#Breitbart.com’s Ben Shapiro Attacks Ashley Judd, Uses Nude Photo

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Film star Ashley Judd is reportedly considering running for the Senate in her native Kentucky, challenging Mitch McConnell.

If you imagine this will provoke howls of misogynist hatred and creepy sexual innuendo from the right wing, you’re right on the money, of course, and breitbart.com’s always sleazy Ben Shapiro is leading the caveman charge today: ACTRESS ASHLEY JUDD MULLS SENATE RUN.

There are probably thousands of photos of Ms Judd that Shapiro could have chosen to illustrate this, but he went right for the nude photo because objectification of women is what the right wing audience craves, and nobody’s more eager than Shapiro to please the drooling knuckle-draggers at breitbart.com.

The article? Well, you probably already know what it says; Shapiro writes these like Mad Libs — just fill in the blanks with the usual insults. Ashley Judd is an evil liberal progressive leftist commie who supports women’s rights. The horror. Cue 500 comments insulting her on every possible level.

It’s ironic in a very sick way that Shapiro attacks Judd for speaking out against sexism, in a blatantly sexist piece. These people are not right in the head.

Then there’s her militant feminism, which led her — an actress who has made her fame and fortune from her beauty — to rip into the media for questions about her puffy face, which she called “a misogynistic assault on all women.” She complained about “the assault on our body image, the hypersexualization of girls and women and subsequent degradation of our sexuality as we walk through the decades, and the general incessant objectification is what this conversation allegedly about my face is really about.” That’s a mouthful from a woman who posed completely nude for Norma Jean & Marilyn.

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1 makeitstop  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 5:31:15pm

Ben really has a problem with women.

2 Skip Intro  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 5:33:06pm

re: #1 makeitstop

Ben really has a problem with women.

He's destined to be the Rush Limbaugh of his generation.

3 Obdicut  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 5:34:29pm

Because a woman choosing to pose naked is the same thing as men hooting at women in the street.

If she's not wearing a burqa she should shut up about it all.

This is the creeping sharia. It's conservatism. Conservatism is creeping sharia. First they come for the Marilyn Monroe lookalikes...

4 gwangung  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 5:34:30pm

re: #2 Skip Intro

He's destined to be the Rush Limbaugh of his generation.

He's TRYING to be the Rush Limbaugh of his generation. With not an original thought or approach in his head.

5 engineer cat  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 5:37:02pm

according to the constitution, nobody is allowed to run for public office if they are naked underneath their clothes

6 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 5:37:41pm

Back when she was criticizing mountaintop removal in coal mining several coal-related interest groups did the same thing. Because toplessness means stupid slut.

7 Gus  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 5:37:43pm

Damn, what a loser.

8 Bubblehead II  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 5:37:51pm

re: #1 makeitstop

Ben really has a problem with women.

Most male "Christians" do.

Something to do with Females having a dominate role.

No sarc

9 wrenchwench  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 5:39:38pm

Inside Benny's head:

OMG! A beautiful woman says she's a feminist! That's supposed to be for ugly hairy women who can't get a man!!

10 EPR-radar  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 5:42:40pm

Stay classy, RW mouthpiece creep. I can't decide if this Shapiro twit is an oxygen thief, or simply a waste of space.

11 engineer cat  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 5:45:15pm

re: #10 EPR-radar

Stay classy, RW mouthpiece creep. I can't decide if this Shapiro twit is an oxygen thief, or simply a waste of space.

wingnuts are saboteurs from the enemies of the zombie universe sent to destroy our brains and suck up all of our oxygen

12 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 5:45:21pm

There is now a dangerously non-zero probability that we will be subjected to Mitch McConnell's tits in the foreseeable future.

13 Charles Johnson  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 5:45:39pm

These people are really not right in the head. They must be miserable somewhere deep inside, festering with desperate rage and hate. That much negativity is just poisonous.

14 darthstar  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 5:46:03pm

I'd rather see Ashley Judd nekkid than Mitch McConnell.

15 EPR-radar  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 5:46:43pm

re: #4 gwangung

He's TRYING to be the Rush Limbaugh of his generation. With not an original thought or approach in his head.

That shouldn't be much of a problem. If I were a Computer Science professor, I'd see if I could get a student to do a project where the Eliza natural language processing system is specialized to RW nut job talking points.

Two amusing possibilities:

1) It passes the Turning test (if the questioners are selected from US wing nuts).

2) It becomes the next big talk radio hit, and funds the CS department in perpetuity.

16 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 5:46:54pm

re: #14 darthstar

I'd rather see Ashley Judd nekkid than Mitch McConnell.

SOCIALIST!

17 darthstar  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 5:47:29pm

re: #12 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

There is now a dangerously non-zero probability that we will be subjected to Mitch McConnell's tits in the foreseeable future.

Would you settle for a sexy Jack Nicholson?

Image: nicholson.jpg

Oh, sorry...there's no such thing as a sexy Jack Nicholson.

18 kirkspencer  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 5:49:06pm

re: #17 darthstar

Would you settle for a sexy Jack Nicholson?

Image: nicholson.jpg

Oh, sorry...there's no such thing as a sexy Jack Nicholson.

You evil, evil man. I bow and acknowledge the master (for now).

19 darthstar  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 5:51:44pm

re: #18 kirkspencer

You evil, evil man. I bow and acknowledge the master (for now).

I will say this about Jack...the man knows how to hold a sandwich.

20 abolitionist  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 5:54:44pm

I enjoyed Ashley Judd in the recent action/drama series Missing. Had it not been cancelled, she likely would not be running for office right now. I wish her well.

21 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 5:54:52pm

re: #19 darthstar

I will say this about Jack...the man knows how to hold a sandwich.

That assumes he can actually get his order delivered. You'd be surprised what hurdles a guy has to overcome just to get some friggin' toast.

22 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:00:38pm

Are these people sure that is a photo of Ms Judd or has it been photo shopped?

23 engineer cat  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:01:34pm

re: #2 Skip Intro

He's destined to be the Rush Limbaugh of his generation.

that reminds me of the old joke about the life cycle of a hollywood star:

1. who is Rock Gritz?
2. Get Me Rock Gritz!!!
3. get me a young Rock Gritz
4. who is Rock Gritz?

24 Charles Johnson  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:01:55pm

re: #22 PhillyPretzel

Are these people sure that is a photo of Ms Judd or has it been photo shopped?

This looks shopped. I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time.

25 darthstar  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:03:19pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

This looks shopped. I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time.

I can tell from the heat signals in my lap that it isn't shopped...wait...what?

26 Charles Johnson  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:03:46pm

(Note to Internet meme-challenged readers: Google my previous comment if you're tempted to think it was serious.)

27 dragonath  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:03:52pm

What school did he graduate from? The Ross Douthat College of Feigned Outrage?

28 Charles Johnson  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:04:58pm

Because at Little Green Footballs, we are aware of all Internet traditions.

29 Ian G.  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:05:54pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

These people are really not right in the head. They must be miserable somewhere deep inside, festering with desperate rage and hate. That much negativity is just poisonous.

I feel like it always traces itself back to rejection by the cute girls in high school or something. You'd think they'd eventually let it go and get on with their lives.

30 Political Atheist  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:08:22pm

re: #3 Obdicut

Because a woman choosing to pose naked is the same thing as men hooting at women in the street.

If she's not wearing a burqa she should shut up about it all.

This is the creeping sharia. It's conservatism. Conservatism is creeping sharia. First they come for the Marilyn Monroe lookalikes...

The Stepford Wife Sharia look.

31 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:11:07pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

This looks shopped. I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time.

I think it's real, a still from Norma Jean and Marilyn. Judd played Norma Jean Dougherty and Mira Sorvino her glamorous alter-ego, Marilyn Monroe.

32 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:13:10pm

re: #22 PhillyPretzel

Are these people sure that is a photo of Ms Judd or has it been photo shopped?

Ummm, looks kind of like Mira Sorvino.

33 Charles Johnson  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:14:22pm

re: #31 Shiplord Kirel

Gotcha!

[Link: www.google.com...]

34 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:14:47pm
35 freetoken  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:16:05pm

re: #34 Holidays are Family Fun Time

The atavists really are scared of successful women, all the more so if they are attractive and "librul".

36 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:16:37pm

re: #32 Shiplord Kirel

I suggested it may be "shopped" because of what that "person" is suggesting. I really have no idea and I would not put it past that "person" to do something like that to make his so called point.

37 Charles Johnson  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:19:48pm

re: #35 freetoken

The atavists really are scared of successful women, all the more so if they are attractive and "librul".

Women like Ashley Judd bring out the worst in the right wing. If she does run for Senator, it will get incredibly nasty. I'm sure that's a factor in her considerations.

38 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:19:50pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

Gotcha!

[Link: www.google.com...]

Well, what can I say? I know more about beautiful women than I do about internet memes.

39 jaunte  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:20:12pm

re: #12 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

There is now a dangerously non-zero probability that we will be subjected to Mitch McConnell's tits in the foreseeable future.

Adding that to my big list of drawings I don't want to do.

40 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:23:12pm

For the sake of context, the image in question was taken from the HBO movie Norma Jean and Marilyn, wherein Ashley Judd played Norma Jean Daugherty and Mira Sorvino played Marilyn Monroe post plastic surgery (Judd still appeared after the surgery point in the movie, as an "inner voice" if you will). So this was just something Judd did once for a role that really did require it. So to mock her for a movie performance she did well in is not only misogynistic, it's also tacky and lame.

41 Skip Intro  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:25:08pm

re: #34 Holidays are Family Fun Time

She graduated from the UK Honors Program and was nominated to Phi Beta Kappa,

.

"What a snob!" - Rick Santorum

42 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:26:20pm

In all honesty, the pictures from that sequence in Norma Jean and Marilyn really are beautiful. The female nude is a tradition in art, and for a very good reason. It is nature, something we are evolved to respond to, and which evolved to get a response. Only a repressed freak like Shapiro would consider them exploitative and shameful. Who knows, they may actually help Judd's chances.

43 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:28:24pm

Shit going on in Syria.

I don't know what to think.

44 freetoken  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:29:04pm

re: #42 Shiplord Kirel

I'm reminded once again of Jonah Goldberg's condemnation of Leonard Nimoy as a "pornographer".

45 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:29:48pm

re: #43 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Uh-oh.

What happened. Chemical Weapon attack?

46 jamesfirecat  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:30:25pm

re: #44 freetoken

I'm reminded once again of Jonah Goldberg's condemnation of Leonard Nimoy as a "pornographer".

I believe I have Mr. Nimoy's response to that comment...

47 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:30:35pm

re: #42 Shiplord Kirel

In all honesty, the pictures from that sequence in Norma Jean and Marilyn really are beautiful. The female nude is a tradition in art, and for a very good reason. It is nature, something we are evolved to respond to, and which evolved to get a response. Only a repressed freak like Shapiro would consider them exploitative and shameful. Who knows, they may actually help Judd's chances.

I don't think Shapiro is repressed so much as he simply hates anyone who left-liberal and will attack them in anyway he can. He enjoys feeling self-righteous and running down the opposition. He's a perfect fit for Breitbart.com.

48 Stanghazi  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:31:08pm

Oh my...Mitch McConnell is 2 years YOUNGER than my Dad. He seems like he's in his 80's.

Kentucky....

49 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:32:57pm

re: #43 Holidays are Family Fun Time

I'm going to say that Assad is going to end up doing something that requires a response before New Years.

50 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:36:03pm

re: #49 ProGunLiberal

I'm going to say that Assad is going to end up doing something that requires a response before New Years.

I don't think we'll do anything. The US is too wrapped up in domestic concerns, the risk still exists that we'd just end up ushering in Sunni Islamists and nobody wants to send ground troops into an Arab country.

51 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:36:05pm

re: #45 ProGunLiberal

Uh-oh.

What happened. Chemical Weapon attack?

speculation upon speculation.

Another thing I'm tired of.

Hard to tell if the threat is serious or blown out of proportion for political gain.

52 jaunte  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:36:25pm

re: #48 Stanghazi

53 jamesfirecat  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:37:53pm

re: #52 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Don't forget that most men with nothing would rather protect the possibility of becoming rich than face the reality of being poor.
-1776

54 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:38:11pm

Syria loads chemical weapons into bombs; military awaits Assad's order

The Syrian military is prepared to use chemical weapons against its own people and is awaiting final orders from President Bashar Assad, U.S. officials told NBC News on Wednesday.
The military has loaded the precursor chemicals for sarin, a deadly nerve gas, into aerial bombs that could be dropped onto the Syrian people from dozens of fighter-bombers, the officials said.
As recently as Tuesday, officials had said there was as yet no evidence that the process of mixing the "precursor" chemicals had begun. But Wednesday, they said their worst fears had been confirmed: The nerve agents were locked and loaded inside the bombs.
Sarin is an extraordinarily lethal agent. Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's forces killed 5,000 Kurds with a single sarin attack on Halabja in 1988.

U.S. officials stressed that as of now, the sarin bombs hadn't been loaded onto planes and that Assad hadn't issued a final order to use them. But if he does, one of the officials said, "there's little the outside world can do to stop it."

55 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:38:26pm

re: #53 jamesfirecat

Don't forget that most men with nothing would rather protect the possibility of becoming rich than face the reality of being poor.
-1776

yep--well said.

56 alpuz  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:38:38pm

re: #40 Dark_Falcon

For the sake of context, the image in question was taken from the HBO movie Norma Jean and Marilyn, wherein Ashley Judd played Norma Jean Daugherty and Mira Sorvino played Marilyn Monroe post plastic surgery (Judd still appeared after the surgery point in the movie, as an "inner voice" if you will). So this was just something Judd did once for a role that really did require it. So to mock her for a movie performance she did well in is not only misogynistic, it's also tacky and lame.

Like Ben. Dude aint right.

57 jaunte  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:39:52pm

re: #53 jamesfirecat

'When I hit the lottery imma want low taxes.'

58 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:42:05pm

re: #53 jamesfirecat

Don't forget that most men with nothing would rather protect the possibility of becoming rich than face the reality of being poor.
-1776

But that's truly a bad thing, is it? America's greatness was built in large part by men seeking wealth.

59 engineer cat  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:42:06pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

Because at Little Green Footballs, we are aware of all Internet traditions.

like the denizens of Sadly, No

60 Gus  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:42:59pm

re: #54 Shiplord Kirel

Syria loads chemical weapons into bombs; military awaits Assad's order

He does realize that the USS Eisenhower battle group is right at his front door right?

61 jamesfirecat  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:43:31pm

re: #58 Dark_Falcon

But that's truly a bad thing, is it? America's greatness was built in large part by men seeking wealth.

It's a bad thing when people blind themselves to the reality that they are not self sufficient and instead vote in favor of cutting the very thing that they and others depend on and thus show support for further coldening the hearts of those at the top.

Anyone can strike it rich in America, but there is nothing patriotic about self delusion.

62 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:44:22pm

The idea that a women isn't vying for the

Virgin Mary Award of Life

drives some people crazy.

Posing nude FOR A MOVIE ROLE, really, this is a big deal.

Posing nude doesn't bother me. Unless the person posing is somehow being exploited, not being paid, whatever. . . .but then, they would be the victim-no?

geez, for a paying legitimate job --for which she paid income taxes --really???

It's the fear of the power of women -using their bodies to take advantage of poor, horny men who have no self-control . . .they need laws and social norms to protect them from those women.

*spit*

63 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:45:00pm

re: #60 Gus

He does realize that the USS Eisenhower battle group is right at his front door right?

Yes, but his back is to the wall. He figures he can no longer win the war conventionally and he decided that whatever we do to him can't possibly be worse than what will happen if the rebels win.

64 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:45:24pm

I'm still googling for a Sonny Bono nude

//

65 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:46:12pm

re: #64 Eventual Carrion

I'm still googling for a Sonny Bono nude

//

mind bleach warning!!!!!

66 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:46:15pm

The GOP is saved, Bryan Fischer has a brilliant new plan for them to recapture the electorate.

So simple and deceptively cunning, Bryan is a genius!

///

67 EPR-radar  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:46:53pm

re: #61 jamesfirecat

It's a bad thing when people blind themselves to the reality that they are not self sufficient and instead vote in favor of cutting the very thing that they and others depend on and thus show support for further coldening the hearts of those at the top.

Anyone can strike it rich in America, but there is nothing patriotic about self delusion.

Horatio Alger updated for the 21st century:

Combine talent, hard work, luck and ruthlessness, and someone not born to untold wealth may attain it.

The probability of this blessed event, as well as the degree of luck and ruthlessness typically required, are not topics suitable for polite conversation...

68 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:47:49pm

re: #58 Dark_Falcon

But that's truly a bad thing, is it? America's greatness was built in large part by men seeking wealth.

seeking wealth is fine, thinking it makes you better than your fellow human is another thing. Many use this line of thought to justify treating others as sub-human.

69 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:48:42pm

re: #66 watching you tiny alien kittens are

The GOP is saved, Bryan Fischer has a brilliant new plan for them to recapture the electorate.

