I’ve been taking some time today for non-Internet activities, like making almond butter, watching the movie L.A. Confidential for the third time (it’s still great), and thoroughly enjoying Huell Howser’s show on one of the greatest restaurants in Los Angeles, Philippe the Original - Home of the French Dip Sandwich. So here’s a Saturday night open thread as I dream about taking a trip downtown to Philippe’s for a double dip…
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Shvaughn Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:17:01pm |
Philippe's is awesome. Now I'm thinking about taking a trip down there too! It's not that far for me...
(Reminder: They only take cash so grab some money from the ATM before heading down!)
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:23:16pm |
Testing posting after upgrading Xubuntu from 12.04 to 12.10.
Everything seems good...
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:23:20pm |
You've only seen L.A. Confidential three times? Heck, I saw it three times while it was in the theater.
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b_sharp Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:25:00pm |
re: #2 William Barnett-Lewis
Testing posting after upgrading Xubuntu from 12.04 to 12.10.
Everything seems good...
Both use the 3.?.? kernel so it would be surprising if there was an upgrade problem
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Charles Johnson Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:34:23pm |
On the other hand, Rambo: First Blood Part II has not aged well.
Nice mullet, Sly.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:36:11pm |
3.5.0-23 but yeah, I didn't expect trouble. Just pleased I didn't have to reinstall the printer drivers as the ones from Brother for their wireless lasers are a PITA. Still have some third party stuff to check as well in case of library conflicts, but still easier than some Apple & MS upgrades over the years.
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allegro Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:36:33pm |
I just watched Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows and loved the heck out of it. The first Sherlock Holmes movie with Robert Downey, Jr and Jude Law was OK, this one was way more fun. They took the successful parts of the first and multiplied them for the best movie sequel I think I've ever seen, where the second way surpasses the first.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:38:20pm |
re: #8 allegro
I just watched Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows and loved the heck out of it. The first Sherlock Holmes movie with Robert Downey, Jr and Jude Law was OK, this one was way more fun. They took the successful parts of the first and multiplied them for the best movie sequel I think I've ever seen, where the second way surpasses the first.
I didn't entirely love it, but the way the movie handled Moriarty was perfect. He was written and played perfectly as Sherlock Holmes' nemesis.
(revised)
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allegro Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:39:19pm |
re: #9 Dark_Falcon
I didn't entirely love it, but the way the movie handled Moriarty was perfect. He was written and played perfectly and Sherlock Holmes' doppleganger.
The whole chess scene at the end rocked. Very smart and entirely fun.
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Targetpractice Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:39:33pm |
re: #8 allegro
I just watched Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows and loved the heck out of it. The first Sherlock Holmes movie with Robert Downey, Jr and Jude Law was OK, this one was way more fun. They took the successful parts of the first and multiplied them for the best movie sequel I think I've ever seen, where the second way surpasses the first.
Being a bit of a Holmes buff, I could see (most) of the ending coming. Though the early part caught me by surprise.
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Vicious Babushka Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:40:14pm |
re: #8 allegro
I just watched Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows and loved the heck out of it. The first Sherlock Holmes movie with Robert Downey, Jr and Jude Law was OK, this one was way more fun. They took the successful parts of the first and multiplied them for the best movie sequel I think I've ever seen, where the second way surpasses the first.
I didn't understand why they killed of Rachel McAdams right at the beginning. Although Noomi Rapace was terrific.
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Kronocide Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:40:52pm |
I'm changing out security system in my house as I consider murdering the last half pizza and a wee bit of Macallan 12. Like a 1/4 bottle, almost disrespectful to save it....
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freetoken Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:42:03pm |
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b_sharp Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:42:03pm |
re: #7 William Barnett-Lewis
3.5.0-23 but yeah, I didn't expect trouble. Just pleased I didn't have to reinstall the printer drivers as the ones from Brother for their wireless lasers are a PITA. Still have some third party stuff to check as well in case of library conflicts, but still easier than some Apple & MS upgrades over the years.
The Brother printers can use the generic HP drivers, can't they?
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:42:05pm |
re: #10 allegro
The whole chess scene at the end rocked. Very smart and entirely fun.
Indeed. Holmes realized that there was no way he could avoid being thrown over the veranda wall by Moriarty, so he did something Moriarty wouldn't be able to counter and took the professor of crime over the wall with him.
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Targetpractice Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:42:12pm |
re: #12 Vicious Babushka
I didn't understand why they killed of Rachel McAdams right at the beginning. Although Noomi Rapace was terrific.
That was what I wasn't expecting. Then again, considering the ending, there's no guarantee that she's actually dead.
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allegro Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:43:22pm |
re: #11 Targetpractice
Being a bit of a Holmes buff, I could see (most) of the ending coming. Though the early part caught me by surprise.
It had a tongue-in-cheek and affectionate tone that had me completely charmed from beginning to end. Every actor was pitch-perfect from the leads to Stephen Frye (who I can never get enough of), Noomi Rapace, and certainly the actor who played Moriarty with delicious understatement.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:43:41pm |
re: #8 allegro
Eh, I just can't get Downey as Holmes, mostly because I dislike him. I've been far more interested in the modern dress Sherlock on BBC. Now that's the first version that is as good as & even better than the Jeremy Brett versions.
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wrenchwench Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:44:09pm |
Here's my favorite Philippe: Wynne.
Best 4 seconds of dancing ever starts at 2:59.
Later, lizards.
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allegro Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:45:05pm |
re: #12 Vicious Babushka
I didn't understand why they killed of Rachel McAdams right at the beginning. Although Noomi Rapace was terrific.
I was surprised by that, too. I kept expecting her to turn up again somewhere.
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Vicious Babushka Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:46:03pm |
re: #19 William Barnett-Lewis
Eh, I just can't get Downey as Holmes, mostly because I dislike him. I've been far more interested in the modern dress Sherlock on BBC. Now that's the first version that is as good as & even better than the Jeremy Brett versions.
Jeremy Brett was the best Holmes ever.
Peter Ustinov was the best Poirot ever.
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allegro Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:46:18pm |
re: #19 William Barnett-Lewis
Eh, I just can't get Downey as Holmes, mostly because I dislike him. I've been far more interested in the modern dress Sherlock on BBC. Now that's the first version that is as good as & even better than the Jeremy Brett versions.
The one with Benedict Cumberbatch? I loved that! I'm hoping they do a Season 3 and many more. It rocks.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:47:06pm |
re: #15 b_sharp
The Brother printers can use the generic HP drivers, can't they?
Didn't want to, for me at least, over the wireless. When I plugged in the USB, generic PCL worked fine. So I fought with the Brother script and got it to work but it took more than any other printer driver in a long while.
The flipside? A fast, cheap ($119 OTD) laser printer with Ethernet, USB & wireless connectivity and a built-in duplexer. Much better than feeding some damn inkjet near daily.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:47:53pm |
re: #12 Vicious Babushka
I didn't understand why they killed of Rachel McAdams right at the beginning. Although Noomi Rapace was terrific.
I agree with TP that her character's death is not entirely certain, but removing her from the equation in the way Moriarty did served two purposes for the story:
1. It made the pursuit and exposure of Moriarty personal for Holmes, giving it added intensity and justifying Holmes being willing to die to take Moriarty down.
2. It cleared the way for Rapace's character and also kept intact the diad relationship between Holmes and Watson. To keep McAdams' character in the mix would have changed it to more of a triad at best and at worst would have left Watson as the 3rd wheel.
