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Anti-Vaccination Insanity Goes Mainstream in Congress

Bi-partisan bad craziness
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This time we can’t blame the craziness entirely on Republicans, although they’re the most enthusiastic promoters of this insanity: Congress Hearing on Vaccines Is a Farce of Dangerous Antivax Nonsense.

Also on the anti-science side in this ludicrous hearing: Dennis “UFOs are real” Kucinich (D-Ohio).

Virtually every claim made by antivaxxers is wrong. And this is a critically important issue; vaccines have literally saved hundreds of millions of lives. They save infants from potentially fatal but preventable diseases like pertussis and the flu.

So why did Congress hold hearings this week promoting crackpot antivax views?

I’m not exaggerating. The Committee on Oversight and Government Reform held a hearing trying to look into the cause and prevention of autism. Rep. Dan Burton (R-Ind.) launched into a several-minute diatribe (beginning at 12:58 in the video above) that starts off in an Orwellian statement: He claims he’s not antivax. Then he launches into a five-minute speech that promotes long-debunked and clearly incorrect antivax claims, targeting mercury for the most part. Burton has long been an advocate for quackery; for at least a decade he has used Congressional situations like this to promote antiscience.

In the latest hearing, Burton sounds like a crackpot conspiracy theorist, to be honest, saying he knows—better than thousands of scientists who have spent their careers investigating these topics—that thimerosal causes neurological disorders (including autism). He goes on for some time about mercury (as does Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) starting at 21:44 in the video), making it clear he doesn’t have a clue what he’s talking about. For example, very few vaccines still use mercury, and the ones that do use it in tiny amounts and in a form that does not accumulate in the body.

Talking about the danger of mercury in vaccines is like talking about the danger of having hydrogen—an explosive element!—in water. It’s nonsense.

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101 comments

1 Jack Burton  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:36:18pm

Next on the agenda... Fluoridation and Chemtrails!


Clown shoes... seriously.

2 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:36:26pm

I really do find myself wondering sometimes if it's gonna take a massive return of childhood illnesses, the majority preventable with modern vaccines, before people will finally dump this shit once and for all. Do we need a modern-day Polio pandemic for people to stop and think that maybe the anti-vaxxers should be treated like loons and pariahs instead of just people with "concerns"?

3 Ian G.  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:37:06pm

Every time the GOPers talk about the dangers of mercury in vaccines or fluorescent light bulbs, someone should ask them their position on the EPA's rules to limit mercury emissions from coal-fired power plants. I would love to see the reactions.

Also, to the many pontificators out there who repeat the "both sides do it" mantra about why Washington is dysfunctional, I'd agree with you if Dennis Kucinich were the median Dem. That's what it would take for me to agree that that the Dems are as loony as the GOP.

4 Kragar  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:37:20pm

OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE!

5 Skip Intro  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:38:51pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

I really do find myself wondering sometimes if it's gonna take a massive return of childhood illnesses, the majority preventable with modern vaccines, before people will finally dump this shit once and for all. Do we need a modern-day Polio pandemic for people to stop and think that maybe the anti-vaxxers should be treated like loons and pariahs instead of just people with "concerns"?

I'm afraid that so much of the country has gone wingnut that they'll see it as an Act of God against a Godless Nation. Certainly all of the usual suspects will.

6 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:39:46pm

re: #5 Skip Intro

I'm afraid that so much of the country has gone wingnut that they'll see it as an Act of God against a Godless Nation. Certainly all of the usual suspects will.

I thought it was the cervical cancer vaccine that caused promiscuity...

7 The Mountain That Blogs  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:41:36pm

re: #6 Sol Berdinowitz

promiscuity and mental retardation. Man, what a horrible thing.
/Bachmann

8 Kragar  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:43:19pm

Maybe they can call up noted immunologist and researcher Jenny McCarthy to testify for them.

9 Jolo5309  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:44:37pm

re: #1 Jack Burton

Next on the agenda... Fluoridation and Chemtrails!

Clown shoes... seriously.

+ for Clown shoes!

