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Religious Caveman Bryan Fischer Fantasizes About Spankings From God

Spanking, God, hurricanes, kids, religion, bears
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American Family Association caveman Bryan Fischer spends a lot of time thinking about important subjects like spanking. Spanking by God, not by Bryan, of course. He never spanks his kids, except when he does, because they deserved it.

Spanking, God, kids, religion. A moist layer cake of Freudian dysfunction. And oh yes, bears. Mr. Fischer has a weird obsession with bears; he really hates them, especially grizzlies. Not sure where that fits in.

Related:
Bryan Fischer Fantasizes About ‘Stilettos, a Dress, and Dangly Earrings’

Also see:
Bryan Fischer: Get Rid of the ‘Curse’ That Is the Grizzly Bear

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497 comments

1 EPR-radar  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:39:26pm

And after the spankings, there is the oral sex?

2 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:42:09pm

he also has a weird obsession with bears; not sure where that fits in.”

Elisha? Maybe he’s going bald.

4 EPR-radar  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:44:48pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Bryan Fischer: Get Rid of the ‘Curse’ That Is the Grizzly Bear

My pet theory (with no evidence for it, unfortunately), is that a bear once scared the crap out of Bryan Fischer.

Naturally, the correct wingnut response to this deeply traumatic event is extermination of bears.

5 jaunte  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:45:07pm

Fischer remains un-humbled by the tornadoes that keep hitting his area.
[Link: www.google.com…]

[Link: www.srh.noaa.gov…]

6 Lidane  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:46:09pm

re: #4 EPR-radar

Naturally, the correct wingnut response to this deeply traumatic event is extermination of bears.

Only if Stephen Colbert leads the charge. Otherwise, it’s all wasted effort.

7 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:46:37pm

Bryan, you shameless slut! Yearning for spankings! And bears? Do you like bears in leather, Mr. Fischer? And what’s this about going out and about in drag? Are you trying to tell us something, Mr. Fischer?

Come out of the closet, Mr. Fischer.

8 Tigger2005  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:47:08pm

Perhaps Reagan’s “There is a bear in the woods” campaign commercial freaked Bryan out some 30-odd years ago.

9 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:47:24pm

I think I understand what the bear obsession is about.

Image: pedo_bear.jpg

10 Tigger2005  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:48:04pm

Ursine love is nothing to be ashamed of.

11 darthstar  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:48:14pm

re: #1 EPR-radar

And after the spankings, there is the oral sex?

No, but god will reach down with his infinite member and do you like a naughty nun.

12 engineer cat  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:48:17pm

“One human being is worth more than an infinite number of grizzly bears,” Fischer writes. “Another way to put it is that there is no number of live grizzlies worth one dead human being. If it’s a choice between grizzlies and humans, the grizzlies have to go. And it’s time.”

a wingnut blogger once told me that “we conservatives aren’t against ecology - we need to breathe clean air just as much as anybody else. but if it comes down to a choice between bambi and jobs, bambi must die!

i am reserving this for the title of a book

13 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:48:32pm

re: #4 EPR-radar

My pet theory (with no evidence for it, unfortunately), is that a bear once scared the crap out of Bryan Fischer.

Naturally, the correct wingnut response to this deeply traumatic event is extermination of bears.

Yeah, a stuffed teddy bear. Fischer is pretty much afraid of his own shadow at this point.

Then again, maybe this is the teddy bear he’s afraid of.

14 darthstar  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:49:22pm

re: #8 Tigger2005

Perhaps Reagan’s “There is a bear in the woods” campaign commercial freaked Bryan out some 30-odd years ago.

I didn’t know Reagan was into leather.

15 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:49:38pm

re: #7 Dr Lizardo

Bryan, you shameless slut! Yearning for spankings! And bears? Do you like bears in leather, Mr. Fischer? And what’s this about going out and about in drag? Are you trying to tell us something, Mr. Fischer?

Come out of the closet, Mr. Fischer.

Furries… he had one bad experience with a furry, and thereafter he’s decided to wipe out the species.

16 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:50:00pm

Franks sez…

Yeah, I tell them to change the channel if they see some guy in a brown suit with a telephone number at the bottom of the screen asking for money. — on being asked by Tipper Gore if there was anything on the TV he _didn’t_ allow his kids to watch …

17 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:50:41pm

re: #15 lawhawk

Furries… he had one bad experience with a furry, and thereafter he’s decided to wipe out the species.

“I swear, I thought the bear was a female!”

18 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:51:44pm

Right. An all powerful and omnipotent God can’t just come out and say “cut it out” but instead will deliver secret messages through meteorological events.

19 engineer cat  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:52:03pm

since bears love to drink beer, it must mean that they have immortal souls

qed
[x]

20 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:52:04pm
21 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:52:22pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Bryan Fischer: Get Rid of the ‘Curse’ That Is the Grizzly Bear

I wonder why he hates Sarah Palin so much. You’d think they’d be on good terms, them both being idiotic wingnuts and all.

22 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:52:23pm

Hmm. Too much fornicating going on. Time for a mud slide. Maybe they’ll get a hint.

//

23 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:52:37pm
24 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:52:55pm

re: #22 Gus

Hmm. Too much fornicating going on. Time for a mud slide. Maybe they’ll get a hint.

//

Stop stealing Spacejesus’s lines, Gus!

25 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:53:25pm

Who is Louie the Gigolo?

26 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:54:05pm

Talking of idiocy, here’s the day’s headline from loon central at wnd:

TED NUGENT: ‘GUN OWNERS NEXT ROSA PARKS’

Talk about spin for morons.

27 engineer cat  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:54:14pm

re: #23 Shiplord Kirel

Spank these, Bryan:

Right to keep and arm bears
Bears Discover Fire

i am familiar with ‘bears discover fire’ as a short story - didn’t know it had become book-sized…

28 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:54:40pm

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

Stop stealing Spacejesus’s lines, Gus!

Between 1940 and 1945 would have been a perfect time for a tidal wave to hit Japan! Instead, all we got was crickets. In fact, He made a Typhoon Cobra hit one of our fleets.

//

29 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:55:11pm

re: #25 Vicious Babushka

Who is Louie the Gigolo?

Never mind. I Googled.

“Big Gay Louie” is giving the benediction at Obama’s inauguration. Is this what Bryan is whining about?

30 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:55:30pm

re: #29 Vicious Babushka

Never mind. I Googled.

“Big Gay Louie” is giving the benediction at Obama’s inauguration. Is this what Bryan is whining about?

Yep.

31 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:55:52pm

re: #25 Vicious Babushka

Who is Louie the Gigolo?

Guy’s got a terrible ‘mob name’. He would be “Louie the Lily.”

32 engineer cat  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:56:05pm

re: #22 Gus

Time for a mud slide

i’ll bring the vodka!

33 jaunte  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:57:20pm

Bonus points for mentioning bears, gays, and spankings:

Jamin’ your way to the Winter Jam 2013 Spectacular in Nashville, TN Saturday Nashville Feb. 9, 2013!

Contest Details: Listen to AFR beginning Monday January 7th. When you hear theJamin” Q to call, be the correct caller. You will be asked to create a “rap or jam” telling us why you would like to win. Have fun, the “jam-rap” does not have to be lengthy! A grand prize drawing from all on air qualifiers will be held on Friday January 11th at 5:30 pm CST.
[Link: action.afa.net…]

I had to look up Winter Jam.

“Led by TobyMac, this year’s lineup represents the diversity – and future – of Christian music. And we are thrilled that Nick Hall will be back with us to share the Gospel message, as that has always been the heart of Winter Jam.”
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34 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:57:43pm

I guess we don’t have to worry about Fischer ever going into the National Cathedral again since they’re now doing SSMs there.

35 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:58:22pm

re: #28 Gus

Between 1940 and 1945 would have been a perfect time for a tidal wave to hit Japan! Instead, all we got was crickets. In fact, He made a Typhoon Cobra hit one of our fleets.

//

That was a warning to Harry Truman not to integrate the armed forces. When Truman didn’t listen, God let the Commies have the bomb!

In real life, Japan called the two typhoons that hit the US Pacific Fleet the 3rd and 4th Divine Winds.

36 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:00:19pm

re: #12 engineer cat

“One human being is worth more than an infinite number of grizzly bears,” Fischer writes. “Another way to put it is that there is no number of live grizzlies worth one dead human being. If it’s a choice between grizzlies and humans, the grizzlies have to go. And it’s time.”

a wingnut blogger once told me that “we conservatives aren’t against ecology - we need to breathe clean air just as much as anybody else. but if it comes down to a choice between bambi and jobs, bambi must die!

i am reserving this for the title of a book

The classic Bambi meets Godzilla:

37 nines09  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:02:46pm

He’ll be humming show tunes as he guns down the grizzlies. He’s a jigsaw puzzle with missing pieces.

38 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:04:42pm

re: #29 Vicious Babushka

Never mind. I Googled.

“Big Gay Louie” is giving the benediction at Obama’s inauguration. Is this what Bryan is whining about?

re: #30 Gus

Yep.

Reading that as an expected (by Fischer) conflict between Giglio and attacking gays.

39 engineer cat  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:04:56pm

Bryan Fischer Fantasizes About ‘Stilettos, a Dress, and Dangly Earrings’

but he’s not a fan of lucas cranach the elder???

[Link: pinterest.com…]

[Link: whosthatgirl-searchme.blogspot.com…]

40 TedStriker  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:05:20pm

re: #33 jaunte

Bonus points for mentioning bears, gays, and spankings:

Jamin’ your way to the Winter Jam 2013 Spectacular in Nashville, TN Saturday Nashville Feb. 9, 2013!

I had to look up Winter Jam.

Oh, G-d, this means two things:

1) People who don’t have any skill or talent are going to attempt to “rap or jam”

2) Fischer is mostly likely coming here to Nashville

FML…

*repeatedly headdesks*

41 TedStriker  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:07:51pm

re: #12 engineer cat

“One human being is worth more than an infinite number of grizzly bears,” Fischer writes. “Another way to put it is that there is no number of live grizzlies worth one dead human being. If it’s a choice between grizzlies and humans, the grizzlies have to go. And it’s time.”

a wingnut blogger once told me that “we conservatives aren’t against ecology - we need to breathe clean air just as much as anybody else. but if it comes down to a choice between bambi and jobs, bambi must die!

i am reserving this for the title of a book

If Dominionists like Fischer want to eradicate bears (for whatever twisted, warped reasons), think of the insight that gives to what he’d do to his fellow humans that aren’t down with what he wants to do.

42 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:07:55pm

What’s really disturbing is that there are people out there who see this video and think, “Yeah! He really tied it all together! I want to be like him!”

43 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:08:41pm

It’s a rather absurd concept on many levels. What are seen as natural disasters by humans are also part of the complexity of nature. Earthquakes, the ring of fire. The formation of geological features. Hurricanes, while very hurtful to humans are a part of the climate balance. In essence, we evolved alongside and survived because of many of these catastrophic natural events.

44 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:09:14pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

What’s really disturbing is that there are people out there who see this video and think, “Yeah! He really tied it all together! I want to be like him!”

Anyone who wants to be like him should get a psychological evaluation.

45 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:09:56pm

re: #39 engineer cat

Bryan Fischer Fantasizes About ‘Stilettos, a Dress, and Dangly Earrings’

but he’s not a fan of lucas cranach the elder???

[Link: pinterest.com…]

[Link: whosthatgirl-searchme.blogspot.com…]

Looks ‘shopped.

46 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:11:59pm

re: #41 TedStriker

If Dominionists like Fischer want to eradicate bears (for whatever twisted, warped reasons), think of the insight that gives to what he’d do to his fellow humans that aren’t down with what he wants to do.

I see that quote and imagine replacing “grizzly bears” with “assault rifles”.

47 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:14:03pm

According to Fischer, God’s in charge of this and only to spank the humans. //

48 darthstar  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:14:03pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

What’s really disturbing is that there are people out there who see this video and think, “Yeah! He really tied it all together! I want to be like him!”

To them I say, “That’s fine…just don’t vote…or reproduce.”

49 engineer cat  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:14:47pm

re: #47 Gus

According to Fischer, God’s in charge of this and only to spank the humans. //

fischer’s god resembles zeus more than jehovah

50 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:16:52pm

re: #49 engineer cat

fischer’s god resembles zeus more than jehovah

51 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:17:21pm

I only just now listened to the white haired oracle. I am not surprised but I have to make the obvious observation that he equates “spanking” kids with mass murder and destruction (by a loving god).

There was a smiling woman in Florida the last day or two who barely survived an airplane crashing into and destroying her home. She was so happy to to explain, in front of her destroyed home, that this was a proof of God’s existens. Not once did she mention that her god killed the three people in that plane in order to bring her the message.

Sick.

52 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:19:05pm

re: #51 Achilles Tang

I only just now listened to the white haired oracle. I am not surprised but I have to make the obvious observation that he equates “spanking” kids with mass murder and destruction (by a loving god).

There was a smiling woman in Florida the last day or two who barely survived an airplane crashing into and destroying her home. She was so happy to to explain, in front of her destroyed home, that this was a proof of God’s existens. Not once did she mention that her god killed the three people in that plane in order to bring her the message.

Sick.

Not your tribe or clan = Non-person.

53 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:19:23pm

re: #49 engineer cat

fischer’s god resembles zeus Khorne more than jehovah

Or maybe Cthulhu.

54 EPR-radar  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:19:27pm

re: #43 Gus

It’s a rather absurd concept on many levels. What are seen as natural disasters by humans are also part of the complexity of nature. Earthquakes, the ring of fire. The formation of geological features. Hurricanes, while very hurtful to humans are a part of the climate balance. In essence, we evolved alongside and survived because of many of these catastrophic natural events.

Volcanic eruptions are probably the best terrestrial example.

I wonder what Fischer would make of supernovas if anyone could get it through his incredibly thick skull that the existence of Earth with a decent supply of heavy elements is strong evidence that our solar system formed from the remnants of a supernova.

55 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:23:01pm

re: #54 EPR-radar

Volcanic eruptions are probably the best terrestrial example.

I wonder what Fischer would make of supernovas if anyone could get it through his incredibly thick skull that the existence of Earth with a decent supply of heavy elements is strong evidence that our solar system formed from the remnants of a supernova.

Given they won’t accept world > 6000 years old, much less tectonic plates, what makes you think that the time scales for that are even in the mildest ways going to be accepted as true?

56 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:23:52pm

re: #52 Feline Fearless Leader

Not your tribe or clan = Non-person.

But people like that think that those 2 people that died, died for her reason and are fine because they went to a better place.

57 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:24:35pm

There are no personal reasons for accidents or disasters.

58 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:25:14pm

re: #51 Achilles Tang

I only just now listened to the white haired oracle. I am not surprised but I have to make the obvious observation that he equates “spanking” kids with mass murder and destruction (by a loving god).

There was a smiling woman in Florida the last day or two who barely survived an airplane crashing into and destroying her home. She was so happy to to explain, in front of her destroyed home, that this was a proof of God’s existens. Not once did she mention that her god killed the three people in that plane in order to bring her the message.

Sick.

One cannot know what God intends for others, and one can thank God for one’s own survival without being callous towards those who died.

59 efuseakay  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:25:57pm
60 EPR-radar  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:25:59pm

re: #55 Feline Fearless Leader

Given they won’t accept world > 6000 years old, much less tectonic plates, what makes you think that the time scales for that are even in the mildest ways going to be accepted as true?

That would be the “incredibly thick skull” I was referring to. Of course he is a YEC loon that rejects anything that would conflict with his particularly stupid interpretation of bronze-age texts.

61 darthstar  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:28:40pm

re: #58 Dark_Falcon

One cannot know what God intends for others, and one can thank God for one’s own survival without being callous towards those who died.

God wants you to vote Democratic.

62 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:28:41pm

WTF TWITTER DERP CONTEXT FAIL

63 abolitionist  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:30:43pm

re: #61 darthstar

God wants you to vote Democratic.

Secret ballots be damned. /

64 darthstar  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:38:07pm

Indeed…especially with people like Bryan Fischer among us…

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65 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:38:54pm
One cannot know what God intends for others, and one can thank God for one’s own survival without being callous towards those who died.

I didn’t hear this smiling, happy, woman say that, which I would call callous. Most rational beings would think that a meteor, or leaking gas stove, would have achieved the same objective.

66 darthstar  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:38:55pm
67 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:38:57pm

Damned homosexual bears. Leave Bryan alone.

68 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:41:08pm

re: #53 Vicious Babushka

Or maybe Cthulhu.

Cthulhu’s not so much of an asshole as Bryan Fischer’s god.

69 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:43:19pm

re: #57 Gus

There are no personal reasons for accidents or disasters.

Everything is personal if you believe in a psychotic god.

70 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:45:06pm

re: #68 Dr Lizardo

Cthulhu’s not so much of an asshole as Bryan Fischer’s god.

