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Coming up at 2 PM Eastern, President Obama will be taking questions on Twitter, using the hashtag #My2k.

Here’s the White House tweet announcing this special appearance:

(Expect this hashtag to be swarmed by hateful, dull-witted wingnuts.)

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157 comments

1 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:30:08am

The wingnuts are already spewing hate and weird comments all over the #My2k hashtag, of course.

2 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:31:04am

The Heritage Foundation bought a sponsored tweet that stays at the top of the page, with a link to their bullshit.

3 darthstar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:34:53am
4 darthstar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:35:43am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

The Heritage Foundation bought a sponsored tweet that stays at the top of the page, with a link to their bullshit.

My favorite thing about sponsored tweets is the 'Dismiss' button.

5 Kragar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:36:29am

Rep. Huizenga Hopes Obama won't 'Misinterpret' the Election as an Endorsement of his Policies

Rep. Bill Huizenga (R-MI) told Tony Perkins last week on Washington Watch Weekly that President Obama and the House GOP may not come to a tax deal before the fiscal deadline because he fears that the Obama administration “is going to misinterpret this past election and say, ‘well we campaign on increasing tax rates, not just revenues but increasing tax rates, and maintaining our spending.’” Indeed, Obama did make raising taxes on high earners a top campaign priority and both post-election polls and exit polls found that 60 percent of support raising taxes on income over $250,000. But apparently, Huizenga believes that House Republicans, who actually received fewer votes than Democratic House candidates, get to decide for Obama how to interpret his victory.

6 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:38:51am

not for me. I've got nothing to say to the man.

7 Kragar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:41:03am

Sorry about the link to WND, but...

Rick Santorum joins commentary team

Rick Santorum – the former U.S. senator who ignited grass-roots conservatives as a Republican candidate for president this year – today joins WND as an exclusive columnist. His commentaries will be featured each Monday.

8 Gus  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:41:22am

Christmas Tree fauxtrage!

And there it is. It's lighted.
Mrs. Reagan. Pretty.

The President. Yes. It's surrounded by 57 trees for each State and Territory.
Well, thank you all, and Merry Christmas. Mrs. Reagan. Merry Christmas.

1982

9 Four More Tears  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:41:35am

re: #7 Kragar

Sorry about the link to WND, but...

Rick Santorum joins commentary team

Yeah, I saw that at TP. It's a heart-warming homecoming.

10 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:42:00am
11 Kragar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:42:57am

re: #9 Four More Tears

Yeah, I saw that at TP. It's a heart-warming homecoming.

Rick will be in good company.
WND Columnist Floats Whites-Only Secessionist Movement

12 darthstar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:44:11am

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

not for me. I've got nothing to say to the man.

I hate to break it to you, but he's your president too.

13 Four More Tears  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:44:21am

re: #11 Kragar

Rick will be in good company.
WND Columnist Floats Whites-Only Secessionist Movement

Crikey.

14 darthstar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:44:52am

re: #10 Charles Johnson

You struck a nerve!

16 Kragar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:46:58am

re: #15 Four More Tears

NASA unveils discovery of organic compounds on Mars, still no 'definitive evidence' of life

More evidence of the Great Flood apparently.
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17 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:48:24am
18 Kragar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:50:22am

Santorum begins employment at WND by suggesting UN conspiracy to kill his daughter

In keeping with the WND tradition of promoting various fringe conspiracies, Santorum’s debut column claimed that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) has an objective of “ceding our sovereignty to the United Nations.”

Santorum warned that a United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities treaty adopted in 2006 “has much darker and more troubling implications” than to simply improve the treatment of disabled people in other countries.

The staunchly anti-abortion Republican worried that the treaty would “put the government, acting under U.N. authority, in the position to determine for all children with disabilities what is best for them.”

And taking that thought to its absurd conclusion, Santorum suggested that the U.N. treaty would have meant the death of his daughter, who has a rare genetic disorder.

19 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:50:46am

re: #5 Kragar

Rep. Huizenga Hopes Obama won't 'Misinterpret' the Election as an Endorsement of his Policies

"I earned capital in the campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it." GWB

20 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:51:19am

re: #8 Gus

Christmas Tree fauxtrage!

1982

These are not the trees on the outside display they are complaining about though, they also put 57 trees inside the Whitehouse, OMG! Next they will be saying that the trees are a sure sign that Obama is really a pagan because the bible says ornamented trees are wrong. Funny how it still would not apply to them though...

Pagan Ritual

21 Bulworth  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:51:39am

re: #5 Kragar

If would be just like PBO to make such an unwarranted assumption. /

22 Gus  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:54:00am

re: #20 watching you tiny alien kittens are

These are not the trees on the outside display they are complaining about though, they also put 57 trees inside the Whitehouse, OMG! Next they will be saying that the trees are a sure sign that Obama is really a pagan because the bible says ornamented trees are wrong. Funny how it still would not apply to them though...

Pagan Ritual

23 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:54:13am

re: #14 darthstar

You struck a nerve!

No, that was a fairly good natured reply. More likely to be effective because of that.

