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1 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:18:22pm

Ilya Kuryaki--wasn't that the name of the character played by David McCallum on that old '60's TV show The Men From U.N.C.L.E.

How come they never made a movie of this old show? It totally kicked ass!

2 allegro  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:23:01pm

re: #1 Vicious Babushka

Ilya Kuryaki--wasn't that the name of the character played by David McCallum on that old '60's TV show The Men From U.N.C.L.E.

How come they never made a movie of this old show? It totally kicked ass!

Hahaha! We're showing our age cuz that's the first thing I thought of, too. I think the name was KuryakiN though. That was a great show.

3 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:27:02pm

re: #1 Vicious Babushka

Ilya Kuryaki--wasn't that the name of the character played by David McCallum on that old '60's TV show The Men From U.N.C.L.E.

How come they never made a movie of this old show? It totally kicked ass!

Right but his name was "Kuryakin." And this duo uses "Illya" for the rap cred.

The effects in this are great, though. I love that spiraling horn effect at about a minute in.

4 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:30:06pm

David McCallum is now playing the coroner "Ducky" in NCIS.

5 wrenchwench  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:31:34pm

As usual the video doesn't work for me, but I found it at YouTube. It didn't work for me there, either, but it works if I post it here. (I sometimes borrow a Preview window to play stuff from YouTube.)

6 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:32:46pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

David McCallum is now playing the coroner "Ducky" in NCIS.

Didn't he die at the end of last season? ("Ducky" I mean, not David McCallum)

7 Four More Tears  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:32:48pm

And as 9pm creeps closer the pain of having dropped Cable last night settles in...

8 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:33:31pm

re: #6 Vicious Babushka

Spoiler!

9 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:34:28pm

I haven't watched even one episode of NCIS this season, too busy watching baseball and then last week's election.

10 engineer cat  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:35:40pm

Man From U.N.C.L.E.

i was a kid in the early 60s just about the time when american children at least where i was stopped playing cowboys and indians and started to play spies

11 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:35:53pm

re: #7 Four More Tears

And as 9pm creeps closer the pain of having dropped Cable last night settles in...

HULU saved me last year.

12 Four More Tears  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:36:26pm

re: #11 OhNoZombies!

HULU saved me last year.

Does Hulu have Walking Dead? No? Well shut up then!

///

13 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:37:24pm

I like NCIS-Los Angeles much better than NCIS-DC. For one thing, "Ziva" totally does not speak like an Israeli. For another thing, LL Cool J is HOT! And that little old lady (Linda Hunt) KICKS ASS.

14 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:37:34pm

re: #12 Four More Tears

Does Hulu have Walking Dead? No? Well shut up then!

///

Whoops. It was VUDU...
Same difference.

15 wrenchwench  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:38:01pm
Frank says:

Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid.

These things aren't random, I'm convinced.

16 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:38:47pm

The hottest guy on TV is Shemar Moore from "Criminal Minds." MMMM I loves me some eye candy.

17 wrenchwench  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:39:13pm

re: #13 Vicious Babushka

I like NCIS-Los Angeles much better than NCIS-DC. For one thing, "Ziva" totally does not speak like an Israeli. For another thing, LL Cool J is HOT! And that little old lady (Linda Hunt) KICKS ASS.

Linda Hunt is the best.

18 Four More Tears  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:39:45pm

re: #14 OhNoZombies!

Whoops. It was VUDU...
Same difference.

$42 for the HD season pass? Hrm.

19 b_Snark  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:40:35pm

re: #16 Vicious Babushka

The hottest guy on TV is Shemar Moore from "Criminal Minds." MMMM I loves me some eye candy.

Wifey agrees with you.

Grumble, grumble...

20 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:40:54pm

I knew what you were talking about, by the way.
Kinda rude, but I'll be over it at around 9 p.m..
//

21 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:40:55pm

That reminds me. The Walking Dead tonight is a can't miss, after last week's harrowing and intense episode. Got the EyeTV set to record.

22 Four More Tears  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:42:34pm

re: #20 OhNoZombies!

I knew what you were talking about, by the way.
Kinda rude, but I'll be over it at around 9 p.m..
//

re: #21 Charles Johnson

That reminds me. The Walking Dead tonight is a can't miss, after last week's harrowing and intense episode. Got the EyeTV set to record.

Keep rubbing it in...

23 wrenchwench  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:47:00pm
24 Four More Tears  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:51:56pm

Right wing sites are such a joy to read these days.

25 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:52:43pm

re: #12 Four More Tears

Does Hulu have Walking Dead? No? Well shut up then!

///

Why'd you drop your cable?

26 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:53:35pm

re: #23 wrenchwench

Image: Ktvf3j1IjECdUyKzF_fPjw2.jpg

Later, lizards.

Cuteness overload!

27 Four More Tears  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:03:18pm

re: #25 Dark_Falcon

Why'd you drop your cable?

It was a business decision...

That's okay. Found a live stream.

28 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:05:10pm

Man, what an opening scene.

29 Varek Raith  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:05:42pm

Dammit!
Haven't caught up on Walking Dead yet...

30 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:07:19pm

re: #29 Varek Raith

Dammit!
Haven't caught up on Walking Dead yet...

I don't watch the show at all. The whole premise is just too depressing for me.

31 Varek Raith  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:09:51pm

re: #30 Dark_Falcon

I don't watch the show at all. The whole premise is just too depressing for me.

Cheer up.

32 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:10:03pm

re: #30 Dark_Falcon

I don't watch the show at all. The whole premise is just too depressing for me.

I hate cooking shows.

33 Four More Tears  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:19:21pm
34 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:21:20pm

re: #31 Varek Raith

Cheer up.

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I'm OK tonight:

35 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:22:07pm

re: #30 Dark_Falcon

I don't watch the show at all. The whole premise is just too depressing for me.

Even if we had a TV, I'd not bother. I stopped caring about zombies a long time ago. Now if they'd make a show like Blake's 7 again, I might consider getting a TV...

36 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:23:00pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

Man, what an opening scene.

I stopped watching at the end of the first season. I think I made a mistake, and am taking measures to get caught up.

37 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:25:01pm

Hey, DF! Here's something to cheer you up while you wait to see the Texan's whoop on the Bears ;)

38 Four More Tears  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:27:45pm

Rick looks like Nicholson in The Shining...

39 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:28:14pm

re: #37 William Barnett-Lewis

Here's something to cheer you up while you wait to see the Texan's whoop on the Bears ;)

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Eh, it's tied 3-3. It's a defense-heavy game. This is because its raining here in Chicagoland and has been since around 4pm.

40 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:30:02pm

Here's a video that fits the weather for the Bears-Texans game, with a little tie-in for Varek:

41 Mattand  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:30:39pm

re: #33 Four More Tears

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I would use any empty cups to catch all of the tears being shed in that ballroom and bathe in them.

42 Varek Raith  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:31:30pm

re: #40 Dark_Falcon

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Bam!

43 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:31:44pm

I just can't get into zombie shows.

44 makeitstop  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:32:58pm

Who is this guy, and what has he done with the real Bill Kristol?

“It won’t kill the country if we raise taxes a little bit on millionaires,” he said on “Fox News Sunday.” “It really won’t, I don’t think. I don’t really understand why Republicans don’t take Obama’s offer.”

“Really? The Republican Party is going to fall on its sword to defend a bunch of millionaires, half of whom voted Democratic and half of whom live in Hollywood and are hostile?” he asked.

45 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:34:53pm

re: #33 Four More Tears

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That's a good grab by the photographer. Tells lots about the story being illustrated - very good work indeed.

I should have been a pj instead of joining the army... Invested in a F2 & a 50/1.4 and gone off to seek a few bucks in interesting places.

46 Four More Tears  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:34:59pm

re: #44 makeitstop

“It really won’t, I don’t think. I don’t really understand why Republicans don’t take Obama’s offer.”

Uhh... because of people like you. Any other questions?

Seriously this complete abrogation of personal responsibility kind of disgusts me. None of these people can ever admit having been wrong. Ever.

47 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:35:10pm

re: #44 makeitstop

Who is this guy, and what has he done with the real Bill Kristol?

Sometimes getting shellacked brings clarity instead of butthurt.

48 makeitstop  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:38:12pm

re: #46 Four More Tears

Uhh... because of people like you. Any other questions?

Seriously this complete abrogation of personal responsibility kind of disgusts me. None of these people can ever admit having been wrong. Ever.

Very similar to Frank Luntz saying conservatives should be outraged at Fox News lying to them.

He spent years helping build that GOP Alternate Reality Bubble, and he actually has the temerity to go on Fox News and act like he's never been there before.

49 Four More Tears  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:40:39pm

re: #48 makeitstop

Very similar to Frank Luntz saying conservatives should be outraged at Fox News lying to them.

