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It’s Monday, So Ben Shapiro Is Outraged About Sandra Fluke Again

“Contraception advocate extraordinaire”
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Tonight, breitbart.com cub reporter Ben Shapiro is outraged and flabbergasted that TIME Magazine plans to honor women’s rights advocate Sandra Fluke: TIME HONORS SANDRA FLUKE AS ‘PERSON OF THE YEAR’ FINALIST!

After calling Ms Fluke a “contraception advocate extraordinaire” and a “condom rights advocate,” Shapiro pretends to be completely innocent of any “war on women” type stuff.

Fluke, of course, is the condom rights advocate turned Georgetown Law School martyr who testified before Congress about the hardships encountered by young female law school students who couldn’t afford to pay for their own birth control pills. Rush Limbaugh ripped her, prompting faux outcry from the left, all the way up to President Obama, who seized on the incident as proof that the right was waging some sort of war on women, as opposed to a battle against pathetic dependency on government.

A “faux outcry from the left?” Yeah, what would ever give anyone the impression that the right has a GIGANTIC problem with women’s rights?

Well, for starters, Sandra Fluke is a perfect example — she testified about a women’s health issue and was promptly demonized in the most graphic and vulgar terms by the right, starting with Rush Limbaugh repeatedly calling her a slut on air, and now continued by sleazy hacks like Ben Shapiro.

The caveman commenters of breitbart.com then proceed to make it even clearer that there’s something deeply wrong with the right, making a mockery of Shapiro’s disingenuous disavowal and jumping right into that good ol’ slut-shaming.

The V stands for an obvious body part that she likes to push. No wonder this country is in the shape it is in. These folks are paraded in Barak Husein’s world.

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Good grief! This is exactly something that Time would do. For the rest of us, she’s just Floozie of the Year.

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Just spread your legs and ask for free contraception and you too can get nominated for “Person of the year”…..How about “Slut of the year” ?

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I’m going to be near Georgetown campus next week. Does anyone know how much Fluke charges for a hand job?

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Nothing. Covered under Obamacare.

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I think they meant to say whore of the year……….What next, aborted fetus of the year? These people are sick!

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I think she rather hot.

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Maybe Playboy will ask her to do a spread?

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The foldout probably isn’t wide enough for that!!!!!!!!!

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They could do it in installments, one acre at a time.

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They must have a catagory of HARLOT OF THE YEAR, huh?????

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You’re thinking of Jane Fonda, Fluke is nominated in either “tramp” or “slut” I think, she’s called herself both though so she could be after both categories.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the American conservative movement.

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119 comments

1 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:03:35pm

Just wait to Fluke runs for office or uses her ninja lawyer/speaking skills to represent some "lefty" cause.

2 Gus  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:05:09pm

Breitbart: irrelevant. Ben Shapiro: even more irrelevant. Bet this really burns old Baby Face up.

3 jaunte  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:05:11pm

Another group of voters the GOP is just going to give up trying for.

Gender Gap Most Evident Among Youngest and Oldest Voter Groups
The gender gap is evident across all age groups. Both men and women younger than 30 prefer Obama, but the margin is significantly greater among young women. Similarly, men and women 65 and older prefer Romney, but the gap is 23 points among older men, compared with five points among older women.
[Link: www.gallup.com...]

4 freetoken  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:05:54pm
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the American conservative movement.

And the new post-election American conservative movement refuses to change.

E.g., also from today:

Santorum’s new cause: opposing the disabled

President-unelect Rick Santorum made his triumphant return to the Capitol on Monday afternoon and took up a brave new cause: He is opposing disabled people.

Specifically, Santorum, joined by Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah), declared his wish that the Senate reject the U.N. Convention on the Rights of Persons With Disabilities — a human rights treaty signed by George W. Bush’s administration and ratified by 126 nations, including China, Russia, Iran, Cuba, Syria and Saudi Arabia.

The former presidential candidate pronounced his “grave concerns” about the treaty, which forbids discrimination against people with AIDS, who are blind, who use wheelchairs and the like. “This is a direct assault on us,” he declared at a news conference.

Lee, a tea party favorite, said he, too, has “grave concerns” about the document’s threat to American sovereignty. “I will do everything I can to block its ratification, and I have secured the signatures of 36 Republican senators, all of whom have joined with me saying that we will oppose any ratification of any treaty during this lame-duck session.”

[...]

UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!!

Hmmm... I wonder what Santorum meant by "us"?

5 Gus  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:11:03pm

re: #4 freetoken

And the new post-election American conservative movement refuses to change.

