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1 MichaelJ  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 12:22:24pm

Amazon also has the new Rolling Stones album, Grrr! for $5.99 in MP3 format.

2 Randall Gross  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:12:06pm

MP3's, streaming movies, and Amazon Gift cards are all great last minute gifts if you've forgotten someone.

3 wrenchwench  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:26:48pm
4 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:30:49pm

Mitt Romneys son Tagg claims Romney really didn't want to be President anyways!!

The story behind Mitt Romney’s loss in the presidential campaign to President Obama

But Romney’s strategists worried that stressing his personal side would backfire, and a rift opened ­between some in Romney’s circle and his strategists that lasted until the convention. More than being reticent, Romney was at first far from sold on a second presidential run. Haunted by his 2008 loss, he initially told his family he would not do it. While candidates often try to portray themselves as reluctant, Tagg insisted his father’s stance was genuine.

“He wanted to be president less than anyone I’ve met in my life. He had no desire to . . . run,” said Tagg, who worked with his mother, Ann, to persuade his father to seek the presidency. “If he could have found someone else to take his place . . . he would have been ecstatic to step aside.

5 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:31:11pm
6 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:33:34pm

That's a great painting.

7 Kragar  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:34:25pm

Speaking of Christmas sales, Dead Island is awesome

8 Kragar  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:35:42pm

I keep finding myself wishing people Happy Christmas.

9 TedStriker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:36:37pm

re: #8 Kragar

I keep finding myself wishing people Happy Christmas.

Better than 'Merry Holidays'!

///

10 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:37:08pm

re: #8 Kragar

I keep finding myself wishing people Happy Christmas.

What, no Festivus greetings?

11 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:37:55pm

There are a lot of great deals on music at Amazon's MP3 Store today:

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

12 Gus  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:39:46pm

I'm willing to bet there's a bunch of dumb wingnuts out there saying Merry Christmas to people a lot thinking they'll piss "some librul" off.

13 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:39:54pm

re: #10 Targetpractice

That is why I usually sign cards with Happy Holidays. It usually covers most holidays.

14 dragonath  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:40:02pm

re: #3 wrenchwench

I get a total Heinrich Bruning vibe from his avatar.

15 TedStriker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:41:32pm

re: #10 Targetpractice

What, no Festivus greetings?

The Airing of Grievances starts shortly.

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16 Kragar  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:42:03pm

re: #9 TedStriker

Better than 'Merry Holidays'!

///

Happy Christmas is second only to "You too" for my holiday wellwishing

17 wrenchwench  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:43:11pm

re: #14 dragonath

I get a total Heinrich Bruning vibe from his avatar.

I think he'd like that. In a dismal, despairing way.

18 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:44:35pm

re: #7 Kragar

Speaking of Christmas sales, Dead Island is awesome

Yeah, it really is a great game. Didn't finish it, but I got pretty far before getting stuck. I should load it up again and try to reach the end.

19 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:45:18pm

re: #12 Gus

I'm willing to bet there's a bunch of dumb wingnuts out there saying Merry Christmas to people a lot thinking they'll piss "some librul" off.

Merry Christmas, Gus!!

///

20 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:45:41pm

Amazon has Dead Island today for 74% off.

21 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:45:44pm

re: #15 TedStriker

The Airing of Grievances starts shortly.

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Feats Of Strength after dessert!

22 dragonath  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:46:50pm

re: #17 wrenchwench

I love that picture. It's so ...German.

23 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:49:09pm

re: #15 TedStriker

The Airing of Grievances starts shortly.

///

For the orthodox follower, it never ends.

24 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:50:34pm

re: #22 dragonath

I love that picture. It's so ...German.

See lots of photos of that era and nobody, nobody is smiling

Any photo my grandparents (immigrants from Europe, all 4 of them) were in no matter how old they were in the photo, no matter what the occasion (weddings, vacations, funerals) NOBODY was smiling

25 Kragar  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:52:18pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

Amazon has Dead Island today for 74% off.

Its $6.79 on Steam today.

26 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:52:52pm

re: #24 sattv4u2

See lots of photos of that era and nobody, nobody is smiling

Any photo my grandparents (immigrants from Europe, all 4 of them) were in no matter how old they were in the photo, no matter what the occasion (weddings, vacations, funerals) NOBODY was smiling

Nobody smiles in old-timey photos because the exposure time was too long to hold a smile. You had to say CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE!

27 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:53:50pm

re: #26 Vicious Michigan Union Thug

Nobody smiles in old-timey photos because the exposure time was too long to hold a smile. You had to say CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE!

LOL

I just figured that their dental plans SUCKED !!

//

28 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 2:58:57pm

Entrepreneurship:

A woman is having an affair during the day while her husband is at work. Her 9 year old son comes home unexpectedly, sees them and hides in the bedroom closet to watch. The woman's husband also comes home so she puts her lover in the closet not realizing that her son is hiding in there.

The little boy says ''It's dark in here''
The man replies ''Yes, it is''
Boy - "I have a baseball."
Man - "That's nice."
Boy - "Want to buy it?"
Man - "No, thanks."
Boy - "My dad's outside."
Man - "OK, how much?"
Boy - "$250"

In the next few weeks, it happens again that the boy and the lover are in the closet together once again.
Boy - "Dark in here."
Man - "Yes, it is."
Boy - "I have a baseball glove."
The lover remembering the last time, asks the boy,
"How much?"
Boy - "$750"
Man - "Fine."

A few days later, the father says to the boy, "Grab
your glove, let's go outside and have a game of catch."
The boy says, "I can't, I sold my baseball and my glove."
The father asks, "How much did you sell them for?"
Boy - "$1,000"
The father says, "That's terrible to overcharge your friends like
that... that is way more than those two things cost. I'm going to take you to church and make you confess."
They go to the church and the father makes the little boy sit in the confession booth and he closes the door.
The boy says, "Dark in here."
The priest says, "Don't start that shit again!''

29 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:01:02pm

re: #15 TedStriker

The Airing of Grievances starts shortly.

///

"Stop crying and hit your father!"

30 Gus  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:04:26pm
31 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:05:13pm

re: #28 Shiplord Kirel

Heard it a few times before, but it gives me a laugh each time

(one of those times, it was told by a priest in our parish during our mens club meeting)

32 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:06:30pm

re: #25 Kragar

Its $6.79 on Steam today.

Damn, that's pretty tempting. I was going to hold off on game purchases until the next Sim City. If I get bored drunk enough tonight I might buy it.

33 TedStriker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:06:46pm

re: #29 Pawn of the Oppressor

"Stop crying and hit your father!"

Take a gander at Google's search results for Festivus:
[Link: www.google.com...]
(Look on the left...)

34 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:07:12pm

re: #33 TedStriker

Take a gander at Google's search results for Festivus:
[Link: www.google.com...]
(Look on the left...)

Showing off your pole, huh?

