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I’m Dreaming of a War on Christmas

Time for the annual persecution complex
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Now that Thanksgiving is over, we can look forward to Fox News’s annual Christian Persecution-fest — the “War on Christmas!” This year, expect them to be even more crazed and ridiculous than ever.

Also see:
A Declaration of War on Christmas

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1 Turkey Jihad  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 12:31:39pm

Frank Rich nails it: [Link: www.rawstory.com...]

2 Turkey Jihad  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 12:33:32pm

Ever notice how we never win these metaphorical wars? "War on drugs," "War on Christmas," "War on Poverty"...

3 Bulworth  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 12:36:53pm

The annual persecution complex is a 24/7, 365 project.

4 allegro  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 12:38:02pm

re: #3 Bulworth

The annual persecution complex is a 24/7, 365 project.

I've decided that if they don't feel continuously persecuted they don't feel like good christianists. It's like a rule.

5 Obdicut  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 12:38:08pm

re: #2 Turkey Jihad

Ever notice how we never win these metaphorical wars? "War on drugs," "War on Christmas," "War on Poverty"...

Yet they're always kind of triumphant. Because they're not meant to be won, just fought, and the harder and more brutally they're fought the more they're liked. Er, with the exception of the war on poverty. That one is all socialist though.

6 jaunte  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 12:39:29pm

How depressing. This concentrated dose of Fox News paranoia trolling might need a warning sticker.

7 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 12:43:32pm

Ah, is it already time for the annual victimhood over a pagan ritual that Mother Church created a holiday around in its continuing effort to force non-believers to accept the faith?

If there's a "War on Christmas," it's the overcommerialization of the holiday to the point that Americans associate the holiday with increasingly expensive gifts and ever-increasing credit card debt. And bad news for the Christians: the retailers are winning.

8 ReamWorks SKG  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 12:47:20pm

It's funny how the goyim don't really get the issue. I remember getting very angry when I was in line at the Supermarket. The woman in front of me was buying stamps, and the cashier had some U.S. "Holiday" Stamps, I think it was this series:

Image: knits_lg.jpg

The clerk said "I don't have Christmas stamps, I have 'holiday' stamps. I guess we can't say Christmas anymore!" And the customer agreed, saying how horrible it was.

I had to say _something_ to them, but the only thing I could think of was "You really don't understand the whole issue, and you sound very stupid."

As a Jew, I am vehemently opposed to the "Christmasification" of Hanukkah! I would MUCH RATHER people called Christmas "Christmas" instead of "The Holidays" when they mean Christmas. It bothers me greatly that my (minor) festival is lumped together with Christmas.

Of course, Christians shouldn't presume that everyone celebrates it. But call a Christmas party a Christmas party if that's what it's celebrating, etc. Call a "Christmas Sale" a Christmas sale if that's what it is. To me that's much better than trying, badly, to dilute my holiday and merge it into yours.

(I see stores with signs that say "Get it Delivered by The Holidays" and they mean 12/25, not when Hanukkah starts this year on 12/8 evening)

9 Turkey Jihad  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 12:49:59pm

I live in a pretty high-rent area, and the people here have everything they could possibly want/need. They also drive their douchecanoes with those stupid reindeer antlers on the windows and the red nose in the grille. Oh, and there is always, always a "Keep the Christ in Christmas" bumper sticker on the rear-view window, it is so disgusting.

10 ReamWorks SKG  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 12:51:54pm

Keep the ח in חנוכה!

11 Turkey Jihad  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 12:52:21pm

re: #6 jaunte

How depressing. This concentrated dose of Fox News paranoia trolling might need a warning sticker.

I forgot that it was you that created the terrorist turkey last year in response to Drunken Pam. I was asking for some Lizard to post that picture because it gave me the biggest laugh in my history at LGF. I found it a few minutes later, bravo.

12 nines09  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 12:52:25pm

Fox News. Finding bogeymen under your bed 24/7. They have to have an enemy. Doesn't work without one.

13 DelusionDeluge  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 12:54:36pm

It's comforting to know that the wingnuts' unwavering support of Israel has nothing to do with respecting the Jewish religion, but rather assuring Jews are in place for their slaughter during the End Times.

14 Charleston Chew  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 12:54:46pm

The computer algorithms conservatives use to auto-generate news stories while they're away on holiday have gotten pretty good.

"War On [select holiday nearest to present date]"
"Obama is bad because [insert trending search term]."

15 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 12:56:20pm

re: #10 ReamWorks SKG

Keep the ח in חנוכה!

Keep the Chan in Chanukah!

16 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 12:57:34pm

There's already a war AT Christmas (shopping)

"we have met the enemy and he is us"

Sampling of headlines from Drudge

'Gang fight' at Black Friday sale...
Man Punched in Face Pulls Gun On Line-Cutting Shopper...
Shots fired outside WALMART...
Shoppers smash through door at URBAN OUTFITTERS...
Customers run over in parking lot...
Woman busted after throwing merchandise...
Thousands storm VICTORIA'S SECRET...
VIDEO: Insane battle over phones...
Mayhem at Nebraska mall where 9 murdered in 2007...
Shoplifter tries to mace security guards...
Men Steal Boy's Shopping Bag Outside BED, BATH & BEYOND...
Heckler calls them zombies...

NOTE ,,, a variety of sources including affiliates of FOX, NBC, ABC as well as the LA TIMES

17 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 12:57:58pm

It is a very common observation that Jesus of Nazareth would be amazed and disheartened at the spectacle of greed and materialism that surrounds His designated birthday. Does anyone doubt that it is true, though?

18 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 12:58:03pm

I am almost done with purchasing parts for my computer.

However, I now need a reliable Blu-Ray Player/Burner. Recommend me one.

19 Obdicut  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 12:58:30pm

Is it just me, or does this look a little KKK?

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I mean in a funny KKK way.

20 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:00:13pm

re: #19 Obdicut

Ohh, that's unfortunate. Someone was asleep at the wheel.

Though I got a laugh out of it.