E.g., also from today:

Santorum’s new cause: opposing the disabled

UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!!

Hmmm... I wonder what Santorum meant by "us"?

Who else but "God fearin', patriotic Muricans."

6 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:11:46pm

Rush Limbaugh: Asshole of the Year.

Oh wait, he's an Asshole Every Year.

7 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:13:11pm

Want to repost this from the last post:

We need a new immigration strategy in the US.

Namely, we should be giving tax incentives for Immigrants to move to the South in order disrupt its culture, and marginalize these people.

In fact, we should offer as part of a legalization package for those who are undocumented immigrants into the nation that they will have back taxes they will pay cut by half if they move to the South.

8 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:14:10pm
faux outcry from the left

Just for the record, it was a legitimate outcry.

9 researchok  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:15:10pm

It is sad to see to what the Conservative movement has devolved.

No room for a lot of us and nowhere to go.

10 freetoken  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:17:34pm

Bill O' puts it bluntly:

Fox's O'Reilly: "Many Americans Are Depressed Because Traditional America Seems To Be Disappearing"

And that is why Ben Shapiro is so upset over Sandra Fluke getting approving recognition. To Shapiro, women having control over their own sexuality is not "traditional America", which was an America when men controlled women in most everything.

11 lostlakehiker  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:24:18pm

re: #7 ProGunLiberal

Want to repost this from the last post:

We need a new immigration strategy in the US.

Namely, we should be giving tax incentives for Immigrants to move to the South in order disrupt its culture, and marginalize these people.

In fact, we should offer as part of a legalization package for those who are undocumented immigrants into the nation that they will have back taxes they will pay cut by half if they move to the South.

We in Texas are already taking a large fraction of immigrants from Mexico. And we're doing a much better job of finding them jobs than California is. And our culture has always included a big Mexican component. It's not much disrupted. Maybe the state would go Democrat faster than it would have otherwise, but that's not an essential cultural aspect. You'll still have people who don't put beans in their chile, who prefer Dr Pepper to Coca-Cola, and who outscore California and Illinois on 8th grade math, demographic by demographic, according to the NAEP (2011 results.) Link

12 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:30:33pm

re: #11 lostlakehiker

Come to think of it, offer those undocumented workers in California the the same deal

And bullcrap on the South being better. The region is beautiful, but with a few very notable exceptions, it is a backwards region more similar to Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

The only reason they perform better is because they feed at the federal trough like no other states.

That story has deepened my anger at the South. We didn't do a Radical Enough Reconstruction.

13 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:32:34pm

I still don't know why the entire right-wing blogosphere went all apeshit over Sandra Fluke. She NEVER EVER demanded "free birth control" for herself, or for anybody. All she said was that a friend of hers could not obtain medication for a condition under her insurance policy because it was classified as "birth control."

Rush, being an ignorant fucking asshole, concluded that "birth control" must be just like the little blue pills that keep his pecker up.

14 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:33:13pm
Fluke, of course, is the condom rights advocate turned Georgetown Law School martyr who testified before Congress about the hardships encountered by young female law school students who couldn’t afford to pay for their own birth control pills.

It's worth reiterating that this is complete and utter bullshit. Georgetown merely negotiated the law insurance policy and made it mandatory for graduate students to pay for it. Actuarially the policy would have cost more in order not to cover basic preemptive care, because covered pregnancies and surgery to remove ovarian cysts cost more than birth control pills would have. The insurance itself was alway paid for by the students directly, with Georgetown's minimal administrative involvement more than covered by tuition.

Fluke wasn't asking for anything but that she and her fellow students be allowed to get sensible coverage for their money, without the school using their position as middleman to insist on inefficient religious caveats that drive up the cost to the student in order to provide less by way of service provided.

15 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:33:26pm

Also, even if Sandra Fluke did ask for a bunch of birth control, so what?

Jeez.

16 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:34:16pm

re: #15 Vicious Babushka

Remember, these nuts have the same damn mentality as the Taliban.

17 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:40:04pm

Also, where the hell did everyone go?

18 TedStriker  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:40:44pm

re: #12 ProGunLiberal

Come to think of it, offer those undocumented workers in California the the same deal

And bullcrap on the South being better. The region is beautiful, but with a few very notable exceptions, it is a backwards region more similar to Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

The only reason they perform better is because they feed at the federal trough like no other states.

That story has deepened my anger at the South. We didn't do a Radical Enough Reconstruction.

Hey, there's more than a few of us Southern Lizards here who are frustrated with some of our fellow citizens, but take it as we can because we like where we live and because we think we can make a difference.

