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Huge Saturn Vortex Swirls in Stunning NASA Photos

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Huge Vortex Storm on Saturn

Amazing new photos from NASA’s Cassini probe orbiting Saturn reveal a dizzying glimpse into a monster storm raging on the ringed planet’s north pole.

Cassini took the spectacular Saturn storm photos yesterday (Nov. 27) and relayed it back to Earth the same day, mission scientists said in a statement. The pictures reveal a swirling storm reminiscent of the recent Hurricane Sandy that recently plagued our own planet.

The tempest is located in a strange hexagonal cloud vortex at Saturn’s north pole that was first discovered by the Voyager spacecraft in the early 1980s, and sighted more closely by Cassini since then. The strange six-sided feature, which is nearly 15,000 miles (25,000 kilometers) across, is thought to be formed by the path of a jet stream flowing through the planet’s atmosphere.

“Cassini’s recent excursion into inclined orbits has given mission scientists a vertigo-inducing view of Saturn’s polar regions, and what to our wondering eyes has just appeared: roiling storm clouds and a swirling vortex at the center of Saturn’s famed northern polar hexagon,”

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478 comments

1 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:12:36pm

A Penny For NASA. (1% of the budget) Invest in the future.

2 TedStriker  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:14:17pm

The scale, scope, and power of stuff like this just goes to show that, in the grand scheme of things, Earth (and humanity) isn't jack shit. That's not to say that we shouldn't be doing a better job with the stewardship of our own little blue space marble, but we're just a very, very, very small part of a much larger universe.

In this thing called existence, we're just along for the ride.

3 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:17:18pm

And Glen Beck's pee is really beer?

At the end of the segment, he implies that the mason jar does not actually contain his urine, but a bottle of Dos Equis beer—

Somehow, I missed that in the bru-ha-ha.

How do the theocrats explain the Saturn Vortex?

4 TedStriker  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:18:35pm

re: #3 Holidays are Family Fun Time

And Glen Beck's pee is really beer?

Somehow, I missed that in the bru-ha-ha.

How do the theocrats explain the Saturn Vortex?

The Most Interesting Man in the World would bitchslap Glenn Beck...with his cock.

Then, after Beck ran off sobbing, TMIMITW would do cock pushups.

/Tenacious D

5 TedStriker  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:21:19pm

re: #3 Holidays are Family Fun Time

And Glen Beck's pee is really beer?

Somehow, I missed that in the bru-ha-ha.

How do the theocrats explain the Saturn Vortex?

Don't you mean brew-ha-ha?

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6 dragonath  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:21:40pm

re: #3 Holidays are Family Fun Time

And Glen Beck's pee is really beer?

Ok, piss beer.

7 Stanghazi  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:22:25pm

re: #3 Holidays are Family Fun Time

And Glen Beck's pee is really beer?

Somehow, I missed that in the bru-ha-ha.

How do the theocrats explain the Saturn Vortex?

Obama would approve, and chuckle I'm sure.

What a huckster.

8 TedStriker  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:22:41pm

re: #6 dragonath

Ok, piss beer.

I thought that distinction went to Bud, Miller, and Coors?

9 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:23:12pm
10 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:24:56pm

You know, there oughtta be a law.

If you list pee on ebay, what you should be selling is pee --not beer.

Fraudulent Miss-Labelling is a big, big deal.--and an expensive date in court.

11 Lidane  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:26:29pm

Since it's downstairs and some folks might miss it, here's a PSA to pass on to your friends and relatives that are posting that fake "privacy notice" on Facebook:

Facebook Law for Idiots

:)

12 dragonath  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:28:05pm

re: #8 TedStriker

Ok, I guess Dos Equis isn't that bad.

13 freetoken  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:37:41pm

The following link I've had open for over a day now, still trying to figure out how much credit to give it:

Scientists Analyse Millions of News Articles

A study led by academics at the University of Bristol’s Intelligent Systems Laboratory and the School of Journalism at Cardiff University have used Artificial Intelligence (AI) algorithms to analyse 2.5 million articles from 498 different English-language online news outlets over ten months. The researchers found that:

As expected, readability measures show that online tabloid newspapers are more readable than broadsheets and use more sentimental language. Among 15 US and UK newspapers, the Sun is the easiest to read, comparable to the BBC’s children’s news programme, Newsround, while the Guardian is the most difficult to read. Sports’ and ‘Arts’ were the most readable topics while ‘Politics’ and ‘Environment’ were the least readable.

The Sun is also the most likely to use adjectives with sentiment, while the Wall Street Journal uses the fewest emotional adjectives.

[...]

The most appealing topics to online readers were Disasters, Crime, and the Environment while the least appealing topics were Fashion, Markets and Prices. The researchers also found that the popular articles tend to be more readable and more linguistically subjective.

[...]

The research paper is here:
[Link: patterns.enm.bris.ac.uk...]

Oh, and I'm not surprised The Sun was the easiest to read among the newspapers chosen for analysis. Indeed, certain segments of The Sun require absolutely no literacy at all.

14 jaunte  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:39:31pm

re: #12 dragonath

"Stay continent, my friends."

15 TedStriker  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:40:03pm

re: #13 freetoken

The following link I've had open for over a day now, still trying to figure out how much credit to give it:

Scientists Analyse Millions of News Articles

The research paper is here:
[Link: patterns.enm.bris.ac.uk...]

Oh, and I'm not surprised The Sun was the easiest to read among the newspapers chosen for analysis. Indeed, certain segments of The Sun require absolutely no literacy at all.

They do, however, require a free hand though...

///

16 JAFO  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:44:02pm

and in related news...

Most Massive Black Hole Found By Texas Telescope

Astronomers using a telescope in the Lone Star state have measured what they believe is the most massive black hole yet recorded, The University of Texas at Austin (UT) announced on Wednesday.

The black hole, which lies at the center of the galaxy NGC 1277, located some 220 million light-years from Earth, is so big it is difficult to comprehend: It is 17 billion solar masses, or 17 billion times the mass of our Sun, and makes up 14 percent of its relatively small host galaxy’s entire mass. The galaxy in question is about 10 percent the size of our Milky Way, for reference.

The black hole is so wide that it would extend well past the orbit of Neptune around our Sun were it transposed to our Solar System — subsuming most of it — as the following illustration from UT indicates:

Image: black-hole-most-massive-ill-s.jpg

17 Charles Johnson  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:48:39pm

We now have true hyphenation, thanks to this Webmonkey CSS tip:

[Link: www.webmonkey.com...]

18 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:51:01pm

re: #11 Lidane

Since it's downstairs and some folks might miss it, here's a PSA to pass on to your friends and relatives that are posting that fake "privacy notice" on Facebook:

Facebook Law for Idiots

:)

LOVED IT AND POSTED IT TO MY FACEBOOK

LOL

19 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:51:23pm

re: #3 Holidays are Family Fun Time

And Glen Beck's pee is really beer?

Somehow, I missed that in the bru-ha-ha.

Glenn Beck is not going to let anyone get his pee, they might test it to find out what the hell is wrong with him/which medications he is currently taking.

How do the theocrats explain the Saturn Vortex?

You mean those aren't just "lights in the firmament" up there? Seriously though, if Earth is as singularly important and central to everything as Christian theology claims then why did God even bother with "details" on the other planets? You would think they would all just be like big hollow paper mache models for us to only look at in the night sky from Earth.

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20 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:51:48pm
21 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:52:21pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

We now have true hyphenation, thanks to this Webmonkey CSS tip:

[Link: www.webmonkey.com...]

Do I need to know this?

I mean, are you posting for informational purposes, or should I study?

22 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:52:54pm

re: #20 Holidays are Family Fun Time

in Texas?

No, I guess Texas isn't really 4 Light-Years away. It just seems that way.

23 freetoken  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:54:00pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

Testing...

Forget the Age of Aquarius - it's now the Season of Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.

24 freetoken  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:54:20pm

Hmmm... Chrome doesn't do hyphens yet.

25 jaunte  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:56:01pm

re: #16 JAFO

Is our universe inside a black hole? An inside look at new theory

According to [Poplawski's] research, this is how torsion would work at the birth of our universe: gravitational attraction would overpower torsion repulsive forces, but torsion would eventually become strong enough to prevent matter to compress into an infinite density and instead it becomes finite density. The dense state leads to vast production of particles, which would increase the mass of black holes. With the boosting number of particles with spin, the result would be higher levels of space-time torsion. The repulsive torsion would end the collapse and create a “big bounce.” Rapid recoil may have led to universe expansion and torsion mechanism suggests black holes gave birth to baby universes inside.
[Link: digitaljournal.com...]

26 Charles Johnson  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:56:52pm

re: #21 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Do I need to know this?

Chances are, you don't think about the hyphenation in books and magazines you read every day, but for us typography geeks it's extremely cool to finally have the same tools for enhancing readability on the web.

27 Charles Johnson  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:57:27pm

re: #24 freetoken

Hmmm... Chrome doesn't do hyphens yet.

No - Chrome is lagging behind on this one.

28 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:59:16pm

re: #25 jaunte

Is our universe inside a black hole? An inside look at new theory

Wait --I thought there was a black hole in every universe. Does this mean there is a black hole within a black hole?

You know MS patient often have what they call black holes in their brains that show-up on MRI's. Although I often tell my husband this explains much of his behavior (he has MS) as a joke --now I'm wondering.

I mean the universe has black holes in black holes and our brains can have black wholes --are there entire universes in our brains as well?

I know, it's an riddle wrapped in an enigma . . . .

29 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:00:19pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

Chances are, you don't think about the hyphenation in books and magazines you read every day, but for us typography geeks it's extremely cool to finally have the same tools for enhancing readability on the web.

I just remember in typing class (yes, I am that old) I avoided hyphenation at all costs.

I'm glad you have an enhancement that pleases you.

30 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:03:39pm

re: #25 jaunte

Is our universe inside a black hole? An inside look at new theory

So the "Big Bang" was really more akin to a black hole throwing up?

///

31 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:04:21pm

re: #10 Holidays are Family Fun Time

You know, there oughtta be a law.

If you list pee on ebay, what you should be selling is pee --not beer.

Fraudulent Miss-Labelling is a big, big deal.--and an expensive date in court.

I'm laughing at the prospect of some guy suing for damages because it was beer not urine. As we all know you just rent beer.

32 jaunte  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:05:26pm

re: #30 watching you tiny alien kittens are

It might be that our whole idea of "inside" and "outside" isn't supported by the universe.

33 freetoken  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:08:35pm

The full silvery moon lightly veiled by high clouds - it's a beautiful night here in San Diego county.

Yet the hour is only 7pm. It seems like it's the middle of the night.

35 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:14:15pm

re: #34 Stanghazi

My Children's School was Vandalized with Obama Hate Graffiti - Picture in Post

Vandalizing schools makes one a douche. Vandalizing a school with graffiti that literally calls Barack Obama the Anti-Christ makes one a douche-canoe.

36 Stanghazi  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:16:27pm

re: #35 Dark_Falcon

Vandalizing schools makes one a douche. Vandalizing a school with graffiti that literally calls Barack Obama the Anti-Christ makes one a douche-canoe.

At a Catholic school to boot!

37 Bubblehead II  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:22:00pm

Night Lizards. And Thank You.

38 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:25:19pm

re: #36 Stanghazi

At a Catholic school to boot!

Yup--nice g-dly example!

I wonder what the penance will be.

39 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:26:16pm

re: #36 Stanghazi

At a Catholic school to boot!

Doesn't mean it was a student, though it is clear whoever did it is a world-class ass.

40 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:27:34pm

Somethings just don't translate. Like humour and sarcasm.

41 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:28:04pm

re: #8 TedStriker

I thought that distinction went to Bud, Miller, and Coors?

breakfast beer, that's what i call it

42 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:28:39pm

I need more coffee.

bbiab

43 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:31:09pm

re: #34 Stanghazi

My Children's School was Vandalized with Obama Hate Graffiti - Picture in Post

Ostrogoths Promise To Barbarically Behead Any Vandals Caught With Spray Paint

langobards ask in on action

44 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:33:14pm

re: #43 engineer cat

Ostrogoths Promise To Barbarically Behead Any Vandals Caught With Spray Paint

langobards ask in on action

Sounds like fun. May I please have the role of Justinian in this drama?

45 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:36:40pm

Lulz - angry misogynist makes a funny...

Yet More from our Brave Women in Uniform

It’s time men finally recognized that this isn’t our country any longer. Let the girls play their games, take all the money, call themselves soldiers and so forth. The sooner it falls apart the better for us.

Now that we’re calling people who are innately better suited to giving hummers than to driving in them soldiers, it’s time to call it quits. I just hope we can decommission the nukes fast enough to prevent a global catastrophe.

They need to change the name of that site from "The Spearhead" to "The Dickheads" it would be much more accurately descriptive.

46 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:41:45pm

re: #45 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Lulz - angry misogynist makes a funny...

Yet More from our Brave Women in Uniform

They need to change the name of that site from "The Spearhead" to "The Dickheads" it would be much more accurately descriptive.

He's bitter because 1st. Lt. Farrell and Capt. Bedell are good looking women and he knows he would have a chance with either of them. So he decides to hate women instead of making himself more attractive to them. #Loser

47 jaunte  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:43:37pm

re: #45 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Wow, what a bunch of sadsack victims.
[Link: www.the-spearhead.com...]

48 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:45:11pm

Good Night to my fellow Lizards.

49 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:46:13pm

re: #45 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Lulz - angry misogynist makes a funny...

Yet More from our Brave Women in Uniform

They need to change the name of that site from "The Spearhead" to "The Dickheads" it would be much more accurately descriptive.

Oh brother. What kind of mental midget wrote that? First he says we can't say we should not let them go because I'm afraid how people will react to me. Then he says we can't say we should let them go because I'm afraid how people will react to me. Finally, he gives up and say oh fuck let them go and die anyway.

50 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:48:47pm

re: #47 jaunte

Wow, what a bunch of sadsack victims.
[Link: www.the-spearhead.com...]

That makes my head hurt in an instant. What planet are these dudes from?

51 jaunte  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:48:55pm

re: #49 Gus

Someone ask for a mental midget?

52 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:49:04pm

Planet...

Men's Rights!

53 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:49:39pm

re: #51 jaunte

Someone ask for a mental midget?

[Embedded content]

Pat can talk to people that live in dumpsters.

54 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:52:25pm

re: #47 jaunte

Wow, what a bunch of sadsack victims.
[Link: www.the-spearhead.com...]

Cree-Aye-Shun-Ism!

[Link: www.the-spearhead.com...]

55 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:53:33pm

"One of our local petty luminaries, Bill Nye..."

Bet that burns him. Bill Nye is petty I tell you, he's petty!

56 jaunte  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:54:04pm

re: #54 Gus

Whoof. I am now dumber for having read that.

57 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:54:34pm

re: #49 Gus

Oh brother. What kind of mental midget wrote that? First he says we can't say we should not let them go because I'm afraid how people will react to me. Then he says we can't say we should let them go because I'm afraid how people will react to me. Finally, he gives up and say oh fuck let them go and die anyway.

"Is this true?"

"Yes, it's true. That Spearhead writer has no dick."

58 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:54:48pm

re: #56 jaunte

Whoof. I am now dumber for having read that.

Who are these weirdos? I've never seen anything like this before.

59 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:55:13pm

re: #50 Gus

That makes my head hurt in an instant. What planet are these dudes from?