24 Gus  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:54:48am

re: #20 watching you tiny alien kittens are

These are not the trees on the outside display they are complaining about though, they also put 57 trees inside the Whitehouse, OMG! Next they will be saying that the trees are a sure sign that Obama is really a pagan because the bible says ornamented trees are wrong. Funny how it still would not apply to them though...

Pagan Ritual

These people are crazy.

25 wrenchwench  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:55:20am

If you want everyone to know you are a wingnut, the Breitbart avatar is passe:

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26 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:55:34am

re: #23 Dark_Falcon

No, that was a fairly good natured reply. More likely to be effective because of that.

A "good-natured reply" from blatant right wing liars spreading falsehoods, you mean.

27 Mich-again  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:58:14am

re: #16 Kragar

More evidence of the Great Flood apparently.
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On my favorite wingnut site Conservapedia they claim that the ice found on Mercury proves young earth creationism and the Great flood.

The ice on Mercury, found by NASA's MESSENGER probe, has provoked a lot of controversy. Specifically, a creation-oriented correspondent asserts that the Mercury ice confirms the Hydroplate Theory of the Great Flood. Here's why no other theory can account for the Mercury Ice...

Put the coffee down and read it all.. ha.

28 Kragar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:58:29am

re: #20 watching you tiny alien kittens are

These are not the trees on the outside display they are complaining about though, they also put 57 trees inside the Whitehouse, OMG! Next they will be saying that the trees are a sure sign that Obama is really a pagan because the bible says ornamented trees are wrong. Funny how it still would not apply to them though...

Pagan Ritual

Needs more candles...

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29 Randall Gross  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:59:52am

Heritage: fighting for millionaires and credit downgrades as hard as they can.

30 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:01:21am

re: #16 Kragar

More evidence of the Great Flood apparently.
///

Ain't it amazing the way that God splashed liquid water with lifeforms in it all the way from here to Mars? What? Radiation? Don't be silly, radiation could not kill those primitive cells while they were on their way to Mars. They were being held in Gods own hand and shielded by him from any harm!

Halleluiah!

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31 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:01:30am

re: #23 Dark_Falcon

These are the people you're defending:

32 wrenchwench  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:02:29am

Note: no blue checkmark...

33 aagcobb  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:02:36am

re: #18 Kragar

Santorum begins employment at WND by suggesting UN conspiracy to kill his daughter

This level of crazy stands to be a strong contender for the GOP nomination for President in 2016.

34 Kragar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:02:51am

re: #27 Mich-again

On my favorite wingnut site Conservapedia they claim that the ice found on Mercury proves young earth creationism and the Great flood.

Put the coffee down and read it all.. ha.

I tried, but couldn't get past the part where the great underground sea exploded out, causing the great flood, shooting water and organic materials into space, forming comets and being responsible for ice being found elsewhere in the solar system, and that it happened 4000 years ago.

You think the Egyptians or other ancient civilization might have mentioned something like that occurring.

35 Gus  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:04:06am
36 darthstar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:04:37am

re: #32 wrenchwench

Note: no blue checkmark...

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But she misspelled her name - it has to be authentic!

37 Mich-again  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:06:12am

re: #34 Kragar

The truly sad thing there are a lot of people who actually subscribe to that nonsense. In fact they control the House of Representatives.

And for those conservatives who know that Young Earth Creationism is bullshit, why don't they try to educate the dolts in their party?

38 BongCrodny  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:06:34am

"Hateful, dull-witted wingnuts" is twice redundant.

39 Kragar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:07:04am

re: #37 Mich-again

And for those conservatives who know that Young Earth Creationism is bullshit, why don't they try to educate the dolts in their party?

Because party unity is everything.

40 Jolo5309  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:08:53am

re: #37 Mich-again

And for those conservatives who know that Young Earth Creationism is bullshit, why don't they try to educate the dolts in their party?

Because then they will be accused of being RINOs

41 Mich-again  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:11:10am

re: #39 Kragar

Because party unity is everything.

Instead of attempting to educate their ignorant masses, they push for vouchers for religious schools and promote home schooling. Those strategies show they know they have to keep their base stupid to keep them in the fold.

42 darthstar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:12:43am

Yeah, it was like the election never happened...

43 BongCrodny  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:13:44am

re: #37 Mich-again

And for those conservatives who know that Young Earth Creationism is bullshit, why don't they try to educate the dolts in their party?

Because "We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick Santorum

44 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:14:07am
45 darthstar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:14:53am
46 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:15:16am

re: #35 Gus

Brilliant!

Clearly Santorum either doesn't understand US constitutional law and treaties or is intentionally misleading his followers to believe that a treaty can somehow override or abrogate federal law protections. The Supreme Court has ruled as much (repeatedly). For instance, Reid v. Covert indicates as much:

Article VI, the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution, declares:

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land;... ."
There is nothing in this language which intimates that treaties and laws enacted pursuant to them do not have to comply with the provisions of the Constitution. Nor is there anything in the debates which accompanied the drafting and ratification of the Constitution which even suggests such a result. These debates as well as the history that surrounds the adoption of the treaty provision in Article VI make it clear that the reason treaties were not limited to those made in "pursuance" of the Constitution was so that agreements made by the United States under the Articles of Confederation, including the important peace treaties which concluded the Revolutionary [354 U.S. 1, 17] War, would remain in effect. 31 It would be manifestly contrary to the objectives of those who created the Constitution, as well as those who were responsible for the Bill of Rights — let alone alien to our entire constitutional history and tradition — to construe Article VI as permitting the United States to exercise power under an international agreement without observing constitutional prohibitions. 32 In effect, such construction would permit amendment of that document in a manner not sanctioned by Article V. The prohibitions of the Constitution were designed to apply to all branches of the National Government and they cannot be nullified by the Executive or by the Executive and the Senate combined.