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Vicious Babushka Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:50:01pm |
re: #26 Dark_Falcon
I agree with TP that her character's death in not entirely certain, but removing her from the equation in the way Moriarty did served two purposes for the story:
1. It made the pursuit and exposure of Moriarty personal for Holmes, giving it added intensity and justifying Holmes being willing to die to take Moriarty down.
2. It cleared the way for Rapace's character and also kept intact the diad relationship between Holmes and Watson. To keep McAdams' character in the mix would have changed it to more of a triad at best and at worst would have left Watson as the 3rd wheel.
But then they brought in Mrs. Watson for what could have been just as easily accomplished by Irene.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:50:37pm |
re: #20 wrenchwench
One of the greatest R&B songs ever written.
Todd Rundgren's version from A Cappella is also great, done entirely with overdubbing and samples of Todd's voice:
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Gus Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:53:23pm |
Creationism by Lewis Black: youtu.be/3PDZTveY4uQ via @youtube— Gus (@Gus_802) December 30, 2012
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allegro Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:54:18pm |
re: #28 Vicious Babushka
But then they brought in Mrs. Watson for what could have been just as easily accomplished by Irene.
I think Mrs. Watson has a great future, assuming there are more sequels in the works. She's kinda snuck in there and there was total joy in the bit of participation we saw from her. We can see that she's really getting off to it. I hope to see more of Noomi in future sequels but think this was it for her. She was a one shot deal.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:55:09pm |
re: #28 Vicious Babushka
But then they brought in Mrs. Watson for what could have been just as easily accomplished by Irene.
Because they wanted to keep Watson's wife in the picture, possibly for her naivety, a quality well suited to comedic purposes.
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Tigger2 Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:56:25pm |
LOL Republicanism at it's best.
video-former-congressional-candidate-caught-slashing-fellow-gop-candidates-tires.
[Link: www.sfreporter.com...]
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Vicious Babushka Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:56:32pm |
I'm just here for the lonely hipsters in need of a hug.— Nein. (@NeinQuarterly) December 30, 2012
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allegro Sat, Dec 29, 2012 6:58:26pm |
re: #32 Dark_Falcon
Because they wanted to keep Watson's wife in the picture, possibly for her naivety, a quality well suited to comedic purposes.
She wasn't so naive. She grabbed that gun real quick and "ordered" her husband to open the door to throw the bad guy off the train. Later, she dove into doing the back work with considerable enthusiasm, more than we see from her husband. I suspect there are great plans for that character that I look forward to.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Dec 29, 2012 7:00:00pm |
re: #30 Gus
Here's me, realizing that Melanie Phillips is a creationist loon in 2009:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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freetoken Sat, Dec 29, 2012 7:02:32pm |
I just found out via my email in-basket that one of the largest and best known jewelry supply businesses, Rio Grande (of NM), has been bought by Berkshire Hathaway (yes, that Berkshire Hathaway .)
So, Warren Buffet sees a future for jewelry?
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TedStriker Sat, Dec 29, 2012 7:03:32pm |
re: #37 freetoken
I just found out via my email in-basket that one of the largest and best known jewelry supply businesses, Rio Grande (of NM), has been bought by Berkshire Hathaway (yes, that Berkshire Hathaway .)
So, Warren Buffet sees a future for jewelry?
Buffett has his hands in a lot of industries.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Dec 29, 2012 7:04:49pm |
re: #2 William Barnett-Lewis
Testing posting after upgrading Xubuntu from 12.04 to 12.10.
Everything seems good...
I reluctantly abandoned Arch Linux after the upheaval caused by the switch to systemd. That's the downside of a bleeding-edge, rolling release distro. I don't have the patience to mess around with such things anymore.
I use Debian (Sid) with XFCE on my work laptop. My home computers are in need of a new distro. Both my laptop and desktop are running Arch, and I haven't updated in months. Any update at this point would cause severe breakage that I don't care to fix. My inclination is to just go with Debian... but I want to audition some others.
Xubuntu would probably require the least amount of post-installation work, but in my experience Xubuntu has always been ridiculously slow and bloated as compared to other XFCE distros.
Ahh, choice. What a pain in the ass it can be.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Dec 29, 2012 7:18:23pm |
re: #39 Our Precious Bodily Fluids
Xubuntu would probably require the least amount of post-installation work, but in my experience Xubuntu has always been ridiculously slow and bloated as compared to other XFCE distros.
Ahh, choice. What a pain in the ass it can be.
Heh.
I've only tried a smallish number of distros. So far, NetBSD with OLVWM is the screaming fastest with the smallest ram footprint but doesn't play nice with anything :p Xubuntu is a reasonable cross between speed, footprint and ability to "just get it going". It's a boatload faster than the monstrosity of a desktop regular Ubuntu uses... :eek:
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freetoken Sat, Dec 29, 2012 7:20:09pm |
re: #38 TedStriker
Buffett has his hands in a lot of industries.
In this case, I suspect it's a gamble that jewelry source products will keep up with inflation. Rio Grande sells a lot of metal, and stones, both finished and unfinished. Their physical assets will climb in value.
However, the problem is that precious metals have become too precious for most Americans. This has been a limiting factor, but maybe at the wholesale level Buffet is betting that the bigger players will hold on to whatever changes happen in the American market.
It's a play similar to real estate, water, or other resources. It's a bet to ride inflation.
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gwangung Sat, Dec 29, 2012 7:23:08pm |
re: #37 freetoken
I just found out via my email in-basket that one of the largest and best known jewelry supply businesses, Rio Grande (of NM), has been bought by Berkshire Hathaway (yes, that Berkshire Hathaway .)
So, Warren Buffet sees a future for jewelry?
He's owned Ben Bridge Jewelers up in the NW for quite some time.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Dec 29, 2012 7:24:49pm |
re: #39 Our Precious Bodily Fluids
There are a million tangents in Technology. My choice of tech has served me well. I'm considered a subject matter expert on scanguns. That means connecting with any and all OS's on multiply server platforms. Connection to various DB's including Oracle sockets and calls/returns. It is something I really enjoy with Technology and 3rd party WMS solutions. Lots of schools and conferences around the country and I get to travel to our global offices to set up scanguns for them.
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allegro Sat, Dec 29, 2012 7:27:34pm |
re: #43 A Man for all Seasons
There are a million tangents in Technology. My choice of tech has served me well. I'm considered a subject matter expert on scanguns. That means connecting with any and all OS's on multiply server platforms. Connection to various DB's including Oracle sockets and calls/returns. It is something I really enjoy with Technology and 3rd party WMS solutions. Lots of schools and conferences around the country and I get to travel to our global offices to set up scanguns for them.
Yanno, I'm pretty fluent in English, being my native language and all, but WTF did you just say? I can read a French newspaper and understand the gist of the story easier than that.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Dec 29, 2012 7:32:45pm |
re: #44 allegro
Yanno, I'm pretty fluent in English, being my native language and all, but WTF did you just say? I can read a French newspaper and understand the gist of the story easier than that.
Whoops sorry...I've spent my professional career learning everything there is to know about scanguns. It has been rewarding and challenging and fun for 15 years. :)
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freetoken Sat, Dec 29, 2012 7:40:17pm |
One of my favorite bits of tech is the "hammer". It's been used to make many a pretty thing:
Image: hammered_copper_plate_90202-6.jpg
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efuseakay Sat, Dec 29, 2012 7:50:09pm |
re: #33 Tigger2
LOL Republicanism at it's best.
video-former-congressional-candidate-caught-slashing-fellow-gop-candidates-tires.[Link: www.sfreporter.com...]