He spent years helping build that GOP Alternate Reality Bubble, and he actually has the temerity to go on Fox News and act like he's never been there before.

Waiting for them to start attacking Obama for not getting immigration reform done yet...

50 Four More Tears  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:41:53pm

There's a lot I like about Ezra, but he doesn't really make for gripping TV. He needs to work on that.

51 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:42:00pm

Oops, 10 to 3 now. Don't worry, DF, worst case you'll probably have a rematch in February & I'll root for da Bears then.

52 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:45:44pm
53 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:46:16pm

re: #51 William Barnett-Lewis

Oops, 10 to 3 now. Don't worry, DF, worst case you'll probably have a rematch in February & I'll root for da Bears then.

You're only ragging on me because the Packers are on their bye week. That and that the Lions got knocked out of the hunt for the postseason by the Vikings.

54 darthstar  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:46:55pm

Hey everyone...good weekend up in Tahoe. Got a little bit of snow Friday night.

Image: 64591_10151262084023024_1632039304_n.jpg

First time driving the 328i in deep snow...handled remakably well, though it was snorkle driving going up to the mountain as the snow was deep enough to hit the front grill.

55 Varek Raith  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:50:25pm

re: #54 darthstar

Hey everyone...good weekend up in Tahoe. Got a little bit of snow Friday night.

Image: 64591_10151262084023024_1632039304_n.jpg

First time driving the 328i in deep snow...handled remakably well, though it was snorkle driving going up to the mountain as the snow was deep enough to hit the front grill.

15 miles in the snow!

56 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:50:52pm

re: #54 darthstar

Hey everyone...good weekend up in Tahoe. Got a little bit of snow Friday night.

Image: 64591_10151262084023024_1632039304_n.jpg

First time driving the 328i in deep snow...handled remakably well, though it was snorkle driving going up to the mountain as the snow was deep enough to hit the front grill.

I hate driving in snow. Last year I was on the I-80 driving back from New York and it started snowing really hard. I pulled off the road in checked into a motel. Good thing I did.

57 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:51:44pm

re: #51 William Barnett-Lewis

You gotta give Cutler credit for that 12 yard run he just put in to get the first down. Especially after taking a brutal hit like that on the previous play.

58 Varek Raith  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:51:58pm

snow/rain + some drivers = normal road.
e_e

59 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:52:20pm

re: #44 makeitstop

Who is this guy, and what has he done with the real Bill Kristol?

Dark's somewhat right, defeat can knock sense (even temporarily) into ideologues heads. But it's also partly that the GOP right now is in a very untenable position. They're not going to get an extension of the top rates, because Obama will veto it. And they're the ones who will lose the most if we go over the cliff because they refused to deal.

60 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:54:09pm
61 darthstar  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:57:07pm

re: #56 Vicious Babushka

I hate driving in snow. Last year I was on the I-80 driving back from New York and it started snowing really hard. I pulled off the road in checked into a motel. Good thing I did.

Anybody who says they 'like' driving in the snow is lying. I love going up to the snow, skiing on it, and looking at it...but even with all wheel drive I don't like driving in it.

62 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:57:44pm

re: #59 Targetpractice

Dark's somewhat right, defeat can knock sense (even temporarily) into ideologues heads. But it's also partly that the GOP right now is in a very untenable position. They're not going to get an extension of the top rates, because Obama will veto it. And they're the ones who will lose the most if we go over the cliff because they refused to deal.

Decent points. With that as his mindset, frankly Bill Kirstol may think the best option is for the Republican party to simply ignore its base, cut a deal, and then hope the base isn't still sore about it in 2014. That has a decent chance of working.

63 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:57:46pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

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Erick Erickson?

64 freetoken  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:57:48pm

re: #50 Four More Tears

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There's a lot I like about Ezra, but he doesn't really make for gripping TV. He needs to work on that.

He needs a co-host.

65 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:58:44pm

re: #61 darthstar

Anybody who says they 'like' driving in the snow is lying. I love going up to the snow, skiing on it, and looking at it...but even with all wheel drive I don't like driving in it.

Driving on snow is not the problem, the problem is driving on ICE which is underneath the snow.

66 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:59:45pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

Decent points. With that as his mindset, frankly Bill Kirstol may think the best option is for the Republican party to simply ignore its base, cut a deal, and then hope the base isn't still sore about it in 2014. That has a decent chance of working.

I've heard the suggestion made that what the parties should do is just let Jan 1st come, let the rate cuts expire, then vote upon tax cuts for the middle class. That way, neither can accuse the other of voting to raise taxes.

Not that I expect that to happen, but I consider it probably the best scenario possible.

67 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:00:36pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

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They see their gravy train leaving the station with out them after telling the GOP party faithful for so long that Romney was gonna send President Obama packing, that there was no way that Mitt could lose.

68 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:00:46pm

Grrrr. Zedushka is reading a bunch of Ann Coulter. I tell him DO NOT BRING THAT SHIT TO THE DINNER TABLE. He can go read them outside where he sneaks cigarettes. I would totally throw all those books in the trash except that they are from the library.

69 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:01:22pm

re: #65 Vicious Babushka

I remember when I was working in King of Prussia, PA and it was snowing. I waited until the PA Turnpike opened up and then I went home. The words Plow Train were music to my ears.

70 freetoken  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:01:42pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

Andrew Soltis then goes on to explain why pawns are so important in chess strategy. The answer is simple. Pawns are very immobile, almost motionless for the majority of the game. But it is this immobility that gives the position its character. The pawn structure lays out the terrain for the coming battle, providing lines for your army. Pawn Structure Chess is more about characteristic, specific structures that can arise from certain openings and the basic plans for each side.

71 Four More Tears  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:02:56pm

re: #68 Vicious Babushka

Grrrr. Zedushka is reading a bunch of Ann Coulter. I tell him DO NOT BRING THAT SHIT TO THE DINNER TABLE. He can go read them outside where he sneaks cigarettes. I would totally throw all those books in the trash except that they are from the library.

Well, at least she isn't making any money off that.

72 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:03:07pm

re: #53 Dark_Falcon

You're only ragging on me because the Packers are on their bye week. That and that the Lions got knocked out of the hunt for the postseason by the Vikings.

Well, those help, though Detroit is still good enough to play spoiler on any given Sunday. Seriously though, I think Chicago's got the best chance of a successful run at the moment. I'd rather see them in than some others I can think of ... especially anything wearing purple ;)

73 andres  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:04:10pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

Decent points. With that as his mindset, frankly Bill Kirstol may think the best option is for the Republican party to simply ignore its base, cut a deal, and then hope the base isn't still sore about it in 2014. That has a decent chance of working.

At this point, the Republican party has to be willing to lose (seats) in order to gain (sanity).

74 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:04:32pm
75 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:04:37pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

Decent points. With that as his mindset, frankly Bill Kirstol may think the best option is for the Republican party to simply ignore its base, cut a deal, and then hope the base isn't still sore about it in 2014. That has a decent chance of working.

Plus they have 2 years to lie convince them about it.

76 b_Snark  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:05:05pm

re: #61 darthstar

Anybody who says they 'like' driving in the snow is lying. I love going up to the snow, skiing on it, and looking at it...but even with all wheel drive I don't like driving in it.

I like driving in the snow. Up here we have 6 months of the stuff.

77 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:07:04pm

re: #74 Vicious Babushka

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More like "gives away 2 million pieces of circular cardboard because no-one in their right mind will pay money for it.". He'd have no problems if they actually made something edible. Hell, Little Cesar's is 1000x better and that's as low rent as I'll go.

78 bratwurst  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:07:04pm
79 b_Snark  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:07:10pm

re: #65 Vicious Babushka

Driving on snow is not the problem, the problem is driving on ICE which is underneath the snow.

Have you never purposely spun a 360 or driven sideways down the block?

80 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:07:15pm

re: #70 freetoken

Politics in relation to chess... well cited!

Still, memory doesn't count with chess pawns, while it does with humans. I'd like a variation of the idea TP discussed:

Pass a short term fix on tings like the 'Medicare doc fix' and any matters that need to be done to allow people to file their taxes. That still lets the tax cuts expire. Use Christmas break to hold secret meetings, in which the deal will be hammered out. Then come back in January and pass the deal swiftly. A fast passage would move too fast for either sides grassroots to mount significant opposition. Strident base voters would shriek, but others would be glad the matter was resolved.

81 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:09:30pm

re: #74 Vicious Babushka

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That douche said it will cost him 15 to 20 cents more per pizza for health insurance.

82 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:10:35pm

re: #73 andres

At this point, the Republican party has to be willing to lose (seats) in order to gain (sanity).

The actual vote on the deal would be 'kabuki', allowing those in the closest districts on both sides to vote against it if they need to, though some will vote for it since their voters won't mind. Done right, the most strident partisans' votes won't be needed.

