Did God Troll Pat Robertson?

U mad bro?
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Back in January we had a post about Pat Robertson’s announcement that God had revealed to him who the next President of the US would be, broadly hinting around that The Man Upstairs was definitely not fond of Barack Obama. Robertson’s Christian Broadcasting Network went on to confidently predict a Romney landslide in the 2012 election.

Oops.

Today Robertson excused his absurdly wrong predictions by saying he missed God’s message, even though it sure seemed at the time like he was hearing the voice of the Almighty.

He doesn’t seem to have considered the possibility that God was just messing with him. Because He could.

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159 comments
1 darthstar  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 1:35:48pm

Well, he's right...sort of. The NEXT president won't be Barack Obama. But that won't happen until 2016, so I rate that as "mostly true"...

/politifact

2 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 1:36:15pm

God talks to us individually. There are only a blessed few through whom God talks to others, and it is the height of hubris and self-aggrandizement to think yourself one.

3 ReamWorks SKG  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 1:36:38pm

I think he's just listening to the wrong g-d!

4 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 1:42:52pm
He doesn’t seem to have considered the possibility that God was just messing with him.

Or that God doesn't care what he thinks!

5 darthstar  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 1:44:52pm
6 darthstar  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 1:46:11pm

re: #5 darthstar

This is almost as exciting as my political future!
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7 Targetpractice  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 1:46:39pm

Remember God also told half the GOP primary field that they could be president.

Anybody wanna check if perhaps they've been listening to Loki by mistake?

8 mikec6666  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 1:46:48pm

He should have talked to Muslim Jesus not Christian Jesus. Then he would have got the right answer. Er, I may be mixing up my mythology here...

9 Charles Johnson  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 1:47:19pm

I know, I'm blaspheming again, but if I were God I'd find it almost impossible not to troll people like Robertson.

10 darthstar  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 1:49:59pm

re: #7 Targetpractice

Remember God also told half the GOP primary field that they could be president.

Anybody wanna check if perhaps they've been listening to Loki by mistake?

I saw The Avengers on the plane home from Mexico last night...fun film. My favorite part was where Hulk and Thor defeat a space centipede and then Hulk cold-cocks Thor just for the fuck of it. Gave me more respect for Hulk...that and Dr. Banner's comment, "Don't you know my secret? I'm always angry."

11 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 1:51:46pm

re: #7 Targetpractice

Remember God also told half the GOP primary field that they could be president.

Anybody wanna check if perhaps they've been listening to Loki by mistake?

Probably some prankster. Reminds me of that one Funny or Die skit with all the celebrities and Kevin Spacey trolls them by pretending to be Bill Clinton. And then the real Bill comes in where Kevin is and tells him "What did I tell you about making prank phone calls, Kevin" "Not to make them." "Not to make them without me."

12 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 1:52:09pm

Pat: That voice in your head isn't who you think it is

13 ReamWorks SKG  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 2:01:14pm

re: #8 mikec6666

No, you're right! They have a Jesus, too. They recognize him as a prophet.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

14 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 2:06:06pm

We all know that the only person God tips off on election results is Nate Silver

15 darthstar  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 2:11:03pm

Sometimes god talks to me...usually he's just telling me to smile, smile, smile...

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16 darthstar  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 2:16:00pm

The secret to a good turkey is lots of herbs.
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17 KingKenrod  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 2:18:09pm

Robertson's many failed predictions must be discouraging for his followers. I wonder if he ever thought maybe he should just STFU before more damage is done?

18 Bulworth  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 2:19:58pm

These televangelical folks are just like neocon pundits--there's no such thing as accountability. They can be as wrong as you can be about Obama's America 2012 and then go ahead and "predict" the exact same crap for Obama's America 2016. And their fanbase, who they keep hitting up for more dough, will continue to send the checks, or rather, continue making their credit card donations. And they'll continue in debt and it will all be PBO's fault.

19 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 2:20:09pm

re: #17 KingKenrod

Robertson's many failed predictions must be discouraging for his followers. I wonder if he ever thought maybe he should just STFU before more damage is done?

only if god tells him to...

20 Kragar  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 2:22:17pm

Pat Robertson proves the existence of Loki.

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21 Bulworth  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 2:23:14pm
Robertson's many failed predictions must be discouraging for his followers.

