.
I registered on election day in 2004. Then I didn't comment until the following January. :)
Benghazi is Obama's Katrina, his Watergate, his Waterloo, his Marine barracks in Lebanon, his Iran Hostages, his Hurricane Sandy--oh wait, that was already his....
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freetoken Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:12:07pm |
At least, taking the planet on the whole, to the rest of the universe we're "mostly harmless" :
Ohio Voters Are Sick and Tired of Deciding the Fate of the Universe
Every four years, the American people ask themselves a important question: Why, again, do we let Ohio decide the fate of the free world?
[...]
I thought the question was why do we let Iowa decide who gets to run for President.
Ohio, Iowa - it's all fly-over country most of the time to most people.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:12:12pm |
I bought one of those inversion tables to stretch out my back. Once you get the thing set up right it's awesome. The best money I've spent in a long while.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:12:26pm |
re: #135 ozbloke
Pass me a tissue.
I've been here five years and no one asks me!Pencil and paper.
(((ozbloke)))
:)
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Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:12:38pm |
FACT CHECK: True. RT @davidfrum I think @pareene is mocking me. salon.com/2012/11/06/why...— Salon.com (@Salon) November 6, 2012
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Areopagitica Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:12:45pm |
Voted this morning. We even had a circuit court judge up for retention in Cook County who was suspended from the bench and appearently declared insane by a psychiatrist but she'll probably keep her job and $180k salary;)
Got my frozen pizza all set for a night of watching pundits yell at each other and I guess John Boner already threw a salvo out tonight about how his house won't consider any revenue increase measures...which means everything old is new again in DC. (Unless mr etch a sketch pulls one out)
Did JibJab make any animated paid us this election?
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:13:31pm |
Leaked exit polls reveal 18-22 year old voters from 2008 are now 22-26.— Eric Kleefeld (@EricKleefeld) November 6, 2012
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Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:13:35pm |
re: #133 CuriousLurker
Heh. I did this LGF poll. Eighty plus percent for Obama. Just 1 single undecided. Someone tipped me that the stalker site had run screenshots of that page. So I put on my Sonicwall Hazmat suit and took a look for myself. Ya know what? They claim CJ uses code that skews for Obama. LOL LOL. They just could would not grasp that this board would be in favor of re election.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:14:03pm |
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Majacita Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:14:15pm |
I have to be gone for 30 minutes. No one say anything really funny or post anything about results til I get back, kay? Well I guess I will have to read twice as fast then......
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CuriousLurker Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:14:37pm |
re: #138 wrenchghaziwenchghazi
You're staying tonight, not leaving early this time, right?
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RadicalModerate Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:14:39pm |
All right, CNN's exit poll questions are simply insipidly pointless.
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:14:46pm |
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wrenchwench Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:15:02pm |
re: #117 Gretchen G.Tiger
Hatchlings!
There used to be a post somewhere with a welcome message and list of helpful rules for you. I have no idea if it still exists. I shall sumarize:
-Pick-up your shells
-mop up any goo
-First drink is on you -I take fresh coffee with cream and sugar-Welcome!
I like that we seem to have gotten away from demanding drinks from hatchlings. Never seemed particularly hospitable. Picking up the shells is just personal responsibility.
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Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:15:02pm |
Hey, CNN? Nobody is impressed by touchscreens anymore. Maybe they were three election cycles ago, but by now most people carry one around in their pocket.
Just FYI.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:15:05pm |
re: #143 Areopagitica
Voted this morning. We even had a circuit court judge up for retention in Cook County who was suspended from the bench and appearently declared insane by a psychiatrist but she'll probably keep her job and $180k salary;)
Got my frozen pizza all set for a night of watching pundits yell at each other and I guess John Boner already threw a salvo out tonight about how his house won't consider any revenue increase measures...which means everything old is new again in DC. (Unless mr etch a sketch pulls one out)
Did JibJab make any animated paid us this election?
"insane" is not a medical diagnosis. Mental Illness does not usually disqualify someone from their job -- especially if that person is under the care of a mental health professional.
WE cannot continue to accept this taboo.
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Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:15:21pm |
re: #135 ozbloke
Pass me a tissue.
I've been here five years and no one asks me!Pencil and paper.
Good point. I owe you a pack of Fosters.
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:15:25pm |
re: #152 Sophghazi, Gingham Style (AKA Bronco Bama)
Hey, CNN? Nobody is impressed by touchscreens anymore. Maybe they were three election cycles ago, but by now most people carry one around in their pocket.
Just FYI.
Touch screens? What sorcery is this!?
///
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freetoken Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:15:25pm |
re: #149 RadicalModerate
All right, CNN
's exit poll questions areis simply insipidly pointless.
Sad but true state of "television".
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Four More Beers Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:15:39pm |
Man, it is going to look like a scene from The Exorcist tonight on the right when Obama wins.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:15:48pm |
re: #145 Daniel Ballard
Eighty plus percent for Obama.
Damn, that seems low. I wonder if the odd 10% or so just keep quiet about it.
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CuriousLurker Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:16:19pm |
re: #145 Daniel Ballard
Heh. I did this LGF poll. Eighty plus percent for Obama. Just 1 single undecided. Someone tipped me that the stalker site had run screenshots of that page. So I put on my Sonicwall Hazmat suit and took a look for myself. Ya know what? They claim CJ uses code that skews for Obama. LOL LOL. They just
couldwould not grasp that this board would be in favor of re election.
LOL, I'm not surprised they think it's a conspiracy.
I saw the poll, voted, but forgot to go back and check it after the first day. Sounds like an Obama landslide. ;o)
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:16:25pm |
re: #157 Kid Aghazi
Man, it is going to look like a scene from The Exorcist tonight on the right when Obama wins.
I'm not moping up the pea soup.
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:16:29pm |
Early exits: Herp 46%, Derp 44%, Undecided 10%— daveweigel (@daveweigel) November 6, 2012
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:16:31pm |
re: #152 Sophghazi, Gingham Style (AKA Bronco Bama)
Hey, CNN? Nobody is impressed by touchscreens anymore. Maybe they were three election cycles ago, but by now most people carry one around in their pocket.
Just FYI.
Are they doing holograms this year again too?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:16:32pm |
re: #151 wrenchghaziwenchghazi
I like that we seem to have gotten away from demanding drinks from hatchlings. Never seemed particularly hospitable. Picking up the shells is just personal responsibility.
I don't know. I rather liked the idea of having someone actually serve me my coffee. I get tired of getting up all the time and getting it myself.
:0
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freetoken Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:16:36pm |
NRO on top of the horrible suppression of the anti-Obama voters:
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Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:17:03pm |
re: #145 Daniel Ballard
Heh. I did this LGF poll. Eighty plus percent for Obama. Just 1 single undecided. Someone tipped me that the stalker site had run screenshots of that page. So I put on my Sonicwall Hazmat suit and took a look for myself. Ya know what? They claim CJ uses code that skews for Obama. LOL LOL. They just
couldwould not grasp that this board would be in favor of re election.
Don't they have any other better things to... oh, never mind.
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JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:17:41pm |
Wow, Obama's been trading heavily on Intrade today. Yesterday, he had about 500k more shares traded than Romney, now it's over 700k more.
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wrenchwench Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:17:55pm |
re: #148 CuriousLurker
You're staying tonight, not leaving early this time, right?
Yes, I'll stay later than usual, but I told the kitties and Mr. w that I'd come home when it was obvious who won in the presidential race. That might be the usual time, though....
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Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:18:33pm |
There was nowhere to put my "I Voted" sticker.— Invisible Obama (@InvisibleObama) November 6, 2012
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EPR-radar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:18:56pm |
re: #22 Charles Johnson
I opened registration, so keep your eyes peeled for bridge-dwellers.
Hi All, Long time reader, finally caught a registration window.
I used to be a Republican-leaning independent (first started paying attention to politics in the mid-70s, and Reagan vs. Carter left an impression). Now I simply vote against the Republicans at every available opportunity, and will do so as long as their collective insanity lasts.
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Schadenfreude 'r' Us Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:19:16pm |
re: #135 ozbloke
Pass me a tissue.
I've been here five years and no one asks me!Pencil and paper.
Ever since the scandal about hacked new-fangled electronic voting machines, we've been using pen and paper. I don't know whether that's one step ahead of you or one behind.
(I was filling out a ballot today, and some jerk bumped into me and sent my penpoint bouncing across it. Had to throw the ballot out and get another -- can't erase pen!)
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Ben Jephazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:19:18pm |
re: #106 Ayeless in Ghazi
Just about to open the beer here (courtesy messrs Stella and Artois).
I've got a sixer of 21st Amendment Hell or High Watermelon for tonight. Seemed appropriate (although, as it is only just past 3pm here, I'm going to hold off until after I get back from the gym).
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Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:19:51pm |
re: #166 JamesWI
Wow, Obama's been trading heavily on Intrade today. Yesterday, he had about 500k more shares traded than Romney, now it's over 700k more.
He's up almost three points from this morning. Nice.
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:20:09pm |
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Usually refered to as anyways Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:20:18pm |
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freetoken Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:20:43pm |
Meanwhile, out here in California, the real hot button on the entire ballot:
Gov. Jerry Brown battling sinking poll numbers in tax-hike campaign
Proposition 30 came into existence because Gov. Brown couldn't get a couple of Republicans in the Assembly to go along with him. Here in California we have now an amended constitution that makes it nearly impossible for the Assembly to come to any conclusion on taxes.
It's a failure of governance at the core. The primary reason the California Assembly exists on this planet is to raise and spend the revenue it takes to govern this state. If they can't do that primary task then maybe we should just get rid of the whole institution.
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erik_t Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:20:57pm |
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Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:21:11pm |
I'M STILL GONNA BE MEXICAN TOMORROW RT @barbarab1833: @mexicanmitt empieza a buscar tu otro nombre :)— Mexican Mitt Romneez (@MexicanMitt) November 6, 2012
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JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:21:11pm |
re: #173 Lidanghazi
He's up almost three points from this morning. Nice.
Right now he's down to only about 1 point higher. Romney supporters driving up their man's price before the results start coming out
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Kronocide Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:21:23pm |
It won’t be long before exit poll results start trickling out of the media, so here’s a first open thread of the evening to watch as America decides to enter 1000 years of darkness.
There there buddy.
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Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:21:44pm |
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erik_t Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:21:55pm |
re: #181 Ghazicide
It won’t be long before exit poll results start trickling out of the media, so here’s a first open thread of the evening to watch as America decides to enter 1000 years of darkness.
We'll be okay. I brought a flashlight.
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:22:04pm |
re: #176 freetoken
Because of that idiotic Constitutional Amendment to the California Constitution before I was born, I think they need to just start from scratch.
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Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:22:06pm |
re: #162 Killgore Trout
Are they doing holograms this year again too?
Does a bear shit in the woods? Is Wolf Blitzer a waste of broadcast spectrum?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:22:07pm |
re: #169 EPR-radar
Hi All, Long time reader, finally caught a registration window.
I used to be a Republican-leaning independent (first started paying attention to politics in the mid-70s, and Reagan vs. Carter left an impression). Now I simply vote against the Republicans at every available opportunity, and will do so as long as their collective insanity lasts.
Used to nearly always vote Republican. Until Feb 16, of this year.
NEVER AGAIN.
