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Sandy and the Age of Superstorms

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Has Hurricane Sandy inaugurated a new age of climate fueled superstorms? Environmentalist Peter Sinclair interviews hurricane expert Dr. Kerry Emanuel of MIT, and Dr. Jason Box of the Byrd Polar Center.

Also see:
Emanuel 2007, Environmental Factors Affecting Tropical Cyclone Power Dissipation
[Link: texmex.mit.edu…]

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1 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 7:52:53pm

It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's SuperStorm!

No?

2 freetoken  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:17:45pm
Has Hurricane Sandy inaugurated a new age of climate fueled superstorms?

No. Sandy has "inaugurated" many things, such as extensive public discussions, the expenditure of emergency funds for rescue and repair, and so forth.

The question more accurately phrased is this: Is Sandy an indication of increased precipitation expected in northern temperate regions, and an increase in storm surges, as global warming continues through this century and those that follow?

We humans have a problem with causality. And with complexity. Indeed, I'd argue that one of the reasons we created religions is to bundle our ignorance into easy packages so that systems of religious practices could come up with easy "answers" to things we don't understand - thus assuaging the discomfort that comes with uncertainty.


I expect that for the rest of my life, and the life of anyone reading this, and for the rest of this century, that confusion over climate change - what it means, why it is happening, and what it will cost us - will not only continue but flourish.

3 Mich-again  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:20:15pm

Its simple really. Look at the Psychrometric chart.. As air gets warmer, its capacity to absorb water vapor increases at an increasing rate. So as the oceans and the atmosphere slowly increase in temperature due to 7 billion people burning hydrocarbons every day, air will be able to pick up more water from the oceans and dump it wherever that warm humid air mass collides with a cold air mass. Global warming will bring more extreme weather. To deny that is a litmus test for ignorance.

4 Mich-again  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:30:30pm

re: #2 freetoken

I expect that for the rest of my life, and the life of anyone reading this, and for the rest of this century, that confusion over climate change - what it means, why it is happening, and what it will cost us - will not only continue but flourish.

I disagree. It is very complicated to propagate a lie when the truth is so simple to understand. As air gets warmer its capacity to absorb water vapor increases at an increasing rate.

5 freetoken  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:47:10pm

So, the President is going to Myanmar, eh?

Myanmar: Police crack down on copper mine protesters

Witnesses say police in Myanmar used incendiary devices to disperse protesters demonstrating against the expansion of the country’s largest copper mine today, the New York Times reported. The raid on protesters’ camps near Monywa is the largest crackdown by Myanmar’s security forces since President Thein Sein’s civilian government assumed power almost a year ago.

Ashin Visara, a 28-year-old monk who was injured during the raid, told the New York Times that police threw “explosive devices” which started fires at the protesters’ camps. “And then they attacked us,” he added.

Since June, local farmers and monks have been protesting what they describe as forced evictions from their land so that the Chinese arms manufacturer which co-owns the mine with Myanmar’s military can expand the mine, BBC News reported.

[...]

6 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:49:51pm

Newt is on Jay Leno tonight

8 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:55:58pm

[Link: xkcd.com...]

9 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:57:22pm

The Chinese School For Aces

November 29, 2012: China has concluded that the only way to achieve victory in the air is to adopt Western pilot training methods. China is doing this in a big way. China is already getting rid of its thousands of old Cold War era warplanes. These were copies of Russian designs and Chinese air force experts noted that no one ever won a war with these aircraft. Since the 1990s China has been acquiring Western-style designs (MiG-29, Su-27/30) from Russia and developing similar aircraft. But these aircraft are only effective if operated by highly trained and experienced pilots. So China has provided the large quantities of fuel and spare parts to keep their several hundred modern fighters in the air a lot. This, however, was not enough. The pilots who started out on the old Cold War style aircraft did not become a lot better when moved to modern fighters. Something was missing and that turned out to be technical education and specialized training in the intricacies of modern air combat. That meant greater use of realistic flight simulators (so very dangerous maneuvers could be practiced). So the Chinese are doing all this, including establishing a “pilot university” that provides a four year academic and flight training program.

The Chinese Air Force now has a training unit that will accurately (as possible) portray enemy (especially American and Indian) aircraft and combat tactics. Thus there are three Blue-Army Aggressor Squadrons (Blue is the bad guys in Chinese training, Red is the good guys) for this. One is equipped with Su-30s, to represent American F-15s or Indian or Vietnamese Su-30s. Another has the J-10A, which is similar to the F-16. The third squadron has J-7s (Chinese copies of the MiG-21), which represent low end threats, like the many MiG-21s India still uses.

10 dragonath  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:59:08pm

re: #6 A Man for all Seasons

Cool, they can both tell Clinton jokes.

11 Mich-again  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:00:11pm

re: #5 freetoken

Afghanistan has more than a trillion dollars worth of known reserves for all sorts of valuable metals just waiting for development of the mines and infrastructure to get them to market. Which in my opinion is why we are still in Afghanistan after leaving Iraq. The Chinese and Indian mining firms are gobbling up the contracts while the US Marines run security detail until the mines are up and running. All that stuff about the Taliban and human rights? pfft..

12 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:00:51pm

A big part of the problem, these two stories were posted at free Republic in just the last hour and a half:
Evolution Isn't Science

First comment:

I never thought evolution made any sense. It's one reason I think science is overrated.

I guess this nebbish thinks computers are mined from the Earth, the internet is a natural phenomenon similar to sunlight, and alternating current and semi-conductors remain mere theories.

Lansing-area residents say wolf-like creature prowls neighborhood

If you think the Earth is 6000 years old you would have no trouble believing that scientists have missed a were-goomer terrorizing Michigan suburbs.

13 Mich-again  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:03:19pm

re: #12 Shiplord Kirel

From the Freeper comments..

I never thought evolution made any sense. It's one reason I think science is overrated.

As for me, I never thought Laplace transforms made any sense.. It's one reason I think math is overrated..

14 dragonath  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:06:35pm

Magnets.

Scientists are overrated.

15 Mich-again  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:06:48pm

I never thought prepositional phrases made any sense. It's one reason I think English class is overrated.

16 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:07:04pm

re: #9 Dark_Falcon

That's far more ... interesting & useful than the China whining that PGL likes to indulge in. I actually agree that China is our biggest strategic threat and stuff like this is where they can make a difference. Not that POS carrier they bought.

17 dragonath  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:09:30pm

I never thought poutine made any sense. It's one reason I think Canadians are overrated.

18 Mich-again  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:10:27pm

re: #9 Dark_Falcon

Maybe Lockheed can get the Chinese to pay the next $400 billion toward the development of the F-35??

19 Mich-again  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:15:11pm

I never thought depreciation tables made any sense. It's one reason I think accounting is overrated.