Scroll down to the second comment by TFH at my link, far too nasty to post here but it pretty much tells you all you need to know about their particular style of misogyny.

60 jaunte  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:55:24pm

re: #58 Gus

All I know is, someone's spending a lot of time polishing his spearhead.

61 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:55:36pm

The Spearhead
@spearheadmag
Premier Online Men's Magazine

62 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:56:18pm

re: #57 Dark_Falcon

"Is this true?"

"Yes, it's true. That Spearhead writer has no dick."

Get him DF!

:D

63 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 7:59:12pm

re: #55 Gus

"One of our local petty luminaries, Bill Nye..."

Bet that burns him. Bill Nye is petty I tell you, he's petty!

They're just stumbling around, unable to write properly since Bill Nye blinded them with science:

64 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:00:21pm

re: #62 Gus

Get him DF!

:D

I don't think it wise to poke at that sort of gun-stroking wingnut.

65 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:01:44pm

re: #64 Dark_Falcon

I don't think it wise to poke at that sort of gun-stroking wingnut.

Really? He struck me as some confused weakling. Didn't see any gunz.

66 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:02:05pm

re: #45 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Lulz - angry misogynist makes a funny...

Yet More from our Brave Women in Uniform

They need to change the name of that site from "The Spearhead" to "The Dickheads" it would be much more accurately descriptive.

wonder how much he as to pay to get a hummer?

67 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:03:52pm

re: #54 Gus

Cree-Aye-Shun-Ism!

[Link: www.the-spearhead.com...]

ah! explains much

68 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:04:49pm

re: #65 Gus

Really? He struck me as some confused weakling. Didn't see any gunz.

Chalk it up to intuition, if you wish. I just don't feel comfortable corresponding with that nutcase, even to denounce him.

69 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:04:59pm

re: #65 Gus

Really? He struck me as some confused weakling. Didn't see any gunz.

Internet makes a lot of arm-chair quarterbacks think they actually have a ball or two.

70 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:05:03pm

What in the hell is he trying to say...I don't even???

I suspect that a lot of these women want to join the military because they get gina tingles from Islam, but don’t want to pay their own airfare and lodging to go to a Muslim land.

Joining the military is the perfect way for them to immerse themselves in an environment of tingly Islam, with no out-of-pocket costs to them.

It makes sense. Join the military, and the taxpayer pays for you to be delivered to where you get gina tingles.

Huh? Why? Wha? I am effing lost on this one, really. :(

71 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:06:12pm

re: #70 watching you tiny alien kittens are

What in the hell is he trying to say...I don't even???

Huh? Why? Wha? I am effing lost on this one, really. :(

Gina tingles. Ah, OK, I get it. Damn, this guy's the real deal. He's a 100 percent misogynist.

72 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:06:22pm

re: #66 Holidays are Family Fun Time

wonder how much he as to pay to get a hummer?

Good one. :)
Almost certainly true also. ;)

73 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:07:46pm

Wow.

74 darthstar  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:08:14pm

re: #66 ggt

wonder how much he as to pay to get a hummer?

Guys like that don't get hummers. They only dream about them on the internet.

75 jaunte  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:08:18pm

re: #71 Gus

No one touches his spear but dream girls.

76 prairiefire  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:08:44pm

re: #51 jaunte

re: #50 Gus

re: #63 Dark_Falcon

Thank goodness for intelligent men lizards!

77 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:10:06pm

re: #71 Gus

Gina tingles .

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

OMG!

What a cretin.

deep breathe

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

78 darthstar  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:10:31pm

re: #64 Dark_Falcon

I don't think it wise to poke at that sort of gun-stroking wingnut.

Well...just remember to pat him on the haunches, as you would a horse, so you don't get kicked.

79 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:11:49pm

re: #78 darthstar

Well...just remember to pat him on the haunches, as you would a horse, so you don't get kicked.

If he were a horse, he'd have long since been shipped to the glue works.

80 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:13:24pm
81 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:14:26pm

Because, unlike men, women are totally controlled by their titillating gina tingles.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAA

hahahahahhahhaa

omg, my abdomen hurts

82 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:16:14pm

gina tingles

yet another expression that seems to me to be unlikely to originate with anybody who has managed to escape high school

83 Charles Johnson  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:16:42pm
84 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:17:01pm
85 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:17:34pm

re: #82 engineer cat

gina tingles

yet another expression that seems to me to be unlikely to originate with anybody who has managed to escape high school

Pot calling the kettle black.

Remember, when you point the finger at someone, there are 3 pointing back at you.

This guy is projecting and it's soooooo obvious.

I'm out of breath, tired out and my stomach hurts.

All I can do is giggle.

86 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:18:05pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Charles Johnson: Fanatical Darwinist


/I don't get it either.

87 jaunte  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:18:59pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

Must be kind of cramped there, inside his head.

88 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:19:03pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

More deep thinkers.

89 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:19:12pm

re: #81 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Because, unlike men, women are totally controlled by their titillating gina tingles.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAA

hahahahahhahhaa

omg, my abdomen hurts

Is this some weird fetish women have that I should know about? Does the thought of going to a live in a crappy combat zone base in Afghanistan make some of them sexually aroused or something?

///

90 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:19:38pm

Because it is so hard for women to get into the ME any other way than the military route. I mean, everyday, there are news stories about women lined-up outside the Syrian and Saudi embassies, trying to get visas. . . .ME universities won't hand out student visas anymore, say they are overfull and can't take any more Western Women looking for an MRS degree.

91 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:22:11pm

Isn't it interesting those who profess evolution over creation are the same ones who want to save every animal? Mixed messages!

uh i don't get it

evolution kills more animals than creation?

92 freetoken  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:23:26pm

As if we hadn't enough evidence that post-election "conservatism" is really not any different that pre-election, note these two exhibits, one a letter to the editor (in Texas), another a syndicated columnist, both expressing concern about what Obama will do next:

Letter: Too many questions about what Obama will do next

[...]

I did not expect miracles had Mitt Romney been elected, but I do fear what President Barack Obama will now do.

Why? Is it not enough Obama has run roughshod over the religious beliefs of Christians?

Ask your U.S. senator to supply you with a list of the executive orders Obama has recently issued. Without a doubt, I believe with the stroke of a pen he has obtained powers for himself that no president should be able to claim.

[...]

John Grabber

Umbarger

EXECUTIVE ORDERS!!

**************

Is Obama going to blow it a second time? (Jennifer Rubin, The Washington Post)

If you were under the impression President Obama learned something from his mishandling of the debt-ceiling negotiations in 2011, [...] the last day or so should disabuse you of any optimism. Once again Obama can’t be troubled to put a counteroffer on the table. Once again he’s going out to the voters (when has he ever convinced them on a point of policy?). Once again he and the liberal special-interest groups have whipped themselves into a frenzy, certain that they can threaten to take us over the fiscal cliff. (Remember when the media howled, accusing the GOP of wanting the country to default in 2011?) It is a peculiar sort of regard for the middle class that delights in throwing them over the tax cliff, so long as the rich go, too.

[...]

Republicans have acted responsibly. They essentially have embraced the rough outline of the Simpson-Bowles deal: more revenue via tax reform, plus entitlement and discretionary spending cuts. That is the bipartisan formula that every commission, committee and “gang of [fill in the number]” has suggested.

[...]

"Republicans have acted responsibly". Hmmm, I wonder in what universe Ms. Rubin resides? It was the Republicans (GWB, and in the House) that pushed for inexcusable tax reductions in parallel with pushing long and very expensive wars, the combination of which has added trillions of dollars to the total debt.

93 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:23:32pm

re: #89 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Is this some weird fetish women have that I should know about? Does the thought of going to a live in a crappy combat zone base in Afghanistan make some of them sexually aroused or something?

///

Best kept sekrit in the Western World.

The real reason women dye their hair blonde is to attract Arabic men so they can go back with them and be held captive in their palaces with bowls of jewels and silks. Have sex with dark hairy men and well, you know get old, fat and then be disguarded for a younger blonder wife.

94 prairiefire  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:23:41pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

Is RSM trying to be hip in that avatar photo? Because he looks like Freddy Kruger.

95 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:24:35pm

re: #92 freetoken

As if we hadn't enough evidence that post-election "conservatism" is really not any different that pre-election, note these two exhibits, one a letter to the editor (in Texas), another a syndicated columnist, both expressing concern about what Obama will do next:

Letter: Too many questions about what Obama will do next

EXECUTIVE ORDERS!!

**************

Is Obama going to blow it a second time? (Jennifer Rubin, The Washington Post)

"Republicans have acted responsibly". Hmmm, I wonder in what universe Ms. Rubin resides? It was the Republicans (GWB, and in the House) that pushed for inexcusable tax reductions in parallel with pushing long and very expensive wars, the combination of which has added trillions of dollars to the total debt.

Executive Orders are public record and easily obtained on the White House website. NO need to call your Senator.

96 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:25:36pm

re: #87 jaunte

Must be kind of cramped there, inside his head.

Charles brought along an electric guitar, and is playing this inside RSM's head:

97 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:25:45pm
98 prairiefire  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:26:12pm

re: #76 prairiefire

re: #50 Gus

re: #63 Dark_Falcon

Thank goodness for intelligent men lizards!

And the apparent majority of American men who are voting.

99 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:28:11pm

I can't believe it! I didn't win Powerball! What the heck. Now I'm out 2 dollars. Gone for good! I am ruined!

100 freetoken  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:28:37pm

This thing is getting so big it would even make a splash in Mitt Romney's bank account:


$580 million Powerball numbers drawn

101 freetoken  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:28:58pm

Everybody wants to be part of the 1%, don't they?

102 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:29:37pm

Boom!

103 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:29:40pm

re: #93 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Best kept sekrit in the Western World.

The real reason women dye their hair blonde is to attract Arabic men so they can go back with them and be held captive in their palaces with bowls of jewels and silks. Have sex with dark hairy men and well, you know get old, fat and then be discarded for a younger blonder wife.

I am, of course, exaggerating old myths about Arabian princes - Queen Noor and others have been very happy. We've also heard a lot of horror stories. I personally know a person who went thru a terrible custody battle and lost to a ex-husband in an Islamic country.

104 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:30:14pm

Shwing!

[Sizzle.]

105 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:31:24pm

I have presented him a philosophical conundrum. I'm sure this will leave him no choice but to refer to a certain part of my anatomy!

106 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:31:46pm

re: #100 freetoken

This thing is getting so big it would even make a splash in Mitt Romney's bank account:

$580 million Powerball numbers drawn

Ah, well, wasted that $2 ;)

107 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:31:50pm

re: #105 Gus

I have presented him a philosophical conundrum. I'm sure this will leave him no choice but to refer to a certain part of my anatomy!

Do you tingle there?

108 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:32:07pm

re: #94 prairiefire

Is RSM trying to be hip in that avatar photo? Because he looks like Freddy Kruger.

That's who it was, I knew that picture reminded me of someone, well either him or Jed Clampett...

/

109 jaunte  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:32:12pm
...Former Virginia congressman Tom Davis today attributed President Obama’s reelection, in part, to the voter turnout of “underclass minorities.”
[Link: www.salon.com...]

Morlocks!

110 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:32:28pm

re: #106 William Barnett-Lewis

Ah, well, wasted that $2 ;)

Yeah, but after taxes, what you have left?

111 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:33:19pm

re: #109 jaunte

Morlocks!

The poor white folks on food stamps in the States he carried?

112 jaunte  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:33:31pm

re: #108 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Which one had the green teeth?

113 prairiefire  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:34:33pm

re: #103 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Horror stories! Horror stories! How about the Saudi princess who was beheaded for marrying a commoner of her own free will in the late 1970's. The Saudi's got PBS to axe the documentary on her. The Saudi's claimed it was humane because they drugged her before they lopped off her head. It happened, for real 1978 or 79, the bastards.

114 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:34:54pm

re: #110 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Yeah, but after taxes, what you have left?

More than I have now ...

115 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:38:58pm

re: #109 jaunte

Morlocks!

No, if they were Morlocks we'd eat them.

116 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:42:05pm

re: #115 Dark_Falcon

No, if they were Morlocks we'd eat them.

No that was the Eloi, the Morlocks ate them.

117 freetoken  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:42:18pm

One aspect of evolution - the mutation of genetic material - has definitely increased in humans the past 5000 years:

Past 5,000 years prolific for changes to human genome

[...]

A study published today in Nature3 now helps to clarify when many of those rare variants arose. Researchers used deep sequencing to locate and date more than one million single-nucleotide variants — locations where a single letter of the DNA sequence is different from other individuals — in the genomes of 6,500 African and European Americans. Their findings confirm early work by Akey1 suggesting that the majority of variants, including potentially harmful ones, were picked up during the past 5,000–10,000 years. Researchers also saw the genetic stamp of the diverging migratory history of the two groups.

[...]

Akey and his colleagues were able to dig out genetic variants occurring in less than 0.1% of the sample population — a resolution that is a full order of magnitude finer than that achieved in previous studies, [...]

Of 1.15 million single-nucleotide variants found among more than 15,000 protein-encoding genes, 73% in arose the past 5,000 years, the researchers report.

[...]

Not enough generations have passed, or sub-populations been isolated from inter-breeding, for there to have been any substantial selection on these variations, I suppose.

118 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:44:34pm

re: #116 watching you tiny alien kittens are

No that was the Eloi, the Morlocks ate them.

The Lizard Army is to Morlocks what Morlocks are to Eloi.

119 prairiefire  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:44:57pm

re: #117 freetoken

The discovery of evolution in a lab:[Link: www.npr.org...]

120 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:47:30pm
121 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:49:02pm

re: #119 prairiefire

The discovery of evolution in a lab:[Link: www.npr.org...]

Impossible! Those scientist are lying, trying to turn people away from God!!1 They're agents of Satan!!11 BURN THEM!!!111

122 freetoken  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:49:20pm

And, this being the US, creationist efforts never end, and the Atlantic has yet another piece on Kentucky's now famous Ark:

A Boat of Biblical Proportions

[...]


As for Ark Encounter, so far, land has been purchased, design work has been completed, and Amish builders from Indiana have been enlisted for construction. The ark is expected to cost about $21 million, of which the ministry has raised more than $8 million (supporters can sponsor a peg for $100; a “Lifetime Charter Boarding Pass” is available for $3,000 per family). When I asked Zovath whether his project was really achievable—whether he could safely and efficiently fabricate a multimillion-dollar tourist attraction to God’s specifications, using only wooden pegs, planks, beams, and whatever else might have been available to Noah—he didn’t hesitate.

“It’s certainly possible,” he said. “It was done a few thousand years ago.”

So there.

123 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:49:58pm

re: #117 freetoken

One aspect of evolution - the mutation of genetic material - has definitely increased in humans the past 5000 years:

Past 5,000 years prolific for changes to human genome

Not enough generations have passed, or sub-populations been isolated from inter-breeding, for there to have been any substantial selection on these variations, I suppose.

I still think we see a lot of inbreeding --in places we wouldn't suspect. Regions of our own country, in fact. Too many auto-immune diseases.

Just my lay person's bad scienctific musing.

124 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:50:48pm

re: #122 freetoken

And, this being the US, creationist efforts never end, and the Atlantic has yet another piece on Kentucky's now famous Ark:

A Boat of Biblical Proportions

So there.

But G-d said he'd never again destroy the world by flood. Why buy a $3K pass on an Ark?

