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Gun-Crazed Wingnuts File New Petition: Prosecute Sen. Feinstein for “Treason to the Constitution”

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Following up on yesterday’s story about the crazed wingnut reactions to Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s proposed assault weapons ban, today we discover a new petition at the White House website: Try Senator Dianne Feinstein in a Federal Court for Treason to the Constitution.

The Constitution was written to restrain the government. No amendment is more important for this purpose than the 2nd amendment. The 2nd amendment was written so the power could be kept with the citizenry in the face of a tyrannical government. It was well understood the Constitution acknowledged certain rights that could not be limited by government.

Senator Dianne Feinstein has made it clear she does not believe in the Constitution or the inalienable rights of Americans to keep and bear arms. She is actively working to destroy the 2nd amendment with her 2013 assault weapons ban. For this reason we the people of the united States petition for her to be tried in Federal Court for treason to the Constitution.

Oh, for Pete’s sake. This petition page at the White House website just gets more and more ridiculous. Maybe it’s time to admit it’s an experiment that’s not working? (Unless the purpose is to show how crazy the right wing base can be, in which case it’s working very well.)

(h/t: Gus.)

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144 comments

1 erik_t  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:36:56am

I would really treat this Proposal with a bit more Respect if it included some additional Random Capitalization.

2 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:38:31am

To dub discussion of possible legislation 'treason' (without said legislation even having been introduced yet) is blatant hate and fear mongering. It serves no other purpose. This is more of the same "THE OTHER SIDE IS EVIL!!1" shlock that has so dreadfully paralyzed the Congress. It is evil and must end.

3 Pete Puma  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:39:36am

I'd love it if the Troller in Chief picked one of these dudes at random and invited him to the White House to explain his rationale in person. For the lolz, see.

4 jaunte  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:39:44am

Every gun owning constitutional originalist must join a well-regulated militia today, or admit that they believe in a living document.

5 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:41:23am

By this rationale, everyone who called on the video game makers, Hollywood, and others to stop making games depicting gun violence are also committing treason in crushing the First Amendment. Yes Wayne, that means you've committed treason. /wingnut logic as applied.

Still, the whole point of this is to silence debate about the subject of gun control. It's meant to intimidate and cajole others to stop any kind of action on the proliferation of firearms. It's meant to hit at the First Amendment rights to question policy choices and submit alternatives (even if the alternatives have no chance of ever being enacted into law). I find the whole exercise to be anti-Democratic.

6 Bulworth  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:41:46am

re: #4 jaunte

[wingnut]What?! Prosecute this jaunte person for treason![/wingut]

7 Bulworth  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:43:34am

re: #6 Bulworth

Obviously I can't type or spell today.

8 bronxboy47  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:43:36am

Think of the petition site as an advanced warning system.

9 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:44:29am

re: #6 Bulworth

Your wingnut isn't

(wingnutty)

enough.

10 Bulworth  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:44:43am

re: #5 lawhawk

Actually the entire Constitution only consists of the 2nd Amendment. /

11 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:44:49am

This just shows that 'direct democracy' favours the extremes of the political discourse. Essentially it limits the government to doing one of only two things; bad and good. Which of course depends entirely on your point of view.

As my favourite writer puts it, "The vote is the final punctuation of the democratic sentence." Petitions and referendums can only add an exclamation mark, never a question mark, a period or a careful comma.

In short petitions and referendums favour ideologues. Napoleon used referenda to add an appearance of democracy to his empire. Hitler gained more power in two referenda than any absolute monarch.

I can't say this sort of thing surprises me.

12 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:47:29am

re: #5 lawhawk

By this rationale, everyone who called on the video game makers, Hollywood, and others to stop making games depicting gun violence are also committing treason in crushing the First Amendment. Yes Wayne, that means you've committed treason. /wingnut logic as applied.

Still, the whole point of this is to silence debate about the subject of gun control. It's meant to intimidate and cajole others to stop any kind of action on the proliferation of firearms. It's meant to hit at the First Amendment rights to question policy choices and submit alternatives (even if the alternatives have no chance of ever being enacted into law). I find the whole exercise to be anti-Democratic.

WE HAVE TO KILL THE 1ST AMENDMENT TO SAVE THE 2ND AMENDMENT. ANYTHING ELSE IS TREASON!!!

13 erik_t  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:48:22am

re: #10 Bulworth

Actually the entire Constitution only consists of the 2nd Amendment. /

The rest of the Constitution is an Amendment to the Second Amendment.

14 Big Steve  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:48:43am
Maybe it’s time to admit it’s an experiment that’s not working?

....I view it the opposite. What does it harm and it lets people blow off steam. Plus it is, I dare say, a first amendment right to petition.

15 erik_t  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:49:28am

re: #14 Big Steve

....I view it the opposite. What does it harm and it lets people blow off steam. Plus it is, I dare say, a first amendment right to petition.

Do you think the current RWNJ froth is diminishing rage, or do you think it's letting the rage grow and fester?

16 Gus  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:51:24am

Thanks for the hat tip. I'm pretty sure that proposing regulations on semi-automatic weapons doesn't qualify as "treason to the Constitution." Whatever that means.