10 Alexzander  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:44:41pm

Generally, I'm sympathetic to Kucinich's idealism but this is unfortunate.

11 bluecheese  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:45:59pm
I'd agree with you if Dennis Kucinich were the median Dem.

Didn't ole Dennis just get pulled off the stage a while back?

He isn't a house member anymore IIRC.

12 Jack Burton  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:46:15pm

Even with Luap Nor out, the way things are going in the House, I expect the 'End The Fed' kooks on both sides of the aisle to start their Federal Reserve auditwitch-hunt for the 5 Illuminati Joo-Bankers that secretly rule the world by enslaving us with fiat currency from the Death Star of David.

Or... some... shit...

13 erik_t  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:46:25pm

Dennis, you fucking buffoon. You've raised the bar of your own embarrassment, and my god that is saying something.

GTFO and hit your ass on every door in the district.

14 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:46:38pm

re: #10 Alexzander

Generally, I'm sympathetic to Kucinich's idealism but this is unfortunate.

I've always looked at Dennis as sort of the GOP Luap Nor, a guy who keeps his seat simply because the DNC worries that if he ever ran somebody against him, it would just help the GOP take the seat.

15 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:47:09pm

Got in a fight at another site the other day because of this crap. From there:

[quote="painter"](Snipped before I get angry)[/quote]

Come on up here some time. Let me take you to an old cemetary. One that has burials from the bad old days before vaccinations and pasteurization... One where there's lots of these itty bitty stones all over marking where someone didn't even get to see their 5th birthday.

Image: 384461-R1-031-14_014.jpg

Even If the vaccines caused autism (which I do not believe) they will still be worth that cost. The majority of Anti-Vaxxer's that I have dealt with are promoting a situation which will result in the return of mass deaths of children because they are too stupid to read the research and understand the science involved.

And all of it started because that rat bastard in England faked a paper for profit.

16 erik_t  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:47:09pm

re: #11 bluecheese

Didn't ole Dennis just get pulled off the stage a while back?

He isn't a house member anymore IIRC.

He remains as a lame duck. Thank God, we'll be rid of him in January.

17 Stanghazi  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:49:57pm

Once again the #1 priority is jobs.

18 erik_t  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:50:17pm

re: #17 Stanghazi

Once again the #1 priority is jobs.

For gravediggers?

Might work.

19 Amory Blaine  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:50:33pm

There's too many of them. We're going to be dealing with these looney people till the end of time.

20 Amory Blaine  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:52:59pm

Here's a sign I came across the other day. I can't tell if it's real because frankly I've never witnessed it in my 40+ yrs.

Image: young_republicans_salute_labor.jpg

21 bluecheese  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:53:09pm

Oh, and another thing....

“UFOs are real” people are not any more crazy than the "Jesus is real" people.

I think I must be crazy too, cause I wonder if Jesus actually came here on a UFO. (Dey call em fiery chariots in the bible.)

22 jaunte  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:53:20pm

If these idiots actually believed what they claim to believe about Thimerosal, they'd be banning seafood.

23 jaunte  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:54:10pm

re: #22 jaunte

If these idiots actually believed what they claim to believe about Thimerosal, they'd be banning seafood.

And coal-fired power plants.

24 Zathras  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:56:47pm

There are a lot of anti-vax people on both the left and the right, but they have very different paths for getting there. The ones on the left are suspicious because of big corporations making the vaccines, and a general suspicion of anything that is synthetic. The ones on the right on the other hand don't believe in the authority of science, so you get links there between anti-vaccine advocates, young-earth-creationists, global warming hoaxers, etc. So the left is anti-technology, while the right is anti-science.

25 erik_t  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:57:02pm

re: #22 jaunte

If these idiots actually believed what they claim to believe about Thimerosal, they'd be banning seafood.

You mean if these idiots actually considered the science reputable (which it sure as shit does not appear to be).

This is belief entirely apart from any presumed scientific mechanism. It's generic paranoid conspiracy bullshit.

