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Adviser: Romney Was ‘Shellshocked’

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Details are now leaking out about what it was like in the final hours of the Romney campaign: Adviser: Romney ‘Shellshocked’ by Loss.

Romney was stoic as he talked to the president, an aide said, but his wife Ann cried. Running mate Paul Ryan seemed genuinely shocked, the adviser said. Ryan’s wife Janna also was shaken and cried softly.

“There’s nothing worse than when you think you’re going to win, and you don’t,” said another adviser. “It was like a sucker punch.”

Their emotion was visible on their faces when they walked on stage after Romney finished his remarks, which Romney had hastily composed, knowing he had to say something.

Both wives looked stricken, and Ryan himself seemed grim. They all were thrust on that stage without understanding what had just happened.

“He was shellshocked,” one adviser said of Romney.

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85 comments

1 Iwouldprefernotto  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:34:40pm

Good. He never deserved the job.

2 DisturbedEma  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:35:46pm

re: #1 Iwouldprefernotto

Don't know what Ryan has to bitch about, he's still in office. . .I guess if I was one of the wives, I'd be more pissed than sad. . .

3 bratwurst  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:36:28pm

I was dubious when I heard on election night that Romney had not prepared a concession speech , but it really does seem like this was the case. Talk about a classic 'emperor with no clothes' scenario.

4 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:36:58pm

This is one of those stories that makes me more confident that the man never should have been president, where you have to prepare for every eventuality, not just the best case scenarios. Going into election night so convinced of your own superiority that you don't even have a concession speech written up is not a sign of confidence, it's a sign of arrogance. And arrogance is useless when you get that 3am phone call that Israel has just launched strikes on Iran and the entire Middle East is going ballistic in response.

5 nines09  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:38:10pm

Yeah, I want that Pillar Of Granite answering that 3AM phone call.

6 jaunte  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:38:14pm

Maybe it was a learning moment for some people. Based on what I read at conservative websites, not enough people.

7 allegro  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:39:09pm

It appears that Romney has had his first taste of a situation he can't control. Money, an important name, and a bullying nature couldn't pull this one off. The American people won this one.

I feel great relief.

8 DisturbedEma  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:39:11pm

re: #4 Targetpractice

Amen

9 Four More Beers  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:39:56pm

So if the wackos actually believe God is in charge and actually cares who wins our elections, that means Obama was God's choice and they should obey God's wishes and support Obama, right?

10 nines09  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:40:32pm

Romney is the Hollow Man. Empty. Small. And thankfully GONE.

11 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:40:56pm

This makes me happier than anything, that Romney actually didn't see it coming, at all. That they bought into the unskewed polls fantasy, that he didn't even have a concession speech prepared, and his team loaded up their President Elect transition page. Absolute hubris followed by soul shattering defeat, it couldn't have happened to a more deserving person.

Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
-Proverbs 16:18

12 Lidane  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:41:24pm

re: #9 Four More Beers

So if the wackos actually believe God is in charge and actually cares who wins our elections, that means Obama was God's choice and they should obey God's wishes and support Obama, right?

LOL no. They think it's proof that God has forsaken America, which is now apparently lost to all hopes of redemption or something.

13 DisturbedEma  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:42:28pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

What was that line. . on the Rove thread- he believed the Republican Math to feel better. . .

14 b_Snark  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:42:51pm

re: #3 bratwurst

I was dubious when I heard on election night that Romney had not prepared a concession speech , but it really does seem like this was the case. Talk about a classic 'emperor with no clothes' scenario.

It may be prudent to hang on to that skepticism. Rumours like that tend to die big.

15 allegro  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:43:50pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

This makes me happier than anything, that Romney actually didn't see it coming, at all. That they bought into the unskewed polls fantasy, that he didn't even have a concession speech prepared, and his team loaded up their President Elect transition page. Absolute hubris followed by soul shattering defeat, it couldn't have happened to a more deserving person.

Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
-Proverbs 16:18

That is pretty darn gratifying. Romney standing in for every asshole, blowhard, bully we've ever had the displeasure to know and the end we so desire to see come of them. Justice.

16 engineer cat  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:44:00pm

re: #12 Lidane

LOL no. They think it's proof that God has forsaken America, which is now apparently lost to all hopes of redemption or something.

wingnuts have never been too keen on being aware of the whole 'problem of evil' paradox

17 b_Snark  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:44:25pm

re: #9 Four More Beers

So if the wackos actually believe God is in charge and actually cares who wins our elections, that means Obama was God's choice and they should obey God's wishes and support Obama, right?

Yah, right.

You expect logic to pass through their brain filters?

18 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:45:46pm

re: #14 b_snark

It may be prudent to hang on to that skepticism. Rumours like that tend to die big.

That's not a rumor, he told the press that himself.

Obama said late Tuesday in an interview with Denver television station KDVR that he had prepared both a victory speech and a concession speech for election night.

“You always have two speeches prepared because you can’t take anything for granted,” Obama said. Romney on Tuesday told reporters he has only prepared a victory speech.

19 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:47:04pm

Was chatting with a Puerto Rican friend of mine who I attended High School with. I did tell him I will credit the Republicans with one thing. They have not disrupted a ballot question multiple times to keep themselves relevant. They may be a bit bigoted and crooked, but they don't do that chicanery.

20 b_Snark  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:47:30pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

That's not a rumor, he told the press that himself.

I was talking about the rumour that Romney didn't prepare a concession speech.

21 Good Morning  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:48:49pm

I says his highly paid advisers snookered him into believing he was going to win by inflating his voter turnout numbers. Voter turnout seems to have been bad for both candidates, and is a bad sign as to the legitimacy of the election process. But Romney would have won if everyone who voted for McCain voted for Romney, while many people who voted for Obama in 08 stayed home which they did. So his advisers were half right, people who voted Obama in '08, didn't show up at the polls in '12.

22 DisturbedEma  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:49:30pm

re: #12 Lidane

So, compassion, equality, and acceptance is the Debbil's werk?? :)

23 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:49:51pm

re: #20 b_snark

I was talking about the rumour that Romney didn't prepare a concession speech.

Yeah. He didn't. He told the press that. It's not a rumor.

“You always have two speeches prepared because you can’t take anything for granted,” Obama said. Romney on Tuesday told reporters he has only prepared a victory speech.

Unless of course he was just lying to make himself look like even more of a prick.

24 b_Snark  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:50:29pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

That's not a rumor, he told the press that himself.

From that same article - Romney:

"But I’ve only written one speech at this point."

That leaves whether he did or didn't write a concession speech up in the air.

25 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:50:30pm

Now I really can't wait til the tell-all books start trickling out from former staffers. Because I get the feeling that the behind-the-scenes goings on at the Romney campaign will make the McCain campaign look like a well-oiled machine by comparison.

26 jaunte  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:50:55pm

Governance!

27 DisturbedEma  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:51:32pm

re: #25 Targetpractice

Palin and Paul, seperated at birth? We need the long form on those 2 now. . ./

28 DisturbedEma  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:52:03pm

re: #26 jaunte

So it begins. . .the DoucheDick brothers. . .shit

29 allegro  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:52:42pm

re: #24 b_snark

From that same article - Romney:

That leaves whether he did or didn't write a concession speech up in the air.

Actually, no. I recall a considerable amount of discussion about his written acceptance speech during the day to know that it was 1,118 words in length. There was nothing "in the air."

30 Cap'n Magic  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:53:23pm

The Cato folks are crowing about how this election vindicates Citizens United by saying: "See? Billions spent and its pretty much the same result as the last four years!" I'd call that analysis naive at best and cynically disingeneous at its worst-had we been in the same economic and political state that the EU is in presently, coupled with a more cunning wolf-in-sheepsclothing GOP nominee it would be an entirely different outcome. We dodged a bullet this time-next time we may not be so lucky.