35 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:07:17pm

re: #30 Gus

Image: mojo-obama-conspiracy.png

Where's the "Self-obsessed prick" circle?

//

36 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:09:03pm

re: #35 Targetpractice

Where's the "Self-obsessed prick" circle?

//

Showing off your pole, huh?

/

37 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:09:43pm

re: #36 sattv4u2

Showing off your pole, huh?

/

Damnit, did I leave my zipper down again?

//

38 Kragar  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:10:42pm

re: #32 Killgore Trout

Damn, that's pretty tempting. I was going to hold off on game purchases until the next Sim City. If I get bored drunk enough tonight I might buy it.

They're doing there big holiday sale right now, with specials changing every day until January.

39 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:10:53pm

re: #37 Targetpractice

Damnit, did I leave my zipper down again?

//

Wouldn't you need to be wearing pants for that to matter?

40 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:12:21pm

re: #39 sattv4u2

Wouldn't you need to be wearing pants for that to matter?

Hey, if Charles doesn't set a dress code, then it's my choice!

//

41 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:16:56pm

re: #32 Killgore Trout

Damn, that's pretty tempting. I was going to hold off on game purchases until the next Sim City. If I get bored drunk enough tonight I might buy it.

I'm still trying to master PONG!

42 Cinnabar  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:17:22pm

re: #32 Killgore Trout

Damn, that's pretty tempting. I was going to hold off on game purchases until the next Sim City. If I get bored drunk enough tonight I might buy it.

And if you're in the market for older games, don't forget to check gog.com -- they're doing their usual big sale.

43 jaunte  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:18:43pm

Scimitar Horn Oryx is extinct in the wild. Must have been vulnerable to assholes.

44 Cinnabar  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:20:56pm

re: #13 PhillyPretzel

That is why I usually sign cards with Happy Holidays. It usually covers most holidays.

Before we all left for the holiday break (Christmas and New Years), I wished the most fervent Christian in the office (as far as I know) a good holiday. Why no "Merry Christmas?" She's orthodox, Christmas is January 6.

45 Gus  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:23:22pm

re: #43 jaunte

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Scimitar Horn Oryx is extinct in the wild. Must have been vulnerable to assholes.

Fuck these wildlife ranch "hunters."

46 HappyWarrior  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:23:40pm

re: #44 Cinnabar

Before we all left for the holiday break (Christmas and New Years), I wished the most fervent Christian in the office (as far as I know) a good holiday. Why no "Merry Christmas?" She's orthodox, Christmas is January 6.

Heh I bet that would go over a lot of the people who spaz about Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays out but I know it. My grandmother grew up Greek Catholic so she didn't celebrate Christmas on the 25th until she converted to RCC when she married my grandfather.

47 TedStriker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:23:45pm

re: #43 jaunte

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Scimitar Horn Oryx is extinct in the wild. Must have been vulnerable to assholes.

Ted Nugent, douchebag extraordinare.

How's that canned hunting, Uncle Ted?

48 HappyWarrior  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:24:36pm

re: #43 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Scimitar Horn Oryx is extinct in the wild. Must have been vulnerable to assholes.

Can't be any better than Has Been Rocker Who Craps His Pants and Talks Shit.

49 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:26:34pm

re: #45 Gus

Fuck these wildlife ranch "hunters."

Why? It's actually safer, more regulated and (aside from any dislike for Nugent) the people that sign up are (for the most part) avid conservationalists

There are several such places around Georgia. I've been to one myself (although I didn't hunt while there)

50 Gus  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:28:01pm

re: #49 sattv4u2

Why? It's actually safer, more regulated and (aside from any dislike for Nugent) the people that sign up are (for the most part) avid conservationalists

There are several such places around Georgia. I've been to one myself (although I didn't hunt while there)

Pre-packaged "big game" hunting assholes. They can go screw themselves.

51 Usually refered to as anyways  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:29:26pm

re: #49 sattv4u2

I've been to one myself (although I didn't hunt while there)

I see what you did there.

You forgot to mention you shot the shit out of anything that moved all the way there and back, didn't you!

52 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:32:12pm

re: #51 Usually refered to as anyways

I see what you did there.

You forgot to mention you shot the shit out of anything that moved all the way there and back, didn't you!

shhhh

Yup. I bagged a 5 point Right Rear Tire off that asses SUV that cut me off on Rte 75!!!

//

53 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:34:12pm

re: #51 Usually refered to as anyways

Here's the one we went to a couple of months ago

[Link: www.flatcreeklodge.com...]

54 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:37:35pm

re: #53 sattv4u2

Here's the one we went to a couple of months ago

[Link: www.flatcreeklodge.com...]

You monster!
/
Seriously, looks like they make some nice cheese too.

55 Obdicut  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:37:57pm

re: #49 sattv4u2

You're conflating a ranch like the one you listed, which is for pheasant hunting, with a ranch that has endangered animals to shoot.

This is very silly.

56 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:38:17pm

re: #54 Killgore Trout

You monster!
/
Seriously, looks like they make some nice cheese too.

The food and amenities were AWESOME

57 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:38:47pm

Sheesh! The stampede to buy guns and ammo has reached epic dimensions. Cheaper than Dirt has almost sold out of .22 LR ammunition, .22 for crying out loud, and this after they raised prices to unprecedented levels.

Given the low probability of major military operations, it wouldn't surprise me if someone like the Brazilian or South African armies decided to ship half their 5.56 reserve ammo here as an emergency fund-raising operation.

58 Obdicut  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:41:16pm

The canned hunts for predators are really the most pathetic, I think. I mean, part of the whole fantasy is man vs. the wild beast, the stalked becoming the stalker. Kind of ruins that illusion when the animal has been raised around humans. Then you're just blasting chunks in animals that might as well be tied down.

There was some Prussian ruler who liked to machine-gun herds of deer.

59 jaunte  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:41:26pm

re: #57 Shiplord Kirel

High-consumption ammo marketing:

60 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:46:48pm

Banana republic colonel: "Si, mi general, I have completed the inventory on our 5.56 ammunition!"

General: "Excellent! How much do we have?"

Colonel: "11.2 million rounds altogether."

General: "And how much did that cost us?"

Colonel: "1.4 million dollars, including the cost to the Americans of what they sent in aid."

General: "And how much can we get for it?"

Colonel: "Latest bid was 90 cents a round."

General: "LOAD THE PLANES! MIAMI HERE WE COME!"

Colonel: "But, general, what about the rebels in the hills?"

General: "Offer them a deal. See how much they want for their AK ammo."

61 jaunte  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:47:07pm

Ted Nugent gloating over eating an endangered oryx reminds me of this Howard Waldrop short story:

The Ugly Chickens
[Link: lexal.net...]

62 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:53:25pm

re: #55 Obdicut

You're conflating a ranch like the one you listed, which is for pheasant, white tailed dear, wild turkeys and wild boar, hunting, with a ranch that has endangered animals to shoot.

