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‘Unskewed Polls’ Right Wing Kook Launches ‘BarackOFraudo.com’

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Demented right wing blogger Dean Chambers, who infamously tried to just make up poll numbers during the 2012 election, to the unanimous acceptance of the right wing echo chamber (and subsequent humiliation when their fake “unskewed” polls were shown to be complete frauds), is now trying to bilk some more money out of gullible wingnuts with a website that looks like it was designed by a hyper-active toddler on crack: ‘Unskewed Polls’ Founder Dean Chambers Launches Vote Fraud Website.

The name of the site: “Barack O’Fraudo.”

Dean Chambers, the founder of unskewedpolls.com, launched a new website last week alleging that President Barack Obama did not legitimately carry Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Florida, but instead won those states thanks to voter fraud.

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129 comments

1 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 11:55:02am

Doubling down on fleecing the gullible.

Why would anyone trust what this guy is selling? He was so far wrong that he wasn't even in the ballpark, no wait, sport, no not quite right either - universe (yes, there it is). His methodologies were atrocious (as far as one can figure out his method was simply to believe the numbers he used to be true, all facts and reasoning aside.

Now, he's taking that belief-based nonsense to tackle vote fraud?

Good luck with that. Dean will be laughing all the way to the bank while no vote fraud is actually uncovered. Well, that might not be accurate. He might find a few GOPers who actively sought to commit voter registration fraud, but not anyone who cast a ballot illegally.

2 lockjawcanbefun  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 11:56:14am

I'm so jaded, I just ignore the idiocy of the name Barack O’Fraudo, and am just happy that no racial slur appears to have been used in the name.

3 leftynyc  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 11:56:28am

I guess he figured they'll believe anything since he's fleeced them once already. Hope they send him millions.

4 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 11:57:52am
Black States = States Obama won by voter fraud.

That map couldn't be a bigger dog whistle if it had an embedded audio file.

5 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 11:57:56am

As that wise bunny once said, "What a maroon."

6 Ghost of Tom Joad  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 11:58:14am

Voter fraud? Oh come on, that's just dumb. Everybody knows he won because he showered minorities with gifts and 'free stuff.'//

7 erik_t  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 11:59:17am

re: #1 lawhawk

Why would anyone trust what this guy is selling? He was so far wrong that he wasn't even in the ballpark, no wait, sport, no not quite right either - universe (yes, there it is). His methodologies were atrocious (as far as one can figure out his method was simply to believe the numbers he used to be true, all facts and reasoning aside.

HE ONLY LOOKS SUPER WRONG BECAUSE YOU'RE COMPARING HIS GREAT PREDICTIONS TO FRAUDULENT RESULTS!!1

8 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 11:59:56am

Chambers is right - the wingnut base will believe anything. There's no longer any boundary to the stupidity. Their brains are wired wrong, thanks to years of Rush Limbaugh and Fox News.

9 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:01:35pm

The thing I'm most offended by is the name. “Barack O’Fraudo"? Really? That's the best you could do? His name doesn't even end in an "o" fer fuck's sake.

Republicans can't comedy: it is axiomatic.

10 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:01:37pm
For the entire evening, as the vote totals were coming in, Mitt Romney lead in Virginia and continued to lead up to the point where 97% of the voting divisions were counted in Virginia and Romney held a 50 percent to 49 percent lead, enough of a lead that should have been upheld with only three percent of the votes left to be counted.
When they finished counting the votes in the state, at the last minute the total went to 51.1 percent to 47.4 percent in favor of Obama, after showing a lead of 1-4 percent lead in favor of Romney the entire night. That raises the question, where in the state where those last voters counted from and reported from? The answer to that will probably answer to where the votes came from.

It's really simple, chief.
The last votes tallied were Norfolk City and Fairfax county. Dem strongholds.

11 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:01:58pm

re: #2 lockjawcanbefun

I'm so jaded, I just ignore the idiocy of the name Barack O’Fraudo, and am just happy that no racial slur appears to have been used in the name.

Putting the apostrophe in it makes it look like a slur on the Irish.

12 Obdicut  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:03:21pm

re: #2 lockjawcanbefun

I'm so jaded, I just ignore the idiocy of the name Barack O’Fraudo, and am just happy that no racial slur appears to have been used in the name.

Great login name, dude.

13 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:03:26pm

And in a related story, Democratic pollster Nate Silver was rushed to a doctor after collapsing at his desk. Reportedly, after reading Mr. Chambers bullshit allegations Mr. Silver laughed so long and so hard that he blacked out from oxygen deprivation.

