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It’s Official: The GOP Is Pushing America Over the Fiscal Cliff

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It’s official: the Republican Party is going to push the country over the fiscal cliff: House: No Votes Tonight.

Awaiting action by the Senate, the leader of the House of Representatives have announced they will stage no votes this evening, ensuring the nation will go over the fiscal cliff for at least a day.

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146 comments

1 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:06:31pm

Fuck Boehner. Grow some courage, coward, and call out the lunatics that run your caucus.

2 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:06:56pm

Laser-like focus on the economy!

3 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:07:24pm
4 Targetpractice  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:07:31pm

Ah, the "Thelma and Louise" approach to fiscal crises.

5 iceweasel  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:08:19pm

Completely irresponsible. Unbelievable that they have the nerve to do that.

6 dragonath  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:09:09pm
That inscrutable thing is chiefly what I hate; and be the Democrat agent, or be the Democrat principal, I will wreak that hate upon him. Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I'd strike the sun if it insulted me.

-Captain Ahab John McCain

7 Randall Gross  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:10:05pm

The breitbrats are already trying to paint this as Obama scuttling the deal with his "insults". Weak minded cry babies, they haven't seen insults yet. Wait until the GOP congress critter's constituents see their first paychecks of the year decrease -- then they will see some real insults.

8 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:10:28pm

Republicans and Firebaggers are happy.

9 Kronocide  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:11:17pm

So it's Obama's fault because he insulted them.

Leadership!

This is like arguing with 12 yr olds.

10 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:11:53pm

re: #3 Lidane

It's the optics, not the outcome.

Get to the same point (tax rates) but by opposite means. One is the result of the reset and then a deal to cut the rates. The other would have been to allow certain rates to lapse but keep others.

The President understood this, and it works to his benefit too. He gets the hike he wants on the rich, and now gets the GOP to have to defend why the top tax bracket deserves a break, and now the GOP has to explain why everyone should get a tax cut but one that is conditioned on the top bracket getting its cut.

11 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:12:18pm

re: #9 Kronocide

This is like arguing with 2 yr olds.

FTFY

12 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:12:43pm

re: #7 Randall Gross

The breitbrats are already trying to paint this as Obama scuttling the deal with his "insults". Weak minded cry babies, they haven't seen insults yet. Wait until the GOP congress critter's constituents see their first paychecks of the year decrease -- then they will see some real insults.

Hopefully it will be unemployment notices for them. I really want the Democratic House committee to recruit some strong candidates to give Boehner and Cantor a scare. Those two don't deserve to be our legislature's speaker and Majority leader. They're terrible at what they do.

13 Tigger2  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:12:52pm

re: #2 Lidane

Laser-like focus on the economy!

The only thing they have had a laser focus on is stopping the President from getting anything done.

14 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:13:09pm

re: #13 Tigger2

The only thing they have had a laser focus on is stopping the President from getting anything done.

And Vaginas!

15 Interesting Times  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:13:55pm

"Congratulations House GOP! You've done damage to America we could only have dreamed of!"

Hugs and kisses,
Al-Qaeda

16 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:14:11pm

If only Obama had told them off and said they were a bunch of complainers, then he'd be just telling it how it is. Fucking Republicans. They insult middle class Americans left and right, and they can't handle when POTUS criticizes them for not doing their jobs.

17 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:15:24pm

They probably spent more time naming post offices in the 112th Congress.

18 Awea  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:15:43pm

What was that again Speaker Boehner?

House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) bristled at President Obama’s claim Sunday morning that Republicans were holding up a deal on the “fiscal cliff.”

Link

19 Tigger2  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:17:02pm

re: #17 Gus

They probably spent more time naming post offices in the 112th Congress.

And voting 500 Million times to get rid of Obamacare.

20 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:17:13pm

You know what's really pathetic is that many right wingers think Boehner's not "conservative" enough. Yeah they want more of this. Hell, let Cantor take Boehner's job and let the idiot find out he's in way over his head.

21 Cap'n Magic  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:17:33pm

Makes perfect sense as we basically voted for the same set of asshats for the Congress and Senate as neither chamber flipped.

And the best part? Both parties are guilty for this outcome as they both agreed to the conditions that allowed this potential result to actually occur.

22 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:17:52pm

re: #19 Tigger2

And voting 500 Million times to get rid of Obamacare.

Contraception hearings. Muslim threat hearings. Benghazi hearings. Fast and Furious hearings. Actual governance? Nada.

23 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:18:29pm

re: #19 Tigger2

And voting 500 Million times to get rid of Obamacare.

