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Dinesh D’Souza Interviewed About Totally Not-Racist Anti-Obama Movie

Right wing intellectual titan explains his creative process
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Andrew Goldman interviews wingnut Dinesh D’Souza about his totally not-racist film predicting apocalypse if Obama was re-elected, inadvertent hilarity ensues: Dinesh D’Souza Looks Ahead.

This is what passes for an “intellectual” in today’s conservative movement; here’s a totally not-racist section in which he explains that he just assumed Obama’s Kenyan half-brother would be a “helpless slum kid” looking for a handout.

In your film, you traveled to Nairobi to interview Obama’s half brother, to get him to express frustration that the president hasn’t helped him financially. It had to be disappointing when he wasn’t upset at all.

Initially. Then I realized that this gives the story a more interesting twist. I expected George to be this helpless slum kid who had an outstretched hand. In fact, I find George to be a cunning, self-reliant guy — in a certain respect, a kind of conservative. He’s not looking for a handout. I admired George for that.

D’Souza wasn’t set back for long, though; when he discovered that his totally not-racist assumption was totally wrong, and that George wasn’t mad at Obama for not giving him a handout, he just used that to attack Obama instead. It’s an all-purpose totally not-racist accusation!

You suggest that President Obama may have decided not to support George because of his politics.

That’s right. It may be that Obama doesn’t want to help George because he sees George as an ideological enemy.

Perhaps the best glimpse into D’Souza’s character, though, is when he explains that he “didn’t know it was considered wrong in Christian circles” to get engaged to a woman while still married to another woman.

You recently resigned as president of the Christian-affiliated King’s College after it was reported that you brought a woman to a Christian convention and introduced her as your fiancée when neither of you had actually divorced your spouses. Did you do anything wrong?

I exercised imprudent judgment. In Christianity there is no intermediate status of being separated. I asked an attorney if there is anything problematic with being engaged while separated, and I was informed absolutely not.

You wrote, ‘I had no idea that it is considered wrong in Christian circles.’ I am not a Christian, but I’d guess that it would be high on the list of wrong things.

What I meant was I didn’t know what rule of Christian morality it violates. I recognize that there would be people who might say Dinesh has only met this woman a few months ago, Dinesh is rushing into things. But that is completely different from saying Dinesh is violating one of the Ten Commandments. Imprudent is not the same thing as wrong.

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78 comments

1 TedStriker  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 2:48:00pm

Oh, brother.

Dishonest shithead, thy name is Dinesh D'Souza.

2 Obdicut  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 2:55:10pm

I wonder if he buys his own bullshit.

3 Decatur Deb  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 2:58:25pm

Let's go back to the part where this dimwit was president of a Christian college.

4 Political Atheist  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:01:05pm
The scary thing is a dramatic erosion of American position in the world — its economic, military position, as well as America’s influence. Obama is not the man at the wheel desperately trying to conserve American power, influence and wealth. For ideological reasons, he wants the slipping to continue. He’s actually the architect of it.

Really done with him right there.

5 engineer cat  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:03:37pm

I exercised imprudent judgment...

...didn’t know what rule of Christian morality...

you would exercise prudent judgement to keep your fool mouth shut until such time as you learn something about real christian morality

6 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:03:55pm

D'Souza's whole premise is that Obama is an enemy of the United States, and that's not an exaggeration. This is what he's selling.

7 Decatur Deb  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:06:37pm

My favorite moment in the Florida GOTV was the nice Republican lady telling us to watch his 2016--it would show us the error of our ways. Sadly, I had to interrupt her to help a nice Latino guy fill out his voter registration.

8 stabby  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:06:49pm
This is what passes for an “intellectual” in today’s conservative movement...

Some days I expect right wingers to call Ann Coulter an intellectual.

If you've ever seen her off guard, being interviewed by a doting Bill Maher you realize that she's simply an extremely dim and ill informed airhead.