31 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:55:04pm

re: #24 b_snark

From that same article - Romney:

That leaves whether he did or didn't write a concession speech up in the air.

What? He said he'd only written the victory speech, nothing else, so it's up in the air?

Yeah he eventually gave a concession speech, which was pretty formulaic and came off like a rush job. But it's not a rumor that he went into election day without that prepared, because he said so.

32 jaunte  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:55:05pm

re: #28 DisturbedEma

The DoucheDicks and Darrell:

Rep. Issa allegedly violated House ethics rules with anti-Obama video

Issa, the chairman of the powerful House Oversight Committee,
on November 2 uploaded a video to YouTube that attacks Obama
over State Department dinner spending.

“The attack ad offers no information about any action whatsoever by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.”

"...It makes no attempt to put the costs of the two state dinners into context — no information is provided about the costs of any other administrations’ state dinners. In fact, the only purpose of the ad — particularly given its release just days before a hotly contested presidential election — is to attempt to elicit outrage against the president for holding state dinners at a time when Americans are facing fiscal difficulties.”

[Link: www.rawstory.com...]

33 b_Snark  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:55:26pm

re: #23 goddamnedfrank

Yeah. He didn't. He told the press that. It's not a rumor.

Unless of course he was just lying to make himself look like even more of a prick.

The words you chose were those of a reporter.

Romney's words:

“I just finished writing a victory speech,” Romney said. “It’s about 1118 words and I’m sure it will change before I’m finished because I haven’t passed it around to my family and friends and advisers to get their reaction. But I’ve only written one speech at this point.”

That sounds like the question was asked while he was writing speeches. Had he been asked later, would he have given the same answer?

34 engineer cat  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:55:56pm

re: #22 DisturbedEma

So, compassion, equality, and acceptance is the Debbil's werk?? :)

the rapture people actually specify that the antichrist will be preaching compassion

35 EPR-radar  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:56:11pm

re: #30 Cap'n Magic

The Cato folks are crowing about how this election vindicates Citizens United by saying: "See? Billions spent and its pretty much the same result as the last four years!" I'd call that analysis naive at best and cynically disingeneous at its worst-had we been in the same economic and political state that the EU is in presently, coupled with a more cunning wolf-in-sheepsclothing GOP nominee it would be an entirely different outcome. We dodged a bullet this time-next time we may not be so lucky.

I think the real effect of CU will be to allow big $$$ to quietly buy up House seats.

36 DisturbedEma  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:56:40pm
37 DisturbedEma  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:57:34pm

re: #34 engineer cat

So the Christians, true Christians, will be preaching what? I admit not my area of expertise, as a Jewish woman, but that makes no sense. . .

38 DisturbedEma  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:58:46pm

re: #33 b_snark

Did you read the quote? From Romney?

39 Schadenfreude 'r' Us  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:58:49pm

re: #25 Targetpractice

Now I really can't wait til the tell-all books start trickling out from former staffers. Because I get the feeling that the behind-the-scenes goings on at the Romney campaign will make the McCain campaign look like a well-oiled machine by comparison.

And the wish for revenge on the guy who cut off their credit cards before they could get home may be pretty strong.

40 DisturbedEma  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 6:59:42pm

re: #32 jaunte

Yep- Duke of DoucheDickdom. . .Darrell

41 Gus  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:00:25pm

re: #26 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Governance!

This is how angry I am.

42 engineer cat  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:00:33pm

re: #37 DisturbedEma

So the Christians, true Christians, will be preaching what? I admit not my area of expertise, as a Jewish woman, but that makes no sense. . .

the radical evangelicans have gone full un-jesus, and will tell you that being forgiven for you sins is the only thing, and that good deeds are not important

yes, you read that correctly. one evangelical told me "your good deeds are as filthy rags before god"

43 b_Snark  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:00:37pm

re: #29 allegro

Actually, no. I recall a considerable amount of discussion about his written acceptance speech during the day to know that it was 1,118 words in length. There was nothing "in the air."