Yeah. They keep on doing that and expecting the Senate to pass it, and even if the Senate passes it? Do they seriously think Obama's actually going to sign it? It's so stupid. Really, I hope the people who voted the GOP House majority in 2010 are happy. Pelosi/Hoyer weren't perfect but they were a lot better at doing their jobs than Boehner/Cantor are.

24 engineer cat  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:21:02pm

re: #21 Cap'n Magic

Makes perfect sense as we basically voted for the same set of asshats for the Congress and Senate as neither chamber flipped.

And the best part? Both parties are guilty for this outcome as they both agreed to the conditions that this potential result may happen.

that's a reasonable position to take, but my analysis is that it's because too many republicans are childish morons who refuse to live in the real world

25 Tigger2  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:21:04pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

Yeah. They keep on doing that and expecting the Senate to pass it, and even if the Senate passes it? Do they seriously think Obama's actually going to sign it? It's so stupid. Really, I hope the people who voted the GOP House majority in 2010 are happy. Pelosi/Hoyer weren't perfect but they were a lot better at doing their jobs than Boehner/Cantor are.

Didn't Pelosi/Hoyer have one of the most productive congresses.

26 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:21:23pm

re: #15 Interesting Times

"Congratulations House GOP! You've done damage to America we could only have dreamed of!"

Hugs and kisses,
Al-Qaeda

Good one. Indeed, the Teahadis that compose a good-sized chunk of the GOP are more dangerous to the American republic than anyone I can think of.

Slightly OT, but I'd like to wish all of lizardom a Happy New Year ahead in 2013. The fireworks are going off all over the place here in the eastern Czech Republic, and we've got 90 minutes to go. The big show will get started around 23:55 local time.

27 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:21:42pm

Current Stock Futures:

DJIA INDEX Mar13 13,070.00 +293.00 12,757.00 13,070.00 12,757.00 16:00:34

Give it a minute here to see if it responds downward or not.

28 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:22:23pm

re: #25 Tigger2

Didn't Pelosi/Hoyer have one of the most productive congresses.

I don't know for sure. They definitely were more productive than this one. Hell I bet Hasert/Delay would have been more productive than Boehner-Cantor because Boehner/Cantor only care about what the Tea Party and like minded groups want. The rest of damned.

29 dragonath  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:22:39pm

re: #17 Gus

They probably spent more time naming post offices in the 112th Congress.

The Privatized John A. Boehner Memorial Post Office, sponsored by Heinrich Brothers Inc, distributor of fine demolition supplies and orange traffic cones.

30 dragonath  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:22:54pm

Serving Ohio.

31 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:23:00pm

+278.00

32 Interesting Times  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:23:42pm
33 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:24:30pm

So I wonder how the lizards on the right feel about the outcome?
Are they supportive of what has transpired?

34 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:25:51pm

re: #32 Interesting Times

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lolololol. That's funny.

35 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:26:47pm

Well to trend OT. What are everyone's plans for New Years? Hitting up an Irish pub tonight and hopefully some good music will be played.

36 bratwurst  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:27:14pm

re: #17 Gus

They probably spent more time naming post offices in the 112th Congress.

Most of them were named for Ronald Reagan...he NEVER compromised with the enemy Democrats! /

37 Interesting Times  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:27:24pm
38 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:27:58pm

re: #36 bratwurst

Most of them were named for Ronald Reagan...he NEVER compromised with the enemy Democrats! /

I heard he once beat up Tip O'Neill using only humor and jelly beans.

39 Tigger2  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:28:00pm

re: #37 Interesting Times

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LOL

40 dragonath  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:28:45pm

re: #37 Interesting Times

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Hell, they won't even pass the milk and cream.

41 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:29:09pm

The House GOP effectively raised taxes on people making 250K to 450K today. The reason being that the compromise was set at 450K. I doubt that any future tax cut bill brought forth later this week would include 450K and will instead be set on the traditional 250K.

42 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:29:12pm
43 Interesting Times  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:29:22pm
44 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:30:04pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

Well to trend OT. What are everyone's plans for New Years? Hitting up an Irish pub tonight and hopefully some good music will be played.

Kebab. Going to the local Turkish kebab stand across the street for a Döner kebab, 'cause nothing says Happy New Year like kebab. They're staying open late for the occasion.

45 Targetpractice  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:30:56pm

re: #41 Gus

The House GOP effectively raised taxes on people making 250K to 450K today. The reason being that the compromise was set at 450K. I doubt that any future tax cut bill brought forth later this week would include 450K and will instead be set on the traditional 250K.

Awful optimistic of you. I expect that they'll come back tomorrow, pass this dog's breakfast that's on the table, and then boast to the public about how they cut taxes.

46 Destro  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:31:27pm

With this inaction by the GOP, Republican Voodoo Economics has become Kamikaze Economics.

