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Wingnuts Who Predicted Doom for America Now Saying ‘We Can Survive 4 More Years of Obama’

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Taking a look around the wingnut blogosphere today, we find the partisan parrots all telling each other not to give in to despair, that America will — somehow — survive another four years of Barack Obama.

Strange, isn’t it, that only a few days ago the very same people were absolutely convinced that the re-election of Obama would lead to the total destruction of the US?

Meanwhile, Romney campaign advisers are turning to the next order of business — assigning blame.

“They ran a 20th century campaign in the 21st century,” said one Romney bundler, frustrated that the campaign made assumptions about the youth vote and voter intensity that didn’t pan out. “The anger is that they were entrusted to do certain things. It’s not like they were paid a $5,000 retainer to get a few dozen articles in an inside-the-Beltway paper. This is the major leagues.”

Another Republican outside the Romney campaign but privy to its thinking described the defeat as a complete pummeling, with Senate losses adding salt to the wound.

Romney supporters point to a series of brash statements made by advisers that seem out of touch with reality in retrospect. Inside the Beltway, Republicans trained their fire on senior Romney advisers like Ed Gillespie and political director Rich Beeson for appearances on last weekend’s Sunday shows. Gillespie said the electoral map was expanding, and Beeson predicted a 300 electoral vote win for Romney.

“There were a lot of Republicans who were on calls that the campaign was having led to believe we had shots in Pennsylvania and Minnesota,” one Republican operative supporting Romney said. “I think Republicans are split right now between confused and shocked, and also I think they are wondering did the Romney campaign have numbers we didn’t have.”

In starker terms, the source questioned: “Was last week a head fake, or were they just not that smart?”

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193 comments

1 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:18:38am

Can anyone explain why the campaigns (both Dems and GOP) believe that spamming people with robocalls has any value whatsoever? Don't they understand how much people hate these calls?

2 erik_t  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:18:47am

I don't think the youngins appreciate just how refreshing and fantastical it is for the Democratic national campaign to be the competent one.

3 Coracle  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:19:14am

When I played Risk ans a kid, and was losing, I'd stack more and more of my armies in smaller and smaller areas, until I had unbeatable hordes locked in Australia. At that point the rest of the world could in fact safely ignore me, even if I tried to invade Asia every few turns.

4 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:20:56am

I think their problem is their base is shrinking and their base is filled with declining demographics whites and old people and rural voters The other problem is there are many within their party who think they're not "conservative" enough. Of course, Romney himself wasn't a good candidate either but the mythological true conservative would have lost by even more.

5 Kragar  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:24:00am

Nope, they're doomed.

6 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:24:23am

This is what happens when you try to play the bandwagon effect in the digital age, you get people who call you on your shit day in and out. Nate Silver popped the bubble of "Romney momentum" and the GOP never recovered.

7 Gus  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:24:58am

Not unusual to once again find the GOP in denial. Instead of thinking in terms of policy they're thinking in terms of messaging. This is a continuation of the complete lack of respect the GOP has for the American public. Re-package antiquated ideas and the public will come to you. That's not how it works. The GOP simply lost because it was a rejection of their policy. Have they forgotten the far-right association that the Romney camp established? Embracing Ted Nugent and having a VP candidate who worked alongside Mr. Legitimate Rape?

8 Gus  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:26:06am

To the GOP I would say this.

It's the policy stupid.

9 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:28:13am

What is best in life?
To crush the wingnuts, see their SUVs driven to the junkyard, and to hear the lamentation of their radio.

10 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:28:22am

re: #8 Gus

To the GOP I would say this.

It's the policy stupid.

Yeah, but you know how it goes, "conservative cannot fail, it can only be failed." They're convinced that the problem is not the ideology, it's that the messengers were not committed enough to the cause. If they'd had a "true conservative" on the ballot, then America would see the worthiness of their cause and have voted for them in droves.

11 BongCrodny  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:28:44am
In starker terms, the source questioned: “Was last week a head fake, or were they just not that smart?”

(B).

12 Charles Johnson  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:30:25am

re: #7 Gus

Not unusual to once again find the GOP in denial. Instead of thinking in terms of policy they're thinking in terms of messaging. This is a continuation of the complete lack of respect the GOP has for the American public. Re-package antiquated ideas and the public will come to you. That's not how it works. The GOP simply lost because it was a rejection of their policy. Have they forgotten the far-right association that the Romney camp established? Embracing Ted Nugent and having a VP candidate who worked alongside Mr. Legitimate Rape?

Yeah, that's especially hilarious. If they had only found a better way to conceal their true beliefs, they might have won.

13 Lidane  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:30:35am

re: #2 erik_t

I don't think the youngins appreciate just how refreshing and fantastical it is for the Democratic national campaign to be the competent one.

Seriously. It's a nice change of pace to watch the Dems run circles around the GOP in terms of ground game and organization.

What's amazing is that the GOP didn't learn a goddamn thing from four years ago. Obama ran against the vaunted Clinton machine and won. Did they honestly think that he'd be a disorganized mess this time around?

14 makeitstop  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:31:16am

The real reason they're mad at Beeson and Gillespie is they paid them a trunk load of cash and got zero ROI.

Subsequent attempts at navel-gazing promise to be even more hilarious.

15 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:31:26am

re: #10 Targetpractice

Yeah, but you know how it goes, "conservative cannot fail, it can only be failed." They're convinced that the problem is not the ideology, it's that the messengers were not committed enough to the cause. If they'd had a "true conservative" on the ballot, then America would see the worthiness of their cause and have voted for them in droves.

Right, this is the same excuse they had after McCain and Bush to a degree when the Republicans lost Congress in 2006. They remind me of reading about the left in the 1980's who was shocked that their message wasn't being received well by the American public. They need to adapt soon or face long term political wilderness. They have to ask themselves what's more important living in reality or being "true conservatives."

16 Lidane  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:31:33am

They really believed their own b.s.

Yes, it's Kos. It's still worth a read.

17 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:31:49am

I like how Ta-Nehisi Coates put it:

[...]

I am hearing a great deal of talk about "appealing to Hispanics" and "appealing to women." But I am not hearing much about endorsing actual policies. What happened last night is not a matter of cosmetics. This is not false consciousness. This a real response to real policies. Mitt Romney actually endorsed Arizona's immigration policies. You can't fix this by flashing more pictures of brown people.