125 freetoken  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:51:01pm

re: #123 Holidays are Family Fun Time

"In-breeding" among humans is much less common today than in previous eras.

126 jaunte  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:51:48pm

re: #122 freetoken

"...whether he could safely and efficiently fabricate a multimillion-dollar tourist attraction to God’s specifications, using only wooden pegs, planks, beams, and whatever else might have been available to Noah..."

I hope Kentucky has modernized their building codes since then.

127 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:52:16pm


128 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:52:19pm

re: #125 freetoken

"In-breeding" among humans is much less common today than in previous eras.

freetoken--people are building an Ark.

What other excuse is there?

129 jaunte  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:53:05pm

World Economy in Best Shape Since 2011: Investors

The world economy is in its best shape in 18 months as China’s prospects improve and the U.S. looks likely to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, according to the latest Bloomberg Global Poll of investors.
...
“The global economy is improving, recovering and healing, thanks to the U.S. and the emerging markets,” said Andrea Guzzi, a poll respondent and vice president of IST Investmentstiftung fuer Personalvorsorge, which manages money for Swiss pension funds. “More people are becoming wealthy, less and less are poor.”

130 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:54:23pm
131 jaunte  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:55:28pm

re: #122 freetoken

Lots of dinosaur couples boarding, in that illustration.
[Link: www.theatlantic.com...]

132 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:59:10pm

Here's a good urban planning idea, and its actually an old idea:

Brandon Fuller
The Genius of Dirt Roads
Why the growing cities of the developing world need New York–style street grids

In 1810, most of New York City’s 96,000 residents lived on the southern end of Manhattan. A year later, a three-man commission published what must have seemed a wildly ambitious plan for the city’s expansion. Anticipating a population of 400,000 by 1860, the commissioners’ plan covered nearly the whole island in a now-famous rectilinear street grid, a design meant to make new construction as affordable and convenient as possible. In fact, the commissioners weren’t ambitious enough. By 1860, New Yorkers numbered nearly 814,000; by 1900, the city’s population of 1.65 million had occupied the commissioners’ entire grid.

In his new book, Planet of Cities, my colleague Shlomo Angel argues that our urbanizing world needs a fresh dose of the commissioners’ audacity. Over the next 40 years, the United Nations expects the world’s cities to grow by roughly 2.7 billion residents, with nearly all that growth occurring in the developing world. UN projections have sub-Saharan Africa and the Indian subcontinent growing by close to 700 million urban residents each; for Latin America and Southeast Asia, the number is about 200 million each.

Ignoring this influx isn’t an option. Rural families will arrive in an uncoordinated fashion, often entering slums that lack access to basic services and compounding such urban challenges as crime, lack of sanitation, contagious disease, traffic congestion, pollution, and vulnerability to natural disaster. But if governments respond by trying to contain urban expansion with greenbelts or urban growth boundaries that artificially restrict the supply of developable land, the result will be prices and rents higher than many arriving families can afford.

Angel writes that governments in the developing world, whose financial capacity is often limited, should focus on what may sound unglamorous: establishing an arterial grid of dirt roads throughout each city’s future territory, much as the commissioners did in Manhattan. The grid should connect to the city’s existing network of roads, of course, and it should cover an area that the city expects its future population growth to require. These arteries will one day carry public transportation and private traffic, and such infrastructure as water mains, sewers, storm drains, and telecommunications networks will follow their routes.

133 freetoken  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:59:26pm

re: #131 jaunte

Yup, side by side with the humans.

134 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:01:31pm

Dear Noah,
362 inches of rain an hour.
There wouldn't be anything left. Not even dirt.
Lol.

135 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:03:57pm

re: #134 Varek Raith

Dear Noah,
362 inches of rain an hour.
There wouldn't be anything left. Not even dirt.
Lol.

How would that work for you?

136 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:07:02pm

bbl

137 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:09:25pm

re: #134 Varek Raith

Dear Noah,
362 inches of rain an hour.
There wouldn't be anything left. Not even dirt.
Lol.

Time to make a floatation device and rid myself of Snakes on the Ark.

138 freetoken  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:09:31pm

Doomer Haiku 4 U:

Dinosaurs and men
strolling arm in arm towards
dark oblivion.

139 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:10:13pm

re: #138 freetoken

Doomer Haiku 4 U:

Dinosaurs and men
strolling arm in arm towards
dark oblivion.

Comes with the territory. People think they will live forever.

140 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:12:44pm

re: #139 Gus

Comes with the territory. People think they will live forever.

Nobody gets out alive..

141 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:13:47pm

re: #140 A Man for all Seasons

Nobody gets out alive..

You just have to realize that you're already dead.

142 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:14:59pm

I'm a lich.
Sucks to be you all.
:P

143 Petero1818  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:16:28pm

John Stewart absolutely destroyed McCain and Lindsey Graham tonight. One of the best pieces I have seen him do in a while.

144 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:17:42pm

re: #142 Varek Raith

I'm a lich.
Sucks to be you all.
:P

I've got a cure for that... [turns Varek into a Mummified Monkey's Butt]

145 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:19:15pm

re: #141 Gus

You just have to realize that you're already dead.

No, you realize that one man doomed to die can change the whole world with his actions.
One Man/Women can effect their world..In terms of granularity from the smallest details in your life to the big picture, We can vote.
/Hi Gus!

146 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:21:01pm

re: #139 Gus

Comes with the territory. People think they will live forever.

i know I do

So far, so good!!
/

147 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:21:17pm

re: #131 jaunte

Lots of dinosaur couples boarding, in that illustration.
[Link: www.theatlantic.com...]

Well the bright side is that once they build it at least some people will finally realize that there is no possible way to fit that many animals on board, much less dinosaurs.

God shrank them!!!

But it doesn't say anything about that in the bible...

Heretic! Blasphemer! Security remove this man at once!

Oww, hey let go of me...

/

148 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:22:28pm

re: #144 Dark_Falcon

I've got a cure for that... [turns Varek into a Mummified Monkey's Butt]

GAZE.
Image: Demilich1.jpg
:P

149 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:22:39pm

re: #146 sattv4u2

i know I do

So far, so good!!
/

Back to work? Drink more coffee Satt!

150 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:23:48pm

re: #149 A Man for all Seasons

Back to work? Drink more coffee Satt!

Arrived 2 1/2 hours ago

1st pot empty (that, after the large to go cup for the long quiet drive in to work)

151 dragonath  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:24:48pm

re: #117 freetoken

One aspect of evolution - the mutation of genetic material - has definitely increased in humans the past 5000 years:

Past 5,000 years prolific for changes to human genome

Ha! I knew it! You're all Mutants!

152 jaunte  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:26:16pm

re: #147 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Well the bright side is that once they build it at least some people will finally realize that there is no possible way to fit that many animals on board, much less dinosaurs.

I'm so looking forward to the inevitable experiments.

153 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:26:25pm

re: #145 A Man for all Seasons

No, you realize that one man doomed to die can change the whole world with his actions.
One Man/Women can effect their world..In terms of granularity from the smallest details in your life to the big picture, We can vote.
/Hi Gus!

Hoops!

154 Gus  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:29:37pm
155 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:35:04pm

re: #152 jaunte

I'm so looking forward to the inevitable experiments.

Your talking about something the size of a car ferry. Roughly 440 feet long, 73 feet wide, 43 feet high, and divided into three decks. Just how many species of animal do you think you could fit on there with Two each for "unclean" and Seven each for "clean" animals?

156 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:41:24pm

re: #138 freetoken

Doomer Haiku 4 U:

Dinosaurs and men
strolling arm in arm towards
dark oblivion.

Tiny T. rex arms
made it really hard to swim
during Noah's flood.

157 Kragar  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:46:45pm

This was obviously photoshopped.

No globular clusters.

158 Targetpractice  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:50:14pm

re: #157 Kragar

This was obviously photoshopped.

No globular clusters.

Ah, memories.

159 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:54:00pm

re: #157 Kragar

And, no magnets!

160 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:54:43pm

Hey wait a second, doesn't Ken Ham know anything about the bible? He is going to build a tower of Babel at the Ark Encounter, doesn't he remember what happened to the last one?

[Link: arkencounter.com...]

///

161 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:59:55pm

re: #159 Dancing along the light of day

And, no magnets!

Hi You!

162 Kragar  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 10:01:13pm

re: #159 Dancing along the light of day

And, no magnets!

THE PYRAMIDS!

163 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 10:05:20pm

re: #117 freetoken

One aspect of evolution - the mutation of genetic material - has definitely increased in humans the past 5000 years:

Past 5,000 years prolific for changes to human genome

...the genomes of 6,500 African and European Americans. Their findings confirm early work by Akey1 suggesting that the majority of variants, including potentially harmful ones, were picked up during the past 5,000–10,000 years

the separation of europeans from africans and middle easterners happened about 45 thousand years ago, in the ice age. asian settlers had already started to leave africa about 60 thousand years ago. ten thousand years ago is about when the ice finished up melting

the reintegration of human populations has been accelerating ever since the ice age ended

164 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 10:05:23pm

Well gee isn't this one just full of kittens and rainbows?...

escapist forums

Bullying is good. It encourages people who are behaving strangely or failing to develop social skills to do so. It's social Darwinism, being bullied because you are fat? Lose weight. Being bullied because you creep girls out? Start learning to pick girls who are actually interested in you. Bullied for being a slut? Stop spreading your legs for anyone who takes you out once. Bullied for being gay? Stop being so flamboyant.

And if you'd rather not change who you are, then fight back and earn your right to be different.

Society is not responsible for protecting you from mean people. Someone who is abnormal, bases their opinion of themselves on what other people think, is to weak to mount a defense, to stubborn to change, to unlikeable to get others to help, and to unintelligent to strike back verbally or with some sort of clever scheme deserves what they get: they were never going to contribute anything meaningful to society anyways.

Adapt or die.

165 Targetpractice  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 10:07:10pm

re: #164 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Well gee isn't this one just full of kittens and rainbows?...

escapist forums

Are they speaking from experience as the bully? Or the bullied?

166 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 10:08:12pm

re: #164 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Adapt or die

you first, asshole

how's about i bully your sorry ass for a while?

167 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 10:08:22pm

re: #161 A Man for all Seasons

Hi You!

168 freetoken  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 10:14:16pm

re: #163 engineer cat

the separation of europeans from africans and middle easterners happened about 45 thousand years ago, in the ice age. asian settlers had already started to leave africa about 60 thousand years ago. ten thousand years ago is about when the ice finished up melting

Well, yes and no.

Note for instance that "europeans" and "middle easterners" are essentially the same population, compared to those in sub-saharan Africa.

Then, those we currently label as "European", and from whom many of us here descend, are turning out to be late-coming farmers who moved into the NW part of the Eurasian continent after the invention of agriculture in the levant, so many "Europeans" are descended primarily from migrants heading from the Black Sea area towards the west/north only 5 to 6 thousand years ago. These farmers, it appears from the latest research, did interbreed somewhat with the older hunter-gatherer populations who had roamed the area since earlier migrations.

The great complexity in human sub-populations comes in areas like Southern Asia where it is not clear how many groups stayed or migrated the past 40,000 years. Likewise for Southern Africa, where some populations are recent but some are very old indeed.

Anyway, mutations continue piling up as our exponential population growth (now ending and which must end this century for a sustainable society over the next millenium) progresses. I wonder if any of these mutations will be selected against, or if some might find a favorable future.

169 Targetpractice  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 10:15:41pm

Can't say that being bullied ever gave me the motivation to change. If anything, all it did was make me further isolate myself as well as lash out in ways that just got me in trouble with the faculty. But I guess it's supposed to make sense from the point of view of the bully, who thinks he's got all the power and has no reason to change.

170 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 10:16:22pm

All I know is back in my grade school days I stuttered so badly I could rarely get three words in a row out. I wore hand-me-downs from a cousin in Chicago who wore checkered pants and embroidered shirts. I had started Kindergarten a year early so I was smaller and less socially developed than my classmates.

So uh yeah, I don't like bullies, not one bit...

171 Kragar  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 10:22:28pm

O'Reilly: Christianity not a religion

On his show Wednesday night, Fox News host Bill O’Reilly accused American Atheists president David Silverman of being a “fascists” who wanted to banish Christmas from the United States.

During the contentious interview, O’Reilly insisted that Christmas displays in public buildings were not a constitutional issue because Christianity is not a religion.

“It is a fact that Christianity is not a religion, it is a philosophy,” the Fox News host declared confidently. “If the government was saying that the Methodist religion deserves a special place in the public square, I would be on your side.”

172 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 10:25:47pm

re: #167 Dancing along the light of day

Hi You!

Hope you are well..Took my sleeping pill so I figure I got 30-40 minutes in this world.
Tonight I got in my Raiders PJ's and took all the bills and spread them on the bed and spent about 2 hours shuffling through shit and Winston was in pout mood cause he couldn't be in bed with me. He got his treats and he is now snuggled up to the Hoopster

173 Targetpractice  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 10:26:02pm

re: #171 Kragar

O'Reilly: Christianity not a religion

So that means we can strip them of their tax-free status?

174 TedStriker  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 10:26:31pm

re: #171 Kragar

O'Reilly: Christianity not a religion

Wait, isn't that sort of the same argument Pamz, Spencer, and their ilk give as they spout that Islam "is not a religion": that it's a way of life, a philosophy, a governmental framework?

The bigots and morons can't even keep their own BS straight...

175 TedStriker  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 10:27:19pm

re: #171 Kragar

O'Reilly: Christianity not a religion

Page it...I dare you!

///

176 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 10:31:24pm

re: #171 Kragar

O'Reilly: Christianity not a religion

strenuous goalpost-moving exercise

makes me sweat from the exertion just reading it

177 TedStriker  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 10:32:41pm

re: #173 Targetpractice

So that means we can strip them of their tax-free status?

The caterwauling from the RWNJs will never stop if that ever gets suggested.

178 Targetpractice  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 10:32:49pm

re: #176 engineer cat

strenuous goalpost-moving exercise

makes me sweat from the exertion just reading it

This from the same guy who gave us "tides go, tides go out" last year to avoid losing the same discussion. The man's pathological.

179 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 10:35:31pm

re: #172 A Man for all Seasons

I hope that you sleep well, my friend.
Evilly knocks all the stupid paperwork off the bed to make room for Winston!

180 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 10:36:52pm

re: #171 Kragar

O'Reilly: Christianity not a religion

Pretzel logic but you know he may be technically right. You can call yourself a Christan. But until a group comes together and calls themselves the first church of the Holy refrigerator, Then you are a real religion.
I think

181 Targetpractice  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 10:38:38pm

Powerball winning ticket was sold in Arizona. It all over, folks.

182 TedStriker  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 10:40:50pm

re: #181 Targetpractice

Powerball winning ticket was sold in Arizona. It all over, folks.

Figures...watch it be Joe Arpaio.

/grumble grumble

183 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 10:46:10pm

re: #168 freetoken

true

i think it's interesting, though, to contemplate the estimated time depth of the initial migrations outward, especially since these dates are so little known generally, and they should be

184 freetoken  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 11:02:04pm

re: #181 Targetpractice

Powerball winning ticket was sold in Arizona. It all over, folks.

Hmmm.... Arizona.... Bristol Palin?

185 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 11:26:17pm

Hey, I have a great idea!

The United States needs to ban abortion so that it is only done in unsafe and illegal conditions! America used to lead the world in everything and now it isn't even mentioned in these statistics anymore!