[Embedded content]

So simple and deceptively cunning, Bryan is a genius!

///

Just think how many athiests will be created in the attempt to convert 16% more to Christianity.

70 TedStriker  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:49:11pm

re: #66 watching you tiny alien kittens are

The GOP is saved, Bryan Fischer has a brilliant new plan for them to recapture the electorate.

[Embedded content]

So simple and deceptively cunning, Bryan is a genius!

///

Oh, Bryan, you cunning linguist!

///

71 Lidane  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:49:17pm

And the GOP and right wing wonder why they have problems with women.

Gee, can't imagine why.

72 EPR-radar  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:50:17pm

re: #61 jamesfirecat

It's a bad thing when people blind themselves to the reality that they are not self sufficient and instead vote in favor of cutting the very thing that they and others depend on and thus show support for further coldening the hearts of those at the top.

Anyone can strike it rich in America, but there is nothing patriotic about self delusion.

By the way, it is extremely clear that in the US, CEOs have gone mad with greed compared to everywhere else in the world. The stats were posted in a recent comment (last night, I think). We have a real problem in the country, where greed has been transformed from a vice to a virtue.

73 jamesfirecat  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:50:33pm

re: #58 Dark_Falcon

But that's truly a bad thing, is it? America's greatness was built in large part by men seeking wealth.

This really struck in my craw so let me go one step further.

Dark this quote is not about people like Henry Ford who managed to come from effectively nowhere to become rich.

This quote is about people who are lower class and are going to stay lower class for their entire lives barring some freak event like winning the lottery, people like that who demand the government cut back on taxes for the rich and reducing how much the government spends on supporting the poor, people who are not willing to admit that they themselves are poor but instead want to grease the wheels to make it easier for the rich to gain even more power just because they want to imagine they are rich themselves.

It all goes back to stuff like this....

[Link: pollposition.com...]


Where 13 percent of people say they are in the top 1%

They are not willing to face the reality of their own fiscal situation.

74 bratwurst  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:50:49pm
75 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:50:53pm
76 EPR-radar  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:51:02pm

re: #69 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Just think how many athiests will be created in the attempt to convert 16% more to Christianity.

Especially Bryan Fischer's warm and friendly version thereof.

77 Lidane  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:51:10pm

re: #40 Dark_Falcon

So to mock her for a movie performance she did well in is not only misogynistic, it's also tacky and lame.

Nah. It's just par for the course for the modern right wing.

78 kirkspencer  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:51:51pm

re: #66 watching you tiny alien kittens are

The GOP is saved, Bryan Fischer has a brilliant new plan for them to recapture the electorate.

[Embedded content]

So simple and deceptively cunning, Bryan is a genius!

///

And in that we see a major problem they have. The only Christians in their eyes are evangelicals. It's why they can believe they are a minority in the nation, and scoff at the fact that Christianity is the most populous religion in the world.

Never mind Luke 9:49-50 / Mark 9:38-40.

79 engineer cat  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:52:01pm

re: #63 Dark_Falcon

Yes, but his back is to the wall. He figures he can no longer win the war conventionally and he decided that whatever we do to him can't possibly be worse than what will happen if the rebels win.

After he fled to Portugal, Batista lived in Madeira, then later in Estoril, outside Lisbon, where he wrote books the rest of his life. He was the Chairman of a Spanish life insurance company that invested in property and mortgages on the Andalusian Costa del Sol.
...
On his exile from Egypt, Farouk settled first in Monaco, and later in Rome, Italy. He died in the Ile de France restaurant in Rome, Italy on 18 March 1965

take a hint, bashir, and git while the goin is good

80 TedStriker  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:52:41pm

re: #62 Holidays are Family Fun Time

The idea that a women isn't vying for the

drives some people crazy.

Posing nude FOR A MOVIE ROLE, really, this is a big deal.

Posing nude doesn't bother me. Unless the person posing is somehow being exploited, not being paid, whatever. . . .but then, they would be the victim-no?

geez, for a paying legitimate job --for which she paid income taxes --really???

It's the fear of the power of women -using their bodies to take advantage of poor, horny men who have no self-control . . .they need laws and social norms to protect them from those women.

*spit*

Sounds suspiciously like what happens to women in hardline Islamic countries...by people like the Saudis, the Iranian mullahs, and the Taliban.

Coincidence? I think not...

/fuck the American Taliban

81 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:52:48pm

re: #79 engineer cat

After he fled to Portugal, Batista lived in Madeira, then later in Estoril, outside Lisbon, where he wrote books the rest of his life. He was the Chairman of a Spanish life insurance company that invested in property and mortgages on the Andalusian Costa del Sol.
...
On his exile from Egypt, Farouk settled first in Monaco, and later in Rome, Italy. He died in the Ile de France restaurant in Rome, Italy on 18 March 1965

take a hint, bashir, and git while the goin is good

Like Saddam should have done.

82 Stanghazi  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:53:01pm

Apparently McAfee has been caught.

83 engineer cat  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:53:38pm

Bryan Fischer @BryanJFischer

Barna: evangelical voters went for the "conservative" in '12 81%-17%. Key to winning in '16: convert more people to Christ.

b-but what if they become - gasp! - episcopalians???

84 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:53:47pm

re: #80 TedStriker

Sounds suspiciously like what happens to women in hardline Islamic countries...by people like the Sauds, the Iranian mullahs, and the Taliban.

Coincidence? I think not...

/fuck the American Taliban

exactly. It's a terribly patriarchal point-of-view. Men's tingling sensations are soooooo important that the rest of the world has to revolve around them.

85 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:54:01pm

re: #83 engineer cat

Bryan Fischer @BryanJFischer

Barna: evangelical voters went for the "conservative" in '12 81%-17%. Key to winning in '16: convert more people to Christ.

b-but what if they become - gasp! - episcopalians???

Or Roman Catholic?

86 jaunte  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:57:46pm

re: #62 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Ashley Judd frightens men like Ben Shapiro because he knows deep down, that if she pretended in the slightest to be interested in 'conservative' ideas he would be gushing over her like a schoolboy, as most socons do over what we have seen described as "gorgeous conservative women."
He's angry at her for inserting her own reality into his fantasy.

87 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:58:30pm

re: #84 Holidays are Family Fun Time

exactly. It's a terribly patriarchal point-of-view. Men's tingling sensations are soooooo important that the rest of the world has to revolve around them.

Actually, it's an adolescent POV. Case in point. Young friend (girl) of mine was recently told that she was no longer wanted as a friend by a young man. She was really upset and I told her that he was upset because she never "came-on" to him. WHAT? Yes, at 19, the dweeb couldn't make a pass for her, so he wanted her to take the lead. When she didn't, he got mad and justified it by saying many cruel things to her. Having met the young man, I was rather secure in my position.

She didn't believe me until he sent her a text saying he didn't even want to sleep with her anymore (THE HORROR), she disgusted him so much. Yes, being an old women has some good points.

I tend to think there are a lot of grown men who are still in this emotional state and look for others with World Views that reinforce this --weird religions being at the top of the list.

88 EPR-radar  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:59:49pm

re: #73 jamesfirecat

This really struck in my craw so let me go one step further.

Dark this quote is not about people like Henry Ford who managed to come from effectively nowhere to become rich.

This quote is about people who are lower class and are going to stay lower class for their entire lives barring some freak event like winning the lottery, people like that who demand the government cut back on taxes for the rich and reducing how much the government spends on supporting the poor, people who are not willing to admit that they themselves are poor but instead want to grease the wheels to make it easier for the rich to gain even more power just because they want to imagine they are rich themselves.

It all goes back to stuff like this....

[Link: pollposition.com...]

Where 13 percent of people say they are in the top 1%

They are not willing to face the reality of their own fiscal situation.

This isn't just limited to people with below-median income or wealth. You have to be very far up the financial food chain indeed before you can be self sufficient for income and medical expenses in old age (i.e., assuming no SS or Medicare). Without Social Security and Medicare, damn near 100% of senior citizens are looking at abject poverty at some point, plus dying early for lack of ability to pay for medical care.

On a slightly different note, I still remember with wonderment a conversation I had with a libertarian while we were both still in grad school. He wasn't worried about health care expenses, since once one has $10,000,000 or so in the bank, health care is basically pocket change.

89 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:01:15pm

re: #81 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Like Saddam should have done.

Saddam really was different. There really wasn't anywhere likely to take him, and even if there was he feared (no without reason) that he'd soon have been the victim of a CIA-designed "accident".

90 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:01:16pm

re: #88 EPR-radar

This isn't just limited to people with below-median income or wealth. You have to be very far up the financial food chain indeed before you can be self sufficient for income and medical expenses in old age (i.e., assuming no SS or Medicare). Without Social Security and Medicare, damn near 100% of senior citizens are looking at abject poverty at some point, plus dying early for lack of ability to pay for medical care.

On a slightly different note, I still remember with wonderment a conversation I had with a libertarian while we were both still in grad school. He wasn't worried about health care expenses, since once one has $10,000,000 or so in the bank, health care is basically pocket change.

Well, watch the market take a dive and that might change. Then, of course, it will be the fault of all those government regulations . . . .

92 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:02:01pm

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

Saddam really was different. There really wasn't anywhere likely to take him, and even if there was he feared (no without reason) that he'd soon have been the victim of a CIA-designed "accident".

Kadaffi?

93 Ian G.  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:04:01pm

re: #66 watching you tiny alien kittens are

There are more "nones" (atheists/agnostics/other/"spiritual-not-religious") under 50 than there are white evangelicals (let's face it, those are the ones Fischer wants more of). Good luck with that, Bryan.

94 EPR-radar  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:04:18pm

re: #90 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Well, watch the market take a dive and that might change. Then, of course, it will be the fault of all those government regulations . . . .

What was most amazing was how this fortune was to be amassed in the first place. As far as I could tell the plan was something like:

1) Will to power
2)...
3) Profit

It wasn't like he had an easy path to 10 million (i.e., he wasn't starting with millions).

95 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:05:25pm

if Ashley Judd were a Fox News Contributor, her nude poses would be a point of pride, like Sarah Palin's beauty pagent swimsuit pictures.

She would be smart and beautiful--every man's dream wife --a Bond girl.

But, since she doesn't play that game, she is a (what did Rush Limbaugh say?)

96 Varek Raith  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:06:14pm

Tech mogul John McAfee arrested after fleeing Belize and accused of being in Guatemala illegally, interior ministry says.
-CNN

97 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:06:19pm

Freepers weigh in on the Syria chemical weapons story.

The consensus seems to be that Obama is manufacturing this story as a pretext for intervening on the side of the Muslim Brotherhood. One freeper called it a "false flag" operation, and others agreed. I hope these people don't really know what that term means, since it would imply that Obama would attack Syrian civilians with outlawed weapons and try to blame it on Assad. It's possible they are perfectly clear on the meaning though.

98 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:07:04pm

re: #91 jaunte

Iraq Blocks Syria’s Request to Fetch Combat Helicopters from Russia

Iraq is willing to not inspect cargo planes that "might" be carrying weapons from Iran, but openly allowing an arms shipment like that is a different matter.

99 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:07:41pm

re: #94 EPR-radar

What was most amazing was how this fortune was to be amassed in the first place. As far as I could tell the plan was something like:

1) Will to power
2)...
3) Profit

It wasn't like he had an easy path to 10 million (i.e., he wasn't starting with millions).

Which I don't understand. The wealthy, of all people, should understand the concept of Risk Management i.e. insurance.

100 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:07:44pm

re: #88 EPR-radar

I have a history teacher friend who went from Sweet Social Conservative to Smug, cocky Libertarian. Going as far to call my politics obsolete and backwards. Yet, when I point to history to point that Libertarianism doesn't hold water, she yells at me to stop talking politics. Granted both of us have been like vipers to one another on this in the past 3 months. She is backed up by her theory that the market can fix all, while I literally feel I have the force of god on my side in wanting to protect the poor, the helpless, the needy, and those in distress. Which then goes into punishing those who I feel have violated human rights.

To be honest, me and her probably are equal on history, though she specializes in American and British, while I am quite a bit broader. But she doesn't think critically about History and it lessons. To be modest, I am able to. I could probably be a better history teacher.

Punchline? Her health is poor as a result of a stroke at 18, 4 years ago.

101 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:09:11pm

re: #92 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Kadaffi?

As much as I opposed normalizing international relations with Q'Daffy it did tie his hands when it came to putting down a domestic rebellion. He had just opened up to foreign investments/relations which meant he couldn't use the required brutality to suppress his own people without risking international backlash. Saddam was already an international pariah and was free to be as brutal as he desired. Same with Assad and Iran. They can do whatever they need to save themselves when on the ropes because there's nothing to lose.

102 EPR-radar  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:10:09pm

re: #99 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Which I don't understand. The wealthy, of all people, should understand the concept of Risk Management i.e. insurance.

Actually, the wealthy typically self insure for most things, since they can afford the loss if it happens.

Insurance is a racket designed to make a profit out of situations where people can't afford the loss (e.g., homeowner's insurance, auto liability, etc.)

103 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:10:19pm

re: #100 ProGunLiberal

I have a history teacher friend who went from Sweet Social Conservative to Smug, cocky Libertarian. Going as far to call my politics obsolete and backwards. Yet, when I point to history to point that Libertarianism doesn't hold water, she yells at me to stop talking politics. Granted both of us have been like vipers to one another on this in the past 3 months. She is backed up by her theory that the market can fix all, while I literally feel I have the force of god on my side in wanting to protect the poor, the helpless, the needy, and those in distress. Which then goes into punishing those who I feel have violated human rights.

To be honest, me and her probably are equal on history, though she specializes in American and British, while I am quite a bit broader. But she doesn't think critically about History and it lessons. To be modest, I am able to. I could probably be a better history teacher.

Punchline? Her health is poor as a result of a stroke at 18, 4 years ago.

Well, if she had a stroke that early she may think that things like Medicare don't apply to her, since she likely won't live to see 65. Sorry to be so negative, but when someone has a stroke that young the odds are not in their favor.

104 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:10:38pm

re: #97 Shiplord Kirel

Freepers weigh in on the Syria chemical weapons story.

The consensus seems to be that Obama is manufacturing this story as a pretext for intervening on the side of the Muslim Brotherhood. One freeper called it a "false flag" operation, and others agreed. I hope these people don't really know what that term means, since it would imply that Obama would attack Syrian civilians with outlawed weapons and try to blame it on Assad. It's possible they are perfectly clear on the meaning though.

I'm sure Mondowiess and Glenn Greenwald will arrive at similar conclusions. Discussion at Dkos was mixed last I checked.

105 Gus  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:10:54pm

re: #63 Dark_Falcon

Yes, but his back is to the wall. He figures he can no longer win the war conventionally and he decided that whatever we do to him can't possibly be worse than what will happen if the rebels win.

If he does he's gonna get whacked.

106 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:11:18pm

re: #101 Killgore Trout

As much as I opposed normalizing international relations with Q'Daffy it did tie his hands when it came to putting down a domestic rebellion. He had just opened up to foreign investments/relations which meant he couldn't use the required brutality to suppress his own people without risking international backlash. Saddam was already an international pariah and was free to be as brutal as he desired. Same with Assad and Iran. They can do whatever they need to save themselves when on the ropes because there's nothing to lose.

It should be obvious to Assad that the International Community--including most of the ME --is not cool with killing your own people.

It seems to be a line in the sand. After KQman, it should be in the front of his mind.

107 jaunte  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:11:20pm

Watch the votes of your state's 'troop-supporters' on this one.

108 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:12:13pm

re: #107 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Watch the votes of your state's 'troop-supporters' on this one.

Actually, I thought this passed and is now law.
nO?

109 EPR-radar  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:13:11pm

re: #100 ProGunLiberal

I have a history teacher friend who went from Sweet Social Conservative to Smug, cocky Libertarian. Going as far to call my politics obsolete and backwards. Yet, when I point to history to point that Libertarianism doesn't hold water, she yells at me to stop talking politics. Granted both of us have been like vipers to one another on this in the past 3 months. She is backed up by her theory that the market can fix all, while I literally feel I have the force of god on my side in wanting to protect the poor, the helpless, the needy, and those in distress. Which then goes into punishing those who I feel have violated human rights.

To be honest, me and her probably are equal on history, though she specializes in American and British, while I am quite a bit broader. But she doesn't think critically about History and it lessons. To be modest, I am able to. I could probably be a better history teacher.

Punchline? Her health is poor as a result of a stroke at 18, 4 years ago.

Shame about the health issues --- 18 is way too young for a stroke. You are correct that history is all it takes to disprove Libertarianism. The guilded age in the US suffices.

More recently, the CA energy deregulation disaster is enough to make me wonder why there are any libertarians left in this state. I lived through that. We had rolling blackouts in this state because some sleazy energy company traders wanted to rip people off.

110 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:13:18pm

re: #103 Dark_Falcon

If my theory is correct, I will likely be slightly shorter on the age compared to my peers.