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CuriousLurker Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:22:15pm |
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:22:28pm |
Mitt Romney's concession speech to be given from his jet as he flies to the Caymans to be with his money. #p2— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) November 6, 2012
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freetoken Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:22:44pm |
re: #180 JamesWI
Currently Obama is down a penny:
[Link: www.intrade.com...]
Whoops, now down 2 pennies...
HE'S CRASHING!!!!!!!!!!!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:22:44pm |
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Usually refered to as anyways Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:23:01pm |
re: #170 Someone Please Benghazi Me Up!
Ever since the scandal about hacked new-fangled electronic voting machines, we've been using pen and paper. I don't know whether that's one step ahead of you or one behind.
(I was filling out a ballot today, and some jerk bumped into me and send my penpoint bouncing across it. Had to throw the ballot out and get another -- can't erase pen!)
We make too many mistakes for pens.
When we grow up we might get pens the leaders said.
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Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:23:18pm |
I'll go out a limb, too.Romney might take West Virginia.RT @freddoso: I'm starting to think Romney might win Kentucky.— John Cole (@Johngcole) November 6, 2012
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Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:23:21pm |
re: #192 Gretchen G.Tiger
that looks more like a panther than the plush.
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:23:44pm |
RT @forecasterenten: In early Indiana returns, Mourdock is running 10 pts behind Romney's % of the vote. Not good for him.
— Andrew Kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) November 6, 2012
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Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:23:49pm |
UP NEXT: Polls close at 7 ET in Vermont, Florida, Virginia, New Hampshire, Georgia, South Carolina wapo.st/TJ4RTL— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) November 6, 2012
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Ming Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:23:59pm |
I voted for Barack Obama this afternoon. As it happens, I vote in Maricopa County, Arizona, which would generally be considered "conservative", and which I assume will collect more votes for Romney than for Obama.
What impressed me from the experience is how well I was treated, how polite and friendly everyone was, and how comfortable I felt. I happen to really, really like the people of this fine county. Maricopa County is NOT the Deep South. The "conservative" feeling here, I'm convinced, comes from a "Western live and let live" attitude, which I have always shared, and is no doubt part of the reason I was a registered Libertarian for a few years, then a registered Republican for 25 years, and now an Independent. I have never been a registered Democrat.
My point is that I'm horrified by the very notion that in other counties (looking at you, Florida and Ohio) there is controversy about people's ability to vote. My admiration for the fine people of Maricopa County is absolutely connected to my complete confidence that voter disenfranchisement would never happen here. What a great COMPLIMENT to Maricopa County, a place I will always love. And what a great INSULT to any county, say in Florida and Ohio or wherever, that in any way impedes anyone's right to vote. What a spectacular way for a jurisdiction to insult itself.
Assuming America rejects right-wing extremism today, current Republican efforts to disenfranchise voters, which strike at the heart of our democracy, may go down in history as an appropriate "final act" in the current chapter of wingnuttery.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:24:13pm |
re: #182 Varek Raith
Yes.
Heh. It looks like they planing on getting out of the news business soon anyways. They've been signing contracts with celebrities for travel shows and stuff. Anthony Bourdain signed with them a while back.
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Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:24:15pm |
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Ben Jephazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:24:17pm |
re: #191 freetoken
I wonder, how many of those trades is from Mitt Romney's account to prop up his numbers?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:24:41pm |
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Ben G. Hazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:24:45pm |
re: #154 Daniel Ballard
Good point. I owe you a pack of Fosters.
Might want to reconsider that; FWIH, a lot of Aussies don't drink Foster's, it's primarily an export brand. Hell, what Foster's you see here in the States was brewed in a Miller brewery.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:24:52pm |
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erik_t Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:25:07pm |
re: #198 Ming
My point is that I'm horrified by the very notion that in other counties (looking at you, Florida and Ohio) there is controversy about people's ability to vote. My admiration for the fine people of Maricopa County is absolutely connected to my complete confidence that voter disenfranchisement would never happen here.
Um. So, about that whole mailing-the-wrong-date-to-Hispanics thing?
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Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:25:14pm |
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:25:16pm |
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:25:32pm |
re: #186 Sophghazi, Gingham Style (AKA Bronco Bama)
Does a bear shit in the woods? Is Wolf Blitzer a waste of broadcast spectrum?
I'm not sure if you're old enough to remember his coverage of the first gulf war. It was riveting stuff for the era. He was a big deal.
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lawhawk Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:25:35pm |
re: #120 Gretchen G.Tiger
Well, the latest SNAFU? Something apparently happened to a repaired power line, and it now has fallen down and is blocking traffic on the NJ Turnpike so that traffic is backed up on both the East and West spurs heading to the GWB. This is at the 80/95 split, so it's FUBAR. GRRR
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:25:43pm |
How many electoral votes do CA, OR, and WA have combined again?
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freetoken Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:26:03pm |
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wrenchwench Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:26:08pm |
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Usually refered to as anyways Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:26:29pm |
re: #178 erik_t
I wish we could try that with Bud.
Aussies can eat or drink just about anything.
We don't drink Fosters, but when I was in the states earlier this year I drank me some bud, the second six pack tasted fine.
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Shiplord Kirel Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:26:52pm |
I happened to catch a few minutes of the Hannity show on my car radio just now. He and some GOP type from Ohio were howling like angry baboons over what they said was bias in the Ohio exit polls. They will soon gang up and start flinging feces over alleged Dem fraud.
Looks like they are expecting the worst.
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lawhawk Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:27:00pm |
re: #126 Obdicut
I think you're right, and while they've brought in more buses, NJT and PANYNJ can't get their acts in gear - and both are headed by political appointees. The agencies simply are out of their league here, and it's showing badly.
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Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:27:04pm |
re: #212 ProGunLiberal
How many electoral votes do CA, OR, and WA have combined again?
CA-- 55
OR-- 7
WA-- 12
74 votes total.
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Ben Jephazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:27:25pm |
re: #212 ProGunLiberal
How many electoral votes do CA, OR, and WA have combined again?
74. Also [Link: electoral-vote.com...] has them on labeled on the map.
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CuriousLurker Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:27:34pm |
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:27:40pm |
RT @sarahh_cbsnj: Romney says he's "only written one speech at this point"...says it's "a victory speech. It’s about 1,118 words."
— CBS News (@CBSNews) November 6, 2012
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:28:02pm |
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Ben G. Hazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:28:07pm |
re: #215 ozbloke
Aussies can eat or drink just about anything.
We don't drink Fosters, but when I was in the states earlier this year I drank me some bud, the second six pack tasted fine.
That's because the first six-pack deadened all of your tastebuds.
Bud is piss beer.
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:28:08pm |
re: #219 Lidanghazi
Okay, so if we get to 7ish my time, and Obama has 196, it is over.
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erik_t Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:28:30pm |
re: #223 Ben Jhazi
Romney says he's "only written ... a victory speech. It’s about 1,118 words."
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freetoken Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:29:14pm |
CNN drooling over the idea that their reality TV show might have more episodes than originally scheduled:
When will we know results of presidential race?
It's been a grueling campaign. You just want to sit down with a bowl of popcorn and find out who will be president for the next four years.
So when will we know?
Technically speaking -- who the heck can say?
With a race that went into Election Day neck and neck, and plenty of questions about how key battleground states will play out, it's reasonable to assume a long night is in store.
It could be even longer if the election ends up balanced on the edge of a razor-thin vote in Ohio or if voting irregularities spark legal challenges in any of a number of critical states.
[...]
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:29:21pm |
Half an hour to go before Virginia gets called for Obama (or too close to call, which is more likely.)
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:29:29pm |
whoa
Correcting last tweet, Hispanics made up 7.4% of electorate in 2008: bit.ly/WwY9Us -- Exits have them at 10% in 2012
— Sam Stein (@samsteinhp) November 6, 2012
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:29:45pm |
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Amory Blaine Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:30:02pm |
re: #215 ozbloke
Aussies can eat or drink just about anything.
We don't drink Fosters, but when I was in the states earlier this year I drank me some bud, the second six pack tasted fine.
I don't usually drink commercial american beers, but I find the rice sugar from Bud leaves a cleaner finish than the corn sugar of say Miller.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:30:07pm |
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CuriousLurker Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:30:21pm |
re: #212 ProGunLiberal
How many electoral votes do CA, OR, and WA have combined again?
A few links:
The Fix’s Election Night Viewer’s Guide
Once the returns start coming in:
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freetoken Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:30:25pm |
Half an hour before polls start closing, and the newswires are going crazy. The flow over the transom has become a tidal wave.
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:30:36pm |
Fuck it...3:30 and I just poured my first Manhattan.
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wrenchwench Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:31:30pm |
re: #236 darthstar
Fuck it...3:30 and I just poured my first Manhattan.
It's Manhattan time in Manhattan. That should be good enough.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:31:32pm |
re: #228 freetoken
It depends on how close it is. If one candidate gets the obvious popular and electoral vote we could learn by late tonite. If it is a case where one gets the popular and the other gets the electoral by a narrow margin --well then it is up to the lawyers . . .
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Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:31:44pm |
re: #223 Ben Jhazi
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That's because his concession speech will be nothing but a primal scream, sustained for approximately thirty minutes.
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carey94tt Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:31:46pm |
Best election tracker?
[Link: www.google.com...]
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Big Joe Ghazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:31:51pm |
re: #236 darthstar
Fuck it...3:30 and I just poured my first Manhattan.
Rum and coke and a bowl of kush, my chores are done.
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Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:31:55pm |
re: #175 ozbloke
re: #154 Daniel Ballard
Cheers yeah thanks, Fosters is our cruel joke on the world.
We export it, we don't drink it!
Well if we ever get to the same bar, drinks are on me. Too bad I can't just ship you some Sierra Nevada.
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:32:04pm |
re: #223 Ben Jhazi
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That's probably because the concession speech will be simpler to compose:
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OhNoZombies! Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:32:20pm |
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Big Joe Ghazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:32:46pm |
re: #242 Daniel Ballard
Well if we ever get to the same bar, drinks are on me. Too bad I can't just ship you some Sierra Nevada.
Best beer on Earth!
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Ben Jephazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:32:55pm |
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:33:03pm |
re: #236 darthstar
Fuck it...3:30 and I just poured my first Manhattan.
It's 71 degrees on the coast today, and there are 5-6 foot waves at Princeton Jetty across the street from my house. I was going to go surf for an hour until the polls closed, but I really feel like I owe it to myself to sit on the couch and drink as I watch the results in HD.
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Amory Blaine Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:33:21pm |
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:33:45pm |
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:34:10pm |
I was sooo tempted to fill in the oval for Virgil B Goode for shits and giggles, but my sanity got the better of me.
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Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:34:27pm |
re: #226 ProGunLiberal
Okay, so if we get to 7ish my time, and Obama has 196, it is over.
I won't take anything for granted until they tell me he has over 270. Too much is at stake to get over-confident, despite the fact that I'm optimistic about tonight.
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Usually refered to as anyways Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:34:27pm |
re: #242 Daniel Ballard
Well if we ever get to the same bar, drinks are on me. Too bad I can't just ship you some Sierra Nevada.
Thanks, I'd like that.
And thanks for all the photographs over the years.
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JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:34:40pm |
Latino vote in Florida up to 16% up from 14% in 2008.....AP and Gallup are in serious POll trouble (they gambled Latinos wouldn't show)
— Jeff Gauvin (@JeffersonObama) November 6, 2012
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:34:45pm |
There are 24,491 precincts in California. Take a shot every time one of them reports its results.