If he's a felon, wish his 2nd Amendment rights goodbye!
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RexMundi Sat, Dec 29, 2012 7:53:12pm |
I LOVE L.A. Confidential! First bluray I ever bought (along with The Dark Knight). The camera shots, the story, the acting, that noir feeling to it, it's just a great, great movie.
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allegro Sat, Dec 29, 2012 7:53:18pm |
re: #45 A Man for all Seasons
Whoops sorry...I've spent my professional career learning everything there is to know about scanguns. It has been rewarding and challenging and fun for 15 years. :)
Yeah, well someday I'll get back at ya with a discussion of myxoviruses... or something. :P
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Shiplord Kirel Sat, Dec 29, 2012 7:57:20pm |
re: #33 Tigger2
LOL Republicanism at it's best.
video-former-congressional-candidate-caught-slashing-fellow-gop-candidates-tires.[Link: www.sfreporter.com...]
That's amazing. They actually have Republicans in Santa Fe. Who could have imagined such a thing?
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Interesting Times Sat, Dec 29, 2012 7:59:44pm |
re: #49 allegro
Hey, speaking of your area of expertise, did you see this?
Fighting may have shaped evolution of human hand
Pretty provocative comments from the researchers:
"I think there is a lot of resistance...to the idea that, at some level humans are by nature aggressive animals. I actually think that attitude, and the people who have tried to make the case that we don't have a nature - those people have not served us well.
"I think we would be better off if we faced the reality that we have these strong emotions and sometimes they prime us to behave in violent ways. I think if we acknowledged that we'd be better able to prevent violence in future."
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Kronocide Sat, Dec 29, 2012 8:00:25pm |
re: #44 allegro
Yanno, I'm pretty fluent in English, being my native language and all, but WTF did you just say? I can read a French newspaper and understand the gist of the story easier than that.
What me meant was 'Pew pew pew pew, scanguns'
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Stanghazi Sat, Dec 29, 2012 8:01:06pm |
re: #43 A Man for all Seasons
updinged with a complete huh.
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Stanghazi Sat, Dec 29, 2012 8:05:46pm |
re: #53 Kronocide
What me meant was 'Pew pew pew pew, scanguns'
Are you referring to Allegro's y chromosome artwork? hahaha the best. pew pew pew.
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Romantic Heretic Sat, Dec 29, 2012 8:06:20pm |
re: #33 Tigger2
Oi vay iz mir. What a prick.
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Gus Sat, Dec 29, 2012 8:07:34pm |
re: #46 freetoken
One of my favorite bits of tech is the "hammer". It's been used to make many a pretty thing:
Image: hammered_copper_plate_90202-6.jpg
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HoosierHoops Sat, Dec 29, 2012 8:07:49pm |
re: #54 Stanghazi
updinged with a complete huh.
Sorry..I'm buzzed on pain killers.. But that's my job..scanguns. They are small computers that can be complex to operate and program. I've really enjoyed it
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biorabbi Sat, Dec 29, 2012 8:09:30pm |
I've lost count of how many times I've watched LA Confidential. It's like fine wine.
Rolo Tomassi!
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Stanghazi Sat, Dec 29, 2012 8:11:51pm |
re: #58 A Man for all Seasons
Sorry..I'm buzzed on pain killers.. But that's my job..scanguns. They are small computers that can be complex to operate and program. I've really enjoyed it
pew pew pew!
I've watched The Way We Were, now the original (shit I can't remember the name.....couple betrothed to others meet on cruise ship, fall in love, empire st. bldg, TROUBLES) movie. Troubled love on TCM, I like it.
(no pew pew pew)
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Stanghazi Sat, Dec 29, 2012 8:12:52pm |
re: #60 Kronocide
l o l
find me allegro's y chromosome and I'll sleep tonight! (I tried, I give up easy)
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freetoken Sat, Dec 29, 2012 8:17:39pm |
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Stanghazi Sat, Dec 29, 2012 8:20:09pm |
OT. I have an Obama beanie. When I'm feeling ready I wear it. I've been out and about a little today with that thing on my head. Quite amazing the division. The young, the workers, smile. The oldies grimace or frown.
Happy NY.
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Gus Sat, Dec 29, 2012 8:26:50pm |
Killgore's still all worried about Geller and Spencer.
/// // / /// / /// /
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freetoken Sat, Dec 29, 2012 8:47:06pm |
On another topic, when discussing Islam I have tried on occasion to bring up the idea that Islam, as a religion, was dependent upon the pre-existing Christianity that was already established in the near East in the 6th century (as well as the continued presence of Jewish communities, and of the sometimes conflicting relationships between Jews and Christians in the region.)
To further that idea:
Buried Christian Empire Casts New Light on Early Islam
Interesting stuff, and it supports the idea that one of the sources of Islam is a deviant version of Eastern Christianity.
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The Ghost of a Flea Sat, Dec 29, 2012 8:48:42pm |
re: #23 Vicious Babushka
Jeremy Brett was the best Holmes ever.
Peter Ustinov was the best Poirot ever.
But who was the best Marple?
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jaunte Sat, Dec 29, 2012 9:02:23pm |
TOUCHEBAG (n): Irritating person who admittedly has some pretty good come-backs.
— Chris Urquhart (@chrisurquhart) December 29, 2012
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dragonath Sat, Dec 29, 2012 9:16:30pm |
re: #5 Charles Johnson
On the other hand, Rambo: First Blood Part II has not aged well.
Nice mullet, Sly.
On the other hand...
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allegro Sat, Dec 29, 2012 9:25:39pm |
re: #62 Stanghazi
l o l
find me allegro's y chromosome and I'll sleep tonight! (I tried, I give up easy)
I still have it...
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freetoken Sat, Dec 29, 2012 9:54:31pm |
I've been pondering the idea of my "Pages" for quite a while... trying to figure out what to do next.
On the whole, I'm glad to have produced what I did. For the most part my goal has been not to just regurgitate some news wire story or link to another politics-centric blog article (e.g. TP, HuffPo, and the like) but to try and add value.
And for some Pages I have written there has been an audience, if the "views" counter is any evidence. I'm happy that some have garnered roughly a thousand views or more, and of course the few that then went on to become featured on the LGF front page garnered much more attention.
My current challenge is to try and figure out how to get more readers. The impression I'm left with here at the turn of 2012 into 2013 is that the blogosphere is so over-saturated (in the English language subset of the W.W.W. anyway) that the survivors are coalescing into fewer but larger entities - notice how HuffPo has sucked up so many writers, who seem so willing to give out there work for no direct remuneration. These writers then have to have other items to hawk, such as books, for which they use their HuffPo pieces as an advertising front.
Anyway, I know what sells in our culture - sex, vanity, and escapism (which includes the transfer-the-blame industry.) Many, even most, of the "services" products available in our commerce center around those items. However, 5 decades of my life have conspired to turn my personality away from pandering to those all very human tastes.
Ascetic. Artist. Prophet. Those are hard businesses to be in. Not that I am any of them, but my own personality tends toward those types.
So here I am writing, avoiding what I need to do (year end taxes, most of all filing a mountain of paper/bills away), but still chewing on the problem of what to do next, and if I can turn my penchant for writing into anything profitable.
In the meantime:
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prairiefire Sat, Dec 29, 2012 10:04:06pm |
re: #77 freetoken
Do you have any connections to literary agents, perhaps for university or government publications? I wonder if there might be some opportunity in the higher education realm. I would not cast you as a Mickey Spillane!
