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Romney to Donors: Obama Won Because of “Gifts” to Minorities

The revenge of the 47%
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This should really come as no surprise; it’s totally consistent with the messages of the Romney campaign, which made it a prime tenet that there was a segment of America that just wanted “free stuff.” Romney even had the gall to say this to the NAACP when he addressed them (and was booed for it), so it’s no big secret that he feels this way.

But still — douchebag to the bitter end: Romney Reflects on His Loss in Call With Campaign Donors.

Mitt Romney told his top donors Wednesday that his loss to President Obama was a disappointing result that neither he nor his top aides had expected, but said he believed his team ran a “superb” campaign with “no drama,” and attributed his rival’s victory to “the gifts” the administration had given to blacks, Hispanics and young voters during Obama’s  first term.

Obama, Romney argued, had been “very generous” to blacks, Hispanics and young voters. He cited as motivating factors to young voters the administration’s plan for partial forgiveness of college loan interest and the extension of health coverage for students on their parents’ insurance plans well into their 20s. Free contraception coverage under Obama’s healthcare plan, he added, gave an extra incentive to college-age women to back the president.

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187 comments

1 Kragar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:08:41pm

As opposed to Romney's plan to give huge gifts to just his donors.

2 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:09:02pm
3 erik_t  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:09:44pm
4 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:10:08pm

I'm a white woman going on forty. Why did I vote for the president again?

5 RadicalModerate  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:10:41pm

Dog whistles?
Identity-based Politics?
In OUR Republican Party?

No freaking way!!

6 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:11:22pm

re: #4 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm a white woman going on forty. Why did I vote for the president again?

White guilt of course.

7 RadicalModerate  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:11:34pm

re: #3 erik_t

j90d54h8a35.jpg

Need to find a gold-plated version of that.

8 Kragar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:12:21pm

re: #4 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm a white woman going on forty. Why did I vote for the president again?

Because you're suffering from white guilt, have the wrong chromosomes and are likely possessed by a demon.
///

9 Inconsequential Consequence  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:12:24pm

Sorry the dozen or so Romney fuck-ups and the stupid actions of his Republican buds had nothing to do with it?

What a wonderful world they live in, these hard advocates of personal responsibility, where nothing they do is a mistake.

10 RadicalModerate  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:13:21pm

re: #4 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm a white woman going on forty. Why did I vote for the president again?

Hell with that.

I'm a white dude, pushing 50, who was raised in the "heart of Dixie". I'm supposed to be the Republican Party's core demographic.

11 Kremer  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:13:45pm

re: #4 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm a white woman going on forty. Why did I vote for the president again?

Because you're a sane, thoughtful person who believes in facts over ideology?

12 Inconsequential Consequence  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:13:53pm

re: #8 Kragar

Because you're suffering from white guilt, have the wrong chromosomes and are likely possessed by a demon.
///

If I was SFZ, I'd go with the last one, it absolves her of all responsibility.

13 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:14:18pm

The GOP will not change because racism isn't just a tactic for them. The party is racist and run by racist from top to bottom. This is who they are. It's not just words to stir up the base This is what they feel and what they believe. Period, full stop.

14 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:14:49pm

Being of benefit to the electorate including parts of that aren't rich white males - what slimy tactic will Obama dream up next to win elections?

15 Mattand  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:14:59pm

Man, these fuckwits can't even ride off into the sunset without firing up the dog whistles.

16 jamesfirecat  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:15:13pm

Romeny, you lost, you are never going to be elected to any national post ever again, do the nation a favor and STFD and STFU.

17 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:15:26pm

re: #8 Kragar

Because you're suffering from white guilt, have the wrong chromosomes and are likely possessed by a demon.
///

And a Jew on top of that.

18 Linden Arden  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:16:05pm
douchebag to the bitter end

Describes Romney perfectly.

19 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:16:38pm

re: #16 jamesfirecat

Romeny, you lost, you are never going to be elected to any national post ever again, do the nation a favor and STFD and STFU.

Thank God he isn't a senator or we'd have to deal with his bullshit like old and bitter Walnuts McCain.

20 makeitstop  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:16:42pm

The sheer level of tone-deafness and lack of self-awareness is staggering.

And he was supposed to have been the smart one.

21 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:16:57pm

re: #17 moderatelyradicalliberal

And a Jew on top of that.

Make that a dybbuk, then.

22 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:17:14pm

re: #20 makeitstop

The sheer level of tone-deafness and lack of self-awareness is staggering.

And he was supposed to have been the smart one.

Oh, please. Name one smart Republican.

23 erik_t  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:18:07pm

re: #22 moderatelyradicalliberal

Oh, please. Name one smart Republican.

Dwight Eisenhower.

24 aagcobb  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:18:19pm

re: #16 jamesfirecat

Romeny, you lost, you are never going to be elected to any national post ever again, do the nation a favor and STFD and STFU.

I do so hope that Romney moves to Galt Island that libertarian billionaire nitwit wants to build and we never have to hear from or look at him again.

25 makeitstop  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:18:22pm

re: #22 moderatelyradicalliberal

Oh, please. Name one smart Republican.

I meant comparatively speaking. I'll grant you, the bar is set extremely low.

26 aagcobb  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:18:53pm

re: #23 erik_t

Dwight Eisenhower.

That's still alive.

27 philosophus invidius  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:18:53pm
28 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:19:15pm

re: #23 erik_t

Dwight Eisenhower.

He's dead. Try a live one.

29 Linden Arden  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:19:16pm

re: #22 moderatelyradicalliberal

Oh, please. Name one smart Republican.

I'll take that challenge.

David Frum. I think he is genuinely embarrassed to be a GOPer.

30 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:19:26pm

re: #4 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm a white woman going on forty. Why did I vote for the president again?

Let me check the list--

It was supposed to be a hot cocoa sampler box. A really nice one, in presentation walnut so you can re-use it.

Did you not get it?

31 erik_t  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:20:04pm

re: #26 aagcobb

That's still alive.

GODDAMNIT STOP MOVING THE GOALPOSTS THIS IS ALREADY HARD ENOUGH

32 Inconsequential Consequence  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:20:11pm

re: #23 erik_t

Dwight Eisenhower.

