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Rick Santorum Now Writing for World Net Daily: ‘The UN Wants to Kill My Daughter’

Former presidential candidate promptly pens crazy anti-UN rant
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Rick Santorum has now joined the illustrious company of Pamela Geller, Jerome Corsi, and Joseph Farah, and is writing a regular column for one of the looniest wingnut sites on the web, the always inadvertently amusing World Net Daily, where they’re still totally certain that Barack Obama is a secretly gay radical Muslim atheist commie with a fake birth certificate.

Not a single one of those absurd adjectives is exaggerated. The people who write for this hive of lunacy really do believe that stuff, all of it, at the same time. Not to mention the creationism, the advocation of theocracy, the climate change denial, the insane raving homophobia, and the blatant nativism and racism. It’s a cornucopia of anti-rational far right kookery.

And Santorum’s first column for Weird Nuts Drooling fits right in; it’s a crazy rant about a United Nations treaty on the rights of disabled people that Santorum thinks is a secret conspiracy to subvert the US Constitution so they can kill his daughter.

Digging a bit deeper, the treaty has much darker and more troubling implications.

The most offensive provision is found in Section 7 of the treaty dealing specifically with children with disabilities. That section reads:

“In all actions concerning children with disabilities, the best interests of the child shall be a primary consideration.”

“The best interest of the child” standard is lifted out of a controversial provision contained in the 1989 treaty called the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child. That treaty was never ratified in large part because of this provision.

“The best interest of the child” standard may sound like it protects children, but what it does is put the government, acting under U.N. authority, in the position to determine for all children with disabilities what is best for them. That is counter to the current state of the law in this country which puts parents - not the government - in that position of determining what is in their child’s best interest. Under the laws of our country, parents lose that right only if the state, through the judicial process, determines that the parents are unfit to make that decision.

In the case of our 4-year-old daughter, Bella, who has Trisomy 18, a condition that the medical literature says is “incompatible with life,” would her “best interest” be that she be allowed to die? Some would undoubtedly say so.

Oh, for Pete’s sake.

Should somebody let Rick Santorum know that the Supreme Court has ruled on numerous occasions that the Supremacy Clause says treaties like this one cannot supersede the US Constitution, or is it too funny to just let him keep ranting away?

It’s very illuminating to see Republicans like Santorum losing their shit over an overwhelmingly positive treaty that would greatly help the disabled people of the world; makes it very easy to see that gaping cavity in their chests where a heart is supposed to be.

Also see:
Let’s Talk: The UN Convention on the Rights of Persons With Disabilities

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130 comments

1 erik_t  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:26:05pm

Never let a wingnut come into possession of a narrowly-written statement of fact. He might try to understand it.

2 TedStriker  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:26:51pm

Wingnuts do what wingnuts do naturally, I suppose.

However, it can take all of one's strength to keep from smashing oneself in the forehead with a ballpeen hammer after listening/reading their inane crap though...

3 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:31:38pm

Reid vs ?

argggghh, someone posted it more than once in a previous thread.

Supreme Court case . . . .

4 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:32:24pm

Ladies and gentlemen, second place in the Republican Party in 2012.

5 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:34:51pm

re: #3 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Reid v. Covert, 354 U.S. 1 (1957), which says the following:

The obvious and decisive answer to this, of course, is that no agreement with a foreign nation can confer power on the Congress, or on any other branch of Government, which is free from the restraints of the Constitution.

Article VI, the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution, declares:

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof, and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land;

. . .

There is nothing in this language which intimates that treaties and laws enacted pursuant to them do not have to comply with the provisions of the Constitution. Nor is there anything in the debates which accompanied the drafting and ratification of the Constitution which even suggests such a result. These debates, as well as the history that surrounds the adoption of the treaty provision in Article VI, make it clear that the reason treaties were not limited to those made in "pursuance" of the Constitution was so that agreements made by the United States under the Articles of Confederation, including the important peace treaties which concluded the Revolutionary [p17] War, would remain in effect. [n31] It would be manifestly contrary to the objectives of those who created the Constitution, as well as those who were responsible for the Bill of Rights -- let alone alien to our entire constitutional history and tradition -- to construe Article VI as permitting the United States to exercise power under an international agreement without observing constitutional prohibitions. [n32] In effect, such construction would permit amendment of that document in a manner not sanctioned by Article V. The prohibitions of the Constitution were designed to apply to all branches of the National Government, and they cannot be nullified by the Executive or by the Executive and the Senate combined.

There is nothing new or unique about what we say here. This Court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty.

Bolded for clarity and key rebuttal of Santorum's nonsensical ravings of a lunatic mind.

6 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:35:25pm

It's very illuminating to see Republicans like this losing their shit over a treaty that's overwhelmingly positive and would greatly help the disabled people of the world.