Back before he, I don't know, changed his medications. Back when he was (in my opinion) the funniest writer on the internet, not a dull, obsessed, far right wing, anger addicted logorrhea victim. Back when he could still mock both left and right wingers for shallowness, Jeff G wrote a very funny (well in context of his other mock interviews) mock interview of Ann Coulter. He knew she was just a stuffed er shirt.

9 wrenchwench  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:10:13pm
To start producing a Republican field that “looks like America” is one way to respond. The group I know best, Asian-Americans, are natural fodder for the party. Most are not only economic conservatives but subscribe to a social ideology that is to the right of Pat Robertson. Yet this is a group that actually is voting for Democrats. There’s something wrong here.

Reality refuses to conform to my descriptions of it!!!

10 erik_t  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:12:18pm

Fidelity: how does it work?

11 engineer cat  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:14:34pm

re: #8 stabby

Some days I expect right wingers to call Ann Coulter an intellectual.

If you've ever seen her off guard, being interviewed by a doting Bill Maher you realize that she's simply an extremely dim and ill informed airhead.

Back before he, I don't know, changed his medications. Back when he was (in my opinion) the funniest writer on the internet, not a dull, obsessed, far right wing, anger addicted logorrhea victim. Back when he could still mock both left and right wingers for shallowness, Jeff G wrote a very funny (well in context of his other mock interviews) mock interview of Ann Coulter. He knew she was just a stuffed er shirt.

i regard coulter as a kind of glorified smartass 14 year old

12 Decatur Deb  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:16:06pm

re: #8 stabby

Some days I expect right wingers to call Ann Coulter an intellectual.

If you've ever seen her off guard, being interviewed by a doting Bill Maher you realize that she's simply an extremely dim and ill informed airhead.

Back before he, I don't know, changed his medications. Back when he was (in my opinion) the funniest writer on the internet, not a dull, obsessed, far right wing, anger addicted logorrhea victim. Back when he could still mock both left and right wingers for shallowness, Jeff G wrote a very funny (well in context of his other mock interviews) mock interview of Ann Coulter. He knew she was just a stuffed er shirt.

Hey--she was the model for a character in a Law N' Order episode. That's almost as good as having a Muppet made of you.

13 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:17:13pm

re: #9 wrenchwench

These minorities are natural Republican voters! Blacks admire hard works! Wetbacks love God! Asians love them some fiscal conservatism! Jews are notoriously tight with their money! And women love a strong man to protect them and provide for them!!! Why aren't they voting for us?!!

//

14 TedStriker  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:17:19pm

re: #3 Decatur Deb

Let's go back to the part where this dimwit was president of a Christian college.

"Was" is the operative word here, since D'Souza couldn't keep his dick out of women that weren't his wife, got engaged to someone else before his divorce to his current wife was finalized, and his RWNJ constituency at King's College found out about it all.

15 blueraven  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:17:44pm

Wouldn't being engaged to another woman while still married, be an immoral act regardless of religion, or even in the absence of religion?

16 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:17:54pm
But that is completely different from saying Dinesh is violating one of the Ten Commandments.

Umm ... about that:

“‘And you shall not covet your neighbor's wife. And you shall not desire your neighbor's house, his field, or his male servant, or his female servant, his ox, or his donkey, or anything that is your neighbor's.’

17 BongCrodny  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:18:50pm

re: #3 Decatur Deb

Let's go back to the part where this dimwit was president of a Christian college.

It's spelled d'imwit.

18 erik_t  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:19:04pm

re: #16 goddamnedfrank

Umm ... about that:

He didn't covet her. He just wanted to fuck her.

Big difference, man.

19 stabby  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:20:47pm

It's strange how some of the right wingers that i remember from the war-blogger days used to be very funny or at least didn't sound stupid - and now they've lost their minds.

Most lost their minds after Obama was elected.

Jeff was lost long before Obama was elected. He stopped writing comedy - he used to be my favorite online writer. His former flaw of endlessly beating up people with half his IQ for imagined transgressions that they weren't actually capable of understanding let alone be guilty of morphed into more common right wing anger and hatred. He seemed to lose his actual intelligence to anger.