In short, don't be slagging places that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

19 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:42:20pm

re: #18 TedStriker

Good, you will fit in to a new, better South.

20 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:49:21pm

re: #15 Vicious Babushka

Also, even if Sandra Fluke did ask for a bunch of birth control, so what?

Jeez.

Well, obviously she's a slut who needs to be shamed into not wanting to have sex, because sex is bad mmkay? Except for fat old white guys.

21 jamesfirecat  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:54:10pm

re: #12 ProGunLiberal

Come to think of it, offer those undocumented workers in California the the same deal

And bullcrap on the South being better. The region is beautiful, but with a few very notable exceptions, it is a backwards region more similar to Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

The only reason they perform better is because they feed at the federal trough like no other states.

That story has deepened my anger at the South. We didn't do a Radical Enough Reconstruction.

Hating on an entire region of the US gets us nowhere. Demonization of ones does has never solved anything.

22 EPR-radar  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:57:33pm

OT, but on Wikipedia

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

it looks like Romney's share of the national popular vote is presently at 47.4%.

This makes it rather likely that his final vote share will be 47%, if rounded to the nearest percent.

Amusing.

23 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:58:13pm

re: #21 jamesfirecat

Charles Sumner and Sherman were wrong?

24 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:58:14pm

re: #21 jamesfirecat

Hating on an entire region of the US gets us nowhere. Demonization of ones does has never solved anything.

True, but I'm getting a little tired of the same people that demonize the govt and the "takers" are the ones that get more money from the Govt. than the liberal states like NY and CA.

25 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:59:04pm

re: #24 Iwouldprefernotto

Which is why we must consider re-colonization of the South.

26 TedStriker  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 6:59:05pm

re: #19 ProGunLiberal

BTW, I will concede the point that some Southern states receive more federal money than they pay in. I will also concede the point that there's many places in "The South" where ignorance and hatred are still commonplace, but they're going away sooner or later.

It's just that your generalizations set me off, because "The South" is not some monolithic construct, just like every region is not.

The times, they are a-changin', whether the knuckledraggers want it to or not.

27 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:00:38pm

re: #4 freetoken

we will oppose any ratification of any treaty during this lame-duck session.”

Your going to get awfully sick of hearing that over the next four years. Apparently the GOP has decided that it makes the President "sound weaker" and have decided to use it for his entire term rather than just his last year in office. You know the GOP, one thing you can say for them is they stay "on message" as a unified group, so you will be hearing a lot more of this spiel, a lot, tons, loads, masses, gobs, scads, slews, reams, oodles, acres, octopus...

/error, resetting thesaurus mode...

28 jaunte  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:01:54pm

re: #26 TedStriker

There are some people down here who make generalizations about large groups of people based on a random factor, but that seems to be widespread.
Like the federal money coming back:

States receiving the most federal funding per tax dollar paid:
1. New Mexico: $2.63
2. West Virginia: $2.57
3. Mississippi: $2.47
4. District of Colombia: $2.41
5. Hawaii: $2.38
6. Alabama: $2.03
7. Alaska: $1.93
8. Montana: $1.92
9. South Carolina: $1.92
10. Maine: $1.78
[Link: www.motherjones.com...]

29 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:04:17pm

re: #28 jaunte

I see 3 Blue States and D.C.

Rest are all blood red.

30 jaunte  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:06:10pm

re: #29 ProGunLiberal

Are you going to recolonize Maine?

31 TedStriker  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:06:12pm

re: #29 ProGunLiberal

I see 3 Blue States and D.C.

Rest are all blood red.

And of the rest, three of those are "Southern" states (four if you count WVA; however, you couldn't really because they were on the Union side in the Civil War after being carved off from VA, if you look at it that way).

32 BongCrodny  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:09:25pm

From Wiki:

[Shapiro] also wrote a column for the Daily Bruin student newspaper at UCLA from 2000 to 2002. The Daily Bruin suspended Shapiro after he complained on radio talk shows that the newspaper refused to print his column accusing Muslim student groups of supporting terrorism.[2]

2002-2012.

Ten whole years without getting a clue.

33 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:11:19pm

re: #10 freetoken

Bill O' puts it bluntly:

Fox's O'Reilly: "Many Americans Are Depressed Because Traditional America Seems To Be Disappearing"

Translation: Many Americans Are Depressed Because They Would Rather Live In A Mythical Utopic Country That Never Fucking Existed.

34 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:11:40pm

re: #27 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Not even the last year - the technical definition of a "lame duck" president is his last two months in office, between Election Day and Inauguration Day.