26 sauceruney  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:58:39pm

Hey! UFO's may be real. Let's leave them out of this!

27 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:58:47pm

Reminds me about the numerous voices who screamed out that the FDA's totally in the pocket of big business because Dr. Oz told them that apple juice is full of arsenic. How did he know? Well, he ran some of his own tests, all of which he can't divulge the methodology behind, and "proved" all kinds of arsenic is in apple juice.

28 Amory Blaine  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:58:57pm

People who have little if any knowledge of science have little to trust from corporate America frankly. The tobacco industry had doctors lying to the public about the safety of cigarettes.

29 HappyWarrior  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:59:34pm

This shit gets old.

30 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:59:48pm

re: #26 sauceruney

Hey! UFO's may be real. Let's leave them out of this!

UFOs may be real, but I very much doubt that aliens crossed the stars to investigate the activities of a barely sentient species.

31 Jolo5309  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:59:50pm

re: #27 Targetpractice

Reminds me about the numerous voices who screamed out that the FDA's totally in the pocket of big business because Dr. Oz told them that apple juice is full of arsenic. How did he know? Well, he ran some of his own tests, all of which he can't divulge the methodology behind, and "proved" all kinds of arsenic is in apple juice.

I don't understand why people don't know that Oz is so full of shit his eyes are brown

32 Charles Johnson  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:00:13pm

Unfortunately this anti-vaccination quackery is one of the very few conspiracy theory-ish memes that does cross political lines. There are more than a few liberals who promote this stuff too. Jenny McCarthy is a liberal politically, but one of the worst anti-science nutjobs in this movement.

33 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:00:45pm

re: #31 Jolo5309

I don't understand why people don't know that Oz is so full of shit his eyes are brown

Because he has a TV show, and you know they wouldn't give him one if he wasn't telling the truth!///

It's a bit like the idiots who swear that they can't put anything that's no true on the Internet.

34 Kragar  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:01:30pm

re: #30 Targetpractice

UFOs may be real, but I very much doubt that aliens crossed the stars to investigate the activities of a barely sentient species.

Why not? We've got people who spend their whole lives doing that?

Of course, its more likely they would come to loot the planet, but we'll skip that part for now.

35 Amory Blaine  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:01:51pm

McCarthy comes across as looney in her assertions. I was hoping that looniness would help discredit the movement. It clearly has not.

36 HappyWarrior  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:02:01pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Unfortunately this anti-vaccination is one of the very few conspiracy theory-ish memes that does cross political lines. There are more than a few liberals who promote this stuff too. Jenny McCarthy is a liberal politically, but one of the worst anti-science nutjobs in this movement.

Yeah, it's a bipartisan coalition of idiots when it comes to the anti vaccine crap. Bill Maher is another lefty who engages in it. One of the reasons why I prefer Jon Stewart aside from Bill's cocky attitude is that. Plus, Jon's more funny and a better interviewer.

37 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:02:28pm

re: #35 Amory Blaine

McCarthy comes across as looney in her assertions. I was hoping that looniness would help discredit the movement. It clearly has not.

Hey now, they're parents with "concerns," who are just "asking questions."

//

38 Gus  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:02:43pm

There's no evidence of alien spacecraft other than a bunch of crappy images. Unidentified can mean anything. Until someone finds some real evidence there's no such thing as UFOs.

39 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:03:18pm

re: #27 Targetpractice

Reminds me about the numerous voices who screamed out that the FDA's totally in the pocket of big business because Dr. Oz told them that apple juice is full of arsenic. How did he know? Well, he ran some of his own tests, all of which he can't divulge the methodology behind, and "proved" all kinds of arsenic is in apple juice.

A Google search turns up this article from the Consumer Reports people. I used to trust CR years and years ago, but (a) it's been a while since I've read them and (b) I was very young then. I don't know where they stand nowadays.

