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Letter to a Future Republican Strategist Regarding White People

My wife and I are not sensitive to your messaging, nor did we vote for the candidates you proposed for us this past Tuesday.
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This is an entertaining read for those of us who already feel the same way, and probably pearls before swine to those who really need to absorb this information. I assume most of you will be highly entertained.

Letter to a Future Republican Strategist Regarding White People

To whom it may concern regarding the United States federal elections of 2014, 2016 and beyond:

Allow me to introduce myself to you, the existing (or aspiring!) strategist for the Republican Party. My name is Eric Arnold Garland and I am a White Man. Boy, am I ever - you need sunglasses just to look at my photo!

If I read the news correctly, I fit a profile that is of extreme importance to the GOP, as I embody the archetype that fits your narrative of Real Americans. Just how much should my profile interest you? Are you sitting down?

•My family lineage goes back to the MAYFLOWER, BOAT ONE!!! (Garland family of New England-> John Adams -> Howard Alden -> Plymouth colony ->KINGS OF MUTHAF***IN’ ENGLAND)

•I am a heterosexual, married to the super Caucasian mother of my two beautiful children who are, inexplicably, EVEN WHITER THAN I AM.

[further impressive credentials are listed, then he gives the shocking news that he didn’t vote for Mitt Romney…]

May I explain why not, purely for your education, such that you might be interested in winning an election on the national level at some point in the future? It bears pointing out that I should be your Low Hanging Fruit, the easy vote to get as opposed to, say, African-Americans, Latinos, or Asians – and you’re not even speaking well to me. The reasons why ought to concern you deeply.

[…]

Here are the areas of concern he shares:

Science

Climate

Healthcare

War

Deficits and debt

Gay marriage

Then he needs to add one more.

Uh oh, wait, I can already hear you through the web browser, dismissing all of my above points because THAT GUY WAS NEVER GONNA BE A REPUBLICAN ANYHOW, CUZ HE’S A LIBRUL WHO HATES AMERICA AND…

All right, let’s do one last point:

Meanness-

Go read the whole thing. Apparently the throngs attracted to this piece of brilliance have crashed his server before, so if you can’t get in, try again later.

I found another essay on his site that demonstrates his grasp of the subject. From diversity to inclusion: the model of a great conference. But if his server crashes, you won’t be able to get to that one either.

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323 comments

1 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 3:35:02pm

While we're helping the Republican Rescue Shelter, Lets start with some simple do's and don't's:

1. Do not fuck with Big Bird.
2. Do not fuck with nuns.
3. Do not fuck with old black dudes with old poll tax reciepts.
4. Do not fuck with Fire Department bagpipers.
5. Do not fuck with Special Ed teachers.
6. Do not fuck with Mexican roofers.

anyone...

2 sauceruney  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 3:44:26pm

Wow! Thanks for sharing this.

3 sauceruney  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 3:48:21pm

re: #1 Decatur Deb

7. Do admit to being wrong, instead of making fairy-tale excuses.

4 freetoken  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:13:49pm

I too am a baby boomer white male of northern European ancestry, so "demographically" I'm supposed to vote for the Republicans, I guess.

But no, I didn't. I couldn't. Not for Mitt Romney (and not for McCain in 2008 or for Bush in 2004).

The GOP has become a party of war mongers on top, who manipulate an ignorant "base" through the use of religion and religious motifs.

As I grow older I am becoming more aware of, and more concerned about, the ability of our society to maintain communities that function locally, in meeting all the needs necessary for a happy civilization, for everyone.

It will do me no personal good to live in a society with a permanent second class citizenry, second class just because they are the wrong color or come from a wrong country.

As I get older I am becoming more cynical about our society in general, but in particular I find the current political posturing of the GOP to be especially off-putting.

Lying about wanting to preserve Social Security, wanting to cut budgets for services to help the elderly and poor, such as public transportation and subsidized housing - no, that is not a way to build a society.

Ayn Rand was wrong. Just plain wrong. Trying to sell selfishness and mean-spirited politics as an "economic plan" is as mindless as it is cold.

The inability and unwillingness of the educated GOP elite to confront their base's willful ignorance on issues of our day (such as the need for humanity to live sustainably on this planet) demonstrates how empty of vision and empathy said GOP elite truly are.

So no, even though "demographically" I'm supposed to vote Republican, I just can't. What little conscience I have prohibits me.

5 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:13:56pm

Tonight's episode of Boardwalk Empire had a very good depiction of the effects of Moderate Traumatic Brain Injury (mTBI), as we see Nucky Thompson suffering the aftereffects of a bomb blast.

6 Mattand  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:17:05pm

re: #3 sauceruney

7. Do admit to being wrong, instead of making fairy-tale excuses.

8. Never get less than twelve hours sleep
9. Never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city
10. Never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body

7 Kaessa  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:23:30pm

I fit in Romney's "demographic" as well. Middle aged, married, white, grandmother. Everything the Republican party has been saying lately has repulsed me on so many levels. The anti-gay bigotry. The war on women. The absolute cluelessness about how the economy ACTUALLY works.

And now his followers are on the attack. This was on my Facebook feed today, posted by my daughter-in-law, "liked" by my mother-in-law, and argued for by my son.

Derp

These people need to BACK THE FUCK AWAY from the television and turn OFF Fox News. It's been Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi for days on end.

8 Gus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:23:56pm
9 engineer cat  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:25:14pm

re: #6 Mattand

10. Never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body

[Link: jazzincunabula.blogspot.com...]

10 Interesting Times  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:30:27pm

re: #7 Kaessa

*headdesk*

Perhaps you should tell them that when a group (i.e. the rightwing) specializing in projection and DARVO accuses others of same, it opens a hole in the space-time continuum into which they shall forever disappear down a swirling vortex of denial, despair, and moral derptitude.

11 Kaessa  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:35:49pm

re: #10 Interesting Times

*headdesk*

Perhaps you should tell them that when a group (i.e. the rightwing) specializing in projection and DARVO accuses others of same, it opens a hole in the space-time continuum into which they shall forever disappear down a swirling vortex of denial, despair, and moral derptitude.

Fortunately, two of my four children are sane. One has gone to the dark side, and one is an anti-vaccinationist moonbat. My oldest and my youngest still reside on this planet for now.

12 sagehen  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:36:06pm

11, Never get involved in a land war in Asia.

13 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:40:01pm

re: #7 Kaessa

I fit in Romney's "demographic" as well. Middle aged, married, white, grandmother. Everything the Republican party has been saying lately has repulsed me on so many levels. The anti-gay bigotry. The war on women. The absolute cluelessness about how the economy ACTUALLY works.

And now his followers are on the attack. This was on my Facebook feed today, posted by my daughter-in-law, "liked" by my mother-in-law, and argued for by my son.

Derp

These people need to BACK THE FUCK AWAY from the television and turn OFF Fox News. It's been Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi for days on end.

Man...

That kind of crazy can't be un-learned. I hate to think about the possibility of another Civil War, but when that's the kind of stuff that's coming out of people's pie holes, and those people *aren't* in some kind of institution, I begin to worry. I look back at slavery and shake my head - what would the survivors of Civil War II think? How can that kind of mental poison be dealt with, really? How can people be so heartsick with anger and revulsion just because of somebody voting for a "liberal"?

WTF, America? Seriously.

14 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:45:36pm

It's worth remembering that Romney was the absolute best his party had to offer. How fuckin' sad is that.

15 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:47:20pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

It's worth remembering that Romney was the absolute best his party had to offer. How fuckin' sad is that.

I have to argue that, he wasn't the "best," just the last man standing. If Citizens United did one thing for this election, it was allow Romney to plow under the competition and now even break a sweat.

16 makeitstop  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:48:37pm

re: #13 Pawn of the Oppressor

Man...

That kind of crazy can't be un-learned. I hate to think about the possibility of another Civil War, but when that's the kind of stuff that's coming out of people's pie holes, and those people *aren't* in some kind of institution, I begin to worry. I look back at slavery and shake my head - what would the survivors of Civil War II think? How can that kind of mental poison be dealt with, really? How can people be so heartsick with anger and revulsion just because of somebody voting for a "liberal"?

WTF, America? Seriously.

My cult member fundie wingnut sister just posted a pic of Obama on Facebook with the words 'Don't Comply, Nullify,' with a link to a Tenther site.

Makes me sad. She's a smart person, but her church has completely brainwashed her.

17 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:49:04pm

re: #15 Targetpractice

I have to argue that, he wasn't the "best," just the last man standing. If Citizens United did one thing for this election, it was allow Romney to plow under the competition and now even break a sweat.

Also remember that it was an election that involved an incumbent not facing a primary challenge. Thus many of the top GOP potential candidates did not run.

18 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:50:02pm

re: #16 makeitstop

My cult member fundie wingnut sister just posted a pic of Obama on Facebook with the words 'Don't Comply, Nullify,' with a link to a Tenther site.

Makes me sad. She's a smart person, but her church has completely brainwashed her.

Send her this in reply:

19 engineer cat  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:52:01pm

re: #17 Dark_Falcon

Also remember that it was an election that involved an incumbent not facing a primary challenge. Thus many of the top GOP potential candidates did not run.

who would those be?

20 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:52:30pm

re: #15 Targetpractice

I have to argue that, he wasn't the "best," just the last man standing. If Citizens United did one thing for this election, it was allow Romney to plow under the competition and now even break a sweat.

Disagree. Yes his money helped him win the primaries, but he was still head and shoulders more electable than any of the others. One by one try to imagine Bachman, Cain, Gingrich, Huntsman, Perry or Santorum doing better. The entire field was some kind of pathetic joke, hell Pawlenty was scared off by his own shadow.

21 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:53:21pm

re: #19 engineer cat

who would those be?

Jindal, Christie, Rubio, for starters.

22 freetoken  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:54:01pm

re: #20 goddamnedfrank

... One by one try to imagine Bachman, Cain, Gingrich, Huntsman, Perry or Santorum doing better. The entire field was some kind of pathetic joke, hell Pawlenty was scared off by his own shadow.

Or, as an editorial I linked earlier today put it, the GOP primaries were immersed in a "fog of buffoonery".

23 engineer cat  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:56:25pm

re: #21 Dark_Falcon

Jindal, Christie, Rubio, for starters.

amazing to me how quickly christie has become the target of bitter and ruthless recriminations in conservative circles

24 makeitstop  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:56:54pm

Holy shit. I've come across super-derp.

(A link from one of my sister's FB posts. If it's inappropriate, let me know and I'll remove the link. I just found it staggering in its abject stupidity.)

25 Kaessa  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:58:43pm

re: #24 makeitstop

Holy shit. I've come across super-derp.

(A link from one of my sister's FB posts. If it's inappropriate, let me know and I'll remove the link. I just found it staggering in its abject stupidity.)

This is from your sister? Oh man, and I thought my family was bad. You have my sympathies.

26 makeitstop  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 10:00:54pm

re: #25 Kaessa

This is from your sister? Oh man, and I thought my family was bad. You have my sympathies.

Worse yet - she actually believes that Obama has been charged with something, and it's not just some old crank wasting people's time.

27 Schadenfreude 'r' Us  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 10:04:03pm

re: #25 Kaessa

This is from your sister? Oh man, and I thought my family was bad. You have my sympathies.

I suspect that a few of my relatives (in-laws, actually) may approach that level of derpitute... I very carefully avoid certain subjects with them.

28 Kaessa  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 10:04:32pm

re: #26 makeitstop

Worse yet - she actually believes that Obama has been charged with something, and it's not just some old crank wasting people's time.

I totally blame Fox News for this, Rush, and the RWNJ websites. They've just been pushing for more and better ratings, at the expense of our country's sanity. They don't care if what they say is true, all they care is if they can sell it, and sell fear, so people come back for more.

How do we fix this?

29 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 10:05:35pm

re: #17 Dark_Falcon

Also remember that it was an election that involved an incumbent not facing a primary challenge. Thus many of the top GOP potential candidates did not run.