Cthulhu planned to spank Bryan Fischer with his tentacles, but decided not to when he realized that Fischer would just enjoy it.

71 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:46:00pm

Wingnut Bizarro World:

1. The President has ALREADY issued an “executve order” confiscating all firearms.

2. Term limits have been repealed making Obama PRESIDENT FOR LIFE!1!1

This is being repeated ad freakoutum by morons who actually believe it is true.

72 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:46:38pm

If you’re going to give God credit for the good stuff, you’ve got to be consistent and recognize when he’s fucked you over:

It wasn’t his own hands or the Pittsburgh secondary Sunday that foiled Buffalo Bills wide receiver Steve Johnson from hauling in what should have been the game-winning TD catch in the end zone.

It was God.

“I PRAISE YOU 24/7!!!!!!” the 24-year-old tweeted from his iPad at around 5:15 Sunday after the Steelers’ 19-16 overtime victory. “AND THIS HOW YOU DO ME!!!!! YOU EXPECT ME TO LEARN FROM THIS??? HOW???!!! ILL NEVER FORGET THIS!! EVER!!! THX THO…”

73 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:49:31pm

Mr Fisher sounds like he would LOVE a punishment spanking!

74 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:50:05pm

re: #71 Vicious Babushka

Wingnut Bizarro World:

1. The President has ALREADY issued an “executve order” confiscating all firearms.

2. Term limits have been repealed making Obama PRESIDENT FOR LIFE!1!1

This is being repeated ad freakoutum by morons who actually believe it is true.

Things like that make me wonder if the Internet may end up being a bad thing after all.

75 EPR-radar  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:50:33pm

re: #72 goddamnedfrank

If you’re going to give God credit for the good stuff, you’ve got to be consistent and recognize when he’s fucked you over:

The Tebow effect. Possibly the one thing that could significantly further lower the collective intelligence and wisdom of the US would be a new “Gospel of Football” that combines Calvinism, the prosperity gospel and football idolatry.

The next L. Ron Hubbard could probably make some serious $$$ with this formula.

76 TedStriker  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:52:23pm

re: #72 goddamnedfrank

If you’re going to give God credit for the good stuff, you’ve got to be consistent and recognize when he’s fucked you over:

What a fucking brat.

Hey, Johnson, just man up and say you fucked up, but don’t blame G-d for you bobbling the ball.

Shithead…

77 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:54:51pm

re: #72 goddamnedfrank

The next Tebow wannabe.

78 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:57:32pm

re: #74 Dark_Falcon

Things like that make me wonder if the Internet may end up being a bad thing after all.

The internet is a bad thing. There used to be an IQ barrier to operating a typewriter, or writing with a pen, and addressing envelopes.

79 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:58:28pm

Don’t bad mouth Tim Tebow, guys. He’s decent, charitable, and always does his best. He’s a good person who shouldn’t be set alongside haters, since he isn’t one.

80 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:01:15pm

re: #78 Achilles Tang

The internet is a bad thing. There used to be an IQ barrier to operating a typewriter, or writing with a pen, and addressing envelopes.

That’s not the ‘bad’ IMO. The real problem is that before the Internet it was hard for crazies to gain a large audience because electronic and print media outlets featured gatekeepers who were almost always sane people and screened out the crazies. The Internet connected previously isolated nutcases and gave them a megaphone.

81 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:01:40pm

What just doesn’t square are the conservative Christian notions that people are solely responsible for their own successes/failures, and that everything is part of God’s plan. It’s like they can’t figure out what to worship, a fickle deity or their own egos.

82 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:02:18pm

re: #79 Dark_Falcon

Don’t bad mouth Tim Tebow, guys. He’s decent, charitable, and always does his best. He’s a good person who shouldn’t be set alongside haters, since he isn’t one.

One doesn’t have to be a hater to be ridiculed for thinking God is a football fan who doesn’t think humans should do some things on their own.

83 EPR-radar  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:02:58pm

re: #81 goddamnedfrank

What just doesn’t square are the conservative Christian notions that people are solely responsible for their own successes/failures, and that everything is part of God’s plan. It’s like they can’t figure out what to worship, a fickle deity or their own egos.

Logic is of the debbil. Repent now or spend eternity hip-deep in molten lead.

//

84 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:03:25pm

re: #80 Dark_Falcon

That’s not the ‘bad’ IMO. The real problem is that before the Internet it was hard for crazies to gain a large audience because electronic and print media outlets featured gatekeepers who were almost always sane people and screened out the crazies. The Internet connected previously isolated nutcases and gave them a megaphone.

Isn’t that what I said, in less words?

85 wilburs  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:03:44pm

re: #34 lawhawk

I guess we don’t have to worry about Fischer ever going into the National Cathedral again since they’re now doing SSMs there.

Isn’t that where old lady Dobson has the “National day of prayer” for all some Christians every year?

one more example of bigotry against them, no doubt

86 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:06:34pm

@catwahler keeps on Tweeting the same damn fucking thing over and over and over. Is that not the definition of spamming? People are such freaking idiots.

87 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:07:26pm
And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.

Matthew 6:5

This is what gets me about people like Tebow. They’re marketing what should be a private thing, the entire purpose of the exercise is to create a spectacle. Smacks of peacocking insincerity.

88 jaunte  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:07:42pm

re: #71 Vicious Babushka

Wingnut Bizarro World:

1. The President has ALREADY issued an “executve order” confiscating all firearms.

2. Term limits have been repealed making Obama PRESIDENT FOR LIFE!1!1

This is being repeated ad freakoutum by morons who actually believe it is true.

SNOPES IS IN ON IT!!!!

/Faulkner knew!

89 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:08:32pm

re: #84 Achilles Tang

Isn’t that what I said, in less words?

No, it isn’t. Because being a crank doesn’t mean you’re stupid, in fact some cranks are a good bit smarter than the average person. But it used to be that what you mailed in asking for a book deal or airtime would be ignored in you were a nutcase, and thus nuts were largely kept out of mass media. Nowadays the net has given nuts their own media outlets, places where the crazies are the gatekeepers.

90 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:10:04pm

re: #88 jaunte

[Embedded content]

SNOPES IS IN ON IT!!!!

/Faulkner knew!

Oh yeah, totally can’t trust Snopes

Snopes is run by librulz!1!

91 EPR-radar  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:11:36pm

re: #79 Dark_Falcon

Don’t bad mouth Tim Tebow, guys. He’s decent, charitable, and always does his best. He’s a good person who shouldn’t be set alongside haters, since he isn’t one.

On the other hand, the idea that football has religious significance should be mocked at every opportunity.

92 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:15:32pm
93 jaunte  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:16:59pm

re: #92 Gus

He needs an Australian vacation.

94 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:22:56pm

re: #56 Gus

But people like that think that those 2 people that died, died for her reason and are fine because they went to a better place.

Like suicide bombers. They got their reward after their sacrifice. Where have I heard that before?

95 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:25:04pm

I don’t really hate Tebow but I do hate being told I have to like him because he’s a Christian and a good guy. If Tebow had the same character but was a Dawkins style Atheist, would he get all the love he did? I think not. That’s not a slight on Tebow so much as it is on people who think good and Christian are inherently connected. There are indeed good Christians but there are also good Atheists, Hindus, Jews, Muslims, etc and bad of each too. Plus I have to admit I have a huge problem with Tebow’s father speaking so ignorantly of the Philippines as he did in the SI article I read when TT was still at UF claiming that most of the people of that nation don’t know Jesus Christ. I took that as a very anti Catholic statement considering that most of that nation is Catholic.

96 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:26:00pm

Just got the bill from the vet for my eldest cat Peanut. Dear old cat, on meds, 20 years old. Anyway a few hundred bucks is cool. Heh, a buck a cuddle? I’ll take that all year long….

97 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:26:25pm

re: #91 EPR-radar

On the other hand, the idea that football has religious significance should be mocked at every opportunity.

Yeah, this. If there’s a God(I don’t know, I’m Agnostic), I think his priorities are on something a bit more important than football.

98 jaunte  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:26:45pm

re: #95 HappyWarrior

most of the people of that nation don’t know Jesus

It’s true, unless they’re really really old Middle Easterners.

99 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:28:54pm

re: #98 jaunte

It’s true, unless they’re really really old Middle Easterners.

Ha, but there’s plenty of Spanish influence there so someone’s got to know a Jesús somewhere.

100 EPR-radar  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:32:52pm

re: #95 HappyWarrior

I don’t really hate Tebow but I do hate being told I have to like him because he’s a Christian and a good guy. If Tebow had the same character but was a Dawkins style Atheist, would he get all the love he did? I think not. That’s not a slight on Tebow so much as it is on people who think good and Christian are inherently connected. There are indeed good Christians but there are also good Atheists, Hindus, Jews, Muslims, etc and bad of each too. Plus I have to admit I have a huge problem with Tebow’s father speaking so ignorantly of the Philippines as he did in the SI article I read when TT was still at UF claiming that most of the people of that nation don’t know Jesus Christ. I took that as a very anti Catholic statement considering that most of that nation is Catholic.

Good points. I’d like to see a more widespread appreciation of the point that religion (or lack thereof) and morality (or lack thereof) have very little to do with each other.

101 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:33:12pm

re: #94 Eventual Carrion

Like suicide bombers. They got their reward after their sacrifice. Where have I heard that before?

Not just suicide bombers. It’s easier to be willing to face death doing a cause which you think is Godly thus putting you on the right sides of God knowing that if you die it will all be well in the afterlife. At least that’s a theory behind “there are no atheists in foxhole.” You die. That’s it. In reality though most people don’t go into war thinking “I don’t care if I die because I’m going to heaven.”

102 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:34:45pm

re: #100 EPR-radar

Good points. I’d like to see a more widespread appreciation of the point that religion (or lack thereof) and morality (or lack thereof) have very little to do with each other.

Thanks. Really, I mean it’s just annoying being told if you say I don’t like Tebow- “Oh you must hate religion and Christians.” Hell, I’m a big Steelers fan. One of our biggest stars, Troy Polamalu is a devoutly Christian guy too but he’s not as well known for it as Tebow is. I think at one point I had a problem with Tebow but I’ve realized it’s more with his diehard fans than the man himself who I will admit seems to be a nice enough guy and one I will add from a football fan’s pov got the raw end of a deal in New York this year. But back to my broader point, yeah, there are a lot of good people out there who just happen to be nonreligious. Religious or non religious really shouldn’t be how you’re judged as a person. It should be what you actually do. IF you believe in God and Scripture and do terrible things, you suck. IF you don’t and do equally wonderful things, you’re awesome.

103 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:40:24pm

By the way, it’s bizarre to say since we’ve come a long way as a society but I think Kareem Abdul-Jabbar would face more shit being a converted Muslim now than he did then. Can’t say that for sure since I wasn’t born when KAJ converted but knowing today’s hostility to Muslims, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to suggest that. Anyhow, much love for KAJ. Great basketball player but he seems to an even better guy.

104 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:43:23pm

re: #102 HappyWarrior

Thanks. Really, I mean it’s just annoying being told if you say I don’t like Tebow- “Oh you must hate religion and Christians.” Hell, I’m a big Steelers fan. One of our biggest stars, Troy Polamalu is a devoutly Christian guy too but he’s not as well known for it as Tebow is. I think at one point I had a problem with Tebow but I’ve realized it’s more with his diehard fans than the man himself who I will admit seems to be a nice enough guy and one I will add from a football fan’s pov got the raw end of a deal in New York this year. But back to my broader point, yeah, there are a lot of good people out there who just happen to be nonreligious. Religious or non religious really shouldn’t be how you’re judged as a person. It should be what you actually do. IF you believe in God and Scripture and do terrible things, you suck. IF you don’t and do equally wonderful things, you’re awesome.

My best friend actually suggested that the Bears should get Tebow as their second-line QB and use him for trick and short-yardage plays. I thought the idea had merit, but I do want to run it by you folks. What do you think Tebow’s proper role on an NFL team should be?

105 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:46:14pm

re: #104 Dark_Falcon

My best friend actually suggested that the Bears should get Tebow as their second-line QB and use him for trick and short-yardage plays. I thought the idea had merit, but I do want to run it by you folks. What do you think Tebow’s proper role on an NFL team should be?

Honestly, I don’t know. Wouldn’t kill me if the Steelers got him because they are going to need a second string QB but I prefer more conventional QBs. I have to admit in a row rooting for Tebow sometimes in a way because he’s a lefty and since lefty QBs rarely succeed in the NFL, I do like seeing them succeed. Felt similarly about Vick before I found out he was engaged in dog-fighting.

106 wilburs  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:56:22pm

re: #104 Dark_Falcon

My best friend actually suggested that the Bears should get Tebow as their second-line QB and use him for trick and short-yardage plays. I thought the idea had merit, but I do want to run it by you folks. What do you think Tebow’s proper role on an NFL team should be?

fullback

107 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:56:56pm

re: #105 HappyWarrior

Honestly, I don’t know. Wouldn’t kill me if the Steelers got him because they are going to need a second string QB but I prefer more conventional QBs. I have to admit in a row rooting for Tebow sometimes in a way because he’s a lefty and since lefty QBs rarely succeed in the NFL, I do like seeing them succeed. Felt similarly about Vick before I found out he was engaged in dog-fighting.

I’m a southpaw myself and I root for left-handers for the same reason. I never rooted for Michael Vick, though, because it was too much fun watching the Bears defense pulverize him whenever the team he was on played Chicago. Scrambling QBs don’t work very well against first-rate linebackers.

108 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:00:39pm

re: #107 Dark_Falcon

I’m a southpaw myself and I root for left-handers for the same reason. I never rooted for Michael Vick, though, because it was too much fun watching the Bears defense pulverize him whenever the team he was on played Chicago. Scrambling QBs don’t work very well against first-rate linebackers.

Yeah, well remember I’m an AFC team fan and he’s from my home state. He always gave the Steelers trouble though. I still remember him having a career like game against them in 2006. Just an awful game. My ideal type of QB though if I have one is an Elway type. Someone with a good arm, pocket presence, but can run fi he needs to.

109 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:00:54pm

Froggy Fresh - Same Old Kid

110 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:01:39pm

re: #104 Dark_Falcon

My best friend actually suggested that the Bears should get Tebow as their second-line QB and use him for trick and short-yardage plays. I thought the idea had merit, but I do want to run it by you folks. What do you think Tebow’s proper role on an NFL team should be?

Well I think Tebow has just a couple years left..Mainly as a 2nd stringer nothing more. What do you think of the Brett Musberger scandal?

111 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:01:46pm

re: #106 wilburs

fullback

FB’s need to make a comeback. Power running for the win. Grew up watching Bettis do his thing. I was always the power back in backyard football. I was never fast but I was a bruiser. Loved using my size to my advantage.

112 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:03:42pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

Yeah, well remember I’m an AFC team fan and he’s from my home state. He always gave the Steelers trouble though. I still remember him having a career like game against them in 2006. Just an awful game. My ideal type of QB though if I have one is an Elway type. Someone with a good arm, pocket presence, but can run fi he needs to.

So you’re a fan of QB’s like Aaron Rogers or the Manning brothers.

113 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:04:01pm

re: #110 HoosierHoops

Well I think Tebow has just a couple years left..Mainly as a 2nd stringer nothing more. What do you think of the Brett Musberger scandal?

I don’t know Hoops. I think he has more than a couple years left. He hasn’t shown any injury proneness or happiness with being a second stringer. He really handled the way Ryan handled him with the Jets better than most athletes would. I mean they give up two draft picks for him and Ryan seldom uses him. Rex is a pigheaded fool.

114 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:04:54pm

re: #112 Dark_Falcon

So you’re a fan of QB’s like Aaron Rogers or the Manning brothers.

Yeah you could say that. I did grow up liking Marino too but that was A) I liked dolphins, B) liked Ace Ventura, and C) have been told I have a superficial resemblance to Dan.

115 wilburs  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:07:19pm

re: #111 HappyWarrior

FB’s need to make a comeback. Power running for the win. Grew up watching Bettis do his thing. I was always the power back in backyard football. I was never fast but I was a bruiser. Loved using my size to my advantage.

The Jets tried him as a short yardage guy, but he wasn’t that good at it. But I can see him as a fullback because he does have a pretty good burst of speed. He could easily learn to catch out of the backfield. Blocking might be a problem though.
He is done as a QB, I don’t see anyone giving him a shot unless as a public relations thing.

116 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:08:50pm

re: #115 wilburs

The Jets tried him as a short yardage guy, but he wasn’t that good at it. But I can see him as a fullback because he does have a pretty good burst of speed. He could easily learn to catch out of the backfield. Blocking might be a problem though.
He is done as a QB, I don’t see anyone giving him a shot unless as a public relations thing.

Jaguars would fit the PR bill. I think the FB think would be cool. Could catch a team by surprise. When the Steelers played the Jets this year, I only saw Tebow come in on a couple of Wildcat formations.