Anyone here remember back when Allah Pundit was funny? Remember his Howard Dean comics?

I have no conclusion here, just confusion.

20 A Man for all Seasons  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:21:10pm

re: #15 blueraven

Wouldn't being engaged to another woman while still married, be an immoral act regardless of religion, or even in the absence of religion?

Not according to The Real Housewives of Beverley Hills.
/

21 blueraven  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:22:20pm

re: #20 A Man for all Seasons

Not according to The Real Housewives of Beverley Hills.
/

Ah yes, the new reality based sect of the TV order.

22 dragonath  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:23:04pm

re: #19 stabby

AllahPundit was funny? I'm compelled to dislike the guy because of his stupid name.

23 TedStriker  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:23:28pm

re: #16 goddamnedfrank

Umm ... about that:

re: #18 erik_t

He didn't covet her. He just wanted to fuck her.

Big difference, man.

Heavy on the "covet"...

/George Carlin

24 bronxboy47  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:24:21pm

He's a titan alright, of envy. The dude's radioactive green, and too stupid to be embarrassed about it.

25 Decatur Deb  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:24:22pm

re: #15 blueraven

Wouldn't being engaged to another woman while still married, be an immoral act regardless of religion, or even in the absence of religion?

Maybe that bible college was mail-order, and that DVD went to the wrong address. Damn unionized USPS.

26 BongCrodny  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:28:36pm

From the interview:

I exercised imprudent judgment.

I read that as "I think with my dick."

27 stabby  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:33:46pm

]re: #22 dragonath

The Howard Dean comics were an ongoing series where he captioned pictures of all of the candidates into stories - thought there was a focus on Dean. They were gentle humor and very very funny. Sadly they're gone off the internet.

Jeff G's humor is still archived on his site, though the formatting is slightly messed up. He didn't used to sound like a right wing nutcase, and referred to himself as "southpark conservative". There was plenty of drug and sex humor, making fun of celebrities, political figures, intellectuals, song lyrics, poetry.

Speaking of series this was one I loved there's this [Link: proteinwisdom.com...] The martha stewart prison chronicles... Not sure they're all there though

28 dell*nix  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:45:59pm

Watched the movie "The Scarlet Letter" last night. Perhaps D'Souza might find it educational. Seems to be where the RWNJ want to go back to.

29 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:47:23pm

re: #28 dell*nix

We know he will not read the book. /

30 dell*nix  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:49:01pm

re: #29 PhillyPretzel

He might find the list of hanging offenses interesting.

31 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:51:07pm

re: #30 dell*nix

Was that the version with Demi Moore in it?

32 stabby  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:51:56pm

re: #22 dragonath

Also about Allahpundit's name - you know back then I assumed the best about people and simply assumed that he wouldn't call himself that if he weren't a Muslim or former Muslim.

I don't assume that anymore.

Another one of those assumptions that finally occurred to me was probably wrong was noticing - when Jim Treacher had gone over the edge - it finally occurred to me that his series where he had nonsense postings by a fictional homeless man might have been more mean spirited than dadaist. And I had laughed at those too.

33 dragonath  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:53:23pm

WWEEEEOOOOOOOWWWWEEEEEOOOO ASSHOLE ALERT

George Will: ‘Quite Literally, The Opposition to Gay Marriage Is Dying’

“There is something like an emerging consensus,” Will said, noting voters in three states recently endorsed same-sex marriage initiatives. “Quite literally, the opposition to gay marriage is dying. It’s old people.”

....

But Republican strategist Mary Matalin said there are other issues at play.

“There are important constitutional, biological, theological, ontological questions relative to homosexual marriage, but people who live in the real world say the greatest threat to civil order is heterosexuals who don’t get married and are making babies,” Matalin said.