21 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:00:25pm

re: #17 Shiplord Kirel

#16

22 engineer cat  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:00:51pm

re: #8 ReamWorks SKG

we should just say 'happy yule', since that is the pagan holiday whose rituals we follow most closely at this time of year. low information voters will never realize that you just wished them a happy pagan celebration

if you want to "keep the christ in christmas", then the celebration of christmas, properly so-called, should be about going to church on christmas eve and celebrating midnight mass - not yule logs, sacred trees of thor, and gift bearing elves

23 ReamWorks SKG  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:02:10pm

re: #22 engineer cat

we should just say 'happy yule', since that is the pagan holiday whose rituals we follow most closely at this time of year. low information voters will never realize that you just wished them a happy pagan celebration

if you want to "keep the christ in christmas", then the celebration of christmas, properly so-called, should be about going to church on christmas eve and celebrating midnight mass - not yule logs, sacred trees of thor, and gift bearing elves

Maybe so, but I don't presume to tell people of other faiths how to worship their Messiah.

24 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:02:29pm

re: #22 engineer cat

we should just say 'happy yule',,,low information voters will never realize that you just wished them a happy pagan celebratio
n

That, or that you're interested in their log!!
wait,, wha!?!?!

25 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:03:28pm

re: #23 ReamWorks SKG

Maybe so, but I don't presume to tell people of other faiths how to worship their Messiah.

Or their thor logs!!

26 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:04:19pm

re: #8 ReamWorks SKG

So what do you think of all this paranoid ranting from Fox News?

27 Political Atheist  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:04:26pm

re: #16 sattv4u2

There's already a war AT Christmas (shopping)

"we have met the enemy and he is us"

Sampling of headlines from Drudge

'Gang fight' at Black Friday sale...
Man Punched in Face Pulls Gun On Line-Cutting Shopper...
Shots fired outside WALMART...
Shoppers smash through door at URBAN OUTFITTERS...
Customers run over in parking lot...
Woman busted after throwing merchandise...
Thousands storm VICTORIA'S SECRET...
VIDEO: Insane battle over phones...
Mayhem at Nebraska mall where 9 murdered in 2007...
Shoplifter tries to mace security guards...
Men Steal Boy's Shopping Bag Outside BED, BATH & BEYOND...
Heckler calls them zombies...

NOTE ,,, a variety of source affiliates of FOX, NBC, ABC as well as the LA TIMES

*shameless industry promo*
I'd just like to remind our shoppers that the jewelry districts in LA, NY, Miami and Chicago are calm, cool and collected. Friends don't let friends go to the mall. Lots of nice goodies to make him or her look and feel great. Gold, platinum, silver, fashion... (costume jewelry) Go get something shiny.

28 Charleston Chew  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:04:42pm

re: #17 Shiplord Kirel

It is a very common observation that Jesus of Nazareth would be amazed and disheartened at the spectacle of greed and materialism that surrounds His designated birthday. Does anyone doubt that it is true, though?

He'd also ask, "Why do they celebrate my birthday in the winter? I was born in June." Then we'd have to explain how his religion ended up based in the capital of imperial Rome ("Really? Those douches?"), and how the Pontiff is a German barbarian, and why Christmas isn't a Jewish holiday...

Sorry, Jesus. It's complicated.

29 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:05:14pm

re: #23 ReamWorks SKG

Maybe so, but I don't presume to tell people of other faiths how to worship their Messiah.

And who precisely is doing that?

30 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:05:56pm

re: #27 Political Atheist

that the jewelry districts in LA, NY, Miami and Chicago are calm, cool and collected. and usually heavily protected

31 Bulworth  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:06:39pm

I know Faux News and Drudge don't really care, but in some parts of the Christian world, this season is more properly known as Advent. Please get the name right, RWNJ.

32 ReamWorks SKG  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:07:14pm

re: #26 Gus

I don't think there's a war on Christmas, but I think they have a tiny fraction of a point. We shouldn't shy away from calling something done for the 12/25 holiday "Christmas" if that's what it is.

What originally bothered people was the presumption that the entirety of the USA celebrates Christmas. Nobody wanted holidays of other religious traditions lumped into one generic "December 25 Holiday" category which is what has happened.

33 Charleston Chew  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:07:26pm

re: #2 Turkey Jihad

Ever notice how we never win these metaphorical wars? "War on drugs," "War on Christmas," "War on Poverty"...

We won't have peace until there's a War On War.

34 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:08:33pm

Recommendations for Internal Blu-Ray Drives?

35 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:08:48pm

re: #32 ReamWorks SKG

Nobody wanted holidays of other religious traditions lumped into one generic "December 25 Holiday" category.

Except for Frank Costanza

"Festivus for the Rest of Us"
/

36 Turkey Jihad  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:09:51pm
37 ReamWorks SKG  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:10:30pm

re: #34 ProGunLiberal

I have this one: LG Electronics WH14NS40

Use it with Windows 7 and 8

38 b_sharp  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:12:04pm

re: #34 ProGunLiberal

Recommendations for Internal Blu-Ray Drives/

They're all the same, made in China.

39 Varek Raith  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:12:56pm

"American Components, Russian Components, all the same, all made in Taiwan!"

40 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:13:39pm

re: #32 ReamWorks SKG

I don't think there's a war on Christmas, but I think they have a tiny fraction of a point. We shouldn't shy away from calling something done for the 12/25 holiday "Christmas" if that's what it is.

What originally bothered people was the presumption that the entirety of the USA celebrates Christmas. Nobody wanted holidays of other religious traditions lumped into one generic "December 25 Holiday" category.

It's what you want it to be and no one is forcing it into one lump of "Happy Holiday." The reality is that this is done for consumer reasons and to increase "holiday sales." It saves on printing and marketing costs when you don't have to target any particular religion. Besides that, people of true faith shouldn't be challenged by a print ad.

Happy holidays.

41 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:15:50pm

re: #39 Varek Raith

"American Components, Russian Components, all the same, all made in Taiwan!"

"No wonder this circuit failed. It says 'Made in Japan'."
"What do you mean, Doc? All the best stuff is made in Japan."
"Unbelievable."

42 b_sharp  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:16:33pm

re: #40 Gus

It's what you want it to be and no one is forcing it into one lump of "Happy Holiday." The reality is that this is done for consumer reasons and to increase "holiday sales." It saves on printing and marketing costs when you don't have to target any particular religion. Besides that, people of true faith shouldn't be challenged by a print ad.