Rob Portman is the only one I can see even standing half a chance in the general and with his stance in favor of granting amnesty to undocumented immigrants he never would have made it through the 2012 primaries. He's also, like most people in your party, a gigantic bigot - voted in favor of banning gays from adopting.

30 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 10:07:09pm

It's midnight here, so Good Night.

31 Kaessa  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 10:08:50pm

Yep, sleepy pill kicking in here, so I'm off as well. G'nite, all. :)

32 sagehen  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 10:24:37pm

re: #29 goddamnedfrank

Rob Portman is the only one I can see even standing half a chance in the general and with his stance in favor of granting amnesty to undocumented immigrants he never would have made it through the 2012 primaries. He's also, like most people in your party, a gigantic bigot - voted in favor of banning gays from adopting.

Jon Huntsman could have easily won the general -- for all the reasons he couldn't get any traction in the primaries.

33 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 10:39:55pm

re: #32 sagehen

Jon Huntsman could have easily won the general -- for all the reasons he couldn't get any traction in the primaries.

I think the freepers and so-cons required a candidate that at least paid lip service to their causes during the general election. That's why Romney picked Ryan over Portman, Christie or Rubio. That's also why Romney's campaign felt the need to keep walking back his patently false statements regarding his support for pre-existing condition coverage, the Blunt-Rubio amendment, etc. If there was any additional room during the general to maneuver to the center Romney would have capitalized on that, so I'm doubtful in the extreme that Huntsman could have done any better.

34 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 11:03:10pm

re: #7 Kaessa

Man. That was a lot of bad craziness.

35 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 11:07:14pm

re: #21 Dark_Falcon

My wife read this and said, "No…fucking…way!" She lives in Louisiana, for now, and so knows what she's talking about.

36 Varek Raith  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 11:09:41pm

re: #24 makeitstop

Holy shit. I've come across super-derp.

(A link from one of my sister's FB posts. If it's inappropriate, let me know and I'll remove the link. I just found it staggering in its abject stupidity.)

Edit-Removed link to crazy site.
0_o

37 Varek Raith  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 11:14:51pm

Man, that site is full of crazy.

38 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 11:17:13pm

I especially like the picture of himself, his lovely wife, and their two beautiful children.

Those are, indeed, some exceedingly white people.

39 Mattand  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 11:30:35pm

re: #24 makeitstop

Holy shit. I've come across super-derp.

(A link from one of my sister's FB posts. If it's inappropriate, let me know and I'll remove the link. I just found it staggering in its abject stupidity.)

Ya know, it takes a unique set of skills to make World Net Daily and Infowars seem rational.

40 Varek Raith  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 11:35:46pm

Ok, I removed the link in my post. They don't need the hits.

41 freetoken  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 11:58:57pm
42 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 12:26:05am

re: #12 sagehen

11, Never get involved in a land war in Asia.

12. Never trust a man in a blue trenchcoat.
13. Never drive a car when you're dead.

re: #21 Dark_Falcon

Jindal, Christie, Rubio, for starters.

Bobby "Non-consensual Exorcism" Jindal? Are you shitting me?

p.s. This online petition for a recount is full of bitter wingnut tears and conspiracy derp. Not as good as White People Mourning Romney, but enjoyable none the less. For the record, here is my contribution to the cause.

43 JamesWI  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 12:32:12am

re: #42 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society

12. Never trust a man in a blue trenchcoat.
13. Never drive a car when you're dead.

re: #21 Dark_Falcon

Bobby "Non-consensual Exorcism" Jindal? Are you shitting me?

p.s. This online petition for a recount is full of bitter wingnut tears and conspiracy derp. Not as good as White People Mourning Romney, but enjoyable none the less. For the record, here is my contribution to the cause.

Awww, I was just about to post the link to that. It is glorious. Try and make sense of this one:

Most of the people I talked to in Colorado were voting for Romney. Even Gays because of the jobs. Car Dealerships, and so many others were standing by him. You have hereings in Ohio for machine rigging. What we see is the vote of the people being, surpressed. This has never been allowed in our country. It was plain for all to see. Censored news is another. This is Not Russia! And never in our nation have we let a President get away with what he is. This is one that did not go unnoticed. Being a Dem is one thing. There have been alot of great leaders in that party. But when we have someone who allows the deaths of other's. Devide the country, Smugg Israel, steal votes. You are forcing the American people. We will not stand for that! And when something is done in plain sight. And may I say poorly done. Yet, try and cover it up. And again poorly. Then I ask what the Dem's have come too.

We will not let this rest!! To elect a President is our's. Not the Gov's. And we are demanding a recount for all. And those not counted. And again if we are not the US. Then what are we!! Election comes again for senators..Maybe we should take a diffrent RT next time. Sinse everyone wants betray this country in Washington.

It's like it was written by a kindergartener.

44 researchok  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 12:49:03am

Morning, all

45 researchok  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 12:53:48am

re: #41 freetoken

Nice.

Music is much more global now- stuff that would have been more exotic has become more mainstream.

All in all, a very good thing.

46 freetoken  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 1:17:42am

Hitchcock presents a rather low view of women in many of his movies, I think. Perhaps not more so than other men of his time, but his presentation of women as being very naive, sometimes down right stupid, shows up in a lot of his works.

Maybe that is how women were way back then? I doubt that though.

47 researchok  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 1:38:42am

re: #46 freetoken

They were Hitchcock's idealized women.

Men were the sane, rational heroes and women needed protection.

That idealization worked well on movie date night, too.

48 freetoken  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 1:41:41am
49 researchok  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 1:51:02am

Reminds me of this

I dare you not tap your toes.

50 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 2:29:03am

re: #43 JamesWI

Awww, I was just about to post the link to that. It is glorious. Try and make sense of this one:

It's like it was written by a kindergartener.

Perhaps forcing everyone to learn English is not such a bad idea, after all. We can start with the Tea Party. Oh, and Sarah Palin.

51 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 2:52:03am

Morning Honcos.

52 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 3:04:54am

Email to Tampa woman touched off Petraeus investigation, military source says
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]

54 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 4:23:20am

Boker tov Lizardia, I see that I am not the only one here who has to deal with loved ones that have drank the Derp-Aid.

55 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 4:26:20am

Good Morning.

56 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 4:31:57am

Arizona has more than half a million uncounted votes. There's probably going to be a DOJ investigation of this, right about the same time the Supreme Court takes up the voting rights act.

Appropriate.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

57 Flounder  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 4:36:00am

Good morning, I hope everyone is doing well today. New game out today!!!
Iconic images of the American soldier.
[Link: www.timesunion.com...]

58 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 4:38:26am

re: #56 Obdicut

Arizona has more than half a million uncounted votes. There's probably going to be a DOJ investigation of this, right about the same time the Supreme Court takes up the voting rights act.

Appropriate.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Have they counted the votes from all the Hispanics who voted on Nov 8th as they were instructed by the Maricopa Conty Board of Elections?

59 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 4:49:34am

hey wrenchwench-- great post. Thanks for posting it.

60 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 4:57:54am
61 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 4:59:24am

This White People Mourning Romney tumblr is awesome! Sweet, sweet wingnut tears.

62 Flounder  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 5:06:06am

‘Twink’ strike stoked
[Link: www.nypost.com...]
I think the twinky days are numbered :(

63 A Mom Anon  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 5:12:18am

I don't know what it's going to take for the GOP to learn,but I'm not counting on it happening anytime soon. They still insist that it's about "image","presentation" or bringing in the occasional woman or brown person to "prove"how diverse(and not at all sexist or racist)they are. It's very hard to believe,embarrassing even,that these are supposed to be adult people that think this way.

I said this yesterday,the right wing is treating this,our country,like it's a reality TV show. It's all about the politics to them, they have lost the ability and will to govern(with very few exceptions). It's not just insulting anymore,it's dangerous.

Back when people were protesting the war in Iraq,my thoughts,as I watched it all unfold(I was glued to CSPAN then,nearly every day)was that we should have spent at least some of that energy standing outside the media outlets that lied to us daily,that wouldn't report the news because they wouldn't spend 5 minutes doing any investigating or critical thinking. The right wing media especially has played a huge role in the division of families and communities. There are people in the comments section of this man's open letter to the GOP who seriously have no idea why anyone would consider the GOP to be anti woman. These people,I'd bet money are only reading right wing shit online and watching FOX and listening to conservative talk radio. There's no other way to miss what's happening. I almost wish there was a way to file a class action lawsuit against the whole lot of the bastards,they've done just as much damage as any other company's products have. All of us have family,neighbors or friends who have gone off the deep end of the derp,that's a scar that's going to linger for awhile. Maybe generations.

64 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 5:15:28am

re: #62 Flounder

Maybe so. The managment has been looting the fuck out of it and now are demanding workers take a pay cut and give up their pensions. It's contemptible bullshit.

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Creditors of Hostess Brands Inc. said in court papers the company may have "manipulated" its executives' salaries higher in the months leading up to its Chapter 11 filing, in what the creditors called a possible effort by Hostess to "sidestep" Bankruptcy Code compensation provisions.

The committee representing Hostess's unsecured creditors alleges that information it has gathered suggests "the possibility" that the company converted a chunk of its top executives' pay from performance-based bonuses to salary, "at least in part to sidestep" rules designed to ensure that companies in bankruptcy aren't enticing their employees to stay on board with the promise of cash, according to documents filed with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in White Plains, N.Y.

Last July, the court documents said, the compensation committee of Hostess's board approved an increase in then-chief executive Brian Driscoll's salary from to $2.55 million from around $750,000. The company had hired restructuring lawyers in March 2011, the creditors said, and filed for bankruptcy protection on Jan. 11.

Besides Mr. Driscoll, "other executives' salaries were increased by from 35% to 80%," the creditors said. The documents said that Mr. Driscoll subsequently renounced a portion of the increase while "other executives did not appear to have done so." Besides Mr. Driscoll, two other executives who saw their salaries increase have also left the company, according to the spokesman.

65 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 5:18:52am

re: #63 A Mom Anon

I will bake you banana bread if you start using spaces after commas.

66 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 5:24:46am

re: #65 Obdicut

I will bake you banana bread if you start using spaces after commas.

If I had an oven, I'd use that line with my ESL students here. But their problem is using commas instead of periods (as in Chinese prose) or putting the space before the punctuation and sometimes also after.

I'd probably deplete the local markets of their banana supply, though.

67 makeitstop  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 5:26:52am

I apologize for not removing the link to the crazy site. I fell asleep.

Charles, if you feel it should go, feel free to remove it. Again, sorry all.

68 iossarian  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 5:34:30am

re: #65 Obdicut

I will bake you banana bread if you start using spaces after commas.

I knew it! "Obdicut" is nothing but a web-cloud artificial intelligence being. The only way it can be defeated is to omit the space after commas. This confuses its parser.

69 Flounder  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 5:36:35am

A few pic's of Broadwell and Patraeus,which I find a little creepy,btw.

70 Flounder  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 5:37:09am

[Link: www.nypost.com...]
I was too concerned with pissing Obdi off with my commas

71 Flounder  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 5:37:22am

;)

72 iossarian  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 5:40:54am

re: #69 Flounder

A few pic's of Broadwell and Patraeus,which I find a little creepy,btw.

THE DAMN BOOK IS CALLED "ALL IN"

73 iossarian  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 5:41:21am

Possibly the best single-entendre of my entire lifetime.