///

14 lostlakehiker  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:03:53pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

That map couldn't be a bigger dog whistle if it had an embedded audio file.

Sorry, but I don't see it. If he had made them white rather than black, could not the same charge be leveled just as well? If green, then charge that the color is meant to suggest those states were bought. If yellow---you see the pattern.

The problem isn't that it's a dog whistle. The problem is that it's just so defiantly stupid. This is in the league of Hitler in his bunker, moving imaginary armies around to come to the relief of Berlin. Deluded and trawling for followers to share the koolaid.

15 Ghost of Tom Joad  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:04:31pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Chambers is right - the wingnut base will believe anything. There's no longer any boundary to the stupidity. Their brains are wired wrong, thanks to years of Rush Limbaugh and Fox News.

It's more than that, I'm afraid.

Their brains are wired wrong., thanks to years of Rush Limbaugh and Fox News.

I think that's more like it. I have a few in my family who don't listen to talk-radio nor watch any wingnutty news, they just believe in stupid shit out of pure hatred and living in a fact-free bubble. The news and talk-radio definitely exacerbates the issue, but they're a symptom, not a cause.

16 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:04:57pm

re: #2 lockjawcanbefun

I'm so jaded, I just ignore the idiocy of the name Barack O’Fraudo, and am just happy that no racial slur appears to have been used in the name.

You could always fall back to the fact that Chambers colors his "Obama fraud" states black, if you were of such a mind.

/// not actually suggesting racism, just implying a question that could be asked.

17 Obdicut  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:05:03pm

re: #14 lostlakehiker

It reminds me a lot of the die-hard partisans who refused to believe that Al Franken had won in Minnesota. Some of these poor, deluded fools still insist that he stole the election.

18 RadicalModerate  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:06:18pm

Repeating what I said in the thread downstairs:

Why did the Republican Governors and Secretaries of State of these states allow this vote fraud to stand?!?

That is, unless Chambers is going to claim that Rick Scott, Bob McDonnell, John Kasich, and Tom Corbett are all RINOS.

19 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:06:42pm

His comments section is full of ED pill spam.
XD

20 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:08:28pm

re: #14 lostlakehiker

Sorry, but I don't see it. If he had made them white rather than black, could not the same charge be leveled just as well? If green, then charge that the color is meant to suggest those states were bought. If yellow---you see the pattern.

The problem isn't that it's a dog whistle. The problem is that it's just so defiantly stupid. This is in the league of Hitler in his bunker, moving imaginary armies around to come to the relief of Berlin. Deluded and trawling for followers to share the koolaid.

I see your point, but the the venom shown by Chambers towards Barack Obama, coupled with the volume of slurs from the far-right directed at him as a black man leads me to conclude it is a 'wink and a nod' to racists.

21 Obdicut  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:12:17pm

re: #20 Dark_Falcon

I see your point, but the the venom shown by Chambers towards Barack Obama, coupled with the volume of slurs from the far-right directed at him as a black man leads me to conclude it is a 'wink and a nod' to racists.

Meh. Mabye. This bit is worse, if you ask me "Such is true of the voting divisions where Obama gets 100 percent of the votes cast. As if anyone REALLY believes that is legitimate."

Those districts were black districts.

I find it really easy to believe that in some places, not a single black person voted for the guy with Donald Trump on his team, the guy who made birther jokes, the guy who said that more than 90% of black people just want handouts and free stuff. I find it really easy.

22 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:12:57pm

Study: Fox News, MSNBC more 'extreme' in final week of campaign
Not really news but the comments are funny.

23 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:13:23pm

I'm utterly astounded that in this bold new century, humans are still capable of building a web site that ugly.

And it was apparently built using Cold Fusion, judging by the .cfm file extensions. People still actually use that?

24 Kragar  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:13:24pm

Lets get our expert to give his opinion of Dean Chambers:

25 Joanne  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:13:42pm

re: #14 lostlakehiker

Completely disagree. Green would have made sense (bought "gifts"), etc. Black states is pure and simple dog whistle. It was the first thing I thought when I saw Black States =....

And just who was it that committed the fraud in those black states?

26 Lidane  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:13:55pm

re: #19 Varek Raith

His comments section is full of ED pill spam.
XD

Sounds like his readers know what's really unskewed. Hahaha.

27 dragonath  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:14:36pm

Barack O'Fraudo? More like Dean A'Dumbass.