Why would you mention his acceptance speech when we are talking about his concession speech? Is the writing of the two mutually exclusive?

His own words "But I’ve only written one speech at this point" implies he isn't done yet.

Was he done? I don't know, but I'm not going to jump to that conclusion.

44 DisturbedEma  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:00:43pm

re: #39 Schadenfreude 'r' Us

There must have been a horrible moment for so many of them, as in "I worked to get this asshat elected, and this is how he treats me?"

45 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:00:44pm

Obdicut-
Answered as best I could. Continue or call it a dead thread?

46 b_Snark  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:01:56pm

re: #31 goddamnedfrank

What? He said he'd only written the victory speech, nothing else, so it's up in the air?

Yeah he eventually gave a concession speech, which was pretty formulaic and came off like a rush job. But it's not a rumor that he went into election day without that prepared, because he said so.

For fuck sakes, did you read what Romney said?
His own words "But I’ve only written one speech at this point" implies he wasn't done after writing the one speech.

47 DisturbedEma  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:02:15pm

re: #42 engineer cat

Wow, did someone let Jesus know? Everything I've read on him makes me believe he'd hate this. . .so WWJD now means what? Jesus will pack heat and show no mercy?

48 engineer cat  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:02:36pm

2. Independents. State polls showed Romney winning big among independents. Historically, any candidate polling that well among independents wins. But as it turned out, many of those independents were former Republicans who now self-identify as independents. The state polls weren't oversampling Democrats and undersampling Republicans - there just weren't as many Republicans this time because they were calling themselves independents.

what does it say about a party if so many of its former adherents will no longer admit to belonging to it?

49 DisturbedEma  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:03:16pm

re: #46 b_snark

so instead of following coverage, he was scratching away at the speech?

50 b_Snark  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:03:58pm

re: #38 DisturbedEma

Did you read the quote? From Romney?

You mean this one?

“I just finished writing a victory speech,” Romney said. “It’s about 1118 words and I’m sure it will change before I’m finished because I haven’t passed it around to my family and friends and advisers to get their reaction. But I’ve only written one speech at this point.”

Is this the same as saying "I'm only going to write one speech?"

51 OhNoZombies!  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:04:31pm

re: #47 DisturbedEma

Wow, did someone let Jesus know? Everything I've read on him makes me believe he'd hate this. . .so WWJD now means what? Jesus will pack heat and show no mercy?

That's how I take it.

52 DisturbedEma  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:05:48pm

re: #50 b_snark

Ah, ok, so it was on his to do list. . .seems legit he spent election day writing his "just in case" speech. . .sorry, I'm induldging in conjecture, but Imma gonna call it and say the speech he gave was written on the fly and as a WTF moment for him.

53 Killgore Trout  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:06:29pm
But I’ve only written one speech at this point.”

Not a secret #1 : He's lying
Not a secret #2 : He doesn't write his own speeches
Not a secret #3: Neither does Obama.

54 DisturbedEma  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:07:05pm

re: #51 OhNoZombies!

In the laundrymat I used to go to, a local church would leave these booklets and comics that showed how evil and wrong Jews and Catholics are, I remember the one about the Rapture, and it was soooo confusing, so I went and read Revelations, and was even more confused. . .

55 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:07:07pm

re: #46 b_snark

For fuck sakes, did you read what Romney said?
His own words "But I’ve only written one speech at this point" implies he wasn't done after writing the one speech.

Yes, I did. Established fact: He went into the day without the concession speech written. Have fun trying to parse that into some kind of rumor. I'm done.