Are you saying the only smart Republican is a dead Republican?

33 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:20:55pm

re: #29 Linden Arden

I'll take that challenge.

David Frum. I think he is genuinely embarrassed to be a GOPer.

He said he was voting Romney, only a week or so ago.

34 jaunte  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:21:02pm

Grecian Formula loser says what?

35 jamesfirecat  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:21:03pm

re: #29 Linden Arden

I'll take that challenge.

David Frum. I think he is genuinely embarrassed to be a GOPer.

David Frum also said he'd vote for Romney, because the only way to get rid of the republican controlled house was to vote in a Republican controlled executive branch to go with it.


He may be intelligent but he does really sad things with that intelligence....

36 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:21:04pm

re: #29 Linden Arden

I'll take that challenge.

David Frum. I think he is genuinely embarrassed to be a GOPer.

He said Willard would have been a great president and pushed the Iraq war so he's not that smart. He just has his moments.

37 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:21:37pm

re: #34 jaunte

Grecian Formula loser says what?

LOL!

38 aagcobb  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:22:00pm

re: #13 moderatelyradicalliberal

The GOP will not change because racism isn't just a tactic for them. The party is racist and run by racist from top to bottom. This is who they are. It's not just words to stir up the base This is what they feel and what they believe. Period, full stop.

Bill Clinton changed the Democratic Party, but his candidacy was built on the foundation established by the DLC. There is no equivalent to the DLC in the GOP, because all the centrists in the party have been slain in the great RINO hunt.

39 Kremer  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:22:00pm

re: #29 Linden Arden

I'll take that challenge.

David Frum. I think he is genuinely embarrassed to be a GOPer.

Seems to be almost desperately clinging by his fingernails.

40 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:22:34pm

re: #30 Obdicut

Let me check the list--

It was supposed to be a hot cocoa sampler box. A really nice one, in presentation walnut so you can re-use it.

Did you not get it?

Can I get one too????

41 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:23:48pm

Tagg can carry on the proud tradition of Romneys Who Almost Became President.

42 RadicalModerate  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:23:52pm

re: #13 moderatelyradicalliberal

The GOP will not change because racism isn't just a tactic for them. The party is racist and run by racist from top to bottom. This is who they are. It's not just words to stir up the base This is what they feel and what they believe. Period, full stop.

Fifteen years ago, maybe ten, I would have disagreed with this sentiment. At that time, they were present, but hadn't gotten a stranglehold on the party structure at its core constituency as of yet. The warning signs were there, even as far back as the 1980s, but the party leadership chose to have a much higher tolerance level toward them than they ever deserved.

Nowadays (I hate using this term, but it's so damned accurate), the cancer invading the RNC has metastasized, and has in process of consuming the entire body.

43 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:24:15pm
44 DisturbedEma  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:24:33pm

Lord have mercy, between the sex thing and this? It is Potomac Shores. . .

45 jvic  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:24:45pm

re: #22 moderatelyradicalliberal

Oh, please. Name one smart Republican.

Before running for the Senate, Ted Cruz headed a major law firm's Supreme Court practice. He upset the Republican Establishment's candidate, wealthy TX lieutenant governor David Dewhurst, in the primary.

46 Charles Johnson  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:24:58pm

What I find when I search for my name on Twitter:

47 erik_t  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:25:06pm

re: #42 RadicalModerate

The warning signs were there, even as far back as the 1980s, but the party leadership chose to have a much higher tolerance level toward them than they ever deserved.

As far back as Nixon, explicitly.

Racism isn't a bug, it's a feature.

48 DisturbedEma  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:25:10pm

re: #43 wrenchwench

niiiiiiiice take on was it Lincoln?

49 Charles Johnson  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:25:14pm

HALLELUJAH!

50 DisturbedEma  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:25:36pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

Beat me to it!!!!!

51 Linden Arden  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:25:38pm

re: #36 moderatelyradicalliberal

He said Willard would have been a great president and pushed the Iraq war so he's not that smart. He just has his moments.

OK, but I really admire Christopher Hitchens' intellect and he supported the Iraq War.

Let us praise rare self awareness in the GOP (Frum). There is far too little of it.

52 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:25:51pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

HALLELUJAH!

Someone grab the extinguisher!!!!

53 Mattand  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:26:01pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

HALLELUJAH!

TESTIFY!!!!

54 Inconsequential Consequence  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:26:21pm

re: #40 Varek Raith

Can I get one too????

I'm waiting for the Weed sampler.

55 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:26:53pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

Tagg can carry on the proud tradition of Romneys Who Almost Became President.

Maybe Craig, he's the one who speaks Spanish.

56 jaunte  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:26:57pm

“The president’s campaign focused on talking about a specific set of policies, unlike our own magical conservative mystery gift box. I don't know why voters weren't more intrigued by it.”

57 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:28:26pm

re: #48 DisturbedEma

niiiiiiiice take on was it Lincoln?

First link at Google:

"Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."
-Attributed to Ben Franklin, Abraham Lincoln and Mark Twain, and no one is really sure who actually said it, but nonetheless is a cherished principle among many great leaders

58 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:28:27pm

I hope Santa leaves Romney a sack of clean coal.

59 RadicalModerate  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:29:06pm

re: #47 erik_t

As far back as Nixon, explicitly.

Racism isn't a bug, it's a feature.

Granted, but the post-Watergate pushback stemmed the growth for over half a decade. Even with the likes of Buchanan and the "Southern Strategy" folks, it wasn't until the so-called "Reagan Revolution" that caused a fundamental shift to the right on social issues.

60 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:29:20pm

re: #54 b_Snark

I'm waiting for the Weed sampler.

Ron Paul didn't even make it out of the primaries, duuuude.

61 BongCrodny  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:29:26pm

I have to agree with Romney on this one.

Of course, I'm counting "not being a dick" as a gift.

62 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:30:08pm

Yes, because saying those who didn't vote for you only voted for the other guy because the are bunch of cheap whores who will vote for anyone who waves a $20 in front of them is certainly the way to bring them over to your side.