28 Achilles Tang  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:15:15pm

This is standard fare over at wingnutdaily where they think there is mind control at play, so nobody notices fraudulent votes by unregistered voters.

Manchurian Candidate stuff. For real.

29 Joanne  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:15:47pm

re: #27 dragonath

Barack O'Fraudo? More like Dean A'Dumbass.

I like Dean Chamberpot.

30 Kragar  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:16:14pm

re: #23 makeitstop

I'm utterly astounded that in this bold new century, humans are still capable of building a web site that ugly.

And it was apparently built using Cold Fusion, judging by the .cfm file extensions. People still actually use that?

Needs more hot pink text on lime green background with 8bit flame gifs on the side, while a midi file of the Imperial March plays on auto loop.

[Link: www.angelfire.com...]

31 Ian G.  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:16:26pm

Why is PA a fraud state but not CO? I mean, CO has people guilty of Voting While Minority too (Chambers' real problem), they just happen to be a different kind of minority than the ones in North Philly.

32 Neutral President  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:17:19pm

re: #23 makeitstop

I'm utterly astounded that in this bold new century, humans are still capable of building a web site that ugly.

And it was apparently built using Cold Fusion, judging by the .cfm file extensions. People still actually use that?

At least it doesn't have animated gifs and flashing text in all caps.

33 RadicalModerate  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:17:36pm

Looks like the Tea Partiers have their first RINO target they are looking to primary in the next election cycle for not being ideologically conservative enough.

...Saxby Chambliss?

34 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:18:16pm

re: #29 Joanne

I like Dean Chamberpot.

Well, he is full of shit.

35 Obdicut  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:18:18pm

re: #33 RadicalModerate

Looks like the Tea Partiers have their first RINO target they are looking to primary in the next election cycle for not being ideologically conservative enough.

...Saxby Chambliss?

They're getting rid of all the Republicans with great names.

36 Lidane  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:18:24pm

re: #28 Achilles Tang

Speaking of WingNutDaily, this is their current screaming headline:

TOP ISRAELI RABBI TWEETS PROPHECY AS MISSILES TARGET HOLY CITY (Google cache link)

37 ThomasLite  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:18:41pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

That map couldn't be a bigger dog whistle if it had an embedded audio file.

Honest question: could you explain how, exactly? I can't for the life of me figure out why.

38 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:18:55pm

re: #19 Varek Raith

His comments section is full of ED pill spam.
XD

And his site diverts to heavy porn, per my comment in last thread. I'd run my hard drive through the dishwasher if I used Windows.

39 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:19:12pm

re: #32 Neutral President

At least it doesn't have animated gifs and flashing text in all caps.

Not yet...

Does the blink tag even still work? A test:

blink

40 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:20:05pm

re: #39 makeitstop

Does the blink tag even still work? A test:

blink

Guess not.

41 lostlakehiker  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:20:09pm

re: #17 Obdicut

It reminds me a lot of the die-hard partisans who refused to believe that Al Franken had won in Minnesota. Some of these poor, deluded fools still insist that he stole the election.

With these states, one voting machine one way or the other would not have made any difference. It is within the realm of possibility, when a few hundred votes are the margin, that something funny happened. Witness how many Democrats remain convinced that Gore "really" won Florida. That's not insanity, because it's inside the realm of the possible.

42 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:20:55pm

re: #37 ThomasLite

Honest question: could you explain how, exactly? I can't for the life of me figure out why.

Coloring states he alleges were fraudulently won black, given that the president is black.

43 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:22:40pm

re: #23 makeitstop

I'm utterly astounded that in this bold new century, humans are still capable of building a web site that ugly.

And it was apparently built using Cold Fusion, judging by the .cfm file extensions. People still actually use that?

To be fair, his target audience is used to ugly sites and might even find it comforting. Have you looked at Freep lately?

44 Ghost of Tom Joad  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:22:52pm

re: #33 RadicalModerate

Looks like the Tea Partiers have their first RINO target they are looking to primary in the next election cycle for not being ideologically conservative enough.

...Saxby Chambliss?

Saxby? WTF? The rate the Teatards are going, they're going to primary out every electable Republican in both houses of Congress. Not that it would be a terrible thing, but there should at least be sane competition on both sides.

46 Kragar  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:24:03pm

ALERT: Don't check the comments section. Massive Pron attack.