74 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 5:50:00am

Heh.
Here's a rip from a Slashdot comment (on Orca). Look who made the list 1/2 way down. Good company.

mrshowrules [TotalFark] 2012-10-30 12:44:56 PM

List of People Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefore, America
(LOPCATGOPATA for short):

Liberals, Democrats, Socialists, Community Organizers, Geologists, Biologists, Meteorologists, Climatologists, Atheists, Muslims, Jews, Satan, ABC, NBC, CNN, CBS, PBS, All of cable news except FNC, The New York Times, The LA Times, The Washington Post, The Associated Press, Reuters, BBC, The Guardian, Black People, Mexicans, Human Rights Activists, SCOTUS, Europe, Movie Industry, Television Industry, Environmentalists, ACLU, The United Nations, Labor Unions, Colleges, Teachers (including kindergarten teachers), Professors, ACORN, National Endowment for the Arts, Gays, Judges, NPR, Paleontologists, Astrophysicists, Museums (*except Creationism Museum), WHO, WTO, Inflated tires, The Honolulu Advertiser, The Star Bulletin, Teletubbies, Sponge Bob and Patrick, Nobel Prize Committee, US Census Bureau, NOAA, Sesame Street, Comic Books, Little Green Footballs, Video Games, The Bible, CBO, Bruce Springsteen, Pennies, The Theory of Relativity, Comedy Central, Young People, whatever the hell a Justin Beiber is, Small Business Owners, Math, CPAC, Navy SEALs, The Economist, The Muppets, Iowa Republicans, Low-Flow Toilets, Breast Cancer Screenings, Chrysler, Clint Eastwood., Robert Deniro, Tom Hanks, Glenn Frey, Norman Rockwell, James Cameron, Dr. Seus, Nuns, Supreme Court Justice John Roberts, Jonathan Krohn at age 17, Fact Checkers, Australia, Mitt Romney, Rasmussen, Fox News, Lockheed Martin, Bureau of Labor Statistics, Paul Ryan, Debate moderators, Ben Stein, Soup kitchens, Chris Christie

And now we can add "The IT Department" to the list.

75 Tigger2  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 6:03:44am

re: #42 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society

12. Never trust a man in a blue trenchcoat.
13. Never drive a car when you're dead.

re: #21 Dark_Falcon

Bobby "Non-consensual Exorcism" Jindal? Are you shitting me?

p.s. This online petition for a recount is full of bitter wingnut tears and conspiracy derp. Not as good as White People Mourning Romney, but enjoyable none the less. For the record, here is my contribution to the cause.

This one made me laugh, I voted for Obama and I know plenty of other white people that voted for Obama.

ITS A CONSPIRACY !! WHITE AMERICA WOULD NEVER VOTE IN A ***** PRESIDENT!! I MISS 1850 WHEN THERE WAS NO GAYS :(((( OR MUSLIMS OR MEXICANS

76 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 6:08:32am

re: #7 Kaessa

re: #13 Pawn of the Oppressor

re: #24 makeitstop

The right has gone berserk and it has percolated down to the masses.
My formerly sane brother (not Judas the wife-stealer) has fallen under the influence of a crazed fundy church and is guzzling their kool-aid in gallon buckets. He posted a violent anti-Islam screed on his FB page this morning, one I won't even quote here.
We are going to see some violence. I don't know where or when, or how bad, but you can't have millions of armed, delusional, foaming-at-the-mouth angry people without at least some of them acting out.

77 Flounder  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 6:13:55am

re: #75 Tigger2

14.Never trust a man with two first names

78 iossarian  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 6:16:41am

re: #77 Flounder

14.Never trust a man with two first names

15. Always read all 63 pages of the updated iTunes contract.

79 A Mom Anon  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 6:25:57am

re: #65 Obdicut

Fine. Geesh. Of course what I actually said, oh hell never freaking mind....

(goes off to ponder the meaning of life and to bake, not banana bread but pumpkin chocolate chip muffins, and no, I am not sharing, so there, ha)

80 darthstar  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 6:29:41am

Mornin' citizens.

81 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 6:43:11am

re: #74 Decatur Deb

Heh.
Here's a rip from a Slashdot comment (on Orca). Look who made the list 1/2 way down. Good company.

mrshowrules [TotalFark] 2012-10-30 12:44:56 PM

List of People Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefore, America
(LOPCATGOPATA for short):

Liberals, Democrats, Socialists, Community Organizers, Geologists, Biologists, Meteorologists, Climatologists, Atheists, Muslims, Jews, Satan, ABC, NBC, CNN, CBS, PBS, All of cable news except FNC, The New York Times, The LA Times, The Washington Post, The Associated Press, Reuters, BBC, The Guardian, Black People, Mexicans, Human Rights Activists, SCOTUS, Europe, Movie Industry, Television Industry, Environmentalists, ACLU, The United Nations, Labor Unions, Colleges, Teachers (including kindergarten teachers), Professors, ACORN, National Endowment for the Arts, Gays, Judges, NPR, Paleontologists, Astrophysicists, Museums (*except Creationism Museum), WHO, WTO, Inflated tires, The Honolulu Advertiser, The Star Bulletin, Teletubbies, Sponge Bob and Patrick, Nobel Prize Committee, US Census Bureau, NOAA, Sesame Street, Comic Books, Little Green Footballs, Video Games, The Bible, CBO, Bruce Springsteen, Pennies, The Theory of Relativity, Comedy Central, Young People, whatever the hell a Justin Beiber is, Small Business Owners, Math, CPAC, Navy SEALs, The Economist, The Muppets, Iowa Republicans, Low-Flow Toilets, Breast Cancer Screenings, Chrysler, Clint Eastwood., Robert Deniro, Tom Hanks, Glenn Frey, Norman Rockwell, James Cameron, Dr. Seus, Nuns, Supreme Court Justice John Roberts, Jonathan Krohn at age 17, Fact Checkers, Australia, Mitt Romney, Rasmussen, Fox News, Lockheed Martin, Bureau of Labor Statistics, Paul Ryan, Debate moderators, Ben Stein, Soup kitchens, Chris Christie

And now we can add "The IT Department" to the list.

Why isn't Canada on that list?

82 darthstar  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 6:44:49am

re: #81 Vicious Babushka

Why isn't Canada on that list?

"whatever the hell Justin Bieber is" is already on the list.

83 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 6:47:09am

re: #82 darthstar

"whatever the hell Justin Bieber is" is already on the list.

It's a whatever, not a wherever.

84 darthstar  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 6:51:45am

re: #83 Vicious Babushka

It's a whatever, not a wherever.

good point

85 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 6:53:14am

re: #76 Shiplord Kirel

re: #13 Pawn of the Oppressor

re: #24 makeitstop

The right has gone berserk and it has percolated down to the masses.
My formerly sane brother (not Judas the wife-stealer) has fallen under the influence of a crazed fundy church and is guzzling their kool-aid in gallon buckets. He posted a violent anti-Islam screed on his FB page this morning, one I won't even quote here.
We are going to see some violence. I don't know where or when, or how bad, but you can't have millions of armed, delusional, foaming-at-the-mouth angry people without at least some of them acting out.

Trying to talk myself out of dumping 3 grand at the Dec gun show. You're not helping.

86 darthstar  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 6:54:06am

Days without a Mitt Romney siting: 6

So far, so good.

87 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 6:56:09am

re: #86 darthstar

Days without a Mitt Romney siting: 6

So far, so good.

He is probably at his estate in the Cayman Islands, surrounded by his piles and piles of money.

88 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:03:22am

Good morning lizards!

Great football this weekend. The Texas A&M's/Alabama game was exciting to watch and the Cowboys trouncing Philly was very satisfying.

89 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:03:31am

re: #86 darthstar

What about Ryan? Did he keep his House seat?

90 BongCrodny  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:10:28am

re: #22 freetoken

Or, as an editorial I linked earlier today put it, the GOP primaries were immersed in a "fog of buffoonery".

"Fog of buffoonery" should be a tag.

91 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:15:56am

Damn, I hope the terrorists don't take this idiot's advise.

Salafist leader wants Pyramids destroyed

CAIRO, Nov. 12 (UPI) -- A Salafist leader called on authorities to destroy the Pyramids and Sphinx in Giza, one of Egypt's famous tourist sites, saying the "idols" must be removed.

"All Muslims are charged with applying the teaching of Islam to remove such idols as we did in Afghanistan when we destroyed the Buddha statue," the Egypt Independent quoted Murgan Salem-al Gohary as saying in an interview on Egyptian Dream TV during the weekend.

Gohary, described as a Jihadist leader who advocates violence and has links to the Taliban, was sentenced twice under former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and fled to Afghanistan where he was injured during an American airstrike, the Egyptian daily said Monday.

In 2007, he traveled to Syria and was handed over to Egyptian authorities. An Egyptian court ordered his release from prison after Mubarak's downfall, the newspaper said.

92 Gus  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:16:06am

re: #89 wheat-dogghazi

What about Ryan? Did he keep his House seat?

Yes.

93 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:17:14am

re: #91 NJDhockeyfan

Damn, I hope the terrorists don't take this idiot's advise.

Salafist leader wants Pyramids destroyed

Impossible, the Pyramids will destroy them first.

94 Gus  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:23:17am

Salafist leader wants Pyramids destroyed...

Again.

Please come back in 90s days and we'll repeat this "story."

95 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:27:50am

re: #91 NJDhockeyfan

I think it'd be kind of hilarious to watch people try to destroy a pyramid.

Also, better than killing people.

96 Gus  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:29:12am
97 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:32:20am

Things are heating up in the ME. The terrorists in Gaza have stepped up shooing rockets into Israel for the past 4 days and the Syrians have fired mortars into the Golan. Israel have fired back for both attacks. I expect Israel to be condemned for defending itself and protests to follow.

Israel Trades Shots with Both Gaza and Syria

Israel's military fired weapons into Syria for the second straight day in response to errant cross-border firing that threatens to draw the Israeli's into Syria's civil war. For the second time in two days, mortar fire from the Syrian military landed in the Golan Heights, the Israel-controlled territory that serves as a buffer between the two countries. The Israel Defense Forces fired back, claiming they landed "direct hits" on the source of the mortar fire. On Sunday, the IDF fired one missile as a "warning shot" after a similar accidental mortar strike.

There were no reports of injuries on either side, but the Syria government's talent for sowing chaos among its neighbors is not an encouraging sign for the situation in the Middle East. The U.N. has urged restraint from both sides, but such urging has not done much to slow any of the violence in the Syrian civil war.

At the same time that their northern neighbors are stirring up trouble, a similar missile-mortar campaign is escalating in Gaza, on Israel's southern end. More than 100 Palenstinian rockets have been fired into Israel in the last four days and despite several deadly counterstrikes in retaliation, the situation does not seem to be abating. That's prompting some officials on the Israeli side to contemplate a more drastic solution to the problem, with one senior security minister ominously stating that "it is necessary to re-format Gaza altogether." Israel must appear resolute in the face the Palestinian attacks, but the only possible definition of "re-format" would be an invasion and the removal of Hamas from the territory. That's a situation no one actually wants, including Egypt, which is furiously trying to make the peace. The last thing the IDF wants to be doing is fighting a two-war front

98 Gus  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:32:56am

Lost to History: Missing War Records Complicate Benefit Claims by Iraq, Afghanistan Veterans

A strange thing happened when Christopher DeLara filed for disability benefits after his tour in Iraq: The U.S. Army said it had no records showing he had ever been overseas.

DeLara had searing memories of his combat experiences. A friend bled to death before his eyes. He saw an insurgent shoot his commander in the head. And, most hauntingly, he recalled firing at an Iraqi boy who had attacked his convoy.

The Army said it could find no field records documenting any of these incidents...

99 Gus  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:33:20am
100 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:35:15am

re: #98 Gus

That's really depressing.

101 Gus  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:38:38am

re: #100 Obdicut

That's really depressing.

Especially in this digital age. Should be no excuse. But I guess some command units were too busy thinking about "spiritual fitness" or something. Now they have to provide proof of a combat incident? That could take years in some cases with no guaranteed results.

102 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:40:08am
103 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:45:46am

Yeah, good luck with that:

104 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:45:46am

re: #92 Gus

Figures. So, we'll have Goober Pyle around for another two years, channeling the ghost of Ayn Rand into public policy.

One wonder what Mittens will do, now that his principal hobby for the past several years is dead and gone.

105 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:45:58am

OMG...I hope this isn't true.

Elmo Puppeteer Takes Leave from “Sesame Street,” Denies Sex Allegations

The puppeteer who has played Elmo for nearly three decades has taken leave from “Sesame Street” in the wake of “unsubstantiated” underage sex allegations against him, according to Sesame Workshop.