Nah. They know in their heart of hearts that Romney would have won if only there wasn't massive voter fraud and only if Christie hadn't been nice to PBO after Sandy and only if more of them good Christians had voted. /

22 Bulworth  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 2:25:39pm

Obviously God's Own Party candidate would have won if all the true Christians had only sent more money to Pat. /

23 Amory Blaine  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 2:26:54pm
Youtube Video
24 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 2:27:26pm

re: #16 darthstar

Careful dude, or else Sonicwall firewalls will block me.
(JK, but that damn hard firewall even stopped the boss from shopping for an airsoft gun for his teen son)

25 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 2:27:56pm

2012 can't be over fast enough. What a year..I won't be making it home for the Holidays until Christmas. The plan is for me to get carry out from a fancy seafood place and sit at home and eat, drink and watch football with Winston.
I wish you all the most special time with family and loved ones.
Happy Holidays Lizards!

26 researchok  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 2:31:24pm

re: #25 A Man for all Seasons

Don't forget the beer.

27 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 2:39:07pm

Hey Wrenchwench,

Is this the incident you were talking about?

28 Bulworth  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 2:39:13pm

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

29 ThomasLite  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 2:41:57pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

I know, I'm blaspheming again, but if I were God I'd find it almost impossible not to troll people like Robertson.

I thought you were an agnostic? can those even blaspheme (or was I just mistaken?) :)

30 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 2:45:12pm

No holiday here in Germany, we will be celebrating on Saturday.

31 Kragar  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 2:46:38pm

re: #29 ThomasLite

I thought you were an agnostic? can those even blaspheme (or was I just mistaken?) :)

Blasphemy is any irreverent statement about a religion. Heresy is when a believer goes against traditional religious beliefs.

32 ThomasLite  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 2:50:06pm

re: #31 Kragar

Blasphemy is any irreverent statement about a religion. Heresy is when a believer goes against traditional religious beliefs.

...oops?

33 researchok  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 2:51:20pm

re: #30 Sol Berdinowitz

I see schnitzel and assorted wurst in your future.

34 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 2:53:33pm

The only Presidential pardons this year so far are the two turkeys.

35 makeitstop  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 2:56:50pm

The Stones haven't sounded this good in years. Jagger sounds like a pup on this record.

(Slightly NSFW - brief flashes of unclothed female anatomy)

Youtube Video
36 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 2:59:48pm

re: #30 Sol Berdinowitz

No holiday here in Germany, we will be celebrating on Saturday.

We got access to proper halal Butterball turkeys from the American PX in Wiesbaden and all the trimmings. Jut no day off on Thursday to do it proper.

37 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:01:15pm

re: #34 Varek Raith

The only Presidential pardons this year so far are the two turkeys.

Why do Ron Paul and Rosie O'Donnell need a pardon???

38 Kragar  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:02:00pm

re: #36 Sol Berdinowitz

We got access to proper halal Butterball turkeys from the American PX in Wiesbaden and all the trimmings. Jut no day off on Thursday to do it proper.

California had a shortage of butterballs over 15lbs when we went to the store sunday. Had to pick up another brand, but they mostly had 17lbers. We lucked out and the butcher saw us and called us back to give us a 20lb one.

39 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:04:47pm

re: #37 sattv4u2

Why do Ron Paul and Rosie O'Donnell need a pardon???

Your jokes do as well.
:P

40 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:05:24pm

Danica Patrick divorcing husband after 7 years
[Link: sports.yahoo.com...]

Dear Danica

I'm tanned, rested and ready!!!

41 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:05:36pm

re: #39 Varek Raith

Your jokes do as well.
:P

ouch!

42 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:06:09pm

Got my turkey legs soaking in Alton Brown's Turkey brine. Any excuse to use allspice.
Tomorrow I'll give them a dry rub and throw them on the grill.

43 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:06:51pm

re: #42 Killgore Trout

Got my turkey legs soaking in Alton Brown's Turkey brine. Any excuse to use allspice.
Tomorrow I'll give them a dry rub and throw them on the grill.

You have turkey legs?
/Channeling Sat

44 makeitstop  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:07:05pm

re: #42 Killgore Trout

Got my turkey legs soaking in Alton Brown's Turkey brine. Any excuse to use allspice.
Tomorrow I'll give them a dry rub and throw them on the grill.

I have chicken legs. That's why I never wear shorts.

45 Kragar  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:07:56pm

re: #42 Killgore Trout

Got my turkey legs soaking in Alton Brown's Turkey brine. Any excuse to use allspice.
Tomorrow I'll give them a dry rub and throw them on the grill.

We go with the traditional roast turkey. Cover it with cheesecloth. user butter and chicken broth to baste it, with a little poultry seasoning.

46 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:08:18pm

re: #43 Varek Raith

You have turkey legs?
/Channeling Sat

Thats why he never wears Bermuda shorts

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(nsfw)

47 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:09:34pm

re: #40 sattv4u2

Danica Patrick divorcing husband after 7 years
[Link: sports.yahoo.com...]