Makes it very easy to see that gaping cavity in their chests where a heart is supposed to be.

7 makeitstop  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:36:23pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

Ladies and gentlemen, second place in the Republican Party in 2012.

And the front-runner for 2016! Scary, yeah?

8 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:36:25pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

It's very illuminating to see Republicans like this losing their shit over a treaty that's overwhelmingly positive and would greatly help the disabled people of the world.

Makes it very easy to see that gaping cavity in their chests where a heart is supposed to be.

Some children just don't play well with others . . . .

10 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:38:20pm

re: #7 makeitstop

And the front-runner for 2016! Scary, yeah?

Very. What the fuck happened to that party?

11 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:38:44pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

Very. What the fuck happened to that party?

William F. Buckley died.

12 darthstar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:39:02pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

Ladies and gentlemen, second place in the Republican Party in 2012.

In Santorum's defense, the Marriott hired some other idiot to join their board, so his options were limited.

13 erik_t  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:39:27pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

Very. What the fuck happened to that party?

Nixon, and then Reagan.

14 BongCrodny  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:39:33pm

The only thing that WND is missing is Bat Boy.

15 TedStriker  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:39:42pm

re: #12 darthstar

In Santorum's defense, Marriott rehired some other idiot to join their board, so his options were limited.

FTFY...

///

16 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:42:37pm

Perhaps the real issue is that women, children and LGBT are recognized in the Declaration:

q: Recognizing that women and girls with disabilities are often at greater risk, both within and outside the home of violence, injury or abuse, neglect or negligent treatment, maltreatment or exploitation,

s: Emphasizing the need to incorporate a gender perspective in all efforts to promote the full enjoyment of human rights and fundamental freedoms by persons with disabilities,

17 darthstar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:43:07pm

re: #15 TedStriker

FTFY...

///

REhired...yes...thanks for that. Marriott must be getting ready to be caught doing unethical shit again and need someone to retroactively retire so he can't get blamed for it.

18 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:43:37pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

Ladies and gentlemen, second place in the Republican Party in 2012.

Too bad Foamy wasn't the nominee. The election would have been even more fun than it was.

19 thecommodore  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:44:03pm

re: #13 erik_t

Nixon, and then Reagan.

...then GW Bush.

In between, talk radio and Fox "News."

20 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:44:26pm

re: #13 erik_t

Nixon, and then Reagan.

Touche but still. You go from having guys like Eisenhower and Dewey to Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney. Some parties evolve with the times- see the Dems- and others actually move backwards- see the Republicans.

21 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:44:31pm

Obviously a document written by the devil:

Article 3 - General principles

The principles of the present Convention shall be:

Respect for inherent dignity, individual autonomy including the freedom to make one’s own choices, and independence of persons;
Non-discrimination;
Full and effective participation and inclusion in society;
Respect for difference and acceptance of persons with disabilities as part of human diversity and humanity;
Equality of opportunity;
Accessibility;
Equality between men and women;
Respect for the evolving capacities of children with disabilities and respect for the right of children with disabilities to preserve their identities.

Because some animals are more equal than others --it says so in the Bible.

*spit*

22 researchok  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:45:16pm

The crazy right lost the election in no small measure because of their support of an interventionist social agenda.

Did they learn the lesson that there is virtually no support for that kind of agenda save for the other crazies? No.

They believe they just picked the wrong interventionist social agendas. Now, they've just changed the the focus of the agendas. New suits, same bad ideas.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

I guess the fact this is an Einstein quote is why the had right hasn't leaned the lesson.

After all, Einstein was a scientist.

23 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:45:21pm

re: #18 Shiplord Kirel

Too bad Foamy wasn't the nominee. The election would have been even more fun than it was.

I know. Would have loved to see who he had in mind for a running mate and for his top advisers. Debates would have been fun because Foamy would have gone all out so-con since unlike Mitt he actually seems to believe in it.

24 darthstar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:46:05pm

re: #21 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Let's not forget we're talking about Rick "Hey, let's take our still-born kid home to meet its siblings!" Santorum.

25 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:49:34pm

I perused the document from Charles link. I did not see the word(s): die, death or euthanasia, suicide anywhere. I even did a word search for these particular words.

Is there a code word I don't know that I'm missing?

ahhhhhh, I just did a search for "god" and didn't find it either.

This may be the issue. I also did "jesus, christ, islam, muslim, mohammed"

didn't find those either.

There was, however, one reference to religion:

Concerned about the difficult conditions faced by persons with disabilities who are subject to multiple or aggravated forms of discrimination on the basis of race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national, ethnic, indigenous or social origin, property, birth, age or other status,

26 darthstar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:49:40pm

Okay, so the Pope is going on twitter...has 240,000+ followers and hasn't tweeted once. Oh, and he's following seven people...all fucking sock-puppets and they're all following each other.