“That’s an epidemic in crisis proportions. That is irrefutably more problematic for our culture than homosexuals getting married,” she added.

A HEARTY FUCK YOU. THIS NOW CONCLUDES THIS TEST

34 dell*nix  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:53:36pm

re: #31 PhillyPretzel

Think so. It was on one of the cable channels and the gf was watching it.

35 stabby  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:54:45pm

Ah, Allahpundits first blog postings were in the character of Allah himself.

That's legitimate enough. Religion needs mocking.

36 TedStriker  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:54:57pm

re: #33 dragonath

WWEEEEOOOOOOOWWWWEEEEEOOOO ASSHOLE ALERT

George Will: ‘Quite Literally, The Opposition to Gay Marriage Is Dying’

A HEARTY FUCK YOU. THIS NOW CONCLUDES THIS TEST

George Will: "Intellectual" RWNJ.

37 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:57:31pm

re: #33 dragonath

WWEEEEOOOOOOOWWWWEEEEEOOOO ASSHOLE ALERT

George Will: ‘Quite Literally, The Opposition to Gay Marriage Is Dying’

A HEARTY FUCK YOU. THIS NOW CONCLUDES THIS TEST

Be honest, Mary, the heterosexuals who aren't pumping out kids by the dozen who are worrying you are the white folks, because bitter old white folks are all your base consists of now and they're on course to die out within the next decade or two.

38 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:57:38pm

re: #36 TedStriker

George Will: "Intellectual" RWNJ.


the opposition to gay marriage is dying. It’s old people.”

he's correct, no?
The older the demographic the more opposed to gay marriage.

39 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:02:14pm

re: #19 stabby

It's strange how some of the right wingers that i remember from the war-blogger days used to be very funny or at least didn't sound stupid - and now they've lost their minds.

Most lost their minds after Obama was elected.

Jeff was lost long before Obama was elected. He stopped writing comedy - he used to be my favorite online writer. His former flaw of endlessly beating up people with half his IQ for imagined transgressions that they weren't actually capable of understanding let alone be guilty of morphed into more common right wing anger and hatred. He seemed to lose his actual intelligence to anger.

Anyone here remember back when Allah Pundit was funny? Remember his Howard Dean comics?

I have no conclusion here, just confusion.

I noticed the same thing too. I'm sure there are a bunch of reasons. Back then blogging was new, exciting and different. There was a genuine sense of exploration and discussion. Sept 11 sent a lot of people searching for answers, the right was more tolerant at the time and the South Park Conservatives were welcomed into the tent. There were tons of blogs, people with new or interesting ideas. I'm sure that still exists somewhere but it doesn't get much attention. There was money to be made. Guys like AllahPundit lost his sense of humor and his independence by joining Hot Air. He's now paid to write for an audience that hates him and the feeling is probably reciprocal. The blogosphere has been coopted and there's not much independent or innovative thought. The left and right blogs all run the same stories, often originating from the same handful of powerful and well funded "think tanks" of DC beltway insiders or whatever happens to be trending on twitter. The times have changed.

40 dragonath  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:02:23pm

re: #38 sattv4u2

George Will didn't exactly lead the fight for gay rights.

I'm more concerned with Mary Matalin's "hey, I don't know what ontological means, so let's pick on single mothers instead."

41 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:03:08pm

Our climate change denying Alex Jones fan is back with another Gish Gallop.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

42 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:03:25pm
D’Souza wasn’t set back for long, though; when he discovered that his totally not-racist assumption was totally wrong, and that George wasn’t mad at Obama for not giving him a handout, he just used that to attack Obama. It’s an all-purpose totally not-racist accusation!

Mr. President what color is the sky?

Answer A: The sky is Blue.

What an idiot! Everyone knows the sky isn't really blue, it just looks that way during the day due to the absorption and re-radiation of the blue spectrum of sunlight by the atmosphere!

Answer B: The sky appears to be Blue during the day due to the absorption and re-radiation of the blue spectrum of sunlight by the atmosphere, this is known as the Rayleigh scattering.