Many an ink stained wretch has starved to death for want of an audience, I'm afraid.
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Poiks Sat, Dec 29, 2012 10:05:12pm |
So...true story. I've been to Phillippe's exactly once. I and a bunch of coworkers went before the L.A. Auto Show. Relevant background: I'm hard of hearing, and a coworker named Betty is a southern belle without any filter.
We went in, ordered our food, and went to our "table" (which seemed like a picnic bench). We got our food on cafeteria-style trays, and I heard Betty ask "Where's the old Jew?".
I sat for a few seconds pondering how to respond, thinking that perhaps Phillippe's, which I knew had some historical significance, had some old Jewish person as a patron saint.
Eventually it was clarified that Betty meant "au jus."
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 29, 2012 10:07:01pm |
Sorry I was gone for a while. My best friend and I were talking on the phone.
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allegro Sat, Dec 29, 2012 10:12:04pm |
re: #52 Interesting Times
Hey, speaking of your area of expertise, did you see this?
Fighting may have shaped evolution of human hand
Pretty provocative comments from the researchers:
My first impression from reading the article was WTF? Not unusual since articles like this typically simplify and often take bizarre messages from the actual research papers. I quickly scanned the original paper to see no such conclusion as presented in the article. Not surprising since that would be entering into the evo-psych realm. Though the research does support the structure of the hand as evolved to be an effective club for striking as well as to be used as a structure for gripping and fine manipulation (a remarkable structure, in other words), the emotional content, i.e. inherent violence of homo sapiens, cannot be inferred. The professor quoted in the article is going well beyond his research in making such a claim.
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allegro Sat, Dec 29, 2012 10:23:14pm |
re: #81 allegro
I should add that it cannot be inferred in my opinion. As a reviewer of the paper, I would reject such a conclusion as not supported.
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freetoken Sat, Dec 29, 2012 10:26:58pm |
re: #78 prairiefire
I am ink stained wretch
I am ink stained wretch
Ink stained wretch I am
That ink-stained-wretch-I-am
That ink-stained-wretch-I-am!
I do not like
that ink-stained-wretch-I-am
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Dec 29, 2012 10:49:41pm |
re: #52 Interesting Times
Hey, speaking of your area of expertise, did you see this?
Fighting may have shaped evolution of human hand
Pretty provocative comments from the researchers:
Pretty sure the human hand evolved for masturbation.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Dec 29, 2012 10:52:58pm |
re: #85 goddamnedfrank
Pretty sure the human hand evolved for masturbation.
And on that note, goodnight.
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allegro Sat, Dec 29, 2012 10:59:12pm |
re: #85 goddamnedfrank
Pretty sure the human hand evolved for masturbation.
LOL That is as likely as the professor's statement in the article.
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austin_blue Sat, Dec 29, 2012 11:25:23pm |
re: #85 goddamnedfrank
Pretty sure the human hand evolved for masturbation.
Or pulling a trigger.
;-)
Really, Frank, why is ten rounds more arbitrary than my six? Not doing anything about the capacity of bullets in guns is rock dumb. No one, whether crazy or trying to make a name for themselves (also nuts) should have the ability to walk into a public space and shoot twenty kids, literally, to pieces using thirty round clips.
What's a good number for you?
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freetoken Sat, Dec 29, 2012 11:28:08pm |
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austin_blue Sat, Dec 29, 2012 11:33:32pm |
re: #89 freetoken
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Six? Ten rounds? Sixteen? What should the allowable capacity be in a gun?
Mass shooters like high capacity weapons. It makes it so much *easier* to shoot the maximum number of people in the shortest amount of time.
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Jocko's Rocket Ship Sat, Dec 29, 2012 11:40:30pm |
Staying up late hoping to make to 3am for the US-CAN JR game in Russia. I need some good hockey, and this game should bring it.
I love LA Confidential. The Ellroy book was a fun read. The movie changes a few major things for the worse, but it's still better than the book by far. It's a mini- Godfather - power and corruption - set in LA when it was most interesting to me. Great ensemble cast, beautifully shot, perfectly executed. Lots of great performances, but James Cromwell stood out creating a really fun villain with the most cynical gift of gab.
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austin_blue Sat, Dec 29, 2012 11:57:26pm |
re: #92 freetoken
reload
Well that's the point isn't it? A shooter is most vulnerable when he's trying to reload. He's just a guy with a piece of metal in his hand. The Tucson shooter was tackled doing exactly that. If his clip had held six, how many people would not have been shot?
Maybe this one?
Christina Taylor Green, 9, of Tucson. Green was accompanied to the meeting by neighbor Susan Hileman. As her date of birth was September 11, 2001, she had appeared in the book Faces of Hope: Babies Born on 9/11 . She was the granddaughter of former Major League Baseball player and manager Dallas Green and the second cousin of actress Sophia Bush.
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austin_blue Sun, Dec 30, 2012 12:19:47am |
re: #94 researchok
Morning, all
Morning! Just in time for me to pack it in. Time for some kip, that is. Sweet dreams to all.
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researchok Sun, Dec 30, 2012 12:21:06am |
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freetoken Sun, Dec 30, 2012 12:30:20am |
re: #93 austin_blue
I meant reload the page to see what I wrote.
As far as magazine size, what's to keep the dedicated from just buying two pistols that hold smaller loads? Most of these gun nuts have more than one gun already.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Dec 30, 2012 12:30:48am |
re: #88 austin_blue
Or pulling a trigger.
;-)
Really, Frank, why is ten rounds more arbitrary than my six?
You mean why is it less arbitrary, and the answer is because it will make far fewer people in to felons. Holding onto Grandpa's 1911 or Garand isn't viewed as a crime. It's easy to comply with, especially if there's an exception for tubular mag rimfire lever action rifles. Ten is actually doable whereas six turn reasonable, responsible gun owners into the opposition. If that's what you want, fine. Living in California, red staters already view us as another country, and getting them to comply with the same ten round capacity restriction California has will be hard enough of a fight. Six rounds is practically and politically impossible.
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JAFO Sun, Dec 30, 2012 12:36:49am |
re: #99 goddamnedfrank
You mean why is it less arbitrary, and the answer is because it will make far fewer people in to felons. Holding onto Grandpa's 1911 or Garand isn't viewed as a crime. It's easy to comply with, especially if there's an exception for tubular mag rimfire lever action rifles. Ten is actually doable whereas six turn reasonable, responsible gun owners into the opposition. If that's what you want, fine. Living in California, red staters already view us as another country, and getting them to comply with the same ten round capacity restriction California has will be hard enough of a fight. Six rounds is practically and politically impossible.
I live in California and have a SKS with a fixed 10 round magazine. I'm kinda biased to 10 round limit too.
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freetoken Sun, Dec 30, 2012 12:41:26am |
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freetoken Sun, Dec 30, 2012 12:41:47am |
While I'm at it, here's the Ames Bros:
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Tigger2005 Sun, Dec 30, 2012 1:32:37am |
Definition of a slacker: someone who's only seen L.A. Confidential three lousy times!
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Tigger2005 Sun, Dec 30, 2012 1:35:47am |
Saw Les Miserables: Beautiful movie, can't get "Do You Hear the People Sing" out of my head.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 30, 2012 5:20:01am |
re: #109 PhillyPretzel
Good Morning.
Good morning, PP. Ready to see the Giants hand the Eagles their 12th loss of the season?
