Conservative Fact Check Fires Pamela Geller's 'TechDude'

Conservative Fact Check Fires Pamela Geller’s ‘TechDude’

Discovers that he forged his credentials. Still apparently not clear on much else.

Fred72

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Conservative Fact Check, the fact-checking site that’s probably not a parody, has parted ways with Pamela Geller’s “TechDude,” who came up with the nonsensical “heat map” theory behind the obviously forged birth certificate of Kenyan Usurper Barack Shabazz Hussein Obama:

I should point out that I have not met “TechDude” in person. He contacted me via email shortly after this site was launched, and pointed me to his work featured on the Atlas Shrugs blog. I was impressed, and offered him the (unpaid) position as our resident technical expert.

When I confronted him with the information about the plagiarized credentials, he first claimed not to be the same “TechDude” who had forged those credentials. But then I pointed him toward his emails in which he claimed to be the same “TechDude” who had helped Atlas Shruggs with their Obama forged birth certificate investigation, in which Pamela Gellar listed those same credentials.

So is it the same “TechDude”? I don’t know. But I don’t think that he’s exhibited adequate honesty.

To be clear, I don’t doubt for a second that Obama’s birth certificate is a forgery — many other people, including Mr. Donald Trump, have said the same thing, so the evidence is overwhelming. But given this revelation, it’s best if “TechDude” and CFC part ways.

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109 comments

steve_davis Sat, Dec 1, 2012 5:16:49am

How did they know his credentials were forged? Did they put them under the heat lamp down at McDonald's? You know, you still need to throw those credentials out if they aren't used after 20 minutes under the lamp.

Romantic Heretic Sat, Dec 1, 2012 9:27:18am

I don’t think that he’s exhibited adequate honesty.

Um, coming from a site (probably) dedicated to disseminating dishonest information I'll have to rate this as the most disingenuous statement I've read all week.

philosophus invidius Sat, Dec 1, 2012 9:37:39am

Some interesting facts about Techdude:

1) He was associated with a "PUMA" blog, which attacked Obama supposedly in support of Hilary Clinton. But the blog (called texasdarlin) is transparently a wingnut Republican site (like "Hilaryis44") designed to sow doubts about the legitimacy of Obama's primary victory and birth certificate under the false guise of supporting Hilary as the legitimate Democratic nominee.
2) Techdude was completely discredited within the Birther community--as strange as that sounds--some time in late 2008. The forgery of his credentials was discovered, and his analyses were recognized as bogus. After that became known, he quietly disappeared. No one believed him or his claims that someone put a mutilated rabbit on his door.
3) After all of that, all mention of him was purged from the texasdarlin site.
4) Pamela Gellar hosted his "analyses" and claimed to have verified his credentials. As far as I can tell, after Techdude was rejected by the Birther movement, Pamela just moved on and neither defended or repudiated his "analyses." In that regard, CFC is actually being more responsible than Gellar was.
5) I can't see that techdude actually contributed in any way to the CFC website, aside from appearing on the "About" page.

Hector1980 Sat, Dec 1, 2012 9:48:58am

From one of the pages there:

"We can't blame the Tea Party for spreading these. As mentioned, many of them are politically and mathematically unsophisticated, but they make up for that with enthusiasm, and that's what counts."

[Link: conservativefactcheck.com...]

I LOLed at that. If the site is satire, it's damn brilliant.

philosophus invidius Sat, Dec 1, 2012 9:59:47am

re: #4 Hector1980

The next sentence: "By spreading these reports of voter fraud -- whether true or false -- they're helping raise awareness of the voter fraud issue."

Wrap your head around that one.

Charles Johnson Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:02:44am

I'm now as certain as I can be that this is not a parody site. This really is where the right wing base has ended up.

Charles Johnson Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:11:27am

Notice that Chuck Rogers misspells Pamela Geller's name. Conservative fact check!

Kronocide Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:12:16am

Charles, can I have the (unpaid) resident CAT 5 crimper and Unmanaged 10/100 Switch Maintenance Supervisor?

I'm also barely skilled in Excel.

jaunte Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:12:30am

"To be clear, I don't doubt for a second that Obama's birth certificate is a forgery -- many other people, including Mr. Donald Trump, have said the same thing, so the evidence is overwhelming."

