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After Obsessively Attacking Obama for Years, #Breitbart.com Decides He’s “Irrelevant”

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For years, breitbart.com editor Joel Pollak has been attacking absolutely everything Barack Obama does, writing hundreds of thousands of words, spending every waking minute watching videos and reading transcripts, looking for any little phrase he can twist and distort, poring over photographs looking for the least flattering ones, in a way that can only be described as manic and obsessive.

But today he informs us that … wait for it … Obama is irrelevant!

I swear, these people are just not right in the head: KING OBAMA THE IRRELEVANT!

The most absurd sentences from this ridiculous article:

The “fiscal cliff” fiasco has made it clear that President Barack Obama is entirely irrelevant to the everyday task of governing.

[…]

He is not interested in it, and he is not good at it.

[…]

But he does nothing positive for the country.

[…]

The deal that took shape on Capitol Hill over the past few days and weeks happened almost without President Obama’s involvement—and despite his hyper-partisan press conference yesterday, which nearly poisoned the entire process.

[…]

Vice President Joe Biden—an incompetent poseur—is essentially running the country.

[…]

It is almost impossible to imagine Obama doing anything else except making speeches.

[…]

Even as a symbol, Obama is failing.

[…]

People only like him when they can forget the reality of who he is and what he has done.

[…]

He is King Obama the Irrelevant.

[…]

In his own imagination, he wishes he had monarchical powers.

This is one of the all-time classics of hilarious right wing butthurt, and it’s self-refuting — you can take it to the bank that Pollak will be right back in manic attack mode before the day is over. And by the way, the name “Obama” appears at least 15 times on the front page of breitbart.com today, proving beyond a doubt how irrelevant he is to the Breitbart business model.

P.S. The comments from the Breitbart audience for Pollak’s stupid article are just as vicious and deranged as always.

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486 comments

1 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 1:29:15pm

breitbart being the last word in irrelevance?

2 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 1:29:56pm

Obama being so irrelevant that the Breitbartians spend virtually every waking moment attacking him.

3 Jimmah  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 1:31:40pm

Next week on Breitbart:

OBAMA JUST BAD DREAM LIKE BOBBY EWING IN DALLAS

4 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 1:32:39pm

re: #3 Jimmah

Next week on Breitbart:

OBAMA JUST BAD DREAM LIKE BOBBY EWING IN DALLAS

So we wake up tomorrow and it's 2009 and we have President-elect Clinton?

5 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 1:35:20pm

Man, that Joel Pollak. He really put Obama in his place.

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6 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 1:37:57pm

The CBO scoring is based on the law as in effect. In other words, it's scored based not on comparing the proposed law versus the 2001/2003/2009 tax law, but on the pre-2001 rates which resumed earlier today. Anything that increases spending or reduces revenue compared to the pre-2001 rates results in spending/debt, even if it compares favorably to the 2001/2003/2009 tax law.

The GOP is now using this scoring (comparing the pre-2001 to fiscal cliff deal) as a justification for more cuts? Hypocrisy much?

7 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 1:38:10pm

This line is just a major hoot:

In his own imagination, he wishes he had monarchical powers.

We're doomed! Pollak can READ MINDS!

8 jaunte  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 1:38:13pm

Is Breitbart.com about anything else but Obama?

9 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 1:38:54pm

re: #8 jaunte

Is Breitbart.com about anything else but Obama?

It's about, sports!

10 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 1:39:08pm

re: #6 lawhawk

The CBO scoring is based on the law as in effect. In other words, it's scored based not on comparing the proposed law versus the 2001/2003/2009 tax law, but on the pre-2001 rates which resumed earlier today. Anything that increases spending or reduces revenue compared to the pre-2001 rates results in spending/debt, even if it compares favorably to the 2001/2003/2009 tax law.

The GOP is now using this scoring (comparing the pre-2001 to fiscal cliff deal) as a justification for more cuts? Hypocrisy much?

Apparently tax cuts suddenly cost something when it comes to finding justification to further gut the social safety net.

11 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 1:42:01pm

Pollak and the rest of the Breitbartians think Obama's going to institute a monarchy, govern by diktat, and otherwise take away the guns and impose socialism and communism all at once.

Oh, but he's irrelevant because he's managed to turn the GOP against itself (House and Senate GOP factions can't get a deal done they'd live with), and otherwise changed the conversation on taxes and entitlements.

12 sauceruney  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 1:44:17pm

So the next four years will be spent talking about how irrelevant he is? Like he's just a bad dream that's going away when they wake up into the next Presidency?

13 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 1:48:31pm

DERP

— Anthoney Obasi (@TonyO93) January 1, 2013

Notice the DERP, when confronted by a normal person, can't give any examples.

14 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 1:50:37pm

Well, it looks like Boehner's got two choices: Break the Hastert Rule to bring the bill to the floor and very likely end his speakership or agree to allowing amendments to the bill to go to the floor without any guarantee that even those amendments have enough votes, but with the assurance that if they do and the bill goes back to the Senate, it'll be DOA.

15 Stanghazi  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 1:52:30pm

Sister Sarah said the same thing when asked about The President being Time's Person of the Year.

they do not know their own language.

16 bratwurst  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 1:55:41pm

re: #13 Vicious Babushka

DERP

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Notice the DERP, when confronted by a normal person, can't give any examples.

THAT is a trial lawyer? (per her Twitter profile!)

Image: thescream.jpg

17 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 1:57:11pm

re: #13 Vicious Babushka

DERP

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Notice the DERP, when confronted by a normal person, can't give any examples.

What exactly is a "Patriot" (capital P)? Do I want to know?

18 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 1:57:41pm

Another awesomely derpy line:

People only like him when they can forget the reality of who he is and what he has done.

Is he saying that people deliberately forget who Obama is and what he's done, in order to like him? Why the fuck would people do that? How strange is your head that you'd think this makes any kind of fucking sense at all?

How can anybody write a sentence like this without breaking down in tears at their own massive failure?

19 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 1:59:29pm

If at first you can't succeed, try another caucus:

20 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:00:34pm

re: #19 lawhawk

If at first you can't succeed, try another caucus:

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What's Boehner gonna threaten them with this time? Taking away their parking spaces?

21 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:01:04pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

Or, it's a not so subtle hint at birtherism. /wish I'd be saying it's sarcasm, but given the ranks of birthers over there...

22 jaunte  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:02:06pm

re: #16 bratwurst

I am a trial lawyer, extraordinare!

She provides her own warning label.

23 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:02:13pm

Thing is that if there's a floor vote, this passes. It's all about the caucus and GOP leaders trying to spin things in their favor best they can.

24 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:03:14pm

re: #23 lawhawk

Thing is that if there's a floor vote, this passes. It's all about the caucus and GOP leaders trying to spin things in their favor best they can.

At it stands right now, Boehner either has to get a majority of his own caucus on board with passing this bill or else he's left choosing between arsenic and cyanide.

25 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:04:37pm
26 Mattand  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:05:24pm

re: #24 Targetpractice

At it stands right now, Boehner either has to get a majority of his own caucus on board with passing this bill or else he's left choosing between arsenic and cyanide.

Are there any Republicans who are going to vote for this, regardless of whether they hold their noses or not?

27 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:06:45pm

re: #26 Mattand

Are there any Republicans who are going to vote for this, regardless of whether they hold their noses or not?

That's the $64,000 question right now. Obviously not enough, because if Boehner had the votes, he'd have put the bill on the floor by now.

28 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:07:16pm

re: #19 lawhawk

If at first you can't succeed, try another caucus:

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I gave up. Stopped watching C-Span.

29 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:07:21pm

re: #16 bratwurst

THAT is a trial lawyer? (per her Twitter profile!)

Image: thescream.jpg

In the same league as Orly Taitz I suppose.

30 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:09:00pm

re: #16 bratwurst

THAT is a trial lawyer? (per her Twitter profile!)

Image: thescream.jpg

I'm left to wonder if her tweets could be entered in evidence when filing an appeal based on ineffectual council? I pity those she may have defended...

31 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:09:27pm

I want Chinese food for New Year's and since there's no kosher Chinese restaurant where I live, I have to make it myself.

Sesame Chicken
Spring Rolls
Stir-fried veggies (mushrooms, broccoli, water chestnuts, red pepper)

32 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:10:05pm

I'm at the point where I can hardly stand to watch media coverage of these kinds of things, because every single channel seems to think it's vital to continue talking and jabbering and saying anything at all with not a single second of silence. It just turns into a wall of noise for me.

33 engineer cat  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:10:48pm

any estimates on how much new revenue per year would be brought in by the tax increases in the deal?

34 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:11:20pm

re: #31 Vicious Babushka

Sounds delish. I'll be over in an hour. I'll bring the wine. :)

35 blueraven  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:11:42pm

re: #23 lawhawk

Thing is that if there's a floor vote, this passes. It's all about the caucus and GOP leaders trying to spin things in their favor best they can.

I'm not so sure about that. Steve LaTourette says there are not enough republican votes to pass it, even if all the dems are on board, which I doubt.

36 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:13:13pm

re: #33 engineer cat

Linky

The nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation estimates that the entire package will increase the deficit by $3.9 trillion over 10 years, with a $280 billion increase in 2013 alone. That’s because the JCT is comparing the deal to what would happen if the entire fiscal cliff were allowed to take effect — about $4.5 trillion in deficit reduction over 10 years, according to the Congressional Budget Office. It looks worse if you include interest on the debt and the $30 billion in federal unemployment insurance, which is not offset.

The numbers look better if you compare the deal to a world in which we had kept the tax code the way it was in 2012: Then, the package raises more than $600 billion in additional revenue (and cuts interest payments by about $50 billion). But it comes from a far smaller portion of taxpayers than Obama had been hoping for. Letting the Bush tax cuts expire at the $450,000 family/$400,000 income threshold affects just 0.7 percent of all taxpayers, or a little over 1 million Americans, according to Tax Policy Center’s latest analysis.

37 Political Atheist  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:15:46pm

re: #31 Vicious Babushka
You have a good wok? I had one but my stove just did not make enough heat.
We just finished brunch-Tried eggs Benedict with crepes. Can't remember ever making them before. Came out just a bit bland. But really rich.

38 jaunte  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:15:56pm
39 engineer cat  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:17:00pm

re: #36 lawhawk

thx!

can i assume that the $600 bil figure is over 10 yrs like the estimates in the first pp?

40 aagcobb  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:17:48pm

Cantor now opposes the bill, which I would assume mean its dead. The Tea Party once again snatches defeat from the jaws of victory. Now having demonstrated the utter unreasonableness of the Tea Party, the President should refuse to sign any deal unless it extends unemployment, the payroll tax holiday, and resolves the the debt limit, and allow the GOP to stew in the mess its made for itself.

41 Political Atheist  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:18:11pm

re: #40 aagcobb

So according to Debbie Wassermann Schultz (CNN) the bill was supposed to be a straight up or down vote in the House. That was the deal. The GOP can't keep it's own word for a whole 12 hours. Grrr. Really pissed this morning at this mess.

42 SpaceJesus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:18:19pm

Woman pushes man in front of train because she thinks he's Muslim

Freep responds

If you’re gonna do it, do it. But jeez, don’t talk about it stupid woman!

15 posted on Saturday, December 29, 2012 6:25:56 PM by HeartlandOfAmerica

43 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:21:47pm

Now they're saying a vote could happen as late as midnight.

44 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:23:04pm

re: #13 Vicious Babushka

DERP

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Notice the DERP, when confronted by a normal person, can't give any examples.

re: #13 Vicious Babushka

DERP

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Notice the DERP, when confronted by a normal person, can't give any examples.

She isn't getting anywhere in our "Obama" phone discussion either, somehow Obama made the Republican majority state legislature of Florida approve the SafeLink program by Tracfone. At least that is what she is trying to make people believe...

45 jaunte  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:24:17pm

There's at least one guy in DC who couldn't care less about the fiscal cliff negotiations:

46 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:24:34pm

re: #39 engineer cat

Yeah, both are referring to the 10 year timeframe that the JCT or CBO normally do.

When you look at the revenues resulting from the Senate deal, it ends up generating more revenue than the 2001/2003/2009 tax law, but a whole lot less than if the rates/rules reverted to the pre-2001 levels. The GOP is now trying to spin the Senate deal as being bad because it results in a deficit as compared to the pre-2001 tax law, which is hilarious. All of a sudden, the GOP is concerned with cost?

Thing is that most of the 2001/2003/2009 cuts are being made permanent in this deal - all except on those in the top tax bracket, along with the cap gains and deductions changes.

47 dragonfire1981  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:40:12pm

The People's House? Really? REALLY?!

48 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:40:34pm

Probably already been asked but will Pollak stop attacking Obama? After all he's irrelevant. So that should stop the petty bs attacks on him, right? Nah.

49 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:41:19pm

Monkey Taliban

50 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:41:46pm

Oh yes, and by the way -- that "OWS terrorist" the morning wingnut wave was yelling about yesterday? He had no apparent connection to OWS at all. He and his girlfriend were just common criminals - both of them had records.

The New York Post totally pulled that accusation out of its right wing ass.

51 dragonfire1981  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:44:29pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

Oh yes, and by the way -- that "OWS terrorist" the morning wingnut wave was yelling about yesterday? He had no apparent connection to OWS at all. He and his girlfriend were just common criminals - both of them had records.

The New York Post totally pulled that accusation out of its right wing ass.

Didn't you hear Charles? EVERY dangerous criminal is OWS connected. Every. Last. One.