I have heard Autism is an auto-immune disease. That might have implications down the road, and the theory seems plausible to me, considering there a number of odd relationships between Autism and other diseases, most notably Rheumatoid Arthritis.

Another friend of mine got Diabetes at 16. From an auto-immune reaction. Her pancreas is more or less dead.

111 jamesfirecat  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:15:10pm

re: #103 Dark_Falcon

Well, if she had a stroke that early she may think that things like Medicare don't apply to her, since she likely won't live to see 65. Sorry to be so negative, but when someone has a stroke that young the odds are not in their favor.

Yeah this....

I really REALLY REALLY hate to see this argument or have anyone tell me it holds water.

"I don't need to worry about the future, I'll be dead then!"


I would not go off on it so badly but Dark I've seen you make this exact same argument as well.

Is it flat out impossible for certain people to care about the universe/country beyond your own lives?

112 Petero1818  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:15:44pm

re: #34 Holidays are Family Fun Time

She graduated from the UK Honors Program and was nominated to Phi Beta Kappa,

Not just another pretty face . . .

Ashley Judd (Kennedy School) 2010
After establishing a strong career as an actor, Ashley Judd chose to go back to school to get a Mid-Career Masters in Public Administration from the Harvard Kennedy School.

113 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:16:20pm

I think Assad is being fucked by his friends. Iran And Russia have been propping him up and supplying military equipment. I think Iran would love to see if Assad's air defenses can manage to down a plane or two to judge how well Iranian air defenses would perform under similar circumstances. The US, NATO and Iran all have an interest in seeing air strikes against Assad. I think he fucked.

114 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:16:57pm

re: #95 Holidays are Family Fun Time

if Ashley Judd were a Fox News Contributor, her nude poses would be a point of pride, like Sarah Palin's beauty pagent swimsuit pictures.

She would be smart and beautiful--every man's dream wife --a Bond girl.

But, since she doesn't play that game, she is a (what did Rush Limbaugh say?)

Ashley is a great actress and a wonderful person.
I saw her at the track in Indy one afternoon. In person she is stunning. Just beautiful, It just doesn't come across the screen.. More as a real person.
She is hot hot hot..

115 jaunte  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:17:37pm

re: #108 Holidays are Family Fun Time

I can't find the current status.

116 bratwurst  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:18:14pm

Could right wing women REALLY be as misogynistic as right wing men?

Dana Perino wants female victims of violence to "make better decisions"

117 Stanghazi  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:19:25pm

re: #114 A Man for all Seasons

Ashley is a great actress and a wonderful person.
I saw her at the track in Indy one afternoon. In person she is stunning. Just beautiful, It just doesn't come across the screen.. More as a real person.
She is hot hot hot..

Her husband isn't bad either...

118 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:19:40pm

re: #105 Gus

If he does he's gonna get whacked.

If he's looking at death anyways, then he may no care. Assad's feeling he's got nothing to lose, and the Hell of it is that he's right, at least where NATO is concerned. Whatever we do can't be worse than what will happen if he is captured by the rebels.

If you want in sight into Assad's mind right now:

119 Destro  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:20:01pm

But it's OK for male Republicans who posed naked to run for senate though......

120 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:21:29pm

re: #118 Dark_Falcon

You're probably pretty accurate on the mental state thing.

121 EPR-radar  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:21:40pm

re: #103 Dark_Falcon

Well, if she had a stroke that early she may think that things like Medicare don't apply to her, since she likely won't live to see 65. Sorry to be so negative, but when someone has a stroke that young the odds are not in their favor.

Medicare is a red herring here. SS disability would likely be more relevant, as would other parts of the safety net.

To put it in crude RW terms, a person who has a stroke at 18 is likely to consume more in public resources than they pay in taxes. Silly for such a person to be a libertarian. Present day GOP party line would appear to condemn such people to an early death. e.g. "Let him die"

My preference is to have an adequate safety net in place.

122 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:21:42pm

re: #117 Stanghazi

Her husband isn't bad either...

He is great! Someday may be the greatest Scottish race driver of all time.
They so love each other..Great love story.

123 Varek Raith  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:21:56pm

re: #111 jamesfirecat

Yeah this....

I really REALLY REALLY hate to see this argument or have anyone tell me it holds water.

"I don't need to worry about the future, I'll be dead then!"

I would not go off on it so badly but Dark I've seen you make this exact same argument as well.

Is it flat out impossible for certain people to care about the universe/country beyond your own lives?

AGW?
Who cares!
I won't be affected by it!
-GOP

124 jaunte  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:22:18pm

re: #108 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Ah, here it is. Passed the Senate, but has to be reconciled with the House bill:

"We don't really understand why anybody would oppose [Shaheen's bill]," says Sharon Levin, the director of federal reproductive health policy at the National Women's Law Center. "The only reason it wouldn't go through is if the Republican leadership in the House tried to block it."

That appears likely. A GOP staffer "familiar with defense issues" told Army Times last week that the Shaheen amendment "stands little chance of surviving" when the House and Senate meet to work out their differences on the defense bill. "Historically, social provisions that are not reflected in both bills heading into conference don't survive," the staffer said—conceding that the House version of the defense bill will not include anything like Shaheen's proposal.
[Link: www.motherjones.com...]

125 Destro  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:23:25pm

re: #118 Dark_Falcon

Way off topic about Assad but I am pretty sure Assad is being stubborn because his people, the Alawites don't want to live under Saudi Arabian, Muslim Brotherhood backed Sunni fundamentalists. If Assad dies tonight the Alawites would still carry on the Ba'athist state (as would sizable Sunni secularists and Christian Syrians).

But, you know, in American eyes all problems can be solved by killing the dictator and thus ending the problem...simple narratives for simple people.

126 Lidane  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:23:41pm

re: #116 bratwurst

Dana Perino wants female victims of violence to "make better decisions"

The best decision those victims could make: ignoring Dana Perino.

127 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:24:05pm

re: #119 Destro

But it's OK for male Republicans who posed naked to run for senate though......

Concerns about the naked body are almost always about the female body. Why that is so is complicated enough to fill 20 printed pages.

128 TedStriker  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:24:49pm

re: #117 Stanghazi

Her husband isn't bad either...

Dario Franchitti, right?

129 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:24:58pm

Here's the DKos thread
Assad prepping chemical weapons
Discussion in the comments about Mossad, Gulf of Tonkin, Military Industrial Complex, etc. Some rational discussion too but lots of bullshit and conspiracies.

130 Gus  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:25:14pm

re: #116 bratwurst

Could right wing women REALLY be as misogynistic as right wing men?

Dana Perino wants female victims of violence to "make better decisions"

This post-election conservative outreach to women and minorities has been fascinating to watch. Of course this is all something we already know. Here we have Perino and Shapiro mouthing off. They prove that someone can be more moderate than Todd Akin yet remain an ignorant, knuckle dragging weirdo.

131 krypto  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:25:22pm

Naked Photos!

Shades of Scott Brown!

I'll leave it to others to comment on why Scott Brown's Cosmo nude photos didn't harm his senate election prospects while these other nude photos are expected to harm Ashley Judd's prospects.

132 Mich-again  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:25:47pm

Ben Shapiro had to go all the way into his Pictures folder on his laptop to find that picture of Ashley Judd.

133 Kragar  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:25:52pm

re: #116 bratwurst

Could right wing women REALLY be as misogynistic as right wing men?

Dana Perino wants female victims of violence to "make better decisions"

Never vote Republican ever?

134 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:25:54pm

re: #125 Destro

Way off topic about Assad but I am pretty sure Assad is being stubborn because his people, the Alawites don't want to live under Saudi Arabian, Muslim Brotherhood backed Sunni fundamentalists. If Assad dies tonight the Alawites would still carry on the Ba'athist state (as would sizable Sunni secularists and Christian Syrians).

But, you know, in American eyes all problems can be solved by killing the dictator and thus ending the problem...simple narratives for simple people.

I don't think any informed person thinks it would be that simple, Destro. If anyone on high says it will be, you can dismiss it as prole-feed.

135 jaunte  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:26:28pm

re: #131 krypto

Scott Brown's Cosmo nude photos didn't harm Ben Shapiro's fantasy life.

136 Mich-again  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:27:00pm

re: #116 bratwurst

Could right wing women REALLY be as misogynistic as right wing men?

Dana Perino wants female victims of violence to "make better decisions"

Uncovered meat !

137 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:27:53pm

re: #125 Destro

And you are going off the deep end on this.

It can be very, very safely said that there are no good options for Syria.

The best I can come up with is some sort of Post-WWII-esque occupation of the country to keep it stable and allow it the room to reconstruct itself.

Otherwise, I got nothing.

138 austin_blue  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:28:08pm

Uh oh...

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

139 TedStriker  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:28:21pm

re: #135 jaunte

Scott Brown's Cosmo nude photos didn't harm Ben Shapiro's fantasy life.

B-b-b-but, that's different!!! Scott Brown was just showing off his manliness, while Ashley Judd is just a slut and a whore!!!11ty

///

140 jaunte  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:29:09pm

Fantasy Ashley always agreed with Ben.

141 freetoken  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:29:22pm

re: #138 austin_blue

shhh....

142 austin_blue  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:29:42pm

re: #139 TedStriker

B-b-b-but, that's different!!! Scott Brown was just showing off his manliness, while Ashley Judd is just a slut and a whore!!!11ty

///

Shirley, you can't be serious...

143 TedStriker  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:30:43pm

re: #142 austin_blue

Shirley, you can't be serious...

Yes, I'm being serious...and don't call me Shirley.

/

144 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:30:57pm

re: #115 jaunte

I can't find the current status.

passed Senate.

I knew I saw something on it today.

145 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:32:24pm

re: #128 TedStriker

Dario Franchitti, right?

Yes sir: I was at the race in Indy when he won because at the end of the race a huge downpour happened and stopped the race. Huge downpour like some one walked up and poured a bucket of water on you.
The best pics of Ashely are Indy classics.. Running to Dario completely soaked in her flimsy summer dress and floppy hat.

146 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:33:32pm

re: #125 Destro

I'm sure you know plenty about simple thinking.

147 Kragar  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:33:49pm

Rand Paul: Ashley Judd ‘way too damn liberal for our country’

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) on Wednesday reacted to a possible Senate run by Ashley Judd by saying that the actress was so “damn liberal” that she did not even belong in the United States.

Rand Paul, Judge of U.S. citizenship qualifications

148 Petero1818  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:36:46pm

re: #145 A Man for all Seasons

Yes sir: I was at the race in Indy when he won because at the end of the race a huge downpour happened and stopped the race. Huge downpour like some one walked up and poured a bucket of water on you.
The best pics of Ashely are Indy classics.. Running to Dario completely soaked in her flimsy summer dress and floppy hat.

Maybe its just me, but you seem perhaps..... a bit too fond of Ashley////

149 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:39:10pm

re: #148 Petero1818

Maybe its just me, but you seem perhaps..... a bit too fond of Ashley////

She is a married women, you know . . .

150 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:39:51pm

re: #137 ProGunLiberal

And you are going off the deep end on this.

It can be very, very safely said that there are no good options for Syria.

The best I can come up with is some sort of Post-WWII-esque occupation of the country to keep it stable and allow it the room to reconstruct itself.

Otherwise, I got nothing.

Not viable. That'd end up being Iragi Freedom II: Electric Bugaloo.

151 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:41:28pm

bbl

152 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:41:34pm

re: #150 Dark_Falcon

So, then we really have no good option then, do we?

Anybody got other ideas?

153 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:42:28pm

re: #148 Petero1818

Maybe its just me, but you seem perhaps..... a bit too fond of Ashley////

It is just you..:) I think I'm pretty fair in my evaluations of people.

154 Kragar  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:42:53pm

Well, I'm sure the guys at WND will love this.

Santorum: U.S. Needs Immigrants To Grow Its Population

155 freetoken  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:44:01pm

re: #147 Kragar

re: #154 Kragar

The new GOP - just like the previous GOP.

156 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:44:33pm

re: #147 Kragar

Rand Paul: Ashley Judd ‘way too damn liberal for our country’

Rand Paul, Judge of U.S. citizenship qualifications

She will suffer the wrath of Aqua Buddha.

157 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:45:51pm

re: #152 ProGunLiberal

So, then we really have no good option then, do we?

Anybody got other ideas?

No, we have no good options. Anything sent in by NATO or the UN is going to be attacked by now-heavily armed Salafists. Yet again, the basic problem is that we are facing totalitarians who will meet us with asymmetric warfare tactics. No NATO nation is willing to face that situation right now, as its a high cost, low return scenario.

158 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:46:05pm

re: #154 Kragar

I've been trying to persuade Middle Easterners to immigrate here, pointing out the fact we do Chain Immigration.

159 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:46:30pm

re: #147 Kragar

Rand Paul: Ashley Judd ‘way too damn liberal for our country’

Rand Paul, Judge of U.S. citizenship qualifications

LUAP DNAR!

160 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:47:09pm

Fortunately for Egypt, it seems the circus there is getting more inflamed.

161 prairiefire  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:47:31pm

The Senate should be so lucky to have such a set of knockers represent.

162 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:48:13pm

re: #158 ProGunLiberal

I've been trying to persuade Middle Easterners to immigrate here, pointing out the fact we do Chain Immigration.

When he says America needs to increase its population, he's saying "We need more Christians, preferable Socially Conservative whites and Latinos."

163 Mich-again  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:48:13pm

re: #147 Kragar

Rand Paul: Ashley Judd ‘way too damn liberal for our country’

Rand Paul, Judge of U.S. citizenship qualifications

Ah yes, Rand Paul. The genius who said the Federal Government has no jurisdiction in regards to airline security because the Constitution did not mention airplanes.

164 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:48:22pm

re: #161 prairiefire

I'm giving you the Special Agent Gibbs slap for that.

Head out of the gutter. :P

165 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:48:34pm

re: #157 Dark_Falcon

No, we have no good options. Anything sent in by NATO or the UN is going to be attacked by now-heavily armed Salafists. Yet again, the basic problem is that we are facing totalitarians who will meet us with asymmetric warfare tactics. No NATO nation is willing to face that situation right now, as its a high cost, low return scenario.

I think we are politically on a track to contain the Civil war erupting.
It does work sometimes..sometimes

166 Gus  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:49:26pm

Ben: Then there’s her militant feminism, which led her – an actress who has made her fame and fortune from her beauty – to rip into the media for questions about her puffy face, which she called “a misogynistic assault on all women.”


Gus: You don't understand misogyny.

Ben: She complained about “the assault on our body image, the hypersexualization of girls and women and subsequent degradation of our sexuality as we walk through the decades, and the general incessant objectification is what this conversation allegedly about my face is really about.”


Gus: You understand neither hypersexualization or objectification and probably know little about sexuality. Some of Ms. Judd's concerns here are also of concern to conservative women. Now would also be a good time for you to blame the sexual revolution and hippies of the late 60s or thongs.

Ben: That’s a mouthful from a woman who posed completely nude for Norma Jean & Marilyn.

Gus: "Norma Jean & Marilyn" was rated R. Being topless isn't a sexual act and playing a role in that movie doesn't imply an endorsement. I'd also add that Marilyn Monroe was a product of the 50s you guys are always dreaming of.

167 dragonath  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:49:30pm

re: #161 prairiefire

Why thank you, Doctor Frankenstein...

168 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:50:48pm

re: #165 A Man for all Seasons

I think we are politically on a track to contain the Civil war erupting.
It does work sometimes..sometimes

Syria is already engulfed in a civil war. And its likely going to end even worse than ours did. Sarin and Mustard Gas used as a 1-2 punch makes Sherman's March look like a picnic parade.

169 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:51:00pm

re: #162 Dark_Falcon

I'm saying "Come one, come all! We are a safe country, with our Muslims being unradical. You will be safe and welcome here!"

170 austin_blue  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:51:41pm

re: #150 Dark_Falcon

Not viable. That'd end up being Iragi Freedom II: Electric Bugaloo.

The Alawites are so tooooast!

If the UN doesn't step in, you'll see ethnic cleansing among the Sunnis, Shiites, Kurds, and Orthodox Christians make the Yugoslavian breakup look like the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade.

171 austin_blue  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:53:17pm

re: #161 prairiefire

The Senate should be so lucky to have such a set of knockers represent.

Sank you, Doktor!

172 dragonath  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:54:45pm

re: #168 Dark_Falcon

Syria is already engulfed in a civil war. And its likely going to end even worse than ours did. Sarin and Mustard Gas used as a 1-2 punch makes Sherman's March look like a picnic parade.

re: #170 austin_blue

If the UN doesn't step in, you'll see ethnic cleansing among the Sunnis, Shiites, Kurds, and Orthodox Christians make the Yugoslavian breakup look like the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade.

Man, these sound like shitty parades.