Happy holidays.

Funny how we only make a point of telling people to 'get happy' a few times a year. I guess the rest of the year is Fuck You.

43 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:18:10pm

re: #37 ReamWorks SKG

Thank you. I have 3 of the parts in my possession, and three are being shipped from Amazon.

Parents have said they'll take care of the final 3 parts that haven't been purchased. (Motherboard, Video Card, and Blu-Ray Drive). It's just, looking at reviews, I see issues with almost all Blu-Ray Drives.

The cost will be ~$1300.

Also, is there a place that can do CD Repairs?

44 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:18:23pm

re: #42 A Sockpuppet's Sockpuppet

Funny how we only make a point of telling people to 'get happy' a few times a year. I guess the rest of the year is Fuck You.

People get weirder this time of year. It's like people who complain about Christmas music. My advice to them is a) stop listening to Christmas music or b) stop going to places that play Christmas music. Also note that I said Christmas.

45 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:18:50pm

re: #42 A Sockpuppet's Sockpuppet

Funny how we only make a point of telling people to 'get happy' a few times a year. I guess the rest of the year is Fuck You.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY
HAPPY VALENTINES DAY
HAPPY EASTER
HAPPY FOURTH OF JULY
HAPPY THANKSGIVING

I try year round!

46 Jolo5309  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:19:26pm

re: #44 Gus

People get weirder this time of year. It's like people who complain about Christmas music. My advice to them is a) stop listening to Christmas music or b) stop going to places that play Christmas music. Also note that I said Christmas.

A radio station here has fired all their on air staff, now they only play Christmas music...

47 allegro  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:19:55pm

re: #40 Gus

It's what you want it to be and no one is forcing it into one lump of "Happy Holiday." The reality is that this is done for consumer reasons and to increase "holiday sales." It saves on printing and marketing costs when you don't have to target any particular religion. Besides that, people of true faith shouldn't be challenged by a print ad.

Happy holidays.

It's also for those of us who have traditionally sent the yearly card/letter to friends and family - all of different beliefs and faiths. It's the keeping-in-touch that's important regardless of the holiday observed (or not observed) so generic cards are most appropriate. When I wish Happy Holidays to someone I mean happy holidays. If someone takes offense, not my problem... or my rudeness.

48 b_sharp  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:20:02pm

re: #43 ProGunLiberal

Thank you. I have 3 of the parts in my possession, and three are being shipped from Amazon.

Parents have said they'll take care of the final 3 parts that haven't been purchased. (Motherboard, Video Card, and Blu-Ray Drive). It's just, looking at reviews, I see issues with almost all Blu-Ray Drives.

The cost will be ~$1300.

Also, is there a place that can do CD Repairs?

DVDRW drives are a dime a dozen, they've become disposable. If it dies, you take the laser out to play with and trash the rest.

49 engineer cat  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:20:45pm

i always thought the phrase "happy holidays" originated in the desire to be polite to americans who might, for some incomprehensible reason, not be christians, and might even be celebrating the holidays of some other religion

as far as i can make out, what people call "political correctness" always seems to stem from somebody's effort to be polite, even though we have, it seems, failed to anticipate how objectionable being polite is to some people

50 b_sharp  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:21:10pm

re: #45 sattv4u2

HAPPY BIRTHDAY
HAPPY VALENTINES DAY
HAPPY EASTER
HAPPY FOURTH OF JULY
HAPPY THANKSGIVING

I try year round!

Damn, I gotta try that: Happy Wednesday! Merry Friday!
Drunken Saturday!

51 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:21:43pm

re: #48 A Sockpuppet's Sockpuppet

I plan on being a pet addict, so that tip is good.

But, what about CD repairs? Is there a place I can have someone look at a CD?

52 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:21:53pm

re: #43 ProGunLiberal

Thank you. I have 3 of the parts in my possession, and three are being shipped from Amazon.

Parents have said they'll take care of the final 3 parts that haven't been purchased. (Motherboard, Video Card, and Blu-Ray Drive). It's just, looking at reviews, I see issues with almost all Blu-Ray Drives.

The cost will be ~$1300.

Also, is there a place that can do CD Repairs?

Do you have any reason to require Blu-Ray over DVD? If not, stay lower level. Cheaper, fewer issues, etc. The other consideration is your OS, because of drivers. Windows will, of course, be far less fussy than other options but will make you pay in other ways.

53 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:22:39pm

re: #50 A Sockpuppet's Sockpuppet

Damn, I gotta try that: Happy Wish You Were Dead Wednesday! Merry Fuck Off Friday!
Drunken STFU Saturday!

ftfy

54 allegro  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:23:53pm

re: #49 engineer cat

i always thought the phrase "happy holidays" originated in the desire to be polite to americans who might, for some incomprehensible reason, not be christians, and might even be celebrating the holidays of some other religion

as far as i can make out, what people call "political correctness" always seems to stem from somebody's effort to be polite, even though we have, it seems, failed to anticipate how objectionable being polite is to some people

This.

55 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:25:26pm

re: #49 engineer cat

i always thought the phrase "happy holidays" originated in the desire to be polite to americans who might, for some incomprehensible reason, not be christians, and might even be celebrating the holidays of some other religion

as far as i can make out, what people call "political correctness" always seems to stem from somebody's effort to be polite, even though we have, it seems, failed to anticipate how objectionable being polite is to some people

Once more for good measure.

56 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:25:35pm

re: #52 William Barnett-Lewis

I won't have a Blu-Ray player when I am on my own. The computer can serve as a Blu-Ray Player.

57 b_sharp  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:25:39pm

re: #51 ProGunLiberal

I plan on being a pet addict, so that tip is good.

But, what about CD repairs? Is there a place I can have someone look at a CD?

Sorry, you are talking about the disk itself. There are methods described on the Inet, there are machine you can buy, but I've not heard of a place that specializes in it. Most of the fixes tend to remove material past the scratch in the hopes the laser cut trough is deep enough to be picked up.

58 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:27:11pm

re: #57 A Sockpuppet's Sockpuppet

My car's CD player fucked up a Disk from a soundtrack.

The Final Fantasy VII:Advent Children soundtrack.

