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Maine GOP Chairman Investigates Cases of Voting While Black

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The chairman of Maine’s Republican Party, Charlie Webster, is investigating a very suspicious case of voting while black.

Webster made the claim in a wide-ranging, post-election interview this week with Don Carrigan of WCSH-TV.

“In some parts of rural Maine, there were dozens, dozens of black people who came in and voted on Election Day,” he said. “Everybody has a right to vote, but nobody in (these) towns knows anyone who’s black. How did that happen? I don’t know. We’re going to find out.”

When Carrigan pressed Webster on where it happened, Webster provided no specifics or proof of his claims, but said the party would investigate further.

Mr. Webster is, of course, totally outraged at suggestions that his suspicions may have racial motivations.

When asked about the issue in an interview Wednesday with the Portland Press Herald, Webster again refused to provide specifics.

He said his point is not that the new voters were black, but that they were not recognized by town officials.

“I’m not talking about 15 or 20. I’m talking hundreds,” he said Wednesday. “I’m not politically correct and maybe I shouldn’t have said these voters were black, but anyone who suggests I have a bias toward any race or group, frankly, that’s sleazy.”

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124 comments

1 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:56:13am

How could Obama have won legally? Nobody I know voted for him!!!

2 darthstar  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:56:48am

Voting while black in Maine...

“I’m not talking about 15 or 20. I’m talking hundreds,” he said Wednesday. “I’m not politically correct and maybe I shouldn’t have said these voters were black, but anyone who suggests I have a bias toward any race or group, frankly, that’s sleazy.”

Ya think? Someone needs to give this guy a mirror so he can see what sleazy really looks like.

3 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:57:16am

Town Officials didn't recognize any of them.

Well, you know, they all look the same anyway . . .

*spit*

4 GunstarGreen  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:57:18am

I support Freedom™ and Democracy™, unless they disagree with me. In that case, there was obviously fraud involved!

5 darthstar  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:57:57am
6 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:58:31am

Interview turned out to be via phone as the other fellow's Skype wasn't working right. I still did well.

7 Obdicut  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:58:53am

Turns out it was all just a big misunderstanding: It was just two black guys doing The Dozens with each other and white Maine people had never seen it before and got all confused.

8 jaunte  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:59:17am
"In some parts of rural Maine, there were dozens, dozens of black people who came in and voted on Election Day," he said. "Everybody has a right to vote, but nobody in (these) towns knows anyone who's black. How did that happen? I don't know. We're going to find out."
...
"I'm not talking about 15 or 20. I'm talking hundreds,"
...

"Those parts of Maine were so rural, that no one anywhere had a cell-phone camera to record the hundreds of black strangers voting, so we just had to rely on word of mouth."

9 Obdicut  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:00:48am

More examples of black Dozens:

10 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:01:45am

re: #2 darthstar

Voting while black in Maine...

Ya think? Someone needs to give this guy a mirror so he can see what sleazy really looks like.

I love how saying one isn't "politically correct" is now an excuse for being openly racist.

11 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:02:01am

Shit gets old. Fuck off Webster.

12 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:02:37am

re: #10 Targetpractice

I love how saying one isn't "politically correct" is now an excuse for being openly racist.

Shit, I dislike political correctness and I think opponents of it use it as an excuse to be a douchebag.

13 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:02:45am

re: #7 Obdicut

Turns out it was all just a big misunderstanding: It was just two black guys doing The Dozens with each other and white Maine people had never seen it before and got all confused.

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re: #9 Obdicut

More examples of black Dozens:

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God, haven't seen that show in ages.

Thanks for making me feel old./

14 RadicalModerate  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:02:48am

I don't know about the area in Maine where Mr. Webster lives, but I think that it is standard procedure in the United States for registered voters to be listed in that precinct's voter rolls. Here's the kicker - places with voting booths tend to have a printed record that those people have to sign, before they can vote. If they aren't on those rolls, they have to provide residence proof, then only get a provisional ballot - which aren't counted until several days later, and only when eligibility is verified.


I've got a better idea. People who obviously couldn't pass a high-school civics course have no business whatsoever being the state chair of a major political party.

15 darthstar  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:03:12am

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Interview turned out to be via phone as the other fellow's Skype wasn't working right. I still did well.

Good luck. Hiring manager or HR person? If the latter, it's always good to push for a face to face with the hiring manager. You want the HR person to report enthusiasm about getting a face to face. And when you do, have your homework done. You want to ask smart questions...questions that make them think. It will go further than good answers to their questions for you.

16 Obdicut  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:03:50am

re: #13 Targetpractice

re: #9 Obdicut

God, haven't seen that show in ages.

Thanks for making me feel old./

It really was pivotal in the career of so many great comedians. Loved that show.

17 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:04:13am

re: #7 Obdicut

Turns out it was all just a big misunderstanding: It was just two black guys doing The Dozens with each other and white Maine people had never seen it before and got all confused.

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And they were just taking Mrs Todd's shortcut.

18 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:04:29am
anyone who suggests I have a bias toward any race or group, frankly, that’s sleazy.