[Link: twitter.com...]

I wish there was a way to add myself as the eighth person he's following...that'd be hilarious.

27 darthstar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:51:23pm

Rick "I loved you more when you were a fetus" Santorum using his ill daughter as a human shield to allow him to spew nonsense...fucking rich.

28 Bulworth  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:51:39pm
Should somebody let Rick Santorum know that the Supreme Court has ruled on numerous occasions that the Supremacy Clause says treaties like this one cannot supersede the US Constitution

Yeah but PBO is a secret muslim gay atheist who won't obey the Supremacy Clause. //

29 Bulworth  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:52:53pm

re: #25 Holidays are Family Fun Time

You're apparently not reading inbetween and under the words. /

30 darthstar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:53:26pm

Heh...Bowles on Boehner, "Shut up, orange man"

31 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:53:42pm

re: #29 Bulworth

You're apparently not reading inbetween and under the words. /

Yeah, there is not enough about morals, responsibility and JESUS and too much about love, kindness and respect.

32 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:53:48pm

re: #14 BongCrodny

The only thing that WND is missing is Bat Boy.

I resemble that remark. I worked for Weekly World News ("the world's most reliable newspaper") during its heyday in the 1980s. They had incomparably better fact checking and journalistic integrity than Whirled Nut could imagine. For example, old timers may remember several articles about WW2 planes being found in really strange places: A TBM Avenger in Earth orbit, a B-25 on the Moon, and finally a B-29 on Mars. Several especially astute readers realized that the planes with greater range were found farther away. Yep, it's true, all of it.

33 darthstar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:54:31pm
34 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:55:08pm

If the Pope comes out in favor of the Treaty will Rick change his tune?

35 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:56:14pm

As I said downstairs I take this as a positive development. It shows that Santorum is going to make no pretense of being a moderate candidate but rather is going full-metal wingnut. If he wins the nomination in 2016 it will be as the rabidly far-right "true conservative" candidate the party fundamentalists have been dreaming of for the last decade.

When he is rejected at the polls who will the Republicans/Tea Party blame then?

36 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:57:55pm

re: #26 darthstar

Okay, so the Pope is going on twitter...has 240,000+ followers and hasn't tweeted once. Oh, and he's following seven people...all fucking sock-puppets and they're all following each other.

[Link: twitter.com...]

I wish there was a way to add myself as the eighth person he's following...that'd be hilarious.

Tell him to follow you or you will expose the truth, no specifics, let his conscience do the work for you...

/

37 Bulworth  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:59:18pm

re: #21 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Well, smart, moral people like Rick no better than you and I how sinister terms like "inherent dignity" are. //

38 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:00:23pm

Btw, Batboy is actually Jonathan Goldsmith, who now plays "the most interesting man in the world" on Dos Equis commercials.

(No, not really, though Goldsmith has had a most remarkable career. Among other things, he was one of the few Star Trek redshirts to survive an entire episode.)

39 Bulworth  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:00:42pm

"Patriot Voices". That's funny. Yeah, that's what Rick brings to the table. /

40 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:01:06pm

re: #34 Holidays are Family Fun Time

If the Pope comes out in favor of the Treaty will Rick change his tune?

I doubt it. John Paul II was very much anti-Iraq war and Santorum supported ti strongly.

41 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:02:29pm

re: #34 Holidays are Family Fun Time

If the Pope comes out in favor of the Treaty will Rick change his tune?

So a Santorum WH would be run from Rome? Just like the Kennedy WH.

//

42 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:03:21pm

Favorite Dos Equis commercial:

43 Targetpractice  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:03:27pm

re: #30 darthstar

Heh...Bowles on Boehner, "Shut up, orange man"

[Embedded content]

And now the White House tells John of Orange "No fucking way":

White House: GOP Fiscal Cliff Offer ‘Sticks The Middle Class With The Bill’

“The Republican letter released today does not meet the test of balance. In fact, it actually promises to lower rates for the wealthy and sticks the middle class with the bill. Their plan includes nothing new and provides no details on which deductions they would eliminate, which loopholes they will close or which Medicare savings they would achieve. Independent analysts who have looked at plans like this one have concluded that middle class taxes will have to go up to pay for lower rates for millionaires and billionaires. While the President is willing to compromise to get a significant, balanced deal and believes that compromise is readily available to Congress, he is not willing to compromise on the principles of fairness and balance that include asking the wealthiest to pay higher rates. President Obama believes – and the American people agree – that the economy works best when it is grown from the middle out, not from the top down. Until the Republicans in Congress are willing to get serious about asking the wealthiest to pay slightly higher tax rates, we won’t be able to achieve a significant, balanced approach to reduce our deficit our nation needs.”