This is very silly.

ftfy

63 TedStriker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:54:51pm

re: #55 Obdicut

You're conflating a ranch like the one you listed, which is for pheasant hunting, with a ranch that has endangered animals to shoot.

This is very silly.

Should we expect any less from satt?

He's defending Ted Nugent doing a canned hunt on an animal that is extinct in the wild...I mean, WTF?!?

64 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:55:25pm

Maybe the American gun culture can finally create peace on Earth simply by buying up the entire world stockpile of small arms ammunition. //

65 RadicalModerate  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:55:35pm

re: #43 jaunte

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Scimitar Horn Oryx is extinct in the wild. Must have been vulnerable to assholes.

Since this particular species of oryx is on the United States Endangered Species list, isn't hunting it a federal crime?

[Link: ecos.fws.gov...]

66 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:56:21pm

re: #61 jaunte

Ted Nugent gloating over eating an endangered oryx reminds me of this Howard Waldrop short story:

The Ugly Chickens
[Link: lexal.net...]

It reminds me about the guy here in Wisconsin who was busted for poaching after telling a warden that swan tastes like goose...

67 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:56:55pm

re: #65 RadicalModerate

Since this particular species of oryx is on the United States Endangered Species list, isn't hunting it a federal crime?

[Link: ecos.fws.gov...]


Texas Hunt Lodge has US Fish and Wildlife CITIES permits which accompany your Scimitar Oryx Trophies so that they are taken legally and can be exported out of the country.

[Link: www.texashuntlodge.com...]

Apparently not!!

68 TedStriker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 3:59:17pm

re: #62 sattv4u2

ftfy

Which are, for the most part, animals that are indigenous to that area, am I right?

Nugent was hunting Scimitar Horn Oryxs, a species that is extinct in the wild, in what sounds to be a canned hunt; how can any responsible hunter defend that?

69 Kragar  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:00:15pm

Remember folks, God gave us mastery over every thing on earth so God's totally cool with killing endangered species. Says so in the Bible.
///

70 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:00:23pm

re: #61 jaunte

Ted Nugent gloating over eating an endangered oryx reminds me of this Howard Waldrop short story:

The Ugly Chickens
[Link: lexal.net...]

Read the story now too. How... fitting...

71 Obdicut  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:00:44pm

re: #62 sattv4u2

ftfy

Which are not endangered animals.

So again: Silly.

72 jaunte  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:01:44pm

re: #68 TedStriker

The canned hunt operators argue for an exception on the grounds that they will maintain a breeding population that can occasionally be reintroduced to wild habitats. So it's kind of like getting a permit to shoot zoo animals.

73 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:03:01pm

re: #71 Obdicut

Which are not endangered animals.

So again: Silly.

Then your beef is with our gov't who sanctions and permits the farms as well as the exportation of the game

Texas Hunt Lodge has US Fish and Wildlife CITIES permits which accompany your Scimitar Oryx Trophies so that they are taken legally and can be exported out of the country.

[Link: www.texashuntlodge.com...]

74 TedStriker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:03:32pm

re: #72 jaunte

The canned hunt operators argue for an exception on the grounds that they will maintain a breeding population that can occasionally be reintroduced to wild habitats. So it's kind of like getting a permit to shoot zoo animals.

Pretty much.

I wonder if ol' Uncle Ted did the deed with a AR-15...

75 jaunte  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:04:26pm

re: #74 TedStriker

Based on his twitter timeline, this time he was up in a blind with a bow and waited for it to wander by.

76 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:04:56pm

re: #74 TedStriker

Pretty much.

I wonder if ol' Uncle Ted did the deed with a AR-15?

Looks as if this particular lodge tells you what you can hunt with

Hunters of Trophy Scimitar-Horned Oryx can choose the Spot and Stalk method, Bow Hunting, Rifle Hunting, Black Powder, Safari Style Hunting, Handgun, as well as hunting from a Blind

77 TedStriker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:05:38pm

re: #75 jaunte

Based on his twitter timeline, this time he was up in a blind with a bow and waited for it to wander by.

No doubt sitting on the edge of a wide-open field that's been baited all to hell.

78 Obdicut  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:06:12pm

re: #73 sattv4u2

It's amazing how you always know who my beef is with, and it's not actually who its with.

See, I thought I was saying a hunter who likes to shoot endangered animals in canned hunts is stupid, because of the fakeness of it and the absurd mockery it makes of any positive aspect of hunting.

But apparently, even though I haven't said I want him to be prevented from shooting them, my beef is actually with the government for simply allowing this to happen. Because obviously, I want things I find stupid banned.

79 TedStriker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:08:16pm

re: #76 sattv4u2

Looks as if this particular lodge tells you what you can hunt with

Hunters of Trophy Scimitar-Horned Oryx can choose the Spot and Stalk method, Bow Hunting, Rifle Hunting, Black Powder, Safari Style Hunting, Handgun, as well as hunting from a Blind

No mention if ARs are prohibited from the Rifle Hunting category.

80 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:09:33pm

re: #74 TedStriker

re: #75 jaunte

Please keep in mind that Mr Nugent is a self admitted braggart. I would take anything he says or texts with a very large grain of salt.

81 jaunte  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:11:01pm

re: #80 PhillyPretzel

On this, I believe him.
[Link: www.tednugent.com...]

82 Obdicut  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:11:47pm

re: #77 TedStriker

No doubt sitting on the edge of a wide-open field that's been baited all to hell.

The sad part is, hunters are often great conservationists, I mean, real conservationists, helping to protect wetlands and other very vulnerable environments. But these are hunters who like actual hunting-- going out into the countryside, relying on their own skill and knowledge of the animals to find them. What Nugent did here isn't really hunting, it's shooting an animal.

83 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:13:10pm

re: #81 jaunte

Sunrize Ranch is a Ted Nugent property.

84 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:13:29pm

re: #79 TedStriker

No mention if ARs are prohibited from the Rifle Hunting category.

Texas doesn't care what caliber of ammunition or type of rifle action you hunt game animals with as long as it's neither rimfire primed nor full-auto.

85 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:14:46pm

re: #84 goddamnedfrank

Texas doesn't care what caliber of ammunition or type of rifle action you hunt game animals with as long as it's neither rimfire primed nor full-auto.

fully automatic firearms are NOT LEGAL.

86 jaunte  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:16:30pm

The distinction between fully automatic and "controlled rapid firing" is rapidly disappearing.

87 Obdicut  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:16:33pm

re: #85 sattv4u2

fully automatic firearms are NOT LEGAL. strongly regulated, but not illegal

88 wrenchwench  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:16:37pm

re: #4 Amory Blaine

Mitt Romneys son Tagg claims Romney really didn't want to be President anyways.!!