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Apeman Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:35:17pm |
Hello all,
I've been lurking for quite some time and jumped at the chance to finally register. I just have to say that the discourse here keep me sane. When you live in Oklahoma, you find yourself quite blue in a sea of red. I'm not sure I'll have anything to add to the discussions here, but I started feeling a little creepy just watching from afar. As a peace offering and critique of Mr. Romney, I offer the following:
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:35:17pm |
Texas Supreme Court lifts suspension of judge seen in video beating teenage daughter: apne.ws/YUpUDL -CJ
— The Associated Press (@AP) November 6, 2012
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:35:48pm |
Steve Schmidt finally said why he didn't let Sarah Palin speak at the 2008 election night rally. "Didn't want to take a chance on debasing the moment."
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erik_t Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:35:58pm |
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gwangung Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:36:22pm |
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:36:28pm |
The Trolls are on edge and no amount of Marshal Tucker Band is gonna talk 'em down.— Lizz Winstead (@lizzwinstead) November 6, 2012
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plansbandc Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:37:09pm |
re: #59 Lidanghazi
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It's always nice to be able to give the President an upvote.
Thank you lizards for helping my sanity over the last few months of this election cycle. It's a pleasure to be here.
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Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:37:09pm |
OMG. "Cash Bar and No Concession Speech" is a lethal cocktail Mitt. #BadPlansGetWorse— Lizz Winstead (@lizzwinstead) November 6, 2012
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wrenchwench Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:37:33pm |
re: #256 grey rabbit
Hello all,
I've been lurking for quite some time and jumped at the chance to finally register. I just have to say that the discourse here keep me sane. When you live in Oklahoma, you find yourself quite blue in a sea of red. I'm not sure I'll have anything to add to the discussions here, but I started feeling a little creepy just watching from afar. As a peace offering and critique of Mr. Romney, I offer the following:
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You're my favorite hatchling. Welcome. I love the Kinks.
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SteveMcG Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:37:52pm |
re: 258 darthstar
I'm surprised she let him have his way.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:38:06pm |
Must feed and otherwise tend to the animals in my home. Then I will have to find a way to distract myself until serious results are in. I'm have a Panic Attack if I watch the results minute-by-minute.
bbl
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:38:53pm |
No, @sarahpalinusa, solar and wind generated electricity will not skew the "Electrical" College— Gen JC Christian (@JC_Christian) November 6, 2012
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:39:26pm |
Romney: "I'm proud of the campaign." "We put it all on the field." Not really winning words.
— socratic (@socratic) November 6, 2012
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JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:39:52pm |
CNN exit poll in Florida apparently showing minority vote is up, white vote is down.
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:40:26pm |
re: #270 JamesWI
CNN exit poll in Florida apparently showing minority vote is up, white vote is down.
That's great news for John McCain!
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Four More Beers Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:40:30pm |
re: #269 Ben Jhazi
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Just what the world needs. More lame sports cliche's in politics.
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blueraven Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:40:33pm |
Remember: 1) early unmodulated exit polls are garbage; 2) early VA returns will be heavily GOP, with blue counties reporting later at night.— tedfrank (@tedfrank) November 6, 2012
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:40:41pm |
re: #270 JamesWI
CNN exit poll in Florida apparently showing minority vote is up, white vote is down.
Voter Fraud!!!
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:40:44pm |
re: #270 JamesWI
Comments like this let me know that the rapids have begun, it's time for rollercoaster of chasing down the latest media reports until a consensus begins to emerge.
I think I'm going to watch A Bit of Fry and Laurie, though.
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lawhawk Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:40:51pm |
re: #210 lawhawk
[Link: abclocal.go.com...]
A 2 mile section of the New Jersey Turnpike is shutdown in both directions in Leonia due to emergency work on sagging power lines.
PSE&G discovered a cracked utility pole that was causing power lines over the Turnpike to sag. It's expected to take 2 hours to repair.
Right now, you can't get on the city-bound George Washington Bridge from New Jersey.
Northbound traffic on the New Jersey Turnpike is being detoured to Route 80 west.
Eastbound traffic on Route 80 headed to the GWB is being detoured to the southbound New Jersey Turnpike.
New Jersey bound traffic coming off the bridge is being detoured to Routes 46, 1&9 and 4.
The Turnpike Authority advises drivers to use alternate routes because traffic is going to be awful.
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Schadenfreude 'r' Us Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:41:17pm |
re: #266 Gretchen G.Tiger
Must feed and otherwise tend to the animals in my home. Then I will have to find a way to distract myself until serious results are in. I'm have a Panic Attack if I watch the results minute-by-minute.
bbl
Try a good first-person shooter?
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Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:41:18pm |
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CuriousLurker Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:41:32pm |
re: #270 JamesWI
CNN exit poll in Florida apparently showing minority vote is up, white vote is down.
ZOMG, the dreaded "browning" of America. We're doomed! Looks in mirror, oh wait...
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OhNoZombies! Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:42:00pm |
re: #250 Targetpractice
One of us! One of us!
That game....
My 8 year old struck up a conversation with the Direct TV guy the other day about Minecraft. This 30 something guy was just shootin the shit with him like they were old buddies.
My husband was looking at him like, ''You really need to take your ass back up on the roof, because your getting a little too comfortable talking to my son."
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:42:02pm |
re: #276 lawhawk
Jesus. Christie should ask Obama to pull his bacon out of the fire. I think Obama is feeling pretty grateful to him and ready to help the people of New Jersey, especially with a 'government ain't working' problem.
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Four More Beers Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:42:07pm |
re: #262 plansbandc
It's always nice to be able to give the President an upvote.
Thank you lizards for helping my sanity over the last few months of this election cycle. It's a pleasure to be here.
You're welcome. We're a fun bunch.
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jaunte Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:42:09pm |
re: #269 Ben Jhazi
Romney: "I'm proud of the campaign." "We put it all on the field."
The tax returns stayed in the locker room.
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Apeman Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:42:09pm |
re: #264 wrenchghaziwenchghazi
The Kinks are quite possibly the most under-appreciate band of their era. I never understood why folks just stop at Lola and don't venture further. I should have taken "Apeman" as my username. (>.
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:42:22pm |
re: #270 JamesWI
CNN exit poll in Florida apparently showing minority vote is up, white vote is down.
From TPM
CNN is reporting on air that in the swing state of Florida, preliminary exit polls show that white voters make up 67 percent of the electorate in the Sunshine State, down from 71 percent in 2008, and Latino voters make up 16 percent, up from 14 percent in 2008.
That's a significant change in a close state.
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Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:44:01pm |
re: #253 ozbloke
Thanks, I'd like that.
And thanks for all the photographs over the years.
You are welcome. I love this place, a little island of sanity on the 'net. Australia is on my bucket list. I want to fly to Australia at the end of our summer, and then enjoy yours. A year of my life without winter.
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Cheechako Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:44:12pm |
re: #145 Daniel Ballard
Heh. I did this LGF poll. Eighty plus percent for Obama. Just 1 single undecided. Someone tipped me that the stalker site had run screenshots of that page. So I put on my Sonicwall Hazmat suit and took a look for myself. Ya know what? They claim CJ uses code that skews for Obama. LOL LOL. They just
couldwould not grasp that this board would be in favor of re election.
I'll fess up to being the one undecided. In my 13th Presidential election I left the Republican Party for President Obama. That's after voting for the Republican candidate in the previous 12 Presidential elections.
And I feel good!!
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lawhawk Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:44:20pm |
re: #281 Obdicut
That's on PSEG to fix. Glad they found the problem, but they're supposed to be more proactive than this. And PSEG problems have bedeviled NJTransit too, because without power, the trains can't run on grade crossings w/o signals or crossing gates.
PSEG needs to be held accountable along with the other utilities. It was the same in NYC where ConEd power problems left the MTA waiting for power to be restored before subway service could resume.
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Tigger2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:44:54pm |
re: #59 Lidanghazi
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I love this first reply Obama got.
I'm British so obviously can't vote. Although if Romney wins rest assured we'll send redcoats.
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:46:55pm |
re: #288 lawhawk
The nice thing about public utilities is you can do the accountability thing. As long as there's the political will, that is.
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:47:00pm |
Stop watching election coverage if you want to avoid spoilers for season two of The Newsroom...
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BongCrodny Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:47:00pm |
re: #284 grey rabbit
The Kinks are quite possibly the most under-appreciate band of their era. I never understood why folks just stop at Lola and don't venture further. I should have taken "Apeman" as my username. (>.
"Young Conservatives" would have offered a nice dose of irony. :-)
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:47:08pm |
CNN reporter Hamby says he got internal polls from Romney friend showing Obama with 5% lead in Ohio yesterday.— Greg Mitchell (@GregMitch) November 6, 2012
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celticdragon Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:47:10pm |
re: #72 Kragarghazi
THEY'RE COMING OUT OF THE WALLS!!!
They're cut off! Do something!!
Grabs controls to APC...
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:47:45pm |
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wrenchwench Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:48:04pm |
re: #284 grey rabbit
The Kinks are quite possibly the most under-appreciate band of their era. I never understood why folks just stop at Lola and don't venture further. I should have taken "Apeman" as my username. (>.
Yes. Better than the Beatles, better than the Stones, and good for longer than either of those. Ray Davies is still good.
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JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:48:26pm |
I actually didn't vote in 2008. Combination of not being entirely convinced on Obama, though I did prefer him in the end, and convenience matters (was in school out of my home state, didn't have any utility bills or IDs with my address in that state, and it was a safe blue state). I actually was considering McCain....until he picked Palin.
Now I look back at myself and thank god that election didn't turn on my non-vote.
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Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:49:23pm |
OK. Staying home tonight doesn't seem like an option. I'm too wired.
I think I'm going to go home, drop my stuff off and unwind a bit, then cab it downtown to watch the election results. If POTUS pulls off a second term, there will hopefully be a lot of smiley, happy folks around.
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wrenchwench Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:49:56pm |
re: #59 Lidanghazi
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Speaking of revenge...
reddit is under heavy load right now
please try again in a few minutes.
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lawhawk Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:50:31pm |
re: #290 Obdicut
Except it usually doesn't work that way. The utilities continue doing their thing; politicians get to huff and puff, and nothing changes wrt accountability and responsibility.
BTW, just voted (without the Mrs. who's stuck in traffic and will likely not be able to cast a vote). It sucks because she had a perfect record on voting in every election she was eligible to do so...
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:50:34pm |
I hope we can use Puerto Rico as an object example for how little insignificant 3rd parties can screw things up.
Don't get me wrong, I like 3rd+ Parties. I want a pluri-party system to happen in the US. However, they have to be substantial parties with sensible goals and platforms, and be able to attract enough votes to truly dent the system.
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b_Snark Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:51:17pm |
Just took a 1.5 hr drive home after a frustrating day fighting Windows 7 on an HP. During the trip I came scary close to falling asleep three times. I have to figure out some way of getting more sleep.
[yawn]
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:51:38pm |
The suspense is killing him.
[Link: www.facebook.com...]
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CuriousLurker Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:52:22pm |
Gonna make more coffee, grab the laptop, and find a more comfortable spot for the long haul...bbiab
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:52:40pm |
re: #301 ProGunLiberal
I hope we can use Puerto Rico as an object example for how little insignificant 3rd parties can screw things up.
Don't get me wrong, I like 3rd+ Parties. I want a pluri-party system to happen in the US. However, they have to be substantial parties with sensible goals and platforms, and be able to attract enough votes to truly dent the system.