35 TedStriker  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:11:49pm

re: #23 ProGunLiberal

Charles Sumner and Sherman were wrong?

Let me ask you this: have you ever been to a National Battlefield or National Military Park?

I have many times...Shiloh can be a very solemn place when there's not a lot of people about it.

36 Mich-again  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:12:45pm

Ben Shapiro and his army of orcs are proving Time magazine's point for nominating Sandra Fluke in the first place.

37 jaunte  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:13:17pm

What Republicans Are Really Up Against: Population Density

....Several years ago, Tom Davis, the former Republican congressman from Northern Virginia, speculated that Republicans were becoming more vulnerable in urban centers because, as he put it, economic development works, meaning as communities become more developed they attract more highly educated and cosmopolitan populations that tend to vote Democratic. National Journal's Ronald Brownstein has shown how creative class counties have trended increasingly Democratic over the past couple of decades.

As Dave Troy puts it, the key factor in this year's election is even simpler — it's all about density. Troy, a founder of several software companies, recently plotted the county-level election results against population density (see the graph below). His conclusion was striking: "98% of the 50 most dense counties voted Obama. 98% of the 50 least dense counties voted for Romney."

38 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:13:46pm

To Bill O 'Traditional America' = White America.
;)

39 Four More Tears  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:14:42pm

Bye bye Intrade. :(

40 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:15:41pm

re: #30 jaunte

Maine is a decent state, with decent people, though politically they are a little loopy.

re: #35 TedStriker

No, and I should go. However this most recent incident was one too many.

41 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:15:49pm

re: #39 Four More Tears

??

42 TedStriker  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:17:02pm
43 Four More Tears  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:17:45pm

re: #41 ProGunLiberal

??

It's closing down for US customers. I feel sorry for people with a lot of money tied up in there. They have to sell off (or buy) shares to exit their positions, and this is going to wreak havoc on the values.

44 jaunte  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:18:04pm

re: #40 ProGunLiberal

Dave Troy makes a good point in that population density piece linked in 37:

"...red states are just underdeveloped blue states. As cities continue to grow in red states, those cities will become more blue, and ultimately, those states will become more purple, and then blue."

45 TedStriker  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:19:15pm

re: #40 ProGunLiberal

No, and I should go. However this most recent incident was one too many.

???

46 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:19:25pm

re: #33 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Translation: Many Americans Are Depressed Because They Would Rather Live In A Mythical Utopic Country That Never Fucking Existed.

They yearn for the days chronicled by Norman Rockwell.

* Except for that one showing the federal marshals escorting the little black girl to school.

47 TedStriker  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:20:50pm

re: #46 wheat-dogghazi

They yearn for the days chronicled by Norman Rockwell.

A hell of an artist, but a poor choice to base what the "Good Ol' Days" were really like.

48 Four More Tears  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:22:47pm
49 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:24:16pm

re: #47 TedStriker

Agreed. Rockwell was painting for the Saturday Evening Post mostly, and it was hardly a counter-cultural rag. But those paintings certainly typify the kind of past many people associate with "traditional America."

Rockwell now would probably be labeled as a commie Muslim fascist atheist, or something, because he really did try to be inclusive of all America, not just WASPs. I used to dismiss him as overly sentimental, but he's a far better artist than some of the RWNJ hacks painting now.

Or that "master of light" dude who recently died.

50 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:25:21pm

re: #45 TedStriker

51 Ian G.  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:25:41pm

One can't help but see the undertones of sexual frustration and resentment in the endless attacks on Fluke from creeps like Ben Shapiro. I'm guessing he wasn't getting a lot of dates in college with his right-wing misogyny, and now he has a platform to have his "revenge" on the "sluts" who dated other guys, but not him.

It's along the same lines of what Bill Maher said about Islamic fanatics just needing to get laid.

52 Four More Tears  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:25:54pm

re: #50 ProGunLiberal

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Jesus...

53 kirkspencer  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:29:18pm

re: #49 wheat-dogghazi

Agreed. Rockwell was painting for the Saturday Evening Post mostly, and it was hardly a counter-cultural rag. But those paintings certainly typify the kind of past many people associate with "traditional America."

Mostly.

And yet, there's Moving In, The Problem We All Live With, and (to my mind most evocative) Murder in Mississippi.

54 TedStriker  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:31:07pm

re: #50 ProGunLiberal

re: #52 Four More Tears

Yeah, I read that story; the sonofabitch's ass should be in jail without bail for caving her face in and damn near killing her.

And, if he were any other color besides lily-white, he would be, shameful as that is.

55 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:31:09pm

re: #53 kirkspencer

Roger that. See my 49.