There is nothing new or unique about what we say here. This Court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty.

47 Mattand  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:16:40am

re: #18 Kragar

Santorum begins employment at WND by suggesting UN conspiracy to kill his daughter

Gotta give him this much: Rick hit the ground running with his new gig.

Good God, how anyone could have supported this lunatic is beyond me.

48 Lidane  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:16:58am

re: #46 lawhawk

Clearly Santorum either doesn't understand US constitutional law and treaties or is intentionally misleading his followers to believe that a treaty can somehow override or abrogate federal law protections.

I don't think Santorum understands much of anything except being a humorless, sanctimonious prick. Even his fellow GOP senators hated him when he was in office.

And he's the front-runner for the 2016 GOP nomination, since he was the runner-up this time around. What fun.

49 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:17:46am

re: #18 Kragar

The good new is that Santorum has obviously given up on running as anything but a full-bore howling lunatic of a wingnut. So maybe the Republicans will actually get their chance to run a "True Conservative™" in 2016 and see what that gets them.

50 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:18:15am
51 Gus  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:18:23am

re: #46 lawhawk

Clearly Santorum either doesn't understand US constitutional law and treaties or is intentionally misleading his followers to believe that a treaty can somehow override or abrogate federal law protections. The Supreme Court has ruled as much (repeatedly). For instance, Reid v. Covert indicates as much:

I've mentioned the Supremacy Clause several dozen times to this bozos to no effect.

52 Lidane  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:18:41am

re: #47 Mattand

Good God, how anyone could have supported this lunatic is beyond me.

Mitt was never going to get evangelical support because they see Mormons as cultists that are barely a half-step above Satanists. And the Freeper/teabagger morons wanted a True Conservative nominee, so they threw their weight behind Anybody But Mitt.

53 Mich-again  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:19:58am

Heritage Foundation loved the Bonus Depreciation provision in the stimulus package. That provision allowed businesses to write off 100% of new capital investment made in 2011 in one single year instead of spreading the depreciation over a number of years. It was a huge incentive to get businesses to reinvest in their operations to get things rolling again. And it led to the largest corporate profits ever in 2011.

But ask Heritage what they thought of job creation in the USA in 2011 and 2012 and they'll show a slew of charts why Obama's policies failed.

So now, what does Heritage promote? Why of course more tax breaks for businesses.

All those smart people at Heritage haven't figured out that if customers in the market don't have money to spend, then businesses can't expand and create jobs. Throwing money at a corporation does not cause them to create new jobs.

54 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:20:50am
55 Lidane  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:23:08am

re: #51 Gus

I've mentioned the Supremacy Clause several dozen times to this bozos to no effect.

To me, it's like the morons who think that posting a status update on Facebook somehow invalidates the Terms of Service agreement they agreed to in the first place.

Buncha idiots.

56 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:24:31am
57 Gus  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:25:15am

re: #56 Charles Johnson

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Outrage!

58 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:25:21am

re: #45 darthstar

The man uses a mac.

Image: 14251.de04d228cf36ee0a77271918291be981.jpg

That Dirty Muslim Communist, real Americans use PCs!!1!@!!1

59 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:26:15am
60 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:27:21am

Can't help noticing that Obama's a Mac user. Heh.

61 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:27:48am

Hey all!

62 Big Steve  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:30:13am

re: #44 Charles Johnson

I'd kill for a laptop with the Presidential seal on it!

63 darthstar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:30:42am

Somewhere out there a very drunk John Boehner is flabbergasted.
Somewhere else a not drunk Mitt Romney is trying to console his still-pissed-off-at-his-losing wife.

64 darthstar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:31:24am

re: #62 Big Steve

I'd kill for a laptop with the Presidential seal on it!

Don't kill, bid!
[Link: compare.ebay.com...]

65 Mich-again  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:31:46am

re: #56 Charles Johnson

OBUMMER is surfing the NET when he should be investigating BhEnGaZi!

66 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:31:51am

MEGA DERP!

67 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:32:36am

re: #41 Mich-again

Instead of attempting to educate their ignorant masses, they push for vouchers for religious schools and promote home schooling. Those strategies show they know they have to keep their base stupid to keep them in the fold.

because they don't want to educate, they want to control.

And they accuse the Left of wanting to indoctrinate.

68 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:32:53am

re: #66 Charles Johnson

MEGA DERP!

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Whinegasm alert.

69 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:34:06am
70 allegro  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:35:58am

re: #59 Charles Johnson

From a tweet:

what is your opposition to taking away deductions for the 2% rather than up the rate? Seems like a reasonable compromise

I keep seeing this thrown out as some kind of "reasonable" approach. The first question is that if it had the equivalent effect, then what is the difference? Why this problem with increasing the rate in the first place? Why would eliminating deductions be GOP preferred?