20 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:18:33pm

re: #16 William Barnett-Lewis

That's far more ... interesting & useful than the China whining that PGL likes to indulge in. I actually agree that China is our biggest strategic threat and stuff like this is where they can make a difference. Not that POS carrier they bought.

The Liaoning is just a means to an end. China sees her as a training ship, though combat capable if need be. They've actually got the right ideas for developing a naval aviation program.

21 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:21:56pm

re: #20 Dark_Falcon

The Liaoning is just a means to an end. China sees her as a training ship, though combat capable if need be. They've actually got the right ideas for developing a naval aviation program.

True, but they're all long-term, as in decades down the line. Building up a corps of experienced pilots and the ships to support them is gonna take a good long investment.

22 freetoken  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:26:53pm

Mighty quiet around here, earlier than normal. I wonder if some are at holiday parties, or on hot dates.

23 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:29:51pm

re: #20 Dark_Falcon

The Liaoning is just a means to an end. China sees her as a training ship, though combat capable if need be. They've actually got the right ideas for developing a naval aviation program.

Yes, and the IJN sank the USS Langley too... ;) The Liaoning is, how did that gentleman describe the Kirov? Oh yeah, a Navy Cross in waiting.

24 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:29:55pm

re: #21 Targetpractice

True, but they're all long-term, as in decades down the line. Building up a corps of experienced pilots and the ships to support them is gonna take a good long investment.

Yes, but China has proven able to think in the long term. The good news is that this is a problem we can counter and manage. The rise of China's navy doesn't have to mean war with the US.

25 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:30:50pm

re: #23 William Barnett-Lewis

Yes, and the IJN sank the USS Langley too... ;) The Liaoning is, how did that gentleman describe the Kirov? Oh yeah, a Navy Cross in waiting.

Did I say something dumb on that other thread?

26 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:32:32pm

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

Yes, but China has proven able to think in the long term. The good news is that this is a problem we can counter and manage. The rise of China's navy doesn't have to mean war with the US.

True, but it is proof that china is looking to expand its influence. Something we're going to have to either make peace with or para bellum.

27 Mich-again  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:32:53pm

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

The rise of China's navy doesn't have to mean war with the US.

Maybe they can start protecting oil tankers from the Mideast heading their way instead of the relying on the US Navy to do it for them for free.

28 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:38:03pm

re: #25 Dark_Falcon

Did I say something dumb on that other thread?

Eh? Not that I'm aware of. Just making a statement on the first carrier of the People's Army Navy.

29 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:40:20pm

re: #27 Mich-again

Maybe they can start protecting oil tankers from the Mideast heading their way instead of the relying on the US Navy to do it for them for free.

Only if we can then program our sub launched torps to act like Iranian sub launched torps... :eek:

30 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:46:52pm

Oy, I've killed the thread.

I'll check it's health in the morning.

Good night all!

31 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:52:12pm

I'm going to sign off as well. Sleep well, folks.

32 Political Atheist  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:52:56pm

re: #28 William Barnett-Lewis

The new Chinese passport map was illustrative in two ways. Literally and as a little expansionist rustling.
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

33 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 9:58:11pm

I think Chinese analysts look at things like the rise of the creationism cult and the widespread belief in ludicrous UN conspiracy theories. When they do, they probably see decadence and weakness, and opportunity.

34 Political Atheist  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:00:26pm

re: #33 Shiplord Kirel

I think Chinese analysts look at things like the rise of the creationism cult and the widespread belief in ludicrous UN conspiracy theories. When they do, they probably see decadence and weakness, and opportunity.

No wonder they took The Onion story as real.

35 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:05:20pm

re: #34 Political Atheist

No wonder they took The Onion story as real.

I can hear it now:

"But comrade reporter, that's ridiculous. Kim Jong Un as a sex symbol?"

"Most assuredly, comrade editor, but these are people who think the Earth is 6000 years old and the UN is going to invade the Texas hinterland."

"Oh. Okay, let's go with it."

36 Kragar  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 10:23:06pm

Jon Stewart: Fiscal cliff like firing an asteroid at ourselves

The late-night comedian noted the combination of across-the-board spending cuts and tax increases were created by Congress to motivate legislators. Stewart said the situation was like shooting an asteroid at the Earth to make sure we put in the hard work to protect ourselves from asteroids.

37 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:05:56pm

re: #36 Kragar

Jon Stewart: Fiscal cliff like firing an asteroid at ourselves

That's what gets me so much about the wingnuts right now, they're whining that the Dems won't "come to the table" and that it's imperative that the White House be the ones to make offers to the GOP for how to address this "cliff." But yet, it was the GOP who insisted on an enforcement mechanism, it was the GOP who insisted there would be no clean debt limit bill, and it was the GOP who insisted on a temporary extension of the Bush Tax Cuts rather than making the majority of them permanent.

From all appearances, it's the GOP who's under the gun, not the Dems. If we go over the "cliff," the Dems will not be the ones to take the blame.

38 TedStriker  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:17:31pm

re: #37 Targetpractice

That's what gets me so much about the wingnuts right now, they're whining that the Dems won't "come to the table" and that it's imperative that the White House be the ones to make offers to the GOP for how to address this "cliff." But yet, it was the GOP who insisted on an enforcement mechanism, it was the GOP who insisted there would be no clean debt limit bill, and it was the GOP who insisted on a temporary extension of the Bush Tax Cuts rather than making the majority of them permanent.

From all appearances, it's the GOP who's under the gun, not the Dems. If we go over the "cliff," the Dems will not be the ones to take the blame.

The RWNJs were so cocksure that President Obama would be voted out and that they could use his lame-duck status to get him to acquiesce on the deal this time around, knowing they could turn any refusal to kowtow to the Republicans into a media coup against the Democrats.

Now that President Obama and the Democrats have slightly strengthen their position in Congress (especially the Senate), Boehner and company are flailing for something, anything that they can use...and IMO, they're rolling snake eyes.

39 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:23:41pm

re: #38 TedStriker

The RWNJs were so cocksure that President Obama would be voted out and that they could use his lame-duck status to get him to acquiesce on the deal this time around, knowing they could turn any refusal to kowtow to the Republicans into a media coup against the Democrats.

Now that President Obama and the Democrats have slightly strengthen their position in Congress (especially the Senate), Boehner and company are flaing for something, anything that they can use...and IMO, they're rolling snake eyes.

Speaking of his Lordship Orange, at his little press conference today, he whined that the Dems haven't put forward any specific spending cuts. It takes a lot of balls to whine that the guy you're pressuring into something isn't making the choices you want.

40 freetoken  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:31:06pm

Know the group?

41 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:43:18pm

You know, I like using Wiki, I like the convenience it provides, but at the same time it seems like they're begging for money virtually every other week.