Multi-party system is one reason the Israeli government is so fucked up.
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Areopagitica Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:53:04pm |
re: #153 Gretchen G.Tiger
I'm not trying to offend folks who suffer from mental illness. I wholeheartedly agree that mental illness gets lumped into a negative stereotype. There are lots of people who suffer from all sorts of mental illness but are very bright and competent and loving individuals.
The judge, up for retention, started making racial rants to people in her courtroom, claimed to others that there was a vast conspiracy against her and she was charged with battery for striking a sheriff's deputy, and was suspended indefinitely. She holds a position of extreme public trust. I hope she gets the treatment she needs, but if she is unable to execute her duties as a judge, and she gets retained to be a judge and draws a rather large salary while continuing to be unable to perform her responsibilities, well, then...something isn't right there. No one outside the legal community here pays attention to judicial elections so its rather sad.
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Tigger2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:53:11pm |
re: #149 RadicalModerate
All right, CNN's exit poll questions are simply insipidly pointless.
CNN is simply insipidly pointless.
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:53:53pm |
re: #305 Alouenghazi
At the same time, the diversity of choice has made Scandinavia fantastic. Pluri-party systems can work.
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:53:55pm |
re: #300 lawhawk
Well that blows. I figured New Jersey's public power might not be quite as responsive as in other places. I see it's really old; that might be part of it. A lot of public power came about after massive abuses by private power, so people take a more active interest in it.
Sucks about your wife not voting. Did I read something about email voting being allowed? Is that only for special cases?
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:53:56pm |
re: #303 Ben Jhazi
The suspense is killing him.
[Link: www.facebook.com...]
Nate Silver's sitting in a hot tub with two red-heads drinking Cristal and waiting for a call from MSNBC to come down to the studio to gloat.
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:55:09pm |
re: #311 darthstar
Wasn't interested until the redheads. Can I switch places with him. :P
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Kaessa Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:55:09pm |
Off to feed the zoo, and make pizza for the men.
I'll be back later with a hot cup of tea and my box of tissues. Maybe even a fuzzy blanket.
Anyone need anything while I'm up?
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Ian G. Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:55:10pm |
Hi everyone!
I've been lurking a long time (or at least since Charles saw the light), and finally got the chance to register. Like many of you, I'm disgusted with the neo-confederate loons we call the GOP, but I've got a little twist to my background. I have my MBA, but rather than make me into a right-winger Galtian overlord, business school made me even more liberal than I was. You see, my first semester econ and finance course taught me that GOP fiscal and monetary policy is voodoo. I had never realized just how delusional they are when it comes to taxes, spending, the deficit, etc.
Anyway, I'm quietly confident in an Obama win, much they way I would be if my baseball team was up 2-0 in the world series (but I'm a Mets fan, so that's a pure fantasy scenario). I'm also very interested in the Indiana senate race, since there could not be a more perfect demonstration of the choice facing the GOP going forward: either nominate reasonable people like Dick Lugar and win, or nominate people who belong in straightjackets like Mourdock and (probably) lose.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:55:13pm |
re: #305 Alouenghazi
Multi-party system is one reason the Israeli government is so fucked up.
Any attempt at a functional third party will only end up harming whichever of our two currently existing parties it more closely resembles and thus helping the party it has the least in common with.
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Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:55:39pm |
Virginia.
Swing state.
Still sounds weird as hell.
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:55:43pm |
re: #311 darthstar
And the two redheads are Kari Byron and Christina Hendricks.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:56:13pm |
re: #297 JamesWI
I actually didn't vote in 2008. Combination of not being entirely convinced on Obama, though I did prefer him in the end, and convenience matters (was in school out of my home state, didn't have any utility bills or IDs with my address in that state, and it was a safe blue state). I actually was considering McCain....until he picked Palin.
Now I look back at myself and thank god that election didn't turn on my non-vote.
I was in the same situation. Obama was a bit of an unknown quantity to me so I don't regret my skepticism. What I do regret is buying in, at least partially, to a lot of the overblown BS, dishonest rumors, and wild character assessments his opponents made about him. It was a valuable lesson to look back on.
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:56:28pm |
re: #316 jamesfirecat
I'm thinking more like Scandinavia, Germany, the Netherlands, and the like. Not like the UK and Canada.
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:56:45pm |
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jamesfirecat Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:57:00pm |
Okay folks this is it... I may need some of you to be my safety line if worst comes to worst... I'm going to turn on my TV and try to figure out just what the hell is going on right now....
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:57:04pm |
re: #319 Killgore Trout
I was in the same situation. Obama was a bit of an unknown quantity to me so I don't regret my skepticism. What I do regret is buying in, at least partially, to a lot of the overblown BS, dishonest rumors, and wild character assessments his opponents made about him. It was a valuable lesson to look back on.
I see what you did there.
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b_Snark Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:57:48pm |
re: #314 Kaessa
Off to feed the zoo, and make pizza for the men.
I'll be back later with a hot cup of tea and my box of tissues. Maybe even a fuzzy blanket.
Anyone need anything while I'm up?
A beer, if there is any left.
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Ben Jephazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:57:56pm |
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lawhawk Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:58:02pm |
re: #310 Obdicut
I'm checking on the voting, but it seems you had to get a request in by fax or email by 5pm, and there were all kinds of issues with that - not to mention the constitutionality of trying to vote past tonight.
NJ was trying to get as many options available for displaced voters, but the counties and localities weren't set up to handle the email load.
My own voting experience? It took all of 5 minutes, and most of that was because the person ahead was kibbitzing with the election workers who they knew. No biggie. The deed was done.
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:58:07pm |
re: #323 jamesfirecat
Okay folks this is it... I may need some of you to be my safety line if worst comes to worst... I'm going to turn on my TV and try to figure out just what the hell is going on right now....
Dude, are you insane?! Don't do it! Resist the temptation! Cover your heart, Indy...wait, what was I saying?
//
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Kaessa Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:58:29pm |
re: #325 Bipartite Gnomenclature
Black Butte Porter or Steam Engine Lager?
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:58:52pm |
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Talking Point Detective Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:58:56pm |
re: #319 Killgore Trout
I was in the same situation. Obama was a bit of an unknown quantity to me so I don't regret my skepticism. What I do regret is buying in, at least partially, to a lot of the overblown BS, dishonest rumors, and wild character assessments his opponents made about him. It was a valuable lesson to look back on.
Who, with any credibility, was pushing that overblown BS, dishonest rumors, and wild character assessments?
I've seen these comments quite a few times now and still can't understand. Why would you have given those phenomena any credibility to start with?
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Kragar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:59:04pm |
Well, I'm all voted out, home now with the delightful smell of prime rib roasting in the oven.
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JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:59:38pm |
#election2012 count in Indiana.So this will tell us a lot about how the votes are coming in.Kentucky too.Went for McCain and now for R
— Dick Morris (@DickMorrisTweet) November 6, 2012
LOL.....Yep, Indiana and Kentucky will tell us so much about this race...
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Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:59:56pm |
re: #302 Bipartite Gnomenclature
Just took a 1.5 hr drive home after a frustrating day fighting Windows 7 on an HP. During the trip I came scary close to falling asleep three times. I have to figure out some way of getting more sleep.
[yawn]
Oh Dude don't do that!
I lost a good friend like that. Fell asleep and the car went into a creek upside down and unconscious in just a few feet of water. Rescue came much too late. Driving really tired is just as dangerous as drunk.
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Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:59:57pm |
re: #254 JamesWI
Latino vote in Florida up to 16% up from 14% in 2008.....AP and Gallup are in serious POll trouble (they gambled Latinos wouldn't show)
SCIENCE!
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andres Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:00:24pm |
re: #301 ProGunLiberal
I hope we can use Puerto Rico as an object example for how little insignificant 3rd parties can screw things up.
Don't get me wrong, I like 3rd+ Parties. I want a pluri-party system to happen in the US. However, they have to be substantial parties with sensible goals and platforms, and be able to attract enough votes to truly dent the system.
The results so far is... other-third parties didn't make a dent on the Governor race. And from the looks of it, none will be registered at the end of the night.
I love them too, and I would like to see them be more prominent, especially in the legislature. What I believe they need to do here is concentrate on the smaller races (mayors and legislative races) to "move up".
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:00:29pm |
re: #332 Kragarghazi
Well, I'm all voted out, home now with the delightful smell of prime rib roasting in the oven.
So, was the New Black Panther fellow at the door in good spirits? Did he only whack you a couple times with the billy club?
//
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HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:00:37pm |
re: #333 JamesWI
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LOL.....Yep, Indiana and Kentucky will tell us so much about this race...
As if he needed to show another reason why he's a hack. Really Indiana?
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Kragar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:00:51pm |
Beck: If Americans are 'So Dead Inside' That They Re-Elect Obama, Then 'We Have to be Destroyed'
If you look at history through a biblical world view, the last step before a nation is completely destroyed is they drive the righteous from among them. If this isn’t a sign of a group of people that will drive the righteous from among them, and that’s the last step before God’s wrath comes, I fear for our country and it is - it cannot be overstated, it cannot be called paranoid ... If you are a God‑fearing person, hear me. Last call, America. Last call. Because the righteous will be driven from among them.
They are nasty, divisive and, I'm sorry, but there is no way to describe that quote from Valerie Jarrett other than evil. Warning: Saul Alinsky is just the beginning of these people.
But I believe in the American people. I believe that we are not too far gone. I believe that people can watch and see the difference. They can feel the difference. When you watch Barack Obama, you can just see he is angry. When you watch Mitt Romney, you can see he is not. We are not an angry nation. We don’t listen to demagogues like that. It doesn’t work. No matter how much power he has amassed, no matter how many friends in the media he has, Americans know. And if they reject it this time, if they’re so dead inside - that’s a possibility - if they’re so dead inside that they can no longer see the difference between good and evil, we have to be destroyed because we will be a remarkable evil on this planet.
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Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:01:20pm |
BBL
Off to my socialist commie subway Red Line commute.
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andres Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:01:44pm |
re: #305 Alouenghazi
Multi-party system is one reason the Israeli government is so fucked up.
All systems are f***ked up. It's just a case of looking for one that f***ks up the least.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:01:50pm |
re: #334 Daniel Ballard
Oh Dude don't do that!
I lost a good friend like that. Fell asleep and the car went into a creek upside down and unconscious in just a few feet of water. Rescue came much too late. Driving really tired is just as dangerous as drunk.
My brother wrecked a car like that as well, though nobody got hurt thank god... he fell asleep at the wheel but luckily his friends in the car realized it and woke him up before he did anything worse than heavily side swipe a barrier...
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Joanne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:02:01pm |
RT @bluedupage: 5 Signs at Pa. Polling Place: "NO PARKING FOR DEMOCRATS"bit.ly/VAkpLQ#4jobs #2futures #youcut #p2 #tcot— Kitty Smalls (@FluffySays) November 6, 2012
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:02:04pm |
Oh god. Check the hashtag #mypresidentisstillblack. It's like a GOP nightmare in there.
#MyPresidentIsStillBlack— PLUTO CASH (@PLUTOCASH) November 2, 2012
Am I the only one that had Jeezy on their Myspace this time, 4 years ago?! Yeah, still relevant! #MyPresidentIsStillBlack #obama2012— Jessica(@bakey812) November 6, 2012
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:02:09pm |
re: #336 andres
Bingo. Hope the Justice Party realizes this.