In a statement on its website, Sesame Workshop said it received a “communication” in June from a 23-year-old man who claimed to have been in a relationship with Elmo puppeteer Kevin Clash when he was 16.

The organization said it “took the allegation very seriously and took immediate action,” finding that Clash had “exercised poor judgment and violated company policy regarding internet usage and he was disciplined.”

But Sesame Workshop said that after meeting with Clash’s accuser twice it could not substantiate his claim of underage conduct.

“Kevin insists that the allegation of underage conduct is false and defamatory and he is taking actions to protect his reputation,” Sesame Workshop said. “We have granted him a leave of absence to do so.”

106 Mattand  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:48:31am

re: #91 NJDhockeyfan

Damn, I hope the terrorists don't take this idiot's advise.

Salafist leader wants Pyramids destroyed

I think this falls under the category of "Seriously, that's what keeps you up at night?"

107 Gus  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:48:56am

re: #105 NJDhockeyfan

OMG...I hope this isn't true.

Elmo Puppeteer Takes Leave from “Sesame Street,” Denies Sex Allegations

108 Mattand  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:49:45am

re: #105 NJDhockeyfan

OMG...I hope this isn't true.

Elmo Puppeteer Takes Leave from “Sesame Street,” Denies Sex Allegations

I didn't like the way Elmo was eyeing the Sphinx in their episode about Egypt.

109 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:50:23am

re: #108 Mattand

I didn't like the way Elmo was eyeing the Sphinx in their episode about Egypt.

Elmo would be underage compared to the Sphinx.

110 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:50:35am

re: #107 Gus

Memo to GOP: Keep your hands to yourself. Do not touch my America's Test Kitchen.

111 erik_t  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:51:36am

re: #104 wheat-dogghazi

One wonder what Mittens will do, now that his principal hobby for the past several years is dead and gone.

Losing never stopped him before. Maybe he'll run again!

112 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:51:53am
113 Gus  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:52:01am

re: #110 PhillyPretzel

Memo to GOP: Keep your hands to yourself. Do not touch my America's Test Kitchen.

Teabaggers: guilty until proven innocent and then associate said guilty person to that organization. Repeat.

114 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:53:17am

re: #113 Gus

That is how it is done. /

115 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:54:28am

re: #111 erik_t

Losing never stopped him before. Maybe he'll run again!

May Bob have mercy on our souls.

116 Joanne  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:54:34am

re: #24 makeitstop

Holy shit. I've come across super-derp.

(A link from one of my sister's FB posts. If it's inappropriate, let me know and I'll remove the link. I just found it staggering in its abject stupidity.)

I love this:

OBAMA represents a clear and present danger to U.S. national security, to the U.S. Constitution and to our Republican form of government. OBAMA IS A FOREIGN BORN DOMESTIC ENEMY! OBAMA is working assiduously to destroy America! No document record exists showing Barack Hussein OBAMA to be a United States citizen.

Aside from the birther nonsense, really? We have a Republican form of government? Is that obstruction to the nth degree? Holding America hostage to get whatever they want to damage a democratically elected president, for pure politics?

That's the only Republican form of government I am aware of.

117 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:55:33am

Inquiring minds want to know:

[Link: www.facebook.com...]

118 Gus  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:56:16am

re: #114 PhillyPretzel

That is how it is done. /

Alternate Tweet:

So does the #GOP new demographic outreach include Christian adulterers supported by tax-funded CIA?

//

119 Mattand  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:56:21am

re: #107 Gus

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120 dragonath  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:57:53am

re: #96 Gus

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You... you are not of the body!

That made me laugh.

121 Gus  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 7:58:35am

re: #120 dragonath

You... you are not of the body!

That made me laugh.

More of that left-wing radical extremism from Daily Kos.

//

122 dragonath  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:01:00am

re: #121 Gus

More of that left-wing radical extremism from Daily Kos.

//

123 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:02:30am

re: #107 Gus

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Freeper response is as predictable as the sunrise:

"Isn't that street cred to the Dems?"

"Romney was RIGHT! Defund not just Big Bird, but ALL of Sesame Street!
‘Tickle-Me-Elmo’ has taken on a whole new meaning!"

"Beware!
Leftists use Muppets as a groping glove."

"Your tax dollars at work."

Nobody has pointed out the guy may not be guilty or, if he is, how exactly this is causally linked to federal funding of PBS.

124 Gus  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:07:22am

re: #123 Shiplord Kirel

Freeper response is as predictable as the sunrise:

Nobody has pointed out the guy may not be guilty or, if he is, how exactly this is causally linked to federal funding of PBS.

Glossed over it this morning and knew that the wingnuts would take the PBS route. Seems like a strange case. Let the authorities handle it. Otherwise if we're going to talk PBS in this context can we talk about the Holy See?

125 Gus  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:11:50am

The wingnuts are taking the election results rather well...

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” – Thomas Jefferson

To be clear, we are not calling for a violent uprising. But we are calling for a legal, civil disobedience uprising, designed to lead to the termination of the present regime. In advance of further, specific details which we are developing, here is a brief, broad outline that sets the table, Peter Ackerman’s summary of the essentials of successful modern revolutions:

Any civil resistance movement must have three ingredients to succeed: unification around a vision for the future, in most cases a constitutional democracy, and a leadership for the transition period; a diverse set of nonviolent tactics that cause significant disruption to the prevalent order; and planning on how to sequence those tactics to maximize effect so that the military and the regime are split.

This is not about nullifying a lost election. This is about nullifying the intolerable, America-killing consequences of that election, before they happen.

Developing…


-- Pat Dollard

126 Mattand  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:12:12am
127 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:13:57am

WHAT A COLLECTION OF STUPID

128 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:14:17am

A good read this Monday morning:

Why Romney Never Saw It Coming

How did the Romney team get it so wrong? According to those involved, it was a mix of believing anecdotes about party enthusiasm and an underestimation of their opponents’ talents. The Romney campaign thought Obama’s base had lost its affection for its candidate. They believed Obama would win only if he won over independent voters. So Romney focused on independents and the economy, which was their key issue. The Republican ground game was focused on winning those voters.

So they believed their own hype, unskewed their own polls, and basically just ignored the reality on the ground by focusing on their imaginary narrative.

And this was supposed to be the campaign run by grown-ups with business acumen? Really?

129 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:17:26am

re: #125 Gus

The wingnuts are taking the election results rather well...


-- Pat Dollard

LOLWUT

I still want these dipshits to explain to me how America has become an apocalyptic wasteland over the last four years. Last I checked, we're not living in a Fallout game.

130 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:17:41am

re: #61 BARACK THE VOTE

This White People Mourning Romney tumblr is awesome! Sweet, sweet wingnut tears.

Image: ewCI8.jpg

131 Gus  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:18:40am

re: #129 Lidane

LOLWUT

I still want these dipshits to explain to me how America has become an apocalyptic wasteland over the last four years. Last I checked, we're not living in a Fallout game.

It's the same crap we heard back in 2009.

132 Gus  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:19:23am

re: #129 Lidane

LOLWUT

I still want these dipshits to explain to me how America has become an apocalyptic wasteland over the last four years. Last I checked, we're not living in a Fallout game.

This is fun...

[Link: twitter.com...]

133 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:19:32am

re: #131 Gus

It's the same crap we heard back in 2009.

We also heard it back in 1996 after Clinton got re-elected.

It's very tiresome.

134 Gus  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:21:12am

Derp.

135 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:23:38am

re: #132 Gus

This is fun...

[Link: twitter.com...]

BWAHAHAA!

136 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:24:01am

re: #134 Gus

Derp.

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Because the same 100+ EV victory that would have been a landslide for Romney is a squeaker for Obama.

El Oh El.

137 OhNoZombies!  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:25:07am

re: #85 Decatur Deb

Trying to talk myself out of dumping 3 grand at the Dec gun show. You're not helping.

Actual Conversation with hubby the day after the election:
"Goin' to the store after work, I'll be a little late."
"What for? Cause I need..."
"Not that store, I'm goin' to buy more bullets," he says. "Some of these White Folks are about to lose their damn minds."
So I say, "See ya later!"

138 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:25:27am

BWAHAHAA!

139 Gus  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:25:52am

re: #136 Lidane

Because the same 100+ EV victory that would have been a landslide for Romney is a squeaker for Obama.

El Oh El.

140 dragonath  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:26:54am

re: #127 Vicious Babushka

WHAT A COLLECTION OF STUPID

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A tattoo of Mike Tyson with his tattoo? That's like, multiple layers of meta.

141 makeitstop  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:27:19am

re: #129 Lidane

LOLWUT

I still want these dipshits to explain to me how America has become an apocalyptic wasteland over the last four years. Last I checked, we're not living in a Fallout game.

This isn't even the minority view of cranks any more. This seems to be the prevailing attitude of most conservatives at this point. I can count the number of conservatives I've seen repudiating this crap on one hand and still have a few fingers left over.

It's one hell of an argument for the power of brainwashing.

142 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:27:42am

BWAHAHAA!

143 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:28:08am
144 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:28:15am

re: #138 Vicious Babushka

BWAHAHAA!

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How does one get 108% of the votes?

145 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:29:40am

re: #140 dragonath

A tattoo of Mike Tyson with his tattoo? That's like, multiple layers of meta.

Check this one out.

[Link: www.newsplex.com...]

146 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:29:42am

re: #144 NJDhockeyfan

How does one get 108% of the votes?

DERP math!

147 Gus  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:30:46am

re: #138 Vicious Babushka

BWAHAHAA!

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About Us

Vision To America is a division of Christian Worldview Communications, LLC. Founded in 2006 by Gary DeMar and Brandon Vallorani, Vision to America exists to help America return to our Founding Father’s vision for a Christian Republic. America was once a light to the world—a place that God blessed with liberty and prosperity. Today, Americans are taught that the Almighty State has all the answers. As a result, our God-given liberties are being traded for a false sense of security. It is our Vision to see Americans once again recognize that we are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights and that this Creator is the God of the Bible.

148 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:32:12am
149 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:32:22am

re: #85 Decatur Deb

Trying to talk myself out of dumping 3 grand at the Dec gun show. You're not helping.

re: #125 Gus

The wingnuts are taking the election results rather well...


-- Pat Dollard

Check out that gun show. Three grand is excessive unless you want to go class 3 though. Go 12 gauge for close encounters, .22 for practice (lots of it) .

150 Mattand  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:33:05am

re: #139 Gus

151 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:33:22am

re: #141 makeitstop

This isn't even the minority view of cranks any more. This seems to be the prevailing attitude of most conservatives at this point. I can count the number of conservatives I've seen repudiating this crap on one hand and still have a few fingers left over.

It's one hell of an argument for the power of brainwashing.

It's also a hell of an argument for just how much of an uphill battle it's going to be to get the GOP and the conservative movement back to facing reality.

How do you get through to people who are utterly convinced that the entire world around them is the exact opposite of how things really are?

152 dragonath  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:34:21am

re: #145 NJDhockeyfan

Leader of the notorious Spicy Potpourri gang.

153 Gus  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:34:28am

re: #150 Mattand

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Hand wringers! I'm not hand wringing. I'm just using reality to gloat from time to time. They're still living in the their Fox News bubble.

154 Gus  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:36:30am

LOL Now the right wingers are linking to Before it is News.

155 makeitstop  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:37:31am

re: #151 Lidane

It's also a hell of an argument for just how much of an uphill battle it's going to be to get the GOP and the conservative movement back to facing reality.

How do you get through to people who are utterly convinced that the entire world around them is the exact opposite of how things really are?

I have to admit that I have no idea.

Someone once said that Fox News was more of a social engineering experiment than a news channel. I'm starting to think that person was right on the money. Nearly half the damn population of this country is deep in denial and feeding on hate. How the fuck do you fix that?

156 lostlakehiker  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:38:28am

re: #104 wheat-dogghazi

Figures. So, we'll have Goober Pyle around for another two years, channeling the ghost of Ayn Rand into public policy.