42 freetoken  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:50:33pm

re: #41 Targetpractice

You know, I like using Wiki, I like the convenience it provides, but at the same time it seems like they're begging for money virtually every other week.

Sort of like PBS, public schools, and your local TV preacher?

43 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 29, 2012 11:54:07pm

re: #42 freetoken

Sort of like PBS, public schools, and your local TV preacher?

Yeah, a lot like PBS. "You know, we've done all these wonderful things for you, you've shown us a lot of support...but we need some more money. Just a few dollars from all of you would do the trick."

44 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 12:02:19am

Boker tov lizardia! Well it's middle of the night for you but here in Jerusalem it's 10 in the morning!

For some reason, this fancy shmancy hotel we're staying at is primitive regarding internet access. It's not included as part of the amenities, you have to pay extra for it, and even then you are only allowed one connection per room even if both guests have their own laptops.

Other than that it's a very nice hotel, actually a PREMIUM hotel, which we chose primarily because it's right across the street from my daughter's apartment.

In Amsterdam we stayed at a crappy hotel, which we chose because it was close to the hotel we stayed last time but which was since bought and turned into luxury apartments. The hotel is located in a very quaint old neighborhood in a 200-year-old house, but unfortunately in the process of converting it to a hotel it was drywalled and drop-ceilinged to within an inch of its life and there was no quaintness whatsoever in the interior, just substandard tiny rooms. But at least there was free WiFi which this 4-star accommodation in Jerusalem hasn't figured out yet.

Last night I went over to my daughter's and gave the kids their Hanukkah presents a few days early. In our tradition there is no Santa: the GRANDPARENTS bring the presents! My granddaughter got a Fisher Price dollhouse with all the furniture and my grandson (who is 8) forewent opening his own present (a Lego jet) to build it for her.

The kids got totally hyper which is when I left my daughter with the raging swarm and went out for falafel.

45 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 12:05:36am

re: #37 Targetpractice

From all appearances, it's the GOP who's under the gun, not the Dems. If we go over the "cliff," the Dems will not be the ones to take the blame.

And that is the extent of the debate now: not how to avoid the FisCliff, but who is the one who gets stuck behind the wheel when we drive over it...

46 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 12:13:43am

re: #45 Sol Berdinowitz

And that is the extent of the debate now: not how to avoid the FisCliff, but who is the one who gets stuck behind the wheel when we drive over it...

From all appearances, the GOP seem bound and determined to be the ones who drive the country over the cliff, Thelma & Louise style.

47 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 12:14:44am

But they will still insist that they were forced to do so for the Good of the Nation, and will crash and burn still believing it...

48 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 12:24:25am

This laptop doesn't have the LGF bookmarket. How do I install it?

49 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 12:27:16am

found it.

50 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 12:27:17am

re: #47 Sol Berdinowitz

But they will still insist that they were forced to do so for the Good of the Nation, and will crash and burn still believing it...

Of course. Though I hear some speculating that Boehner's just doing all the whining before the press as a means of preparing them for when the deal comes. That there's some grand bargain in the making, being negotiated in secrecy, and it will be revealed late enough in the negotiations that there won't be time for an organized resistence.

Personally, I think that it's wishful thinking on the media's part. They want to believe that, behind all the rhetoric, there's still some measure of "bipartisanship" going on. They don't want to believe that the GOP would willingly let the country burn out of spite.

51 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 12:30:12am

It is starting to look as if Boehner knows that he will have to wait until the last mnute to avoid an attempt at a palace revolt within his own party.

52 researchok  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 12:39:06am

Morning, all

53 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 12:41:50am

re: #51 Sol Berdinowitz

It is starting to as if Boehner knows that he will have to wait until the last mnute to avoid an attempt at a palace revolt within his own party.

The revolt's already ongoing. Krauthammer advised today that the GOP should just "walk away," telling Republicans that they're the ones with leverage in this deal because Congressional Democrats will cave just to avoid being linked to Obama and the return to recession he's predicting.

They really are convinced that they can pull a "win" out of this. It's like Cold War generals who are trying to convince anybody will listen that you can "win" a nuclear war.

54 freetoken  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 12:42:31am

re: #51 Sol Berdinowitz

The GOP is in a weakened but still formidable position. They know that Obama had only weak coattails this election, and in 2 years, assuming turnout falls like usual in non-Presidential elections, the GOP will pick up seats.

It is a burn-the-fields tactic on the GOP's part, but the true believers among them know, beyond a doubt, that they are doing the "right" thing. This is something against which non-ideologues have a hard time fighting - the true believer.

John the Orange himself is simply a craftsman, who no doubt is comforted by knowing that each additional year he is Speaker he will find himself in future history books.

55 researchok  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 12:43:15am

re: #40 freetoken

Know the group?

[Embedded content]

One of the Marsalis brothers?

56 freetoken  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 12:43:45am

re: #55 researchok

One of the Marsalis brothers?

Nope. Much older than that (think 1953.)

57 researchok  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 12:44:42am

re: #56 freetoken

That's (way) pre me!

I'll have to look around...

58 researchok  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 12:47:25am

OK, I'm lost.

Way too much out there.

59 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 12:49:57am

A poster over at TPM pretty much put it all in a nutshell: The White House's offer that Boehner declared is "not serious" and which McConnell has admitted laughing at as it was presented is very likely going to be the best deal that the GOP will get. They don't have a counter-offer, just a "plan" that involves insisting the White House come up with a deal that they deign to smile upon.

60 freetoken  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 12:51:15am

re: #58 researchok

Phil Moore Four.

61 researchok  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 12:53:10am

re: #60 freetoken

Nice!

You're the LGF overnight Wolfman Jack

62 freetoken  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 1:01:05am

re: #61 researchok

I used to listen to his syndicated show way back when.

63 freetoken  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 1:02:53am
64 researchok  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 1:05:05am

re: #62 freetoken

He was a hit when I was a kid in the UK

A big hit.

65 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 1:05:37am

I grew up in a golden age when there were no fewer than three underground FM stations in Chicago. Especially late at night they would play obscure old novelty songs, Firesign Theater and National Lampoon comedy sketches and whole album sides mixed in with the usual rock and pop songs.

Ruined my taste for commercial radio programming.

66 researchok  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 1:10:24am

re: #63 freetoken

Winston on piano?

67 researchok  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 1:11:41am

re: #65 Sol Berdinowitz

You guys were way ahead of us in that regard.

BBC had a monopoly.

And they had Jimmy Saville.
//

68 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 1:13:35am

re: #67 researchok

You guys were way ahead of us in that regard.

BBC had a monopoly.

And they had Jimmy Saville.
//

Unfortunately, they all died out by the end of the 1970's, we had an outstanding one in Phoneix of all places, KDKB, but it also sent full-on commercial by 1980.

69 researchok  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 1:19:18am

Here's a later reference to WJ in Europe.