56 EPR-radar  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:07:18pm

re: #30 Cap'n Magic

The Cato folks are crowing about how this election vindicates Citizens United by saying: "See? Billions spent and its pretty much the same result as the last four years!" I'd call that analysis naive at best and cynically disingeneous at its worst-had we been in the same economic and political state that the EU is in presently, coupled with a more cunning wolf-in-sheepsclothing GOP nominee it would be an entirely different outcome. We dodged a bullet this time-next time we may not be so lucky.

Even with the present economy, a more competent R candidate could have won too easily. In fact, Romney the Clown may well have won without the self-inflicted wounds of: 1) 47%, 2) Let Detroit go bankrupt, 3) Ryan pick, and 4) no ground game. That an amazing amount of pure fail.

57 DisturbedEma  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:07:35pm

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

awww, but I love the sound of splitting hairs in the evening. . .:)

58 b_Snark  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:08:19pm

re: #49 DisturbedEma

so instead of following coverage, he was scratching away at the speech?

When was the question asked of Romney? Where in the article does it tell us the time of day? Obama was asked late in the day. Was that the same for Romney?

59 engineer cat  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:10:04pm

re: #47 DisturbedEma

Wow, did someone let Jesus know? Everything I've read on him makes me believe he'd hate this. . .so WWJD now means what? Jesus will pack heat and show no mercy?

it certainly shocked me to find out how many people believe that, and it certainly doesn't sound like anything that jesus would recognize, especially since he never preached original sin - the concept wasn't invented until st augustine

but the idea is that only non-christians believe that they can be right with god through good deeds, but that christians believe that to seek redemption through good deeds is a distraction, since the essence of the thing is to be forgiven for your sins, which you cannot avoid having since you are human

(probably most christians don't even realize that there is no being damned or saved, and no hell to be damned to, in judaism)

60 jaunte  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:10:08pm

Planned Parenthood saw near perfect return on election spending

According to The Sunlight Foundation:
The only outside groups that came close to beating Planned Parenthood's return on investment were Majority PAC, which fought for Democratic Senate candidates, with a success rate of about 88 percent, and the Service Employees International Union PEA-Federal, with about an 85 percent success rate.

More ROI percentages here:
Outside spenders' return on investment

61 Killgore Trout  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:11:58pm
Not a secret #3: Neither does Obama.

Jon Favreau

62 DisturbedEma  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:12:03pm

I remember this man's story

The comic is online but I won't post it here, it is really really harsh, and I'm not sure it's true. You can look it up.

63 efuseakay  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:13:48pm

If I were the President, I'd film a video of trying to call Boehner... trying to get a hold of him... then post it on YT for the whole world to see what kind of pricks he has to deal with.

64 DisturbedEma  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:13:49pm

re: #59 engineer cat

Ah, so does this explain how on one hand a person can accept Christ and be forgiven and go to heaven, but a rightous Muslim can't because he/she didn't say the "right" prayer?

Good deeds don't mean as much as the right words at the right time?

65 b_Snark  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:15:39pm

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

Yes, I did. Established fact: He went into the day without the concession speech written. Have fun trying to parse that into some kind of rumor. I'm done.

You haven't shown any evidence it's an established fact. That article shows it was an established fact that of the time he was asked the question he hadn't yet written a concession speech. It doesn't tell us a damn thing about what happened between the time the question was asked and the time results came in indicated a likely Obama win.

Maybe I'm being overly pedantic here, but I'd like to see a report analyzed critically for a change.

66 engineer cat  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:18:44pm

re: #64 DisturbedEma

Ah, so does this explain how on one hand a person can accept Christ and be forgiven and go to heaven, but a rightous Muslim can't because he/she didn't say the "right" prayer?