Dear Danica

I'm tanned, rested and ready!!!

I'm sorry to hear the news. They always seemed like a happy couple.

48 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:09:34pm

re: #46 sattv4u2

Thats why he never wears Bermuda shorts

Image: 973.jpg

(nsfw)

I find that offensive!
Wearing shorts with flowers on them...
*Shakes head*

49 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:09:34pm

re: #40 sattv4u2

Danica Patrick divorcing husband after 7 years
[Link: sports.yahoo.com...]

Dear Danica

I'm tanned, rested and ready!!!

Careful with those fast women....

50 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:12:10pm

Greetings from Tennessee!

I'm starving. I can't wait for the turkey!

51 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:12:33pm

Today Robertson excused his absurdly wrong predictions by saying he missed God’s message

pat robertson is fallible????

OMG OMG OMG!!!

52 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:12:53pm

Robertson:

I thought the Lord said, "It's going to be Romney." Turns out he said, "You should have some more hominy."

53 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:13:23pm

re: #50 NJDhockeyfan

Greetings from Tennessee!

I'm starving. I can't wait for the turkey!

look in the mirror !!
//

54 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:13:44pm

I've been playing with Google Earth and can't figure out how to go underwater to see the fish. Does it work on an iPad?

55 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:13:53pm

all this working for a living is seriously impacting my sitting around and idlely shooting the shit on the blog

56 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:14:06pm

re: #49 Political Atheist

Careful with those fast women....

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57 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:14:11pm

re: #51 engineer cat

Today Robertson excused his absurdly wrong predictions by saying he missed God’s message

pat robertson is fallible????

OMG OMG OMG!!!

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58 ReamWorks SKG  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:14:49pm

NY Times is reporting that "at least 5 missiles" have been launched since the cease-fire.

Even in the minutes leading up to the effective start time, the antagonists were firing at each other, and the Israeli authorities reported at least five Palestinian rockets were lobbed into southern Israel shortly after the cease-fire had begun. But no damage or injuries were reported and the rocket fire seemed to end in the second hour. In Gaza, thousands of residents came outside to celebrate.

59 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:15:13pm

re: #58 ReamWorks SKG

NY Times is reporting that "at least 5 missiles" have been launched since the cease-fire.

So,, back to a 'normal' day !!!

{sigh}

60 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:16:49pm

re: #55 engineer cat

all this working for a living is seriously impacting my sitting around and idlely shooting the shit on the blog

I've learned how to multi-task

61 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:16:51pm

re: #27 goddamnedfrank

Yep. The guy who wrote that was taking pictures of the downtown Christmas decorations being put up, and somebody said to him, "Hey buddy, there's a real story over on the next block."

62 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:16:56pm

re: #52 wrenchwench

Robertson:

Hey I was sure God said "wrong nominee".

63 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:17:32pm

re: #54 NJDhockeyfan

I've been playing with Google Earth and can't figure out how to go underwater to see the fish. Does it work on an iPad?

You have to practice 1st by sticking your head in a toilet bowl for extended periods of time

64 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:19:06pm

re: #63 sattv4u2

You have to practice 1st by sticking your head in a toilet bowl for extended periods of time

((don't even ask me how I know this))

65 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:21:29pm

re: #27 goddamnedfrank

Hey Wrenchwench,

Is this the incident you were talking about?

That is just an epic negligent FAIL. What a shame.

66 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:22:34pm

re: #63 sattv4u2

You have to practice 1st by sticking your head in a toilet bowl for extended periods of time

The fish in there look very different than the ones in my fish tank.

67 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:24:58pm

re: #58 ReamWorks SKG

NY Times is reporting that "at least 5 missiles" have been launched since the cease-fire.

Good old Palestinian cease fire. Even during peaceful periods they average between 1-3 missile or mortar attacks per day. Nobody really expects them to actually stop the attacks, just slow down to normal. Israelis are the only ones who have to actually abide by the literal cease fire thing.

68 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:26:54pm

re: #67 Killgore Trout

Good old Palestinian cease fire. Even during peaceful periods they average between 1-3 missile or mortar attacks per day. Nobody really expects them to actually stop the attacks, just slow down to normal. Israelis are the only ones who have to actually abide by the literal cease fire thing.

well, they DID get candy!!
/

69 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:28:44pm

Wondering when your relatives plane is going to arrive??

Keep wondering!!!

FAA's online flight delay tracker takes a dive

Read more: [Link: www.politico.com...]

70 Mentis Fugit  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:29:54pm

re: #33 researchok

I see schnitzel and assorted wurst in your future.

The schnitzel may have arrived, but the wurst is yet to come.

71 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:31:13pm

re: #70 Bentis Fughazi

The schnitzel may have arrived, but the wurst is yet to come.