As for me, I'll be watching the Bears and seeing if they can take down the Lions, which should happen. But then Green Bay still needs to win its last regular season game against Minnesota for the bears to make the playoffs.
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Dec 30, 2012 5:23:40am |
re: #110 Dark_Falcon
If it is not Northeast High School vs Central High School or Army vs Navy I am not interested in football. Enjoy watching the games you mentioned.
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Feline Fearless Leader Sun, Dec 30, 2012 5:43:06am |
re: #110 Dark_Falcon
Good morning, PP. Ready to see the Giants hand the Eagles their 12th loss of the season?
As for me, I'll be watching the Bears and seeing if they can take down the Lions, which should happen. But then Green Bay still needs to win its last regular season game against Minnesota for the bears to make the playoffs.
Steelers have a useless "pride" game for the first time in a few years. Maybe this will get them more serious about fixing their offensive line rather than counting on their QB's ability to avoid sacks. (He still gets sacked/hit a lot, but he does have an above average ability for delaying it from happening.)
As for the Eagles, this is probably the Reid finale. Be interesting to know how he sold this to the players - perhaps as their last chance to make an impression for being employed next season?
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Dec 30, 2012 5:56:38am |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:02:26am |
re: #112 Feline Fearless Leader
Steelers have a useless "pride" game for the first time in a few years. Maybe this will get them more serious about fixing their offensive line rather than counting on their QB's ability to avoid sacks. (He still gets sacked/hit a lot, but he does have an above average ability for delaying it from happening.)
As for the Eagles, this is probably the Reid finale. Be interesting to know how he sold this to the players - perhaps as their last chance to make an impression for being employed next season?
The Eagles can still act as the spoiler against New York. If they win, then Eli Manning and company don't make the playoffs.
The St. Louis Rams are an even more interesting position. With a record of 7-7-1 they aren't making the playoffs, but they have been unbeatable within the NFC West (even San Francisco tied the Rams once and lost once). If the Rams win today, they ensure the the 49ers will be division champions and they'll have a winning record. The 49ers are playing lowly Arizona, but poorer records teams have delivered some shocks this season and the 49ers need the win for home field advantage.
As for the Packers, they face the Vikings. The Packers can knock the Vikings out of the playoffs with a win, and if San Francisco wins they'll get a first round bye. On the other hand, San Francisco is very likely to win, and losing would put the Vikings in the playoffs instead of the Bears. But no, Green Bay doesn't do 'strategic losses' like that, not when playing in Minnesota means having so many of their Cheesehead fans in attendance. The Packers will play hard, and Adrian Peterson is going to need to run like the wind to give the Vikings a chance. Much may depend on defense, with the Vikings' ability to force turnovers ranged against the Packers' ability to stop the run. Bottom line: I still favor Green Bay to win.
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Romantic Heretic Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:39:09am |
re: #106 Tigger2005
Saw Les Miserables: Beautiful movie, can't get "Do You Hear the People Sing" out of my head.
I caught the 10th anniversary while at my folks. I didn't pay much attention as I'm not big on musicals.
Until this came on.
A magnificent song done in fifteen languages.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:41:32am |
Tell me Jean-Paul, how was your date with Yvette?
-Pfui. She was a lay miserable!
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Gus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:45:18am |
Morning! Watch this!
OK, over at the Weekly Standard:
Obama Orders Pay Raise for Biden, Members of Congress, Federal Workers!!
Get it? Teh pay raise! Jump up and down screaming. But look! Over a the Washington Post in 2010:
Obama announces 2-year pay freeze for federal workers
Basically Obama is ending a pay freeze that he himself put in place. He isn't ordering a "pay raise." It mentions the freeze in the body of the WS text. Haven't checked Drudge.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:49:15am |
re: #115 Romantic Heretic
I caught the 10th anniversary while at my folks. I didn't pay much attention as I'm not big on musicals.
Until this came on.
[Embedded content]
A magnificent song done in fifteen languages.
I loved Les Miserables when i first saw it performed at the Chicago Auditorium. I saw it twice there, and again as an televised concert. But all of that was back in the 1990's. As I became more politically minded, my like of Les Miserables declined greatly for factional reasons.
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:59:15am |
I have watched Les Miserables on PBS when they are running the anniversary editions. They were good.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:04:08am |
Hate crime charge in NYC subway death
A 31-year-old Bronx woman has been charged with second-degree murder as a hate crime in the death of a man shoved in front of a subway train, Queens prosecutors said Saturday.
District Attorney Richard A. Brown identified the woman as Erika Menendez. She was awaiting arraignment.
"(She) said in sum and substance 'I pushed a Muslim off the train tracks because I hate Hindus and Muslims ever since 2001 when they put down the twin towers I've been beating them up,'" the prosecutor said in a statement.
The victim, Sunando Sen, grew up in a Hindu family, his roommate said.
Witnesses said a woman paced the platform and talked to herself Thursday evening shortly before pushing the man as the 11-car train entered the station. The 46-year-old man's body was pinned under the second car after it came to a stop.
So it turns out that this particular bigot happens to be Latino. That's noteworthy, but I don't think it says much other than that bigotry is the monopoly of any one group of people.
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Gus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:06:59am |
The president can't actually "introduce legislation" to reform immigration or do anything else.— Matt Yglesias (@mattyglesias) December 30, 2012
Lies! //
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:07:00am |
re: #120 Dark_Falcon
Hate crime charge in NYC subway death
So it turns out that this particular bigot happens to be Latino. That's noteworthy, but I don't think it says much other than that bigotry is the monopoly of any one group of people.
Remember the stink of red herring when the question of George Zimmerman's ethnicity came up...
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:13:56am |
re: #122 Sol Berdinowitz
Remember the stink of red herring when the question of George Zimmerman's ethnicity came up...
In both cases it is the perceived ethnicity or religion of the person who died that is the big issue. But the two cases shouldn't be compared too closely, since there are far more unknowns in the Zimmerman case than there are with the clearly bigoted Erika Menendez. But the fact that they are both Latino is of distinctly secondary if not tertiary importance.
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Gus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:15:04am |
re: #120 Dark_Falcon
Hate crime charge in NYC subway death
So it turns out that this particular bigot happens to be Latino. That's noteworthy, but I don't think it says much other than that bigotry is the monopoly of any one group of people.
You notice how quickly people are to say "she's crazy?"
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sattv4u2 Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:18:05am |
re: #124 Gus
You notice how quickly people are to say "she's crazy?"
Of course society wants (read; NEEDS) to classify anyone as "sane" after doing that, no matter what the motivation
I've met many racists/ bigots/ prejudice people in my life. Not a one of them have ever pushed someone onto a train track
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Gus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:18:52am |
re: #125 sattv4u2
Of course society wants (read; NEEDS) to classify anyone as "sane" after doing that, no matter what the motivation
I've met many racists/ bigots/ prejudice people in my life. Not a one of them have ever pushed someone onto a train track
That's right. Society doesn't bear any burden. She's "just crazy."
//
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sattv4u2 Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:21:07am |
re: #127 Gus
Nidal Malik Hasan is just crazy.
I'm sure at that moment he was
Doesn't make him (nor Erika Menendez.) not guilty!
(Hello, Charles Manson!!)
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Gus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:24:49am |
re: #128 sattv4u2
I'm sure at that moment he was
Doesn't make him (nor Erika Menendez.) not guilty!
(Hello, Charles Manson!!)
Note to self. When in subway station hug the wall.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:27:00am |
re: #129 Gus
Note to self. When in subway station hug the wall.