The story behind Mitt Romney’s loss in the presidential campaign to President Obama

That's a good article. But this paragraph from the last page should have been earlier, with more follow up on its content:

Exit polls told a stunning story. The majority of voters preferred Romney’s visions, values, and leadership. But he had clearly failed to address the problem that Romney’s own family worried about from the start. Obama beat Romney by an astonishing 81 to 18 percent margin on the question of which candidate “cares about people like me.”

89 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:17:11pm

re: #85 sattv4u2

fully automatic firearms are NOT LEGAL.

AR as a category doesn't mean fully automatic. The only fully automatic weapons legal to posses by civilians were manufactured and NFA registered before 1986.

90 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:17:29pm

DiY advice from Gun Watch (via Free Republic)

Make (or print) Your Own AR-15 Magazines

The push to ban standard magazines is insane. It is easier to make a 30 round magazine than it is to grow a marijuana plant. The left is pursuing an unachievable result that will not help stop mass murder.

blah, blah

One freeper optimistically suggests that anti-gun elements will lose votes in the next election:

It will be a pretty efficient way for them to lose Dem and RINO seats in the House and Senate in 2014 too.

Another responds with ominous authority:

There will be no elections during martial law.

91 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:18:44pm

It's interesting how these things are not as simple as they seem
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Where once they occupied the whole Sahara Desert, they are now considered to be extinct in the wild, with no confirmed sightings in the wild for over 15 years.[1] Reports of sightings in Chad and Niger remain unsubstantiated, despite extensive surveys carried out throughout Chad and Niger in 2001-2004 in an effort to detect Sahelo-Sahara antelopes.[1] At least until 1985, 500 oryx were estimated to be surviving in Chad and Niger, but by 1988, only a few individuals survived in the wild.

A global captive breeding program was initiated in the 1960s. In 1996, at least 1,250 captive animals were held in zoos and parks around the world, with a further 2,145 on ranches in Texas.[citation needed] In 2005, at least 1,550 captives were managed as part of breeding programmes, and more than 4,000 are believed to be held in private collections in the United Arab Emirates.[1] Fenced in herds in three reserves in Tunisia, one reserve in Morocco and two reserves in Senegal are part of the reintroduction plans.[1]

So that ranch in Texas has almost twice as many onyx (onyxes? Onyxen?) than the rest of the world's zoos. They probably live a better life in the open than penned in a small noisy exhibit. They surely lived a better life than the beef chicken or pork we're all having for dinner tonight.

92 Obdicut  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:19:34pm

re: #90 Shiplord Kirel

It is really easy to grow marijuana plants. Pick a sunny meadow in Northern California, throw down seeds, leave.

To properly do the gender separation on the plants is a hassle. Bet it's still easier than making a magazine, though.

93 Obdicut  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:20:15pm

re: #91 Killgore Trout

I'm not sure you get that people are making fun of Nugent for a canned hunt, and not for being mean to the poor li'l Oryx.

94 jaunte  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:20:58pm
95 Obdicut  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:22:01pm

re: #94 jaunte

Heh. Good catch.

96 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:22:22pm

re: #94 jaunte

That photo in the first link was a beautiful rock.

97 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:22:44pm

re: #93 Obdicut

I'm not sure you get that people are making fun of Nugent for a canned hunt, and not for being mean to the poor li'l Onyx.

That ranch only keeps them because people like uncle ted are willing to pay to kill them. Without the money from the canned hunts the ranch would have no reason to keep them at all.

98 jaunte  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:22:55pm

I would bet Nugent is happy about shooting an oryx because it's an endangered species, not because it had a happy life in its zoo.

99 allegro  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:25:04pm

re: #98 jaunte

I would bet Nugent is happy about shooting an oryx because it's an endangered species, not because it had a happy life in its zoo.

He figures it pisses off libruls. He is a sad creature.

100 TedStriker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:25:33pm

re: #98 jaunte

I would bet Nugent is happy about shooting an oryx because it's an endangered species, not because it had a happy life in its zoo.

DING DING DING

101 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:25:52pm

re: #98 jaunte

I would bet Nugent is happy about shooting an oryx because it's an endangered species, not because it had a happy life in its zoo.

He tried shooting Onyx's, but they didn't taste as good and they chipped his teeth!
/

102 jaunte  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:26:17pm

re: #101 sattv4u2

Sardonyx!

103 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:26:18pm

Personally, for the sake of the game being taken, I don't think it should be legal to hunt deer / mountain goat or other medium game with any cartridge and rifle combination that produces less than 3000 Joules of muzzle energy. That pretty much eliminates all ARs and AKs.

104 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:26:47pm

re: #102 jaunte

Sardonyx!

Those aren't any tastier!

105 Obdicut  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:28:06pm

re: #97 Killgore Trout

That ranch only keeps them because people like uncle ted are willing to pay to kill them. Without the money from the canned hunts the ranch would have no reason to keep them at all.

Hey, let me just go ahead and repeat my last post:

I'm not sure you get that people are making fun of Nugent for a canned hunt, and not for being mean to the poor li'l Oryx.

If you're saying that these canned hunters are actually doing the world good because more Oryx are bred because people want to shoot them, it's pretty stupid. If the goal is "MAXIMIZE NUMBER OF ORYXes" then, sure, but the goal should be to stabilize their habitat and re-introduce them to the wild.

Even if this ranch is some ultracool place that uses the profits it makes from canned hunts to fund habitat restoration and re-introduction of the Oryx in Africa, that'd make the ranch cool, not the canned hunters.

106 TedStriker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:29:37pm

re: #105 Obdicut

Hey, let me just go ahead and repeat my last post:

If you're saying that these canned hunters are actually doing the world good because more Oryx are bred because people want to shoot them, it's pretty stupid. If the goal is "MAXIMIZE NUMBER OF ORYXes" then, sure, but the goal should be to stabilize their habitat and re-introduce them to the wild.

Even if this ranch is some ultracool place that uses the profits it makes from canned hunts to fund habitat restoration and re-introduction of the Oryx's in Africa, that'd make the ranch cool, not the canned hunters.

The canned hunters would just be lameasses.

Like Uncle Ted.

107 jaunte  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:31:19pm

What really needs to be hunted in West Texas are feral pigs. But they're hard to find.

108 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:32:58pm

re: #107 jaunte

What really needs to be hunted in West Texas are feral pigs. But they're hard to find.

Dinners ready!!

Image: wildhogs.jpg

109 jaunte  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:33:26pm

re: #108 sattv4u2

It's The Baconator.

110 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:33:36pm

re: #107 jaunte

What really needs to be hunted in West Texas are feral pigs. But they're hard to find.

[Link: www.smithsonianmag.com...]

111 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:33:44pm

re: #109 jaunte

It's The Baconator.

The pig, or the kid !?!?!

112 Obdicut  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:34:52pm

re: #107 jaunte

What really needs to be hunted in West Texas are feral pigs. But they're hard to find.