10 yard penalty.

72 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:38:35pm

re: #70 Bentis Fughazi

The schnitzel may have arrived, but the wurst is yet to come.

isn't that spaetzle

73 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:39:44pm

A Year in Jail for Not Believing in God? How Kentucky Is Persecuting Atheists

Yes, we have a big problem in this country.

How is everyone?

75 dragonath  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:41:27pm

The ‘Kids’ Behind IDF’s Media

Eh, I'm not feeling so sanguine about this "new" kind of war.

76 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:43:07pm

Jesse Jackson Jr finally resigned?

Is it the end of a dynasty?

77 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:48:05pm

re: #73 Gretchen G.Tiger

A Year in Jail for Not Believing in God? How Kentucky Is Persecuting Atheists

believers can call down the wrath of god on us atheists, but all we have to retaliate with are vague musings about meaninglessness

78 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:49:19pm

re: #76 Gretchen G.Tiger

Jesse Jackson Jr finally resigned?

Is it the end of a dynasty?

probably not

After some time passes, he'll most likely go to work at his fathers Rainbow/ Push coalition and be groomed to take the top spot once his father retires

79 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:49:48pm

re: #77 engineer cat

believers can call down the wrath of god on us atheists, but all we have to retaliate with are vague musings about meaninglessness

Not really. Not needing faith in a sky-god is a scary thing to the insecure.

80 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:50:21pm

re: #76 Gretchen G.Tiger

re: #78 sattv4u2

probably not

After some time passes, he'll most likely go to work at his fathers Rainbow/ Push coalition and be groomed to take the top spot once his father retires

And as has been seen in the past with politicians from all sides, again, after time passes this won;t preclude him from running for office again

81 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:50:46pm

re: #78 sattv4u2

probably not

After some time passes, he'll most likely go to work at his fathers Rainbow/ Push coalition and be groomed to take the top spot once his father retires

I'd love to see him do some real work done in mental illness awareness. Especially for Men and Minorities, there is still a lot of work to do.

I give him a lot fo credit for acknowleding his battle.

82 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:51:09pm

re: #20 Kragar

Pat Robertson proves the existence of Loki.

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Please no. The Avengers deserve to have Thanksgiving off and not have to deal with that loon again.

/I know, I know...

83 darthstar  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:51:28pm

Papa John's CEO forced to eat some of his shitty pie.

Many in the media reported that I said Papa John’s is going to close stores and cut jobs because of Obamacare,” he wrote in a blog post. “I never said that. The fact is we are going to open over hundreds of stores this year and next and increase employment by over 5,000 jobs worldwide. And, we have no plans to cut team hours as a result of the Affordable Care Act.”

A big drop in business tends to make people see the folly of their ways.

84 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:53:26pm

re: #75 dragonath

The ‘Kids’ Behind IDF’s Media

Eh, I'm not feeling so sanguine about this "new" kind of war.

It's a good thing. If the terrorists use social media to get their message out, then those whose wish to fight them must do likewise.

85 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:54:52pm

I went shopping today and asked the checkout clerk "Do you have to work tomorrow?" She made a face and said yes, she had to work.

I said, "But you're getting overtime pay, aren't you?"

She said she was getting time and a half.

I didn't ask if she was given a choice to have the day off, or now. But time and a half is still better than Walmart.

87 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:56:39pm

re: #85 Vicious Babushka

I went shopping today and asked the checkout clerk "Do you have to work tomorrow?" She made a face and said yes, she had to work.

I said, "But you're getting overtime pay, aren't you?"

She said she was getting time and a half.

I didn't ask if she was given a choice to have the day off, or now. But time and a half is still better than Walmart.

Working retail suck for the holidays. At least she's getting overtime pay. Many people don't even get that.

88 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:57:23pm

re: #85 Vicious Babushka

I went shopping today and asked the checkout clerk "Do you have to work tomorrow?" She made a face and said yes, she had to work.

I said, "But you're getting overtime pay, aren't you?"

She said she was getting time and a half.

I didn't ask if she was given a choice to have the day off, or now. But time and a half is still better than Walmart.

Most retail don't get a choice. Sometimes it's up to the scheduling manager. My last job, we had to choose 2 of the three holiday's and eve's, xmas, thanksgiving and new years. The manager would announce when she would post the sign-up sheet and if you didn't get there in time, you got what what you got.

89 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:57:25pm

re: #85 Vicious Babushka

:(

You didn't ask me if I had to work tomorrow, and the answer is , YES,,
05:00-11:00 and I'm "on call" for the rest of the day!!!

90 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:58:11pm

I never mindd working the holiday regardless of over-time pay or not. Less forced-family-boredom to deal with.