This is why they won't vote for you, Mitt. You hold them in contempt, and make no attempt to hide it.

63 RadicalModerate  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:30:25pm

re: #58 Varek Raith

I hope Santa leaves Romney a sack of clean coal.

Unlike Santa Claus, clean coal is a myth.

64 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:31:38pm

re: #63 RadicalModerate

Unlike Santa Claus, clean coal is a myth.

YOU RUINED THE JOKE!!!
:P

65 BongCrodny  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:31:53pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

Tagg can carry on the proud tradition of Romneys Who Almost Became President.

A couple more generations and we'll have enough for a Jeopardy category!

66 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:33:23pm

re: #45 jvic

Before running for the Senate, Ted Cruz headed a major law firm's Supreme Court practice. He upset the Republican Establishment's candidate, wealthy TX lieutenant governor David Dewhurst, in the primary.

This nutcase is my new senator. He's a climate change denier and wants to get rid of the EPA. He's dumb too.

67 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:33:45pm

re: #62 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society

Yes, because saying those who didn't vote for you only voted for the other guy because the are bunch of cheap whores who will vote for anyone who waves a $20 in front of them is certainly the way to bring them over to your side.

This is why they won't vote for you, Mitt. You hold them in contempt, and make no attempt to hide it.

The part that really makes me mad is this:

Free contraception coverage under Obama’s healthcare plan, he added, gave an extra incentive to college-age women to back the president.

College-age women are not the only women who are fertile. And even infertile women have sympathy for those who are. Hell, even most men care about contraception. Romney is the least empathetic candidate for president I can remember.

68 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:34:37pm

re: #42 RadicalModerate

Fifteen years ago, maybe ten, I would have disagreed with this sentiment. At that time, they were present, but hadn't gotten a stranglehold on the party structure at its core constituency as of yet. The warning signs were there, even as far back as the 1980s, but the party leadership chose to have a much higher tolerance level toward them than they ever deserved.

Nowadays (I hate using this term, but it's so damned accurate), the cancer invading the RNC has metastasized, and has in process of consuming the entire body.

The racism and bigotry is a feature, not a bug.

69 erik_t  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:35:02pm

re: #67 wrenchwench

College-age women are not the only women who are fertile. And even infertile women have sympathy for those who are. Hell, even most men care about contraception. Romney is the least empathetic candidate for president I can remember.

Isn't... isn't voting in the interests of yourself and those around you the whole idea? What would I vote on if not the interests of my society?

70 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:35:07pm

re: #66 moderatelyradicalliberal

This nutcase is my new senator. He's a climate change denier and wants to get rid of the EPA. He's dumb too.

Trade ya' Senator Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III.

(I love typing that.)

71 Batman  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:35:27pm

Looks like Romney never left his bubble after all. The reality of him losing the election just sort of, I don't know, seeped in via an osmosis-like process, I guess.

72 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:35:43pm

gifts

oh ferchrissakes four years and more of pitiful mewling and puking about how only republicans work and produce anything

let em go secede already and try their ayn rand crap out somewhere where they ain't a botherin' normal workin' folk

73 Charles Johnson  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:36:10pm

By the way - we got HuffPo-lanched today:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Servers seem to be nicely tuned up now - the HuffPo link sent a lot of traffic, and I never even noticed a slowdown.

74 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:36:35pm

re: #69 erik_t

Isn't... isn't voting in the interests of yourself and those around you the whole idea? What would I vote on if not the interests of my society?

The interests of the 1%, if you're one of the .01% like Romney.

75 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:37:07pm

re: #70 Decatur Deb

Trade ya' Senator Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III.

(I love typing that.)

Oh, fuck no. The way he race-bated Sonia Sotomayor was terrible. You can keep that big eared troll.

76 OhNoZombies!  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:37:10pm

re: #70 Decatur Deb

Trade ya' Senator Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III.

(I love typing that.)

Well if that ain't a southern name, I don't know what is.
Was he born sippin' a mint julep ?

77 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:37:15pm

re: #67 wrenchwench

The part that really makes me mad is this:

Free contraception coverage under Obama’s healthcare plan, he added, gave an extra incentive to college-age women to back the president.

Yeah. "We don't have a problem with women, we just think they're a bunch of silly selfish slatterns willing to sell the country down the river in exchange for free slut-pills." And then they wonder why women don't vote for them.

78 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:38:33pm

re: #76 OhNoZombies!

Well if that ain't a southern name, I don't know what is.
Was he born sippin' a mint julep ?

Walk-on part in a Foghorn Leghorn cartoon.

79 Kremer  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:39:20pm

re: #71 Batman

Looks like Romney never left his bubble after all. The reality of him losing the election just sort of, I don't know, seeped in via an osmosis-like process, I guess.

"You mean we lost? That doesn't mean I have to pay for anything extra, does it?"

80 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:40:30pm

re: #78 Decatur Deb

Walk-on part in a Foghorn Leghorn cartoon.

Image: polls_celebrity_pictures_foghorn_leghorn_bitch_slap_4909_556088_poll_xlarge.jpeg

81 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:41:54pm

Also, too I am young, black and female. Do I get three gifts?

Where are my gifts, Bam-Bam? I'm waiting.

82 RadicalModerate  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:43:42pm

re: #66 moderatelyradicalliberal

This nutcase is my new senator. He's a climate change denier and wants to get rid of the EPA. He's dumb too.

You forgot the other one. He's a bonafide "birther".

You want to know how far disconnected he, and the rest of the Tea Partiers are? There's more than a few of them in Texas who want Cruz to run for the White House in 2016.

Small problem.

Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta (you know... Canada), to a Cuban father and American mother.
Even says so on his birth certificate.

They don't seem to have a problem with it.

83 Kremer  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:44:37pm

re: #81 moderatelyradicalliberal

Also, too I am young, black and female. Do I get three gifts?

Where are my gifts, Bam-Bam? I'm waiting.

Three if you included being a lesbian Wiccan.

84 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:45:06pm

re: #81 moderatelyradicalliberal

Also, too I am young, black and female. Do I get three gifts?