173 Kragar  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:56:21pm

Why You Shouldn’t Believe The Unfounded Concerns Over Falling U.S. Birth Rates

Lamenting America’s declining birth rate has become a regular ritual among America’s conservative commentators, who see the trend as a threat to the long-term economic sustainability of the social safety net as well as the traditional family structure. The most recent round of concern was kicked off by a Pew Research Center report that found births per 1,000 women of childbearing age hit a record low of 63.2 in 2011. That stat was picked up in a New York Times op-ed piece and subsequent blog post by conservative writer Ross Douthat, with additional encouragement from other commentators who joined in.

In fact, lower birth rates actually correlate with a whole host of positive social and economic trends, such as increased female literacy, increased job opportunities for women, overall national wealth, and women gaining greater control over their own reproduction. So decrying dropping birth rates — especially when it’s conservatives doing the mourning — comes awfully close to pining for past decades when women were far less equal.

But there’s an even more practical issue with this latest round of worries over the “birth dearth” — it’s focusing on the wrong statistic. Douthat’s number comes from the general fertility rate, which calculates annual births per 1,000 women of childbearing age. The Population Reference Bureau explains that the total fertility rate, or “the average number of children women would bear in their lifetimes if the pace of childbearing remained constant for the long term,” is actually a more appropriate measure:

174 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:57:18pm

re: #170 austin_blue

I don't think the Balkans are quite done yet either. We will likely have another Bosnian War. Likely to stop the secession of Republika Srpska to Serbia, especially considering how much of the non-Serbian Population was ethnically cleansed back then from that area.

I say, when this happens, help Bosnia and Croatia do whatever they want to do, and realize the only way we will stop this from happening again is doing Biden's recommendation from 1999.

175 austin_blue  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:57:31pm

re: #172 dragonath

re: #170 austin_blue

Man, these sound like shitty parades.

And DF and I love parades! And Balloons! Cascade NYPD sensitive intel upon me!

Oh, that was really gay.

///

176 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:57:33pm

re: #170 austin_blue

The Alawites are so tooooast!

If the UN doesn't step in, you'll see ethnic cleansing among the Sunnis, Shiites, Kurds, and Orthodox Christians make the Yugoslavian breakup look like the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade.

And if the UN does step in the Salafists will reply with suicide bombers and IEDs.

Perhaps the NATO nations should demand that Saudi Arabia provide the needed troops. "You guys funded the spread of Salafism, so no you get to clear up the mess you made!" Likely unworkable, but its a pleasant thought.

177 Kragar  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:58:04pm

re: #172 dragonath

re: #170 austin_blue

Man, these sound like shitty parades.

They have their moments

178 Gus  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:58:30pm

re: #173 Kragar

Why You Shouldn’t Believe The Unfounded Concerns Over Falling U.S. Birth Rates

Ross Douthat...

"I will now proceed to hammer a square peg into a round hole."

179 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:58:38pm

re: #176 Dark_Falcon

No, we should shore up Jordan, and look into reviving the idea the French killed in the early 20's.

180 freetoken  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:59:44pm

re: #173 Kragar

That TP article sort of begs the question. Nevertheless, I do agree that we here in the US really don't have to worry about low birthrates.

181 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:00:27pm

re: #179 ProGunLiberal

No, we should shore up Jordan, and look into reviving the idea the French killed in the early 20's.

Jordan can't handle this. Sending Jordanian troops would provoke an uprising in Jordan.

182 Gus  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:00:49pm

Lower birth rates is a sign of affluence too. It can mean several things.

183 Gus  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:01:39pm

It's not freaking decadence though. Unless Ross is admitting that we living a decadent capitalist lifestyle or something.

184 dragonath  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:02:55pm

The funny thing about people like Ross Douthat is that they bemoan the amount of government, then turn around and advocate policies that would lead to more of it.

More people, more competition for limited goods, assholes.

185 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:05:33pm

re: #181 Dark_Falcon

Which is why we should shore it up. Re-direct aid to Jordan, and subsidize Natural Gas to them, so they don't have to buy Egyptian gas, as the MB hiked the price of gas to Jordan, creating a great chunk of this issue.

And, since you now where this is going, with wanting regionalization in the world, we should begin to push for an Arab State containing the Arab former portion of the Ottoman Empire, circa 1914, minus Kuwait and the East coast of Saudi Arabia.

Essentially Jordan+Syria+Lebanon+Iraq+the Hijaz. And Palestine, if we can swing it. We need more projects like the proposed East African Federation.

186 Mich-again  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:05:46pm

Here is a great picture from Pure Detroit to commemorate the 79th anniversary of the repeal of Prohibition. I SO would have been in that parade..

187 Gus  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:06:32pm

re: #184 dragonath

The funny thing about people like Ross Douthat is that they bemoan the amount of government, then turn around and advocate policies that would lead to more of it.

More people, more competition for limited goods, assholes.

I'm an independent still politically. Others that I've met usually say that both Democrats and Republicans believe in big government, they just spend it differently.

188 Mich-again  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:08:09pm

re: #184 dragonath

The funny thing about people like Ross Douthat is that they bemoan the amount of government, then turn around and advocate policies that would lead to more of it.

More people, more competition for limited goods, assholes.

There is no overall coherent strategy to the goals and aspirations of the right wingers, just a random collection of initiatives with no particular mission in mind.

189 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:18:29pm

Shapiro really doesn't like the ladies much huh. And seriously using a bad movie review of hers? Yeah because Ronald Reagan was never in bad movies and neither was Fred Thompson. Moron. For someone that they deride and say doesn't have a chance, they sure act scared as shit of Ashley. Maybe because she's actually in touch with reality unlike them.

190 Gus  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:18:56pm

So that's it huh? The Earth is 4.5 billion years old. They just got the date wrong. 4.5 billion years ago God created the Earth and then Adam and Eve and soon after dinosaurs. Soon humans were living alongside the dinosaurs. 4.5 billion years ago today.

//

191 Gus  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:19:29pm

re: #189 HappyWarrior

Shapiro really doesn't like the ladies much huh. And seriously using a bad movie review of hers? Yeah because Ronald Reagan was never in bad movies and neither was Fred Thompson. Moron. For someone that they deride and say doesn't have a chance, they sure act scared as shit of Ashley. Maybe because she's actually in touch with reality unlike them.

Reagan wasn't a horrible actor. But! :D

192 prairiefire  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:21:00pm

Ashley is a cool dude. She comes from a train wreck of a Kentucky family with a sheltered pedophile who violated her, as well as her mother. The quote from the grandma, Polly, about her being a "Hollywood liberal" smacked of brain sucking Fox News.
She married an Italian race car driver and has been a consistent voice for wyymen.

193 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:22:50pm

re: #192 prairiefire

Wait, her Grandma said that about her?!

Which side's grandma?

194 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:24:01pm

re: #185 ProGunLiberal

Which is why we should shore it up. Re-direct aid to Jordan, and subsidize Natural Gas to them, so they don't have to buy Egyptian gas, as the MB hiked the price of gas to Jordan, creating a great chunk of this issue.

And, since you now where this is going, with wanting regionalization in the world, we should begin to push for an Arab State containing the Arab former portion of the Ottoman Empire, circa 1914, minus Kuwait and the East coast of Saudi Arabia.

Essentially Jordan+Syria+Lebanon+Iraq+the Hijaz. And Palestine, if we can swing it. We need more projects like the proposed East African Federation.

That last is a bad idea, as such a federation would promptly gang up on Israel and would likely be hostile to us.

195 Gus  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:24:43pm

USS Eisenhower Battle Group with USS Iwo Jima and 2,500 Marines at Yankee station off Libya. Over.

Image: USS-Eisenhower-Battlegroup-.jpg

196 Gus  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:25:13pm

Ready for green light.

197 dragonath  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:25:15pm

OMG, I just realized Ashley Judd was Wesley Crusher's girlfriend in Star Trek: TNG.

198 Gus  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:28:34pm

Heck. Syria is basically surrounded save for maybe Lebanon.

199 freetoken  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:29:23pm
200 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:30:22pm

I remember seeing that movie Double Jeopardy. Pretty much unmemorable but Judd was in that. I found her attractive and I still do. She's easy on the eyes as they say.

201 Gus  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:30:23pm

re: #199 freetoken

Image: tumblr_le4q533rfk1qaptap.gif

Oh look, a lesbian kiss on Star Trek. //

202 jaunte  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:30:30pm

re: #195 Gus

This looks shopped. I can tell from some of the frigates.

203 dragonath  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:31:17pm

re: #189 HappyWarrior

Shapiro really doesn't like the ladies much huh. And seriously using a bad movie review of hers? Yeah because Ronald Reagan was never in bad movies...

Yeah, Bedtime for Bonzo should be, like, number one on every critic's list, but those Hollywood liberals, man. And Orson Welles is fat, too.

204 Gus  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:31:44pm

re: #202 jaunte

This looks shopped. I can tell from some of the frigates.

Really?

205 prairiefire  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:32:09pm

re: #193 ProGunLiberal

The pedophile's side.

206 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:32:18pm

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

Then try to reconcile the issues. Israel concedes the Entire West Bank, in exchange of guarantee of protection for Israel and West Bank, with the area completely demilitarized, and having a buffer force, sort of like what is at the Suez Canal and in the Balkans, which would be stationed there for 50 or so years.

Because of Geographic separation, Gaza would either become part of Egypt, or a really loosely connected self-governing territory. And the Golan Heights would go back to the Levantine Superstate. Both of these would also be demilitarized with half-century buffer forces.

207 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:32:32pm

re: #202 jaunte

This looks shopped. I can tell from some of the frigates.

I see cruisers and destroyers, not frigates. But that's me.

208 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:33:08pm

re: #205 prairiefire

Well, to be as blunt as a hammer, that grandmother is worthless trailer trash who was an extremely poor parent.

209 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:33:48pm

re: #195 Gus

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the "Not Fucking Around" force.

210 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:34:25pm

re: #203 dragonath

Yeah, Bedtime for Bonzo should be, like, number one on every critic's list, but those Hollywood liberals, man. And Orson Welles is fat, too.

Haha. Seriously.

211 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:34:58pm

re: #206 ProGunLiberal

Then try to reconcile the issues. Israel concedes the Entire West Bank, in exchange of guarantee of protection for Israel and West Bank, with the area completely demilitarized, and having a buffer force, sort of like what is at the Suez Canal and in the Balkans, which would be stationed there for 50 or so years.

Because of Geographic separation, Gaza would either become part of Egypt, or a really loosely connected self-governing territory. And the Golan Heights would go back to the Levantine Superstate. Both of these would also be demilitarized with half-century buffer forces.

Not possible, not till the Arab states stop putting out hate propaganda against Israel. Nor would most of those states like to join with their neighbors. Their leaders would prefer to maintain their offices.

212 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:35:10pm

re: #209 ProGunLiberal

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the "Not Fucking Around" force.

But Jim Inholfe says Obama's going to disarm the military! If I can't trust Jim Inholfe's insane rantings, who can I trust!

213 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:36:26pm

Rubio says he hopes that in the next two years the discussion about immigration reform can lead to establishing a “pathway to citizenship” for illegal aliens. Bryan Fischer writes him off as future candidate.

Keep it going Bryan, soon it will just be you talking to yourself in a "big" empty tent.

214 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:39:16pm

re: #213 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Rubio says he hopes that in the next two years the discussion about immigration reform can lead to establishing a “pathway to citizenship” for illegal aliens. Bryan Fischer writes him off as future candidate.

[Embedded content]

Keep it going Bryan, soon it will just be you talking to yourself in a "big" empty tent.

Fischer will do the same thing with Rubio that he did with Romney. Bitch about him but then treat him like he's America's only hope against the evil feminism of Hillary or the evil Bidenism or Biden, or whoever. I don't think Rubio will be the nominee though but if he is, Fischer will put his tail between his legs because he's as big a suck up to the GOP as many of their officials are to him.

215 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:40:41pm

Seriously, though is there anyone acceptable to Fischer? If Ronald Reagan, the actual guy as opposed to the abstract figure they invented ran for president. Guys like Fischer would oppose him. "He supported homosexuals being able to teach in schools, RINO liberal!." Not to mention Fischer would blow a blood vessel since RR actually had gay friends.

216 dragonath  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:41:26pm

As long as people are going to judge actors for the silly parts they play, Wil Wheaton and Ashley Judd in Trek are about a billion times more awesomer than say, Kelsey Grammer and the show "24".

Just saying

217 palomino  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:43:37pm

Notice how Shapiro says Judd "posed nude" as if that were some sort of crime, or at least moral indiscretion. He's a prude with a stick up his ass. You know who else "posed nude" at one point or another during their careers? Julie Andrews, Liv Ullman, Meryl Streep, Nicole Kidman, Jane Fonda(!), Kate Winslet, et al...basically many of the greatest actresses of our time. (And then there's Scott Brown, but I guess it's OK if you're a Republican and male.)

Sadly she's got no chance, unless McConnell goes mega-Todd Akin. KY is one of the reddest states in the country...like OK and WV, its population is older, whiter, more religious, more rural, and more conservative than the national average.

218 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:43:48pm

re: #216 dragonath

As long as people are going to judge actors for the silly parts they play, Wil Wheaton and Ashley Judd in Trek are about a billion times more awesomer than say, Kelsey Grammer and the show "24".

Just saying

Grammer's pretty cool as Sideshow Bob. But really most living right wing celebrities are pretty lame. Chuck Norris? Puhleaze. If I'm going to have a famous bearded celebrity on my side in politics, I'll take Jeff Bridges who not only is a better actor but an awesome person too. Recently celebrated his birthday too, so a happy belated to the Dude here too.

219 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:44:14pm

re: #211 Dark_Falcon

Maybe having Palestinian friends has given me a different point of view. Israel has done some things that need to address as well. The actions of Irgun, the Lillehammer Affair, a real race problem in Israel towards Arabs living there that has alienated Israeli Arabs, the soft responses to Price Tag attacks. In particular with the last one, there was one against a Church which got me very pissed.

In the I-P conflict, the Christians are getting screwed by both sides. So any attack on them gets me very ticked off.

220 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:45:05pm

re: #217 palomino

Notice how Shapiro says Judd "posed nude" as if that were some sort of crime, or at least moral indiscretion. He's a prude with a stick up his ass. You know who else "posed nude" at one point or another during their careers? Julie Andrews, Liv Ullman, Meryl Streep, Nicole Kidman, Jane Fonda(!), Kate Winslet, et al...basically many of the greatest actors of all time. (And then there's Scott Brown, but I guess it's OK if you're a Republican and male.)

Sadly she's got no chance, unless McConnell goes mega-Todd Akin. KY is one of the reddest states in the country...like OK and WV, its population is older, whiter, more religious, and more conservative than the national average.

It's funny to see a 20's something male like Shapiro acting more prudish than my grandmother. Good point about the hypocrisy though.

221 Mich-again  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:45:19pm

re: #215 HappyWarrior

Seriously, though is there anyone acceptable to Fischer? If Ronald Reagan, the actual guy as opposed to the abstract figure they invented ran for president. Guys like Fischer would oppose him. "He supported homosexuals being able to teach in schools, RINO liberal!." Not to mention Fischer would blow a blood vessel since RR actually had gay friends.

If Jesus walked into his office Fischer would call security to remove the long haired socialist hippie.

222 Gus  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:45:37pm

re: #217 palomino

Notice how Shapiro says Judd "posed nude" as if that were some sort of crime, or at least moral indiscretion. He's a prude with a stick up his ass. You know who else "posed nude" at one point or another during their careers? Julie Andrews, Liv Ullman, Meryl Streep, Nicole Kidman, Jane Fonda(!), Kate Winslet, et al...basically many of the greatest actors of all time. (And then there's Scott Brown, but I guess it's OK if you're a Republican and male.)

Sadly she's got no chance, unless McConnell goes mega-Todd Akin. KY is one of the reddest states in the country...like OK and WV, its population is older, whiter, more religious, and more conservative than the national average.

Dude's from another era. It's bizarre to watch him talk.

223 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:46:42pm

re: #221 Mich-again

If Jesus walked into his office Fischer would call security to remove the long haired socialist hippie.

Shave your beard hippie and stop preaching this peace and love stuff that's out of the Communist Manifesto. // Heh it was always amusing to read about Christians in the 60's putting down the hippies for not being Jesus like when the hippies were the ones with the long hair, beards, sandals, and preaching peace and love to your fellow man.

224 Mich-again  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:48:47pm

re: #220 HappyWarrior

It's funny to see a 20's something male like Shapiro acting more prudish than my grandmother.

Whenever someone acts holier than thou, it's a red flag that they are hiding some dark secret.

225 palomino  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:50:23pm

re: #222 Gus

Dude's from another era. It's bizarre to watch him talk.

Which is very strange, given that he looks about 14 years old. If anything, he should be very much from this era. Sad for him, he would have loved the mores and gender roles of the 17th century.

226 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:51:05pm

re: #224 Mich-again

The way Shapiro looks, it is likely something that would get him on a Sex Offenders List.

227 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:51:28pm

re: #224 Mich-again

Whenever someone acts holier than thou, it's a red flag that they are hiding some dark secret.