59 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:27:30pm

re: #45 sattv4u2

HAPPY BIRTHDAY
HAPPY VALENTINES DAY
HAPPY EASTER
HAPPY FOURTH OF JULY
HAPPY THANKSGIVING

I try year round!

HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY

60 TedStriker  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:27:47pm

re: #43 ProGunLiberal

Thank you. I have 3 of the parts in my possession, and three are being shipped from Amazon.

Parents have said they'll take care of the final 3 parts that haven't been purchased. (Motherboard, Video Card, and Blu-Ray Drive). It's just, looking at reviews, I see issues with almost all Blu-Ray Drives.

The cost will be ~$1300.

Also, is there a place that can do CD Repairs?

I have a Asus BR burner (about a year old) in my main desktop and a LITEON BR reader (about 2-2.5 years old) in my media box; both work pretty well, I've not had issues out of either of them.

61 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:28:57pm

re: #49 engineer cat

i always thought the phrase "happy holidays" originated in the desire to be polite to americans who might, for some incomprehensible reason, not be christians, and might even be celebrating the holidays of some other religion

as far as i can make out, what people call "political correctness" always seems to stem from somebody's effort to be polite, even though we have, it seems, failed to anticipate how objectionable being polite is to some people

Also interesting to note at least from my perspective. Do we spend all of June leading into July saying "Happy 4th of July" or all of October saying "Happy Halloween?"

62 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:28:57pm

re: #58 ProGunLiberal

Only one song though. I like the design on the CD though. :(

63 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:29:15pm

In that case. Happy New Year!

64 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:29:52pm
65 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:30:20pm

re: #62 ProGunLiberal

Although, I think I have all the songs on the hard drive.......

66 b_sharp  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:30:35pm

re: #58 ProGunLiberal

My car's CD player fucked up a Disk from a soundtrack.

The Final Fantasy VII:Advent Children soundtrack.

Look up how to repair it on the Inet. It will likely require sandpaper and elbow grease so make sure you have both.

67 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:33:02pm

re: #66 A Sockpuppet's Sockpuppet

My motor skills are screwed up enough that I personally don't want to try it with me. I will still look at it, hold a moment.

68 TedStriker  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:33:33pm

re: #58 ProGunLiberal

My car's CD player fucked up a Disk from a soundtrack.

The Final Fantasy VII:Advent Children soundtrack.

If it's a scratch through the lacquer side (the top), you're most likely hosed; if it's a scratch on the bottom side, you might be able to get one of those resurfacing/buffing kits (or be able to do it by hand) to get it good enough so you can rip it to your computer.

Check this out for some tips: WikiHow - How to Fix a Scratched CD

69 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:34:08pm

re: #59 Feline Fearless Leader

HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY

Image: happy-happy-joy-joy.jpg

70 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:34:44pm

re: #51 ProGunLiberal

I plan on being a pet addict, so that tip is good.

But, what about CD repairs? Is there a place I can have someone look at a CD?

I used to take mine to a game re-selling shop and they had a buffer wheel to take the scratches out. If it's more than that, it's a clay pigeon at best.

71 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:34:44pm
72 dragonath  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:34:57pm

re: #59 Feline Fearless Leader

73 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:35:23pm

BBL

of to the store war!

74 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:36:20pm

re: #70 William Barnett-Lewis

The damage is on the bottom, and affects exactly one track. I'm looking through my Computer now though.

75 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:37:00pm

A Declaration Of War On Christmas
by Rich Abdill

The time has arrived, as it does every year, for America to be besieged by that familiar and insidious enemy: Christmas. We have endured its tyranny for 2,000 years, with its manger scenes, its mint-flavored everything, its bearded occupation of J.C. Penny locations nationwide. Christmas flaunts its influence from the gilded trees in suburban bay windows across our land, mocking us while hijacking the radio waves for reindeer idolatry and the glorification of little boys with drums.

And we shall suffer it no longer.

Though its supporters have long bemoaned “attacks” on this, the worst of all seasons, Christmas has never felt the wrath of the people, the power of the oppressed masses. We shall rise up. We shall fight back. Before the media warns us for another year of the stealth “War on Christmas,” we shall make it clear.

We shall, officially, declare war on Christmas.

Continues.

76 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:37:17pm
77 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:38:54pm

re: #74 ProGunLiberal

Success! I have burned all of my music from that particular disk in the past. That makes this very, very simple.

78 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:39:43pm

re: #76 Gus

[Embedded content]

You gonna make a whole deck?

79 dragonfire1981  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:39:47pm

I am tinkering on a Galaxy SIII that i got today for a mere $50. I am quite liking it so far.

On another note while i was in line at Best Buy i stumbled across proof Charles is trying to take over the world!

80 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:40:12pm

re: #78 wrenchwench

You gonna make a whole deck?

No! Was thinking about that though.

81 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:40:26pm

Edit: Oops. Deleted.

82 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:40:27pm

re: #56 ProGunLiberal

I won't have a Blu-Ray player when I am on my own. The computer can serve as a Blu-Ray Player.

Heh. I only watch movies from TPB (maybe once a year at that) anymore so I don't think much about that. Honestly, I'd say buy the cheapest that is sold because it's not one of those gadgets where more money is going to get you much of anything.

83 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:42:13pm

re: #80 Gus

[Embedded content]

No! Was thinking about that though.

Maybe just kings and queens and a couple of jokers....

84 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:47:06pm

re: #83 wrenchwench

Maybe just kings and queens and a couple of jokers....

Did that one only for the #waronchristmas thread which was going pretty strong earlier. Some rather hilarious stuff from Wonkette. It was like a live Tweeting of a war on Christmas.

85 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:48:37pm
86 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:50:36pm

4 Tweets from the early hours of the war:




87 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:53:09pm

Spoiler alert! In that new movie "Lincoln," Abe gets assassinated in the end.

88 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:53:27pm

As a member of the ATHEIST ILLUMINATI, I would like to try, once again, to clear up a huge misconception.

There is NOT a "War on Christmas." We atheist Illuminati enjoy and celebrate a lot of the aspects of Christmas, and would never seek to see it put asunder. The pagan symbolism, the mistletoe-inspired fornication, the drunken revelry we can pretend to blame on the eggnog (and really, most of us don't bother with the eggnog; we just go straight for the whiskey), the crass consumerism... we're okay with all that as long as all the participants are informed and consenting.