And, in one of the freakiest coincidences in recorded history, it turns out that the California woman who tweeted about "the ni**er president" isn't a racist either! I don't know about you, but I never would have seen that coming.

19 Destro  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:04:41am

Segregationist & racist mindset of the GOP is cognitive dissonance proof......

‘Everybody has a right to vote, but nobody in town knows anyone who’s black. How did that happen? I don’t know. We’re going to find out.’

Instead of asking themselves why they ignored a segment of their population until they became out of sight and out of mind, the GOP is asking where did all these people of color they never noticed before come from all of a sudden?

How shameful, if these bastards had some shame in them.

20 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:04:59am

re: #18 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

And, in one of the freakiest coincidences in recorded history, it turns out that the California woman who tweeted about "the ni**er president" isn't a racist either! I don't know about you, but I never would have seen that coming.

Well of course she's not a racist, because she has black friends!

//

21 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:05:03am

I'm not racist! My opponents are the real racists!

22 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:05:25am
“Everybody has a right to vote, but nobody in (these) towns knows anyone who’s black. How did that happen? I don’t know. We’re going to find out.”

This is kind of weird, because racists who try to claim to not be racist usually claim at least 1 black friend.

This guy sounds like a microcosm of the GOP leadership after the election results thumped their own skewed "polling."

"Where the fuck did all these minorities come from?!?!"

23 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:06:35am

re: #22 Ghost of Tom Joad

This is kind of weird, because racists who try to claim to not be racist usually claim at least 1 black friend.

This guy sounds like a microcosm of the GOP leadership after the election results thumped their own skewed "polling."

"Where the fuck did all these minorities come from?!?!"

From the inner city --must have been bussed out here to affect the election.

*spit*

24 darthstar  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:07:16am

re: #18 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

And, in one of the freakiest coincidences in recorded history, it turns out that the California woman who tweeted about "the ni**er president" isn't a racist either! I don't know about you, but I never would have seen that coming.

She worked at a Cold Stone Creamery or some other strip mall shop like that...and got fired over it. She'll be working in customer service at a Macy's somewhere for the holidays...they love bigots.

25 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:07:49am

re: #23 Gretchen G.Tiger

From the inner city --must have been bussed out here to affect the election.

DAMNED URBAN VOTERS!!!

26 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:07:56am

re: #24 darthstar

She worked at a Cold Stone Creamery or some other strip mall shop like that...and got fired over it. She'll be working in customer service at a Macy's somewhere for the holidays...they love bigots.

That reminds me, I have to make sure to not shop at Macy's for the holidays.

27 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:08:00am

re: #24 darthstar

She worked at a Cold Stone Creamery or some other strip mall shop like that...and got fired over it. She'll be working in customer service at a Macy's somewhere for the holidays...they love bigots.

Cold Stone, yeah.

28 darthstar  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:09:03am

re: #27 HappyWarrior

Cold Stone, yeah.

I got a waffle cone from them, once, about 16 years ago. Haven't felt the need to go back since.

29 Kragar  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:09:23am

Ah yes, the mysterious bussed in voters, where no one got a bus company name, a photo of the bus, or the picture of the crowd of people showing up to vote.

30 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:09:45am

re: #14 RadicalModerate

I don't know about the area in Maine where Mr. Webster lives, but I think that it is standard procedure in the United States for registered voters to be listed in that precinct's voter rolls. Here's the kicker - places with voting booths tend to have a printed record that those people have to sign, before they can vote. If they aren't on those rolls, they have to provide residence proof, then only get a provisional ballot - which aren't counted until several days later, and only when eligibility is verified.

I've got a better idea. People who obviously couldn't pass a high-school civics course have no business whatsoever being the state chair of a major political party.

Maine has same-day voter registration. An eligible voter isn't necessarily going to be on the voter rolls. Also, this:

Provisional (Challenged) Ballots

In Maine, a challenged ballot means a ballot cast by one whose eligibility to vote has been questioned during election day.

All challenged ballots are initially counted in the same manner as regular ballots. No further determination is made on the challenge unless a recount occurs and it is determined that the challenged ballot could affect the outcome of the election. Therefore, all challenged ballots cast in districts where no recounts occur will have been counted.

31 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:09:54am

re: #29 Kragar

Ah yes, the mysterious bussed in voters, where no one got a bus company name, a photo of the bus, or the picture of the crowd of people showing up to vote.

Dude, are you doubting the testimony of dozens of pissed off wingnuts who are in no way racist because they say so?

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32 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:10:13am

re: #29 Kragar

Ah yes, the mysterious bussed in voters, where no one got a bus company name, a photo of the bus, or the picture of the crowd of people showing up to vote.

Or Tweeted about it at the time it allegedly happened.

33 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:10:31am

re: #5 darthstar

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Duplicity, it's what's for dinner!

34 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:11:16am

re: #22 Ghost of Tom Joad

"Where the fuck did all these minorities come from?!?!"

looking for the white women?

35 jaunte  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:11:21am

Rural Maine; smoke signals or nothing.