52 makeitstop  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:44:46pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

Oh yes, and by the way -- that "OWS terrorist" the morning wingnut wave was yelling about yesterday? He had no apparent connection to OWS at all. He and his girlfriend were just common criminals - both of them had records.

The New York Post totally pulled that accusation out of its right wing ass.

And I noticed how quickly those making that charge stepped forth to admit they were wrong.
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53 makeitstop  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:46:48pm
54 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:47:39pm

re: #53 makeitstop

Why do I not believe a single syllable of this?

Because he was saying it while digging a dagger deeper into Boehner's back.

55 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:47:44pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

Oh yes, and by the way -- that "OWS terrorist" the morning wingnut wave was yelling about yesterday? He had no apparent connection to OWS at all. He and his girlfriend were just common criminals - both of them had records.

The New York Post totally pulled that accusation out of its right wing ass.

KT haz a sad.

56 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:52:19pm

A Look Back - October 2012

Jessica Williams interviews black Mormons, President Obama discusses his debate performance, and Nate Silver makes a presidential forecast. (06:13)

57 Stanghazi  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:53:30pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

Oh yes, and by the way -- that "OWS terrorist" the morning wingnut wave was yelling about yesterday? He had no apparent connection to OWS at all. He and his girlfriend were just common criminals - both of them had records.

The New York Post totally pulled that accusation out of its right wing ass.

And reported by our esteemed LGF researcher no less. Well I won't say either way, but......

58 dragonath  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:55:01pm

heh
HEH

59 dragonfire1981  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:55:41pm

How funny would it be if Cantor gave a press conference where he subtly ate an Orange as he spoke?

60 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:57:02pm

re: #58 dragonath

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heh
HEH

So freedom diminishes back to what we had under President Bush...
(What?!?)

61 dragonfire1981  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:57:31pm

Tell me, when did the United States reach this belief that Taxes are the ultimate Evil??

I mean I know nobody likes paying taxes and the government is spectacularly good at wasting money, BUT taxes go to pay for a lot of things we all take for granted.

Does these people understand how different our day to day life would be if all taxation suddenly stopped? It wouldn't be sunshine and rainbows that's for sure.

62 Stanghazi  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:57:34pm

Well fyi, it so far has been a great New Years Day. Hoppin' John in the crockpot, cornbread ready for the oven, kaluha & coffee, twilight zone marathon, LGF & the workings of congress!!! whooo!

63 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:58:13pm

re: #61 dragonfire1981

Tell me, when did the United States reach this belief that Taxes are the ultimate Evil??

I mean I know nobody likes paying taxes and the government is spectacularly good at wasting money, BUT taxes go to pay for a lot of things we all take for granted.

Does these people understand how different our day to day life would be if all taxation suddenly stopped? It wouldn't be sunshine and rainbows that's for sure.

"I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

That about cover it?

64 Stanghazi  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:58:26pm

re: #59 dragonfire1981

How funny would it be if Cantor gave a press conference where he subtly ate an Orange as he spoke?

l o l

65 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:58:29pm

re: #47 dragonfire1981

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The People's House? Really? REALLY?!

This one is especially amusing given the many conservatives who bemoan the amendment that made the Senate elected by the people rather than the state legislature. It's you, Mr. Fischer who are out of touch.

66 dragonath  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:59:17pm

CHORUS: Romney will deliver us

Enter Rafalca, farting rainbows.

67 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:59:36pm

re: #47 dragonfire1981

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The People's House? Really? REALLY?!

Da Comraden!

68 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 2:59:40pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

Oh yes, and by the way -- that "OWS terrorist" the morning wingnut wave was yelling about yesterday? He had no apparent connection to OWS at all. He and his girlfriend were just common criminals - both of them had records.

The New York Post totally pulled that accusation out of its right wing ass.

Not surprised. Bet ya won't see one word of retraction from those who wanted to make them out to be OWS leftists tho because hey agenda.

69 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:00:39pm

re: #62 Stanghazi

Any day off from work is good. :)

70 Stanghazi  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:02:42pm

re: #69 PhillyPretzel

Any day off from work is good. :)

And the game i care about is tomorrow nite - Sugar Bowl. ill be taking down my tree while freaking my neighbors out.

71 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:06:35pm

re: #70 Stanghazi

while freaking my neighbors out? What? Taking your tree down? Or something else?

72 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:08:32pm
73 Stanghazi  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:09:40pm

re: #71 PhillyPretzel

while freaking my neighbors out? What? Taking your tree down? Or something else?

i can be extremely loud. not many Gator fans who will understand in my hood.

74 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:09:54pm

This graphic is about the irrelevance of Little Green Footballs, but I can't resist posting it anyway. Has the requisite derp content.

Image: irrelevent.jpg

75 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:10:43pm

re: #74 wrenchwench

lol

76 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:10:48pm

re: #47 dragonfire1981

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The People's House? Really? REALLY?!

Is that anything like The People's Elbow or The People's Eyebrow? The Rock should sue.

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77 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:14:06pm

re: #74 wrenchwench

This graphic is about the irrelevance of Little Green Footballs, but I can't resist posting it anyway. Has the requisite derp content.

Image: irrelevent.jpg

Yeah, it's a common wingnut tactic - "you're irrelevant and nobody loves you!" A lot of these people seem to have been really stupid schoolyard bullies and never grew out of it. Andrew Breitbart is the classic example.

78 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:14:06pm

Nice turn of phrase on PBS Newshour "And now for more reaction to today's inaction."

And some GOP Rep from OK is spouting BS talking points about protecting the American People.

79 blueraven  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:14:56pm

house 2 bill strategy

80 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:16:54pm

House bells went off. 15 minutes to reconvene.

81 Mattand  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:17:31pm

re: #57 Stanghazi

And reported by our esteemed LGF researcher no less. Well I won't say either way, but......

What was so entertaining/headache-inducing was that NJD posted the initial link as a heads-up/gift for KT. I think the stupid thing got paged as well.

I'm not getting this whole "OWS is a dangerous cauldron of evil" bullshit.

82 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:19:04pm

re: #79 blueraven

house 2 bill strategy

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If they don't have the votes to pass an amended bill, then the only way they're going to bring the bill to the floor as-is will be to break the Hastert Rule. That happens, then Boehner's speakership is over.

83 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:19:42pm

Chick-Fil-a Debuts New Homophobic Sandwich | the Onion - America's Finest News Source

ATLANTA--As part of its recent efforts to publicly align itself with fundamentalist Christian values, the Chick-fil-A restaurant chain announced today the debut of its new Queer-Hatin' Cordon Bleu sandwich that would be on sale in all of the company's 1,600 restaurants this Wednesday.

In a press conference to reporters, company representatives said the homophobic new sandwich will include the national fast food chain's trademark fried chicken filet wrapped in a piece of specially-smoked No Homo ham that would be topped with a slice of Swiss cheese and lathered in a creamy new Thousand Island-based Fag Punching sauce.

"The Queer-Hatin' Cordon Bleu is our company's way of showing our firm commitment to strong, Christian family values," said Chick-fil-A spokesman Robert Gary, before adding that the vehemently anti-gay rights sandwich comes served in a combo with waffle fries and a medium soda for just $6.95. "From the very first morsel of this savory meal to the very last bite, customers can envision gays burning in hell with their sodomizing cohorts, and know that our sandwich is on their side."

84 makeitstop  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:20:53pm

re: #81 Mattand

What was so entertaining/headache-inducing was that NJD posted the initial link as a heads-up/gift for KT. I think the stupid thing got paged as well.

I'm not getting this whole "OWS is a dangerous cauldron of evil" bullshit.

A couple of people here are utterly convinced of that. I don't get it either.

The funny thing is they'll post a link to a story that demonizes OWS, then spend the better part of the next hour talking about what a failure the movement was and proclaiming its total irrelevance.

Kinda like that Pollak dude.

85 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:21:03pm

re: #81 Mattand

What was so entertaining/headache-inducing was that NJD posted the initial link as a heads-up/gift for KT. I think the stupid thing got paged as well.

I'm not getting this whole "OWS is a dangerous cauldron of evil" bullshit.

It was a useful distraction yesterday.

86 aagcobb  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:22:57pm

re: #79 blueraven

house 2 bill strategy

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Then it should pass as is. I don't think there are 218 GOP votes for any bill which includes increased taxes.

87 dragonath  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:23:11pm

re: #82 Targetpractice

If they don't have the votes to pass an amended bill, then the only way they're going to bring the bill to the floor as-is will be to break the Hastert Rule. That happens, then Boehner's speakership is over.

Hastert's "majority of the majority" system is the greater threat to the political system than the Senate filibuster, IMO.

88 dragonath  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:24:26pm
89 Interesting Times  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:25:51pm
90 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:26:06pm

re: #37 Political Atheist

You have a good wok? I had one but my stove just did not make enough heat.
We just finished brunch-Tried eggs Benedict with crepes. Can't remember ever making them before. Came out just a bit bland. But really rich.

I have a flat-bottom wok that I use over a gas flame. Just made the egg rolls!

91 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:26:15pm
92 Mich-again  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:27:20pm

Every day the GOP base gets smaller so the websites and networks competing for diminishing wingnut traffic have to be more and more outlandish and bombastic to get noticed.

93 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:27:24pm

re: #91 Gus

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Who is using who's playbook now?
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94 Interesting Times  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:27:45pm
95 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:28:56pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

This one is especially amusing given the many conservatives who bemoan the amendment that made the Senate elected by the people rather than the state legislature. It's you, Mr. Fischer who are out of touch.

Bryan can't stop gloating that the House is GOP controlled, so they can block any legislation that Obama recommends. Just because they can.

96 dragonfire1981  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:29:53pm

re: #92 Mich-again

Every day the GOP base gets smaller so the websites and networks competing for diminishing wingnut traffic have to be more and more outlandish and bombastic to get noticed.

Unfortunately with Obama as President there is, I'm certain, a reliable floor of wingnuts to keep these sites going. It will be interesting to see what happens after BHO leaves office, but for now the wingnut sites will continue to make money for at least the next 3 years.

97 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:30:09pm

re: #69 PhillyPretzel

Any day off from work is good. :)

Back to work tomorrow. But I was getting bored anyways.

I am very glad there is WORK to go back to!

98 dragonfire1981  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:30:35pm

re: #95 Vicious Babushka

Bryan can't stop gloating that the House is GOP controlled, so they can block any legislation that Obama recommends. Just because they can.

Not only that. They block legislation and blame Obama for "inaction".

99 Mich-again  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:32:18pm

re: #96 dragonfire1981

Unfortunately with Obama as President there is, I'm certain, a reliable floor of wingnuts to keep these sites going. It will be interesting to see what happens after BHO leaves office, but for now the wingnut sites will continue to make money for at least the next 3 years.

Old age is claiming more of the strident GOP base every day. I bet there is a small number of wingnut sites making real money and they are all trying to outkook each other to do it.

100 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:32:49pm

re: #98 dragonfire1981

Not only that. They block legislation and blame Obama for "inaction".

Bryan was totally gloating that if everyone falls off the fiscal cliff & taxes go up,

ITZ OBAMUZ FAULT!

. But even he realized that was over the top because he deleted those tweets.

101 RadicalModerate  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:34:06pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

Chick-Fil-a Debuts New Homophobic Sandwich | the Onion - America's Finest News Source

I'm tempted to go to the local Chick-fil-a just to see how many morons actually try to go and buy one.

102 Stanghazi  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:35:50pm

re: #79 blueraven

house 2 bill strategy

wheeeeeeeeeee

103 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:36:25pm


104 Interesting Times  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:36:43pm

re: #99 Mich-again

Old age is claiming more of the strident GOP base every day.

#ReasonsToBeHopefulForTheFuture

Yes, I know that's not nice, but at this point, a fuck I don't give :)

105 Mich-again  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:37:11pm

The problem for the House GOP members is that these negotiations are happening too fast for ALEC to tell them what they are supposed to do next.

106 Interesting Times  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:40:49pm
107 Stanghazi  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:41:31pm

Twilight Zone side bene: the decor! THE LAMPS! we used to have kick ass lamps in our living rooms.

108 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:45:16pm

THAT'S TOTALLY RIGHT YOU DUMBASS!

109 Mich-again  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:47:41pm

re: #108 Vicious Babushka

THAT'S TOTALLY RIGHT YOU DUMBASS!

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Thats my tweet.. ha

110 freetoken  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:47:45pm

Billionaires Worth $1.9 Trillion Seek ‘Advantage’ in 2013

The richest people on the planet got even richer in 2012, adding $241 billion to their collective net worth, according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, a daily ranking of the world’s 100 wealthiest individuals.

The aggregate net worth of the world’s top moguls stood at $1.9 trillion at the market close on Dec. 31, according to the index. Retail and telecommunications fortunes surged about 20 percent on average during the year. Of the 100 people who appeared on the final ranking of 2012, only 16 registered a net loss for the 12-month period.

[...]

WE NEEDS MOAR TAX BREAKZ 4 THE JOB CREATORZ!!

111 jaunte  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:47:51pm

re: #108 Vicious Babushka

College dropout economics.

112 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:48:25pm

re: #94 Interesting Times

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LOLOLOLOL! Brilliant.

113 freetoken  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:50:32pm

House Republicans sharply divided on fiscal cliff deal

A sharply divided House Republican leadership struggled to reach agreement on a measure to avoid part of the so-called “fiscal cliff,” as key members said they could not support the compromise approved early Tuesday by the Senate.

In a closed-door meeting of Republican House members, Rep. Eric Cantor of Virginia, the No. 2 Republican in the chamber, said he could not support the Senate-passed bill, according to two GOP lawmakers. Other Republicans said the bill would have to be amended and returned to the Senate.