Unsafe Abortions

Show your pride in America by helping us climb to the top!

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186 freetoken  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 11:50:15pm

This one goes out to the winner in Arizona:

187 freetoken  Wed, Nov 28, 2012 11:51:29pm

This one is for the rest of you, a little bit of Corelli:

188 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 12:00:59am

re: #184 freetoken

Raining like heck here. Hope you are getting the rain too?

189 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 12:04:18am

A "biblical" perspective on why global warming is false...

God made a promise to Noah along with other promises; that as long as the earth remains that there will not be a global warming that will stop the seasons, the cold, or the harvesting of fields. It says in His Word and it is up to the person to believe it or not. So what teachers are teaching our children about global warming is based on what they think it is all about and how we should help and take an interest to save our planet. God is the only one who can save this planet and nobody else can do that job. So how and what the truth really is is found in God's Word (Holy Bible). All other information is based on man-made presumptions not facts.

I'm really glad I read that, now I know that I don't have to worry about AGW at all anymore, whew, what a relief. Hmm...you don't suppose that maybe he is stretching the truth just a bit do you? Did God really promise no global warming? Maybe I better check...

21And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done. 22While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

Uh oh, I don't see anything there about global warming or whether or not both summers and winters couldn't both be a lot warmer. Damn now I'm right back to being worried again...

///

190 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 12:07:41am

re: #51 jaunte

Someone ask for a mental midget?

Don't buy the lies. Obama did not win the election, there is no "new electorate".

Seems that a good chunk of the GOP is still stuck in the "denial" phase...

191 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 12:19:19am

re: #171 Kragar

O'Reilly: Christianity not a religion

One could argue just as well that Christmas has developed into a fully secular holiday in the US: not only is it celebrated by any number of non-believers, but it also contains many traditions and rituals that are clearly pagan and pre-Christian.

So O'Reilly is really walking out onto some thin ice here in his attempt to outflank the atheists.

192 researchok  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 12:21:27am

Morning, all

193 researchok  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 12:30:28am

re: #186 freetoken

re: #187 freetoken

Talk about book ends- Elvis and Corelli.

Today's word is 'Range'.

Good stuff.

194 engineer cat  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 12:34:46am

re: #187 freetoken

This one is for the rest of you, a little bit of Corelli:

[Embedded content]

nice!

corelli had a much more prominent reputation in his own day, and when the young j s bach went to hear him in the early 1700s, you have keep in mind, the italians still dominated music as the age of the great german composers had yet to dawn

corelli is also not that easy to play well, not because of any technical difficulty of the music but rather because the performer must bring something to it for it to be fully recognized. a virtuoso himself, corelli's compositions are merely platforms for the performer to take hold of and transform from merely excellent composistions into something truely marvellous. chiara banchini is my favorite modern performer of corelli - not only does she play with an unmistakeable fiery fire, but she follows baroque performance practice and writes her own ornaments

195 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 12:36:22am

re: #194 engineer cat

nice!


corelli's compositions are merely platforms for the performer to take hold of and transform from merely excellent composistions into something truely marvellous.

You mean like Leonard Cohen songs?

196 researchok  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 12:37:37am

re: #194 engineer cat

Do you play a musical instrument?

197 engineer cat  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 12:39:24am

re: #194 engineer cat

recognized

um, "realized"

198 engineer cat  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 12:47:07am

re: #196 researchok

Do you play a musical instrument?

acoustic guitar, rhythm, not lead, and flute for lead and improvisation - i have an alto flute i usually play - i like to jam without charts and do my best to figure out the chords on the spot and hope to play a nice solo or at least something appropriate and decorative. i also like to play soprano sax to indulge my undying love of 20s - 30s jazz and recently bought a 1924 buescher tru-tone soprano, plays like a dream

studied theory and composition all through high school and some in college

199 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 12:48:17am

"Do you read music?"

"Yeah, but not enough to hurt my playing!"

200 researchok  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 12:51:39am

re: #198 engineer cat

That's great- I admire that, a lot. No question musical talent/ability goes a long way in the cognition department. Many also believe music helps in math skills and language acquisition

I tried piano as a kid, was rightly deemed mediocre because I hated to practice.

Looking back, I wish I had the appreciation and passion.

On the upside, I became pretty accomplished at Pong.

201 engineer cat  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 12:52:44am

re: #196 researchok

Do you play a musical instrument?

how about you-all guys?

202 researchok  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 12:53:57am

re: #201 engineer cat

As noted, I played Pong pretty up tempo.
/

203 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 12:55:13am

Stringed instruments: guitar, mandolin and banjo.

Cannot get the hang of keyboards, I can bang out chords but stumble when one hand is playing a descending scale while the other hand is plaiyng an ascending scale...

204 researchok  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 12:59:38am

re: #203 Sol Berdinowitz

I hear that.

My daughter is magical at the keyboard. She is mostly self taught, resisted the lessons until she realized, 'Hey, this teacher knows what she talking about. Maybe I can learn something here.'

She plays beautifully now.

205 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 1:03:01am

Why did the snowman drop his pants?
Because he heard the snowblower coming.

/

206 researchok  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 1:03:55am

re: #205 watching you tiny alien kittens are

I'm sufficiently unPC enough to uppding that.

207 engineer cat  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 1:05:41am

re: #203 Sol Berdinowitz

Stringed instruments: guitar, mandolin and banjo.

Cannot get the hang of keyboards, I can bang out chords but stumble when one hand is playing a descending scale while the other hand is plaiyng an ascending scale...

that hand independance thing is a bitch. i never could manage to play even the standard bach two part invention when i took piano in high school

our choir teacher studied piano at julliard, and he told us an excercise there was to take what you call yer 4-square hymn there (ya see), which can be played easily on the piano since they're just block chords, but - here's the trick - play them so that all four voices stand out under your fingers and sing! that's not just two hand independance, that's ten finger independance!

208 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 1:05:45am

re: #206 researchok

I'm sufficiently unPC enough to uppding that.

why is PC associated with sexual prudery? I understand if it is demeaning to women, but we are talking about inanimate objects here...

209 researchok  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 1:07:14am

re: #208 Sol Berdinowitz

Trust me- someone will find a way to make that an issue...
/

210 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 1:10:19am

re: #209 researchok

Trust me- someone will find a way to make that an issue...
/

I know that some will, but I see it as a matter of sexual prudery, not political correctness.

211 engineer cat  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 1:12:32am

re: #205 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Why did the snowman drop his pants?
Because he heard the snowblower coming.

/

you guys know the one about the penguin getting his car fixed on a hot day?

212 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 1:16:44am

I guess the democratic Get Out The Vote efforts were a complete failure...

This guy is way underestimating the fraud that took place. Half the Democrat votes could be fraud, not to mention the Republican votes that weren't counted or switched to Democrat votes. I knew they had the machines fixed when they started the business about Romney fixing the machines. If you are making the accusation, you are free to engage in that exact behavior because the opposition will be on the defensive.

It's easy when most of the Republicans charged with safeguarding the elections are actually Democrats in disguise.

'rats aren't gonna like the revenge.

So if half the Democrat votes were by fraud and the other half were actually Republican votes switched to Obama then doesn't that mean that no actual Democrats voted this year?

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213 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 1:17:00am

re: #211 engineer cat

you guys know the one about the penguin getting his car fixed on a hot day?

nope

214 researchok  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 1:17:27am

re: #211 engineer cat

I'll bite

215 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 1:22:29am

re: #212 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Lol...didn't notice his user name...

Noam Chimpsky

Uhh, subtle, very subtle.

/

216 engineer cat  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 1:24:32am

re: #213 watching you tiny alien kittens are

re: #214 researchok

ok, so the mechanic gets busy checking the car out to figure out what's wrong, and mr penguin figures he might as well go and get himself an ice cream cone while he's waiting. so he gets his ice cream cone and comes back, and the mechanic says to him "looks like you've blown a seal"

so the penguin quickly wipes his lips clean and says "oh, no, uh that's just ice cream"

217 researchok  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 1:26:30am

re: #216 engineer cat

Chuckle/groan combo...

218 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 1:30:28am

re: #212 watching you tiny alien kittens are

I guess the democratic Get Out The Vote efforts were a complete failure...

So if half the Democrat votes were by fraud and the other half were actually Republican votes switched to Obama then doesn't that mean that no actual Democrats voted this year?

///

How many Democrats own companies that manufacture voting machine software?

219 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 1:33:46am

re: #216 engineer cat

re: #214 researchok

ok, so the mechanic gets busy checking the car out to figure out what's wrong, and mr penguin figures he might as well go and get himself an ice cream cone while he's waiting. so he gets his ice cream cone and comes back, and the mechanic says to him "looks like you've blown a seal"

so the penguin quickly wipes his lips clean and says "oh, no, uh that's just ice cream"

You'll get the animal rights activists onto you for this one...

220 freetoken  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 1:56:04am

re: #188 Dancing along the light of day

Raining like heck here. Hope you are getting the rain too?

There is a "chance" of rain all through Sunday night, but that chance never gets higher than 50% and that is for one night only. We'll probably just get a trace.

San Diego is noticeably drier than LA.

221 simoom  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 3:01:10am

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

WASHINGTON — Three days after the lethal attack on the American Mission in Benghazi, Libya, Representative C. A. Dutch Ruppersberger of Maryland, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, asked intelligence agencies to write up some unclassified talking points on the episode. Reporters were besieging him and other legislators for comment, and he did not want to misstate facts or disclose classified information.

More than 10 weeks later, the four pallid sentences that intelligence analysts cautiously delivered are the unlikely center of a quintessential Washington drama, in which a genuine tragedy has been fed into the meat grinder of election-year politics.

...

Now the talking points could also affect the chances of a top candidate for C.I.A. director, Michael Morell, the agency’s acting director, who on Tuesday accompanied Ms. Rice to a briefing for some of her most vocal Senate critics and misspoke about changes in the original draft of the talking points.

Intelligence officials said Wednesday that Mr. Morell’s flub, which prompted a sharply worded statement from three Republican senators, was an insignificant mix-up: He said the F.B.I. had taken out a specific reference to Al Qaeda, when in fact that change was made by the C.I.A. The F.B.I. had added another phrase to the same sentence.

“This was an honest mistake, and it was corrected as soon as it was realized,” one official said. “There is nothing more to this.”

But such earnest attempts to lower the political temperature have so far failed.

...

The facts about the talking points, like those about the Benghazi attack itself, have dribbled out slowly and awkwardly from intelligence officials who generally do not relish airing their internal deliberations. But there is now a fairly clear account.

The C.I.A. and other intelligence agencies rarely prepare unclassified talking points; more often, policy makers submit proposed public comments, and intelligence analysts check them for classified information or errors of fact. But in the storm of news media coverage after the killings in Benghazi, C.I.A. officials responded quickly to Mr. Ruppersberger’s request on Sept. 14.

C.I.A. analysts drafted four sentences describing “demonstrations” in Benghazi that were “spontaneously inspired” by protests in Cairo against a crude video lampooning the Prophet Muhammad. (Later assessments concluded there were no demonstrations.) The initial version of the talking points identified the suspected attackers — a local militant group called Ansar al-Shariah, with possible links to Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, an offshoot of the terrorist network in North Africa.

...

But during a subsequent review by several intelligence agencies, C.I.A. officials were concerned that such specific language might tip off the malefactors, skew intelligence collection in Libya and interfere with the criminal investigation. So they replaced the names with the blanket term “extremists.”

Ms. Rice has been skewered by Republican senators for her comments on Sunday television news programs on Sept. 16, which they have suggested were part of an administration cover-up of the terrorist nature of the attack and links to Al Qaeda. The criticism has barely been affected by the revelation that she accurately recited the talking points the intelligence agencies prepared.

222 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 3:07:36am

re: #221 simoom

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

At this point, I really wish the White House would just tell them to go piss up a rope. They have answered the questions put before them, there has not been any proof provided that an "cover-up" was orchestrated, and they are done wasting time on this. If the GOP wishes to continue this dog and pony show going, it will do so without further input from the White House.

223 simoom  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 3:25:18am

re: #222 Targetpractice

Yeah, the evidence-less accusations of coverup-ups and intentionally deceiving the public are so far beyond the pale it's maddening. If only the media would hold U.S. Congressmen & women to a high enough standard where such baseless character assassination would carry a heavy political cost. In any case there's little the WH can do if the opposition party is behaving this way, with the parliamentary dysfunction the Senate Minority wields through blanket holds on entire slates of federal appointees and with the GOP having the house locked in, likely until redistricting comes around again, as committee chairs like Issa submit endless requests for 10s of thousands of documents all across the gov't, and then his huge team of investigators comb through them for items to cherry pick out, spin and selectively leak. In both bodies of congress they've mastered the art of gumming up the federal gov't and drumming up constant political controversy out of thin air.

224 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 3:31:27am

re: #171 Kragar

Christianity is a philosophy. Islam is a political system. My comparative religions class was a complete waste!

//

225 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 3:31:33am

re: #223 simoom

There is a Higher Truth at stake here: the GOP Talking Point that Obama hates America and coddles terrorists. Anything that advances this image in the public's eye is fair game.

226 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 3:33:10am

re: #224 wheat-dogghazi

Christianity is a philosophy. Islam is a political system. My comparative religions class was a complete waste!

//

At least you studied comparative religions. What sees to be lacking in the discourse in America is any clear idea of the boundaries between religion, science, philosophy, politics, ideology and fairy tales...

227 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 3:40:49am

re: #226 Sol Berdinowitz

Larnin' is hard!

There's your trouble.

I can guarantee that true believers will walk into that life-size model of the Ark in Kentucky and not even think twice about the impossibility of fitting thousands of animals in such a small space, not to mention the food needed to keep the carnivores from eating everybody else during a 40-day cruise.

Biblical literalists do not question received truth.

228 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 3:41:52am

re: #227 wheat-dogghazi

Larnin' is hard!

There's your trouble.

Especially when all you need to know about everythin' is in the Good Book.

229 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 3:46:53am

The evil spreads:

In rare strike, NYC fast-food workers walk out

It doesn't matter, even if we raise wages for everyone, you guys will still be in the lower percentiles!!!

230 makeitstop  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 4:35:52am

re: #200 researchok

That's great- I admire that, a lot. No question musical talent/ability goes a long way in the cognition department. Many also believe music helps in math skills and language acquisition

I'm apparently the exception to that rule. I consider myself to be a pretty good musician, but I totally suck at math.

My HS math teachers used to yell at me - 'You understand music! That's all math!'

I've never been able to recognize the correlation. Music is just something I can do, math is not.

231 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 4:41:18am

I came close to making a breakthrough in integral calculus in my sophmore year of college but failed. Have abandoned math ever since.

232 Flounder  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 4:54:01am

re: #230 makeitstop

I was "pretty good" at math, It's the letters and symbols in math I never liked. I took the differential equations course twice.
On the other hand, it took me three days to figure out how to put to perfectly perpendicular lines on the floor of my basement. Grid patterns for tile. I knew the math part, it was poor measuring that did me on.

233 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 4:57:21am

re: #118 Dark_Falcon

The Lizard Army is to Morlocks what Morlocks are to Eloi.

How soon until D_F starts singing "The Circle of Life"?
/ ;)

234 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 4:57:31am

re: #229 Sol Berdinowitz

The evil spreads:

In rare strike, NYC fast-food workers walk out

It doesn't matter, even if we raise wages for everyone, you guys will still be in the lower percentiles!!!