91 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 3:59:15pm

re: #90 Gretchen G.Tiger

I never mindd working the holiday regardless of over-time pay or not. Less forced-family-boredom to deal with.

I've never worked at a place that was open on Thanksgiving or Christmas. I've often worked on New Years, though.

92 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:00:15pm

What really pisses-me-off are the Jesus freaks who refuse to respect other forms of faith.

You either "Praise his name" or you are a G-d-less athiest.

I have deep faith, and am really insulted by those who insist I don't because I'm not lock-step with their Santa Claus Religion.

93 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:01:22pm

re: #88 Gretchen G.Tiger

Most retail don't get a choice. Sometimes it's up to the scheduling manager. My last job, we had to choose 2 of the three holiday's and eve's, xmas, thanksgiving and new years. The manager would announce when she would post the sign-up sheet and if you didn't get there in time, you got what what you got.

since i've worked for this company (just shy of 15 years now) I've always worked three out of the five (Thanksgiving, Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, New Years Eve, New Years Day) and never an "eve" and "day" combined (always one or the other)

94 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:02:42pm

re: #88 Gretchen G.Tiger

re: #93 sattv4u2

since i've worked for this company (just shy of 15 years now) I've always worked three out of the five (Thanksgiving, Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, New Years Eve, New Years Day) and never an "eve" and "day" combined (always one or the other)

not to mention most, if not all, Monday holidays AND 4th of July

95 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:02:47pm

re: #87 Killgore Trout

Working retail suck for the holidays. At least she's getting overtime pay. Many people don't even get that.

I looked for the greeter guy that I always chat with whenever I go into that store. He wasn't there. I sure as hell hope he got the fucking DAY OFF and wasn't, um, terminated.

96 dragonath  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:02:57pm

re: #84 Dark_Falcon

I just don't see it solving anything that a free and open press already should. Sniping with terrorists on the twitters is hardly an auspicious start.

97 miclaine  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:03:27pm

re: #15 darthstar

Who is that guy with Jerry?

98 darthstar  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:03:41pm

I just got back from five days in Mexico. Worked today until about 2pm, and am off until Monday...tough week.

99 darthstar  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:03:58pm

re: #97 miclaine

Who is that guy with Jerry?

Ken Kesey.

100 Four More Tears  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:05:20pm

re: #93 sattv4u2

since i've worked for this company (just shy of 15 years now) I've always worked three out of the five (Thanksgiving, Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, New Years Eve, New Years Day) and never an "eve" and "day" combined (always one or the other)

Pretty sure you're making more than $10 an hour...

101 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:05:42pm

re: #100 Four More Tears

Pretty sure you're making more than $10 an hour...

I am, but no extra for holidays

Salaried

102 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:06:19pm

re: #100 Four More Tears

re: #101 sattv4u2

I am, but no extra for holidays

Salaried

and i'm pretty sure I have to put in more than 40 hours a week

103 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:06:45pm

re: #96 dragonath

I just don't see it solving anything that a free and open press already should. Sniping with terrorists on the twitters is hardly an auspicious start.

It reaches people who get most of their information on social media, which is a good number of young people. It also gets Israel's story better distributed so that Hamas' lies don't get wider circulation than the truth, so far as can be helped.

You got to remember that people these days are often in information bubbles of their own design. Israel is just figuring out hoe to get into those bubbles.

104 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:08:03pm

re: #100 Four More Tears

Sorry. I thought we were talking about having to work on holidays, not how much we make for working on holidays

105 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:09:18pm

re: #92 Gretchen G.Tiger

What really pisses-me-off are the Jesus freaks who refuse to respect other forms of faith.

You either "Praise his name" or you are a G-d-less athiest.

I have deep faith, and am really insulted by those who insist I don't because I'm not lock-step with their Santa Claus Religion.

Hey, if they're looking for a godless atheist, send them my way. I'll learn 'em.

106 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:10:00pm

re: #93 sattv4u2

since i've worked for this company (just shy of 15 years now) I've always worked three out of the five (Thanksgiving, Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, New Years Eve, New Years Day) and never an "eve" and "day" combined (always one or the other)

ya when i worked as a restaurant cook i used to work all the holidays

the upside was i would be off on like mondays and wednesdays and it was easier to do chores since gummint offices & suchlike would be open

107 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:10:24pm

re: #93 sattv4u2

since i've worked for this company (just shy of 15 years now) I've always worked three out of the five (Thanksgiving, Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, New Years Eve, New Years Day) and never an "eve" and "day" combined (always one or the other)

You work?