[...]

A House divided can not stand.

We can only hope...

114 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:51:49pm

re: #108 Vicious Babushka

THAT'S TOTALLY RIGHT YOU DUMBASS!

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Says the woman who is suing Breitbart because she made a bad "business decision."

115 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:52:48pm

re: #109 Mich-again

Thats my tweet.. ha

You've picked up a swarm of derp.

116 Mich-again  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:54:02pm

re: #115 Gus

You've picked up a swarm of derp.

Ha. Like zombies..

117 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:54:23pm

re: #113 freetoken

House Republicans sharply divided on fiscal cliff deal

A House divided can not stand.

We can only hope...

Upding for the Lincoln quote.

118 freetoken  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:54:53pm

re: #117 Dark_Falcon

Upding for the Lincoln quote.

He got it out of the NT.

119 austin_blue  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:55:32pm

SWMBO just got a tweet saying the announcement of Hugo Chavez's death is imminent.

The Wingnut response will be...umm...interesting to see.

120 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:57:26pm

The thing about Joel Pollak is that he can pass himself off as a sane person or a crazy person. He shifts to be what he thinks will sell. So I therefore nominate this as his theme song:

121 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:58:48pm

1 billionaire maybe has two cars worth over 200K each or $400,000.

10,000 families have 20,000 cars worth 20K each or $400,000,000.

122 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:59:19pm

re: #119 austin_blue

SWMBO just got a tweet saying the announcement of Hugo Chavez's death is imminent.

The Wingnut response will be...umm...interesting to see.

I know what my response will be: I won't cry for the fucker, but the problem is who succeeds him in the Big Chair and what it will mean for political reform in Venezuela.

My fear is that the new boss will be the same as the old boss.

123 freetoken  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:59:45pm

re: #119 austin_blue

Wait until the power vacuum is filled with... non-wingnut approved actors. To many people in the US think Venezuela is all Chavez-centric, but my read from the outside is that it is a very dynamic country yet even the anti-Chavez group, while not being fond of Bolivarian strong-man tactics, is hardly going to be poster children for the glibertarians over at Reason.

124 dragonath  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 3:59:47pm

House Considers Two Votes on Superstorm Sandy Emergency Funding

That's right, the House GOP is going to have two votes on everything when they can't even pass one.

125 jaunte  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:00:42pm
126 dragonfire1981  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:00:59pm

re: #124 dragonath

House Considers Two Votes on Superstorm Sandy Emergency Funding

That's right, the House GOP is going to have two votes on everything when they can't even pass one.

It's like they are trying to win a bet to see how utterly incompetent they can actually be.

127 freetoken  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:01:18pm

re: #121 Gus

1 billionaire maybe has two cars worth over 200K each or $400,000.

10,000 families have 20,000 cars worth 20K each or $400,000,000.

And furthermore, the auto loans on those 20,000 cars are held by institutions controlled by the billionaire, who makes money via the interest rate paid by those 10,000 families.

128 Mich-again  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:01:51pm

How come people who win the lottery don't all run out and create jobs??

129 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:02:23pm

1 billionaire maybe owns 2 homes at $20 mil. each or $40,000,000.

10,000 families owning 10,000 homes at $250,000 each or $2,500,000,000.

130 jaunte  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:02:31pm

re: #121 Gus

1 billionaire maybe has two cars worth over 200K each or $400,000.

10,000 families have 20,000 cars worth 20K each or $400,000,000.

LEFTIST MATH!

131 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:03:12pm

re: #125 jaunte

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Build me an army worthy of Koch Industries!

132 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:03:31pm

re: #127 freetoken

And furthermore, the auto loans on those 20,000 cars are held by institutions controlled by the billionaire, who makes money via the interest rate paid by those 10,000 families.

Plus all the insurance, maintenance, and repair. Tires. Gasoline. Etc.

133 dragonfire1981  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:03:35pm

You know the gun buying craze is a perfect example of how jobs are ACTUALLY created.

What happened when the demand for guns went sky high? Gun companies started HIRING MORE PEOPLE to help fulfill all the orders they were getting.

All those people afraid that Obama would take Assault Rifles away and rushed to by them and the ammunition they take in huge quantities are real job creators.

134 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:04:39pm

re: #128 Mich-again

How come people who win the lottery don't all run out and create jobs??

Most of them don't have the ability. Running a business is hard, and most people aren't really able to do it. People able and willing to lead aren't that common.

135 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:04:59pm

Trickle down economics is a fraud.

136 dragonfire1981  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:05:28pm

re: #134 Dark_Falcon

Most of them don't have the ability. Running a business is hard, and most people aren't really able to do it. People able and willing to lead aren't that common.

But people who think they can lead when they really haven't got a clue are a dime a dozen. Go figure.

I also object to your assertion running a business is hard. I run a small business myself (I am the only employee) and while it does require some effort, I do not find it overly complex.

Now of course if I expanded and added more workers and increased my investment and so on and so forth then the complexity goes up.

But regardless, running a business in and of itself it actually not too complicated as long as you have some common sense, basic math skills and good knowledge on what you're selling.

137 Mich-again  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:08:14pm

re: #133 dragonfire1981

You know the gun buying craze is a perfect example of how jobs are ACTUALLY created.

What happened when the demand for guns went sky high? Gun companies started HIRING MORE PEOPLE to help fulfill all the orders they were getting.

All those people afraid that Obama would take Assault Rifles away and rushed to by them and the ammunition they take in huge quantities are real job creators.

The job growth in the gun industry was "triggered" by an increase in demand. To Dana Loesh and other RWers, higher profits at the corporate level are all it takes to spur job growth.

138 freetoken  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:10:52pm

Is "society" a ponzi scheme?

139 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:11:06pm

re: #138 freetoken

Is "society" a ponzi scheme?

Pretty much.

140 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:11:13pm

re: #136 dragonfire1981

But people who think they can lead when they really haven't got a clue are a dime a dozen. Go figure.

I also object to your assertion running a business is hard. I run a small business myself (I am the only employee) and while it does require some effort, I do not find it overly complex.

Now of course if I expanded and added more workers and increased my investment and so on and so forth then the complexity goes up.

But regardless, running a business in and of itself it actually not too complicated as long as you have some common sense, basic math skills and good knowledge on what you're selling.

Ah, but there's the rub; Common sense isn't all that common and far too many people try to sell without really understanding their product. I can't tell you how many people I've seen come into sales jobs I've also been working only to leave after a few months because they did not really understand what they needed to do to be successful and would learn when those who did know tried to explain it to them (the knowers sometimes included me).

141 jaunte  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:11:31pm
142 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:11:43pm

re: #138 freetoken

Is "society" a ponzi scheme?

Explain why you ask.

143 Mich-again  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:12:10pm

re: #134 Dark_Falcon

Most of them don't have the ability. Running a business is hard, and most people aren't really able to do it. People able and willing to lead aren't that common.

I understand. my point is that I dispute the notion by the RW that when rich people get richer they automatically use their extra cash to go create jobs. That's not how it works. Business start up and expand to meet growing / changing demand from consumers. If there is not a strong middle class with disposable income to spend, then private sector job creation will not happen no matter if you reduced the tax rate on rich people to 0%.

144 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:12:36pm

re: #141 jaunte

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Business in front, party in the back. Nice mullet, Eric.

145 dragonfire1981  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:13:11pm

OT, I know there are plenty of music connoisseurs here on LGF and I'm wondering if there are any other Gordon Lightfoot fans on here?

I know Lightfoot is a Canadian institution but I know he's not unheard of in the U.S.

I really love his voice and his music. Really genuine heartfelt stuff. "If you could read my mind" has always been one of my favourite songs.

146 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:13:13pm

re: #135 Gus

Trickle down economics is a fraud.

It's always been a fraud, but people stupidly keep buying into it.

I don't understand it. You can have all the supply in the world but if nobody wants what you're selling, you just have piles of dead weight lying around.

147 freetoken  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:14:17pm

re: #142 Dark_Falcon

Explain why you ask?

I was just reading Neandertal anti-defamation files, 17 and browsing through the referenced pre-print while thinking about those 100 billionaires whose avg. net worth increased by only $2.4 billion last year... and it struck me that we've all been "Ron Jeremy'd".

148 dragonfire1981  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:14:38pm

re: #140 Dark_Falcon

Ah, but there's the rub; Common sense isn't all that common and far too many people try to sell without really understanding their product. I can't tell you how many people I've seen come into sales jobs I've also been working only to leave after a few months because they did not really understand what they needed to do to be successful and would learn when those who did know tried to explain it to them (the knowers sometimes included me).

Again though there is a distinct difference between running a business and running a business WELL. Simply running a business is not that hard. Running one well? That's the tricky part.

149 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:14:58pm

re: #143 Mich-again

I understand. my point is that I dispute the notion by the RW that when rich people get richer they automatically use their extra cash to go create jobs. That's not how it works. Business start up and expand to meet growing / changing demand from consumers. If there is not a strong middle class with disposable income to spend, then private sector job creation will not happen no matter if you reduced the tax rate on rich people to 0%.

That point you made is one I agree with. The main problem with it is that it takes longer to effectively make it than it someone else to show lurid images and shout slogans. It often loses because its easier to win votes with DERP!.

150 Mich-again  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:15:24pm

re: #141 jaunte

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If it was my yearbook and the teacher asked for a quote for my picture, I'm guessing it would be something other than "I AM ERIC IVAN CANTOR AND I AM AN ASSHOLE!"

151 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:15:34pm

Recess again.

152 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:15:43pm

What a freaking joke.

153 blueraven  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:16:24pm

re: #141 jaunte

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brat

154 dragonfire1981  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:16:25pm

re: #151 Gus

Recess again.

Why would they need that when they've already been playing around endlessly for weeks now?

155 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:17:01pm

re: #145 dragonfire1981

OT, I know there are plenty of music connoisseurs here on LGF and I'm wondering if there are any other Gordon Lightfoot fans on here?

I know Lightfoot is a Canadian institution but I know he's not unheard of in the U.S.

I really love his voice and his music. Really genuine heartfelt stuff. "If you could read my mind" has always been one of my favourite songs.

Like some of his stuff and have a "Best Of" CD downloaded into my iTunes list. So "Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald", "Sundown", and a few others pop up now and again in a playlist or two.

156 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:17:09pm
157 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:17:35pm

re: #154 dragonfire1981

Why would they need that when they've already been playing around endlessly for weeks now?

They're still voting on unfinished bills.

158 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:18:03pm

re: #145 dragonfire1981

OT, I know there are plenty of music connoisseurs here on LGF and I'm wondering if there are any other Gordon Lightfoot fans on here?

I know Lightfoot is a Canadian institution but I know he's not unheard of in the U.S.

I really love his voice and his music. Really genuine heartfelt stuff. "If you could read my mind" has always been one of my favourite songs.

He's decently regarded in the states that border the Great Lakes, mostly for this haunting song about an event that occurred exactly two years before I was born:

159 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:19:47pm
160 dragonfire1981  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:20:11pm

re: #155 Feline Fearless Leader

Like some of his stuff and have a "Best Of" CD downloaded into my iTunes list. So "Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald", "Sundown", and a few others pop up now and again in a playlist or two.

"Rainy Day people", "Carefree Highyway" and "Canadian Railroad Trilogy" are some of his other notable works.

161 dragonath  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:20:16pm

re: #135 Gus

Trickle down economics is a fraud.

I had a teacher describe trickle down economics thus--- a kid who keeps trying to fill a ditch with water, without figuring out why all the water is soaking into the ground.

162 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:20:32pm

re: #141 jaunte

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Perfect poster boy for the "fuck you, I've got mine" RWNJ contingent in modern American politics.

163 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:21:01pm

re: #160 dragonfire1981

"Rainy Day people", "Carefree Highyway" and "Canadian Railroad Trilogy" are some of his other notable works.

164 Interesting Times  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:22:24pm
165 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:23:30pm

re: #145 dragonfire1981

OT, I know there are plenty of music connoisseurs here on LGF and I'm wondering if there are any other Gordon Lightfoot fans on here?

I know Lightfoot is a Canadian institution but I know he's not unheard of in the U.S.

I really love his voice and his music. Really genuine heartfelt stuff. "If you could read my mind" has always been one of my favourite songs.

Love Gordon Lightfoot...I dig all his hits from back in the day, but "Beautiful" has become my favorite song of his:

166 Bubblehead II  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:23:45pm

re: #16 bratwurst

THAT is a trial lawyer? (per her Twitter profile!)

Image: thescream.jpg

Not only that, but if you look closely at the picture on her profile, she is holding that rifle wrong. Hint: it is sitting way to high on her shoulder.

167 freetoken  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:24:07pm

re: #164 Interesting Times

Once you've been under the tanning lamps long enough you've turned into leather.

168 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:24:52pm

re: #160 dragonfire1981

"Rainy Day people", "Carefree Highyway" and "Canadian Railroad Trilogy" are some of his other notable works.

Familiar with those due to the CD mentioned above. (2002 - Complete Greatest Hits with 20 tracks.)

169 dragonath  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:25:07pm

re: #141 jaunte

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Eric Ivan Cancer

170 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:25:19pm

#tcot knows exactly who to blame for this mess:

171 freetoken  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:25:34pm

Might play out in future discussions:

Can Epigenetics Explain Homosexuality?