36 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:11:29am

re: #26 Vicious Babushka

That reminds me, I have to make sure to not shop at Macy's for the holidays.

Crap, what's wrong with Macy's now?

37 darthstar  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:11:34am
38 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:11:55am

re: #36 SanFranciscoZionist

Crap, what's wrong with Macy's now?

They are promoting Donald Trump's line of crap from China.

And his signature fragrance! Who would want to smell like Donald Trump. That would be skanky.

39 RadicalModerate  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:12:13am

re: #5 darthstar

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Bah. Rank amateurs compared to this one.

Image: KFC-JDRF.jpg

40 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:12:23am

re: #15 darthstar

Good luck. Hiring manager or HR person? If the latter, it's always good to push for a face to face with the hiring manager. You want the HR person to report enthusiasm about getting a face to face. And when you do, have your homework done. You want to ask smart questions...questions that make them think. It will go further than good answers to their questions for you.

Hiring manager. I'm not going to get a face to face, though, since he's in California.

41 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:13:00am

re: #38 Vicious Babushka

They are promoting Donald Trump's line of crap from China.

I guess I'm stuck with what Rebecca Bloomwood calls the worthy lentil catalog.

Or perhaps Nordstrom.

42 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:13:04am

re: #37 darthstar

Fox still trying to work out the whole inclusive thing...

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

pics:
Image: Screen-shot-2012-11-15-at-12.57.03-PM-300x166.png
Image: Screen-shot-2012-11-15-at-12.57.28-PM-300x167.png

Stay classy dipshits.

43 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:13:25am

re: #41 SanFranciscoZionist

I guess I'm stuck with what Rebecca Bloomwood calls the worthy lentil catalog.

Or perhaps Nordstrom.

Yeah, Nordstrom.

44 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:14:27am

re: #43 Vicious Babushka

Yeah, Nordstrom.

or the Zionist Mall?

:)

45 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:14:33am

re: #34 Sol Berdinowitz

looking for the white women?

Longer clip:

46 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:15:09am

re: #37 darthstar

Fox still trying to work out the whole inclusive thing...

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

pics:
Image: Screen-shot-2012-11-15-at-12.57.03-PM-300x166.png
Image: Screen-shot-2012-11-15-at-12.57.28-PM-300x167.png

Because really, after just getting your ass handed to you in the polls, what better spells "outreach" like ramping up the racism?

47 darthstar  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:15:10am

re: #40 Dark_Falcon

Hiring manager. I'm not going to get a face to face, though, since he's in California.

You're not relocating, are you? You move out here and in a month you'll be eating garden burgers and smell of patchouli.

48 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:16:38am

re: #46 Targetpractice

Because really, after just getting your ass handed to you in the polls, what better spells "outreach" like ramping up the racism?

Or claiming that you lost because of "gifts."

49 makeitstop  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:16:45am

You'd think if Dems were so committed to voter fraud, they'd at least get white people to go into rural Maine. Nobody would even notice them.
/

50 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:17:01am

bbl

51 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:17:17am

re: #44 Gretchen G.Tiger

or the Zionist Mall?

:)

FOR SURE!

52 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:17:38am

re: #47 darthstar

You're not relocating, are you? You move out here and in a month you'll be eating garden burgers and smell of patchouli.

Ugh, patchouli. Stuff is horrid.

53 Kragar  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:17:39am

Occupy debt-relief campaign buys $100,000 worth of debt

Members of a debt relief project borne from the Occupy Wall Street campaign said Wednesday they have purchased more than $100,000 worth of medical debt in a second trial run for their efforts.

Thomas Gokey, a spokesperson for the Rolling Jubilee campaign, said the debt was purchased for $5,000. Earlier this year, the group bought $14,000 worth of debt for $500.

“We are buying debt that is being sold on the secondary market for pennies on the dollar,” Gokey said in a conference call. “We are doing it in exactly the same way that [debt collectors] do it, with one big difference: we are abolishing the debt as we buy it.”

Normally, he said, such businesses acquire debt on the cheap and then hound debtors for the full amount.

“This debt is immoral, but the immorality of it comes down on the side of the lenders, not on the side of the debtors,” Gokey said. “We’re being told that we have a moral obligation to pay these debts, and Strike Debt’s main message is that many of these debts are illegitimate, and that we should form a way of resistance and refusal to these debts.”

54 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:18:12am

re: #47 darthstar

You're not relocating, are you? You move out here and in a month you'll be eating garden burgers and smell of patchouli.

No, the job would be in Chicago.

55 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:18:18am

You know I had forgotten that Ron Paul retired. That's good news. Sick of his hypocritical ass.

56 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:18:19am

I guess they thought 7% was too much of the black vote. In 2016 they're aiming for 0.07%.

57 darthstar  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:19:05am
58 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:19:30am

re: #55 HappyWarrior

You know I had forgotten that Ron Paul retired. That's good news. Sick of his hypocritical ass.

He is going to take to the airwaves and have the LUAP NOR channel. (BUY) Gold and Oldies all day long.
/

59 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:20:30am

re: #53 Kragar

Occupy debt-relief campaign buys $100,000 worth of debt

Willing seller + willing buyer = I have no problem with this action.