17 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:53:51am

re: #16 Gus

Thanks for the hat tip. I'm pretty sure that proposing regulations on semi-automatic weapons doesn't qualify as "treason to the Constitution." Whatever that means.

It's pretty much like the Bible. People will pick and choose parts of it they like, then proceed to beat other people over the head with it.

18 erik_t  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:54:39am

re: #17 Ghost of Tom Joad

It's pretty much like the Bible. People will pick and choose parts of it they like imagine to be present, then proceed to beat other people over the head with it.

FTFY.

19 AntonSirius  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:54:48am

Everyone who signs that petition should be declared "poorly regulated", as the phrase was understood in the 18th century, and forbidden from owning arms as per the very clear text of the Second Amendment.

20 Big Steve  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:55:08am

re: #15 erik_t

I don't think the petitions cause any more festering plus I was pretty pleased with myself personally to sign the petition to revoke Westboro's tax exempt status.

21 Mattand  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:55:13am

re: #15 erik_t

Do you think the current RWNJ froth is diminishing rage, or do you think it's letting the rage grow and fester?

As we approach Inauguration Day, it's going expand. What happens after that, who know? I'm sure Fox, et. al., will do their best to roil the mouth breathers.

22 SidewaysQuark  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:57:07am

The very existence of this option shows how far behind the Feds are in understanding the concept of "trolling".

23 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:57:34am
For this reason we the people of the united States petition for her to be tried in Federal Court for treason to the Constitution.

Leave me out of this you fucking loons. I am part of "We the people of these United States of America" and I don't want any part of your bullshit gun/death porn.

24 CuriousLurker  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:58:15am

re: #14 Big Steve

....I view it the opposite. What does it harm and it lets people blow off steam. Plus it is, I dare say, a first amendment right to petition.

Removing the petition page from the White House website wouldn't nullify the First Amendment right to petition any more than banning assault weapons would nullify the Second Amendment.

25 Gus  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:01:29pm

"treason was specifically defined in the United States Constitution, the only crime so defined. Article III Section 3 delineates treason as follows:"

...

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

Derp.

26 Lidane  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:01:51pm

re: #2 Dark_Falcon

It is evil and must end.

It has also been standard operating procedure on the right since at least Clinton was POTUS. It's only gotten worse since Obama got elected.

Funny how all these paragons of Constitutional purity and liberty and freedom are so quick to label their critics traitors.

27 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:03:35pm

These guys support all this theocratic "Christian Nation" crap and Feinstein should be up for treason against the constitution? Nobody abuses it's ideas more than the Christian evangelist GOP.

28 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:03:46pm

I think the admin put this up just to show how freaking crazy the right has become. It's working.

29 erik_t  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:03:47pm

Bask, for a moment, in the stunning derp of this sentence.

The Constitution was written to restrain the government.

Because as we all know, the problem with the Articles of Confederation is that the federal government had too much power and had to be scaled back.

30 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:04:36pm

The petition also pretty much begs the question of whether we are ruled by a tyrannical government which has usurped its powers and seeks to repress our freedoms.

And there is no point in trying to argue that the current government, like every other one preceeding it, was elected freely and fairly and in accordance with the Constitution.

.

31 Kronocide  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:05:36pm

This is exactly why I don't take any solace in Moar Guns. The nuts evangelizing this mouth breathing idiocy are also the gun fetishists awaiting any excuse to start shooting at liberals, minorities, Muslims, or atheists.

It's as if they want some apocalypse, any apocalypse, to happen.

32 Lidane  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:06:57pm

Dear Raving Nutjobs,

You want an example of clear and blatant treason? Look no further than HAUPT v. U.S., 330 U.S. 631 (1947). THAT was treason. Sen. Dianne Feinstein proposing gun control legislation? Not so much.

Do the rest of us a few favors: cut back on the caffeine, read a few history books, and get the fuck over it already. The Second Amendment doesn't trump every other goddamn thing in the Constitution.

No love,
Me

33 Gus  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:06:58pm

re: #29 erik_t

Bask, for a moment, in the stunning derp of this sentence.

Because as we all know, the problem with the Articles of Confederation is that the federal government had too much power and had to be scaled back.

The petition that keeps on giving.

34 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:07:06pm

re: #29 erik_t

The derp is strong with that.

The Constitution was written precisely because the need for a strong central government - a federal system was needed.

The Bill of Rights was written to constrain the federal government's power to constrain certain enumerated rights.

35 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:07:27pm

re: #31 Kronocide

This is exactly why I don't take any solace in Moar Guns. The nuts evangelizing this mouth breathing idiocy are also the gun fetishists awaiting any excuse to start shooting at liberals, minorities, Muslims, or atheists.

It's as if they want some apocalypse, any apocalypse, to happen.

I fear that the only thing that will bring about any restriction of assault weapons in this country will be the sort of scene you describe: following a major natural and/or man-made disaster which paralyzes untilities and public services over a large area, we could well see very poorly regulated militias out gunning down anyone they considered suspicious (i.e. dark-skinned).

36 Kronocide  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:09:43pm

re: #35 Sol Berdinowitz

I fear that the only thing that will bring about any restriction of assault weapons in this country will be the sort of scene you describe: following a major natural and/or man-made disaster which paralyzes untilities and public services over a large area, we could well see very poorly regulated militias out gunning down anyone they considered suspicious (i.e. dark-skinned).