Where are my gifts, Bam-Bam? I'm waiting.

Hey, you got the chance to be on the phone with him! I don't want to hear any whining!

85 erik_t  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:46:44pm

re: #82 RadicalModerate

Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta (you know... Canada), to a Cuban father and American mother.
Even says so on his birth certificate.

They don't seem to have a problem with it.

White Cuban or Brown Cuban? Probably relevant.

(fucking assholes)

86 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:46:55pm

re: #84 wrenchwench

Hey, you got the chance to be on the phone with him! I don't want to hear any whining!

Oh, yeah. That was awesome.

But that's just one gift. I am owed two more.

87 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:47:24pm

If you define "never having to convince someone your rape was 'legitimate'" and "never having to hear 'papers please' because you're driving through Arizona and have a skosh too much melanin" as "gifts", then I suppose this argument might have some small degree of merit.

88 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:48:40pm

re: #84 wrenchwench

Hey, you got the chance to be on the phone with him! I don't want to hear any whining!

The Prez gave a TY on the OfA webcast last night. He owned up to the first debate loss. That's sort of the difference, right there.

89 Kremer  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:50:11pm

Darn!

90 Achilles Tang  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:50:24pm

re: #15 Mattand

Man, these fuckwits can't even ride off into the sunset without firing up the dog whistles.

I wish they would ride off into the sunset, but this movie is a rewrite of Blazing Saddles.

91 EPR-radar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:51:20pm

From the article:

...
The 2012 Republican nominee avoided any recriminations about his team or a second-guessing of their efforts, calling the organization “a very solid team that got along” – an attribute he said he hoped would be reflected in the 2012 campaign books that are being written.
...

What a gutless wonder --- pre-emptive whining about the inevitable tell-all books.

Here's a clue by four for you, Mitt: "superb" campaigns do not include:

1) Dancing on the graves of dead US diplomats before the bodies are cold.

2) Being "multiple choice Mitt" on all issues, such that even your supporters had no idea what you'd actually try to do in office, other than cut your own taxes.

3) Entering the Mittness protection program (i.e., hiding from the press) once it was apparent that your every attempt to explain yourself outside a cocoon of the Party Faithful was driving down your polling numbers.

92 OhNoZombies!  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:53:40pm

re: #86 moderatelyradicalliberal

Oh, yeah. That was awesome.

But that's just one gift. I am owed two more.

LOL !
Are you feeling entitled to stuff?
Oh wait, now that I think of it, I am too.
At least that's what they told me ...

93 RadicalModerate  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:53:42pm

re: #85 erik_t

White Cuban or Brown Cuban? Probably relevant.

(fucking assholes)

Oh, it gets better. His father's past, as told by Cruz versus what is known by public records, don't exactly match up.

This story is from over a year ago, published by that bastion of leftist journalism, the Dallas Morning News:

Ted Cruz says he hasn’t misled about his father’s exodus from Cuba

94 OhNoZombies!  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:54:25pm

re: #89 Kremer

Darn!

[Embedded content]

Cock punch !

95 aagcobb  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:55:19pm

Does anyone else appreciate the irony that Romney got about 47% of the vote?

96 dragonath  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:55:57pm

Verily, Romney has the Gift of Gaffe.

97 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:56:29pm

re: #95 aagcobb

Does anyone else appreciate the irony that Romney got about 47% of the vote?

Oh, think we all do.

Also, too is Ted Nugent dead or in jail yet?

98 RadicalModerate  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:59:38pm

re: #94 OhNoZombies!

Cock punch !

I can say with all honesty that I would have probably preferred the whole "Street Fighter II" given the opportunity.

SHORYUKEN!!

99 OhNoZombies!  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:00:52pm

I said this the other day:

1964 and 1965 led directly to the Southern Strategy.
Ronald Reagan praised states rights and opened the door to evangelicals.
Jesse Helms warned his constituents of the "Black Hands" coming to take "stuff" away from hard working Americans. Etc., etc., etc.

This stuff has been a long time in the making, and many of us were keenly aware of the GOP pattern of behavior long before Fox and Rush.

The difference now, is the animus which has been festering just below the surface, has been given a voice by RW media and the internet, so everyone can see it.

And I want to add, that I firmly believe that all of the vitriol against public education can be linked directly back to desegregation.

Racism is in their bones.

100 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:01:40pm

re: #91 EPR-radar

From the article:

What a gutless wonder --- pre-emptive whining about the inevitable tell-all books.

Here's a clue by four for you, Mitt: "superb" campaigns do not include:

1) Dancing on the graves of dead US diplomats before the bodies are cold.

2) Being "multiple choice Mitt" on all issues, such that even your supporters had no idea what you'd actually try to do in office, other than cut your own taxes.

3) Entering the Mittness protection program (i.e., hiding from the press) once it was apparent that your every attempt to explain yourself outside a cocoon of the Party Faithful was driving down your polling numbers.

Upding for "Mittness protection". Yours?

101 sagehen  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:03:06pm

The gift I asked for was Bin Laden's head on a pike.... but sleeps with the fishes was an acceptable substitute. Thank you Santa Barack.

102 Kragar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:03:22pm

re: #98 RadicalModerate

I can say with all honesty that I would have probably preferred the whole "Street Fighter II" given the opportunity.

SHORYUKEN!!

Image: deadpool-shoryuken.jpg

103 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:03:48pm

I might lie low and not talk much for a little while. The difference in opinion between most of you and me in regards to Israel-Palestine could provoke hostility.

104 EPR-radar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:03:50pm

re: #100 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Upding for "Mittness protection". Yours?

Nope. Seen on the net (probably on Daily Kos). Spreading it seems appropriate.

105 Kragar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:04:31pm

re: #101 sagehen

The gift I asked for was Bin Laden's head on a pike.... but sleeps with the fishes was an acceptable substitute. Thank you Santa Barack.

I asked the Republican party to be made to look like a bunch of complete fucking idiots.

THANK YOU SANTA BARACK!

106 sagehen  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:06:59pm

re: #26 aagcobb

That's still alive.

Bush the Elder. Colin Powell.