60 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:20:52am

re: #57 darthstar

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Willard's not just burned whatever good faith he still had left in the party, he's gone ahead and salted the Earth. I don't expect see him taken seriously for any future political run or appointment.

61 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:20:53am

re: #55 HappyWarrior

You know I had forgotten that Ron Paul retired. That's good news. Sick of his hypocritical ass.

It still ain't all rainbows and unicorn farts...Rand is still in Congress.

62 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:21:51am

re: #61 Ben G. Hazi

It still ain't all rainbows and unicorn farts...Rand is still in Congress.

On the upside, we did get rid of Allen West and Joe Walsh, even if West still refuses to concede.

63 dragonfire1981  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:22:16am

Should I think it sad I am seriously considering possibly moving back to Canada after I get my U.S. citizenship?

This house will be paid off by then and I'm getting tired of the political shenanigans and health care drama in this country.

Though I do kind of like being able to target shoot in my backyard, I'd be willing to give that up.

As a citizen, I'd be able to come back to America whenever I wanted anyway.

64 elektramourns  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:23:26am

We need to make sure the real Americans, you know, the white people, are stomping around the woods (preferably with guns) and looking for black people next election as they move into the election centers. My God, we can't allow such low lifes to vote.

Really though, if you think the GOP is racist in the north, you should see them in the South where I live. They use the N word all the time, always saying before they use, "I know this is not politically correct, but...' The GOP is part and parcel of America's underbelly, the anti-black, anti-immigrant, xenophobic type of white person who cannot grasp that the world is passing him by, and cannot understand why people of a different color are eating their lunch every day, getting ahead and pursuing the American dream why they sit on their cans getting nowhere fast.

The South and the GOP go hand in hand. The South was made for the GOP and its narrowminded, bigoted cadres. A marriage made in Hell.

To think that this was the party of Abe, of Rockefeller, of Henry Cabot Lodge, and of so many decent men, and women, such as Maragret Chase Smith of--where else--Maine.

65 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:23:38am

re: #61 Ben G. Hazi

It still ain't all rainbows and unicorn farts...Rand is still in Congress.

Yeah I know and in the Senate to boot. I expect him to be a big DSCC target in 2016 though.

66 darthstar  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:24:41am

re: #60 Targetpractice

Willard's not just burned whatever good faith he still had left in the party, he's gone ahead and salted the Earth. I don't expect see him taken seriously for any future political run or appointment.

Funny how people in the GOP are floating Romney's name for a position in Obama's cabinet. "He did it with Hillary!" Yes, but she has a soul.

67 Obdicut  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:24:51am

re: #64 elektramourns

When you talk about the South, you are completely leaving out the black citizens of the South. That ain't good either.

68 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:26:02am

re: #66 darthstar

Funny how people in the GOP are floating Romney's name for a position in Obama's cabinet. "He did it with Hillary!" Yes, but she has a soul.

I find it magnanimous that Obama has said he is willing to even talk to him after that campaign.

69 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:26:34am

re: #66 darthstar

Funny how people in the GOP are floating Romney's name for a position in Obama's cabinet. "He did it with Hillary!" Yes, but she has a soul.

and she's actually competent. Really though, when's the last time a president ever put his general election opponent in the cabinet? Hell would Mitt even want a position? You know it kills him that he lost to the guy and he would have to call him boss.

70 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:26:52am

re: #60 Targetpractice

He's done. Now that the election is over, I think most people, even those who voted for him, are happy he's gone, and will gladly roast his nuts over an open fire. Odious person.

Thankfully he wasn't in any elected office to continue being a scathing douche like Walnuts. I think Romney will quickly be thrown under the bus and lost from the national consciousness, sort of like they did with Dubya after 2008.

71 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:27:44am

re: #66 darthstar

Funny how people in the GOP are floating Romney's name for a position in Obama's cabinet. "He did it with Hillary!" Yes, but she has a soul.

I wasn't aware that Obama's Cabinet needed a clueless consummate liar.
:p

72 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:28:19am

They're already distancing themselves from him. If he had said this crap while he was running, they would have defended but now that he's a loser, they'll forget like he ever was their standard bearer. Just like McCain and Bush.

73 Kragar  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:28:51am

Republicans After ‘Gifts’ Comment: Get Off The Stage, Mitt

The Republican critics of Mitt Romney have had enough of their party’s failed presidential nominee. After Romney told donors his loss last week was due to “gifts” President Obama and the Democrats bestowed on women and minorities, Republicans are essentially coming together in a collective “go away, Mitt.”

74 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:29:04am

re: #55 HappyWarrior

You know I had forgotten that Ron Paul retired. That's good news. Sick of his hypocritical ass.

So we have Obama's win, the gay-rights wins, AND this. Awesomesauce.

75 Jolo5309  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:29:35am

re: #69 HappyWarrior

and she's actually competent.

That is the thing that anyone taking over her job will have trouble with, she was good at her job.

If they give it to Mitt, you guys will be at war with Europe within days.