Or, anybody suspected of known to be 'liberal.' Once you've made the intellectual justification for something like race, religion or political view justifications will follow.

37 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:10:29pm

re: #35 Sol Berdinowitz

Didn't that happen somewhat after Katrina rolled over New Orleans?

38 erik_t  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:12:05pm
It was well understood the Constitution acknowledged certain rights that could not be limited by government.

It was so important to the Founding Fathers that they forgot to include it in the original version and didn't get around to including it for another two years.

39 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:12:36pm

re: #31 Kronocide

This is exactly why I don't take any solace in Moar Guns. The nuts evangelizing this mouth breathing idiocy are also the gun fetishists awaiting any excuse to start shooting at liberals, minorities, Muslims, or atheists.

It's as if they want some apocalypse, any apocalypse, to happen.

Hell, there's been shootings over loud music, wearing a hoody, over fast-food service, and that's just recently.

When you're armed with a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

40 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:13:26pm

re: #32 Lidane

Dear Raving Nutjobs,

You want an example of clear and blatant treason? Look no further than HAUPT v. U.S., 330 U.S. 631 (1947). THAT was treason. Sen. Dianne Feinstein proposing gun control legislation? Not so much.

Do the rest of us a few favors: cut back on the caffeine, read a few history books, and get the fuck over it already. The Second Amendment doesn't trump every other goddamn thing in the Constitution.

No love,
Me

7 on the majority opinion with one concurring against a lone dissenter. That's pretty decisive.

41 Kronocide  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:13:39pm
42 Gus  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:15:42pm

What a dumb petition.

43 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:16:44pm

re: #37 Ghost of Tom Joad

Didn't that happen somewhat after Katrina rolled over New Orleans?

To a limited extent, but consider the possibility of something that dwarfs Katrina, and one that hits without any forewarning...it could get very, very ugly and we will see exactly what it means to have that many weapons in the hands of that many unstable people.

44 aagcobb  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:17:47pm

re: #3 Pete Puma

I'd love it if the Troller in Chief picked one of these dudes at random and invited him to the White House to explain his rationale in person. For the lolz, see.

I remember an episode of the West Wing in which periodically the staff had to meet with whatever crazies had a proposal they wanted to pitch to the White House, like a globe with the South Pole on top.

45 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:19:27pm

re: #41 Kronocide

The stops net 8,000 weapons a year, including 800 illegal guns, Kelly said.

Read more: [Link: www.sfgate.com...]

Guns are 10% of the weapons take.
Keep in mind the Sullivan act is 101 years old. That's the law that banned lots of weapons on NYC. Murder is down this year? I'd be a little careful about that correlation.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

46 Kronocide  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:21:19pm

re: #45 Political Atheist

Read more: [Link: www.sfgate.com...]

Guns are 10% of the weapons take.
Keep in mind the Sullivan act is 101 years old. That's the law that banned lots of weapons on NYC. Murder is down this year? I'd be a little careful about that correlation.

I read the whole thing. The gun fetishists like to make the charge that gun laws don't work and imply they increase gun violence. This shows the contrary.

47 stabby  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:23:49pm

The right wing are starting to remind me of the radicals from the 60's, all emotionalism, theater, posturing... They're like rowdies at a rally, not serious people...

Which is odd. The kids in the 60's were like that because they were young, out of power, not experienced, feeling helpless, more interested in looking cool than accomplishing anything (so they could get laid) ...

Note that a lot of the above is missing from the right wing nuts.

One of the (usually abused) moderates at PJMedia noticed the abuse the other day and said something like "Everyone is a radical now. We're all following Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals'"

I almost answered "Except the Democrats"

48 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:23:51pm

re: #43 Sol Berdinowitz

To a limited extent, but consider the possibility of something that dwarfs Katrina, and one that hits without any forewarning...it could get very, very ugly and we will see exactly what it means to have that many weapons in the hands of that many unstable people.

And it assumes that order would be restored afterwards. If an especially nasty racial conflict broke out that way (it could happen via attacks by any group upon another, it would'd have to be white attacking black), there'd likely be a number of white victims as well and the bad blood might be enough as to be unquellable. Situations like that have engulfed even calm regions in bloodbath, often because once enough damage is done, the side that's done it feels that in order to preclude revenge attacks they have to fully ethnically cleanse the area.

49 boredtechindenver  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:24:31pm

re: #44 aagcobb

I remember an episode of the West Wing in which periodically the staff had to meet with whatever crazies had a proposal they wanted to pitch to the White House, like a globe with the South Pole on top.

Big Block of Cheese day.

50 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:24:48pm

re: #45 Political Atheist

Read more: [Link: www.sfgate.com...]

Guns are 10% of the weapons take.
Keep in mind the Sullivan act is 101 years old. That's the law that banned lots of weapons on NYC. Murder is down this year? I'd be a little careful about that correlation.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Best to bring that issue to lawhawk, NYC is his baliwick.

51 Achilles Tang  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:25:24pm

re: #32 Lidane

The Second Amendment doesn't trump every other goddamn thing in the Constitution.

To these people everything is a matter of personal interpretation and, where it suits them, the bible trumps the constitution too.