This is not a "branding problem." This is a "problem problem." Latino voters didn't go crazy. Latino voters went voter.

18 Kragar  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:31:51am

Everyone knows the real reasons Mitt lost.

He wasn't a real Christian and he wasn't a real conservative enough. They'll know better next time.

Better form a Third Party just to make sure though.

19 GunstarGreen  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:32:12am

I genuinely don't know whether to be elated or depressed at all of the right-winger rationalizations going on. Pretty much all of them are refusing to come to the conclusion that they need to stop insisting on packaging neanderthal-era views on social issues with their economics if they want any chance at all of winning.

At this rate, the only way they can satisfy their quest for MOAR PURITY would be to run Skeletor/Gaston 2016.

20 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:32:55am

It's funny to look at my old copy of America the Book(The book that the Daily Show writers wrote before the 2004 election) and see how cynical liberals felt about their party's messaging and how we were in envy about how Republicans could construe theirs. Times have changed there.

21 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:34:59am

The GOP could not do the GOTV that the Democrats had done. They're amazed at the fact that the electorate was more minority and women oriented than their models and projections had suggested? They shouldn't have been. When the Democrats specifically targeted their messages at their slices of the electorate, it was done with purpose and it once again bore fruit - with a Democratic win despite events and an economy that gave the GOP an opening.

But the GOP simply couldn't deliver a message enough people could hear and they were barely able to get through to their own faithful.

It's not all Romney's fault of course, but when you lead a party that is openly misogynistic and whose tax policy will be revealed at a later date after the election except to say that it will shift burdens onto those who can least afford them, you're going to have to man up and accept blame.

It's also quite telling when you and your running mate can't even carry the states that they call (or have called) home. If the places where you ran for office and previously were elected are now voting against you, there's something fundamentally wrong with the candidates and their platform.

22 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:35:02am

re: #17 wrenchwench

I like how Ta-Nehisi Coates put it:

And come '16, they'll put somebody like Rubio other there and go "Look, we have a young latino candidate! We're totally down with you fellas! Now, before you vote, let's see some proof of citizenship, amigo."

23 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:37:26am

re: #2 erik_t

I don't think the youngins appreciate just how refreshing and fantastical it is for the Democratic national campaign to be the competent one.

“I don't belong to an organized political party; I am a Democrat Republican.”

25 Kragar  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:37:43am

Republicans Claim Obama Won Re-election Because Blacks And Hispanics Wanted More Handouts

Republicans and conservative pundits are also advancing a new pernicious narrative: America has permanently shifted from a white male-dominated electorate, to a new crop of minority voters who support Democrats because they are dependent upon government:

– BILL O’REILLY: “The white establishment is now the minority. And the voters, many of them, feel that the economic system is stacked against them and they want stuff. You are going to see a tremendous Hispanic vote for President Obama. Overwhelming black vote for President Obama. And women will probably break President Obama’s way. People feel that they are entitled to things and which candidate, between the two, is going to give them things?” [Fox News, 11/6/2012]

– RUSH LIMBAUGH: “It’s just very difficult to beat Santa Claus. It is practically impossible to beat Santa Claus. People are not going to vote against Santa Clause especially if the alternative is being your own Santa Claus. [The Rush Limbaugh Show, 11/7/2012]

– SEAN HANNITY: “One other thing that we need to come to terms with as a result of last night. What appears to have happened is that the liberal welfare state in this country has now grown. More and more Americans have become dependent on that welfare state. As they have, they have found themselves siding with the party of government.” [Fox News, 11/7/2012]

– STUART VARNEY: “With Obama’s victory, the takers have taken over. The makers are clearly in the minority.” [Fox Business, 11/7/2012]

Conservatives are doubling down on Romney’s claim that 47 percent of Americans refuse to take “personal responsibility and care for their lives” — though the argument is highly misleading. In fact, to the extent that Americans are growing dependent upon government, Republican voters are raking in a greater share of the benefits.

26 Gus  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:38:12am
27 Kragar  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:38:13am
28 Lidane  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:38:13am

re: #21 lawhawk

It's also quite telling when you and your running mate can't even carry the states that they call (or have called) home. If the places where you ran for office and previously were elected are now voting against you, there's something fundamentally wrong with the candidates and their platform.

We know exactly what was wrong with the candidates and their platform! Mitt Romney wasn't conservative enough! He was a RINO!

We need a REAL conservative candidate next time!

/Free Republic

29 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:38:39am

Yeah they seem to think the solution is people like Rubio, Cruz, Haley, Jindal, etc. I won't use the term token here but voters of minority backgrounds want to see more than just "Hey we're not bigots here's a so and so American who belongs to our party." I think Begala also made an interesting point that perhaps their emphasis on individualism above all alienates some voters too since community is a very important cultural aspect to many groups.

30 Lidane  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:39:57am

re: #29 HappyBenghazi

I think Begala also made an interesting point that perhaps their emphasis on individualism above all alienates some voters too since community is a very important cultural aspect to many groups.

The same political party is trying to balance Ayn Rand and religious conservatism. It's no surprise their entire message is incoherent and irrelevant to most people.

31 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:40:42am

re: #4 HappyBenghazi

Of course, Romney himself wasn't a good candidate either but the mythological true conservative would have lost by even more.

Don't worry, in 2016 they're going to run Gen. Eric Republican. He always beats the Democratic candidate in the polls.

32 Lidane  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:41:10am

re: #24 Varek Raith

Limbaugh: It's "A Huge Error If [Republicans] Think That Demography Did Them In. They Didn't Get Their Base Out"

Limbaugh is in for a rude awakening in 2016 if he thinks that the GOP's problem wasn't at least partially tied to shifting demographics.

33 erik_t  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:41:10am
34 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:41:17am

re: #30 Lidane

The same political party is trying to balance Ayn Rand and religious conservatism. It's no surprise their entire message is incoherent and irrelevant to most people.

Yep, sorry guys but you can't be Ayn Rand on the economic level and John Calvin on the social level. Talk about the worst of all worlds. Oh and their attempt to get Catholics to leave Obama failed miserably.