83 freetoken  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:11:01pm

re: #80 Dark_Falcon

My point is the whole religious right/ Tea Party pawns are very immobile (as far as their beliefs and votes), and that immobility shapes the political landscape in the US, within which the wheelers and dealers will cut their deals.

The Kristol thing about letting the Bush tax cuts expire on the wealthiest is like a minor gambit in chess - something with minor downside risks but more meaningful upside payoffs.

84 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:11:18pm

re: #80 Dark_Falcon

Politics in relation to chess... well cited!

Still, memory doesn't count with chess pawns, while it does with humans. I'd like a variation of the idea TP discussed:

Pass a short term fix on tings like the 'Medicare doc fix' and any matters that need to be done to allow people to file their taxes. That still lets the tax cuts expire. Use Christmas break to hold secret meetings, in which the deal will be hammered out. Then come back in January and pass the deal swiftly. A fast passage would move too fast for either sides grassroots to mount significant opposition. Strident base voters would shriek, but others would be glad the matter was resolved.

Plausible, but I foresee Boehner having a mini-rebellion on his hand. The natives (TPers) are very restless and an attempt to ram through such a bill would incite no small amount of anger. It's largely a question of is Boehner willing to put his speakership on the line to reach any kind of deal with Democrats.

85 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:12:14pm

Erick Erickson's path to political success? Throw more tantrums.

Dear Conservative Organizations

...

We will not support the re-election of any Republican Governor who creates a healthcare exchange in his or her state. Further, we will oppose for the nomination to the Presidency, any Republican who creates a healthcare exchange in his or her state.

In fact, I will go first.

Should any Republican Governor set up a health care exchange in his or her state, I’ll support their primary challenger and I sure will not support him or her for President in 2016.

Now it is your turn.

86 freetoken  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:12:55pm

re: #85 Gus

Double-down gambler's mindset.

87 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:13:58pm

re: #86 freetoken

Double-down gambler's mindset.

With that little plan of his I will only assume then by 2015 the only acceptable Republican will be a Confederate.

88 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:14:10pm

re: #80 Dark_Falcon

Politics in relation to chess... well cited!

Still, memory doesn't count with chess pawns, while it does with humans. I'd like a variation of the idea TP discussed:

Pass a short term fix on tings like the 'Medicare doc fix' and any matters that need to be done to allow people to file their taxes. That still lets the tax cuts expire. Use Christmas break to hold secret meetings, in which the deal will be hammered out. Then come back in January and pass the deal swiftly. A fast passage would move too fast for either sides grassroots to mount significant opposition. Strident base voters would shriek, but others would be glad the matter was resolved.

That makes too much sense to happen, alas. Of course if the Senate Majority Leader really does massively change the filibuster rules (which only needs a simple majority to achieve) all bets are off. Fear has a remarkable ability to concentrate even the most recalcitrant mind... ;)

89 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:14:30pm

re: #84 Targetpractice

Plausible, but I foresee Boehner having a mini-rebellion on his hand. The natives (TPers) are very restless and an attempt to ram through such a bill would incite no small amount of anger. It's largely a question of is Boehner willing to put his speakership on the line to reach any kind of deal with Democrats.

Hence your idea's merit, holding the vote after Boehner is voted back in as Speaker. It would still only work if he can be somewhat assured he would be thrown out. If it looks like he'd lose his Speakership, then he'll just hold firm.

90 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:14:39pm

re: #87 Gus

With that little plan of his I will only assume then by 2015 the only acceptable Republican will be a Confederate.

Rick Perry... Rick Scott come to mind.

91 freetoken  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:15:49pm

re: #87 Gus

With that little plan of his I will only assume then by 2015 the only acceptable Republican will be a Confederate.

And General Lee surrendered, which disqualifies even him.

92 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:16:58pm

re: #81 Gus

That douche said it will cost him 15 to 20 cents more per pizza for health insurance.

If $.20 makes your pie too expensive, I'd be worried about what kind of garbage I was feeding people than I would be about those customers and workers actually having health care.

93 jaunte  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:17:41pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

Funny how the same right wing pundits who spent 4 years inciting hatred against Obama are now pretending to be voices of reason.

Texas Megachurch Pastor Says Obama Will 'Pave Way' for Antichrist

"I'm not saying he is the Antichrist, cause that would be unreasonable. He's just paving the way for the Antichrist. And did I mention evil?"

94 Four More Tears  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:17:45pm

re: #85 Gus

Don't you dare help your constituents get healthcare coverage!

95 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:18:09pm

And Jay Cutler will not play in the 2nd half, the nasty hit he took having caused a concussion.

96 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:18:19pm

re: #94 Four More Tears

Don't you dare help your constituents get healthcare coverage!

Winning.

97 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:18:23pm

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

Hence your idea's merit, holding the vote after Boehner is voted back in as Speaker. It would still only work if he can be somewhat assured he would be thrown out. If it looks like he'd lose his Speakership, then he'll just hold firm.

I don't expect to see a quick resolution to this. If anything, I think it might be of more assurance to the market if both parties announced that they would not make any deal until after Jan 1st, with the final deal set to take effect retroactively. Avoid the pressure of a deadline, the pressure of a market scared witless that nothing will be accomplished, and also the pressure by the party faithful on both sides not to waver under the pressure of the first two.

98 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:19:12pm

re: #83 freetoken

My point is the whole religious right/ Tea Party pawns are very immobile (as far as their beliefs and votes), and that immobility shapes the political landscape in the US, within which the wheelers and dealers will cut their deals.

The Kristol thing about letting the Bush tax cuts expire on the wealthiest is like a minor gambit in chess - something with minor downside risks but more meaningful upside payoffs.

Let's call it the Kobayashi Maru Gambit then... ;)

99 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:20:08pm

re: #97 Targetpractice

I don't expect to see a quick resolution to this. If anything, I think it might be of more assurance to the market if both parties announced that they would not make any deal until after Jan 1st, with the final deal set to take effect retroactively. Avoid the pressure of a deadline, the pressure of a market scared witless that nothing will be accomplished, and also the pressure by the party faithful on both sides not to waver under the pressure of the first two.

I don't agree. A quick resolution is the only likely near-term resolution. Anything else ends with the the bases of both parties forcing a stalemate, neither side able to move for fear of an enraged base.

100 dragonath  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:20:33pm

re: #93 jaunte

Texas Megachurch Pastor Says Obama Will 'Pave Way' for Antichrist

Isn't that what they've been waiting for? C'mon bring it on already.

101 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:21:17pm

Ann also links to Robert Stacy McCain.

Winning.

102 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:21:21pm

re: #91 freetoken

And General Lee surrendered, which disqualifies even him.

I know! We'll nominate Longstreet for President and Darwin for Veep!
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What?

103 Four More Tears  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:21:36pm
104 Four More Tears  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:22:21pm
105 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:22:36pm

re: #101 Gus

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Ann also links to Robert Stacy McCain.

Winning.

So I've got to ask you: Is Warlock Napalm the same thing as Burning Stupid?

106 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:22:58pm

re: #99 Dark_Falcon

I don't agree. A quick resolution is the only likely near-term resolution. Anything else ends with the the bases of both parties forcing a stalemate, neither side able to move for fear of an enraged base.

I don't foresee a quick deal doing anything but giving both sides an excuse for why the deal ended up pleasing nobody. "I was pressured into it!" is going to be the rallying cry for both sides to pick it apart and for a lot of bad blood to set in when time comes for a long-term deal.

107 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:23:06pm

re: #103 Four More Tears

1,000 years of darkness!

The dead rising from the grave!

108 b_Snark  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:23:26pm

re: #100 dragonath

Isn't that what they've been waiting for? C'mon bring it on already.

I wonder if people have rapture insurance on their mortgages.

109 dragonath  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:23:40pm

I thought McArdle was smarmy, that was until I read Althouse.

110 Mattand  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:23:53pm

re: #103 Four More Tears

1,000 years of darkness!

Plagues of locusts! Cats and dogs, living together!

At least according to Dickless over there.

111 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:24:15pm

re: #95 Dark_Falcon

And Jay Cutler will not play in the 2nd half, the nasty hit he took having caused a concussion.

That the NFL is finally taking that serious is a good thing. OTOH, losing him is not going to help Chicago's chances.

112 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:24:35pm

re: #107 Dark_Falcon

The dead rising from the grave!

Human sacrifice!

113 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:24:37pm
114 jaunte  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:24:44pm

re: #103 Four More Tears

1,000 years of darkness!

"It's better to light a candle than to curse North Texas."

115 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:26:21pm

re: #111 William Barnett-Lewis

That the NFL is finally taking that serious is a good thing. OTOH, losing him is not going to help Chicago's chances.

The Bears can afford to lose this game. They can't afford to lose Cutler. But given that the hit that knocked him out was illegal, I say the guy who did it should be suspended until Cutler can return.