Hahahahahahahaha

Mich-again Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:13:45am

We can't blame the Tea Party for spreading these. As mentioned, many of them are politically and mathematically unsophisticated, but they make up for that with enthusiasm, and that's what counts.

Often wrong, but never in doubt!

A Man for all Seasons Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:19:15am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

I'm now as certain as I can be that this is not a parody site. This really is where the right wing base has ended up.

That's the real issue.. The base jumped over the cliff.

Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:19:56am

The future of factchecking

Outlets must also learn to overcome the controversies and frictions that factchecking inevitably creates, which tend to help keep the status quo in place. At the elite level, for instance, the increased salience of factchecking during this electoral cycle generated unprecedented pushback, ranging from an 86-page dossier on Politifact Virginia released by the state GOP to repeated on-air attacks on PolitiFact by MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow. Some of these complaints had merit—like other journalists, factcheckers sometimes make mistakes and demonstrate poor judgment—but the criticisms often appear driven in part by partisan or ideological considerations.

Media outlets will also have to learn how to tolerate objections from their audience. Most people like the idea of challenging talking points and factchecking in the abstract, but protest when their side gets criticized—a factor that unfortunately creates commercial incentives to avoid aggressive factchecking.

Given the energy and enthusiasm behind the factchecking movement, it is likely that these challenges can be at least partially overcome.

Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:21:19am

re: #1 steve_davis

How did they know his credentials were forged?

Didn't you read it? He clearly states:

To be clear, I don’t doubt for a second that Obama’s birth certificate is a forgery — many other people, including Mr. Donald Trump, have said the same thing, so the evidence is overwhelming.

A lot of people have said it, including Mr. Donald Trump. What more proof do you need?

jaunte Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:21:52am

re: #13 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

"It is known."

Gus Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:22:40am

Weird.

Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:23:13am

re: #14 jaunte

"It is known."

"Some argue."

makeitstop Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:23:43am

many other people, including Mr. Donald Trump, have said the same thing, so the evidence is overwhelming.

Slowly shakes head...

Mich-again Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:24:14am

I'm not so sure it isn't a parody site..

How about some snips from the article Feder's "Rules for Conservatives".

5. Don’t let the Republican establishment pick our candidates. Every time that’s happened, without exception, we go down to ignominious defeat — Ford in 1976, G.W. Bush in 1992, Dole in 1996, McCain in 2008 and Mitt the Meek in 2012. Avoid Republicans who’ve made a reputation for reaching across the aisle. They are adept at negotiated surrender. Voters hunger not for bi-partisanship but moral clarity. Unite early behind the best authentic conservative candidate. Don’t wait for another Regan, while the establishment slips in another Romney.,,

9. Don’t engage in racial/ethnic/gender appeals. At the 2012 GOP Nominating Convention, speakers fell all over themselves expressing their gratitude for the women in their lives (mothers/wives/daughters/female colleagues/cleaning ladies) to convince single women that Republicans weren’t misogynists who wanted to snatch their contraceptives. (Obama still got the votes of two-thirds of a constituency whose political compass lies between their legs.)

11. Don’t be intimidated by charges of racism, sexism and xenophobia, which the establishment uses to silence dissent. Answer accusations with demands for explanations. How does holding minorities to the same standards as whites constitute racism? How is a recognition of reality (men and women are different, psychology as well as biologically) sexist? Why should racial hustlers or embittered militants be allowed to establish the parameters of legitimate debate?

MOAR please!

Charles Johnson Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:24:24am

re: #12 Killgore Trout

Rachel Maddow did not "attack" Politifact, she criticized them for being wrong. And her criticisms were right on target.

Kronocide Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:24:55am

re: #14 jaunte

"It is known."

We put the taught in tautology

Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:26:08am

What if we really can make anything true by getting "many" people to say it? I'll start:

Pizza and beer, consumed together in very high quantities, are virtually calorie-free and have a wide range of health benefits.

SO SAY WE ALL

Mich-again Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:27:28am

re: #21 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

Pizza and beer, consumed together in very high quantities, are virtually calorie-free and have a wide range of health benefits.

I saw it on the internet so it must be true.