47 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:24:27pm

Robert Stacy McCain is giving up all pretense of not being a hateful piece of shit:

48 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:24:34pm

re: #38 Decatur Deb

And his site diverts to heavy porn, per my comment in last thread. I'd run my hard drive through the dishwasher if I used Windows.

Sites like his use my "Paranoid" security settings.
;)

49 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:24:55pm

re: #46 Kragar

ALERT: Don't check the comments section. Massive Pron attack.

4chan.
Always 4chan.

50 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:25:25pm

re: #43 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

To be fair, his target audience is used to ugly sites and might even find it comforting. Have you looked at Freep lately?

I haven't been to that mess in what must be ten years now.

But I know what you mean - JimRob established a ridiculously high standard of ugly from the get-go and has never wavered from it.

51 Ghost of Tom Joad  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:26:10pm

re: #45 Varek Raith

After Cutting Tax Credit For Children, Michigan Republicans Consider One For Fetuses
Derp.

“This is really a backdoor way of passing extreme personhood legislation, which has been rejected by voters in states across the country. Even worse, this would create a special new tax credit for unborn fetuses, after Lansing Republicans eliminated the tax credit for living, breathing children last year.

As they say, pro-birth, anti-life.

52 RadicalModerate  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:26:20pm

re: #35 Obdicut

They're getting rid of all the Republicans with great names.

Great name, maybe but utterly vile as a human being (see Cleland, Max, and Abramoff, Jack)

53 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:26:23pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

Robert Stacy McCain is giving up all pretense of not being a hateful piece of shit:

[Embedded content]

He's a disgusting human being - and I'm not 100% sure about the 'human being' part.

54 dragonath  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:26:40pm

FETUS FOR 2016

55 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:27:03pm

re: #46 Kragar

ALERT: Don't check the comments section. Massive Pron attack.

So is the upper leftmost of his buttons. Might be transitory.

56 Kragar  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:27:08pm

re: #49 Varek Raith

4chan.
Always 4chan.

Yeah, but I don't check 4CHAN from a work computer.

57 Achilles Tang  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:27:50pm

Has anyone else seen this stuff? I am amazed

Cranford, NJ-Everyday in Kentucky, due to a 2008 homeland security law, atheists and agnostics are potentially forced to assert that the public safety of their state is dependent on "Almighty God" or face criminal charges, including up to 12 months in jail.

58 Obdicut  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:28:08pm

re: #41 lostlakehiker

With these states, one voting machine one way or the other would not have made any difference. It is within the realm of possibility, when a few hundred votes are the margin, that something funny happened. Witness how many Democrats remain convinced that Gore "really" won Florida. That's not insanity, because it's inside the realm of the possible.

You're ignoring the fact that the small margin of error led to a meticulous recount. It's one of the most scrutinized elections in recent history, and yet there are still people pathetically clinging to the idea that Franken stole the election.

In Florida, a full recount never happened-- you might remember, there was a Supreme Court case about it?

59 ThomasLite  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:28:33pm

re: #42 Dark_Falcon

Coloring states he alleges were fraudulently won black, given that the president is black.

...Okay. Guess I'm happy to live where that idea is laughable to any part of the political spectrum :S.

re: #47 Charles Johnson

Robert Stacy McCain is giving up all pretense of not being a hateful piece of shit:

[Embedded content]

Oooh, classy. And with such wit.
//need I?

60 dragonath  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:30:11pm

Obama - 252
Romney - 206
Lizard People - 80

61 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:31:50pm

re: #60 dragonath

Obama - 252
Romney - 206
Lizard People - 80

190 to go!

62 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:33:28pm

re: #61 Varek Raith

190 to go!

Bring in more monitor lizards to oversee voting!

Heavily non-lizards precincts can be overseen by dragons with upset tummies.
/ ;)

63 Kragar  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:33:29pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

Robert Stacy McCain is giving up all pretense of not being a hateful piece of shit:

[Embedded content]

A racist, a misogynist, and a homophobe. How charming.

64 Ghost of Tom Joad  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:33:44pm

re: #61 Varek Raith

190 to go!

Ok, now you've done it. Have to start picking people out for cabinet positions, with Charles obviously running for President. Should be interesting.

65 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:34:04pm

re: #57 Achilles Tang

Has anyone else seen this stuff? I am amazed

Lived in Kentucky--I'm not.

66 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:34:06pm

Ehh...they keep jumping on supposed voter fraud only for it to be instantly debunked...then they jump on some other inconsistancy...

Only this could be less possible in a fair election:

Out of 175,554 registered voters, 247,713 vote cards were cast in St. Lucie County, Florida on Tuesday.