(if you'd asked me a couple of years ago I'd have a much longer list, but most of the names I'd have named are calling themselves independents now).

107 philosophus invidius  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:07:06pm

re: #95 aagcobb

Does anyone else appreciate the irony that Romney got about 47% of the vote?

= (in Romney's mind) I won a full 89% of the non-moocher vote and hence I should be President.

108 RadicalModerate  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:07:56pm

re: #99 OhNoZombies!

I said this the other day:

1964 and 1965 led directly to the Southern Strategy.
Ronald Reagan praised states rights and opened the door to evangelicals.
Jesse Helms warned his constituents of the "Black Hands" coming to take "stuff" away from hard working Americans. Etc., etc., etc.

This stuff has been a long time in the making, and many of us were keenly aware of the GOP pattern of behavior long before Fox and Rush.

The difference now, is the animus which has been festering just below the surface, has been given a voice by RW media and the internet, so everyone can see it.

And I want to add, that I firmly believe that all of the vitriol against public education can be linked directly back to desegregation.

Racism is in their bones.

True, to some extent, but I will submit that until relatively recently, the racism was pushed beneath the surface to a great extent - they didn't embrace it to anywhere near the level that they do today.

As an example, the Republican Party at least had the intelligence in 1991 to publicly oppose David Duke's run for Louisiana Governor on their party's ticket during the runoff election that he qualified for.

I honestly can't say that today's Republican Party would distance themselves from an unapologetic racist, like they did back then.

109 sagehen  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:10:16pm

re: #62 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society

Yes, because saying those who didn't vote for you only voted for the other guy because the are bunch of cheap whores who will vote for anyone who waves a $20 in front of them is certainly the way to bring them over to your side.

This is why they won't vote for you, Mitt. You hold them in contempt, and make no attempt to hide it.

(unlike all those Bush voters who were swayed by their $300 refund checks...)

110 Kragar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:10:42pm

OT

Peter Falk was fucking awesome.

111 EPR-radar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:10:44pm

re: #99 OhNoZombies!

I said this the other day:

1964 and 1965 led directly to the Southern Strategy.
Ronald Reagan praised states rights and opened the door to evangelicals.
Jesse Helms warned his constituents of the "Black Hands" coming to take "stuff" away from hard working Americans. Etc., etc., etc.

This stuff has been a long time in the making, and many of us were keenly aware of the GOP pattern of behavior long before Fox and Rush.

The difference now, is the animus which has been festering just below the surface, has been given a voice by RW media and the internet, so everyone can see it.

And I want to add, that I firmly believe that all of the vitriol against public education can be linked directly back to desegregation.

Racism is in their bones.

Difficult to disagree. I think it started with the GOP establishment $$$ not really being all that racist, but willing to use racism to get people to vote against their interests (Southern Strategy).

But it is now a big business to feed the GOP crazy, and so their establishment now appears to be thoroughly infected by the madness of the rubes, including racism, misogyny, hating on the gays, and denial of reality. Their failure to see the election results coming seems much like some kind of public psychotic break from reality.

112 Kremer  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:11:13pm
113 philosophus invidius  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:11:21pm

re: #109 sagehen

It basically said on the check: this check is a gift from GW Bush.

114 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:11:45pm

re: #108 RadicalModerate

True, to some extent, but I will submit that until relatively recently, the racism was pushed beneath the surface to a great extent - they didn't embrace it to anywhere near the level that they do today.

As an example, the Republican Party at least had the intelligence in 1991 to publicly oppose David Duke's run for Louisiana Governor on their party's ticket during the runoff election that he qualified for.

I honestly can't say that today's Republican Party would distance themselves from an unapologetic racist, like they did back then.

You're trying to paint a moving boxcar. The GOP and Dems have been realigning for a hundred years. In the decades you cite, the shift was not as complete as now. If you look at the RW, disregarding their local and temporal letterhead, racism is a core part of their package.

115 dragonath  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:11:47pm

The extended Romney quote from the original New York Times article:

“You can imagine for somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told you’re now going to get free health care, particularly if you don’t have it, getting free health care worth, what, $10,000 per family, in perpetuity, I mean, this is huge,”

OMG FREE health coverage for poor people!

Even if they're making $35,000! Still shiftless bastards!

“Likewise with Hispanic voters, free health care was a big plus. But in addition with regards to Hispanic voters, the amnesty for children of illegals, the so-called Dream Act kids, was a huge plus for that voting group.”

A huge plus, eh? He says that like it's a bad thing.

That's all you really need to know about him really.

116 Skip Intro  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:12:03pm
I honestly can't say that today's Republican Party would distance themselves from an unapologetic racist, like they did back then.

Not if they thought he might win. Winning is the only standard for the GOP. Nothing else even comes close.

117 OhNoZombies!  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:12:41pm

re: #108 RadicalModerate

True, to some extent, but I will submit that until relatively recently, the racism was pushed beneath the surface to a great extent - they didn't embrace it to anywhere near the level that they do today.

As an example, the Republican Party at least had the intelligence in 1991 to publicly oppose David Duke's run for Louisiana Governor on their party's ticket during the runoff election that he qualified for.

I honestly can't say that today's Republican Party would distance themselves from an unapologetic racist, like they did back then.

Well, as I said, it was festering just below the surface.
The black guy in the boss's seat was a bridge too far, and it opened up the wound.

118 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:15:01pm

re: #116 Skip Intro

Not if they thought he might win. Winning is the only standard for the GOP. Nothing else even comes close.

If that were true, they would be moderating now. Doesn't seem to be what they're doing.

119 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:15:37pm

re: #1 Kragar

As opposed to Romney's plan to give huge gifts to just his donors.

As I replied to you in the last thread:

Wouldn't you be pissed if you sucked Koch and didn't get so much as a reacharound?

///

120 Kragar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:16:55pm

How many signatures were from people telling Texas to go ahead and get the fuck out?

121 jaunte  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:17:05pm

re: #115 dragonath

Maybe with Obamacare in place, Romney will finally schedule some dickitude reduction surgery.

122 RadicalModerate  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:18:41pm

re: #116 Skip Intro

Not if they thought he might win. Winning is the only standard for the GOP. Nothing else even comes close.