47 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:31:38pm

Dear GOP,

48 dragonath  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:31:41pm

re: #33 Usually refered to as anyways

So I wonder how the lizards on the right feel about the outcome?
Are they supportive of what has transpired?

If Romney was president, taxes would be 0% and everything would be free!

49 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:31:47pm

re: #44 Dr Lizardo

Kebab. Going to the local Turkish kebab stand across the street for a Döner kebab, 'cause nothing says Happy New Year like kebab. They're staying open late for the occasion.

Nice. I've had Döner kebab before. One of the best sandwiches I've ever had.

50 Targetpractice  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:31:55pm

re: #46 Destro

With this inaction by the GOP, Republican Voodoo Economics has become Kamikaze Economics.

BANZAI!

51 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:32:23pm

re: #48 dragonath

If Romney was president, taxes would be 0% and everything would be free!

and we'd dance like fairies in the meadow till the sun went down!

52 A Mom Anon  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:32:55pm

re: #44 Dr Lizardo

I am making mac and cheese... with BACON!! And we're hanging out here at home, watching movies, maybe build a fire in the fireplace. I can't remember the last time I went out for New Year's. Yes, I'm old, get off my lawn.

53 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:33:15pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

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Thank God. Will we also be shaming women who dare to use contraception too?

54 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:33:37pm

re: #45 Targetpractice

Awful optimistic of you. I expect that they'll come back tomorrow, pass this dog's breakfast that's on the table, and then boast to the public about how they cut taxes.

But tonight is the deadline. Everything is reset after midnight and the Bush tax cuts end. Any new tax cuts would require new legislation.

55 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:34:29pm

Oh, the horror.
I woke up this morning and my trusty laptop was dead. I tried CPR, but I was too late.
Now I'm stuck with using my shop system, or my tablet.
I hate typing on my tablet.

56 Targetpractice  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:34:39pm

re: #54 Gus

But tonight is the deadline. Everything is reset after midnight and the Bush tax cuts end. Any new tax cuts would require new legislation.

And having already agreed to give up the store, you believe Obama will now backtrack? Not a chance, the Beltway press would eat him alive for preventing a deal being made by backtracking on his concession.

57 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:34:44pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

Well to trend OT. What are everyone's plans for New Years? Hitting up an Irish pub tonight and hopefully some good music will be played.

My plans include opening a bottle of champagne at home and ringing in the New Year in front of the TV.

I'd go out, but my boss told last Friday that I'm being sent to CES in Vegas next week. I've been paired with the top sales guy in the company and we're hitting the trade show floor for two days. I'm saving my $$$ for the trip instead.

58 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:35:37pm

re: #55 b_sharp

Oh, the horror.
I woke up this morning and my trusty laptop was dead. I tried CPR, but I was too late.
Now I'm stuck with using my shop system, or my tablet.
I hate typing on my tablet.

Can't plug a keyboard into your tablet?

59 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:35:54pm

On a positive note, I just realized we never took our jar-o-coins into the bank this year. We traditionally have saved spare change and then used it to defray or cover the cost of Xmas.

It's like a windfall in January.

I wonder how Congress would spin that?

Austerity (additional spending for xmas) in December leads to a Prosperous (spending mistakenly forgotten money) January?

60 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:36:30pm

re: #52 A Mom Anon

I am making mac and cheese... with BACON!! And we're hanging out here at home, watching movies, maybe build a fire in the fireplace. I can't remember the last time I went out for New Year's. Yes, I'm old, get off my lawn.

I think we are going to do another puzzle.

61 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:37:28pm

re: #57 Lidane

My plans include opening a bottle of champagne at home and ringing in the New Year in front of the TV.

I'd go out, but my boss told last Friday that I'm being sent to CES in Vegas next week. I've been paired with the top sales guy in the company and we're hitting the trade show floor for two days. I'm saving my $$$ for the trip instead.

Just guessing here but 2012 seemed like a good year for you, best of luck in 2013, it seems your efforts have been rewarded.

62 blueraven  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:37:32pm

re: #56 Targetpractice

And having already agreed to give up the store, you believe Obama will now backtrack? Not a chance, the Beltway press would eat him alive for preventing a deal being made by backtracking on his concession.

What store did he give up? You are the one, along with the republicans ironically, that keep insisting this is all about deficit reduction. It is not. That is a GOP talking point.
It is about not imposing austere measures right now.

63 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:37:53pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

Nice. I've had Döner kebab before. One of the best sandwiches I've ever had.

Oh, indeed. I lived for awhile in Berlin, in the Kreuzberg District, which has a good-sized Turkish immigrant population, as well as being the party central of Berlin. Döner kebab stands on every street corner! Goes great with a good beer.

64 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:38:27pm

Cloves of Garlic on Kebabs are the best part!

