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1 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 1:48:30pm

This is the sort of scandal that is tailor-made for Stephen Colbert's style. He hits the ball onto Sheffield Avenue with ease.

/Wrigley Field reference.

2 Kragar  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:15:27pm

Glenn Beck In Fantasy Land: If Petraeus is 'Truly Redeemed,' He'll Admit He Lied to Congress About Benghazi

Since nothing about Beck's conspiracy is in any way rooted in reality, it did not come as much of a surprise when he spun an elaborate fantasy scenario on his radio program today in which the Petraeus finally realizes that he has bottomed out and therefore decides to come clean by going before Congress today to admit that he was forced to lie about the attack in Libya in order to protect the White House, as Beck declared that "if he is truly redeemed, he will do that today" since "a man with real honor will redeem himself" by being willing to go to prison for telling the truth:

3 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:24:24pm
A steamy episode of “General’s Hospital”

Featuring generals McSteamy McDreamy and McChrystal.

4 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:27:10pm

re: #2 Kragar

Glenn Beck In Fantasy Land: If Petraeus is 'Truly Redeemed,' He'll Admit He Lied to Congress About Benghazi

So the redemption for which Christ gave his life to gain for humankind is only available to David Petraeus if he validates Glenn Beck's conspiracy theory?

Image: img.jpg

5 Charles Johnson  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:27:10pm

I have to admit I lol'ed when he was exchanging soap opera looks with Susan Lucci.

Colbert's expressions are a deadly comedy weapon.

6 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:30:25pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

I have to admit I lol'ed when he was exchanging soap opera looks with Susan Lucci.

Colbert's expressions are a deadly comedy weapon.

And bringing her in for the act was just pitch perfect.

7 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:39:58pm

Grover Norquist: Any Tax Plan that Generates Additional Revenue From Deduction Changes Violates Pledge

My latest Page, for all those who wish to mock the Pledgemaster's destructive antics and/or discuss what to do about them.

8 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:41:47pm
9 freetoken  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:43:30pm

The right-pundits have been whining that the "librul" media has been dominating the public's perception, especially about the recent election, and this Colbert clip demonstrates why indeed those evil leftists over at Comedy Central get so much attention - it's because they are good.

Prurient America sits on the couch right next to Puritanical America. Our obsession with hiding sex-related issues only makes said issues an obsession even more.

10 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:43:54pm

Anyone else notice google news really doesn't "sort by date" very well anymore?

11 freetoken  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:45:19pm

re: #10 Killgore Trout

There's a lot of things that Google Whatever doesn't do as well as it used to. They've "improved" it. I dislike the new interface on the search engine, as it makes me take an additional step to do some of the things I used to do quite often.

12 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:45:21pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout

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Are they saying they nailed those two Hamas dirtbags or that they plan to do so?

13 Destro  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:45:59pm

I gots to get my stories!

14 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:46:58pm

re: #11 freetoken

There's a lot of things that Google Whatever doesn't do as well as it used to. They've "improved" it. I dislike the new interface on the search engine, as it makes me take an additional step to do some of the things I used to do quite often.

Yeah, I'm hoping some of these design "features" get changed soon.

15 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:47:06pm

re: #12 Dark_Falcon

Are they saying they nailed those two Hamas dirtbags or that they plan to do so?

Are there fjords in Gaza?

16 freetoken  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:48:21pm

re: #14 Killgore Trout

Part of me suspects that Google is trying to explore ways to slowly take the freebie drug away, in an attempt to offer it back later for a price, like a drug dealer with a long, multi-year plan for his addicts.

17 OhNoZombies!  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:48:58pm

re: #16 freetoken

Part of me suspects that Google is trying to explore ways to slowly take the freebie drug away, in an attempt to offer it back later for a price, like a drug dealer with a long, multi-year plan for his addicts.

The first taste is free...

18 Obdicut  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:49:13pm

re: #16 freetoken

Heh. You seriously think Google wants to charge individual users for search?

19 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:50:09pm

re: #12 Dark_Falcon

Are they saying they nailed those two Hamas dirtbags or that they plan to do so?