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Tigger2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:02:14pm |
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Talking Point Detective Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:02:21pm |
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Kragar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:02:35pm |
re: #337 Targetpractice
So, was the New Black Panther fellow at the door in good spirits? Did he only whack you a couple times with the billy club?
//
Well, there was a black Navy guy there, but he was too busy trying to change his party registration from Republican to Democrat to bother me much.
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Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:02:46pm |
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:02:55pm |
re: #339 Kragarghazi
Beck: If Americans are 'So Dead Inside' That They Re-Elect Obama, Then 'We Have to be Destroyed'
Uhhh... well then.
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Ian G. Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:03:02pm |
re: #339 Kragarghazi
If you look at history through a biblical world view
Well, there's your first mistake right there, Glenn. I'd rather look at history through a David McCullough book.
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b_Snark Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:03:41pm |
re: #334 Daniel Ballard
Oh Dude don't do that!
I lost a good friend like that. Fell asleep and the car went into a creek upside down and unconscious in just a few feet of water. Rescue came much too late. Driving really tired is just as dangerous as drunk.
Sorry to hear about your friend.
I know, I know, but sometimes demands are such I have to drive. The only good thing is the traffic level on the highway is fairly high and there are few ponds right be the road.
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JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:03:41pm |
Right now Mourdock is only up 48-46 with 4% reporting.....and the eastern (earlier reporting) side of Indiana apparently is more Republican.
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:03:54pm |
The Romneys haven't been this nervous since Tagg tried a Frappuccino.— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) November 7, 2012
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:04:08pm |
Ah, don't the results start trickling in at 7?
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:04:14pm |
Do you think Pluto Cash either took his name from Greek mythology, from the planet, or from Mickey Mouse cartoons? None of those theories seem superior to each other.
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erik_t Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:04:38pm |
re: #352 Bipartite Gnomenclature
I know, I know, but sometimes demands are such I have to drive. The only good thing is the traffic level on the highway is fairly high and there are few ponds right be the road.
The rest of us demand that you don't put us in grave danger by sleepily piloting your two tons of steel.
XOXO,
me
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:04:52pm |
re: #356 Obdicut
Do you think Pluto Cash either took his name from Greek mythology, from the planet, or from Mickey Mouse cartoons? None of those theories seem superior to each other.
Pluto's not a planet. Accept it and move on.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:05:03pm |
re: #331 Talking Point Detective
Who, with any credibility, was pushing that overblown BS, dishonest rumors, and wild character assessments?
I've seen these comments quite a few times now and still can't understand. Why would you have given those phenomena any credibility to start with?
LGF in 2008 was a bit different. People I knew and had come to trust as reliable and thoughtful seemed to think a lot of the BS was serious. I took it more seriously than I should have. I was one of the few people here in 2008 who didn't vote for McCain. I don't recall if we had any open Obama supporters at the time.
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JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:05:26pm |
OK, @dickmorristweet, start showing us that you had this whole thing right.
— Neal Boortz (@Talkmaster) November 7, 2012
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:05:33pm |
re: #356 Obdicut
Pluto the dog was named after Pluto the Dwarf Planet.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:05:33pm |
re: #355 ProGunLiberal
Ah, don't the results start trickling in at 7?
Kentucky & Indiana=red
New Hampshire=blue
Surprised?
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SteveMcG Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:06:07pm |
I saw people busting CNN for using the floor for their electoral map, but is MSNBC really going to use a skating rink?
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Kragar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:06:13pm |
re: #351 Ian G.
Well, there's your first mistake right there, Glenn. I'd rather look at history through a David McCullough book.
I try to look at it through a Douglas Adams or Terry Pratchett book.
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:06:18pm |
re: #362 Alouenghazi
Bear Shits in Woods. News at 11.
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Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:06:21pm |
If anyone needs something to relax them, I'd suggest a libation of your choice and watching this a couple times:
Never fails to bring a smile to my face.
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RogueOne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:06:28pm |
re: #353 JamesWI
Right now Mourdock is only up 48-46 with 4% reporting.....and the eastern (earlier reporting) side of Indiana apparently is more Republican.
Actually the break up is more north and south than east/west. I'll be stunned if Mourdock holds on and wins. Donnelly is the luckiest politician in the country right now.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:06:30pm |
Have PBS on now. Still not a huge David Brooks fan but at least he's honest about Indiana's switch.
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:06:32pm |
If your magic rape theory is legitimately stupid, voters have a way of shutting your whole election down.
— Kaili Joy Gray (@KailiJoy) November 6, 2012
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Kragar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:07:00pm |
re: #356 Obdicut
Do you think Pluto Cash either took his name from Greek mythology, from the planet, or from Mickey Mouse cartoons? None of those theories seem superior to each other.
I think he took it from the Eddie Murphy movie.
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:07:35pm |
It's a good thing Romney won KY...he's going to need that lube before the night is over. #p2— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) November 7, 2012
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Ben Jephazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:08:20pm |
I'm going to go work out, and when I get back, there should be some results from VA and other places on the east coast.
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Talking Point Detective Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:08:26pm |
I'm parking myself here for the night.
I've been feeling a bit sick all day - concerned about having to watch the results if they are coming in looking bad. Here at least if things are going bad, I'll hear it from people who will be able to commiserate.
A few thoughts:
No matter how far Silver and Sam Wang might have Obama in the lead - I still can't bring myself to think that they're right even though I'm quite sure their methodology is sound.
I find it interesting that the positive feeling from an Obama victory will never be the equal magnitude as how much it will suck with a Romney victory. Not sure if that's more about my own psychology (i.e., not wanting to be a member of a club that would have me as a member) or about how Obama is more or less a centrist and Romney is an extremist.
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:09:11pm |
re: #371 Kragarghazi
I think he took it from the Eddie Murphy movie.
Oh god I withdraw my support of this man. I thought he was cool. Jesus.
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wrenchwench Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:09:23pm |
re: #373 Ben Jephazi
I'm going to go work out, and when I get back, there should be some results from VA and other places on the east coast.
How can you leave now?!? Somebody in New Hampshire just voted for Gary Johnson!!!
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JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:10:17pm |
Reminder to anyone on Twitter to follow the "Republican Tears" list. (Thanks to whoever shared that yesterday)
It should be a fun time.
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:10:21pm |
Parody account...retweeted 49,000+ times.
I'm predicting Obama will take an early lead tomorrow... Until all the Republicans get off work. #RomneyRyan2012— Tim Tebow (@TheTimmyTebow) November 5, 2012
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:10:25pm |
re: #374 Talking Point Detective
Their methodologies are both pretty good, though of course they differ. But neither of them have said it's a certainty. The chance is pretty freaking scary. Romney nominating supreme court judges.
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Ben Jephazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:11:01pm |
re: #376 wrenchghaziwenchghazi
How can you leave now?!? Somebody in New Hampshire just voted for Gary Johnson!!!
Oh NOES! I'll go crazy staring at the google election results page if I don't go blow off some steam with some weights. Really, why aren't the VA results already in? Haven't they been pre-counting them in time for the polls to close?///
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Cheechako Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:11:30pm |
Hey!!! No spoilers for those of us lucky enough to live in the Last Frontier. Polls don't close for 5 more hours!!!
Like Alaska is really going to make a difference.
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Talking Point Detective Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:11:34pm |
re: #373 Ben Jephazi
I'm going to go work out, and when I get back, there should be some results from VA and other places on the east coast.
Actually, that's a really good idea. Get some of my nervous energy out at the gym. Come back and check out the scene. If it's bad, I'll start drinking and pull out a book. If it's good, I'll start drinking and soak the goodness up.
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Ben Jephazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:12:23pm |
re: #382 Talking Point Detective
Actually, that's a really good idea. Get some of my nervous energy out at the gym. Come back and check out the scene. If it's bad, I'll start drinking and pull out a book. If it's good, I'll start drinking and the goodness up.
That's the plan over here.
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OhNoZombies! Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:12:57pm |
re: #339 Kragarghazi
Beck: If Americans are 'So Dead Inside' That They Re-Elect Obama, Then 'We Have to be Destroyed'
Whew. That was Beck.
I thought someone had been eavesdropping on my mother in law.
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erik_t Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:13:06pm |
re: #379 Obdicut
Their methodologies are both pretty good, though of course they differ. But neither of them have said it's a certainty. The chance is pretty freaking scary. Romney nominating supreme court judges.
As Silver has said, most of Romney's remaining chance comes from a dramatic and systemic failure in all of the likely voter models, and a failure in Romney's direct. If you have more confidence in all of those pollsters not failing towards Obama, that reduces the scariness commensurately.
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Kragar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:13:16pm |
re: #382 Talking Point Detective
Actually, that's a really good idea. Get some of my nervous energy out at the gym. Come back and check out the scene. If it's bad, I'll start drinking and pull out a book. If it's good, I'll start drinking and the goodness up.
Going to be watching season 6 of Psych while I wait for the news.
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Tigger2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:13:43pm |
I saw people busting CNN for using the floor for their electoral map, but is MSNBC really going to use a skating rink?
I bet our skating rink works better than their floor. lol
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JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:14:14pm |
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:14:32pm |
re: #386 Kragarghazi
Going to be watching season 6 of Psych while I wait for the news.
I've always thought of you as a Trapezius Milkington
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:14:33pm |
Google has already call something for Obama. Who?
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Kragar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:14:45pm |
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Kaessa Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:14:52pm |
Saved! Ordered pizza for delivery, now I don't have to cook. Hubby took pity on my poor sick *cough cough* self. *cough*
Hey, if I'm going to be sick, I'm going to milk it for all it's worth. Everyone else in the house does.
Is the Google election map turning colors too slowly for everyone else, too?
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:14:56pm |
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Ben Jephazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:15:32pm |
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:15:37pm |
Old man just got back from the polls here in VA Beach and he said the poll workers are telling him it might be til 9pm EST when they get the last of those who got into before the doors were closed voted and out.
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Talking Point Detective Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:15:37pm |
re: #379 Obdicut
Their methodologies are both pretty good, though of course they differ. But neither of them have said it's a certainty. The chance is pretty freaking scary. Romney nominating supreme court judges.
Actually, Wang has it above 99/% probability. Seems hard to believe - but his approach of using only swing state polls makes it a lock. I'm trying to use Silver as my "expect the worst" and use Silver's thinking that the only way that Romney wins is a systemic bias in basically all the polls - which he puts at under 10%.
But even that is too tough for me to really accept. I look at those small leads in the margin of error and I get nervous. Of course, the whole point is that when you aggregate the polls, the sample size expands and the margin of error shrinks proportionately.
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Kragar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:16:03pm |
re: #392 Kaessa
Saved! Ordered pizza for delivery, now I don't have to cook. Hubby took pity on my poor sick *cough cough* self. *cough*
Hey, if I'm going to be sick, I'm going to milk it for all it's worth. Everyone else in the house does.
Is the Google election map turning colors too slowly for everyone else, too?
Pizza Hut is running an election night deal.
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:16:16pm |
re: #393 Alouenghazi
Whatever it called, it has only 3 Electoral Votes. NH has 4.
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JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:16:42pm |
re: #400 ProGunLiberal
Whatever it called, it has only 3 Electoral Votes. NH has 4.
Vermont is the one that has been called for Obama.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:16:49pm |
re: #400 ProGunLiberal
Whatever it called, it has only 3 Electoral Votes. NH has 4.