56 bratwurst  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:37:23pm

re: #40 ProGunLiberal

Maine is a decent state, with decent people, though politically they are a little loopy.

re: #35 TedStriker

No, and I should go. However this most recent incident was one too many.

Is there a nice way for someone to suggest to you that you only get yourself in to trouble here (and elsewhere) by passing judgement on entire states and regions?

57 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:38:14pm

re: #33 watching you tiny alien kittens are

I'm going to follow up on my Norman Rockwell comment. I think this whole "traditional America" BS may come from the kind of history books we used to have back in the day. You know, before the textbooks bothered to mention there were Native Americans, African-Americans, etc., that are also, like, Americans. All I remember from my school days is stories about white Europeans coming to North America and doing all kinds of great shit, except maybe for slavery and that whole Civil War thing. More modern texts are more inclusive, and of course that gets the RWNJ's underwear all up in knots, because it diminishes (they assume) the contributions of white folks to This Great (Christian) Nation™.

In fact, traditional America has always been about a mix of peoples from all over the world. It's why my ancestors came here, and probably why Bill Bo's did, too. Traditional America, in my view, is not just about white folks who happen to go to church every Sunday.

58 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:39:18pm

re: #56 bratwurst

Not sure. Really, the best way for me to deal with it is to run myself down, which I seem to have done now.

59 makeitstop  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:40:17pm

re: #56 bratwurst

Is there a nice way for someone to suggest to you that you only get yourself in to trouble here (and elsewhere) by passing judgement on entire states and regions?

I think you just did it.

60 aagcobb  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:42:04pm

re: #57 wheat-dogghazi

I'm going to follow up on my Norman Rockwell comment. I think this whole "traditional America" BS may come from the kind of history books we used to have back in the day. You know, before the textbooks bothered to mention there were Native Americans, African-Americans, etc., that are also, like, Americans. All I remember from my school days is stories about white Europeans coming to North America and doing all kinds of great shit, except maybe for slavery and that whole Civil War thing. More modern texts are more inclusive, and of course that gets the RWNJ's underwear all up in knots, because it diminishes (they assume) the contributions of white folks to This Great (Christian) Nation™.

In fact, traditional America has always been about a mix of peoples from all over the world. It's why my ancestors came here, and probably why Bill Bo's did, too. Traditional America, in my view, is not just about white folks who happen to go to church every Sunday.

Yes, l.ike O'Reilly saying "traditional Americans" are all about self-reliance, not government assistance, when in fact we have a tradition of government helping people in need going back at least 80 years.

61 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:43:55pm

re: #6 Vicious Babushka

Rush Limbaugh: Asshole of the Year.

Oh wait, he's an Asshole Every Year.

Rush ripped alright, he ripped out a big brain fart that made him look like an asshole.

If conservatives want to oppose Sandra Fluke's ideas, fine, but they should understand that attacking her personally will only hurt them. She'll not be harmed by it.

62 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:45:18pm

re: #61 Dark_Falcon

Why is it fine to oppose the idea that women should have birth control covered by health insurance that they're paying for?

63 aagcobb  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:45:29pm

re: #22 EPR-radar

OT, but on Wikipedia

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

it looks like Romney's share of the national popular vote is presently at 47.4%.

This makes it rather likely that his final vote share will be 47%, if rounded to the nearest percent.

Amusing.

I noticed he has finally passed John McCain in total votes. Still lost by over four million. 2004 is the only time since 1988 that a GOP presidential candidate garnered at least 48% of the vote. The reality is the GOP is the party of 47% of America.

64 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:46:07pm

re: #50 ProGunLiberal

I REALLY don't want to see things like that.
I get that there are abusers in this world, I DO NOT need things like that posted with out a link, and a warning.
PLEASE don't do that again.

65 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:46:45pm

re: #64 Dancing along the light of day

I won't.

Sorry about lack of warning.

66 Four More Tears  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:49:39pm

oh dear god I can't get the Christmas music out of my head...

67 celticdragon  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:50:15pm

re: #4 freetoken

And the new post-election American conservative movement refuses to change.

E.g., also from today:

Santorum’s new cause: opposing the disabled

UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!! UN!!

Hmmm... I wonder what Santorum meant by "us"?

My God.

I don't know where to even start.

68 Four More Tears  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:52:35pm

re: #67 celticdragon

The former senator from Pennsylvania praised Lee for having “the courage to stand up on an issue that doesn’t look to be particularly popular to be opposed.”

Damn, sick burn on the handicapped...

/

69 jaunte  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:53:17pm

re: #66 Four More Tears

How about a little Neil Diamond?