All the pirate stations played his show. For a while, they were the closest thing we had to underground radio.

70 researchok  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 1:21:58am

WJ 1976, AFN-Europe

The Man with Candle in His Nose

71 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 1:52:59am

Get him together with this guy

72 [deleted]  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 3:23:46am
73 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 3:47:59am

I personally do not care about the personal lives of anyone who posts here beyond what they share voluntarily about themselves.

And even that is often TMI for me...

74 Obdicut  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 4:26:56am

re: #72 xbjllb

What the fuck are you talking about?

75 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 4:27:35am

re: #74 Obdicut

What the fuck are you talking about?

Remember evacuateisrael.org? That thing just dropped a turd in here.

76 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 4:28:08am
77 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 4:34:00am

Huh. What did I walk into here?
Morning Honcos.

78 Obdicut  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 4:35:24am

re: #75 Vicious Babushka

Remember evacuateisrael.org? That thing just dropped a turd in here.

Ooohhh. Wowzers.

79 Obdicut  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 4:36:29am

re: #72 xbjllb

Okay, can you back this statement up, at all?

Henry Kissinger and no less than sixteen different US intelligence agencies have determined and come out publicly that the State of Israel will not exist in ten years time. We have much to do together, and time is short.

First of all: Name the sixteen US intelligence agencies.

Second: Source quotes from them or Kissinger saying that Israel won't exist in ten years time.

Third: Is this photo of Michael Feldman photoshopped?

Image: michaelfull.jpg

80 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 4:36:32am

re: #75 Vicious Babushka

Remember evacuateisrael.org? That thing just dropped a turd in here.

What was that site? I don't wanna go look.

81 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 4:40:28am

The only thing I agree with on that site is that Israel exists out of political expediency and not because it is a manifestation of Divine Will.

I personally find it expedient to continue their existence, regardless of how God stands on the issue...

BBL

82 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 4:47:49am

St. Pete man previously convicted of sexual battery accused of molesting two girls
ST. PETERSBURG — A St. Petersburg man who was convicted of sexual battery more than 30 years ago was accused Thursday of molesting two girls.

Testimony from a 24-year-old woman, who said she was molested when she was 9 years old, led to the arrest of Robert Frederick Hall, police reported.

Hall, 80, is also accused of molesting a 7-year-old girl earlier this year, an arrest report states.
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]
Rot in Hell you fuck.

83 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 4:52:44am

Fugitive doctor accused of child molestation a dozen years ago is captured in Morocco
In the fall of 2001, Dr. Rory P. Doyle slipped out of the country a day before he was supposed to face a jury on charges that he molested two local children.
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]

Found that other douche a cell mate.

84 Obdicut  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 4:55:30am

re: #81 Sol Berdinowitz

There's a lot of craziness in there, but probably the biggest one is the assertion that the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto thought they were free and safe.

85 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 4:57:39am

re: #81 Sol Berdinowitz

The only thing I agree with on that site is that Israel exists out of political expediency and not because it is a manifestation of Divine Will.

I personally find it expedient to continue their existence, regardless of how God stands on the issue...

BBL

Israel was established and exists in its current form as a secular state, not as the G-Dly promised Kingdom of David.

However the premise of EvacuateIsrael.org is that all the Jews should VOLUNTARILY move out.

To that suggestion I say, GFY.

86 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 4:57:47am

re: #84 Obdicut

There's a lot of craziness in there, but probably the biggest one is the assertion that the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto thought they were free and safe.

Sendler. Bad ass.

87 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 5:08:37am

re: #84 Obdicut

There's a lot of craziness in there, but probably the biggest one is the assertion that the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto thought they were free and safe.

There were posters!!!
Image: File:Afisz-kara_%C5%9Bmierci_za_pomoc_%C5%BBydom.jpg
Wait...

88 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 5:09:40am

Damn it.

89 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 5:10:22am

re: #44 Vicious Babushka

The kids got totally hyper which is when I left my daughter with the raging swarm and went out for falafel.

Ah, mission accomplished then.
;)

90 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 5:10:40am
91 Flounder  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 5:10:46am

Poor guy loses everything and the fire department bills him for $1,400.
[Link: www.timesunion.com...]
By my math it comes to $317.55, the rest must be shipping and handling. That's why we call the volunteer fire departments up here cellar savers. (It's a joke, I know they are dedicated, but when you live in the styx, it takes a while to get there.)

92 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 5:12:53am

re: #90 Cannadian Club Akbar

Image: Afisz-kara_%C5%9Bmierci_za_pomoc_%C5%BBydom.jpg

German poster announcing officially the death penalty to every Pole who assists Jews, it reads:

GENERAL NOTICE

W.r.t.: Capital punishment for support to Jews, who have left the jewish settlement without authorisation.

Of late numerous Jews have departed from the designated Jewish living district. They are as yet delayed in the District of Warsaw. I point your attention thereto, that by the third Decree of the Governor General concerning settlement allocation of the General Government (VBl. GG. S. 595) of 15.10.1941, not only the Jews who in this way, departed unauthorised from their allocated living district, will receive capital punishment, but that the same punishment awaits those, who knowingly aid such Jews by harbouring them. Hereby is not only included the furnishing of overnight facilities and health care, but also any additional assistance, for instance transportation in a vehicle of any sort, purchasing of Jewish business interests, and so forth. I hereby appeal to the residents of the District of Warsaw, with respect to any Jews, who are residing outside the designated Jewish living areas, to be immediately reported to the nearest police station or constabulary post. Those who participated in assisting Jews, or who at this time are assisting Jews, who from this point however to 9.9.42 at 16 hours, inform the nearest police service station, will NOT BE LEGALLY PROSECUTED. In the same way, punitive prosecution will not proceed against those, who from this point to 9.9.42 at 16 hours, deliver or report valuables purchased from Jews at Niska Street 20, Warsaw, or submit a declaration to the nearest police station or constabulary post.

Warsaw, 5th September, 1942.

The SS- and Police-führer of the District of Warsaw

93 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 5:17:50am

re: #65 Sol Berdinowitz

I grew up in a golden age when there were no fewer than three underground FM stations in Chicago. Especially late at night they would play obscure old novelty songs, Firesign Theater and National Lampoon comedy sketches and whole album sides mixed in with the usual rock and pop songs.

Ruined my taste for commercial radio programming.

Good Morning,

We have WOJB, technically a public radio station serving the Reservation but they're like a cross between the old underground radio & the '80's college radio along with news and powwows from "Indian Country". They stream so you can check out their shows - best times for music are tonight from 6:30PM to 1:00AM. Should be some good stuff.

94 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 5:19:20am

re: #72 xbjllb

Meh, hit report, let Stinky do his job.