One wonder what Mittens will do, now that his principal hobby for the past several years is dead and gone.

"One" needn't worry. He's been active in the Mormon church all along. He's actually done a good job with it from accounts of friends and beneficiaries. Just because Romney is a Republican doesn't mean that he's the heart of darkness, and a soul-less plutocrat. He has a life outside of politics.

157 makeitstop  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:39:12am

re: #154 Gus

LOL Now the right wingers are linking to Before it is News.

Breitbart and Drudge just don't provide the kick that they need any more.

Fucking amazing and disturbing to watch.

158 Gus  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:43:05am

re: #157 makeitstop

Breitbart and Drudge just don't provide the kick that they need any more.

Fucking amazing and disturbing to watch.

Election trutherism.

159 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:43:11am

Troofer news!

Woody Harrelson, Martin Sheen In 9/11 "Truther" Film

Martin Sheen and Woody Harrelson are two A-list celebs making the terrible, terrible decision to appear in a forthcoming 9/11 "truther" film called September Morn.

The flick, due in 2013, will present some of the theories that 9/11 conspiracy theorists spout regarding the American government being behind the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Sheen, Harrelson, and the film's other star Ed Asner have all independently made comments in interviews over the years confirming they believe there may be some legitimacy to trutherism.

According to the 12 Angry Men reference in flick's description on IMDB, September Morn sees itself as more noble than "tin foil hat":

"We the people demand that the government revisit and initiates a thorough and independent investigation to the tragic events of 911. In the vein of '12 Angry Men' this dramatic piece is set with a stellar and award winning cast."

Heh.

160 Joanne  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:43:14am

re: #63 A Mom Anon

They still insist that it's about "image","presentation...

Shorter GOP: We Didn't Lie Well Enough

161 Gus  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:43:42am

11/6 was an inside job man!
-- Wingnut

162 erik_t  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:43:44am

re: #156 lostlakehiker

"One" needn't worry. He's been active in the Mormon church all along. He's actually done a good job with it from accounts of friends and beneficiaries. Just because Romney is a Republican doesn't mean that he's the heart of darkness, and a soul-less plutocrat. He has a life outside of politics.

He's done a good job with his accounts and the Mormon church, but maybe not in the way you mean.

163 dragonath  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:47:09am

re: #154 Gus

LOL Now the right wingers are linking to Before it is News.

I guess you could say their cosmic vibrations are really oscillating wildly right now.

164 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:48:42am

re: #159 NJDhockeyfan

Troofer news!

Woody Harrelson, Martin Sheen In 9/11 "Truther" Film

Heh.

Damn, just damn. The right-wing barbarians are at the gate and these suicidal moonbats are battering at the walls from the inside.

165 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:50:25am

re: #156 lostlakehiker

"One" needn't worry. He's been active in the Mormon church all along. He's actually done a good job with it from accounts of friends and beneficiaries.

Except for the woman that needed to get an abortion for medical reasons who he tried to talk out of it, that is.

I mean, unless that is doing a good job of it, 'good' is so hard to figure out.

166 Joanne  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:52:01am

re: #86 darthstar

Days without a Mitt Romney siting: 6

So far, so good.

I can stand looking at Mitt. It's Ann I cannot tolerate. The thought of that entitled, nasty woman as 1st lady gives me the shudders.

167 Joanne  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:52:17am

re: #89 wheat-dogghazi

What about Ryan? Did he keep his House seat?

Unfortunately, yes.

168 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:53:06am

re: #161 Gus

11/6 was an inside job man!
-- Wingnut

Heh. Pretty much.

169 Interesting Times  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:53:52am

re: #166 Joanne

I can stand looking at Mitt. It's Ann I cannot tolerate. The thought of that entitled, nasty woman as 1st lady gives me the shudders.

What, you mean you weren't looking forward to this for the next four years? :P

170 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:57:01am

Where did this "Obama won 108% of the Ohio vote" crap come from (apart from someone's ass, evidently)? I didn't pay much attention to the interwebs over the weekend, and now suddenly this keeps popping up.

171 dragonath  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:57:28am

Dammit Gus, this Before It's News site is some heavy shit. It's like a serious Weekly World News.

Gog and Magog and the Coming Russian Invasion

Satan, who transforms himself, into an Angel of Light

New Mysterious "Booms" Reported in New Jersey

Governor Christie, is that you?

172 Ben G. Hazi  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:57:41am

re: #167 Joanne

Unfortunately, yes.

That, I think, says a lot.

While Romney and the yes men running the campaign apparently didn't think they could lose, Ryan hedged his bets, didn't resign his seat when he got tapped as the VP pick, and kept his re-election bid going.

Despite what his (execrable) policy positions are, that tells me that even Ryan didn't think it was a sure thing that he and Mitt would win.

173 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:58:19am

re: #170 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

Where did this "Obama won 108% of the Ohio vote" crap come from (apart from someone's ass, evidently)?

Republican math.

174 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:59:03am

Must be those New Black Panthers!


175 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:00:18am

re: #149 Shiplord Kirel

re: #125 Gus

Check out that gun show. Three grand is excessive unless you want to go class 3 though. Go 12 gauge for close encounters, .22 for practice (lots of it) .

2 upgraded Saiga 12s, though the reviews are turning against them.

176 makeitstop  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:01:00am

re: #171 dragonath

Dammit Gus, this Before It's News site is some heavy shit. It's like a serious Weekly World News.

Gog and Magog and the Coming Russian Invasion

Satan, who transforms himself, into an Angel of Light

New Mysterious "Booms" Reported in New Jersey

Governor Christie, is that you?

Even most of the ads on the site are in one way or another blaming Obama for something.

It's like bath salts for wingnuts, because the crystal meth/crack cocktail of WND just ain't cutting it any more.

177 Kaessa  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:01:15am

Just deleted my Facebook account. Called out my Daughter-in-law on calling liberals "Just like Hitler", and she's all "Oh, I didn't see that Hitler part, but the rest of it still counts".

And my son, "But we weren't saying YOU were like Hitler, just liberals".

Derp. Can't take it any more.

178 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:01:18am
179 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:02:10am

re: #171 dragonath

Dammit Gus, this Before It's News site is some heavy shit. It's like a serious Weekly World News.

Gog and Magog and the Coming Russian Invasion

Satan, who transforms himself, into an Angel of Light

New Mysterious "Booms" Reported in New Jersey

Governor Christie, is that you?

Well, as I said in my last secret report, we haven't yet managed to suppress the sonic booms from our new VTOL attack/abduction drones. They are very quiet otherwise, though, just an insectoid rustle from their wings as they swoop down and grab the miscreants right out of their SUVs and golf carts. With mach 2 capability, they can deliver each load to the Denver FEMA processing center in a couple of hours.

181 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:03:23am

re: #177 Kaessa

Just deleted my Facebook account. Called out my Daughter-in-law on calling liberals "Just like Hitler", and she's all "Oh, I didn't see that Hitler part, but the rest of it still counts".

And my son, "But we weren't saying YOU were like Hitler, just liberals".

Derp. Can't take it any more.

There was this idiot posting on Twitter "Obama is just like Hitler" so I asked "If that's true, how come you are still posting on Twitter and not in some death camp?" The wingnut's response: "Aieeeeee! Vicious Babushka wants to put me in a death camp!"

183 Gus  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:04:23am

re: #182 Vicious Babushka

WTF?

Seriously.

184 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:04:36am

Frum takes modern conservatives to task...
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

185 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:05:07am
186 wrenchwench  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:05:29am

re: #177 Kaessa

Just deleted my Facebook account. Called out my Daughter-in-law on calling liberals "Just like Hitler", and she's all "Oh, I didn't see that Hitler part, but the rest of it still counts".

And my son, "But we weren't saying YOU were like Hitler, just liberals".

Derp. Can't take it any more.

Oddly enough, I found this article (posted at the top) at Facebook. I have a very smart and reasonable sister in law. Three of them, in fact. Better than the blood relatives.

187 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:06:11am

re: #180 Gus

Ben Shapiro of Breitbart see new Bond film and sees gay people.

*sigh*

These people have way too much fucking time on their hands.

188 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:06:16am

re: #180 Gus

Ben Shapiro of Breitbart see new Bond film and sees gay people.

Wow, what a weirdo.

This insistence that every character could be straight or gay, man or woman, is asinine.

Of course every character could be any sexual preference. They're goddamn fictional characters. Fictional. Batman didn't used to be so freaking psycho and brooding, he worked his way up to it. When Shakespeare re-used a shitload of plots, he changed all kinds of crap. They are fictional characters. Deal with it.

The left has insisted for decades that sexuality is entirely defined by biology.

Ah, good, another pretend fact from made-up-conservative-wimpy-bubble land.

189 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:07:29am
190 dragonath  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:08:11am

Gingrich was already dumb, he didn't need to find it.

191 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:08:12am
192 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:08:40am

Also:

Bond is Bond because he’s so traditionally masculine.

It's like this guy has never met a gay person in his life and thinks that screaming queens are the only kind of gay person.

Here's a gay guy. I don't have my masculine-o-meter as finely tuned as Ben Shapiros, and don't spend as much time evaluating my fellow men on their musky masculinity, but this gay dude looks pretty manly to me:

[Link: phillips.blogs.com...]

193 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:09:33am

re: #188 Obdicut

When Shakespeare re-used a shitload of plots, he changed all kinds of crap.

It would have blown Ben Shaprio's mind to learn that back in Shakespeare's day, all the female characters were played by men in drag.

194 Mattand  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:09:48am

re: #164 Shiplord Kirel

Heh.

Damn, just damn. The right-wing barbarians are at the gate and these suicidal moonbats are battering at the walls from the inside.

Take comfort in the fact that in the case of the moonbats, they don't create policy for the Democratic party they way the wingnuts do for the GOP.

195 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:10:13am

re: #193 Lidane

It would have blown Ben Shaprio's mind to learn that back in Shakespeare's day, all the female characters were played by men in drag.

One of my favorite urban legends from that time is that a famous actor who played only women was actually a woman dressing in drag to play a man who dressed in drag to play women.

196 dragonath  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:10:55am
197 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:11:57am

re: #195 Obdicut

One of my favorite urban legends from that time is that a famous actor who played only women was actually a woman dressing in drag to play a man who dressed in drag to play women.

"Shakespeare in Love"

198 Ben G. Hazi  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:12:23am

re: #180 Gus

Ben Shapiro of Breitbart see new Bond film and sees gay people.

I wonder how he feels about the rumors that Idris Elba is being considered to succeed Craig as Bond...

199 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:13:35am

re: #196 dragonath

Ben Shapiro of Breitbart watches John Waters film

I'd say the guy on the left is pretty masculine, if you pass over the fact that he's a transvestite nun.

Image: 2358676236_4c644f9e48_z.jpg

I miss the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence.

200 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:13:48am

re: #195 Obdicut

One of my favorite urban legends from that time is that a famous actor who played only women was actually a woman dressing in drag to play a man who dressed in drag to play women.

There's a similar urban legend about a female Pope who somehow worked her way up the Vatican hierarchy while hiding her gender. I always laugh at stories like that.

201 Joanne  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:14:54am

re: #170 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

Where did this "Obama won 108% of the Ohio vote" crap come from (apart from someone's ass, evidently)? I didn't pay much attention to the interwebs over the weekend, and now suddenly this keeps popping up.

Republican math?

202 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:15:06am

re: #200 Lidane

There's a similar urban legend about a female Pope who somehow worked her way up the Vatican hierarchy while hiding her gender. I always laugh at stories like that.

An old legend, used I think by GB Shaw in "Pope Joan".

203 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:15:07am

re: #200 Lidane

There's a similar urban legend about a female Pope who somehow worked her way up the Vatican hierarchy while hiding her gender. I always laugh at stories like that.

Brabra Streisand as Yentl!

204 Joanne  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:15:21am

re: #173 Lidane

GMTA!

205 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:15:36am

re: #198 Ben G. Hazi

I wonder how he feels about the rumors that Idris Elba is being considered to succeed Craig as Bond...