Looks like they've already been taken out
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

High-level Hamas commander and missile operator killed – IDF

Hamas has confirmed that a high-level military commander, Amad abu Jalal, was among those killed in the strike earlier today that killed four (updated from 3) inside the Al Maghazi camp.

Abu Jalal, 43, has been described as a field commander and anti-tank specialist.

UPDATE: The IDF says Hamas "chief missile operator" Khaled Shayar has been killed as well. It is unclear where Shayar was killed; his name was not on a list of four killed at the camp.

20 freetoken  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:50:13pm

re: #18 Obdicut

Heh. You seriously think Google wants to charge individual users for search?

They want to find a way to make more money off of it. As such, I think one of their strategies is to slowly turn the flow of seekers in particular directions, directions they intend to control.

21 Obdicut  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:51:23pm

re: #20 freetoken

They want to find a way to make more money off of it.

Why do you think this is true? They make shitloads of money off of it as it is. Mindboggling amounts that increase every year without charging the user.

As such, I think one of their strategies is to slowly turn the flow of seekers in particular directions, directions they intend to control.

No clue what this means.

22 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:52:08pm

re: #19 Killgore Trout

Looks like they've already been taken out
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

Ah, so they've become ex-terrorists. Then we'll leave it at that.

re: #15 Decatur Deb

Are there fjords in Gaza?

No, but I heard that one of those Hamas leaders owned a Norwegian Blue Parrot.

//

23 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:52:55pm

re: #20 freetoken

They want to find a way to make more money off of it. As such, I think one of their strategies is to slowly turn the flow of seekers in particular directions, directions they intend to control.

Possibly. It's interesting to see the web develop and the strategies used to make money. The most popular tactic seems to be harvesting personal info. Google, Facebook, possibly twitter, all seem to exist with the sole purpose of harvesting personal information.

24 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:52:56pm

re: #22 Dark_Falcon

Ah, so they've become ex-terrorists. Then we'll leave it at that.

re: #15 Decatur Deb

No, but I heard that one of those Hamas leaders owned a Norwegian Blue Parrot.

//

Then they're pining for the wadis.

25 Amory Blaine  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:53:47pm

At Republican governors' gathering, plenty of blame for Romney

LAS VEGAS — A week's worth of soul-searching among Republicans has yielded no shortage of explanations for the party's failure to win the White House. They point to the Obama campaign's early and aggressive effort to disparage Mitt Romney. They admit Democrats had a superior voter-turnout operation. Some point to Superstorm Sandy, saying it robbed Romney of momentum.

What they won't say is that President Obama won a mandate for his vision, or that the GOP has veered too far right in its outlook.

Yeah. I don't think they're interested in moving to the center.

26 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:54:34pm

re: #23 Killgore Trout

It's interesting to see the web develop and the strategies used to make money

As long as I can still play solitaire for free, oh, and the porn sites, I don't care!!

///

27 freetoken  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:55:12pm

re: #21 Obdicut

No clue what this means.

Sort of like the "training the customer" strategies in other industries.

For example, in jewelry, De Beers and their syndicate have spent a lifetime forming the publics ideas of what jewelry ought to be, what a diamond signifies, what to look for in diamonds, what to expect to pay, etc. They do this through very extensive advertising campaigns that run for many years.

They can (or used to) get away with that because of the near monopoly they have.

Google too is trying to "educate" their customer into what a "search engine" ought to be.

28 Obdicut  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:56:03pm

re: #27 freetoken

Google too is trying to "educate" their customer into what a "search engine" ought to be.

Why do you believe this is true?

29 Amory Blaine  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:56:25pm

re: #25 Amory Blaine

Here's where Jindal admits to the GOP's effort to divide America.

Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, the group's incoming chairman, pointedly criticized Romney for continuing to advance the idea, most recently in a Wednesday conference call with donors, that Obama owed his victory to "gifts" his administration had doled out to key demographic groups.

"We have got to stop dividing the American voters. We need to go after 100% of the votes, not 53%," Jindal said, in a reference to Romney's videotaped comments from earlier in the year that the 47% of Americans who don't pay taxes see themselves as victims. "I think that's absolutely wrong. I don't think that represents where we are as a party and where we are going as a party."

30 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:58:19pm

re: #26 sattv4u2

It's interesting to see the web develop and the strategies used to make money

As long as I can still play solitaire for free, oh, and the porn sites, I don't care!!