70 Four More Tears  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:54:03pm

re: #69 jaunte

How about a little Neil Diamond?

Not helping.

71 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:55:29pm

Am I the only douche on the Internet who thinks Jeremy Clarkson is a massive toolbag?

72 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:55:29pm

re: #67 celticdragon

My God.

I don't know where to even start.

Benghazi.

73 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:57:23pm

re: #58 ProGunLiberal

Not sure. Really, the best way for me to deal with it is to run myself down, which I seem to have done now.

Glad you did. But I've got to remind you, as someone who likes you, that stuff like that is how you got in trouble before. So I need to ask: Is there anything wrong that's prompting this anger?

74 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:57:38pm

re: #10 freetoken

Bill O' puts it bluntly:

Fox's O'Reilly: "Many Americans Are Depressed Because Traditional America Seems To Be Disappearing"

And that is why Ben Shapiro is so upset over Sandra Fluke getting approving recognition. To Shapiro, women having control over their own sexuality is not "traditional America", which was an America when men controlled women in most everything.

"Traditional America" is code for Christian White People. Always.

75 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:57:59pm

re: #73 Dark_Falcon

Look at #50.

76 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:59:07pm

re: #75 ProGunLiberal

Look at #50.

Is there a news link to the story you can provide me with?

77 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:59:23pm

re: #61 Dark_Falcon

If conservatives want to oppose Sandra Fluke's ideas, fine ...

Just curious, can you articulate or share a single conservative argument against Sandra Fluke's ideas that isn't based on blatant lies?

Pro tip: Georgetown law students pay for their own health insurance.

78 Four More Tears  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:00:18pm

re: #74 Pawn of the Oppressor

"Traditional America" is code for Christian White People. Always.

Thank you, Wingnut Whisperer.

80 kirkspencer  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:02:07pm

re: #66 Four More Tears

oh dear god I can't get the Christmas music out of my head...

So increase the repertoire to a size that you don't get repeats. Add the oddballs like Chiron Beta Prime or Christmas at Ground Zero. Or the non-Christmas Christmas like Christmas is Interesting or a Podsafe Christmas.

If you're going to go mad, do so with style.

81 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:04:56pm

re: #71 ProGunLiberal

Did that fly over everyone's heads?

82 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:05:01pm

re: #79 ProGunLiberal

Mallory Owens, Alabama Lesbian, Allegedly Attacked By Girlfriend's Brother During Thanksgiving Dinner

Second Degree Assault seems too mild a charge. This looks more like Attempted Murder to me.

83 Mich-again  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:05:38pm

re: #82 Dark_Falcon

Second Degree Assault seems too mild a charge. This looks more like Attempted Murder to me.

Ya think??

84 Four More Tears  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:06:29pm

If Fox wants to start cutting interviews short I can help them figure out which ones...

85 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:12:09pm

re: #83 Mich-again

Ya think??

Yea, I do. Hitting someone that hard in the head is in my eyes evidence of either an intent to kill or of a depraved indifference to the life of the person whom the offender attacked. That's attempted murder in my book.

86 Mich-again  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:13:27pm

re: #84 Four More Tears

Fox Host: People who died in Walmart factory fire were thankful for their jobs

Fox Host: People who died in train wreck were thankful for the comfortable seats.

87 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:13:37pm

re: #82 Dark_Falcon

Second Degree Assault seems too mild a charge. This looks more like Attempted Murder to me.

It's a hate crime, she was targeted for being a sexual minority. Every time you condone the endemic anti gay bigotry of your own party this is what you're choosing to turn a blind eye to. It doesn't matter if the candidate you're supporting opposes marriage equality, adoption rights, or wants to actually criminalize homosexuality, whether the bigotry is soft or hard the end result is your tacit approval of viewing and treating gays as less than equal and less than human.

88 sagehen  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:16:45pm

re: #46 wheat-dogghazi

They yearn for the days chronicled by Norman Rockwell.

* Except for that one showing the federal marshals escorting the little black girl to school.

in the unlikely event there's anybody here who hasn't seen that one:

Image: the-problem-we-all-live-with.jpg

89 Henchman Ghazi-808  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:19:34pm

re: #88 sagehen

in the unlikely event there's anybody here who hasn't seen that one:

Image: the-problem-we-all-live-with.jpg

that's a great painting

90 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:20:29pm

Well, we haven't had Snakes on a Plane yet, but....

A scorpion stings a passenger on a flight from Costa Rica to Spain, which forced the sealing of the Iberia airlines Airbus A340 at Madrid's Barajas International Airport.