He'll react the same way the racist assholes did when Idris Elba got cast as Heimdall in Thor.

ZOMG! Norse gods British secret agents are supposed to be white! Eleventy!

///

206 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:15:57am

re: #202 Decatur Deb

An old legend, used I think by GB Shaw in "Pope Joan".

I know that GB Shaw had a play "Saint Joan" (about Joan of Arc) but I did not know he also wrote about "Pope Joan."

207 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:17:30am

re: #206 Vicious Babushka

I know that GB Shaw had a play "Saint Joan" (about Joan of Arc) but I did not know he also wrote about "Pope Joan."

Story is Pope Joan, could be wrong about Shaw:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

208 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:19:02am

I can certainly understand this...

David Petraeus Affair: Wife Holly Is Beyond 'Furious'

Fury is an inadequate description for Holly Petraeus' reaction after she learned that her CIA-director husband had an affair with his biographer, a former spokesman for David Petraeus told ABC News.

"Well, as you can imagine, she's not exactly pleased right now," retired U.S. Army Col. Steve Boylan said. "In a conversation with David Petraeus this weekend, he said that, 'Furious would be an understatement.' And I think anyone that's been put in that situation would probably agree. He deeply hurt the family."

I feel so sad for her and the whole family. What a jerk.

209 makeitstop  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:19:07am

Great. Along with all the other stupid crap going on, now we have to worry about alligators on Long Island.

This world's goin' nuts. Nuts, I tell ya.

210 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:20:30am

re: #192 Obdicut

Also:

It's like this guy has never met a gay person in his life and thinks that screaming queens are the only kind of gay person.

Here's a gay guy. I don't have my masculine-o-meter as finely tuned as Ben Shapiros, and don't spend as much time evaluating my fellow men on their musky masculinity, but this gay dude looks pretty manly to me:

[Link: phillips.blogs.com...]

Two more manly dudes:

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Not all gay guys are effeminate twinks.

211 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:21:21am

re: #208 NJDhockeyfan

I wish people would have the decency to not ask questions about the wife or talk about her. It's rough enough already on her. Reporters should show a little class.

212 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:22:52am

re: #209 makeitstop

Great. Along with all the other stupid crap going on, now we have to worry about alligators on Long Island.

This world's goin' nuts. Nuts, I tell ya.

Tomorrow's headline: Mayor Bloomberg claims Long Island Alligators "are an opportunity, not a problem". The mayor vows to push for alligator farm, praises the gator for its low-fat meat, and plans to require alligator meat in school lunches.

/kidding, but I wouldn't past Michael Bloomberg.

213 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:23:05am

The acceptance of homosexuality in the military is literally the end of the world for many on the right, since it undermines the whole power and control structure of their culture, especially the ability to control and manipulate the young. When I was a teenager in rural California, you were suspected of that ultimate crime, being a fag, if you:

-Refused to sacrifice your body and your spare time for the benefit of the local high school football team.
-Thought science and art might be a better bet than manual labor for improving your family's financial status.
-Tended to speak out against brutish coaches and abusive bosses.
-Thought a VW bug was a more rational choice than a muscle car or a pickup.
-Refused to adopt the approved standards of grooming and dress.
-Questioned the historical authenticity of certain religious claims.

There are many more. Homophobia is so important because it is a primary weapon against non-conformity.

FREEDOM FOR GAYS IS FREEDOM FOR EVERYONE.

214 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:24:13am

re: #211 Obdicut

I wish people would have the decency to not ask questions about the wife or talk about her. It's rough enough already on her. Reporters should show a little class.

Maybe when pigs fly the press will discover what class reporting consists of.

215 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:24:46am

re: #211 Obdicut

I wish people would have the decency to not ask questions about the wife or talk about her. It's rough enough already on her. Reporters should show a little class.

Not gonna happen. The Enraged Spouse is part of the drama cooked up in adultery scandals. It's not about class, its about selling advertising, magazines and newspapers.

216 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:24:51am

re: #214 NJDhockeyfan

Maybe when pigs fly the press will discover what class reporting consists of.

You can help out by not passing on stories talking about the wife and respect her privacy.

217 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:25:33am

re: #206 Vicious Babushka

I know that GB Shaw had a play "Saint Joan" (about Joan of Arc) but I did not know he also wrote about "Pope Joan."

Possible source of my confusion--a critical discussion of Shaw in "St. Joan":

[Link: books.google.com...]

218 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:25:41am

re: #213 Shiplord Kirel

The acceptance of homosexuality in the military is literally the end of the world for many on the right, since it undermines the whole power and control structure of their culture, especially the ability to control and manipulate the young. When I was a teenager in rural California, you were suspected of that ultimate crime, being a fag, if you:

I got called a fag a lot because I preferred to hang out with the girls.

Still don't really understand the logic of that one.

219 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:26:48am

re: #216 Obdicut

You can help out by not passing on stories talking about the wife and respect her privacy.

I suggest you stay away from news websites, radio stations, and TV if you wish to not hear about it. The press is going nuts over it. Pathetic if you ask me.

220 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:27:19am

re: #213 Shiplord Kirel

When I was a teenager in rural California, you were suspected of that ultimate crime, being a fag, if you:

-Refused to sacrifice your body and your spare time for the benefit of the local high school football team.
-Thought science and art might be a better bet than manual labor for improving your family's financial status.
-Tended to speak out against brutish coaches and abusive bosses.
-Thought a VW bug was a more rational choice than a muscle car or a pickup.
-Refused to adopt the approved standards of grooming and dress.
-Questioned the historical authenticity of certain religious claims.

I was widely consiered gay for the above reasons. The fact that i did not have a girlfriend or much anything to do with women had to do with my nerdishness and social ineptitude, not any lack of interest. But that was seen as further proof.
And it turns out a number of my best friends in high school and college later came out of the closet. I did not know (nor did they, I guess) back then that they were gay.

Which would be seen as furhter proof.

In the meantime I have had dozens of girlfriends (not at once) and fathered four children.

Of course anyone who watched Brokeback Mountain knew that is no proof and of itself...

221 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:27:21am

re: #218 Obdicut

I got called a fag a lot because I preferred to hang out with the girls.

Still don't really understand the logic of that one.

I must be a fag then. I love handing out with the girls.

222 makeitstop  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:27:59am

re: #212 Dark_Falcon

Tomorrow's headline: Mayor Bloomberg claims Long Island Alligators "are an opportunity, not a problem". The mayor vows to push for alligator farm, praises the gator for its low-fat meat, and plans to require alligator meat in school lunches.

/kidding, but I wouldn't past Michael Bloomberg.

Luckily, he doesn't run things out here.

And I will conceded, gator is tasty. But I don't want them hanging out in my yard.

223 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:28:15am

Can you think of any other reason that Mitt Romney might have gotten 0 votes in those precincts?

224 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:29:34am

re: #219 NJDhockeyfan

I suggest you stay away from news websites, radio stations, and TV if you wish to not hear about it. The press is going nuts over it. Pathetic if you ask me.

I generally do stay away from those. But it's hard to avoid, because people like gossiping about it.

Really, though, I think part of it is just being human rather than heartlessly trying to sell newspapers. After all, you don't have any profit motive, but you're still talking about how his wife must be feeling even though it'd probably embarrass her that you're doing so. I think part of the problem of reporters is just the problems of ordinary people magnified by platform.

225 erik_t  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:29:47am

re: #213 Shiplord Kirel

The acceptance of homosexuality in the military is literally the end of the world for many on the right, since it undermines the whole power and control structure of their culture, especially the ability to control and manipulate the young. When I was a teenager in rural California, you were suspected of that ultimate crime, being a fag...

There are many more. Homophobia is so important because it is a primary weapon against non-conformity.

Never even thought about this, honestly. But it's absolutely true.

226 Ben G. Hazi  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:30:17am

re: #223 Vicious Babushka

Can you think of any other reason that Mitt Romney might have gotten 0 votes in those precincts?

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Why am I imagining Fischer as Vizzini from The Princess Bride right now?

/inconceivable!

227 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:30:28am

re: #223 Vicious Babushka

Can you think of any other reason that Mitt Romney might have gotten 0 votes in those precincts?

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I'd assume they're neighborhoods composed of one of the many minority groups that the GOP has told to go pound sand.

228 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:30:44am

re: #222 makeitstop

Luckily, he doesn't run things out here.

And I will conceded, gator is tasty. But I don't want them hanging out in my yard.

Since moving here the percieved natural "gator line" has moved from south of us to north of us. Maybe when they get into the Potomac someone will take notice.

229 Joanne  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:30:50am

re: #221 NJDhockeyfan

I must be a fag then. I love handing out with the girls.

Nah, you'd be a fag hag. ;-D

230 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:31:39am

re: #227 Obdicut

I'd assume they're neighborhoods composed of one of the many minority groups that the GOP has told to go pound sand.

They must be all the places where that one old Black guy went and held doors open for people!1!ty

231 Kronocide  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:31:43am

re: #218 Obdicut

I got called a fag a lot because I preferred to hang out with the girls.

Still don't really understand the logic of that one.

Jealousy.

232 Gus  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:31:57am

re: #223 Vicious Babushka

Can you think of any other reason that Mitt Romney might have gotten 0 votes in those precincts?

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In 2008, McCain got zero votes in 57 Philadelphia voting divisions. That was a big increase from 2004, when George W. Bush was blanked in just five divisions.

233 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:32:17am

re: #218 Obdicut

I got called a fag a lot because I preferred to hang out with the girls.

Still don't really understand the logic of that one.

Did you go shopping for shoes with them?

234 Four More Tears  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:32:17am

re: #223 Vicious Babushka

Can you think of any other reason that Mitt Romney might have gotten 0 votes in those precincts?

[Embedded content]

Either:

A. voter fraud

or

B. they all want "stuff"

I think those are the only explanations that he'll accept.

235 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:32:39am

re: #229 Joanne

Nah, you'd be a fag hag. ;-D

A fag hag is a girl who hangs out with gay guys. I know that because I gleefully accepted that title in college. The gay guys I was hanging out with were way more interesting than the idiot frat boys I knew.

236 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:33:21am

DARVO on steroids

(Wingnut Vegas oddsmaker) Wayne Allyn Root, Who Predicted a Romney Landslide Says In Radio Interview It Doesn’t Make Sense. Romney Getting 2 Million Less Votes Than McCain “Is Not Possible As Sure as I’m Sitting Here”

‘In the gut of my stomach I still believe there was a landslide, something’s wrong’

He was on Bill Cunningham’s national program Sunday night. Root tells Bill that it is absolutely inexplicable that Romney could have 2 million less votes than McCain. It’s just not possible, it doesn’t compute

“Everyone that I know from the right went out, mobilized, motivated with more enthusiasm and more intensity than ever in history…Yet the bottom line is 2 million less votes? NOT POSSIBLE as sure as I’m sitting here”

237 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:33:37am

What a fucking asshat

238 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:34:19am

re: #237 Vicious Babushka

Gotta love that right wing minority outreach.

And they wonder why Romney lost the Latino vote by a 3-to-1 margin? Really?

239 makeitstop  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:34:24am
240 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:34:55am

re: #228 Decatur Deb

Since moving here the perceived natural "gator line" has moved from south of us to north of us. Maybe when they get into the Potomac someone will take notice.

I'd prefer to stock the Potomac with alligators and then give the public the right to fling one member of Congress from each party to the gators every year.

241 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:35:08am

re: #224 Obdicut

I generally do stay away from those. But it's hard to avoid, because people like gossiping about it.

Really, though, I think part of it is just being human rather than heartlessly trying to sell newspapers. After all, you don't have any profit motive, but you're still talking about how his wife must be feeling even though it'd probably embarrass her that you're doing so. I think part of the problem of reporters is just the problems of ordinary people magnified by platform.

They are always trying to get the scoop before someone else does. Face it, dirty embarrassing stories sell. That's why gossip magazines are so popular.

243 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:36:15am

re: #232 Gus

In 2008, McCain got zero votes in 57 Philadelphia voting divisions. That was a big increase from 2004, when George W. Bush was blanked in just five divisions.