Why should you worry, Gus? You're already crazy. ;)
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Gus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:27:54am |
re: #130 Dark_Falcon
Why should you worry, Gus? You're already crazy. ;)
Good point. That way I can control my urges.
//
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A Mom Anon Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:29:19am |
re: #127 Gus
Am I the only one who feels like maybe a lack of community is part of the problem? If you are perceived as being odd or different you are at a disadvantage if you do not have plenty of support in the form of family, friends, and the community in general. The last thing people with mental health issues need is to be more isolated than they already are. I can't help but think that in SOME cases at least, a watchful and caring community could and would spot issues in the early stages and not wait til someone becomes so ill they would hurt themselves or others.
When we talk about increasing access to mental health services(and to that I would add the words COMPETENT and APPROPRIATE for the person) I think we also need to address the isolation that the mentally ill and their families face. Our system is slow and inadequate in many if not most cases. I think having strong and functional communities that are not immediately frightened or ashamed of mental illness is going to be a key part of things if we decide to move forward on this issue.
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Gus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:29:45am |
re: #130 Dark_Falcon
Why should you worry, Gus? You're already crazy. ;)
I rode MUNI in SF and took the bus and light rail here for about a month. It's quite the experience dealing with some of these folks.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:30:35am |
2012 and probably 2013 are going to set the already-deplorable public perception of "mental health issues" back 200 years.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:31:40am |
re: #126 Gus
That's right. Society doesn't bear any burden. She's "just crazy."//
Social pressures made a person push another person in front of a train? Please describe the steps one follows to arrive logically at this result.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:31:50am |
re: #110 Dark_Falcon
Good morning, PP. Ready to see the Giants hand the Eagles their 12th loss of the season?
As for me, I'll be watching the Bears and seeing if they can take down the Lions, which should happen. But then Green Bay still needs to win its last regular season game against Minnesota for the bears to make the playoffs.
Haven't you heard? The fix is in and the Packers are to lay down so Adrian Peterson can get his record... /// Don't know which will do what though I think of the four only the Bears won't one and out.
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Feline Fearless Leader Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:32:10am |
re: #126 Gus
That's right. Society doesn't bear any burden. She's "just crazy."
//
Unless the perpetrator is Muslim, in which case they are a terrorist regardless of their mental state and the facts of the case.
///
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Gus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:32:41am |
re: #132 A Mom Anon
Am I the only one who feels like maybe a lack of community is part of the problem? If you are perceived as being odd or different you are at a disadvantage if you do not have plenty of support in the form of family, friends, and the community in general. The last thing people with mental health issues need is to be more isolated than they already are. I can't help but think that in SOME cases at least, a watchful and caring community could and would spot issues in the early stages and not wait til someone becomes so ill they would hurt themselves or others.
When we talk about increasing access to mental health services(and to that I would add the words COMPETENT and APPROPRIATE for the person) I think we also need to address the isolation that the mentally ill and their families face. Our system is slow and inadequate in many if not most cases. I think having strong and functional communities that are not immediately frightened or ashamed of mental illness is going to be a key part of things if we decide to move forward on this issue.
Yes. Isolation is a big problem. Lack of community, family or friend support. Suburban isolation plays a big role with shooters like the one in Newtown, Columbine.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:32:42am |
re: #123 Dark_Falcon
In both cases it is the perceived ethnicity or religion of the person who died that is the big issue. But the two cases shouldn't be compared too closely, since there are far more unknowns in the Zimmerman case than there are with the clearly bigoted Erika Menendez. But the fact that they are both Latino is of distinctly secondary if not tertiary importance.
Which did not prevent it from being a big issue of distraction when the story first broke...
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Gus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:32:53am |
re: #137 Feline Fearless Leader
Unless the perpetrator is Muslim, in which case they are a terrorist regardless of their mental state and the facts of the case.
///
We've got a winner!
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:33:15am |
re: #125 sattv4u2
Of course society wants (read; NEEDS) to classify anyone as "sane" after doing that, no matter what the motivation
I've met many racists/ bigots/ prejudice people in my life. Not a one of them have ever pushed someone onto a train track
How about lynching, shooting or bombing?
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Gus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:33:39am |
re: #135 Our Precious Bodily Fluids
Social pressures made a person push another person in front of a train? Please describe the steps one follows to arrive logically at this result.
Society as in media, posters, hate radio, hate TV, SIOA protests, etc, etc, etc.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:34:59am |
re: #141 Sol Berdinowitz
How about lynching, shooting or bombing?
Nope. Non of the racists/ bigots/ prejudice people I've come across in my life have ever lynched, shot or bombed anyone/thing either!
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:36:41am |
re: #143 sattv4u2
Nope. Non of the racists/ bigots/ prejudice people I've come across in my life have ever lynched, shot or bombed anyone/thing either!
Good to know that you move with a higher class of prejudiced racist bigots...
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sattv4u2 Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:38:43am |
re: #144 Sol Berdinowitz
Good to know that you move with a higher class of prejudiced racist bigots...
Not higher class
Just not insane
(and btw,, I don't "move with" them. Please notice that I stated I've "met"
You've never "met" a racist/ bigoted/ prejudice person ??)
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Gus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:38:47am |
re: #125 sattv4u2
Of course society wants (read; NEEDS) to classify anyone as "sane" after doing that, no matter what the motivation
I've met many racists/ bigots/ prejudice people in my life. Not a one of them have ever pushed someone onto a train track
I wasn't thinking in terms of sentencing. Just in how we as a society perceive these perpetrators as being "just crazy" and seemingly blow off the overall cultural environment that may have motivated these acts.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:40:52am |
re: #146 Gus
I wasn't thinking in terms of sentencing. Just in how we as a society perceive these perpetrators as being "just crazy" and seemingly blow off the overall cultural environment that may have motivated these acts.
unless the perpetrator was a Muslim, in which case they were simply "following the imperatives of their religion"...
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:41:02am |
re: #132 A Mom Anon
I know there are a number here who don't think much of the idea of the urban/rural divide, but I do find that in rural communities people are more in touch with their neighbors and and more community oriented - perhaps through church, perhaps through school. And another issue is the fact that most small communities are relatively homogeneous with one or few groups with in that can pull together.
I've lived in both and find I prefer the smaller communities, so some of this may well be simple bias.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:41:15am |
re: #146 Gus
I wasn't thinking in terms of sentencing. Just in how we as a society perceive these perpetrators as being "just crazy" and seemingly blow off the overall cultural environment that may have motivated these acts.
Thats because there is no blanket "cultural environment that may have motivated these acts". In each case the history and the triggers are different. In the case of this lady it seems as if 9/11 started it. in the case of someone else it could have been an unhappy childhood, or the loss of a mentor. There is no 'one size fits all" trigger
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A Mom Anon Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:46:02am |
re: #134 Our Precious Bodily Fluids
I think education is a key, but I'm not sure how you reach people in enough numbers to make things shift in the other direction.
I've been pretty much a full time advocate for my autistic son for going on 19 yrs now. Even people with training and knowledge sometimes aren't as informed as you would think. I'm not sure how barriers can be broken so that there's less fear and more action taken to help rather than the knee jerk media responses we see every time some awful tragedy happens. It's soul crushing.