///

Cherish the necessities of life.

31 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 2:58:58pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

Cherish the necessities of life.

Well, I won't have Twinkies to fall back on anymore!!

32 freetoken  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:01:25pm

re: #28 Obdicut

Why do you believe this is true?

First, because it has been done by other monopolies.

Secondly, because Google via its initial stock offering, its subsequent expenditures, and large investments, has taken in and sent out quite a bit of money.

I see Google as the new "Madison Avenue". As much of the 20th century the advertising agencies exploited discoveries in psychology that they used to control (or if that is too harsh for you, then "strongly influence") society, so now Google is exploring ideas to influence the flow of information around the world, so that its true clients (those who pay it money, not those who use the search engines) can get the most return for their money.

This is not The Bible Code type of stuff, but is simply the nature of commercial propaganda with which we already live.

33 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:01:31pm

re: #29 Amory Blaine

Here's where Jindal admits to the GOP's effort to divide America.

He's giving Romney a much needed additional smack upside the head for continuing to fail to understand even after getting beaten at the polls.

34 William of Orange  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:02:25pm
35 Amory Blaine  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:04:06pm

re: #34 William of Orange

Ha ha his listeners must equate FOX with a ham radio.

36 Amory Blaine  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:08:35pm

re: #33 Dark_Falcon

He's giving Romney a much needed additional smack upside the head for continuing to fail to understand even after getting beaten at the polls.

They were there blaming Romney for the party's own failed messages. When Romney was talking about the 47%, anyone of them could have been saying it. Which party is calling half the country moochers? It isn't only Romney.

37 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:12:47pm

Wesley College (part the University of Sydney) seems to have a serious problem with women being abused there, including can holders on which was printed "It's not rape if its my birthday." That one ought to go alongside Todd Akin's "legitimate rape" remarks in the Top 10 list of misogynist statements for 2012.

38 A Sockpuppet's Sockpuppet  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:12:54pm

re: #31 sattv4u2

Well, I won't have Twinkies to fall back on anymore!!

Without Twinkies I'm seriously worried about what happens when the zombie apocalypse hits us.

39 Obdicut  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:13:16pm

re: #32 freetoken

I'd suggest you read up on how Google actually operates. It's part of why they're successful-- they obsessively track how users 'naturally' operate in whatever environments they set up. This is the main way that they've captured market share. Internet users are notoriously fickle; Netscape was a brief darling but as soon as it ran into usability trouble, people abandoned it. Likewise, Firefox lost a lot to Chrome. The cost of switching is next to nothing, and so the market is incredibly fluid.

As much of the 20th century the advertising agencies exploited discoveries in psychology that they used to control (or if that is too harsh for you, then "strongly influence") society, so now Google is exploring ideas to influence the flow of information around the world, so that its true clients (those who pay it money, not those who use the search engines) can get the most return for their money

Google doesn't actually have an interest in their clients getting the most return for their money; they have an interest in their clients giving Google the most money for the least return, if you're going to be all ultra-capitalist about it. Especially as a monopoly.

I also don't know what you mean by 'influence the flow of information'.

40 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:13:30pm

ooh, I didn't know about the emotionally troubled twin sister and is that REALLY Petraeus's chest?

How is everyone this Friday Evening?

41 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:14:00pm

re: #38 b_Snark

Without Twinkies I'm seriously worried about what happens when the zombie apocalypse hits us.

Two words

Little
Debbies

Image: little_debbie.gif

42 Amory Blaine  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:14:25pm

re: #38 b_Snark

Without Twinkies I'm seriously worried about what happens when the zombie apocalypse hits us.

Don't be. You're the guy that sacrifices himself for the good of the group. :p

43 OhNoZombies!  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:15:20pm

re: #40 Gretchen G.Tiger

ooh, I didn't know about the emotionally troubled twin sister and is that REALLY Petraeus's chest?

How is everyone this Friday Evening?

Which, to me, is the most important question that needs to be answered.
Cause damn!

44 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:16:46pm

re: #34 William of Orange

No way....

Did Papa Bear say this out loud????

Ya know, when you point the finger at someone, there are three fingers pointing back at YOU.