44 makeitstop  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:06:36pm

re: #39 Bulworth

"Patriot Voices". That's funny. Yeah, that's what Rick brings to the table. /

He hears them in his head.

45 Lidane  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:08:44pm

re: #2 TedStriker

Wingnuts do what wingnuts do naturally, I suppose.

However, it can take all of one's strength to keep from smashing oneself in the forehead with a ballpeen hammer after listening/reading their inane crap though...

On a related note:

Is This One of David Barton’s Favorite Winger Websites?

Looks like David Barton enjoys trolling at least one website filled with right-wing hysteria about FEMA concentration camps, President Obama’s complicity in the murder of a U.S. ambassador and an America on the verge of a new civil war.

Whee!

46 Achilles Tang  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:09:12pm

And I thought it was bad when Chuck Norris (the guy with martial arts head injury) started writing for them about FEMA concentration camps. Little did I know...

47 Lidane  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:09:12pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

Ladies and gentlemen, second place in the Republican Party in 2012.

Making him the presumptive nominee in 2016. What fun.

48 Lidane  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:10:21pm

re: #5 lawhawk

There is nothing new or unique about what we say here. This Court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty.

Bolded for clarity and key rebuttal of Santorum's nonsensical ravings of a lunatic mind.

The problem here is that you're trying to apply logic and facts and reason to a mind stuck on HERP DERP ELEVENTY ZOMG.

49 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:14:13pm

re: #19 thecommodore

...then GW Bush.

In between, talk radio and Fox "News."

And we shouldn't forget Frank Luntz, the 1994 "Gingrich revolution", and the "Contract with on America"

50 Lidane  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:17:16pm

Sorry for the OT, but at least one person I know is derping about this from one of the Breitbart sites:

IRAQI REFUGEE BOMBS AZ SOCIAL SECURITY OFFICE, MSM REMAINS SILENT (Google cache link)

The link in the article where is says "reports indicate" goes to PJ Media.

I call bullshit. I'm not seeing anything about this. I'm pretty sure if a federal office was bombed, it would be on the news.

51 Gus  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:22:30pm

re: #50 Lidane

Sorry for the OT, but at least one person I know is derping about this from one of the Breitbart sites:

IRAQI REFUGEE BOMBS AZ SOCIAL SECURITY OFFICE, MSM REMAINS SILENT (Google cache link)

The link in the article where is says "reports indicate" goes to PJ Media.

I call bullshit. I'm not seeing anything about this. I'm pretty sure if a federal office was bombed, it would be on the news.

But, but, they arrested a guy so he must be guilty! Shoot him!

Here's something at HuffPo:

...

Swannee Welsh, a friend of Aldosary, said she finds it hard to imagine him committing such a crime. In the four years that they have lived near one another, she has known Aldosary as "friendly, laughing, smiling and cordial."

"I don't believe it, not for a minute," Welsh told ABC-15.

Welsh also said that Aldosary worked as a day laborer at the Social Security office. FBI officials searched Aldosary's house late Friday.

Court records show Aldosary served a prison sentence four years ago in an aggravated harassment case against his former employer.

In addition, he is currently facing assault and disorderly conduct charges in a separate case in Casa Grande, KPHO reports.

52 researchok  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:24:56pm

It just occurred to me Santorum's position on this treaty is no different than other, backward and repressive societies.

Only they have enough sense to keep their mouths shut.

53 Gus  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:25:50pm

And yes, Iraqi immigrants might be just as crazy as Americans and incidents like this may have nothing to do with "terrorism." Stupid bigots.

54 researchok  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:27:30pm

re: #53 Gus

Another nut job gets elevated to monster status predicated on race.

Good thing white folks aren't crazy.

Except for...

55 Gus  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:28:30pm

re: #54 researchok

Another nut job gets elevated to monster status predicated on race.

Good thing white folks aren't crazy.

Except for...

Terrorists?

56 researchok  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:30:24pm

re: #55 Gus

We need a new category..Stupidist

57 dragonfire1981  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:33:13pm

I don't know it if it would properly be called Isolationist thinking, but there's group on the conservative side who well and truly believes that no country should have any involvement with another unless said involvement is akin to invading and occupying that country.

They believe that any, ANY international move on anything should never be allowed.

58 dragonath  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:36:16pm

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel

It's a little known fact that Balok had the Fesarius well stocked with cases of Dos Equis in case his supply of Tranya went dry.