Good deeds don't mean as much as the right words at the right time?

that's right - if you put the question to somebody who believes this way, they will tell you that you will go to heaven if you *sincerely* repent your sins, no matter how bad they were, and they get uncomfortable about the question put the other way around, since they need to say on the other hand that an otherwise very righteous person who refused to "accept christ" will burn in hell

67 Tigger2005  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:21:02pm

re: #30 Cap'n Magic

The Cato folks are crowing about how this election vindicates Citizens United by saying: "See? Billions spent and its pretty much the same result as the last four years!" I'd call that analysis naive at best and cynically disingeneous at its worst-had we been in the same economic and political state that the EU is in presently, coupled with a more cunning wolf-in-sheepsclothing GOP nominee it would be an entirely different outcome. We dodged a bullet this time-next time we may not be so lucky.

Yes. Romney had zero charisma, little ability to connect. Without those billions, he might have been blown out of the water in Mondale-esque fashion--instead he put up a respectable showing. With those billions and a guy who can charm and bullshit with sincerity, they might have pulled out a win.

68 OhNoZombies!  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:21:46pm

re: #59 engineer cat

it certainly shocked me to find out how many people believe that, and it certainly doesn't sound like anything that jesus would recognize, especially since he never preached original sin - the concept wasn't invented until st augustine

but the idea is that only non-christians believe that they can be right with god through good deeds, but that christians believe that to seek redemption through good deeds is a distraction, since the essence of the thing is to be forgiven for your sins, which you cannot avoid having since you are human

(probably most christians don't even realize that there is no being damned or saved, and no hell to be damned to, in judaism)

I was told that original sin was washed away with the blood of Christ.
Like we got a do over.
Revelations, as I read it, can be interpreted in any way that suits your purpose.

69 Tigger2005  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:24:32pm

re: #66 engineer cat

that's right - if you put the question to somebody who believes this way, they will tell you that you will go to heaven if you *sincerely* repent your sins, no matter how bad they were, and they get uncomfortable about the question put the other way around, since they need to say on the other hand that an otherwise very righteous person who refused to "accept christ" will burn in hell

When you get right down to it, orthodox Christianity holds that the millions of Jews who died in the hell of the Nazi death camps are now burning in hell for eternity. By my lights, that makes their god more evil than Hitler.

70 EPR-radar  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:29:33pm

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

...

I have tried my best to speak to the concerns of wealth units. I have accepted as much of their money as current law would allow. I have met with them in their homes, and on their boats, and in their summer homes, and I have dined with them and invited their mining equipment to join me onstage for photographic opportunities. I have attempted to explain to commoners the great injustice of suggesting that wealth units pay at least the same percentage of their taxes as commoner units, even though wealth units are clearly both intellectually superior and, due to the necessity of keeping track of so many more homes and boats and airplanes, much harder workers. In the end, however, the commoners would not listen, because the commoners are too dimwitted to truly grasp these things. Even Mr. Trump, who we partnered with because of his years of experience in speaking to less wealthy, more dimwitted people, could not adequately make them understand.

...

Latest (and probably final) installment of the DKos Chronicles of Mitt

71 Cap'n Magic  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:32:41pm

re: #56 EPR-radar

The GOP could have had control of the Senate too, had it not been for the Akin, Mourdick (instead of Lugar) and the climate-change denier Mandel. Quite frankly, I'm hoping the GOP doubles down and becomes even more filled with grifters and cranks so that the Greens/Liberterians field congressional candidates that may actually stand a chance of winning.

72 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:32:51pm

You mean this hair tonic won't make my hair grow?

These pills won't enlarge my penis by 4 inches?

That Nigerian prince wanted my bank account information to steal money?

It only takes 3 licks to get to the center of a Tootsie-Roll Pop?

The polling numbers we made up wound up being false?

SHOCKED I TELL YOU, SHOCKED.

73 allegro  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:37:47pm

re: #68 OhNoZombies!

I was told that original sin was washed away with the blood of Christ.
Like we got a do over.
Revelations, as I read it, can be interpreted in any way that suits your purpose.

