Monday Night Sci-Fi Short: Tempo
Adjusting the frequencies
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sattv4u2 Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:08:38pm |
heh
Just saw my cousin(s) on TV
They're New England Patriot season ticket holders
HI COUSIN ALICE,,, HI COUSIN BUDDY!!!!
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Charles Johnson Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:10:52pm |
In the LGF Pages posting window, there's a new option to either "Publish" or "Save as Draft". This replaces the old checkbox labeled "Visible" and should be clearer.
When you "Save as Draft," you can then go to your LGF Pages Dashboard and continue working on the Page. When you're ready to publish it, just change its status from 'draft' to 'published' and it will show up as your most recent Page.
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Usually refered to as anyways Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:11:06pm |
re: #2 sattv4u2
heh
Just saw my cousin(s) on TV
They're New England Patriot season ticket holders
HI COUSIN ALICE,,, HI COUSIN BUDDY!!!!
You should be able to type some text over the broadcast.
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b_sharp Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:12:09pm |
re: #3 Charles Johnson
In the LGF Pages posting window, there's a new option to either "Publish" or "Save as Draft". This replaces the old checkbox labeled "Visible" and should be clearer.
When you "Save as Draft," you can then go to your LGF Pages Dashboard and continue working on the Page. When you're ready to publish it, just change its status from 'draft' to 'published' and it will show up as your most recent Page.
Thanks Charles. That's much more intuitive.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:12:27pm |
re: #4 Usually refered to as anyways
You should be able to type some text over the broadcast.
I actually can
However, ESPN would be non to pleased (and neither would my boss tomorrow when ESPN lights him up!!!))
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sattv4u2 Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:18:58pm |
re: #4 Usually refered to as anyways
This is (one of) the unit we use to put graphic s over live video
[Link: www.avid.com...]
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Usually refered to as anyways Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:19:35pm |
re: #6 sattv4u2
I actually can
Go on, you can doo iiit.
Tell them you don't know anyone called Alice or Buddy.
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Usually refered to as anyways Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:20:17pm |
re: #7 sattv4u2
This is (one of) the unit we use to put graphic s over live video
[Link: www.avid.com...]
Very nice.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:20:20pm |
re: #8 Usually refered to as anyways
Go on, you can doo iiit.
Tell them you don't know anyone called Alice or Buddy.
I would, but there's this little thing i've become attached to
Called a paycheck!!
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Usually refered to as anyways Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:21:09pm |
re: #10 sattv4u2
I would, but there's this little thing i've become attached to
Called a paycheck!!
I hope its worth the hours you do.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:22:17pm |
re: #3 Charles Johnson
In the LGF Pages posting window, there's a new option to either "Publish" or "Save as Draft". This replaces the old checkbox labeled "Visible" and should be clearer.
When you "Save as Draft," you can then go to your LGF Pages Dashboard and continue working on the Page. When you're ready to publish it, just change its status from 'draft' to 'published' and it will show up as your most recent Page.
great idea!
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Stanghazi Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:23:12pm |
re: #6 sattv4u2
I actually can
However, ESPN would be non to pleased (and neither would my boss tomorrow when ESPN lights him up!!!))
At least you can save the screen shot & send to them? Add the text then & freak them out!!
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sattv4u2 Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:23:27pm |
re: #11 Usually refered to as anyways
I hope its worth the hours you do.
Moneywise, yeah
What it's cost in terms of lost time with my family (not seeing my son in soccer tourneys,, school functions,, missed birthdays... Christmas mornings when he was little) not so much
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sattv4u2 Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:24:38pm |
re: #13 Stanghazi
At least you can save the screen shot & send to them? Add the text then & freak them out!!
Yeah. I've already frozen the image of them in another device we have here (an A/V Synchronizer) and I'll do something with it later
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engineer cat Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:24:44pm |
re: #8 Usually refered to as anyways
Go on, you can doo iiit.
Tell them you don't know anyone called Alice or Buddy.
the cat did it that's what i allus say
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Usually refered to as anyways Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:24:55pm |
re: #14 sattv4u2
Moneywise, yeah
What it's cost in terms of lost time with my family (not seeing my son in soccer tourneys,, school functions,, missed birthdays... Christmas mornings when he was little) not so much
The time/money issue is a hard balance to get right.
Sorry to read about your split holidays.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:25:11pm |
I'm so pissed-off. I stopped by the store (in which I used to work) tonite and talked with two younger co-workers. They both told me about a manager (I also worked with) that they were having problems with --discrimination. I was so shocked --this is a guy I thought was actually a cool christian. Of course, he was always cool with me. I would report anything I knew to be illegal.
They aren't as old or wise or have the experience on how to handle the situation. I emailed a friend of mine who is an attorney to ask for perspective.
Beware of anyone who wears their faith on their sleeve.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:25:13pm |
re: #13 Stanghazi
At least you can save the screen shot & send to them? Add the text then & freak them out!!
The NFL is extremely hostile to that sort of thing. They want to make sure they control any TV images of all games.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:26:06pm |
re: #14 sattv4u2
Moneywise, yeah
What it's cost in terms of lost time with my family (not seeing my son in soccer tourneys,, school functions,, missed birthdays... Christmas mornings when he was little) not so much
Game is already a blow out..Who is going to stop the Pats from going to the Superbowl again?
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:26:31pm |
re: #17 Usually refered to as anyways
The time/money issue is a hard balance to get right.
Sorry to read about your split holidays.
I've found that in life one either has one or the other.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:26:36pm |
re: #17 Usually refered to as anyways
The time/money issue is a hard balance to get right.
Sorry to read about your split holidays.
I actually have ALL of Christmas off this year!!
(someone screwed something up ,,, shhhhhH!!!!!)
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:27:15pm |
re: #18 Holidays are Family Fun Time
I'm so pissed-off. I stopped by the store (in which I used to work) tonite and talked with two younger co-workers. They both told me about a manager (I also worked with) that they were having problems with --discrimination. I was so shocked --this is a guy I thought was actually a cool christian. Of course, he was always cool with me. I would report anything I knew to be illegal.
They aren't as old or wise or have the experience on how to handle the situation. I emailed a friend of mine who is an attorney to ask for perspective.
Beware of anyone who wears their faith on their sleeve.
Warn them to be careful, though. My sister got burned by a discriminatory manager a few years back. Even when its clear to you that they're in the wrong, it may not be an easy thing to prove.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:27:38pm |
re: #19 Dark_Falcon
The NFL is extremely hostile to that sort of thing. They want to make sure they control any TV images of all games.
They're actually pretty liberal to work with. As long as you ask permission and tell them what it's for, they're all for getting their brand out there any way they can
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:28:36pm |
re: #20 A Man for all Seasons
Game is already a blow out..Who is going to stop the Pats from going to the Superbowl again?
The Broncos.
Dream Super Bowl: Denver vs. New York. It would go down in history as "The Manning Bowl".
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sattv4u2 Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:30:28pm |
re: #25 Dark_Falcon
The Broncos.
Dream Super Bowl: Denver vs. New York. It would go down in history as "The Manning Bowl".
And the day before, they could do the Jaguars and the Chiefs (both are 2-11 right now) They could call it The Toilet Bowl!
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b_sharp Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:31:46pm |
re: #22 sattv4u2
I actually have ALL of Christmas off this year!!
(someone screwed something up ,,, shhhhhH!!!!!)
You deserve it.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:32:45pm |
re: #23 Dark_Falcon
Warn them to be careful, though. My sister got burned by a discriminatory manager a few years back. Even when its clear to you that they're in the wrong, it may not be an easy thing to prove.
They know. That's why I emailed my friend. She works with class action suits.
I haven't and probably won't advise them to do anything, I don't think it's my place. Just pisses me off.
No one ever said or did anything in front of me while I worked there because they knew I wouldn't stand for it and wasn't afraid of losing my job. Two young girls who are vunerable are the targets. By someone who is supposed to be a Christian! I am so pissed I could spit.
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Gus Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:32:48pm |
Let me guess. The recently blocked posted something about Génération Identitaire? Found some video of that over at Livecreeps, I mean Liveleak.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:33:40pm |
re: #25 Dark_Falcon
The Broncos.
Dream Super Bowl: Denver vs. New York. It would go down in history as "The Manning Bowl".
I always dreamed of a Colts vs. Giants Superbowl. The biggest hyped game of all time. Pat's are really good this year..They played Denver already this year. Denver was crying for mercy
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b_sharp Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:33:45pm |
I need to know if my new post comes off as humorous, sarcastic, angry or bitter. Anybody able to give me a hand with that by reading it and giving me feedback?
Please?
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sattv4u2 Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:35:33pm |
re: #32 b_sharp
I need to know if my new post comes off as humorous, sarcastic, angry or bitter. Anybody able to give me a hand with that by reading it and giving me feedback?
Please?
Actually, a tad of all of the above!!
leave that one up, but then, I would let it go! You've made your point (and very well, I must say)
Any more and you'll look stalkish, imho
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Stanghazi Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:35:56pm |
re: #20 A Man for all Seasons
Game is already a blow out..Who is going to stop the Pats from going to the Superbowl again?
THE CHARGERS! hahaha, just joking. I rag on my co-worker Charger fans every Monday. Today was "Norv always pulls it off - get ready for the playoffs"
Looking like another blackout on TV.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:36:11pm |
re: #32 b_sharp
I need to know if my new post comes off as humorous, sarcastic, angry or bitter. Anybody able to give me a hand with that by reading it and giving me feedback?
Please?
I thought it was funny..Add some more satire and go all onion on us!
Great job!
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:36:53pm |
re: #32 b_sharp
I need to know if my new post comes off as humorous, sarcastic, angry or bitter. Anybody able to give me a hand with that by reading it and giving me feedback?
Please?
sure if you can give me a link. I'm can't figure anything out anymore.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:40:08pm |
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:42:43pm |
I'm going to zone out with my audio book.
Have a great evening all!
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b_sharp Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:43:53pm |
re: #33 sattv4u2
Actually, a tad of all of the above!!
leave that one up, but then, I would let it go! You've made your point (and very well, I must say)
Any more and you'll look stalkish, imho
I was hoping it didn't show any bitterness and little anger. I really have trouble analyzing the tenor of my own posts.
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b_sharp Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:44:26pm |
re: #36 Holidays are Family Fun Time
sure if you can give me a link. I'm can't figure anything out anymore.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:44:30pm |
re: #31 A Man for all Seasons
I always dreamed of a Colts vs. Giants Superbowl. The biggest hyped game of all time. Pat's are really good this year..They played Denver already this year. Denver was crying for mercy
Denver has gotten a lot better as the season has gone on. As ever, Peyton Manning must receive much of the credit for this, as his ability to act as a force multiplier for his teammates is astounding.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:47:21pm |
re: #39 b_sharp
I was hoping it didn't show any bitterness and little anger. I really have trouble analyzing the tenor of my own posts.
we all do
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Gus Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:48:35pm |
re: #37 Charles Johnson
It was an article by this guy.
These are the weirdos I was just doing some quick searching on. Translation, "Generation of National Identity." They claim not to be racists but they talk about maintaining a France for its "traditional people." They are also against diversity, multiculturalism and also think the Mooslims are taking over France. The usual. French wingnuts. This group looks well financed and seems to be targeting a young demographic.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:48:51pm |
re: #41 Dark_Falcon
Denver has gotten a lot better as the season has gone on
All the good teams do (barring major injury to key players)
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Kronocide Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:50:47pm |
re: #43 Gus
Those who cry racism are the real racists but those who wrap it in high brow intellectualism are not racists.
(scratches head, laughs)
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Gus Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:51:25pm |
From October.
Latest update: 21/10/2012
French far-right group storms site of new mosque
Around 60 members of a French far-right group occupied the site of a future mosque on Saturday to protest against the influence of Islam in France. Their act was widely condemned by politicians and Muslim groups.
By France3 / Katharyn GILLAM (video)Around sixty members of an extreme right-wing group stormed the site of a future mosque in France on Saturday, to protest against what they see as Islam's increasing influence in the country.
According to French media, protesters from a group called Generation Identity occupied the building site in a suburb of the town of Poitiers, western France, at around 6am.
They climbed onto the building's roof and displayed a banner marked with “732 generation identity” in reference to the year 732, when Charles Martel halted the advance of the invading Muslim army to the north of Poitiers.
The group makes their views clear on their website, which bears the statement: “We do not want more immigration from outside Europe or new mosque construction on French soil”.