117 wilburs  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:08:57pm

re: #113 HappyWarrior

I don’t know Hoops. I think he has more than a couple years left. He hasn’t shown any injury proneness or happiness with being a second stringer. He really handled the way Ryan handled him with the Jets better than most athletes would. I mean they give up two draft picks for him and Ryan seldom uses him. Rex is a pigheaded fool.

Tebow quit on the team. Ryan’s judgement may have been wrong in the beginning, but not in the end.

118 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:09:15pm

re: #117 wilburs

Tebow quit on the team. Ryan’s judgement may have been wrong in the beginning, but not in the end.

Shows what I know.

119 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:09:49pm

re: #110 HoosierHoops

Well I think Tebow has just a couple years left..Mainly as a 2nd stringer nothing more. What do you think of the Brett Musberger scandal?

I regard it as a nontroversy. At most Musberger went a bit overboard, but he didn’t say anything crude or lewd. It shouldn’t be considered bad if a man waxes effusive over a beautiful woman every once in a while, as long as he doesn’t act in vulgar manner, which Brett Musburger did not do.

120 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:10:06pm

Speaking of God. You know what might come in handy? Car ejection seats. Maybe I’ve be watching too much Liveleak.

121 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:10:38pm

re: #113 HappyWarrior

I don’t know Hoops. I think he has more than a couple years left. He hasn’t shown any injury proneness or happiness with being a second stringer. He really handled the way Ryan handled him with the Jets better than most athletes would. I mean they give up two draft picks for him and Ryan seldom uses him. Rex is a pigheaded fool.

Jets are clueless.. The problem Tebow has with hitching onto the other 30 teams is that most teams want a backup that can step up and run their offense.
Tebow needs his own spread college sets to be successful and has shown an inability to run complex offenses in the NFL.

122 wilburs  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:11:22pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

Shows what I know.

believe me, the less you know about the jets, the better off you are
I’m stuck with them

123 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:12:31pm

re: #117 wilburs

Tebow quit on the team. Ryan’s judgement may have been wrong in the beginning, but not in the end.

He only quit after being systematically denied any chance to prove his value. After a while you have to accept that you’re not going to get the chance you need and look into how you can go elsewhere.

124 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:12:40pm

re: #122 wilburs

believe me, the less you know about the jets, the better off you are
I’m stuck with them

I was in New York the year they got Favre. That was interesting. I do hope one of the Jets, Dolphins, or Bills can be competitive. Sick of the Pats having a cakewalk to the division every year. Jealously I know but hey that’s allowed.

125 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:13:19pm

Hmmm.

126 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:13:38pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

Yeah, this. If there’s a God(I don’t know, I’m Agnostic), I think his priorities are on something a bit more important than football.

Of course football is important to him. He withdrew his blessing from the American League when they put in the designated hitter. Which explains the New York Yankees.
/// ;)

127 wilburs  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:13:43pm

re: #124 HappyWarrior

I was in New York the year they got Favre. That was interesting. I do hope one of the Jets, Dolphins, or Bills can be competitive. Sick of the Pats having a cakewalk to the division every year. Jealously I know but hey that’s allowed.

I live in Boston
I am really really sick of the Pats

128 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:15:00pm

re: #127 wilburs

I live in Boston
I am really really sick of the Pats

Ouch. But yes I’ll be rooting for the Texans this weekend with no regrets whatsoever.

129 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:16:10pm

re: #126 Feline Fearless Leader

Of course football is important to him. He withdrew his blessing from the American League when they put in the designated hitter. Which explains the New York Yankees.
/// ;)

We’re covering all the teams I hate tonight it seems. Quick someone bring up Duke and you’ve got a trifecta.

130 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:18:20pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

We’re covering all the teams I hate tonight it seems. Quick someone bring up Duke and you’ve got a trifecta.

My college basketball hate was UNC. I think Dean Smith did less with more talent than any other college coach I ever watched.

131 wilburs  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:18:25pm

re: #123 Dark_Falcon

He only quit after being systematically denied any chance to prove his value. After a while you have to accept that you’re not going to get the chance you need and look into how you can go elsewhere.

No
He didn’t play because he sucked, he cannot pass at all

he whined after he didn’t get a start coming off 2 weeks on the injury list, then told them he didn’t want to play in the last game, one they actually had a chance to win.
They had to put the only decent receiver that they have in to run the wildcat….and he was much better

132 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:19:16pm

re: #127 wilburs

I live in Boston
I am really really sick of the Pats

Colts fan..Brandy has broken our hearts..Please Lawd, let Manning slay them this year and make the team as irrelevant as Log Cabin Repugs

133 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:19:34pm

re: #130 Feline Fearless Leader

My college basketball hate was UNC. I think Dean Smith did less with more talent than any other college coach I ever watched.

I never had a real college basketball team until I went to Mason. Always liked Dean Smith though dating from a Rick Reilly article I read on him. But I can see why people would hate UNC.

134 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:20:49pm

re: #132 HoosierHoops

Colts fan..Brandy has broken our hearts..Please Lawd, let Manning slay them this year and make the team as irrelevant as Log Cabin Repugs

At least you guys have beaten him in a AFC Championship. Steelers lost twice to them. I mean granted one year we had Kordell Stewart at the helm and the other a rookie Roethlisberger but they were both home losses too.

135 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:21:02pm

re: #131 wilburs

No
He didn’t play because he sucked, he cannot pass at all

he whined after he didn’t get a start coming off 2 weeks on the injury list, then told them he didn’t want to play in the last game, one they actually had a chance to win.
They had to put the only decent receiver that they have in to run the wildcat….and he was much better

Where did you hear that?

136 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:22:26pm

re: #103 HappyWarrior

By the way, it’s bizarre to say since we’ve come a long way as a society but I think Kareem Abdul-Jabbar would face more shit being a converted Muslim now than he did then. Can’t say that for sure since I wasn’t born when KAJ converted but knowing today’s hostility to Muslims, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to suggest that. Anyhow, much love for KAJ. Great basketball player but he seems to an even better guy.

Cassius Clay faced a shit storm when he converted.

137 wilburs  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:23:25pm

re: #135 Dark_Falcon

Where did you hear that?

Believe it or not, I watched the last game.

The announcers mentioned it several times, because they had to explain why Kerley was running the wildcat.
It was all over the NY newspapers and blogs

138 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:23:43pm

re: #136 wrenchwench

Cassius Clay faced a shit storm when he converted.

Yeah he did. i have the famous Sonny Liston first round KO photo in my room. That just may along with Mays’ “The Catch” be my favorite sports photo ever.

139 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:24:14pm

re: #133 HappyWarrior

I never had a real college basketball team until I went to Mason. Always liked Dean Smith though dating from a Rick Reilly article I read on him. But I can see why people would hate UNC.

I think part of it (and also my dislike for Notre Dame) is how they sucked away local talent into their program. One reason some of the regional schools remained 2nd-rate in terms of athletics. Though at this point basketball has almost reached the level of corruption enjoyed by college football. Essentially acting as a “free” minor league for the professional level.

A redeeming feature is that they have an actual championship tournament that is fun to watch as compared to the travesty that is the bowl and BCS system. (Also doesn’t help that my interactions with the college football players at university were almost universally negative while the college basketball players I met were almost universally fairly cool and not stuck-up.)

140 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:24:32pm

re: #135 Dark_Falcon

Where did you hear that?

Remember, he’s a Jets fan so he probably keeps up with the team via blogs, beat writers, etc that you and I as fans of other teams may not read. I’m surprised to hear it too because it doesn’t sound like what I’ve heard about Tebow but I trust him.

141 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:25:15pm

re: #132 HoosierHoops

Colts fan..Brandy has broken our hearts..Please Lawd, let Manning slay them this year and make the team as irrelevant as Log Cabin Repugs

If its Broncos-Patriots in the AFC Championship Game, then its liable to be an all-time classic. But I’d give the edge to Denver. New England has played Peyton Manning (and his brother) too many times, and the more times you play Payton Manning the better he gets when facing you. Denver will have a number of offensive plays designed by Manning just to take advantage of Patriot weaknesses.

142 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:26:22pm

re: #140 HappyWarrior

Remember, he’s a Jets fan so he probably keeps up with the team via blogs, beat writers, etc that you and I as fans of other teams may not read. I’m surprised to hear it too because it doesn’t sound like what I’ve heard about Tebow but I trust him.

And Rex Ryan can probably try any Christian’s patience to the breaking point.
//

143 wilburs  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:26:26pm

re: #132 HoosierHoops

Colts fan..Brandy has broken our hearts..Please Lawd, let Manning slay them this year and make the team as irrelevant as Log Cabin Repugs

I root against them no matter who they play

But as much as I hate all things Patriots, I have to admit, he is the best that I have ever seen

144 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:26:30pm

re: #139 Feline Fearless Leader

I think part of it (and also my dislike for Notre Dame) is how they sucked away local talent into their program. One reason some of the regional schools remained 2nd-rate in terms of athletics. Though at this point basketball has almost reached the level of corruption enjoyed by college football. Essentially acting as a “free” minor league for the professional level.

A redeeming feature is that they have an actual championship tournament that is fun to watch as compared to the travesty that is the bowl and BCS system. (Also doesn’t help that my interactions with the college football players at university were almost universally negative while the college basketball players I met were almost universally fairly cool and not stuck-up.)

Yeah totally feel ya about college basketball. Reminds me, when I was a reporter at Mason’s newspaper, one of my great thrills was being able to interview the last guy who came in after the school made the Final Four. And the best roommate I ever had been a freshman that year so he had some great stories about that season.

145 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:26:43pm

re: #137 wilburs

Believe it or not, I watched the last game.

The announcers mentioned it several times, because they had to explain why Kerley was running the wildcat.
It was all over the NY newspapers and blogs

That’s lousy of him. It makes him look like a petulant child. He needs a spanking. :D

146 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:28:38pm

I’m not going to hash tag to TGND though. Stopped hash tagging to TCOT a while back. :D

147 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:29:17pm

re: #135 Dark_Falcon

Where did you hear that?

Post and other NY media was spinning that story.. Back to the ESPN apology for Brett Musberger. This last Decade ESPN has been flooded with sexual discrimination suits..It’s better than a ’ all my days’ soap opera.
Years ago I read when you walk into the ESPN studios you could almost smell the testosterone in the air.

148 wilburs  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:29:38pm

re: #145 Dark_Falcon

That’s lousy of him. It makes him look like a petulant child. He needs a spanking. :D

I was really, really surprised.
Everything I heard all year was about how his teammates liked him and how he had won over even the people who were against him coming to the team.

149 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:30:49pm

re: #148 wilburs

I was really, really surprised.
Everything I heard all year was about how his teammates liked him and how he had won over even the people who were against him coming to the team.

Probably upset that he won’t be able to save them from the ball-and-chain that is the Sanchize.

150 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:31:00pm

re: #147 HoosierHoops

Post and other NY media was spinning that story.. Back to the ESPN apology for Brett Musberger. This last Decade ESPN has been flooded with sexual discrimination suits..It’s better than a ’ all my days’ soap opera.
Years ago I read when you walk into the ESPN studios you could almost smell the testosterone in the air.

There’s supposed to be a pretty good book on ESPN’s early years. Really does seem like it was almost a real life version of Anchorman. All the more funny seeing Will Farrell as Ron Burgundy “audition” for Sportscenter and telling them that a network totally devoted to sports would never last.

151 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:32:41pm

Have any teams other than Buffalo and KC hired new head coaches yet by the way? It’s always interesting for me to watch where the head coaches go and to try to predict which one will be on the chopping block within the next few years or which one will be the next big success. Can tell you this much, I had no idea who Sean Payton was after 2005. Didn’t know who Mike Tomlin was when the Steelers hired him either.

152 wilburs  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:33:27pm

re: #149 Feline Fearless Leader

Probably upset that he won’t be able to save them from the ball-and-chain that is the Sanchize.

I’m hoping the Jets can get “Sandy” relief from the league and demolish the team and completely rebuild

153 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:34:33pm
154 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:35:48pm

re: #144 HappyWarrior

Yeah totally feel ya about college basketball. Reminds me, when I was a reporter at Mason’s newspaper, one of my great thrills was being able to interview the last guy who came in after the school made the Final Four. And the best roommate I ever had been a freshman that year so he had some great stories about that season.

I played College ball. No big deal. I transferred from a JUCO and got to ride a bench at a 4 year school

155 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:35:50pm

re: #153 wrenchwench

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Someone looks uncomfortable. But hey, as we say, if someone doesn’t want you invading their space that’s cool too.

156 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:35:50pm

re: #147 HoosierHoops

Post and other NY media was spinning that story.. Back to the ESPN apology for Brett Musberger. This last Decade ESPN has been flooded with sexual discrimination suits..It’s better than a ’ all my days’ soap opera.
Years ago I read when you walk into the ESPN studios you could almost smell the testosterone in the air.

It still doesn’t make Musberger wrong. I can understand ESPN having problems, but one has to draw the line sometimes. One can admire a beautiful woman without leering, and that was what Musberger was doing.

157 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:36:54pm

re: #155 Gus

Someone looks uncomfortable. But hey, as we say, if someone doesn’t want you invading their space that’s cool too.

Biden is awesome. I wish I’d known this earlier.

158 Kragar  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:37:16pm

Took a down day. What did I miss?

159 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:37:43pm

re: #155 Gus

Someone looks uncomfortable. But hey, as we say, if someone doesn’t want you invading their space that’s cool too.

It’s just Biden. He has to have some form of gaffe when he’s handling a major matter. Gaffes and miscues are just something he does.

160 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:38:10pm

re: #158 Kragar

Took a down day. What did I miss?

Budget passed. World peace declared. And we’re headed to Mars.
/

161 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:38:45pm

re: #158 Kragar

Took a down day. What did I miss?

Obama did something wrong. From both sides! Wah!

162 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:38:52pm

re: #158 Kragar

Took a down day. What did I miss?

A day, I guess.

163 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:39:02pm

re: #154 HoosierHoops

I played College ball. No big deal. I transferred from a JUCO and got to ride a bench at a 4 year school

Heh, we had one kid who was a walk-on that was pretty legendary with the crowd. I always did like talking to the players. Not sure if they felt the same way talking to us in the press but I always tried to be empathetic. I remember having a good laugh about The Hangover with one of the guys- our best player that year in fact when I was doing a feature.

164 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:39:04pm

re: #158 Kragar

Took a down day. What did I miss?

We all agreed that the Greater Good required LGF inviting in the Tau and driving out the corrupt Imperium.

///

165 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:39:20pm

The other piece of sports-related news today was the Baseball Hall of Fame balloting. No one got a sufficient percentage of the vote to get in.

166 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:39:28pm

I was watching that N.O.W. stuff today. Sent off a few of my O-Bot Tweets. ;)

167 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:39:42pm

re: #165 Feline Fearless Leader

The other piece of sports-related news today was the Baseball Hall of Fame balloting. No one got a sufficient percentage of the vote to get in.

That was stupid.

168 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:39:42pm

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

It’s just Biden. He has to have some form of gaffe when he’s handling a major matter. Gaffes and miscues are just something he does.

He makes you think its a gaffe….

169 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:40:28pm

re: #158 Kragar

Took a down day. What did I miss?

Now I remember. Obama is Hitler.

And Stalin.

170 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:41:41pm

re: #163 HappyWarrior

Heh, we had one kid who was a walk-on that was pretty legendary with the crowd. I always did like talking to the players. Not sure if they felt the same way talking to us in the press but I always tried to be empathetic. I remember having a good laugh about The Hangover with one of the guys- our best player that year in fact when I was doing a feature.

We always gave the 9th and 10th guys on the roster a good cheer if they got in. Generally a walk-on, though one was the son of one of the assistant coaches as I recall.

171 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:42:30pm

I think he is confusing unreasoning certainty for faith here…

172 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:44:11pm

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

No, it isn’t. Because being a crank doesn’t mean you’re stupid, in fact some cranks are a good bit smarter than the average person. But it used to be that what you mailed in asking for a book deal or airtime would be ignored in you were a nutcase, and thus nuts were largely kept out of mass media. Nowadays the net has given nuts their own media outlets, places where the crazies are the gatekeepers.

Smarter is, in this case, relative to the issue being discussed. I agree that a well qualified brain surgeon can be an ardent Republican, but you seem to be arguing that the primary difference between then and now (in the internet age) is in the gatekeepers, not in the crowd.

I am saying, simply, (and I thought we agreed) that the internet (along with cable TV) has allowed the morons to easily and lazily find their soul mates whereas before they would simply have languished in limbo where they belonged.

173 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:44:41pm

re: #170 Feline Fearless Leader

We always gave the 9th and 10th guys on the roster a good cheer if they got in. Generally a walk-on, though one was the son of one of the assistant coaches as I recall.