From the linky:
NYCC organizers and fast food workers have been signing up employees on petitions demanding both the chance to organize a union without retaliation and a hefty raise, from near-minimum wages to $15 an hour.

Wanna get paid? Learn a skill. Sorry if the truth hurts.
Morning Honcos.

235 makeitstop  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 4:59:15am

re: #232 Flounder

I was "pretty good" at math, It's the letters and symbols in math I never liked. I took the differential equations course twice.
On the other hand, it took me three days to figure out how to put to perfectly perpendicular lines on the floor of my basement. Grid patterns for tile. I knew the math part, it was poor measuring that did me on.

My wife can sit around and read calculus books like they're beach novels. I've tried, but none of it even begins to register in my brain.

She always says she can't understand why I can remember 500 songs off the top of my head but can't balance a checkbook. I don't really understand it, either.

236 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 5:02:03am

I did algorithms and matrix problems in college. Just a short reminder course and I'd be good. I think.

237 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 5:03:28am

Algebra and calculus, no prob.
Geometry? OMG WTH IS THIS?!
*shrugs*

238 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 5:03:29am

re: #235 makeitstop

I've seen shows on how math and music are one in the same. Lemme see what I can find.

239 Obdicut  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 5:03:32am

re: #234 Cannadian Club Akbar

From the linky:
NYCC organizers and fast food workers have been signing up employees on petitions demanding both the chance to organize a union without retaliation and a hefty raise, from near-minimum wages to $15 an hour.

Wanna get paid? Learn a skill. Sorry if the truth hurts.
Morning Honcos.

It doesn't really hurt, but it just pushes the problem farther away. If you're comfortable paying any unskilled workers at below-poverty-level wages, then do you also feel that we need as taxpayers to support those people? Because right now people can work full time and not make a liveable wage. That's a problem.

In addition, the skilled or unskilled nature of a job isn't directly related to its profability; unskilled workers can still make significant profits for their employers.

240 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 5:04:46am

re: #238 Cannadian Club Akbar

I've seen shows on how math and music are one in the same. Lemme see what I can find.

From Wiki.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

241 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 5:06:21am

re: #239 Obdicut

Because some guy can make a Big Mac doesn't put him inline with a guy who can thrown up some drywall.

242 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 5:07:24am

re: #222 Targetpractice

At this point, I really wish the White House would just tell them to go piss up a rope. They have answered the questions put before them, there has not been any proof provided that an "cover-up" was orchestrated, and they are done wasting time on this. If the GOP wishes to continue this dog and pony show going, it will do so without further input from the White House.

Well, it's not like Congress is horribly busy passing legislation.

[Link: firstread.nbcnews.com...]

Potential new record for "Do Nothing" Congress. And I understand that simply counting number of bills passed is a flawed metric since not all bills are created equal in terms of size, complexity, scope, and relative importance.

243 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 5:08:27am

re: #223 simoom

Yeah, the evidence-less accusations of coverup-ups and intentionally deceiving the public are so far beyond the pale it's maddening. If only the media would hold U.S. Congressmen & women to a high enough standard where such baseless character assassination would carry a heavy political cost. In any case there's little the WH can do if the opposition party is behaving this way, with the parliamentary dysfunction the Senate Minority wields through blanket holds on entire slates of federal appointees and with the GOP having the house locked in, likely until redistricting comes around again, as committee chairs like Issa submit endless requests for 10s of thousands of documents all across the gov't, and then his huge team of investigators comb through them for items to cherry pick out, spin and selectively leak. In both bodies of congress they've mastered the art of gumming up the federal gov't and drumming up constant political controversy out of thin air.

They've put the Bureau of Sabotage out of business!
;)

244 Obdicut  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 5:12:48am

re: #241 Cannadian Club Akbar

Because some guy can make a Big Mac doesn't put him inline with a guy who can thrown up some drywall.

You don't seem to have understood what I said. I'm making two points:

1. If we allow companies to pay workers a wage that, even if they work full time, puts them below the poverty level, the government is going to have to give a lot of help to those people. This will-- actually, I should say 'does', since this is already the case-- require lots of 'entitlement' programs and quite a bit of taxation to pay for it.

2. The skill of a worker and his profitability to the company is not directly related. An unskilled worker might get $7 an hour but make $40 an hour for his company; a skilled worker might make $20 an hour and make $40 an hour for the company.

245 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 5:18:43am

re: #244 Obdicut

A quick look says the poverty level for a single person is around $10,830. That's not full time or at the minimum wage. Albeit, I've seen peole try to fuck others by paying, minimum $300 for around 48 hours a week.

I doubt a $7 hours guy makes a company $40/hour. There will be more people involved. And of course, there are exceptions.

246 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 5:20:18am

re: #171 Kragar

O'Reilly: Christianity not a religion

Then they need to start paying taxes on all that damn property they own. Would pull my boro out of depressed status if they did here.

247 makeitstop  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 5:20:33am

re: #238 Cannadian Club Akbar

I've seen shows on how math and music are one in the same. Lemme see what I can find.

Oh, the idea makes perfect sense to me. I just can't do math, and music doesn't make me understand math any better. Music has always been an instinctive thing to me.

Maybe if I understood math better it would make me a better musician. OTOH, maybe giving up that part of my brain to store math would result in my understanding music less.

248 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 5:22:15am

And either way, I'm not talking about the minimum wage, I'm talking about fast food workers making $15/hr. Ain't gonna work. Unless you pay $8 for a big mac. Other than that, enjoy the celebrations as fast food places close.

249 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 5:24:41am

re: #247 makeitstop

Oh, the idea makes perfect sense to me. I just can't do math, and music doesn't make me understand math any better. Music has always been an instinctive thing to me.

Maybe if I understood math better it would make me a better musician. OTOH, maybe giving up that part of my brain to store math would result in my understanding music less.

I know people who can read music, as well as people who have never read music but can tune a guitar in the middle of a song. Just one of those things, I suppose.

250 makeitstop  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 5:26:05am

re: #249 Cannadian Club Akbar

I know people who can read music, as well as people who have never read music but can tune a guitar in the middle of a song. Just one of those things, I suppose.

Yeah, something to gab about early in the day. :)

251 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 5:28:25am

re: #250 makeitstop

Yeah, something to gab about early in the day. :)

I did a half thought there. Sorry.I know people who can read sheet music but can't execute what is needed to perform, even in a studio. And I know those who just have "an ear" and can stand in front of crowds and "wow" them.

252 Obdicut  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 5:28:31am

re: #245 Cannadian Club Akbar

A quick look says the poverty level for a single person is around $10,830. That's not full time or at the minimum wage.

You looked too quick. It's $15,130, and full-time at minimum wage is $15,080.

So again: A full-time minimum wage worker is below poverty-level. That means that the government has to step in and provide support for them. Which means, effectively, we're subsidizing those employers with tax money.

That is our current situation. That is how it currently is.

I doubt a $7 hours guy makes a company $40/hour. There will be more people involved. And of course, there are exceptions.

Why do you doubt it, exactly? The price paid for labor is what the market will bear; it has no relationship to the actual profitability of the employee for the company. Employees do not know, and have no way of finding out, how much money they're actually making the company.

253 makeitstop  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 5:36:58am

re: #251 Cannadian Club Akbar

I did a half thought there. Sorry.I know people who can read sheet music but can't execute what is needed to perform, even in a studio. And I know those who just have "an ear" and can stand in front of crowds and "wow" them.

I've known musicians who can sight-read effortlessly and sound amazing doing it, but if you take away their sheet music and ask them to improvise they're completely lost.

I fall more into your second category - I've got enough of an ear that it kept me in work for a good part of my adult life, but if you ask me to do a strict reading of sheet music I sound like I've got ten thumbs.

254 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 5:38:24am

re: #252 Obdicut

First, see my #248.
Second, it all depends on the business. If I have a restaurant and I make 15% profit and a dish cost $20, that's $3. Now will I sell more than one? Of course. But if I'm paying him $15/hour, I need to sell 5 dishes just to pay him. Then add the bills for the place. And the others. Raise prices?

255 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 5:40:23am

re: #253 makeitstop

I can (or used to) read bass clef music. Can even play a baritone (horn). And 10 thumbs? I have zero dexterity.

256 Obdicut  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 5:44:33am

re: #254 Cannadian Club Akbar

And either way, I'm not talking about the minimum wage, I'm talking about fast food workers making $15/hr. Ain't gonna work. Unless you pay $8 for a big mac. Other than that, enjoy the celebrations as fast food places close.

I don't understand what you're saying here. You're making an assertion, but I don't see anything even remotely approaching evidence or proof.

Paying each worker $15 an hour would drop per-employee profitability (and please note, that's net, not gross) at MacDonald's from about $15,000 per employee to $5,000 per employee-- and that's assuming there isn't any benefit to MacDonald's from doing so, which is wrong.

If more people in the lower strata were paid higher wages, they'd buy a lot more stuff, which would increase the profitability of those companies. Right now, wealth is accumulating only at the highest echelons of society, and so the real, productive economy is stagnating.

257 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 5:44:44am

re: #254 Cannadian Club Akbar

First, see my #248.
Second, it all depends on the business. If I have a restaurant and I make 15% profit and a dish cost $20, that's $3. Now will I sell more than one? Of course. But if I'm paying him $15/hour, I need to sell 5 dishes just to pay him. Then add the bills for the place. And the others. Raise prices?

I covered that in this post. Two thoughts at the same time and all. My bad.

258 Obdicut  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 5:46:39am

One of the main reasons we're seeing small businesses not hiring, but big businesses hiring, is because wages have stagnated to such an extent. It's choking the life out of mom and pop businesses and small stores that depend on the local economy having money. Meanwhile, the big businesses that can engage in financial chicanery, dominate their market, or sell only to the wealthiest are doing fine, and more than fine, increasing profits hugely over the past four years while wages have stagnated or, in real terms, gone down.

259 Obdicut  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 5:54:27am

And further, as wages stagnate and decline, and personal expenditures drop, the only things that are getting bought with constancy are health care, rent for apartments, food, transportation, and cell phones. Those are the bare necessities of life in this age. Most people working at or close to minimum wage-- which is a lot of people-- can't even afford to meet those costs, and certainly can't really afford anything beyond that. So those become the most profitable industries-- and those industries are some where the income is, again, concentrated at the highest levels. So that becomes part of the vicious cycle.

We hear a hell of a lot of talk about the Middle Class, as though they're the only productive class in the US, but the 'Working Class', as the name denotes, is a lot of what makes this country work. Back in the slightly-better-old-days, in the 1950s, it was perfectly possible to hold down a working-class job and be what we'd consider now 'middle class', and companies were profitable-- in fact, it was one of the most booming times in US history. A large part of that was because these working class people had money to spend, and our domestic economy was vibrant and the velocity of money constant.

260 darthstar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 6:01:39am

Mornin' everyone...I finally read that spearhead blog...holy crap those guys are couch warriors.

261 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 6:05:11am

re: #260 darthstar

Wow, what a f'ing douchbag.

The sooner it falls apart the better for us.

And a patriot to boot.

262 darthstar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 6:08:05am

re: #261 Henchman Ghazi-808

Wow, what a f'ing douchbag.

And a patriot to boot.

Yeah...I caught that too. And his argument against women in combat amounts to nothing more than "Just look at her! She's fucking hot and I'm a fat old slob with a drawer full of porn."

263 Flounder  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 6:10:53am

John Crudele, master of the obvious:

When will the fiscal cliff talks get serious? About an hour after the stock market collapses from worry.

Why will rich people have to pay more taxes? For the same reason Willie Sutton said he robbed banks. That’s where the money is.

[Link: www.nypost.com...]

264 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 6:15:38am

re: #262 darthstar

Holy crap, that's some serious weapons grade derp. Nothing like tiny whiny men with victimhood complexes about women wishing women get what's coming too them for having the temerity to move beyond barefoot kitchen sex kitten status.

On a blog named after a weapon, no less.

265 Lidane  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 6:18:50am

Rupert Murdoch's papers, UK media condemned in phone-hacking report

Rupert Murdoch’s newspapers and other British media were reckless in the pursuit of sensational stories “almost irrespective of the harm” caused, according to a major report on Britain's phone-hacking scandal.

The findings of the year-long Leveson Inquiry criticized a “failure of systems of management and compliance” at Murdoch’s News of the World tabloid, which was closed down as the full extent of their illegal actions became clear.

The report is being watched by American lawmakers amid concerns that U.S. laws may have been broken.

Lord Justice Leveson’s report did not recommend state regulation – or censorship in the eyes of some – of the media as many victims of press intrusion had demanded.

“At the News of the World, quite apart from phone-hacking, there was a failure of systems of management and compliance,” the report said.

“There was a general lack of respect for individual privacy and dignity,” it added.

266 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 6:21:00am

I have to post the whole thing, it's just that stupid. Poor white men need a voice in a society that has shunned them.

The Spearhead — Getting to the Heart of the Matter

Over the last few years, it has become increasingly obvious that American men – particularly those of the post-boomer generations – have fallen into a cultural gap. Our voice is barely a whisper in the traditional media, we are consistently portrayed as worthless buffoons and advertisers ignore us.

But underneath the gossip shows on TV, the newspaper articles written by elderly columnists and the parade of empty-headed starlets there is a rising murmur of dissent — a growing dissatisfaction with the shabby state of affairs. There is a palpable feeling that our legitimate grievances have been ignored even as more and more indignities are heaped on our heads.

Some of us have finally started to find our voice, and a number of blogs dedicated to men’s issues have appeared, seemingly out of nowhere, creating something of a movement. But “movement” might be the wrong term, because in our contrived and artificial society the meaning of that word has come to be associated with dilettante radicals with bullhorns and giant puppets making appeals on behalf of sea turtles or some other exotic cause. What sets our movement apart is that many men, because of the real injustices so many of us have faced first-hand, have come to a common awareness that there are serious political, legal and cultural problems that plague men in our society.

Rather than engaging in status displays of conspicuous righteousness, we are raising our voices in defense of ourselves, our families and our fellow men, which is a far more ennobling thing to do than raiding weasel farms or getting involved in intertribal disputes halfway around the world.

This magazine is an expression of our growing voice, and combines the talents of some of the Anglosphere’s best bloggers on men’s issues. We don’t all have exactly the same opinions or the same solutions, but we’re all dedicated to tackling the same injustices and building a better society based on honesty and a realistic assessment of human nature. And, finally, we’re also dedicated to providing top-notch content that will inform, educate and entertain readers.

Enjoy our magazine!

267 darthstar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 6:25:14am

re: #264 Henchman Ghazi-808

On a blog named after a weapon, no less.

A phallic weapon, no less.

268 Interesting Times  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 6:26:38am

re: #267 darthstar

A phallic weapon, no less.

LOL compensation.

269 darthstar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 6:37:35am
270 Obdicut  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 6:38:13am

re: #269 darthstar

He should make her the new head of the CIA.

271 darthstar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 6:38:20am
272 Lidane  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 6:52:14am

re: #269 darthstar

Ha! I hadn't even thought of that. He never has mentioned nominating her. IIRC he's only defended her from their attacks in a press conference. The rest has been entirely manufactured by the right, just like the Benghazi conspiracy.

273 GunstarGreen  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 6:53:59am

re: #35 Dark_Falcon

Vandalizing schools makes one a douche. Vandalizing a school with graffiti that literally calls Barack Obama the Anti-Christ makes one a douche-canoe.