In the case that I cited, David Duke had a very strong second-place finish in the open primary, with the incumbent Republican governor (Buddy Roemer) coming in a fairly distant third place. Duke carried a significant majority of parishes in the state in both the primary as well as the runoff election. If the Republican establishment had swung support to Duke, instead of actively campaigning against him, he WOULD have won.

123 jaunte  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:19:33pm

re: #120 Kragar

The voting age population of Texas is 18,279,737. Fischer is such an optimist.

124 dragonath  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:21:12pm

re: #122 RadicalModerate

David Duke actually won a majority of the white Republican vote. 60%, I think.

As much as DF likes bringing up the "Vote for the crook -- it's important" anecdote, I always though that slogan sounded kind of half hearted.

125 EPR-radar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:21:15pm

re: #115 dragonath

Keep running your mouth Romney. You are probably the one person who has done the most in the past 5 years to advance the cause of those opposed to outrageous income inequality.

Romney makes the Robber Barons of old look like the Care Bears.

126 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:21:46pm

re: #105 Kragar

I asked the Republican party to be made to look like a bunch of complete fucking idiots.

THANK YOU SANTA BARACK!

I'm not sure if that's a gift from Obama or from the Republicans themselves.

Hawkeye: [on why he made up a fake airline company] To help you look foolish!
Major Frank Burns: I don't need your help!

127 Kremer  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:24:15pm

re: #125 EPR-radar

Keep running your mouth Romney. You are probably the one person who has done the most in the past 5 years to advance the cause of those opposed to outrageous income inequality.

Romney makes the Robber Barons of old look like the Care Bears.

Sort of makes me wonder what a Trump campaign would have looked like?

128 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:24:35pm

Nothing shows just how patriotic you are than wanting to leave the country in a hissy fit over the election.

129 OhNoZombies!  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:25:42pm

re: #122 RadicalModerate

In the case that I cited, David Duke had a very strong second-place finish in the open primary, with the incumbent Republican governor (Buddy Roemer) coming in a fairly distant third place. Duke carried a significant majority of parishes in the state in both the primary as well as the runoff election. If the Republican establishment had swung support to Duke, instead of actively campaigning against him, he WOULD have won.

I was at a family reunion in LA. in 1990. Our hotel right was across the street from, if I recall correctly, his headquarters.
When my family and I met over at Shoney's, we got called all kinds of lovely names...

Yes, he would have won.

130 erik_t  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:25:56pm

re: #127 Kremer

Sort of makes me wonder what a Trump campaign would have looked like?

I'm sure they would have combed the crazed right-wing blogs for something, flopped about with it for a while, but it all would have blown over and exposed the bald-faced lies beneath.

(waits)

131 Kremer  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:26:11pm

re: #128 Varek Raith

Nothing shows just how patriotic you are than wanting to leave the country in a hissy fit over the election.

Personally I can understand, but trying to speak for your whole state? Silly.

132 EPR-radar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:26:25pm

re: #114 Decatur Deb

You're trying to paint a moving boxcar. The GOP and Dems have been realigning for a hundred years. In the decades you cite, the shift was not as complete as now. If you look at the RW, disregarding their local and temporal letterhead, racism is a core part of their package.

This raises an interesting question. Is it possible for there to be a further realignment of the two parties, of the kind that has happened before?

My 2 cents is that the Democratic party can (and will) change, mainly by absorbing ex-republicans. However, it seems impossible for the present-day version of the Republican party to change.

133 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:26:34pm

re: #128 Varek Raith

Nothing shows just how patriotic you are than wanting to leave the country in a hissy fit over the election.

But, they're the "patriots" and "real Americans", right?

/that hurts my head to type

134 jvic  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:26:46pm

re: #66 moderatelyradicalliberal

This nutcase is my new senator. He's a climate change denier and wants to get rid of the EPA. He's dumb too.

Despite this, he is dumb? shakes head

135 Stanghazi  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:27:04pm

Comment on post: Romney, you are who we thought you were. A condescending prick.

Good evening LGF.

136 Kremer  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:27:46pm

re: #122 RadicalModerate

In the case that I cited, David Duke had a very strong second-place finish in the open primary, with the incumbent Republican governor (Buddy Roemer) coming in a fairly distant third place. Duke carried a significant majority of parishes in the state in both the primary as well as the runoff election. If the Republican establishment had swung support to Duke, instead of actively campaigning against him, he WOULD have won.

Would have been the same or worse than what Wallace accomplished, I believe.

137 EPR-radar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:29:38pm

re: #127 Kremer

Sort of makes me wonder what a Trump campaign would have looked like?

Well, it's hard to see how Trump could have been a significantly worse candidate than Romney.

Which of the Romney states would a hypothetical Trump candidate lost?

138 Kilroy01  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:31:10pm

re: #137 EPR-radar

Florida?

139 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:32:08pm

re: #134 jvic

Despite this, he is dumb? shakes head

I hope you're shaking your head at the moron, Ted Cruz, rather than at the thought that he might be dumb. At this point, a climate change denier is dumb, despite whatever his intellectual assets and resume say.

140 sagehen  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:32:54pm

re: #137 EPR-radar

Well, it's hard to see how Trump could have been a significantly worse candidate than Romney.

Which of the Romney states would a hypothetical Trump candidate lost?

North Carolina.

141 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:33:21pm

re: #127 Kremer

Sort of makes me wonder what a Trump campaign would have looked like?

shiny, brass plated, vulgar, and tasteless

142 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:33:40pm

re: #134 jvic

Despite this, he is dumb? shakes head

Yes, denying science is dumb.

143 EPR-radar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:34:16pm

re: #138 Kilroy01

Florida looks to be an Obama state (unless they are still counting).

144 aagcobb  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:34:35pm

re: #132 EPR-radar

This raises an interesting question. Is it possible for there to be a further realignment of the two parties, of the kind that has happened before?

My 2 cents is that the Democratic party can (and will) change, mainly by absorbing ex-republicans. However, it seems impossible for the present-day version of the Republican party to change.