Kronocide Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:27:43am

re: #21 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

What if we really can make anything true by getting "many" people to say it? I'll start:

Pizza and beer, consumed together in very high quantities, are virtually calorie-free and have a wide range of health benefits.

SO SAY WE ALL

No, that's true and verifiable see this.

PhillyPretzel Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:28:12am

::: pulling out the hip waders :::

Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:29:28am

re: #19 Charles Johnson

Rachel Maddow did not "attack" Politifact, she criticized them for being wrong. And her criticisms were right on target.

Most of the partisan complaints about the fact checkers didn't impress me very much. The article talks about possibility of CNN adopting more of a fact checking model but I think they're soon changing to a more entertainment/reality show format so I don't think that's likely.

Charles Johnson Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:30:27am

re: #25 Killgore Trout

I know that, because you seem to think Politifact is infallible for some weird reason.

Example:

MSNBC Video

Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:31:18am

I wonder what Politifact's Lie of the Year is going to be. Lot's of good contenders from election season.

Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:32:34am

re: #26 Charles Johnson

I know that, because you seem to think Politifact is infallible for some weird reason.

Example:

[Embedded content]

I've seen that before.

Charles Johnson Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:33:03am

re: #28 Killgore Trout

I know, and ignored it before too.

Charles Johnson Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:33:52am

Politi-F**Ked: Why Politifact's 'Lie of the Year' Is Not Just Wrong, It's Irresponsible

Charles Johnson Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:36:46am

"You sully the reputation of anyone who cites you as an authority on fact-ish-ness, let alone fact."

Yup.

Kronocide Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:39:31am

re: #29 Charles Johnson

I know, and ignored it before too.

You're attempting to have a serious discussion with a man who views Maddow and Beck as roughly equivalent.

CuriousLurker Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:42:53am

re: #24 PhillyPretzel

::: pulling out the hip waders :::

*also puts on hip waders, hands Philly her spare shovel*

Kronocide Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:46:24am

re: #32 Henchman Ghazi-808

You're attempting to have a serious discussion with a man who views Maddow and Beck as roughly equivalent.

Worth a re-read. Still scratching my head on that one.

wrenchwench Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:50:33am

re: #33 CuriousLurker

*also puts on hip waders, hands Philly her spare shovel*

All I have are chaps. :(

Decatur Deb Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:53:08am

re: #35 wrenchwench

All I have are chaps. :(

Tell the chaps to bring their own shovels.

(Just now finished tilling the winter garden--the summer was a complete disaster.)

Mattand Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:53:38am

re: #32 Henchman Ghazi-808

You're attempting to have a serious discussion with a man who views Maddow and Beck as roughly equivalent.

This is why saying "They're all the same" is not a valid political view. It's a form of reality denial.

PhillyPretzel Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:53:53am

re: #36 Decatur Deb

Good luck with the next crop.

Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:54:11am

re: #35 wrenchwench

All I have are chaps. :(

If you have a handlebar mustache and a biker hat, we can probably come up with a cop, a construction worker, and a Cherokee...

wrenchwench Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:55:13am

re: #36 Decatur Deb

Tell the chaps to bring their own shovels.

(Just now finished tilling the winter garden--the summer was a complete disaster.)

Weather related disaster?

wrenchwench Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:56:37am

re: #39 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

If you have a handlebar mustache and a biker hat, we can probably come up with a cop, a construction worker, and a Cherokee...

Handlebar, yes; mustache, no (so far...).

Randall Gross Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:59:07am

1/2 the outdoor lights are up now, I'll do the rest on the morrow. Hope everyone is doing grand, Merry Christmas, Season's greets, Happy Hannukah, and Yog Sothoth.

Decatur Deb Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:59:28am

re: #40 wrenchwench

Weather related disaster?

Technology goof, I hope--used a commercial cloth mulch that let ugly things happen unseen. Soil test was also deficient, after a spectacular 2011 winter crop.

EiMitch Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:59:45am

To be clear, I don’t doubt for a second that Obama’s birth certificate is a forgery — many other people, including Mr. Donald Trump, have said the same thing, so the evidence is overwhelming.

Donald Trump? Thats the most authoritative name he could think of? Really? Trump is demonstrably more full of s*** than TechDude, even without talking about birtherism. Where does CFC get the balls to call this bumbling bulls*** "fact-checking"?