Thats Vermont then.
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:17:15pm |
I'm finding that Politico's map is the one that's most up to date.
[Link: www.politico.com...]
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Big Joe Ghazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:17:16pm |
A little calming music for your soul before it gets busy in here.
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:17:25pm |
re: #396 Talking Point Detective
Oh, I hadn't checked Wang recently. (heh). Damn it, I just realized I'm going to hang out with a statistician later tonight and so of course he's going to dominate the conversation and that's cool and all but I kind of wanted just to make fun of the various GOP blowhards all night.
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:17:27pm |
Ohio starting to get a little jealous of all the attention Virginia's getting right now. #p2— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) November 7, 2012
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calochortus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:17:30pm |
I guess it's time to join everyone and start obsessing.
I see Red State has called Kentucky for Romney. I guess it's all over....
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Ben Jephazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:17:41pm |
Ok, going to turn into a pumpkin if I don't get gone. Later Lizards.
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Ben G. Hazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:18:09pm |
re: #334 Daniel Ballard
Oh Dude don't do that!
I lost a good friend like that. Fell asleep and the car went into a creek upside down and unconscious in just a few feet of water. Rescue came much too late. Driving really tired is just as dangerous as drunk.
re: #342 jamesfirecat
My brother wrecked a car like that as well, though nobody got hurt thank god... he fell asleep at the wheel but luckily his friends in the car realized it and woke him up before he did anything worse than heavily side swipe a barrier...
MythBusters did an episode on drunk vs. drowsy driving; the conclusion was that drowsy driving is more dangerous.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:18:28pm |
re: #403 Ben Jhazi
I'm finding that Politico's map is the one that's most up to date.
[Link: www.politico.com...]
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Tigger2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:18:41pm |
re: #407 calochortus
I guess it's time to join everyone and start obsessing.
I see Red State has called Kentucky for Romney. I guess it's all over....
Kentucky went red, I'm shocked.// I'm also shocked my backwoods state of Indiana went red. lol
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Kaessa Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:18:44pm |
re: #399 Kragarghazi
Pizza Hut is running an election night deal.
We only have Domino's here in our little bitty town. We just got one of those mini Pizza Huts, but they don't deliver yet.
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:18:53pm |
#RomneyConcessionSpeech fuck #YouPeople— Steve Kimura (@stevekimura) November 7, 2012
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Pawn of the Oppressor Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:18:53pm |
re: #339 Kragarghazi
Beck: If Americans are 'So Dead Inside' That They Re-Elect Obama, Then 'We Have to be Destroyed'
Earth, Hitler, 1938!
God, what a fcking sick piece of work he is. Hey Glenn, YOU FIRST BUDDY!!
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EPR-radar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:19:10pm |
re: #374 Talking Point Detective
...
I find it interesting that the positive feeling from an Obama victory will never be the equal magnitude as how much it will suck with a Romney victory. Not sure if that's more about my own psychology (i.e., not wanting to be a member of a club that would have me as a member) or about how Obama is more or less a centrist and Romney is an extremist.
When I changed from an independent to a partisan, this was driven much more by the insanity of the GOP than by the effectiveness (or even coherence) of the Democratic party platform. It is difficult for me to imagine voting for a D candidate with the same fervor that I'm voting against the R opposition. (Even if I personally were the D candidate...)
My pet theory is that this is not unusual, and that partisans (both D and R) are driven primarily by the perceived evil of the opposition.
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:19:24pm |
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Bubblehead II Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:19:37pm |
Afternoon Lizards. Well the Wife and I just go home from voting. In and out in under 10 min. My vote may not count much toward the E.C this being Idaho. but it is at least 1 more toward the popular vote. And yes, I am prepared to either celebrate an Obama victory or drown my sorrows in the event of Rmoney. Bought a 5th of Crown Royal
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thecommodore Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:19:50pm |
The NYT has a nice scenario tool which charts various paths to the White House. Assuming no major upsets (Obama winning Utah), there are 9 tossups, and Obama was 431 different paths to winning, Romney only 76.
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:20:12pm |
re: #414 darthstar
I'm seriously worried about Romney giving an inflammatory concession speech that promises resistance to Obama from the GOP.
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thecommodore Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:20:35pm |
re: #419 thecommodore
The NYT has a nice scenario tool which charts various paths to the White House. Assuming no major upsets (Obama winning Utah), there are 9 tossups, and Obama was 431 different paths to winning, Romney only 76.
And here is the aforementioned nice scenario tool
[Link: elections.nytimes.com...]
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White African American Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:20:49pm |
Greetings Lizards!
Long time lurker; first time poster.
As a kid in South Africa, I used to stay up through the night watching the American (and British) election results come in.
It's even more fun doing it in the U.SA.
One side-effect of this election that I'm looking forward is seeing data-driven analysts like Nate Silver, Sam Wang, and Drew Linzer crush the gut-driven bloviating of people like Dick Morris, Peggy Noonan, David Brooks, etc.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:21:06pm |
re: #417 Ben Jhazi
Look at the number of votes, though.
The night is young.
Polls might be closing in the Eastern time zone, but whoever was in line at closing time still gets to vote, so voting may continue for hours.
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Talking Point Detective Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:21:11pm |
re: #416 EPR-radar
It is difficult for me to imagine voting for a D candidate with the same fervor that I'm voting against the R opposition
Bingo.
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calochortus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:21:34pm |
re: #420 Obdicut
I'm seriously worried about Romney giving an inflammatory concession speech that promises resistance to Obama from the GOP.
You won't have Mitt Romney to kick around anymore?
We should be so lucky.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:21:38pm |
re: #420 Obdicut
I'm seriously worried about Romney giving an inflammatory concession speech that promises resistance to Obama from the GOP.
I would expect nothing less. Seriously I can't imagine him giving a gracious concession speech. I just can't. And even if he is gracious, the crowd won't be.
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Kragar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:21:50pm |
Latino activists: GOP risks slipping into ‘irrelevancy’
As the Latino electorate headed toward a record turnout, Presente.org executive director Arturo Carmona said President Barack Obama’s potentially record-breaking support among that group of voters should send a signal to Republicans.
“If Republicans continue to follow on the course that the right wing and Tea Party have set for them, they’re going to find, they’re going to follow on the course of California Republicans, which is a course of irrelevancy and self-destruction,” Carmona told The Raw Story Tuesday.
Last week, Carmona and Presente accused Republicans of voter suppression efforts for a series of misleading billboards in Pennsylvania targeting Latinos by falsely saying they needed to show identification to vote. Univision reported that Spanish-speaking voters in Colorado had similar complaints Monday.
Roll Call reported Tuesday that poll workers in a northern Virginia precinct refused to help Spanish-speaking voters with their ballots. And some voters in Los Angeles complained about “unpleasant interactions” with the purportedly non-partisan True The Vote group.
However, Carmona said, Obama and the Democratic party are not guaranteed a down-party victory, either, since more Latinos are registering as Independent voters, as shown by polling data.
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Majacita Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:22:00pm |
re: #416 EPR-radar
When I changed from an independent to a partisan, this was driven much more by the insanity of the GOP than by the effectiveness (or even coherence) of the Democratic party platform. It is difficult for me to imagine voting for a D candidate with the same fervor that I'm voting against the R opposition. (Even if I personally were the D candidate...)
I agree. I've been a Republican most of my life and I don't think I can be a Democrat, but I can't call myself a Republican either. I think that is why Independent is the fastest growing group.
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:22:03pm |
re: #420 Obdicut
I'm seriously worried about Romney giving an inflammatory concession speech that promises resistance to Obama from the GOP.
I'm not. First, his team is saying he hasn't written a concession speech - which in and of itself is probably the most arrogant thing to admit in a presidential election. Second, if he does, it will show the real Mitt Romney, and he, and the GOP, will be castigated to the point where Boehner will have to work with Democrats in order to save his ass in 2014.
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Apeman Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:22:04pm |
re: #296 wrenchghaziwenchghazi
Fixed the username. Now, The Beatles? Well, them's fightin' words!
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b_Snark Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:22:05pm |
I'm warming up my expressions of sympathy for the rwnjs.
1. I'm so sorry for your loss.
2. He went out doing something he loved.
3. He's in a much better place.
4. I'm sure he didn't feel any pain.
5. It was quick.
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:22:08pm |
re: #424 Alouenghazi
The night is young.
Polls might be closing in the Eastern time zone, but whoever was in line at closing time still gets to vote, so voting may continue for hours.
Yeah, but all I was saying was that Politico's was the most up to date. :P
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wrenchwench Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:22:15pm |
re: #423 White African American
Welcome, hatchling.
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erik_t Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:22:52pm |
re: #420 Obdicut
I'm seriously worried about Romney giving an inflammatory concession speech that promises resistance to Obama from the GOP.
He's too much of a goddamned coward. Fucker never showed an ounce of fight in his life.
Although it would be someone else doing the fighting. Hmmm.
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Talking Point Detective Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:22:58pm |
Ok - off to the gym. I sure hope this is a happy place when I get back.
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:22:58pm |
re: #432 Bipartite Gnomenclature
I'm warming up my expressions of sympathy for the rwnjs.
1. I'm so sorry for your loss.
2. He went out doing something he loved.
3. He's in a much better place.
4. I'm sure he didn't feel any pain.
5. It was quick.
6. Better him than me.
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SteveMcG Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:23:01pm |
re: 409
I think lost drivers are plenty dangerous too. They seem to make unexpected turns. They also seem to think that because they're lost they have some sort of special exemption from traffic laws.
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wrenchwench Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:23:15pm |
re: #428 Kragarghazi
Possibly related:
RT @gustavoarellano: This is fun: There is a #VoteWhite Hashtag On Twitter and it's Just As Sickening As You'd Expect #ocelections2012 ...— Lalo Alcaraz (@laloalcaraz) November 6, 2012
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recusancy Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:23:48pm |
re: #423 White African American
Greetings Lizards!
Long time lurker; first time poster.
As a kid in South Africa, I used to stay up through the night watching the American (and British) election results come in.
It's even more fun doing it in the U.SA.
One side-effect of this election that I'm looking forward is seeing data-driven analysts like Nate Silver, Sam Wang, and Drew Linzer crush the gut-driven bloviating of people like Dick Morris, Peggy Noonan, David Brooks, etc.
Are you a citizen able to vote yet?
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:23:53pm |
re: #420 Obdicut
I'm seriously worried about Romney giving an inflammatory concession speech that promises resistance to Obama from the GOP.
I pretty much expect he'll give a whiny, "I deserved to win" speech that will blame everybody but himself.
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JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:23:59pm |
LOL.....Malkin's got her Twitchy team combing through Twitter to find any Obama supporters threatening (seriously or joking) violence against Romney voters.
THEY are panicking: Death wishes/threats- ‘If you vote for Romney, I’ll kill you,’ we ‘will f*ck sh*t up’ if he wins==> is.gd/MLl9L0
— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) November 7, 2012
I guess she's not looking for all those tweets I've seen about "Getting that N***er out of our White House."
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Nervous Norvous Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:24:08pm |
Evening all..really hope Obama takes VA and Ohio..that would put that fucker Romney away early.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:24:32pm |
Speaking of Hitler, I think the bunker scene from Downfall would make good fodder for Republican reaction tomorrow if Mittens loses.
"Mein Fuehrer... Ohio has gone to Obama."
*shaking hand removes glasses*
"Everybody who reads 538, leave the room."