116 calochortus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:27:07pm

re: #74 Vicious Babushka

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re: #81 Gus

That douche said it will cost him 15 to 20 cents more per pizza for health insurance.

And he's cutting hours on employees now to avoid having to provide insurance in 2014? Great business plan he's got there.

117 BongCrodny  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:27:35pm

re: #68 Vicious Babushka

Grrrr. Zedushka is reading a bunch of Ann Coulter. I tell him DO NOT BRING THAT SHIT TO THE DINNER TABLE. He can go read them outside where he sneaks cigarettes. I would totally throw all those books in the trash except that they are from the library.

Did you read about the recent flap at Fordham College? Basically, Fordham College Republicans invited Coulter to speak on campus, but didn't expect the shitstorm that followed, so they "uninvited" her.

Here's the text of an e-mail that Father Joseph McShane, Fordham College's President, wrote about the Coulter appearance. It's pretty awesome:

The College Republicans, a student club at Fordham University, has invited Ann Coulter to speak on campus on November 29. The event is funded through student activity fees and is not open to the public nor the media. Student groups are allowed, and encouraged, to invite speakers who represent diverse, and sometimes unpopular, points of view, in keeping with the canons of academic freedom. Accordingly, the University will not block the College Republicans from hosting their speaker of choice on campus.

To say that I am disappointed with the judgment and maturity of the College Republicans, however, would be a tremendous understatement. There are many people who can speak to the conservative point of view with integrity and conviction, but Ms. Coulter is not among them. Her rhetoric is often hateful and needlessly provocative — more heat than light — and her message is aimed squarely at the darker side of our nature.

As members of a Jesuit institution, we are called upon to deal with one another with civility and compassion, not to sling mud and impugn the motives of those with whom we disagree or to engage in racial or social stereotyping. In the wake of several bias incidents last spring, I told the University community that I hold out great contempt for anyone who would intentionally inflict pain on another human being because of their race, gender, sexual orientation, or creed.

“Disgust” was the word I used to sum up my feelings about those incidents. Hate speech, name-calling, and incivility are completely at odds with the Jesuit ideals that have always guided and animated Fordham.

Still, to prohibit Ms. Coulter from speaking at Fordham would be to do greater violence to the academy, and to the Jesuit tradition of fearless and robust engagement. Preventing Ms. Coulter from speaking would counter one wrong with another. The old saw goes that the answer to bad speech is more speech. This is especially true at a university, and I fully expect our students, faculty, alumni, parents, and staff to voice their opposition, civilly and respectfully, and forcefully.

The College Republicans have unwittingly provided Fordham with a test of its character: do we abandon our ideals in the face of repugnant speech and seek to stifle Ms. Coulter’s (and the student organizers’) opinions, or do we use her appearance as an opportunity to prove that our ideas are better and our faith in the academy — and one another — stronger? We have chosen the latter course, confident in our community and in the power of decency and reason to overcome hatred and prejudice.

Joseph M. McShane, S.J., President

118 b_Snark  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:27:38pm

re: #111 William Barnett-Lewis

That the NFL is finally taking that serious is a good thing. OTOH, losing him is not going to help Chicago's chances.

With the money invested in the nfl they could enlarge the players skulls and fill the gap with padding.

119 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:27:43pm

re: #113 Gus

America is running out of money.

Of the Top Ten, two of them are surnamed Koch and 4 are Waltons. Just saying.

120 dragonath  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:28:47pm

I have it on good authority that John Schnatter is the Antichrist and he's trying to rapture us with his so-called "Pizza".

121 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:28:54pm

re: #119 Dark_Falcon

Of the Top Ten, two of them are surnamed Koch and 4 are Waltons. Just saying.

Seems oddly fitting that I'd read that list just after watching a marathon of History Channel's latest miniseries, The Men Who Built America.

122 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:29:28pm

re: #115 Dark_Falcon

The Bears can afford to lose this game. They can't afford to lose Cutler. But given that the hit that knocked him out was illegal, I say the guy who did it should be suspended until Cutler can return.

That would be a good rule to implement. Send an email to Peter King at SI - I could see that tickling his fancy and he has enough real world pull to get it considered.

123 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:31:26pm

re: #117 BongCrodny

The Jesuits & the Franciscans remain the best things about the Roman version of Christianity.

124 BongCrodny  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:31:28pm

re: #93 jaunte

Texas Megachurch Pastor Says Obama Will 'Pave Way' for Antichrist

You would think being the most powerful man on the planet he could have done that in his first term.

125 jaunte  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:33:16pm

re: #124 BongCrodny

I like the way Jeffress tries to be cautious and thoughtful about the issue.

126 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:34:03pm

re: #119 Dark_Falcon

Of the Top Ten, two of them are surnamed Koch and 4 are Waltons. Just saying.

That is everything ill in America today in a nutshell. What's the percent of total wealth held by those 6?

127 Varek Raith  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:34:46pm

The anti-Christ doesn't, nor ever will, exist.
;)

128 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:35:13pm

re: #93 jaunte

Texas Megachurch Pastor Says Obama Will 'Pave Way' for Antichrist

If we're lucky. That would make life more exciting.

//

129 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:35:37pm

Does it come with tentacled monsters?

130 Varek Raith  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:36:08pm

re: #129 Gus

Does it come with tentacled monsters?

You want the hentai section.
Aisle 5.

131 darthstar  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:36:19pm

re: #127 Varek Raith

The anti-Christ doesn't, nor ever will, exist.
;)

You mean I wasted $39.95 on this ordination?

132 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:36:19pm

re: #129 Gus

Does it come with tentacled monsters?

Sorry, Cthulhu's still sleeping off the partying from Election Night.

//

133 dragonath  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:37:47pm

Speaking of which, I wonder how America's Greatest Artist Jon McNaughton is taking this election. I can't wait to see more masterpieces.

134 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:38:08pm

re: #127 Varek Raith

The anti-Christ doesn't, nor ever will, exist.
;)

Just as a reminder, there are some of us Christians who can easily agree with that. FWIW.

135 engineer cat  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:38:08pm

re: #126 William Barnett-Lewis

That is everything ill in America today in a nutshell. What's the percent of total wealth held by those 6?

not enough to keep them from being mammals, but they're working on it

136 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:39:11pm

re: #132 Targetpractice

Sorry, Cthulhu's still sleeping off the partying from Election Night.

//

How come they've never made a really good movie about Cthulhu? Copyright? ;)

137 Interesting Times  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:39:45pm

re: #133 dragonath

Speaking of which, I wonder how America's Greatest Artist Jon McNaughton is taking this election. I can't wait to see more masterpieces.

Image: 640px-One_Nation_Under_Cthulhu_9704.jpg

138 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:40:49pm

re: #122 William Barnett-Lewis

That would be a good rule to implement. Send an email to Peter King at SI - I could see that tickling his fancy and he has enough real world pull to get it considered.

Done. The text of that email is below:

Dear Mr. King,

Some friends and I were chatting online during tonight's Bears game and they suggested I email you regarding an idea that I floated, in order to see if it would find your favor. As you know already, Jay Cutler suffered a concussion tonight as the result of an illegal hit. It was my idea that the defender who hit Cutler illegally should be suspended until Cutler is able to play again. That would establish a more effective deterrent to illegal hits and might help prevent concussions. Please feel free to reply to me if you wish.

Best Regards,

[name redacted]

139 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:41:30pm

Anyone see a Saw movie? Not me. Saw some clips recently. Damn crazy.

140 darthstar  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:41:31pm
141 darthstar  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:41:56pm

re: #139 Gus

Anyone see a Saw movie? Not me. Saw some clips recently. Damn crazy.

I watched Fox News on election night...does that count?

142 jaunte  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:41:59pm

re: #133 dragonath

Speaking of which, I wonder how America's Greatest Artist Jon McNaughton is taking this election. I can't wait to see more masterpieces.

He has a Twitter account:
[Link: twitter.com...]

143 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:42:14pm

re: #141 darthstar

I watched Fox News on election night...does that count?

Nope.

144 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:42:44pm

re: #138 Dark_Falcon

Done. The text of that email is below:

Excellent! I'll follow up with one to him myself.

145 dragonath  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:42:45pm

re: #142 jaunte

It's Zen, man!

146 The Mountain That Blogs  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:43:03pm

re: #140 darthstar

47.9 is what Bush got in 2000.

147 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:43:06pm

What a catch by Brandon Marshall! Even without Cutler, Marshall proves his worth. And what a throw by Campbell to get the ball there.

148 jaunte  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:43:31pm

[Link: twitter.com...]

Jon Mcnaughton apparently has no children with pre-existing conditions.

149 darthstar  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:43:35pm

re: #138 Dark_Falcon

Done. The text of that email is below:

Nice letter, Dark. I watched that play - and the replays...the human skull (and the helmet protecting it) isn't supposed to get rattled like that.