Researchers looking for a genetic signature of homosexuality have been barking up the wrong tree, according to a trio of researchers in the United States and Sweden. Instead, the scientists posit, epigenetic influences acting on androgen signaling in the brain may underlie sexual orientation. In a paper published last week (December 11) in The Quarterly Review of Biology, they propose a model describing how epigenetic markers that steer sexual development in males could promote homosexual orientation in females, and vice versa. The scientists offer their model to explain both the tendency of homosexuality to run in families, and the fact that so far no “homosexual gene” has been identified.

[...]

172 CuriousLurker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:26:57pm

re: #158 Dark_Falcon

He's decently regarded in the states that border the Great Lakes, mostly for this haunting song about an event that occurred exactly two years before I was born:

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Sheesh, that makes you like 10 years older than my son. I feel ancient.

173 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:27:11pm

re: #170 Lidane

#tcot knows exactly who to blame for this mess:

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[headdesk]
[headdesk]
[headdesk]
[headdesk]
[headdesk]
[headdesk]
[headdesk]


Ow, that smarts.

174 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:27:56pm

re: #163 Gus

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I get a very late 60s-70s vibe from him. References to go-go dancers, 707s, etc. in his particular folk style.

175 Stanghazi  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:28:24pm

re: #134 Dark_Falcon

Most of them don't have the ability. Running a business is hard, and most people aren't really able to do it. People able and willing to lead aren't that common.

Bullshit. Give an American a chance, they can run a business.

176 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:29:33pm
177 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:29:42pm

re: #172 CuriousLurker

Sheesh, that makes you like 10 years older than my son. I feel ancient.

I was a shade over 10 months old when the actual wreck of the Fitzgerald happened...

178 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:30:13pm

re: #172 CuriousLurker

Sheesh, that makes you like 10 years older than my son. I feel ancient.

November 10th, 1977, two years after the Edmund Fitzgerald was lost, was the day I was born.

November 10th is also notable as the day in 1775 when the US Marine Corps was founded and the day in 1924 when Chicago North Side Gang leader Dean O'Banion was killed in Schofield's Flower Shop on State St.

179 Kragar  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:31:03pm

re: #178 Dark_Falcon

November 10th, 1977, two years after the Edmund Fitzgerald was lost, was the day I was born.

November 10th is also notable as the day in 1775 when the US Marine Corps was founded and the day in 1924 when Chicago North Side Gang leader Dean O'Banion was killed in Schofield's Flower Shop on State St.

Damn, I'm older than you. Now I do feel old.
/

180 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:31:41pm

re: #175 Stanghazi

Bullshit. Give an American a chance, they can run a business.

Most can't do it well, but Americans should be able to try, if they've got the money and the idea.

181 Varek Raith  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:32:25pm

Damn, I'm younger than most of you.
:P

182 Kragar  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:32:57pm

re: #181 Varek Raith

Damn, I'm younger than most of you.
:P

GET OFF MY LAWN!

183 CuriousLurker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:33:31pm

re: #160 dragonfire1981

"Rainy Day people", "Carefree Highyway" and "Canadian Railroad Trilogy" are some of his other notable works.

184 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:34:10pm

Ahahahaha:

185 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:34:33pm

re: #181 Varek Raith

Damn, I'm younger than most of you.
:P

I'm surprised you didn't bust this out:
Image: NelsonHaHa.jpg
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186 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:34:58pm

re: #173 Dark_Falcon

[headdesk]
[headdesk]
[headdesk]
[headdesk]
[headdesk]
[headdesk]
[headdesk]

Ow, that smarts.

And you're still using your head more than she is. Heh.

187 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:35:46pm

Something smells like foot powder with a bouquet of stinky butt and a hint of Old Spice.

188 Mich-again  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:36:19pm

re: #158 Dark_Falcon

He's decently regarded in the states that border the Great Lakes, mostly for this haunting song about an event that occurred exactly two years before I was born:

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I have a nice signed print of the Edmund Fitzgerald by maritime artist Leo Kuschel. I hung up a painting of a different ship (J W Westcott II) next to the Fitz after we bought the new one at an art fair and a couple months later, that boat sank too.

189 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:36:55pm

re: #184 Lidane

Ahahahaha:

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Proper Biden reply:

"Thanks Ted, but I get all the crazy I need dealing with the Congress."

190 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:36:56pm

re: #187 Gus

TMI. Way too much info.

191 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:37:36pm

re: #188 Mich-again

I have a nice signed print of the Edmund Fitzgerald by maritime artist Leo Kuschel. I hung up a painting of a different ship (J W Westcott II) next to the Fitz after we bought the new one at an art fair and a couple months later, that boat sank too.

Now that's a jinx in action.

192 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:38:14pm

re: #187 Gus

Something smells like foot powder with a bouquet of stinky butt and a hint of Old Spice.

What are you doing in Limaugh's studio?

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193 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:39:28pm

Tech note: the Featured and Recent Pages lists on the right are now using HTML definition lists for better semantic structure. This will mean zilch to 99% of those who read it.

194 dragonath  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:39:41pm

Old Spice should make room deodorant, like Febreeze or something.

195 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:39:42pm

re: #178 Dark_Falcon

November 10th, 1977, two years after the Edmund Fitzgerald was lost, was the day I was born.

November 10th is also notable as the day in 1775 when the US Marine Corps was founded and the day in 1924 when Chicago North Side Gang leader Dean O'Banion was killed in Schofield's Flower Shop on State St.

Well, damn. I'm eight years older than you. Born in August of 1969.

196 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:40:18pm

Heh:

197 jaunte  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:40:35pm

re: #194 dragonath

"Dadwind"

198 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:42:19pm

re: #196 Lidane

Heh:

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Libertarians have that rare gift of making me feel like a pragmatist when it comes to politics. I like some of their social policy stuff but their economic views I think are often grounded in fantasy and vacuums.

199 CuriousLurker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:42:40pm

OT: Anyone remember Billy Jack and the song One Tin Soldier? Kinda reminds me of now, actually...RWNJs versus liberal hippies!

Listen, children, to a story
That was written long ago [...]

Go ahead and hate your neighbor
Go ahead and cheat a friend.
Do it in the name of heaven,
You can justify it in the end [...]

200 dragonath  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:43:03pm

re: #198 HappyWarrior

I like some of their social policy stuff but their economic views I think are often grounded in fantasy and vacuums.

You mean in the sucking kind of way?

201 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:43:23pm

re: #109 Mich-again

Thats my tweet.. ha

Why didn't you tell me? :) Following.

202 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:44:09pm

re: #199 CuriousLurker

OT: Anyone remember Billy Jack and the song One Tin Soldier? Kinda reminds me of now, actually...RWNJs versus liberal hippies!

Listen, children, to a story
That was written long ago [...]

Go ahead and hate your neighbor
Go ahead and cheat a friend.
Do it in the name of heaven,
You can justify it in the end [...]

[Embedded content]

I always hated that stupid song!

Hated it, in a visceral "THIS SONG SUCKS!" the same way that I utterly hate "I Put Yer Picture Away" and scat-style "Jingle Bells"

203 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:44:43pm

re: #197 jaunte

"Dadwind"

I want one that smells like grease, stinky butt (always required) and Drakkar.

205 CuriousLurker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:45:18pm

re: #202 Vicious Babushka

I always hated that stupid song!

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Nooo! I love it. I know it's kinda sappy, but still, heh.

206 jaunte  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:45:54pm

re: #203 Gus

"With bits of real Drakkar in it."

207 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:46:08pm

re: #204 jaunte

GOP Congressmen Suggest Republican Senators Who Voted For ‘Fiscal Cliff’ Compromise Were Drunk

"Just kidding!"

As opposed to Issa who spends his New Years breaking into cars. Hey, if he's going to be a cheapshot artist, two can play that game.

208 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:46:39pm
209 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:46:39pm

re: #202 Vicious Babushka

I always hated that stupid song!

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Here's one for ya.

210 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:46:42pm

re: #206 jaunte

"With bits of real Drakkar in it."

That's how you know it's good.

211 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:47:26pm

Convoy!

212 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:47:38pm

Have to say though despite the political crap. I've got a good feeling about this year. Last night was awesome on so many levels.

213 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:48:14pm

Damn, I was all hyped up today about a pending business deal but looks like it's not going to happen today. Oh, well. I thought it was kind of odd people wanted to spend the holiday trading phone calls and negotiating. Maybe tomorrow.

214 CuriousLurker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:48:36pm

LOL, someone tweet this to #tcot and see how many heads you can explode.

215 freetoken  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:49:13pm

re: #204 jaunte

Issa, better known as one of the richest men in Congress, car theif, and all around trouble maker.

His district here in Southern California includes a considerable number of 1%ers, as well as hard theocrats.

216 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:49:40pm

re: #212 HappyWarrior

Have to say though despite the political crap. I've got a good feeling about this year. Last night was awesome on so many levels.

I'm still pretty nervous about the economy but at least it looks like they're going to squeak out some sort of budget deal.

217 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:50:23pm

re: #210 TedStriker

218 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:50:43pm
219 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:51:29pm

re: #218 Lidane

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220 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:51:42pm

re: #199 CuriousLurker

OT: Anyone remember Billy Jack and the song One Tin Soldier? Kinda reminds me of now, actually...RWNJs versus liberal hippies!

Listen, children, to a story
That was written long ago [...]

Go ahead and hate your neighbor
Go ahead and cheat a friend.
Do it in the name of heaven,
You can justify it in the end [...]

[Embedded content]

I first heard that song sung by a cousin of mine, and didn't hear a recorded version of it till years later. It's a favorite of mine and one I've posted sometimes, usually in reply to hateful ideologues who want to turn a country upside down

221 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:52:47pm

re: #218 Lidane

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To borrow from a song: "If it makes Malkin unhappy, it can't be that bad."

222 freetoken  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:52:59pm

I never did get around to putting up a Page on the following, the contents of which if you take it seriously are rather disturbing:

More than one-third (36%) of Americans believe that the severity of recent natural disasters is evidence that we are in what the Bible calls the end times. Roughly 6-in-10 (59%) Americans disagree.

Nearly two-thirds (65%) of white evangelical Protestants believe that the severity of recent natural disasters is evidence of what the Bible calls the end times, compared to roughly 1-in-5 Catholics (21%) and religiously unaffiliated Americans (15%).

Four-in-ten (40%) independents, 35% of Democrats, and one-third (33%) of Republicans agree that the severity of recent natural disasters is evidence that we are in what the Bible calls the end times.

When that group who thinks we are in "The End" controls a significant congressional caucus, is there any wonder why we can't have reasonable discussions about legislation for the future?

223 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:54:22pm

Related:

224 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:54:28pm

re: #222 freetoken

I never did get around to putting up a Page on the following, the contents of which if you take it seriously are rather disturbing:

When that group who thinks we are in "The End" controls a significant congressional caucus, is there any wonder why we can't have reasonable discussions about legislation for the future?

Evangelical Protestants are usually out of touch with reality in my observations. I'm willing to bet you that they're the reason we have such a high percentage of people who doubt evolution in this country.

225 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:55:17pm

re: #194 dragonath

Old Spice should make room deodorant, like Febreeze or something.

Maybe formed into little statues of Bruce Campbell in his various movie or TV roles?
;)

226 freetoken  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:55:49pm

re: #224 HappyWarrior

Evangelical Protestants are usually out of touch with reality in my observations. I'm willing to bet you that they're the reason we have such a high percentage of people who doubt evolution in this country.

There's no doubt on that, as surveys have shown that to be true.

The point I'm making is that apocalyptic group doesn't really care about "tomorrow", as they think they'll be magically saved from this or that problem.

227 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:56:29pm

re: #226 freetoken

There's no doubt on that, as surveys have shown that to be true.

The point I'm making is that apocalyptic group doesn't really care about "tomorrow", as they think they'll be magically saved from this or that problem.

Oh yeah no doubt about that. Sorry, totally get and agree with your point. Nutters.

228 CuriousLurker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:56:58pm

re: #223 Lidane

Michelle Malkin
@michellemalkin

Update: DOOM ==> is.gd/GBYGst

CL <== Schadenfreude

229 dragonath  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:58:38pm

DOOM DOOM

Drums, drums in the deep?

230 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:58:48pm

Boom! We'll see what happens.

231 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:58:51pm
232 blueraven  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:58:51pm

re: #202 Vicious Babushka

I always hated that stupid song!

Hated it, in a visceral "THIS SONG SUCKS!" the same way that I utterly hate "I Put Yer Picture Away" and scat-style "Jingle Bells"

The song I really hated was "Muskrat Love"
First by America, who I generally liked quite a bit, but then Captain and Tenille had a hit with it. 10 times worse. Oh how I hated them for that.

233 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:58:58pm

re: #225 Feline Fearless Leader

Maybe formed into little statues of Bruce Campbell in his various movie or TV roles?
;)

Or Terry Crews.

/P-P-P-P-POWER!!!

234 jaunte  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:59:15pm

re: #229 dragonath

DOOM DOOM

Drums, drums in the deep?

Beware the Ballhog.

235 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:59:33pm
236 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:59:36pm

re: #202 Vicious Babushka

I always hated that stupid song!

Hated it, in a visceral "THIS SONG SUCKS!" the same way that I utterly hate "I Put Yer Picture Away" and scat-style "Jingle Bells"

Still better than Gordon Lightfoot.

//ducks and runs

237 Mich-again  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:00:00pm

re: #222 freetoken

When that group who thinks we are in "The End" controls a significant congressional caucus, is there any wonder why we can't have reasonable discussions about legislation for the future?

Sort of the same explanation for why they don't care about climate change. They only care about what affects them right now, not future generations. The willful ignorance is a mask for greed.