Pigs are a canny, canny, canny thing to hunt. California actively calls for wild pig hunts every once in awhile. I helped out on one-- not doing actual shooting-- when I was a volunteer at the Academy of Sciences. They're terrors on the environment in a lot of ways. Anyway, the Academy owns a lot of land in Northern California and when the state or county called for a pig hunt they'd license and supervise people. A lot of the hunters were experienced guys with sensible hunting plans and they'd come back with nothing.

Among other things, the pigs take a lot of advantage of the shallow one or two foot gullies that open up in the dry earth of Northern California hills. They run along in these, and with their dun color and low profile they can be twenty feet from you and you'll see nothing because they're in a tiny little gully that you can't even see is there.

And the boars will rush at you and slash at your groin with tusks, so that's exciting.

113 jaunte  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:35:57pm

re: #112 Obdicut

From satt's link:

“They’re just so smart, that’s why I love them,” he says. “You can fool deer 50 percent of the time, but hogs’ll win 90 percent of the time.”
[Link: www.smithsonianmag.com...]

114 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:36:40pm

re: #107 jaunte

What really needs to be hunted in West Texas are feral pigs. But they're hard to find.

Plus they can be actually dangerous to hunt. We wouldn't want Uncle Ted crapping himself again, after all...

115 CuriousLurker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:38:08pm

re: #112 Obdicut

And the boars will rush at you and slash at your groin with tusks, so that's exciting.

Heh, well that'll definitely keep you n your toes. My older brother used to occasionally hunt javelina back in Texas. Wily, bad-tempered little critters.

116 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:38:49pm

re: #114 William Barnett-Lewis

Plus they can be actually dangerous to hunt. We wouldn't want Uncle Ted crapping himself again, after all...

iirc, he's said to have hunted wild boar

117 jaunte  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:39:31pm

re: #112 Obdicut

A photographer friend in Miami used to go hunting wild pigs in the Everglades, stalking through areas that were about 4ft deep in water, with frequent potholes to drop your foot into. He did it with a handgun, which would have been pretty exciting, given the alligators.

118 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:39:55pm

re: #116 sattv4u2

Yes. He bragged about that in G-d, Guns and Rock'n'Roll.

119 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:40:29pm

re: #118 PhillyPretzel

Yes. He bragged about that in G-d, Guns and Rock'n'Roll.

bow and arrow (or crossbow) iirc

120 Obdicut  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:41:06pm

re: #117 jaunte

My brother John did research and wildlife management of bears down in Florida swamps, and he said the only reliable way of foot travel through the swamp was to look for the pig paths and follow those.

121 CuriousLurker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:41:18pm

re: #117 jaunte

E gad, you couldn't get me within 100 yds. of water with alligators in it. Uh-uh, no way, Jose.

122 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:41:37pm

I don't know why we don't eat more geese, ducks and rabbits, The damn things are all over the place and often considered nuisances and pests. Still damn expensive when you find them at the butchers.

123 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:41:41pm

re: #119 sattv4u2

I would have to dig up my copy to check it. I do not want to dig through my pile of books.

124 CuriousLurker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:42:15pm

re: #118 PhillyPretzel

Hey, Philly, was that your Parker fountain pen I saw posted earlier?

125 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:42:18pm

re: #117 jaunte

A photographer friend in Miami used to go hunting wild pigs in the Everglades, stalking through areas that were about 4ft deep in water, with frequent potholes to drop your foot into. He did it with a handgun, which would have been pretty exciting, given the alligators.

I'd be like Marlin Perkins

"While Jim is out in the wild, I'll be sitting here in the comfy studio wearing my hunting jacket while having a nice Earl Grey Tea"

126 Obdicut  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:42:39pm

re: #118 PhillyPretzel

Yes. He bragged about that in G-d, Guns and Rock'n'Roll.

Even then-- a lot of 'wild boar' are wild boar that have been raised for canned hunts, or herded into the area for the hunt.

127 CuriousLurker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:42:45pm

re: #122 Killgore Trout

I don't know why we don't eat more geese, ducks and rabbits, The damn things are all over the place and often considered nuisances and pests. Still damn expensive when you find them at the butchers.

Or frogs... //

128 jaunte  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:42:53pm

re: #121 CuriousLurker

Back when we lived down there, the local news was constantly talking about someone's pet getting lost to an alligator that came up out of the canal running past their back yard.

129 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:43:21pm

re: #118 PhillyPretzel

Yes. He bragged about that in G-d, Guns and Rock'n'Roll.

I understand that Sarah has hunted caribou too...

130 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:43:37pm

re: #122 Killgore Trout

I don't know why we don't eat more geese, ducks and rabbits, The damn things are all over the place and often considered nuisances and pests. Still damn expensive when you find them at the butchers.

Had a LOT of rabbit when I was a kid

Maternal grandmother would use that in her pasta sauce at times instead of chicken or pork

131 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:43:40pm

re: #124 CuriousLurker

Yes. It was. I cannot get it to load to the images library. It must be the fact that I am new to Mac. Very frustrating.

132 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:43:54pm

re: #127 CuriousLurker

Or frogs... //

Thats just mean!!
(and funny)

133 CuriousLurker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:44:12pm

re: #128 jaunte

Back when we lived down there, the local news was constantly talking about someone's pet getting lost to an alligator that came up out of the canal running past their back yard.

Uugggggghhhh! *shudder*

134 wrenchwench  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:44:28pm

re: #115 CuriousLurker

Heh, well that'll definitely keep you n your toes. My older brother used to occasionally hunt javelina back in Texas. Wily, bad-tempered little critters.

A couple of weeks ago, I was riding my bike home from work and I saw something that looked like a humpbacked dog in the street two blocks away. It crossed the street, then I saw it coming towards me, with four more behind it. Javalinas. They stayed on their side of the street, and I stayed on mine, and we were all OK. Then one more came running by to catch up with his buddies.

135 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:45:04pm

re: #121 CuriousLurker

E gad, you couldn't get me within 100 yds. of water with alligators in it. Uh-uh, no way, Jose.

Our condo in South Carolina sits at the edge of a pond (on a golf course) that has at least 2 gators in it

136 CuriousLurker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:46:29pm

re: #131 PhillyPretzel

Yes. It was. I cannot get it to load to the images library. It must be the fact that I am new to Mac. Very frustrating.

I wish I could help, but I've never tried that. :(

That pen is gorgeous! I got into fountain pens earlier this year. Can't afford a really nice one though--too expensive. I'd love to own one with a nice flex nib.

137 Kragar  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:46:45pm

re: #116 sattv4u2

iirc, he's said to have hunted wild boar

I think he meant he is a wild bore.

138 Kragar  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:47:15pm

re: #129 William Barnett-Lewis

I understand that Sarah has hunted caribou too...

SHE EDITED IT TO THE GROUND!

139 Obdicut  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:48:05pm

re: #137 Kragar

I think he meant he is a wild bore.