If Obama is supposed to be the Anti-Christ, that's one weak-ass God these people believe in.

274 darthstar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 6:57:09am

re: #272 Lidane

Ha! I hadn't even thought of that. He never has mentioned nominating her. IIRC he's only defended her from their attacks in a press conference. The rest has been entirely manufactured by the right, just like the Benghazi conspiracy.

McCain will be pissed if he finds out he's been barking up the wrong tree all this time. I'd love to see a double-switch. Nominate someone not even on the radar, but qualified, and when the GOP blows up into a big stink about how Rice would be a better choice, agree and nominate her.

What they really want, though, is John Kerry. Then they can get their beloved Scott Brown back.

275 darthstar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 6:59:01am

re: #270 Obdicut

He should make her the new head of the CIA.

Another good choice. I know Hillary wants to retire, but it'd be nice if she held out until spring.

276 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 7:00:05am

re: #260 darthstar

Mornin' everyone...I finally read that spearhead blog...holy crap those guys are couch warriors.

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He's just mad because they could kick is pathetic ass.

277 Lidane  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 7:01:18am

re: #274 darthstar

What they really want, though, is John Kerry. Then they can get their beloved Scott Brown back.

Plus they'd get to do Swiftboat Veterans II: Vietnam Boogaloo if Kerry got nominated. They'd finally have a use for all those Purple Heart band-aids they've got lying around.

278 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 7:05:53am

A key phrase from the Spearhead BS sums it all up:

some of the Anglosphere’s best bloggers on men’s issues

Anglosphere? That's a new one on me. Sounds like white nationalists.
men's issues? Shorthand for imaginary male victimhood.

These guys have issues, but not the kind they mean.

279 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 7:07:33am

Good morning lizards!

280 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 7:07:41am

re: #278 wheat-dogghazi

A key phrase from the Spearhead BS sums it all up:

Anglosphere? That's a new one on me. Sounds like white nationalists.
men's issues? Shorthand for imaginary male victimhood.

These guys have issues, but not the kind they mean.

Yes, the poor, oppressed, white mans burden. Afraid he will be treated as he has treated others. Basically, "this would be funny if it wasn't happening to me!"

281 darthstar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 7:11:13am
282 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 7:13:45am

re: #280 Eventual Carrion

I'm a white guy, about northern European as you can get. Somehow all this wailing and whining about "men's issues" and "racism against whites" passed me by. These chumps need to grow spines and deal with life the way it is, not wish for some fairy-tale past of white male supremacy that would have left their sorry asses out anyway.

283 Stanghazi  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 7:15:10am

Quick q - is there a reason Hillary couldn't serve a 2nd term?

284 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 7:16:05am

There was a wreck on the highway last night out here...

School Bus Wreck Closes Section of I-64

A school bus was involved in an accident on Interstate 64 Eastbound, near Exit 120.

No children were on a school bus at the time of the accident. The driver of the bus was not hurt.

Ablemarle County School Spokesman Phil Giarmaita said the school bus was on the way to Monticello High School to pick up students. A replacement bus has been sent to the school, so the kids likely won't be late getting home.

Giarmaita tells the Newsplex that from what he understands, a vehicle was swerving to avoid hitting another car when it hit the bus.

According to someone who was on scene last night the car who caused the accident was a young girl texting. There were cars getting off the exit and it was backed up in to the right lane of 64. This happens every day. When she looked up it was too late and she hit the bus. Thankfully it was empty and nobody got hurt.

285 Lidane  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 7:18:04am

re: #283 Stanghazi

Quick q - is there a reason Hillary couldn't serve a 2nd term?

Nah. I think she just wants to take a rest is all.

286 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 7:18:51am

re: #283 Stanghazi

Quick q - is there a reason Hillary couldn't serve a 2nd term?

I can't think of any other reason other then she might be ready to leave. It has to be a hard job. All that traveling, dealing with so many, often hostile, diplomats. Just as you can see on the pres face since he was elected you can see on Hillary's face how it seems to have worn her down.

287 darthstar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 7:29:37am

re: #284 NJDhockeyfan

The hardest thing about texting while driving is not spilling your beer.

288 darthstar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 7:31:34am

re: #287 darthstar

The hardest thing about texting while driving is not spilling your beer.

Before we had cell phones, I could hold a beer in one hand and roll a joint in the other while driving. Yeah, I had skillz. And I-5 is one straight stretch of road through most of California.

289 darthstar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 7:33:00am

re: #283 Stanghazi

Quick q - is there a reason Hillary couldn't serve a 2nd term?

She could...she's just done. And she's earned a break. A couple of years off to relax and maybe she'll run for POTUS again in 2016.

290 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 7:39:46am
Dear Parents and Citizens: This is an urgent call to action affecting your Bloomfield Hills Schools and public education in Michigan. A package of bills designed to corporatize and dismantle public education is being hastily pushed through this current ‘lame duck’ legislative session. If we do not take immediate action, I believe great damage will be done to public education, including our school system. We have just three weeks to take action before it’s too late. The bills are:

Bad School Craziness

291 darthstar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 7:40:47am
292 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 7:45:10am

Techies tell Congress high music royalties hurt artists

Please tell me again how royalties of $.00009 per play are hurting artists. I'll put it in my Playlist.

293 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 7:45:43am

Susan Rice has ties to Keystone XL!!!!!!!!!

I need a smoke.

294 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 7:52:19am

re: #293 Gus

Beat me to it. Benghazi... Bitumen...bleh.

295 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 7:53:43am

re: #294 Henchman Ghazi-808

Beat me to it. Benghazi... Bitumen...bleh.

I don't care about her investments.

296 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 7:57:43am

...

The couple has at least $1.25 million invested in Transalta, Alberta’s largest coal-fired electricity power producer, and at least $1.5 million in Canadian Pacific Railway, which transports coal, oil, and gas and has been a major financial beneficiary of the North American energy boom.

And a railroad company!!

[Faints.]

297 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:05:38am

re: #296 Gus

...

And a railroad company!!

[Faints.]

I could never do that. Most of my money is tied up in condoms and beef jerky.

// and boy do I hate it when I mix the two up.

298 I Am Kreniigh!  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:07:03am

Hexavortica is the key insight.

299 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:14:15am

Well, there's always this...

LOL This is at National Review...

The Times and Israel
Rupert Murdoch was right.
By Conrad Black

300 Killgore Trout  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:14:40am

New Egypt charter to keep sharia as 'main' source of law

Egypt's constituent assembly retained on Thursday the principles of Islamic law as the main source of law, as it rushed through the approval process over objections from an opposition that argues more time is needed.
....
Article 2 states that "Islam is the state religion, and the Arabic language is its official language. The principles of Islamic sharia are the main source of legislation."

A still unagreed Article 219 seeks to explain the clause on Islamic law in terms of Sunni Muslim jurisprudence.

Hardline Islamists known as Salafists had initially wanted stronger language in Article 2, but in the end supported the final wording.

I think Article 219 is the one to watch. If there end up being a panel of appointed clerics to oversee and approve legislation it going to be a big problem.

301 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:15:35am

re: #300 Killgore Trout

New Egypt charter to keep sharia as 'main' source of law

I think Article 219 is the one to watch. If there end up being a panel of appointed clerics to oversee and approve legislation it going to be a big problem.

If America is a "Christian nation", then what does that make Egypt?

302 dragonath  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:20:10am

re: #300 Killgore Trout

Article 2 states that "Islam is the state religion, and the Arabic language is its official language. The principles of Islamic sharia are the main source of legislation."

That's pretty perverse considering Coptic Egyptian is the direct descendent of a native language that has existed for more than 5000 years.

303 Killgore Trout  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:20:12am

re: #301 Sol Berdinowitz

If America is a "Christian nation", then what does that make Egypt?

That's why the sharia/Islamic nation thing isn't a big deal in itself. If America, as a Christian nation, had a panel of appointed priests checking the bible to make sure legislation has god's approval then we've stepped into theocracy.

304 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:20:27am

re: #301 Sol Berdinowitz

If America is a "Christian nation", then what does that make Egypt?

An Islamic nation, same as our friends Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

305 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:21:33am

re: #303 Killgore Trout

That's why the sharia/Islamic nation thing isn't a big deal in itself. If America, as a Christian nation, had a panel of appointed priests checking the bible to make sure legislation has god's approval then we've stepped into theocracyrealized the GOP's wet dream.

FTFY

306 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:23:00am

re: #295 Gus

I don't care about her investments.

I do care about her investments in energy that could be directly impacted by her realm of influence, discussion in a hearing is worthy.

A pragmatic and objective discussion about her investments and objectivity seem so freaking far out of reach due to the Benghazi freakout.

307 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:24:35am

Very troubling news coming out of Iran...

Report: Muslims kill Jewish woman in Iran, dismember body

Muslim extremists murdered a Jewish woman and then dismembered her body in the Iranian city of Isfahan, Israel Radio reported.

The woman's relatives said that a mosque had recently been built near their home, and that worshippers had demanded that the family leave their home in order to expand the building. The homeowner had submitted an official compaint against the worshippers.

The incident has raised growing concerns within Iran's Jewish community, which is fearful of additional attacks.

308 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:27:28am

re: #306 Henchman Ghazi-808

I do care about her investments in energy that could be directly impacted by her realm of influence, discussion in a hearing is worthy.

A pragmatic and objective discussion about her investments and objectivity seem so freaking far out of reach due to the Benghazi freakout.

Then they can transfer their investments to other stocks. Done, finished, fixed.

309 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:30:28am

Meanwhile, odds are your computer is being run by electricity generated by a coal fired power plant. :D

310 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:31:50am

Egypt clashes cut off access to U.S. Embassy

The U.S. Embassy in Cairo closed Thursday after clashes between opposition protesters and riot police cut off access to the building, CBS News' Alex Ortiz reports from Egypt.

The clashes have been ongoing as Egypt's Islamist president, Mohammed Morsi, refuses to back down in a showdown over decrees granting him near-absolute powers.

The protesters don't seem to be targeting the embassy itself, Ortiz reports. Instead, they're targeting the riot police and the clashes are happening in the area and in the approaches to and from the embassy. Most embassy staff have gone home, and the embassy closed for all American citizen services.

311 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:33:10am

re: #308 Gus

Then they can transfer their investments to other stocks. Done, finished, fixed.

Well, merely having those investments should not preclude her. It's worthy of hearing her out, divestment is one solution. In a practical world, Rice and the authorizing body approving her could discuss this potential for conflict and work it out.

I know... NFW that will happen now. Times are crazy.

312 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:36:13am

re: #311 Henchman Ghazi-808

Well, merely having those investments should not preclude her. It's worthy of hearing her out, divestment is one solution. In a practical world, Rice and the authorizing body approving her could discuss this potential for conflict and work it out.

I know... NFW that will happen now. Times are crazy.

I doubt this story has legs. Most of "the left" will ignore it out of party loyalty and "the right" will ignore it because they'll see no problem with it. I'm sure there's plenty of other "Keystone XL money" in the White House.

313 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:37:16am

American charged in plot to smuggle airliners to Iran

FOR anyone - let alone a middle-aged aircraft mechanic from Texas - the plan to smuggle seven jetliners into Iran was audacious and risky.

It also failed.

It involved planes in China, Swiss funds and a blacklisted Iranian airline. US federal prosecutors say Diocenyr Ribamar Barbosa-Santos, 52, of Fort Worth, Texas, tried to broker the $US136.5 million ($130.5 million) deal out of Florida.

But the plan failed this month before a single Airbus A300 left the ground.
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''It's not every day that someone walks into your office with a charge like this,'' said William Barner, the lawyer representing Mr Barbosa-Santos over charges of violating federal trade restrictions. If convicted, the penalties include 20 years in prison and a $US1 million fine.

In Iran, the demand for commercial jets is becoming urgent, and the tentacles of a black market for aircraft have seeped into places close to the US.

South Florida is a hotbed of illicit transactions of all kinds, investigators say, but lately many have involved Iran.

314 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:46:56am

re: #312 Gus

I doubt this story has legs. Most of "the left" will ignore it out of party loyalty and "the right" will ignore it because they'll see no problem with it. I'm sure there's plenty of other "Keystone XL money" in the White House.and all over the GOP

FTFY

315 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:47:07am

We're going bankrupt and liquidating, but if our execs do a good job closing things down they get another bonus...

But they also can't pay their current retiree benefits, and stopped paying into their pension plan over a year ago. Nothing broken here.

[Link: www.nbcnews.com...]

316 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:48:49am
317 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:49:46am

re: #316 Sol Berdinowitz

Did not have to look very hard:

The Speaker's Pipe Dreams: Big Oil Investments Muddy Boehner's Message On Keystone XL

Irony.

318 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:50:10am

And now for something completely different...

Check out Yoko Ono's wacky new clothing line for Opening Ceremony

319 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:50:45am

re: #302 dragonath

That's pretty perverse considering Coptic Egyptian is the direct descendent of a native language that has existed for more than 5000 years.

Well, yeah, but no one has actually spoken Coptic in hundreds of years. Nowadays it's used only in the Coptic Christian liturgy.

320 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:50:59am

re: #318 NJDhockeyfan

And now for something completely different...

Check out Yoko Ono's wacky new clothing line for Opening Ceremony

Obviously designed for the man with three buttocks.

321 Obdicut  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:52:31am

re: #303 Killgore Trout

That's why the sharia/Islamic nation thing isn't a big deal in itself. If America, as a Christian nation, had a panel of appointed priests checking the bible to make sure legislation has god's approval then we've stepped into theocracy.

We have a lot of laws that are only on the books because of Christianity, though.

We just don't really have the guts to acknowledge it much.

322 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:59:02am

re: #321 Obdicut

We have a lot of laws that are only on the books because of Christianity, though.

We just don't really have the guts to acknowledge it much.

I can deal with a religion serving as a basis for a system of laws and morals. I cannot accept a group of theocrats who must approve laws or candidates before they can be voted on.

323 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:00:10am

REPORT: North Korea Replaces Defense Chief With Hawk

North Korean leader Kim Jong-Un has replaced his defence chief with a hawkish general in a shakeup apparently aimed at tightening his grip over the military, a report said Thursday.

Vice Marshal Kim Jong-Gak was sacked as defence minister after just seven months in office, Yonhap News Agency quoted an unnamed senior South Korean presidential official as saying.

He was replaced by Kim Kyok-Sik, a hawkish general believed to have orchestrated the North's sinking of a South Korean warship and an artillery attack on a border island in 2010, it said.

324 darthstar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:01:20am

re: #318 NJDhockeyfan

And now for something completely different...

Check out Yoko Ono's wacky new clothing line for Opening Ceremony

I like the fart escape pants...though they're probably drafty in cold weather.

325 dragonath  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:01:23am

re: #319 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Well, it's the idea of an official language that grates. You could say the same thing about Hebrew in the old days.

Perhaps the Roman Catholic Church may have (inadvertenly) fostered secularism across the Western world by holding on to Latin as a lingua franca well into the modern age. One of the many problems in the middle east is how their languages became defined as religious symbols as well.

326 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:02:14am

Everything is about a perceived enemy.

327 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:07:34am

re: #326 Gus

Everything is about a perceived enemy.

You can say that again.