Continues.
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Gus Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:52:41pm |
re: #45 Kronocide
Those who cry racism are the real racists but those who wrap it in high brow intellectualism are not racists.
(scratches head, laughs)
We are not racist we just want France to be for white Christian native French!
//
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:56:54pm |
re: #46 Gus
From October.
Latest update: 21/10/2012
French far-right group storms site of new mosque
Maintaining French culture is more easily done by outreach than by occupation. Outreach often leads to other people embracing or at least respecting your culture, whereas Killgore would remind us that occupation leads to rapy-stabby*.
*: The last sentence should not be read to imply that Occupy Wall street is in any way as bad as Generation Identity. OWS is about economics, whereas GenId is about bigotry.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:57:25pm |
re: #44 sattv4u2
Denver has gotten a lot better as the season has gone on
All the good teams do (barring major injury to key players)
The only reason I like the Bronco's is because of Peyton Manning. I'm a huge fan.
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Kronocide Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:58:06pm |
re: #47 Gus
We are not racist we just want France to be for white Christian native French!
//
You're racist for calling racists racist you racisty racistator.
Maybe minorities just need to make better decisions.
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Interesting Times Mon, Dec 10, 2012 7:01:37pm |
re: #3 Charles Johnson
In the LGF Pages posting window, there's a new option to either "Publish" or "Save as Draft". This replaces the old checkbox labeled "Visible" and should be clearer.
When you "Save as Draft," you can then go to your LGF Pages Dashboard and continue working on the Page. When you're ready to publish it, just change its status from 'draft' to 'published' and it will show up as your most recent Page.
Just one question: what timestamp does it end up with? The one when you first created it, or the one when you switched it from "draft" to "publish"? The reason I never used the visible vs. hidden trick to save pages-in-progress was because I was afraid that, if I started it and then set it to "visible" two days later, it would show as a two-day-old page.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Dec 10, 2012 7:04:36pm |
re: #51 Interesting Times
The article's timestamp will be the time when you first published it. So if you save it as a draft and publish it later, it will show up in Recent Pages even if you publish it severals days later.
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Interesting Times Mon, Dec 10, 2012 7:10:10pm |
re: #52 Charles Johnson
The article's timestamp will be the time when you first published it. So if you save it as a draft and publish it later, it will show up in Recent Pages even if you publish it severals days later.
Yay!
There goes another one of freetoken's "this page would take too long" excuses ;)
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Gus Mon, Dec 10, 2012 7:11:59pm |
re: #48 Dark_Falcon
Maintaining French culture is more easily done by outreach than by occupation. Outreach often leads to other people embracing or at least respecting your culture, whereas Killgore would remind us that occupation leads to rapy-stabby*.
*: The last sentence should not be read to imply that Occupy Wall street is in any way as bad as Generation Identity. OWS is about economics, whereas GenId is about bigotry.
Prejudice, hatred and bigotry all prevent people from communicating thus preventing dialogue. It usual takes a few small steps at first. France was never an island to other European nationalities. Neither were they shy of spreading their DNA under the sword during their colonial days. Looking back of course won't fix things.
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Bubblehead II Mon, Dec 10, 2012 7:13:16pm |
Night Lizards. Been a interesting day Just remember. The Lurker knows.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 10, 2012 7:18:22pm |
re: #54 Gus
Prejudice, hatred and bigotry all prevent people from communicating thus preventing dialogue. It usual takes a few small steps at first. France was never an island to other European nationalities. Neither were they shy of spreading their DNA under the sword during their colonial days. Looking back of course won't fix things.
No, it wouldn't. And spreading DNA isn't a fix now, given that the challenges posed by Radical Islam are at bedrock about culture, not race. The key is to defend the equality and liberty of all French citizens. Do that and fraternity will likely follow in due course.
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Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Dec 10, 2012 7:19:53pm |
re: #15 sattv4u2
Yeah. I've already frozen the image of them in another device we have here (an A/V Synchronizer) and I'll do something with it later
Some nice text in a computer-y font about drone targeting perhaps?
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Gus Mon, Dec 10, 2012 7:33:57pm |
re: #56 Dark_Falcon
No, it wouldn't. And spreading DNA isn't a fix now, given that the challenges posed by Radical Islam are at bedrock about culture, not race. The key is to defend the equality and liberty of all French citizens. Do that and fraternity will likely follow in due course.
Right, but I'm thinking about normal, everyday French citizen who identify as Muslim. It doesn't do any good if our idea of dialogue is bringing up radical-Islam at every turn. We have things in common. That's what we should talk about. Short a radical change in French government I don't see them abandoning the rights of these people.
Actually mixing some DNA helps if you knows what I mean.
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Gus Mon, Dec 10, 2012 7:52:54pm |
I was in a Rite-Aid once in the Haight. There was an armed robbery while I was there. I saw the gun. I like armed guards. Not sure if they had one there.
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Gus Mon, Dec 10, 2012 7:53:45pm |
Plus at a Walmart what? You might be sitting on 20,000 grand sometimes?
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Stanghazi Mon, Dec 10, 2012 7:56:39pm |
How beautiful these photos are.Look at all the love!buzzfeed.com/mjs538/60-mome… #LGBTQ #MarriageEquality
— Minna Hong (@asiangrrlMN) December 11, 2012
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Usually refered to as anyways Mon, Dec 10, 2012 7:57:22pm |
US intelligence agencies map China's rise
An American intelligence report predicts China will overtake the US as the world's biggest economy within the next two decades, as demand for food and water rises and the global balance of power shifts to Asia.
The 140-page Global Trends 2030 report says Asia will become more powerful than North America and Europe combined, as technology, resources and population growth alter the global balance of power.
The report has been prepared by the National Intelligence Council, the analytical arm of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
It combines the thoughts of the 16 intelligence agencies in the US along with foreign and private experts.
Although it is not supposed to predict the future, it is supposed to help US politicians plan for the best and worst scenarios.
"I think the US has to do a lot more thinking about the future, and incorporating that in the decision-making process," principal author Dr Matthew Burrows said.
"If you go from crisis to crisis you increase your risk of going off the rails."
The report says China will surpass the US as the largest economy in the 2020s and that by 2030 India could be the rising economic powerhouse that China is seen to be today.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Dec 10, 2012 7:59:57pm |
I think this is funny but maybe I'm just a sucker for the Dave Rabbit delivery
True Facts About Baby Echidnas
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Usually refered to as anyways Mon, Dec 10, 2012 8:01:12pm |
re: #67 Usually refered to as anyways
Also from the article...
The report says Asia will overtake North America and Europe combined in global power as its GDP, population, military spending and technological investment surpasses the West's, but that the US will remain what it calls "first among equals".
And it warns that a "cyber arms race" is likely to occur as countries try to defend their infrastructure.
By 2030, the report says, 60 per cent of the world's population will live in cities.
The demand for food will have risen by 35 per cent and demand for water will outstrip current sustainable supplies, making water a likely cause of regional conflicts, particularly in South Asia and the Middle East.
Quite an admission, might get some attention.
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Stanghazi Mon, Dec 10, 2012 8:09:04pm |
re: #70 Gus
First the elves, then the marriages. I'm exceptionally emotional & happy right now.
Internet induced emotion. Got it.
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Gus Mon, Dec 10, 2012 8:09:46pm |
re: #69 Usually refered to as anyways
Also from the article...
Quite an admission, might get some attention.
China has a population of 1,344,130,000. The USA has a population of 311,591,917. Theoretically China would have to be the richest nation by sheer per-capita income and wealth. There isn't much the USA "could do." American's will get the carrot and the stick here. Again. More corporatism and expanded militarism paid for by the middle class.
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Gus Mon, Dec 10, 2012 8:11:05pm |
China is about to kick your ass in GDP!
What should we do captain?
Build more aircraft carriers and ship more jobs to China.
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prairiefire Mon, Dec 10, 2012 8:12:57pm |
The current SnorgTees model looks like she had rickets as a child. Scary.
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Usually refered to as anyways Mon, Dec 10, 2012 8:13:53pm |
re: #72 Gus
China has a population of 1,344,130,000. The USA has a population of 311,591,917. Theoretically China would have to be the richest nation by sheer per-capita income and wealth. There isn't much the USA "could do." American's will get the carrot and the stick here. Again. More corporatism and expanded militarism paid for by the middle class.
I feel the acknowledgement will make many Americans very angry.
It will be 'another loss' courtesy of Mr Obama.
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Gus Mon, Dec 10, 2012 8:18:57pm |
re: #75 Usually refered to as anyways
I feel the acknowledgement will make many Americans very angry.
It will be 'another loss' courtesy of Mr Obama.
The people that are angry at Obama will remain angry at Obama. It's is like energy or momentum. ODS is a body in motion.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Mon, Dec 10, 2012 8:21:11pm |
re: #65 Stanghazi
[Embedded content]
Heh. I'm happy for them, and some of those images are joyous, but I still can't really look at two dudes kissing...
Same-sex couples at the altar is such a new image in our culture. It's not often that something new happens in this world!
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sattv4u2 Mon, Dec 10, 2012 8:24:01pm |
re: #68 Killgore Trout
I think this is funny but maybe I'm just a sucker for the Dave Rabbit delivery
True Facts About Baby Echidnas[Embedded content]
Yeah, but you need at least 3, 4 of them for a decent meal!!
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Stanghazi Mon, Dec 10, 2012 8:24:18pm |
re: #77 Pawn of the Oppressor
Heh. I'm happy for them, and some of those images are joyous, but I still can't really look at two dudes kissing...
Same-sex couples at the altar is such a new image in our culture. It's not often that something new happens in this world!
Glad you looked!! Yes, it can be different for some, but love is love is love.
Not enough around, celebrate when you can.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 10, 2012 8:29:55pm |
re: #63 Gus
Plus at a Walmart what? You might be sitting on 20,000 grand sometimes?
Likely more on busy days. I know that the Officemax I worked at once had a 12 grand cash pickup. Most people used credit there, but the store still routinely had thousands in its safe.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Dec 10, 2012 8:30:53pm |
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Killgore Trout Mon, Dec 10, 2012 8:31:32pm |
re: #78 sattv4u2
Yeah, but you need at least 3, 4 of them for a decent meal!!
Delicious blood flavored gummy bears.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Dec 10, 2012 8:43:51pm |
re: #81 Killgore Trout
I deeply regret my actions during my troubled youth. I was immature and bitter. Foster homes will do that to you. That's no excuse.
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Gus Mon, Dec 10, 2012 8:45:48pm |
re: #80 Dark_Falcon
Likely more on busy days. I know that the Officemax I worked at once had a 12 grand cash pickup. Most people used credit there, but the store still routinely had thousands in its safe.
In California they also sell liquor. A lot of these place handle cash. A good night at a liquor store can net $2,500 a night. You can't buy liquor with food stamps. Obviously. Half is cash. Do a 10X with a Wal-Mart and you're looking at $12,500 minimum. Anyway. In most towns today Wal-Mart is the center of the universe. They have clothing, food, dentists, eyeglasses, and pharmacy. There's always a beauty salon too. America is Wal-Mart. Minimum wage isn't even enough for people to make a living. A lot of people being put up in motels too. Lot of traveling workers. Other community cultural centers in America include McDonald's, Burger King, and Starbucks. Truck stops, gas stations, and convenience stores are next.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Dec 10, 2012 8:59:17pm |
and on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons
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bratwurst Mon, Dec 10, 2012 9:01:18pm |
The latest Zionist animal agent has been apprehended!
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engineer cat Mon, Dec 10, 2012 9:01:54pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Dec 10, 2012 9:02:02pm |
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Gus Mon, Dec 10, 2012 9:06:02pm |
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jaunte Mon, Dec 10, 2012 9:06:33pm |
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jaunte Mon, Dec 10, 2012 9:15:26pm |
Does Biting Your Nails Secretly Defund Tiny Endangered Salamanders?
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engineer cat Mon, Dec 10, 2012 9:26:32pm |
re: #94 jaunte
Does Biting Your Nails Secretly Defund Tiny Endangered Salamanders?
a few minutes with that and all headlines sound like dada
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jaunte Mon, Dec 10, 2012 9:28:01pm |
re: #95 engineer cat
Who Paid Al Gore To Endanger Kale Farmers?
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Mon, Dec 10, 2012 9:35:31pm |
re: #94 jaunte
Scientists: Are Dolphin Orgasms Killing Public Lands?