Guess who won the county. I won’t bother to give the answer.

St.Lucie had a two card ballot so the machines counted the number of cards not the number of voters, this is explained clearly on their website. It also explains that the actual voter turnout was about 70% of registered voters.So then the question became...

If that is true why aren't there exactly twice as many cards counted as there were total Presidential election votes?

The answer is that the second card was for local amendments and not all the voters filled them out, they only filled out the card dealing with the election races. Blanks were not fed thru the card readers.

None of which really matters because it has already become axiomatic in the wingnut tribe that widespread fraud occurred. At this point it doesn't matter how many of their conspiracies get shot down, it's just not going to change their minds.

67 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:34:30pm

re: #64 Ghost of Tom Joad

Ok, now you've done it. Have to start picking people out for cabinet positions, with Charles obviously running for President. Should be interesting.

I call dibs on Secretary of Blowing the Crap out of Things.

68 erik_t  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:35:30pm

re: #23 makeitstop

And it was apparently built using Cold Fusion, judging by the .cfm file extensions. People still actually use that?

How else could the Romney team solve our energy problems?

69 Kragar  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:36:30pm

re: #67 Varek Raith

I call dibs on Secretary of Blowing the Crap out of Things.

Secretary of Bludgeoning and Mockery

70 Ghost of Tom Joad  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:36:35pm

re: #67 Varek Raith

I call dibs on Secretary of Blowing the Crap out of Things.

Hey, the country always needs a good plumber.

71 CuriousLurker  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:37:17pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

Robert Stacy McCain is giving up all pretense of not being a hateful piece of shit:

[Embedded content]

I suppose that's what passes for sophisticated wit in his circles.

72 aagcobb  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:37:31pm

re: #20 Dark_Falcon

I see your point, but the the venom shown by Chambers towards Barack Obama, coupled with the volume of slurs from the far-right directed at him as a black man leads me to conclude it is a 'wink and a nod' to racists.

I agree. There is no reason to give these people the benefit of the doubt.

73 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:37:47pm

re: #59 ThomasLite

...Okay. Guess I'm happy to live where that idea is laughable to any part of the political spectrum :S.

re: #47 Charles Johnson

Oooh, classy. And with such wit.
//need I?

Me too, TL. I would have called 'laughable' a few years ago and maybe I'm wrong about that one.

But I know I'm right when I say that Dean Champers is utterly wrong and downright mendacious in his claims of voter fraud.

74 Neutral President  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:38:07pm

re: #60 dragonath

Obama - 252
Romney - 206
Lizard People - 80

Image: 7202515462_12029f997b.jpg

75 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:38:56pm

re: #57 Achilles Tang

Has anyone else seen this stuff? I am amazed

I find it strange that Kentucky law asserts alleged divine state guardianship on the basis of a quote from Abraham Lincoln. Consistency is evidently not their forte.

76 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:38:57pm

TPGOP should hire Unskewed Guy to design ORCA II.

77 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:39:29pm

BREAKING: Hamas official says Gaza truce delayed

Egypt-brokered truce deal 'delayed' after Tel Aviv fails to respond to proposal, says Hamas official; No ceasefire expected until Wednesday at earliest

78 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:39:40pm

re: #76 Decatur Deb

TPGOP should hire Unskewed Guy to design ORCA II.

Please! Yes yes yes

79 Lidane  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:40:23pm

Turns out, threatening to charge your customers more is bad for business:

John Metz Denny's Obamacare Surcharge Stirs Big Mess For Restaurant Chain

Don't expect to hear more about an Obamacare surcharge from Denny's franchisee John Metz.

Denny's chief executive John Miller privately reached out to Metz to express his "disappointment" with the Florida franchisee's controversial statements about Obamacare, which sparked a wave of backlash for the national restaurant chain over the past few days. Metz released a statement Monday night expressing "regret" over his statements.

"We recognize his right to speak on issues, but registered our disappointment that his comments have been interpreted as the company’s position," Miller said in an email to The Huffington Post.

Miller is rushing to put out the fire sparked by Metz's controversial proposal to charge restaurant customers a 5 percent Obamacare fee. "Customers have two choices: They can either pay it and tip 15 or 20 percent, or if they really feel so inclined, they can reduce the amount of tip they give to the server," Metz told HuffPost in an interview last week.

Some Denny's franchisees have since dealt with angry customers, calls for a boycott and declining sales. A spokeswoman for Metz said he will not conduct more interviews.