52 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:26:31pm

re: #47 stabby

Which is odd. The kids in the 60's were like that because they were young, out of power, not experienced, feeling helpless, more interested in looking cool than accomplishing anything (so they could get laid) ...

Note that a lot of the above is missing from the right wing nuts.

Age is not that decisive an issue, there are plenty of young gun nuts, these people have no real-life experiences outside of gun-nut fantasies, conservative talk radio and Fox News, they are big into feeling cool and macho and somehow still believe that having a gun will help them feel masculine and enhance their chances of getting laid.

53 stabby  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:27:39pm

re: #51 Achilles Tang

Right wingers are more likely to be scared of other people and feel they need a gun too, IMO.

You know "self protection" is a valid argument, it just doesn't have the authority of the constitution. People who are pro-gun would rather have authority than make a valid argument.

54 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:27:57pm

re: #48 Dark_Falcon

And it assumes that order would be restored afterwards. If an especially nasty racial conflict broke out that way (it could happen via attacks by any group upon another, it would'd have to be white attacking black), there'd likely be a number of white victims as well and the bad blood might be enough as to be unquellable. Situations like that have engulfed even calm regions in bloodbath, often because once enough damage is done, the side that's done it feels that in order to preclude revenge attacks they have to fully ethnically cleanse the area.

And if the government is forced to crack down, impose martial law and some serious shoot-first-ask-questions-later form of order, it will just further rile up the RWNJ's as proof of what the Government has in store for all of us down the road...

55 erik_t  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:28:33pm

re: #52 Sol Berdinowitz

Age is not that decisive an issue, there are plenty of young gun nuts, these people have no real-life experiences outside of gun-nut fantasies, conservative talk radio and Fox News, they are big into feeling cool and macho and somehow still believe that having a gun will help them feel masculine and enhance their chances of getting laid.

Yes, this. I can feel pretty optimistic about most social issues because it's pretty clear which way the tide is going. Twentysomethings don't give a shit about gays. The gun nutters, however, seem to cut across all age groups.

56 Kronocide  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:29:54pm

I'll take my chances with government tyranny in a much less armed society.

The it's not like we're living under some alternate tyranny right at the moment.

57 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:31:31pm

re: #56 Kronocide

I'll take my chances with government tyranny in a much less armed society.

The it's not like we're living under some alternate tyranny right at the moment.

That is your problem: you are blind to the fact that America has seen itself fall under the usurpatious power of a Kenyan Islamist and his minions, whose loyalty he buys of with government handouts paid for with your hard-earned tax dollars.

/

58 stabby  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:32:52pm

re: #55 erik_t

Got to go :

59 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:34:35pm

re: #50 Dark_Falcon

Gun control plays a role in the number of firearms crimes (homicides, armed robberies, attempted murders, etc.) but so too does effective policing.

The Sullivan law and other NYC and NYS laws have prohibited certain weapons and required licensing for concealed weapons for decades. Despite this, or perhaps because of this (and that's up for debate and research to divine whether there's causation, correlation, or nothing) crime rates soared during the late 1970s and early 1980s, but dropped back to what we now see are historic lows - especially as compared on per capita basis.

The argument that gun control works is that the crime rates would have been higher still. The argument that gun control didn't play a role in this is the role of the NYPD and effective policing up to and including stop and frisk, which itself is up for research and debate on effectively reducing crime through hundreds of thousands of police stops.

It's not so simple to say that gun control did or didn't result in the low crime rates, but for those who are arrested on gun crimes in NYC, those same gun control laws help by imposing more stringent sentencing (as I've noted elsewhere on LGF today). Gun free zones serve multiple purposes, which happens to include allowing the state/municipality to impose harsher sentences on those who break the law with firearms in those areas.

That's one of the reasons that I find the cracks by Malkin and others about gun free schools so laughable. Yes, the perfect would would see gun free schools, but failing that - should a crime with a firearm be carried out in those zones, the punishments are increased significantly. After all, mass murders at schools are thankfully infrequent, but unfortunately there are too many people who bring guns into schools (show and tell, or commit other crimes with guns in these zones). The gun free zone laws impose harsher penalties as a result.

60 Pawn of the Oppressor  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:34:51pm

re: #52 Sol Berdinowitz

Age is not that decisive an issue, there are plenty of young gun nuts, these people have no real-life experiences outside of gun-nut fantasies, conservative talk radio and Fox News, they are big into feeling cool and macho and somehow still believe that having a gun will help them feel masculine and enhance their chances of getting laid.

That's not working out, considering how much of the gun-nut crowd is divorced, in my experience. Suspenders-wearing guys in their 50s with crumbling or broken marriages, sitting around ranting about the gub'mint... Not my kind of crowd. It gets quite boring after a while.

You can find token Democrats on gun forums now and again, but they're usually the forum whipping post. I used to wonder how they got into that position, of being a non-Republican firearms owner... Now I know.

61 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:38:43pm

re: #47 stabby

The right wing are starting to remind me of the radicals from the 60's, all emotionalism, theater, posturing... They're like rowdies at a rally, not serious people...

Which is odd. The kids in the 60's were like that because they were young, out of power, not experienced, feeling helpless, more interested in looking cool than accomplishing anything (so they could get laid) ...

Note that a lot of the above is missing from the right wing nuts.