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A Mom Anon Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:53:54am |
re: #148 William Barnett-Lewis
I think there's a bit to that honestly, small towns function differently than larger metropolitan areas do, that should be obvious. There's something to be said for both ways of living, each has advantages. I think there are ways to design and maybe redesign our suburbs to be more "neighborly"(sidewalks, more mixed use neighborhoods-with shops within walking distance, smaller schools, etc),but those aren't a priority and won't be until people really begin to understand that we need each other a lot more than we're admitting at this point in time. It's not a simple issue, but in order to make this better, it's going to take a multi pronged approach. Community matters, but it's only one part of the bigger picture.
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SpaceJesus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:06:09am |
Freep discusses ways to stem gang violence
[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]
Well, they have been killing the heck out of each other in Africa for generations. There always seems to be more of them though, and it’s always someone else’s problem to fix ( not their own). Time to build that wall.
3 posted on Saturday, December 29, 2012 8:44:17 AM by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Lorianne
These boys need a church.
4 posted on Saturday, December 29, 2012 9:44:33 AM by RingerSIX (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccine that they offer down at our Church.)
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quote:
Actually that is about the only thing ever taught them good behavior
Even if brought by missionaries and plantation owners
The Lord does indeed work in mysterious ways
13 posted on Saturday, December 29, 2012 8:59:03 AM by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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Gus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:10:10am |
Even showing his two gold medals couldn't prevent Mo Farah being held by US customs on suspicion of being a terrorist. telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics...— pourmecoffee (@pourmecoffee) December 30, 2012
Cough, cough, cough.
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:10:25am |
What cognitive dissonance?
GUN BANS MAKE CRIME WORSE: Britain banned guns in 1997, gun crimes DOUBLED in next decade. online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) December 30, 2012
Winnable war: altogether, 24 abortion clinics shut down on 2012. christiannewswire.com/news/335677114...— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) December 30, 2012
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:11:20am |
I have to stop watching the DERP list. Help me please.
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Kronocide Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:15:22am |
re: #143 sattv4u2
Nope. Non of the racists/ bigots/ prejudice people I've come across in my life have ever lynched, shot or bombed anyone/thing either!
Hitler never personally shot or gassed a Jew.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:17:58am |
re: #156 Vicious Babushka
I have to stop watching the DERP list. Help me please.
I don't think humanity works like Schrödinger's box -- we're in a constant and accelerating state of DERP whether you're observing it or not.
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Gus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:18:07am |
Right. Islamophobia couldn't possibly have anything to do with this. "I've run into some haters before in my life but none of them actually shove people onto an oncoming subway." Father Coughlin never shoved anyone in front of a subway either.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:20:14am |
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Gus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:20:37am |
RIP Sen, the latest victim of 911 jihad @afsana2deena Lunatic said,"since 2001 when they put down the twin towers I've been beating them up"— Pamela Geller (@Atlasshrugs) December 30, 2012
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Kronocide Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:21:01am |
How soon before we realize that hate speech is somewhat equivalent to shouting 'Fire!' in a very large crowded theater? It's tricky to deal with and very scary to consider the consequences of that conclusion. But it seems people still think Geller and Fischer spouting their hate do so in a vacuum where there are no consequences.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:21:58am |
re: #136 William Barnett-Lewis
Haven't you heard? The fix is in and the Packers are to lay down so Adrian Peterson can get his record... /// Don't know which will do what though I think of the four only the Bears won't one and out.
The great thing about the Packers is that how they are owned makes them uniquely impervious to such 'fixes'. Though I seldom root for them, I've also respected them as good sports (especially since Rogers replaced Farve) and strong competitors. And they have something to play for today, so I think they'll win. But Peterson is fast and dynamic, and since he's gotten better at holding on to the ball he's truly reached his full potential.
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Gus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:23:17am |
re: #161 Our Precious Bodily FluidsI think you should consider seeing a pneumologist.
Yep. Ni-Clang! UK Olympics star being detained at the airport. Nothing to see here. Has no affect on society.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:23:48am |
re: #158 Kronocide
Hitler never personally shot or gassed a Jew.
And we have our Godwin for the thread!
;)
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Gus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:25:31am |
NYPD Muslim Surveillance | American Civil Liberties Union
Nope. Nothing to see here either.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:26:43am |
re: #165 Gus
Yep. Ni-Clang UK Olympics here being detained at the airport. Nothing to see here. Has no affect on society.
Huh?
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Kronocide Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:27:17am |
re: #165 Gus
Yep. Ni-Clang! UK Olympics star being detained at the airport. Nothing to see here. Has no affect on society.
He's obviously the racist because shut up that's why.
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Gus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:28:19am |
Lowe's defends pulling ads from Muslim TV show
Nope. Nothing here.
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Kronocide Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:32:39am |
re: #166 Dark_Falcon
And we have our Godwin for the thread!
;)
My point was appropriate Godwin or not. Just consider at another time or place somebody like Fischer or Geller as the leader of a country.
They'll never pull a trigger or press a button but they'll make incendiary speeches justifying the pulling of many triggers and many buttons. They're doing it now, daily.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:34:24am |
re: #172 Kronocide
My point was appropriate Godwin or not. Just consider at another time or place somebody like Fischer or Geller as the leader of a country.
They'll never pull a trigger or press a button but they'll make incendiary speeches justifying the pulling of many triggers and many buttons. They're doing it now, daily.
I'm not disagreeing with you. Your post was a proof of Godwin's Law, but not a violation of same as it was appropriate to its context.
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Kronocide Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:36:09am |
re: #171 Gus
Lowe's defends pulling ads from Muslim TV show
Nope. Nothing here.
Read the comments: lots of (cough cough) American Exceptionalism.
Nope, nothing to see there either.
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Gus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:38:05am |
Frank Gaffney
Rep. Peter King's Muslim 'Radicalization' Hearings
Fox News
24
"Obama is a Muslim!"
"Innocence of Muslims"
Koran burning.
Anti-Mosque movements.
Fire bombings.
"Terror babies."
Nope. Nothing.
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Gus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:38:50am |
re: #176 Kronocide
Read the comments: lots of (cough cough) American Exceptionalism.
Nope, nothing to see there either.
Clearly this is just another anomaly and there are no outside influences at play here.
//
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Kronocide Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:38:56am |
re: #174 Dark_Falcon
I'm not disagreeing with you. Your post was a proof of Godwin's Law, but not a violation of same as it was appropriate to its context.
I think it technically was a Godwin. But using her rationale, Geller Godwins herself daily in her zeal attacking Muslims: she causes Muslims to want to fly planes into buildings and commit terrorism because of her hate.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:39:14am |
re: #177 Gus
Frank Gaffney
Rep. Peter King's Muslim 'Radicalization' Hearings
Fox News
24
"Obama is a Muslim!"
"Innocence of Muslims"
Koran burning.
Anti-Mosque movements.
Fire bombings.
"Terror babies."Nope. Nothing.
Anti-Sharia legislation
nothing at all...
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BongCrodny Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:40:02am |
re: #116 Sol Berdinowitz
Tell me Jean-Paul, how was your date with Yvette?
-Pfui. She was a lay miserable!
Booooo!
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Kronocide Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:42:47am |
re: #178 Gus
Clearly this is just another anomaly and there are no outside influences at play here.
//
Hey, we're all racists here because we cry racism when there's not racism but we're the real racists so there are racists but it's the people crying racism not the real racists who aren't not racist just race realists.
Crouching Tiger Wingnut Logic Fu.
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Gus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:44:02am |
re: #183 Kronocide
Hey, we're all racists here because we cry racism when there's not racism but we're the real racists so there are racists but it's the people crying racism not the real racists who aren't not racist just race realists.