Apparently he's both hunted wild boar in Texas and been blamed, in Texas, for contributing to the wild boar problem by keeping large herds of wild boar on his ranch to hunt.

Yeah, that's fucking stupid. The countryside is swarming with them, you don't need to keep a population to hunt on your private ranch with them surely escaping all the damn time.

140 CuriousLurker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:48:17pm

re: #134 wrenchwench

A couple of weeks ago, I was riding my bike home from work and I saw something that looked like a humpbacked dog in the street two blocks away. It crossed the street, then I saw it coming towards me, with four more behind it. Javalinas. They stayed on their side of the street, and I stayed on mine, and we were all OK. Then one more came running by to catch up with his buddies.

Yikes! I was just watching a European nature documentary last night that had wild pigs in it. The piglets were tooooo cute. The mom, not so much. Wouldn't want to get on her bad side. O_o

141 jaunte  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:48:37pm

re: #135 sattv4u2

Our condo in South Carolina sits at the edge of a pond (on a golf course) that has at least 2 gators in it

Swimmin' hole
[Link: www.panoramio.com...]

142 CuriousLurker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:48:54pm

re: #135 sattv4u2

Our condo in South Carolina sits at the edge of a pond (on a golf course) that has at least 2 gators in it

Gaaahhhhhh!

143 CuriousLurker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:49:45pm

re: #141 jaunte

Swimmin' hole
[Link: www.panoramio.com...]

Oh, HELL NO.

144 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:50:24pm

Feral hogs have invaded Lubbock in the last 10 years. They were unknown here before that. They are hard to deal with inside the city, where they occasionally show up. Tranquilizer darts are ineffective since they bounce off the critter's thick hide. The story mentions a bow hunter being summoned to dispose of one on a local golf course a few years ago. As mentioned earlier, wild hogs can be extremely dangerous. They are the reason I always have a gun, usually a 12 gauge with slugs, close at hand when I'm working on the farm.

145 BongCrodny  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:50:59pm

re: #135 sattv4u2

Our condo in South Carolina sits at the edge of a pond (on a golf course) that has at least 2 gators in it

That's one pretty damn impressive water hazard.

146 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:51:35pm

re: #145 BongCrodny

That's one pretty damn impressive water hazard.

Lets just say everyone takes their penalty stroke and moves along!!

147 jaunte  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:51:50pm

re: #145 BongCrodny

They must have a stash of golf balls down there like Smaug's treasure.

148 researchok  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:52:09pm

re: #135 sattv4u2

Our condo in South Carolina sits at the edge of a pond (on a golf course) that has at least 2 gators in it

That isn't so bad. You could have had a condo next to my ex mother in law.

149 stabby  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:52:46pm

re: #99 allegro

He figures it pisses off libruls. He is a sad creature.

If he shoots an okapi I'm gonna have a sad.

I remember one from the San Diego wild animal park that used to come up to the bridge to be fed.

They put in electric fences to stop her :(

150 BongCrodny  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:53:57pm

re: #147 jaunte

They must have a stash of golf balls down there like Smaug's treasure.

Gators in the lake, tigers in the woods, rattlesnakes on the fairway, scorpions on the green.

I say let's make this game worth playing!

151 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:55:47pm

re: #150 BongCrodny

tigers in the woods

I think he got in trouble for being in something else!!!!!
/

152 A Man for all Seasons  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:58:39pm

re: #150 BongCrodny

Gators in the lake, tigers in the woods, rattlesnakes on the fairway, scorpions on the green.

I say let's make this game worth playing!

You have to be careful playing in Kuala Lumpur. Monkeys climb down from trees and steal your Irons and there are cobras in the fairway.

153 researchok  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 4:59:44pm

re: #152 A Man for all Seasons

At least your putter is safe

154 Four More Tears  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:00:31pm

Feel the Christmas spirit!

Best Buy employee asks for receipt, allegedly attacked

However, as CBS St. Louis reports, at the Fairview Heights Best Buy in St. Louis, an altercation allegedly occurred when a 61-year-old employee asked a couple if he could inspect their receipt.
Latoya Thompson, 38, allegedly found the request somewhat offensive. The result was that she has been charged with disorderly conduct and her 39-year-old husband Hickey with felony aggravated battery, after the employee was allegedly beaten to the ground.

155 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:04:09pm

re: #154 Four More Tears

What is wrong with asking to see a receipt? They do it all the time at BJ's.

156 researchok  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:05:27pm

re: #155 PhillyPretzel

Costco too.

You can't leave without showing a receipt

157 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:06:39pm

re: #108 sattv4u2

Dinners ready!!

Image: wildhogs.jpg

I'm pretty sure that is a Photoshop.

158 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:06:44pm

re: #156 researchok

Costco too.

You can't leave without showing a receipt

Haven't seen it done in awhile, but if you have a cart full of stuff I've seen WalMart greeters ask for one as you leave

159 Kragar  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:06:48pm

re: #155 PhillyPretzel

What is wrong with asking to see a receipt? They do it all the time at BJ's.

The obvious answer is that all receipt checkers need to be armed with AR-15s.
/NRA response

160 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:07:06pm

re: #157 Vicious Michigan Union Thug

I'm pretty sure that is a Photoshop.

Yeah. I thought that kid looked odd!!

//

161 Bubblehead II  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:08:09pm

re: #155 PhillyPretzel

What is wrong with asking to see a receipt? They do it all the time at BJ's.

Probably thought they were being accused/suspected of shoplifting. Our local Costco wants to see the receipt as well as checking bags. Especially for high end items.

162 CuriousLurker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:08:20pm

re: #155 PhillyPretzel

So what exactly are you trying to do with Flickr & your Mac again? Are you trying to get them from Flickr into iPhoto?

163 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:09:27pm

re: #162 CuriousLurker
Yes. But I could not get it to upload to the LGF image library.

164 CuriousLurker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:10:24pm

re: #157 Vicious Michigan Union Thug

I'm pretty sure that is a Photoshop.

Hogzilla

165 researchok  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:10:59pm

Silent Monks singing Handel's Messiah Chorus

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

166 Obdicut  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:11:53pm

re: #155 PhillyPretzel

What is wrong with asking to see a receipt? They do it all the time at BJ's.

I find it really rude; they don't actually have a right to stop you anyway so I just say "No thanks, have a good day" and walk out.

167 stabby  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:13:41pm

re: #151 sattv4u2

Downding for bad pun!

168 CuriousLurker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:14:08pm

re: #163 PhillyPretzel

Yes. But I could not get it to upload to the LGF image library.

Ohhhh, that image library. Well, at 846.36 KB, the 1024 x 768 is way too big. There's a 400 KB limit on image uploads. Did you try a smaller one?

169 researchok  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:14:13pm

re: #162 CuriousLurker

Hell of a Luau

170 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:14:34pm

re: #167 stabby

Downding for bad pun!