40 jamesfirecat  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:03:52pm

re: #24 Zathras

There are a lot of anti-vax people on both the left and the right, but they have very different paths for getting there. The ones on the left are suspicious because of big corporations making the vaccines, and a general suspicion of anything that is synthetic. The ones on the right on the other hand don't believe in the authority of science, so you get links there between anti-vaccine advocates, young-earth-creationists, global warming hoaxers, etc. So the left is anti-technology, while the right is anti-science.

I think it'd be better to say "a portion of the left is anti-science" or "anti-vaxers on the left are anti-technology"

Because the amount of "anti-technology" sentiment coming from the left is not anywhere close to the amount of "anti-science" you see from the right.

41 sauceruney  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:03:54pm

re: #30 Targetpractice

Notice my "may be" instead of "are". In any case, I've never seen one, but there seem to be credible people who have... origin and purpose notwithstanding.

42 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:04:32pm

Next up a resolution in Congress to ban the possession, distribution, or intake of the dangerous chemical Dihydrogen monoxide. Rep. Dan Burton (R-Ind.) cites shocking revelations about this insidious and widespread chemical threat he found at the Dihydrogen Monoxide Research Division website.

43 HappyWarrior  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:04:42pm

re: #40 jamesfirecat

I think it'd be better to say "a portion of the left is anti-science" or "anti-vaxers on the left are anti-technology"

Because the amount of "anti-technology" sentiment coming from the left is not anywhere close to the amount of "anti-science" you see from the right.

Definitely. Look at the GOPers on the Science committee and look at the Democrats on the Science committee. It's night and day.

44 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:04:58pm

re: #39 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

A Google search turns up this article from the Consumer Reports people. I used to trust CR years and years ago, but (a) it's been a while since I've read them and (b) I was very young then. I don't know where they stand nowadays.

CR did their own tests and did show arsenic, but they also agree with the FDA: It's a form of arsenic that's naturally in all apples and it's one that no test has show is hazardous to kids. But of course, all you had to do is read "Consumer Reports confirms Dr. Oz tests," and instantly parents started demanding a recall.

45 HappyWarrior  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:05:27pm

re: #42 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Next up a resolution in Congress to ban the possession, distribution, or intake of the dangerous chemical Dihydrogen monoxide. Rep. Dan Burton (R-Ind.) cites shocking revelations about this insidious and widespread chemical threat he found at the Dihydrogen Monoxide Research Division website.

Haha I remember my chemistry teacher pulling the DHMO gag on us. It was clever since I fell for it.

46 Kragar  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:06:06pm

re: #38 Gus

There's no evidence of alien spacecraft other than a bunch of crappy images. Unidentified can mean anything. Until someone finds some real evidence there's no such thing as UFOs.

There are such things as UFO. It means Unidentified Flying Object, not aliens.

47 Gus  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:07:11pm

re: #46 Kragar

There are such things as UFO. It means Unidentified Flying Object, not aliens.

Yes. But everyone makes out their viscous fluid floaters or bugs in the camera lens to be spaceships. It's silly.

48 HappyWarrior  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:07:37pm

re: #46 Kragar

There are such things as UFO. It means Unidentified Flying Object, not aliens.

Yeah, technically many of us have seen UFOs when we can't identify what object we're seeing in the sky heh. So yeah I believe in UFOs. I also believe in IFOs.

49 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:08:12pm

re: #48 HappyWarrior

Yeah, technically many of us have seen UFOs when we can't identify what object we're seeing in the sky heh. So yeah I believe in UFOs. I also believe in IFOs.

Yes, but what of Underwater Flying Objects?

//

50 Kragar  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:08:54pm

re: #47 Gus

Yes. But everyone makes out their viscous fluid floaters or bugs in the camera lens to be spaceships. It's silly.

Agreed.

My UFO was obviously a transdimensional free roaming entity, not a spaceship.

51 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:09:39pm

re: #21 bluecheese

Oh, and another thing....

“UFOs are real” people are not any more crazy than the "Jesus is real" people.

I think I must be crazy too, cause I wonder if Jesus actually came here on a UFO. (Dey call em fiery chariots in the bible.)

The oldest know writing tells a tale of that. Their savior came from another planet.