80 Ghost of Tom Joad  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:40:31pm

re: #76 Decatur Deb

TPGOP should hire Unskewed Guy to design ORCA II.

They'd be better off with a shipping container full of magic 8-balls.

81 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:40:47pm

re: #77 Killgore Trout


When all else fails, blame Israel - even as it was Palestinian and Egyptian sources claiming a ceasefire was imminent from the get go. It's yet another propaganda effort.

82 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:41:03pm

re: #63 Kragar

A racist, a misogynist, and a homophobe. How charming.

I don't trust anybody who goes by all three of their names. I'm surprised he doesn't tack an "Esquire" on there, since he's apparently all class.

(The C and the L are silent)

83 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:42:20pm

re: #76 Decatur Deb

TPGOP should hire Unskewed Guy to design ORCA II.

No, I've never liked seeing things done badly. What is needed is for Mr. Chambers to be shown the door. This sort of conspiracy theorist needs to be squashed.

84 Joanne  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:42:35pm

re: #58 Obdicut

You're ignoring the fact that the small margin of error led to a meticulous recount. It's one of the most scrutinized elections in recent history, and yet there are still people pathetically clinging to the idea that Franken stole the election.

In Florida, a full recount never happened-- you might remember, there was a Supreme Court case about it?

I read an article that a recount in FL **was** done and Gore won. This was maybe six months ago that I read the article.

85 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:43:03pm

re: #63 Kragar

A racist, a misogynist, and a homophobe. How charming.

First half of a GOP convention joke?

86 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:43:35pm

re: #83 Dark_Falcon

no, I've never liked seeing things done badly.

Dude, you supported Romney's campaign, home of ORCA I.

87 Lidane  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:43:55pm

re: #76 Decatur Deb

TPGOP should hire Unskewed Guy to design ORCA II.

You mean he didn't design ORCA I?

88 Ghost of Tom Joad  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:43:59pm

re: #85 Decatur Deb

First half of a GOP convention joke?

No, it's a guest list.

89 Obdicut  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:44:05pm

re: #84 Joanne

I read an article that a recount in FL **was** done and Gore won. This was maybe six months ago that I read the article.

One thing I'm sure of is that it really, really doesn't matter now. The Supreme Court case doesn't even set precedent.

90 Kragar  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:44:47pm

Bryan Fischer Believes Exorcisms Can Cure Homosexuality

FISCHER: I think there’s no question that there are spiritual factors at work in this —

PAKMAN: Are they demons?

FISCHER: — that using spiritual weapons of our warfare according to the New Testament can be effective. We know that people can get delivered from homosexual behavior. The former president of the American Psychological Association, Nathan Cummings — he’s seen that happen in his own private clinical practice. He’s seen people get free of homosexual behavior and change their sexual orientation, so it certainly is possible. There may be spiritual factors at work. If there are, then the power of the Gospel, the name of Jesus Christ, the power of the Holy Spirit can be of enormous help.

PAKMAN: And an exorcism might be a way to do that?

FISCHER: Well we believe in the reality of spiritual forces just like Jesus did. [If] you got a problem with demons, David, your problem’s not with me, it’s with Jesus Christ, because he believed in them.

91 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:45:06pm

re: #87 Lidane

You mean he didn't design ORCA I?

Heard the ORCA dev team was a cage of rabid monkeys.

92 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:45:25pm

re: #63 Kragar

A racist, a misogynist, and a homophobe. How charming.

A racist, a misogynist, and a homophobe walk into a bar . . . .

93 Joanne  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:46:00pm

re: #66 watching you tiny alien kittens are

You're not taking into consideration that the RWNJ's have no desire to read anything, let alone the website explaining why there were differences in vote counts.

94 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:46:04pm

re: #92 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

A racist, a misogynist, and a homophobe walk into a bar . . . .

...because it was set so low.

95 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:46:52pm

re: #86 wrenchwench

Dude, you supported Romney's campaign, home of ORCA I.

And they fucked up with ORCA. I had never even heard about the system till I read about it on Politico after the election. I would have said something beforehand had I known. Especially since ORCA was a mistake Mitt Romney should have known better than to make.

96 aagcobb  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:47:12pm

re: #75 Pawn of the Oppressor

I find it strange that Kentucky law asserts alleged divine state guardianship on the basis of a quote from Abraham Lincoln. Consistency is evidently not their forte.

Kentucky was one of the border slave states which did not secede.

97 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:47:41pm

The desire to hate still amazes me.