PhillyPretzel Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:59:59am

re: #42 Randall Gross

I have the candles ready for next week.

CuriousLurker Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:00:34pm

re: #35 wrenchwench

All I have are chaps. :(

Uh-oh.

^{//Weird side note: I used Google Images to look for a pair for you. Apparently some people have hip wader fetishes/fantasies. O_o}

Decatur Deb Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:00:53pm

re: #39 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

If you have a handlebar mustache and a biker hat, we can probably come up with a cop, a construction worker, and a Cherokee...

Heh--when people ask why I do Habitat, I tell them it's the only safe way to dress like a Village People.

Image: 095-big.jpg

jaunte Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:01:28pm

re: #44 EiMitch

Hey, that's "Mr." Donald Trump you're talking about!

PhillyPretzel Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:02:16pm

re: #46 CuriousLurker

Here is where to get hip waders. [Link: www.cabelas.com...]

Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:04:16pm

re: #44 EiMitch

Donald Trump? Thats the most authoritative name he could think of? Really? Trump is demonstrably more full of s*** than TechDude, even without talking about birtherism. Where does CFC get the balls to call this bumbling bulls*** "fact-checking"?

This is why I persist in thinking the site is probably a spoof.

CuriousLurker Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:04:39pm

re: #49 PhillyPretzel

Here is where to get hip waders. [Link: www.cabelas.com...]

Well, there you go. We'll have to pitch in and get WW a pair.

wrenchwench Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:06:11pm

re: #46 CuriousLurker

Uh-oh.

^{//Weird side note: I used Google Images to look for a pair for you. Apparently some people have hip wader fetishes/fantasies. O_o}

And here I was expecting some kind of crack about the chaps...

William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:07:58pm

re: #27 Killgore Trout

I wonder what Politifact's Lie of the Year is going to be. Lot's of good contenders from election season.

Politifact's Lie of the Year - That we had any clue WTF we were saying.

CuriousLurker Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:08:03pm

re: #35 wrenchwench

All I have are chaps. :(

Ooooh, here you go: These have cleats. That could come in really handy if you need to kick the shit out of someone.

A Man for all Seasons Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:08:37pm

re: #52 wrenchwench

And here I was expecting some kind of crack about the chaps...

Black leather chaps give you street cred no matter what.. Hot

simoom Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:09:32pm

re: #50 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

This is why I persist in thinking the site is probably a spoof.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

CuriousLurker Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:09:48pm

re: #52 wrenchwench

And here I was expecting some kind of crack about the chaps...

Well, if you're gonna have chaps then you need a lasso. And maybe a whip...

PhillyPretzel Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:11:31pm

re: #57 CuriousLurker

I am walking away from this conversation. I am not that type of person.

Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:12:50pm

re: #52 wrenchwench

And here I was expecting some kind of crack about the chaps...

HAR HAR GIT IT?! "CRACK"?! "CHAPS"?!

wrenchwench Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:13:29pm

re: #59 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

HAR HAR GIT IT?! "CRACK"?! "CHAPS"?!

I knew I could count on you.

Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:14:16pm

re: #56 simoom

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Well, sure, I don't claim to know. But it sure looks to me like the guy is dropping some broad hints.

b_sharp Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:14:50pm

re: #58 PhillyPretzel

I am walking away from this conversation. I am not that type of person.

The better for us to see what you're wearing under those chaps.

CuriousLurker Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:17:33pm

re: #58 PhillyPretzel

I am walking away from this conversation. I am not that type of person.

LOL! You mean you didn't know about WW's night job as Catwoman?

PhillyPretzel Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:18:24pm

re: #62 b_sharp

Just these. [Link: www.llbean.com...]

bratwurst Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:19:13pm

re: #35 wrenchwench

All I have are chaps. :(

Image: 720082d1338111948-my-ks-go-this_thread_is_worthless_without_pics.gif

CuriousLurker Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:20:44pm

re: #63 CuriousLurker

LOL! You mean you didn't know about WW's night job as Catwoman?

Why do you think she's always posting those cat pics, hmm...?

Obdicut Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:27:02pm

Aren't all chaps ass-less? Is isn't 'ass-less leather chaps' a pleonasm?

abolitionist Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:28:48pm

re: #32 Henchman Ghazi-808

You're attempting to have a serious discussion with a man who views Maddow and Beck as roughly equivalent.