65 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:38:49pm

re: #56 Targetpractice

And having already agreed to give up the store, you believe Obama will now backtrack? Not a chance, the Beltway press would eat him alive for preventing a deal being made by backtracking on his concession.

I think it's fair game. The 450K was part of this deal. It can easily be taken off the table for new tax cuts. Why would Republicans object to tax cuts for those making 250K and less?

66 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:38:53pm

re: #57 Lidane

My plans include opening a bottle of champagne at home and ringing in the New Year in front of the TV.

I'd go out, but my boss told last Friday that I'm being sent to CES in Vegas next week. I've been paired with the top sales guy in the company and we're hitting the trade show floor for two days. I'm saving my $$$ for the trip instead.

Nice that sounds like a blast.

67 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:39:13pm

re: #59 Holidays are Family Fun Time

On a positive note, I just realized we never took our jar-o-coins into the bank this year. We traditionally have saved spare change and then used it to defray or cover the cost of Xmas.

It's like a windfall in January.

I wonder how Congress would spin that?

Austerity (additional spending for xmas) in December leads to a Prosperous (spending mistakenly forgotten money) January?

My guess is if the right had their way they would take it off you and give it to someone in the top 1%.

68 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:39:57pm

re: #52 A Mom Anon

I am making mac and cheese... with BACON!! And we're hanging out here at home, watching movies, maybe build a fire in the fireplace. I can't remember the last time I went out for New Year's. Yes, I'm old, get off my lawn.

Mac&Cheese and bacon sounds mighty interesting, I must admit. I was thinking of watching "Cloud Atlas", but not tonight. I'm in the mood for some light entertainment, so it's "Black Caesar" to ring in the New Year!

69 Targetpractice  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:40:39pm

re: #65 Gus

I think it's fair game. The 450K was part of this deal. It can easily be taken off the table for new tax cuts. Why would Republicans object to tax cuts for those making 250K and less?

Apparently according to Josh Marshall, there's even some Senate Democrats who are resistant to setting the cut-off at $250K.

70 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:41:13pm

re: #58 Usually refered to as anyways

Can't plug a keyboard into your tablet?

Yes, but I would have to order one specifically for this brand. I don't have a Bluetooth keyboard to test with it. It has no USB port.

71 Cap'n Magic  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:41:22pm

re: #24 engineer cat

I would agree with that, were it not for the Tea Party caucus, who, despite some high-profile Congressional losses, still wield tremendous clout in the GOP.

72 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:42:02pm

re: #69 Targetpractice

Apparently according to Josh Marshall, there's even some Senate Democrats who are resistant to setting the cut-off at $250K.

Yes. But Josh was freaking out about the 450K compromise himself.

73 jhrhv  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:42:52pm

re: #55 b_sharp

Sucks but on the bright side some of the new hardware is cool. Ultrabook.

74 Targetpractice  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:43:03pm

re: #72 Gus

Yes. But Josh was freaking out about the 450K compromise himself.

And why would he. With tax rates off the table permanently, what does Obama have to bargain with when the GOP stages a debt limit revolt in February?

75 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:43:27pm
76 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:43:40pm

Has Obdicut been around. I seem to have missed him the past few days.

77 Targetpractice  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:44:07pm

re: #75 Gus

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Ah shit.

78 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:44:43pm

re: #75 Gus

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Yeah and the nutjobs thought she was faking it. Morbid fuckers. Hope she gets well. I wouldn't be surprised if she ultimately decides not to run for president and if it's health related, I hope so for her sake.

79 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:45:08pm

re: #75 Gus

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Oh shit. I'm no doctor, and have only a modest layman's knowledge of medicine, but that sure as hell is not good.

80 Cap'n Magic  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:45:09pm

re: #57 Lidane

As long as you stay away from the casino and the escorts, Lost Wages can be a fun place.

81 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:45:11pm

re: #61 Usually refered to as anyways

Just guessing here but 2012 seemed like a good year for you, best of luck in 2013, it seems your efforts have been rewarded.

It had its ups and downs.

The ups included finishing grad school and getting a new job. I like what I do and who I work with and things are starting to come together in a way that makes sense to me. I've got an opportunity in the planning stages right now that would be huge if I land it. And the CES thing is flattering. I didn't expect them to go with it when I suggested that someone should go, but they agreed and I'm one of the two people being sent.

The downs, OTOH, included looking for that new job and all the anxiety about money that goes with it. It took me months of searching, including having to move three times in five months -- first at the end of July because my lease ran out and I needed a place to live while I found a job, then to a temporary place in October when I started my job, then three weeks ago when I found a permanent address. I also have to figure out money and how to pay back the student loans and bills that piled up this past year. Oy.