35 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:41:27am

I'm going to predict the GOP ain't gonna learn a damn thing from their massive loss.
Call it a hunch.
;)

36 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:42:12am

Bungling out of touch strategists might well be to blame but the GOP might want to consider some other factors as well:

-Generalized contempt for science in a world where the power and achievements of science are obvious to any reasonably honest person.
-Brutal contempt for women in a country where women are the majority.
-Constant race-baiting in a society where non-whites make up over a third of the electorate.
-A transparently fraudulent economic philosophy whose real purpose, the further concentration of wealth, is obvious to all but the most gullible.
-Public embrace of superstition-spreading charlatans whose beliefs fool only the especially ignorant and delusional.

37 Lidane  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:42:52am

ROFL. Just...ROFL:

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

Today, I instructed my wife to prepare for post Obama election by doing the following:
1. Close out our bank accounts, checking accounts, savings account.

2. Eliminate and exist from all medical service programs, insurance, and destroy all medical records and ID numbers.

3. Destroy and toss all cell phones.

4. Take out and smash all black boxes in our vehicles. Will put on the road my 69 mustaang.

5. Cut up all credit cards and call to stop all transactions.

6. Call and stop propane gas shipments, will now burn firewood. Already have more than 500 cord stacked as a backup.

7. Buy only the bare necessaities and pay all bills with a money order.

8. Plan all travel areas, use back roads to avoid TSA agents.

9. Do not use landline telephone only in an emergency.

10. Call and turn off Direct TV.

11. End all computer web services.

12. Build a gate at the end of our driveway and keep it locked. Inform all friends and relatives to call first prior to a visit so the gate can be unlocked.

13. Get involved more heavily with local Tea Party to establish a third party, no more money to the GOP under any circumstance!

The list may be updated to include other more secret actions that the government need not know about here!

38 Gus  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:43:00am

re: #29 HappyBenghazi

Yeah they seem to think the solution is people like Rubio, Cruz, Haley, Jindal, etc. I won't use the term token here but voters of minority backgrounds want to see more than just "Hey we're not bigots here's a so and so American who belongs to our party." I think Begala also made an interesting point that perhaps their emphasis on individualism above all alienates some voters too since community is a very important cultural aspect to many groups.

Image: Republican_Strategists_Concept_of_Latino_Priorities.jpg

39 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:43:19am

re: #29 HappyBenghazi

Yeah they seem to think the solution is people like Rubio, Cruz, Haley, Jindal, etc. I won't use the term token here but voters of minority backgrounds want to see more than just "Hey we're not bigots here's a so and so American who belongs to our party." I think Begala also made an interesting point that perhaps their emphasis on individualism above all alienates some voters too since community is a very important cultural aspect to many groups.

Can't remember who it was, but I saw the remark that believing Hispanics should naturally gravitate towards the GOP because of their emphasis on family and religion ignores that many immigrants, particularly first generation immigrants, put a lot of focus on their community and upon collective help versus individual initiative. The argument that you can only succeed in this country on your own merits, and that failure is yours alone, is to ignore how this country came to be.

40 jamesfirecat  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:44:21am

re: #37 Lidane

ROFL. Just...ROFL:

"11. End all computer web services."

Gonna make it mighty hard to update that list my friend...

41 Gus  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:44:46am

re: #37 Lidane

ROFL. Just...ROFL:

Day 2.

My wife just asked me for a divorce.

42 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:44:55am

Lawhawk posted this downstairs just as the thread moved up here, Maddow makes an exquisitely stated and thoughtful point, worth a look if you missed it...

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

43 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:45:19am

re: #37 Lidane

ROFL. Just...ROFL:

6. Call and stop propane gas shipments, will now burn firewood. Already have more than 500 cord stacked as a backup.

I sure hope he's paid his dues to the Galt Memorial Fee For Service Fire Department.

44 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:45:22am

re: #38 Gus

Image: Republican_Strategists_Concept_of_Latino_Priorities.jpg

Same thing with Bobby Jindal and Indian Americans. It's a ridiculously insulting way of trying to get people to support your party.

45 Gus  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:45:31am

Plan all travel areas, use back roads to avoid TSA agents.

Hahaha!

46 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:46:04am

re: #37 Lidane

ROFL. Just...ROFL:

14. Start planning attack on Fort Sumter.

47 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:46:30am

re: #24 Varek Raith

Limbaugh: It's "A Huge Error If [Republicans] Think That Demography Did Them In. They Didn't Get Their Base Out"

Rush doubling down, completely discounting the fact that the GOP 'base' did its level best to completely alienate women and minorities, huh?

Why am I not surprised?

48 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:47:22am

re: #37 Lidane

ROFL. Just...ROFL:

14. Buy new matching his and hers tinfoil hats.

49 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:47:30am

re: #37 Lidane

ROFL. Just...ROFL:

14.) Move to a van down by the river.

50 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:47:34am

re: #37 Lidane

ROFL. Just...ROFL:

At which point she probably said, "that's nice, dear, now take out the garbage and clean your Wolverines! collectibles off the dinner table because we're about to eat."

51 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:47:46am

re: #37 Lidane

ROFL. Just...ROFL:

Good Lord...that's either a really good parody or a pathetic whacko...

52 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:47:59am

re: #51 Ben G. Hazi

Good Lord...that's either a really good parody or a pathetic whacko...

Why can't it be both?

53 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:48:19am

re: #47 Ben G. Hazi

Rush doubling down, completely discounting the fact that the GOP 'base' did its level best to completely alienate women and minorities, huh?

Why am I not surprised?

Eventually demographics are going to cut into Limbaugh's listening audience. Not soon enough, though.

54 Lidane  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:48:30am

re: #51 Ben G. Hazi

Good Lord...that's either a really good parody or a pathetic whacko...

That's why laughing is the better option. I'm hoping it's just satire, but with Freepers, you never know.

55 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:48:53am

re: #45 Gus

Plan all travel areas, use back roads to avoid TSA agents.

Hahaha!

Drones.
His argument is invalid.

56 Gus  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:48:59am

re: #48 ghazidor

14. Buy new matching his and hers tinfoil hats.

14. Save all of the above steps and just move to Somalia.

57 jamesfirecat  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:49:00am

re: #53 wrenchwench

Eventually demographics are going to cut into Limbaugh's listening audience. Not soon enough, though.

Don't worry last I checked the median age of his listening demographics was.... dead.

58 Kragar  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:49:12am

re: #37 Lidane

ROFL. Just...ROFL:

Note to self: Buy model airplane, buzz this guy's house nightly.