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Mon, Dec 10, 2012 9:40:51pm |
re: #97 watching you tiny alien kittens are
Scientists: Are Dolphin Orgasms Killing Public Lands?
Does Watching Cat Videos Endanger Your Liver?
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engineer cat Mon, Dec 10, 2012 9:40:57pm |
re: #96 jaunte
Who Paid Al Gore To Endanger Kale Farmers?
only some minor modifications to the algorithm and database and we could have the world nut daily headline generator
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jaunte Mon, Dec 10, 2012 9:41:54pm |
Is Your Favorite Greek Yogurt Sliming The Environmental Protection Agency?
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Mon, Dec 10, 2012 9:42:15pm |
re: #98 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne
Does Watching Cat Videos Endanger Your Liver?
Is President Obama Really About to Upset the Last White Tiger?
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darthstar Mon, Dec 10, 2012 10:02:18pm |
92 year old Madeira for dessert...yeah, this shit tasted really fucking good.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Dec 10, 2012 10:05:17pm |
re: #102 darthstar
92 year old Madeira for dessert...yeah, this shit tasted really fucking good.
Very nice
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darthstar Mon, Dec 10, 2012 10:10:19pm |
re: #103 A Man for all Seasons
Very nice
The veal shank was pretty good too. Love this restaurant. Used to eat there regularly until we moved to Half Moon Bay. Turned a friend onto it (whom we went with tonight) and he's become their most frequent customer. The Madeira was a treat from a friend of his who was also dining in the restaurant. He sent a 1910, a 1920(pictured), a 1926, and a 1960. I had the '20 (sweet). The 1910 was very dry - totally different palate - and my second favorite of the four.
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darthstar Mon, Dec 10, 2012 10:15:05pm |
Here's some Ray Wylie Hubbard - because you people deserve nothing but the best. Pure genius...
And probably the most tongue-in-cheek country song ever...
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Kragar Mon, Dec 10, 2012 10:16:37pm |
Oh Bryan...
Gays already have full marriage equality: can marry one adult, non-relative member of opposite sex like everybody else.— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) December 10, 2012
SCOTUS takes on DOMA, Prop 8, could lead to the disenfranchisement of entire United States. My column: afa.net/Blogs/BlogPost...— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) December 10, 2012
Will SCOTUS destroy republican form of government and democracy in one s...: youtu.be/c1oWqnii7uU via @youtube— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) December 10, 2012
Will SCOTUS disenfranchise the entire United States?: youtu.be/pHh0Vb4fVBY via @youtube— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) December 10, 2012
Somebody is ascared.
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darthstar Mon, Dec 10, 2012 10:17:57pm |
re: #106 Kragar
Oh Bryan...
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Somebody is ascared.
That man needs to change his butt-plug.
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engineer cat Mon, Dec 10, 2012 10:23:45pm |
Gays already have full marriage equality: can marry one adult, non-relative member of opposite
you can have that zero tax rate you want right now - just hand over all the money you make to me
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Kragar Mon, Dec 10, 2012 10:36:18pm |
re: #108 engineer cat
Gays already have full marriage equality: can marry one adult, non-relative member of opposite
you can have that zero tax rate you want right now - just hand over all the money you make to me
There hasn't been this grand of scale of potential disenfranchisement of Americans since Lincoln freed the slaves without asking the South.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Mon, Dec 10, 2012 10:36:35pm |
From a thread about whether or not alien abductions occur...
The reasons are very complex. So much so that none of us will ever truly understand.
I do not have time to go into this but I would suggest you look into other topics on this board.
When you try and think "logically" of the ET and abduction phenomenon. Just remember your perception of "logic" is very limited in regards to the scope of the universe.
I will only answer what I know, even if it is not believed.
1)yes the governments of the world and intelligence agencies have been covering it up for a VERY long time.
2) Occult initiates are no stranger to intelligences of other realms/dimensions/beings, and many (like Crowley and John Dee) have interacted with them physically.
3)In the intelligence communities at certain levels, yes there is interaction with other beings. And yes 'deals' were also made a very long time ago.
4) Some beings are dying and something we carry/have might of been viewed as part of the solution to their deficiencies.
5) Inside conspiracy theory is a great deal of truth. It is mired by propaganda, disinfo, and the general uneducated guesses of most of those trying to understand information that transcends anything our brain can even process.
Take care.
This is from the Indigo Society forum where almost every person in the thread claims some kind of personal experience with aliens, lmao.
[Link: indigosociety.com...]
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Mon, Dec 10, 2012 11:27:18pm |
Gee, English wingnuts say the same things that ours do...
I imagine the quality of life for the people of North Korea isn't any worse than the average Brit. There is no real freedom of speech in Britain, our people are being locked up or persecuted up for what they say, for which political party they support. We are bled dry in taxes and forced to pay for vile marxist propaganda spewed out by the disgraceful Biased Brainwashing Corporation.
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freetoken Mon, Dec 10, 2012 11:28:20pm |
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Tigger2 Mon, Dec 10, 2012 11:38:35pm |
re: #106 Kragar
Oh Bryan...
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Somebody is ascared.
Will SCOTUS destroy republican form of government
I hope so.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Dec 11, 2012 12:06:50am |
The wingnuts are starting to get themselves all worked up about Quentin Tarantino's new movie "Django Unchained" that is coming out at Christmas. A black slave gunning down white bad guys wild west style has them all clutching their pearls.
The amount of racism coming out into the open in the threads is just ridiculous, but it is also very revealing. The keyboard warriors are pissing their pants about the movies potential to "rile up the blacks." They are actually scared of the random black on white violence they are sure the movie will create.
Here I thought they were all badass macho men that weren't afraid of nothing, turns out all it takes to scare them is a black playing the lead in a gunslinger movie.
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researchok Tue, Dec 11, 2012 12:27:09am |
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Dec 11, 2012 12:29:10am |
re: #115 watching you tiny alien kittens are
An example of the kind of racist idiocy I was talking about...
Let’s see, we just had the most racially divisive election in modern times that reinstalled the most racist president ever, and Tarrantino’s movie is going to stoke black racist passions to go kill whitey and flash mob, as if the chuckling white genocidal fools who laughed at this dumbass Foxx’s racist rant on SNL don’t have enough to fear from black on white violence. American cities better get ready for flash mobs to pour out of theaters on Christmas Day filled with hate and rage and ready to kill whitey.
Jesus guys, it's only a freaking gunslinger movie, not a how-to guide for "killing whitey." You guys don't walk out of the theater after watching a Clint Eastwood spaghetti western and then go round shooting Italians Mexicans, do you?
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freetoken Tue, Dec 11, 2012 12:34:21am |
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researchok Tue, Dec 11, 2012 12:35:43am |
re: #120 freetoken
Read that one more time.
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researchok Tue, Dec 11, 2012 12:39:05am |
re: #119 watching you tiny alien kittens are
When I was eight, I watched a western with my kid brother.
Then I beat the crap out if him.
Then Sheriff Dad showed up.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Dec 11, 2012 1:00:31am |
Once again a wingnut proves that they can only see Black or White with no graduation of scale...
Health care should be a right. Right. All those supplies and equipment belong to someone. That’s theft, boy. Their time, training and efforts are theirs, too. That’s slavery, asshole. We already had one war about that kind of thing. Guess which end of the rifle you go on if we have to do it again. And what kind of healthcare do you expect when it all must be donated through the goodness of peoples’ souls? Parasite.
Sure that's right, what we are really saying is that all healthcare should be completely free and healthcare workers should work for nothing as our slaves. All that talk about everyone paying into a national health system that would provide healthcare to citizens and pay physicians and nurses is all just a smokescreen.
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freetoken Tue, Dec 11, 2012 1:13:35am |
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researchok Tue, Dec 11, 2012 1:21:44am |
re: #124 freetoken
Frank could make 'Happy Birthday' sound original.
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researchok Tue, Dec 11, 2012 1:23:59am |
re: #123 watching you tiny alien kittens are
Do what I do- in one ear, out the other.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Dec 11, 2012 1:49:53am |
Because no one ever tried to rip off a pot grow house in WA. before it was legalized there?
Two killed at WA pot house on first day of legal weed. Get used to it, WA. You wanted it, you got it. latimes.com/news/nation/na...— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) December 10, 2012
If anything this should start happening less often now as many more people feel free to grow their own without any real fear of prosecution. Both street demand and prices should go down over time.
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Varek Raith Tue, Dec 11, 2012 2:14:05am |
re: #127 watching you tiny alien kittens are
Because no one ever tried to rip off a pot grow house in WA. before it was legalized there?
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If anything this should start happening less often now as many more people feel free to grow their own without any real fear of prosecution. Both street demand and prices should go down over time.
That totally never happened before!
Totally.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Dec 11, 2012 2:20:36am |
So what has it been, maybe a week since a Republican mentioned "rape babies" and abortion?
When media asks @ rape: "Wrong Q. Right Q: is it a baby? If it is, we don't execute children for sins of their fathers."— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) December 9, 2012
Not any more. Someone remember to tell Colbert to reset his count to 0 again...
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freetoken Tue, Dec 11, 2012 2:59:58am |
One of the best known of the double entendre holiday classics:
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Varek Raith Tue, Dec 11, 2012 3:20:04am |
re: #130 freetoken
One of the best known of the double entendre holiday classics:
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Dec 11, 2012 3:32:10am |
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Varek Raith Tue, Dec 11, 2012 3:39:15am |
re: #132 watching you tiny alien kittens are
As Seen on TV - a tribute to doing it wrong
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They fail at life.
XD
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freetoken Tue, Dec 11, 2012 4:24:40am |
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Dec 11, 2012 4:56:17am |
re: #129 watching you tiny alien kittens are
So what has it been, maybe a week since a Republican mentioned "rape babies" and abortion?
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Not any more. Someone remember to tell Colbert to reset his count to 0 again...
The counter was for candidates, office holders, and party officials. Bryan Fischer doesn't fit those categories, so what he says does not effect the count.
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Tue, Dec 11, 2012 5:02:38am |
Bryan's Tweets make me want to throw my fist through the monitor.
Hiking taxes on wealthy drives them & their money out of your country: Actor leaves France for Belgium. myfoxny.com/story/20307940...— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) December 11, 2012
EVERY government job is a drain on the economy. Government workers do not create wealth, they only consume it.— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) December 11, 2012
Since Barack the Destroyer took office in 2009, he has hired 101 government employees A DAY. news.investors.com/politics-andre...— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) December 11, 2012
(All those Soldiers, Sailors and Marines, sucking up wealth)
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Dec 11, 2012 5:09:44am |
re: #137 Vicious Babushka
Bryan's Tweets make me want to throw my fist through the monitor.
(All those Soldiers, Sailors and Marines, sucking up wealth)
@bryanjfischer Well,government also protects wealth from thieves and invaders.But don't let that interrupt your anarchist fantasy, Bryan.
— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) December 11, 2012
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Targetpractice Tue, Dec 11, 2012 5:13:50am |
Of course government workers don't create wealth. Just look at Rural Electrification...er, Hoover Dam...Grand Coulee...the Highway System...fuck, this is harder than it seemed.
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A Mom Anon Tue, Dec 11, 2012 5:14:45am |
Hello Lizards. I didn't drop off the face of the earth,yet anyways.
The last couple of weeks have been,um,challenging,let's go with that. My Dad is going to need open heart surgery right after New Years. He's in his 70s so there's always a worry with that. They are doing vein grafts to unblock 3 arteries that are 70 percent closed off. I hope this helps,he's been dealing with feeling lousy for a couple of years now.
Yesterday I took Abby the wonder dog to the dog park. She somehow managed to tear a 6 inch long,almost 2 inch deep laceration in her side on the park's chain link fence. So yesterday was spent in the emergency vet's office while she had a nearly 2 hour surgery to repair the damage. Thankfully the wound just missed entering into her body cavity.It was the weirdest thing,she didn't bleed a drop,even though I could literally fit my whole hand in the wound. She's got three layers of sutures,2 internal and then staples on the outside. 550 dollars. Crap. She's one of my best friends ever,it's worth every penny,but damn.
I'm also struggling with anxiety again,the fact that it's dark now at 6 pm is NOT helping. I had to stop reading the news and blogs and stuff for awhile,that wasn't helping either. I can't do meds,I've tried, the side effects are worse for me than the actual anxiety. My remedy for that is walking the dog in the woods. Can't do that for 2 weeks at least. Baking and cooking up a storm will have to suffice for now.