59 aagcobb  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:39:23pm

re: #35 watching you tiny alien kittens are

As I said downstairs I take this as a positive development. It shows that Santorum is going to make no pretense of being a moderate candidate but rather is going full-metal wingnut. If he wins the nomination in 2016 it will be as the rabidly far-right "true conservative" candidate the party fundamentalists have been dreaming of for the last decade.

When he is rejected at the polls who will the Republicans/Tea Party blame then?

ACORN!!!!11TY!!!!

60 Sionainn  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:40:25pm

re: #5 lawhawk

Reid v. Covert, 354 U.S. 1 (1957), which says the following:

. . .

There is nothing in this language which intimates that treaties and laws enacted pursuant to them do not have to comply with the provisions of the Constitution. Nor is there anything in the debates which accompanied the drafting and ratification of the Constitution which even suggests such a result. These debates, as well as the history that surrounds the adoption of the treaty provision in Article VI, make it clear that the reason treaties were not limited to those made in "pursuance" of the Constitution was so that agreements made by the United States under the Articles of Confederation, including the important peace treaties which concluded the Revolutionary [p17] War, would remain in effect. [n31] It would be manifestly contrary to the objectives of those who created the Constitution, as well as those who were responsible for the Bill of Rights -- let alone alien to our entire constitutional history and tradition -- to construe Article VI as permitting the United States to exercise power under an international agreement without observing constitutional prohibitions. [n32] In effect, such construction would permit amendment of that document in a manner not sanctioned by Article V. The prohibitions of the Constitution were designed to apply to all branches of the National Government, and they cannot be nullified by the Executive or by the Executive and the Senate combined.

There is nothing new or unique about what we say here. This Court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty.

Bolded for clarity and key rebuttal of Santorum's nonsensical ravings of a lunatic mind.

Isn't Rick Santorum an attorney? Must have been one hell of a school because even I, without an education in the law, knew that a treaty can't overrule the Constitution.

61 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:41:19pm

re: #58 dragonath

It's a little known fact that Balok had the Fesarius well stocked with cases of Dos Equis in case his supply of Tranya went dry.

Is it a known fact that Balok was Opie Taylor's little brother?

62 gwangung  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:43:12pm

re: #61 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Is it a known fact that Balok was Opie Taylor's little brother?

If you're a Trekkie, yeah.

63 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:45:21pm

re: #58 dragonath

It's a little known fact that Balok had the Fesarius well stocked with cases of Dos Equis in case his supply of Tranya went dry.

no Romulan Ale?

Oh wait, they had not yet encountered the Romulans.

64 dragonfire1981  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:47:52pm

re: #63 Holidays are Family Fun Time

no Romulan Ale?

Oh wait, they had not yet encountered the Romulans.

"Romulan Ale should be illegal..."

65 Jack Burton  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:51:14pm

re: #64 dragonfire1981

"Romulan Ale should be illegal..."

"It is" Geordi Laforge in 2379

"Romulan Ale. The trading embargo has been lifted." Admiral Ross in 2374

uuhhhhhh....

66 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:57:33pm

UN Wants to kill Santorums child, while trying to save other girls from abuse?

Really Rick, who is pulling your strings?

67 nines09  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:00:29pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

Ladies and gentlemen, second place in the Republican Party in 2012.

And that should scare the shit out of a sane person. Is this where Rick officially jumps the shark? Nah. He can go deeper into the sewers of his mind and show us more.

68 Lidane  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:03:51pm

re: #57 dragonfire1981

I don't know it if it would properly be called Isolationist thinking, but there's group on the conservative side who well and truly believes that no country should have any involvement with another unless said involvement is akin to invading and occupying that country.

They believe that any, ANY international move on anything should never be allowed.

Those are called Ron Paul fanboys. They're just as stupid as Crazy Uncle Liberty.

69 Gus  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:05:52pm
70 Lidane  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:09:00pm

re: #69 Gus

Related:

71 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:10:53pm

The UN has no power, they are not a government. The UN is a bunch of diplomats.

The Convention (I think it's called) is and extension or clarification of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. I hope everyone can agree that this is a good document. It isn't a document of law --it cannot be enforced.

It is simply a statement of how humans should regard each other. Believe it or not GOP, the rest of the world wasn't raised the way you were. There are people who have no idea that there is such a thing as individual rights.

We as a species, must stand for our beliefs across the entire planet. We may never succeed in making it a place in which every person has the opportunity to persue their right to life, liberty and happiness, but we SURE AS HELL can declare our intention to do so.

Without the Declaration, we can go no where.

Now, yes, there is such a thing as the International Criminal Court. AS I understand it, the UN is powerless to hold such courts if member nations do not participate. The UN, in and of itself, has no power, no military. Yes, NO?

In other words, Santorum, the UN cannot kill your daughter.

72 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:12:22pm

re: #69 Gus

[Embedded content]

Yes, all dicks are whacked off at birth --It's a UN law.