76 simoom  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:30:06am

[Link: thecable.foreignpolicy.com...]

Republicans skip Benghazi hearing; complain about lack of information on Benghazi

...

But although McCain had time to speak on the Senate floor and on television about the lack of information provided to Congress about the attack, he didn't attend the classified briefing for senators Wednesday given to the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, of which he is a member.

Committee ranking Republican Susan Collins (R-ME) called out McCain for skipping the briefing and said his call for a special committee to investigate the Benghazi attack was not necessary because the Homeland Security committee could handle it.

...

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), another Homeland Security committee member who was on television complaining about the lack of Benghazi information, also did not show up for the Wednesday hearing.

...

The closed and classified briefing included representatives from the State Department, the Defense Department, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the National Counterterrorism Center, and the FBI, an administration official said.

77 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:30:08am

re: #66 darthstar

Funny how people in the GOP are floating Romney's name for a position in Obama's cabinet. "He did it with Hillary!" Yes, but she has a soul.

Hillary was also a fellow Democrat, giving the whole thing an air of bringing the party back together after a contentious primary season. Naming Willard to any post in the Obama Admin would not win the GOP over, if anything it would probably just give them something else to gripe about.

78 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:30:42am

re: #75 Jolo5309

That is the thing that anyone taking over her job will have trouble with, she was good at her job.

If they give it to Mitt, you guys will be at war with Europe within days.

I think Obama would consider offering SoS to me before he would Romney. Kidding obviously but yeah she's been a great SoS. I really hope her replacement can be as successful as she was.

79 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:31:49am

re: #66 darthstar

Funny how people in the GOP are floating Romney's name for a position in Obama's cabinet. "He did it with Hillary!" Yes, but she has a soul.

He did it with Hillary...you can't be serious, people are using that line to push for a Rmoney appointment? That's weapons-grade dumbshittery. Hillary was appointed because she's a succesful politician, super-smart, had a large cadre of support that Obama coveted, not to mention kept Bill in the mix as a supporter/promoter.

Mitt offers nothing.

80 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:31:54am

Obama should name Romney his press secretary for briefings to FOX News only.

81 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:32:05am

re: #76 simoom

You can't make this stuff up.

82 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:33:19am

re: #81 Bulworth

You can't make this stuff up.

But if they go to the hearing they can then be called on lying about Benghazi when they continue to tantrum about it.
//

83 Obdicut  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:34:23am

re: #76 simoom

[Link: thecable.foreignpolicy.com...]

Oh my god, what transparent assholes. What fucking prima donnas. They keep finding ways to make their behavior over this more fucking odious.

84 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:35:22am

re: #73 Kragar

Republicans After ‘Gifts’ Comment: Get Off The Stage, Mitt

From the link:

Ana Navarro, a Republican strategist who helmed Hispanic outreach for John McCain in 2008 and worked for Jon Huntsman in 2012, was also critical of Romney through the campaign for his failure to engage minority communities. She took to her Twitter feed after “gifts” to tie the remarks to his broader shortcomings as a candidate.

“Livid at Romney saying Obama won b/c offered minorities ‘gifts,”’ she wrote. “As if he didn’t alienate Hispanics enuf while running! Look in mirror, Mitt.”

lol. I can imagine Romney reading her tweet and being confused as to why she thinks he should look in a mirror. Stray booger dangling from nostril hair perhaps cost the election? Hispanic beggars sneaking up behind him? Suggesting he perform a level 3 diagnostic on his proprioception engine?

85 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:35:26am

re: #76 simoom

[Link: thecable.foreignpolicy.com...]

Somebody get McCain a bottle. Seriously, if you think this is like Watergate, senator, attend the fucking committee hearings and stop showing a pathetic grudge to the president.

86 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:35:29am

re: #79 Ghost of Tom Joad

He did it with Hillary...you can't be serious, people are using that line to push for a Rmoney appointment? That's weapons-grade dumbshittery. Hillary was appointed because she's a succesful politician, super-smart, had a large cadre of support that Obama coveted, not to mention kept Bill in the mix as a supporter/promoter.

Mitt offers nothing.

The argument seems to be a very pie-in-the-sky one, the idea that appointing Romney to any post in the Obama administration would mollify the GOP after a very heated election by giving "one of their own" a seat at the table.

In related news, Prime Minister Chamberlain promised "peace in our time" with Germany.

87 butterick  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:35:49am

These uncanny blacks obviously emerged straight from Obama's Kenyan voodoo manwomb. What white can compete with that kind of socialist sorcery?

88 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:36:36am

re: #78 HappyWarrior

I think Obama would consider offering SoS to me before he would Romney. Kidding obviously but yeah she's been a great SoS. I really hope her replacement can be as successful as she was.

I have name to put in the hat for SoS.
Dianna Feinstein. She is nearing the end of a first class political career and would work wonders for State.
She is my favorite Dem.

89 Big Steve  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:36:59am

Al Gore just finished an AMA on Reddit. It was pretty good actually. Good questions and answers.