150 Mattand  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:43:45pm

re: #133 dragonath

Speaking of which, I wonder how America's Greatest Artist Jon McNaughton is taking this election. I can't wait to see more masterpieces.

If this painting is any indication, not well.

151 darthstar  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:44:19pm

re: #143 Gus

Nope.

Oh well...I did catch the last ten minutes of a Saw movie once...made me glad I missed the first 80.

152 darthstar  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:45:17pm

re: #150 Mattand

If this painting is any indication, not well.

That's one fucked up individual.

153 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:45:24pm

The Massachusetts jinx!

154 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:46:09pm

re: #136 Gus

How come they've never made a really good movie about Cthulhu? Copyright? ;)

Last I checked, there's still a lot of dispute over whether the copyright on most of Lovecraft's post-'23 stories, including "The Call of Cthulhu" are in the public domain or not.

155 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:47:14pm

re: #149 darthstar

Nice letter, Dark. I watched that play - and the replays...the human skull (and the helmet protecting it) isn't supposed to get rattled like that.

True. But even so Cutler was better protected than Chicago Blackhawk Marion Hossa was earlier this year when he took a blatantly illegal hit from a member of the Arizona Coyotes during the playoffs. A hit bad enough he still had not recovered by this summer and that the Coyote in question will spend the first to games of the next NHL season, whenever it is, even if next year, suspended. Football helmets are much better protection than hockey helmets.

156 Mattand  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:47:20pm

re: #152 darthstar

That's one fucked up individual.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess he's not interested in bipartisanship. Or psychiatric help.

157 makeitstop  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:48:32pm

re: #150 Mattand

If this painting is any indication, not well.

He seems to be a pretty gullible dude.

158 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:48:47pm

re: #153 Gus

The Massachusetts jinx!

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Massachusetts is run by Commies, that's the connection! Santorum 2016!!1

159 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:50:02pm

re: #157 makeitstop

He seems to be a pretty gullible dude.

Yeah because the symbolism he's showing there came with bipartisan effort. Instead this is close to blaming Obama for 9/11. Or something.

160 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:50:30pm

re: #144 William Barnett-Lewis

Excellent! I'll follow up with one to him myself.

ok, DF, here's what I sent:

Watching the Chicago/Houston game and chatting over the internet with a good friend, I was highly upset by the illegal hit that took Cutler out of the game. I'm a Packer fan and half the fun of watching a Bears game with my friend is giving him grief. This, however, remains out of the bounds of sportsmanship.

He commented that it might prove to be a real deterrent if the a player responsible for an illegal hit had to sit for the _same_ amount of time that the injured player was forced to be out of the game. I thought this was an excellent idea and that he should tell you so. I also said I'd write as well.

You have an ear at the NFL that the fans do not. Please help us to be heard in this issue.

Thank you.

161 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:50:57pm

Spokesman: House majority leader knew of Petraeus matter in October

House majority leader Eric Cantor talked to an FBI official in late October about former CIA Director David Petraeus' involvement in an affair, a spokesman for the congressman told CNN Sunday.

Doug Heye said Cantor had a conversation with the whistleblower about the affair and national security concerns involved in the matter.

The New York Times reported Saturday that on October 31, Cantor's chief of staff phoned the FBI to inform the agency about the call between the congressman and the FBI official. The Times reported Cantor learned of the whistleblower through Rep. Dave Reichert, R-Washington.

A spokeswoman for Reichert told CNN Sunday that the Times article was accurate but that the congressman had no further comment on his involvement in the case.

Petraeus' affair came to light when an FBI investigation looked into a complaint that his biographer, Paula Broadwell, was sending harassing e-mails to another woman close to the retired four-star general, a U.S. official told CNN Saturday.

162 The Mountain That Blogs  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:51:37pm

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

It continually boggles my mind that goalies didn't wear masks full time until the 70s, and didn't wear them at all until 1959.

163 engineer cat  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:51:54pm

re: #152 darthstar

That's one fucked up individual.

i wonder where one would display such lurid abominations

surely not the living room

164 dragonath  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:52:05pm

re: #150 Mattand

If this painting is any indication, not well.

Whoa, a handy collection to every fauxtrage in the last four years...!

lol at his description of Bill Clinton.

165 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:52:19pm

re: #160 William Barnett-Lewis

ok, DF, here's what I sent:

Well said, sir. It had the personal touch my own letter did not. But I tend to be formal when writing to those I do not know.

166 Varek Raith  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:53:03pm

re: #139 Gus

Anyone see a Saw movie? Not me. Saw some clips recently. Damn crazy.

Seen a couple for the gratuitous violence.

167 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:53:18pm

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

True. But even so Cutler was better protected than Chicago Blackhawk Marion Hossa was earlier this year when he took a blatantly illegal hit from a member of the Arizona Coyotes during the playoffs. A hit bad enough he still had not recovered by this summer and that the Coyote in question will spend the first to games of the next NHL season, whenever it is, even if next year, suspended. Football helmets are much better protection than hockey helmets.

I'm sorry but even though I grew up in the north lands, I find hockey to be a sick excuse for fights. Is Hossa ok now?

168 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:56:38pm

re: #164 dragonath

Whoa, a handy collection to every fauxtrage in the last four years...!

lol at his description of Bill Clinton.

This is Mr. McNaughton's entry labeled "Birth Certificate":

Birth Certificate

Conspiracy theories have run rampant with Obama's mystery regarding his origin of birth. Most of the questions were started under his own Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, during the Democratic Primaries. Called, "Birthers" by the liberal news media as a means to discredit them, these people eventually succeeded in pushing Obama to release his long form birth certificate only to find out through an investigation of the Maricopa Police Department that the document was a fake. Recently it was discovered that Obama had been a citizen of Indonesia when raised by his mother abroad. What is all this?? Obama has spent millions to keep his college transcripts sealed among other things. What is he hiding? There has been no definitive conclusion to this investigation. No court will touch it and no member of Washington on the Hill will consider it; the political fallout is too great. We may never know. This is either the biggest misunderstanding or biggest lie ever perpetuated upon the American people.

169 Mattand  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:57:22pm

re: #152 darthstar

That's one fucked up individual.

Humble, too.

170 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:57:52pm

re: #161 Dark_Falcon

Spokesman: House majority leader knew of Petraeus matter in October

Word is that the FBI's timeline on the affair shows they knew something was going on as far back as late summer, which once again shows just how devious that Obama is, that he had prepared blackmail on Petraeus months before he knew he'd need it to cover-up Benghazi.

///

Decided to take a short jaunt over to FR, just to see what they're saying about Petraeus. Latest crazy theory is that his resignation will force Congress to subpoena him, which they think he'll use as leverage to say he won't testify unless they likewise subpoena Obama and Hillary.

171 jaunte  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:58:23pm

re: #150 Mattand

If this painting is any indication, not well.

McNaughton's got the competing candidate "dog stories" in there too, in his Romney caption:

Image: Screen-Shot-2012-11-11-at-9.55.jpg

172 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:58:59pm

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

Thinking further, the playoffs present a special case. Would it matter to some to be suspended if they were able to cause a win by an illegal hit? Hmm... While I may want to give them suggestions, I am glad to not be a member of the competition committee!

173 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:59:50pm

re: #167 William Barnett-Lewis

I'm sorry but even though I grew up in the north lands, I find hockey to be a sick excuse for fights. Is Hossa ok now?

I don't know. The NHL is still on lockout, so his health situation hasn't been updated very visibly. He also lives in the Czech Republic during the off-season and won't return to the US till the NHL does.

174 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:00:06pm

re: #169 Mattand

Humble, too.

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How pathetic and insulting.

175 jaunte  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:01:19pm

Wow. Major sofa painting.
[Link: www.jonmcnaughton.com...]

176 engineer cat  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:01:28pm

Jon McNaughton
@McNaughtonArt

If my paintings cause one to think and feel something...then it is successful.

nauseous. i feel nauseous

177 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:02:07pm

re: #175 jaunte

Wow. Major sofa painting.
[Link: www.jonmcnaughton.com...]

Happy clouds. Happy leaves.

Now lets get some Thalo Blue.

178 dragonath  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:02:13pm

I think it's funny how Fox News actually featured this guy's paintings.

179 freetoken  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:02:53pm
180 freetoken  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:04:27pm

re: #178 dragonath

I think it's funny how Fox News actually featured this guy's paintings.

Fox News specializes in kitsch. It goes along with their fantasy world, sort of like peanut butter goes with jelly.

181 dragonath  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:04:37pm

Hey he's a mormon too...

182 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:04:54pm

re: #13 Vicious Babushka

I like NCIS-Los Angeles much better than NCIS-DC. For one thing, "Ziva" totally does not speak like an Israeli. For another thing, LL Cool J is HOT! And that little old lady (Linda Hunt) KICKS ASS.

