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1 Bulworth  Mon, Jan 7, 2013 10:42:36am

So terrible of PBO to nominate Republican Chuck Hagel for Defense. Why won’t he nominate a Republican? /

3 Gus  Mon, Jan 7, 2013 10:49:03am

TGOP logic:

Chuck Hagel + Barack Obama = Bad
Chuck Hagel + George Bush = Good

4 Kragar  Mon, Jan 7, 2013 10:49:04am

The modern GOP, with all the sensibilities of a spiteful 6 year old.

5 Political Atheist  Mon, Jan 7, 2013 10:49:18am

Those who will wring their hands and fret about Hagel and his comments on one gay ambassador should read this response-

By AMBASSADOR MICHAEL GUEST | 1/6/13 9:09 PM EST

As an openly gay career Foreign Service officer and former ambassador, I find it disappointing that the debate over Chuck Hagel’s potential nomination as defense secretary has been sideswiped over — let’s face it — flatly intolerant comments Hagel made half a generation ago.

In 1998, James Hormel — a prominent philanthropist who served our country in many ways — became America’s first openly gay nominee to represent our country abroad as an ambassador.

Hagel opposed the nomination on grounds that Hormel is “aggressively gay” — for which Hagel has since apologized. Hormel has accepted that apology and seems willing to move on.

Why, then, should any of us freeze-frame Hagel’s comments 15 years ago — even as many of us, gay and straight, gladly acknowledge that America’s understanding of, and attitudes toward, sexual orientation and gender identity are changing rapidly?

[Link: www.politico.com…]

6 Kragar  Mon, Jan 7, 2013 10:50:11am

re: #3 Gus

TGOP logic:

Chuck Hagel + Barrack Obama = Bad
Chuck Hagel + George Bush = Good

“Chuck Hagel is so cool.”
“Obama likes him too.”
“Really? HAGEL IS TERRIBLE!”

7 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jan 7, 2013 10:50:56am

THE DRAMA!

8 Bulworth  Mon, Jan 7, 2013 10:52:08am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Fortunately Eric Cantor is in the House of People’s Deputies, rather than the U.S. Senate.

9 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 7, 2013 10:52:20am

re: #5 Political Atheist

The GOP will hold Hagel accountable for that statement even as the current GOP - and his top critics - hold to that very same position (anti-gay).

10 Kragar  Mon, Jan 7, 2013 10:52:24am

re: #7 FemNaziBitch

THE DRAMA!

Image: DramaLlama.jpg

11 Gus  Mon, Jan 7, 2013 10:53:32am
12 darthstar  Mon, Jan 7, 2013 10:53:44am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Eric Cantor: Hagel Is the Wrong Man for the Job

Eric Cantor is a turd eating fool.

13 HappyWarrior  Mon, Jan 7, 2013 10:57:21am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Eric Cantor: Hagel Is the Wrong Man for the Job

Eric Cantor is the wrong man for any job.

14 Lidane  Mon, Jan 7, 2013 11:10:53am

re: #4 Kragar

The modern GOP, with all the sensibilities of a spiteful 2 year old.

FTFY

15 biorabbi  Mon, Jan 7, 2013 2:51:23pm

Alan Dershowitz will testify(or wants to)regarding Hagel. I would like to point out that Dershowitz is a very, very strong supporter of the President. I have truly mixed emotions on Hagel. His past comments on Armenia and Israel both me, but they are not disqualifying for defense. Dershowitz is supposedly going to oppose Hagel on his Iranian stance. I don’t think Barney Frank who has expressed discontent with Hagel, or Congressmen Eliot Engel of New York are hardly flame-throwing conservatives. They’re not but truly fear Hagel at defense because of his expressed views on the Jewish/Israeli Lobby and on Israel and what that might suggest for the next four years regarding the US-Israeli defense relationship.

President Obama is looking, I believe, for the right guy to preside over a large reduction of defense spending.

Still, after seeing Hagel today, I do admire him and believe the President should get wide discretion unless there is something really off like substance abuse or something he could be blackmailed with. Hagel is a war hero with the same philosophy on security as the President. But, I would be upset if nobody asks him about what he was alleged to have said about the Armenian genocide, or why he would not sign a letter on behalf of Russian Jews after the fall of communism regarding anti-semitism. Again, these are not really policy questions, but they seem important from my vantage point.

In the final analysis, Hagel would not have been my pick, but I would vote to nominate him if that was my job. Rejections should occur in extreme cases and I see nothing like that here.


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