Crouching
TigerWingnut Logic Fu.
Big Mexican women are driving Muslim terrorists across the corntry!
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:45:21am |
"Race Realist"
Someone who recognizes the ultimate superiority of his/her own race.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:48:02am |
re: #185 Gus
Big Mexican women are driving Muslim terrorists across the corntry!
But another Latino woman just pushed a man she thought was Muslim in front of a train. so the logical conclusion is that Latinas are not monolithic, instead that they show the normal range of human differences.
[hard-wired wingnut brain explodes]
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Gus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:48:13am |
re: #186 Sol Berdinowitz
"Race Realist"
Someone who recognizes the ultimate superiority of his/her own race.
My favorite...
Racial realism or race realism (of late pushed on the euphemism treadmill to human biodiversity, sometimes abbreviated HBD) is a pathetically transparent attempt by bigots to rebrand racialist and racist ideologies. The term is commonly used by David Duke, Jared Taylor, and sundry other white supremacists, which should be a big clue...
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Kronocide Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:50:40am |
re: #186 Sol Berdinowitz
"Race Realist"
Someone who recognizes the ultimate superiority of his/her own race.
It's highbrow elitist racism. Too refined to burn crosses or hold signs on street corners. But still accepting that their race is somehow superior to others.
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Gus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:52:13am |
re: #188 Dark_Falcon
But another Latino woman just pushed a man she thought was Muslim in front of a train. so the logical conclusion is that Latinas are not monolithic, instead that they show the normal range of human differences.
[hard-wired wingnut brain explodes]
Pretty much. I don't think her race matters at all. Anyone that thinks Latino people are immune from bigotry, racism and hatred has been ignoring Latin American history. That and General Francisco Franco.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:52:49am |
re: #190 Kronocide
It's highbrow elitist racism. Too refined to burn crosses or hold signs on street corners. But still accepting that their race is somehow superior to others.
It accepts the "fact" that certain races should not mix...separate but "equal".
/
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Gus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:56:48am |
re: #192 Sol Berdinowitz
It accepts the "fact" that certain races should not mix...separate but "equal".
/
Science!
//
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Kronocide Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:57:52am |
re: #192 Sol Berdinowitz
It accepts the "fact" that certain races should not mix...separate but "equal".
/
Major irony. Race realism has the patina of intellectual underpinnings founded on sciency structures. But the language still has a rudimentary implorement: 'Lets get real.'
Next we'll have homopragmatists.
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lawhawk Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:01:58am |
re: #196 PhillyPretzel
Repeat something enough times, add ominous music, and boom. It's a GOP hit (or at least as close to a hit that the GOP can come up with) with its faithful.
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wrenchwench Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:02:53am |
re: #195 Gus
Drudge Report right now:
OBAMA TO GO FOR
GUNSBICYCLES IN 2013
'THERE WILL BE RESISTANCE'
Help me out Matt!
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lawhawk Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:03:03am |
#STD heat map has some serious surprises bestmedicaldegrees.com/std/— lawhawk (@lawhawk) December 30, 2012
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:17:33am |
Brr. The winds are blowing around in Philly and it feels cold even though it is above freezing. [Link: www.wunderground.com...]
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Gus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:21:05am |
re: #196 PhillyPretzel
As if saying it makes it so. Oy Vey.
Yeah. Who cares about the actual legislative process or even having any idea about what Obama proposes. He's coming for yer gunz and will employ tyrannical methods to attain these goals!!11ty
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Killgore Trout Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:22:18am |
Subway Pusher Erika Menendez 'Cackled' During Court Appearance
The New York Daily News reports that Menendez "broke into a maniacal fit of laughter" and "started cackling" when prosecutors formally charged her with second-degree murder as a hate crime based on her Saturday confession to police that she shoved Sen "because I hate Hindus and Muslims." "Tell your client this is not funny," Judge Gia Morris advised Menendez's attorney. Prosecutors also informed the court that Menendez has shown no remorse for the crime since she was arrested on Saturday, and that she apparently "even bragged about smoking pot and having sex with 'her man in Brooklyn' after the murderous deed."
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Killgore Trout Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:22:44am |
The court has ordered a psychological evaluation of Menendez, whose cousin described her as "bipolar" when contacted by the New York Post.
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Gus Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:24:34am |
re: #204 Killgore Trout
Subway Pusher Erika Menendez 'Cackled' During Court Appearance
Yep. Breivik was pretty whacked too during his court appearance. I guess that means that Spencer, Geller, and Fjordman weren't contributing influences.
//
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:24:55am |
re: #205 Killgore Trout
Bipolar disorder is no excuse for what she did. She deserves to get 25-to-life for her misdeed.
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Varek Raith Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:25:25am |
I’m not going to raise the debt ceiling unless we get serious about keeping the country from becoming Greece, saving Social Security and Medicare [sic]. So here’s what i would like: meaningful entitlement reform — not to turn Social Security into private accounts, not to take a voucher approach to Medicare — but, adjust the age for Social Security, CPI changes and means testing and look beyond the ten-year window. I cannot in good conscience raise the debt ceiling without addressing the long term debt problems of this country and I will not.
-Lindsay Graham
The word of the day is;
Extortion.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:26:03am |
re: #207 Dark_Falcon
Bipolar disorder is no excuse for what she did. She deserves to get 25-to-life for her misdeed.
Let the courts decide, but it does seem clear that she needs to be put away in prison or in a closed asylum for many years...
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:27:07am |
re: #2 William Barnett-Lewis
Testing posting after upgrading Xubuntu from 12.04 to 12.10.
Everything seems good...
Well, wasn't that fun? The OS just lost left clicks on the mouse till I'd force-ably rebooted twice and then found a thing to click inside, of all things, Chrome to reset the input device. That was an annoying little bug.
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Varek Raith Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:30:21am |
re: #206 Gus
Yep. Breivik was pretty whacked too during his court appearance. I guess that means that Spencer, Geller, and Fjordman weren't contributing influences.
//
Video games.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:30:55am |
re: #206 Gus
Yep. Breivik was pretty whacked too during his court appearance. I guess that means that Spencer, Geller, and Fjordman weren't contributing influences.
//
I think the key difference is that there's key evidence in Brevik's manifesto of his influences. No evidence yet in this case. Brevik surely had mental problems but he was still sane enough to hide his plan, process information, make a plan. His was a political act. This chick seems pretty far gone, we'll have to wait and see but so far it looks like her mental condition is the prevailing factor.
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Tim Nadeau Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:39:25am |
my God, how you brought back memories! As a kid my father, who worked at City Hall, would take me to Phillipe's for lunch. Then after I moved to Missouri, and would come back for a visit, I would bring my wife to Phillipe's for lunch, she fell in live with the place. Thank you.
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EmmaAnne Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:40:34am |
re: #200 lawhawk
[Embedded content]
I was kind of surprised by the AIDS map. In case anyone had doubts that it has jumped from the gay population to everyone else... San Francisco isn't even in the top three cities (though New York is).
Everything else is worst in the South, I conjecture because young people are so carefully protected from sex education and condoms.
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jaunte Sun, Dec 30, 2012 10:02:15am |
Took the red eye from SF and I am back in the office. Hope we get something done today.
— John McCain (@SenJohnMcCain) December 30, 2012
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jaunte Sun, Dec 30, 2012 10:05:32am |
“We’re hearing a lot about the country plunging back into recession and millions of people being thrown out of work,” said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky). “What we’re not hearing much about is how our Sunday is being completely and irrevocably ruined.”
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