Linda Hunt kicks ass pretty much in everything she does. I still recall her in "Silverado". Amazing actress. She was the best thing about "Kindergarten Cop", too.

And the whole Ziva arc is ridiculous. Ziva does not sound Israeli, and Ziva does not act much like an Israeli, but boy, she is easy on the eyes. (Also, the whole backstory with Ziva never made any sense whatsoever. I especially like the part where they're all talking about how smart the Mossad director was to have a son with a Palestinian woman because, hey, insta-undercover agent! I'm sitting there thinking, "He was raised by his mother in the West Bank. There are no special Israeli genes that activate when you're eighteen and make you want to work for Mossad." And they pronounce her brother's name Ay-Ree, which confused me for weeks until I realized it's "Ari", and everyone, even he, is pronouncing it weird.)

But I still like the DC cast and story line best.

183 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:04:56pm

re: #176 engineer cat

Jon McNaughton
@McNaughtonArt

If my paintings cause one to think and feel something...then it is successful.

nauseous. i feel nauseous

You might consider buying "Still life with Pepto Bismol." It's an oil.

184 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:04:59pm

re: #169 Mattand

Humble, too.

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The good news, such as it is, is that that painting cannot be called Neo-Confederate. Doesn't mean McNaughton isn't sympathetic to those assholes, but this painting is not something Robert Stacy McCain would like, at least.

185 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:05:13pm

re: #176 engineer cat

Jon McNaughton
@McNaughtonArt

If my paintings cause one to think and feel something...then it is successful.

nauseous. i feel nauseous

I was going to make a comment. Right before hitting enter I realized it was against TOS. Ah well, I know what I think of the Anti-Christian fool.

186 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:06:08pm

re: #16 Vicious Babushka

The hottest guy on TV is Shemar Moore from "Criminal Minds." MMMM I loves me some eye candy.

He's beautiful. I would like them to get a series of murders on the beach which would require Morgan to spend a lot of time in swim trunks.

187 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:07:27pm

Before you ask, no, this is not from The Onion:

15 States including Texas have filed a petition to secede from the United States

As of Saturday November 10, 2012, 15 States have petitioned the Obama Administration for withdrawal from the United States of America in order to create its own government.

States following this action include: Louisiana, Texas, Montana, North Dakota, Indiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, North Carolina, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, New Jersey, Colorado, Oregon and New York. These States have requested that the Obama Administration grant a peaceful withdrawal from the United States.

These citizen generated petitions were filed just days after the 2012 Presidential election.

Louisiana was the first State to file a petition a day after the election by a Michael E. from Slidell, Louisiana. Texas was the next State to follow by a Micah H. from Arlington, Texas.

The government allows one month from the day the petition is submitted to obtain 25,000 signatures in order for the Obama administration to consider the request.

188 darthstar  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:08:23pm
189 jaunte  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:08:55pm

re: #187 Targetpractice

Where the author makes her first mistake is referring to the individual secessionist whack-jobs as "states" in her headline.

190 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:08:55pm

re: #169 Mattand

Humble, too.

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191 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:10:21pm

Outreach.

192 Mattand  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:10:30pm

re: #184 Dark_Falcon

The good news, such as it is, is that that painting cannot be called Neo-Confederate. Doesn't mean McNaughton isn't sympathetic to those assholes, but this painting is not something Robert Stacy McCain would like, at least.

Yeah, that's true. I don't get a racist vibe from it. The sheer audacity that MacNaughton "knows" what African Americans can relate to borders on monomaniacal.

193 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:11:06pm

re: #52 Gus

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I feel that if the head of the CIA is psychic, we should probably keep him, regardless of personal failings.

194 dragonath  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:11:10pm

I bring you

Barf Reagan

195 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:11:37pm

re: #193 SanFranciscoZionist

I feel that if the head of the CIA is psychic, we should probably keep him, regardless of personal failings.

Good point.

196 Mattand  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:12:10pm

re: #194 dragonath

I bring you

Barf Reagan

There you throw up again.

197 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:12:26pm

re: #187 Targetpractice

Before you ask, no, this is not from The Onion:

15 States including Texas have filed a petition to secede from the United States

You can see how beautifully they're all going to fit together as a new country, too.

198 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:12:26pm

re: #194 dragonath

I bring you

Barf Reagan

Looks like Reagan, Dean Martin, John Wayne.

199 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:12:40pm

With a dash of Tony Bennett.

200 makeitstop  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:13:21pm

re: #187 Targetpractice

Before you ask, no, this is not from The Onion:

15 States including Texas have filed a petition to secede from the United States

Louisiana was the first State to file a petition a day after the election by a Michael E. from Slidell, Louisiana. Texas was the next State to follow by a Micah H. from Arlington, Texas.

The hell? Those brave secessionists don't want their surnames printed or something?

Brave patriots!
///////

201 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:15:27pm

re: #200 makeitstop

The hell? Those brave secessionists don't want their surnames printed or something?

Brave patriots!
///////

It's not really states. It's petitions within states. Pretty sad and the Examiner too...

As of 12:46 am, Sunday, signatures obtained by Louisiana, 7,358; Texas, 3,771; Florida, 636; Georgia, 475; Alabama, 834; North Carolina, 792; Kentucky, 467; Mississippi, 475; Indiana, 449; North Dakota, 162; Montana, 440; Colorado, 324; Oregon, 328; New Jersey, 301 and New York, 169. Many more States are expected to follow.

Ron Paul!

202 dragonath  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:16:35pm

Facebook makes me sad.

203 SpaceJesus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:17:13pm

I could probably find 170 people in New York who literally think Obama is some class of crustacean.

204 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:17:25pm

re: #176 engineer cat

Jon McNaughton
@McNaughtonArt

If my paintings cause one to think and feel something...then it is successful.

nauseous. i feel nauseous

I actually love McNaughton. There's something about the wingnuttery made oil paint that just cheers my soul.

205 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:17:29pm

This particular piece by McNaughton, Peace is Coming, is somewhat better than his political pieces, being more universal, though still wholly Christian. Of note is that the Scottish soldier in the picture wears the red and blue tartan of Clan McNaughton.

206 makeitstop  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:18:04pm

re: #201 Gus

It's not really states. It's petitions within states. Pretty sad and the Examiner too...

Ron Paul!

Yeah, Examiner = fail, from everything I've seen.

Those 'states' better get on the stick. Even the 'states' with the most signatures have a ways to go to get to 25K.

207 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:18:15pm

re: #192 Mattand

Yeah, that's true. I don't get a racist vibe from it. The sheer audacity that MacNaughton "knows" what African Americans can relate to borders on monomaniacal.

Agreed.

208 freetoken  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:18:41pm

re: #187 Targetpractice

Before you ask, no, this is not from The Onion:

15 States including Texas have filed a petition to secede from the United States

As Gus states, it is not really "states" doing the petitioning but individuals. A State proper, if it wants to petition the "United States", would have to have its representative(s) bring a petition to Congress, such as could happen someday if PR wants to become a state.

209 SpaceJesus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:18:49pm

re: #204 SanFranciscoZionist

but what about the chilling sensation knowing that his work is classic fascist style art?

210 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:19:23pm

re: #201 Gus

It's not really states. It's petitions within states. Pretty sad and the Examiner too...

Ron Paul!

Thing that gets me is I can't for a second imagine a mirrored situation if Romney had won last Tuesday. Democrats would not be talking secession or declaring that they no longer belonged to America.

211 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:19:55pm

re: #203 SpaceJesus

I could probably find 170 people in New York who literally think Obama is some class of crustacean.

Like Zoidberg?

212 jaunte  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:20:24pm

re: #204 SanFranciscoZionist

I actually love McNaughton. There's something about the wingnuttery made oil paint that just cheers my soul.

But look at that landscape I linked in 175. You couldn't live with that, it's just dead.

213 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:20:28pm

re: #208 freetoken

As Gus states, it is not really "states" doing the petitioning but individuals. A State proper, if it wants to petition the "United States", would have to have its representative(s) bring a petition to Congress, such as could happen someday if PR wants to become a state.

Yeah. It would have to be a rather formal task. Not just some web page collecting signatures.

214 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:20:58pm

re: #205 Dark_Falcon

This particular piece by McNaughton, Peace is Coming, is somewhat better than his political pieces, being more universal, though still wholly Christian. Of note is that the Scottish soldier in the picture wears the red and blue tartan of Clan McNaughton.

Did you read some of the mouseovers?

215 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:22:34pm

re: #210 Targetpractice

Thing that gets me is I can't for a second imagine a mirrored situation if Romney had won last Tuesday. Democrats would not be talking secession or declaring that they no longer belonged to America.

Well, people would be talking about moving to France, and some folks would be insisting he wasn't 'their' president, and such. But the secession talk wouldn't be a big thing.

216 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:23:03pm

re: #214 Gus

Did you read some of the mousovers?