238 freetoken  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:00:25pm

re: #230 Gus

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Boom! We'll see what happens.

That last "boom" you hear will be the creation of a new universe after the collapse of the current one.

239 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:00:28pm

re: #205 CuriousLurker

Nooo! I love it. I know it's kinda sappy, but still, heh.

I saw the movie when it came out. I was with hippies! O:

240 Varek Raith  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:01:01pm

re: #223 Lidane

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241 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:01:39pm

re: #211 Gus

Convoy!

Still better than Gordon Lightfoot!

242 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:01:40pm

re: #237 Mich-again

Sort of the same explanation for why they don't care about climate change. They only care about what affects them right now, not future generations. The willful ignorance is a mask for greed.

I remember a local Democratic politician saying one of the reasons he joined the Democratic party was that in his observations the Democrats were a party that thought more about the longer term implications of policy while the Republicans were more short term in thinking. You can really see that especially in regards to policies especially like Climate Change for reasons you say.

243 CuriousLurker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:01:48pm

re: #220 Dark_Falcon

I first heard that song sung by a cousin of mine, and didn't hear a recorded version of it till years later. It's a favorite of mine and one I've posted sometimes, usually in reply to hateful ideologues who want to turn a country upside down

It's a great song insofar as its message goes. Be fair. Do the right thing. Dishonesty, greed, and strife will earn nothing good in the long run. Lessons we all learned in kindergarten, but seem to forget all to often.

244 jaunte  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:02:03pm
245 Kragar  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:02:41pm
246 dragonath  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:03:11pm

Not only did the band America give the world "Muskrat Love", they brought us "Horse With No Name" too.

247 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:03:12pm

Haha:

248 freetoken  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:04:13pm

150th Anniversary of the Emancipation Proclamation

The Confederacy has never been the same since.

249 CuriousLurker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:04:29pm

re: #229 dragonath

DOOM DOOM

Drums, drums in the deep?

250 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:04:34pm

re: #241 wrenchwench

Still better than Gordon Lightfoot!

Seriously?

Who could NOT like Gordon Lightfoot?

/stomps feets

251 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:04:56pm

re: #247 Lidane

Haha:

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The smell of right wing cannibalism in the morning.

252 Varek Raith  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:05:18pm

re: #247 Lidane

Haha:

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Whut

253 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:05:40pm

re: #246 dragonath

Not only did the band America give the world "Muskrat Love", they brought us "Horse With No Name" too.

Ummm, "Muskrat Love" was The Captain & Tennille, not America.

Correction: America did it first...ugggghhhh.

254 CuriousLurker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:05:47pm

re: #232 blueraven

The song I really hated was "Muskrat Love"
First by America, who I generally liked quite a bit, but then Captain and Tenille had a hit with it. 10 times worse. Oh how I hated them for that.

Oh, gawd, how I loathed that song!

That and "Seasons in the Sun". *gag*

255 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:05:48pm
256 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:05:57pm

"Pink Panther" is on on TCM. If I want to watch bumbling, I will watch Peter Sellers.

257 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:05:59pm

re: #248 freetoken

150th Anniversary of the Emancipation Proclamation

The Confederacy has never been the same since.

It took a lot of courage on Lincoln's part to do that.

258 jaunte  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:06:25pm

re: #253 TedStriker

Actually, Willis Alan Ramsey.

259 blueraven  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:06:36pm

re: #246 dragonath

Not only did the band America give the world "Muskrat Love", they brought us "Horse With No Name" too.

Loved Ventura Highway though

re: #253 TedStriker

Ummm, "Muskrat Love" was The Captain & Tennille, not America.

both...America was first

260 freetoken  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:07:30pm

re: #255 Gus

[Link: www.c-span.org...]

lots of long winded stories

261 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:07:55pm

re: #250 TedStriker

Seriously?

Who could NOT like Gordon Lightfoot?

/stomps feets

Just one of those things.... It's not one of those where I can't see why anyone would like him, (trying to think of an example...) Maybe he was overplayed on the radio when I was a kid or something.

262 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:08:04pm

re: #165 TedStriker

I like his tunes, but saw him in the Power Center at Michigan once, and he really overdid the "women throwing panties on stage" thing.

263 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:08:11pm

re: #259 blueraven

Loved Ventura Highway though

re: #253 TedStriker

both...America was first

So I see.

264 wilburs  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:08:14pm

re: #245 Kragar

Fox News host shoots self with confetti gun

A quick start to the Fox 2013 fail parade

NEED MOAR GUNZ!

265 dragonath  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:08:14pm

re: #253 TedStriker

Ummm, "Muskrat Love" was The Captain & Tennille, not America.

I just found out it was this dude

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

266 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:08:27pm

WTF:

267 dragonath  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:08:49pm

re: #258 jaunte

Actually, Willis Alan Ramsey.

aarrgh

268 Stanghazi  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:08:59pm

re: #199 CuriousLurker

OT: Anyone remember Billy Jack and the song One Tin Soldier? Kinda reminds me of now, actually...RWNJs versus liberal hippies!

Listen, children, to a story
That was written long ago [...]

Go ahead and hate your neighbor
Go ahead and cheat a friend.
Do it in the name of heaven,
You can justify it in the end [...]

[Embedded content]

From my Mom's Pinto!!!!!

The words are forever obviously.

269 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:09:17pm

re: #262 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I like his tunes, but saw him in the Power Center at Michigan once, and he really overdid the "women throwing panties on stage" thing.

O RLY?

270 Kragar  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:10:07pm

re: #266 Lidane

WTF:

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Odd coming from a group who prays for the annihilation of a country so their mystical savior will return to them.

271 CuriousLurker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:10:15pm

re: #246 dragonath

My dad hated "Horse with No Name"--he thought that song had the stupidest lyrics ever. (I kinda liked it, but it wasn't a major fave.)

272 freetoken  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:10:16pm

Remember, those congressmen you see on CSPAN are 90% bacterial colonies:

'We are 90% bacteria,' says researcher for Hospital Microbiome Project

273 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:10:31pm

re: #261 wrenchwench

Just one of those things.... It's not one of those where I can't see why anyone would like him, (trying to think of an example...) Maybe he was overplayed on the radio when I was a kid or something.

I could see that.

Gordon was a staple around the house when I was a kid, along with Jim Croce and John Denver; I have an affinity for all of them.

274 jaunte  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:10:59pm

re: #266 Lidane

WTF:

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"Over the cliff, over the top, what's the difference?"

275 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:11:20pm

re: #271 CuriousLurker

My dad hated "Horse with No Name"--he thought that song had the stupidest lyrics ever. (I kinda liked it, but it wasn't a major fave.)

I always thought "the ocean is a desert with the life underground, and the perfect disguise above" was sorta clever.

276 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:11:48pm

re: #273 TedStriker

I could see that.

Gordon was a staple around the house when I was a kid, along with Jim Croce and John Denver; I have an affinity for all of them.

When Jim Croce died I thought it was one of the worst things that ever happened, ever.

Not a big John Denver fan.

277 wilburs  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:11:55pm

Don't anybody say ANYTHING against The Carpenters!

278 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:12:30pm

re: #266 Lidane

WTF:

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279 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:12:34pm

re: #277 wilburs

Don't anybody say ANYTHING against The Carpenters!

lol times infinity

280 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:12:46pm

re: #273 TedStriker

I could see that.

Gordon was a staple around the house when I was a kid, along with Jim Croce and John Denver; I have an affinity for all of them.

Don't really know Lightfoot that well but I know Denver and Croce. I think Operation(That's Not The Way It Feels) is one of my favorite heartbreak songs of all time.

281 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:13:20pm

re: #278 Gus

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Oops. Fixed. Open the comment if you want to see the correct Tweet.

282 Kragar  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:13:48pm

re: #277 wilburs

Don't anybody say ANYTHING against The Carpenters!

They're not Starship.

283 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:13:55pm

re: #277 wilburs

Don't anybody say ANYTHING against The Carpenters!

The Carpenters was also played a lot in our house when I was growing up.

284 CuriousLurker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:14:02pm

re: #273 TedStriker

I could see that.

Gordon was a staple around the house when I was a kid, along with Jim Croce and John Denver; I have an affinity for all of them.

Same here. *glares at wrenchwench*

285 BeenHereAwhile  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:14:21pm

re: #145 dragonfire1981

OT, I know there are plenty of music connoisseurs here on LGF and I'm wondering if there are any other Gordon Lightfoot fans on here?

I know Lightfoot is a Canadian institution but I know he's not unheard of in the U.S.

I really love his voice and his music. Really genuine heartfelt stuff. "If you could read my mind" has always been one of my favourite songs.

Very talented songwriter & performer.

Little known fact; the "Sunshine" sung about in "Sunshine you better take care," is the same Susan Smith, who gave John Belushi his last speed ball.

286 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:14:39pm

re: #281 Gus

Oops. Fixed. Open the comment if you want to see the correct Tweet.

Damn, how come I never thought of doing that instead of refreshing the whole darn page after an edit?

You so smart.

287 jaunte  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:14:41pm

re: #277 wilburs

Don't anybody say ANYTHING against The Carpenters!

Best celebrity stalker song ever.

288 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:15:19pm

Although I like sports. I am glad my Dad was the type that would rather listen to a good CD than watch the big game. Found out about so many good artists through him. Still do. I feel great when I can return the favor for a change. Listening to Ryan Adams right now.

289 Kragar  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:15:22pm

Because when you think of integrity and lack of corruption, the Russian government is always the first example which come to mind.

290 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:15:52pm

Alouette. I think this one might make your derp list.

291 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:15:55pm

re: #276 wrenchwench

When Jim Croce died I thought it was one of the worst things that ever happened, ever.

Not a big John Denver fan.

I love most of Croce's stuff, but I'm a bit more selective on Denver (my mom prefers Lightfoot, while my dad preferred Croce and Denver); I could listen to "Rocky Mountain High", "Annie's Song", and "The Eagle and the Hawk" all day, but can do without most of the rest of his catalog

292 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:15:56pm

I could listen to Paul Simon, with or without Garfunkle, all day every day for the rest of my life.

293 jaunte  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:16:14pm

re: #289 Kragar

...Russia has a 17% flat tax and a virile leader...

Alpha Male!!!

294 bigredwookie  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:16:15pm

re: #145 dragonfire1981

I love Gordon and his music

295 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:16:57pm

re: #289 Kragar

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Because when you think of integrity and lack of corruption, the Russian government is always the first example which come to mind.

Yeah someone doesn't read the paper.

296 CuriousLurker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:17:02pm

re: #278 Gus

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WTF? Now it's the Jews' fault?

297 Varek Raith  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:17:34pm

re: #293 jaunte

298 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:18:20pm

re: #278 Gus

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Is Denise Pronti a parody account?

299 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:18:42pm

re: #296 CuriousLurker

WTF? Now it's the Jews' fault?

It's what a lot of them really think. You know how they are about LIBERAL JUICE!!11ty

300 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:18:51pm

re: #292 wrenchwench

I could listen to Paul Simon, with or without Garfunkle, all day every day for the rest of my life.

People speaking without talking
People hearing without llistening
People writing songs never shared

Poetry

301 CuriousLurker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:18:57pm

re: #290 Gus

Alouette. I think this one might make your derp list.

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Annnnnd *BINGO!* there it is. I was feeling kinda left out that they were picking on Jews and not Muslims.

How come the Juice are always more popular?? //

302 Varek Raith  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:19:39pm

re: #296 CuriousLurker

WTF? Now it's the Jews' fault?

It's either the Jew's or Bush's fault.
Or both.
/

303 CuriousLurker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:20:45pm

re: #291 TedStriker

I love most of Croce's stuff, but I'm a bit more selective on Denver; I could listen to "Rocky Mountain High", "Annie's Song", and "The Eagle and the Hawk" all day, but can do without most of the rest of his catalog

Heh, I was just listening to "Thank God I'm a Country Boy" a couple of days ago.

304 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:20:49pm

re: #298 Vicious Babushka

Is Denise Pronti a parody account?

Could be. Off hand I'd say no.

305 Varek Raith  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:21:12pm

As an atheist I demand to be insulted as a destroyer of the US!
Stop ignoring us!
Or some such.
XD

306 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:22:06pm

The GOP tcot and the rwnj are busy complaining about the House caving, and yet Obama is essentially making permanent the Bush 2001 tax cuts on everyone but those making more than $400k. That's a pretty big accomplishment in a losing argument. They'll treat that as a huge loss, but it's a pretty significant thing.

In fact, if Obama were a GOPer, they'd be touting his latest achievement because it stands on the shoulders of an earlier GOP ideal - the individual mandate that was adopted as part of the Obamacare plan (right before the GOP and right wing turned the individual mandate in to a power grab/overreach argument that failed in the courts).

Indeed, those two particular items rebut any notion that Obama is a radical leftist, communist, socialist, or any other nonsense coming from the right. Far from a radical, Obama is governing from the center-right. Two of his significant legislative achievements (3 if you count the 2009 tax act), have been to extend ideals previously championed by the right.

If you're on the left, it's no wonder they're feeling down. Even when they manage to avert a real fiscal disaster, they see a loss on the long run.

307 Kragar  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:22:06pm

Because prior to Obama, no US president gave any military support to Egypt apparently.

"For each year of 1976-2002, Israel was the largest recipient of U.S. military aid. Egypt was second-largest 1981-2002. Since 2002, Israel and Egypt have remained among the top four annual recipients of U.S. military aid."