What an out of touch ivory tower Harvard elitist! Why can't he just say the sky is blue instead of acting like some kind of leftist professor?

Yep, it really has gotten that bad now. :(

43 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:04:45pm

re: #40 dragonath

George Will didn't exactly lead the fight for gay rights.

I never said/ suggested he did.

,,,, Mary Matalin's "hey, I don't know what ontological means

my guess, she does

44 Decatur Deb  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:05:16pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

Our climate change denying Alex Jones fan is back with another Gish Gallop.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

The only Gishes that come to mind are Lillian and her sister. I'm old.

45 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:05:29pm

re: #12 Decatur Deb

Hey--she was the model for a character in a Law N' Order episode. That's almost as good as having a Muppet made of you.

My thought is who would you want to operate that Muppet because you might not get your hand back.

46 TedStriker  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:05:29pm

re: #37 Targetpractice

Be honest, Mary, the heterosexuals who aren't pumping out kids by the dozen who are worrying you are the white folks, because bitter old white folks are all your base consists of now and they're on course to die out within the next decade or two.

And those hetero couples who are having more kids, worldwide, tend to be ethnicities OTW (Other Than White).

In other words, RWNJs get two-for-the-price-of-one: God-fearing white couples are tending to focus on careers and tend to have fewer kids later in life (not as many as in the past), while Scary Brown People (especially outside of the US) tend to have more kids historically IIRC.

47 stabby  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:06:46pm

re: #39 Killgore Trout

Guys like AllahPundit lost his sense of humor and his independence by joining Hot Air. He's now paid to write for an audience that hates him and the feeling is probably reciprocal.

I've never read HotAir even once.

You'll have to explain to me what you mean by "now paid to write for an audience that hates him and the feeling is probably reciprocal".

48 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:06:55pm

re: #44 Decatur Deb

I remember her too. Gee now I feel really old. ::: looking for a cane :::

49 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:07:24pm

re: #44 Decatur Deb

The only Gishes that come to mind are Lillian and her sister. I'm old.

I'll set up a double date

[Link: www.tumblr.com...]

I'll choose Dorothy!!

50 wrenchwench  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:11:50pm
51 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:13:40pm

re: #47 stabby

I've never read HotAir even once.

You'll have to explain to me what you mean by "now paid to write for an audience that hates him and the feeling is probably reciprocal".

Hot Air readers are garden variety wingnuts/Fox News viewers. They hate that AP's an atheist and they get really pissed off every time his opinion doesn't match the Fox News/Glenn Beck mantra. Hot Air readers have launched several campaigns to have him fired in the past. A lot of times I think AP just writes stuff to appease the wingnuts, The readers don't seem to notice but I think he's just mocking them sometimes.
I just checked over at Hot Air. The "headlines" section at the top used to link to interesting news articles and thoughtful (at least in their opinion) blog posts. I don't see a small blogs listed anymore. Just MSM articles and powerhouse wingnut outlets.

52 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:15:34pm

re: #51 Killgore Trout

The "headlines" section at the top used to link to interesting news articles and thoughtful (at least in their opinion) blog posts. I don't see a small blogs listed anymore.

maybe they don't want to monitor it and are afraid of what may be posted

53 dragonath  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:16:27pm

re: #43 sattv4u2

Well then, instead of focusing on the metaphysical ramifications of gay marriage, she should just embrace the fact that people want to live their lives and be left alone.

54 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:18:44pm

re: #52 sattv4u2

The "headlines" section at the top used to link to interesting news articles and thoughtful (at least in their opinion) blog posts. I don't see a small blogs listed anymore.

maybe they don't want to monitor it and are afraid of what may be posted

The headlines are selected by Hot Air staff. They used to link to smaller blogs if someone found a good scoop or something. I haven't seen a blog linked there in a very long time.

55 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:19:44pm

re: #44 Decatur Deb

The only Gishes that come to mind are Lillian and her sister. I'm old.