What there IS, however, is a "War on Christmas Music". I have to level with you, in my official capacity as Self-Appointed Atheist Spokesperson: that shit is VILE. Literary types are familiar with the Bulwer–Lytton Fiction Contest, whose contestants attempt to do savage violence to the literary art by deliberately constructing a cringe-inducing opening sentence to an imaginary novel which would presumably be at least as bad. Christmas music composed in the 20th Century, nearly all of which is of American origin, is some of the most nauseating dreck ever composed.

Christmas music of the sort I'm describing enjoys a strange social immunity to criticism not enjoyed by other horrifying popular music. An average person who declares that they sincerely believe the song "My Hump" by The Black Eyed Peas to be THE dumbest noise ever committed to a 16-track master might be disagreed with, but is unlikely to suffer the social consequences that could be expected by a similar person who expresses identically vehement disgust with "Rudolph the Red-Nose Reindeer" or "Frosty The Snowman".

I still enjoy a traditional rendition of "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen" and "We Three Kings", so long as they haven't been massacred by the RAY CONNIFF SINGERS.

89 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:54:34pm

re: #87 Gus

Spoiler alert! In that new movie "Lincoln," Abe gets assassinated in the end.

My friend spoiled the ending for Titanic the other day for me. Told me the ship sunk. Can you believe that?

//

90 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:55:37pm

Chestnuts roasting on an open flame thrower.
War on Christmas - 2012

91 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:56:18pm

Oh jeez. They're doing birther calls in Denver.

92 dragonfire1981  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:56:52pm

I anxiously await word from the North Pole information minister.

93 researchok  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:57:14pm

re: #91 Gus

Let me guess- Neil Boortz?

94 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:59:43pm

re: #93 researchok

Let me guess- Neil Boortz?

Don't know. They didn't call me but someone else. He didn't make it through to the end. Some call about Barry Soetoro, Indonesia, Muslims, traitor, Obama's a Moozlim, etc.

95 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 1:59:50pm

Damn the Muslim Brotherhood.

We need to leak the bad stuff on the Muslim Brotherhood. Create a problem for them and their governments. Including Algeria.

96 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:00:13pm

Speaking of wingnuts...

97 researchok  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:00:13pm

re: #94 Gus

Shocking.
//

98 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:01:23pm

re: #97 researchok

Shocking.
//

Un-American.

99 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:05:06pm

re: #95 ProGunLiberal

Damn the Muslim Brotherhood.

[Embedded content]

We need to leak the bad stuff on the Muslim Brotherhood. Create a problem for them and their governments. Including Algeria.

Actually, she's not laying this down only on the MB as you can tell by "Women's 2nd revolution is vs misogyny." This is a wider problem in Egypt.

100 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:06:12pm

re: #99 Gus

Do you really think those slimy MB shits would help the problem? They are prolific liars and charlatans.

101 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:10:47pm

re: #100 ProGunLiberal

Do you really think those slimy MB shits would help the problem? They are prolific liars and charlatans.

They certainly wouldn't help women's rights but the stories of sexual assaults on women in public is going to give them an excuse for modestly police, requiring related male escorts in public, etc.

102 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:10:59pm

re: #88 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

As a member of the ATHEIST ILLUMINATI, I would like to try, once again, to clear up a huge misconception.

There is NOT a "War on Christmas." We atheist Illuminati enjoy and celebrate a lot of the aspects of Christmas, and would never seek to see it put asunder. The pagan symbolism, the mistletoe-inspired fornication, the drunken revelry we can pretend to blame on the eggnog (and really, most of us don't bother with the eggnog; we just go straight for the whiskey), the crass consumerism... we're okay with all that as long as all the participants are informed and consenting.

What there IS, however, is a "War on Christmas Music". I have to level with you, in my official capacity as Self-Appointed Atheist Spokesperson: that shit is VILE. Literary types are familiar with the Bulwer–Lytton Fiction Contest, whose contestants attempt to do savage violence to the literary art by deliberately constructing a cringe-inducing opening sentence to an imaginary novel which would presumably be at least as bad. Christmas music composed in the 20th Century, nearly all of which is of American origin, is some of the most nauseating dreck ever composed.

Christmas music of the sort I'm describing enjoys a strange social immunity to criticism not enjoyed by other horrifying popular music. An average person who declares that they sincerely believe the song "My Hump" by The Black Eyed Peas to be THE dumbest noise ever committed to a 16-track master might be disagreed with, but is unlikely to suffer the social consequences that could be expected by a similar person who expresses identically vehement disgust with "Rudolph the Red-Nose Reindeer" or "Frosty The Snowman".

I still enjoy a traditional rendition of "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen" and "We Three Kings", so long as they haven't been massacred by the RAY CONNIFF SINGERS.

I like my Bobby Rodriguez "Latin Jazz Christmas", and "Merry Axemas" by Various Artists. However, the most unlistenable "music" ever recorded is Bob Dylan's Christmas record. No link! You'll have to google it!

--Atheist, but apparently not Illuminati.

P.S. I left you some bicycle info on the previous thread.

103 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:12:27pm

I guess all the pundits and serious journalists are on vacation. I'm not finding any analysis about Morsi's chances of getting away with this, what his long term plans may be or how powerful the protests might be.

104 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:12:59pm

re: #101 Killgore Trout

It's likely a bunch of MB leeches. The ones who shout the loudest about Morality are always the most debauched.

105 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:14:23pm

re: #100 ProGunLiberal

Do you really think those slimy MB shits would help the problem? They are prolific liars and charlatans.

Saying that misogyny is a wider problem in Egypt is not an endorsement of the MB nor Morsi.

106 stabby  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:14:50pm

re: #4 allegro

re: #3 Bulworth

The annual persecution complex is a 24/7, 365 project.

I've decided that if they don't feel continuously persecuted they don't feel like good christianists. It's like a rule.

Well it works on the same principle as suspense in drama, at some level the brain can't distinguish a real threat from a pretend one (or a lie) and your attention can be riveted to their channel for hours or all day.

Unfortunately this method of enslaving people has psychological side effects, not just the political ones in FOX's case. People who are reacting to imaginary threats aren't attuned to finer emotions, in a sense people are being denied the better part of their humanity this way.