*spit*

73 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:12:50pm

Ok, you are hereby spared anymore rants.

I'm going to be productive for a while.

74 Gus  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:12:53pm
75 Gus  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:13:42pm

re: #70 Lidane

Related:

[Embedded content]

re: #72 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Yes, all dicks are whacked off at birth --It's a UN law.

*spit*

He made Salon.

He's vewy angwy now.

76 bratwurst  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:15:16pm

re: #69 Gus

[Embedded content]

George Will was way ahead of the curve on this. About three years ago he lamented the deterioration of male role models, noting that in 1959, there were 27 Westerns on prime-time television glamorizing male responsibility.

Watching westerns makes men more manly, you see.

77 allegro  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:16:37pm

re: #75 Gus

re: #72 Holidays are Family Fun Time

He made Salon.

[Embedded content]

He's vewy angwy now.

If feminists are so powerful that we have changed the world, then we must be pretty strong and aggressive... has the cognitive dissonance set in yet?

78 McSpiff  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:17:13pm

Can't wait to see the 2016 candidates. I really can't

79 darthstar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:18:18pm

re: #78 McSpiff

Can't wait to see the 2016 candidates. I really can't

I can. And I wish I could wait until August of 2016 before any of them were even discussed.

80 dragonfire1981  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:22:13pm

Ok so I have to ask, what makes a real man?

Sure I like football, combat sports, target shooting and video games.

But I am also not ashamed to admit that I cook, clean, do laundry, buy groceries, love my wife with every fiber of my being, cry during romantic movies, enjoy some love songs and yes, have occasionally played with dolls.

Now to some I might be a pansy, but I think I'm pretty real.

81 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:25:22pm

re: #80 dragonfire1981

Ok so I have to ask, what makes a real man?

Sure I like football, combat sports, target shooting and video games.

But I am also not ashamed to admit that I cook, clean, do laundry, buy groceries, love my wife with every fiber of my being, cry during romantic movies, enjoy some love songs and yes, have occasionally played with dolls.

Now to some I might be a pansy, but I think I'm pretty real.

And keep it real dude.

Note: Maybe keep the doll thing on the down low.

82 TedStriker  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:26:37pm

re: #81 Eventual Carrion

And keep it real dude.

Note: Maybe keep the doll thing on the down low.

GI Joes are "manly" dolls, don'tchaknow?

///

83 dragonfire1981  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:27:22pm

re: #81 Eventual Carrion

And keep it real dude.

Note: Maybe keep the doll thing on the down low.

I was doing playtime with the young daughter of a friend of mine. :P

84 dragonfire1981  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:27:45pm

re: #82 TedStriker

GI Joes are "manly" dolls, don'tchaknow?

///

That's not a doll man, it's a ACTION FIGURE.

85 darthstar  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:29:20pm
86 Sionainn  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:30:09pm

re: #75 Gus

re: #72 Holidays are Family Fun Time

He made Salon.

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He's vewy angwy now.

He's a Limbaugh tool. Not surprising, really.

87 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:34:16pm

re: #74 Gus

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Sociologically speaking there's a lot of Baby Boom in that graph.

88 Targetpractice  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:36:22pm

And here's the punt:

Boehner’s Office To White House: Present A Plan That Can Pass Congress

House Speaker John Boehner's (R-OH) office offered a rejoinder to the White House's rejection of its fiscal cliff counter-proposal, inviting President Obama to come up with a plan that can pass Congress.

“Republicans have once again offered a responsible, balanced plan to avoid the fiscal cliff, and the White House has once again demonstrated how unreasonable it has become," Boehner's spokesman Brendan Buck said in a statement emailed to TPM. "If the President is rejecting this middle ground offer, it is now his obligation to present a plan that can pass both chambers of Congress."

He did, John. It's sitting on your desk. It's that bill that would make tax cuts for 98% of Americans permanent. Do you have the balls to put it to a vote?

89 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:37:20pm

re: #76 bratwurst

George Will was way ahead of the curve on this. About three years ago he lamented the deterioration of male role models, noting that in 1959, there were 27 Westerns on prime-time television glamorizing male responsibility.

Watching westerns makes men more manly, you see.

An amazing percentage of those shows were built around an interchangeable standard character, usually a broken, haunted loner whose personal trademark was a special gun that somehow helped him cope with his inner torment. Yep, great role models.
There were also absurdities like the still popular Bonanza, nominally set in the Civil War period in Nevada (newly settled at the time) but with a decades-old town and characters using 1890s guns and wearing 20th century Stetson hats.
Don't even get me started on the musical scoring typical of these programs, often a loud, continuous, simplistic, and melodramatic cacophony the like of which has seldom been heard this side of hell.
There were exceptions of course. Some of the theme songs, as opposed to background music, were good. This is true of two of my favorite TV westerns. The Rifleman overcame the stereotyped genre with good acting from Chuck Connors (and cast) and writing that was actually thoughtful and humane at times. My favorite is Have Gun, Will Travel with the erudite Richard Boone as a similarly erudite gunfighter engaged in all sorts of rollicking adventure.