For reference: Gish Gallop:

The Gish Gallop, named after creationist Duane Gish, is the debating technique of drowning the opponent in such a torrent of half-truths, lies, and straw-man arguments that the opponent cannot possibly answer every falsehood in real time. The term was coined by Eugenie Scott of the National Center for Science Education. Sam Harris describes the technique as "starting 10 fires in 10 minutes."

The formal debating jargon term for this is spreading.[1] It arose as a way to throw as much rubbish into five minutes as possible. In response, some debate judges now limit number of arguments as well as time. However, in places where debating judges aren't there to call bullshit on the practice, like the internet, such techniques are remarkably common.

56 stabby  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:22:07pm

re: #51 Killgore Trout

PJMedia got handed over to Republican functionaries (like Brian Preston) during the run up the election and astro-turfed in my opinion.

I noticed that for a while most of the threads were going into moderation queues after the first hour and the most entries in the the queues never processed. They manage to sanitize the site one way or another. It has been birther/bircher/tea party/sliding-into-racism central for a while. That has bad optics. Of course the actual line they're pushing is Koch bros birther/bircher stuff but they're trying not to SOUND like that's what they are to some extent; to not sound like the Breitbart crowd.

Idk. At a certain level of wrongness it feels like a total waste effort to figure out in what exact way people's brains fail to work. Once you're a Donald Trump or (on the left) George Gallow level bigot/asshole there's no point analyzing what you say beyond "fuckhead!" And that's what they all are now.

57 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:22:17pm

re: #53 dragonath

Well then, instead of focusing on the metaphysical ramifications of gay marriage, she should just embrace the fact that people want to live their lives and be left alone.

She's saying that non-married people that have babies are a GREATER threat than homosexual marriage.

I've heard Obama talk about the importance of an intact family many times

Of all the rocks upon which we build our lives, we are reminded today that family is the most important. And we are called to recognize and honor how critical every father is to that foundation. They are teachers and coaches. They are mentors and role models. They are examples of success and the men who constantly push us toward it.

But if we are honest with ourselves, we’ll admit that what too many fathers also are is missing--missing from too many lives and too many homes They have abandoned their responsibilities, acting like boys instead of men. And the foundations of our families are weaker because of it.

You and I know how true this is in the African-American community. And the foundations of our community are weaker because of it.
[Link: www.ontheissues.org...]

58 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:22:26pm

OT How do you cut and paste on a Mac?

59 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:23:06pm

re: #58 PhillyPretzel

OT How do you cut and paste on a Mac?

You need Cheese to go with it!
/

60 dragonath  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:23:28pm

re: #58 PhillyPretzel

Command-C, Command-V

61 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:24:29pm

re: #60 dragonath

Thanks. I just saw it on a pull down menu.

62 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:25:20pm

re: #54 Killgore Trout

The headlines are selected by Hot Air staff.

So how do you go about doing that,,,conference call??

//

63 stabby  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:28:49pm

I have to get going. Later.

64 dragonath  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:30:14pm

re: #57 sattv4u2

Compare Obama's speech:

"Of all the rocks upon which we build our lives, we are reminded today that family is the most important. And we are called to recognize and honor how critical every father is to that foundation."

to Matalin's words:

"People who live in the real world say the greatest threat to civil order is heterosexuals who don’t get married and are making babies. That’s an epidemic in crisis proportions. That is irrefutably more problematic for our culture than homosexuals getting married..."

First, she begins with an condescending "people who live in the real world", followed by the words "threat", "epidemic", "crisis", and the term "more problematic" (as if gay marriage was a problem).

One of these things is not like the other.

65 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:34:18pm

re: #64 dragonath


First, she begins with an condescending

She may begin with that, but again, her premise and ending is that non-married people having children are a greater threat than gay marriage

66 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:37:23pm

OT (kinda)

her marriage (Mary Matalin's) must be rock solid considering how polar opposite she is to James in philosophy

I salute them both

67 calochortus  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:39:04pm

re: #57 sattv4u2

But the kids of 2 gay guys have 2 fathers. Problem solved.