One of the (usually abused) moderates at PJMedia noticed the abuse the other day and said something like "Everyone is a radical now. We're all following Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals'"

I almost answered "Except the Democrats"

You don't know much about the radicals from the 60s, do you. Another Mother for Peace? Vietnam Veterans Against the War? The Black Panthers? SNCC? They don't fit your description.

62 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:39:13pm

How did Rochester gunman get the guns he used in the murder of two firefighters? Well, looks like someone engaged in a straw sale or otherwise falsified business records.

New York State Police Senior Investigator James Newell says Dawn Nguyen, of Rochester, faces a state charge of filing a falsified business record.

He says the charge is connected to the purchase of an AR-15 semiautomatic rifle and a 12-gauge shotgun that William Spengler had with him Monday when firefighters Michael Chiapperini and Tomasz Kaczowka were gunned down. Three other people were wounded before the 62-year-old Spengler killed himself.

UPDATE:

Nguyen was charged with filing a falsified business record.
Spengler apparently set the blaze to trap the firefighters, four of whom were shot before Spengler killed himself.
Nguyen's lawyer, Dave Palmiere, says his client bought the two weapons legally, and that they were stolen, the Democrat and Chronicle reported.

Read more: [Link: www.businessinsider.com...]

63 stabby  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:39:35pm

Abby Hoffman..

64 Charles Johnson  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:39:49pm
65 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:39:53pm

re: #54 Sol Berdinowitz

And if the government is forced to crack down, impose martial law and some serious shoot-first-ask-questions-later form of order, it will just further rile up the RWNJ's as proof of what the Government has in store for all of us down the road...

And it also might not get there in time. That's a defense of guns, actually: That being if some people really do go on the rampage, as happened during the LA Riots (or the earlier Rosewood Massacre). In the former instance and in one case of the latter, guns were used by people unjustly moved against to deter mob violence. The African-American man who used a rifle died, but his standing off a lynch mob saved his family; in a similar vein several Korean store owners were able to save their livelihoods and likely their lives by being able to defend themselves.

66 SteveMcG  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:42:13pm

How would the RWNJ's act if legislatures started curbing THEIR access to the ballot box?

67 allegro  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:42:36pm

re: #63 stabby

Abby Hoffman..

You don't know much about Abby Hoffman either if you think he fits your description.

68 Stanghazi  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:44:03pm

Im free!

69 SteveMcG  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:44:18pm

One thing this polyglot of radical groups from the 60s had in common was that they all felt they were standing up for freedom.

70 stabby  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:46:47pm

The right is actually the odd-man out in my opinion.

I think things have changed a bit since colleges now have as many women as men (more actually).

Before that, protests were more about impressing the few girls around than anything else IMO. At least in the first world

71 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:46:53pm

re: #62 lawhawk

The police are treating this as though the woman sold the gunman the weapons, but the woman through her lawyer and a relative claim that the guns were stolen from the woman's car (though they can't recall or say whether a police report was ever filed on the theft).

[Link: www.wgrz.com...]

72 Targetpractice  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:47:25pm

re: #69 SteveMcG

One thing this polyglot of radical groups from the 60s had in common was that they all felt they were standing up for freedom.

These wingnuts are totally standing up for "freedom," namely their right to be a pack of idiots.

73 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:47:47pm

re: #67 allegro

You don't know much about Abby Hoffman either if you think he fits your description.

One of the many albums I Can't Believe I Got Rid Of:

74 Targetpractice  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:48:45pm

re: #71 lawhawk

The police are treating this as though the woman sold the gunman the weapons, but the woman through her lawyer and a relative claim that the guns were stolen from the woman's car (though they can't recall or say whether a police report was ever filed on the theft).

[Link: www.wgrz.com...]

So we're looking at yet another case where a "responsible gun owner" did nothing to prevent their firearms from being stolen and used in the commission of a crime?

75 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:50:54pm

re: #70 stabby

Before that, protests were more about impressing the few girls around than anything else IMO. At least in the first world

What have you been reading that gives you this impression? (I'm pretty sure it's not personal experience.)

76 stabby  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:52:00pm

re: #75 wrenchwench

It's just my impression of what people doing utterly useless things while striking poses must be up to.

77 celticdragon  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:52:15pm

re: #35 Sol Berdinowitz

I fear that the only thing that will bring about any restriction of assault weapons in this country will be the sort of scene you describe: following a major natural and/or man-made disaster which paralyzes untilities and public services over a large area, we could well see very poorly regulated militias out gunning down anyone they considered suspicious (i.e. dark-skinned).

The Katrina debacle actually brought about the reverse scenario in banning, since local law enforcement (a number of whom were busy in criminal activities themselves...including a mass shooting at one point) was busy confiscating firearms without restoring public order.

The NRA successfully lead a drive in several states that forbids confiscation of private arms during or after a disaster.

You have the idiots in the New Orleans PD in part to thank for that.

78 Mich-again  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:52:21pm

Gun lovers are very quick to point out that semi-automatic weapons are nothing at all like automatic weapons. ohh nooo. But if you take your standard AR-15 and buy a sliding stock for it online, then you can learn a simple technique called bump fire.. All totally legal.

79 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:53:11pm

re: #76 stabby

It's just my impression of what people doing utterly useless things while striking poses must be up to.