308 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:22:13pm

re: #300 HappyWarrior

People speaking without talking
People hearing without llistening
People writing songs never shared

Poetry

"Scarborough Fair/Canticle", "The Boxer", "Mrs. Robinson".

Good songs.

309 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:22:30pm

re: #278 Gus

It is at this time we should thank the Jewish people who voted for Obama twice. You might well have annihilated your people

This is only one reason the GOP pisses me off to no end. I cannot fathom the lack of perspective and hatred that the Party has evolved into.
It just pisses me off and even if they come up with a good idea every so often I just don't care.

310 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:23:21pm

re: #290 Gus

Alouette. I think this one might make your derp list.

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Derped.

I'm not sure about the Denise Pronti, I think it might be a parody account.

311 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:23:32pm

re: #300 HappyWarrior

People speaking without talking
People hearing without llistening
People writing songs never shared

Poetry

And rhythm.

312 Varek Raith  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:23:34pm

re: #307 Kragar

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Because prior to Obama, no US president gave any military support to Egypt apparently.

"For each year of 1976-2002, Israel was the largest recipient of U.S. military aid. Egypt was second-largest 1981-2002. Since 2002, Israel and Egypt have remained among the top four annual recipients of U.S. military aid."

This person is a complete and utter moron.

313 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:23:42pm

re: #229 dragonath

DOOM DOOM

Drums, drums in the deep?

They are coming!

314 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:24:08pm

re: #145 dragonfire1981

OT, I know there are plenty of music connoisseurs here on LGF and I'm wondering if there are any other Gordon Lightfoot fans on here?

I know Lightfoot is a Canadian institution but I know he's not unheard of in the U.S.

I really love his voice and his music. Really genuine heartfelt stuff. "If you could read my mind" has always been one of my favourite songs.

Can't live near Lake Superior and not know him.

315 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:24:49pm

re: #313 Dark_Falcon

They are coming!

We cannot get out!

316 Kragar  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:24:54pm

re: #310 Vicious Babushka

Derped.

I'm not sure about the Denise Pronti, I think it might be a parody account.

No, I think its just a complete asshole.

317 Varek Raith  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:25:02pm

re: #307 Kragar

Someone please tweet Iran-Contra to this person.
XD

318 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:25:04pm

re: #303 CuriousLurker

Heh, I was just listening to "Thank God I'm a Country Boy" a couple of days ago.

That's the first Denver song I got to know well since the Orioles play it during the seventh inning stretch and I've been going to Orioles games for as long as I can remember. It was funny. I remember being 7 and seeing one of those ads for the best of Denver. I made fun of it because the music sounded tacky to me but it's hit me later that he was a good singer and songwriter. I was watching The Guard and they ended the movie with Leaving on a Jet Plane. Found myself singing- "So kiss me and smile for me, Tell me that you'll never let me go, Hold me like you'll never let go." Can really relate to Take Me Back Country Roads since I live near the Blue Ridge mountains and the Shenandoah.

319 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:25:04pm
320 CuriousLurker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:25:32pm

re: #279 wrenchwench

FYI: If I'm ever in your neck of the woods and come over for pie, I'm bringing all my Gordon Lightfoot, John Denver, and Carpenters songs with me, and I'm going to practically bathe in patchouli. Maybe I'll bring some patchouli incense too. //

321 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:25:42pm

re: #312 Varek Raith

We'd just have to ignore that it was the US that helped Israel with funding and development of Iron Dome, and sold them the Patriot systems that are now helping defend against the potential rocket attacks coming from Gaza and/or Lebanon. Casualties in the last round of fighting were lower due to Israel's deployment of Iron Dome. And Iron Dome wouldn't have been possible without US support.

But I guess we have to ignore that. Well, some will in order to advance asinine arguments that Obama=bad.

322 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:25:44pm

re: #307 Kragar

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Because prior to Obama, no US president gave any military support to Egypt apparently.

"For each year of 1976-2002, Israel was the largest recipient of U.S. military aid. Egypt was second-largest 1981-2002. Since 2002, Israel and Egypt have remained among the top four annual recipients of U.S. military aid."

Gave?

323 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:26:47pm

re: #308 TedStriker

"Scarborough Fair/Canticle", "The Boxer", "Mrs. Robinson".

Good songs.

Yep, I like "April Come She Will" a lot too. So much good music out there. It's a pity I won't hear it all. I really envy musicians because I know I'll never be a good one but I am content to be an observer.

324 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:27:37pm

re: #323 HappyWarrior

Yep, I like "April Come She Will" a lot too. So much good music out there. It's a pity I won't hear it all. I really envy musicians because I know I'll never be a good one but I am content to be an observer.

I forgot "Homeward Bound".

Gahhhhhhhh...

325 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:27:42pm

re: #278 Gus

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If Denise Pronti isn't a parody account, the she is, quite possibly, even dumber than "Dim" Jim Hoft.

headdesk

326 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:28:09pm

re: #307 Kragar

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Because prior to Obama, no US president gave any military support to Egypt apparently.

"For each year of 1976-2002, Israel was the largest recipient of U.S. military aid. Egypt was second-largest 1981-2002. Since 2002, Israel and Egypt have remained among the top four annual recipients of U.S. military aid."

I wonder if she knows that those weapons sales are part of the deal made with Egypt to secure that nation making peace with Israel. I wonder how she'd react if she knew that while some arms sales were made under Jimmy Carter, it was Ronald Reagan who allowed Egypt wider access to American arms, including M60A1 tanks far superior to Egypt's previous Soviet designs, in order to keep Egypt out of the Soviet fold as the Cold War heated up again in the 1980's.

327 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:28:15pm

I still have more than 14 hours of that Big Beethoven Box to listen to.

328 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:28:19pm

re: #324 TedStriker

I forgot "Homeward Bound".

Gahhhhhhhh...

I was listening to that at a bus station in Galway, Ireland waiting for a bus to take me to Dublin. Really hit the time well.

329 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:28:59pm

re: #323 HappyWarrior

Yep, I like "April Come She Will" a lot too. So much good music out there. It's a pity I won't hear it all. I really envy musicians because I know I'll never be a good one but I am content to be an observer.

It took me four days to hitchhike from Saginaw.

330 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:30:21pm

re: #277 wilburs

Don't anybody say ANYTHING against The Carpenters!

I will happily admit to having Superstar in my main music playlist.

331 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:31:14pm

re: #329 Vicious Babushka

It took me four days to hitchhike from Saginaw.

I've gone to look for America.
Damn Paul Simon can work magic with words.

332 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:32:04pm

re: #318 HappyWarrior

That's the first Denver song I got to know well since the Orioles play it during the seventh inning stretch and I've been going to Orioles games for as long as I can remember. It was funny. I remember being 7 and seeing one of those ads for the best of Denver. I made fun of it because the music sounded tacky to me but it's hit me later that he was a good singer and songwriter. I was watching The Guard and they ended the movie with Leaving on a Jet Plane. Found myself singing- "So kiss me and smile for me, Tell me that you'll never let me go, Hold me like you'll never let go." Can really relate to Take Me Back Country Roads since I live near the Blue Ridge mountains and the Shenandoah.

I like one of Denver's recordings of "Leaving on a Jet Plane" (he wrote the song and recorded it more than once, a "slow" version and a more uptempo version; I prefer the "slow" version), but Peter, Paul, and Mary's version is the best, IMO

333 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:32:31pm

re: #317 Varek Raith

Someone please tweet Iran-Contra to this person.
XD

During Iran-Contra, we were actually selling the Improved TOW ATGM* (I-TOW) to both Iran and Egypt at the same time.

* TOW = Tube launched, Optically tracked, Wire guided.
ATGM = Anti-Tank Guided Missile.

334 wilburs  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:32:32pm

re: #330 William Barnett-Lewis

I will happily admit to having Superstar in my main music playlist.

The Sonic Youth version is great, it the only thing they ever did that I like

335 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:32:45pm

Oh, what have I done?
Why have I done it?

336 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:33:53pm

re: #332 TedStriker

I like one of Denver's recordings of "Leaving on a Jet Plane" (he wrote the song and recorded it more than once, the "slow" version and a more uptempo version; I prefer the "slow" version), but Peter, Paul, and Mary's version is the best, IMO

Don't think I've heard the uptempo version. I've heard the PPM version though. Agree though. It's very good.

337 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:34:28pm

re: #323 HappyWarrior

Yep, I like "April Come She Will" a lot too. So much good music out there. It's a pity I won't hear it all. I really envy musicians because I know I'll never be a good one but I am content to be an observer.

My parents played music during dinner while I was growing up. Mix of classical, Broadway, and folk pop. So I was exposed to John Denver, Jim Croce, Simon & Garfunkel, plus a lot more from a fairly early age.

NPR had something on the remastered CD of Simon and Garfunkel released a few years ago, so I went out and picked it up. Another group of songs that pop up on my iTunes playlists.

Also heard a Mumford and Sons cover of the "The Boxer" while traveling over the holidays. An interesting variation in giving an Irish folk accent to an excellent song.

338 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:35:14pm

re: #320 CuriousLurker

FYI: If I'm ever in your neck of the woods and come over for pie, I'm bringing all my Gordon Lightfoot, John Denver, and Carpenters songs with me, and I'm going to practically bathe in patchouli. Maybe I'll bring some patchouli incense too. //

I'm not saying what could be in the crust.....

;)

339 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:36:16pm

re: #337 Feline Fearless Leader

My parents played music during dinner while I was growing up. Mix of classical, Broadway, and folk pop. So I was exposed to John Denver, Jim Croce, Simon & Garfunkel, plus a lot more from a fairly early age.

NPR had something on the remastered CD of Simon and Garfunkel released a few years ago, so I went out and picked it up. Another group of songs that pop up on my iTunes playlists.

Also heard a Mumford and Sons cover of the "The Boxer" while traveling over the holidays. An interesting variation in giving an Irish folk accent to an excellent song.

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That's why I like cover bands at bars. Cool to see people do their own stuff but I like seeing artists interpret the work of others too.

340 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:36:20pm

re: #329 Vicious Babushka

It took me four days to hitchhike from Saginaw.

"Counting the cars on the NJ Turnpike" was a catch phrase joke with some fraternity brothers of mine. Bunch of civil engineers, and one did end up working for NJ DOT.

341 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:36:35pm

re: #332 TedStriker

I like one of Denver's recordings of "Leaving on a Jet Plane" (he wrote the song and recorded it more than once, a "slow" version and a more uptempo version; I prefer the "slow" version), but Peter, Paul, and Mary's version is the best, IMO

Yes.

If there's a good version on YouTube, Please post it!

342 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:36:43pm
343 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:37:37pm

re: #336 HappyWarrior

Don't think I've heard the uptempo version. I've heard the PPM version though. Agree though. It's very good.

It's not uptempo by much, but Denver's slightly sped-up version on "Leaving on a Jet Plane" is noticeably different from his main "slow" version.

344 BeenHereAwhile  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:39:42pm

re: #285 BeenHereAwhile

Very talented songwriter & performer.

Little known fact; the "Sunshine" sung about in "Sunshine you better take care," is the same Susan Smith, who gave John Belushi his last speed ball.

AUGHH!!

Editing on an iPhone fail.

The song is "Sundown," not Sunshine.

But the song is about Susan Smith.

345 dragonath  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:40:25pm

True story-

Elton John's stage name comes from a guy named Elton Dean, and Long John Baldry.

Coincidentally, the latter was the voice actor for ...Dr. Ivo Robotnik.

346 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:40:26pm

re: #337 Feline Fearless Leader

Also heard a Mumford and Sons cover of the "The Boxer" while traveling over the holidays. An interesting variation in giving an Irish folk accent to an excellent song.

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Paul Simon is credited on that track. I'm guessing he played and provided backing vocals.

347 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:40:34pm

re: #334 wilburs

The Sonic Youth version is great, it the only thing they ever did that I like

Hrm. A tribute album. I'll have to track it down.

348 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:41:30pm
349 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:41:40pm

O_o

350 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:41:47pm

Because they're the biggest source of government bloat and graft, dont'cha know:

351 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:41:49pm

o/

352 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:41:56pm

re: #339 HappyWarrior

That's why I like cover bands at bars. Cool to see people do their own stuff but I like seeing artists interpret the work of others too.

My brother and I had a conversation about musical covers over the holidays as well. You need to do a cover "different" than the best known versions since otherwise you are often coming across as a sub-par imitation. And then you get some covers that are coming out of left field as compared to the original (or best known) version. I recall a mid-80s cover of "Kashmir" that was totally instrumental and different tempo as well - but can't recall the band.

And then there are things like this:

353 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:42:32pm

re: #350 Lidane

Because they're the biggest source of government bloat and graft, dont'cha know:

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I don't get it. So many of these right wingers have a bazillion followers.

354 wilburs  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:42:47pm

re: #347 William Barnett-Lewis

Hrm. A tribute album. I'll have to track it down.

It's well worth it

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

355 b_sharp  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:43:11pm

re: #348 Gus

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The derp must flow.

356 CuriousLurker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:43:20pm

re: #318 HappyWarrior

That's the first Denver song I got to know well since the Orioles play it during the seventh inning stretch and I've been going to Orioles games for as long as I can remember. It was funny. I remember being 7 and seeing one of those ads for the best of Denver. I made fun of it because the music sounded tacky to me but it's hit me later that he was a good singer and songwriter. I was watching The Guard and they ended the movie with Leaving on a Jet Plane. Found myself singing- "So kiss me and smile for me, Tell me that you'll never let me go, Hold me like you'll never let go." Can really relate to Take Me Back Country Roads since I live near the Blue Ridge mountains and the Shenandoah.