{yawn}

171 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:15:25pm

re: #168 CuriousLurker

That is why I put it on flickr. That usually works.

172 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:16:30pm

re: #167 stabby

heh
'magine that
it actually gave me a downding for a JOKE!!

You really need to get a hobby!

{yeesshh}

173 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:17:15pm

re: #171 PhillyPretzel

That is why I put it on flickr. That usually works.

Is that what you kids call it nowadays!!

174 CuriousLurker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:17:42pm

re: #172 sattv4u2

heh
'magine that
it actually gave me a downding for a JOKE!!

You really need to get a hobby!

{yeesshh}

Seriously? Good grief.

175 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:18:33pm

re: #174 CuriousLurker

Seriously? Good grief.

yuppers!

I would never have looked if (s)he didn't mention it

176 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:20:47pm

re: #173 sattv4u2

Is that what you kids call it nowadays!!

ATTENTION STABBY

Does the above pass your muster!?!?!?

177 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:21:11pm

re: #175 sattv4u2

yuppers!

I would never have looked if (s)he didn't mention it

Take your punishment like a man!
/

178 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:22:14pm

re: #177 Killgore Trout

Take your punishment like a man!
/

Now you've done it

You're entering PunHell

179 stabby  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:22:18pm

re: #172 sattv4u2

Not every ding has to be serious.

180 CuriousLurker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:22:25pm

Hahahahahahaa, now everyone's gonna do it. Gotta love you guys.

181 CuriousLurker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:23:24pm

*blink*

Alrighty then...

182 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:24:05pm

Too bad another amazingly resilient and hardy species, the common coyote, isn't large enough to threaten the feral hogs. I'm sure coyotes are delighted to grab the occasional piglet but it must be hazardous work.

My favorite coyote story involves a pack living in suburban California. They were preying on a band of stray cats who had gathered to take advantage of food well-meaning people would set out for them. Once the cats were wiped out, the coyotes continued to live on the food that was still being set out by people who had no idea the intended recipients had been eaten.

183 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:24:32pm

re: #178 sattv4u2

Now you've done it

You're entering PunHell

What are you, some kind of pundit?

184 CuriousLurker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:24:35pm

re: #177 Killgore Trout

Take your punishment like a man!
/

WTF did I tell you about leaving your stash out where people could get into it??

185 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:25:06pm

re: #183 Killgore Trout

What are you, some kind of pundit?

That deserves a punch

186 stabby  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:26:43pm

The next time I make a pun, I'm so doomed.

187 A Man for all Seasons  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:26:56pm

re: #185 sattv4u2

That deserves a punch

Very punny!

188 wilburs  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:27:16pm

re: #76 sattv4u2

Looks as if this particular lodge tells you what you can hunt with

Hunters of Trophy Scimitar-Horned Oryx can choose the Spot and Stalk method, Bow Hunting, Rifle Hunting, Black Powder, Safari Style Hunting, Handgun, as well as hunting from a Blind

Why don't they just use land mines, then they won't miss any football while they are waiting for some dumb animal to wander by.

189 jaunte  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:27:27pm

re: #185 sattv4u2

That deserves a punch

Where's your punctuation?!?!?!

190 CuriousLurker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:27:32pm

re: #182 Shiplord Kirel

Yikes!

191 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:27:49pm

re: #187 A Man for all Seasons

Very punny!

Yeah, but I wear pants so nobody notices!!

(oh ,, I thought you typed puney)

192 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:28:23pm

re: #189 jaunte

Where's your punctuation?!?!?!

No reply yet. He's not very punctual.

193 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:28:25pm

re: #189 jaunte

Where's your punctuation?!?!?!

I wasn't punctual with it?

194 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:28:46pm

re: #192 Killgore Trout

re: #193 sattv4u2

by TWO seconds!!
damn!

195 jaunte  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:28:53pm

OK no conference calling.

196 stabby  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:29:00pm

.

197 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:29:21pm

re: #196 stabby

.

Thats the best post I've ever seen of yours!

198 CuriousLurker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:29:44pm

re: #197 sattv4u2

Thats the best post I've ever seen of yours!

Seconded!

199 jaunte  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:29:56pm

re: #196 stabby

Very punctilious.

200 stabby  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:30:01pm

re: #197 sattv4u2

:)

201 BongCrodny  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:30:35pm

re: #196 stabby

.

Short, and to the point.

202 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:30:43pm

re: #188 wilburs

Why don't they just use land mines, then they won't miss any football while they are waiting for some dumb animal to wander by.

Lessee

Umm,,, because they're
A) not on the list
and
B) illegal!?!?!

203 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:31:05pm

re: #201 BongCrodny

Short, and to the point.

Yeah, but I wear pants so nobody notices!!

204 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:31:41pm

re: #155 PhillyPretzel

What is wrong with asking to see a receipt? They do it all the time at BJ's.

Nothing, but it's not compulsory to comply.

What of the shopkeeper’s privilege? Most of the circumstances satisfy the conditions necessary for Circuit City to claim the detention was privileged. The defense would turn on whether the guard had probable cause to detain and search Mr. Righi for stolen goods. However, Circuit City does not have the power to forcibly search all of its customers, and the only specific and articulable fact that brought Mr. Righi to the guard’s attention was that when offered the opportunity to submit to a search, Mr. Righi politely declined. It is circular reasoning to suggest that the refusal to submit to a voluntary search is itself justification for subjecting a customer to one that is compulsory.

205 CuriousLurker  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:32:34pm

Later, lizards. O_o

206 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:35:13pm

re: #204 goddamnedfrank

Nothing, but it's not compulsory to comply.

I didn't see anywhere that the customer was detained or forced to open their bags, only that the clerk asked for a reciept

Either way, that doesn't justify a beating!

207 A Man for all Seasons  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:35:23pm

re: #202 sattv4u2

Lessee

Umm,,, because they're
A) not on the list
and
B) illegal!?!?!

What have you got against live fire artillery barrages?

208 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:37:03pm

re: #207 A Man for all Seasons

What have you got against live fire artillery barrages?

I prefer not to have to scour four counties for the remnants of my (soon to be) dinner!

209 wilburs  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:37:36pm

re: #202 sattv4u2

Lessee

Umm,,, because they're
A) not on the list
and
B) illegal!?!?!

A little lobbying takes care of (B), (A) will follow

210 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:38:36pm

re: #209 wilburs

A little lobbying takes care of (B), (A) will follow

"a little lobbying" gets land mines onto Wal Mart shelves!!
i did not know that!!

{shheeshh}

211 A Man for all Seasons  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:40:39pm

re: #208 sattv4u2

I prefer not to have to scour four counties for the remnants of my (soon to be) dinner!

Think of it as a Sunday Brunch.. You get to kill all the animals and then pick and choose the good ones..
/

212 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:42:57pm

re: #211 A Man for all Seasons

Think of it as a Sunday Brunch.. You get to kill all the animals and then pick and choose the good ones..
/

How do I know if they were good? I have no idea how they treated their kids, if they paid their taxes on time, how much charitable work they did!!