Could it be because those deduction eliminations as promised just kinda never materialize in a GOP House? Could it be that deductions are eliminated but only somehow end up hitting the middle class, i.e. home mortgage deductions? Isn't it pretty obvious by now that if the GOP is proposing anything in the way of revenue generation that it will always end up being a gift to the corporate/wealthy and a fuck you to the rest of the 98%?

71 Mich-again  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:36:34am

re: #67 Holidays are Family Fun Time

because they don't want to educate, they want to control.

And they accuse the Left of wanting to indoctrinate.

Because everyone knows that exposing young minds to a variety of sources of information is dangerous. Best to control every bit of what they hear, read and learn to make sure they form the correct opinions. /

72 darthstar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:36:39am

Wow...President Obama was just reelected and Mitt Romney has already found a new job! The economy IS improving!

73 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:37:26am

re: #72 darthstar

Wow...President Obama was just reelected and Mitt Romney has already found a new job! The economy IS improving!

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That's the third time Mitt Romney has "returned" to the board of Marriott.

74 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:37:33am
75 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:39:02am

There is a band out of Arizona called Andrew Jackson Jihad.

Doesn't that just seem wrong?

76 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:39:44am

Best way to follow Obama's Twitter session is to watch @whitehouse, instead of the #My2k hashtag.

Wingnuts are spewing all over the hashtag timeline.

77 Decatur Deb  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:39:47am

re: #75 Holidays are Family Fun Time

There is a band out of Arizona called Andrew Jackson Jihad.

Doesn't that just seem wrong?

Not to a Cherokee.

78 TedStriker  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:40:14am

re: #13 Four More Tears

Crikey.

Cracker-y, even.

79 darthstar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:40:22am

re: #73 Charles Johnson

That's the third time Mitt Romney has "returned" to the board of Marriott.

I'm so glad I let my Marquis Club status expire and I don't stay there anymore. I'm happy getting decent treatment at the Hyatt.

80 Decatur Deb  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:40:26am

re: #76 Charles Johnson

Best way to follow Obama's Twitter session is to watch @whitehouse, instead of the #My2k hashtag.

Wingnuts are spewing all over the hashtag timeline.

Kindle Fire-side chat.

81 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:41:02am
82 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:41:06am

re: #71 Mich-again

Because everyone knows that exposing young minds to a variety of sources of information is dangerous. Best to control every bit of what they hear, read and learn to make sure they form the correct opinions. /

by the age of 6 or 7 or 8
children must be carefully taught
to hate the people their parents hate

83 wrenchwench  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:41:29am

re: #76 Charles Johnson

Best way to follow Obama's Twitter session is to watch @whitehouse, instead of the #My2k hashtag.

Wingnuts are spewing all over the hashtag timeline.

I figured that out when I ran out of OFFSs.

84 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:41:42am

Translation of Hunters question: Dear person I think is really stupid, what is your problem with just slashing the deductions used by everyone who makes more than 200k a year instead of raising rates on the rich? Yes I know that quite a lot of your supporters live in states with very high state income taxes and that limiting their deductions would hurt them more while mostly letting the truly rich off the hook, I'm simply hoping that you don't. Sincerely Hunter.

85 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:42:03am
86 Mich-again  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:43:33am

re: #73 Charles Johnson

That's the third time Mitt Romney has "returned" to the board of Marriott.

corrected... When he was on the Marriot board, Marriot was heavily fined for cheating on their corporate taxes in the Son of BOSS scandal. Mitt's defense, he didn't know.

87 BongCrodny  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:43:45am

re: #66 Charles Johnson

MEGA DERP!

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Based on Moon's hashtag, shouldn't that be "MEGA DIZERP"?

88 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:44:27am

re: #85 Charles Johnson

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worried about deductions? Really? they don't begin to offset the interest you pay over 30 years of a mortgage.

In this market, you aren't going to be realizing a great return if you sell your house--either.

89 Mich-again  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:45:18am

The Gubmit is keeping track of all the twitter users who criticize Obama and will send them all to TWITTER GULAG!

90 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:45:47am
91 TedStriker  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:46:53am

re: #23 Dark_Falcon

No, that was a fairly good natured reply. More likely to be effective because of that.

Dark, I like you, but I just don't get why you would continue to defend the TPGOP and the hokum they and their functionaries are selling when it's against your best interests, especially when it's pretty obvious that they don't give a damn about the "little people" such as you and me.

You really are a riddle wrapped up in an enigma, shrouded in mystery.

92 wrenchwench  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:46:59am

re: #90 Charles Johnson

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See!11 It's a trick!!!

93 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:47:39am

re: #37 Mich-again

The truly sad thing there are a lot of people who actually subscribe to that nonsense. In fact they control the House of Representatives.

And for those conservatives who know that Young Earth Creationism is bullshit, why don't they try to educate the dolts in their party?

Because doing so is dangerous to their health. The wingnuts can't tell the difference between fact correction and an existential attack on their beliefs.

94 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:47:54am
95 Big Steve  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:48:47am

BTW Mars Rover team announced today finding perchlorates in the soil.

96 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:48:56am

re: #93 Romantic Heretic

Because doing so is dangerous to their health. The wingnuts can't tell the difference between fact correction and an existential attack on their beliefs.