59 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:49:34am

re: #37 Lidane

ROFL. Just...ROFL:

The list may be updated to include other more secret actions that the government need not know about here!

BWAHAHAA! Fail.

He forgot to include

#14. Burn all cash money!

60 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:49:37am

Ya gotta love it. When Bush won reelection, moonbats screamed "I'M MOVING TO CANADA!" and then never left. Now that Obama wins reelection, the wingnuts scream "I'M SECEDING!" and then keep cashing their SS checks.

61 Gus  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:49:48am

re: #58 Kragar

Note to self: Buy model airplane, buzz this guy's house nightly.

RTF helicopter with blue, red and green LED lights.

62 jamesfirecat  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:49:55am

re: #58 Kragar

Note to self: Buy model airplane, buzz this guy's house nightly.

Better note to self: Buy model helicopter, spray paint black, fly it around this guy's house nightly!

63 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:49:59am

re: #53 wrenchwench

Eventually demographics are going to cut into Limbaugh's listening audience. Not soon enough, though.

I would have hoped that the Sandra Fluke would have had more of a lasting effect on his audience demographics and advertisers, but apparently not.

Severe cognitive dissonance..."conservatives" haz it.

64 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:50:00am

re: #58 Kragar

Nice, lol. Can see this idiot running out of his front door blasting into the sky with his AR-15.

65 Lidane  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:50:16am

re: #53 wrenchwench

Eventually demographics are going to cut into Limbaugh's listening audience. Not soon enough, though.

RCP is still in denial:

The Case of the Missing White Voters

But most importantly, the 2012 elections actually weren’t about a demographic explosion with non-white voters. Instead, they were about a large group of white voters not showing up.

Sure. Keep telling yourself that.

66 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:50:33am

re: #59 Vicious Babushka

BWAHAHAA! Fail.

He forgot to include #14. Burn all cash money!

Nah, use cash money to buy stacks of gold coins and heirloom seeds.

67 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:50:36am

re: #58 Kragar

Note to self: Buy model airplane black helicopter, buzz this guy's house nightly.

ftfy

68 Kragar  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:51:52am

re: #65 Lidane

RCP is still in denial:

The Case of the Missing White Voters

Sure. Keep telling yourself that.

I was there the whole time.

69 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:51:56am

re: #58 Kragar

Note to self: Buy model airplane, buzz this guy's house nightly.

Don't forget to paint it black and stencil 'NSA'/'FBI'/'ATF'/*three-letter agency of your choice* in big, white block lettering...that'd be a hoot.

70 Gus  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:52:12am
71 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:52:19am

re: #67 Vicious Babushka

ftfy

Damnit, beat me to it!

///

72 Gus  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:52:22am

That'll help.

74 Ian G.  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:52:46am

Not to beat a dead horse...

...but the last part of the interview with Gelernter might be him at his most delusional:

Even so, America herself will win only when we get rid of our dangerously infected schools and universities and get new ones. In the long run, I am all for Harvard and Yale and Princeton coming back strong — but only after losing the best students year after year to Internet colleges — a string of losses that will change their whole worldview.

Yes, I'm sure the best and the brightest will turn down those Harvard acceptance letters and go straight to Kaplan U!

And this is besides the point that Gelernter's fever dreams about left-wing indoctrination have no basis in fact. I first discovered the writings of Leo Strauss, Godfather of neoconservatism, in my freshman International Relations class at Cornell (no doubt a school Gelernter despises). I did have one liberal hippie professor of sociology, who introduced me to Julian Simon and his right/libertarian theories on technological innovation being the solution to environmental degradation. Heck, I think Simon might have been onto something with regard to global warming, since innovations like solar power and perhaps geoengineering might be our best hope at solving climate change.

Some indoctrination I received.....

75 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:52:47am

re: #37 Lidane

ROFL. Just...ROFL:

I agree with him about getting the 69 Mustang back on the road. Since when does TSA patrol the highways though? If agents are out looking for dissidents who have somehow escaped our drone surveillance, won't they have sense enough to look on the back roads too? Also how do relatives call ahead of a visit if the landline is only used in emergencies and the cell phones have been consigned to Obama-land?

In any case, we should leave these Galtist compounds to themselves. We can build a big fence around them some day, promote them as a tourist attraction, and take 21st century types out to observe the wild wingnut in its native habitat (from a safe distance of course).

76 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:52:52am

re: #65 Lidane

RCP is still in denial:

The Case of the Missing White Voters

Sure. Keep telling yourself that.

RCP, for those playing the home game, was one of those who argued that polls were biased towards Obama because pollsters were relying upon '08 voter turnout instead of '10 turnout.

77 Gus  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:54:04am

Cue the wingnut outrage.

78 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:54:06am

WTF. Bryan really gets off on this stuff.

79 Kragar  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:54:16am

WND: Prepare for 'Prosecutions' and 'Civil Unrest' under Obama

Erik Rush of WorldNetDaily was so confident of a Romney victory that he even urged ascendant conservatives to prosecute liberals and journalists for treason. But now that Obama has been re-elected, he is warning readers that the Obama administration will try to prosecute conservatives.

He believes that Obama won as a result of voter fraud, although he offers absolutely no evidence besides his own gut feeling, and media manipulation. Now he believes that Obama might intentionally sink the economy to create “civil unrest,” which “will give Obama the chance to shore up and perhaps even test his nascent totalitarian infrastructure.”

The only people seeking to intentionally crash the economy right now are Congressional Republicans.

80 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:54:17am

re: #73 Varek Raith

Vegas Employer: Obama Won, So I Fired 22 Employees

And then he'll blame Obama when his business starts failing. Brilliant move Captain Dumbass.

81 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:54:23am

re: #65 Lidane

RCP is still in denial:

The Case of the Missing White Voters

Sure. Keep telling yourself that.

I'm missing?
I better call the cops!

82 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:54:25am

re: #75 Shiplord Kirel

I agree with him about getting the 69 Mustang back on the road. Since when does TSA patrol the highways though? If agents are out looking for dissidents who have somehow escaped our drone surveillance, won't they have sense enough to look on the back roads too? Also how do relatives call ahead of a visit if the landline is only used in emergencies and the cell phones have been consigned to Obama-land?

In any case, we should leave these Galtist compounds to themselves. We can build a big fence around them some day, promote them as a tourist attraction, and take 21st century types out to observe the wild wingnut in its native habitat (from a safe distance of course).