Yeah this guy was actually the son of a good friend of the head coach’s going way back to I believe their high school or college days. I miss Larranaga at Mason. My last semester was Hewitt’s first year so I don’t really have an opinion of him but Larranaga just was a character. He’s got this thick New York accent and likes to joke around with the reporters. I really hope Miami’s going well for him. While I was disappointed with the move, Fairfax, Va in winter or Miami, Florida. Easy choice and even easier one with the money he was offered.

174 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:44:58pm

re: #163 HappyWarrior

Heh, we had one kid who was a walk-on that was pretty legendary with the crowd. I always did like talking to the players. Not sure if they felt the same way talking to us in the press but I always tried to be empathetic. I remember having a good laugh about The Hangover with one of the guys- our best player that year in fact when I was doing a feature.

I never had good relations with reporters. They couldn’t print an accurate story for crap. One time the register printed an over the top story that had grandmas sending me post cards thanking me for inspiring them and what a wonderful boy I was…Jeez

175 jaunte  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:45:12pm

Piers Morgan, Guns, and the Bible

Sarah Posner: “…[ Gun Owners of America executive director Larry] Pratt, who has authored an essay entitled, “What Does the Bible Say About Gun Control?”, told me, “When we’re talking about firearms, we’re not really talking about a right but an obligation, as creatures of God, to protect the life that was given them.” “

176 wilburs  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:45:12pm

re: #171 watching you tiny alien kittens are

I think he is confusing unreasoning certainty for faith here…

[Embedded content]

He must have missed that doubting Thomas thing

177 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:45:15pm

re: #168 wrenchwench

He makes you think its a gaffe….

I didn’t find it controversial.

178 jaunte  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:45:47pm

re: #171 watching you tiny alien kittens are

I think he is confusing unreasoning certainty for faith here…

[Embedded content]

“Please, no critical thinking, we’re Texans.”

179 Kragar  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:46:10pm

re: #164 Dark_Falcon

We all agreed that the Greater Good required LGF inviting in the Tau and driving out the corrupt Imperium.

///

Of course you know, this means war.

180 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:46:20pm

re: #178 jaunte

“Please, no critical thinking, we’re Texans.”

You’d be surprised who does that. :O

181 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:46:32pm

re: #171 watching you tiny alien kittens are

I think he is confusing unreasoning certainty for faith here…

[Embedded content]

Yeah, why question anything ever? //

183 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:47:51pm

re: #173 HappyWarrior

Yeah this guy was actually the son of a good friend of the head coach’s going way back to I believe their high school or college days. I miss Larranaga at Mason. My last semester was Hewitt’s first year so I don’t really have an opinion of him but Larranaga just was a character. He’s got this thick New York accent and likes to joke around with the reporters. I really hope Miami’s going well for him. While I was disappointed with the move, Fairfax, Va in winter or Miami, Florida. Easy choice and even easier one with the money he was offered.

I was always amused the few years I lived in D.C. (just south of Alexandria actually) how the sports coverage for college basketball in the Washington Post way outdid the coverage the Bullets got. Then again, with Georgetown, GW, Maryland, and Mason to cover that might not be so surprising.

184 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:48:11pm

re: #174 HoosierHoops

I never had good relations with reporters. They couldn’t print an accurate story for crap. One time the register printed an over the top story that had grandmas sending me post cards thanking me for inspiring them and what a wonderful boy I was…Jeez

I wouldn’t blame you heh if I had been an athlete. I always did try to quote accurately as possible. I really don’t blame athletes who don’t like talking with the press. I’m a pretty reserved guy and I’d probably just want to relax after a long game.

186 Kragar  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:48:20pm
187 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:48:53pm

re: #186 Kragar

Obvious proof of demons or something

Look at those arms too. What a weakling.

188 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:49:12pm

re: #186 Kragar

Obvious proof of demons or something

Might be a useful skill for getting past an obstacle or trip wire!

189 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:50:18pm

re: #183 Feline Fearless Leader

I was always amused the few years I lived in D.C. (just south of Alexandria actually) how the sports coverage for college basketball in the Washington Post way outdid the coverage the Bullets got. Then again, with Georgetown, GW, Maryland, and Mason to cover that might not be so surprising.

We’re just not a NBA area probably because the Wizards are more unsuccessful than not and those college teams are successful whether it was Thompson’s 80’s Hoyas, Gary Williams’s Terps, GW, or Coach L and Mason. I know very few diehard NBA fans. My Dad, the man who put the love of basketball in me took me and my brothers to a few games and he was just bored sick. But when I was living at Mason, I took him and my younger brothers to games and it was just a blast.

190 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:51:38pm

So, Yoga is the new thing to hate in the nutcases’ book. Fine, more single girls to meet for me!

191 jaunte  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:53:12pm

re: #190 HappyWarrior

Easier to spell than patchouli.

192 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:53:14pm

re: #183 Feline Fearless Leader

I was always amused the few years I lived in D.C. (just south of Alexandria actually) how the sports coverage for college basketball in the Washington Post way outdid the coverage the Bullets got. Then again, with Georgetown, GW, Maryland, and Mason to cover that might not be so surprising.

I suppose in an earlier age having a team called “The Bullets” would simply be an expression of accuracy or speed in the game. Somehow today it sounds crass to me.

193 Kragar  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:53:49pm

Ted Nugent Calls on Gun Owners to Channel Rosa Parks

In an interview with WorldNetDaily published today, Ted Nugent said that gun owners will channel Rosa Parks and defy any future “anti-American” law prohibiting certain assault weapons. He told WND that measures to reduce gun violence emerge from a “subhuman culture” that is “infesting our government and society.”

194 engineer cat  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:53:53pm

re: #185 Charles Johnson

Thou Shalt Not Commit Logical Fallacies

i never get to have any fun

195 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:54:10pm

re: #185 Charles Johnson

Thou Shalt Not Commit Logical Fallacies

They need one more icon. Composition/​division looks just like the strawman.

196 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:54:19pm

There’s always yoga pants.

197 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:54:54pm

re: #193 Kragar

Ted Nugent Calls on Gun Owners to Channel Rosa Parks

You know somehow I doubt Rosa Parks was calling her opponents subhuman. This is where she’s different from you almost immediately Teddy boy. Well that and I think Rosa Parks had enough dignity not to purposely shit her pants ever to get out of doing something.

198 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:54:56pm

re: #191 jaunte

Easier to spmell than patchouli.

FTFMe

199 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:56:10pm

re: #185 Charles Johnson

Thou Shalt Not Commit Logical Fallacies

So, what’s with the blatant anti religious stuff?/

200 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:56:31pm
201 jaunte  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:56:45pm

re: #185 Charles Johnson

There goes the entire GOP platform.
[Link: yourlogicalfallacyis.com…]

202 Kragar  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:57:04pm

In Wingnut world, Rosa Parks stood her ground and gun downed the punk who told her to move.

203 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:57:30pm

re: #192 Achilles Tang

I suppose in an earlier age having a team called “The Bullets” would simply be an expression of accuracy or speed in the game. Somehow today it sounds crass to me.

Referring to them as such dates me a bit towards when I was living in the area. I think our culture has made it more crass, as compared to it generally being considered a comparison for speed. Superman, after all, was faster than a speeding bullet.

204 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:57:55pm

re: #202 Kragar

In Wingnut world, Rosa Parks stood her ground and gun downed the punk who told her to move,

Yes. Turn your music down. BLAM, BLAM!

205 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:58:50pm

re: #200 Gus

So, Gus, you’re the expert. What is that supposed to be a silhouette of?
:)

206 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:59:36pm

207 jaunte  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:00:00pm

re: #200 Gus

Generic aircraft fallacy.

208 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:00:11pm

Gov. Jan Bruja surprises no one.

Gov. Jan Brewer said she won’t support any new laws to limit who can carry a gun, even in the wake of the killing of students and teachers in Connecticut.

“I’m a strong supporter of the Second Amendment,” the governor said Tuesday, which also was the second anniversary of the shootings in Tucson at a community event with then-Rep. Gabrielle Giffords that left six dead and others, including Giffords, permanently injured.

The governor acknowledged that in the face of those tragedies “people are concerned,” but said that should not translate into new restrictions.

[…]

That ‘Image Library’ is handy.

Image: brewer.jpg

209 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:00:11pm

re: #204 Gus

Yes. Turn your music down. BLAM, BLAM!

Now now, you don’t shoot the punk for loud music. You have the weird guy in the robes take care of the problem for you:

210 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:00:25pm

re: #207 jaunte

Generic aircraft fallacy.

Phallicy.

211 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:00:36pm

re: #208 wrenchwench

Gov. Jan Bruja surprises no one.

That ‘Image Library’ is handy.

Image: brewer.jpg

GAH! Who opened the Ark of the Covenant?!

212 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:00:43pm

re: #205 Feline Fearless Leader

So, Gus, you’re the expert. What is that supposed to be a silhouette of?
:)

Early B-47?

213 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:01:09pm
214 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:01:34pm

re: #211 Targetpractice

GAH! Who opened the Ark of the Covenant?!

That’s what I said when I clicked on Gus’s yoga pants link.

215 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:02:22pm

re: #214 wrenchwench

That’s what I said when I clicked on Gus’s yoga pants link.

I can’t deny my sexual identity. :D

216 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:03:27pm
217 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:04:26pm

re: #193 Kragar

Ted Nugent Calls on Gun Owners to Channel Rosa Parks

Should it be pointed out that Parks allowed herself to be arrested? How many of these punks would be willing to spend a night or two in the clink for their “cause”?

218 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:04:52pm

re: #205 Feline Fearless Leader

So, Gus, you’re the expert. What is that supposed to be a silhouette of?
:)

Peace. See, no bombs.

219 jaunte  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:05:11pm

☾ over Parador

220 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:05:31pm

re: #212 Gus

Early B-47?

Wing too far back for a B-47 I think. That looks more like something like a generic airliner like a 727.

221 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:05:53pm

re: #216 wrenchwench

WTF is this? ☏

/

Bat phone of course.

222 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:06:12pm

re: #216 wrenchwench

WTF is this? ☏

/

Looks like a rotary phone.

223 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:06:22pm

re: #208 wrenchwench

Gov. Jan Bruja surprises no one.

That ‘Image Library’ is handy.

Image: brewer.jpg

Would be a great ad for botox.

224 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:06:54pm

re: #217 Targetpractice

Should it be pointed out that Parks allowed herself to be arrested? How many of these punks would be willing to spend a night or two in the clink for their “cause”?

Not just a jail but a Bull Connor jail. That woman was incredibly brave. Ted Nugent? Just a cowardly fuck who gets his kicks calling those who disagree with him subhuman and not realizing he sounds more like a Nazi than those he disagrees with.

225 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:07:53pm

re: #220 Feline Fearless Leader

Wing too far back for a B-47 I think. That looks more like something like a generic airliner like a 727.

Actually, the B-47’s wing sweep is greater than this. You can see the 4 engine housings. On a 727 top view you would see two side engines in the very tail end of the fuselage including a slight bulge for the engine located on the vertical stabilizer and tail.

226 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:07:57pm

Hmmmm…

News accounts Wednesday of the discovery of ten tons of marijuana inside an abandoned mechanic’s shop in eastern Tijuana had a surprising twist: The drugs had been confiscated before, they stated.

But hours later after reporters were called Tuesday to document the seizure carried by members of the Baja California State Preventive Police—the largest drug seizure so far this year in Tijuana—the agency’s top officer cautioned against jumping to any conclusions.

“It’s not up to us to say whether it had been confiscated or not,” said Marco Antonio Montoya. “That’s up to the PGR,” he said, using the initials of the Mexican attorney general’s office.

[…]

227 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:08:44pm

re: #213 Gus

Facebook Symbols (cool ❅ text character codes)

I don’t see one for Iphone.

228 Kragar  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:08:46pm

re: #209 Targetpractice

“fascinate” ultimately derives from Latin fascinum and the related verb fascinare, “to use the power of the fascinus.”

The Fascinus was the Roman term for the divine phallus.

229 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:08:47pm

Wing sweep not angle of attack. Sorry. I iz in cocktail mode.

230 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:08:59pm

re: #225 Gus

Actually, the B-47’s angle of attack is greater than this. You can see the 4 engine housings. On a 727 top view you would see two side engines in the very tail end of the fuselage including a slight bulge for the engine located on the vertical stabilizer and tail.

It still utterly amazes me, looking at pictures of it, that the B-47 ever flew without falling apart.

231 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:09:11pm

re: #225 Gus

Actually, the B-47’s wing sweep is greater than this. You can see the 4 engine housings. On a 727 top view you would see two side engines in the very tail end of the fuselage including a slight bulge for the engine located on the vertical stabilizer and tail.

pedant.

233 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:09:53pm

re: #225 Gus

Actually, the B-47’s wing sweep is greater than this. You can see the 4 engine housings. On a 727 top view you would see two side engines in the very tail end of the fuselage including a slight bulge for the engine located on the vertical stabilizer and tail.

Of course this is assuming that it is based on an actual aircraft and not simply an artistic doodle. :)

234 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:10:20pm

re: #233 Feline Fearless Leader

Of course this is assuming that it is based on an actual aircraft and not simply an artistic doodle. :)

That too.

235 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:10:54pm

Image: h2C2641CB.jpg

Later, lizards.

236 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:11:52pm

re: #231 Achilles Tang

pedant.

Wah wah pedal.

237 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:13:47pm

re: #234 Gus

That too.

If you drop down to smaller stuff it is a bit like a Hawker Hunter.

238 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:16:05pm

re: #225 Gus

Actually, the B-47’s wing sweep is greater than this. You can see the 4 engine housings. On a 727 top view you would see two side engines in the very tail end of the fuselage including a slight bulge for the engine located on the vertical stabilizer and tail.

A 727 does not have a third engine on the tail. That’s a DC10 (me pedant).

239 dragonath  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:16:38pm

With all the maniacal Obama comparisons I’m seeing on Google, I’m amazed that no one’s made a Stalin/Hitler/Obama composite yet.

There’s pictures of all three lined up like Emerson, Lake and Palmer, but not that.

240 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:18:04pm

re: #237 Feline Fearless Leader

If you drop down to smaller stuff it is a bit like a Hawker Hunter.

Showing your age you are.

241 jaunte  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:19:24pm

U.S. Ranks Below 16 Other Rich Countries In Health Report

It’s no news that the U.S. has lower life expectancy and higher infant mortality than most high-income countries. But a magisterial new report says Americans are actually less healthy across their entire life spans than citizens of 16 other wealthy nations.

And the gap is steadily widening.
………………….
The report notes that murder rates involving guns are 20 times higher in the U.S. than in 22 other rich countries.

242 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:19:28pm

re: #240 Achilles Tang

Showing your age you are.

Heh. Just aware of aircraft of that era because my father was in a squadron that flew F2Hs.

243 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:22:03pm

re: #238 Achilles Tang

A 727 does not have a third engine on the tail. That’s a DC10 (me pedant).

727 has an engine that goes from the top of the fuselage and base of the vertical stabilizer at the intake of the engine. It then curves down to the tail of the fuselage centerpoint. It has three (3) engines.

244 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:25:10pm

re: #243 Gus

727 has an engine that goes from the top of the fuselage and base of the vertical stabilizer at the intake of the engine. It then curves down to the tail of the fuselage centerpoint. It has three (3) engines.

You are right. I was wrong. Sigh.

245 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:25:35pm

Another firing at ESPN.. Just another day..
[Link: profootballtalk.nbcsports.com…]

246 stabby  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:26:25pm

You know when people make posts that are just horrific quotes from wingnuts I feel torn between an up-ding for pointing them out or a down-ding for the idea.

I want there to be a button between up and down labeled :/ for those occasions.

247 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:26:28pm

re: #244 Achilles Tang

You are right. I was wrong. Sigh.

Why sigh?

248 jaunte  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:30:11pm

re: #246 stabby

I’ve seen this used:

o_O

249 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:31:02pm

Boeing 727 Landing

I’d call that a short approach. Nyet?

250 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:33:24pm

re: #245 HoosierHoops

*waves at the Hoopster*

251 stabby  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:36:47pm

re: #248 jaunte

That’s good too, but it’s :/ that I feel the strongest.

I want a :/ button and a :/ count that is separate from the plus and minus.

Think of it as approval times i

252 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:37:09pm

re: #249 Gus

Boeing 727 Landing

[Embedded content]

I’d call that a short approach. Nyet?

I’m surprised his glasses didn’t slide off the dashboard.

253 stabby  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:40:40pm

if this was a really nerdy site, then we’d end up with a lot of approval ratings of e^i

254 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:41:13pm

re: #250 Dancing along the light of day

*waves at the Hoopster*

What’s cooking good looking? Got my knee scoped today..LCL is stretched not torn..Love the Oxy script..I love everybody :)

255 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:42:00pm

re: #252 Feline Fearless Leader

I’m surprised his glasses didn’t slide off the dashboard.

That’s a sign of awesome pilotage. Keeping the ball centered.

256 freetoken  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:46:32pm

re: #253 stabby

if this was a really nerdy site, then we’d end up with a lot of approval ratings of e^i

That would be ℯ

257 Lidane  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:51:49pm

OW. OW. OW.