91 Mich-again  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:21:09pm

re: #85 Dark_Falcon

Yea, I do. Hitting someone that hard in the head is in my eyes evidence of either an intent to kill or of a depraved indifference to the life of the person whom the offender attacked. That's attempted murder in my book.

I agree with the attempted murder charge you mentioned there..

92 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:22:29pm

re: #87 goddamnedfrank

No, Frank, I've never tolerated this kind of lawbreaking. There is no excuse for a man beating up a woman like that, period. Don't try to hang this shithead's actions on me, blame the shithead himself.

93 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:23:49pm

To counterbalance Bill Bo:
Let America Be America Again
by Langston Hughes, 1935

Let America be America again.
Let it be the dream it used to be.
Let it be the pioneer on the plain
Seeking a home where he himself is free.

(America never was America to me.)

Let America be the dream the dreamers dreamed—
Let it be that great strong land of love
Where never kings connive nor tyrants scheme
That any man be crushed by one above.

(It never was America to me.)

O, let my land be a land where Liberty
Is crowned with no false patriotic wreath,
But opportunity is real, and life is free,
Equality is in the air we breathe.

(There's never been equality for me,
Nor freedom in this "homeland of the free.")

Say, who are you that mumbles in the dark?
And who are you that draws your veil across the stars?

I am the poor white, fooled and pushed apart,
I am the Negro bearing slavery's scars.
I am the red man driven from the land,
I am the immigrant clutching the hope I seek—
And finding only the same old stupid plan
Of dog eat dog, of mighty crush the weak.

I am the young man, full of strength and hope,
Tangled in that ancient endless chain
Of profit, power, gain, of grab the land!
Of grab the gold! Of grab the ways of satisfying need!
Of work the men! Of take the pay!
Of owning everything for one's own greed!

I am the farmer, bondsman to the soil.
I am the worker sold to the machine.
I am the Negro, servant to you all.
I am the people, humble, hungry, mean—
Hungry yet today despite the dream.
Beaten yet today—O, Pioneers!
I am the man who never got ahead,
The poorest worker bartered through the years.

Yet I'm the one who dreamt our basic dream
In the Old World while still a serf of kings,
Who dreamt a dream so strong, so brave, so true,
That even yet its mighty daring sings
In every brick and stone, in every furrow turned
That's made America the land it has become.
O, I'm the man who sailed those early seas
In search of what I meant to be my home—
For I'm the one who left dark Ireland's shore,
And Poland's plain, and England's grassy lea,
And torn from Black Africa's strand I came
To build a "homeland of the free."

The free?

Who said the free? Not me?
Surely not me? The millions on relief today?
The millions shot down when we strike?
The millions who have nothing for our pay?
For all the dreams we've dreamed
And all the songs we've sung
And all the hopes we've held
And all the flags we've hung,
The millions who have nothing for our pay—
Except the dream that's almost dead today.

O, let America be America again—
The land that never has been yet—
And yet must be—the land where every man is free.
The land that's mine—the poor man's, Indian's, Negro's, ME—
Who made America,
Whose sweat and blood, whose faith and pain,
Whose hand at the foundry, whose plow in the rain,
Must bring back our mighty dream again.

Sure, call me any ugly name you choose—
The steel of freedom does not stain.
From those who live like leeches on the people's lives,
We must take back our land again,
America!


O, yes,
I say it plain,
America never was America to me,
And yet I swear this oath—
America will be!

Out of the rack and ruin of our gangster death,
The rape and rot of graft, and stealth, and lies,
We, the people, must redeem
The land, the mines, the plants, the rivers.
The mountains and the endless plain—
All, all the stretch of these great green states—
And make America again!

94 Gus  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:31:09pm

Number 9.

95 darthstar  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:32:50pm

From a friend's fb post:

One reeking stoner in Safeway to another: "On a scale of Chuck Norris to George Bush, you're a Mitt Romney.

96 Gus  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:33:03pm

Drones.

97 Gus  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:33:36pm

re: #95 darthstar

From a friend's fb post:

I have not yet begun to reek! BRB

//

98 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:35:19pm

re: #92 Dark_Falcon

No, Frank, I've never tolerated this kind of lawbreaking.

You condone the attitudes and conditions that incubate it. The eighteen year old attacker wasn't raised in a vacuum, he was brought up to view gays as despicable subhumans. In his fucked up warped worldview he was actually protecting his sister from sin and damnation. Such violence is the predictable result of people choosing to vote for bigots and condoning official bigotry, because it perpetuates an environment where such hatred is viewed as acceptable. You say that equal rights aren't an important issue for you. You even go so far as to describe yourself as "anti egalitarian." Own it, it's the least you can do since it's people like Malory who end up paying the price.