Problem is, that voice of caution at the back of my mind is looking at these Galtists and going "McVeigh started out the same way."

83 makeitstop  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:54:42am

re: #37 Lidane

Wait, wait. Isn't this....

12. Build a gate at the end of our driveway and keep it locked. Inform all friends and relatives to call first prior to a visit so the gate can be unlocked.

At odds with... these?

3. Destroy and toss all cell phones.
9. Do not use landline telephone only in an emergency.

Stupid Freeper. Did not think this through. LOL

84 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:55:04am

re: #75 Shiplord Kirel

I agree with him about getting the 69 Mustang back on the road. Since when does TSA patrol the highways though? If agents are out looking for dissidents who have somehow escaped our drone surveillance, won't they have sense enough to look on the back roads too? Also how do relatives call ahead of a visit if the landline is only used in emergencies and the cell phones have been consigned to Obama-land?

In any case, we should leave these Galtist compounds to themselves. We can build a big fence around them some day, promote them as a tourist attraction, and take 21st century types out to observe the wild wingnut in its native habitat (from a safe distance of course).

Where's he gonna find high octane gas for his '69 Mustang? He gonna refine it himself?

85 Charles Johnson  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:55:08am
86 Four More Tears  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:55:22am
87 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:55:39am

re: #77 Gus

Cue the wingnut outrage.

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APOLOGY TOUR!!!

88 erik_t  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:56:03am

re: #78 Vicious Babushka

@BryanJFischer Middle school children taught about homosexual foreplay, Saran wrap. Don't even ask.

I'm surprised that creep was able to type that with one hand.

89 GunstarGreen  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:56:30am

re: #37 Lidane

ROFL. Just...ROFL:

9 and 12 do not make any sense together in the same list. Unless of course they somehow think that their cell phones are more off-the-grid than landline phones (lol).

Much like "Atheist AND Muslim", hardcore wingnuts have not just lost all grip on reality, they're starting to lose their grip on language too. Truly regressing to the neanderthal state.

90 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:56:34am

re: #84 Vicious Babushka

Where's he gonna find high octane gas for his '69 Mustang? He gonna refine it himself?

He's obviously bought one of those magic devices that will allow him to burn wood chips in it. Actually, he could set it up to burn moonshine, a product with which he and his neighbors are no doubt familiar.

92 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:57:28am

re: #82 Targetpractice

Problem is, that voice of caution at the back of my mind is looking at these Galtists and going "McVeigh started out the same way."

I really dread saying this, but if shit like that Freeper posted becomes the standard of the RWNJ hive mind, I fear that we'll have another OKC-style bombing, an attempt on the president's life, or both within the next four years.

On this, let my gut feeling be extremely wrong...

93 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:57:34am

Thinking of that list from Focus on the Family about all the horrid things to take place should Obama win in 2012. Guess things will be doubleplus bad by 2016 but nonetheless, somehow, there will still be an America standing in which conservatives can contest another election. Even if Obama destroys America or even if he has already destroyed America. /

94 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:58:07am

re: #83 makeitstopghazi

Wait, wait. Isn't this....

At odds with... these?

Stupid Freeper. Did not think this through. LOL

Maybe he's gonna use tin cans and a string...

95 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:58:17am

re: #84 Vicious Babushka

Where's he gonna find high octane gas for his '69 Mustang? He gonna refine it himself?

He's going to drive on down to Galt's Gulch and buy some from Ellis Wyatt, obviously.

96 Bubblehead II  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:58:26am

My question is this. How long until Reince Priebus gets gets thrown under the bus and who is in the wings to replace him?

97 Kragar  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:59:16am

re: #96 Only The Lurker Knows

My question is this. How long until Reince Priebus gets gets thrown under the bus and who is in the wings to replace him?

Soon and RON PAUL!

98 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:59:36am

re: #91 Varek Raith

Rush: "We Are In The Middle Of Some Fundamental Shifts In This Country," And If We're "Not Outnumbered, Then On The Way"

MAKE UP YOUR MIND!!!!

Didn't get their base out? Hmm. Presidential elections are usually the time and place to do that. Maybe they just need more money. They could try and create something like a, I don't know, call it a SuperPAC, to raise unlimited amounts of green. And if they could get a cable TV "news" station together, that would surely help them. /

99 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 10:59:55am

re: #90 Shiplord Kirel

He's obviously bought one of those magic devices that will allow him to burn wood chips in it. Actually, he could set it up to burn moonshine, a product with which he and his neighbors are no doubt familiar.

Mr. Fusion!

100 Gus  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:00:02am

re: #87 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society

[Link: twitter.com...]

101 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:00:02am

In other bad prediction news, fatass bullshit artist admits mistake, congratulates others who actually acknowledged reality:

‘Unskewed Polls’ Founder Admits He Was Wrong

Dean Chambers, the man behind “unskewed polls,” a site that attempted to re-weight polls that Chambers thought oversampled Democrats, admitted to his model’s shortcomings on Wednesday.

“Most of the polls I ‘unskewed’ were based on samples that generally included about five or six or seven percent more Democrats than Republicans, and I doubted and questioned the results of those polls, and then ‘unskewed’ them based on my belief that a nearly equal percentage of Democrats and Republicans would turn out in the actual election this year,” Chambers wrote on The Examiner website. “I was wrong on that assumption and those who predicted a turnout model of five or six percent in favor of Democrats were right. Likewise, the polling numbers they produced going on that assumption turned out to be right and my ‘unskewed’ numbers were off the mark.”

Leading up to Election Day, Chambers took polls that showed a Democratic Party identification advantage and adjusted them to reflect more Republicans in the electorate. As of late September, the “unskewed” site showed Mitt Romney leading President Obama by 7.4 points. In Chambers’ final projection, he estimated Romney would win 51 percent of the popular vote and 275 electoral votes. That, of course, didn’t happen. Obama won the popular vote and 303 electoral votes to Romney’s 206 (Florida has yet to be decided).

102 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:00:03am

Already in my in-box this morning. Sigh, at least we got a day of reprieve from this stuff.

(Reuters) - Hours after U.S. President Barack Obama was re-elected, the United States backed a U.N. committee's call on Wednesday to renew debate over a draft international treaty to regulate the $70 billion global conventional arms trade.

you?