Yeah. I finally watched that documentary Burns did on Prohibition the other day and the Anti-Saloon League head that was attacking Al Smith for being a wet and Catholic ended up having two mistresses at the same time.

228 dragonath  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:53:15pm

re: #218 HappyWarrior

Oh yeah, I forgot about Sideshow Bob. Grammer played a captain on Next Generation too.

229 Mich-again  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:54:42pm

re: #227 HappyWarrior

Yeah. I finally watched that documentary Burns did on Prohibition the other day and the Anti-Saloon League head that was attacking Al Smith for being a wet and Catholic ended up having two mistresses at the same time.

Technically it is not against the rules to cheat on a mistress.. ha

230 Gus  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:55:12pm

re: #225 palomino

Which is very strange, given that he looks about 14 years old. If anything, he should be very much from this era. Sad for him, he would have loved the mores and gender roles of the 17th century.

I guess to put it another way is that Ben Shapiro's argument against Ashley Judd is a personal attack thus proving many of her points.

231 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:55:40pm

re: #229 Mich-again

Technically it is not against the rules to cheat on a mistress.. ha

"I'm Warren Harding and I approve this message." I always root for the bootleggers. And that was before I found out I had one in my family tree.

232 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:56:40pm

re: #213 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Rubio says he hopes that in the next two years the discussion about immigration reform can lead to establishing a “pathway to citizenship” for illegal aliens. Bryan Fischer writes him off as future candidate.

[Embedded content]

Keep it going Bryan, soon it will just be you talking to yourself in a "big" empty tent.

Rubio's younger than you, Bryan, and saner too. If his time has to wait till your time ends, he'll still get his chance.

/spits

233 Destro  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:57:50pm

re: #137 ProGunLiberal

And you are going off the deep end on this.

It can be very, very safely said that there are no good options for Syria.

The best I can come up with is some sort of Post-WWII-esque occupation of the country to keep it stable and allow it the room to reconstruct itself.

Otherwise, I got nothing.

Iraq part Duex. The comedic sequel with even crazier Shi'ite Hezbollah next door eager to sneak into an American occupied Syria and re-enact the Marine barracks bombing for a new generation.

Thanks but no thanks. I think there is a good option. Don't get involved and that includes not helping the rebels.

234 Mich-again  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:59:08pm

re: #233 Destro

I think there is a good option. Don't get involved and that includes not helping the rebels.

A Pox on both your houses.

235 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:00:57pm

re: #150 Dark_Falcon

Not viable. That'd end up being Iragi Freedom II: Electric Bugaloo.

re: #233 Destro

Iraq part Duex. The comedic sequel with even crazier Shi'ite Hezbollah next door eager to sneak into an American occupied Syria and re-enact the Marine barracks bombing for a new generation.

Thanks but no thanks. I think there is a good option. Don't get involved and that includes not helping the rebels.

Good Grief, I used the same analogy as Destro! I think the world must be coming to an end!

/Kind of a Peanuts riff

236 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:01:31pm

re: #231 HappyWarrior

"I'm Warren Harding and I approve this message." I always root for the bootleggers. And that was before I found out I had one in my family tree.

Well...keep in mind that bootleggers then and now included people willing to risk mass poisoning to turn a profit.

237 dragonath  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:02:09pm
238 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:02:13pm

re: #234 Mich-again

A Pox on both your houses.

Don't wish for that. Refugees would spread the pox to neighboring nations and from there around the world.

/In modern times, a pox upon one house quickly becomes a pox upon the world.

239 Mich-again  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:03:29pm

re: #235 Dark_Falcon

I think it is more likely we'll see a missile strike or drone attack on the chinless ophthalmologist. Terrorize the terrorists.

240 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:04:06pm

re: #236 The Ghost of a Flea

Well...keep in mind that bootleggers then and now included people willing to risk mass poisoning to turn a profit.

Most of them. Contrary to Boardwalk Empire, Dean O'Banion and the Northside Gang never used rotgut.

241 makeitstop  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:04:51pm

re: #235 Dark_Falcon

/Kind of a Peanuts riff

Speaking of Peanuts riffs... here's Chrarlie Brown's theme slowed down 600 times. Very new age-y...

242 Mich-again  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:05:25pm

re: #238 Dark_Falcon

Don't wish for that. Refugees would spread the pox to neighboring nations and from there around the world.

/In modern times, a pox upon one house quickly becomes a pox upon the world.

That was an attempt to sum up what Destro posted.

243 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:07:00pm

re: #236 The Ghost of a Flea

Well...keep in mind that bootleggers then and now included people willing to risk mass poisoning to turn a profit.

True.

244 prairiefire  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:11:15pm

re: #218 HappyWarrior

Mr. Bridges feeds starving American children, God bless him.

245 Gus  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:11:32pm

re: #231 HappyWarrior

"I'm Warren Harding and I approve this message." I always root for the bootleggers. And that was before I found out I had one in my family tree.

I'm Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr. and I approve this message.

246 dragonath  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:12:55pm

Betty Boop approves this message:

(skip to the very end)

247 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:13:07pm

re: #244 prairiefire

Mr. Bridges feeds starving American children, God bless him.

Yeah I saw him promoting his charity on CNN in October I believe. Awesome awesome cause.

248 Mich-again  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:13:35pm

re: #245 Gus

I'm Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr. and I approve this message.

Religious extremism in American politics goes back a ways..

249 Gus  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:13:37pm

We are busy building a Deathstar people (!) and getting rid of a) Christmas; b) the Marines; c) God; d) Heterosexual marriages.

250 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:16:47pm

Ha, forgot that my avatar is that old brick anti prohibition message I saw in Baltimore a couple years back. Really when I look at prohibition from a historical perspective, I see a lot of bigotry disguised as good intentions. The hostility directed at German-Americans in WWI makes me wonder what my grandfather and his family went through.

251 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:21:01pm

I suppose Shapiro is pretending to be unaware that Marilyn herself posed nude for (gasp!) Playboy, and a decent biopic would have to include that episode of her life in it. The pose shown is the same as Marilyn's from about 60 years ago.

Getting upset about nude female bodies is really so last century. Shapiro needs to get a life.

252 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:22:36pm

re: #251 wheat-dogghazi

I suppose Shapiro is pretending to be unaware that Marilyn herself posed nude for (gasp!) Playboy, and a decent biopic would have to include that episode of her life in it. The pose shown is the same as Marilyn's from about 60 years ago.

Getting upset about nude female bodies is really so last 19th century. Shapiro needs to get a life.

Fixed.

253 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:24:07pm

re: #251 wheat-dogghazi

I suppose Shapiro is pretending to be unaware that Marilyn herself posed nude for (gasp!) Playboy, and a decent biopic would have to include that episode of her life in it. The pose shown is the same as Marilyn's from about 60 years ago.

Getting upset about nude female bodies is really so last century. Shapiro needs to get a life.

Marilyn was on the first cover I believe. Beautiful woman. Though my favorite 50's Hollywood starlet is Grace Kelly.

254 Gus  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:24:55pm

re: #253 HappyWarrior

Marilyn was on the first cover I believe. Beautiful woman. Though my favorite 50's Hollywood starlet is Grace Kelly.

255 dragonath  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:25:44pm

Jayne Mansfield

256 Lidane  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:29:13pm

re: #232 Dark_Falcon

Rubio's younger than you, Bryan, and saner too. If his time has to wait till your time ends, he'll still get his chance.

/spits

Rubio's also not a Natural Born Citizen, so he can't run anyway.

/World Net Daily

257 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:32:25pm

re: #256 Lidane

/World Net Daily

Weird Nut Daily, in the form of its editors and contributors, can go fuck its collective self with a railroad spike.

258 Gus  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:33:12pm

re: #255 dragonath

Jayne Mansfield

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259 Lidane  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:37:24pm

re: #257 Dark_Falcon

Weird Nut Daily, in the form of its editors and contributors, can go fuck its collective self with a railroad spike.

And yet it's got the presumptive 2016 GOP front-runner as a contributing writer now.

260 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:38:24pm

re: #259 Lidane

And yet it's got the presumptive 2016 GOP front-runner as a contributing writer now.

Can we not speculate about 2016, please? It makes my head hurt!

261 Lidane  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:39:39pm

re: #260 Dark_Falcon

Can we not speculate about 2016, please? It makes my head hurt!

I'm just saying, if the GOP pattern holds, Santorum will be the front-runner in 2016. That's how it's worked out for the Republicans for a while now.

262 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:43:02pm

Is it me or does Shapiro look like a mischievous teenager who just got into his mother's undergarment drawer? Or the cookie jar?

263 Kragar  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:45:59pm

re: #261 Lidane

I'm just saying, if the GOP pattern holds, Santorum will be the front-runner in 2016. That's how it's worked out for the Republicans for a while now.

Well, Santorum didn't help his any chances earlier by supporting immigration.

264 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:46:46pm

re: #262 Eclectic Infidel

Is it me or does Shapiro look like a mischievous teenager who just got into his mother's undergarment drawer? Or the cookie jar?

It's not just you. He reminds me of the type of asshole who tormented me and PLL when we were in high school. Different places, different times, but the assholes were in many ways the same.

266 CarleeCork  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:52:06pm

re: #259 Lidane

And yet it's got the presumptive 2016 GOP front-runner as a contributing writer now.

Puhleeze, you think "take the miscarriage home" fetus dude is presidential material?

I believe over half of Americans would find that over the insanity line.

267 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:54:39pm

re: #266 CarleeCork

Puhleeze, you think "take the miscarriage home" fetus dude is presidential material?

I believe over half of Americans would find that over the insanity line.

And yet he gave Mitt Romney a fight that lasted well into April. He's nuts but his nuttiness is paltable to many in the GOP base and as pointed out the GOP does have a habit of going next in line. I do think they finally break it because I don't think Santorum is too popular with corporate donors.

268 prairiefire  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:56:04pm

re: #255 dragonath

Who begat Mariska ~[Link: www.imdb.com...]

269 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:57:44pm

re: #266 CarleeCork

Puhleeze, you think "take the miscarriage home" fetus dude is presidential material?

I believe over half of Americans would find that over the insanity line.

There are lots of good attack angles to take on Rick Santorum, but that isn't one of them. It comes across as extremely insensitive to the death of his son. Don't make the mistake of the wingnut who spews insults and then wonders why he is disliked.

270 Joanne  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:59:42pm

re: #217 palomino

Perhaps. She's a movie star with a race car husband. It's not NASCAR but still. Politics is a popularity contest.

271 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 10:00:16pm

re: #267 HappyWarrior

And yet he gave Mitt Romney a fight that lasted well into April. He's nuts but his nuttiness is paltable to many in the GOP base and as pointed out the GOP does have a habit of going next in line. I do think they finally break it because I don't think Santorum is too popular with corporate donors.

Those donors know he can't win and corporate chieftains tend to avoid pouring money into things that will inevitably blow up and hurt them (there are exceptions, see Enron for a famous example).

272 prairiefire  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 10:01:33pm

[Link: politicalwire.com...]
I think Obama might order a strike on Syria by this weekend.

273 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 10:04:23pm

re: #271 Dark_Falcon

Those donors know he can't win and corporate chieftains tend to avoid pouring money into things that will inevitably blow up and hurt them (there are exceptions, see Enron for a famous example).

Sure. Now I do think it depends on what he does these next few years. He seems eager to keep his profile high per his very vocal opposition to the disability treaty.

274 austin_blue  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 10:07:57pm

Rubio walks it back. Kinda. Sorta.

[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]

What a fucking twit.

Night, all. Sweet scaly dreams.

275 makeitstop  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 10:08:11pm

re: #271 Dark_Falcon

Those donors know he can't win and corporate chieftains tend to avoid pouring money into things that will inevitably blow up and hurt them (there are exceptions, see Enron Mitt Romney for a famous example).

ftfy

276 Joanne  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 10:11:00pm

re: #232 Dark_Falcon

Rubio is just like Paul Ryan. Considered a Very Serious Person but just above a box of rocks in the brains department. Listen to what he says sometimes. He's a policy moron. And he has ethical (financial - as in spending GOP of FL money on himself) issues.

Which means the GOP will love him.

277 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 10:11:22pm

re: #275 makeitstop

ftfy

Heh yes. I think it's more style than anything though. Santorum's what I call a more populist conservative in the mold of Palin and Huckabee. Base seems to like those types more than the corporate donors especially in a state like Iowa.

278 freetoken  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 10:11:57pm

The earlier post of the Al Jarreau vid prompted me to look this up:

279 Joanne  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 10:12:33pm

re: #234 Mich-again

A Pox on both your houses.

Destro has two houses?

280 Kragar  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 10:14:33pm

re: #272 prairiefire

[Link: politicalwire.com...]
I think Obama might order a strike on Syria by this weekend.

Britain has 'directly' warned Assad of immediate response if Syria uses chemical weapons

281 Kragar  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 10:21:38pm

Apparently NATO is already moving assets into Turkey in case Syria tries anything.

282 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 10:33:35pm

Good Night, All.

283 Kragar  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 10:37:46pm

Syria's war spills into Lebanon as gunmen battle in Tripoli

Gunmen loyal to opposite sides in neighboring Syria's civil war battled on Wednesday in the streets of a northern Lebanese city where two days of clashes have killed at least six people and wounded more than 50, officials said.

The Lebanese army fanned out in the city of Tripoli in an attempt to calm the fighting, with soldiers patrolling the streets in armored personnel carriers and manning checkpoints. Authorities closed major roads because of sniper fire.

284 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 10:44:26pm

Good Night lizards.

285 freetoken  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 11:10:33pm

Charlie Byrd:

286 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 11:13:18pm

Think I just hit a major break in finding an old friend.

287 dragonath  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 11:19:21pm
288 lostlakehiker  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 11:41:59pm

Well, I liked Patricia Schroeder's remark when she was running for office and asked how she could handle both motherhood (she was still in her childbearing years at the time) and the duties of her office, she famously remarked

I have a uterus and a brain, and I use them both.

So Ashley Judd has acting skills, and an acting bod, and she uses them both. If Arnold Schwarzenegger, who had both, could be governor of California and at any rate less bad than Gray Davis, then Ashley Judd stands a chance of being an OK senator. Or better. For starters, she's already good at something.
There's no reason at all why a feminist can't be hot, and make good use of it. The point of feminism isn't that all that is demeaning. It's that there's more to most women than that.

(There's men who bring nothing to the table but beefcake, for that matter, nothing sex-specific about the existence of kind of vacuous hotties. The point is that, as with the movie Legally Blonde, there's also the highly non-vacuous sort. And way more of them, truth be told.)

289 lostlakehiker  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 11:44:15pm

re: #283 Kragar

Syria's war spills into Lebanon as gunmen battle in Tripoli

And the most recent news is that according to US Intel, Syria has now loaded the precursor binary ingredients of sarin into bombs. The checklist to an actual use of the stuff just got one step shorter on an already short list.

Not good.

290 lostlakehiker  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 11:48:08pm

re: #45 ProGunLiberal

Uh-oh.

What happened. Chemical Weapon attack?

Bombs being loaded up with chem.

291 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 11:54:13pm

re: #267 HappyWarrior

And yet he gave Mitt Romney a fight that lasted well into April. He's nuts but his nuttiness is paltable to many in the GOP base and as pointed out the GOP does have a habit of going next in line. I do think they finally break it because I don't think Santorum is too popular with corporate donors.

I wondered why Sheldon Adelson ponied up milions for the Gingrich campaign: he obviously did it to split the True Conservative vote in the GOP primaries and assure that Santorum would not be in a position to challenge Romney at the convention.

292 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:10:39am

Ever wonder where the wingnuts get all those talking points that are just completely factually wrong, not just wrong but ludicrously so? They get them from people like Lt. Gen. (Ret.) W.G. Boykin...

How Marxism is taking over America...

This guy has got it all going, ex-military, argument from authority, laid back sane sounding delivery, too bad every single thing he says is either a lie or an intentional misrepresentation of fact. Especially when he completely flatly lies about the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty controlling small arms sales and ownership within the United States. This man is dangerous. :(

293 Decatur Deb  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:12:52am

re: #290 lostlakehiker

Bombs being loaded up with chem.

There's an app for that:

[Link: forums.bistudio.com...]

294 dragonath  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:14:37am

The Chipmunks Christmas Song... slowed down:

[Link: panic.com...]

295 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:19:16am

The chipmunks song slowed down, featuring Satan

296 researchok  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:35:20am

Good morning, all you godless heathens.
/

297 researchok  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:39:53am

re: #292 watching you tiny alien kittens are

The stranger the backdrop, the stranger the message.

Its kind of like dictators posters- the larger they are and the more there are, the more oppressive the dictator.

298 researchok  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:44:37am

re: #285 freetoken

To be able to play like that...

TY

299 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:49:59am

I got as far as "the bailouts were about nationalizing major sectors of the economy".

Ergo: George W Bush was a Marxist!!!

300 researchok  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:50:22am

re: #278 freetoken

Great find.

I really like these jazz versions.