OMG! How obvious.

You just wrote a great truth there.

97 TedStriker  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:49:41am

re: #89 Mich-again

The Gubmit is keeping track of all the twitter users who criticize Obama and will send them all to TWITTER GULAG!

Da, comrade...

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98 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:49:50am

re: #67 Holidays are Family Fun Time

because they don't want to educate, they want to control.

And they accuse the Left of wanting to indoctrinate.

Just goes back to the old saw that, "If they are bitching about it, they are doing it themselves.".

99 darthstar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:50:29am
100 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:50:42am

re: #95 Big Steve

BTW Mars Rover team announced today finding perchlorates in the soil.

Aren't those the things that turn you into a Jedi?

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101 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:51:00am

Vocabulary Word for the Day:

Perchlorates:

Perchlorates are the salts derived from perchloric acid (HClO4). Perchlorates are often produced by natural processes but can also be produced artificially. They have been used for more than fifty years to treat thyroid disorders. They are used extensively within the pyrotechnics industry, and ammonium perchlorate is also a component of solid rocket fuel. Lithium perchlorate, which decomposes exothermically to produce oxygen, is used in oxygen "candles" on spacecraft, submarines, and in other situations where a reliable backup oxygen supply is needed.

So, Big Steve, finding them on Mars could be a big deal?

102 TedStriker  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:51:00am

re: #98 Eventual Carrion

Just goes back to the old saw that, "If they are bitching about it, they are doing it themselves.".

Or planned on doing it themselves.

103 Decatur Deb  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:51:19am

re: #89 Mich-again

The Gubmit is keeping track of all the twitter users who criticize Obama and will send them all to TWITTER GULAG!

Windows Vista via 300 baud dial-up.

104 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:52:14am

re: #71 Mich-again

Because everyone knows that exposing young minds to a variety of sources of information is dangerous. Best to control every bit of what they hear, read and learn to make sure they form the correct opinions. /

Right, their world view crumbles if inspected too closely with an educated eye. They know it and will try to stop the education at all costs.

105 Lidane  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:52:17am

re: #100 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Aren't those the things that turn you into a Jedi?

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Worst. Plot Device. EVAR. It completely ruined the Jedi.

OK. I'll stop now. I'll end up ranting about the shitty decisions Lucas made in the prequels and I actually have to try to get some work done today.

106 wrenchwench  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:52:55am

Isn't that what got Anthony Weiner in trouble?

107 Big Steve  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:53:19am

re: #100 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Aren't those the things that turn you into a Jedi?

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would have to be one tough Jedi. Actually perchlorates have been found on Mars before but half a world away. Perchlorates which have a chlorine bound to four oxygens doesn't bode well for organices because the oxidize the living crap out of anything with a carbon atom.

108 TedStriker  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:54:44am

re: #42 darthstar

Yeah, it was like the election never happened...

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And now, one of my Senators, Bob Corker, is trying to push the same crap and out-Ryan Ryan.

Arrrggghhhh...

109 Mich-again  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:55:22am

re: #93 Romantic Heretic

Because doing so is dangerous to their health. The wingnuts can't tell the difference between fact correction and an existential attack on their beliefs.

"The truth of our faith becomes a matter of ridicule if any Catholic presents as dogma what scientific scrutiny shows to be false" Thomas Aquinas

and its modern equivalent..

"Science becomes a matter of ridicule if any scientist presents information that biblical scrutiny shows to be false." Tea Party/ GOP

110 Targetpractice  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:55:36am

re: #108 TedStriker

And now, one of my Senators, Bob Corker, is trying to push the same crap and out-Ryan Ryan.

Arrrggghhhh...

"It saves billions! It's a 'serious' plan! Stop laughing!!!"

111 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:58:57am

re: #70 allegro

Talking about the deductions sounds great in the abstract until you start looking at the numbers involved. Everyone on both sides of the aisle consider charitable deductions to be a good thing - encouraging charitable giving. Reduce that deduction, even if limited to high income earners, would hurt charitable giving to a wide range of entities - university endowments, health care and medical research (think cancer, diabetes, MS, etc.), disaster aid, etc.

So, if you take charitable giving off the table, that leaves items like the mortgage interest deduction and the state tax deductions. And both have pretty strong constituencies supporting them too (bipartisan at that) - and since the real estate markets have been among the hardest hit sectors, limiting the mortgage interest deduction is seen as hurting that recovery.

Thing is that if you want to gain revenue by eliminating deductions, credits, etc., alone, the best way IMO would be to revise the AMT and not only finally peg it to the CPI (as done with other taxes so we don't have to do the inane fight every year), but it can be simplified and folded into the general tax rates as a new rate bracket - make it your 39.6% bracket for say over $500k and have limited deductions.

112 darthstar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:01:49pm

HA HA HA HA HA!

Stop it. This is hard.

HA HA HA HA HA!

Destiny, bitches!

113 allegro  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:03:06pm

re: #112 darthstar

HA HA HA HA HA!

Stop it. This is hard.

HA HA HA HA HA!

[Embedded content]

Destiny, bitches!