Hope your holiday season is going better than mine,lol.
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Targetpractice Tue, Dec 11, 2012 5:19:39am |
re: #140 A Mom Anon
Sorry to hear about the medical maladies, here's hoping for your dad and Abby. And yeah, I sympathize with the anxiety, I get the occasional attack this time of year as well, though I've never been bad enough to need medication. Baking and cooking seem to be as constructive a way to keep your mind busy as any.
Good luck to ya.
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Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Dec 11, 2012 5:34:33am |
re: #127 watching you tiny alien kittens are
Because no one ever tried to rip off a pot grow house in WA. before it was legalized there?
If anything this should start happening less often now as many more people feel free to grow their own without any real fear of prosecution. Both street demand and prices should go down over time.
Hmm. We need to start more churches as well. Hit Mr Fisher in the pocketbook since a wider supply of Jesus should drop demand and prices.
;)
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Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Dec 11, 2012 5:37:51am |
re: #140 A Mom Anon
I hope the dog heals well and feels up for walks soon.
The waking in the dark and getting home from work in the dark thing is pretty depressing for me as well.
:(
(Back to catching up with work email. Only 5800 messages in my in-box when I got here. Luckily a lot of it is junk warning messages from a known issue that I can just delete w/o reading.)
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lawhawk Tue, Dec 11, 2012 5:38:25am |
re: #138 Dark_Falcon
Not to mention every firefighter, law enforcement officer, DOT road crew that keeps roads functioning, teachers, etc.
He's totally clueless about the social compact that keeps society humming. Wishful thinking isn't a substitute for government.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Dec 11, 2012 5:39:33am |
re: #144 lawhawk
Not to mention every firefighter, law enforcement officer, DOT road crew that keeps roads functioning, teachers, etc.
He's totally clueless about the social compact that keeps society humming. Wishful thinking isn't a substitute for government.
I wonder if he really believes it or if he's just shilling bullshit for his followers.
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Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Dec 11, 2012 5:42:11am |
re: #145 Dark_Falcon
I wonder if he really believes it or if he's just shilling bullshit for his followers.
I hope the former since there is an educational possibility that he will learn better and stop. The latter simply means that he is scum, and being so with full knowledge that he is spreading lies and deceit for personal gain.
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Tue, Dec 11, 2012 5:42:29am |
re: #145 Dark_Falcon
I wonder if he really believes it or if he's just shilling bullshit for his followers.
I think he's just trolling Twitter for teh lulz.
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Targetpractice Tue, Dec 11, 2012 5:43:10am |
re: #145 Dark_Falcon
I wonder if he really believes it or if he's just shilling bullshit for his followers.
Either way, he's an idiot, either for believing it or bullshitting others into believing it.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Dec 11, 2012 5:49:13am |
re: #148 Targetpractice
Either way, he's an idiot, either for believing it or bullshitting others into believing it.
Actually, the latter wouldn't make an idiot, it would prove him evil. Of course, he could be both, and I think his is (an evil idiot, that is).
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Targetpractice Tue, Dec 11, 2012 5:55:16am |
re: #149 Dark_Falcon
Actually, the latter wouldn't make an idiot, it would prove him evil. Of course, he could be both, and I think his is (an evil idiot, that is).
It's still early for me, my brain is only operating at half-capacity.
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Tue, Dec 11, 2012 6:02:10am |
With less than .5% of the worlds population celebrating #Hanukkah I am always amazed with how much PR and Media attention it gets.— Rabbi Bernath (@rabbiyisroel) December 11, 2012
Heh. Proof that Zionists control the world. :)
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BongCrodny Tue, Dec 11, 2012 6:06:48am |
re: #137 Vicious Babushka
Bryan's Tweets make me want to throw my fist through the monitor.
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(All those Soldiers, Sailors and Marines, sucking up wealth)
Religious crackpot obsesses about wealth. Jesus who?
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Targetpractice Tue, Dec 11, 2012 6:09:39am |
re: #152 BongCrodny
Religious crackpot obsesses about wealth. Jesus who?
Didn't you know? The Good Book was wrong, Jesus was totally buddies with the money changers and regularly kicked beggars in the teeth for having the gall to ask him for money. And when he turned water into wine? Yeah, he sent the bill for all that wine the very next day.
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Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Dec 11, 2012 6:14:44am |
re: #153 Targetpractice
Didn't you know? The Good Book was wrong, Jesus was totally buddies with the money changers and regularly kicked beggars in the teeth for having the gall to ask him for money. And when he turned water into wine? Yeah, he sent the bill for all that wine the very next day.
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And he cured the lepers simply to get them to stop asking for free stuff. Not that they were satisfied with that in any case...
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BongCrodny Tue, Dec 11, 2012 6:14:52am |
re: #127 watching you tiny alien kittens are
Because no one ever tried to rip off a pot grow house in WA. before it was legalized there?
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If anything this should start happening less often now as many more people feel free to grow their own without any real fear of prosecution. Both street demand and prices should go down over time.
That's spectacularly dumb, even by Fischer's standards.
His argument seems to be that the growers were able to plant and grow marijuana in 24 hours. What if the robbers had broken in 24 hours earlier?
I'm embarrassed for the Los Angeles Times, stooping so low as to use such a boogeyman headline.
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Tue, Dec 11, 2012 6:14:57am |
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BongCrodny Tue, Dec 11, 2012 6:17:59am |
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Targetpractice Tue, Dec 11, 2012 6:32:52am |
re: #156 Vicious Babushka
Meanwhile, bailiffs had to check Clarence Thomas just to make sure he still had a pulse.
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Scalia's not even faking impartiality anymore. You couldn't find a surer bet outside of Vegas.
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lawhawk Tue, Dec 11, 2012 6:41:11am |
U.S. Treasury to sell remaining #AIG shares for $7.6b; bringing total taxpayer profit of $22.7b on bailout reut.rs/UzhChY via @reuters— lawhawk (@lawhawk) December 11, 2012
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Targetpractice Tue, Dec 11, 2012 6:43:14am |
re: #159 lawhawk
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We lost billions in TARP! We're never gonna make that money back! The country's gonna collapse!!!!
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Tue, Dec 11, 2012 6:56:19am |
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lawhawk Tue, Dec 11, 2012 6:57:24am |
re: #160 Targetpractice
AIG got $182.3 billion from the feds (Treasury and Federal Reserve) and has repaid $205 billion, giving a $22.7 billion profit. That's roughly a 12.4% rate of return.
As for the rest of TARP, there's still an issue with the auto bailout portion since the Treasury-owed GM shares are still underwater and it would take a significant share price gain to break even on sales. Selling off those shares would further depress the stock price and solidify the losses; right now the losses are paper losses that could be reversed if GM can further improve sales, profits, and get investors to get bullish on the company's outlook.
TARP has worked out better than envisioned, since there was an expectation that taxpayers would never see the investments recouped. Losses have been pared back significantly, and some portions of the plan have actually returned profits.
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Obdicut Tue, Dec 11, 2012 6:58:56am |
re: #156 Vicious Babushka
He also claims he's using the 'reduction to the absurd' to make his point. In that case, however, the 'reduction to the absurd' isn't really relevant. He's just covering his ass.
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:00:42am |
re: #156 Vicious Babushka
This makes perfect sense to any fundamentalist Christian or Muslim: Homosexuality, murder, rape, incest, bestiality, abortion, etc are all abominations unto the Lord/Allah and should all be forbidden by law.
To allow one is to open the door for the others.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:02:53am |
re: #156 Vicious Babushka
He's a jackass. Just another reason it's a good thing that Obama won re-election because Romney sees Scalia as a model justice.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:03:42am |
re: #156 Vicious Babushka
"It's a form of argument that I thought you would have known, which is called the `reduction to the absurd,'" Scalia told Hosie of San Francisco during the question-and-answer period. "If we cannot have moral feelings against homosexuality, can we have it against murder? Can we have it against other things?"
Scalia said he is not equating sodomy with murder but drawing a parallel between the bans on both.
Then he deadpanned: "I'm surprised you aren't persuaded."
Hosie said afterward that he was not persuaded by Scalia's answer. He said he believes Scalia's writings tend to "dehumanize" gays.
(Bolding mine.) Please don't write that the subject of the article said something he explicitly stated he was not saying.
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Obdicut Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:04:18am |
To be clear, a reduction to the absurd is only useful when you're countering something that's false.
Basically, Scalia is trying to say that we can legislate against morality, because if we couldn't, we couldn't legislate against murder. But we don't legislate against murder because of morality, we legislate against it because it's infringing on someone else's rights.
It's weird to see him lie like that.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:04:21am |
Scalia is an as big "judicial activist" as those he and his allies deride and the best example of that is how he ruled on Lawrence V Texas.
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Targetpractice Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:05:03am |
re: #164 Sol Berdinowitz
This makes perfect sense to any fundamentalist Christian or Muslim: Homosexuality, murder, rape, incest, bestiality, abortion, etc are all abominations unto the Lord/Allah and should all be forbidden by law.
To allow one is to open the door for the others.
His argument is one I've heard from plenty of those trying to make theology law, namely "our laws are based on our moral values," with "our" standing for "Mother Church." The church disagrees with abortion, so of course the "moral" thing to do is outlaw it. It's a view that cannot stand equally with a belief in equal protection and personal liberty.
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Obdicut Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:07:50am |
re: #166 Dark_Falcon
(Bolding mine.) Please don't write that the subject of the article said something he explicitly stated he was not saying.
Unfortunately, what he was saying made no sense.
If you think it did, can you explain Scalia's argumentem ad absurdem?
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Obdicut Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:10:20am |
We don't legislate against adultery, we don't legislate against unprotected sex, we don't legislate against sex between unmarried people-- the only possible way for scalia's argument to legislate against homosexuality would be to justified would be if we also legislated against heterosexual conduct. Which we don't.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:10:30am |
He wasn't explicitly saying homosexuality is like murder but he was saying using an extreme logical fallacy that if you don't ban homosexuality due to morals, then you shouldn't be able to ban murder. That's nonsense. Would he be using that point on something like say alcohol use which many religions find the use of immoral. Scalia's an ass and continues to act like one. Really telling that this man is the model supreme court justice for present Republican candidates.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:11:00am |
re: #171 Obdicut
We don't legislate against adultery, we don't legislate against unprotected sex, we don't legislate against sex between unmarried people-- the only possible way for scalia's argument to legislate against homosexuality would be to justified would be if we also legislated against heterosexual conduct. Which we don't.
Precisely. It's bullshit.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:13:17am |
re: #171 Obdicut
We don't legislate against adultery, we don't legislate against unprotected sex, we don't legislate against sex between unmarried people-- the only possible way for scalia's argument to legislate against homosexuality would be to justified would be if we also legislated against heterosexual conduct. Which we don't.
He's saying don't legislate such conduct, but he thinks the Constitution permits such legislation.
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Targetpractice Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:14:19am |
re: #174 Dark_Falcon
He's saying don't legislate such conduct, but he thinks the Constitution permits such legislation.
That a Supreme Court Justice doesn't understand Equal Protection is not generally seen as a good sign.
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Obdicut Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:14:56am |
re: #174 Dark_Falcon
He's saying don't legislate such conduct, but he thinks the Constitution permits such legislation.
No, Dark, that isn't what he said. He specifically said that he's using an reductio ad absurdum, using the idea of legislating against murder as an example of legislating based on morality.
This is incorrect. We don't criminalize murder because of morality, but because it's depriving someone else of their rights.
Do you understand?
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BongCrodny Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:20:36am |
re: #167 Obdicut
To be clear, a reduction to the absurd is only useful when you're countering something that's false.
Basically, Scalia is trying to say that we can legislate against morality, because if we couldn't, we couldn't legislate against murder. But we don't legislate against murder because of morality, we legislate against it because it's infringing on someone else's rights.
It's weird to see him lie like that.
This. When I read stories praising Scalia for being a great thinker, I have to confess I'm pretty happy being a meathead.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:20:59am |
Let's be honest here. We legislate based on our feelings about homosexuality and other things that are deemed sinful. Two guys fucking, gross, let's outlaw it. Two women fucking, let's take a more nuanced approach because it sometimes gives us wood. To me, that's part of why many religions show a double standard because their feelings about homosexuality not their morality are the driving force.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:25:34am |
What I was really trying to say was that Scalia did not say the homosexuality was like murder, which I Alouette's post could be read to mean by someone who didn't click through.