Maybe you should read a book.

80 stabby  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:53:46pm

Also ha ha ha "radicals".. Ohh, a communist radical.. how romantic!

81 celticdragon  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:53:59pm

re: #61 wrenchwench

You don't know much about the radicals from the 60s, do you. Another Mother for Peace? Vietnam Veterans Against the War? The Black Panthers? SNCC? They don't fit your description.

The RWNJ's are beginning to resemble the Jacobites from the radical French Revolution more than anything else.

82 Big Steve  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:54:06pm

re: #75 wrenchwench

What have you been reading that gives you this impression? (I'm pretty sure it's not personal experience.)

I have to agree with WW here.....exposing my age but I grew up in the late sixties and those of us who were protesting seriously were concerned about getting drafted and our asses shot off in SE Asia far more than looking cool or getting laid.

83 celticdragon  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:54:32pm

re: #78 Mich-again

Gun lovers are very quick to point out that semi-automatic weapons are nothing at all like automatic weapons. ohh nooo. But if you take your standard AR-15 and buy a sliding stock for it online, then you can learn a simple technique called bump fire.. All totally legal.

Also utterly useless and difficult to control.

84 Targetpractice  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:55:39pm

re: #81 celticdragon

The RWNJ's are beginning to resemble the Jacobites from the radical French Revolution more than anything else.

So when do they wheel out the guillotine and start calling for the heads of "enemies of the people"?

85 stabby  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:56:33pm

I grew up in Berkeley California (at least some of my childhood) so I saw a lot of people who didn't seem that serious.

Ok I may have been a little kid... and I had to like the youthful energy of the counterculture. Heh, little kids can relate to stoned adults. But that isn't the same thing as anything serious.

86 allegro  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:57:36pm

re: #70 stabby

Before that, protests were more about impressing the few girls around than anything else IMO. At least in the first world

Wrong again. You might want to stop digging now.

87 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:57:37pm

re: #82 Big Steve

I have to agree with WW here.....exposing my age but I grew up in the late sixties and those of us who were protesting seriously were concerned about getting drafted and our asses shot off in SE Asia far more than looking cool or getting laid.

VVAW were often those who already got their asses shot off.

And all the ones I mentioned got things accomplished, like voting rights, ending a war, slowing down police executions. Pisses me off that stabby says they were all posers.

88 erik_t  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:57:43pm

re: #84 Targetpractice

So when do they wheel out the guillotine and start calling for the heads of "enemies of the people"?

I think you misspelled 'second amendment remedy'.

89 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:57:44pm

re: #84 Targetpractice

So when do they wheel out the guillotine and start calling for the heads of "enemies of the people"?

Obamunist's gonna do that so thatz why we needs are gunz!1!ty

90 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:57:54pm

re: #74 Targetpractice

It's an open question whether this person was involved in an illegal gun sale, sham transaction, or had legally purchased guns stolen. The family is claiming that the guns were stolen, but so far there's no evidence that the family ever reported the thefts (so far no indication that there was a police report made).

They're claiming the guns were stolen from their car. If that's the case, they didn't do a particularly good job of securing those weapons either- a car isn't exactly a secure location (break the window, that is if the doors aren't unlocked). And law enforcement will look at that angle too - check for fingerprints and the like.

But for this person's failure to secure the weapons, this guy wouldn't have gotten his hands on the weapons that ultimately killed the two firefighters and injured several others.

91 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 12:58:27pm

re: #85 stabby

I grew up in Berkeley California (at least some of my childhood) so I saw a lot of people who didn't seem that serious.

Ok I may have been a little kid... and I had to like the youthful energy of the counterculture. Heh, little kids can relate to stoned adults. But that isn't the same thing as anything serious.

Why don't you spout off about something you actually know a bit about?

92 Targetpractice  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:00:56pm

re: #90 lawhawk

It's an open question whether this person was involved in an illegal gun sale, sham transaction, or had legally purchased guns stolen. The family is claiming that the guns were stolen, but so far there's no evidence that the family ever reported the thefts (so far no indication that there was a police report made).

They're claiming the guns were stolen from their car. If that's the case, they didn't do a particularly good job of securing those weapons either- a car isn't exactly a secure location (break the window, that is if the doors aren't unlocked). And law enforcement will look at that angle too - check for fingerprints and the like.

But for this person's failure to secure the weapons, this guy wouldn't have gotten his hands on the weapons that ultimately killed the two firefighters and injured several others.

Beginning to think the trick might not be so much reclassification/banning of certain firearms so much as requiring very expensive liability insurance and/or making gun owners criminally liable if their firearms are used in the commission of a crime, even if "stolen."

93 stabby  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:01:03pm

Yeah, why don't you tell me how serious "people's park" is?

I'm not required to respect the culture of the dumb left or of the dumb right.

94 stabby  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:01:44pm

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

have fun

95 erik_t  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:02:48pm

I love playing Dueling Anecdotes.

96 Big Steve  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:03:25pm

re: #93 stabby

So you are boiling down the entire 60's to one park?

97 stabby  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:04:14pm

It's an example.

I've got to get going.

98 sattv4u2  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:04:48pm

re: #97 stabby

It's an example.

I've got to get going.

to the park??