107 Mr.Boots  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:17:25pm

What about the War on Thanksgiving? Corporatists are forcing out a uniquely American holiday in favor of an international holiday by putting up Christmas decorations well before Thanksgiving and now instituting "Black Thursday Evening."

Where is the Fox outcry against these Internationalist One World corporatists who are trying to destroy a uniquely American holiday?

Although I'm being sarcastic, the relegation of Thanksgiving as merely the start of the Christmas spending season does truly piss me off

108 Interesting Times  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:18:21pm

re: #105 Gus

Saying that misogyny is a wider problem in Egypt is not an endorsement of the MB nor Morsi.

The most misogynistic "custom" of all - female genital mutilation - got its start in the days of the Pharaohs. Misogyny is a problem that predates Abrahamic religions.

109 Varek Raith  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:18:58pm

ALL HAIL MUBARAK!
/

110 Interesting Times  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:20:12pm

On a less-depressing note, if I click the Amazon banner from here and buy things already in my Wishlist, LGF will still get a cut, right?

111 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:20:44pm

re: #106 stabby

Welcome, hatchling. I take it you had no trouble getting out of your shell.

112 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:21:49pm
114 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:28:13pm

That was one of the protests in Cairo. Also related:

115 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:32:26pm

re: #114 Gus

That was one of the protests in Cairo. Also related:

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No surprise there. With the internet connecting the world together, it was inevitable that the wingnuts would find foreign audiences willing to believe their conspiracy theories.

116 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:35:08pm

re: #115 Targetpractice

No surprise there. With the internet connecting the world together, it was inevitable that the wingnuts would find foreign audiences willing to believe their conspiracy theories.

This is actually from within Egypt. It really hasn't gained that much ground from what I've been seeing though. It's a rather absurd conspiracy theory.

117 Jolo5309  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:35:38pm

re: #102 wrenchwench

I like my Bobby Rodriguez "Latin Jazz Christmas", and "Merry Axemas" by Various Artists. However, the most unlistenable "music" ever recorded is Bob Dylan's Christmas record. No link! You'll have to google it!

--Atheist, but apparently not Illuminati.

P.S. I left you some bicycle info on the previous thread.

The only Christmas albums I have liked are the Dino Martinis and whatever the punk Christmas album was (I forget the name).

118 Charles Johnson  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:35:54pm

re: #110 Interesting Times

On a less-depressing note, if I click the Amazon banner from here and buy things already in my Wishlist, LGF will still get a cut, right?

I think so, but I'm not totally sure. It's kind of hard to find details of how stuff like that works in relation to an Associate link.

119 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:36:07pm

re: #115 Targetpractice

No surprise there. With the internet connecting the world together, it was inevitable that the wingnuts would find foreign audiences willing to believe their conspiracy theories.

But it does involve and reach out to the wingnuts.

120 stabby  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:37:29pm

re: #115 Targetpractice

Well it's only fair, moonbats like Noam Chomsky have been making up conspiracy theories they've believed for years.

It's a sad fact that crazy attention seekers in the first world often seem to do their best to encourage serious things like violence in the 3rd world. I doubt any of them would even feel guilty if a line could be drawn and their part demonstrated.

121 Charles Johnson  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:38:26pm

Wow, I just saw our first-ever 7-character bit.ly shortened link code. RWC's latest page has it - the Canon commercial.

[Link: lgf.bz...]

I had to alter the database to allow more than 6 characters - I thought that was the max, but apparently not.

122 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:41:47pm

Not Page-worthy:

Luna County resident David Morrill, 47, claims the image of the Virgin Mary appeared on this log of firewood.

He says he spotted the image after placing the wood under his Christmas tree. What do you think? Is it a holy image, or just a a naturally occurring discoloration on the wood?

Our Log of Guadalupe

123 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:43:11pm

re: #122 wrenchwench

Not Page-worthy:

Our Log of Guadalupe

What do I think? I think he needs to get his vision checked.

124 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:44:50pm

re: #122 wrenchwench

Not Page-worthy:

Our Log of Guadalupe

Just imagine: People who believe in this sort of thing also operate motor vehicles on the public roads and vote in elections.

125 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:46:02pm

re: #122 wrenchwench

Not Page-worthy:

Our Log of Guadalupe

Clearly it's a holy image. Here's another one...

Image: virgin_mary_in_wood_2012_11-08.jpg

126 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:46:46pm

Seeing the Virgin Mary in a piece of wood is like seeing George Washington in the clouds.

127 freetoken  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:50:18pm

The WaPo editorial board put it bluntly yesterday:


The GOP’s bizarre attack on Susan Rice

SINCE THE Senate is solely responsible for the confirmation of Cabinet officers, it’s not often that members of the House of Representatives jump into a debate about the nomination of a secretary of state — particularly before there has been a nomination. That’s one of the reasons a letter sent to President Obama this week by 97 House Republicans, challenging his potential choice of U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice for the State Department job, is remarkable.

Another is blatant disregard of established facts. Drawn up by Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.), the letter alleges that “Ambassador Rice is widely viewed as having either willfully or incompetently misled the American public” about the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya. [...]

"Facts" aren't relevant to the rabid right, who still have to get their hate on.

128 Charles Johnson  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:50:27pm

re: #122 wrenchwench

What do you think? Is it a holy image, or just a a naturally occurring discoloration on the wood?

*headdesk*

129 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:51:03pm

re: #125 Gus

Clearly it's a holy image. Here's another one...

Image: virgin_mary_in_wood_2012_11-08.jpg

That one is much better, except it looks like the figure from Edward Munch's 'The Scream' holding a flattened turtle.

Image: 120503_Exp_Scream-EX.jpg.CROP.rectangle3-large.jpg

130 Varek Raith  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:52:00pm

I once saw Tony Danza in my corn flakes.
I think he was drunk.

131 Political Atheist  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:52:15pm

re: #125 Gus

Heh. Somebody should do a "Jesus hack" of facial recognition software on a phone or point and shoot camera. Heh, an app or feature that helps you "find Jesus" anywhere, from the clouds drifting by, to the burnt toast at the diner.