I'm not interested in talking about the matter beyond that.
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lawhawk Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:27:21am |
re: #172 HappyWarrior
Malum in se versus malum prohibitum.
Scalia is obfuscating the two, when they have clear distinctions.
Legislating marriage would fall into a malum prohibitum situation where we're talking about a government legislating conduct as criminal or prohibited. Some legislature deemed that this is conduct to be criminalized.
Murder as an act is so repulsive and violates society's standards for allowable conduct that it is illegal. That's a textbook case of malum in se crimes.
In other words, murder, rape, and theft are so violative of societal conduct that they are illegal on their face.
What Scalia may be trying to do is claim that gay marriage is something that falls into the malum in se category when it does no such thing. Muddying the waters - not merely engaging in reducto ad absurdum.
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Obdicut Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:29:38am |
re: #180 Dark_Falcon
What I was really trying to say was that Scalia did not say the homosexuality was like murder, which I Alouette's post could be read to mean by someone who didn't click through.
I'm not interested in talking about the matter beyond that.
But he did. He said he used a reductio ad absurdum, which necessarily means he's comparing murder to homosexuality and saying they're both 'moral' offenses and that's what we base our legislation on.
I know you're trying to deny this, but the problem is your denial has no force to it because it's obviously true that that's what Scalia is saying.
You are simply reflexively denying the truth. Instead, why not think about how this truth might alter your opinion of Scalia's legal reasoning on this point? He's only human.
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Interesting Times Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:31:12am |
Scalia is a primitive bigot. Full stop.
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:38:38am |
re: #178 HappyWarrior
Let's be honest here. We legislate based on our feelings about homosexuality and other things that are deemed sinful. Two guys fucking, gross, let's outlaw it. Two women fucking, let's take a more nuanced approach because it sometimes gives us wood. To me, that's part of why many religions show a double standard because their feelings about homosexuality not their morality are the driving force.
It also does not help if the leaders of the religions are themselves repressed, self-loathing homosexuals...
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:39:36am |
re: #185 darthstar
Mornin' everyone...what's shakin'?
if it's shaken more than three times it's bein' played with!!!
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:39:51am |
re: #178 HappyWarrior
Let's be honest here. We legislate based on our feelings about homosexuality and other things that are deemed sinful. Two guys fucking, gross, let's outlaw it. Two women fucking, let's take a more nuanced approach because it sometimes gives us wood. To me, that's part of why many religions show a double standard because their feelings about homosexuality not their morality are the driving force.
Yup, the world must revolve around the adolescent males tingly feelings.
*spit*
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:40:04am |
and how is everyone this am?
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:40:22am |
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Interesting Times Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:40:40am |
re: #185 darthstar
Mornin' everyone...what's shakin'?
Scalia, in his boots, at the icky immoral thought of two men marrying.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:41:24am |
re: #187 Holidays are Family Fun Time
Yup, the world must revolve around the adolescent males tingly feelings.
*spit*
It's all so very stupid.
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Targetpractice Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:41:45am |
re: #185 darthstar
Mornin' everyone...what's shakin'?
The usual, Darth, martinis and skirts.
/(Geek moment)
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darthstar Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:42:24am |
re: #190 Interesting Times
Scalia, in his boots, at the icky immoral thought of two men marrying.
I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT!!!it might make me teh ghey
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Varek Raith Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:42:34am |
re: #186 Sol Berdinowitz
if it's shaken more than three times it's bein' played with!!!
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darthstar Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:43:08am |
re: #192 Targetpractice
The usual, Darth, martinis and skirts.
/(Geek moment)
A properly shaken skirt can be quite stirring.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:44:00am |
Rebel video gamer tech in Syria...
Syrian rebels make ‘Playstation tank’
A group of Syrian rebels has constructed a makeshift armored vehicle whose weaponry is controlled by a Sony Playstation video game controller, the AFP reported this week.
The vehicle, which “took a month to build” according to Mahmud Abud from the al-Ansar rebel brigade, is a car chassis completely enclosed in 2.5-cm. steel armor with a 7.62-mm machine gun mounted on top.
Cameras positioned around the outside enable the vehicle to be piloted by its driver, while the machine gun is aimed and fired by a gunner using a video game controller and a fifth camera.
It was unclear from the report if the vehicle, which Abud said cost $10,000 to build, has been deployed in the field.
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darthstar Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:44:01am |
re: #186 Sol Berdinowitz
if it's shaken more than three times it's bein' played with!!!
I found that restriction unrealistic, so I always said, "If you shake it more than thirty times you're playing with it."
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:44:58am |
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Targetpractice Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:45:10am |
re: #197 NJDhockeyfan
Rebel video gamer tech in Syria...
Syrian rebels make ‘Playstation tank’
It was unclear from the report if the vehicle, which Abud said cost $10,000 to build, has been deployed in the field.
Somebody's played too much CoD.
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darthstar Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:45:27am |
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Varek Raith Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:46:13am |
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lawhawk Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:48:39am |
re: #201 darthstar
I have plenty of faith in plate tectonics. That's why I've invested in beachfront property around Palm Springs, CA. Or is that global warming.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:48:49am |
re: #197 NJDhockeyfan
Rebel video gamer tech in Syria...
It's pretty cool but the tires are still a weak spot. I still give them an A for effort.
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lawhawk Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:49:22am |
re: #197 NJDhockeyfan
They've got to watch out for overclocking. /
That and someone with a faster keypad.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:50:18am |
re: #192 Targetpractice
The usual, Darth, martinis and skirts.
/(Geek moment)
Geeks wear skirts when they drink martinis?
What kind of shoes?
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Targetpractice Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:50:32am |
re: #205 lawhawk
They've got to watch out for overclocking. /
That and someone with a faster keypad.
"That fucker's wallhacking!"
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Targetpractice Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:51:07am |
re: #206 Holidays are Family Fun Time
Geeks wear skirts when they drink martinis?
What kind of shoes?
It's best not to think about it. Trust me, fewer brain scars that way.
/
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Varek Raith Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:51:18am |
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Varek Raith Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:52:46am |
Fake but still funny.
Image: first-baptist-church-funny-silly-stuff.jpg
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darthstar Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:55:08am |
re: #203 lawhawk
I have plenty of faith in plate tectonics. That's why I've invested in beachfront property around Palm Springs, CA. Or is that global warming.
A little bit of both and you're golden. Hey, Palm Springs is only 440 feet above sea level...that'll be quite pretty when it happens, and the water will be accessible. I'd thought it was around 1500 feet, in which case one could make a pretty penny building staircases to the beach for people.
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BongCrodny Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:58:44am |
re: #198 darthstar
I found that restriction unrealistic, so I always said, "If you shake it more than thirty times you're playing with it."
So if I shake it 29 times I'm cool?
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darthstar Tue, Dec 11, 2012 7:59:07am |
In 1983, 50 corporations controlled a majority of American media. Now that number is six. vimeo.com/55073967 CC: @fcc #FCC— Bernie Sanders (@SenSanders) December 11, 2012
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darthstar Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:00:15am |
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Targetpractice Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:00:30am |
Holy hell!
Valuable WWII Gun at Police Buy-Back
Just like a scene out of "Antiques Roadshow," a woman in Hartford, Conn., turned in an old rifle to her local police station's gun buy-back, only to discover the gun was worth anywhere from $20,000 to $25,000. The woman, who wishes to remain anonymous, inherited the gun from her father who had brought it home with him from Europe as a memento from World War II.
The two officers conducting the gun buy-back, who are resident gun experts for the Hartford Police Department, informed the owner she was in possession of a Nazi Assault Rifle, the first of its kind, that dates back to 1944.
The gun is called a Sturmgewehr 44, literally meaning "storm rifle," and is the first "modern assault rifle ever made, eventually replaced by the AK 47 in 1947 by Russia, who copied the German design of the Sturmgewehr 44," Officer Lewis Crabtree, one of the two officers who discovered the gun, told ABC News.
"It's like finding the Babe Ruth of baseball cards," said Officer John Cavanna. "The rarity, it was made for such a very short period."
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:01:19am |
Not good news...
Syria's Assad Will Use Chemical Weapons, Says Former General, Now Defector
A former top general in Syria's chemical weapons program says he doesn't doubt for a moment that President Bashar al-Assad will deploy his chemical weapons arsenal as he tries to hold onto power and crush the uprising that started almost two years ago.
"The regime started to fall and deteriorate. It's coming to its end," said retired Major General Adnan Sillou in an interview in a hotel near Antakya, on Turkey's southern border with Syria. "It's highly possible that he'll start using [chemical weapons] to kill his own people because this regime is a killer."
Sillou told ABC News that until September 2008, he was chief of staff on the defensive side of the chemical weapons program. He said he was in charge of training soldiers against attacks and contact with the weapons, as well as procuring safety equipment to guard against them.
He listed mustard gas along with the sarin, VX and tabun nerve agents as the main elements in Syria's chemical arsenal, whose existence Syria doesn't even acknowledge. Foreign intelligence officials and analysts have focused on the first three as the main threats, and last week U.S. officials said there was evidence sarin had not only been moved, but its binary components, usually stored separately, had been combined and placed into bombs for use.
Sillou accuses Assad's forces of already spraying pesticides and dropping white phosphorous, claims also made by opposition activists.
"They're idiots, crazy. Simply they are killers," he said.
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William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:02:16am |
re: #197 NJDhockeyfan
Rebel video gamer tech in Syria...
Syrian rebels make ‘Playstation tank’
It was unclear from the report if the vehicle, which Abud said cost $10,000 to build, has been deployed in the field.
That would be an absolute deathtrap in combat. I did tanks in the US Army; that thing is simply a steel coffin. The armor won't stop heavy MG fire (12 mm & 14mm soviet are plentiful in the Syrian Army) much less an RPG or anti-vehicular mine. The 7.62 mg is only good for making enemy infantry that are straight ahead of the vehicle keep their heads down until they have to change the belt (one of many reasons real tanks have more than one weapon). At which point they pop up with RPG's. Boom. End of pretend tank and all crew. Especially if (and since I pulled a KT and didn't actually read the fine article) it's a gasoline powered chassis instead of diesel in which case it'll zippo even faster than a M4 Sherman.
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Targetpractice Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:06:09am |
re: #217 William Barnett-Lewis
That would be an absolute deathtrap in combat. I did tanks in the US Army; that thing is simply a steel coffin. The armor won't stop heavy MG fire (12 mm & 14mm soviet are plentiful in the Syrian Army) much less an RPG or anti-vehicular mine. The 7.62 mg is only good for making enemy infantry that are straight ahead of the vehicle keep their heads down until they have to change the belt (one of many reasons real tanks have more than one weapon). At which point they pop up with RPG's. Boom. End of pretend tank and all crew. Especially if (and since I pulled a KT and didn't actually read the fine article) it's a gasoline powered chassis instead of diesel in which case it'll zippo even faster than a M4 Sherman.
At least the ad-hoc self-propelled howitzer we saw in Libya had a purpose, albeit a very limited one. This sucker's not even good for urban warfare.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:08:14am |
re: #215 Targetpractice
Holy hell!
kudos to the officers for not taking the gun in the buy-back and selling it themselves.
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William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:08:43am |
re: #215 Targetpractice
Holy hell!
Yeah, I saw that. Supposedly they have all the papers, but it was unclear if it was registered with ATF in the 1965 amnesty or not. If yes, $50,000+ transferable NFA weapon. If no, illegal MG that must, by law, be scrapped by ATF with no compensation to the prior owners. ATF is not fun to deal with regarding these kinds of questions. If the Hughes act (thank Reagan, you anti-gun bastard) were repealed it could be added to the registry but right now no civilian can own a new fully automatic or selective fire NFA weapon - and if unregistered, the STG-44 would be considered "new".
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TedStriker Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:09:09am |
re: #161 Vicious Babushka
You know, Stuef... there's a saying where I come from: don't start no shit, won't be no shit.
That chop of Trig and its associated comment is just inexcusable.
Enjoy being pwned by someone who is capable of carving you up like a turkey, fuckhead.
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darthstar Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:09:41am |
Brit Hume complains that President Obama "won only 51 percent" of the vote and should be nicer to Republicans: mm4a.org/UbYwgP— Media Matters (@mmfa) December 11, 2012
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darthstar Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:10:45am |
re: #216 NJDhockeyfan
Not good news...