90 Kragar  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:37:21am

Bozell: Obama must Yield to House Republicans because 'We Have a Larger Vote than he Received'

Media Research Center founder Brent Bozell appeared on The Janet Mefferd Show to discuss the demands he made alongside other conservative activists, including Marjorie Dannenfelser, Alfred Regnery, Richard Viguerie, Jeff Bell and Jenny Beth Martin, for Republican leaders in Congress to step down after their election defeats. According to Bozell and others, the GOP suffered humiliating losses because the party wasn’t conservative enough. He told Mefferd that figures calling on House Speaker John Boehner to compromise with President Obama are really asking Republicans to “surrender our principles” and that Obama should be the one who should succumb to the Republican position. “Why isn’t he compromising with us?” Bozell asked, “We have a larger vote than he received.”

91 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:37:37am

re: #88 Digital Display

I have name to put in the hat for SoS.
Dianna Feinstein. She is nearing the end of a first class political career and would work wonders for State.
She is my favorite Dem.

Haven't seen her mentioned. My pick would be Senator Kerry though. Maybe not the most charismatic guy in the world but someone who understands foreign policy.

92 Killgore Trout  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:37:43am

re: #89 Big Steve

Al Gore just finished an AMA on Reddit. It was pretty good actually. Good questions and answers.

Is he promoting a book or something?

93 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:39:44am

re: #90 Kragar

Bozell: Obama must Yield to House Republicans because 'We Have a Larger Vote than he Received'

Somehow I doubt Mr. Bozell was saying that Bush needed to defer to the Democrats in 2004 because I think the Dems had more votes in the House that time too. But hey it's time to play "Let's put special standards on President Obama because our ODS effects our ability to use any reason whatsoever."

94 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:39:56am

Yahoo! headline just now:

McCain misses classified hearing while blasting White House

Fabulous.

95 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:39:57am

re: #90 Kragar

Bozell: Obama must Yield to House Republicans because 'We Have a Larger Vote than he Received'

"We lost the presidency, but damnit, we still think we should be in charge!"

96 Big Steve  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:40:14am

re: #92 Killgore Trout

Is he promoting a book or something?

Nope.....just redditing.

Reddit question: You're only one Tony award away from an EGOT (Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, Tony). What plans do you have in that regard?

Gore Answer: I've got my eyes on the Heisman.

97 darthstar  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:40:47am

re: #94 Bulworth

Yahoo! headline just now:

McCain misses classified hearing while blasting White House

Fabulous.

IT WAS A SCHEDULING CONFLICT! AND CAMERAS WEREN'T ALLOWED IN THE HEARING

98 Killgore Trout  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:41:12am

re: #96 Big Steve

Nope.....just redditing.

Reddit question: You're only one Tony award away from an EGOT (Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, Tony). What plans do you have in that regard?

Gore Answer: I've got my eyes on the Heisman.

lol

99 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:41:51am

OK. Question to the Lizards about something important. Food.

Will have limited cooking prep time this evening. Feeding three adults (the 4-year-old doesn't really count since she never eats much of what is served regardless.) Nothing long cooking since I figure I have 60-90 min max for getting the whole meal together.

Trying to avoid chicken and turkey tonight since chicken was part of dinner last night and I had turkey for lunch. No corn allowed either.

The main items I have on hand:
Fish (frozen and breaded, so sort of :p on them)
Shrimp, large (24 count) (1 lb, frozen)
Potatoes (Russet, 5lb)
Various frozen vegetables; green beans, spinach, green peppers
Can fix rice or cracked buckwheat as a side fairly easily.
A fairly good spice cabinet and supporting items (flour, corn starch, etc.)

I can also hit a store on the way home for a few extra items (onions, etc.)

I can do a green beans dish and baked potatoes pretty easily. The shrimp could be something simple like a cocktail, or maybe do shrimp scampi and cook a little pasta or steam rice to go with it.

Any suggestions from the Lizard Gallery?

100 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:41:59am

re: #97 darthstar

That really says it all, McCain and Graham couldn't be bothered to show up for the hearing because there's no way for them to grandstand without cameras in attendance.

101 aagcobb  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:42:49am

re: #64 elektramourns

We need to make sure the real Americans, you know, the white people, are stomping around the woods (preferably with guns) and looking for black people next election as they move into the election centers. My God, we can't allow such low lifes to vote.

Really though, if you think the GOP is racist in the north, you should see them in the South where I live. They use the N word all the time, always saying before they use, "I know this is not politically correct, but...' The GOP is part and parcel of America's underbelly, the anti-black, anti-immigrant, xenophobic type of white person who cannot grasp that the world is passing him by, and cannot understand why people of a different color are eating their lunch every day, getting ahead and pursuing the American dream why they sit on their cans getting nowhere fast.

The South and the GOP go hand in hand. The South was made for the GOP and its narrowminded, bigoted cadres. A marriage made in Hell.

To think that this was the party of Abe, of Rockefeller, of Henry Cabot Lodge, and of so many decent men, and women, such as Maragret Chase Smith of--where else--Maine.