Overall, though, not a bad year. I think 2013 is going to be great year.

82 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:45:43pm

re: #78 HappyWarrior

Yeah and the nutjobs thought she was faking it. Morbid fuckers. Hope she gets well. I wouldn't be surprised if she ultimately decides not to run for president and if it's health related, I hope so for her sake.

Blood clots in the brain can be dealt with. Seems like hers is in a easier place to monitor and deal with.

83 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:45:47pm

re: #70 b_sharp

Yes, but I would have to order one specifically for this brand.

Gawd that sucks, its not like USB and MicroUSB ain't been a standard long enough.

I hate propriety shit.

I bought a 10" Lenovo tablet recently, it was half the price of an Ipad, it has 3g, GPS, USB, MicroUSB and an SD slot, great value.

Yes, its not as pretty as an Ipad, but very handy for my work.

84 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:46:53pm

re: #82 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Blood clots in the brain can be dealt with. Seems like hers is in a easier place to monitor and deal with.

Hope so. She's a tough lady. It's no wonder why she's admired globally.

85 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:47:03pm

re: #75 Gus

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I was afraid that might be the case.

86 Interesting Times  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:47:58pm

re: #83 Usually refered to as anyways

I bought a 10" Lenovo tablet recently, it was half the price of an Ipad, it has 3g, GPS, USB, MicroUSB and an SD slot, great value.

Sounds like a newer version of what I have (K1 IdeaPad). Mine doesn't have USB, but it was the least expensive 32gb tablet around when I bought it early last year.

87 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:48:05pm

re: #80 Cap'n Magic

As long as you stay away from the casino and the escorts, Lost Wages can be a fun place.

I'm not a gambler. It's wasted money, IMO. And the escorts aren't an issue. Haha.

I figure I'll indulge in good food while I'm there. A friend of mine from grad school will be there at the same time, so we're going to try and have dinner together. If I get a chance, I might go see a show too.

88 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:49:27pm

re: #84 HappyWarrior

Hope so. She's a tough lady. It's no wonder why she's admired globally.

She is probably on blood thinners and tons of monitoring equipment. She is also probably very unhappy and wanting to get back to work.

I know someone who had a blod clot in the brain in the 80's and she is fine. She was in the hospital for a long time, but hasn't had any other problems. I hope the same will be true for Hillary.

89 Interesting Times  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:50:12pm
90 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:50:20pm
91 Cap'n Magic  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:50:28pm

re: #54 Gus

Since the House had the last clear chance to go either up or down, it is that part of the government that can now be tagged as being the responsible entity for the cascade effects their inaction brings.

Or, to put it in a not-so-gracious vein, they're gutless pussies.

92 makeitstop  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:51:19pm

re: #87 Lidane

I'm not a gambler. It's wasted money, IMO. And the escorts aren't an issue. Haha.

I figure I'll indulge in good food while I'm there. A friend of mine from grad school will be there at the same time, so we're going to try and have dinner together. If I get a chance, I might go see a show too.

A few friends of mine are out there playing in the band for 'Rock Of Ages.' I don't get the feeling that Hair Metal is your thing, but I can guarantee it'll be well-played - my buds are all monster players.

93 jhrhv  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:51:31pm

I thought the last few time I saw HRC on TV she didn't look well. I'm sure she is getting top notch care.

Hoping for a speedy recovery.

94 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:52:28pm

re: #81 Lidane

It had its ups and downs.

Overall, though, not a bad year. I think 2013 is going to be great year.

House moving, is there anything worse?
I'm happy for you, enjoying your work is a blessing.

Not sure how student loans are set up in the states but here in Australia, you get a government load for tertiary education at very low interest, and are not required to pay it back until you are earning over x dollars per annum.

I'm thinking its about 35 grand a year.

May 2013 be your best year yet!

95 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:52:52pm

re: #86 Interesting Times

Sounds like a newer version of what I have (K1 IdeaPad). Mine doesn't have USB, but it was the least expensive 32gb tablet around when I bought it early last year.

Mine is an Asus TF101.

96 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:53:02pm
97 jhrhv  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:53:08pm

The name Obama care has stuck.

It would be awesome if the new tax cuts get called the Obama era tax cuts. It will drive the GOP bonkers or is that more bonkers.

98 blueraven  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:54:09pm

All my best to Secretary Clinton.

And to the assholes who made jokes about this...just fuck you all. Krauthammer, Bolton and most of Fox news. Including Bill O'Reilly and Laura Ingraham, two so called Christians, who laughingly referred to this as Hillary's "immaculate concussion". They really had a good laugh and thought that was so very clever.