Syria's Assad Will Use Chemical Weapons, Says Former General, Now Defector
You're not even shaking it and you're already playing with it.
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BongCrodny Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:14:01am |
re: #213 darthstar
[Embedded content]
It used to be that a corporation couldn't own more than 7 AM, 7 FM and 7 TV stations.
We gave up a lot when we gave up that rule.
Here's a timeline for anyone interested:
In the 1970’s Licensees were limited to a total of 7 television licenses, 7 AM radio licenses, and 7 FM radio licenses nationwide; known as the 7-7-7 rule.
1985 the 7-7-7 rule was upgraded to the 12-12-12 rule.
1992 saw the rules relaxed even further to the 12-18-18 rule.
Telecommunications Act of 1996 changed regulation so that a single company cannot own more than eight radio stations in a given market, however, there is no limit on the number of radio stations one company can own nationwide.
In August 1999 the FCC created the “eight voices” test and the 35% rule. The rule said that Locally-a company may own two TV stations in the same market (a duopoly) as long as eight individual voices still exist. Nationally- No company may own more than 35% of the nation’s TV audience.
Information courtesy of 02e1390.netsolhost.com.
I read that last sentence to mean that it's possible that control could ultimately be winnowed down to *three* corporations controlling the TV market: 35%, 35% and 30%. That may not happen, but like Senator Sanders says, we've gone from 50 to 6 in under 30 years. Is it such a stretch to believe it could go from 6 to 3?
My biggest beef with Clinton wasn't DOMA (although I wasn't overjoyed by his embrace of it_ -- it was his support of the Telecommunications Act of 1996 that really rankled me.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:14:36am |
re: #221 TedStriker
You know, Stuef... there's a saying where I come from: don't start no shit, won't be no shit.
That chop of Trig and its associated comment is just inexcusable.
Enjoy being pwned by someone who is capable of carving you up like a turkey, fuckhead.
I think he was inspired by that Gawker article a while back that outed some redditor and generated a lot of publicity. It is kind of creepy that journalists now think of anonymous individuals posting on popular sites as easy targets.
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:16:45am |
re: #226 Killgore Trout
I think he was inspired by that Gawker article a while back that outed some redditor and generated a lot of publicity. It is kind of creepy that journalists now think of anonymous individuals posting on popular sites as easy targets.
Matthew Inman is less anonymous that you are.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:16:57am |
Holy fuck! What a shitbag artist....
Gallery pulls Swede's Holocaust ash paintings
An art exhibit featuring works by a Swedish artist claiming he used paint mixed from the ashes of Holocaust victims has been closed following a storm of criticism.
...Carl Michael von Hausswolff claims he used ashes taken in 1989 from a crematorium at the Majdanek concentration camp and mixed them with water to nine paintings featured in the exhibit entitled "Memory Works".
Upon learning of the exhibit, Shimon Samuels, director for international relations at the Simon Wiesenthal Centre in the United States issued a stinging rebuke of von Hausswolff, comparing him to the Nazis.
"Mr. von Hausswolff, you, like the Nazis' use of human skin for lampshades and fat to produce soap have similarly twice murdered the bodies that were once the ashes you have desecrated, turning art into abomination," wrote Samuels in an open letter on the Centre's website.
"Hitler, as an aspirant painter, would have surely applauded."
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BongCrodny Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:17:35am |
re: #224 Holidays are Family Fun Time
Ooh! The Killer!
If you're unfamiliar with it, you should check out his "Last Man Standing" album. It's not deep, but I'd bet dollars to donuts that Lewis and his guest stars had a shitload of fun working on that album.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:17:48am |
re: #228 NJDhockeyfan
Holy fuck! What a shitbag artist....
Just a little morbid, huh?
Psycopathic -maybe????
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:19:56am |
re: #229 BongCrodny
Ooh! The Killer!
If you're unfamiliar with it, you should check out his "Last Man Standing" album. It's not deep, but I'd bet dollars to donuts that Lewis and his guest stars had a shitload of fun working on that album.
The thing is that if anyone would have taken a abt 30-40 years ago, no one would have bet on Jerry Lee being the last man standing. And he is still going strong, from what I understand.
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BongCrodny Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:22:18am |
re: #231 Holidays are Family Fun Time
The thing is that if anyone would have taken a abt 30-40 years ago, no one would have bet on Jerry Lee being the last man standing. And he is still going strong, from what I understand.
If I were into dead pools, Jerry Lee Lewis would have made my short list *every* year.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:22:41am |
re: #230 Holidays are Family Fun Time
Just a little morbid, huh?
Psycopathic -maybe????
There are some pretty sick people out there. How this idiot was able to open an art exhibit is mind numbing.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:22:47am |
If anyone read upthread my 29 and 18, one of the young ladies TXT me that she is going to try to have a conference with the Gen Manager and HR. Seems like a good way to start.
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William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:23:29am |
re: #219 Holidays are Family Fun Time
kudos to the officers for not taking the gun in the buy-back and selling it themselves.
They couldn't legally touch it even as a turn in. The NFA is a hornet's nest of nasty law that is, in many places, self-contradictory. I know if I learned of someone's grampa's bringback that was one of these or the like (MP40, MG42, FG42, etc) I'd run screaming the other way & I would love to be able to own one. But there is some nasty law that got passed in the wake of the bank robbery hay-day.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:24:10am |
re: #233 NJDhockeyfan
There are some pretty sick people out there. How this idiot was able to open an art exhibit is mind numbing.
I found Body Worlds a bit much for me. Even tho as I was going thru the exhibit, I found it soooo interesting. It was creepy too! I don't think I could go thru it twice.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:24:47am |
re: #235 William Barnett-Lewis
They couldn't legally touch it even as a turn in. The NFA is a hornet's nest of nasty law that is, in many places, self-contradictory. I know if I learned of someone's grampa's bringback that was one of these or the like (MP40, MG42, FG42, etc) I'd run screaming the other way & I would love to be able to own one. But there is some nasty law that got passed in the wake of the bank robbery hay-day.
of all people, I think cops could find a way.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:26:31am |
re: #236 Holidays are Family Fun Time
I found Body Worlds a bit much for me. Even tho as I was going thru the exhibit, I found it soooo interesting. It was creepy too! I don't think I could go thru it twice.
The creep factor is very high on that.
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Gus Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:28:09am |
Which SCOTUS Justice would compare homosexuality to murder, then when he gets called out, defend it? Find out ---> thkpr.gs/VxmwuD— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) December 11, 2012
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:28:10am |
re: #238 NJDhockeyfan
The creep factor is very high on that.
Yeah, and everyone involved, I think did everything possible to create an atmosphere of respect.
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William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:28:53am |
re: #237 Holidays are Family Fun Time
of all people, I think cops could find a way.
Possession of an unregistered selective fire NFA is good for 10 years in Club Fed and a $10,000 fine. ATF makes Honey Badger seem very caring...
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:29:18am |
re: #239 Gus
[Embedded content]
“Every tinhorned dictator in the world has a bill of rights.”
WHAT????????
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:29:50am |
Our old pal Barrett Brown is in the news again.
Former Anonymous Spokesman Indicted for Linking to Stolen Data
Barrett Brown, a former spokesman for Anonymous, was recently indicted by a federal grand jury for possessing and transmitting stolen credit card numbers in connection with the group's 2011 hack of Stratfor Global Intelligence.
"Brown acted as the public face of Anonymous during its rise to fame, but he left the group in May 2011, telling Ars, 'There's little quality control in a movement like that, which was not a huge problem when the emphasis was on assisting with North African revolutions and those who came on board thus tended to be of a certain sort. But as things like OpSony [a May 2011 hack of Sony's PlayStation Network] arise, you attract a lot of people whose interest is in fucking with video game companies,'" writes Ars Technica's Megan Geuss.
"The indictment alleges that Brown possessed at least 10 stolen credit-card numbers and card-verification values (CVVs), and also shared a link to a document that contained thousands more stolen credit-card numbers," writes TechNewsDaily's Paul Wagenseil. "He faces 45 years in prison if convicted on all counts. However, the indictment does not allege that Brown himself stole the credit-card numbers or that he profited from having them. It states that merely possessing the numbers shows 'intent to defraud.'"
Heh.
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Gus Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:30:34am |
re: #242 Holidays are Family Fun Time
WHAT????????
...
“It’s a form of argument that I thought you would have known, which is called the ‘reduction to the absurd,’” Scalia told Hosie of San Francisco during the question-and-answer period. “If we cannot have moral feelings against homosexuality, can we have it against murder? Can we have it against other things?”
Scalia said he is not equating sodomy with murder but drawing a parallel between the bans on both.
Then he deadpanned: “I’m surprised you aren’t persuaded.”
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:30:57am |
re: #243 NJDhockeyfan
Our old pal Barrett Brown is in the news again.
Former Anonymous Spokesman Indicted for Linking to Stolen Data
Heh.
Yeah, only in the game as a public service for freedom.
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William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:31:08am |
BBIAB. The pharmacy needs to know that my insurance says my BP meds should cost $5 not $125... :bang head:
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:31:45am |
re: #244 Gus
...
I don't get the dictator and Bill of Rights reference. He is he saying the Bill of Rights is meaningless?
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Obdicut Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:32:11am |
re: #226 Killgore Trout
I think he was inspired by that Gawker article a while back that outed some redditor and generated a lot of publicity. It is kind of creepy that journalists now think of anonymous individuals posting on popular sites as easy targets.
You mean, when the guy who posted lots of jailbait pictures was outed? Yeah, I remember you having a problem with that guy being outed. Can you explain why it's bad to reveal the identity of someone like that again?
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Gus Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:32:26am |
SC Justice Scalia, at a speech at Princeton University: It's "effective" to draw parallels between murder and sodomy salon.com/2012/12/11/sca...— Salon.com (@Salon) December 11, 2012
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:32:37am |
Feel good story of the day...
Anonymous donor pays off Walmart layaway bills for 53 families
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:33:15am |
re: #251 NJDhockeyfan
Feel good story of the day...
Anonymous donor pays off Walmart layaway bills for 53 families
This seems to happen every year at Xmas. I love it. Wish I could do the same.
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:33:38am |
re: #251 NJDhockeyfan
Feel good story of the day...
Anonymous donor pays off Walmart layaway bills for 53 families
Feed-bad story of the decade:
Anonymous taxpayers pay emergency medical bills and food stamps for thousands of Wal-Mart employees
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bratwurst Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:36:51am |
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:41:04am |
re: #251 NJDhockeyfan
Feel good story of the day...
Anonymous donor pays off Walmart layaway bills for 53 families
Layaway plans are used by businesses to encourage poor customers to buy stuff they can't afford.
Credit cards do the same thing, but the demographic targeted by Walmart don't qualify for credit cards.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:42:54am |
re: #255 Vicious Babushka
Layaway plans are used by businesses to encourage poor customers to buy stuff they can't afford.
Credit cards do the same thing, but the demographic targeted by Walmart don't qualify for credit cards.
HUMANS!! Always wanting what they shouldn't.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:44:01am |
re: #255 Vicious Babushka
Layaway plans are used by businesses to encourage poor customers to buy stuff they can't afford.
Credit cards do the same thing, but the demographic targeted by Walmart don't qualify for credit cards.
Just about every store that I can remember offered layaways.
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:44:09am |
re: #256 Holidays are Family Fun Time
HUMANS!! Always wanting what they shouldn't.
HUMANS!! Always taking advantage of folks who want stuff they can't afford.
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:45:13am |
re: #258 Vicious Babushka
HUMANS!! Always taking advantage of folks who want stuff they can't afford.
Like emergency health care and food...
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:45:58am |
re: #259 Sol Berdinowitz
Like emergency health care and food...
Never mind that! We gotta buy Christmas gifts at Walmart on layaway!
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:46:22am |
re: #259 Sol Berdinowitz
Like emergency health care and food...
Winter coats and boots for their kids . . . .
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:48:45am |
Is it just me, or are people getting dumber:
I'd call this a Salvatore Dali Clock.
Or is it that i'm an Art Major?
The description talks about Dali, but I still don't get the title.
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BongCrodny Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:50:42am |
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:52:24am |
I have to be productive.
Have a great day all!
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Interesting Times Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:52:47am |
re: #263 Holidays are Family Fun Time
Is it just me, or are people getting dumber:
I'd call this a Salvatore Dali Clock.