Magical Thinking R Us

114 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:03:18pm

re: #86 Mich-again

corrected... When he was on the Marriot board, Marriot was heavily fined for cheating on their corporate taxes in the Son of BOSS scandal. Mitt's defense, he didn't know.

He had already retired from there retroactively. Twice.

115 Mich-again  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:03:28pm

re: #111 lawhawk

I think 501(c)(3) tax-exempt status needs to be overhauled to eliminate taxpayer subsidies for blatantly political lobbying groups like ALEC and Heartland Institute to name just a couple.

116 erik_t  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:03:56pm
@dontbeaprat @mstevesmithjr OH MY GOD THE PRESIDENT ANSWERED ME! And he likes the purple hair I had a few years ago. I AM SHAKING.

Actually I'm pretty sure the White House said her purple hair is bad for economic growth.

/

117 darthstar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:04:59pm

re: #114 Eventual Carrion

He had already retired from there retroactively. Twice.

He's just planning for his next retroactive retirement.

118 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:05:26pm
119 Mich-again  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:05:52pm

re: #95 Big Steve

BTW Mars Rover team announced today finding perchlorates in the soil.

Dry cleaning chemicals? weirod.. /

120 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:05:53pm

re: #114 Eventual Carrion

He had already retired from there retroactively. Twice.

Is that like baptising people after they die?

121 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:07:19pm

So republicans have released a new plan for dealing with the fiscal cliff and it sounds like the same plan they ran on in the last election and it relies on starving grandma and magical tax fairies.

122 erik_t  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:08:15pm

re: #121 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

So republicans have released a new plan for dealing with the fiscal cliff and it sounds like the same plan they ran on in the last election and it relies on starving grandma and magical tax fairies.

The plan's great, it just needs better messaging. Gotta scrub the last of the numbers out of that three-page pamphlet.

123 efuseakay  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:08:47pm

re: #100 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Aren't those the things that turn you into a Jedi?

///

No. Those would be medievalfloridians.

124 Targetpractice  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:08:55pm

Luap Nor is gone from Congress, but his lunacy continues on:

Republican Congressman Urges Country ‘To Return To Gold’

125 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:10:32pm

re: #124 Targetpractice

Luap Nor is gone from Congress, but his lunacy continues on:

Republican Congressman Urges Country ‘To Return To Gold’

there always has to be ONE.

126 Gus  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:10:48pm

2010

Dashcam video of Seattle police shooting

A dash cam video from the officer who shot and killed Native American woodcarver John T. Williams was released Friday, showing Williams ambling slowly across the street in a crosswalk before the officer opens fire.

Image: john-williams.jpg

127 makeitstop  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:10:57pm

re: #112 darthstar

HA HA HA HA HA!

Stop it. This is hard.

HA HA HA HA HA!

[Embedded content]

Destiny, bitches!

I still have problems trying to process that level of arrogance.

128 Gus  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:12:00pm

re: #126 Gus

2010

Dashcam video of Seattle police shooting

[Embedded content]

Image: john-williams.jpg

2011

Woodcarver's family to get $1.5 million from city
Settlement with John T. Williams family announced Friday

129 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:13:08pm

re: #126 Gus

2010

Dashcam video of Seattle police shooting

[Embedded content]

Image: john-williams.jpg

no open carry for knives in Seattle?

130 TedStriker  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:13:18pm

re: #72 darthstar

Wow...President Obama was just reelected and Mitt Romney has already found a new job! The economy IS improving!

re: #73 Charles Johnson

That's the third time Mitt Romney has "returned" to the board of Marriott.

[Embedded content]

re: #79 darthstar

I'm so glad I let my Marquis Club status expire and I don't stay there anymore. I'm happy getting decent treatment at the Hyatt.

Sigh...I just hope Romney doesn't do much damage this time around, because now my mom works for Marriott. She's worked for Gaylord Entertainment [and its predecessors] for over 27 years at the [Gaylord] Opryland Hotel and, currently, on the General Jackson and the Music City Queen.

Earlier this year, effective October 1st, Marriott bought the management rights for 30 years to all of the Gaylord hotels (Opryland [Nashville; includes the Inn at Opryland, which serves as overflow for the main hotel, and Gaylord Springs golf course], National [D.C. area], Texan [DFW area], and the Palms [Orlando area], as well as for the Nashville riverboats (the General Jackson showboat and Music City Queen), and the Wildhorse Saloon. While Ryman Hospitality Properties (the successor company to the old Gaylord Entertainment) still owns all of those properties and physical assets (they become a REIT at the end of the year), the only things that were not a part of the Marriott deal were the Grand Ole Opry, the Ryman Auditorium, and WSM.

We voted for Obama because Mitt is a sociopathic, lying ass and Mitt still finds a way to directly affect us.

Sonofabitch...

131 Bulworth  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:15:08pm

re: #111 lawhawk

Yes, but the highest marginal tax rate can never, ever be raised, ever. /

132 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:17:07pm

re: #75 Holidays are Family Fun Time

There is a band out of Arizona called Andrew Jackson Jihad.

Doesn't that just seem wrong?

No, it just seems awesome!
[Link: www.cracked.com...]

133 Mich-again  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:18:12pm

re: #124 Targetpractice

Luap Nor is gone from Congress, but his lunacy continues on:

Republican Congressman Urges Country ‘To Return To Gold’

So India can manipulate the value of our currency..