103 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:00:08am

re: #92 Ben G. Hazi

Just like the rest of the Wolverines, it's just butt-hurt the black guy won. Tomorrow will come, and they'll all go back to whatever it was they were doing, just like we've all been doing for the past how many-ever years.

104 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:00:39am

re: #101 Targetpractice

In other bad prediction news, fatass bullshit artist admits mistake, congratulates others who actually acknowledged reality:

‘Unskewed Polls’ Founder Admits He Was Wrong

More integrity than Dick Morris!

105 Ian G.  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:01:09am

re: #29 HappyBenghazi

I love these delusions, even though the evidence to the contrary is smacking them in the face with a 2x4.

If minorities are just going to blindly vote for minorities (how insulting!), then Allen West should have won 95% of the African-American vote. Yeah....

If "we didn't nominate a true conservative!!!!!11ty" was the problem, then Richard Mourdock should have won more of a share of the Indiana Senate vote than Dick Lugar ever did. Yeah...

106 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:01:24am

re: #81 Varek Raith

I'm missing?
I better call the cops!

The undead can vote?

Show me your Undead Certificate!

107 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:01:40am

re: #83 makeitstopghazi

Wait, wait. Isn't this....

At odds with... these?

Stupid Freeper. Did not think this through. LOL

I suited up in hazmat and stepped into the Fever Swamp, it looks like the other FReepers think it is a parody. They are stupid but they are not that freaking stupid.

108 Gus  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:01:45am

re: #104 Varek Raith

More integrity than Dick Morris!

And Jonah Goldberg.

109 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:01:45am

Btw, this is a cord of wood:
1 cord, 128 cubic feet

If this fool has 500 cord (a thousand tons or more) stacked around, he will be very easy to find.

110 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:02:04am

re: #105 Ian G.

I love these delusions, even though the evidence to the contrary is smacking them in the face with a 2x4.

If minorities are just going to blindly vote for minorities (how insulting!), then Allen West should have won 95% of the African-American vote. Yeah....

If "we didn't nominate a true conservative!!!!!11ty" was the problem, then Richard Mourdock should have won more of a share of the Indiana Senate vote than Dick Lugar ever did. Yeah...

Precisely. They remind me of the idiots on the left in 2004 who were convinced that the problem was that someone like Dennis Kucinich wasn't nominated.

111 Lidane  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:02:36am

re: #83 makeitstopghazi

Wait, wait. Isn't this....

At odds with... these?

Stupid Freeper. Did not think this through. LOL

Other Freepers are pointing this out in the comments, especially since a lot of folks thought it was satire but now it seems like the guy is serious:

Oh my. I thought that this was a tongue in cheek post. You’re serious about all this?
----

Call? Dude. You done threw away the cell phones and don’t use the land lines.
---

[Gee whiz...I hope you’re going to pitch in. That’s a heavy list to put on your wife’s shoulders. ]

I laughed. If my husband gave me this list and “instructed” me to do it, I’d tell him he was losing it and to do it himself.
---

If you’re destroying all cell phones and only using landlines in an emergency then how are your friends going to call you when they need the gate unlocked?
---

Well....we are laughing WITH you....sorta.

You are going Galt, off the grid, etc. We get it. More power to you, fine prepper. Keep in touch.
---

Was she supposed to have all that done by the end of the day?

112 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:02:41am

re: #91 Varek Raith

Rush: "We Are In The Middle Of Some Fundamental Shifts In This Country," And If We're "Not Outnumbered, Then On The Way"

MAKE UP YOUR MIND!!!!

Why the US vs Them meme?

I really don't get it.

113 makeitstop  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:02:44am

re: #107 Vicious Babushka

I suited up in hazmat and stepped into the Fever Swamp, it looks like the other FReepers think it is a parody. They are stupid but they are not that freaking stupid.

You're a better man than I, lady. :)

114 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:02:54am

re: #43 wrenchwench

I sure hope he's paid his dues to the Galt Memorial Fee For Service Fire Department.

I hear ya. This guy says he has a bunch stacked up so he might not be in immediate danger, but. I read a few days ago somewhere, maybe here, of someone saying they were going to go out back and cut up trees that had fallen last week and be burning them this winter. A lot of moisture in just fallen/fell trees that haven't been let season for a year or more. Really builds up quick in the flue and on up the chimney and really increases your odds of having a chimney fire that takes down your house.

115 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:02:56am

re: #109 Shiplord Kirel

Btw, this is a cord of wood:
1 cord, 128 cubic feet

If this fool has 500 cord (a thousand tons or more) stacked around, he will be very easy to find.

Yep, big stack of wood and a big chunk of missing forest.

116 Kragar  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:03:26am

re: #101 Targetpractice

In other bad prediction news, fatass bullshit artist admits mistake, congratulates others who actually acknowledged reality:

‘Unskewed Polls’ Founder Admits He Was Wrong

So he's going to return any money he made, right?
/

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

117 nines09  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:04:10am

re: #109 Shiplord Kirel

Btw, this is a cord of wood:
1 cord, 128 cubic feet

If this fool has 500 cord (a thousand tons or more) stacked around, he will be very easy to find.

I was thinking the exact same thing. And half will be punked out and he will probably get 1000 wasp stings and assorted rat scares. Maybe a loco coon or two.

118 Four More Tears  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:04:35am

Has anyone checked on Victoria Jackson to see if she's stopped crying? My glass is almost empty...

119 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:04:40am

re: #112 Gretchen G.Tiger

Why the US vs Them meme?
It's all they know.
I really don't get it.

120 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:04:45am

re: #112 Gretchen G.Tiger

Why the US vs Them meme?

I really don't get it.

It's a pining for a second Civil War because they're so convinced that they would win because conservatives are all manly men and liberals are all girly sissies. Fucking idiots.

121 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:04:55am

re: #117 909Ghazis

I was thinking the exact same thing. And half will be punked out and he will probably get 1000 wasp stings and assorted rat scares. Maybe a loco coon or two.

wood rats --nasty, nasty!

122 bubba zanetti  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:05:00am
123 Four More Tears  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:05:10am
124 geoduck  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:05:46am

re: #94 Ben G. Hazi

Maybe he's gonna use tin cans and a string...

No, no. Carrier pigeons.

125 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:05:51am

re: #117 909Ghazis

I was thinking the exact same thing. And half will be punked out and he will probably get 1000 wasp stings and assorted rat scares. Maybe a loco coon or two.