Or is it that i'm an Art Major?
The description talks about Dali, but I still don't get the title.
I think it's meant to be a pun on "Hello, Dolly"
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:53:18am |
Just when I thought I couldn't hate BJ Fischer with a hate more raging than the fire of a thousand suns,
GOP thinks lost because didn't emphasize opportunity enough. Nope. Election revealed people don't want jobs, want welfare.— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) December 11, 2012
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:54:31am |
@bryanjfischer People who work at Walmart have jobs AND get welfare!— Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) December 11, 2012
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Targetpractice Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:57:46am |
re: #269 Vicious Babushka
Just when I thought I couldn't hate BJ Fischer with a hate more raging than the fire of a thousand suns,
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Spoken like a man who's never worked a blue-collar job in his life.
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TedStriker Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:58:42am |
re: #270 Vicious Babushka
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@viciousbabushka It's a win-win!— talon_262 (@talon_262) December 11, 2012
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Tue, Dec 11, 2012 8:59:20am |
re: #271 Targetpractice
Spoken like a man who's never worked a
blue-collarjob in his life.
He gets "donations" from the Koch's & other sleazy 1%s, but that's not "welfare"//
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:06:52am |
Scientists name extinct lizard after President Obama
The scientific community has come up with an unusual way of honoring President Barack Obama after his re-election--by naming an extinct lizard after him.
"I was seriously thinking, if the election had gone the other way, I would have yanked it," Yale paleontologist Nicholas Longrich told the Boston Globe. "It might have seemed like we were mocking it, naming a lizard that goes extinct after that, seemed kind of cruel."
The newly named Obamadon gracilis was a small lizard that fed off of insects and was about a foot long before going extinct about 65 million years ago.
But Longrich and his peers say no one should read any political commentary into the choice. "We're just having fun with taxonomy," he said.
And as NBC's Cosmic Log points out, this is actually the third organism named after Obama, including a fish (Etheostoma obama) and lichen (Caloplaca obamae).
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Flounder Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:11:14am |
re: #140 A Mom Anon
I hope your dad gets better and feels better. Sorry about your pup. A similar thing happened to my hound, 20-30 staples. Don't get alarmed if the wound starts to smell or if the staples don't hold, they didn't on my dog, his "skin" turned black, but he recovered fine. We just had to fit him with the cone of shame. Don't sweat it, tomorrow is another day.
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Gus Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:14:48am |
BREAKING: Michigan House passes GOP's union-busting legislation thkpr.gs/VxPnPE— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) December 11, 2012
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:15:06am |
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Targetpractice Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:17:02am |
re: #276 Gus
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Was reading just now about how the Michigan Capital building is filled past capacity and that classes were cancelled so teachers and students alike could attend the protests.
Whole thing's got a rather Wisconsin feel to it right now.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:20:28am |
Huge Asteroid to Pass Earth Tonight: How to Watch Online
A giant asteroid will make a flyby of Earth over the next few days, and armchair astronomers can watch the action live on their computers.
The near-Earth asteroid 4179 Toutatis, which is about 3 miles (5 kilometers) wide, will zoom within 4.3 million miles (7 million kilometers) of Earth during its closest approach early Wednesday morning (Dec. 12). That's too far away to pose any impact threat on this pass, but close enough to put on a pretty good show through top-notch telescopes, researchers say.
And some of those scopes will be tracking Toutatis' movements for the benefit of skywatchers around the world. The online Slooh Space Camera and Virtual Telescope Project, for example, will both stream live, free footage of the asteroid from professional-quality observatories.
Slooh will webcast Toutatis views from a scope in the Canary Islands off the west coast of Africa beginning at 3 p.m. EST (2000 GMT) today (Dec. 11). Another show will follow at 10 p.m. EST tonight (0300 GMT Wednesday), with footage from an instrument in Arizona. You can watch them at Slooh's website: [Link: www.slooh.com....]
Cool!
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Gus Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:22:29am |
I knew I could count on state legislatures to continue driving America in the wrong direction.
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Mattand Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:25:54am |
re: #276 Gus
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Been following this on Maddow's show. What's really upsetting is that these governors have been hiding their ulterior motives from the electorate.
The reason, of course, is that if they were honest about what their true intentions were, they'd have never been elected in the first place.
I won't be surprised if this comes here to NJ soon, despite the fact Christie won major concessions (with the Democrats's help) from unions last year.
I'm sure four years from now, it'll be made permanent. Christie's no dummy; he's watching these other idiots take all the heat, and then he'll avoid their mistakes and get the same result.
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Targetpractice Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:26:21am |
re: #280 Gus
I knew I could count on state legislatures to continue driving America in the wrong direction.
Hence all the talk about "states rights" and now secession in recent months. Had one neo-Confederate all but tell me that we need to bring back the Articles of Confederation.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:32:47am |
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Killgore Trout Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:33:32am |
U.S. Treasury to sell remaining AIG shares for $7.6 billion
The U.S. Treasury's sale of its remaining stake in American International Group Inc (AIG.N) will fetch $7.6 billion, bringing the government a total profit of $22.7 billion from its crisis-era bailout of the insurer.
The share offering will close the chapter on one of the most politically contentious rescues of 2008, which ultimately gave AIG up to $182 billion of government support.
At one point, the government estimated that it would never recover all of the bailout money, but as AIG restructured and returned to viability, it was able to repay the entire rescue fund plus generate a profit for U.S. taxpayers.
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William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:34:06am |
re: #280 Gus
I knew I could count on state legislatures to continue driving America in the wrong direction.
It's cheaper and easier to buy a state legislature than it is to buy enough congress critters. And if you follow the money, I'd bet you'll find the same brothers behind Michigan's anti-American legislation as was the case in Wisconsin.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:35:56am |
re: #285 Killgore Trout
Hot Air put up a poll on this article
Does the profit off of the AIG bailout vindicate TARP?
74% say no.
Heh.
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Gus Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:36:33am |
re: #283 b_sharp
The GOP really doesn't like the 47%
The same people that think the minimum wage is a living wage.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:37:11am |
re: #284 NJDhockeyfan
How've you been? I haven't seen you around for a while.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:37:52am |
I have a feeling this is going to get ugly this afternoon.
Protesters, police clash at Capitol
LANSING — Witnesses say Michigan State Police have deployed chemical agents on the east side of the Capitol after a crowd attempted to move toward the Capitol.
Just after noon a line of Michigan State Police troopers in face shields began assisting Clinton County Sheriff’s Department Mounted Division staff on horses to prevent the crowd from moving toward the Capitol, which is at its capacity of 2,200.
The crowd was chanting “A union united will never be divided.”
Witnesses said after the officers on horses attempted to push the crowd back, and at least one person was knocked down and some sort of pepper spray was dispersed into the crowd. A State Journal reporter did not witness the chemical agent being dispersed but was affected by it.
The crowd was continuing to grow.
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Gus Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:38:19am |
Massive acts of civil disobedience taking place inside the rotunda @ MI statehouse #savemi #noRTWmi yfrog.com/oe1y0edbj— SEIU (@SEIU) December 11, 2012
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b_sharp Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:40:08am |
re: #290 NJDhockeyfan
I have a feeling this is going to get ugly this afternoon.
The Zombpocalypse begins.
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:43:02am |
re: #288 Gus
The same people that think the minimum wage is a living wage.
Nobody thinks minimum wage is a living wage.
However I have had wingnuts try to "explain" to me that even though Walmart pays its workers less than a minimum wage they are still saving taxpayers money because if they weren't getting that pittance from Walmart
they would be getting EVEN MOAR WELFARE IF THEY'RE NOT WORKING AT ALL!1!ty
I'm like all WTF???
I think WALFARE is a good word to describe people who work but yet make so little that they need government assistance.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:44:16am |
re: #289 Killgore Trout
How've you been? I haven't seen you around for a while.
Hi KT. We went to see my family in Nashville for Thanksgiving. I try to go out there at least once a year. Every time we go we have a great time. My wife is from Virginia and we live in the house she grew up in. I've been telling her I would love to move out there but she tells me no every time.
This time was different. She looked at jobs while we were there and also found a few houses online for sale. They are much cheaper than here. When we got home she told me to find a job out there and she will sell the house while I'm in Nashville. How could I tell her no?
I've been looking at the job sites since then.
:)
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Killgore Trout Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:46:36am |
re: #295 NJDhockeyfan
Hi KT. We went to see my family in Nashville for Thanksgiving. I try to go out there at least once a year. Every time we go we have a great time. My wife is from Virginia and we live in the house she grew up in. I've been telling her I would love to move out there but she tells me no every time.
This time was different. She looked at jobs while we were there and also found a few houses online for sale. They are much cheaper than here. When we got home she told me to find a job out there and she will sell the house while I'm in Nashville. How could I tell her no?
I've been looking at the job sites since then.
:)
Congratulations!
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Gus Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:48:03am |
I like to look for the goodness in people, so I'm gonna presume that Justice Scalia isn't anti-gay, he's just pro-murder.— Andy Richter (@Andy_Richter) December 11, 2012
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:50:30am |
I asked my DIL what do her kids want for Hanukkah. She just texted me that my granddaughter wants a makeup kit. She is 6 years old! SIX YEARS OLD. No freaking way.
I said pick out another room for that big dollhouse that I bought for them last year.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:50:39am |
re: #296 Killgore Trout
Congratulations!
Thanks. Most of the jobs I see are for engineers, retail manager or sales, insurance sales, and ...AVON!
I've applied for a few. Waiting to hear back from any of them.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:52:15am |
re: #300 Vicious Babushka
I asked my DIL what do her kids want for Hanukkah. She just texted me that my granddaughter wants a makeup kit. She is 6 years old! SIX YEARS OLD. No freaking way.
I said pick out another room for that big dollhouse that I bought for them last year.
My 10 year old is putting on makeup. She's learning about that at her modeling school. She just got her ears pierced on Saturday. My baby girl is becoming a little woman before my eyes.
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Targetpractice Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:53:38am |
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Gus Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:54:31am |
re: #303 Varek Raith
Right to work!
For shit wages.
WALFARE™
Hey. Get two people together making minimum wage and you can rent a nice duplex with a refrigerator and air conditioning.
//
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Gus Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:55:53am |
GOP legislator in Michigan: Measure to limit union power was "tough love" for organized labor. nyti.ms/T58IsO— Jim Roberts (@nytjim) December 11, 2012
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:57:43am |
re: #305 Gus
WALFARE™
Hey. Get two people together making minimum wage and you can rent a nice duplex with a refrigerator and air conditioning.
//
WALFARE: For people who have a job (or more than one) which pays so little that they still have to accept government assistance.— Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) December 11, 2012
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 9:58:49am |
Spoke w/former Cong Mark Schauer, confirms he was hit by mace or pepper spray #wkarlive #rtw— Scott Pohl (@scottpohlwkar) December 11, 2012
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Targetpractice Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:01:41am |
re: #306 Gus
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The optimist in me would like to think that voters will show this bastard some "tough love" when he's up for reelection, but the cynic in me says he's probably in a district so gerrymandered that it would go Democrat only after the Second Coming.
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Varek Raith Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:02:33am |
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b_sharp Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:02:40am |
re: #310 Gus
I'm reading that Fox News is back on Park51 again.
The new outrages weren't taking so they had to dig out the old working ones.
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:06:17am |
Don't Republicans know saying "right-to-work" & "Michigan" in the same sentence awakens Michael Moore from hibernation?— Indecision (@indecision) December 11, 2012
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Amory Blaine Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:06:53am |
So now you right wing scum can stop fucking crying about how unions are ruining your country right? Who's next on your list? Fucking fascists.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:06:53am |
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:10:34am |
re: #317 Amory Blaine
So now you right wing scum can stop fucking crying about how unions are ruining your country right? Who's next on your list? Fucking fascists.
Virginia is a right-to-work state and I'm not aware of any problems resulting from that.
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Four More Tears Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:10:43am |
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:11:30am |
Trouble brewing in the back alley @onetoughnerd's office is. Reinforcements in full gear sent. #rtw#democracyinaction twitpic.com/bl47w6— Chris Mitchell (@Chris_Mitchell_) December 11, 2012
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lawhawk Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:11:55am |
re: #310 Gus
The Park51 group hasn't been conducting community activities as they had said, the prayer groups continue, but there's been no construction on site and the facade is unchanged; and from what I recall, the Park51 folks haven't worked out a deal with ConEd on back rents after a judge ruled earlier this year that the valuation on the property was correct.