Well over time, as its elderly base dies off, someone with charisma and vision will bring centrists back to the GOP and wrest control of it from the neoconfederates. This could take some time; From 1860 through 1928 the Democrats won only 4 of 18 presidential elections.

145 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:34:41pm

re: #142 Varek Raith

Yes, denying science is dumb.

And it's dumber, the smarter you are.

146 EPR-radar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:36:36pm

re: #140 sagehen

North Carolina.

NC and IN are are the likeliest suspects for this. Trump is a joke, but might have actually run a better campaign than Romney...

147 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:37:47pm
148 Kilroy01  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:38:13pm

re: #143 EPR-radar

Florida looks to be an Obama state (unless they are still counting).

Florida has a weird southern/New York mix. You just don't know if the Donald would be able to get a wider voting block. Florida voted in Scott after all.

149 aagcobb  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:38:41pm

re: #146 EPR-radar

NC and IN are are the likeliest suspects for this. Trump is a joke, but might have actually run a better campaign than Romney...

It does say something about how concentrated the GOP vote is that a candidate as brazenly awful as Trump would've won only one fewer states than Romney.

150 dragonath  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:40:11pm

re: #134 jvic

Despite this, he is dumb? shakes head

Can you name a policy that he's smart on? You know, like actual public policy.

Given that you were pulling for Romney, I wonder if his new quotes are the kind of "pleasant surprises" you had in mind.

151 EPR-radar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:41:21pm

re: #145 Obdicut

And it's dumber, the smarter you are.

Reminds me of the angry astonishment I felt when a Stanford Law student I knew defended creationism in casual coffeehouse conversation. He was definitely too smart to believe it, but his politics were wingnut, and it is politically useful for wingnuts to promote irrationality at every opportunity.

In many ways, this is more despicable than the delusions of the true believers. Calling this simply "dumb" is too kind.

152 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:41:42pm

TEH DERP IS STRONG IN THIS ONE

WTF? Well, totally did not work for Al Gore, did it now?

(I voted for him)

153 Kremer  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:43:17pm

re: #148 Kilroy01

Florida has a weird southern/New York mix. You just don't know if the Donald would be able to get a wider voting block. Florida voted in Scott after all.

I think Christi might have won if he'd gone D instead of independent. Voters weren't given a definite choice.

154 OhNoZombies!  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:43:47pm

re: #152 Vicious Babushka

TEH DERP IS STRONG IN THIS ONE

[Embedded content]

WTF? Well, totally did not work for Al Gore, did it now?

(I voted for him)

Victoria Jackson calling something stupid...
That's funny.
And sad.

155 EPR-radar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:44:35pm

re: #148 Kilroy01

Florida has a weird southern/New York mix. You just don't know if the Donald would be able to get a wider voting block. Florida voted in Scott after all.

I'm being a pedant --- my original question was Romney states that Trump might have lost.

Obama states that Trump might have won could include Florida.

156 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:45:12pm
157 Kremer  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:45:31pm

re: #152 Vicious Babushka

TEH DERP IS STRONG IN THIS ONE

[Embedded content]

WTF? Well, totally did not work for Al Gore, did it now?

(I voted for him)

Yes, and Al Gore is SO RICH now!

158 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:46:31pm
159 Kilroy01  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:47:11pm

re: #155 EPR-radar

I'm being a pedant --- my original question was Romney states that Trump might have lost.

Obama states that Trump might have won could include Florida.

Ah.... RIF
(Reading if fundamental)

160 Skip Intro  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:47:40pm

re: #105 Kragar

I asked the Republican party to be made to look like a bunch of complete fucking idiots.

THANK YOU SANTA BARACK!

Speaking of complete fucking idiots, let's see what the owner of Free Republic has to say.

Now that the GOP-e's anointed RINO has failed to attract sufficient numbers of conservative voters (the Republican base) to defeat the most blatantly corrupt liberal, er, communist useful idiot to ever occupy the White House, they've come up with an ingenious plan. We should "moderate" our stances against liberal causes like abortion, illegal aliens, the homosexual agenda, socialized healthcare, gun control, carbon tax, recreational drugs, resisting over taxing the "wealthy," etc. Our self-appointed Republican political "experts" now say we've lost the war against socialism and therefore must run up the white flag of surrender and become just like the godless socialist democrats to "attract more moderate votes." Conservatism, ie, defending God's commandments, defending the constitution, defending the rule of law, defending life, family, country, liberty, the borders, the founding principles, the pursuit of happiness, etc, is just too extreme in the new moderate world.

NUTs to all that libtard psychobabble!!

The GOP-e and their RINO enablers can KMA!!

If you think the evangelicals and the right-wing conservative base failed to turn out for the most liberal candidate to ever run on a Republican ticket (even though he pretended to be conservative), what in the hell do you think will happen if the GOP openly moves even further to the left?

Not only no, but HELL NO we will NOT moderate our stance against abortion, same sex marriage (or any part of the homosexual agenda), gun control, government mandated/socialized health care, big spending, big borrowing, big taxing, over taxing the "wealthy," globalism, "climate change," carbon tax, the borders, the illegal alien invasion, resistance to the ridiculous liberal wars against Christianity, morality, coal, oil, gas, mining, agriculture, industry, or against moral society, capitalism and liberty itself!!

We are here, we are in your face and we will not retreat. We reload!!

Damn the RINOs, full speed ahead for God, Family, Country, Life and Liberty!!

Woo hoo!! And our FReepathon is still going strong!!

Please click the link above to donate via secure server, or by mail to:

Well, the base has spoken and is crazier than ever. Oh, and could send me a couple of bucks? I'm a little short of the $360,000 I need to keep the site running.

161 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:47:59pm

re: #152 Vicious Babushka

TEH DERP IS STRONG IN THIS ONE

[Embedded content]

WTF? Well, totally did not work for Al Gore, did it now?

(I voted for him)

Dear Victoria,
Move to the Maldives.
See if you still think it's 'dumb'.
If so, feel free to live there until it's submerged.
/Idiot.

162 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:48:00pm

re: #157 Kremer

Yes, and Al Gore is SO RICH now!