90 engineer cat  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:38:44pm

Some would undoubtedly say so.

some would say that this is undoubtedly another example of the "some would say" fallacy

91 Lidane  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:41:42pm

re: #88 Targetpractice

And here's the punt:

Boehner’s Office To White House: Present A Plan That Can Pass Congress

So the Executive branch comes up with the budget now?

92 palomino  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:44:00pm

All you have to do is put the phrase "United Nations" in front of anything, and the Santorum/WND crowd will oppose it ferociously. Knee jerk nonsense.

93 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:45:18pm

re: #88 Targetpractice

Republicans have once again offered a responsible, balanced plan to avoid the fiscal cliff, and the White House has once again demonstrated how unreasonable it has become

So. Is this performance art, projection, or a casting call for an Inigo Montoya impersonator?

94 Targetpractice  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:45:53pm

re: #91 Lidane

So the Executive branch comes up with the budget now?

It's pretty much Boehner all but saying that no deal will be made, because the GOP won't agree to tax increases and dropping those will be pretty much capitulation to them.

Over the cliff, we go.

95 Gus  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:57:32pm

Butthurt.

96 dragonfire1981  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:58:09pm

re: #94 Targetpractice

It's pretty much Boehner all but saying that no deal will be made, because the GOP won't agree to tax increases and dropping those will be pretty much capitulation to them.

Over the cliff, we go.

And they will attempt to blame every darn bit of it on Obama too because he "refused to compromise".

You just watch.

97 Four More Tears  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:58:09pm

re: #89 Shiplord Kirel

The following video sums up your entire post, from the loner to the music...

98 dragonfire1981  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 3:59:52pm

re: #95 Gus

[Embedded content]

Butthurt.

Powers also noted statistics showing that people are more likely to die in a dispute if a gun is involved, to which Larson responded, "Kirsten is wrong." In fact, data show that guns greatly increase the probability that women who are victims of domestic violence will be killed by their abuser.

Larson ended the segment with a blunt thought regarding Belcher's girlfriend: "Maybe if she'd owned a firearm, she'd still be alive today."

*facepalm*

99 Four More Tears  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:01:26pm

re: #89 Shiplord Kirel

An amazing percentage of those shows were built around an interchangeable standard character, usually a broken, haunted loner whose personal trademark was a special gun that somehow helped him cope with his inner torment. Yep, great role models.
There were also absurdities like the still popular Bonanza, nominally set in the Civil War period in Nevada (newly settled at the time) but with a decades-old town and characters using 1890s guns and wearing 20th century Stetson hats.
Don't even get me started on the musical scoring typical of these programs, often a loud, continuous, simplistic, and melodramatic cacophony the like of which has seldom been heard this side of hell.
There were exceptions of course. Some of the theme songs, as opposed to background music, were good. This is true of two of my favorite TV westerns. The Rifleman overcame the stereotyped genre with good acting from Chuck Connors (and cast) and writing that was actually thoughtful and humane at times. My favorite is Have Gun, Will Travel with the erudite Richard Boone as a similarly erudite gunfighter engaged in all sorts of rollicking adventure.

Oh, and let's not talk about what those shows had to say about Native Americans...

100 dragonfire1981  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:01:29pm

Oh and look who else chimed on the Costas comments:

‘‘You tune in for a football game and end up listening to Bob Costas spewing sanctimonious dreck,’’ tweeted Herman Cain, the former GOP presidential candidate.

101 BongCrodny  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:01:56pm

re: #69 Gus

Part of the problem with the world is that men are not men anymore. Liberals have made this world so feminine it is pathetic!

Exactly. Our society has become so wussified you can hardly ever see hunting shows or football or boxing or hockey or UFC any more.

102 engineer cat  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:03:10pm

mixed metaphor alert

the white house can afford to play chicken since it has the gop's back to the wall because if we go over the cliff they lose all their trump cards

103 dragonath  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:03:10pm

re: #89 Shiplord Kirel

Don't even get me started on the musical scoring typical of these programs, often a loud, continuous, simplistic, and melodramatic cacophony the like of which has seldom been heard this side of hell.

DUNDUHDUNDUHDUNDUH

BOOOONAAAAANZAAAAAAAA

104 Gus  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:06:22pm
106 dragonath  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:08:02pm

BTW, this guy became famous in East Germany playing Indians in "Red Westerns".