In other words, things haven't changed. There's still no super mosque on site that will tower over the WTC (kinda hard to do when one realizes that 1WTC overshadows every other structure on the Eastern Seaboard other than the CN Tower and Willis Tower). Heck, even the stump structures at 3WTC is taller than the Park51 building.
From the Post and Fox News crowd, it's sound and fury signifying not much.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:13:15am |
Second police squad at Romney Building will go to north entrance, where civil disobedience reported per #Lansing police scanner #RTW— Brandon Howell (@BHowellMLive) December 11, 2012
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b_sharp Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:14:27am |
re: #320 Four More Tears
X-47B unmanned jet fighter starts light workouts aboard USS Truman (video)
Skynet.
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:15:12am |
re: #319 NJDhockeyfan
Virginia is a right-to-work state and I'm not aware of any problems resulting from that.
other than the fact that the median income has been declining and the middle class has lost nearly half of its wealth...
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Amory Blaine Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:15:58am |
re: #327 Sol Berdinowitz
Right wingers love that shit.
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Eventual Carrion Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:17:34am |
re: #319 NJDhockeyfan
Virginia is a right-to-work state and I'm not aware of any problems resulting from that.
So is Mississippi. How is that working out for them?
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Gus Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:18:57am |
re: #320 Four More Tears
X-47B unmanned jet fighter starts light workouts aboard USS Truman (video)
Union built.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:19:04am |
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:19:31am |
re: #327 Sol Berdinowitz
other than the fact that the median income has been declining and the middle class has lost nearly half of its wealth...
That's nation-wide.
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JAFO Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:19:42am |
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:20:08am |
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:20:24am |
There is little I despise more than unions and collective bargaining. What an anchor on economic growth and a drag on social tranquility.— Brady Cremeens (@brady_cremeens) December 11, 2012
Oh look, a happy Walmart worker! Riding a unicorn that he bought on layaway!
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:21:58am |
re: #334 Sol Berdinowitz
do not follow your logic...
I thought your post about median income declining was meant for Virginia.
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:22:20am |
RT @evale72: great arial shot RT: @joshdorner: Here's a wider shot of the protesters in Lansing. #SaveMI twitter.com/JoshDorner/sta...— AFL-CIO (@AFLCIO) December 11, 2012
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wrenchwench Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:22:22am |
re: #335 Vicious Babushka
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Oh look, a happy Walmart worker! Riding a unicorn that he bought on layaway!
"drag on social tranquility."??? OFFS.
Shut up and get back to work!!
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:23:00am |
re: #335 Vicious Babushka
There is little I despise more than unions and collective bargaining. What an anchor on economic growth and a drag on social tranquility.
I admire America for its virtues of self-reliance and personal initiative.
But how do we expect individuals and families with limited resources to negotiate on equal terms with multi-billion dollar corporations for terms of employment, health care or financial services?
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:23:09am |
Number of cops have tripled in last 15 min outside@onetoughnerd's office. Other than that, nothing to report.twitpic.com/bl4aku— Chris Mitchell (@Chris_Mitchell_) December 11, 2012
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:24:42am |
re: #342 Amory Blaine
Not enough violence.
Relax, they are working on it.
#Lansing #Rtw RT @joedisano: Police preparing to tear gas Romney building protesters. SWAT team on the roof of City Hall.— Donn (@donnf) December 11, 2012
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Amory Blaine Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:25:31am |
Time for talk is over. Fascist republicans do not talk.
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:25:45am |
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Varek Raith Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:26:52am |
1 - Wages in right-to-work states are 3.2% lower than those in non-RTW states.
2 - The rate of employer-sponsored health insurance (ESI) is 2.6 percentage points lower in RTW states compared with non-RTW states.
3 - The rate of employer-sponsored pensions is 4.8 percentage points lower in RTW states.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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Varek Raith Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:28:31am |
If RTW is such a great thing, why did the Gov have to sneak it in?
Hmmm????
/Rhetorical
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Amory Blaine Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:28:48am |
Why split the police off? Fucking hypocrites.
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:29:23am |
re: #346 Varek Raith
1 - Wages in right-to-work states are 3.2% lower than those in non-RTW states.
2 - The rate of employer-sponsored health insurance (ESI) is 2.6 percentage points lower in RTW states compared with non-RTW states.
3 - The rate of employer-sponsored pensions is 4.8 percentage points lower in RTW states.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
thanks for the stats. would be interesting to see them on a state-by-state basis...
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:29:57am |
re: #220 William Barnett-Lewis
Yeah, I saw that. Supposedly they have all the papers, but it was unclear if it was registered with ATF in the 1965 amnesty or not. If yes, $50,000+ transferable NFA weapon. If no, illegal MG that must, by law, be scrapped by ATF with no compensation to the prior owners. ATF is not fun to deal with regarding these kinds of questions. If the Hughes act (thank Reagan, you anti-gun bastard) were repealed it could be added to the registry but right now no civilian can own a new fully automatic or selective fire NFA weapon - and if unregistered, the STG-44 would be considered "new".
There's one exception. It could be donated to a museum, at least in some cases. The NRA Firearms Museum has a number of rare guns that were saved in that manner.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:31:02am |
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Varek Raith Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:34:23am |
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b_sharp Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:36:07am |
re: #351 Dark_Falcon
Don't call upon that nutcase! He hates this whole blog.
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Varek Raith Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:41:10am |
re: #347 Varek Raith
If RTW is such a great thing, why did the Gov have to sneak it in?
Hmmm????
/Rhetorical
Bueller?
Bueller?
Bueller?
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:43:04am |
re: #353 b_sharp
Rodan is the nic of a guy who was banned from LGF years ago, but still hates on Charles and anyone who posts here from his Stalker Blog "Diary of Daedalus".
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Amory Blaine Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:44:00am |
We did this last year in Madison. Peacefully. We put our marching shoes on Mr. President. Where were you?
*crickets*
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Targetpractice Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:44:02am |
re: #356 Varek Raith
Bueller?
Bueller?
Bueller?
The voters just don't know what's good for them. Surely when this law bears fruit, they'll come to love the GOP for passing it.
///
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:44:35am |
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Varek Raith Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:45:50am |
I see we are unable to defend RTW laws.
Shocka!
:)
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Amory Blaine Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:50:02am |
A Michigan State Representative says he's "enjoying" protests over the Right To Work bill.State Representative Dave Agema, a Republican from Grandville, posted a message on his Facebook page shortly after a contentious vote on Michigan's "Right To Work" status.
Some 10,000 people are at the Capitol today, most of them opposed to the bill.
After a 58-51 vote one of the two "Right To Work" bills, Agema posted the following:
"Riot police on horses are now macing and pushing back the crowds who tried to storm the building. I fell like I'm back in the military- I'm rather enjoying this. It brings back memories."
According to his biography, Agema is a former fighter pilot and Lieutenant Colonel with the U.S. Air Force.
Agema is also one of two Michigan representatives to the Republican National Committee.
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wrenchwench Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:51:20am |
re: #361 Varek Raith
I see we are unable to defend RTW laws.
Shocka!
:)
Virginia is a right-to-work state and I'm not aware of any problems resulting from that.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:51:48am |
re: #358 Amory Blaine
We did this last year in Madison. Peacefully. We put our marching shoes on Mr. President. Where were you?
*crickets*
But when the votes were counted, Scott Walker was still governor.
/Sorry about the gloat, but I felt it needed to be said.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:52:42am |
re: #362 Amory Blaine
"Riot police on horses are now macing and pushing back the crowds who tried to storm the building. I fell like I'm back in the military- I'm rather enjoying this. It brings back memories."
State police report 2 arrests, collapsed tent, use of pepper spray outside Michigan Capitol
Michigan State Police say pepper spray has been used to subdue a protester outside the state Capitol who had his hands on a trooper.
Capt. Harold Love says the female trooper was being pulled into a crowd Tuesday. Love says a male trooper standing nearby gave two short bursts of pepper spray to end the incident. There was no arrest.
I don't think attacking female police officers helps the cause very much although I'm glad he's having a time time.
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William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:53:17am |
re: #345 Vicious Babushka
Yeah, I was just remembering that. Remembering Ludlow too. [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:54:03am |
re: #362 Amory Blaine
Says the Air Force guy who has no idea of what the breaking up of a protest looks like from the ground. Mr Agema, thou art a poser.
/spits
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Amory Blaine Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:54:09am |
re: #365 Killgore Trout
What does help the cause? Compromise? Don't make me laugh.
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Targetpractice Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:54:19am |
re: #364 Dark_Falcon
But when the votes were counted, Scott Walker was still governor.
/Sorry about the gloat, but I felt it needed to be said.
It helps when you have over a year to characterize the recall effort as a waste of time and money.
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Gus Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:54:47am |
Scalia. Mussolini. Scalia. Mussolini. Scalia. Mussolini. Scalia. Mussolini. Scalia. Mussolini. Scalia. Mussolini. Scalia. Mussolini. Scalia. Mussolini. Scalia. Mussolini. Scalia. Mussolini. Scalia. Mussolini. Scalia. Mussolini.
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:55:08am |
re: #362 Amory Blaine
I fell like I'm back in the military- I'm rather enjoying this. It brings back memories."
According to his biography, Agema is a former fighter pilot and Lieutenant Colonel with the U.S. Air Force.
He must be fantasizing about dropping napalm on the protesters.
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jaunte Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:55:22am |
re: #362 Amory Blaine
Maybe his grandchildren will find work at WalMart.
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:56:06am |
re: #364 Dark_Falcon
But when the votes were counted, Scott Walker was still governor.
/Sorry about the gloat, but I felt it needed to be said.
I have to grudgingly agree. Unless Scott Walker had done something illegal or blatantly misrepresented himself (which he didn't), the time to "recall" a governor is at election time.
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William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:56:30am |
re: #364 Dark_Falcon
But when the votes were counted, Scott Walker was still governor.
/Sorry about the gloat, but I felt it needed to be said.
Enough believed his lies. The state is being hurt badly because of that and it will take us decades to fix the damage being done.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:58:47am |
re: #376 William Barnett-Lewis
Enough believed his lies. The state is being hurt badly because of that and it will take us decades to fix the damage being done.
More like the Dems had a weak candidate plus Walker didn't have to face a primary. Wisconsin's system of recall is far more favorable to the sitting governor than that of California.
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Amory Blaine Tue, Dec 11, 2012 11:00:57am |
re: #376 William Barnett-Lewis
Turning down that billion dollars for light rail hurts long term recovery and growth. Lines are going in. Just not in Wisconsin. Not to mention everyone around him has been indicted, convicted or turned snitch. John Doe still open. Like the bald spot on his head.
Scott Walker circa 1860: "We need not these wasteful freight trains to transport goods. Our horses are stout, like our women."
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b_sharp Tue, Dec 11, 2012 11:03:06am |
re: #357 Dark_Falcon
Rodan is the nic of a guy who was banned from LGF years ago, but still hates on Charles and anyone who posts here from his Stalker Blog "Diary of Daedalus".
I know. I was making a comment about that Rodan.
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jaunte Tue, Dec 11, 2012 11:04:44am |
If the “right to work” is such an essential freedom, why does Michigan GOP want to deny it to heroic cops and firefighters?
— Matt Yglesias (@mattyglesias) December 11, 2012
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William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Dec 11, 2012 11:07:04am |
re: #377 Dark_Falcon
More like the Dems had a weak candidate plus Walker didn't have to face a primary. Wisconsin's system of recall is far more favorable to the sitting governor than that of California.
Agreed on the weak candidate but he was the best of those who stood. The real problem was that DPW didn't take the Big Lie about the recall being unwarrented seriously and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
But you'll notice that Obama won by almost exactly the same margin Walker did. The people are waking up to the mistakes they made in voting for those who would make them be serfs.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Dec 11, 2012 11:19:55am |
re: #381 William Barnett-Lewis
Agreed on the weak candidate but he was the best of those who stood. The real problem was that DPW didn't take the Big Lie about the recall being unwarrented seriously and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
But you'll notice that Obama won by almost exactly the same margin Walker did. The people are waking up to the mistakes they made in voting for those who would make them be serfs.
It was also that Walker spent months talking about jobs and was able to successfully change the subject of the campaign. The Democrats had wanted a single-issue recall campaign, but Walker (as well as Barrett's victory) ensured that was not what ended up happening.
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