LOL

45 A Sockpuppet's Sockpuppet  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:16:58pm

re: #42 Amory Blaine

Don't be. You're the guy that sacrifices himself for the good of the group. :p

Don't waste my sacrifice, remember the double tap.

46 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:17:15pm

re: #41 sattv4u2

Two words

Little
Debbies

Image: little_debbie.gif

I heard that today, no more Twinkies --

but I still have Oreos!

Never Fear

47 Flounder  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:17:42pm

re: #45 b_Snark

and don't be a hero!

48 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:18:40pm

re: #46 Gretchen G.Tiger

I heard that today, no more Twinkies --

but I still have Oreos!

Never Fear

I'm just worried about what this means for state fairs

No more Deep Fried Twinkies!!

SACRILEGE!!!!

49 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:19:49pm

re: #44 Gretchen G.Tiger

Ya know, when you point the finger at someone, there are three fingers pointing back at YOU.

LOL

50 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:20:09pm

re: #28 Obdicut

Why do you believe this is true?

Because Google trained him to.

51 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:20:10pm

re: #47 Flounder

and don't be a hero!

Go ahead, be a hero.

You have my permission.

52 researchok  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:20:55pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

This episode will be in the Colbert Hall of Fame.

53 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:21:21pm

Really, I don't understand why everyone is so upset about Twinkies?

THEY HAVE NO CHOCOLATE.

It's the H0-Ho's that will be missed.

54 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:22:19pm

re: #53 Gretchen G.Tiger

Really, I don't understand why everyone is so upset about Twinkies?

THEY HAVE NO CHOCOLATE.

It's the H0-Ho's that will be missed.

Nothing like having two Ho's

wait ,, wha!?!?!?

55 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:22:40pm

Twinkies are the MRE of baked goods.

56 freetoken  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:22:47pm

Speaking of "educating" (ahem) the public, one of my favorite soap boxes is about oil - namely, the institutionalize obfuscation, and just downright lying, about "oil".

There are many dimensions to this "education".

For example, now owned by a local wingnut, the SDUT ran a DRILL BABY DRILL! editorial about how California could be swimming in oil if it just wasn't for those nasty environmentalists:


California should lead oil-shale revolution

[...]

A 2011 federal report on California’s biggest oil shale resource, known as the Monterey Formation, estimated it had at least 15.4 billion barrels of recoverable crude oil. That’s four times bigger than the Bakken formation, where oil drilling has turned North Dakota into an economic dynamo. Our state’s shale resource extends from the eastern edge of Silicon Valley south to Kern County.

[...]

There is so much to write about this but frankly few people care because in general people want to believe what they perceive as good news, and since most everyone thinks lower gasoline prices is "good news", everyone wants to believe that magic happens.

As with the Bakken formation, the Monterey formation is not new knowledge. These type of hydrocarbon "resources" (and that term has a particular definition in the eyes of the financial world) were not profitable to explore because the effort to produce anything from them required an petroleum price higher than the market could bear for much of oil-producing history. Only in the past few years with sustained high prices internationally can companies spend the effort to produce from such formations.

Now the next paragraph in the SDUT editorial:

On Dec. 12, the federal Bureau of Land Management is set to auction off drilling rights to nearly 18,000 acres in Monterey, San Benito and Fresno counties. We hope Gov. Jerry Brown and state regulators talk a calm look at fracking and its long history. Environmentalists’ griping about fracking’s allegedly huge downside only ramped up when new methods proved transformative for oil and gas exploration.

What the editorial ignores totally is the price of the product. When petroleum prices go up so does drilling activity, and when prices go down drilling ceases. Secondly, that bolded sentence is very much a tautology; the editors are acting as if those nasty "environmentalists" only gripe when, well, something actually happens in the environment. Who would have figured?

57 OhNoZombies!  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:22:57pm

I prefer the Ding Dongs myself.

58 Flounder  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:22:59pm

Someone's ear is in danger of having hair brushed over it!

59 Amory Blaine  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:23:01pm

I liked the Suzie Q's.

60 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:23:55pm

re: #59 Amory Blaine

I liked the Suzie Q's.

She always spoke fondly of you also!