Yep, I plan to see Lincoln this weekend, and remember the GOP as it use to be. From the President who had one of the finest souls to a nominee who appears to have none.

102 Obdicut  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:44:08am

re: #101 aagcobb

Yep, I plan to see Lincoln this weekend, and remember the GOP as it use to be. From the President who had one of the finest souls to a nominee who appears to have none.

There's really no need to kick Romney while he's down. The GOP will take care of that.

103 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:45:26am

re: #101 aagcobb

Yep, I plan to see Lincoln this weekend, and remember the GOP as it use to be. From the President who had one of the finest souls to a nominee who appears to have none.

I'm finally reading Team of Rivals. Man reading about guys like Lincoln, Seward, Chase, etc it really reminds you that once upon a time that the GOP was not only the more progressive party but they were proud to be that.

104 aagcobb  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:46:07am

re: #70 Ghost of Tom Joad

He's done. Now that the election is over, I think most people, even those who voted for him, are happy he's gone, and will gladly roast his nuts over an open fire. Odious person.

Thankfully he wasn't in any elected office to continue being a scathing douche like Walnuts. I think Romney will quickly be thrown under the bus and lost from the national consciousness, sort of like they did with Dubya after 2008.

I would guess that like Dubya, Romney will be nowhere to be found and completely unmentioned at the 2016 GOP Convention. An unperson.

105 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:47:13am

re: #102 Obdicut

There's really no need to kick Romney while he's down. The GOP will take care of that.

I imagine the real horror stories will come out in about a year, when the campaign staff he left high and dry not even a day after he lost the election. No shortage of dirt or skeletons in our future.

106 darthstar  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:48:02am

re: #99 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears

OK. Question to the Lizards about something important. Food.

Will have limited cooking prep time this evening. Feeding three adults (the 4-year-old doesn't really count since she never eats much of what is served regardless.) Nothing long cooking since I figure I have 60-90 min max for getting the whole meal together.

Trying to avoid chicken and turkey tonight since chicken was part of dinner last night and I had turkey for lunch. No corn allowed either.

The main items I have on hand:
Fish (frozen and breaded, so sort of :p on them)
Shrimp, large (24 count) (1 lb, frozen)
Potatoes (Russet, 5lb)
Various frozen vegetables; green beans, spinach, green peppers
Can fix rice or cracked buckwheat as a side fairly easily.
A fairly good spice cabinet and supporting items (flour, corn starch, etc.)

I can also hit a store on the way home for a few extra items (onions, etc.)

I can do a green beans dish and baked potatoes pretty easily. The shrimp could be something simple like a cocktail, or maybe do shrimp scampi and cook a little pasta or steam rice to go with it.

Any suggestions from the Lizard Gallery?

Pick up a bell pepper, an onion, a can of coconut milk, and maybe a jalapeno pepper if people like a little heat. If you can, get a small jar of Thai red curry.

Put shrimp in a bowl of water to defrost. Sautee onions, cubed potatoes, and diced bell for about five to ten minutes, add tablespoon of red curry paste, the coconut milk and diced jalapeno(scrape insides out to reduce heat if you need to)...reduce to simmer for about 20 minutes. Put rice on cooker (or cook it on the stove like a fucking savage). About 10 minutes before rice is done, add shrimp to simmering vegetables.

35-40 minutes start to finish.

107 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:48:27am

Definitely looking forward to the insider accounts from Team Romney especially after reading about him cancelling their credit cards and them having to pay cabfare home in cash. You know damn well that there were probably other instances like that throughout the campaign.

108 darthstar  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:48:35am

re: #106 darthstar

Pick up a bell pepper, an onion, a can of coconut milk, and maybe a jalapeno pepper if people like a little heat. If you can, get a small jar of Thai red curry.

Put shrimp in a bowl of water to defrost. Sautee onions, cubed potatoes, and diced bell for about five to ten minutes, add tablespoon of red curry paste, the coconut milk and diced jalapeno(scrape insides out to reduce heat if you need to)...reduce to simmer for about 20 minutes. Put rice on cooker (or cook it on the stove like a fucking savage). About 10 minutes before rice is done, add shrimp to simmering vegetables.

35-40 minutes start to finish.

Dice a carrot in as well for added color.

109 darthstar  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:49:21am

re: #102 Obdicut

There's really no need to kick Romney while he's down. The GOP will take care of that.

And they are. It's exactly what I predicted (and asked for) before the election.

110 elektramourns  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:50:48am

They are all piling onto Benghazi as a form of revenge. They will not give up their batshit craziness. They got their fucking asses handed to them on a silver platter last week. You would think there would be some period of self-reflection, some analysis. You would think they would grasp that America rejected their anti-science, anti-immigrant, anti-union, anti-women, anti-intellectual agenda.

Oh no, not these fuckers. They wil keep this shit up until they fucking win.

Honest to God, are you fucking filled to the brim with Fox and the GOP concordance ! ??

111 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:53:36am

re: #108 darthstar

Dice a carrot in as well for added color.