134 Gus  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:18:35pm

re: #129 Holidays are Family Fun Time

no open carry for knives in Seattle?

Guess not. He was shot in the side. Not facing the officer. Deaf in one year. Knife was found folded shut.

135 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:18:45pm

Breaking News: Darth Vader, (AKA) formerly known as Anakin Skywalker has been implicated in the latest round of scandals concerning Midichlorian doping. Sources within the Empire have told this reporter that if these accusations prove correct his title as a "Sith Lord" may be in serious jeopardy.

These accusations follow in the wake of the stunning revelations that his un-acknowledged son Luke Skywalker used Midichlorian doping to wantonly destroy Imperial property and kill many imperial subjects. His unprevoked act of terrorism in destroying a major imperial space station derisively nick-named the "DeathStar" by its detractors still reverberates throughout the Imperium.

We will provide updates as any further developments in this scandal come to light...

/not really. :(

136 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:18:56pm

re: #131 Bulworth

Forget the marginal rates; the effective tax rate can never be raised /Norquistians

137 erik_t  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:19:11pm

Oh my, this is magical.

Cadet Chapel, the landmark gothic church that is a center for spiritual life at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, was hosting its first same-sex wedding Saturday.

Penelope Gnesin and Brenda Sue Fulton, a West Point graduate, were exchanging vows in the regal church in an afternoon ceremony attended by around 250 guests and conducted by a senior Army chaplain.

Eat it, grumps.

138 erik_t  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:20:41pm

...

re: #137 erik_t

Oh my, this is magical.
Eat it, grumps.

Air Force and Army are the same place, right?

/selfderp

139 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:24:54pm

Did anyone say "shameless self-promotion"?

ok, just want everyone to be as pissed-off as Baba and I.

140 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:29:44pm

re: #111 lawhawk

Talking about the deductions sounds great in the abstract until you start looking at the numbers involved. Everyone on both sides of the aisle consider charitable deductions to be a good thing - encouraging charitable giving. Reduce that deduction, even if limited to high income earners, would hurt charitable giving to a wide range of entities - university endowments, health care and medical research (think cancer, diabetes, MS, etc.), disaster aid, etc.

So, if you take charitable giving off the table, that leaves items like the mortgage interest deduction and the state tax deductions. And both have pretty strong constituencies supporting them too (bipartisan at that) - and since the real estate markets have been among the hardest hit sectors, limiting the mortgage interest deduction is seen as hurting that recovery.

Thing is that if you want to gain revenue by eliminating deductions, credits, etc., alone, the best way IMO would be to revise the AMT and not only finally peg it to the CPI (as done with other taxes so we don't have to do the inane fight every year), but it can be simplified and folded into the general tax rates as a new rate bracket - make it your 39.6% bracket for say over $500k and have limited deductions.

Donations to your own church are fully tax deductible with no limit, that needs to change. My own mother used it for decades to avoid paying anything to the government, she said she would rather give it to the church than the Feds.

141 Targetpractice  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:30:19pm

re: #135 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Breaking News: Darth Vader, (AKA) formerly known as Anakin Skywalker has been implicated in the latest round of scandals concerning Midichlorian doping. Sources within the Empire have told this reporter that if these accusations prove correct his title as a "Sith Lord" may be in serious jeopardy.

These accusations follow in the wake of the stunning revelations that his un-acknowledged son Luke Skywalker used Midichlorian doping to wantonly destroy Imperial property and kill many imperial subjects. His wanton act of terrorism in destroying a major imperial space station derisively nick-named the "DeathStar" by its detractors still reverberates throughout the Imperium.

We will provide updates as any further developments in this scandal come to light...

/not really. :(

Many may recall that, earlier this year, Skywalker came under suspicion after being seen in the company of one "Obi-Wan Kenobi," a former Jedi Council member wanted in connection with the failed Jedi coup and numerous war crimes involving the Jedi Council's usage of clone slaves for fighting the infamous Clone Wars, and the smuggler Han Solo, wanted for numerous violations of Imperial substance control laws and the operation of the illegally modified light freighter "Millenium Falcon."

/

142 Gus  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:32:12pm

re: #137 erik_t

Oh my, this is magical.

Eat it, grumps.

Here he is to the right of Hillary. The chaplain.

143 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:34:23pm

re: #134 Gus

Guess not. He was shot in the side. Not facing the officer. Deaf in one year. Knife was found folded shut.

Have to wonder how the officer would have reacted if he had a machete.

I couldn't even see the knife in the video. How did the cop see it from his car?

144 Targetpractice  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:35:56pm

Well, at least we're starting to get somewhere...I think.

Boehner Counters Obama Budget Offer With Fewer Revenues, Large Entitlement Cuts

House Speaker John Boehner says President Obama should drop his proposal to avoid automatic tax increases and spending cuts at the end of the year, and instead embrace a plan outlined by Erskine Bowles -- co-chair of the White House's commission on fiscal responsibility -- at a congressional hearing last November.