328 Killgore Trout  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:08:59am

I was keeping up the the latest news on Egypt and this pooped up
The Pharaoh Island: Celebration of Egyptian architecture in Britain 90 years on from discovery of Tutankhamun's tomb
Some pretty cool stuff.
I think this one is my favorite
Image: article-2240398-16445A29000005DC-590_634x921.jpg

329 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:09:40am

re: #327 wrenchwench

You can say that again.

Ah. Is he or she a fan? I'm sure you know that Mona Eltahawy is going before a judge today for the spray paint incident.

330 BongCrodny  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:10:21am

re: #318 NJDhockeyfan

And now for something completely different...

Check out Yoko Ono's wacky new clothing line for Opening Ceremony

She designs clothes like she sings.

331 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:13:27am

Morning all!

Have I told you how much I hate mornings?

332 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:13:35am

re: #330 BongCrodny

She designs clothes like she sings.

She designs clothes like she does art.

333 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:13:53am

re: #331 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Morning all!

Have I told you how much I hate mornings?

It's afternoon here.

334 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:17:08am

re: #329 Gus

Ah. Is he or she a fan? I'm sure you know that Mona Eltahawy is going before a judge today for the spray paint incident.

It's a she. Don't know much more.

I didn't know about Mona. I unfollowed her just because she was way too prolific a tweeter.

335 dragonath  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:17:35am

re: #325 dragonath

To follow that theme further:

The basis of all the traditional sciences is the legal martial of the Qu'ran and the Sunnah, which is the law given to us by God and his messenger, as well as the sciences connected with that material, by means of which we are enabled to utilize it. This, further, requires as auxiliary sciences the sciences of the Arabic language. Arabic is the language of Islam, and the Qu'ran was revealed in it. --Muqaddimah, Ibn Khaldun.

Granted this is some dude from the 1300s, but it's still the mode of thinking for fundamentalists pretty much everywhere.

336 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:17:35am

re: #332 NJDhockeyfan

She designs cloths like she does art.

HOw old is she now?

337 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:18:22am

re: #334 wrenchwench

It's a she. Don't know much more.

I didn't know about Mona. I unfollowed her just because she was way too prolific a tweeter.

Too many Tweets?

338 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:18:44am

re: #326 Gus

Everything is about a perceived enemy.

China just launched an aircraft carrier from an aircraft carrier.
True story.

339 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:19:56am

re: #338 Varek Raith

China just launched an aircraft carrier from an aircraft carrier.
True story.

Heard they found a high school nuclear physics graph in Iran. //

340 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:20:03am

re: #337 Gus

Too many Tweets?

I try to keep my feed simple. Too many Tweets and you're out, unless they're all pithy and interesting. Retweets have to be good, too.

341 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:20:15am

re: #313 NJDhockeyfan

American charged in plot to smuggle airliners to Iran

Guy should have gotten Ollie North to help. He has vast experience in this sort of thing and a way of getting off fairly scott free.

342 darthstar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:21:59am
343 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:22:25am

re: #340 wrenchwench

I try to keep my feed simple. Too many Tweets and you're out, unless they're all pithy and interesting. Retweets have to be good, too.

I've grown a high tolerance for some Tweeters. I tried following a few folks but couldn't handle the conspiracy theorist types.

344 darthstar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:22:49am

re: #313 NJDhockeyfan

American charged in plot to smuggle airliners to Iran

Is that a 737 in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?

345 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:23:18am

re: #323 NJDhockeyfan

REPORT: North Korea Replaces Defense Chief With Hawk

Filed under Bad News.

Sorry I'm here late, I had an early morning job interview.

346 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:23:50am

re: #343 Gus

I've grown a high tolerance for some Tweeters. I tried following a few folks but couldn't handle the conspiracy theorist types.

ABL is the most prolific tweeter I still follow. And it's been hard at times, as you know.

347 darthstar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:24:45am

re: #345 Dark_Falcon

Filed under Bad News.

Sorry I'm here late, I had an early morning job interview.

I think it's an actual bird, and not a hawkish general.

348 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:25:08am

Derpy Caller

349 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:26:08am

re: #347 darthstar

I think it's an actual bird, and not a hawkish general.

China can launch him from a carrier then.

350 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:26:41am

re: #345 Dark_Falcon

Filed under Bad News.

Sorry I'm here late, I had an early morning job interview.

Hope the interview went well.

351 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:26:55am

re: #307 NJDhockeyfan

Very troubling news coming out of Iran...

Report: Muslims kill Jewish woman in Iran, dismember body

That one was by the JPost. I'm not sure they should be considered reliable right now, given some of the shit they've run.

352 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:27:30am

re: #350 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Hope the interview went well.

Think so, but I won't know till next week.

353 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:27:42am

re: #348 Gus

[Embedded content]

Derpy Caller

Looks like it was written by a leprechaun.

354 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:29:17am

re: #353 Gus

Looks like it was written by a leprechaun.

YOU'LL NEVER HAVE ME LUCKY CHARMS!!!

355 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:30:25am

re: #354 Varek Raith

YOU'LL NEVER HAVE ME LUCKY CHARMS!!!

Am I right or what?

356 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:30:51am

re: #351 Dark_Falcon

That one was by the JPost. I'm not sure they should be considered reliable right now, given some of the shit they've run.

UPI reported the same thing.

ISFAHAN, Iran, Nov. 29 (UPI) -- A Jewish woman was stabbed to death in Isfahan, Iran, in what her family said was a religiously motivated crime.

357 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:31:11am

It's magically delicious!

358 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:31:59am

re: #345 Dark_Falcon

Filed under Bad News.

Sorry I'm here late, I had an early morning job interview.

Take it up with the Soros Zionist personnel shop.

359 Political Atheist  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:33:13am

Science and photography=magical views

360 dragonath  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:33:29am

re: #356 NJDhockeyfan

UPI reported the same thing.

UPI is the house press agency of the Washington Times.

361 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:36:38am

re: #360 dragonath

UPI is the house agency of the Washington Times.

Frank says:

I'll do the stupid thing first and then you shy people follow...

362 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:36:51am

I guess criminal investigation pragmatism only applies when a white guy shoots a black kid in Florida. Then, we wait and apply a 24 hour rule or beyond. If it's something out of Iran, then we accept the reportage at full face value.

363 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:37:35am

re: #362 Gus

I guess criminal investigation pragmatism only applies when a white guy shoot a black kid in Florida. Then, we wait and apply a 24 hour rule or beyond. If it's something out of Iran, then we accept the reportage at full face value.

Iran launched a missile from a turtle.
True story.

364 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:37:38am

re: #360 dragonath

UPI is the house agency of the Washington Times.

Since when? UPI has been around since 1907. Washington Times started in 1982. Did the moonies take over UPI when we weren't looking?

365 Locker  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:38:11am

Woman I work with is the coach for her daughter's robotics team. She applied for and won a NASA grant for $6500 to pay for the parts package and the use of the NASA logo on their competition entry.

I love NASA.

366 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:39:33am

re: #365 Locker

Woman I work with is the coach for her daughter's robotics team. She applied for and won a NASA grant for $6500 to pay for the parts package and the use of the NASA logo on their competition entry.

I love NASA.

T-800?
/

367 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:39:33am

re: #360 dragonath

UPI is the house press agency of the Washington Times.

I don't think so.

368 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:39:36am

re: #363 Varek Raith

Iran launched a missile from a turtle.
True story.

Frontpage reports:

Islam is the religion of peace. Mosques are places where peaceful worshipers gather. And no one should ever be concerned about a mosque going up near their home. Never.

...

But remember, Jews and Christians in the Muslim are “protected”. They pay protection money in the form of Jizya. And they’re not persecuted too much, unless they don’t make way for a mosque or unless Islamists take over.

This is your life. This is your life under Islam.

They're saying she was cut in half. Another report said they cut off her hands. Press TV is saying it was a robbery. EIEIO

369 darthstar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:39:57am

re: #352 Dark_Falcon

Think so, but I won't know till next week.

Go to Staples or Office Despot and get a box of cards. If you like the company and the opportunity, write a quick thank you note by hand immediately after the interview while what you discussed is still fresh in your mind and you still remember everyone's names who you talked to. Drop it in a mailbox on your way home. It'll get there the next day and it leaves a good impression. And almost nobody else does this.

When I'm hiring, I usually have my mind made up before the candidate is outside the building. If there's another candidate I want to talk to, I'll usually schedule them the same day so I have a fresh comparison to make, and I'll get the entire interview team together that afternoon to compare notes - positives, negatives, technical skills, and finally - and most importantly - "Is this person a good fit?" At the end of the day, the subjective outweighs the objective because we know someone with decent skills and a great personality can ramp up in a month or two while someone with excellent skills and an aloof personality might be a pain in the ass to work with, and team dynamics are the key to success.

What you want most of all is one or more of the people who interview you saying they look forward to talking to you again as you leave the interview.

370 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:40:48am

re: #368 Gus

Frontpage reports:

They're saying she was cut in half. Another report said they cut off her hands. Press TV is saying it was a robbery. EIEIO

Did they give a date when this was to have happened or are they recycling old news?

371 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:41:12am

re: #368 Gus

EIEIO

Enough Is Enough In Outrage?

372 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:41:46am

re: #333 NJDhockeyfan

It's afternoon here.

Sure, rub it in.

373 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:42:15am

re: #370 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Did they give a date when this was to have happened or are they recycling old news?

Hmmm. I didn't think of that. Apparently it started with a "radio report."

374 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:43:07am

re: #371 wrenchwench

Enough Is Enough In Outrage?

Old MacDonald had a farm,
Enough is Enough In Outrage
And on this farm he had a _________
Enough is Enough in Outrage
And the ___________ went _________
Enough is Enough in Outrage

375 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:44:28am

re: #373 Gus

Hmmm. I didn't think of that. Apparently it started with a "radio report."

It would be bad if I laughed...

"Thugs broke into her home, tied up her two sisters who were living with her, and repeatedly stabbed her to death," Amir said.

376 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:44:39am

re: #374 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Old MacDonald had a farm,
Enough is Enough In Outrage
And on this farm he had a Troll
Enough is Enough in Outrage
And the Troll went "DERP!"
Enough is Enough in Outrage

377 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:45:32am

re: #369 darthstar

Go to Staples or Office Despot and get a box of cards. If you like the company and the opportunity, write a quick thank you note by hand immediately after the interview while what you discussed is still fresh in your mind and you still remember everyone's names who you talked to. Drop it in a mailbox on your way home. It'll get there the next day and it leaves a good impression. And almost nobody else does this.

When I'm hiring, I usually have my mind made up before the candidate is outside the building. If there's another candidate I want to talk to, I'll usually schedule them the same day so I have a fresh comparison to make, and I'll get the entire interview team together that afternoon to compare notes - positives, negatives, technical skills, and finally - and most importantly - "Is this person a good fit?" At the end of the day, the subjective outweighs the objective because we know someone with decent skills and a great personality can ramp up in a month or two while someone with excellent skills and an aloof personality might be a pain in the ass to work with, and team dynamics are the key to success.

What you want most of all is one or more of the people who interview you saying they look forward to talking to you again as you leave the interview.

I'll look into that.

378 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:45:49am

re: #375 wrenchwench

It would be bad if I laughed...

How many times can a person die by stabbing in a 5 minute time frame?

379 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:49:23am

Yikes! Racist comments seen on MSNBC...

380 darthstar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:51:01am


Democrats are wising up to Republican tactics. Fuck you, Boehner...tell us what you want and then we'll talk.

381 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:51:02am

What sound does a Triffid make?

382 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:52:52am

re: #380 darthstar

[Embedded content]

Democrats are wising up to Republican tactics. Fuck you, Boehner...tell us what you want and then we'll talk.

Boehner has a brain? //

383 Coracle  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:53:29am

re: #379 NJDhockeyfan

Yikes! Racist comments seen on MSNBC...

[Embedded content]

...in August? What are you looking for, NJD?

384 darthstar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:53:40am

re: #379 NJDhockeyfan

Yikes! Racist comments seen on MSNBC...

[Embedded content]

Of course...they were covering Mitt Romney and his use of 'angry black man' rhetoric in the campaign. Calling out Romney's racism isn't the same as "making racist comments"

385 darthstar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:54:08am

re: #383 Coracle

...in August? What are you looking for, NJD?

And it was Mitt Romney.

386 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:57:33am

re: #384 darthstar

Of course...they were covering Mitt Romney and his use of 'angry black man' rhetoric in the campaign. Calling out Romney's racism isn't the same as "making racist comments"

Using the 'N' word is disgusting no matter who says it.

387 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:57:44am

Gotta run...work is calling.

388 Coracle  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:57:54am

Yikes! I feign shock at 4 month old news talkers! I'll use the fact it's on a cable network that hosts some liberal shows to insinuate the left is just as nasty as the right on race.

389 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:57:59am

Today's Headline: "President Obama Dines With Unemployed Man On Taxpayer Dime!"

390 Coracle  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:59:17am

re: #387 NJDhockeyfan

Gotta run...work is calling.

Gotcha.

1) Lob stale turd.
2) Run.

392 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:01:37am
393 darthstar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:02:08am
394 darthstar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:03:08am

re: #386 NJDhockeyfan

Using the 'N' word is disgusting no matter who says it.

Jesus fucking christ, you can't be serious.

395 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:03:43am

re: #394 darthstar

Jesus fucking christ, you can't be serious.

It was obviously meant in satire.
/

396 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:03:44am
397 Interesting Times  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:03:46am

re: #386 NJDhockeyfan

Using the 'N' word is disgusting no matter who says it.

So you're going to ban all Mark Twain's works, then? 9_9

Context, how the fuck does it work?

399 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:05:24am

re: #396 Holidays are Family Fun Time

photoshop

Little tiny horses.

400 engineer cat  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:06:44am

what's all this i hear about some guy named physical cliff?

401 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:08:07am

re: #400 engineer cat

what's all this i hear about some guy named physical cliff?

He's a former competitive weightlifter who now works as an enforcer for the Dean of the College of Hard Knox (a famous Presbyterian Minister).

402 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:08:36am

re: #400 engineer cat

He's my cousin. /Cliff Clavin

403 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:09:19am

re: #400 engineer cat

what's all this i hear about some guy named physical cliff?

Cliff Robertson?

404 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:10:01am

Healthcliff!!!!!

405 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:10:05am

re: #401 Feline Fearless Leader

He's a former competitive weightlifter who now works as an enforcer for the Dean of the College of Hard Knox (a famous Presbyterian Minister).

Is there a fort near that college?

406 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:13:00am

re: #405 Eventual Carrion

Is there a fort near that college?

No. But the neighborhood DQ has bullet-proof glass.

407 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:16:41am

re: #400 engineer cat

what's all this i hear about some guy named physical cliff?

He's Gene Eric Republican's cousin by marriage...I think.

//

408 Coracle  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:16:59am

re: #400 engineer cat

what's all this i hear about some guy named physical cliff?

It's the new opening band for Rascal Flats.

409 dragonath  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:17:10am

re: #367 wrenchwench

Uh, really?