301 freetoken  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:54:11am

Marsalis:

302 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 1:01:19am

re: #17 darthstar

Would you settle for a sexy Jack Nicholson?

Image: nicholson.jpg

Oh, sorry...there's no such thing as a sexy Jack Nicholson.

Jack's boobs are bigger than Ashley's.

303 researchok  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 1:05:09am

re: #301 freetoken

Who is that singing at the end of the piece?

304 freetoken  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 1:07:25am

re: #303 researchok

You mean the women? Don't know.

305 Kragar  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 1:45:53am

Glenn Beck, Vince Vaughn, Peter Billingsley launch reality show

Glenn Beck is launching a reality show with Vince Vaughn and Peter Billingsley to find great documentary filmmakers.

Vaughn is one of Hollywood's highest profile conservatives, and a recent Ron Paul supporter. Billingsley, a producer and director who often works with Vaughn, is celebrated this time of year for his childhood role in the classic film "A Christmas Story."

The new reality show, called "Pursuit of Truth," will air on Beck's TheBlazeTV. It will feature documentaries submitted to the show as it seeks "the world's next great documentary filmmaker." Twenty competitors will see the ultimate prize of financing and worldwide distribution.]

306 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 1:55:45am

re: #305 Kragar

Glenn Beck, Vince Vaughn, Peter Billingsley launch reality show

But these filmmakers will be shut out of the Oscar nominations by the liberal Hollywood elite, just like Dinesh D’Souza

307 RadicalModerate  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 1:59:17am

Knew this was coming.
The impotent tears of rightwing rage are flowing over this one.


'2016' Oscar Snub Has Filmmakers Claiming Political Bias

2016, a negative take on President Barack Obama co-written and directed by author Dinesh D’Souza, earned $33.4 million at the domestic box office. But its omission on the list of the 15 documentaries the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences said Monday would advance in the voting process makes it ineligible for an Oscar.

"Dinesh warned me this might happen," Molen said with a laugh Tuesday. "The action confirms my opinion that the bias against anything from a conservative point of view is dead on arrival in Hollywood circles. The film’s outstanding success means that America went to see the documentary in spite of how Hollywood feels about it."

Of course, it never occurred to D'Souza that maybe, just maybe that documentaries need to have a factual basis, and not one of a delusional racial hate-fevered fantasy.

308 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 2:03:21am

re: #307 RadicalModerate

Knew this was coming.
The impotent tears of rightwing rage are flowing over this one.


'2016' Oscar Snub Has Filmmakers Claiming Political Bias

Of course, it never occurred to D'Souza that maybe, just maybe that documentaries need to have a factual basis, and not one of a delusional racial hate-fevered fantasy.

To be fair, if that were the standard, Mike Moore would have to give back the award for Bowling for Columbine.

309 RadicalModerate  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 2:29:18am

re: #308 Targetpractice

To be fair, if that were the standard, Mike Moore would have to give back the award for Bowling for Columbine.

Moore is sensationalistic, and on occasion has put his political views ahead of factual accuracy, but I don't think for a moment that he is a bigot, and definitely don't think he would allow hatred to be the basis of one of his films.

On the other hand, D'Souza is a racist bigot (a fact that is extremely well-documented, by his own words) whose WND-fed delusions fuel every moment of his works.

310 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 2:40:03am

2016 is a bloody anti-Obama campaign film and the election is over.

311 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 2:49:06am

re: #309 RadicalModerate

Moore is sensationalistic, and on occasion has put his political views ahead of factual accuracy, but I don't think for a moment that he is a bigot, and definitely don't think he would allow hatred to be the basis of one of his films.

On the other hand, D'Souza is a racist bigot (a fact that is extremely well-documented, by his own words) whose WND-fed delusions fuel every moment of his works.

Oh, I'd agree that Mike Moore's not racist or a bigot...he's just an asshole.

312 BongCrodny  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 3:14:25am

re: #305 Kragar

Glenn Beck, Vince Vaughn, Peter Billingsley launch reality show

I look forward with great anticipation to "Old School Pee-Pee."

313 BongCrodny  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 3:24:59am

re: #231 HappyWarrior

"I'm Warren Harding and I approve this message." I always root for the bootleggers. And that was before I found out I had one in my family tree.

Likewise. My grandfather owned several speakeasies in the 1920's, and the story was that he was worth about a half-million $$ back then, which was pretty big money.

Lost it all in 1929 along with a lot of other folks.

At my aunt's funeral last year, one of her granddaughters told the story of how my aunt found a bathtub full of whatever it was that my grandfather was cooking and, thinking it was water, drained the tub!

314 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 3:30:10am

My granddad (who died before I was born) was an immigrant coal miner. He hurt his back working in the mines and took to drinking for the pain.

I am told that he got ahold of some bad hooch back during prohibition and went half-blind over it.

I guess I can assume that one of your relatives had something to do with that...

315 freetoken  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 3:42:53am

Wow. None other than Inhofe (via video) and the Lord High Denier are actually now giving a press conference, full of Marc Morano idiocy. I guess the UNFCCC felt they had to let them give it:

[Link: unfccc4.meta-fusion.com...]

Inhofe goes into a full on wingnut outcry about the UN via video, Obama's "far left green agenda" etc.

For all the problems that the UNFCCC has, and it has very many indeed, the Inhofe/Monckton/Morano circus actually made the Venezuela delegates sound reasonable, and that takes some effort.

They went full on with CLIMATEGATE!! and claiming there has been no global warming during the last 16 years, etc.

316 freetoken  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 3:45:38am

The women in that Inhofe sponsored group is from, get this, the "Texas Eagle Forum", part of the national "Eagle Forum". Yeah, that group.

317 Patricia Kayden  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 3:46:36am

I love Ashley. Would love for her to run but can't see her winning a red red state like Kentucky. Personal attacks are all the Righties have.

318 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 3:48:04am
319 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 3:50:59am

re: #318 Targetpractice

Did he have to surrender all his cookies?

320 BongCrodny  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 3:52:04am

re: #314 Sol Berdinowitz

My granddad (who died before I was born) was an immigrant coal miner. He hurt his back working in the mines and took to drinking for the pain.

I am told that he got ahold of some bad hooch back during prohibition and went half-blind over it.

I guess I can assume that one of your relatives had something to do with that...

Maybe not a *direct* relative, but probably someone kindred in spirit.

Whatever crimes he may have committed (and I suspect there were more than a few), I think he at least partially paid for them in the long run: Alzheimer's got him; he died at 97 but he basically had no idea who he was the last 10 years of his life.

321 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 3:52:23am

re: #319 Sol Berdinowitz

Did he have to surrender all his cookies?

They may have to send him back to the manufacturer.

322 freetoken  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 3:53:02am

Monckton, Morano, and Inhofe have to be sociopaths. They seem to be unable to feel shame or understand when they have done something wrong.

323 freetoken  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 3:57:09am

Monckton is now prattling on about why the World Bank, the IEA, the CIA, etc. are all wrong.

324 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 4:01:42am

re: #255 dragonath

I have a distinct memory of driving with my dad when the news came over the radio about her car accident. I was 11 at the time, and I knew who Jayne Mansfield was. (I mean, she was hot, right?) It was an awful way to go for such a beautiful woman.

The NY Post probably would have run the accident photos, if it had happened this month.

325 freetoken  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 4:06:59am

Yes, this Texas Eagle Forum:
[Link: www.texaseagle.org...]
just stood up in front of the world to (unofficially) represent the US.

326 freetoken  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 4:09:59am

That link I put up in #315 won't get you to the archived video - it's a link to the live webcast.

Monckton, the Eagle Forum woman, are now finished.

Whoever is funding them (Kochs?) must be really afraid that the UN might actually do something.

327 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 4:15:53am

Whoa, awesome, they released the trailer for the new Star Trek film today.

328 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 4:25:38am

They're also going to be including the first 9 minutes of the film as part of IMAX showings of The Hobbit.

329 lostlakehiker  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 4:36:10am

re: #110 ProGunLiberal

If my theory is correct, I will likely be slightly shorter on the age compared to my peers.

I have heard Autism is an auto-immune disease. That might have implications down the road, and the theory seems plausible to me, considering there a number of odd relationships between Autism and other diseases, most notably Rheumatoid Arthritis.

Another friend of mine got Diabetes at 16. From an auto-immune reaction. Her pancreas is more or less dead.

Autism is strongly correlated with occupation of father and mother. Geeks' kids are at risk. Ditto for autism spectrum. Geeks themselves much at risk. It appears to be a matter of the genes that code for systematizing bent of mind going overboard. Not a disease in the usual sense. The genes aren't mutated. Nothings "broken". It's just a deck with too many cards of one suit and thus too few in the others.

330 freetoken  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 4:38:53am

Here's a brief review of Cathy Adams, the person Inhofe had as part of the presentation at the UNFCCC press conference that somehow he arranged to get time in the press conference room:

Cathie Adams Is Back!

[...]


- Adams sees religious diversity as a threat to this country. From an October 1999 TEF letter:

“(W)e must place our faith in the ONE true God, then humble ourselves, pray and seek Him and repent for our sins. Then God will forgive us and heal our land. Do you think that a jealous God will tolerate ‘religious pluralism’ and allow us to come to Him any way we please? Absolutely not!”

- Adams believes that the United Nations is paving the way for the “anti-Christ.”

From a 2000 TEF letter:

“The Bible tells us that in the end times there will be a world government headed by a world leader, called the anti-Christ, who will profess a world religion, but did you ever think you would live in the day when these things would come into being? That is exactly what the United Nations is doing behind the backs of most Americans.”

From a January 1999 TEF newsletter:

“In the future, the anti-Christ will use the pleas for human rights, economic equity and a promise to ‘end all wars’ to found global government. . . . God is not the author of global government, the anti-Christ is, and the UN conspicuously manifests his warmongering spirit.”

[...]

So, Inhofe arranges for someone who thinks the UN is a front for the Anti-Christ be his spokesman at a climate change conference.

I guess the UNFCCC will allow anyone on the press conference schedule.

331 Obdicut  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 4:39:45am

re: #329 lostlakehiker

Autism is strongly correlated with occupation of father and mother..

Can you cite that? The only strong correlation I've seen is paternal age.

[Link: archpsyc.jamanetwork.com...]

332 Obdicut  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 4:42:54am

re: #331 Obdicut

And here's the Nature paper:

[Link: www.nature.com...]

After accounting for random Poisson variation, father’s age is estimated to explain nearly all of the remaining variation in the de novo mutation counts.

333 jamesfirecat  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 4:43:52am

re: #271 Dark_Falcon

Those donors know he can't win and corporate chieftains tend to avoid pouring money into things that will inevitably blow up and hurt them (there are exceptions, see Enron for a famous example).

Or Mitt Romney's presidential campaign for another...

BOOM! ZING!

334 freetoken  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 4:45:24am

re: #332 Obdicut

That's the only known correlation (regarding origination via parents) that I can recall reading about autism.

Note that the Nature entry is about de novo mutations, and not some recombination of traits that may have been in the breeding population for some time.

335 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 4:52:15am

AFAIK, there is no blood test or anything for autism, it is an observed syndrome, I am sure that its prevalence in any group is related to the extent that doctors and therapists are aware of its symptoms.

336 JEA62  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 4:55:20am

The picture doesn't bother me. Not at all. Really.

337 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 4:57:48am
338 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 5:00:08am

So how is the morning going?

339 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 5:06:38am

re: #338 Holidays are Family Fun Time

So how is the morning going?

Got up a little earlier than I wanted, but otherwise pretty good. Temp plummeted like a rock since Monday.

340 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 5:08:49am

re: #339 Targetpractice

Got up a little earlier than I wanted, but otherwise pretty good. Temp plummeted like a rock since Monday.

Not so bad here, a little cooler, but you can still get by with a sweater during the day. Very unusual for Chicagoland.

Dogs got me up early and they went outside, had breakfast and are now back in sleepland.

341 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 5:19:48am

Just learned about this --how cool!

Wonder what our progeny will find in another 1600 years from now.

342 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 5:20:18am

Oh, this could get ugly:

Egyptian Military Orders Protesters Around Presidential Palace To Disperse

The presidency announced that the Republican Guard, whose duties include protecting the palace, had set a 3 p.m. (1300 GMT) deadline for supporters and opponents of President Mohamed Mursi to quit an area they had turned into a battleground.

343 freetoken  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 5:33:27am
344 lostlakehiker  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 5:35:53am

re: #272 prairiefire

[Link: politicalwire.com...]
I think Obama might order a strike on Syria by this weekend.

Talk about risky. Can they be sure that the strike itself won't mix the precursors and lead to a release of nerve gas at the airbase? (Which, no doubt, has civilians living in close proximity.)

345 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 5:41:57am

Still enjoying my vacation in Jerusalem. This afternoon I visited the Mahane Yehuda market and just wandered around. I bought this menorah for Zedushka since we are spending the first night of Hanukkah here before we have to return to the U.S.

The marketplace was jammed with people doing their shopping for Shabbat but it was a lot of fun.

Last night Zedushka and I ate out at this South American meat restaurant that our son-in-law recommended. They made a burger out of pure Brazilian beef which is twice the size of a burger that you would get at a U.S. fast food place. I could only eat about 1/3 of the burger and I had them wrap it up to take home so my daughter can feed her kids for the next week.

346 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 5:55:32am

re: #345 Vicious Babushka

Still enjoying my vacation in Jerusalem. This afternoon I visited the Mahane Yehuda market and just wandered around. I bought this menorah for Zedushka since we are spending the first night of Hanukkah here before we have to return to the U.S.

The marketplace was jammed with people doing their shopping for Shabbat but it was a lot of fun.

Last night Zedushka and I ate out at this South American meat restaurant that our son-in-law recommended. They made a burger out of pure Brazilian beef which is twice the size of a burger that you would get at a U.S. fast food place. I could only eat about 1/3 of the burger and I had them wrap it up to take home so my daughter can feed her kids for the next week.

HOw is the Syria situation viewed in Israel right now?

I'm worried and want you and Zedushka to come home right now!!!

347 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 5:56:56am

re: #343 freetoken

I even got motivated to Page it:

Inhofe and Monckton Bring the Theocratic, Creationist Texas Eagle Forum to the UNFCCC to Deny Climate Change

I'm too tired to get motivated to get upset over it.

I'll have to do it later.

348 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 6:03:39am
349 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 6:04:54am

re: #346 Holidays are Family Fun Time

HOw is the Syria situation viewed in Israel right now?

I'm worried and want you and Zedushka to come home right now!!!

We're fine and everything is cool! No alerts here, the rockets are far away. We went to Rachel's Tomb yesterday. The last time that I visited (in the 1970's), it looked like the picture at that link. Now it looks like this. It is surrounded by the "security wall" and a huge compound has been built around it. Sad.

350 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 6:07:23am
351 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 6:10:17am

I got to play with my camera at a cemetery the other day.

Faithful Friend

and

I couldn't resist because of the name.

352 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 6:30:45am

I think the dogs will let me go back to bed for a while.

Have a good one all!

353 GunstarGreen  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 6:34:05am

re: #69 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Just think how many athiests will be created in the attempt to convert 16% more to Christianity.

Atheists are not created, they are only freed of the final shackle. A christian (or a member of any other monotheistic religion) already refuses to believe in a vast array of gods and goddesses that man has bowed to throughout time. An atheist has simply accepted the lack of that last god as well.

354 Bulworth  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 6:35:48am

Stay classy, Breitbarts.

355 Varek Raith  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 6:38:34am

re: #344 lostlakehiker

Talk about risky. Can they be sure that the strike itself won't mix the precursors and lead to a release of nerve gas at the airbase? (Which, no doubt, has civilians living in close proximity.)

Bet you had no probs with us bombing the shit out of chemical weapons stockpiles during Gulf War 1.
;)

356 Jolo5309  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 6:38:51am

re: #85 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Or Roman Catholic?

According to my evangelical friend, Roman Catholics aren't Christians anyway

357 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 6:39:13am

re: #342 Targetpractice

Oh, this could get ugly:

Egyptian Military Orders Protesters Around Presidential Palace To Disperse

That's already past. Any report on what's happening now?

358 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 6:41:13am

re: #344 lostlakehiker

Talk about risky. Can they be sure that the strike itself won't mix the precursors and lead to a release of nerve gas at the airbase? (Which, no doubt, has civilians living in close proximity.)

That can be solved: Use incendiaries to burn the precursors up. It also will kill some of the base personnel is an extremely ugly way, which should work to demoralize the rest of them.

359 darthstar  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:10:58am

re: #358 Dark_Falcon

That can be solved: Use incendiaries to burn the precursors up. It also will kill some of the base personnel is an extremely ugly way, which should work to demoralize the rest of them.

There's nothing like a little napalm to build relationships. Just try not to hit any civilians...burning children on TV at Christmas...bad optics.

360 Jolo5309  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:11:25am
Then there’s her militant feminism

Someone please define this for me. Does Ashley Judd go around forcing others to do her bidding at gunpoint.