"The new revenue in the Bowles plan would not be achieved through higher tax rates, which we continue to oppose and will not agree to in order to protect small businesses and our ailing economy," Boehner writes in a letter (PDF) to Obama. "Instead, new revenue would be generated through pro-growth tax reform that closes special-interest loopholes and deductions while lowering rates. On the spending side, the Bowles recommendation would cut more than $900 billion in mandatory spending and another $300 billion in discretionary spending. These cuts would be over and above the spending reductions enacted in the Budget Control Act."

145 Gus  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:37:25pm

re: #143 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Have to wonder how the officer would have reacted if he had a machete.

I couldn't even see the knife in the video. How did the cop see it from his car?

Maybe he saw it earlier and decided to murder Williams after lunch.

146 darthstar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:40:29pm

re: #144 Targetpractice

Well, at least we're starting to get somewhere...I think.

Boehner Counters Obama Budget Offer With Fewer Revenues, Large Entitlement Cuts

Yeah, we're all the way up to November 2011. Boehner isn't doing anything serious here. He just keeps pulling shit that failed to be accepted before and recycling it as a 'new proposal'...It's enough to make one wonder if there's anyone in his office actually working on this or if they're all just playing Angry Birds online until President Obama comes up with their proposals for them.

147 BroncD  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:42:08pm

So glad we finally got to the bottom of that "Bob/Robert Costa" thing.
I was really tortured.

148 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:43:04pm

Americans are so greedy! Most of the questions were about making sure the person asking didn't have to pay more taxes.

I asked "Why Not Let ALL the Bush Tax Cuts Expire and Raise EVERYONE'S taxes? Aren't we all in this together?" Obviously, it wasn't answered.

149 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:44:31pm

NEVER BUY BATTERIES.

This week Staples has them for free with rewards program.

Last week Office Depot had them.

Every December, the office supply stores offer this to get people in the door.

Stock-up NOW

150 darthstar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:45:14pm

re: #148 ReamWorks SKG

Americans are so greedy! Most of the questions were about making sure the person asking didn't have to pay more taxes.

I asked "Why Not Let ALL the Bush Tax Cuts Expire and Raise EVERYONE'S taxes? Aren't we all in this together?" Obviously, it wasn't answered.

That question will likely be answered on January 1. There's no hurry to get this done by the end of the year, and the President knows it. Boehner knows it too, and it's got his butt in a pucker.

151 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 12:52:31pm

re: #144 Targetpractice

Well, at least we're starting to get somewhere...I think.

Boehner Counters Obama Budget Offer With Fewer Revenues, Large Entitlement Cuts

They just needed some time to try to figure out how to put enough lipstick on this pig to try to sell it as being attractive.

152 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:00:29pm

re: #147 BroncD

So glad we finally got to the bottom of that "Bob/Robert Costa" thing.
I was really tortured.

Hey, it is all good as long as they don't get confused with "The World According To Bob" where the two preeminent topics are misogyny and racism. They should count themselves lucky...

153 aagcobb  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:04:49pm

re: #148 ReamWorks SKG

Americans are so greedy! Most of the questions were about making sure the person asking didn't have to pay more taxes.

I asked "Why Not Let ALL the Bush Tax Cuts Expire and Raise EVERYONE'S taxes? Aren't we all in this together?" Obviously, it wasn't answered.

Because that would be bad for the economy. Raising taxes on the middle class takes away money that would be spent.

154 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:06:50pm

re: #151 watching you tiny alien kittens are

They just needed some time to try to figure out how to put enough lipstick on this pig to try to sell it as being attractive.

How to keep the business owners and corporate execs from "punishing" their hourly and lower salary workers for voting for Obama is my concern.

No matter what, they will justify containing their largest expense (payroll) by saying "regulations, taxes, government intereference" is what is keeping us from paying you more. While at the same time giving themselves bonuses and moving more business to other countries where they can bribe their way to get what they want.

155 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:25:32pm

Xiaozi

Xiaozi (Chinese: 小资; pinyin: xiǎozī), is a Chinese cultural term describing a lifestyle chasing modern taste, living standards, and arts. Originally the term was a Chinese translation of petite bourgeoisie. After the economic reform in the People's Republic of China, some urban Chinese who had been immersed in Marxist ideas of class conflict found they were not as poor as the proletariat but not as rich as the bourgeoisie. They regarded themselves as petite bourgeoisie to distinguish themselves from ordinary city dwellers.

This is where I think a lot of Conservatives see themselves and they are scared as shit of losing their place. remember: to them Proletariat is translated to Afrikan-American.

They are afraid of "slave riots" and are stock piling guns and using "big man" speech to intimidate anyone who they feel threatens their place just above the Proletariat and their opportunity to widen the gap between themselves and the lowest classes.

Even the obvious facts the Occupy movement tried to highlight--that there is only the Very Rich (1%) and Everyone Else (99%) isn't enough to jar them from their belief that they are not "lowly workers".

They will grab onto any shred of hope that their World View is correct --including aligning themselves with the racists, the ignorant, and those who are blatantly using them to promote their own grab at perceived power.

156 abolitionist  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:58:59pm

re: #103 Decatur Deb

Windows Vista via 300 baud dial-up.

Most people really can't type faster than 30 chars/sec.

157 jamesfirecat  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 5:58:05pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

not for me. I've got nothing to say to the man.

How about at least "congratulations for being reflected Mr. president."?


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