213 wilburs  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:43:29pm

re: #210 sattv4u2

"a little lobbying" gets land mines onto Wal Mart shelves!!
i did not know that!!

{shheeshh}

why not
it worked with the Sig Sauer M400

214 A Man for all Seasons  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:44:06pm

re: #212 sattv4u2

How do I know if they were good? I have no idea how they treated their kids, if they paid their taxes on time, how much charitable work they did!!

Kill em all and let God sort em out

215 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:45:59pm

re: #213 wilburs

why not
it worked with the Sig Sauer M400

Yup
A Sig Sauer and a landmine

Interchangeable!!

216 stabby  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:49:35pm

To go back to the boring topic of the week:

I did some dividing based on stats on wikipedia...
The US has about 100 times as many murders by gun as the UK
and about 4 times as many murders altogether. Apparently they find other ways to kill each other.

For world homicide rate in a sortable table look here
[Link: data.un.org...]

Our latest stat is 4.2 homicides per 100,000

The safest countries are ones like Japan and Austria with 0.6, 1/7th our homicide rate. There are plenty of countries that report a homicide rate of 0 but I don't trust that.

Interesting to note that even after all of Orianna Falaci's complaints about uncivilized Muslim immigrants, their homicide rate is 0.9 or 4.8 times safer than us.

Canada is about 2.5 times safer that us.

We're almost on par with India, Taiwan and uhm Cambodia

There are plenty of countries with very serious problems though.
Image: File:Map_of_world_by_intentional_homicide_rate.png

Russia, parts of Africa, South America, Mexico have homicide rates sometimes approaching 10 times ours.

217 wilburs  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:49:58pm

re: #215 sattv4u2

Yup
A Sig Sauer and a landmine

Interchangeable!!

No
Just another incremental improvement in "personal safety" and in keeping jackbooted thugs from taking away our freedoms!

218 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:52:02pm

re: #216 stabby

Apparently they find other ways to kill each other.

We're humans
We have opposable thumbs
We're resourceful!!

Russia, parts of Africa, South America, Mexico have homicide rates sometimes approaching 10 times ours

Dear AAA. I do NOT need any travel brochures for the above mentioned areas!!!

219 sattv4u2  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:56:20pm

And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons

220 stabby  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:58:50pm

Worse territories of the US:
Washington DC (6 times worse than average)
- note it's not a fair measure being an urban city being compared with whole states.

Puerto Rico (5 times worse)
Louisiana (3 times worse)
New Mexico,Maryland (2 times worse)
Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, Missouri,Michigan, South Carolina, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Illinois (spanning from 7 per 100k down to 6 per 100k)

221 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 6:01:00pm

Zedushka is so weird. He's sitting in front of a 50" HDTV, watching a movie on his 11" personal portable DVD player.

222 stabby  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 6:01:26pm

heh, one reason for 0 homicide rates are VERY SMALL POPULATIONS.
Greenland has rather high rates till you realize that the total number of homicides in 2007 was 2.

223 stabby  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 6:14:40pm

I just made an argument over at pj... The site is pretty dead to debate these days so nothing will come of it:

There's an argument for taking the second Amendment out of this because the PURPOSE of the 2nd Amendment was to provision our army using self-armed citizens.

But we don't need that kind of Army, we have The Army, The Air Force, The Marines, The Navy, The National Guard.

And in more modern times (in the countries unlucky enough to actually have militias), it looks like militias are a very bad idea, they lead to failed states, to terrorism, to death squads, to sectarian war, to control by foreign powers.

So I would like to suggest that the fight over guns be made on modern grounds. People sound incoherent when trying to describe the reasoning behind the 2nd amendment because they don't see or want to admit that it's about an obsolete institution.

224 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 6:21:05pm

re: #213 wilburs

why not
it worked with the Sig Sauer M400

Big difference. The M400 is an AR-15 type semi-auto rifle, and as such is considered a Class 1 firearm by the ATF. Allowing it to be imported required only a change in ATF regulations.

Land mines, by contrast, are considered Destructive Devices under the National Firearms Act of 1934 (as amended by the Gun Control Act of 1968), and further have been listed such that they cannot be purchased by civilians at all, even in deactivated form. To allow them to be used in a hunt would require an Act of Congress.

225 wilburs  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 7:00:43pm

re: #224 Dark_Falcon

Big difference. The M400 is an AR-15 type semi-auto rifle, and as such is considered a Class 1 firearm by the ATF. Allowing it to be imported required only a change in ATF regulations.

Land mines, by contrast, are considered Destructive Devices under the National Firearms Act of 1934 (as amended by the Gun Control Act of 1968), and further have been listed such that they cannot be purchased by civilians at all, even in deactivated form. To allow them to be used in a hunt would require an Act of Congress.

I was being facetious of course.

While I have no problem with hunting per se, the concept of shooting some obscure animal just so you can check it off of some list is utterly, utterly depraved

226 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 7:07:07pm

re: #225 wilburs

I was being facetious of course.

While I have no problem with hunting per se, the concept of shooting some obscure animal just so you can check it off of some list is utterly, utterly depraved

How is that to be distinguished from wanting that animal's head as a trophy? This presumes a standard hunt, BTW. Participating in a "canned hunt" makes one as asshole in my eyes.

227 wilburs  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 7:15:19pm

re: #226 Dark_Falcon

How is that to be distinguished from wanting that animal's head as a trophy? This presumes a standard hunt, BTW. Participating in a "canned hunt" makes one as asshole in my eyes.

not much different I guess.

I just find the "list" thing sickening.
I was recently reading about walrus hunts in Alaska. "Sportsmen" pay 5 or 6 thousand dollars to shoot at an animal that moves about 2 miles per hour. One person likened it to shooting a bean bag chair.
Since there is no "sport" involved, and you cannot take any part of the walrus, what is the point?

To check it off some stupid list

228 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 23, 2012 7:25:05pm

re: #227 wilburs

not much different I guess.

I just find the "list" thing sickening.
I was recently reading about walrus hunts in Alaska. "Sportsmen" pay 5 or 6 thousand dollars to shoot at an animal that moves about 2 miles per hour. One person likened it to shooting a bean bag chair.
Since there is no "sport" involved, and you cannot take any part of the walrus, what is the point?

To check it off some stupid list

That I would agree is ugly and indefensible.

229 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Dec 24, 2012 11:06:06am

re: #225 wilburs

I was being facetious of course.

While I have no problem with hunting per se, the concept of shooting some obscure animal just so you can check it off of some list is utterly, utterly depraved

My Dad and other family men hunted for sport, but only animals they could eat. Deer, birds . . . .. so, I don't get it either.

Dad grew up hunting for his food, it was a different world. Still have some family that does that --have deep freezers for venison etc.


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