Simple really: The people there love Barack Obama and feel his being president is a good thing.

244 b_Snark  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:36:25am

re: #201 Joanne

Republican math?

The idea is that the number of registered voters in Wood County Ohio is 108% of the eligible voters in that county and since Obama got the majority of votes that means he got the majority of the 'fraud' votes.

Obama got 31596 of 61967 votes.
Registered voters = 108014 (They claim 106,258).
They claim that eligible voters = 98,213

245 erik_t  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:36:27am

re: #237 Vicious Babushka

What a fucking asshat

Pretty unclear on how this is focusing on the family, douchecanoe.

246 Flounder  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:36:42am

re: #57 Flounder

Don't I feel sheepish, I thought today was Tuesday. Call of Duty Black Ops 2 comes out tomorrow! Even my fifteen year old daughter can't wait to get her zombie game on!
[Link: www.pcworld.com...]

247 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:36:54am

re: #233 Vicious Babushka

Did you go shopping for shoes with them?

No. But I did dissect a spiny dogfish with one. She had steady hands.

248 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:37:07am

re: #241 NJDhockeyfan

They are always trying to get the scoop before someone else does. Face it, dirty embarrassing stories sell. That's why gossip magazines are so popular.

Doesn't mean we should enable that sort of 'reporting', though.

249 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:37:22am

re: #218 Obdicut

I got called a fag a lot because I preferred to hang out with the girls.

Still don't really understand the logic of that one.

I had the opposite happen. I got called a lesbian because I preferred hanging out with boys over girls. Never mind the fact that I was just as boy crazy as any other straight teenage girl. I was hanging out with the boys and I had an opinion, so of course I must have been a lesbian. WTF.

That whole mentality is stupid.

250 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:37:25am

re: #241 NJDhockeyfan

They are always trying to get the scoop before someone else does. Face it, dirty embarrassing stories sell. That's why gossip magazines are so popular.

I'm perfectly willing to face it. I'm pointing out that you're part of their market, and if you don't like them, you can help stop this sort of gossipy bull by not engaging in it yourself.

251 Gus  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:38:27am

re: #240 Dark_Falcon

I'd prefer to stock the Potomac with alligators and then give the public the right to fling one member of Congress from each party to the gators every year.

I'm sure one could easily find some counties in the US where Obama received zero votes. People just want to create controversy and conspiracies at every turn. Sad really. From Benghazi to Petraeus and now? Elmo. Welcome to tabloid America.

252 b_Snark  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:38:41am

re: #220 Sol Berdinowitz

I was widely consiered gay for the above reasons. The fact that i did not have a girlfriend or much anything to do with women had to do with my nerdishness and social ineptitude, not any lack of interest. But that was seen as further proof.
And it turns out a number of my best friends in high school and college later came out of the closet. I did not know (nor did they, I guess) back then that they were gay.

Which would be seen as furhter proof.

In the meantime I have had dozens of girlfriends (not at once) and fathered four children.

Of course anyone who watched Brokeback Mountain knew that is no proof and of itself...

Sounds like Aspergers.

253 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:39:45am

re: #245 erik_t

Pretty unclear on how this is focusing on the family, douchecanoe.

Fischer can only focus on what's right in front of him. The purple hood (noting his high rank) limits his peripheral vision and the ropes threaten to show his slip if he turns his body too too far.

/snicker

254 makeitstop  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:39:49am

re: #236 Shiplord Kirel

DARVO on steroids

(Wingnut Vegas oddsmaker) Wayne Allyn Root, Who Predicted a Romney Landslide Says In Radio Interview It Doesn’t Make Sense. Romney Getting 2 Million Less Votes Than McCain “Is Not Possible As Sure as I’m Sitting Here”

It's really starting to get hard to laugh at this shit now.

It's like nearly half of the country has filed for divorce from reality.

255 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:40:02am

WOW. What the hell?

256 SteelGHAZI  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:40:18am

re: #220 Sol Berdinowitz

I was widely consiered gay for the above reasons. The fact that i did not have a girlfriend or much anything to do with women had to do with my nerdishness and social ineptitude, not any lack of interest. But that was seen as further proof.

Wow, you exactly described my high school years.

257 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:41:40am

re: #255 Lidane

WOW. What the hell?

[Embedded content]

Looks like he was heavily into drug use.

258 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:41:41am

re: #239 makeitstop

Rich kid from Connecticut 'jokes' about killing Obama

Follow-up headline: Trust Fund Baby Gets Spanked By Reality.

259 Flounder  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:42:08am

re: #251 Gus

I love Elmo! I'm the asshole in Walmart who activates every "laughing" Elmo on the end cap. Even my kids are embarrassed.

260 SteelGHAZI  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:42:27am

re: #258 Dark_Falcon

Follow-up headline: Trust Fund Baby Gets Spanked By Reality The Secret Service.

FTFY

261 Mattand  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:43:08am

re: #249 Lidane

I had the opposite happen. I got called a lesbian because I preferred hanging out with boys over girls. Never mind the fact that I was just as boy crazy as any other straight teenage girl. I was hanging out with the boys and I had an opinion, so of course I must have been a lesbian. WTF.

That whole mentality is stupid.

Christ, how I hate high school.

262 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:43:09am

re: #257 Vicious Babushka

Looks like he was heavily into drug use.

Get strung out, get stupid, then get into big trouble. Too many have gone down that path to Perdition.

263 b_Snark  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:43:16am

re: #249 Lidane

I had the opposite happen. I got called a lesbian because I preferred hanging out with boys over girls. Never mind the fact that I was just as boy crazy as any other straight teenage girl. I was hanging out with the boys and I had an opinion, so of course I must have been a lesbian. WTF.

That whole mentality is stupid.

264 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:44:25am

re: #260 SteelGHAZI

FTFY

Any law enforcement can play the role of "Reality" when it comes to letting a stupid young man know that his breaking the rules won't be tolerated.

265 makeitstop  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:45:45am

re: #255 Lidane

WOW. What the hell?

[Embedded content]

Damn. That is seriously weird.

266 Flounder  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:46:45am

re: #255 Lidane

yeah, he looks a bit haggard.

267 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:47:56am
268 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:48:16am

re: #259 Flounder

I love Elmo! I'm the asshole in Walmart who activates every "laughing" Elmo on the end cap. Even my kids are embarrassed.

In your honor then, sir:

269 nines09  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:49:26am

re: #267 Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

There's a moderate for you.

270 BongCrodny  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:49:46am

re: #139 Gus

[Embedded content]

I'm pretty sure the 407,000 comes from the narrowness of Obama's margin in some of the states he won -- for example, if 80,000 or so more people voted for Romney in Florida, that's 29 EV right there; if he gets 105,000 more votes in Ohio, that's another 18; 120,000 more gives Romney Virginia's 13.

So, IF and IF and IF and IF and IF -- Romney wins!

271 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:51:13am
272 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:52:56am
273 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:54:50am

re: #236 Shiplord Kirel

‘In the gut of my stomach I still believe there was a landslide, something’s wrong’

Ah, see, there's his problem right there. He needs to start believing things in his brain, and not in his apparently atypical digestive tract.

274 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:55:34am

I learned how to really attract girls after I started to college, and quite by accident. I had been blackmailed into baby sitting my brother Jeff, who was then 18 months old. After my folks left, I remembered I had a test I couldn't miss. In those long off days they would allow you to bring children to class if they didn't cause a disruption. I had doubts about Jeff's potential for sitting still long enough for me to take the test but, having no choice, I decided to risk it.
I packed the squawking monster up and headed for campus, utterly mortified. We were no sooner out of the car than girls, really attractive ones at that, started swarming us. "What an adorable little boy!" etc. Jeff beamed at the attention and behaved perfectly through the test. I took my time getting back to the car with him when I left. I volunteered to baby-sit the wonderful little sibling on class days. My mother was probably mystified by the change in my attitude. She might have suspected that I had turned gay, but I also started dating a lot more, and that probably put her mind at ease.

275 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:56:52am

If a state is not particularly vigilant about clearing recently deceased and recently moved names from it's registration rolls, a precinct can easily have a lot more 'registered' voters than it has adults. Just means the election officials are asleep at the switch, does not indicate fraud.

276 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:57:19am

re: #274 Shiplord Kirel

I rarely introduced girlfriends to my parents, mostly because I tended to date the crazy and also my parents are crazy so that's a lot of crazy to have in one room.

I found the secret to getting girls was talking to them. A lot of guys seem to think sitting in bookshops displaying "Franny and Zooey" and staring at the barrista is the pathway to success. I suggest talking instead.

277 erik_t  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:00:06am

re: #276 Obdicut

I suggest talking instead.

ARE YOU A WIZARD!?

-- 15-year-old erik_t

278 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:00:10am

re: #274 Shiplord Kirel

I read in some middle eastern country men may not be seen in public with kittens, as he might swoon a few females with the cuteness. When I take my Maine Coon cat out around the courtyard on my shoulder the pretty ladies sure come around.

279 Kronocide  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:01:16am

re: #276 Obdicut

I rarely introduced girlfriends to my parents, mostly because I tended to date the crazy and also my parents are crazy so that's a lot of crazy to have in one room.

I found the secret to getting girls was talking to them. A lot of guys seem to think sitting in bookshops displaying "Franny and Zooey" and staring at the barrista is the pathway to success. I suggest talking instead.

That, and cooking. Making a nice meal for them seemed to get me in good graces.

I'm sensing a pattern here....

280 GunstarGreen  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:01:57am

I am a heterosexual white male (and though not christian myself, come from heavily-christian family). I work 40+ hours a week and pay taxes like everyone else. Every time some GOP gasbag on the radio or the television tells me that the only reason I don't vote for his/her party is because I want free stuff, he/she guarantees that another election cycle will go by without my vote coming anywhere near the R column.

281 b_Snark  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:02:10am

re: #276 Obdicut

I rarely introduced girlfriends to my parents, mostly because I tended to date the crazy and also my parents are crazy so that's a lot of crazy to have in one room.

I found the secret to getting girls was talking to them. A lot of guys seem to think sitting in bookshops displaying "Franny and Zooey" and staring at the barrista is the pathway to success. I suggest talking instead.

I talked to them but only went out with the ones brave enough to ask me out. I couldn't figure out if they just wanted to talk or something more.

My base assumption was that boys wanted to beat me up and girls wanted me as a friend.

282 b_Snark  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:04:40am

re: #278 Daniel Ballard

I read in some middle eastern country men may not be seen in public with kittens, as he might swoon a few females with the cuteness. When I take my Maine Coon cat out around the courtyard on my shoulder the pretty ladies sure come around.

Donna, are you paying attention?

283 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:05:09am

A college friend of mine spent a ton of money on an Alfa Romeo in the belief that it would improve his chances with girls. He said later that the girls did in fact like his car. "They didn't pay any attention to me, but they liked the car," he mourned. Poor guy, all that dough down the drain when all he really needed was some kittens, a good cookbook, and a borrowed baby.

284 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:06:00am

re: #278 Daniel Ballard

I read in some middle eastern country men may not be seen in public with kittens, as he might swoon a few females with the cuteness. When I take my Maine Coon cat out around the courtyard on my shoulder the pretty ladies sure come around.

Do you remember those wall calenders of, like, shirtless firemen cuddling kittens and babies? Those were really popular among girls when I was in college. I guess it's the same thing that makes an elegantly dressed woman holding a crossbow hot.

285 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:06:17am

re: #278 Daniel Ballard

I read in some middle eastern country men may not be seen in public with kittens, as he might swoon a few females with the cuteness. When I take my Maine Coon cat out around the courtyard on my shoulder the pretty ladies sure come around.

the best humans are those who naturally swoon upon the sight on the Feline Overlords!

286 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:06:59am

re: #282 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)

Donna, are you paying attention?