Feet = sore. Phone = dead. But my time here at CES has been productive, so it’s worth it.

Went over to Caesars Palace tonight to unwind. Dinner and drinks at Sushi Roku, dessert at Trevi. Walked around the shops. I like this city. Wouldn’t want to live here, but I will definitely come back again.

258 Kragar  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:51:52pm

So finally saw Dredd.

Not bad all things considering. They took the basic idea from the original Judge Giant appearance and replaced it with Judge Anderson.

259 Lidane  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:52:28pm

Also, this bit of derp is making the rounds on FB courtesy of that twit Victoria Jackson. Apparently she has a talk show:

[Link: www.facebook.com…]

260 Gus  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:52:45pm

re: #256 freetoken

That would be ℯ

261 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:52:57pm

re: #254 HoosierHoops

Giggles, drug induced, it must be!

262 freetoken  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 10:25:32pm

I kind of liked the old iron token:

Hasbro aims to jazz up Monopoly with new token

[…]

Up for elimination: all eight current tokens including a battleship, iron, racecar, Scottie dog, shoe, thimble, top hat and wheelbarrow. Most tokens were introduced with the first Parker Brothers iteration of the game in 1935, and the Scottie dog and wheelbarrow were added in the early 1950s.

[…]

I’d say get rid of the battleship (which doesn’t really belong in a game about domestic living.)

263 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 10:31:14pm

re: #261 Dancing along the light of day

Giggles, drug induces, it must be!

As rain gently pulses on the window and I took my sleeping pills..It’s time to doze off
This stuff rocks! Every night is a vibrant real life dream.. Like Wizard of Oz dreams and stuff..What will happen tonight?

264 Kragar  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 11:31:56pm

Tonight’s 40k trivia:

Istvaan III Atrocity

The Istvaan III Atrocity, also known as the Battle of Istvaan III to Imperial scholars, was the treacherous military campaign conducted by the Chaos-corrupted Warmaster Horus on the rebellious Civilised World of Istvaan III that served both to amass those forces loyal to him without suspicion, and also cull those elements within the ranks of the Traitor Legions whose loyalties he suspected as remaining true to the Emperor of Mankind. The destruction of Istvaan III by virus-bombing and the subsequent internecine battle that followed between the Sons of Horus, Death Guard, Emperor’s Children and World Eaters Traitor Legions and their own Loyalist elements was the first overt sign of Horus’ turn to Chaos, and the first battle of the Horus Heresy in the early 31st Millennium.

265 freetoken  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 11:35:48pm
266 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 11:43:37pm

The FBI and Secret Service should probably keep tabs on this dude:

267 stabby  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 11:44:10pm

re: #259 Lidane

Also, this bit of derp is making the rounds on FB courtesy of that twit Victoria Jackson. Apparently she has a talk show:

[Link: www.facebook.com…]

Why is it that these super religious people are less generous, more greedy and hate their neighbors more than normal people?

It occurred to me today that as much as the right wing christians tell people that they should be totally independent, and take no responsibility for the environment nor the welfare of their country nor its people, on the other hand they insist that people be 100% dependent, infantilized in fact, depending on a fictional God to take care of one’s every need.

So people are to be responsible for nothing and no one, and God is ordered to be responsible for everyone and everything… What a paradox. How would they know if God told them to fuck off and take care of their responsibilities themselves?

268 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 12:19:31am

re: #262 freetoken

I kind of liked the old iron token:

Hasbro aims to jazz up Monopoly with new token

I’d say get rid of the battleship (which doesn’t really belong in a game about domestic living.)

No f*cking way. I always play the battleship.

269 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 12:22:51am

re: #153 wrenchwench

Caption contest?

270 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 12:28:16am

re: #95 HappyWarrior

I don’t really hate Tebow but I do hate being told I have to like him because he’s a Christian and a good guy. If Tebow had the same character but was a Dawkins style Atheist, would he get all the love he did? I think not. That’s not a slight on Tebow so much as it is on people who think good and Christian are inherently connected. There are indeed good Christians but there are also good Atheists, Hindus, Jews, Muslims, etc and bad of each too. Plus I have to admit I have a huge problem with Tebow’s father speaking so ignorantly of the Philippines as he did in the SI article I read when TT was still at UF claiming that most of the people of that nation don’t know Jesus Christ. I took that as a very anti Catholic statement considering that most of that nation is Catholic.

This also comes from a society in which people who are highly prude and sexually repressed (or have a minimal to nonexistent sex drive) are seen as more moral than people who are not.

And a society in which people with money are better at cover up their sexual quirks and transgressions better than lower classes.

They can afford to travel more than 100 miles from home in order to misbehave… they can also buy off their pregnant mistresses/girlfriends with gifts and settlement packages, or send their pregnant daughters away to visit an auntie in another state until things blow over.

271 freetoken  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:47:59am

Tchaikovsky’s opus 19, no.4:

272 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:07:50am

that was close, FT, we were near flatline here.

273 freetoken  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:55:00am
274 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 4:20:12am
275 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 4:21:20am
276 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 4:37:20am

re: #275 Vicious Babushka

Tel Aviv explosion: attempted mob hit.

A bit OT, but this is a problem I have with “hate crime” legislation…motivation plays a role in sentencing, but if, for example a gang member kills another gang member, and one of them is black and the other is white, is it racial violence, gang violence, or just a drug deal gone wrong?

277 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 4:46:34am

re: #276 Sol Berdinowitz

A bit OT, but this is a problem I have with “hate crime” legislation…motivation plays a role in sentencing, but if, for example a gang member kills another gang member, and one of them is black and the other is white, is it racial violence, gang violence, or just a drug deal gone wrong?

All or some of the above.

278 freetoken  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 5:23:58am

Noticing that there are mountains of deceptive web pages in the genealogy field. Anything to make a buck.

279 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 5:28:40am

re: #267 stabby

Why is it that these super religious people are less generous, more greedy and hate their neighbors more than normal people?

Well, not all super religious people are that way. But for these people their religion is just an excuse. They pretty much started off less generous, more greedy and hating their neighbors more. They also know that attitude is frowned upon. But by tying their weaknesses to God (Allah to Zeus, take your pick) they now have an excuse to act the way they do.

Actually any ideology will fill this need. Capitalism, Communism, The Second Amendment, etc. ad nauseum, will do.

280 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 5:43:29am

re: #26 Achilles Tang

Talking of idiocy, here’s the day’s headline from loon central at wnd:

TED NUGENT: ‘GUN OWNERS NEXT ROSA PARKS’

Talk about spin for morons.

Ah, yes, because Rosa Parks had endless rights, a lobby, & mindless hoards of followers/worshipers and then she was responsible for countless murders. Why do teabaggers suck at making analogies?

281 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 5:45:57am

re: #266 goddamnedfrank

The FBI and Secret Service should probably keep tabs on this dude:

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I actually USE to subscribe to his videos because he provided good advice on firearm maintenance, cleaning, etc. Over the last month he has become unhinged.

282 Jimmah  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 5:47:17am

re: #51 Achilles Tang

I only just now listened to the white haired oracle. I am not surprised but I have to make the obvious observation that he equates “spanking” kids with mass murder and destruction (by a loving god).

There was a smiling woman in Florida the last day or two who barely survived an airplane crashing into and destroying her home. She was so happy to to explain, in front of her destroyed home, that this was a proof of God’s existens. Not once did she mention that her god killed the three people in that plane in order to bring her the message.

Sick.

Fischer and others who believe that God talks to them by killing other people and their children are demon worshippers.

283 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 5:53:52am

re: #282 Jimmah

Fischer and others who believe that God talks to them by killing other people and their children - they are demon worshippers.

One man’s demon can be another man’s god.

284 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 5:54:54am

The Big Tebowski debate was another one that led from the assertion of the religious right that America was out to ban religious expression from public life.
He was their poster child.

That is far from the case, the issue was government-sanctioned and sponsored public expressions of faith.

There is a difference, namely the difference between the freedom to practive your religion and the ability to impose it on others.

But if you believe that the Pilgrims came to America to esxcercise their freedom of religion, you will buy that argument.

285 ProBosniaLiberal  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 5:55:23am

Apparently, Apophis is a little bigger in diameter, and a lot bigger in mass than originally anticipated.

That means all the models will have to be redone with the new data.

287 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 5:58:13am

re: #284 Sol Berdinowitz

The Big Tebowski debate was another one that led from the assertion of the religious right that America was out to ban religious expression from public life.
He was their poster child.

That is far from the case, the issue was government-sanctioned and sponsored public expressions of faith.

There is a difference, namely the difference between the freedom to practive your religion and the ability to impose it on others.

But if you believe that the Pilgrims came to America to esxcercise their freedom of religion, you will buy that argument.

The was one of the Pilgrims major reasons, yes. Not the only one, but the critical one.

288 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:05:40am

Oooh I got rage-dinged by linuxguru for not loving the spambot!

289 Jimmah  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:07:24am

re: #288 Vicious Babushka

Oooh I got rage-dinged by linuxguru for not loving the spambot!

Join the club.

290 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:09:32am

re: #287 Dark_Falcon

The was one of the Pilgrims major reasons, yes. Not the only one, but the critical one.

The other one being, heh, not letting other people exercise their religions…or lives…freely.

291 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:10:14am

re: #275 Vicious Babushka

Tel Aviv explosion: attempted mob hit.

It’s snowing in Jerusalem, but in Chicago the skies are bone dry. #%*& jetstream.

292 Jimmah  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:10:27am

Spambot fanboi roll call:

alinuxguru, Buck (Buck), ckkatz, Eclectic Infidel (eclectic infidel), kmg, sliv_the_eli

There’s clearly something about that spambot that thrills them.

293 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:10:59am

re: #290 The Ghost of a Flea

The other one being, heh, not letting other people exercise their religions…or lives…freely.

Where do you get THAT from?

294 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:13:24am

re: #292 Jimmah

Spambot fanboi roll call:

alinuxguru, Buck (Buck), ckkatz, Eclectic Infidel (eclectic infidel), kmg, sliv_the_eli, Dark_Falcon.

There’s clearly something about that spambot that thrills them.

Edit for completeness. I updinged the bot because I thought the story to be worth reading. When the bot posts things I think are BS I downding it.

295 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:16:58am

re: #288 Vicious Babushka

Oooh I got rage-dinged by linuxguru for not loving the spambot!

Counter-ding applied.

296 darthstar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:18:48am

Mornin’ everyone.

297 Jimmah  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:19:39am

re: #294 Dark_Falcon

Edit for completeness. I updinged the bot because I thought the story to be worth reading. When the bot posts things I think are BS I downding it.

Very fair minded of you to reward the unresponsive website-gaming spambot with an upding when it ‘does well’.

298 darthstar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:20:09am

Another gun death…and it was an open-carry poster mom.

299 ProBosniaLiberal  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:21:34am

Meanwhile, we get a vision of what the Republican Party would like to turn the US into regarding women.

Important POS’s in India give stupid, insipid thoughts.

300 darthstar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:22:15am

re: #298 darthstar

Another gun death…and it was an open-carry poster mom.

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Should have been a link, not a video

A mother of three who became a voice of the gun-rights movement when she openly carried a loaded pistol to her daughter’s soccer game was fatally shot along with her husband, a parole officer and former prison guard, in an apparent murder-suicide at their home.

301 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:25:25am

re: #293 Dark_Falcon

Where do you get THAT from?

The slavery, the more-woman-hatin’-than usual theology of the Scrooby Congregation, and the, you know, the slavery.

302 Jimmah  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:26:26am

Gotta boost - later folks.

303 darthstar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:27:17am

re: #301 The Ghost of a Flea

The slavery, the more-woman-hatin’-than usual theology of the Scrooby Congregation, and the, you know, the slavery.

You forgot slavery…big bidness!

304 ProBosniaLiberal  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:28:17am

re: #299 ProBosniaLiberal

And it confirms that the BJP are a bunch of scum.

I knew a classless piece of trash at OU who bragged about being a descendant of Brahmins, and having left India because his family didn’t want to pay to help in abolishing the Caste System. Was also a BJP and Republican Party supporter.

Would come to the Alpha Phi Omega Meetings drunk off his ass. Also, claimed to be some big thug, even though he came from Farmington Hills, Michigan. I am likely more hardcore than him.

305 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:28:44am

re: #301 The Ghost of a Flea

The slavery, the more-woman-hatin’-than usual theology of the Scrooby Congregation, and the, you know, the slavery.

Slavery was a later Puritan import. It is my understanding that the Mayflower didn’t carry any slaves.

306 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:30:09am

re: #305 Dark_Falcon

Slavery was a later Puritan import. It is my understanding that the Mayflower didn’t carry any slaves.

The first slave ship landed at Jamestown IIRC. “Before the Mayflower”

307 darthstar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:30:32am

I love linux…the mousepad on my HP Mini was only left-clicking, so I did some googlin’,,,a couple of ‘synclient’ commands later I’ve got two finger scroll, horizontal scroll, and two finger right-click.

308 Ian G.  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:30:36am

re: #291 Dark_Falcon

It’s snowing in Jerusalem, but in Chicago the skies are bone dry. #%*& jetstream.

Apparently China is getting a brutal winter.

Call me a pathetic romantic, but one thing (one of the lesser things) I worry about is the end of snow in NYC. There’s nothing more wonderful than walking through Central Park or Prospect Park after a good 6 inches has fallen.

So far this year, zilch has collected since the post-election day snow. It’s in the 40s here, at the time of year that’s supposed to be the coldest.

309 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:31:23am

re: #305 Dark_Falcon

Slavery was a later Puritan import. It is my understanding that the Mayflower didn’t carry any slaves.

Then we may just have a misunderstanding of language. I was under the impression that “the Pilgrims” as a label emanates from the “Pilgrim Fathers” of Plymouth Colony, not from the Mayflower specifically.

310 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:32:44am

re: #299 ProBosniaLiberal

Meanwhile, we get a vision of what the Republican Party would like to turn the US into regarding women.

Important POS’s in India give stupid, insipid thoughts.

Repeated from last night:

Summary of the DERPs in that article: The woman was a slut and anyway it’s all China’s fault for getting Indian’s to eat Chow Mein noodles!

/spits

311 darthstar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:33:39am

re: #305 Dark_Falcon

Slavery was a later Puritan import. It is my understanding that the Mayflower didn’t carry any slaves.

No, it was filled with couches, old sports equipment, and mattresses.
Image: move.jpg

312 iossarian  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:33:56am

re: #308 Ian G.

Apparently China is getting a brutal winter.

Call me a pathetic romantic, but one thing (one of the lesser things) I worry about is the end of snow in NYC. There’s nothing more wonderful than walking through Central Park or Prospect Park after a good 6 inches has fallen.

So far this year, zilch has collected since the post-election day snow. It’s in the 40s here, at the time of year that’s supposed to be the coldest.

A lot of cultural touchstones are going to go away.

It’s interesting that some cultures (I’m thinking Northern European/Christian) will potentially suffer more loss than others (Mediterranean/Near East).

313 iossarian  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:35:25am

re: #310 Dark_Falcon

Repeated from last night:

Summary of the DERPs in that article: The woman was a slut and anyway it’s all China’s fault for getting Indian’s to eat Chow Mein noodles!

/spits

I see the latest development over there is that the defense lawyers (or one of them, anyway) are trying to get the case thrown out on the grounds that their clients were tortured into making confessions.

Yay torture!

314 ProBosniaLiberal  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:35:34am

re: #310 Dark_Falcon

Being as despise the PRC, can’t really get upset with them bashing China.

315 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:35:43am

re: #298 darthstar

Another gun death…and it was an open-carry poster mom.

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Only if there was a “good person” with a gun around to protect her…..this would have never happened.

316 darthstar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:35:45am

re: #309 The Ghost of a Flea

Then we may just have a misunderstanding of language. I was under the impression that “the Pilgrims” as a label emanates from the “Pilgrim Fathers” of Plymouth Colony, not from the Mayflower specifically.

It was all about elbow room

317 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:36:01am

re: #306 Vicious Babushka

The first slave ship landed at Jamestown IIRC. “Before the Mayflower”

Yes, but Jamestown was a separate colony and the Pilgrims could not control what Jamestown did.

318 darthstar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:38:36am

re: #315 Dr. Matt

Only if there was a “good person” with a gun around to protect her…..this would have never happened.

It’s anecdotal, but one would think that there could be some correlation between gun deaths and gun culture (and by gun culture I mean people who are so gun centric as to carry them to soccer games as a badge of honor or buy assault rifles because they really love the power)…but that’s all just speculation.

319 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:39:15am

re: #314 ProBosniaLiberal

Being as despise the PRC, can’t really get upset with them bashing China.

It’s OK to bash the Chinese government, but not to bash Chinese culture and food in general. The former is justified, the latter is a mark of bigotry. It’s stupid too, because it insults democracy activists and dissidents in the same way and the CCP. So what words like that end up doing is earning scorn and mockery in the West, and fueling nationalist anger in China.