95 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 5:37:56am

I went to the bathroom and my friend left his phone in there. I grabbed it and brought it downstairs as he was looking around and put it right in the middle of the table. Fun with old people. Heh. (He's only a year older)

96 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 5:48:39am

re: #94 William Barnett-Lewis

Meh, hit report, let Stinky do his job.

Yeah, but I still need to clean out the freezer to make space for the troll's carcass after Stinky clubs it. I don't think I'll be able to grill it till tomorrow.

97 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 5:51:09am

re: #92 Cannadian Club Akbar

Good find, CCA.

98 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 5:54:45am

re: #97 Dark_Falcon

Good find, CCA.

I have some Polish and some German blood. I won't be visiting Ancestry anytime soon.

99 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 6:19:24am

re: #98 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have some Polish and some German blood. I won't be visiting Ancestry anytime soon.

Can't say I blame you for not wanting to know. That is one of those few cases where its likely better to not know.

100 darthstar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 6:50:57am

Mornin' everyone. I feel like shit. Headache and sore throat from Wednesday now migrated into a deep phlegm filled chest cough. I hate getting sick...especially since I need to go up to Tahoe this weekend and set up my ski house in the middle of a lovely Sierra storm.

Other than that, things are just peachy.

101 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 6:52:47am

re: #100 darthstar

Mornin' everyone. I feel like shit. Headache and sore throat from Wednesday now migrated into a deep phlegm filled chest cough. I hate getting sick...especially since I need to go up to Tahoe this weekend and set up my ski house in the middle of a lovely Sierra storm.

Other than that, things are just peachy.

My advice: Forget Tahoe and call your doctor. That sort of cough may be a sign of something dangerous. Get it looked at.

102 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 6:57:14am

re: #98 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have some Polish and some German blood

Haven't I told you, put gloves on when disposing the bodies !!

103 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:01:21am

re: #102 sattv4u2

I have some Polish and some German blood

Haven't I told you, put gloves on when disposing the bodies !!

Again. If you try to put whole bodies in the trunk you will lose space. Cutting them up is the answer.

104 darthstar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:02:10am

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

My advice: Forget Tahoe and call your doctor. That sort of cough may be a sign of something dangerous. Get it looked at.

Nah...I'll jump in the car in the next hour, drive up to the city and bring my wife a change of clothes as she stayed with a friend last night, and then come home and blanket down for the day with hot tea.

All my doctor is going to do is give me antibiotics that soften my stool for seven days. Then again, maybe that isn't such a bad idea. And my doctor works out of a little house in Half Moon Bay with a single secretary...he's probably a couple of years from retirement, so keeps his schedule open. There's never anyone in the waiting room. I call, they tell me to come in, and I'm out in ten minutes.

As far as Tahoe goes, if this storm turns colder, it'll probably end up closing the roads anyway, so I can play that by ear...worst case, I take next Wednesday off and we drive up and do the set up on a week day.

105 Henchman Ghazi-808  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:02:41am

re: #79 Obdicut

Third: Is this photo of Michael Feldman photoshopped?

Image: michaelfull.jpg

I see layers. Lots of layers.

106 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:08:35am

re: #104 darthstar

Nah...I'll jump in the car in the next hour, drive up to the city and bring my wife a change of clothes as she stayed with a friend last night, and then come home and blanket down for the day with hot tea.

All my doctor is going to do is give me antibiotics that soften my stool for seven days. Then again, maybe that isn't such a bad idea. And my doctor works out of a little house in Half Moon Bay with a single secretary...he's probably a couple of years from retirement, so keeps his schedule open. There's never anyone in the waiting room. I call, they tell me to come in, and I'm out in ten minutes.

As far as Tahoe goes, if this storm turns colder, it'll probably end up closing the roads anyway, so I can play that by ear...worst case, I take next Wednesday off and we drive up and do the set up on a week day.

Sounds smart. I wasn't trying to be a worry-wort, but the experiences of my friends and family have taught me that the symptom you described should not be ignored.

Stay safe and feel better.

107 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:09:26am

re: #104 darthstar

re: #106 Dark_Falcon

Stay safe and feel better.

OR

Drink heavily and drive fast!!
/

108 Henchman Ghazi-808  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:11:47am

Let The Bodies Hit The Floor sung by a parrot.

Pretty much guarantees making your day better.

109 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:12:05am

Why do we give advice? Can't we just let Darth die?
///

110 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:12:16am

re: #98 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have some Polish and some German blood. I won't be visiting Ancestry anytime soon.

I likewise, paternal grandmother was named Schultz, from Bohemia, granddad was from Slovakia, the surmame is a common one in southern Poland and Western Ukraine

111 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:13:45am

re: #109 Cannadian Club Akbar

Why do we give advice? Can't we just let Darth die?
///

hence, 109

112 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:14:04am

re: #109 Cannadian Club Akbar

Why do we give advice? Can't we just let Darth die?
///

Because giving advice is good citizenship, unlike paying additional taxes, which is Socialism.

///

113 darthstar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:15:03am

re: #106 Dark_Falcon

Sounds smart. I wasn't trying to be a worry-wort, but the experiences of my friends and family have taught me that the symptom you described should not be ignored.

Stay safe and feel better.

Thanks...I usually just ride it out and suck up some extra movie time. Unfortunately, there aren't many good movies left on Netflix to stream anymore...though I did watch "The Lincoln Lawyer" last night (Matthew McConaughey as a semi-ethical defense atty who finds himelf in a bind with that guy from Antitrust)...and William H. Macy plays a cool, albeit brief, role. Not bad. Could spool that up again.

114 darthstar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:15:26am

re: #109 Cannadian Club Akbar

Why do we give advice? Can't we just let Darth die?
///

LET DARTH DIE! LET DARTH DIE!...wait, what?

115 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:16:58am

re: #113 darthstar

"The Lincoln Lawyer"

3 1/2 (out of 5) stars

McConaughey was good, but not his best

116 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:18:01am

re: #114 darthstar

LET DARTH DIE! LET DARTH DIE!...wait, what?

LEAVE ME HIS TAHOE SKI HOUSE
LEAVE ME HIS TAHOE SKI HOUSE

117 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:18:51am

re: #116 sattv4u2

LEAVE ME HIS TAHOE SKI HOUSE
LEAVE ME HIS TAHOE SKI HOUSE

SMACK! THUMP! POW!
SMACK! THUMP! POW!

118 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:19:05am

re: #116 sattv4u2

LEAVE ME HIS TAHOE SKI HOUSE
LEAVE ME HIS TAHOE SKI HOUSE

I get the bong collection.

119 darthstar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:19:56am

re: #115 sattv4u2

"The Lincoln Lawyer"

3 1/2 (out of 5) stars

McConaughey was good, but not his best

Like I said, not bad. I do like friendly drug dealing biker gang though...it's always nice to humanize that small sub-culture and illustrate the good they can do.