99 palomino  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:54:21pm

Might have been a smart political move for Obama to say a deal is "within sight", even if that's not totally true. Makes the House GOP look even more obstructionist, as they've been the main impediment to compromise all along.

Not surprising that Boehner can't (or won't) hold a vote. If Plan B failed (at 1 million), why would House Repubs go along with a deal at 400-450k?

Next question is whether House GOP is so extreme it will vote against tax cuts for 98% of Americans since the 2% of Americans they really care about won't be getting a cut.

100 Cap'n Magic  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:55:23pm

re: #87 Lidane

The shows there are quite a spectacle. Cirque du Solei acts seems to play at every major hotel.

I used to cover CES when they held their summer shows back in the 80s in Chicago. Good times.

101 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:55:55pm

re: #92 makeitstop

A few friends of mine are out there playing in the band for 'Rock Of Ages.' I don't get the feeling that Hair Metal is your thing, but I can guarantee it'll be well-played - my buds are all monster players.

LOL! Hair metal was my thing in high school in the 80's. That and the new wave and alternative bands I started listening to in junior high.

I'm guessing by the name they're a Def Leppard tribute band. That might be interesting. If I have time I might give that a go, depending on what happens once I'm there.

102 The Mountain That Blogs  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:56:00pm

re: #96 Gus

This sounds more like a subdural than an epidural. Epidural is usually associated with big trauma--Natasha Richardson died of one after a ski accident, and MLB pitcher Brandon McCarthy needed surgery for one earlier this year after he took a batted ball to the head.

103 Kronocide  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:57:10pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

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Mark Knoller is in on the Benghazi coverup. He'll need to testify at the next hearing.

104 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:57:15pm

re: #86 Interesting Times

Sounds like a newer version of what I have (K1 IdeaPad). Mine doesn't have USB, but it was the least expensive 32gb tablet around when I bought it early last year.

I don't know if mine has a name, it only has 16gb internal mem, but I can put 64gb SD cards in it, and also use USB sticks for storage.

It also has front and rear cameras, and a micro hdmi port.

Its a great little tablet, if only I could get it back off the wife.

105 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:58:00pm

re: #99 palomino

Might have been a smart political move for Obama to say a deal is "within sight", even if that's not totally true. Makes the House GOP look even more obstructionist, as they've been the main impediment to compromise all along.

Not surprising that Boehner can't (or won't) hold a vote. If Plan B failed (at 1 million), why would House Repubs go along with a deal at 400-450k?

Next question is whether House GOP is so extreme it will vote against tax cuts for 98% of Americans since the 2% of Americans they really care about won't be getting a cut.

In answer to your third question, I'd be willing to say, yes. Yes they really are that extreme.

106 Tigger2  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:58:51pm

re: #99 palomino

Might have been a smart political move for Obama to say a deal is "within sight", even if that's not totally true. Makes the House GOP look even more obstructionist, as they've been the main impediment to compromise all along.

Not surprising that Boehner can't (or won't) hold a vote. If Plan B failed (at 1 million), why would House Repubs go along with a deal at 400-450k?

Next question is whether House GOP is so extreme it will vote against tax cuts for 98% of Americans since the 2% of Americans they really care about won't be getting a cut.

I believe that would be the end of the Republican Party if they did that, their base wouldn't even put up with that.

107 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:59:05pm

re: #87 Lidane

I'm not a gambler. It's wasted money, IMO. And the escorts aren't an issue. Haha.

I figure I'll indulge in good food while I'm there. A friend of mine from grad school will be there at the same time, so we're going to try and have dinner together. If I get a chance, I might go see a show too.

I had my wedding reception at Maggiano's in Vegas, they looked after us well and the food was superb.

108 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:59:52pm

re: #102 The Mountain That Blogs

This sounds more like a subdural than an epidural. Epidural is usually associated with big trauma--Natasha Richardson died of one after a ski accident, and MLB pitcher Brandon McCarthy needed surgery for one earlier this year after he took a batted ball to the head.

I was reading about both before but still haven't seen anything spelled out WRT to Clinton.

109 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:00:02pm

re: #104 Usually refered to as anyways

I don't know if mine has a name, it only has 16gb internal mem, but I can put 64gb SD cards in it, and also use USB sticks for storage.

It also has front and rear cameras, and a micro hdmi port.

Its a great little tablet, if only I could get it back off the wife.

Mine is 32gb and holds a 32gb microSD and has a microHDMI but no USB

110 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:00:52pm

Statement:

"In the course of a routine follow-up MRI on Sunday, the scan revealed that a right transverse sinus venous thrombosis had formed. This is a clot in the vein that is situated in the space between the brain and the skull behind the right ear. It did not result in a stroke, or neurological damage. To help dissolve this clot, her medical team began treating the Secretary with blood thinners. She will be released once the medication dose has been established. In all other aspects of her recovery, the Secretary is making excellent progress and we are confident she will make a full recovery. She is in good spirits, engaging with her doctors, her family, and her staff."