61 Flounder  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:24:30pm

Funny bones are my favorite.

62 Obdicut  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:24:40pm
63 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:25:00pm

re: #56 freetoken

Speaking of "educating" (ahem) the public, one of my favorite soap boxes is about oil - namely, the institutionalize obfuscation, and just downright lying, about "oil".

There are many dimensions to this "education".

For example, now owned by a local wingnut, the SDUT ran a DRILL BABY DRILL! editorial about how California could be swimming in oil if it just wasn't for those nasty environmentalists:

California should lead oil-shale revolution

There is so much to write about this but frankly few people care because in general people want to believe what they perceive as good news, and since most everyone thinks lower gasoline prices is "good news", everyone wants to believe that magic happens.

As with the Bakken formation, the Monterey formation is not new knowledge. These type of hydrocarbon "resources" (and that term has a particular definition in the eyes of the financial world) were not profitable to explore because the effort to produce anything from them required an petroleum price higher than the market could bear for much of oil-producing history. Only in the past few years with sustained high prices internationally can companies spend the effort to produce from such formations.

Now the next paragraph in the SDUT editorial:

What the editorial ignores totally is the price of the product. When petroleum prices go up so does drilling activity, and when prices go down drilling ceases. Secondly, that bolded sentence is very much a tautology; the editors are acting as if those nasty "environmentalists" only gripe when, well, something actually happens in the environment. Who would have figured?

The nation with the last oil in the ground wins.

64 freetoken  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:26:02pm

re: #39 Obdicut

I also don't know what you mean by 'influence the flow of information'.

Why does some strange hash-tag trend on twitter?

The bandwagon effect (also with the car-crash factor.)

Controlling the bandwagon is a big deal. Indeed, the last month of the political race this season was almost totally obsessed with controlling the bandwagon (i.e., who was leading in the polls) rather than discuss actual policy issues.

Google has influence over bandwagons.

65 Amory Blaine  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:26:36pm

re: #63 Decatur Deb

The nation with the last oil in the ground wins.

#winning

66 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:26:40pm

re: #63 Decatur Deb

The nation with the last oil in the ground wins.

Notice how Liechtenstein has been very very quiet about their oil!!!!

//

67 Obdicut  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:27:17pm

re: #64 freetoken

Why does some strange hash-tag trend on twitter?

The bandwagon effect (also with the car-crash factor.)

Controlling the bandwagon is a big deal. Indeed, the last month of the political race this season was almost totally obsessed with controlling the bandwagon (i.e., who was leading in the polls) rather than discuss actual policy issues.

Google has influence over bandwagons.

How does Google have influence over bandwagons, please?

Have you ever actually read anything about the way that Google approaches search, by the way?

68 Amory Blaine  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:28:49pm
69 TedStriker  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:29:28pm

re: #53 Gretchen G.Tiger

Really, I don't understand why everyone is so upset about Twinkies?

THEY HAVE NO CHOCOLATE.

It's the H0-Ho's that will be missed.

Just because mismanagement over the years and changing tastes ran Hostess (formerly known as Interstate Brands) into the ground for good (sorry, "free-market" wingnuts...you can't pin the blame on their unions for this) doesn't mean that some of the more popular Hostess marques won't survive.

I'm sure that Grupo Bimbo (Colonial bread, Entenmann's) might snatch some of them up; they've been making a big splash in the American market over the past few years, taking over Sara Lee's bakery operations a while back (they already hold, among other things, the rights to Wonder Bread in Mexico). Flower Foods (Sunbeam, Bunny, and Nature's Own breads, Tastykake, Mrs. Freshley's) and McKee Foods (Little Debbie) are probably gonna want a shot at Hostess' brands and assets as well.

70 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:29:29pm

re: #68 Amory Blaine

[Embedded content]

Chuck, brother of Band

71 jaunte  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:31:34pm

re: #55 Decatur Deb

Twinkies are the MRE of baked goods.

Relax, Twinkies likely to live on

Research company Packaged Facts estimates that snackers buy $125 million of Twinkies a year.

Coming soon: The Trump Twinkie.

72 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:31:37pm

re: #68 Amory Blaine

re: #70 sattv4u2

Chuck, brother of Band

They have a sister named Fire

Pole dancer, i think!