320 iossarian  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:40:16am

re: #318 darthstar

It’s anecdotal, but one would think that there could be some correlation between gun deaths and gun culture (and by gun culture I mean people who are so gun centric as to carry them to soccer games as a badge of honor or buy assault rifles because they really love the power)…but that’s all just speculation.

If only there was some kind of statistic that showed that people who live in a country with such a culture are far more likely to die violently than people in other countries.

How useful that would be!

321 Jolo5309  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:41:42am

re: #268 Sol Berdinowitz

No f*cking way. I always play the battleship.

Friends don’t let friends play Monopoly

322 ProBosniaLiberal  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:41:54am

re: #319 Dark_Falcon

See, I get a bit of joy out of bringing up the fact that China has been occupied, or been someone’s tributary state more often than Poland. I despise Sino-Centrism, as it has no merit.

323 darthstar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:42:16am

re: #320 iossarian

If only there was some kind of statistic that showed that people who live in a country with such a culture are far more likely to die violently than people in other countries.

How useful that would be!

You’re not going to let 31,000 bad apples spoil the whole barrel.

324 darthstar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:43:57am

re: #322 ProBosniaLiberal

See, I get a bit of joy out of bringing up the fact that China has been occupied, or been someone’s tributary state more often than Poland. I despise Sino-Centrism, as it has no merit.

Damnit…I forgot Poland!

325 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:44:22am

re: #307 darthstar

I love linux…the mousepad on my HP Mini was only left-clicking, so I did some googlin’,,,a couple of ‘synclient’ commands later I’ve got two finger scroll, horizontal scroll, and two finger right-click.

That’s better than me. After updating to 12.10, my trackpad basically no longer works & a USB mouse gives the same errors. I went into the bios and enabled the PS/2 port on this antique and an old Gateway mouse (with holstien colored box on it ;) functions correctly. There is, of course, nothing about this that I can find.

326 iossarian  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:44:39am

OH MY GOSH

There is such a statistic as the one I was wishing for, just moments ago!

Gun-related death rates in the United States are eight times higher than they are in countries that are economically and politically similar to it […]

Fascinating! I wonder if anyone else is aware of this!

327 ProBosniaLiberal  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:44:53am

re: #324 darthstar

Being part-Polish (among many other things), I am proud of their history.

328 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:45:02am

re: #266 goddamnedfrank

The FBI and Secret Service should probably keep tabs on this dude:

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Screw you, jock-boy Yeager, screw you with a red-hot poker. A real killer needs to be cool; believe me, I know. You bellicose jock boys are looking for a fight in a bar (preferably one you know will not tolerate fighting, therefore leaving you safe from the consequences of your posturing). War is something different entirely. Yes, I know Yeager is a vet but he is playing to an audience of psycho-sexual head cases.

329 darthstar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:47:22am

re: #327 ProBosniaLiberal

Being part-Polish (among many other things), I am proud of their history.

I just like saying, ‘I forgot Poland!’

330 ProBosniaLiberal  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:48:58am

re: #329 darthstar

I know why. :P

331 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:52:22am

re: #322 ProBosniaLiberal

See, I get a bit of joy out of bringing up the fact that China has been occupied, or been someone’s tributary state more often than Poland. I despise Sino-Centrism, as it has no merit.

Try not to take pleasure in the problems of others like that. It causes the anger you feel to linger in your mind and being angry all the time isn’t good for you. Getting past that kind of cheap anger takes time, but I’ve found its well worth doing and something you need to do to interact successfully with others.

332 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:55:45am

Wingnut Bizarro World History:

333 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 6:58:42am

re: #332 Vicious Babushka

Wingnut Bizarro World History:

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*subsequent migration of racist Democrats and racist policy to the Republican Party totally didn’t happen.
**What is this “Southern Strategy” that you speak of?

334 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 7:06:13am

Another wingnut fake quote. (but they will keep on repeating it anyway, over and over, ad nauseum.

335 iossarian  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 7:06:46am

re: #333 The Ghost of a Flea

The insistence that the Southern Democrats of the 1950s are somehow the same as the contemporary national Democratic party is highly annoying in its own right, but it also illustrates the inability on the part of some conservatives to understand that things (people, ideas, movements) change and evolve over time.

This lack of awareness is obviously also reflected in attitudes towards scientific advance, changes in social norms and so on.

336 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 7:13:53am

re: #332 Vicious Babushka

Wingnut Bizarro World History:

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The weird thing is that the original article is from the AP and The Blaze didn’t load it down with DERP, for a rarity. So Glen Beck’s site essentially noted the matter in passing in a reasonable way and still a wingnut freaks out. I don’t get it, its just too insane.

337 darthstar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 7:27:44am

Did DF kill the thread or is everyone just gainfully employed these days?

338 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 7:28:31am

I asseume everyone is getting more coffee…break is over for me already.

339 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 7:29:01am

re: #338 Sol Berdinowitz

I asseume everyone is getting more coffee…break is over for me already.

Then get back on your head!

340 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 7:35:36am

Good morning Lizards.

Sunny in Philadelphia, still a sinus mess in my head. Ready to install an aquarium pump there to see if that would help. (refer: recent xkcd cartoon)

Need moar coffee.

On a positive front the posted bacon-wrapped meatloaf from last night came out quite well. Sufficient leftovers for a few more meals and making sandwiches. :)

341 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 7:37:48am

re: #340 Feline Fearless Leader

That sounds really tasty.

342 darthstar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 7:39:27am

re: #340 Feline Fearless Leader

Good morning Lizards.

Sunny in Philadelphia, still a sinus mess in my head. Ready to install an aquarium pump there to see if that would help. (refer: recent xkcd cartoon)

Need moar coffee.

On a positive front the posted bacon-wrapped meatloaf from last night came out quite well. Sufficient leftovers for a few more meals and making sandwiches. :)

I made some bisquick biscuits (takes all of 15 minutes) a few weeks ago and used the leftover meatloaf to make little sliders. They were tasty, though one of my dogs, Fozzie, thought I didn’t need that many and finished the meatloaf while I was enjoying my first slider in another room…and half the biscuits.

343 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 7:41:38am

re: #342 darthstar

I made some bisquick biscuits (takes all of 15 minutes) a few weeks ago and used the leftover meatloaf to make little sliders. They were tasty, though one of my dogs, Fozzie, thought I didn’t need that many and finished the meatloaf while I was enjoying my first slider in another room…and half the biscuits.

One of my cats had a thing for biscuits. Was brazen enough to once walk across my lap while sitting on the sofa in order to steal one off a plate. The biscuits were the small-ish Pop-n-Fresh ones where the dough came out of a cardboard tube. I used to make those using the toaster oven for snacking purposes. (I keep meatloaf away from the cats since I use a lot of onion and garlic in it.)

344 makeitstop  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 7:42:55am

‘Morning, Lizards.

It’s positively Spring-like here on LI. Nearly 50 degrees in the dead of January. More than a little concerning.

I’m noticing a shit-ton of ‘Obama as Hitler’ pics on Facebook this morning. Gun nuts have gone wall to wall Godwin, like a little mob of Alex Jonses…

They really have zero idea how unhinged they look. Any moderates logging onto FB this morning must be appalled.

I hope everyone’s morning is going well.

345 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 7:44:11am

re: #343 Feline Fearless Leader

One of my cats had a thing for biscuits. Was brazen enough to once walk across my lap while sitting on the sofa in order to steal one off a plate. The biscuits were the small-ish Pop-n-Fresh ones where the dough came out of a cardboard tube. I used to make those using the toaster oven for snacking purposes. (I keep meatloaf away from the cats since I use a lot of onion and garlic in it.)

Has the quest for a new overlord to submit to begun?

346 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 7:45:01am

re: #344 makeitstop

‘Morning, Lizards.

It’s positively Spring-like here on LI. Nearly 50 degrees in the dead of January. More than a little concerning.

I’m noticing a shit-ton of ‘Obama as Hitler’ pics on Facebook this morning. Gun nuts have gone wall to wall Godwin, like a little mob of Alex Jonses…

They really have zero idea how unhinged they look. Any moderates logging onto FB this morning must be appalled.

I hope everyone’s morning is going well.

I am seeing that on Twitter along with the usual shit ton of bogus quotes and Bizarro alternative-universe history, and the massive projection (“liberals” don’t know history, “liberals” don’t pay attention to facts, etc.).

347 darthstar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 7:45:45am
348 Mattand  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 7:47:56am

re: #344 makeitstop

‘Morning, Lizards.

It’s positively Spring-like here on LI. Nearly 50 degrees in the dead of January. More than a little concerning.

I’m noticing a shit-ton of ‘Obama as Hitler’ pics on Facebook this morning. Gun nuts have gone wall to wall Godwin, like a little mob of Alex Jonses…

They really have zero idea how unhinged they look. Any moderates logging onto FB this morning must be appalled.

I hope everyone’s morning is going well.

Most of the people I know who claim they’re moderate immediately go full Magic Balance Fairy when they see stuff like that. Usually go with the “Well, liberals said that about Bush, so no difference.”

Of course, the problem is the Godwinists in the Democratic Party weren’t steering the boat, unlike the current GOP.

Many of my fellow Americans don’t do nuance well.

349 iossarian  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 7:48:02am

re: #347 darthstar

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350 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 7:49:18am

re: #345 Dark_Falcon

Has the quest for a new overlord to submit to begun?

Sort of. There’s a no-kill shelter in Philly that does adoptions. So I need to print out an application and then go down there on a weekend. Probably this one or next. Also taking advantage of the lull to sort out a few closets and take some cat-proofing measures under the assumption that new overlords will be more agile and inquisitive than the previous residents who were somewhat less spry due to age.

351 darthstar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 7:51:49am

re: #349 iossarian

FUNEM
OSVFM
FUNEX
OSVFX
OKMNX

If you think that’s going to get you a free ticket to the Louvre so you can look for an albino monk fergeddaboudit.

352 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 7:54:40am

re: #350 Feline Fearless Leader

Sort of. There’s a no-kill shelter in Philly that does adoptions. So I need to print out an application and then go down there on a weekend. Probably this one or next. Also taking advantage of the lull to sort out a few closets and take some cat-proofing measures under the assumption that new overlords will be more agile and inquisitive than the previous residents who were somewhat less spry due to age.

True, though of course the degree of desire to explore does also depend on the temperament of the individual cat.

353 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 7:55:14am

*face palm*


1. It’s winter.
2. If not for melting sea ice, orca pod would have never gone in there.

354 iossarian  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 7:56:32am

re: #351 darthstar

If you think that’s going to get you a free ticket to the Louvre so you can look for an albino monk fergeddaboudit.

I was in the Louvre quite recently and was mildly disappointed that there weren’t any murderous friars running around trying to overthrow WORLD GOVERNMENT.

Only mildly though, because I had my kids with me and they might have found that upsetting, and a distraction from the rather fine artworks on display.

355 jaunte  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 7:58:08am

re: #353 Vicious Babushka

The orcas are now loose:

A dozen killer whales that were trapped in the ice in northern Quebec are now free.

Animal lovers around the world had been worrying about the fate of the orcas, trapped 30 kilometres off the coast of the Inuit village of Inukjuak, on the eastern shore of the Hudson Bay.

The community was planning this morning to send a team in a risky operation to widen the hole but instead found that the ice had broken loose and the orcas gone, said local resident Peter Qumaluk.
[Link: www.theglobeandmail.com…]

356 jaunte  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 7:58:46am

re: #353 Vicious Babushka

Derping behind the news.

357 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 7:59:01am

re: #352 Dark_Falcon

True, though of course the degree of desire to explore does also depend on the temperament of the individual cat.

I’d expect any cat limited to a 2-bedroom apartment to eventually desire to worm into the one walk-in closet simply to see what is there. And one with any jumping ability will get over the initial wall of boxes that was keeping the previous denizens out. (Though when I initially moved in here the two siamese were all over that closet - some of my suit coats still have extra fur from where one of them found a nice hidey-hole to snooze in. 3’ off the floor on top of a few packing boxes to lie on an unused cushion with two suit coats on either side for additional warmth and security. Reached after running a maze of other boxes and items that were usually not that stable of a structure.)

358 jaunte  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:01:26am

Today’s amazing Australia photos:
[Link: news.sky.com…]

359 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:03:08am

re: #355 jaunte

The orcas are now loose:

That’s good but I’d hoped for another day. Just long enough to bring Bryan Fischer up that place and throw him in with the killer whales. Then he’d have finally been useful for something.

///entirely kidding

360 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:03:24am

re: #353 Vicious Babushka

*face palm*

Catastrophic global warming: Cold kills 180,000 Chinese cows, killer whales trapped in Quebec sea ice.


1. It’s winter.
2. If not for melting sea ice, orca pod would have never gone in there.

Was wondering how long it would take before the derps would bring up the trapped orcas

361 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:05:28am

Attention, grammar police:

A smart but somewhat unsophisticated West Texas boy had won a scholarship to Harvard. Like most freshmen, he was completely lost his first day on campus. He spotted 2 upper classmen (recognizable by their sweaters) and flagged them down to ask directions. “Excuse me, fellers, can y’all tell me where the library is at?”
One of the upper classmen peered at him disdainfully, “Of course, my good man, of course. But first, my good man, this is HARVARD and here at HARVARD we do not end a sentence with a preposition!”
The country boy thought for a second and said, “Okay, can you tell me where the library is at, ASSHOLE?”

362 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:05:56am

re: #360 Sol Berdinowitz

Was wondering how long it would take before the derps would bring up the trapped orcas

But it’s winter. That ice should be getting stronger and more massive, not breaking off and shrinking. Wonder what the little dooshes have to say about that?

363 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:06:37am

Liberal activists are finally mobilizing against the “assassination czar”

Advocates are concerned about Brennan’s distressing record on civil liberties from his long career in intelligence under both the Bush and Obama administrations. CAIR, the country’s most prominent Muslim civil society group, and the ACLU, the civil liberties organization, have both already expressed concern about Brennan’s nomination.

But today, two liberal groups are turning up the pressure by mobilizing their members against the nominee. Calling Brennan the “assassination czar” of the Obama administration, CREDO, the increasingly active grassroots mobilizing group fueled by its cell phone business, and Demand Progress, a million-plus member civil rights organization, will begin mobilizing their members later this morning to urge the Senate to reject Brennan’s confirmation as CIA director.

I’m a little surprised reaction has been so subdued. I don’t think this is going to catch on.

364 jaunte  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:07:02am

re: #362 Eventual Carrion

“There’s Ice! HAHA!! GlobalWarmening disproved!!!!”

365 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:07:05am

re: #357 Feline Fearless Leader

I’d expect any cat limited to a 2-bedroom apartment to eventually desire to worm into the one walk-in closet simply to see what is there.

Ahhh, yes, the effrontery of human subjects who dare to close doors in a misguided attempt to forbid their overlords from entering parts of their rightful domain.

366 darthstar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:08:24am

re: #361 Shiplord Kirel

Always an old favorite.

367 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:08:36am

re: #362 Eventual Carrion

But it’s winter. That ice should be getting stronger and more massive, not breaking off and shrinking. Wonder what the little dooshes have to say about that?

These are people who think that the Bible is a textbook but that the entire body of objective, peer-reviewed science on global warming, evolution and vaccination can be dismissed as a hoax.

368 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:11:19am

re: #360 Sol Berdinowitz

Free Willy!

Except they freed themselves

369 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:11:28am

re: #363 Killgore Trout

Liberal activists are finally mobilizing against the “assassination czar”

I’m a little surprised reaction has been so subdued. I don’t think this is going to catch on.

I hope that some Dems will vote against Brennan after being pushed by the left. I want him confirmed, but I’d like to force Reid to rely on Republicans to do it.

370 darthstar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:14:10am

I was hoping that anti-gay pastor would get his ass yanked from the program.

371 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:15:22am

re: #361 Shiplord Kirel

Note: A fellah is sort of like an aggie.

The Jinni and the Three Egyptians

One day there were three Egyptians—one from Cairo, one from Alexandria and one fellah—traveling together through the Sahara. They somehow lost their way and found themselves stranded in the middle of the desert with no food or water and sat down waiting to die. Suddenly, the guy from Cairo felt something under him in the sand and began digging to see what it was. Lo and behold it was a lamp! He remembered the story of Aladdin and his magic lamp, so he figured he would try rubbing it to see if a jinni came out. As the others watched he rubbed and rubbed and, sure enough, a huge jinni came out! As is their habit, the jinni said to them, “Salaam. You have freed me and now I am obliged to grant three wishes to you, name what you want.”