That last is what he sees as the whole problem in the first place.

126 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:05:56am

re: #118 Four More Tears

Has anyone checked on Victoria Jackson to see if she's stopped crying? My glass is almost empty...

She's busy trying to speak at America's funeral but America's family members are telling her that America's better than ever.

127 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:06:01am

What the hell would you need a private stash of 500 cord for???

128 Four More Tears  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:06:17am

Huff has an awesome headline for Rove: DEATH OF A SALESMAN

129 Gus  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:06:33am

re: #109 Shiplord Kirel

Btw, this is a cord of wood:
1 cord, 128 cubic feet

If this fool has 500 cord (a thousand tons or more) stacked around, he will be very easy to find.

So that would be 500 X 4' X 4' X 8' = 64,000 cubic ft.

130 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:06:50am

re: #129 Gus

So that would 500 X 4' X 4' X 8' = 64,000 cubic ft.

WITCH!

131 nines09  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:06:56am

re: #125 wrenchwench

BANG!

132 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:07:11am

There is one thing I am convinced of --regardless of science, religion, and bullshit:

There are 7 Billion People on this Planet. We either start thinking of ourselves as one People or the Planet will kick us off and in the mean-time things will get real, real gnarly.

133 Gus  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:07:47am

re: #130 Varek Raith

WITCH!

Lined up that would be 2000 feet long.

134 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:08:00am

re: #78 Vicious Babushka

WTF. Bryan really gets off on this stuff.

Middle school children taught about homosexual foreplay, Saran wrap. Don't even ask. radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/to...

— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) November 8, 2012

Yeah, he had to watch the film 10 times to even believe it himself.

135 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:08:21am

re: #120 HappyBenghazi

It's a pining for a second Civil War because they're so convinced that they would win because conservatives are all manly men and liberals are all girly sissies. Fucking idiots.

One Southron can whip 10 Yankees with a cornstalk!

136 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:08:32am

re: #128 Four More Tears

Huff has an awesome headline for Rove: DEATH OF A SALESMAN

Fark's is better:

Billionaire donors prepare to take Rove to the woodshed

137 makeitstop  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:08:51am

re: #123 Four More Tears

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Coverup!
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138 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:09:17am

re: #135 Vicious Babushka

Ha yep. To which I say "faugh a ballagh"

139 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:09:25am

re: #133 Gus

Lined up that would be 2000 feet long.

Gee, a half mile long.
Totally invisible.

140 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:09:26am

Our wingnuts isn't learning.

141 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:09:50am

re: #101 Targetpractice

He's blaming the pollsters that he "unskewed" for coming up with bad numbers/figures. And demographics/party affiliation too (D/R/I) wasn't what he thought it was.

However, it was those same sources from which Silver coaxed out the winning formula. YEAH! (except the Senate race in Montana - so BOOO!/).

142 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:10:16am

re: #138 HappyBenghazi

Ha yep. To which I say "faugh a ballagh"

Ich verstehe das nicht.

143 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:10:51am

I am also a *little* miffed at conservatives.

"We need to reach women and minorities better"

Fuck You

You need to stop insulting more than 1/2 of the electorate. Its not that you aren't reaching us. We get your message LOUD and CLEAR. No matter how you dress-it-up, you are elitist, misogynist scum.

We either work together or we kick you out.

144 Kragar  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:11:07am

re: #120 HappyBenghazi

It's a pining for a second Civil War because they're so convinced that they would win because conservatives are all manly men and liberals are all girly sissies. Fucking idiots.

Tell them to pick a field of battle upon which we shall meet!

I'll be prepping the artillery.

145 Four More Tears  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:11:31am

They couldn't hit an unmanned drone?

146 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:11:53am

re: #142 Vicious Babushka

Ich verstehe das nicht.

HA, the only phrase I managed to learn in french and I can't even write it.

147 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:11:57am

re: #133 Gus

With a sign on the end that says, "kick me"? /

148 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:12:04am

re: #144 Kragar

Tell them to pick a field of battle upon which we shall meet!

I'll be prepping the artillery.

I'll bring in the air cover.

149 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:12:08am

re: #142 Vicious Babushka

Ich verstehe das nicht.

Clear the way in Gaelic. It was the Irish Brigade's rallying cry at 1st Manassas and Antietam.

150 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:12:09am

re: #145 Four More Tears

But, but, but, they're scary and must be bombed!//

151 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:12:25am

re: #145 Four More Tears

They couldn't hit an unmanned drone?

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Lol.

152 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:12:34am

re: #146 Gretchen G.Tiger

HA, the only phrase I managed to learn in french and I can't even write it.

Deutsch :).

153 Gus  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:13:05am

re: #147 lawhawk

With a sign on the end that says, "kick me"? /

Or 478,753.25 US gallons worth. //

154 Four More Tears  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:13:31am
155 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:13:41am

re: #145 Four More Tears

They couldn't hit an unmanned drone?

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156 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:13:43am

re: #69 Ben G. Hazi

Don't forget to paint it black and stencil 'NSA'/'FBI'/'ATF'/*three-letter agency of your choice* in big, white block lettering...that'd be a hoot.

Nah, Baby Blue UN on the side...

157 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:13:57am

re: #152 HappyBenghazi

Deutsch :).

I know, I googled it.

It's the french version I can't write, but I can say it!

158 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:14:19am

re: #157 Gretchen G.Tiger

I know, I googled it.

It's the french version I can't write, but I can say it!

Je ne comprends pas.

159 Four More Tears  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:15:25am
160 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:15:31am

re: #158 Vicious Babushka

Je ne comprends pas.

Oui

161 Lidane  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:15:46am
162 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:15:54am

re: #157 Gretchen G.Tiger

I know, I googled it.

It's the french version I can't write, but I can say it!

Ah, my French is like Brad Pitt's Italian in Inglorious Basterds.

163 Four More Tears  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:16:09am
164 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:16:10am

God, the Fark headlines are absolute gems since Tuesday. The cup of schadenfreude runneth over.

165 Gus  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:16:28am

re: #159 Four More Tears

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Fiscal conservatism.

Hey. I thought only libruls! sued.

166 Kragar  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:17:26am

re: #158 Vicious Babushka

Je ne comprends pas.

Je ne parle pas Francais.

167 Lidane  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:17:30am

re: #163 Four More Tears

Because Dick Morris wasn't completely discredited on Tuesday night. Really.