I would never have suspected that Beck was lebonese.
/

TedStriker Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:31:59pm

re: #21 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

What if we really can make anything true by getting "many" people to say it? I'll start:

Pizza and beer, consumed together in very high quantities, are virtually calorie-free and have a wide range of health benefits.

SO SAY WE ALL

Reminds me of that State Farm commercial:

"They can't put anything on the Internet that isn't true."
"Where'd you see that?"
"The Internet..."

/I am a French supermodel

Charles Johnson Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:32:16pm

Excuse me while I fact-check an avocado, tomato, and Havarti cheese sandwich with Romaine lettuce.

jaunte Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:32:53pm

re: #67 Obdicut

Depends on who's wearing them.

Randall Gross Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:34:06pm

Three really great segments on the cliff, grand bargain, & medicare from the Chris Hayes show, and some discussion from Digby:

[Link: digbysblog.blogspot.com...]

Charles Johnson Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:34:19pm

I rate this sandwich "Mostly Delicious."

A Man for all Seasons Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:34:50pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

Excuse me while I fact-check an avocado, tomato, and Havarti cheese sandwich with Romaine lettuce.

False
Missing the Turkey and pepper

Gus Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:37:18pm

Ben Stein: "Control Freaks" Use Things Like Environmentalism And "Keeping The Jews In Line" To Control People

Video

Gus Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:37:32pm

Thunk.

Randall Gross Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:38:08pm

It just chaps my hide that friends who graduated two years later than me who have done real labor all their lives (as opposed to tech labor) already have to retire two years later than me to get full Social security, now they are going to screw the same batch of people on medicare eligibility age. IT's just freaking wrong if they go there.
Life expectancy is going up but most of that is among the rich and the very young (infant mortality going down). It shouldn't affect when a laborer or janitor gets to retire.

TedStriker Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:38:15pm

re: #75 Gus

Ben Stein: "Control Freaks" Use Things Like Environmentalism And "Keeping The Jews In Line" To Control People

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Fuck Ben Stein and his money...

TedStriker Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:39:36pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

Excuse me while I fact-check an avocado, tomato, and Havarti cheese sandwich with Romaine lettuce.

I was running behind for work, so I had to settle on Taco Hell.

austin_blue Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:41:07pm

re: #77 Randall Gross

It just chaps my hide that friends who graduated two years later than me who have done real labor all their lives (as opposed to tech labor) already have to retire two years later than me to get full Social security, now they are going to screw the same batch of people on medicare eligibility age. IT's just freaking wrong if they go there.
Life expectancy is going up but most of that is among the rich and the very young (infant mortality going down). It shouldn't affect when a laborer or janitor gets to retire.

Well said. Life expectancy is closely tied to wealth. Screw the working class! Make them suffer!

Gus Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:42:08pm

re: #78 TedStriker

Fuck Ben Stein and his money...

Drops mic. /

bratwurst Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:43:52pm

Boehner: "President Obama needs to stop acting like he won the election."
— Andy Borowitz (@BorowitzReport) December 1, 2012

CuriousLurker Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:44:28pm

re: #65 bratwurst

Image: 720082d1338111948-my-ks-go-this_thread_is_worthless_without_pics.gif

Here ya' go. ;)

Youtube Video

Charles Johnson Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:47:33pm

Is it possible to love avocado sandwiches too much? I would argue no.

wrenchwench Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:49:05pm

Now I'm hungry.

bratwurst Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:49:33pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

Is it possible to love avocado sandwiches too much? I would argue no.

But it is NO DIFFERENT than a peanut butter sandwich. After all, they are both something between a liquid and a solid between slices of bread, no?
/

Gus Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:50:05pm

re: #83 CuriousLurker

Here ya' go. ;)

[Embedded content]

Youtube Video

CuriousLurker Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:51:29pm

re: #85 wrenchwench

Now I'm hungry.

Me too. *CL & WW advance on PhillyPretzel...*

Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:51:56pm

Aliens!

Newtifact rating: They mostly come at night. Mostly.