52 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:10:07pm

re: #44 Targetpractice

CR did their own tests and did show arsenic, but they also agree with the FDA: It's a form of arsenic that's naturally in all apples and it's one that no test has show is hazardous to kids. But of course, all you had to do is read "Consumer Reports confirms Dr. Oz tests," and instantly parents started demanding a recall.

I don't think your capsule summary is quite accurate. From that article:

The Food and Drug Administration, trying to reassure consumers about the safety of apple juice, claimed that most arsenic in juices and other foods is of the organic type that is “essentially harmless.”

and from CR's test results:

Roughly 10 percent of our juice samples, from five brands, had total arsenic levels that exceeded federal drinking-water standards. Most of that arsenic was inorganic arsenic, a known carcinogen.

53 Political Atheist  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:10:39pm

re: #48 HappyWarrior

Heh. Someone in my in-laws neighborhood has a quad copter all lit up like a flying saucer. They fly that thing at night all over the area. Maybe we'll get to conspiracy nuts all over Obama Drones instead of little green men.

54 HappyWarrior  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:10:39pm

That bit about Kucinich makes me really glad that his district got combined with Kaptur's. And then Kaptur kicked Not Joe the Non-Plumber's ass at the polls. Win-win baby.

55 Gus  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:10:49pm

re: #50 Kragar

Agreed.

My UFO was obviously a transdimensional free roaming entity, not a spaceship.

I just saw an Unidentified Walking Object. I think it was Bigfoot. //

56 HappyWarrior  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:11:44pm

re: #53 Political Atheist

Heh. Someone in y inlaws neighborhood has a quad copter all lit up like a flying saucer. They fly that thing at night all over the area. Maybe we'll get to conspiracy nuts all over Obama Drones instead of little green men.

I'm sure we will. Conspiracy nuts are part of life's fabric.

57 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:11:48pm

re: #50 Kragar

Agreed.

My UFO was obviously a transdimensional free roaming entity, not a spaceship.

Was it a Class V full-roaming apparition?

//

58 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:12:17pm

I happened to watch a nifty History Channel doc on the Black Death this morning. It went into the implications and results, which were far-reaching to say the least, since the epidemic is estimated to have killed half the human population in 3 years time. It was unique among major catastrophes in causing an immense death toll but little or no property damage. Per capita wealth doubled overnight.
Perhaps antvaxxers are hoping for a repeat performance.

59 Gus  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:12:26pm
60 Jolo5309  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:12:30pm

re: #55 Gus

I just saw an Unidentified Walking Object. I think it was Bigfoot. //

Or your new neighbour...

61 HappyWarrior  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:12:49pm

Oh, no! Aliens, bio-duplication, nude conspiracies. .. Oh my God! Lyndon LaRouche was right!

62 Gus  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:13:31pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

Oh, no! Aliens, bio-duplication, nude conspiracies. .. Oh my God! Lyndon LaRouche was right!

I'll see if I can fit in David Icke and Jeff Rense.

63 researchok  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:13:57pm

It is a pity these lawmakers have sovereign immunity.

They ought to be sued for wrongful death or accessory to murder or whatever charges can be hung around around their sorry, stupid necks.

And I'd like to know if they hold back their children or grandchildren from the child vaccination spectrum.

Or if it is only other people's kids are put at risk.

64 HappyWarrior  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:14:07pm

re: #62 Gus

I'll see if I can fit in David Icke and Jeff Rense.

Haha, that's from a Simpsons episode. Icke's my favorite because of the Reptillan nonsense.

65 Gus  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:15:29pm

re: #64 HappyWarrior

Haha, that's from a Simpsons episode. Icke's my favorite because of the Reptillan nonsense.

Lizards and teh Juice! //

66 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:15:41pm

I can never read about the anti-vaxxers without thinking of this.

67 Gus  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:17:20pm
68 jaunte  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:17:40pm

Underwear-Free Operations

69 HappyWarrior  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:17:53pm

re: #65 Gus

Lizards and teh Juice! //

Or some times Lizard Juice when he's talking about the Rothchilds.