The men began discussing what they should do and decided that each one would use one of the wishes to get safely back to his hometown. The man from Cairo said, “Okay jinni, I am ready. I wish to be back in Cairo with my family on a lovely houseboat on the Nile river, with a table full of food & drink in front of me.” *POOF!* The jinni snapped his fingers and the first man was back in Cairo on the houseboat. Now it was the turn of the guy from Alexandria. He said, “Okay jinni, I wish to be in a nice beachfront cabaret in Alexandria, where I can eat fresh fish, drink cool beverages and watch all of the beautiful girls pass by.” *POOF!* The jinni snapped his fingers and the second man was back in Alexandria by the seashore. Now the jinni turned to the fellah and said, “Okay, this is the last wish—what do you want?” And the fellah said to him, “Ya jinni, I am so lonely now—please bring my friends back!!!”

372 darthstar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:15:33am

re: #363 Killgore Trout

Liberal activists are finally mobilizing against the “assassination czar”

I’m a little surprised reaction has been so subdued. I don’t think this is going to catch on.

Fingers crossed! Have faith! Occupy Senate Confirmation will happen!

or it won’t

373 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:15:54am

re: #363 Killgore Trout

Liberal activists are finally mobilizing against the “assassination czar”

I’m a little surprised reaction has been so subdued. I don’t think this is going to catch on.

Like right wing orgs protesting against Obama, the left wing ones will only get traction when protesting against a Repub.

374 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:16:20am

re: #372 darthstar

Fingers crossed! Have faith! Occupy Senate Confirmation will happen!

or it won’t

Mic check!!

375 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:17:18am

It’s winter, but it hardly feels like it in the NYC metro area. Or Chicago for that matter.

NYC metro may see temps bumping 60 degrees this weekend. We’ve been pushing 50 a few days this week.

December had a touch of snow. Precip is down.

Chicago is setting records for lack of snow.

And yet Fischer is derping on and on about how it’s winter elsewhere. It’s supposed to be winter in the Arctic. When it’s supposed to be cold in the usual places but isn’t, that’s a troubling development. When it’s warmer in places that are supposed to be warm (over a period of time like say years - not merely on a day to day basis), that too is a troubling development.

The extremes are getting more extreme, and yet it’s the anti-global warming nutters who think that anyone who thinks that climate change and global warming is bunk are taking all this on faith? Sorry, but the facts indicate that global warming is happening, to suggest otherwise is to engage in faith based belief, since there’s no fact on which that could be based.

Anecdotal evidence isn’t evidence. Global temps are up. That doesn’t mean that point X has to always be higher temp. Some places could see drops, but the entire planet’s temperature is rising. And we can measure this definitively.

376 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:17:34am

re: #362 Eventual Carrion

But it’s winter. That ice should be getting stronger and more massive, not breaking off and shrinking. Wonder what the little dooshes have to say about that?

Orcas saved by global warming. It’s a good thing!
//

377 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:17:56am

re: #374 Gus

Mic check!!

Mic only has cash
Bill has the checks

378 darthstar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:18:39am

re: #374 Gus

Mic check!!

We need another crisis on aisle 5!

379 dragonfire1981  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:18:58am

Amazon giving anyone else trouble at the moment?

380 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:20:17am

re: #378 darthstar

We need another crisis on aisle 5!

Guess this means Obama won’t win in 2016 since he’s lost his base.

//

381 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:20:26am

re: #379 dragonfire1981

Amazon giving anyone else trouble at the moment?

Wouldn’t you have to ask the people of Brazil that live near it’s banks!?!?!
//

382 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:21:17am

re: #378 darthstar

We need another crisis on aisle 5!

No, not possible right now. The doctors say that any attempt to try to add information to Joe Biden’s brain more quickly will trigger a gafftastic meltdown.

//

383 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:21:50am

re: #365 CuriousLurker

Ahhh, yes, the effrontery of human subjects who dare to close doors in a misguided attempt to forbid their overlords from entering parts of their rightful domain.

Given the apartment design once they get into the main bedroom they cannot be kept out of the “closet” since it doesn’t have a separate door at this point.

Odd design in that the you go through the edge of the closet to reach the bathroom. Bathroom door opened out into the closet and the closet door opened in to the closet. And they conflicted. And to reach the linen drawers and shelves on the one side both doors had to be closed.

I found this highly annoying. So I pulled the pins and removed the door dividing the bedroom from the closet. Said door is back in one corner of the closet.

384 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:22:34am

re: #369 Dark_Falcon

I hope that some Dems will vote against Brennan after being pushed by the left. I want him confirmed, but I’d like to force Reid to rely on Republicans to do it.

I’m sure there’ll be a bit of pushback, mostly just for show but no serious resistance until we have a Republican president doing the same thing.

385 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:22:34am
386 darthstar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:23:31am

re: #379 dragonfire1981

Amazon giving anyone else trouble at the moment?

Well, there is a giant python in the bed this morning…wait…that’s just my…shucks…

387 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:23:59am

re: #372 darthstar

Fingers crossed! Have faith! Occupy Senate Confirmation will happen!

or it won’t

The freaks from Code Pink will probably do their usual antics nut that’s about it.

388 darthstar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:24:13am

re: #385 Gus

At least he believes in pulling out.

389 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:24:25am

re: #384 Killgore Trout

I’m sure there’ll be a bit of pushback, mostly just for show but no serious resistance until we have a Republican president doing the same thing.

Yup. During the hearings some of the democrats will ask “tough” questions showing their “concern” but then will come out and say the answers were satisfactory and give him an up vote

Same Movie,, Different Actors

390 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:25:31am

re: #363 Killgore Trout

Liberal activists are finally mobilizing against the “assassination czar”

I’m a little surprised reaction has been so subdued. I don’t think this is going to catch on.

There is a dictum from the civil rights effort: “You criticize your friends, you negotiate with the opposition.” Worked pretty well then.

391 dragonfire1981  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:25:53am
392 darthstar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:27:52am

re: #384 Killgore Trout

re: #389 sattv4u2

You boys are forgetting the true meaning of a second term. John McCain will get to ask John Kerry penetrating questions and raise “serious concern” about the guy he was begging to have nominated as SoS. And then there’s the Hagel hearings…those will be priceless! Looking forward to Republicans saying, “So you were a Democrat Sena—no? A Republican Senator? Why did I never meet you?”

It’ll be fun for the whole family.

394 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:28:29am

re: #390 Decatur Deb

you said “dict um”,,, {snort}
//

395 dragonfire1981  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:29:03am

re: #394 sattv4u2

you said “dict um”,,, {snort}
//

Huh huh, huh huh/

396 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:29:35am

re: #391 dragonfire1981

Excuse for being a bad tipper? Check.
Blame Obama for everything.

If you can afford to go out to eat, you can afford to tip the server.

If you can’t afford the tip (and assuming service was adequate), there’s no way you should be going out to eat.

It’s just an excuse for being a miserable tipper - and a cheap bastard at that. When we go out to eat, we figure on leaving the appropriate tip, regardless of where we are and what tax rates apply to our income. We can afford to eat out, so we can afford to tip.

Of course, this all assumes that the quip/tipping situation is legit to begin with.

397 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:29:38am

re: #392 darthstar

re: #389 sattv4u2

You boys are forgetting the true meaning of a second term. John McCain will get to ask John Kerry penetrating questions and raise “serious concern” about the guy he was begging to have nominated as SoS. And then there’s the Hagel hearings…those will be priceless! Looking forward to Republicans saying, “So you were a Democrat Sena—no? A Republican Senator? Why did I never meet you?”

It’ll be fun for the whole family.

Penetrating.

398 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:29:40am
399 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:30:16am

re: #393 Gus

St. Pete man, 18, dies after accidentally shooting self in head

But he could just as easily done that with a knife or hammer.

400 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:30:22am

re: #392 darthstar

re: #389 sattv4u2

You boys are forgetting the true meaning of a second term. John McCain will get to ask John Kerry penetrating questions and raise “serious concern” about the guy he was begging to have nominated as SoS. And then there’s the Hagel hearings…those will be priceless! Looking forward to Republicans saying, “So you were a Democrat Sena—no? A Republican Senator? Why did I never meet you?”

It’ll be fun for the whole family.

McCain won’t “grill” either one of them and will vote for both

Cantor can bluster all he wants but has no vote

As stated, a few dems will ask “tough, concerned” questions but in the end will vote for

SHOWTIME

401 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:30:59am

re: #398 Dark_Falcon

Darwin Award nominee.

I’ll say. He kept one round out of the chamber to keep it safe? Huh? Then he pulled the trigger. His dad was murdered in a home invasion some time back. Weird, weird, weird.

402 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:31:02am

re: #394 sattv4u2

re: #395 dragonfire1981

Which of you is Beavis? I can never keep that straight.

403 darthstar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:31:22am

re: #393 Gus

St. Pete man, 18, dies after accidentally shooting self in head

Should have kept that empty slot one to the left. Revolvers tend to rotate when you pull the trigger.

404 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:31:43am

re: #393 Gus

St. Pete man, 18, dies after accidentally shooting self in head

So it’s OK to pry that gun now?

405 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:33:09am

re: #404 Decatur Deb

So it’s OK to pry that gun now?

No, you have to wait for the body to cool in order to fit the slogan.

//

406 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:34:07am

re: #393 Gus

St. Pete man, 18, dies after accidentally shooting self in head

The case is still under investigation by homicide detectives and the Medical Examiner’s Office

Ya think??

“Okay everyone,,, before the cops get here, lets all get on the same page,,
Alexander shot HIMSELF in the noggin,,,, right??”

407 darthstar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:34:57am
408 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:35:40am

re: #404 Decatur Deb

So it’s OK to pry that gun now?

Rigor mortis can be challenging.

409 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:35:58am

Heh. Salon.

410 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:36:40am

re: #406 sattv4u2

The case is still under investigation by homicide detectives and the Medical Examiner’s Office

Ya think??

“Okay everyone,,, before the cops get here, lets all get on the same page,,
Alexander shot HIMSELF in the noggin,,,, right??”

No drugs or alcohol in that scenario, no sir.

411 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:37:19am

Brennan won’t create his own policy but instead follow Obama’s policy. If Salon wants to complain it’s not Brennan but Obama. To that end they’re just going to be screaming at the wall.

412 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:38:47am

Snow falls on Jerusalem:

[Link: instagram.com…]

413 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:39:02am

re: #410 Decatur Deb

No drugs or alcohol in that scenario, no sir.

Witness told officers that Shaw, his uncle, grandparents and some friends were on the back patio talking

Discussing the latest medical breakthroughs and scientific theories, no doubt

414 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:40:54am

re: #411 Gus

Brennan won’t create his own policy but instead follow Obama’s policy. If Salon wants to complain it’s not Brennan but Obama. To that end they’re just going to be screaming at the wall.

The head of the CIA does do a large bit of internal policy setting as well as having a role in setting the culture.

415 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:41:51am

re: #414 Dark_Falcon

The head of the CIA does do a large bit of internal policy setting as well as having a role in setting the culture.

OK, I’ll set my hair on fire and run around screaming.

416 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:42:27am

re: #414 Dark_Falcon

The head of the CIA does do a large bit of internal policy setting as well as having a role in setting the culture.

The drones, renditions, and “kill lists” won’t change.

417 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:43:07am

re: #407 darthstar

Image: 282914_10151381594903322_176000303_n.jpg

Russians tell of an instance where the Tsar issued an unpunctuated message concerning someone appealing for pardon from execution.

The note read: казнить нельзя помиловать

Problem being that the Tsar wanted a period after the second word, which would have had it read “Do not execute. Pardon”
Unfortunately, the local officials read it as if there was a period afer the first word, which makes it read “Execute. Do not pardon”

I assume that his crime involved entering a restaurant, eating, shooting and then leaving (without tipping because he had to reduce discretionary spending due to tax increases)…

418 Interesting Times  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:43:27am

Oh hai. Here’s why GOP House hypocrites voted against Sandy aid:

Obama’s 81% New York City Support is Best in 114 Years

President Barack Obama won more support from New York City in November’s election than any White House candidate in more than 100 years, according to a final tally of votes.

419 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:43:52am

re: #415 Gus

OK, I’ll set my hair on fire and run around screaming.

Make a YouTube video and make sure you’re clearly screaming “The stupid, it burns!” so that the effort is not totally wasted.
//

420 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:43:58am

Waterboarding, enhanced interrogation, is banned by the president. Brennan won’t go over the president’s head on that.

421 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:45:20am

re: #418 Interesting Times

Oh hai. Here’s why GOP House hypocrites voted against Sandy aid:

Obama’s 81% New York City Support is Best in 114 Years

And “punishing” them for it by denying hurricane relief is going to make them vote GOP in the future? That tells you a lot actually about mindsets.

422 ProBosniaLiberal  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:46:37am

re: #412 lawhawk

Gimme a picture of Dome of the Rock & Al-Aqsa please.

423 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:48:27am

re: #414 Dark_Falcon

The head of the CIA does do a large bit of internal policy setting as well as having a role in setting the culture.

Frum made a good point the other day that although these appointees don’t make policy but they can influence it. If the head of the CIA or Pentagon is asked to conduct a threat assessment or explore the feasibility of some sort of action they can influence the results by saying “this will never work”, “that isn’t a problem”, “it’s going to be too costly”, etc.

424 William of Orange  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:48:41am

But the Ad choice on the right of this clip makes it all the more priceless!!

When spanked, ask Jesus.

425 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:48:53am

re: #421 Feline Fearless Leader

And “punishing” them for it by denying hurricane relief is going to make them vote GOP in the future? That tells you a lot actually about mindsets.

They were written off ages ago. I guess they figure that the support they gain in other red states for this gesture of ideological integrity will more than balance out what they lose in NY

426 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:50:23am

re: #412 lawhawk

re: #422 ProBosniaLiberal

Gimme a picture of Dome of the Rock & Al-Aqsa please.

I don’t think LawHawk has a zoom lens that powerful!!!
/

427 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:50:46am

re: #391 dragonfire1981

Moron blames Obama for his inability to tip server

This was posted at Glenn Beck’s site last year and they said it was a hoax. I mean, you would think they would jump at anything to blame on Obama.

428 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:51:07am

re: #423 Killgore Trout

Frum made a good point the other day that although these appointees don’t make policy but they can influence it. If the head of the CIA or Pentagon is asked to conduct a threat assessment or explore the feasibility of some sort of action they can influence the results by saying “this will never work”, “that isn’t a problem”, “it’s going to be too costly”, etc.

Exactly. Personnel decisions are policy themselves, for exactly that reason.

429 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:54:17am

re: #427 Vicious Babushka

This was posted at Glenn Beck’s site last year and they said it was a hoax. I mean, you would think they would jump at anything to blame on Obama.

My bad, that was a different no-tip hoax.

430 Geoff with a G  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:55:16am

re: #396 lawhawk

Of course, this all assumes that the quip/tipping situation is legit to begin with.

Exactly. And which Obama-driven taxes is he citing here? The income tax over $400/450K? Should still be able to tip. The 2% payroll tax increase? That was never meant to be permanent and why is Obama solely to blame. I see no scenario that would cause someone who usually tips, to stop due to the increase in taxes.

431 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:55:24am

Except in the unusual cases when the executive decisionmaker is an interested expert, policy is actually formulated pretty far down in the staffs, and bubbles (painfully) up for consideration and approval. That’s why there are staffs.

432 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:56:07am

re: #429 Vicious Babushka

My bad, that was a different no-tip hoax.

I does not matter as long as the Larger Truth stands: Obama is out to ruin America’s economy and take away our freedoms.

/

433 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:56:24am

re: #417 Sol Berdinowitz

Russians tell of an instance where the Tsar issued an unpunctuated message concerning someone appealing for pardon from execution.

The note read: казнить нельзя помиловать

Problem being that the Tsar wanted a period after the second word, which would have had it read “Do not execute. Pardon”
Unfortunately, the local officials read it as if there was a period afer the first word, which makes it read “Execute. Do not pardon”

I assume that his crime involved entering a restaurant, eating, shooting and then leaving (without tipping because he had to reduce discretionary spending due to tax increases)…

Private.
No swimming allowed.

Private?
No! Swimming allowed.

434 Interesting Times  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:56:32am

re: #429 Vicious Babushka

Hey did you see The Daily Show’s Al Madrigal lay waste to the Bridge Troll last night?

Bridge to Canada

Most of the people he interviews in this segment are so rock-stupid it’ll make you cringe o_O

435 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:57:41am

It’s an Obama whine fest this morning on Twitter.

436 Interesting Times  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:00:07am

re: #428 Dark_Falcon

Some free advice for you this fine morning: stock up on bottled water, like, now:

Drought may cause Chicago River to reverse flow

If Lake Michigan’s water level drops by just 15 centimetres, it will be lower than the Chicago River.

That could reverse the water flow, sending untreated sewage into Lake Michigan.

“This is an open sewer. It depends upon gravity to go away from us. If that gravity does not work with [Lake Michigan water levels] going down, it goes the other way, and we have done nothing to deal with contaminants.”

Chicago gets its drinking water from Lake Michigan, and the Army Corps of Engineers is keeping an eye on the water levels.