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erik_t Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:24:39pm |
re: #438 SteveMcG
I think lost drivers are plenty dangerous too. They seem to make unexpected turns. They also seem to think that because they're lost they have some sort of special exemption from traffic laws.
I may have once accidentally been across S-bahn tracks in Berlin in a car.
No, I was not driving.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:24:41pm |
re: #432 Bipartite Gnomenclature
I'm warming up my expressions of sympathy for the rwnjs.
1. I'm so sorry for your loss.
2. He went out doing something he loved.
3. He's in a much better place.
4. I'm sure he didn't feel any pain.
5. It was quick.
Romeny's gone away to a very special farm where he can oppress the poor people all he wants.
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Kragar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:24:52pm |
re: #432 Bipartite Gnomenclature
I'm warming up my expressions of sympathy for the rwnjs.
1. I'm so sorry for your loss.
2. He went out doing something he loved.
3. He's in a much better place.
4. I'm sure he didn't feel any pain.
5. It was quick.
7. DUMBASS!
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:25:04pm |
re: #416 EPR-radar
When I changed from an independent to a partisan, this was driven much more by the insanity of the GOP than by the effectiveness (or even coherence) of the Democratic party platform. It is difficult for me to imagine voting for a D candidate with the same fervor that I'm voting against the R opposition. (Even if I personally were the D candidate...)
It also depends who it is. I just read Tsongas's position papers from his presidential run, and my god, the level of detail, the lack of marketing language, the seriousness with which he approached it was amazing. We missed a wonderful president in that guy.
The only guy I've ever been really honestly excited about voting for in every way was Quintin Mecke , a candidate for mayor in San Francisco with no real hope to win, but just him being in the race and getting above five percent forced the mayor to address issues he'd rather have not. Mecke is one of them community organizer types.
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:25:04pm |
re: #444 Mr. Crankypants
Evening all..really hope Obama takes VA and Ohio..that would put that fucker Romney away early.
Don't forget FL. That's not out of reach.
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EPR-radar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:25:20pm |
re: #420 Obdicut
I'm seriously worried about Romney giving an inflammatory concession speech that promises resistance to Obama from the GOP.
We already have that from the House Republicans --- there was some recent noise from them that if Obama is re-elected, he shouldn't "poison the well" by letting the tax cuts expire and budget cuts occur. Enough projection for a dozen IMAX theaters.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:25:32pm |
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:25:38pm |
re: #444 Mr. Crankypants
Evening all..really hope Obama takes VA and Ohio..that would put that fucker Romney away early.
VA and FL - Fuck Ohio. We'll win that too, but get some strong numbers in Florida and this will be a party night of epic proportion.
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Kaessa Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:25:41pm |
Today was actually my first time voting as a registered Democrat. I've voted Democratic party before (Obama '08) but I was always registered as an Independent, and before that, Republican.
It felt weird to check the box on my voter registration, but I'm glad I did.
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Stanghazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:25:42pm |
Oh my Dog, I am finally home.
Had to stop for provisions.
Hola Lizards (& so glad to see you CL)
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:25:43pm |
re: #450 Ben Jhazi
Don't forget FL. That's not out of reach.
Especially not if initial exit polling numbers of Latino voters holds true.
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Major Tom Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:25:48pm |
George Allen must be damned charming in person to be doing as well as he is...
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wrenchwench Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:26:17pm |
re: #431 Apeman
Fixed the username. Now, The Beatles? Well, them's fightin' words!
If you put all of the Beatles works on one iPod and all of the Kinks works on another iPod, and I could only listen to one of them for ten days straight, I'd still want to hear the Kinks on the 11th day, but the Beatles would drive me crazy after 3 days.
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:26:18pm |
EXIT POLL: 100% of Romney voters do not think they were the 47% Romney said could go fuck themselves. #election #elctions2012 #vote2012
— Andy Borowitz (@BorowitzReport) November 7, 2012
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Nervous Norvous Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:26:18pm |
re: #448 Kragarghazi
7. DUMBASS!
I will simply try to be gracious in victory, even though I don't see them being doing the same either way.
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OhNoZombies! Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:26:19pm |
Ohio polls closing...
Here we go.
I need a beer.
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recusancy Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:26:36pm |
Anybody in VA?
Interesting text from Obama's VA campaign just now. twitter.com/RyanLizza/stat...— Ryan Lizza (@RyanLizza) November 7, 2012
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BongCrodny Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:26:53pm |
re: #388 JamesWI
[Embedded content]
ChrisChristie blasts know-nothing RomneyStaffers. I know I'll never vote for your RINO fat a**
If Chris Christie gets the GOP nomination in 2016 or 2020, those whiny little crybabies will scamper back to Christie as fast as their unevolved little legs can scamper.
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Tigger2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:27:07pm |
re: #454 Kaessa
Today was actually my first time voting as a registered Democrat. I've voted Democratic party before (Obama '08) but I was always registered as an Independent, and before that, Republican.
It felt weird to check the box on my voter registration, but I'm glad I did.
See it didn't hurt. lol
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funky chicken Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:27:21pm |
re: #449 Obdicut
It also depends who it is. I just read Tsongas's position papers from his presidential run, and my god, the level of detail, the lack of marketing language, the seriousness with which he approached it was amazing. We missed a wonderful president in that guy.
The only guy I've ever been really honestly excited about voting for in every way was Quintin Mecke , a candidate for mayor in San Francisco with no real hope to win, but just him being in the race and getting above five percent forced the mayor to address issues he'd rather have not. Mecke is one of them community organizer types.
Tsongas was my first political donation.
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SteveMcG Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:27:23pm |
re: 420
I don't think Mitt has the guts to make an inflammatory speech.
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White African American Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:27:34pm |
re: #441 recusancy
No, but my wife is American-born and she helps keep our state blue.
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:28:19pm |
re: #467 SteveMcG
re: 420
I don't think Mitt has the guts to make an inflammatory speech.
I'm not sure he'd want to permanently burn that bridge. May decide to settle for a Congressional seat or even make another presidential run.
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Nervous Norvous Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:28:22pm |
re: #467 SteveMcG
re: 420
I don't think Mitt has the guts to make an inflammatory speech.
I'm half expecting him to yield his time to Newt Gingrich.
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:28:52pm |
Florida: @barackobama 780,017; @mittromney 770,190 - 18% reporting #Election2012
— Weed Dude (@weeddude) November 7, 2012
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JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:29:03pm |
re: #464 BongGhazi
If Chris Christie gets the GOP nomination in 2016 or 2020, those whiny little crybabies will scamper back to Christie as fast as their unevolved little legs can scamper.
Exactly. The head Freeper continued to cry about how he was never going to vote for Romney no matter what......until about August, and then he became a fervent Romney backer.
No scruples, no backbone.
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Major Tom Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:29:30pm |
re: #470 Mr. Crankypants
that would be epic. Newt would oblige.
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Nervous Norvous Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:29:43pm |
re: #472 JamesWI
Exactly. The head Freeper continued to cry about how he was never going to vote for Romney no matter what......until about August, and then he became a fervent Romney backer.
No scruples, no backbone.
It's not about principle, it's about power.
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JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:29:44pm |
re: #467 SteveMcG
re: 420
I don't think Mitt has the guts to make an inflammatory speech.
He's had the guts to run his entire campaign on lies. I wouldn't put anything past him at this point.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:29:55pm |
re: #469 Targetpractice
I'm not sure he'd want to permanently burn that bridge. May decide to settle for a Congressional seat or even make another presidential run.
I think he's done at least in presidential politics.
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funky chicken Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:30:40pm |
re: #471 Ben Jhazi
that's surprising. my guess is the redneck precincts haven't been counted yet. off to study for several hours.
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Apeman Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:30:46pm |
re: #459 wrenchghaziwenchghazi
I've been in a Kinks "thrall" for the better part of two years. I have to agree with you here. :)
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Tigger2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:31:03pm |
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:31:25pm |
re: #471 Ben Jhazi
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Obama takes Florida, then it's all over but the crying. Willard would have to take Ohio and every other swing state on the board to win.
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Ben G. Hazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:31:45pm |
re: #452 jamesfirecat
Well double dumbass on you!
We need to break it up, lest we look like a cadet review...
/
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andres Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:32:13pm |
re: #477 HappyBenghazi
I think he's done at least in presidential politics.
Even if he personally would want to run again, I think he won't have another chance again.
But then, this is the Republican Party.
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JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:32:34pm |
Drudge goes back to race baiting. Guess he doesn't want to focus on the election:
Man Savagely Beaten By 8 Men On Baltimore Street In Middle Of Afternoon... drudge.tw/YFrvhF
— DRUDGE REPORT (@DRUDGE_REPORT) November 7, 2012
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:32:37pm |
re: #481 Targetpractice
Obama takes Florida, then it's all over but the crying. Willard would have to take Ohio and every other swing state on the board to win.
Your lips to Crom's ears...
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Pawn of the Oppressor Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:33:29pm |
A good Obama lead + Fox viewing would be hilarious. I'd love for them to open the phones and hot-line some weeping, screaming rube shouting "N-word" over and over again as his little racist world crumbles in despair.
Schaden-freakin-freude, baby... It's unbecoming, but it would feel goooood
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:34:18pm |
re: #486 Ben Jhazi
Your lips to Crom's ears...
Crom, I have never prayed to you before, I have no tongue for it...
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:35:40pm |
READ THE FINE PRINT RT @brklynboy11220: I voted for you @mexicanmitt. Now, I want my free taco.
— Mexican Mitt Romneez (@MexicanMitt) November 7, 2012
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Robert O. Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:36:01pm |
CNN Exit Polls shows for Ohio:
Men R+6
Women D+12
Split the difference, it looks like D+3, exactly what the average pollster were predicting. Let's keep our fingers crossed.
Doing the same math, Virginia might be R+1. That might change, as CNN (as I recall) change their Exit Polls to reflect the final results as more results come in (I call that cheating). Obama doesn't actually need Virginia to win, but it would be much more comforting to know he won there too.
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Nervous Norvous Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:36:24pm |
God I should just not watch TV right now...I'm nervous as hell, Nate Silver notwithstanding.
| 493 |
Kragar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:36:53pm |
This out pouring of love for Crom has brought a single manly tear to my eye
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:37:19pm |
Unskew! UNSKEW! RT @jmartpolitico The party id exits out of OH suggest the partisan breakdowns in polling were close to mark.
— Alex Burns (@aburnspolitico) November 7, 2012
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Joanne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:37:26pm |
re: #492 Mr. Crankypants
God I should just not watch TV right now...I'm nervous as hell, Nate Silver notwithstanding.
I know. I'm nervous as hell.
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Stanghazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:38:00pm |
What would you pay to have Nate Silver call you PERSONALLY to calm your ass down right now? #allthemonies
— rebkah howard (@pink_funk) November 7, 2012
| 497 |
dragonfire1981 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:38:25pm |
The Fox News site just isn't as interesting with the comments turned off.
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EPR-radar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:38:30pm |
re: #488 Pawn of the Oppressor
A good Obama lead + Fox viewing would be hilarious. I'd love for them to open the phones and hot-line some weeping, screaming rube shouting "N-word" over and over again as his little racist world crumbles in despair.