Uh oh that might be a big seller at fundie churches. Never mind.
//

132 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:52:24pm

re: #128 Charles Johnson

*headdesk*

This is what passes for journalism in New Mexico (outside of Albuquerque and Santa Fe).

133 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:52:56pm

re: #120 stabby

Well it's only fair, moonbats like Noam Chomsky have been making up conspiracy theories they've believed for years.

It's a sad fact that crazy attention seekers in the first world often seem to do their best to encourage serious things like violence in the 3rd world. I doubt any of them would even feel guilty if a line could be drawn and their part demonstrated.

Noam Chomsky makes up conspiracy theories? This is news to me. I can see many people that disagree with him but he never resorts to conspiracy theories. In fact he is adamantly against conspiracy theories.

134 A Man for all Seasons  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:54:03pm

Greetings from the middle of black friday. Winston and I have been holed up like doomsday preppers on Hitlers birthday. One reason not to go out is the Oklahoma driver. They have shot up my top ten list of worst drivers in the USA. We sit here in a college town with 40,000 student age drivers. It's stupid crazy.. Other places on my lists.. Boston, LA, SF, Montreal.

135 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:54:15pm

re: #129 wrenchwench

That one is much better, except it looks like the figure from Edward Munch's 'The Scream' holding a flattened turtle.

Image: 120503_Exp_Scream-EX.jpg.CROP.rectangle3-large.jpg

Image: hooded-figure.jpg

136 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:54:49pm

re: #130 Varek Raith

I once saw Tony Danza in my corn flakes.
I think he was drunk.

Either that or you were....

137 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:56:22pm

Ahhh! My favorite time of the year! I will begin the season by shooting out Christmas lights with a pea shooter and telling little children at bus stops there is no Santa! *Cackles*

138 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:56:34pm

re: #130 Varek Raith

I once saw Tony Danza in my corn flakes.
I think he was drunk.

When I was 11 or 12, I was at a slumber party and we had a 'seance' in the back yard. I was sure I saw Dwight Eisenhower in the trees.

I know, wtf?

139 stabby  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:56:45pm

re: #127 freetoken

"Facts" aren't relevant to the rabid right, who still have to get their hate on.

Someone needs to do a thorough analysis and expose on how Republicans are getting primaried from the right, who pays for it, what "issues" drive the primary voters who participate, are they deliberately being manipulated etc etc.

Because I think that may be the weakness in our system that's being exploited to drive the Republican party over the cliff to 3rd world levels of total dysfunction.

Now this might just be a side effect of having a country indoctrinated by Fox news. That may be what creates a population of primary nuts ready to vote in Todd Akins, I don't know.

140 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:57:50pm

re: #138 wrenchwench

When I was 11 or 12, I was at a slumber party and we had a 'seance' in the back yard. I was sure I saw Dwight Eisenhower in the trees.

I know, wtf?

Yeah, but who is this guy?

141 engineer cat  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:57:53pm

re: #129 wrenchwench

That one is much better, except it looks like the figure from Edward Munch's 'The Scream' holding a flattened turtle.

i see fluffy clouds and bunny rabbits

do i have to take my medication today, doctor?

142 jaunte  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:58:10pm

re: #138 wrenchwench

He was a pretty good jumper, for a general.

143 stabby  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:58:58pm

re: #133 Gus

I have to run now. But Chomsky is damn good at embodying what he claims to oppose. Sometimes I think he did his studies of manipulative propaganda so that he could become a one-man propaganda industry. The man's ego must know no bounds.

144 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 2:59:38pm

re: #19 Obdicut

Is it just me, or does this look a little KKK?

Image: 71LNrxTdHBL._SL1500_.jpg

I mean in a funny KKK way.

You'd look cute in that...
Just saying!

145 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:01:43pm

re: #140 Gus

Yeah, but who is this guy?

[Embedded content]

Look like McCain himself. Maybe he had a plaster bust made of himself and she decided it belonged in the backyard. The photo is centered to be sure it was included.

146 freetoken  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:01:58pm

re: #139 stabby

The GOP has been heading down this path for 40 years.

It's not a secret.

After Nixon played his Southern Strategy, Reagan came along and was helped tremendously by an association of religious right activists/broadcasters, the organization of which still remains. Riding piggy back on this increase of the religious right's influence was the resurgence of the paleo-right (some religious, some not), with the likes of Pat Buchanan (who was Nixon's speechwriter) and all his friends (including the Birchers like Ron Paul) coming out more publicly with their beliefs.

The primary nomination process takes lots of bodies, and the activists (of any party) are those legs. So it is hardly surprising that the GOP depends on worker bees from fundamentalist churches to do the groundwork.

147 Usually refered to as anyways  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:04:25pm

Christmas carol from an Aussie talent for athiests.

White Wine In The Sun by Tim Minchin

149 stabby  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:06:01pm

re: #146 freetoken

I wish the religious nuts were the only problem from the right now.

But the almost universal support on the right for destroying Medicare and Social Security and the Affordable Care Act, and bringing our revenue stream down to we'll-have-the-budget-of-Zimbabwe levels isn't coming from churches, I don't think.

150 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:06:38pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

I think so, but I'm not totally sure. It's kind of hard to find details of how stuff like that works in relation to an Associate link.

Giggles, he's not allowed to tell, or Amazon will spank him!

151 freetoken  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:07:21pm

re: #149 stabby

The Bircher right has never gone away in the American politics, though it was sort of swept under the floor for a while.

They still think that Eisenhower was under the influence of communists, and that FDR and before him Wilson rank right up there as traitors.

152 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:08:47pm

re: #124 Shiplord Kirel

Just imagine: People who believe in this sort of thing also operate motor vehicles on the public roads and vote in elections.

And, reproduce!

153 freetoken  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:09:02pm

People are finally taking notice that the UNFCCC picking Qatar to host the next COP was not exactly a good PR move:


Doubts as greenhouse gas leader hosts climate meet

154 RadicalModerate  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:09:16pm

re: #148 Gus

Pope's book on Jesus challenges Christmas traditions

I can see the FoxNews headlines now.

POPE DECLARES WAR ON CHRISTMAS!

155 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:09:48pm

re: #129 wrenchwench

re: #130 Varek Raith

Y'all are killing me!