- Dr. Lisa Bardack, Mt. Kisco Medical Group, and Dr. Gigi El-Bayoumi, George Washington University

111 Renaissance_Man  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:03:12pm

re: #110 Gus

Statement:

Subdural sinus clots are not really as scary as they sound. Lots of older people walk around with them probably never knowing they have them.

112 jhrhv  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:03:50pm

re: #87 Lidane

I was there in May. Saw Penn and Teller. Great show and as I recall not very expensive. Also saw Andrew Dice Clay. Again not very expensive and hilarious if you're into that kind of humor.

113 A Mom Anon  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:04:00pm

re: #110 Gus

I hope she continues to improve. There was a time I wasn't overly fond of Hillary, but I've grown to like her. I wish I was half the badass she is.

114 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:04:59pm

re: #113 A Mom Anon

I hope she continues to improve. There was a time I wasn't overly fond of Hillary, but I've grown to like her. I wish I was half the badass she is.

Same. I really didn't like the way she ran her campaign against Obama but she's been a great Sec of State.

115 makeitstop  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:05:16pm

re: #101 Lidane

LOL! Hair metal was my thing in high school in the 80's. That and the new wave and alternative bands I started listening to in junior high.

I'm guessing by the name they're a Def Leppard tribute band. That might be interesting. If I have time I might give that a go, depending on what happens once I'm there.

No, the Vegas cast of the Broadway show 'Rock Of Ages,' which became the Tom Cruise movie. The lead guitarist and bass player are both friends of mine from playing in the live karaoke band I play with in NYC - the guitarist has been with the ROA road show for three years, and the bass player did both the Broadway run and road show of 'American Idiot.' Vegas has assembled a kickass band for that show - I'm sure you'd enjoy it.

116 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:05:46pm

re: #109 b_sharp

Mine is 32gb and holds a 32gb microSD and has a microHDMI but no USB

My Lenovo's model number is 18382GM
Its came with ICS 4.0.x, very happy with it, though the new Lenovo Tablet its shipped with Windows 8, you know the one, its the one that looks like AOL circa 1995.

117 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:06:15pm

re: #4 Targetpractice

Ah, the "Thelma and Louise" approach to fiscal crises.

It meshes well, culturally, with the massacre-as-economic-stimulus gun buying frenzy that happens every time some guy acts out his manifesto.

118 A Mom Anon  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:07:41pm

re: #115 makeitstop

We saw the movie a couple weeks ago. If you were into Hair Metal in the 80's, it's pretty funny/kinda campy and fun. My son said it was like Glee with more hair and guitars,lol.

119 jaunte  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:08:25pm

Hillary's "health team secrecy" is the conspiracy of the hour.

120 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:11:48pm

re: #119 jaunte

Hillary's "health team secrecy" is the conspiracy of the hour.

[Embedded content]

He's such a bozo.

121 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:12:16pm

Have you guys seen this map of Tea Party Caucus members by state that's on their Wikipedia page? WTF, Texas??

Speaking of...

// Did I get the right thread this time?

122 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:12:53pm

re: #119 jaunte

Hillary's "health team secrecy" is the conspiracy of the hour.

[Embedded content]

From yesterday.

123 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:13:09pm

re: #116 Usually refered to as anyways

My Lenovo's model number is 18382GM
Its came with ICS 4.0.x, very happy with it, though the new Lenovo Tablet its shipped with Windows 8, you know the one, its the one that looks like AOL circa 1995.

Yah, I have ics too. Win 8 looks to suck.

124 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:14:36pm

"Republicans have had a problem for 20 years with that, moving from advocacy to governance," says Lewis Gould, a historian of the GOP. "They have some questions about whether they're willing to make the compromises, the choices and accept the imperfect nature of the government, or are they always to want to have the perfection of advocacy."

125 jaunte  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:14:45pm

re: #121 CuriousLurker

Texas Sens Kay Bailey Hutchison and John Cornyn got a recent rating of 70%-80% positive from the John Birch society, and they're supposedly moderates.

126 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:15:50pm

re: #123 b_sharp

Yah, I have ics too. Win 8 looks to suck.

Windows 8 vs AOL

127 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:17:35pm

re: #126 Usually refered to as anyways

Windows 8 vs AOL

Charles, looks like jpeg is opening in a new window, not a popup.

128 dragonath  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:18:56pm

re: #122 Gus

From yesterday.

[Embedded content]

I think Buzzfeed is still bitter about this:

Hillary Clinton Aide Tells Reporter To “Fuck Off” And “Have A Good Life”

Ah, our quality media.