So many better ways to spend one's energy.

98 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:48:03pm

re: #95 Dark_Falcon

And they fucked up with ORCA. I had never even heard about the system till I read about it on Politico after the election. I would have said something beforehand had I known. Especially since ORCA was a mistake Mitt Romney should have known better than to make.

What about hiring Kris Kobach? Was that a mistake?

76% of voting Hispanics think it was.

99 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:48:32pm

re: #96 aagcobb

Kentucky was one of the border slave states which did not secede.

Because the governor fled the state to avoid signing the articles, per my Kentuck wife.

100 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:48:37pm

re: #82 Pawn of the Oppressor

I don't trust anybody who goes by all three of their names. I'm surprised he doesn't tack an "Esquire" on there, since he's apparently all class.

(The C and the L are silent)

He doesn't matter. He has a long disgusting history.
He has been weighted, judged and found wanting.

101 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:48:43pm

re: #79 Lidane

Turns out, threatening to charge your customers more is bad for business:

John Metz Denny's Obamacare Surcharge Stirs Big Mess For Restaurant Chain

A spokeswoman for Metz said he will not conduct more interviews.

Smartest decision Metz has made so far. Assuming that he made it.

102 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:49:10pm

re: #94 wrenchwench

...because it was set so low.

Nice misdirection.

103 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:49:12pm

re: #96 aagcobb

Kentucky was one of the border slave states which did not secede.

Cassius Clay --the anti-slavery crusader, was from Kentucky.

104 Kragar  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:49:33pm

Woman busted for driving 100 mph was ‘letting the Lord spirit guide me’

A woman in Florida says that God told her to drive 100 mph in a 30-mph zone while blowing her horn at 1 a.m on Tuesday morning.

Officers in Fort Pierce observed 41-year-old Melissa Miller driving a silver Toyota south on U.S. 1 with her arm out the window and blowing her horn for 10 seconds, according to a police report obtained by WPTV. The car allegedly increased speed before later coming to a stop on Virginia Avenue.

Miller told officers that she was driving so fast “because I was letting the Lord spirit guide me,” the report said. The woman also insisted that the excessive horn blowing was due to “the Lord telling me to do it.”

105 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:49:43pm

re: #81 lawhawk

When all else fails, blame Israel - even as it was Palestinian and Egyptian sources claiming a ceasefire was imminent from the get go. It's yet another propaganda effort.

Maybe but Hamas is almost out of rockets and it looks like the Israelis are clearing up their target list this afternoon

I don't think the Israelis are interested in an invasion but they might as well do some house cleaning before agreeing to a truce.

106 aagcobb  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:49:46pm

re: #89 Obdicut

One thing I'm sure of is that it really, really doesn't matter now. The Supreme Court case doesn't even set precedent.

Ironically, Bush v. Gore has been cited recently by the 6th Circuit in regards to Ohio's attempt to block african-americans from voting early (by allowing only the military to vote early).

107 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:49:47pm

re: #75 Pawn of the Oppressor

I find it strange that Kentucky law asserts alleged divine state guardianship on the basis of a quote from Abraham Lincoln. Consistency is evidently not their forte.

Abe Lincoln was born in Kentucky.

108 dragonath  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:49:57pm

re: #98 wrenchwench

Kris Kobach- Immigration Advisor
Robert Bork - Judicial Advisor
John Bolton - Foreign Affairs Advisor

Yeah, we dodged a bullet.

109 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:51:38pm

re: #107 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Abe Lincoln was born in Kentucky.

And Jefferson Davis.

110 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:51:52pm

re: #94 wrenchwench

...because it was set so low.

A joke I made up myself, when my daughter was taking ballet lessons:

A very short ballerina walks into a barre . . .

111 aagcobb  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:51:56pm

re: #99 Decatur Deb

Because the governor fled the state to avoid signing the articles, per my Kentuck wife.

Folks in Appalachia were very pro-union in Kentucky, West Virginia and even Tennessee.

112 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:52:39pm

re: #111 aagcobb

Folks in Appalachia were very pro-union in Kentucky, West Virginia and even Tennessee.

Even Mississippi--"State of Jones".

113 Lidane  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 1:01:06pm
114 lostlakehiker  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 1:02:23pm

re: #99 Decatur Deb

Because the governor fled the state to avoid signing the articles, per my Kentuck wife.