156 stabby  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:11:08pm

re: #151 freetoken

I wish I wasn't in a big hurry but in short I'd say that they needed the Birchers now because Obama's policies are all perfectly center or center-right so they needed to indoctrinate people into very far right ideas so that they could pretend to disagree with the President on policy not just on his skin color.

The results are absolutely shocking. They're set to destroy the lives of half of the country, because otherwise we have a black president, I mean otherwise the black guy achieved something...

157 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:11:40pm

re: #134 A Man for all Seasons

Blows a BIG WET Raspberry at you both.

158 Gus  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:14:21pm

re: #154 RadicalModerate

I can see the FoxNews headlines now.

Why does the Pope hate Christmas?

//

159 freetoken  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:14:59pm

re: #148 Gus

Pope's book on Jesus challenges Christmas traditions

I'm still a bit amazed that news outlets can run such articles with a straight face.

Anyone who has even casually looked into these things know that what the CNN writer claims people believe is a false assertion on the part of the CNN writer.

160 stabby  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:17:37pm

Well there's one other dynamic.

Paranoid statements about the President aren't just Bircher nonsense, they're also a marker for racism.

The rhetorical policy of the Republicans has been:
Tell OBVIOUS lies about the President (communist, Islamist, Kenyan, radical) because we can't say "n*****". People will know what we mean.

That's also why Romney ran on a platform of lies, the base is used to lies now, and they love lying as a signal of racist rebellion.

It also has a side effect that really dim people and paranoids get sucked into the environment of fear without realizing that it's all lies.

161 darthstar  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:19:28pm

re: #160 stabby

Welcome to LGF, Stabby. You're half of a famous OWS duo around here.

162 RadicalModerate  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:20:30pm

re: #149 stabby

I wish the religious nuts were the only problem from the right now.

But the almost universal support on the right for destroying Medicare and Social Security and the Affordable Care Act, and bringing our revenue stream down to we'll-the-budget-of-Zimbabwe levels isn't coming from churches, I don't think.

To claim that the Birchers and the Religious Right are two completely distinct entities is extremely short-sighted at best. There were a LOT of John Birch Society members in the anti-Civil Rights groups from the 1950s/1960s, and many of those individuals are in leadership positions in the current Christian Reconstructionist movement (see Ralph Reed, Tony Perkins and Pat Buchanan for examples)

163 stabby  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:21:30pm

re: #161 darthstar

Edited once I got the dig...

I see you're a right winger claiming the OWS was where degenerates go to kill and rape...

... if this site allowed flaming you'd so get what you deserve ...
You can read whatever flame you are capable of imagining into this:
*********************************!
I had nothing to do with OWS and know perfectly well that all sorts showed up there, but find your excuse to get your hate on somewhere else. Don't talk to me again.

164 stabby  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:22:01pm

Oh Occupy Wall Street? I have nothing to do with that.

165 allegro  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:30:09pm

re: #164 stabby

Oh Occupy Wall Street? I have nothing to do with that.

If you weren't reading LGF during the height of the OWS thing, you wouldn't understand the reference. "Rapey-stabby" became a meme as a result of one of the commenters obsessed with the occasional misbehavior at OWS protest sites.

166 stabby  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:31:13pm

re: #165 allegro

Reload your page, I already figured it out and changed my answer.

Now enough flaming. Bye.

167 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:34:49pm

re: #163 stabby

Edited once I got the dig...

I see you're a right winger claiming the OWS was where degenerates go to kill and rape...

... if this site allowed flaming you'd so get what you deserve ...
You can read whatever flame you are capable of imagining into this:
*********************************!
I had nothing to do with OWS and know perfectly well that all sorts showed up there, but find your excuse to get your hate on somewhere else. Don't talk to me again.

If you think darth is a right winger, you lack reading comprehension, or comprehensive reading.

168 allegro  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:37:13pm

re: #166 stabby

Reload your page, I already figured it out and changed my answer.

Now enough flaming. Bye.

Downding for leaping to totally wrong conclusions and being an asshole when someone tried to explain the reference to you. No one flamed here but you.

169 A Man for all Seasons  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:41:07pm

re: #157 Dancing along the light of day

Blows a BIG WET Raspberry at you both.

Hope everything is great with you. May your days be filled with on line shopping with free shipping and our lawyers be indicted like Bruiser in the Rainmaker. :)

170 stabby  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:42:27pm

re: #168 allegro

You might be surprised to realize that right wingers of all stripes picked up that meme.

On Harry's Place over in England the right wingers decided that OWS was all rapey-stabby-antisemites. They also love FOX and think that Obama is pure evil. Propaganda travels!

171 allegro  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 3:46:00pm

re: #170 stabby

You might be surprised to realize that right wingers of all stripes picked up that meme.

On Harry's Place over in England the right wingers decided that OWS was all rapey-stabby-antisemites. They also love FOX and think that Obama is pure evil. Propaganda travels!

Not much surprises me about RWNJs. You might be surprised at just how knowledgeable folks are about pretty much any topic you can think of here at LGF. Perhaps you might want to hang around a bit longer and pay attention before making such leaps and being so ugly to people who don't deserve it.

172 Obdicut  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 4:23:51pm

re: #163 stabby

I see you're a right winger claiming the OWS was where degenerates go to kill and rape...

Hah, you thought Darthstar was a right-winger. Oh my fucking god. What the fuck.

173 b_sharp  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 4:28:34pm

re: #172 Obdicut

Hah, you thought Darthstar was a right-winger. Oh my fucking god. What the fuck.

1. Open mouth
2. Jam foot in mouth
3. Jump to conclusion
4. Jam other foot in mouth.

174 Henchman Ghazi-808  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 6:38:19pm

re: #122 wrenchwench

Not Page-worthy:

Our Log of Guadalupe

Looks more like my underwear after a hard night drinking and LOL'ing reading Breitbart.

175 Kaessa  Fri, Nov 23, 2012 7:36:23pm

re: #147 Usually refered to as anyways

Christmas carol from an Aussie talent for athiests.

White Wine In The Sun by Tim Minchin

[Embedded content]

This is my favorite Christmas song.


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 Frank says:

There's no single ideal listener out there who likes my orchestral music, my guitar albums and songs like 'Dyna-Moe-Humm.'