99 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:05:01pm

re: #93 stabby

Yeah, why don't you tell me how serious "people's park" is?

I'm not required to respect the culture of the dumb left or of the dumb right.

You're not required to respect anything. But it seems you are acquainted with the culture of the dumb.

100 Big Steve  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:05:17pm

re: #95 erik_t

I love playing Dueling Anecdotes.

BTW I heard somewhere that Grumpy Cat's likeness is now copywritted (or is it copywritten?)

101 sattv4u2  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:05:34pm

re: #91 wrenchwench

Why don't you spout off about something you actually know a bit about?

By those rules, non of us will ever get to say anything!!!

//

102 erik_t  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:05:41pm

re: #97 stabby

It's an example.

I've got to get going.

People never "have to get going" when they feel like they've got the upper hand in an argument. Funny, that.

103 sattv4u2  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:06:04pm

re: #96 Big Steve

So you are boiling down the entire 60's to one park?

not "one" park

THE park!!

shheeeeshhh!!
/

104 stabby  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:06:26pm

Fuck off! I'm late for work

105 sattv4u2  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:06:27pm

re: #102 erik_t

People never "have to get going" when they feel like they've got the upper hand in an argument. Funny, that.

I've got to get going!!
/

106 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:06:51pm

re: #101 sattv4u2

By those rules, non of us will never get to say anything!!!

//

It certainly would be quieter.

107 CuriousLurker  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:07:03pm

re: #91 wrenchwench

Why don't you spout off about something you actually know a bit about?

Because shut up, that's why! Stabby McDerpsalot...

108 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:07:19pm

re: #104 stabby

Fuck off! I'm late for work

lol. Later, stabby.

109 Big Steve  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:08:04pm

re: #104 stabby

crybaby

110 Gus  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:08:25pm

11 movies with John Wayne. Stefanowski in "Mr Roberts."

111 Big Steve  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:09:21pm

re: #106 wrenchwench

and ruin all the lurker site's fun....

112 sattv4u2  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:09:45pm

re: #82 Big Steve

I have to agree with WW here.....exposing my age but I grew up in the late sixties and those of us who were protesting seriously were concerned about getting drafted and our asses shot off in SE Asia far more than looking cool or getting laid.

above;
doubled

( I pulled #186 in my years draft lottery. They took up to #147 iirc that year)

113 A Man for all Seasons  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:11:47pm

re: #76 stabby

It's just my impression of what people doing utterly useless things while striking poses must be up to.

What a crock..No offense but as a little kid they had body counts on TV every night and everybody knew someone killed or injured over the stupidest war in our history. People went to the streets to protest government actions.. Not to meet girls or strike a pose.

114 Big Steve  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:14:21pm

re: #112 sattv4u2

above;
doubled

( I pulled #186 in my years draft lottery. They took up to #147 iirc that year)

Was #2 my lottery year so enlisted. Volunteered to go to language school in Monterey.....spent my time in Defense Intelligence. In Nam for only 3 months luckily

115 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:15:09pm

re: #113 A Man for all Seasons

What a crock..No offense but as a little kid they had body counts on TV every night and everybody knew someone killed or injured over the stupidest war in our history. People went to the streets to protest government actions.. Not to meet girls or strike a pose.

Not just body counts. They had video. The first war shown live on TV.

116 stabby  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:16:08pm

re: #113 A Man for all Seasons

Not all protest and movements are created equal. Granted protests about Vietnam were about something serious. But hardly all that was going on was serious or well thought out was it?

How about the protests in France? They were accomplishing what?

And the "Free Speech" movement at Berkeley maybe it started useful and turned into what?

117 sattv4u2  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:16:42pm

re: #114 Big Steve

Was #2 my lottery year so enlisted. Volunteered to go to language school in Monterey.....spent my time in Defense Intelligence. In Nam for only 3 months luckily

Smart

better to choose then be told

118 erik_t  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:16:42pm

I thought you had to get to work.

119 stabby  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:16:57pm

I keep getting phone calls and getting later...
- runs to put contacts on and fresh clothes.

120 sattv4u2  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:17:42pm

re: #118 erik_t

I thought you had to get to work.

he quit
this was too important!
/

121 efuseakay  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:18:58pm

re: #4 jaunte

Every gun owning constitutional originalist must join a well-regulated militia today, or admit that they believe in a living document.

And they can only use firearms available at the time the Constitution was written.

122 stabby  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:19:03pm

I own a very small business, so it's a client that I'm calling to say I'm late to.. not a boss.

123 sattv4u2  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:19:53pm

re: #122 stabby

I own a very small business, so it's a client that I'm calling to say I'm late to.. not a boss.

Well, as long as you have your priorities in order I'll bet you'll have great success in business!!!

124 sattv4u2  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:20:24pm

((I never,, EVER ,, EVER kept a client waiting!!)))

NEVER!!

125 efuseakay  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:20:25pm

re: #76 stabby

It's just my impression of what people doing utterly useless things while striking poses must be up to.

Kind of like what you're doing right now.

126 sattv4u2  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:20:41pm

re: #125 efuseakay

Kind of like what you're doing right now.

ouch

127 CuriousLurker  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:20:41pm

re: #123 sattv4u2

Well, as long as you have your priorities in order I'll bet you'll have great success in business!!!