Yes. It's got some issues, but its not spewing lies nor being racist. That being the case, I'm inclined to allow an artist some space.

217 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:24:21pm

re: #210 Targetpractice

Thing that gets me is I can't for a second imagine a mirrored situation if Romney had won last Tuesday. Democrats would not be talking secession or declaring that they no longer belonged to America.

Of course not. We'd be planning how to clone Grant & Sherman so they could lead our invasion troops to retake the traitors homeland...
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.
What?

218 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:24:47pm

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

Yes. It's got some issues, but its not spewing lies nor being racist. That being the case, I'm inclined to allow an artist some space.

There's something there about "martial race." I can't copy it but it's about this spew:

Martial race was a designation created by Army officials of British India after the mutiny of 1857, where they classified each ethnic group into one of two categories, 'martial' and 'non-martial'.[citation needed] The ostensible reason was that a 'martial race' was typically brave and well-built for fighting,[1] while the 'non-martial races' were those whom the British believed to be unfit for battle because of their sedentary lifestyles. However the real reason was to justify that, after British-trained Indian soldiers rebelled after the war of 1857, the British increased recruitment from the races which had remained loyal to the British and diminished or abandoned recruitment from the catchment area of the Bengal army.[2] The concept already had a precedent in Indian culture as one of the four orders (varnas) in the Vedic-Hindu social system are known as the Kshatriya, literally "warriors."

I can excuse the historical figures perhaps. But not a modern.

219 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:25:31pm

re: #205 Dark_Falcon

This particular piece by McNaughton, Peace is Coming, is somewhat better than his political pieces, being more universal, though still wholly Christian. Of note is that the Scottish soldier in the picture wears the red and blue tartan of Clan McNaughton.

The sad thing is that I'm pretty sure you're not kidding.

Universal but wholly Christian?

Plus, it's just as badly composed as everything else he does.

220 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:27:23pm

re: #218 Gus

There's something there about "martial race." I can't copy it but it's about this spew:

I can excuse the historical figures perhaps. But not a modern.

It's what the British though of India. McNaughton wanted to represent the Indian soldiers who fought for the British, and felt that an explanation need to be inserted. Neither the term nor the definition is his.

221 engineer cat  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:27:30pm

kathie lee gifford starring in a musical that she wrote about aimee semple mcpherson???

222 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:28:15pm

re: #220 Dark_Falcon

It's what the British though of India. McNaughton wanted to represent the Indian soldiers who fought for the British, and felt that an explanation need to be inserted. Neither the term nor the definition is his.

Sorry. Not feeling much empathy for McNaughton right now. Maybe in about a decade.

223 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:28:46pm

McNaughton is one of many that have poisoned the discourse.

224 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:30:04pm

re: #223 Gus

McNaughton is one of many that have poisoned the discourse.

How can you not like a man who includes a CFL bulb as a major figure in his paintings? Not to mention a teleprompter?

225 Mattand  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:30:27pm

re: #205 Dark_Falcon

This particular piece by McNaughton, Peace is Coming, is somewhat better than his political pieces, being more universal, though still wholly Christian. Of note is that the Scottish soldier in the picture wears the red and blue tartan of Clan McNaughton.

LOL, "somewhat better" is a fairly low bar.

This one creeps me out more than the others. The image of Native Americans welcoming a caucasian Jesus is unbelievably tone deaf, given that many of the atrocities they suffered had a religious undertone to them.

226 jaunte  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:30:39pm

Scumbling towards Gomorrah.

227 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:31:48pm

re: #224 SanFranciscoZionist

How can you not like a man who includes a CFL bulb as a major figure in his paintings? Not to mention a teleprompter?

The CFL bulb indicates the coming of the Antichrist! Beware the end is neigh for now we have a Muslamic Black Atheist president reading through teleprompters!

228 freetoken  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:32:30pm

re: #223 Gus

McNaughton is one of many that have poisoned the discourse.

I assign him to the same group that produce countless variations of Bible versions or plaster/plastic casts of little angel figurines that are sold in so many religious outlets. Milking the sentimentalities of Americans who want to escape the present and are afraid of the future, who only take security in some false past.

229 dragonath  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:32:55pm

What's up with the tree on Jesus's robes? Did he steal them from elves or something?

230 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:33:27pm

re: #225 Mattand

LOL, "somewhat better" is a fairly low bar.

This one creeps me out more than the others. The image of Native Americans welcoming a caucasian Jesus is unbelievably tone deaf, given that many of the atrocities they suffered had a religious undertone to them.

his other paintings of Mormon Temples lead me to believe that Mr. McNaughton is himself a Mormon, which would in part explain that depiction. Wouldn't make it too much better, given the Book of Mormon.

231 jaunte  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:33:32pm

re: #229 dragonath

Right after he stole Chuck Norris' beard.

232 Mattand  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:33:53pm

re: #229 dragonath

What's up with the tree on Jesus's robes? Did he steal them from elves or something?

He's wearing mithril underneath.

233 SpaceJesus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:34:17pm

I like this take on McNaughton much better

Image: 6a00c225264172549d0137e0233813860e.jpg

234 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:34:33pm

The Texans best the Bears 13-6, following a second half without a touchdown. Ugly, but not crushing.

235 SpaceJesus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:35:39pm

The Bears are pretty good when they're playing teams that aren't

236 freetoken  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:35:50pm

re: #229 dragonath

What's up with the tree on Jesus's robes? Did he steal them from elves or something?

The "tree" motif is a common one in the theistic religions, and is common throughout the OT and NT. It sort of exposes the whole thing regarding its ancient pantheistic (western pantheon) past, but on the whole they miss that part.

237 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:36:20pm

re: #229 dragonath

What's up with the tree on Jesus's robes? Did he steal them from elves or something?

God is the tree, humankind is the branches. Its a fairly conventional bit of Christian symbolism.

238 Mattand  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:36:39pm

re: #236 freetoken

The "tree" motif is a common one in the theistic religions, and is common throughout the OT and NT. It sort of exposes the whole thing regarding its ancient pantheistic (western pantheon) past, but on the whole they miss that part.

Two words: Christmas tree.

239 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:37:13pm

re: #235 SpaceJesus

They'd have been better not losing their starting QB to an illegal hit.

240 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:37:19pm

re: #236 freetoken

The "tree" motif is a common one in the theistic religions, and is common throughout the OT and NT. It sort of exposes the whole thing regarding its ancient pantheistic (western pantheon) past, but on the whole they miss that part.

Remind me to expound some time on my theory of tree worship reentering Judaism through the work of Jewish National Fund.

241 engineer cat  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:38:34pm

re: #240 SanFranciscoZionist

Remind me to expound some time on my theory of tree worship reentering Judaism through the work of Jewish National Fund.

as long, i suppose, as they are not ashera trees

242 dragonath  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:39:14pm

I see trees are poplar.

243 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:39:34pm

re: #238 Mattand

Two words: Christmas tree.

Some folks get quite excited over Jeremiah 10 as regards Christmas trees.

It's a lovely custom, though.

244 freetoken  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:39:35pm

re: #240 SanFranciscoZionist

We humans have a very complex relationship to those plants we call "trees". It's deep and ancient. I wonder if the use of tree symbology doesn't spring from some primate-essence that works its way out through modern human thinking and art.

245 freetoken  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:39:52pm

re: #242 dragonath

Many pine for them.

246 Mattand  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:40:06pm

re: #242 dragonath

I see trees are poplar.

Number five: the larch.

The.

Larch.

247 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:40:18pm

re: #245 freetoken

Many pine for them.

And they're just the right height.

248 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:41:08pm

re: #241 engineer cat

as long, i suppose, as they are not ashera trees

Well, I think they're basically being sold as homes for ancestral spirits.

The prophets would have lain down and sobbed.

I worked for JNF for a while. People are NOT just planting trees, let me put it like that.

249 makeitstop  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:41:11pm

I see this thread is beginning to branch out.

250 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:41:39pm

re: #249 makeitstop

I see this thread is beginning to branch out.

You got that right bud.

251 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:42:14pm

re: #250 Gus

You got that right bud.

I suppose it's too late to leaf the whole subject alone.

252 Mattand  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:42:35pm

re: #243 SanFranciscoZionist

Some folks get quite excited over Jeremiah 10 as regards Christmas trees.

It's a lovely custom, though.

Man, you learn something new every day here. There's a reason I like to chat with people way smarter than me.

253 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:43:00pm

re: #251 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

I suppose it's too late to leaf the whole subject alone.

Someone might bark out a new idea.

254 makeitstop  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:43:00pm

re: #251 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

I suppose it's too late to leaf the whole subject alone.

No, it's taken root.

255 Mattand  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:43:26pm

re: #251 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

I suppose it's too late to leaf the whole subject alone.

Too late. It's taken root.