The use of the word militant to describe anyone that has an outspoken opinion from yours leads to a gradual erosion of the word. Soon Ashley Judd will be a feminist terrorist for actually speaking.

361 kirkspencer  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:14:05am

re: #358 Dark_Falcon

That can be solved: Use incendiaries to burn the precursors up. It also will kill some of the base personnel is an extremely ugly way, which should work to demoralize the rest of them.

OK, I understand the sentiment but, why are people so stupid?

If one of our bases were firebombed, would it demoralize our soldiers or strengthen their resolve?

Yeah. So why do we think that soldiers (more or less trained and expecting attack) in a culture that overly prides itself on machismo (not merely brave, but staunch in the face of threat) are going to act differently?

Eventually yes, they break. But it takes more than one attack.

362 Obdicut  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:16:02am

re: #361 kirkspencer

It's basically the modern version of "Johnny Arab doesn't like the taste of cold steel."

363 darthstar  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:19:16am

re: #361 kirkspencer

Yeah. So why do we think that soldiers (more or less trained and expecting attack) in a culture that overly prides itself on machismo (not merely brave, but staunch in the face of threat) are going to act differently?

Because...REAGAN!...and our white phosphorous smells like FREEDOM! as it burns its way to the core of your body...never mind that it's mildly frowned upon by every human rights agency on the planet. How could you not be demoralized by our superior penile prowess?

364 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:19:59am

re: #358 Dark_Falcon

That can be solved: Use incendiaries to burn the precursors up. It also will kill some of the base personnel is an extremely ugly way, which should work to demoralize the rest of them.

The incinerators the US uses to dispose of Sarin stockpiles operate at 1750K (2690F) with prolonged burn times and reincineration of material. US incendiary weapons don't burn that hot or for that long. You'll just detonate, mix and disperse the stuff.

365 Joanne  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:21:35am

re: #291 Sol Berdinowitz

I wondered why Sheldon Adelson ponied up milions for the Gingrich campaign: he obviously did it to split the True Conservative vote in the GOP primaries and assure that Santorum would not be in a position to challenge Romney at the convention.

That makes no sense. Gingrich with his affairs and multiple marriages wasn't going to take the Evangelicals, and if anyone, he would have taken votes from Romney, not Santorum. At least in my mind.

366 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:25:09am

re: #361 kirkspencer

OK, I understand the sentiment but, why are people so stupid?

If one of our bases were firebombed, would it demoralize our soldiers or strengthen their resolve?

Yeah. So why do we think that soldiers (more or less trained and expecting attack) in a culture that overly prides itself on machismo (not merely brave, but staunch in the face of threat) are going to act differently?

Eventually yes, they break. But it takes more than one attack.

It demoralizes in the short term. Long term, it might increase resolve, but napalm attacks on armored vehicles proved such a terror in Vietnam and Desert Storm that crews of other vehicles often dismounted and ran instead of facing the possibility of being burned alive.

It's not just Arabs; All human beings still retain an instinctive fear of uncontrolled fire.

(Edited for clarity.)

367 darthstar  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:26:55am

re: #366 Dark_Falcon

It's not just Arabs; Human beings still retain an instinctive fear of uncontrolled fire.

I'm glad you recognize that Arabs share that quality with human beings.

368 Gus  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:28:02am

We'll show these guys the inhumanity of possibly using chemical weapons by burning them to death!

369 darthstar  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:29:26am

re: #368 Gus

We'll show these guys the inhumanity of possibly using chemical weapons by burning them to death!

Youse all wanna see WMDs? I'll show youse WMDs!

370 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:30:01am

re: #367 darthstar

I'm glad you recognize that Arabs share that quality with human beings.

I didn't mean it that way and you know it!

371 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:31:32am

re: #357 Dark_Falcon

To a point, I do understand this. People were attacking each other, with weapons, including guns, outside the palace. Little bit of an issue. They can do that a little bit away from you.

372 Gus  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:31:52am

re: #366 Dark_Falcon

It demoralizes in the short term. Long term, it might increase resolve, but napalm attacks on armored vehicles proved such a terror in Vietnam and Desert Storm that crews of other vehicles often dismounted and ran instead of facing the possibility of being burned alive.

It's not just Arabs; Human beings still retain an instinctive fear of uncontrolled fire.

Yeah, that would go over well in the world news department. Come on DF. If there were to be an air strike it wouldn't be at the site of the alleged chemical weapons in the first place. It would be a conventional strike at any command or presidential facilities. It would also require an emergency meeting of the UN security council and immediate approval of NATO action including a green light from Russia. Nobody is going to napalm anybody and they're not going to use thermite against anything but armor and specific locations of material.

373 darthstar  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:32:30am

re: #370 Dark_Falcon

I didn't mean it that way and you know it!

You said it that way.

374 Joanne  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:33:01am

re: #330 freetoken

Here's a brief review of Cathy Adams, the person Inhofe had as part of the presentation at the UNFCCC press conference that somehow he arranged to get time in the press conference room:

Cathie Adams Is Back!

- Adams believes that the United Nations is paving the way for the “anti-Christ.”

From a 2000 TEF letter:

From a January 1999 TEF newsletter:

[...]

So, Inhofe arranges for someone who thinks the UN is a front for the Anti-Christ be his spokesman at a climate change conference.

I guess the UNFCCC will allow anyone on the press conference schedule.

I would so love for a guy named Nicolae Carpathia to become UN SecGeneral. That would provide laughter for years.

375 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:37:12am
376 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:37:35am

Deleted due to concern about violation of forum rules.

377 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:39:14am

re: #375 Targetpractice

Whoa, talk about outta left field:

WSJ: Jim DeMint To Leave Senate, Lead Heritage Foundation

Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish.

378 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:39:32am

BBL

379 darthstar  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:41:50am

re: #375 Targetpractice

Whoa, talk about outta left field:

WSJ: Jim DeMint To Leave Senate, Lead Heritage Foundation

Well, Santa came early this year! It'll be great having that backward thinking fuck out of the Senate. Of course, Nikki Haley will have to appoint someone equally crazy if she doesn't want to face a primary challenge herself in 2014.

380 Obdicut  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:45:17am

re: #375 Targetpractice

Whoa, talk about outta left field:

WSJ: Jim DeMint To Leave Senate, Lead Heritage Foundation

Hrm. That may mean the ultra-right-wing dudes are giving up on their attack on Boehner and cashing in instead.

381 Kronocide  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:46:14am

re: #375 Targetpractice

Whoa, talk about outta left field:

WSJ: Jim DeMint To Leave Senate, Lead Old White Bircher Heritage Foundation

There, fixed.

382 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:50:50am

re: #358 Dark_Falcon

That can be solved: Use incendiaries to burn the precursors up. It also will kill some of the base personnel is an extremely ugly way, which should work to demoralize the rest of them.

A couple of real big FAE's would work for that purpose as well. Only problem is escorting the C-130's or C-17's it takes to drop those monsters...

383 BongCrodny  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:51:28am

re: #375 Targetpractice

Whoa, talk about outta left field:

WSJ: Jim DeMint To Leave Senate, Lead Heritage Foundation

I shall mourn the loss by doing the Snoopy dance.

384 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:51:51am

re: #380 Obdicut

Hrm. That may mean the ultra-right-wing dudes are giving up on their attack on Boehner and cashing in instead.

Not so sure about that. Apparently it would only take 16 House Republicans refusing to approve Boehner's speakership in January and there's efforts right to convince them to do so.

385 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 7:53:15am

re: #375 Targetpractice

Whoa, talk about outta left field:

WSJ: Jim DeMint To Leave Senate, Lead Heritage Foundation

All things considered, I can't help but think of the phrase "better the devil you know."

386 Gus  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 8:00:14am
387 lawhawk  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 8:03:57am

If DeMint says that it wasn't about the money, you can be sure that it was totally about the money. Giving up a $174k job for a $1m job? Yeah, we know how it goes.

It's the same kind of argument Rex Ryan made when he said he'd start Sanchez on Sunday - that it wasn't about the money Sanchez was owed. It was all about the money he's owed by the Jets.

388 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 8:04:03am

re: #386 Gus

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Well, Heritage has been writing his legislation for years, might as well take a paycheck from them.

389 Four More Tears  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 8:04:52am

Star Trek Into Darkness trailer. Sherlock finally snaps...

390 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 8:13:02am

re: #389 Four More Tears

Star Trek Into Darkness trailer. Sherlock finally snaps...

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Initial impression: This one is definitely going to be interesting.

391 kirkspencer  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 8:16:43am

re: #375 Targetpractice

Whoa, talk about outta left field:

WSJ: Jim DeMint To Leave Senate, Lead Heritage Foundation

OK, why? [warning: lots of speculation follows]

Look, Jim DeMint is arguably the most powerful Republican senator not in a power position (majority leader, that sort of thing). He is The Voice for the Tea Party Senators.

It isn't money. If he wanted to be wealthy he's had plenty of opportunity. His acknowledged net worth is less than $500,000, while the Senate average is over $7 million.

He's 'only' 61, giving him at least another decade and maybe two of influence as a senator.

So why leave his power position in the Senate for what amounts to being the leader of a gadfly? Yes, the Heritage foundation is big but it's still a gadfly.

It might, despite my protests, be money.

But I'm suspecting something else. And I'm suspecting it was something that as a Senator would hammer him while as a private citizen... not so much. It may be he was given a choice - leave or be exposed. Or it may be he's going so the certain exposure would be less damaging.

Again, it is speculation. It's just leaving for 'gain' when his term has four years yet to run makes no sense.

392 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 8:19:25am

re: #390 Targetpractice

Initial impression: This one is definitely going to be interesting.

Khan or Gary Mitchell?

393 Gus  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 8:24:00am

Whoa!

394 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 8:24:21am

re: #392 William Barnett-Lewis

Khan or Gary Mitchell?

Urban pretty much gave it away a few months back, it's Mitchell. But the overall plot is still a major blank.

395 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 8:28:24am

re: #394 Targetpractice

Urban pretty much gave it away a few months back, it's Mitchell. But the overall plot is still a major blank.

Ah, I haven't been following the rumor mill. Could be interesting as the original was a very important episode for creating the dynamics of "Star Trek." Be fun to see what they do with the "barrier" if they still use it.

396 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 8:30:52am

re: #365 Joanne

That makes no sense. Gingrich with his affairs and multiple marriages wasn't going to take the Evangelicals, and if anyone, he would have taken votes from Romney, not Santorum. At least in my mind.

I do not understand why Sheldon first supported Gingrich and then shifted to Romney. There are two directions to the True Conservative vote, the socon of Santorum and the traditional old TC like Gingrich. Between the two, they often got more votes than Romney, and I believe it was part of Sheldon's plan to keep Romney ahead and prevent a floor fight at the Convention, which would've gotten really ugly..

397 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 8:31:12am

re: #395 William Barnett-Lewis

Ah, I haven't been following the rumor mill. Could be interesting as the original was a very important episode for creating the dynamics of "Star Trek." Be fun to see what they do with the "barrier" if they still use it.

That's just it, unlike previous Trek series, they're actually tying this one to the comic book series IDW is publishing. They've been adapting Original Series episodes to the new universe and the first one was the second pilot episode with Mitchell. Thing is, they never exactly said he was dead.

398 Interesting Times  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 8:38:03am

re: #386 Gus

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399 Gus  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 8:41:37am

re: #398 Interesting Times

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Is it me or are Tweets looking strange?

400 Four More Tears  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 8:42:36am

re: #399 Gus

Is it me or are Tweets looking strange?

Not just you. I've seen it too.

401 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 8:44:35am

Apparently another Trek trailer is set to come out next weekend.

402 Four More Tears  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 8:46:10am

re: #401 Targetpractice

Apparently another Trek trailer is set to come out next weekend.

A Man of Steel trailer is supposed to be coming out soon too.

403 Gus  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 8:49:09am

re: #400 Four More Tears

Not just you. I've seen it too.

Looks OK now.

404 BongCrodny  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 8:51:26am

re: #398 Interesting Times

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How awesome would it be if Colbert took his character to the next level and the race was Stephen Colbert v. Ashley Judd?

405 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 8:51:51am

re: #399 Gus

Is it me or are Tweets looking strange?

They always do till I reload the page and wait & wait & wait for the twitter code to load from twitter.

Personally, I could do without the pretty tweets.

406 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 8:52:08am

re: #402 Four More Tears

A Man of Steel trailer is supposed to be coming out soon too.

Yeah, it's about that time when the movie studios start pumping up their spring and summer releases.

407 Gus  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 8:55:41am

The Fall Of The San Diego Union-Tribune
How A Major GOP Donor Turned A Respected Paper Into A Corporate Shill

408 lawhawk  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 8:56:54am

Awww, Malkin is complaining that Gov. Christie is meeting with President Obama this morning:

This is what leaders do. They take care of the business at hand - meaning making sure that rebuilding funds are assured and that efforts are expedited to make sure that NJ gets what it needs to rebuild from #Sandy. Even if it means crossing the aisle to work with the other side.

When will people like Malkin learn?

Then again, her comments yesterday mirror her support for internment camps without the slightest bit of irony :

409 Gus  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:02:43am

re: #408 lawhawk

Awww, Malkin is complaining that Gov. Christie is meeting with President Obama this morning:

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Governor meeting with president with regards to natural disaster. Weird that. //

410 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:03:56am

re: #408 lawhawk

Awww, Malkin is complaining that Gov. Christie is meeting with President Obama this morning:

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Probably still bitter that Christie's handling of the clean-up effort has netted him enormous support, despite wingnuts having a collective stroke when he dared to appear in the company of President Obama. And that Christie is now the GOP's only real chance at retaining the governor's mansion.

411 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:04:07am

re: #390 Targetpractice

Initial impression: This one is definitely going to be interesting.

It had a bit too much of Dark Knight Rises feel to it. It seemed derivative.

412 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:05:27am

re: #411 Dark_Falcon

It had a bit too much of Dark Knight Rises feel to it. It seemed derivative.

Not sure that speaks to the movie so much as it does the editing of the trailer. Hollywood has a tendency these days to demand a focus on action over any real plot elements.

413 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:05:58am

re: #408 lawhawk

Awww, Malkin is complaining that Gov. Christie is meeting with President Obama this morning:

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That second was just a retweet by her. The content was from Iowahawk, who used to post here before he went clear around the bend.

414 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:06:39am

re: #408 lawhawk

Michelle Malkin @michellemalkin
RT @iowahawkblog: Fence in Detroit and rename it DNC National Park.

People who don't live in Detroit have these weird fantasies about Detroit, for example, that nobody here has a job, much less a high quality automotive job.

415 lawhawk  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:09:23am

re: #413 Dark_Falcon

I understand that it's a retweet, but her posting does indicate her approval of the idea.

416 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:10:07am

re: #414 Vicious Babushka

People who don't live in Detroit have these weird fantasies about Detroit, for example, that nobody here has a job, much less a high quality automotive job.

Given that Malkin also writes for VDARE, in her case I think she's also expressing a desire to fence in black people (who make up most of that city's population).

417 GunstarGreen  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:10:47am

re: #410 Targetpractice

Probably still bitter that Christie's handling of the clean-up effort has netted him enormous support, despite wingnuts having a collective stroke when he dared to appear in the company of President Obama. And that Christie is now the GOP's only real chance at retaining the governor's mansion.

When history is written (or, more likely, compiled from video and audio clips) about the handling of Sandy, I can only hope that there is a section dedicated to the response of the American right wing that plays back-to-back clips of various figures, both political and media, expressing their disapproval of Christie working with the president to do his damn job. It should be immortalized in the psyche of the populace that one of the two realistically available choices for governing parties placed fealty to party so far above duty to country.

418 Jolo5309  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:10:49am

re: #409 Gus

Governor meeting with president with regards to natural disaster. Weird that. //

Well even aside from that, shouldn't they ever meet? In Canada we have a Conservative PM and he will meet with the left leaning separatist premier. I would take him to task if he didn't, after all, it is their jobs!

To make it short, what kind of idiot is Malkin?

419 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:11:14am

re: #415 lawhawk

I understand that it's a retweet, but her posting does indicate her approval of the idea.

No problem. I just wanted to note that in order to note that a nut who got banned from here is in the mix as well.

420 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:12:02am

re: #418 Jolo5309

Well even aside from that, shouldn't they ever meet? In Canada we have a Conservative PM and he will meet with the left leaning separatist premier. I would take him to task if he didn't, after all, it is their jobs!

To make it short, what kind of idiot is Malkin?

A racist one.

421 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:15:16am

re: #418 Jolo5309

Well even aside from that, shouldn't they ever meet? In Canada we have a Conservative PM and he will meet with the left leaning separatist premier. I would take him to task if he didn't, after all, it is their jobs!

To make it short, what kind of idiot is Malkin?

Nuclear-weapons grade.

Quite possibly the most venomous, hateful little ball of batshittery ever. I hope they autopsy her brain when she goes (and I'm censoring myself here) so they can figure out where the short-circuit is.