I liked his songs because they were (mostly) cheerful. With a few exceptions, I tend to like stuff that either makes me feel happy or has some kind of meaningful message.

Exception #1

Exception #2

Exception #3

Heh, some years back I was in Jamaica, Queens on a Saturday on a stretch of Jamaica Avenue where there are a bunch of stores, always a lot of ppl walking around, and music is often piped into the street via loudspeakers. "Let's Get it On" came on and everybody just went crazy--there was much dancing & singing along in the street. Gotta love New York--it was one of those New York moments (anyone who's lived in NYC knows what those are).

357 Kragar  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:44:09pm

re: #352 Feline Fearless Leader

Or this:

358 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:45:10pm

re: #356 CuriousLurker

I liked his songs because they were (mostly) cheerful. With a few exceptions, I tend to like stuff that either makes me feel happy or has some kind of meaningful message.

Exception #1

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Heh, some years back I was in Jamaica, Queens on a Saturday on a stretch of Jamaica Avenue where there are a bunch of stores, always a lot of ppl walking around, and music is often piped into the street via loudspeakers. "Let's Get it On" came on and everybody just went crazy--there was much dancing & singing along in the street. Gotta love New York--it was one of those New York moments (anyone who's lived in NYC knows what those are).

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

359 dragonath  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:45:26pm

I see the final floor debate is starting on the House bill.

360 jaunte  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:45:46pm

re: #353 Gus

I don't get it. So many of these right wingers have a bazillion followers.

A lot of hers appear to be twitter junkmailers. Maybe she bought them.

361 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:45:54pm

Evening Lizardim. Back home again to start another work week. BLEH and so and and so forth. How go things from the bottom of the fiscal cliff?

362 Kragar  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:46:24pm

What heart and soul?

363 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:46:45pm

Sounds like Rep. Dreier is going to vote yes.

364 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:47:15pm

re: #362 Kragar

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What heart and soul?

Eleventy!

365 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:47:49pm

re: #352 Feline Fearless Leader

My brother and I had a conversation about musical covers over the holidays as well. You need to do a cover "different" than the best known versions since otherwise you are often coming across as a sub-par imitation. And then you get some covers that are coming out of left field as compared to the original (or best known) version. I recall a mid-80s cover of "Kashmir" that was totally instrumental and different tempo as well - but can't recall the band.

And then there are things like this:

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Yeah that's a good point. I think that's why that Johnny Cash cover of Hurt is so popular because he really did his own thing with it.

366 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:48:03pm

re: #348 Gus

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Reminds me of the kind of propaganda put out by Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy.

/Sorry, but the sickness was finally strong enough to force the Godwin, though I contend it is not a violation.

367 Varek Raith  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:48:07pm

re: #362 Kragar

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What heart and soul?

In a soulgem I keep in the pantry.

368 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:48:11pm

re: #362 Kragar

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What heart and soul?

Heart of Stone and Fillet of Soul (with Tartar Sauce).
/

369 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:48:39pm

re: #363 Gus

Sounds like Rep. Dreier is going to vote yes.

Ah...

On February 29, 2012, Dreier announced that upon completion of his current term as a member of the United States Congress that he would not be seeking reelection.

370 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:48:47pm

re: #356 CuriousLurker

I liked his songs because they were (mostly) cheerful. With a few exceptions, I tend to like stuff that either makes me feel happy or has some kind of meaningful message.

Exception #1

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Heh, some years back I was in Jamaica, Queens on a Saturday on a stretch of Jamaica Avenue where there are a bunch of stores, always a lot of ppl walking around, and music is often piped into the street via loudspeakers. "Let's Get it On" came on and everybody just went crazy--there was much dancing & singing along in the street. Gotta love New York--it was one of those New York moments (anyone who's lived in NYC knows what those are).

I made a radio ad for the shop with #3 as the music. Exceeded the 30 seconds, but the station played it anyway.

371 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:48:52pm

re: #362 Kragar

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What heart and soul?

Okay, Bryan why don't you run for office because you think you can do things better. Oh wait, armchair general I forgot and one who doesn't know a damn thing about the political process.

372 b_sharp  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:49:11pm

re: #362 Kragar

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What heart and soul?

Fischer's pecker.

373 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:49:24pm

re: #362 Kragar

What damage? The GOP just got the 2001 cuts made permanent for everyone under $400/450k. And they can get back to working on lowering the rates for them too when the new Congress begins business.

The GOP will be back to their old tricks, with a few new tricks too. And they've got two months to make mayhem with the debt ceiling.

374 Kragar  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:49:57pm

re: #371 HappyWarrior

Okay, Bryan why don't you run for office because you think you can do things better. Oh wait, armchair general I forgot and one who doesn't know a damn thing about the political process.

Bryan would have to win, because the most conservative candidate always wins, right? What is he so scared of?

375 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:50:07pm

More apocalyptic hysteria from Whirled Nut Drooling (freeper re-post):

Iranian scientists, working under orders from the radicals running the Islamic regime, have genetically altered microbial agents in a nightmarish scheme to bring the West to its knees.

According to a source in the Revolutionary Guards intelligence unit with knowledge of Iran’s microbial research and development, the scientists, with Russian and North Korean help, currently possess eight extremely dangerous microbial agents that, if unleashed, could kill millions of people.

As reported exclusively on WND on Dec. 16, the source revealed the existence of a plant in Marzanabad, Iran, where 12 Russian and 28 Iranian scientists are working on microbial agents for bombs. At that time, the source disclosed that Iran was working on 18 agents, with four completed. He has now provided information that with work at two other plants, Iran has created a total of eight microbial agents, with research on insects to be used as the vector to infect the societies of its enemies.

The eight agents are anthrax, encephalitis (the blueprint of this virus, Venezuelan Equine Encephalitis, was provided by Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez in an agreement two years ago with the Islamic regime), yellow grain (developed with the help of North Korea), SARS, Ebola, cholera, smallpox and plague.

Whirled Nut has a source in the Revolutionary Guards? I hope they are patriotic enough to share the take with the CIA. Somehow I doubt it though.

376 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:50:46pm

re: #374 Kragar

Bryan would have to win, because the most conservative candidate always wins, right? What is he so scared of?

Heh true. Guy like that probably has a few skeletons in the old closet.

377 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:51:25pm
378 Varek Raith  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:51:48pm

re: #375 Shiplord Kirel

More apocalyptic hysteria from Whirled Nut Drooling (freeper re-post):

Whirled Nut has a source in the Revolutionary Guards? I hope they are patriotic enough to share the take with the CIA. Somehow I doubt it though.

Bio weapons are notoriously unreliable and unpredictable.
What nonsense.
XD

379 jaunte  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:52:29pm

Newtnuggets.

380 b_sharp  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:52:33pm

re: #375 Shiplord Kirel

More apocalyptic hysteria from Whirled Nut Drooling (freeper re-post):

Whirled Nut has a source in the Revolutionary Guards? I hope they are patriotic enough to share the take with the CIA. Somehow I doubt it though.

Which plague?

381 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:52:40pm

re: #375 Shiplord Kirel

Whirled Nut has a source in the Revolutionary Guards? I hope they are patriotic enough to share the take with the CIA. Somehow I doubt it though.

Isn't there some deranged nutbar RWNJ who claims that he was a former terrorist or something? My guess is WND's "source" is about as credible as that guy.

382 CuriousLurker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:52:55pm

re: #330 William Barnett-Lewis

I will happily admit to having Superstar in my main music playlist.

Oh, gosh! You just made me remember "Jesus Christ Superstar" and "Tommy". Nostalgia. Heh, whaddaya know--the entire movie is on YouTube.

Jesus Christ Superstar (full movie)

Pinball Wizard

Acid Queen

383 Kragar  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:53:11pm

re: #380 b_sharp

Which plague?

The probably have a bible code with all the details.

384 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:53:51pm

re: #365 HappyWarrior

Yeah that's a good point. I think that's why that Johnny Cash cover of Hurt is so popular because he really did his own thing with it.

It seems a good way to start is find either a Dylan or Paul Simon song and go from there.


(Dylan)
(Simon)
385 Kragar  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:54:08pm

re: #381 Lidane

Isn't there some deranged nutbar RWNJ who claims that he was a former terrorist or something? My guess is WND's "source" is about as credible as that guy.

There are 2 or 3 at least, one for the Evangelicals, another one that caters to the Birchers.

386 CuriousLurker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:54:42pm

re: #338 wrenchwench

I'm not saying what could be in the crust.....

;)

Well, I won't bring all that stuff, but only if you promise to make "special" brownies. LOL

387 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:55:40pm

re: #375 Shiplord Kirel

More apocalyptic hysteria from Whirled Nut Drooling (freeper re-post):

Whirled Nut has a source in the Revolutionary Guards? I hope they are patriotic enough to share the take with the CIA. Somehow I doubt it though.

Iran 'leaks' rumors like this, is the more likely scenario. By 'leaks' to nutbars, they can generate more people who will be afraid of war with Iran, which might keep other nations from attacking at all.

388 Kragar  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:55:55pm
389 Varek Raith  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:56:12pm

So, I guess nuclear weapons aren't scary enough for the wingnuts.
Got to got for weaponized ebola (lol, yeah right) and the like.

390 CuriousLurker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:56:39pm

re: #358 Gus

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

Yes!

391 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:56:46pm

Holy smokes. Rep. Slaughter is 83 years old! Listen to her go!

392 Interesting Times  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:57:47pm
393 Kragar  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:57:49pm

LOL

394 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:58:14pm

re: #388 Kragar

395 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:58:32pm

re: #393 Kragar

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LOL

Not sure if serious. But lol noentheless.

396 b_sharp  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:58:36pm

re: #389 Varek Raith

So, I guess nuclear weapons aren't scary enough for the wingnuts.
Got to got for weaponized ebola (lol, yeah right) and the like.

The Iranians will likely load their nukes with bio-weapons too, just to make sure.

If'n I has to 'splain the joke in this, somebody's gettin' a slap upside the head.

397 jaunte  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:58:48pm

Kulluk drilling rig accident stokes fresh fears on Arctic drilling

The 29-year-old Kulluk conical drilling unit was unmanned when it plowed into rocks on the southeast side of Sitkalidak Island Monday night in Alaska, and there were no major injuries.

But Coast Guard and Shell officials were still battling strong Tuesday to assess the full extent of environmental damage and figure out a plan for recovering the stranded rig.

About 139,000 gallons of ultra-low sulfur diesel and 12,000 gallons of lubrication oil and hydraulic fluid are estimated to be on board the vessel, mostly locked in the center of the double-hulled rig.

398 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:59:00pm

Conservatives clearly haven't learned a damn thing.

399 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:59:01pm

re: #389 Varek Raith

So, I guess nuclear weapons aren't scary enough for the wingnuts.
Got to got for weaponized ebola (lol, yeah right) and the like.

Well, weaponized Ebola was part of Iran's plot in the Tom Clancy novel Executive Orders. But in the real world, Iran would much prefer a nuke, since a properly constructed nuke is much harder than a bio-weapon to defend against and is far less of a threat to your own side.

400 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:59:22pm

I like Dreier. Here at least.

401 Varek Raith  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:59:34pm

re: #396 b_sharp

The Iranians will likely load their nukes with bio-weapons too, just to make sure.

If'n I has to 'splain the joke in this, somebody's gettin' a slap upside the head.

Lol.

402 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 5:59:43pm

re: #357 Kragar

Or this:

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Or this:

403 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:00:07pm

Wonder if Frank Wolf is going to vote yay or nay. He's right wing but not totally nuts.

404 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:00:47pm

re: #393 Kragar

[Embedded content]

LOL

He forgot that West lost, one of two Democratic pickups in Florida (the other being Allan "Lying Weasel" Grayson).

405 Varek Raith  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:00:49pm

re: #399 Dark_Falcon

Well, weaponized Ebola was part of Iran's plot in the Tom Clancy novel Executive Orders. But in the real world, Iran would much prefer a nuke, since a properly constructed nuke is much harder than a bio-weapon to defend against and is far less of a threat to your own side.

I bet you a weaponized ebola weapon will kill far fewer people than if those bombs were loaded with HEs.

406 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:01:28pm
407 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:01:59pm

re: #406 Lidane

Boo!

408 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:02:09pm

re: #404 Dark_Falcon

He forgot that West lost, one of two Democratic pickups in Florida (the other being Allan "Lying Weasel" Grayson).

That's why I wasn't sure if it was serious. Even if West had won though, a second termer who's never even headed so much as a subcommittee running the House? Yeah good luck with that. Cantor would be a train wreck. West would be that times a 1000.

409 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:03:05pm

Not sure if serious:

410 Kragar  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:03:05pm

re: #395 HappyWarrior

Not sure if serious. But lol noentheless.

Its funnier if he is serious.

411 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:04:10pm

re: #410 Kragar

Its funnier if he is serious.

Well that goes without saying.

412 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:04:47pm

re: #405 Varek Raith

I bet you a weaponized ebola weapon will kill far fewer people than if those bombs were loaded with HEs.

Too many variables would have to be accounted for before the bet could even be made. It could go either way, depending on where and against who the weapons were delivered, their construction and reliability...

Yes folks, I'm a board gamer.

413 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:04:51pm

re: #409 Lidane

Not sure if serious:

[Embedded content]

I have the image of an abyss with the creaking rope bridge with the broken planks on it. And a rising wind.
/

414 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:04:58pm

re: #407 Dark_Falcon

Boo!