108 CuriousLurker  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:10:41pm

Pat Robertson doesn't have a frigging clue. If the anecdotal evidence I've been hearing locally is any indication of how minorities are feeling nationally, the GOP needs to wake up and smell the café con leche in a serious way and be very sincere in anything they say.

Pre-election trip to medical office: This was a mixed group of black & hispanic people, both patients & employees of the place. None of them struck me as particularly high-info voters, but the GOP's racist dog whistling was not lost on a single one of them. To a man/woman they all intended to vote and vote Dem because of it. True NJ is a blue state, I'm just saying that if low-info voters are paying attention here, they're probably doing so elsewhere as well.

Doctor's office today: This was a group of elderly black ladies chatting behind me. I've lived in poor black neighborhoods twice since moving to the East Coast and I feel comfortable betting that they are very much like the elderly black women who lived in my neighborhoods—they worked hard all of their lives at low-paying jobs (often more than one at a time) to make ends meet, they often have to take care of their grandkids (and even extend their caring to the grandkids' friends), and they are devout Christians who dress in their Sunday finest and go to church every weekend. These women are not "progressives" or even especially liberal. They are old school and they are serious.

Again, the racist dog whistling was not lost of them. They were also very much disturbed by the hatefulness of the GOP (they mentioned it several times) and the characterization of the middle class & working poor as lazy freeloaders looking for a handout. Romney's 47% comments seriously pissed them off. They voted Dem and will continue to do so unless & until the GOP changes its ways.

Taxi ride today: My regular taxi driver is a naturalized citizen originally from El Salvador. She's an older woman and pretty conservative—she is a staunch Catholic who grew up in a small town where they had no running water (they took their baths & washed their clothes in the river), they had only intermittent electricity and no TV until she was older, and when it was time for dinner you went out and grabbed one of your chickens to kill & eat it.

The crap she's been hearing from the GOP about immigration—not to mention their characterization of immigrants as criminals and/or disease-ridden trash who just want to pop out "anchor babies" and leech off the system—and from people like Joe Arpaio seriously chapped her hide. Again, this is not a high-info voter—in fact, I only knew she was talking about Arpaio because she mentioned "the sheriff in AZ who makes criminals wear pink underwear", heh.

Anyway, she might not have been aware of all the names & party platforms, but she damned sure knew which party was anti-immigrant. She was very proud of her fellow hispanics for voting 70% for President Obama. She said that while they may have been lazy about going to vote in the past, that is OVER now thanks to the GOP. They are engaged and they are pissed.

109 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:12:12pm

re: #106 engineer cat

ya when i worked as a restaurant cook i used to work all the holidays

the upside was i would be off on like mondays and wednesdays and it was easier to do chores since gummint offices & suchlike would be open

Yeah,,, I LOVE having a day (or two) off Monday thru Friday. I usually do because I work either a Saturday or Sunday (or sometimes both)

Haircuts,,, grocery shopping ,,, banking,,, whatever

110 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:12:33pm

re: #107 Inconsequential Consequence

You work?

define "work"

111 Four More Tears  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:13:04pm

re: #104 sattv4u2

Sorry. I thought we were talking about having to work on holidays, not how much we make for working on holidays

I get the impression that you would agree that you are fairly compensated for being taken away from your family on those occasions. Many others are most certainly not.

112 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:14:14pm

re: #110 sattv4u2

define "work"

I can't, I've never done it. I've heard stories about it though.

113 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:15:41pm

re: #111 Four More Tears

I get the impression that you would agree that you are fairly compensated for being taken away from your family on those occasions. Many others are most certainly not.

Fairly compensated or not, I can't tell you how many family functions I have missed over the years. My sons birthdays, Christmas mornings when he was little, school functions he was involved in, his soccer matches, weddings,

Some things money can't replace, so again, I thought we were talking about having to work on holidays, not how much we make for working on holidays

114 freetoken  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:16:48pm

I see the IDiots are really pushing this story:

Obama once gave Rubio-like answer on Earth’s age

As the original story points out:

[...]

The truth is that scientific methods have shown, with a one percent degree of uncertainty, that the Earth is 4.54 billion years old, and that its environment formed over billions of years, not six days. As we said before, we suspect that Rubio trusts science on this question. Obama surely does as well. And yet neither of them can bring themselves to say it clearly or definitively.

Why they don't is hardly a "great mystery," as Rubio might put it. Somewhere around 30 percent of Americans believe the Bible should be taken literally, word for word. When you're running for the White House, or planning to, there's no point in alienating that many people on such a personal issue. Neither Rubio nor Obama are science-denying religious zealots. They are politicians.

Sadly, here in the US, the creationist if they are not the majority block will be considered a "swing" block and thus must always be offered a bone by any politician running nationally, or in certain regions of the country.