LOL, indeed.

128 Big Steve  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:21:16pm

re: #117 sattv4u2

Spent three months in an office in Saigon, translating walky talky transmissions that were in Russian. Left my weapon in a file cabinet and honest to God when I was withdrawn a spider had made a web in the barrel. The most danger I was ever in was trying to eat the local Nuoc Mam fish sauce.

129 stabby  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:22:06pm

I'll either get serious about now or get a job.

Between clients I'm having to take search engine visibility seriously this week.

My competitors managed to climb up google which could put me out of business as I'm not on page one on maps anymore.

So... looking at my website, looking at my competator's sites, buying google adwords.

130 Godisdeadandburied  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:22:11pm

re: #5 lawhawk

"By this rationale, everyone who called on the video game makers, Hollywood, and others to stop making games depicting gun violence are also committing treason in crushing the First Amendment. Yes Wayne, that means you've committed treason. /wingnut logic as applied."

Excellent point. Using this rational, the religious right is also committing treason against the First Amendment's freedom of religion clause.

Personally, I do not pay attention to shouts of "treason" coming from the people who defend the Confederacy.

131 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:23:32pm

re: #92 Targetpractice

Beginning to think the trick might not be so much reclassification/banning of certain firearms so much as requiring very expensive liability insurance and/or making gun owners criminally liable if their firearms are used in the commission of a crime, even if "stolen."

We will make a lot of progress when politicians lose their fear of the gun lobby and realize that a majority of Americans are sick of gun violence and gun fetishism.

132 sattv4u2  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:23:49pm

re: #129 stabby

My competitors managed to climb up google which could put me out of business as I'm not on page one on maps anymore

Wanna bet THEY don't make clients wait while they chat online !?!?!

133 stabby  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:24:35pm

Also on topic of guns, I want to see see guns treated exactly like cars.

That would change things a lot

134 sattv4u2  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:25:10pm

re: #133 stabby

Also on topic of guns, I want to see see guns treated exactly like cars.

That would change things a lot

Valet parking at restaurants??

I don't think thats such a good idea!!

135 sattv4u2  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:28:35pm

Lessee

"I gave my car keys to the valet and I think he took the car for a joy ride"

"I left my semi automatic with the valet and I think he took it for a shooting spree"

Nahhh,,,
I want to see see guns treated exactly like cars.
not a good idea

136 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:30:37pm

re: #71 lawhawk

The police are treating this as though the woman sold the gunman the weapons, but the woman through her lawyer and a relative claim that the guns were stolen from the woman's car (though they can't recall or say whether a police report was ever filed on the theft).

[Link: www.wgrz.com...]

Once big problem is that people don't report real gun theft and that many "thefts" are cover for straw purchases. It's difficult, thanks to the anti-ATF legislation in recent years, to detect which is which or to prosecute. I believe that failure to report a gun theft within, say, 8 hours of its discovery, needs to be a felony offense.

137 sattv4u2  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:33:44pm

re: #136 William Barnett-Lewis

failure to report a gun theft within, say, 8 hours of its discovery, needs to be a felony offense.

And there's the out right there

"No officer. I wasn't aware that my gun was missing till 7 hours ago!!"

138 CuriousLurker  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:36:04pm

re: #135 sattv4u2

When you run out of ammo you just pull up to your local drive-thru refill station and say "Fill 'er up!"

You have to buy gun liability insurance in case you shoot somebody.

139 sattv4u2  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:48:55pm

re: #138 CuriousLurker

EXACTLY like cars!!

{sigh}

140 AntonSirius  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:50:48pm

re: #71 lawhawk

The police are treating this as though the woman sold the gunman the weapons, but the woman through her lawyer and a relative claim that the guns were stolen from the woman's car (though they can't recall or say whether a police report was ever filed on the theft).

[Link: www.wgrz.com...]

Good. People need to learn to be more responsible with their firearms. If you have guns and they get stolen, and you don't immediately file a report to that effect, I have zero sympathy for you if the guns are then used in a crime and the police come knocking.

Reminds me of the Angela Davis case a little, actually... there was a hagiographical doc on her at the Toronto film fest this year, and while she's done a lot of things in her life I can admire the total lack of an explanation as to how guns purchased by her wound up being used in the Haley murder was very conspicuous by its absence.

141 AntonSirius  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 1:55:38pm

re: #105 sattv4u2

I've got to get going!!
/

Hello, I must be going.
I cannot stay,
I came to say
I must be going.
I'm glad I came
but just the same
I must be going.

For my sake you must stay,
for if you go away,
you'll spoil this party
I am throwing.

I'll stay a week or two,
I'll stay the summer through,
but I am telling you,
I must be going.

142 Kdizzle  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:32:40pm

re: #93 stabby

Yes you're above it all on your self-righteous centrist perch aren't you?

143 S.D.  Sat, Dec 29, 2012 4:55:28am

Good Going, Wing Nuts: You'll get that site shut down with all your incredibly stupid BS....

As it's an exercise in the *1st* amendment, I'm sure that's what you want.

144 MarshRabbit  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:47:28am

"The Constitution was written to restrain the government"
The framers met in 1787 because the Articles of Confederation had left the federal government too weak, not too strong.


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