I was taught that we create our own heaven or hell here on earth. If we do right and treat people right, we will be treated right in return and have a good life. If we're mean, lie, and cheat, we will endure hell of our own making as we're shunned by others and punished for being assholes.

74 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:37:59pm

re: #7 allegro

It appears that Romney has had his first taste of a situation he can't control. Money, an important name, and a bullying nature couldn't pull this one off. The American people won this one.

I feel great relief.

It's exactly this. There has not been one situation in his entire life that wealth could not overcome. That and his family history have propelled him to his stature in life. He surrounded himself with what amount to bobbleheads, or what I call people who will always nod with approval at anything because they're too lazy or afraid of having to confront somebody on an issue.

And, of course, this will never change. Nobody will tell him 'he' lost. It will always be the fault of someone else. A mean Obama, a lazy base, lying pollsters, bad campaign managers.

75 BongCrodny  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:45:39pm

re: #53 Killgore Trout

Not a secret #1 : He's lying
Not a secret #2 : He doesn't write his own speeches
Not a secret #3: Neither does Obama.

Even worse.

How hard would it be to say "Hey, you -- write me a concession speech."

76 OhNoZombies!  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:48:22pm

re: #73 allegro

I was taught that we create our own heaven or hell here on earth. If we do right and treat people right, we will be treated right in return and have a good life. If we're mean, lie, and cheat, we will endure hell of our own making as we're shunned by others and punished for being assholes.

Oh absolutely, that's what I believe. That's the truth.

But I used to go to church with my grandparents out of curiosity. I was quoting the church people.

77 EPR-radar  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 7:49:18pm

re: #71 Cap'n Magic

The GOP could have had control of the Senate too, had it not been for the Akin, Mourdick (instead of Lugar) and the climate-change denier Mandel. Quite frankly, I'm hoping the GOP doubles down and becomes even more filled with grifters and cranks so that the Greens/Liberterians field congressional candidates that may actually stand a chance of winning.

I'm clueless about the Greens. In my limited experience, Libertarians are often cranks. One that I knew would twist any conversation relating to government activity to: 1) Pol Pot regime was evil, 2) Pol Pot regime was a government, 3) Therefore all government activity is evil (except, of course, the government machinery for enforcing property rights).

78 philosophus invidius  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 8:03:09pm

I don't believe Romney was shocked that he lost.

79 allegro  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 8:23:11pm

re: #78 philosophus invidius

I don't believe Romney was shocked that he lost.

I think he was completely blind-sided. I think that it never occurred to him that he would lose. Not him, the great Romney son who always had his way. The guy surrounded by yes-men who confirmed his status 24/7. This is not a man grounded in reality.

80 Batman  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 8:57:35pm

Haha the Romney campaign accidendally launched a victory "President-Elect Mitt Romney" website. [Link: news.yahoo.com...]

And I hear Dewey defeated Truman.

81 CarleeCork  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 9:47:30pm

re: #79 allegro

I think he was completely blind-sided. I think that it never occurred to him that he would lose. Not him, the great Romney son who always had his way. The guy surrounded by yes-men who confirmed his status 24/7. This is not a man grounded in reality.

This is not a party grounded in reality.

82 Olsonist  Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:18:33pm

Bush - Kerry = 50.73% - 48.27% = 2.46%
Obama - Romney = 50.46% - 47.99% = 2.47%

83 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 1:18:41am

re: #74 Ghost of Tom Joad

In some ways, a repeat of Meg Whitman's campaign for the California governorship. She spent tons of money, made friends with all the rich folks in California, but had little ability to connect with the average voter. And she had the added baggage of having an undocumented household worker.

84 Tigger2  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:53:11am

re: #26 jaunte

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Governance!

Those two don't even deserve to hold office.

85 S'latch  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 10:16:22am

It probably isn't possible to campaign unless you believe you can win. So, you probably have to convince yourself that you are going to win. Otherwise, you would probably crack up when you asked anyone to vote for you.


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