That sounds interesting. Will see if I can find the cocoanut milk and give it a try. (Not worried about the hot pepper - I have two Thai dragon pepper plants on the window sill that are still putting out peppers. :) )

My backup plan is:
Pan-seared shrimp (will go peppery with them)
Buckwheat pilaf (w/ onion and garlic)
Will heat up a vegetable as well, probably carrots.

112 sagehen  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:56:35am

re: #69 HappyWarrior

and she's actually competent. Really though, when's the last time a president ever put his general election opponent in the cabinet? Hell would Mitt even want a position? You know it kills him that he lost to the guy and he would have to call him boss.

Season 7 of West Wing -- President Santos (Jimmy Smits) asked Arnie Vinick (Alan Alda) to be his Secretary of State.

113 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:57:56am

re: #99 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears

OK. Question to the Lizards about something important. Food.

Will have limited cooking prep time this evening. Feeding three adults (the 4-year-old doesn't really count since she never eats much of what is served regardless.) Nothing long cooking since I figure I have 60-90 min max for getting the whole meal together.

Trying to avoid chicken and turkey tonight since chicken was part of dinner last night and I had turkey for lunch. No corn allowed either.

The main items I have on hand:
Fish (frozen and breaded, so sort of :p on them)
Shrimp, large (24 count) (1 lb, frozen)
Potatoes (Russet, 5lb)
Various frozen vegetables; green beans, spinach, green peppers
Can fix rice or cracked buckwheat as a side fairly easily.
A fairly good spice cabinet and supporting items (flour, corn starch, etc.)

I can also hit a store on the way home for a few extra items (onions, etc.)

I can do a green beans dish and baked potatoes pretty easily. The shrimp could be something simple like a cocktail, or maybe do shrimp scampi and cook a little pasta or steam rice to go with it.

Any suggestions from the Lizard Gallery?

Shrimp stir-fry? Shrimp fried rice?

114 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 12:02:00pm
Frank says:

I'm not black, but there's a whole lot of times I wish I could say I'm not white.

Nope, not random. Keywords?

115 sagehen  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 12:06:09pm

re: #105 Targetpractice

I imagine the real horror stories will come out in about a year, when the campaign staff he left high and dry not even a day after he lost the election. No shortage of dirt or skeletons in our future.

You think it'll take that long?!? I give it a month, tops.

116 BongCrodny  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 12:06:42pm

I posted in an earlier thread that this isn't Charlie Webster's first "OMG VOTING SCANDAL" incident -- he was convinced that college students were illegally voting in Maine, and in 2011 sent a list of 206 names to Charlie Summers, the Republican Secretary of State.

Summers conducted his own investigation, and found exactly *one* incident of voting fraud. In 2002.

Charlie also had his own incident with a "voting scandal." Apparently convinced that all students vote for Democrats or something, he sided with college Republicans at the University of Maine at Farmington after they reserved university vans for election day -- and then parked them, so they couldn't be used to transport students to the polls.

"I believe it's totally inappropriate to use any taxpayer money for politics," Webster said at the time.

Charlie's stepping down as the head of the Maine GOP, and I sure as hell won't miss him.

117 allegro  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 12:12:22pm

re: #69 HappyWarrior

and she's actually competent. Really though, when's the last time a president ever put his general election opponent in the cabinet? Hell would Mitt even want a position? You know it kills him that he lost to the guy and he would have to call him boss.

Heh, now THAT would be schadenfreude. Romney as Obama's butler.

118 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 12:13:09pm

re: #95 Targetpractice

Bozell's actually quoting from the Constitution about that vote thing. Article 25, section 32, paragraph 19

119 allegro  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 12:15:07pm

re: #76 simoom

[Link: thecable.foreignpolicy.com...]

This tells us everything we need to know about how much they really give a shit about finding the "truth." It's all theater and self-promotion. Assholes.

120 allegro  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 12:23:20pm

re: #104 aagcobb

I would guess that like Dubya, Romney will be nowhere to be found and completely unmentioned at the 2016 GOP Convention. An unperson.

If there's anything Republicans hate more than minorities and women, it's losers.

121 Lidane  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 1:48:24pm

re: #15 darthstar

Good luck. Hiring manager or HR person? If the latter, it's always good to push for a face to face with the hiring manager. You want the HR person to report enthusiasm about getting a face to face. And when you do, have your homework done. You want to ask smart questions...questions that make them think. It will go further than good answers to their questions for you.

I turned my application around and asked both my hiring manager and the COO of my company where they saw this company going in the next 5 years, and where they saw the office I now work in evolving at the same time.

It must have worked. I got a face to face interview and the job. :D

122 Redshirts Lament  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 3:18:02pm

Mainer here. The Repugs got smoked here after unprecedented victories in 2010. The entire state rallied against them - it was glorious.

For this ass-clown to come out and say this shit, without a shred of evidence, is emblematic of not just the new breed of Wingnuts in Maine (Republicans here not too long ago were fairly reasonable), and across the country.

123 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 3:29:28pm

re: #122 Redshirts Lament

Welcome, hatchling.

124 Redshirts Lament  Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:03:56pm

re: #123 wrenchwench

I am hatched.


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