107 kirkspencer  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:13:54pm

re: #94 Targetpractice

It's pretty much Boehner all but saying that no deal will be made, because the GOP won't agree to tax increases and dropping those will be pretty much capitulation to them.

Over the cliff, we go.

Not A Cliff.

Which is, I admit, part of the GOP panic.

108 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:14:33pm

re: #106 dragonath

BTW, this guy became famous in East Germany playing Indians in "Red Westerns".

Yah, he looks aboriginal.

109 Gus  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:16:06pm

re: #108 b_sharp

Yah, he looks aboriginal.

Image: 31dvd.2.650.jpg

110 engineer cat  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:19:10pm

five'll getcha ten the house passes obama's middle class tax cut and a repeal of sequestration before the fat man in the red suit sings

111 Lidane  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:19:21pm

Related to erik_t's avatar:

Crappy Holidays from Grumpy Cat

112 jaunte  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:20:26pm

re: #69 Gus

Viva Max!

113 dragonath  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:21:12pm

re: #112 jaunte

Hey, he spelled "insanity" wrong.

114 Gus  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:21:50pm

re: #112 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Viva Max!

And Generalissimo Maxi Pad!

//

115 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:24:08pm

re: #111 Lidane

Image: 9r3M1.jpg

116 Gus  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:27:12pm

Whoa. Speaking of this treaty...

McCain calls Kerry ‘Mr. Secretary,’ Kerry responds ‘Thank you, Mr. President’

At a press conference urging the ratification of the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) jokingly referred to his colleague Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) as “Mr. Secretary.

117 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:27:43pm

I did a stupid thing.

I went over to Fox and read John Lott's response to Bob Costas. I noticed that Lott liked to cite himself, an indicator of poor research and narcissism, so I took a look at the man himself.

I found that he created and used a sockpuppet to improve the ratings of his books and even had his wife write a glowing review.

I then, I'd like to say dove, but it was more of a stumble into one of his books on Amazon. After reading just a few pages I noticed a number of indicators of hack journalism - cherry picking, red herrings, forced conclusions, and worst of all explanations of human emotional responses as statistics. This last tactic is the same used by people like Watts from WattsUpWithThat when they can't understand the underlying science.

I'm finding it very difficult to not buy the book and poke holes in it.

118 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:28:31pm

re: #109 Gus

Image: 31dvd.2.650.jpg

Doesn't look aboriginal.

119 TedStriker  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:28:40pm

re: #112 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Viva Max!

Max to the max!

120 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:29:16pm

re: #112 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Viva Max!

Is today retweet a dufus day?

121 wrenchwench  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:30:16pm

re: #118 b_sharp

Doesn't look aboriginal.

Photoshop? Whose abs do you think they are?

122 Gus  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:30:38pm

re: #118 b_sharp

Doesn't look aboriginal.

Image: 4500864_l4.jpg

123 Patricia Kayden  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:33:12pm

re: #18 Shiplord Kirel

He's running again in 2016. Or so he promised.

124 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:34:27pm

re: #121 wrenchwench

Photoshop? Whose abs do you think they are?

"I know aboriginals, and you sir are no aboriginal."

125 RadicalModerate  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:36:45pm

Regarding Santorum joining up with the WND nuthouse.

The article talks about yet-another John Birch Society-fed conspiracy (along with the non-existent FEMA Camps, NAFTA, black helicopters, gun confiscation campaigns, ad nauseam) over how the commie UN is going to take over the United States. Never mind that not a single one of their fevered predictions have come to pass. On the other hand their mindset has given rise to individuals like Randy Weaver, Timothy McVeigh, Eric Rudolph, David Adkisson, James Von Brunn, and groups like the Minuteman and Hutaree militia groups.

Meanwhile, at WND, what is their solution to liberalism?
Round all the liberals up and execute them for treason.

WND Columnist: Prosecute Liberals, Journalists for Treason

126 Achilles Tang  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:52:48pm

I'm waiting for Allen West to write for WND any day now. A match made in heaven or hell.

127 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 5:30:10pm

Charles Johnson,

I'm loosing more and more respect for the Republican party every day, and this is just helping the process along.

128 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 5:31:27pm

re: #125 RadicalModerate

I saw that. WMD is basically the National Enquirer for the radical right only more political and more conspiratorial, and unfortunately I think much more people take it seriously.

129 John Q  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 6:22:31pm

There's a reason it's known as World Nut Daily.

130 labman57  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 7:12:45pm

Ignorance is bliss, intolerance divine, conspiracy theories abound, and racism is thriving at that pinnacle of the delusional right wing blogosphere known as WND ... which certainly explains why these folks are so enamored with Righteous Rick.


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