She'll be back later after she finishes filling in those big holes in the garden. Sez we won't need so much fertilizer this spring. I wonder why? //

287 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:07:27am

Cue the wingnut head explosions. The New York Times praised Fox News. Sort of:

For One Night at Fox, News Tops Agenda

Over many months, Fox lulled its conservative base with agitprop: that President Obama was a clear failure, that a majority of Americans saw Mr. Romney as a good alternative in hard times, and that polls showing otherwise were politically motivated and not to be believed.

But on Tuesday night, the people in charge of Fox News were confronted with a stark choice after it became clear that Mr. Romney had fallen short: was Fox, first and foremost, a place for advocacy or a place for news?

In this moment, at least, Fox chose news.

288 b_Snark  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:08:11am

re: #286 Daniel Ballard

She'll be back later after she finishes filling in those big holes in the garden. Sez we won't need so much fertilizer this spring. I wonder why? //

Is your insurance up to date?

289 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:09:15am

re: #283 Shiplord Kirel

A college friend of mine spent a ton of money on an Alfa Romeo in the belief that it would improve his chances with girls. He said later that the girls did in fact like his car. "They didn't pay any attention to me, but they liked the car," he mourned. Poor guy, all that dough down the drain when all he really needed was some kittens, a good cookbook, and a borrowed baby.

The guy I know with the most animal magnetism and hypnotic effect on the opposite sex is a chess-playing oft-alcoholic who dropped out of high school, chainsmokes, and mutters "Your mother's a whore, Trebeck" when he's trying to remember something.

Takes all kinds.

290 b_Snark  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:10:27am

re: #289 Obdicut

The guy I know with the most animal magnetism and hypnotic effect on the opposite sex is a chess-playing oft-alcoholic who dropped out of high school, chainsmokes, and mutters "Your mother's a whore, Trebeck" when he's trying to remember something.

Takes all kinds.

Bad boy?

291 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:11:05am
292 makeitstop  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:12:07am
293 b_Snark  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:12:32am

re: #291 Lidane

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No shit.

294 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:14:06am

re: #287 Lidane

Cue the wingnut head explosions. The New York Times praised Fox News. Sort of:

For One Night at Fox, News Tops Agenda

Megyn Kelly and FNC just did what they had to do in that case. To have allowed Karl Roveto upend their decision desk would have been disastrous and then knew it. So they dug in and defended the desk's Ohio call.

295 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:15:22am

BBIAB

297 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:16:36am

re: #294 Dark_Falcon

Megyn Kelly and FNC just did what they had to do in that case. To have allowed Karl Roveto upend their decision desk would have been disastrous and then knew it. So they dug in and defended the desk's Ohio call.

Karl Rove had 390 million reasons not to want to accept that call...

298 Joanne  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:16:49am

re: #235 Lidane

Hate to say it, but I think that's a given. Frat boys are a study in group (grope) think.

299 GunstarGreen  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:17:03am

re: #291 Lidane

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The problem with the GOP's government-as-business line of reasoning is that government is, very specifically, the anti-business. The entire function of government is to fill social roles that are not profitable, at least not when executed morally -- prisons and law enforcement, disaster recovery, public infrastructure. A 'successful businessman' is no more qualified for government work than any other similarly-educated individual.

300 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:17:43am

re: #296 NJDhockeyfan

Cornel West: Obama a 'Republican in Blackface'

LIES! Everyone knows he's a Kenyan Socialist Marxist Nazi Commie Usurper who will send this country into the apocalypse!

/Freeper

301 Joanne  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:18:29am

re: #237 Vicious Babushka

What a fucking asshat

The best thing about Fisher is that him (and his ilk) drives people from being religious nutcakes. He (and those like him) are for the most part, a dying breed. Thank dog!

302 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:19:04am
303 Joanne  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:20:34am

re: #244 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)

The idea is that the number of registered voters in Wood County Ohio is 108% of the eligible voters in that county and since Obama got the majority of votes that means he got the majority of the 'fraud' votes.

Obama got 31596 of 61967 votes.
Registered voters = 108014 (They claim 106,258).
They claim that eligible voters = 98,213

My brain hurts at the butt hurt.

304 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:22:03am

Gotta run. Have a great day!

305 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:22:30am

re: #284 Obdicut

Do you remember those wall calenders of, like, shirtless firemen cuddling kittens and babies? Those were really popular among girls when I was in college. I guess it's the same thing that makes an elegantly dressed woman holding a crossbow hot.

Oh I do remember those. Still popular in some places though calendars are going the way of watches.

306 A Mom Anon  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:23:26am

re: #261 Mattand

My personal favorite bit of high school assholishness makes it bad to be smart. At SCHOOL. Seriously?

What is often missed in talking about "gay bashing" at school is that many of the kids being harassed and bullied are only perceived as being gay. My son has suffered tons of shit related to this. It doesn't seem like it's going to change until adults begin figuring out that being a man isn't being a dick to everyone and teaching their kids that none of this is ok.

307 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:31:17am

re: #306 A Mom Anon

What is often missed in talking about "gay bashing" at school is that many of the kids being harassed and bullied are only perceived as being gay.

I had that problem as well because I had little interest in sports or muscle cars, was more into art, literature and music. I would very much loved to have found girls to talk to that about in high school, but I did not start meeting ones like that until college.

308 b_Snark  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:31:36am

re: #306 A Mom Anon

My personal favorite bit of high school assholishness makes it bad to be smart. At SCHOOL. Seriously?

What is often missed in talking about "gay bashing" at school is that many of the kids being harassed and bullied are only perceived as being gay. My son has suffered tons of shit related to this. It doesn't seem like it's going to change until adults begin figuring out that being a man isn't being a dick to everyone and teaching their kids that none of this is ok.

OMG, you're talking about the feminization of schools!!!

309 jc717  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:32:03am

White
Late 30s
1%er

Supported McCain in 2000.
Now, will not even consider voting GOP until they push the crazies, religious right, and science deniers to the fringe. If you're incapable of looking at the evidence and seeing that the world is billions or years old, or acknowledging the reality of man's contribution to global warming (I can even live with 'yes, it's real, but the cure is worse than the disease' position), then I do not want them near the levers of power.
If you're too chicken sh!t to condemn unequivocally the worst elements of your party (like Romney failed to do with Murdoch or Rush), then you have no business being POTUS.

310 HappyWarrior  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:32:22am

re: #306 A Mom Anon

My personal favorite bit of high school assholishness makes it bad to be smart. At SCHOOL. Seriously?

What is often missed in talking about "gay bashing" at school is that many of the kids being harassed and bullied are only perceived as being gay. My son has suffered tons of shit related to this. It doesn't seem like it's going to change until adults begin figuring out that being a man isn't being a dick to everyone and teaching their kids that none of this is ok.

Yeah I got called gay because I was shy around girls well shy around everyone and didn't really have crushes on girls until 7th grade or so.

311 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:35:34am

I was really bored last night and watched Gangs of New York. What a shitty movie.

312 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:36:07am

More coincedence: this story kept covered up until after the election: proof that Mitt was right in wanting to run PBS out of town on a rail:

Elmo voice actor accused of having sex with teenage boy

/

313 OhNoZombies!  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:46:40am

re: #249 Lidane

I had the opposite happen. I got called a lesbian because I preferred hanging out with boys over girls. Never mind the fact that I was just as boy crazy as any other straight teenage girl. I was hanging out with the boys and I had an opinion, so of course I must have been a lesbian. WTF.

That whole mentality is stupid.

I never did figure out how to relate to other girls when all they wanted to talk about was Friends or Melrose Place.
Only the boys would dissect Terminator 2 with me.

314 darthstar  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:49:08am

re: #311 Killgore Trout

I was really bored last night and watched Gangs of New York. What a shitty movie.

Wow...you must have been really bored.

315 OhNoZombies!  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:51:13am

re: #255 Lidane

WOW. What the hell?

[Embedded content]

Crazy as hell.

316 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:51:15am

re: #314 darthstar

Wow...you must have been really bored.

It's a rarity for me. I'm usually immune to boredom.

317 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:51:58am

re: #313 OhNoZombies!

I never did figure out how to relate to other girls when all they wanted to talk about was Friends or Melrose Place.
Only the boys would dissect Terminator 2 with me.

I was a music nerd and I liked hanging out with musicians. Plus at that age I was both a typical teenage girl freaking out over the cute boys du jour and I was also a metalhead. It was hard to talk about the latest Metallica album with the same girls who were crushing on Tom Cruise, you know?

Plus, like you said -- only the boys would talk action movies. The girls were more into the romcoms. I liked John Hughes as much as the next 80's teenager, but Terminator was fun too.

318 Lidane  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:54:21am

re: #311 Killgore Trout

I was really bored last night and watched Gangs of New York. What a shitty movie.

Even Scorsese is allowed the occasional shitty film.

OTOH, The Departed was awesome.

319 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:56:36am

For all practical purposes I was never a teenager--spent age 13-18 in a 24/7 monastery school. Then at 19 I found myself living alone in Manhattan, in the early '60s. It got...interesting.

320 darthstar  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:56:49am

re: #287 Lidane

Cue the wingnut head explosions. The New York Times praised Fox News. Sort of:

For One Night at Fox, News Tops Agenda

I like the way that article ends. "We decided, they reported." Ha!

321 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 10:59:29am

re: #311 Killgore Trout

I was really bored last night and watched Gangs of New York. What a shitty movie.

No movie that has Daniel Day Lewis can ever be shitty.

322 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 11:29:46am

re: #283 Shiplord Kirel

A college friend of mine spent a ton of money on an Alfa Romeo in the belief that it would improve his chances with girls. He said later that the girls did in fact like his car. "They didn't pay any attention to me, but they liked the car," he mourned. Poor guy, all that dough down the drain when all he really needed was some kittens, a good cookbook, and a borrowed baby.

Which also describes the plot of multiple Adam Sandler movies.
/

323 Donna Ballard  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 11:35:28am

re: #282 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire)

Donna, are you paying attention?

Yeah I saw what he said, but after a while I learned to just smack him, gently mind you, on the back of the head and look sideways at him then turn my head away and ignore him. It made my Mother-in-law so proud.....


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FemNaziBitch
History of Laws Concerning Immigration and Naturalization in the United States -WIKI
The United States Constitution was adopted on September 17, 1787. Article I, section 8, clause 4 of the Constitution expressly gives the United States Congress the power to establish a uniform rule of naturalization.[1] Pursuant to this power, Congress ...

2 days ago
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MichaelJ
COMFORTABLY NUMB - Peahi Nov 12 on Vimeo
Channel angle of the Nov 12th swell at Peahi.

5 days, 13 hours ago
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Romantic Heretic
Money Makes Us Less Rational
Here's an interesting article on scientific studies that demonstrate how rationality and empathy break down is the presence of large amounts of money.

1 week, 1 day ago
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Indy GOP Refugee
Dissent Goes Missing in Pro-Labor L.A. City Council - LA Times
That is not good govenance. The San Fernando Valley lawmaker stood up at a recent meeting and rattled off numbers from a new report on the city's economic health. Sales tax revenue? Up 26% since 2009. Business tax revenue? Up ...

1 week, 4 days ago
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wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality
Uncomfortable Xi-Abe Handshake Spawns New Winnie the Pooh Comparison
Asian powerhouses China and Japan have not been on the best of terms lately, following disagreements over who has claim to some islands -- and possible undersea gas and oil fields -- in the South China Sea. So perhaps we ...

1 week, 5 days ago
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EiMitch
CollegeHumor: If Call of Duty Were Treated Like A Real Thing
Mildly NSFW (bleeped-out language) CollegeHumor seems to be doing a bit of cross-promotion with CoD: Advanced Warfare. Consider that disclosure. That aside, it was funny because... Actually I can't explain without spoiling it. As for the game being advertised, I ...

1 week, 5 days ago
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Three Chord Monty
Michael Moore defends Bill Maher
"You may not agree with Bill on everything. Yet I'm guessing you love it when he goes after the Uterun Police/Protectors of Child Rapists (also known as The Vatican), or when he brilliantly satirizes the crazy Christian Right which ...

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 Frank says:

Anything played wrong twice in a row is the beginning of an arrangement.