73 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:32:59pm

re: #57 OhNoZombies!

I prefer the Ding Dongs myself.

TMI

:)

74 A Sockpuppet's Sockpuppet  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:35:30pm

re: #56 freetoken

Speaking of "educating" (ahem) the public, one of my favorite soap boxes is about oil - namely, the institutionalize obfuscation, and just downright lying, about "oil".

There are many dimensions to this "education".

For example, now owned by a local wingnut, the SDUT ran a DRILL BABY DRILL! editorial about how California could be swimming in oil if it just wasn't for those nasty environmentalists:

California should lead oil-shale revolution

There is so much to write about this but frankly few people care because in general people want to believe what they perceive as good news, and since most everyone thinks lower gasoline prices is "good news", everyone wants to believe that magic happens.

As with the Bakken formation, the Monterey formation is not new knowledge. These type of hydrocarbon "resources" (and that term has a particular definition in the eyes of the financial world) were not profitable to explore because the effort to produce anything from them required an petroleum price higher than the market could bear for much of oil-producing history. Only in the past few years with sustained high prices internationally can companies spend the effort to produce from such formations.

Now the next paragraph in the SDUT editorial:

What the editorial ignores totally is the price of the product. When petroleum prices go up so does drilling activity, and when prices go down drilling ceases. Secondly, that bolded sentence is very much a tautology; the editors are acting as if those nasty "environmentalists" only gripe when, well, something actually happens in the environment. Who would have figured?

That's exactly right. Here in Sask, we had a healthy oil industry when oil was $30 barrel, but the number of oil wells, especially in our portion of the Bakken fields and the oil sands area around Lloydminster, exploded when oil hit $140 barrel. The political right here has concluded their push for lower taxes is the impetus for the windfall, not the high return on investment high oil (and potash) prices garner.

75 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:37:11pm

re: #69 Ben G. Hazi

Just because mismanagement over the years and changing tastes ran Hostess (formerly known as Interstate Brands) into the ground for good (sorry, "free-market" wingnuts...you can't pin the blame on their unions for this) doesn't mean that some of the more popular Hostess marques won't survive. I'm sure that Grupo Bimbo might snatch some of them up; they've been making a big splash in the American market over the past few years, taking over Sara Lee's bakery operations a while back.

OK, I feel better!

76 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:37:12pm

re: #71 jaunte

Relax, Twinkies likely to live on

Coming soon: The Trump Twinkie.

A baked good vaguely shaped like a dick, now sold by a firm owned by a dick.

77 TedStriker  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:37:26pm

re: #57 OhNoZombies!

I prefer the Ding Dongs myself.

re: #73 Gretchen G.Tiger

TMI

:)

BOW CHICKA WOW WOW

;-P

78 OhNoZombies!  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:37:33pm

re: #73 Gretchen G.Tiger

TMI

:)

LoL!

79 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:37:50pm

By law, the US cannot export oil --correct?

80 TedStriker  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:38:23pm

re: #75 Gretchen G.Tiger

OK, I feel better!

Refresh my post...more info.

81 freetoken  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:38:26pm

re: #67 Obdicut

You mean I can't trust my own lyin' eyes?

Go ahead, google "gold". What's at the top of the list?

When you search for "vitamins", what comes up? At the head of the list? On the side column?

Advertising agencies studied human behavior long before Google researched human activities.

Advertisers were not creating a new human, they simply used the existing human, in all our humanity.

I do believe in the current world that digital businesses, including Google, are more precariously clinging to their business than in the old advertising days. Especially since large segments of the online world are behind controlled interfaces, such as in China, the existence of a global company that depends on moving information through such interfaces, such as Google, is liable to some large crash, or radical change in the future.

82 A Sockpuppet's Sockpuppet  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:40:05pm

re: #79 Gretchen G.Tiger

By law, the US cannot export oil --correct?

Is that why the oil companies want the XL pipeline, so they can refine and export Canadian oil products?

83 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:41:43pm

re: #82 b_Snark

Is that why the oil companies want the XL pipeline, so they can refine and export Canadian oil products?

NO clue.

84 Obdicut  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:42:49pm

re: #81 freetoken

You mean I can't trust my own lyin' eyes?