120 darthstar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:21:50am

re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar

I get the bong collection.

That's long gone...and I had a very nice glassware collection too mostly pipes and burblers, but I appreciate fine craftsmanship so tended to pick up a new piece at every festival where glass blowers were working.

121 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:22:02am

re: #119 darthstar

Like I said, not bad. I do like friendly drug dealing biker gang though...it's always nice to humanize that small sub-culture and illustrate the good they can do.

OK, I'll bite: What good does a biker gang do?

122 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:23:54am

re: #121 Dark_Falcon

OK, I'll bite: What good does a biker gang do?

If he tells you, it will spoil the movie (if you wanted to see it)

123 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:24:29am

re: #85 Vicious Babushka

Israel was established and exists in its current form as a secular state, not as the G-Dly promised Kingdom of David.

However the premise of EvacuateIsrael.org is that all the Jews should VOLUNTARILY move out.

To that suggestion I say, GFY.

Yes, I agree that they should be a secular state, one established on historical and political grounds. Those who see it as some sort of re-established Kingdom of David (and act accordingly) are the ones who really ought to deport themselves.

124 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:25:15am

re: #121 Dark_Falcon

OK, I'll bite: What good does a biker gang do?

I worked for a place that had a Christian Bike Club come in for breakfast on Sundays. Harley riders with scripture all over the bikes/patches.

125 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:27:32am

re: #124 Cannadian Club Akbar

I worked for a place that had a Christian Bike Club come in for breakfast on Sundays. Harley riders with scripture all over the bikes/patches.

lemme guess

The name of the club was The Holy Rollers!!

126 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:27:49am

re: #123 Sol Berdinowitz

Yes, I agree that they should be a secular state, one established on historical and political grounds. Those who see it as some sort of re-established Kingdom of David (and act accordingly) are the ones who really ought to deport themselves.

Stinky has clubbed the troll. I just finished cleaning its remains for eating, and I'll put it in the freezer till I have time to grill it tomorrow.

127 darthstar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:36:57am

re: #121 Dark_Falcon

OK, I'll bite: What good does a biker gang do?

They share the love.

128 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:40:16am

My Dance Card is full today.

Hold down the bunker while I'm gone.

and have a good Friday.

129 darthstar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:40:41am

You know what really scares Republicans more than the end of the Bush tax cuts? Having to argue for making "The Obama Tax Cuts" permanent in 2016. The Bush tax cuts are the last positive remnant of his presidency, regardless of how ill-budgeted they were.

130 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:42:45am

"Grover Norquist": the two scariest words a Repuclican can hear, besides "Buenos Dias!"
-Stephen Colbert

131 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:43:08am

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

My advice: Forget Tahoe and call your doctor. That sort of cough may be a sign of something dangerous. Get it looked at.

You have a ski house in Tahoe?

132 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:45:54am

re: #131 Holidays are Family Fun Time

You have a ski house in Tahoe?

Well, it's not exactly a ski house
And it's not exactly in Tahoe

But Ski House in Tahoe sounds a helluva lot better than Cardboard Shack in East Saint Louise!

133 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:56:59am

re: #131 Holidays are Family Fun Time

You have a ski house in Tahoe?

No, Darthstar does.

134 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:57:52am

ah!

135 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 8:14:21am

BBT

136 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 8:18:01am

Good Morning Honcos!

137 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 8:18:48am

re: #136 Darth Vader Gargoyle

Good Morning Honcos!

Did you bring coffee??

138 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 8:20:13am

Not many mentions this morning but the Egyptian draft constitution gives clerics legislative oversight
Islam’s status unchanged in Egypt draft constitution, al-Azhar made reference

An assembly drafting Egypt’s new constitution voted on Thursday to keep the principles of Islamic law as the main source of legislation, unchanged from the previous constitution in force under former President Hosni Mubarak.
...
While Article Two of the constitution – describing the source of legislation – stays the same, the constitution includes new provisions explaining what is meant by “the principles” of Islamic law, known as sharia.

The assembly also approved a new article that states that Al-Azhar, a seat of Sunni Muslim learning, must be consulted on “matters related to the Islamic sharia”.

139 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 8:21:59am

re: #138 Killgore Trout

Not many mentions this morning but the Egyptian draft constitution gives clerics legislative oversight
Islam’s status unchanged in Egypt draft constitution, al-Azhar made reference

Sharia: first we take Cairo, then we take Washington...

/

140 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 8:24:39am

Coffee is gone. On to Diet Coke.

141 Political Atheist  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 8:24:54am

Maybe not worth Paging but a good laugh this morning

North Korea Has Found a Secret Unicorn Lair, Apparently
[Link: www.theatlanticwire.com...]

142 ReamWorks SKG  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 8:25:10am

I bought stamps today at Safeway and shoved them into my bag without looking. They're Christmas stamps! I can't use them on Chanukkah cards!

Image: 2012-Santa-Claus-Christmas-Postage-Stamps.jpeg

But there's something odd about them. Don't "Forever" Christmas stamps indicate a lack of faith about a "Second Coming?" Why aren't Christians offended?

143 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 8:25:53am

re: #138 Killgore Trout

Not many mentions this morning

Nothing to see here
Move along

144 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 8:27:13am

re: #142 ReamWorks SKG

I bought stamps today at Safeway and shoved them into my bag without looking. They're Christmas stamps! I can't use them on Chanukkah cards!

Image: 2012-Santa-Claus-Christmas-Postage-Stamps.jpeg

But there's something odd about them. Don't "Forever" Christmas stamps indicate a lack of faith about a "Second Coming?" Why aren't Christians offended?

We figure we can take them with us!!

145 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 8:27:13am

re: #142 ReamWorks SKG

I bought stamps today at Safeway and shoved them into my bag without looking. They're Christmas stamps! I can't use them on Chanukkah cards!

Image: 2012-Santa-Claus-Christmas-Postage-Stamps.jpeg

But there's something odd about them. Don't "Forever" Christmas stamps indicate a lack of faith about a "Second Coming?" Why aren't Christians offended?

Maybe you could draw a Star of David on Santa's sleigh and convert the deer's antlers to menorahs.

146 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 8:28:48am

re: #145 Killgore Trout

Maybe you could draw a Star of David on Santa's sleigh and convert the deer's antlers to menorahs.

I also notice the forever is crossed out

forever

Santa has a sense of humor

147 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 8:32:50am

re: #140 Darth Vader Gargoyle

Coffee is gone. On to Diet Coke.

blech

148 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 8:33:21am

Ah well

Off to ErrandVille!!

149 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 8:34:26am

How about a stamp for Channukah Harry?