70 Gus  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:18:32pm

re: #69 HappyWarrior

Or some times Lizard Juice when he's talking about the Rothchilds.

Bilderbergs and the CFR! //

71 dragonfire1981  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:19:26pm

re: #66 Romantic Heretic

I can never read about the anti-vaxxers without thinking of this.

[Embedded content]

Heh, I love the end of that.

72 HappyWarrior  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:20:47pm

re: #70 Gus

Bilderbergs and the CFR! //

Bohemian Grove and the Illumanti. And the Federal Reserve with a dash of the Templars.

73 Gus  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:21:24pm

re: #72 HappyWarrior

Bohemian Grove and the Illumanti. And the Federal Reserve with a dash of the Templars.

Skull and Bones!!

74 Gus  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:23:32pm

[Link: twitter.com...]

75 dragonath  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:25:22pm

Nearly Half of Republicans Think Election was Stolen

A new Public Policy Polling survey shows finds that 49% of Republican voters nationally say they think that ACORN stole the election for President Obama, as compared to 52% that thought ACORN stole the 2008 election, "a modest decline, but perhaps smaller than might have been expected given that ACORN doesn't exist anymore."

76 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:25:43pm

Conspiraliars are setting the human race up for a catastrophe. From needless wars and needless insurrections to needless epidemics, they seem hell-bent on destroying as much as possible. The liars themselves are just amoral opportunists of course, but maybe the whole movement is evolution's way of eliminating the gullible and thoughtless.
We have a known counter-survival trait, the combination of gullibility and arrogance, with low intelligence leavening the mix. This creates an opportunity for a new force, the media-based conspira-liar, to arise and take advantage. This predatory force creates a catastrophe in the process of pressing its advantage. This is no different from a vulnerable population in the wild creating an opportunity for new predators. The result is either elimination of the counter-survival trait, or extinction. It is how evolution works. I am not cruel enough to want to see this, but it is not my decision. I think it will happen, and it is the direction in which many present-day trends point.

77 Kragar  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:26:20pm

There's a secret society of the five wealthiest people in the world, known as The Pentavirate, who run everything in the world, including the newspapers, and meet tri-annually at a secret country mansion in Colorado, known as The Meadows.

78 erik_t  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:27:24pm

re: #75 dragonath

Nearly Half of Republicans Think Election was Stolen

Epic quintuple facepalm.

Please feel free to rejoin the reality-based community sometime, y'all.

79 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:27:54pm

re: #77 Kragar

There's a secret society of the five wealthiest people in the world, known as The Pentavirate, who run everything in the world, including the newspapers, and meet tri-annually at a secret country mansion in Colorado, known as The Meadows.

What happened to the Illuminati? And Majestic-12?

80 Amory Blaine  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:28:05pm

Hostess CEO: No pay cut

Hostess CEO Gregory Rayburn does not see himself as a Hostess employee, and therefore is not taking a company-wide 8 percent pay cut that he introduced.

Rayburn last week described himself to The Post as outside help and said he was entitled to his $125,000 monthly salary.

He also said he would leave Hostess once he is no longer needed.

America’s largest baker hired the restructuring expert in May to lead the bankrupt business.

81 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:28:36pm

re: #77 Kragar

There's a secret society of the five wealthiest people in the world, known as The Pentavirate, who run everything in the world, including the newspapers, and meet tri-annually at a secret country mansion in Colorado, known as The Meadows.

Are they hiring? If so, where do I apply?

82 wrenchwench  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:28:43pm

re: #74 Gus

[Link: twitter.com...]

Sadly, I have my "trends" thingy set to "Colombia", where this is trending: [Link: twitter.com...]

83 Kragar  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:29:07pm

re: #80 Amory Blaine

Hostess CEO: No pay cut

Douchechill....

84 HappyWarrior  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:29:09pm

Order of the Brotherhood of the Whiskey. Oh crap, I outed my private one man secret society.

85 researchok  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:29:12pm

re: #59 Gus

Like Degrasse, Kucinich remains 'unabducted'.