115 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:16:51pm

re: #110 sattv4u2

define "work"

Force times distance.

116 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:17:12pm

turkey sighted at mouth minus 23 hours and counting, captain

117 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:17:42pm

bbl

118 Four More Tears  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:17:53pm

re: #113 sattv4u2

Fairly compensated or not, I can't tell you how many family functions I have missed over the years. My sons birthdays, Christmas mornings when he was little, school functions he was involved in, his soccer matches, weddings,

Some things money can't replace, so again, I thought we were talking about having to work on holidays, not how much we make for working on holidays

I really don't want to make a federal case out of this. It annoys me to see pinheads (not I'm not talking about you... this time) complain quite loudly about the War on Christmas when at the same time Thanksgiving is disappearing for a large segment of the population. Yes, I understand that you have had to work on those days. Do you really want that that for other people when there's really no good reason for it?

119 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:18:44pm

re: #116 engineer cat

turkey sighted at mouth minus 23 hours and counting, captain

tryptophan activated and sleep achieved in 23 hours, 45 minutes

120 freetoken  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:20:18pm

Such as, for example, Indiana, from which we get this editorial today:

Creationism should be included in curriculum so students can choose

It's just a litany of usual talking points, including TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!!

121 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:21:52pm

re: #108 CuriousLurker

She said that while they may have been lazy about going to vote in the past, that is OVER now thanks to the GOP. They are engaged and they are pissed.

Post another comment so I can upding you again.

122 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:21:55pm

re: #118 Four More Tears

not I'm not talking about you... this time

How ,,, generous! {sigh}

Do you really want that that for other people when there's really no good reason for it

Then attack the demand. Work on friends and family to NOT go shopping on that day. How long do you think retailers would stay open if nobody showed up?

123 Four More Tears  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:23:05pm

re: #122 sattv4u2

not I'm not talking about you... this time

How ,,, generous! {sigh}

Do you really want that that for other people when there's really no good reason for it

The attack the demand. Work on friends and family to NOT go shopping on that day. How long do you think retailers would stay open if nobody showed up?

Dude, just let me kvetch, okay?

124 CuriousLurker  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:23:09pm

re: #121 wrenchwench

Post another comment so I can upding you again.

LOL, here ya' go.

125 freetoken  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:24:23pm

Realigning reality to fit our beliefs?

CIA closes dedicated climate change unit

126 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:24:26pm

re: #123 Four More Tears

Dude, just let me kvetch, okay?

knock yourself out!!!

(no,, literally,, take a hammer and ,,,, ) j/k

127 Four More Tears  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:25:28pm

re: #126 sattv4u2

knock yourself out!!!

(no,, literally,, take a hammer and ,,,, ) j/k

I'd rather do it with liquor, but we're still kinda on the same page.

128 CuriousLurker  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:25:33pm

re: #121 wrenchwench

Post another comment so I can upding you again.

I'll tell you what, it's a beautiful thing to see people feeling empowered by the sudden realization that their vote really does give them a voice. ;)

129 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:26:47pm

re: #127 Four More Tears

I'd rather do it with liquor, but we're still kinda on the same page.

Well, as long as Paige is okay with it!!

130 freetoken  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:27:30pm

Unlike the CIA, the EU isn't stopping. Yesterday the EU EEA delivered a large report on the impacts of climate change to Europe:

Climate change, impacts and vulnerability in Europe 2012

Full of pretty pictures.

131 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:28:12pm

re: #128 CuriousLurker

I'll tell you what, it's a beautiful thing to see people feeling empowered by the sudden realization that their vote gives them a voice. ;)

I think there's a lot of that going around in Arizona. Arpaio is still in office, but things are changing around him, in front of him, despite him and because of him.

132 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:32:51pm

re: #101 sattv4u2

I am, but no extra for holidays

Salaried

I also.. But during all the Holidays globally all of us go on the on call list. We try to help out various IT support functions. All the overflow goes to us. It can get really crazy. The phone may ring with a router issue somewhere in China at 3am. Or a password that doesn't work in Oracle.
I make coffee and get out my list of folks I know to call to fix it.. End up doing all the paperwork on line at 5am and planning breakfast.

133 CuriousLurker  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:36:50pm

re: #131 wrenchwench

I think there's a lot of that going around in Arizona. Arpaio is still in office, but things are changing around him, in front of him, despite him and because of him.

QFT

I think with a lot of immigrants the lethargy where voting is concerned might be due to the corruption in the process in many countries, i.e they figured, "Why bother? It's not going to make a difference." Seeing that it can indeed make a difference was an epiphany of sorts.

134 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:40:00pm

re: #44 makeitstop

I have chicken legs. That's why I never wear shorts.