150 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 8:35:19am

I know we don't cover this stuff here anymore but I just stumbled across this
A Palestinian stone-throwing protester runs as he holds a sling during clashes with Israeli security officers near Ramallah (pic)

A Palestinian stone-throwing protester runs as he holds a sling during clashes with Israeli security officers at a protest against Jewish settlements, in the West Bank village of Nabi Saleh, near Ramallah November 30, 2012. REUTERS/Marko Djuric

Of course he's not hurling rocks at soldiers, he's just "running with a sling"!
/

151 ReamWorks SKG  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 8:36:44am

re: #146 sattv4u2

That's how the USPS has their sample images. I guess so people won't steal Christmas stamps by printing the images on their ink-jet printers.

Which reminds me of this old NY Times story:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

THE Christian punk band Relient K built its audience by playing songs of faith for the Christian marketplace. Except for their devotional lyrics, the band sounds indistinguishable from a secular rock group. And the audience, in turn, has responded like fans of other musical genres: downloading the songs free from unauthorized file-sharing services.

In the last month, more than 340,000 people have helped to give away the band's songs by offering free downloads on file-sharing services like KaZaA, according to BigChampagne, a company that monitors Internet file-sharing.

As the Christian music industry gathers this week in Nashville for the Dove Award, its equivalent of the Grammys, high on the agenda will be the findings of a new online marketing study commissioned by the Gospel Music Association that suggests that Christian teenagers are nearly as likely to download unauthorized files as their non-Christian peers.

152 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 8:38:02am

Looks like Harry's Place is gone for good. No parting statement. Too bad. It was a good blog.

153 Obdicut  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 8:40:34am

re: #150 Killgore Trout

I know we don't cover this stuff here anymore

This sentence should be enshrined in the passive-aggressive hall of fame.

I think that's in Scranton.

154 efuseakay  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 8:40:44am

re: #113 darthstar

Thanks...I usually just ride it out and suck up some extra movie time. Unfortunately, there aren't many good movies left on Netflix to stream anymore...though I did watch "The Lincoln Lawyer" last night (Matthew McConaughey as a semi-ethical defense atty who finds himelf in a bind with that guy from Antitrust)...and William H. Macy plays a cool, albeit brief, role. Not bad. Could spool that up again.

Clue, if you haven't already. :)

155 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 8:44:58am

re: #151 ReamWorks SKG

That's how the USPS has their sample images. I guess so people won't steal Christmas stamps by printing the images on their ink-jet printers.

Which reminds me of this old NY Times story:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Christian teenagers are nearly as likely to download unauthorized files as their non-Christian peers.

And just as likely to get divorced...

156 Gus  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 8:46:27am

re: #150 Killgore Trout

I know we don't cover this stuff here anymore but I just stumbled across this
A Palestinian stone-throwing protester runs as he holds a sling during clashes with Israeli security officers near Ramallah (pic)

Of course he's not hurling rocks at soldiers, he's just "running with a sling"!
/

Uh, what part of "stone-throwing" do you not understand?

A Palestinian stone-throwing protester runs as he holds a sling during clashes with Israeli security officers at a protest against Jewish settlements, in the West Bank village of Nabi Saleh, near Ramallah November 30, 2012. REUTERS/Marko Djuric

157 dragonath  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 8:47:38am

re: #153 Obdicut

This sentence should be enshrined in the passive-aggressive hall of fame.

I think that's in Scranton.

No, no, no, no.

Wilkes-Barre.

158 Stanghazi  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 9:34:45am

Was the thread sling-shotted to oblivion?

159 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 9:35:44am

Interesting contrast in presentation styles just now on CNN.

Obama speaking at a toy factory in eastern PA about tax cuts, fiscal cliff, etc. Matter-of-fact, supplies details, and states that things can be done with some cooperation. Supplies context, addresses nuance, and acts as a leader. Followed shortly by clips of Boehner and a rep from Texas (Poe?) acting emotional, combative, and coming across as children in comparison.

Followed immediately by commercials selling gold, and a political ad from some PAC about taxes on dividends going up! Contact Obama and complain! Now! (And deliberately blurring the difference between the tax rates on interest and dividends (which follows the rates on earned income) and capital gains (which uses a different rate).)

160 GunstarGreen  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 9:45:30am

re: #150 Killgore Trout

I know we don't cover this stuff here anymore

Between you and NJDHF, I'd say LGF gets at least its alloted daily dose of "Look at those wacky Palestinian subhumans!" content.

161 Gus  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 9:53:13am

re: #160 GunstarGreen

Between you and NJDHF, I'd say LGF gets at least its alloted daily dose of "Look at those wacky Palestinian subhumans!" content.

Others are more subtle.

162 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 10:03:59am

No more car swarms.

163 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 10:10:51am

Ah the elusive and mythical commenter who practices both misogyny and misandry really does exist...

But do men have a menstrual cycle? Nope. Do men give birth? Nope. So there is no way men and women can be the same, our sexual organs are not the same, the male penis is extrovert, outside his body, showing his wheel of thought spins outward, the female vagina is introvert, showing her wheel of thought spins inwards.

This is also revealed in our sexual organ function. For men it spins outward, he will pay for visual porn, and in that money we find that women spend equally on romance novels, showing her sex is operated on a story playing in her head. Now mind you. Men call this a dysfunctional neurosis in women, for not having sex like a man. But men truly have no clue the creature they are having sex with. You can pull any man off the street and ask him to explain the science of the female tampon, he won't be able to respond, and most women will deny it to!...

...Oh it's simple, they have books and books of cases on record that reveal all the evidence of what we are. If a man gets to play serial killer, the woman gets to play that game to! That is why men invented abortion, so they could teach women to be their sex slaves. Feminism has volumes and volumes of cold hard facts through years and years of research of the gender game, and how men hate women, but love sex!

Gotta love her "I'm not sexist because I hate everyone equally, I'm only being a realist about these things" attitude. She doesn't even realize that she is being almost as insulting to women as she is towards men either. :(

164 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 10:15:24am

Speaking of less than rational behavior, the non-rationals of the far right have added the UN Convention on Rights of Persons with Disabilities to their ever-growing target list. Unlike the mythical gun confiscation treaty, this is an actual treaty and the Senate is being asked to ratify it. As always since 1789, none of its provisions can be enacted in the US if they are found to be unconstitutional.

The FRC's Ken Blackwell ignores the realities of constitutional law and precedent and sounds the clarion call of ignorance and misinformation (freeper re-post):
Independence Forever! Don't Ratify the UN Disabilities Treaty

The Heritage Foundation has warned against this document, which will seriously compromise American sovereignty. Heritage experts refer to it as another UN power grab. They’re right.

Blackwell goes on to denounce the various UN-accredited NGOs that he sees as a major source of anti-American policy and diabolical machination at the UN. He adds a somewhat embarrassed admission that FRC itself is a UN-accredited NGO, but that's okay because they aren't evil leftists.