Go ahead, google "gold". What's at the top of the list?

When you search for "vitamins", what comes up? At the head of the list? On the side column?

Advertisements.

You're not explaining yourself at all. How is google trying to train people to do what, and how is displaying advertisments-- the design and content of which Google doesn't know, it just knows the keywords of it-- supposed to achieve that?

Maybe write a page or something, because I cannot for the life of me follow what you're saying. You started off talking about Google taking away free things-- wasn't that about charging the end user? If not, what does it being free have to do with anything, and why would Google take anything away?

85 Neutral President  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:43:45pm

re: #79 Gretchen G.Tiger

By law, the US cannot export oil --correct?

To my knowledge there is no such law. The US exports 1.92 million barrels a day. (as of 2009 anyway)

86 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:45:20pm

re: #85 Neutral President

To my knowledge there is no such law. The US exports 1.92 million barrels a day. (as of 2009 anyway)

[Link: www.eia.gov...]

87 Obdicut  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:46:01pm

re: #79 Gretchen G.Tiger

By law, the US cannot export oil --correct?

Incorrect.

88 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:50:46pm

re: #85 Neutral President

To my knowledge there is no such law. The US exports 1.92 million barrels a day. (as of 2009 anyway)

right, but is that oil we have produced, or oil we've already bought and are reselling?

89 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:52:19pm

re: #86 sattv4u2

[Link: www.eia.gov...]

ah!

Notes: Crude oil exports are restricted to: (1) crude oil derived from fields under the State waters of Alaska's Cook Inlet; (2) Alaskan North Slope crude oil; (3) certain domestically produced crude oil destined for Canada; (4) shipments to U.S. territories; and (5) California crude oil to Pacific Rim countries. Totals may not equal sum of components due to independent rounding. See Definitions, Sources, and Notes link above for more information on this table.
Release Date: 10/30/2012
Next Release Date: Last Week of November 2012

90 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:53:59pm

re: #89 Gretchen G.Tiger

Thats still a lot of latitude for exporting, especially " California crude to Pacific Rim countries"

91 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:55:12pm

re: #90 sattv4u2

Thats still a lot of latitude for exporting, especially " California crude to Pacific Rim countries"

Yeah, I was listening to something on NPR --today? yesterday?--and the expert said that we could not, by law, export oil.

so, I wonder what, exactly, he meant.

92 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 3:58:06pm

re: #91 Gretchen G.Tiger

Yeah, I was listening to something on NPR --today? yesterday?--and the expert said that we could not, by law, export oil.

so, I wonder what, exactly, he meant.

He meant ,, I dunno
Misinformed ,,, agenda ,,,, citing some law that does exist but has so many loopholes ,,,

I dunno

93 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 4:12:04pm

re: #10 Killgore Trout

Anyone else notice google news really doesn't "sort by date" very well anymore?

Whatever they did, it sucks now. Searches aren't as accurate, options that used to be available are either gone or hard to find, and it sucks.

Stop fixing shit that ain't broke people.

94 compound_Idaho  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 4:12:25pm

re: #55 Decatur Deb

Twinkies are the MRE of baked goods.

And pot just got legalized in Colorado and Washington. Imagine the growth opportunities for Twinkies

95 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 4:13:33pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

I have to admit I lol'ed when he was exchanging soap opera looks with Susan Lucci.

Colbert's expressions are a deadly comedy weapon.

How he does all of what he does with a straight face is beyond me. I think I've seen him break character on his show maybe once because he was riffing on something so hilariously ridiculous that he just put his head down and started giggling (was a couple years ago IIRC.)

96 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 4:16:45pm

re: #94 compound_Idaho

And pot just got legalized in Colorado and Washington. Imagine the growth opportunities for Twinkies

After they're high, just give them Gold N Cremes

They won't know the difference

Image: twinkievw.jpg

97 simoom  Fri, Nov 16, 2012 4:32:45pm

re: #10 Killgore Trout

Anyone else notice google news really doesn't "sort by date" very well anymore?

I think it's more buried in the interface now. If you go to a story and you scroll all the way to the bottom, there should be something like: "See all 18,803 articles »"

Clicking that link should add the old "sort by date" on the left again.


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