422 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:16:23am

Apparently Matt Drudge has chosen to dedicate today to the "War on Christmas."

423 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:17:33am

(Sorry, WB-L!)

424 Jolo5309  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:18:14am

re: #422 Targetpractice

Apparently Matt Drudge has chosen to dedicate today to the "War on Christmas."

Is 2016 the first bomb for the War on Christmas?

425 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:19:27am

re: #416 Dark_Falcon

Given that Malkin also writes for VDARE, in her case I think she's also expressing a desire to fence in black people (who make up most of that city's population).

If you pressed her on it in public, she would insist that she was just being ironic or satirical, if you were to address her in private, she would probably tell you it was a great idea...

426 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:19:30am

re: #418 Jolo5309

Well even aside from that, shouldn't they ever meet? In Canada we have a Conservative PM and he will meet with the left leaning separatist premier. I would take him to task if he didn't, after all, it is their jobs!

To make it short, what kind of idiot is Malkin?

A big one.

427 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:20:08am

Hearing that DeMint's leaving the Senate to head the Heritage Foundation. Interesting.

428 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:21:25am

re: #417 GunstarGreen

It's funny how much people root for others to suffer in order to...what I don't even know. Score political points?

Can't say I'm a big Christie fan, but we'd be in much better shape if the rest of the Republicans at least acted more like him. He's belligerent, obviously isn't in the Obama fan club, but he's putting away his ego and party fealty to help his constituents recover from a tragic disaster.

429 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:22:50am

Oz the Great and Powerful looks interesting...

Definitely something different than the usual formula films lately.

430 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:24:36am

re: #423 wrenchwench

(Sorry, WB-L!)

???? I'm missing something. Did I get really drunk and make an even bigger fool of myself than usual?

431 GunstarGreen  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:24:52am

re: #422 Targetpractice

Apparently Matt Drudge has chosen to dedicate today to the "War on Christmas."

Sponsor legislation to force women to bear the children of their rapists: "What war on women?!"

Say 'Happy Holidays' to a stranger of unknown religious status instead of 'Merry Christmas': "WAR ON CHRISTMAS!!!11!11!!!11!"

These people are diseased. There is something wrong with their brains.

432 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:26:03am

Re:Christie. The most pathetic were those who said he should wait to demand aid "until Romney becomes president." Yeah his state is in a state of emergency and you want him to refuse aid simply because you care more about hating Obama and him having the image of hating Obama than actually helping people. I'm still not a Christie fan all and all but if Christie's the face of the Republican party going forward, they could do a lot worse because he's actually capable of acting like an adult and putting party aside.

433 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:27:40am

re: #432 HappyWarrior

Pffft, they'd try that with Romney in office and they'd get laughed at.

"We'll just give them Jersians some tax breaks and they'll be able to pay for it themselves!"

434 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:33:12am

re: #433 Ghost of Tom Joad

Pffft, they'd try that with Romney in office and they'd get laughed at.

"We'll just give them Jersians some tax breaks and they'll be able to pay for it themselves!"

Yeah well wingnut logic you know.

435 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:35:17am

re: #430 William Barnett-Lewis

???? I'm missing something. Did I get really drunk and make an even bigger fool of myself than usual?

You said:

Personally, I could do without the pretty tweets.

And I posted a pretty tweet!

436 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:36:17am

Oh, I see, just that it was a tweet. I thought I'd come off supporting 2016 or something really stupid.

Tweets are just plain text and look weird unless I reload & then wait for the twitter code to load due to my 10 year old dell being dog slow.

437 Slap  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:38:41am

re: #302 Vicious Babushka

Jack's boobs are bigger than Ashley's.

Terminology, people!

Ashley has boobs.

Jack has MOOBS.

At least he's not wearing a mankini.

438 Gus  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:42:27am

re: #422 Targetpractice

Apparently Matt Drudge has chosen to dedicate today to the "War on Christmas."

Obscure property management company bans Christmas tree in obscure facility in obscure town.

War on Christmas!

I also like the totally misleading image of the United States Capitol.

439 efuseakay  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:52:28am

That boy really needs to get laid... and not have to pay for it.

440 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 9:59:55am

re: #439 efuseakay

That boy really needs to get laid... and not have to pay for it.

Strikes me as the kinda guy who would kick a girl out of bed for being an Obama supporter, or even for not loathing him with sufficient intensity.

441 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:01:21am

re: #440 Sol Berdinowitz

Strikes me as the kinda guy who would kick a girl out of bed for being an Obama supporter, or even for not loathing him with sufficient intensity.

Ha, yes that.

442 darthstar  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:07:37am

[Link: www.collegehumor.com...]

Nickelback parody about instagramming everything. Fuck it...I'm guilty.

443 dragonfire1981  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:08:07am

Is anyone truly saddened by the economic reality in America?

Forget trickle down economics, we're living in an era of vaccuum up economics where the elites have been busily sucking up as much wealth to the top as they possibly can.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for running a business and making healthy profit, but when you are selling out your employees, vendors and customers merely so a group of executives and a board of directors can reap millions of dollars, there's something wrong with that.

The ratio of CEO pay to average worker pay in the U.S. is 450:1
In Canada it is 64:1 (Yes, that would be about SEVEN times less).

Other countries are even less than that.

444 dragonfire1981  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:10:26am

re: #442 darthstar

[Link: www.collegehumor.com...]

Nickelback parody about instagramming everything. Fuck it...I'm guilty.

That's awesome. Collegehumor is one of the best humor sites out there. Not just funny, but smart funny.

445 Gus  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:12:51am
446 TedStriker  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:13:17am

Lookie here:

Jim DeMint leaving Senate for Heritage Foundation

Two years into this six-year term, no less...

447 darthstar  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:13:52am

Is it pepper spray season again?

448 darthstar  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:14:32am

re: #446 TedStriker

Lookie here:

Jim DeMint leaving Senate for Heritage Foundation

Two years before he would have had to stand for re-election...

Four years. He isn't due for re-election until 2016.

449 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:14:38am

re: #444 dragonfire1981

That's awesome. Collegehumor is one of the best humor sites out there. Not just funny, but smart funny.

Yeah, they're very clever. One of the best. I like the the ongoing Kim Jong-Un cartoon a lot.

450 GunstarGreen  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:15:15am

re: #443 dragonfire1981

Is anyone truly saddened by the economic reality in America?

Forget trickle down economics, we're living in an era of vaccuum up economics where the elites have been busily sucking up as much wealth to the top as they possibly can.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for running a business and making healthy profit, but when you are selling out your employees, vendors and customers merely so a group of executives and a board of directors can reap millions of dollars, there's something wrong with that.

The ratio of CEO pay to average worker pay in the U.S. is 450:1
In Canada it is 64:1 (Yes, that would be about SEVEN times less).

Other countries are even less than that.

I'm all for "cost-cutting" and "curbing wasteful spending".

The place to start is with the executive class. When you or I fail at our job, we get a pink slip and a boot to the ass. When a CEO fails at their job, they get a check for millions of dollars. You want to know which contracts are bleeding companies dry? It ain't the union contracts, it's the executive contracts.

451 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:15:19am

I guess Jim DeMint thought there was more money to be had in being a full time armchair quarterback.

452 darthstar  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:15:22am
453 Gus  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:16:18am

re: #447 darthstar

Is it pepper spray season again?

[Embedded content]

But, but, people are dying for are freedums overseas and the war on Christmas or something.

//

454 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:16:20am

re: #447 darthstar

Is it pepper spray season again?

KT must be pleased.

455 TedStriker  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:16:38am

re: #448 darthstar

Four years. He isn't due for re-election until 2016.

So noted and corrected.

Reps get four years, Senators get six.

456 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:17:38am

re: #455 TedStriker

So noted and corrected.

Reps get four, Senators get six.

Reps get two.

457 darthstar  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:18:02am

Nobody said there would be math!

458 Gus  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:18:27am

re: #454 William Barnett-Lewis

KT must be pleased.

They wouldn't be getting pepper sprayed if they weren't breaking teh law!

//

459 TedStriker  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:19:42am

re: #456 HappyWarrior

Reps get two.

Oh, FFS...I give up!

///

460 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:21:05am

re: #459 TedStriker

Oh, FFS...I give up!

///

Haha, it's all good.
Reps- 2
President- 4
Senate- 6
Supreme Court- life
Bug up Jim DeMint's ass- eternity.

461 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:22:18am

re: #443 dragonfire1981

Is anyone truly saddened by the economic reality in America?

Forget trickle down economics, we're living in an era of vaccuum up economics where the elites have been busily sucking up as much wealth to the top as they possibly can.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for running a business and making healthy profit, but when you are selling out your employees, vendors and customers merely so a group of executives and a board of directors can reap millions of dollars, there's something wrong with that.

The ratio of CEO pay to average worker pay in the U.S. is 450:1
In Canada it is 64:1 (Yes, that would be about SEVEN times less).

Other countries are even less than that.

I'd like to see maximum compensation in any company be capped at 50:1 including the value of stock and any other "perks" that are not shared by every employee. If Joe Snuffy the CEO is really worth $10,000,000 then the janitor cleaning his office is worth $200,000.

462 Skip Intro  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:28:15am

re: #461 William Barnett-Lewis

I'd like to see maximum compensation in any company be capped at 50:1 including the value of stock and any other "perks" that are not shared by every employee. If Joe Snuffy the CEO is really worth $10,000,000 then the janitor cleaning his office is worth $200,000.

Look, you try doing that and the next thing that will happen is we'll start losing high quality companies like Papa John's Pizza. Is that what you want?

463 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:28:24am

I think the argument is that high CEO pay is needed to attract the "best and the brightest".

Bullshit, it attracts the greediest and slimiest. We saw what sort of people it attractged to banking and finance in past decades...

464 lawhawk  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:29:54am

re: #454 William Barnett-Lewis

OWS is working with the NYPD to help deliver aid and keep parts of NYC safe after Sandy.

465 Killgore Trout  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:30:28am

re: #458 Gus

They wouldn't be getting pepper sprayed if they weren't breaking teh law!

//

Arrests made at Capitol; police blocking entrance for 'structural issues'

A State Journal reporter witnessed one woman being escorted away in handcuffs. State police say no injuries have been reported and said reports that they have used pepper spray are false.

Looks like another fake but accurate story from dishonest activists on twitter.

466 Obdicut  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:30:36am

re: #463 Sol Berdinowitz

I think the argument is that high CEO pay is needed to attract the "best and the brightest".

Bullshit, it attracts the greediest and slimiest. We saw what sort of people it attractged to banking and finance in past decades...

It's just so obviously untrue when other nations manage to have companies that compete successfully with US companies.

467 Killgore Trout  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:31:35am

re: #464 lawhawk

OWS is working with the NYPD to help deliver aid and keep parts of NYC safe after Sandy.

It's nice to see the remnants of OWS doing something positive with themselves.

468 Gus  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:32:09am

re: #465 Killgore Trout

Arrests made at Capitol; police blocking entrance for 'structural issues'

Looks like another fake but accurate story from dishonest activists on twitter.

We're here to help! Fire safety you know. Yep. The same "system" that effectively led to the factory fire in Bangladesh.

469 Skip Intro  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:32:14am

re: #463 Sol Berdinowitz

I think the argument is that high CEO pay is needed to attract the "best and the brightest".

Bullshit, it attracts the greediest and slimiest. We saw what sort of people it attractged to banking and finance in past decades...

That's the same argument used to justify high salaries and benefits for politicians. That hasn't exactly been an unqualified success either.

470 Killgore Trout  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:33:40am

re: #468 Gus
[Link: www.wlns.com...]

Hechanova has confirmed reports of arrests there. Police tell her an unknown number of people charged at officers and were taken into custody for failing to obey a lawful command.

471 Gus  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:34:32am

re: #470 Killgore Trout

[Link: www.wlns.com...]

Obey!

472 GunstarGreen  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:35:15am

re: #463 Sol Berdinowitz

I think the argument is that high CEO pay is needed to attract the "best and the brightest".

Bullshit, it attracts the greediest and slimiest. We saw what sort of people it attractged to banking and finance in past decades...

If "best and the brightest" were true, then salaries in every other position wouldn't be such a race to the bottom.

"Trickle Down" stops at the first trough. The only thing that trickles down after that is the piss of pigs.

473 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:35:45am

re: #463 Sol Berdinowitz

I think the argument is that high CEO pay is needed to attract the "best and the brightest".

Bullshit, it attracts the greediest and slimiest. We saw what sort of people it attractged to banking and finance in past decades...

Let's look at my favorite example of "Best and Brightest": Carly "demon sheep" Fiorina.

1) Nearly destroyed Lucent after the spinoff from ATT.
2) Ran Compaq into the ground, buying and destroying DEC in the process,
3) Committed massive fraud against HP & Compaq stockholders in the HP purchase of the worthless Compaq
4) Ran HP almost into the ground before being given a golden parachute.

I've never met any executive who makes more than $1,000,000 who was worth that much. Entertainers & athleats? Yes. CEO's? Never.

474 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:36:03am

re: #458 Gus

They wouldn't be getting pepper sprayed if they weren't breaking teh law!

//

[Gus points to a picture of protesters]

Gus: Protest Season!

[Killgore rips off the poster to reveal one of the "pepper spray cop"

Killgore Trout: Pepper Spray Season!

[both guys start rip off posters in turn while shouting]

Gus: Protest Season!
Killgore: Pepper Spray Season!
Gus: Protest SEASON!!
Killgore: Pepper Spray SEASON!!
Gus: PROTEST SEASON!!!
Killgore: PEPPER SPRAY SEASON!!!

[Gus tears off a final 'pepper spray season' poster, revealing a poster that proclaims "Trout Season".)

Killgore Trout: Uh oh! [runs away]

475 Gus  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:36:43am

re: #474 Dark_Falcon

[Gus points to a picture of protesters]

Gus: Protest Season!

[Killgore rips off the poster to reveal one of the "pepper spray cop"

Killgore Trout: Pepper Spray Season!

[both guys start rip off posters in turn while shouting]

Gus: Protest Season!
Killgore: Pepper Spray Season!
Gus: Protest SEASON!!
Killgore: Pepper Spray SEASON!!
Gus: PROTEST SEASON!!!
Killgore: PEPPER SPRAY SEASON!!!

[Gus tears off a final 'pepper spray season' poster, revealing a poster that proclaims "Trout Season".)

Killgore Trout: Uh oh! [runs away]

Stabby. //

476 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:40:21am

re: #464 lawhawk

OWS is working with the NYPD to help deliver aid and keep parts of NYC safe after Sandy.

Good to know another way OWS is continuing to do good works in America.

Like with the home mortgages they've been helping with.
Or the toxic debt they buy and forgive.
Or the homeless day shelter the caused to opened in Madison, WI.

No stabby/rapey in sight.

477 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:40:29am

re: #464 lawhawk

OWS is working with the NYPD to help deliver aid and keep parts of NYC safe after Sandy.

The NYPD seeks to curb crime and keep New York City safe. They'll accept help from former enemies to do that. It's happened many a time for them before, and in this case it is a gladly accepted sign that the differences aren't fundamental. Occupy Wall Street (the original New York iteration) has a beef with big business but does not have a fundamental quarrel with the NYPD.

478 Killgore Trout  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:42:47am

re: #476 William Barnett-Lewis

No stabby/rapey in sight.

No pepper spray either. They are behaving themselves, not attacking police officers, not throwing things. They're doing good work and not trying to injure or stab police officers. See how easy that is?

479 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 11:22:41am

re: #477 Dark_Falcon

What happened with this Red Hook Incident.

480 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 11:31:51am

re: #479 ProGunLiberal

What happened with this Red Hook Incident.

Red Hook got smacked by Hurricane Sandy. OWS and the NYPD teamed up to prevent looting and provide disaster relief.

481 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 11:39:34am

re: #480 Dark_Falcon

Oh, was under the impression that some twatwaffle went looting, and pissed off both OWS and NYPD.

482 Joanne  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:20:45pm

re: #375 Targetpractice

Whoa, talk about outta left field:

WSJ: Jim DeMint To Leave Senate, Lead Heritage Foundation

If there were any questions about Heritage being an organization for far right nuts, this cements what is already known.

483 Joanne  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:23:09pm

re: #389 Four More Tears

Star Trek Into Darkness trailer. Sherlock finally snaps...

[Embedded content]

May 17th of 2013?? Say it ain't so!!!

484 Joanne  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:26:26pm

re: #396 Sol Berdinowitz

I do not understand why Sheldon first supported Gingrich and then shifted to Romney. There are two directions to the True Conservative vote, the socon of Santorum and the traditional old TC like Gingrich. Between the two, they often got more votes than Romney, and I believe it was part of Sheldon's plan to keep Romney ahead and prevent a floor fight at the Convention, which would've gotten really ugly..

I still don't see it. Other than the Any White Guy, which goes along with Any Republican, I don't know if it matters which one won. I think he liked Gingrich and then, as with every other republican, went with Romney once it was a given he was getting the nod.


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