165 Kragar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 10:26:38am

Federal judge says ‘perpetuation of the human race’ justifies Nevada gay marriage ban

Jones also contended that the state had an interest in “maintenance of the traditional institution of civil marriage as between one man and one woman” because heterosexual couples could produce offspring.

Human beings are created through the conjugation of one man and one woman. The percentage of human beings conceived through non-traditional methods is minuscule and adoption, the form of child-rearing in which same-sex couples may typically participate together, is not an alternative means of creating children, but rather a social backstop for when traditional biological families fail. The perpetuation of the human race depends upon traditional procreation between men and women. The institution developed in our society, its predecessor societies, and by nearly all societies on Earth throughout history to solidify, standardize, and legalize the relationship between a man, a woman, and their offspring, is civil marriage between one man and one woman.

In his ruling, Jones warned that marriage rights for LGBT people could lead to “an increased percentage of out-of-wedlock children, single-parent families, difficulties in property disputes after the dissolution of what amount to common law marriages in a state where such marriages are not recognized, or other unforeseen consequences.”

This judge is full of utter and complete horseshit.

166 Kragar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 10:29:48am

Not Using Fossil Fuels is an Insult to God

Earlier this month, the Religious Right's favorite climate change-denying "expert," Calvin Beisner of the Cornwall Alliance, appeared on American Family Radio where he declared that believing in climate change "is an insult to God." Yesterday, when he joined Bryan Fischer on "Focal Point" for yet another discussion about the "myth" of global warming, both he and Fischer declared that failure to use coal, oil, and natural gas is an insulting rejection of the gifts that God has given to us - gifts which, incidentally, He buried deep in the earth because He delights in our search for and discovery of them:

167 TedStriker  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 10:30:15am
168 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 10:30:35am

re: #163 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Man 1: How can we get women to be our sex slaves?

Man 2: Why don't we start a religion that has arranged marriages, makes all property rights male, says that only males can be leaders, and that makes divorce a sin and infidelity a capital offense?

Man 1: No, no, that sounds like a lot of work and way too complicated. Besides who would ever fall for a religion like that, do you really think people are that stupid?

Man 2: Well we could just...invent abortion?

Man 1: That's it, your a genius!

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169 GunstarGreen  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 10:37:24am

re: #165 Kragar

Federal judge says ‘perpetuation of the human race’ justifies Nevada gay marriage ban

This judge is full of utter and complete horseshit.

It always angers me, each time this lame excuse is brought up, that nobody stands up in the courtroom and demands to know why infertile people are allowed to marry. You know, as the purpose of the institution of marriage is procreation and all.

170 Kragar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 10:43:24am

re: #169 GunstarGreen

It always angers me, each time this lame excuse is brought up, that nobody stands up in the courtroom and demands to know why infertile people are allowed to marry. You know, as the purpose of the institution of marriage is procreation and all.

Its a well known fact allowing homosexual marriage will instantly abolish every heterosexual marriage and homosexual sex will be the only legally allowed form of sexual activity.

171 Kragar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 10:44:31am

re: #167 TedStriker

*headdesk*

God has a well known love of scavenger hunts.

172 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 10:46:38am

re: #167 TedStriker

So, I guess ignoring God's breath (wind) and luminescence (sunshine) shouldn't be treated as an insult to God? /

173 Kragar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 10:51:45am

Governor Blames Teens For His Failed Abstinence Only Policies, Says They ‘Do Not Care’ About Birth Control

At an event this week to address the issue of unintended pregnancy in the state, Gov. Phil Bryant (R) told reporters he believes that although most adolescents do know how to obtain and use contraception, “the problem is teenagers do not care enough” about using birth control.

The GOP governor cited an education campaign that his administration sponsored this year as an example of the steps he’s taking to address the problem:

Bryant appointed a group earlier this year to study ways to reduce teenage pregnancy, and it has also sponsored town-hall meetings in Jackson and Lexington. The group has posted several billboards around the state with a photo of a pregnant belly, complete with stretch marks, next to the slogan: “Scars may fade. A baby is FOREVER.” [...]

Bryant told The Daily Leader that town-hall meetings to discuss teen pregnancy are important. “The road to success is in having an open, frank discussion and saying we need to stop this,” Bryant said.

Bryant has said repeatedly that he believes abstinence-only is the best approach to teaching young people about sex. It’s the approach that’s been used for years by the school districts that already were teaching optional classes about sex education.

In fact, Bryant’s approach to reducing the number of unintended pregnancies in his state is directly contradictory. Even though he claims Mississippi’s high teen pregnancy rate is not due to a lack of education about birth control, and rather a disregard for using it, the reality is that many teens choose to forgo contraception because they are grossly misinformed about how effective it is. According to the Centers for Disease Control, about one third of teen mothers decided not to use birth control when they became sexually active because they just didn’t believe they could get pregnant.

174 Charles Johnson  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 11:04:32am

So, I looked out the window this morning and noticed that everything is all wet. Then I see there's actually water dropping out of the sky! Bizarre. Anyone ever seen this before?

175 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 11:07:58am

re: #174 Charles Johnson

So, I looked out the window this morning and noticed that everything is all wet. Then I see there's actually water dropping out of the sky! Bizarre. Anyone ever seen this before?

It's Obama's fault. Unless it's needed (like in Texas) in which case it is to Rick Perry's credit due to prayer.
//

176 dragonath  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 11:10:30am
177 engineer cat  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 11:12:12am

re: #174 Charles Johnson

So, I looked out the window this morning and noticed that everything is all wet. Then I see there's actually water dropping out of the sky! Bizarre. Anyone ever seen this before?

there was a screwup and we were sent seattle's weather by mistake

in washington state today it's 62 degrees and sunny

178 Kragar  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 11:14:38am

re: #174 Charles Johnson

So, I looked out the window this morning and noticed that everything is all wet. Then I see there's actually water dropping out of the sky! Bizarre. Anyone ever seen this before?

That would be God crying because we hate him.
/

179 engineer cat  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 11:15:15am

Thursday night, Republicans called the White House’s proposal, submitted by Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, “a complete break from reality,” citing the White House’s starting line of $1.6 trillion in additional revenue

apparently democrats have been overcome with a bizarre hallucination that it is possible to raise money and cut the deficit by increasing taxes

180 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 11:18:01am

re: #174 Charles Johnson

So, I looked out the window this morning and noticed that everything is all wet. Then I see there's actually water dropping out of the sky! Bizarre. Anyone ever seen this before?

Beware, it might be the start of one of those "Judgements from God" that Bryan Fischer is always warning us about.

///

181 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, Nov 30, 2012 11:21:36am

re: #176 dragonath

North Korea Has Found a Secret Unicorn Lair

I never knew till now that Unicorns even had "lairs." I always thought they just lived in fields and woodlands like other horses do.


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