Chicken legs (and body)

135 CuriousLurker  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:40:14pm

re: #132 A Man for all Seasons

Hope you've been well! *waves at HH*

136 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:40:34pm

re: #132 A Man for all Seasons

Do you get to do that from home, or have to physically go into an office/ facility, like I have too?

137 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:50:07pm

And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons

if I don't see 'you" tomorrow, have a wonderful Thanksgiving

138 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 4:57:35pm

I'm thankful that I live in New Mexico.

139 darthstar  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 5:00:36pm

Okay...Xmas lights are up...and my timer is working.

140 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 5:05:48pm

After bitching about genocidal jews, Turkey seems to think their missile defense idea is kind of spiffy.
NATO weighs Turkey’s request for missles near its border

141 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 5:07:31pm

re: #139 darthstar

Okay...Xmas lights are up...and my timer is working.

How much time do we have before it blows?

142 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 5:15:14pm

re: #141 Inconsequential Consequence

How much time do we have before it blows?

As much as we need. I can override his timer remotely.

//

143 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 5:16:30pm

re: #142 Dark_Falcon

As much as we need. I can override his timer remotely.

//

Where's the fun in that?

144 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 5:18:47pm

there are still some other dead ender engineers here in the cube farm knocking off a few last items before turkeyfication sets in

145 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 5:20:13pm

What happened Pat? The same thing that always happens when you think you're communing with the supernatural: you impose your beliefs on the situation. Easy to do of course.

146 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 5:20:20pm

re: #143 Inconsequential Consequence

Where's the fun in that?

Mocking Darthstar, blowing him up like he was Wile E. Coyote, etc.

//

147 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 5:21:17pm

I think the ghost of Thanksgivings passed has eaten all the lizards.

148 Bear  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 5:21:39pm

OT
A question about RT news I noticed today when looking at the programing I receive via satellite. Is this a foreign ( not US ) program?

149 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 5:21:50pm

re: #147 Inconsequential Consequence

I think the ghost of Thanksgivings passed has eaten all the lizards.

He tried but I zapped the jerk.

150 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 5:25:55pm

re: #148 Bear

OT
A question about RT news I noticed today when looking at the programing I receive via satellite. Is this a foreign ( not US ) program?

is russian company, comrade

151 abolitionist  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 5:26:12pm

re: #148 Bear

OT
A question about RT news I noticed today when looking at the programing I receive via satellite. Is this a foreign ( not US ) program?

RT is short for Russia Today. Hope that helps.

152 Bear  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 5:28:18pm

Many thanks for the info.

153 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 5:28:21pm

Evening Lizardim. Happy early Thanksgiving to those of the present company who live between the Rio Grande and the 49th parallel, or are affiliated with the government of said territory. How are things on this unseasonably warm November evening?

154 TedStriker  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 5:30:05pm

re: #148 Bear

OT
A question about RT news I noticed today when looking at the programing I receive via satellite. Is this a foreign ( not US ) program?

re: #150 engineer cat

is russian company, comrade

re: #151 abolitionist

RT is short for Russia Today. Hope that helps.

Russia Today is basically a pro-Putin tabloid-ish channel in the vein of Rupert Murdoch's UK rags...take any story there with a trainload of salt.

155 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 5:36:11pm

re: #153 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

Evening Lizardim. Happy early Thanksgiving to those of the present company who live between the Rio Grande and the 49th parallel, or are affiliated with the government of said territory. How are things on this unseasonably warm November evening?

The Rio Grande runs north-south through New Mexico. I'm on the west side. Are your greetings aimed my way?

Image: 508px-Riogranderivermap.png

156 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 5:37:46pm

re: #155 wrenchwench

The Rio Grande runs north-south through New Mexico. I'm on the west side. Are your greetings aimed my way?

Image: 508px-Riogranderivermap.png

A trifling technicality. Especially as the traditional "dividing line" of the United States flows over its rushing path only 20-some miles from my current location. I think we can include you in my greetings.

157 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 5:40:28pm

re: #156 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

A trifling technicality. Especially as the traditional "dividing line" of the United States flows over its rushing path only 20-some miles from my current location. I think we can include you in my greetings.

How about the gators in the river?

158 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 5:40:46pm

re: #157 Inconsequential Consequence

How about the gators in the river?

Nah, Mexico can keep those./

159 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Nov 21, 2012 5:44:45pm

re: #120 freetoken

Fort Wayne, Indiana. Part of Creationism-land. What's sad is the writer is a high school journalist who is not exercising her journalistic "doubt everything" muscles, or maybe she hasn't learned she has them yet. The first comment is from a college prof, and almost as long as her column.


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