437 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:02:07am

re: #435 Gus

It’s an Obama whine fest this morning on Twitter.

It’s an Obama whine fest every morning (and noon, and night) on Twitter.

438 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:02:08am

re: #436 Interesting Times

Some free advice for you this fine morning: stock up on bottled water, like, now:

Drought may cause Chicago River to reverse flow

I can’t, not till after I pay my mortgage. All I can do is hope for the best.

439 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:02:50am

re: #437 Vicious Babushka

It’s an Obama whine fest every morning (and noon, and night) on Twitter.

Today is extra special with the Obama cabinet thing.

440 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:02:53am

re: #433 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

What’s this thing called love?
What’s this thing called, love?

441 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:05:10am

re: #439 Gus

Today is extra special with the Obama cabinet thing.

Jack Lew’s seekrit code handwriting?

442 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:05:33am

re: #436 Interesting Times

recalls an old song by the Fugs

443 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:07:37am

re: #399 Feline Fearless Leader

THAT guy probably could have.

444 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:08:39am

re: #426 sattv4u2

I’ll have to retask my satellites, but it is doable. May take a bit of time. I’m busy spying on the rwnj’s at the moment. /

445 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:09:18am

re: #434 Interesting Times

Hey did you see The Daily Show’s Al Madrigal lay waste to the Bridge Troll last night?

Bridge to Canada

Most of the people he interviews in this segment are so rock-stupid it’ll make you cringe o_O

I’ll have to watch that! Stuck in CubicleLand for now.

446 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:10:42am

re: #445 Vicious Babushka

I’ll have to watch that! Stuck in CubicleLand for now.

Are Wally and Alice doing well there?

/Dilbert riff.

447 makeitstop  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:11:05am

re: #442 Sol Berdinowitz

recalls an old song by the Fugs

A friend of mine who works for OWS got a call recently about a donation of books to the OWS library. When he went to pick them up, he found that the collection took up an entire room.

Turns out the collection belonged to Tuli Kupferberg.

448 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:13:21am

re: #446 Dark_Falcon

Are Wally and Alice doing well there?

/Dilbert riff.

They were laid off long before I got here.

/Scott Adam sucks.

449 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:16:47am

re: #448 Vicious Babushka

They were laid off long before I got here.

/Scott Adam sucks.

Sorry if I offended you.

450 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:17:14am

re: #447 makeitstop

A friend of mine who works for OWS got a call recently about a donation of books to the OWS library. When he went to pick them up, he found that the collection took up an entire room.

Turns out the collection belonged to Tuli Kupferberg.

I shared an office as a teaching assistant in the Russian Department of University of Arizona with Fugs drummer Ken Weaver, who declined a lucrative offer to participate in a band revival in the 80’s

451 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:17:30am

re: #447 makeitstop

A friend of mine who works for OWS got a call recently about a donation of books to the OWS library. When he went to pick them up, he found that the collection took up an entire room.

Turns out the collection belonged to Tuli Kupferberg.

You do know that Killgore thinks your friend promotes rapey-stabby, right?

/////

452 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:28:30am

re: #436 Interesting Times

Some free advice for you this fine morning: stock up on bottled water, like, now:

Drought may cause Chicago River to reverse flow

Years ago I was in Chicago on St. Patrick’s day. I heard they turn the Chicago River Green on that day, so I went to look. Yup, it was green. Turns out they were holding the festivities the following day, and I went again, and it was a much brighter shade of green. They do a huge parade for St. Pat’s day, it was quite festive. Also got to see a guy pee on the sidewalk and get arrested. They really know how to party in Chicago.

453 makeitstop  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:29:53am

re: #451 Dark_Falcon

You do know that Killgore thinks your friend promotes rapey-stabby, right?

/////

I am aware of this.

Full disclosure: According to KT’s standards, a lot of my friends promote rapey-stabby.

454 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:30:32am

re: #452 wrenchwench

Also got to see a guy pee on the sidewalk and get arrested

You got arrested for watching a guy pee on the sidewalk??

Thank God he wasn’t masturbating!!!

///

455 makeitstop  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:30:43am

re: #450 Sol Berdinowitz

I shared an office as a teaching assistant in the Russian Department of University of Arizona with Fugs drummer Ken Weaver, who declined a lucrative offer to participate in a band revival in the 80’s

Those guys always seemed way too smart to be in a band anyway.

I say this as a guy in a band. :)

456 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:31:47am

re: #452 wrenchwench

Years ago I was in Chicago on St. Patrick’s day. I heard they turn the Chicago River Green on that day, so I went to look. Yup, it was green. Turns out they were holding the festivities the following day, and I went again, and it was a much brighter shade of green. They do a huge parade for St. Pat’s day, it was quite festive. Also got to see a guy pee on the sidewalk and get arrested. They really know how to party in Chicago.

The good news is that the water quality in the Chicago River is far better than it once was. People even kayak on it in the summer.

457 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:33:02am

re: #454 sattv4u2

Also got to see a guy pee on the sidewalk and get arrested

You got arrested for watching a guy pee on the sidewalk??

Thank God he wasn’t masturbating!!!

///

That I saw in Paris. Not knowing any French, I decided not to try to report it.

458 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:33:26am

re: #455 makeitstop

Those guys always seemed way too smart to be in a band anyway.

I say this as a guy in a band. :)

I seem to recall that a young Jackson Browne and Danny Kootch (who went on to play with JB) played on one of their albums.

459 makeitstop  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:42:44am

re: #458 Sol Berdinowitz

I seem to recall that a young Jackson Browne and Danny Kootch (who went on to play with JB) played on one of their albums.

Kootch was actually in the band for a short time! I just learned that.

460 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:44:05am

When Samuel L. Jackson says there’s snakes on the mf’ing plane, there’s mf’ing snakes on the mf’ing plane. Don’t believe him? See for yourself.

461 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:49:25am
462 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:50:36am

re: #461 Vicious Babushka

On Twitter today: the effort to treat misogynistic, homophobic, and myopic views as the One True View

463 dragonfire1981  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:50:42am

re: #461 Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

Who the in the HELL ever said anything like that Bryan?? Good grief.

464 dragonfire1981  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:53:16am

Has there ever been a single society in the history of the world that has condoned sexual acts with children?

And if so, WHY??!?!?!

465 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:54:23am

Asshole cartoonist Carlos Latuff is at it again:

A Brazilian cartoonist hit back at the Simon Wiesenthal Center for his inclusion on its top 10 slur list.

Carlos Latuff recently published a cartoon of the center’s founder, Rabbi Marvin Hier, awarding Latuff a medal in response to the center’s publication in December of a list of the top 10 anti-Israel and anti-Semitic slurs of 2012. Third on the list was Latuff’s caricature of Israeli Premier Benjamin Netanyahu squeezing votes out of the body of a dead Arab child.

In the cartoon, an aggravated Hier presents a beaming Latuff with a medal that says “3rd” as Latuff sits on a chair drawing an airplane indiscriminately bombing Gaza. Hanging above Hier’s right ear are two lightning bolts.

Petra Marquardt-Bigman, a historian and blogger for The Jerusalem Post, noted that the bolts are the symbol of the SS – an elite Nazi unit.

Latuff said the two flat S letters are a “cartoon representation of headache.”

This fuckhead makes Ted Rall look good.

466 dragonfire1981  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:58:15am

re: #465 Dark_Falcon

Asshole cartoonist Carlos Latuff is at it again:

This fuckhead makes Ted Rall look good.

I’m guessing by headache he meant something like this. Notice it has far more than just two bolts.

467 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:58:32am

Two Cats Get Predictably Catty About Having to Share the Same Food Dish (via Gawker):

468 iossarian  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:58:52am

re: #464 dragonfire1981

Has there ever been a single society in the history of the world that has condoned sexual acts with children?

And if so, WHY??!?!?!

Depends on the exact definition of “children” I suppose.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

I think it’s a worthwhile mental exercise to imagine different forms of social and/or sexual relations, to see if they cause harm or not (and to whom), since ostensibly the point of forbidding certain forms of relationship is to prevent harm from occurring, be it to underage children or non-union workers in “right-to-work” states.

Legalizing gay relationships obviously requires a change in societal attitude towards such relationships, which can only come about if individuals examine their beliefs concerning them. It used to be the case that many people believed that gay relationships caused harm to the people in them (and in fact that gayness was a form of mental illness requiring treatment).

469 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 9:59:29am
470 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:00:02am

re: #466 dragonfire1981

I’m guessing by headache he meant something like this. Notice it has far more than just two bolts.

He’s trying for ‘plausible deniability’, but given his track record his denials aren’t plausible.

471 engineer cat  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:00:04am

ignatz, being an outdoor kat, bulks up for winter and is walking around looking like a furry little piglet

472 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:00:21am

re: #463 dragonfire1981

Who the in the HELL ever said anything like that Bryan?? Good grief.

NRO latched onto a Guardian article positing that “opinion” on pedophilia is changing, when in reality it’s a tiny minority of researchers who are positing that pedophilia should be classified as a sexual orientation rather than a mental illness for the purpose of saying that’s incurable and medical efforts to prove otherwise are actually counterproductive.

Predictably, the screeching is now that “The Left” is trying to “normalize” pedophilia.

473 makeitstop  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:00:23am

re: #461 Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

Dude’s got an unhealthy obsession from the look of it.

474 bratwurst  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:00:41am

Breaking news coming out on a California school shooting:

[Link: www.kget.com…]

475 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:00:55am

re: #464 dragonfire1981

Has there ever been a single society in the history of the world that has condoned sexual acts with children?

And if so, WHY??!?!?!

The Roman Catholic Church?

Look, to guys like Bryan F and Rick Santorum, homosexuality is the moral equivalent of pedophilia or bestiality because they are all abdominations unto the Lord.

If they cannot understand the concept of “consenting adults”, why should anyone else be able to?

This is the logical equivalent of closing your eyes when you are naked so nobody can see you…

476 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:01:37am
477 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:01:56am
478 iossarian  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:02:14am

re: #476 Vicious Babushka

ANOTHER SCHOOL SHOOTING

Never would have happened if everyone was carrying a gun.

479 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:02:38am

re: #469 lawhawk

I’ve retasked the satellites and now have a clear shot of the Temple Mount and Dome of the Rock bedecked with snow.

Great photos, only marred by the mural of the Arafish.

480 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:02:42am

re: #474 bratwurst

Two shot. Shooter in custody.

481 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:02:45am

re: #457 wrenchwench

That I saw in Paris. Not knowing any French, I decided not to try to report it.

You could always mime to the flic. The French dig mime.

482 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:02:47am

re: #469 lawhawk

I’ve retasked the satellites and now have a clear shot of the Temple Mount and Dome of the Rock bedecked with snow.

May daughter just sent me a bunch of photos of her street and her kids playing in the snow, also a video which I will have to wait until I get home.

483 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:03:59am

re: #480 lawhawk

Two shot. Shooter in custody.

None dead, thankfully.

484 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:04:10am

re: #478 iossarian

Never would have happened if everyone was carrying a gun.

Another Obama false flag operation?

/

485 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:06:22am

re: #477 Gus

Biden’s gun violence event interrupted by news of another school shooting

You see? That sort of timing cannot be a coincidence

FALSE FLAG!!!


(upding to the first person who re-posts a serious comment/tweet claiming this)

486 ProBosniaLiberal  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:06:27am

re: #482 Vicious Babushka

Okay, so while everyone is happy and giddy about snow, get them in a room and negotiate peace.

Oh right, Netanyahu doesn’t have a heart.

487 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:09:43am

re: #471 engineer cat

ignatz, being an outdoor kat, bulks up for winter and is walking around looking like a furry little piglet

They’re sort of extra cute that way. My brother’s shed cats do the extra fat and full over and under coats for winter as well. Sort of “eskimo cat” mode.

488 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:10:23am

re: #484 Sol Berdinowitz

Another Obama false flag operation?

/

No, if it were a false flag they wouldn’t have left witnesses. This was just a person driven mad by chemtrails

489 stabby  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:24:24am

re: #279 Romantic Heretic

Well, not all super religious people are that way. But for these people their religion is just an excuse. They pretty much started off less generous, more greedy and hating their neighbors more. They also know that attitude is frowned upon. But by tying their weaknesses to God (Allah to Zeus, take your pick) they now have an excuse to act the way they do.

Actually any ideology will fill this need. Capitalism, Communism, The Second Amendment, etc. ad nauseum, will do.

I’m sorry but about 1/4 of the country is BOTH super religious AND bigoted granny starvers. If there was no correlation between the two, then MOST of the population would have to be bigoted granny starvers. Since there isn’t the there must be a greater joint probability. Look, in SOME WAY being ultra-religious in the United States is correlated with not giving the slightest fuck about other people.

490 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:29:57am

re: #489 stabby

I’m sorry but about 1/4 of the country is BOTH super religious AND bigoted granny starvers. If there was no correlation between the two, then MOST of the population would have to be bigoted granny starvers. Since there isn’t the there must be a greater joint probability. Look, in SOME WAY being ultra-religious in the United States is correlated with not giving the slightest fuck about other people.

You should just be quiet, accept the charity we give you, and quit trying to deny that you are exactly like the immoral atheistic commie with no sense of decency or intelligence that we project you to be.

491 jaunte  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:35:30am

Constitutionderpage: Indiana Edition

The Stupid Just Keeps Getting More and More Stoopid

“…it’s worth taking a few moments to really contemplate what Sen. Boots’ is both claiming and proposing. First, he knows better than the United States Supreme Court what is and is not constitutional. And he knows that the rights of Indiana have been “illegitimately violated by the federal government” (notwithstanding that some of us might disagree). And he believes that “Somebody at some point has to take a stand. We have to stand up for what the Constitution says and right now, no one is doing that.” That’s right. The Supreme Court doesn’t know what the Constitution does and doesn’t permit and, apparently, doesn’t have the right to decide what the Constitution does and doesn’t permit. On the other hand, a state senator from Crawfordsville, Indiana, does have the right to make those sorts of determinations. And if those big, bad evil legislators in Congress, elected by the people, vote to do something and the Supreme Court rules that something to be Constitutional, well never-you-mind, because good ol’ Sen. Boots and the State of Indiana can just tell ’em they’re wrong! You know, just like the South did when they wanted to preserve the right to own humans.

And this is the type of person being elected to Indiana’s legislature.”

492 stabby  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:36:49am

re: #490 Feline Fearless Leader

The super religious tithe but don’t want to pay taxes.

So essentially they want super low taxes that go to no programs that are far reaching and effective - and what money they DO spend is only in return for the promise of getting into heaven.

There is SOMETHING in it for them - for everyone else, not so much.

493 stabby  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:37:51am

re: #464 dragonfire1981

Has there ever been a single society in the history of the world that has condoned sexual acts with children?

And if so, WHY??!?!?!

There are some that still do. I remember a south american tribe where the age of consent is 8, an african one where girls start having sex at 6, boys at 8.

Sexual morality is arbitrary, and it’s the attitudes around sex that make it exploitive or not - and well the mechanics of it too (little kids could be physically hurt by rape by a full grown man - societies with very low ages of consent would have practices to avoid that).

But my main thought is that societies where women lose all their rights when they get married and don’t have the rights to divorce or remarriage make marriage itself a form of exploitation, all the more horrible when it is forced on or even allowed for someone very young. And even the west has a history of abusing women and girls that way.

494 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:39:37am

re: #493 stabby

There are some that still do. I remember a south american tribe where the age of consent is 8, an african one where girls start having sex at 6, boys at 8.

Sexual morality is arbitrary, and it’s the attitudes around sex that make it exploitive or not - and well the mechanics of it too (little kids could be physically hurt by rape by a full grown man - societies with very low ages of consent would have practices to avoid that).

But my main thought is that societies where women lose all their rights when they get married and don’t have the rights to divorce or remarriage make marriage itself a form of exploitation, all the more horrible when it is forced on or even allowed for someone very young. And even the west has a history of abusing women and girls that way.

Well, you have to consider that in a lot of cultures a marriage is simply a contracted property transfer. Between the father and the husband.

495 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 10:53:12am

re: #494 Feline Fearless Leader

Well, you have to consider that in a lot of cultures a marriage is simply a contracted property transfer. Between the father and the husband.

I explain that to my 14-year-old daughter. Namely that not that long ago, she would be at the age when we would be looking around for a suitable husband for her, preferably one whose parents had some spare grazing land available for one of our cows, which she would take with her as a dowry…

496 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 11:48:24am

re: #495 Sol Berdinowitz

I explain that to my 14-year-old daughter. Namely that not that long ago, she would be at the age when we would be looking around for a suitable husband for her, preferably one whose parents had some spare grazing land available for one of our cows, which she would take with her as a dowry…

If I had arranged my daughter’s marriages, one would be much happier and one would not.

497 Achilles Tang  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:51:04pm

re: #247 Gus

Why sigh?

Because I’ve flown in those a million times. Stupid of me.


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