129 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:19:36pm

re: #112 jhrhv

I was there in May. Saw Penn and Teller. Great show and as I recall not very expensive. Also saw Andrew Dice Clay. Again not very expensive and hilarious if you're into that kind of humor.

Penn & Teller are awesome. I saw them here in Austin a while back. The tickets were my birthday present to myself that year. They put on a great show.

Not into Dice Clay, but I'd be hip to seeing P & T again.

130 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:21:05pm

re: #127 Usually refered to as anyways

Charles, looks like jpeg is opening in a new window, not a popup.

Add rel="shadowboxba94ffa9" to the end of the opening anchor tag, like this:

<a href="http: //cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com/5192012043239windows8vsaol.jpeg" rel="shadowbox">

131 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:21:25pm

re: #115 makeitstop

No, the Vegas cast of the Broadway show 'Rock Of Ages,' which became the Tom Cruise movie.

Duh. I should have known that. *facepalm*

The lead guitarist and bass player are both friends of mine from playing in the live karaoke band I play with in NYC - the guitarist has been with the ROA road show for three years, and the bass player did both the Broadway run and road show of 'American Idiot.' Vegas has assembled a kickass band for that show - I'm sure you'd enjoy it.

Sounds cool. I'll look into it.

132 Interesting Times  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:22:03pm
133 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:22:36pm

re: #119 jaunte

Hillary's "health team secrecy" is the conspiracy of the hour.

[Embedded content]

134 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:23:47pm

Yep, a new puzzle has appeared.

Holiday fun Time.

135 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:25:45pm

re: #130 CuriousLurker

Add rel="shadowboxc67d85dd" to the end of the opening anchor tag, like this:

<a href="http: //cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com/5192012043239windows8vsaol.jpeg" rel="shadowbox">

Thanks CL, I could do that but Charles may want to add it.

All the best for you and yours for 2013

136 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:26:39pm

re: #135 Usually refered to as anyways

All the best for you and yours for 2013

Same to you! ;)

137 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:28:25pm

re: #136 CuriousLurker

The same here for 2013. :)

138 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:28:48pm

re: #136 CuriousLurker

Same to you! ;)

We are 9 hours into 2013, come on over the waters fine.

139 wrenchwench  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:32:18pm

re: #121 CuriousLurker

Have you guys seen this map of Tea Party Caucus members by state that's on their Wikipedia page? WTF, Texas??

Speaking of...

[Embedded content]

// Did I get the right thread this time?

Thanks for both of those, but especially the music. I had to pause what I had on and crank it up. And, you know, stand up and pretend to dance. :) I might even play it again!

140 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:33:07pm

re: #137 PhillyPretzel

Thanks! Here, have an end-of-the-year-Thelma-and-Louise-off-the-cliff hug: {{{PhillyPretzel}}}

141 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:34:26pm

re: #139 wrenchwench

Thanks for both of those, but especially the music. I had to pause what I had on and crank it up. And, you know, stand up and pretend to dance. :) I might even play it again!

I already listened to it like 5 times. Danced in my chair and sang along too. *sheepish grin*

142 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 3:27:46pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

Well to trend OT. What are everyone's plans for New Years? Hitting up an Irish pub tonight and hopefully some good music will be played.

Not going out and just finished up dinner. Pan-seared salmon with sesame crust, and a quinona pilaf with pine nuts and basil. Both came out edible and tasty, but not spectacular.

Will probably have a glass or two of wine during the evening.

143 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 3:32:25pm

re: #91 Cap'n Magic

Since the House had the last clear chance to go either up or down, it is that part of the government that can now be tagged as being the responsible entity for the cascade effects their inaction brings.

Or, to put it in a not-so-gracious vein, they're gutless pussies.

What's with the insulting of comparing Congress critters to women? Call them gutless, that's enough.

144 dragonfire1981  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 3:45:24pm

re: #9 Kronocide

So it's Obama's fault because he insulted them.

Leadership!

This is like arguing with 12 yr olds.

I disagree. 12 year olds are more rational.

145 Skip Intro  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 4:23:13pm

re: #48 dragonath

If Romney was president, taxes would be 0% and everything would be free!

Only if you make over a million dollars a year. For everyone else, taxes would be 35% and everything would cost twice what it does now. And don't even think about trying to collect your SS and Medicare, you worthless parasites.

146 Destro  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 8:32:08pm

re: #145 Skip Intro

Only if you make over a million dollars a year. For everyone else, taxes would be 35% and everything would cost twice what it does now. And don't even think about trying to collect your SS and Medicare, you worthless parasites.

/// Poor people should pay taxes. It will motivate them to become rich so as not to pay taxes. ///


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