News World Communications, Inc., is an international news media corporation.[1] It was founded in New York City, in 1976, by Unification Church founder and leader, Sun Myung Moon. Its first two newspapers, The News World (later renamed the New York City Tribune) and the Spanish-language Noticias del Mundo, were published in New York from 1976 until the early 1990s. In 1982, The New York Times described News World as "the newspaper unit of the Unification Church."[2] [3]
News World Communications owns United Press International, The World and I, Tiempos del Mundo (Latin America), Segye Ilbo (South Korea), Sekai Nippo (Japan), the Zambezi Times (South Africa), Middle East Times (Egypt)[4] and GolfStyles (formerly Washington Golf Monthly). Until 2008 it published the Washington D.C. based newsmagazine Insight on the News.[1] Since 1982, News World's best-known affiliate was the Washington Times. On November 2, 2010, Sun Myung Moon and a group of former Times editors purchased the paper from News World.[5]

410 makeitstop  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:17:34am

re: #376 Dark_Falcon

Old MacDonald had a farm,
Enough is Enough In Outrage
And on this farm he had a Troll
Enough is Enough in Outrage
And the Troll went "DERP!"
Enough is Enough in Outrage

You guys are forgetting the 'with a derp-derp here and a derp-derp there' part!

411 Kragar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:20:19am

GOP Rep. Floats New Conspiracy Theory: Obama Ousted Qaddafi ‘So Al-Qaeda Could Take Over’

Appearing on Frank Gaffney’s anti-Muslim radio show, Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) launched into a lengthy tirade criticizing the Obama administration’s decision to provide air support in the international campaign against Qaddafi last year. Rather than acknowledging that Obama launched the mission to stave off a looming massacre in Misrata, the Texas Republican saw a hidden, pernicious reason for the intervention. “This administration sent planes and bombs and support to oust Qaddafi so that al-Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood could take over Libya,” said Gohmert.

GOHMERT: What was all the rage a year and a half ago? It was the Arab Spring and how wonderful it was! This administration really embraced blowing out Mubarak – yes, do it up by all means – getting rid of Qaddafi, it wasn’t enough to send verbal accolades, this administration sent planes and bombs and support to oust Qaddafi so that al-Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood could take over Libya.

412 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:21:54am

re: #411 Kragar

GOP Rep. Floats New Conspiracy Theory: Obama Ousted Qaddafi ‘So Al-Qaeda Could Take Over’

throw enough spaghetti against the wall and eventually some of it will stick.

413 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:22:16am
414 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:22:45am

Fiscal Healthcliff --which Bronte Sister wrote about him?

415 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:23:00am

re: #409 dragonath

UPI was purchased in May 2000 by the Unification Church's media corporation, News World Communications, which, at the time, also owned the Washington Times and newspapers in South Korea, Japan, and South America.[6]

I am corrected. Thanks for digging deeper.

416 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:30:16am

re: #414 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Fiscal Healthcliff --which Bronte Sister wrote about him?

Montgomery Fiscal Cliff

417 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:31:09am

re: #416 Gus

Montgomery Fiscal Cliff

ok, which Bronte Sister wrote about him?

418 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:32:59am

re: #417 Holidays are Family Fun Time

ok, which Bronte Sister wrote about him?

Should have been Montgomery Fiscal Clift. :O

419 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:35:29am

re: #411 Kragar

GOP Rep. Floats New Conspiracy Theory: Obama Ousted Qaddafi ‘So Al-Qaeda Could Take Over’

I never knew Republicans liked Qaddafi that much especially after the 80's and him being a big enemy of the Reagan administration. If Qaddafi wasn't dead himself, I'd suggest that Louie go cry with him.

420 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:36:14am

re: #418 Gus

Should have been Montgomery Fiscal Clift. :O

I like Fiscal Healthcliff better.

written by Austerity Bronte. She was a cousin to Charlotte, Emily and Anne.

421 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:36:22am

re: #416 Gus

Montgomery Fiscal Cliff

Didn't he fight John Wayne at Red River?

422 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:37:29am

re: #420 Holidays are Family Fun Time

I like Fiscal Healthcliff better.

written by Austerity Bronte. She was a cousin to Charlotte, Emily and Anne.

And denied them healthcare, leading to issues with consumption?

423 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:37:53am

re: #421 Feline Fearless Leader

Didn't he fight John Wayne at Red River?

Now, it was over Macho Grande.
/No one ever gets over Macho Grande
/Ted Stryker

424 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:38:23am

re: #419 HappyWarrior

I never knew Republicans liked Qaddafi that much. If Qaddafi wasn't dead himself, I'd suggest that Louie go cry with him.

He spoke in terms the GOP appreciated, like "Line of Death".

425 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:40:12am

re: #422 Feline Fearless Leader

And denied them healthcare, leading to issues with consumption?

It was a common ailment back then. Now we have vaccines, but it has seen a resurgeance with the anti-science whackos.

People get consumed by fear. It's listed in the DSM-IV under the Paranoid Delusions Spectrum. (PDS)

426 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:40:33am

re: #423 lawhawk

Now, it was over Macho Grande.
/No one ever gets over Macho Grande
/Ted Stryker

I thought that was Machete Grande.--no?

427 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:41:02am

re: #426 Holidays are Family Fun Time

I thought that was Machete Grande.--no?

Machete don't text.

428 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:42:15am

re: #426 Holidays are Family Fun Time

I thought that was Machete Grande.--no?

429 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:42:19am

re: #427 Feline Fearless Leader

Machete don't text.

eh, don halve no steenkin' machetes . . .

430 erik_t  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:43:07am

re: #411 Kragar

GOP Rep. Floats New Conspiracy Theory: Obama Ousted Qaddafi ‘So Al-Qaeda Could Take Over’

God, how did I know it was Gohmert without even reading the body...

431 Obdicut  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:43:34am

re: #430 erik_t

God, how did I know it was Gohmert without even reading the body...

Could have been King.

432 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:43:42am

re: #430 erik_t

God, how did I know it was Gohmert without even reading the body...

You are a body reader?

433 erik_t  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:44:42am

re: #431 Obdicut

Could have been King.

Actually, now that I think about it, it's got Bachmann all over it.

434 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:45:18am

re: #433 erik_t

Actually, now that I think about it, it's got Bachmann all over it.

Must be hell on the dry-cleaning bill.

//

435 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:45:31am

re: #433 erik_t

Actually, now that I think about it, it's got Bachmann all over it.

ewwwwwwwwwwwwww

436 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:45:54am
437 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:46:05am

bbiab

438 TedStriker  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:47:11am

re: #423 lawhawk

Now, it was over Macho Grande.
/No one ever gets over Macho Grande
/Ted Stryker

I have a bit of a drinking problem, you know...

///

439 TedStriker  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:48:58am

re: #428 Gus

[Embedded content]

Danny Trejo is Hollywood's mean & ugly mutha of choice...he does a good job at it.

440 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:49:41am

re: #425 Holidays are Family Fun Time

It was a common ailment back then. Now we have vaccines, but it has seen a resurgeance with the anti-science whackos.

People get consumed by fear. It's listed in the DSM-IV under the Paranoid Delusions Spectrum. (PDS)

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

One of those things that have been with us just about forever, like bedbugs.

Also note that infected milk was a transmission vector since bovine TB and human TB were closely enough related to cross-infect. Another reason the raw milk folk need to wake up and understand the advantages of pasteurization.

441 TedStriker  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:49:49am

re: #436 Varek Raith

Image: Tornoe-20121129-eraser.jpg

Yeah, pretty much.

442 Kragar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:50:30am

re: #439 TedStriker

Danny Trejo is Hollywood's mean & ugly mutha of choice...he does a good job at it.

Interesting history behind how he came an actor. Plus, he's actually a really short guy.

443 Lidane  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:52:16am
444 TedStriker  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:52:53am

re: #442 Kragar

Interesting history behind how he came an actor. Plus, he's actually a really short guy.

Like Tom Cruise short, I know.

445 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:54:00am

re: #443 Lidane

[Embedded content]

Was he then heard to mutter about how fluoridation is threatening his "precious bodily fluids"?

446 darthstar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:54:30am

re: #396 Holidays are Family Fun Time

photoshop

Nope
[Link: animaltracks.today.com...]

447 Kragar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:55:48am

Steve King: Democrats will Never Lose the Hispanic Vote because they Promise Immigrants a 'Great Big Check'

Mefferd: How in the world do you out-left the left anyway? If we go to the left on amnesty, do you think the Democrats are going to sit still and just go ‘oh I guess that they’re more caring than we are’? It’s a zero-sum game. I don’t know how in the world the Republicans expect to get votes when the Democrats are already farther along than we are.

King: There’s no possible way. Whatever we might say we are going to do, reduce the enforcement of the rule of law, waive the rule of law, Democrats will find a way to hand deliver citizenship papers along with a great big check from money borrowed from the Chinese.

448 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:55:49am

re: #426 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Pick that up in a Grindhouse? /Stuntman Mike

449 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:57:31am

re: #442 Kragar

Interesting history behind how he came an actor. Plus, he's actually a really short guy.

And he does a bad-ass voice for a ghoul. Though I get tired of hearing him repeatedly bitch about how bad his knees are.

450 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:57:43am

re: #443 Lidane

If by "hidden sympathy" you mean UAV airstriking into the afterlife AQ all over the world.

What an asshat.

451 Lidane  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:58:19am

re: #447 Kragar

Steve King: Democrats will Never Lose the Hispanic Vote because they Promise Immigrants a 'Great Big Check'

And the GOP wonders why they have problems attracting minority voters.

452 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:58:20am

re: #446 darthstar

Nope
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453 erik_t  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:58:59am

re: #447 Kragar

Steve King: Democrats will Never Lose the Hispanic Vote because they Promise Immigrants a 'Great Big Check'

When I lived in New Mexico, I always did wonder why my immigrant neighbors drove such run-down rusted-out claptraps. No doubt they just hadn't yet received their great big check.

Fucking assbag.

454 Lidane  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:59:09am

re: #450 lawhawk

What an asshat.

It's Louie "Terror Babies" Gohmert. Asshat is his default setting.

Ignorant douchebag is an added feature.

455 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:59:14am

re: #447 Kragar

Steve King: Democrats will Never Lose the Hispanic Vote because they Promise Immigrants a 'Great Big Check'

Steve, buddy, your minority outreach? You're doing it wrong.

456 Kragar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:03:35am

Ohio Secretary Of State May Be Illegally Tossing Ballots

State representatives Kathleen Clyde (D-OH) and Debbie Phillips (D-OH) threatened to sue Wednesday evening over at least 384 ballots that have been discarded in the two districts in question, Tuscarawas and Cuyahoga. According to the state reps, some ballots were put in plain manila envelopes instead of provisional ballot envelopes, rendering them invalid. Additionally, they say Husted is rejecting ballots covered under the National Voter Registration Act of 1993, which allows voters who have moved to a different address within the same congressional district to vote at their former precinct.

Even more ballots are likely to have been wrongly discarded because officials are using a database already proven to be flawed and incomplete to determine the voter’s registration status.

Besides these possible breaches of federal election law, Husted is also tossing innumerable ballots that were thrown into question by poll worker error through no fault of the voter. A federal judge tried to stop him, declaring “I don’t want to see democracy die in the darkness on my watch.” But the conservative Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals issued a stay that allowed Husted to throw out these votes.

457 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:06:25am

re: #449 Targetpractice

And he does a bad-ass voice for a ghoul. Though I get tired of hearing him repeatedly bitch about how bad his knees are.

Former Skyrim guard before becoming an undead?

458 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:07:09am

re: #447 Kragar

Steve King: Democrats will Never Lose the Hispanic Vote because they Promise Immigrants a 'Great Big Check'

Keep on telling yourself that Steve and that bigots like you and your party's nominee had nothing to do with it. Fucking piece of right wing shit.

459 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:08:15am
460 Lidane  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:09:24am

re: #458 HappyWarrior

Keep on telling yourself that Steve and that bigots like you and your party's nominee had nothing to do with it. Fucking piece of right wing shit.

Steve's disappointed that Romney only lost the Latino vote by a 3-to-1 margin.

461 erik_t  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:10:06am

re: #460 Lidane

Steve's disappointed that Romney only lost the Latino vote by a 3-to-1 margin.

Challenge accepted.

462 Gus  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:10:13am
464 Lidane  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:15:44am

re: #463 Varek Raith

Fox's Stossel Attacks Government Food Inspection After Inspectors Found A Peanut Butter Salmonella Outbreak
Move to Somalia.

Yes, how dare the government at least try to ensure the safety of its citizens with food inspections.

465 Kragar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:16:10am
466 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:16:41am

re: #411 Kragar

GOP Rep. Floats New Conspiracy Theory: Obama Ousted Qaddafi ‘So Al-Qaeda Could Take Over’

Yep, that's why Osama is still threatening us and..
Oh...
Wait...

467 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:17:55am

I miss the days of coherent, semi-plausible conspiracies....
:(

468 Kragar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:19:24am

re: #467 Varek Raith

I miss the days of coherent, semi-plausible conspiracies....
:(

You never notice how conspiracies today aren't nearly as complex, structured, or efficient as they were years ago?

I find that suspicious.

469 GunstarGreen  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:23:49am

re: #456 Kragar

Ohio Secretary Of State May Be Illegally Tossing Ballots

Remember folks, your vote counts!

Unless it gets thrown out, or destroyed, or altered, or 'misplaced', or lost, or...

470 Kragar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:24:12am

WND: Half of Americans are at 'War with God'

Of all the many despondent and bitter post-election screeds, WorldNetDaily commentator Craige McMillan has managed to incorporate all of them into one column, where he attacks gays and lesbians, college students and the “47 percent” as part of America’s growing “rot.” He even says that they are “at war with God” and like the “antichrists” mentioned in 1 John.

McMillan claims that public school children are turned into “little secularists and communists” while “America’s up and coming leaders” at colleges are “too busy enjoying the enforced coed dorms and subsidized abortions at our nation’s most prestigious educational establishments” to care about America’s decline.

All of this together, he says, will lead to “world government” and the collapse of civilization, of course.

Crom laughs at the silly paranoid little man.

471 erik_t  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:25:59am

re: #470 Kragar

WND: Half of Americans are at 'War with God'

Enforced coed dorm?

Man, I really did college wrong.

472 Lidane  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:26:34am

re: #470 Kragar

WND: Half of Americans are at 'War with God'

Wouldn't that be along the lines of being at war with the Tooth Fairy? WTF.

Also, LOL @ this guy. Keep on living in fear, dude.

473 Kragar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:27:20am

re: #472 Lidane

Wouldn't that be along the lines of being at war with the Tooth Fairy? WTF.

Also, LOL @ this guy. Keep on living in fear, dude.

474 GunstarGreen  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:27:21am

re: #470 Kragar

WND: Half of Americans are at 'War with God'

Crom laughs at the silly paranoid little man.

For such an almighty god as people like McMillan keep claiming him to be, he sure is a sissy when it comes to dealing with all the myriad people that are supposedly mocking him and pissing him off every day.

475 I Am Kreniigh!  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:43:33am

re: #470 Kragar

WND: Half of Americans are at 'War with God'

Wait -- there's an AMPLIFIED Bible?

Because God has a tiny wee voice and needs help being heard, presumably.

476 HappyWarrior  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:44:13am

re: #470 Kragar

WND: Half of Americans are at 'War with God'

Crom laughs at the silly paranoid little man.

More right wingers being total losers because they lost the election. Fuck them.

477 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:47:43am

re: #463 Varek Raith

Fox's Stossel Attacks Government Food Inspection After Inspectors Found A Peanut Butter Salmonella Outbreak
Move to Somalia.

Damn government, looking out for my welfare. Where did they ever get the idea that was their job?

"provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare"

478 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:53:57am

re: #475 I Am Kreniigh!

The Ark; it's a transmitter, a radio for speaking to God. /Belloq


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