Schaden-freakin-freude, baby... It's unbecoming, but it would feel goooood
The real fun if there is a decisive defeat of the Republicans will be their upcoming civil war. The nutbaggers are losing seats in Congress, and that's bad for the business of running the country exclusively for the benefit of the ultra-wealthy (which is the real GOP platform).
| 499 |
Robert O. Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:38:39pm |
In the Indiana Senate race, Exit poll puts Donnelly ahead of Richard "rape is God's gift" Mourdock. Tim Kaine looks slightly ahead in exit polls in Virginia (despite the Presidency being R+1 for now as per above).
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:38:53pm |
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:39:21pm |
re: #496 Stanghazi
[Embedded content]
We might have to call him to talk Sully down from the roof later.
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celticdragon Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:39:47pm |
re: #497 dragonfire1981
The Fox News site just isn't as
interestingutterly batshit insane with the comments turned off.
| 503 |
OhNoZombies! Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:40:00pm |
Who is doing better coverage, MSNBC, or CNN?
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ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:40:11pm |
re: #499 Robert O.
Though, considering the description of Virginia voting, why would Exit POlls there matter?
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Nervous Norvous Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:40:18pm |
My fear is that a Romney win would show that being a blatant liar will be the new normal for Presidential campaigns since it proved to be so successful. re: #501 Targetpractice
We might have to call him to talk Sully down from the roof later.
I dunno..think he's already wetting himself?
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BongCrodny Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:41:03pm |
re: #479 Apeman
I've been in a Kinks "thrall" for the better part of two years. I have to agree with you here. :)
I could wear out a replay button solely from "A Rock & Roll Fantasy."
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calochortus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:41:18pm |
OMG!!!!! NBC has called South Carolina for Romney!!! We're dooooomed!!!
Oh, wait. It was already predicted to go Republican. And less than 1% of the vote had been counted.
Actually I have some sympathy for newscasters who have to fill a lot of airtime with very little actual information.
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recusancy Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:41:48pm |
Who has the best online election map right now? Most up to date numbers.
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Joanne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:41:52pm |
re: #501 Targetpractice
We might have to call him to talk Sully down from the roof later.
Hell, you may have to talk ME down!
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b_Snark Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:42:10pm |
I think we're seeing the results of the GOP's Red Queen campaign.
| 511 |
calochortus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:42:24pm |
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:42:27pm |
re: #507 calochortus
OMG!!!!! NBC has called South Carolina for Romney!!! We're dooooomed!!!
Oh, wait. It was already predicted to go Republican. And less than 1% of the vote had been counted.Actually I have some sympathy for newscasters who have to fill a lot of airtime with very little actual information.
"And another non-swing state closed its polls and we're calling it before 5% of the vote has even been counted. Now, on to our pundits, who will repeat the same drek they did 15 minutes ago."
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JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:42:28pm |
re: #503 OhNoBenghazi!
Who is doing better coverage, MSNBC, or CNN?
I've pledged to not turn the channel over to CNN at all tonight, so I'm sticking with MSNBC (at least until if/when the numbers start looking good, then flipping it over to Fox to watch Hannity cry)
| 514 |
RadicalModerate Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:42:33pm |
Obama up to a 63,000 vote lead in Florida, with 28% counted.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:42:51pm |
Evening Lizardim. I finally survived the crush of outbound traffic to hang out here with all y'all and check the election results every so often. How go things among the Lizardim?
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:43:01pm |
re: #509 Joanne
Hell, you may have to talk ME down!
It's all going to be okay. Trust us, it's fine. Now, step back from the ledge slowly...
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:43:26pm |
re: #508 recusancy
Who has the best online election map right now? Most up to date numbers.
Politico
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:44:33pm |
re: #515 Kragarghazi
EV Count
Romney 13
Obama 3Its all over folks.
WE'RE DOOMED!!! *Leaps out the window*
//
| 520 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:44:45pm |
And this commercial that's on... WOW. Basically, China in the future, claiming their dominance over the USA because they "own our debt". What. The. Heck.
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:44:50pm |
re: #503 OhNoBenghazi!
Who is doing better coverage, MSNBC, or CNN?
One has Todd, the other has Blitzer. Both are vomit-inducing. Once Obama has this election locked, I'm tuning into Fox to watch the 'splodey-heads.
| 522 |
JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:45:11pm |
re: #518 Ben Jhazi
Politico
Going back and forth between them, Politico and CNN seem to be about equal (though Politico is holding off on calling states, it seems)
| 523 |
Joanne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:45:27pm |
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marsl Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:45:28pm |
A request to your new President (no matter if he is Dem or Rep): send a couple of billions to Portugal. Being ruled by Frau Merkel is unbearable.
Or just do a Marshall Plan.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:45:33pm |
re: #521 darthstar
One has Todd, the other has Blitzer. Both are vomit-inducing. Once Obama has this election locked, I'm tuning into Fox to watch the 'splodey-heads.
They won't acknowledge it.
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OhNoZombies! Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:45:45pm |
re: #517 Targetpractice
It's all going to be okay. Trust us, it's fine. Now, step back from the ledge slowly...
No !!!
She's staying up here with me !!!
//
| 527 |
Nervous Norvous Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:46:16pm |
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Four More Beers Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:46:34pm |
re: #521 darthstar
One has Todd, the other has Blitzer. Both are vomit-inducing. Once Obama has this election locked, I'm tuning into Fox to watch the 'splodey-heads.
It will be a glorious thing to watch. I can't wait to hear Rush tomorrow.
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Ampersander Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:47:20pm |
Huffpo has O-3, R-33, but for about 1 minute I swear they gave South Carolina to Obama. That would have been interesting.
| 530 |
Joanne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:47:23pm |
| 531 |
JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:47:34pm |
Uh, Dick Morris might be becoming self-aware....
#election2012worried that Obama is 3 up in Florida with 28% counted.Romney cannot win without Florida
— Dick Morris (@DickMorrisTweet) November 7, 2012
If he truly believed Romney would win in a landslide with over 315 EVs (as he predicted).....he certainly could win without Florida. Looks like Morris doesn't believe in his own numbers.
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wrenchwench Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:48:29pm |
re: #524 marsl
A request to your new President (no matter if he is Dem or Rep): send a couple of billions to Portugal. Being ruled by Frau Merkel is unbearable.
Or just do a Marshall Plan.
Hi Marsl!
If it's Obama, I hear he's going to do a Martial Plan.
| 533 |
EPR-radar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:49:14pm |
re: #524 marsl
A request to your new President (no matter if he is Dem or Rep): send a couple of billions to Portugal. Being ruled by Frau Merkel is unbearable.
Or just do a Marshall Plan.
This is really depressing --- the entire European project seems likely to fail in very bad ways (e.g., WW III) because of this stupid austerity nonsense.
It almost makes US politics look sane.
| 534 |
Nervous Norvous Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:49:17pm |
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Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:49:20pm |
re: #531 JamesWI
Uh, Dick Morris might be becoming self-aware....
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If he truly believed Romney would win in a landslide with over 315 EVs (as he predicted).....he certainly could win without Florida. Looks like Morris doesn't believe in his own numbers.
You can hear him sweating through Twitter.
| 538 |
calochortus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:50:04pm |
re: #521 darthstar
One has Todd, the other has Blitzer. Both are vomit-inducing. Once Obama has this election locked, I'm tuning into Fox to watch the 'splodey-heads.
Almost sorry we gave up cable. I won't be able to watch Fox...
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SteveMcG Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:50:08pm |
I actually have more Kinks songs in my itunes library than Beatles and Led Zeppelin combined. I also have a surprising number of Jethro Tull songs. It's funny to take a look at what I put in my library and what I left out. An odd thing is that I completely forgot about Chicago. Not my favorite, but they did have some good stuff. FWIW I have a dozen Carpenters songs.
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:50:32pm |
Florida: @barackobama 1,322,771; @mittromney 1,301,531- 30% reporting #Election2012
— Weed Dude (@weeddude) November 7, 2012
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JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:51:03pm |
Some big Dem areas in Florida must have just reported. Went from about 20k lead for Obama to a 130k
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:51:44pm |
Florida: @barackobama 1,577,443; @mittromney 1,447,008- 35% reporting #Election2012
— Weed Dude (@weeddude) November 7, 2012
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darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:52:16pm |
Wow. RT @bencjacobs: White vote in Ohio is 79% according to the exits. In 2008, it was 83%.— Jamelle Bouie (@jbouie) November 7, 2012
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Kremer Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:52:29pm |
Charles needs to open a new thread. The new hamsters are getting pretty winded in this one.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:53:30pm |
Good luck to your candidates both local and national. The only politicians I will give credit to are the ones sincerely interested in reaching across the aisle. Otherwise, fuck em.
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Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:54:13pm |
RT @jimheath10tv: First count from Ohio: Obama 383,700 66%, Romney 190,383 33%. Per SOS
— Andrew Kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) November 7, 2012
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wrenchwench Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:54:18pm |
Media? RT @progressnownm: Chaparral still has hour+ lines and reports of misinformation being given from polls. #NM2012 twitter.com/ProgressNowNM/...— ClearlyNM (@ClearlyNM) November 7, 2012
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Stanghazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:54:57pm |
re: #549 _RememberTonyC
Have not seen you in forever. My greetings to Boston!
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Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:55:21pm |
re: #546 darthstar
Hm.. might it help to suck a dick? RT @ricksantorum Religious freedom is under attack. Obama must be stopped.— Sarah Silverman (@SarahKSilverman) November 7, 2012
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wrenchwench Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:55:33pm |
re: #551 Stanghazi
wrenchghazi is going to have a hell of a night tonight.
You're hereby deputized. I apologize to any hatchlings missed.
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recusancy Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:55:50pm |
There's way to much ajax on this site to be running much past 500 comments.
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KiTA Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:56:05pm |
Fox News exit polls has Ohio tied!
That's the best news I've heard all day -- as an Obama supporter.
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celticdragon Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:56:07pm |
I'm painting some Crimson Slaughter Chaos Marines. I'm voting a straight Khorne ticket. Maximum bloodshed all the way.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:57:13pm |
re: #531 JamesWI
Uh, Dick Morris might be becoming self-aware....
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If he truly believed Romney would win in a landslide with over 315 EVs (as he predicted).....he certainly could win without Florida. Looks like Morris doesn't believe in his own numbers.
Ahahahaha! Figures.
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Stanghazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:57:53pm |
re: #557 wrenchghaziwenchghazi
You're hereby deputized. I apologize to any hatchlings missed.
Thanks? If my hamsters can keep up.
I'm almost giving up on twitter, it's off the rails.
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Kragar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:57:56pm |
re: #560 celticdragon
I'm painting some Crimson Slaughter Chaos Marines. I'm voting a straight Khorne ticket. Maximum bloodshed all the way.
Take it to the next thread, but what base and color pallete?
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Robert O. Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:02:28pm |
Florida just closed. Exit polls:
Men R+5
Women D+7
Average across both genders, it says D+1. Obviously, I wouldn't give too much faith to this number. It is well within the 95% CI and could go either way. But Exit Polls now confirm pre-election polls were probably spot on.
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andres Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:03:45pm |
re: #531 JamesWI
Uh, Dick Morris might be becoming self-aware....
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If he truly believed Romney would win in a landslide with over 315 EVs (as he predicted).....he certainly could win without Florida. Looks like Morris doesn't believe in his own numbers.
Or he's bad in Math...
Maybe all three alternatives.
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Robert O. Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:05:06pm |
Slightly less interesting than Florida, in Pennsylvania, we have:
Men: R+4
Women: D+12
Overall: D+4.
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