168 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:18:37am

re: #162 HappyBenghazi

Ah, my French is like Brad Pitt's Italian in Inglorious Basterds.

The only Tarantino movie I couldn't sit thru. I get majorly sensitive over WWII issues.

169 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:18:56am

re: #16 Lidane

They really believed their own b.s.

Yes, it's Kos. It's still worth a read.

I might have an example just as illustrative Lidane.

Slate has a wonderful graphic. It's practically a wishful thinking chart
[Link: www.slate.com...]

170 Four More Tears  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:19:16am

This is fucking ridiculous.

RPT-Walmart moves "Black Friday" earlier on Thanksgiving night

Nov 8 (Reuters) - Walmart will kick off its holiday sales rush at 8 p.m. on Thanksgiving, its earliest start ever, and will guarantee that those who line up can buy a trio of gadgets as it places a big bet that shoppers are ready to spend this holiday season.

171 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:19:18am

re: #167 Lidane

Because Dick Morris wasn't completely discredited on Tuesday night. Really.

Did he finally surface? Bad hangover?

172 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:19:32am

re: #161 Lidane

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Well it's nice someone gets it. And I looked him up because I remember seeing him on an American Justice episode about the Jeffrey Lundgern case where he was a prosecutor and he's actually pretty sane for a modern Congressional Republican.

173 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:19:37am

re: #167 Lidane

Because Dick Morris wasn't completely discredited on Tuesday night. Really.

Morris seemed to be relying on the Chambers excuse: "The polls failed me!"

174 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:20:48am

re: #171 Gretchen G.Tiger

Did he finally surface? Bad hangover?

He's bitching about the demographics. Yeah Dick times have changed. That's your party and ideology's problem for not responding to that and it's not that they want free stuff as your idiotic colleague, Mr. O'Reilly claims.

175 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:21:01am

Speaking of excuses, the WSJ has a new one for Romney: He spent too much money in the primaries.

176 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:21:13am

re: #168 Gretchen G.Tiger

The only Tarantino movie I couldn't sit thru. I get majorly sensitive over WWII issues.

I liked it myself.

177 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:22:16am

re: #170 Four More Tears

This is fucking ridiculous.

RPT-Walmart moves "Black Friday" earlier on Thanksgiving night

They're losing customers to online shopping, so this is a desperate attempt to get some back. "Black Friday" is well on it's way to irrelevancy.

178 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:22:17am

re: #175 Targetpractice

Speaking of excuses, the WSJ has a new one for Romney: He spent too much money in the primaries.

Haha. Yes he had to spend too much money to fend off Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich, and Ron Paul who could be dubbed the Three Stooges.

179 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:22:30am

re: #145 Four More Tears

That is literally the most pathetic thing I have heard all week.

Predators aren't exactly fighter jets in speed and maneuverability. They are easy targets. And they still missed it?

180 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:22:44am

re: #176 HappyBenghazi

I liked it myself.

I hear it was good. Just couldn't take it. I have a hard time when *some* topics become the object of humour. I think it diminishes their importance in history.

Like Pedophile jokes --not funny.

181 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:22:47am

re: #170 Four More Tears

What's more ridiculous are those that line up and trample each other to buy their shit. I hope they get abducted by aliens and experimented on.

182 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:23:54am

re: #175 Targetpractice

Speaking of excuses, the WSJ has a new one for Romney: He spent too much money in the primaries.

Yeah, the campaign spent so much money there were literally no tv ad slots to be had in the swing states, but his problem was too little money. Right.

183 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:24:41am

re: #179 ProGunLiberal

Well, either they missed on purpose "message sending," or they're auditioning for the 3rd HotShots movie.

184 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:25:53am

re: #180 Gretchen G.Tiger

I hear it was good. Just couldn't take it. I have a hard time when *some* topics become the object of humour. I think it diminishes their importance in history.

Like Pedophile jokes --not funny.

Understand. Did you see Defiance? I really liked that one because it was based off a true story. Beautiful musical score too. Some really nice violin work.

185 sagehen  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:26:17am

In Ohio, the 2008 electorate was 11% black. This week, it was 15%.

TNC tells us why:

We talked yesterday about the kind of substantive reform the GOP could make in order to diversify. Here is a good one: Stop trying to inhibit participation. Stop it. You will not make us lazy. You will only make us angry:

Barack Obama knew who he was talking to when he called voting the best revenge. We don't need no high-faluting reasons to stand in those long lines. We'll stand there just for the privilege of putting that stutter in Karl Rove's speech, and that panicked look on his face.

186 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:26:50am

re: #182 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society

Yeah, the campaign spent so much money there were literally no tv ad slots to be had in the swing states, but his problem was too little money. Right.

I think that statement was just a cry to the money bag backers that next time they "NEED MORE MONEY", and that will make it finally work out their way.

187 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:26:52am

re: #83 makeitstopghazi

Wait, wait. Isn't this....

At odds with... these?

Stupid Freeper. Did not think this through. LOL

Well, thinking it through would have required thought, and thought is the enemy of Truth™ and Liberty™.

188 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:31:02am

re: #184 HappyBenghazi

Understand. Did you see Defiance? I really liked that one because it was based off a true story. Beautiful musical score too. Some really nice violin work.

No I didn't. I've kinda been staying away from the big and small screens lately.

189 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:43:13am

re: #83 makeitstopghazi

Wait, wait. Isn't this....

At odds with... these?

Stupid Freeper. Did not think this through. LOL

And as the last landline in America and no internet to get onto the do-not-call list he will receive every spam call in America.
/

190 Kaessa  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:53:51am

Projection overload:

191 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:54:44am

re: #81 Varek Raith

I'm missing?
I better call the cops!

Have you looked for yourself behind the couch?

192 Skip Intro  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:58:31am

Limbaugh's problem is that he's desperately trying to hold on to his base, but the ungrateful bastards just keep dying on him.

193 Skip Intro  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 12:24:29pm

re: #190 Kaessa

Can Fox News become an even bigger joke? Have Rove back again and again with theory after theory while ignoring that he pissed away $300 million for a 1% return, then top it off by having one of their hosts announce she's going to get "expert" advice from Dick Morris, the Orly Taitz of pundits.

These people haven't just doubled down on stupid, they've mortgaged the house and made it a quadruple.


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