And he's like President and everything!

Oh wait.

163 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:49:04pm

re: #158 darthstar

[Embedded content]

Yeah, pretty much...them and their douchebag running mates.

164 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:49:29pm
165 Kremer  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:49:30pm

re: #158 darthstar

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Wondering now how quickly "Maverick McCain" would have started kibitzing and criticizing a Romney admin?

166 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:50:48pm

re: #159 Kilroy01

Ah.... RIF
(Reading if fundamental)

It really if!

167 DisturbedEma  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:50:49pm

So it begins- a friend I have know since high school (I'll be 45 on Thanksgiving) just posted how much he is PRAYING for a civil war and the success of the secession movement. . .

At the same time my 22 year old son Daniel posted on FB that he now knows his degree in history is NOT a waste of time. . .

Feast meet famine

168 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:51:21pm

re: #160 Skip Intro

Speaking of complete fucking idiots, let's see what the owner of Free Republic has to say.

Well, the base has spoken and is crazier than ever. Oh, and could send me a couple of bucks? I'm a little short of the $360,000 I need to keep the site running.

JimRob: Douchebag nutburger with a side of FREEDOM!!!11ty Fries...

169 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:52:38pm

re: #165 Kremer

Wondering now how quickly "Maverick McCain" would have started kibitzing and criticizing a Romney admin?

He would have been sucking up to Mitt while he gave his victory speech asking that he be made SOS or SO Defense.

170 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:52:55pm

re: #152 Vicious Babushka

TEH DERP IS STRONG IN THIS ONE

[Embedded content]

WTF? Well, totally did not work for Al Gore, did it now?

(I voted for him)

171 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:53:27pm

re: #160 Skip Intro

"We are here, we are in your face and we will not retreat. We reload!!"

Hey people, were we being shot at? I didn't hear anything over the sound of Republicans losing...

Go ahead, Freepers, get out your guns. You aren't the only people in the country that own 'em.

172 aagcobb  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:54:02pm

re: #160 Skip Intro

Speaking of complete fucking idiots, let's see what the owner of Free Republic has to say.

Well, the base has spoken and is crazier than ever. Oh, and could send me a couple of bucks? I'm a little short of the $360,000 I need to keep the site running.

In the real world, Romney got 79% of the white evangelical vote, same as Bush, and it was 27% of the electorate, its highest percentage ever. And Romney still lost.

173 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:54:26pm

re: #164 wrenchwench

Image: secedePetitions.jpg

Good cartoon...it would've been better if they could've worked in a thought bubble for Lincoln saying "WTF? Not this again..."

174 nines09  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:54:34pm

Apparently Mitt missed my monthly checks from Soros. No surprise. He's missing his brain. What. A. Douche.

175 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:55:42pm

re: #170 watching you tiny alien kittens are

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Piling on...

176 EPR-radar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:56:04pm

re: #144 aagcobb

Well over time, as its elderly base dies off, someone with charisma and vision will bring centrists back to the GOP and wrest control of it from the neoconfederates. This could take some time; From 1860 through 1928 the Democrats won only 4 of 18 presidential elections.

It will be interesting. I'm hoping for a GOP civil war as entertainment.

Speaking of civil wars, I suspect the Democratic dry spell you cite might be more sectional than ideological. Civil war grudges made the South solid Democrat and the rest of the country at least lean-R for a long time.

177 Stanghazi  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:57:25pm

re: #166 darthstar

Love the new twit avi!

178 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:57:39pm

re: #173 Ben G. Hazi

Good cartoon...it would've been better if they could've worked in a thought bubble for Lincoln saying "WTF? Not this again..."

It's in his eyes....

179 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:59:25pm

re: #177 Stanghazi

Love the new twit avi!

Thanks...think I'll apply it to LGF for a bit as well.

180 Destro  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:09:25pm

Romney to staff on election night: Who let all these coloreds and kids vote?

Seriously?

181 Joanne  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:10:23pm

re: #112 Kremer

This Mint Romney ice cream tastes like sour grapes and asshole.
— Erin Gloria Ryan (@morninggloria) November 15, 2012

Best. Tweet. Ehah!!

182 Destro  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:14:51pm

A rich white guy being grilled by his rich backers and resorting to blaming minorities and youth for losing the presidential election he spent their fortune on?

It feels so good!

183 philosophus invidius  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:14:48pm
184 KiTA  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:10:40pm

Looks like Jindal is gearing up for 2016, and Romney's a very tempting punching bag:

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Lousiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) rebuffed Mitt Romney's claim that President Obama won reelection because of "gifts" to minorities and young voters, calling the statement "wrong."

"That is absolutely wrong," Jindal said at Wednesday's session of the annual Republican Governors Association meeting in Las Vegas, according to the Washington Examiner's Byron York. "I absolutely reject that notion."

185 jvic  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:20:28pm

re: #145 Obdicut

And it's dumber, the smarter you are.

Maybe smartness is not as definitive, or as extensible, as smart people would have us believe.


re: #150 dragonath

...Given that you were pulling for Romney, I wonder if his new quotes are the kind of "pleasant surprises" you had in mind.

Presumably you are quoting this comment. Afaic a fatalistic vote for a candidate I'm unimpressed by and expected to lose does not qualify as "pulling for" Romney.

186 Obdicut  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 2:05:44am

re: #185 jvic

Maybe smartness is not as definitive, or as extensible, as smart people would have us believe.

Maybe that sentence isn't as intelligible as you would have us believe. Seriously, no clue what you meant by that.

Denying global warming is dumb. It's dumber if it's being done by a smart person than someone who just isn't that bright. Cruz is obviously very bright. For him to deny global warming is very deeply stupid of him.

What about this do you have a problem with?

Presumably you are quoting this comment. Afaic a fatalistic vote for a candidate I'm unimpressed by and expected to lose does not qualify as "pulling for" Romney.

You voted for him, dude. Take some responsibility.

187 Skip Intro  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:00:00am

re: #184 KiTA

Looks like Jindal is gearing up for 2016, and Romney's a very tempting punching bag:

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Let me know when Jindal discovers that creationism isn't science.


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