68 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:41:29pm

re: #67 calochortus

But the kids of 2 gay guys have 2 fathers. Problem solved.

works for me!
I think she's talking more about single parent homes rather than gender though. It is easier for one or the other (sadly, usually the male) to walk if there is no marriage contract

69 calochortus  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:42:13pm

re: #68 sattv4u2

Could be. I didn't read the whole thing.

70 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:44:06pm

re: #11 engineer cat

i regard coulter as a kind of glorified smartass 14 year old

No, she's too nasty to just be a smart ass. She's more like the bully who turns kids lives into a living Hell.

71 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:50:03pm

re: #69 calochortus

Could be. I didn't read the whole thing.

truth be told, neither did I. Just taking her (snipped) comment where she says
" the greatest threat to civil order is heterosexuals who don’t get married and are making babies,” Matalin said.

“That’s an epidemic in crisis proportions. That is irrefutably more problematic for our culture than homosexuals getting married,” she added.

Hyperbole, sure, but she obviously doesn't think gay marriage is a huge issue

72 calochortus  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:52:42pm

re: #71 sattv4u2

Well, at least that's something.

73 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:56:06pm

wow

some truly ugly afternoon NFL games

52-27
58-0

74 Ming  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 6:21:20pm

I'm embarrassed to say, I've actually watched D'Souza's 2016 DVD.

Each and every minute of the video descends into plain absurdity. D'Souza really reaches for the stars in the "here I am on video, insulting myself" category. If you watch the interview with Obama's half brother, George, it's plain to see George smirking at D'Souza, apparently surprised by how messed up D'Souza really is.

For me, the most miserable thing about the video is how it takes deeply personal, raw, heartfelt stuff from Dreams From My Father, and twists them into more reasons to hate Obama. It's very much like eavesdropping on someone's heartfelt psychotherapy, then twisting the person's words, and maliciously changing the context. In addition to the disconnect from reality, there's some real cruelty on display in 2016.

75 stabby  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 10:58:25pm

Back.

One more thought on Jeff G.'s site. So I remember that there's this nuts right wing genius writer. Since I didn't get any sleep last night, he makes me feel even more insecure about my bad writing. God the stuff I wrote today is incoherent (not on this site though).

Anyway so he's become this odd creature, an intelligent erudite tea party nutcase. I have so much experience reading tea party forums with where the average person can't read let alone write that I'm a bit in shock going back through his recent archives.

His comment section isn't QUITE as good as it used to be since he lost his mind, but it's still a lot more literate than most. So here they are spouting all of the usual far right memes and paranoid bullshit, in perfect English with clever literary references.

I feel like I'm being mugged in a back ally by a knife wielding Cary Grant. There's something very wrong with this picture.

76 stabby  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 11:23:18pm

Lesson for today: you can be intelligent and really hate the poor and really feel that your people your family are superior and entitled. It's possible for a brilliant man to think like a modern aristocrat who drips absolute contempt for most of humanity.

I will stop here, it's off topic anyway. Reading more I had a thought it was a bit like reading some taliban member. I've done that sort of thing before, argued with some hater in Pakistan, with a Hezbollah member in Lebanon, with a Hezbollah supporter who's parents sent him to London so he wouldn't end up a thug.

It's like noticing that Cat Stevens became a religious fanatic and repudiated his own music. Fanatics are fanatics even if they used to be sensitive and talented.

77 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 8:03:43am

re: #70 Dark_Falcon

re: #70 Dark_Falcon

No, she's too nasty to just be a smart ass. She's more like the bully who turns kids lives into a living Hell.

She's not the only reason that I am sometimes embarassed to be a Michigan Law grad, but she's the most frequent one.

78 drool  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 11:56:57am

re: #5 engineer cat

He also missed the part about bearing false witness.


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