There are a lot of conservatives on Twitter saying exactly that. The base isn't happy. AT ALL. 2014 just got interesting if the bill passes the House.

415 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:06:05pm

Er, what? I wasn't aware that Netanyahu would go to Bible study:

416 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:06:35pm

re: #414 Lidane

There are a lot of conservatives on Twitter saying exactly that. The base isn't happy. AT ALL. 2014 just got interesting if the bill passes the House.

Primary challenges galore. Conservatives are never happy. And it's going to end up biting them in the ass when they become more a minority. It's true that there are more conservatives than liberals in this country but it's also true that there are more moderates than both of them and moderate is arguably closer to liberal these days more and more especially on the hot button social issues.

417 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:07:11pm

Woo hoo. This is actually pretty good tonight.

418 jaunte  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:07:16pm

re: #415 Lidane

Auto-translate for Evangelicals.

419 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:08:00pm

re: #417 Gus

Woo hoo. This is actually pretty good tonight.

What is, Gus?

420 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:08:24pm

re: #413 Feline Fearless Leader

I have the image of an abyss with the creaking rope bridge with the broken planks on it. And a rising wind.
/

[Indiana Jones raises his sword]

"Mola Ram, prepare to meet Kali... in Hell!"

[he slashes one of the rope railings and the bridge is cut in half]

/Sorry, but it fits well.

421 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:08:59pm

re: #419 TedStriker

What is, Gus?

The House. :D

422 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:09:21pm

re: #412 Dark_Falcon

Just so you're not a bored gamer. Everyone knows those are what's really dangerous... "How about a nice game of chess?"

423 b_sharp  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:09:21pm

re: #409 Lidane

Not sure if serious:

[Embedded content]

I think B@bette's implants are leaking.

424 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:09:35pm

re: #415 Lidane

Er, what? I wasn't aware that Netanyahu would go to Bible study:

[Embedded content]

It's a Torah class.

425 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:10:03pm

re: #419 TedStriker

What is, Gus?

[Link: www.c-span.org...]

426 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:10:34pm

re: #422 William Barnett-Lewis

Just so you're not a bored gamer. Everyone knows those are what's really dangerous... "How about a nice game of chess?"

Only if they start telling WOPRs.

///

427 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:10:41pm

Bryan Fischer really believes that Mitt Romney lost because he wasn't "conservative" enough. I arf you not.

428 Varek Raith  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:11:20pm

re: #412 Dark_Falcon

Too many variables would have to be accounted for before the bet could even be made. It could go either way, depending on where and against who the weapons were delivered, their construction and reliability...

Yes folks, I'm a board gamer.

Which is why you'd wanna go the sure fire route of explosives.
Not many variables there.
And far easier.

429 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:11:21pm

re: #423 b_sharp

I think B@bette's implants are leaking.

Into her brain.

430 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:11:53pm

re: #426 Dark_Falcon

Only if they start telling WOPRs.

///

So what games do you play?

431 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:11:58pm

Tell me again how he's a reasonable conservative and not a hack:

432 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:12:01pm

re: #427 Vicious Babushka

Bryan Fischer really believes that Mitt Romney lost because he wasn't "conservative" enough. I arf you not.

Bryan Fischer lives in Rush Limbaugh's alternative reality.

433 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:12:05pm

re: #426 Dark_Falcon

Only if they start telling WOPRs.

///

Ouch.

434 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:12:59pm

re: #424 Vicious Babushka

It's a Torah class.

Ok, that makes sense. It's just that when I think of Bible study, I think of Christian churches and potluck dinners.

435 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:13:14pm

re: #427 Vicious Babushka

Bryan Fischer really believes that Mitt Romney lost because he wasn't "conservative" enough. I arf you not.

Of course he does. There's a lot of people who believe that. They believed it about John McCain in 2008. Makes me wish just once and for all, they'd finally get a nominee they like and then we'd get to see said person landslided and we'd hopefully stop hearing that nonsense. The right wing pundits were really making a lot of hay out of the majority of polled Americans voting saying they preferred less government. This is true but what those pundits were ignoring is people were talking about less government in things like gay marriage, pot legalization, abortion rights, etc. Things that said conservative pundits are just fine with the government being involved in.

436 Varek Raith  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:13:26pm

re: #426 Dark_Falcon

Only if they start telling WOPRs.

///

With heatsinks.

437 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:13:28pm

re: #430 William Barnett-Lewis

So what games do you play?

Mostly Battletech.

438 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:13:32pm

I get it now. Evolving smaller brains and simpler thought patterns in order to be less attractive to the zombies! Brilliant!
///

439 aagcobb  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:13:45pm

re: #413 Feline Fearless Leader

I have the image of an abyss with the creaking rope bridge with the broken planks on it. And a rising wind.
/

Image: Sorcerer77poster.jpg

440 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:14:43pm

re: #439 aagcobb

Image: Sorcerer77poster.jpg

They need a bigger bridge.

441 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:15:21pm

re: #431 Lidane

Tell me again how he's a reasonable conservative and not a hack:

[Embedded content]

That could well be true, but why would anyone be surprised? Barack Obama wanting tilt the nation's political balance to favor his party and his policy preferences isn't shocking, it's normal and to be expected.

442 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:16:11pm

Sunsetting a tax-cut isn't exactly a tax hike.

443 Usually refered to as anyways  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:16:59pm

re: #441 Dark_Falcon

Barack Obama wanting tilt the nation's political balance to favor his party and his policy preferences isn't shocking, it's normal and to be expected.

Yes Dark, the 99%

444 jaunte  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:17:24pm

re: #442 Gus

Fails to completely eliminate the doofusit.

445 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:17:25pm

Whoa!

446 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:17:32pm

CLIMATE CHANGE!

447 b_sharp  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:17:50pm

re: #446 Gus

CLIMATE CHANGE!

WHERE??!?

448 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:17:55pm

Rep. David Dreier (CA-R) just said climate change!!

449 b_sharp  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:18:26pm

re: #448 Gus

Rep. David Dreier (CA-R) just said climate change!!

Was he pelted with rotten tomatoes?

450 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:18:35pm
451 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:19:09pm

re: #449 b_sharp

Was he pelted with rotten tomatoes?

He's retiring on Thursday. So, the usual.

452 b_sharp  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:19:16pm

re: #450 Lidane

...

Say what?

453 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:19:29pm

re: #437 Dark_Falcon

Mostly Battletech.

Ah, that's what I thought I remembered. I'm more into actual hex and counter games, 20th century topics preferred.

454 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:20:02pm

NO SHIT

455 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:20:14pm

re: #443 Usually refered to as anyways

Yes Dark, the 99%

Huh?

456 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:20:29pm

re: #452 b_sharp

Say what?

I think that would be ended with ///' around here.

457 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:20:55pm

One day Santorum will retire and suddenly he'll be, "you see, I'm really an atheist and study Darwin."

//

458 b_sharp  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:21:17pm

re: #457 Gus

One day Santorum will retire and suddenly he'll be, "you see, I'm really an atheist and study Darwin."

//

OMG!

459 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:22:17pm

re: #458 b_sharp

OMG!

O. M. G.

460 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:22:58pm

re: #442 Gus

Sunsetting a tax-cut isn't exactly a tax hike.

Yes it is. COMMUNIST.

461 b_sharp  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:23:23pm

re: #459 Gus

O. M. G.

That was such a Rush!

462 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:23:51pm

re: #461 b_sharp

That was such a Rush!

It's New Years Night. :O

463 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:24:05pm

re: #457 Gus

One day Santorum will retire and suddenly he'll be, "you see, I'm really an atheist and study Darwin."

//

It's going to come out that a lot of them could give two shits about gay marriage and abortion but were using it to get elected. You saw that a lot with Southern politicians who opposed Civil Rights. And frankly, it's just as bad and in some ways worse than sincere opposition.

464 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:24:13pm

Drinking Canadian Mist too. So I'm part Canadian and very cheap.

465 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:24:19pm

re: #280 HappyWarrior

Don't really know Lightfoot that well but I know Denver and Croce. I think OperationOperator (That's Not The Way It Feels) is one of my favorite heartbreak songs of all time.

ftfy

Unless it's a song about surgery gone bad.

466 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:25:52pm

re: #465 wheat-dogghazi

ftfy

Unless it's a song about surgery gone bad.

Ha thanks.

467 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:25:54pm

It's basically like owning a business and doing good and giving your employees a bonus, weekly, during that time. If I stop when business declines, no more weekly bonuses. That's not a pay cut.

468 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:27:06pm

More conservative love for the GOP:

469 BeenHereAwhile  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:27:33pm

re: #352 Feline Fearless Leader

My brother and I had a conversation about musical covers over the holidays as well. You need to do
Back in the day, we would go to a venue to hear a new band trying out to be signed to our label. 
Some of them would make the worst possible showcase mistake of covering song(s) of one of our label's more popular bands. 
Instant turnoff to the label executives who decided the artistic viability of the showcased band.  a cover "different" than the best known versions since otherwise you are often coming across as a sub-par imitation. And then you get some covers that are coming out of left field as compared to the original (or best known) version. I recall a mid-80s cover of "Kashmir" that was totally instrumental and different tempo as well - but can't recall the band.

And then there are things like this:

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Back in the day, we would go to a venue to hear a new band trying out to be signed to our label. 
Some of them would make the worst possible showcase mistake of covering song(s) of one of our label's more popular bands. 
Instant turnoff to the label executives who decided the artistic viability of the showcased band. 

470 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:30:29pm

re: #468 Lidane

More conservative love for the GOP:

[Embedded content]

QQ some more, RWNJ fuckheads.

Party Over Country, my ass.

471 compound_Idaho  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:30:46pm

re: #467 Gus

It's basically like owning a business and doing good and giving your employees a bonus, weekly, during that time. If I stop when business declines, no more weekly bonuses. That's not a pay cut.

From the business owner's perspective you would be correct.

472 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:30:54pm

re: #468 Lidane

More conservative love for the GOP:

[Embedded content]

Have to admit while I am not high on libertarianism. Conservatives thinking that the libertarians will want to work with them is laughable. The libertarians I know pretty much see groups like Heritage and the GOP establishment as totally fucked up. They have no love for Obama but that doesn't mean they'd align with socon nuts simply because of some symmetry on economics.

473 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:30:57pm

re: #467 Gus

It's basically like owning a business and doing good and giving your employees a bonus, weekly, during that time. If I stop when business declines, no more weekly bonuses. That's not a pay cut.

That's a great analogy, Gus, but most people would see it as a pay cut because they would put that "bonus" in the wrong frame of reference.

474 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:32:00pm

re: #469 BeenHereAwhile

Back in the day, we would go to a venue to hear a new band trying out to be signed to our label. 
Some of them would make the worst possible showcase mistake of covering song(s) of one of our label's more popular bands. 
Instant turnoff to the label executives who decided the artistic viability of the showcased band. 

Yeah, I assume that when you're scouting talent that you want to hear something unique. Sounds like a neat job.

475 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:33:37pm

Only nay votes to proceed is from Democrats. 5.

476 Gus  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:35:04pm

4

477 Lidane  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:36:35pm

Outrage! This is making the rounds now:

478 b_sharp  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:39:52pm

re: #468 Lidane

More conservative love for the GOP:

[Embedded content]

Moral over political?

Isn't a skewed moral compass one of their political platforms?

479 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:41:36pm

re: #477 Lidane

Outrage! This is making the rounds now:

[Embedded content]

I doubt that works, even if Cullerton tries it. The same legislature rejected a less extreme bill in the fall. Something may come out of Newtown in Illinois, but it won't be anything moved through THAT fast. And its a rumor, too. I'll keep my eyes open, but until there's a bill its just a rumor.

480 b_sharp  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:41:40pm

re: #476 Gus

4

64

481 Mich-again  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:41:53pm

re: #472 HappyWarrior

Libertarians are republicans that are OK with pot.

482 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:45:41pm

re: #434 Lidane

Ok, that makes sense. It's just that when I think of Bible study, I think of Christian churches and potluck dinners.

Well you're not wrong to sense a disconnect there. The Christian "Bible" and the Tanakh are effectively not the same (no matter what evangelicals tell themselves). Common characters, but different structure, different translations, different interpretations, and of course the Bahble has the crappy Michael Bay-directed sequel tacked onto the end of the interesting-but-flawed Charlton Heston original.

(And before anybody accuses me of starting a holy war... Spare me... I don't care. I'm a hell-bound dirrty kuffar no matter where I go.)

483 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:45:49pm

re: #481 Mich-again

Libertarians are republicans that are OK with pot.

I can't agree with that. Maybe the libertarians I know are more on the left leaning side but I disagree with you. Now that said, libertarian positions on economics and foreign relations suck. They're also a tad unpractical on social issues too.

484 BeenHereAwhile  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 6:50:46pm

OK how do you delete a post using an iPhone?

My last post was horribly mangled, can't edit it.

The edit field comes up, but can't scroll it.

All the scrolling is done in the background, and not in the edit field.
And I'm having to log out to exit from edit mode.

So how do I delete a post?

485 b_sharp  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 7:16:48pm

re: #484 BeenHereAwhile

OK how do you delete a post using an iPhone?

My last post was horribly mangled, can't edit it.

The edit field comes up, but can't scroll it.

All the scrolling is done in the background, and not in the edit field.
And I'm having to log out to exit from edit mode.

So how do I delete a post?

No worries. I just scribbled it out with black permanent marker on my monitor. I can't see a thing.

486 BeenHereAwhile  Tue, Jan 1, 2013 7:23:36pm

re: #485 b_sharp

Dang!

Wish I'd thought of that.


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