256 dragonath  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:43:48pm

You people are nuts.

257 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:44:07pm

re: #246 Mattand

Number five: the larch.

The.

Larch.

Like this?

Oh, sorry. I thought you said "Lurch".

258 makeitstop  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:44:13pm

re: #255 Mattand

Too late. It's taken root.

Git outta mah head!

259 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:44:28pm

re: #256 dragonath

You people are nuts.

It's like they're running rings around my head.

260 Mattand  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:44:31pm

re: #254 makeitstop

No, it's taken root.

THIEF!

Or great minds think alike. It's a grove situation, nonetheless.

261 SpaceJesus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:44:34pm

ok enough of these tree puns, somebody needs to spruce this place up with a new topic or two

262 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:45:02pm

re: #249 makeitstop

I see this thread is beginning to branch out.

We'll need to willow it back down then.

263 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:45:20pm

re: #261 SpaceJesus

ok enough of these puns, somebody needs to spruce this place up with a new topic or two

Election fraud. ACORN!!!11!

264 jaunte  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:45:43pm

Sometimes there's a special phloem to the conversation.

265 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:46:09pm

re: #261 SpaceJesus

ok enough of these puns, somebody needs to spruce this place up with a new topic or two

Yew first.

266 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:46:16pm

re: #264 jaunte

Sometimes there's a special phloem to the conversation.

Is that like reading a pole?

267 Mattand  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:46:21pm

I'll lumber into another pun.

268 calochortus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:46:38pm

There is a correlation between the development of civilization and oak trees. Acorns make a remarkably sustaining, if bland, food which also stores well. No wonder people got excited about them in a world where hunger was common.

269 jaunte  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:46:56pm

re: #266 Gus

I wooden know!

270 SpaceJesus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:47:01pm

wood you guys stop already

271 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:47:45pm

re: #269 jaunte

I wooden know!

Where's my crown?

272 Mattand  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:47:47pm

It's knot funny anymore.

273 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:48:14pm

re: #267 Mattand

I'll lumber into another pun.

Yeah, I'm getting board.

274 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:48:28pm

re: #272 Mattand

It's knot funny anymore.

I see. So we're going against the grain here aren't we?

275 jaunte  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:49:03pm

re: #274 Gus

It's Pando monium.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

276 dragonath  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:49:16pm

Leaf is a real beech sometimes.

277 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:49:44pm

re: #275 jaunte

It's Pando monium.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

My head's Aspen.

278 darthstar  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:52:40pm

What's everybody birchin' about now?

279 dragonath  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:52:45pm

Surely that's not alder gonna do?

280 makeitstop  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:53:02pm

Is anyone logging this?

281 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:54:22pm

Sorry. I was on a coniference call.

282 dragonath  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:58:15pm

Yew rang?

283 freetoken  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:58:36pm

In the news today, many in Chicago are blowing their cork over this one:


Trees being cleared from a corner of Grant Park

For months, Bob O'Neill sent out emails, attended public meetings and posted updates online to publicize the upcoming changes planned for a north corner of Grant Park.

But even with his efforts to prepare residents for the major construction project downtown, when the black fencing went up and hundreds of trees were uprooted, O'Neill, who is the president of the Grant Park Conservancy and Advisory Council, started getting phone calls.

[...]

284 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:59:05pm

re: #278 darthstar

What's everybody birchin' about now?

Stress. I can't teak it anymore.

285 sagehen  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:59:18pm

re: #126 William Barnett-Lewis

That is everything ill in America today in a nutshell. What's the percent of total wealth held by those 6?

There's approximately $60 trillion in privately held wealth in the country.

1/3 of it is held by the richest 1%.

If we were to go full-bore socialist and simply seize 90% of what the wealthiest 1% owns, they and their offspring would still have enough to live very comfortably their entire lives without ever working another day, and we could pay off the entire national debt and cover next year's deficit.

286 freetoken  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:01:17pm

re: #285 sagehen

The idea that we (the US) doesn't have enough "wealth" to balance our budge is nonsense. The problem today isn't the non-existence of wealth, but the distribution of wealth we do have.

287 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:01:26pm

re: #283 freetoken

In the news today, many in Chicago are blowing their cork over this one:

Trees being cleared from a corner of Grant Park

It's not a happy thing, but they intend to save 200 of those trees and will replant more trees than were lost, so its not too bad.

288 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:02:58pm

Interesting....
Alleged Petraeus Mistress Suggested She Was Privy to State Secrets (with video)

Speaking on Oct. 26 at the University of Denver, Paula Broadwell—the married author of the highly favorable biography of Petraeus All In—was asked about the 9/11 anniversary attack.

“Now I don’t know if a lot of you heard this,” she replied, “but the CIA annex had actually—had taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner and they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to try to get these prisoners back. So that’s still being vetted.”

The CIA Sunday denied her claim that prisoners were held at the annex, which has not been reported elsewhere.

As her answer continued, Broadwell seemed to speak on behalf of Petraeus: “The challenging thing for General Petraeus is that in his new position he is not allowed to communicate with the press. So he’s known all of this, they had correspondence with the CIA station chief in Libya. Within 24 hours they kind of knew what was happening.”

Broadwell, herself a former military intelligence officer, began her discussion of the attack by referencing an exclusive Fox News report that had run that day. But while dramatic details of that story were later fiercely disputed by government officials, she relayed only parts of that story—like the attempt to send backup from a special-operations force—that were finally confirmed.

Later she lamented that the coverage of Benghazi had compromised U.S. efforts. “As a former intel officer,” she said. “It’s frustrating to me because it reveals our sources and methods. I don’t think the public needs to know all of that.”

I had dismissed a connection between Benghazi and the Patreus resignation but this might be something.

289 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:07:22pm

re: #288 Killgore Trout

Eli Lake. Daily Beast. I need a cigarette.

290 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:07:24pm

re: #285 sagehen

There's approximately $60 trillion in privately held wealth in the country.

1/3 of it is held by the richest 1%.

If we were to go full-bore socialist and simply seize 90% of what the wealthiest 1% owns, they and their offspring would still have enough to live very comfortably their entire lives without ever working another day, and we could pay off the entire national debt and cover next year's deficit.

Yes, I know.

291 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:08:38pm

re: #169 Mattand

Humble, too.

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I don't get it.
If he's a runaway slave, why is he still holding the chains, and carrying a torch that would give his location away?
It's stupid.

292 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:10:10pm

re: #289 Gus

Eli Lake. Daily Beast. I need a cigarette.

The video seems accurate and backs up the reporting. Of course there's no way to know if she's telling the truth or if she had some inside knowledge but given recent events that is a possibility.

293 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:12:40pm

re: #292 Killgore Trout

The video seems accurate and backs up the reporting. Of course there's no way to know if she's telling the truth or if she had some inside knowledge but given recent events that is a possibility.

We are in the early stages. Anyone that claims "to know" something? Well, I just laugh at them for now.

294 Mattand  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:12:43pm

re: #291 OhNoZombies!

I don't get it.
If he's a runaway slave, why is he still holding the chains, and carrying a torch that would give his location away?
It's stupid.

Well, the subject of the painting is apparently a major league Tea Bagger, so that may answer your question.

295 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:14:05pm
“The CIA has not had detention authority since January 2009, when Executive Order 13491 was issued. Any suggestion that the Agency is still in the detention business is uninformed and baseless.”

Hmmmmm....secret detentions now possibly secret. Genius!

296 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:14:37pm

re: #295 Killgore Trout

Hmmmmm....secret detentions now possibly secret. Genius!

So he went there?

297 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:14:44pm

re: #74 Vicious Babushka

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Did you see the reply comments?

Where did this "freeloader/get a job" meme come from? Is it traceable? It seems to be very popular lately.

298 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:15:46pm

re: #294 Mattand

Well, the subject of the painting is apparently a major league Tea Bagger, so that may answer your question.

Ah.
Lives on a different plain of reality.
Got it.

299 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:18:42pm

re: #81 Gus

That douche said it will cost him 15 to 20 cents more per pizza for health insurance.

Maybe it can come out of the "delivery fee" they tack on... I stopped ordering in PJ's anymore because it was costing me damned near $40 for two large pizzas. Instead I go to a local place which makes it by hand, New York style, and I happily pay those small-busines Job Creators to feed me.

300 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:27:51pm

re: #296 Gus

So he went there?

It does kind of flip the story in an unexpected direction. Given the recent developments I wouldn't totally dismiss her story. Let's suppose it's true just as thought experiment; The CIA takes some prisoners and passes them along to Libyans (rendition), CIA blacksites or just interrogates them and sets them free. There's certainly an operation reason for keeping this quiet since unlike the Bush regime this kind of thing is now actually secret. But it also opens a new political reason since Obama isn't supposed to be doing this sort of thing. Not that it bothers me much but the moonbats might not like it if the story ends up being true.


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