Pity

87 HappyWarrior  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:30:44pm

re: #80 Amory Blaine

Hostess CEO: No pay cut

This guy is part of the problem with many in corporate America. He wants and expects everyone else to sacrifice but him. Motherfucker you make 125 K a month, you can afford to take a cut if your employees who make but a fraction of that are doing so.

88 Gus  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:32:09pm

re: #82 wrenchwench

Sadly, I have my "trends" thingy set to "Colombia", where this is trending: [Link: twitter.com...]

Who is Niall and Boris?

89 Ghost of Tom Joad  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:32:29pm

re: #87 HappyWarrior

This guy is part of the problem with many in corporate America. He wants and expects everyone else to sacrifice but him. Motherfucker you make 125 K a month, you can afford to take a cut if your employees who make but a fraction of that are doing so.

His yearly salary could gainfully employ ~50 people at a livable wage.

90 Targetpractice  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:33:05pm

re: #86 Gus

Fiscal Cliff | The Simpsons | Animation on FOX

[Embedded content]

Thank you, I needed that laugh today.

91 Lidane  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:34:10pm

Although he's talking about the 2012 Mayan End Times lunatics, I'm going to steal from Neil deGrasse Tyson here. Just change his mention of the end times idiocy to anti-vax:

These anti-vax assholes are irresponsible and ignorant and they're passing their idiocy on to others with dangerous consequences.

If you're anti-vax, fuck you. Simple as that.

92 wrenchwench  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:34:29pm

re: #88 Gus

Who is Niall and Boris?

Beats me!

93 Gus  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:37:17pm

re: #92 wrenchwench

Beats me!

Unidentified Twitter Trends (UTTs)

94 Ghost of Tom Joad  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:39:23pm

re: #93 Gus

Unidentified Twitter Trends (UTTs)

NTIs.

95 grout  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:39:29pm

Sadly, the Huffington Post is a hotbed of antivax bad crazy. So, sadly, the Tea Party wing is indeed not alone on this. Very, very sadly.

96 jhncsy  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:41:38pm

From the article:

They try to blame mercury in vaccines, but we know that mercury has nothing to do with autism; when thimerosal (a mercury compound) was removed from vaccines there was absolutely no change in the increase in autism rates.

Well, obviously, autism is caused by being poked with needles.//

97 Lidane  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:41:54pm

re: #88 Gus

Who is Niall and Boris?

I'm ashamed that I know this, but I've spent time on Tumblr. Niall is a member of the boy band One Direction. Boris is the dog of one of the other members. And yes, even the dog has a Twitter feed.

98 wrenchwench  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:43:00pm

re: #97 Lidane

I'm ashamed that I know this, but I've spent time on Tumblr. Niall is a member of the boy band One Direction. Boris is the dog of one of the other members. And yes, even the dog has a Twitter feed.

Why are they trending in Colombia? ( i don't expect you to know.)

99 Lidane  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:43:40pm

re: #98 wrenchwench

Why are they trending in Colombia? ( i don't expect you to know.)

No clue. Maybe they're doing concerts down there?

100 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:46:13pm

re: #80 Amory Blaine

Hostess CEO: No pay cut

Does not really matter since the only ones left are the office workers overseeing the liquidation.

[Link: hostessbrands.com...]

My local Walgreens went for a week with no bread when Hostess stopped production now they have Bimbo bread. Old bread $1.48 a loaf, new bread $2.29 a loaf, I haz a sad.

101 funky chicken  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 3:33:43pm

re: #3 Ian G.

Every time the GOPers talk about the dangers of mercury in vaccines or fluorescent light bulbs, someone should ask them their position on the EPA's rules to limit mercury emissions from coal-fired power plants. I would love to see the reactions.

Also, to the many pontificators out there who repeat the "both sides do it" mantra about why Washington is dysfunctional, I'd agree with you if Dennis Kucinich were the median Dem. That's what it would take for me to agree that that the Dems are as loony as the GOP.

LOL. and agreed.


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