Gus Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:52:30pm

re: #88 CuriousLurker

Me too. *CL & WW advance on PhillyPretzel...*

Needs mustard. //

wrenchwench Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:54:09pm

re: #86 bratwurst

But it is NO DIFFERENT than a peanut butter sandwich. After all, they are both something between a liquid and a solid between slices of bread, no?
/

Good to hear. I have peanut butter.

CuriousLurker Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:54:19pm

re: #88 CuriousLurker

Me too. *CL & WW advance on PhillyPretzel...*

re: #86 bratwurst

But it is NO DIFFERENT than a peanut butter sandwich. After all, they are both something between a liquid and a solid between slices of bread, no?
/

*wonders if Bratwurst has pork, if not...*

Randall Gross Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:55:16pm

The problem with avocados is that they don't go well with rye.

wrenchwench Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:55:45pm

re: #92 CuriousLurker

re: #86 bratwurst

*wonders if Bratwurst has pork, if not...*

Also needs mustard....

Randall Gross Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:56:06pm

Today in history:

Youtube Video

CuriousLurker Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:57:11pm

re: #87 Gus

[Embedded content]

Heh, I remember her--the catwoman of my youth.

wrenchwench Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:58:09pm

re: #93 Randall Gross

The problem with avocados is that they don't go well with rye.

No, it's peanut butter that doesn't go with rye.

bratwurst Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:58:17pm

re: #92 CuriousLurker

re: #86 bratwurst

*wonders if Bratwurst has pork, if not...*

Although this is a Jewish Bratwurst, it has spent way too much time in Europe to avoid pork completely. (whew!)

Gus Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:58:44pm

re: #96 CuriousLurker

Heh, I remember her--the catwoman of my youth.

Yeah, Julie Newmar. There was also Eartha Kitt who was always rather odd. :D

100

makeitstop Sat, Dec 1, 2012 12:59:49pm

re: #95 Randall Gross

Today in history:

[Embedded content]

Hendrix' Axis: Bold As Love was released in the UK on this date in 1967.

My personal favorite Jimi album.

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CuriousLurker Sat, Dec 1, 2012 1:00:50pm

re: #98 bratwurst

Although this is a Jewish Bratwurst, it has spent way too much time in Europe to avoid pork completely. (whew!)

Damn, foiled again! *puts scimitar back in scabbard*

Speaking of food, ShopRite is here with my grocery delivery. Yay! BBL

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Randall Gross Sat, Dec 1, 2012 1:03:09pm

re: #101 CuriousLurker

Kulmbacher (sp?) brats are made with veal.

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Gus Sat, Dec 1, 2012 1:03:26pm

Splodey. Heads.

Yay! West Point Chapel hosts first #gay marriage for longtime opponent of DADT. bit.ly/SxDT14
— Steve Silberman (@stevesilberman) December 1, 2012

104

Randall Gross Sat, Dec 1, 2012 1:07:53pm

Gop state Legislator comes out:

[Link: www.buzzfeed.com...]

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austin_blue Sat, Dec 1, 2012 1:08:57pm

re: #103 Gus

Splodey. Heads.

[Embedded content]

About damn time.

Have a long and happy marriage, ladies! And congratulations from this Air Force veteran, who happens to be straight and also happily married.

I like this "equal protection under the law" thing. Who came up with that?

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Gus Sat, Dec 1, 2012 1:10:32pm

re: #105 austin_blue

About damn time.

Have a long and happy marriage, ladies! And congratulations from this Air Force veteran, who happens to be straight and also happily married.

I like this "equal protection under the law" thing. Who came up with that?

Some call them the founding fathers.

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Gus Sat, Dec 1, 2012 1:11:02pm

OMG. This is horrible.

WARNING: Disturbing images at this link.

Before & After Meth

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Romantic Heretic Sat, Dec 1, 2012 2:43:23pm

re: #10 Mich-again

Often wrong, but never in doubt!

It's what you learn after you know it all that really counts.

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Tigger2005 Sun, Dec 2, 2012 11:07:10am

To be clear, I don’t doubt for a second that Obama’s birth certificate is a forgery — many other people, including Mr. Donald Trump, have said the same thing, so the evidence is overwhelming.

Because a lot of people say it, that's EVIDENCE? :::headdesk::: how are you supposed to deal with people for whom "a lot of people say it, including Mr. Donald Trump" is EVIDENCE? (Despairing wail)

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