99 Mich-again  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:36:33pm

re: #92 Dark_Falcon

No, Frank, I've never tolerated this kind of lawbreaking.

I hear you, but I think this is the point.. once its politically acceptable to demonize a group of people, its a short walk to going out and assaulting them for being demons. The GOP aka Rush Limbaugh obviously feels very comfortable demonizing their political foes but then they always seem surprised when one of the monsters they helped feed for years goes out and acts the part.

100 Four More Tears  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:38:05pm

Lowering taxes and shrinking Big Gov is more important!

101 Gus  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:40:48pm

re: #100 Four More Tears

Lowering taxes and shrinking Big Gov is more important!

There's plenty of government we could get rid of. For instance, we really don't need things like dairy councils doing marketing for cheese corporations.

102 jaunte  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:42:06pm

re: #101 Gus

We might also stop propping up American sugar growers.

103 Gus  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:42:20pm

What you want is smart government. It's not about size. You don't want duplication.

104 Gus  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:42:36pm

re: #102 jaunte

We might also stop propping up American sugar growers.

Was thinking of those too.

105 Gus  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:43:37pm

No more special councils. Revise the Controlled Substances Act of 1970. Add new revenue through that.

106 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:45:12pm

re: #98 goddamnedfrank

One does not have to be egalitarian to believe that all people have the right to not be assaulted. I don't own this shitbird's actions, he does.

107 Gus  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:45:32pm

But I also know why you can't change a lot of this stuff. It's like we are all stuck with some contract.

You have to be able to change.

108 Mich-again  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:46:24pm

re: #103 Gus

What you want is smart government. It's not about size. You don't want duplication.

I use the term "collaborative capitalism". The Government can do a lot with existing power to help businesses be more profitable. Make traffic flow better, make permit applications and regulations more straightforward, help educate and train new employees, simplify health care..

109 darthstar  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:48:05pm

re: #105 Gus

No more special councils. Revise the Controlled Substances Act of 1970. Add new revenue through that.

I can't wait for pot farmers to cash in on the Farm Bill.

110 Gus  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:50:12pm

re: #109 darthstar

I can't wait for pot farmers to cash in on the Farm Bill.

#

111 Gus  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:51:35pm

Chuck Grassley Tweet. No one got it. :D

112 Gus  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:52:56pm
113 jaunte  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:53:56pm

About Ben Shapiro, Bill O'Reilly, and many others:

The strategic alliance of snake-oil vendors and conservative true believers points up evidence of another successful long march, of tactics designed to corral fleeceable multitudes all in one place—and the formation of a cast of mind that makes it hard for either them or us to discern where the ideological con ended and the money con began.

…But the New Right's business model was dishonest in more than its revenue structure. Its very message—the alarmist vision of White Protestant Civilization Besieged that propelled fundraising pitch after fundraising pitch—was confabulatory too…And, in an intersection that is utterly crucial, this same theology of fear is how a certain sort of commercial appeal—a snake-oil-selling one—works as well.
[Link: www.motherjones.com...]

Kevin Drum at Mother Jones reviews a Rick Perlstein essay at The Baffler about right-wing direct mail pitches.

114 Gus  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:56:28pm

re: #113 jaunte

About Ben Shapiro, Bill O'Reilly, and many others:

Kevin Drum at Mother Jones reviews a Rick Perlstein at The Baffler about right-wing direct mail pitches.

Aye, they're all so crazy.

115 Gus  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:58:07pm

I suddenly feel like Ed Sullivan.

116 Flavia  Mon, Nov 26, 2012 9:47:10pm

re: #46 wheat-dogghazi

They yearn for the days chronicled by Norman Rockwell.

* Except for that one showing the federal marshals escorting the little black girl to school.

And the one showing people of all colors and religions praying together, because they respect each other's differences.

Heck, I yearn for THAT Norman Rockwell's America!

(Having said that, Shapiro makes me feel old, because all I can think of when I look at him is "snot-nosed kid"!!)

117 Bulworth  Tue, Nov 27, 2012 7:40:51am

Stay classy, RWNJ.

118 Cap'n Magic  Tue, Nov 27, 2012 8:45:51am

re: #43 Four More Tears

Yeah, but look which arm is filing suit.

119 Godisdeadandburied  Tue, Nov 27, 2012 3:59:18pm

re: #10 freetoken

Who is a Mary-worshiping mick like O'Reilly to complain about "traditional America."


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