Whatever it takes. All your border states had internal divisions on the question. In Virginia, these were so intense that western Virginia seceded from the secession and went over to the Union. In Maryland, both sides raised regiments. In Tennessee, there were pro-union counties that raised volunteers for the North. In Missouri, they had their own private civil war within the main one. But if you pan out and look at the big picture, KY went for the North.

Lincoln scored a victory of immense and little-appreciated scope by playing his cards right on the Kentucky question. The Confederacy, always full of vainglorious dreams and false hopes, invaded. Kentucky did not rally to the Reb flag. Go figure.

Wars are not just questions of lead and steel. Statecraft matters.

115 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 1:08:55pm

Wife and friend are going to the Reform temple tonight for an ecumenical service. I'd go, but doubt they have an Agnostic hymnal.

116 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 1:13:36pm

re: #115 Decatur Deb

Wife and friend are going to the Reform temple tonight for an ecumenical service. I'd go, but doubt they have an Agnostic hymnal.

Just sing "Joy to the World" for all songs and processions. Sometimes I throw in a little "Sympathy for the Devil" just for giggles.

117 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 1:15:25pm

re: #116 Eventual Carrion

Just sing "Joy to the World" for all songs and processions. Sometimes I throw in a little "Sympathy for the Devil" just for giggles.

When I'm asked to 'sign' the trusses of a Habitat house with a bible verse, I usually give them a few lines of Pink Floyd.

118 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 1:25:35pm

re: #101 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Smartest decision Metz has made so far. Assuming that he made it.

I'm thinking Denny's stepped on him hard and told him to STFU and STFD.

119 Lidane  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 1:25:47pm
120 TedStriker  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 1:26:23pm

re: #79 Lidane

Turns out, threatening to charge your customers more is bad for business:

John Metz Denny's Obamacare Surcharge Stirs Big Mess For Restaurant Chain

Metz, you're a POS.

121 GunstarGreen  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 1:33:01pm

re: #118 makeitstop

I'm thinking Denny's stepped on him hard and told him to STFU and STFD.

If Denny's actually gave a shit they'd have pulled his franchise. It would seem that they have not. Draw your own conclusions.

122 TedStriker  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 1:34:09pm

re: #121 GunstarGreen

If Denny's actually gave a shit they'd have pulled his franchise. It would seem that they have not. Draw your own conclusions.

We're talking about a chain that has had big problems with racial discrimination in the past, among other things.

123 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 1:35:03pm

re: #121 GunstarGreen

If Denny's actually gave a shit they'd have pulled his franchise. It would seem that they have not. Draw your own conclusions.

Denny's doesn't really have a good track record with race relations. They got hammered in the 90's for some stuff they were allegedly doing discriminating against minorities.

124 GunstarGreen  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 1:38:03pm

re: #122 Ben G. Hazi

re: #123 Eventual Carrion

My point exactly. Denny's corporate saying "We're disappointed in this dude" represents the absolute bare minimum of PR damage control. Being employed by a large franchise corporate HQ myself, I can confidently say that if one of our franchisees had kicked one of our brands in the nuts as hard as Metz did, they'd be getting "Take down your badging and surrender your equipment" notices the next day.

125 Lidane  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 1:44:31pm

Speaking of bad polls:

126 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 2:20:34pm

re: #9 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society

The thing I'm most offended by is the name. “Barack O’Fraudo"? Really? That's the best you could do? His name doesn't even end in an "o" fer fuck's sake.

Republicans can't comedy: it is axiomatic.

Humour is a danger to Truth™.

127 Mentis Fugit  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 2:26:00pm

re: #92 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

A racist, a misogynist, and a homophobe walk into a bar . . . .

The barman says, "Hi, Senator."

128 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 2:32:03pm

re: #76 Decatur Deb

TPGOP should hire Unskewed Unhinged Guy to design ORCA II.

FTFY.

129 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Nov 20, 2012 2:44:56pm

re: #123 Eventual Carrion

Denny's doesn't really have a good track record with race relations. They got hammered in the 90's for some stuff they were allegedly doing discriminating against minorities.

My wife saw that at a Denny's in Georgia.

She was behind two black couples. They tried to seat her first. She told them "Not before you seat the people in front of me."

The waitress did so, but very grudgingly. Gave my wife a dirty look.

Then they ignored the black couples and tried to take my wife's order first. She told them, "Not before you take their orders." Again, dirty looks and dragging ass.

The black couples's meals arrived half an hour after my wife's did.

When she went to pay she complained to the manager and his attitude was "Why do you even give a shit?"

She's never been back.


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