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1 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 12:27:58pm

America. Progress looks weird sometimes.

2 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 12:29:46pm

Makes you wonder how that kid turned out. Never seen this image before.

3 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 12:31:58pm

re: #2 HappyWarrior

Makes you wonder how that kid turned out. Never seen this image before.

Indeed. Like to hold out hope that he grew up and moved away from his parents blind hatred, but considering its Georgia, that cynic in me says he’s probably sporting a shaved head and swastika with the rest of them.

4 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 12:34:33pm

re: #3 Targetpractice

Indeed. Like to hold out hope that he grew up and moved away from his parents blind hatred, but considering its Georgia, that cynic in me says he’s probably sporting a shaved head and swastika with the rest of them.

I have some hope after reading that the Prussian Blue twins turned out somewhat all right. But yeah. It’s tough to undo that in that kind of environment.

5 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 12:37:13pm

WTF?

Shit like that makes me wish people needed to pass tests and acquire licenses before procreating.

6 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 12:37:30pm

“To Serve and Protect — everyone

7 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 12:37:56pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

I have some hope after reading that the Prussian Blue twins turned out somewhat all right. But yeah. It’s tough to undo that in that kind of environment.

Took significant volumes of weed, IIRC.

8 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 12:38:42pm

re: #7 Decatur Deb

Took significant volumes of weed, IIRC.

Yep. Score another one for weed.

9 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 12:39:09pm

re: #7 Decatur Deb

Took significant volumes of weed, IIRC.

Legalize it! Or make Hate a disease it can be prescribed for.

10 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 12:39:43pm

re: #6 wrenchwench

“To Serve and Protect — everyone

That’s why I don’t need more guns. If the black faces were to suddenly disappear from local LE and the courts, that’s a red flag.

11 Kragar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 12:41:16pm

Jindal unveils new “Fuck the poor” tax plan

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, a top Republican contender for president in 2016, called for the elimination of Louisiana’s income and corporate taxes Thursday, the Times-Picayune reports. Jindal wants to make up the income by raising sales taxes.

12 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 12:43:02pm

re: #11 Kragar

Jindal unveils new “Fuck the poor” tax plan

McDonnell’s proposing the same thing in Virginia as mentioned downstairs. Seems the only tax that they ever want to increase is the one that will hit the average person hardest and will be but a minor inconvenience to the very wealthy.

13 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 12:43:18pm
14 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 12:43:28pm

How teabaggers see this pic: “The black man is a conservative and the little kid is a liberal-in-training”.

15 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 12:45:04pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

McDonnell’s proposing the same thing in Virginia as mentioned downstairs. Seems the only tax that they ever want to increase is the one that will hit the average person hardest and will be but a minor inconvenience to the very wealthy.

Like the wine tax in Britain: One Pound eleven Pence per bottle. Makes little difference in the price for a fine bottle of claret for 40 pounds, but for a simple 5-Pound bottle of wine for dinner, it adds a big chunk to the price.

16 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 12:46:02pm

re: #15 Sol Berdinowitz

Like the wine tay in Britain: One Pound eleven Pence per bottle. Makes little difference in the price for a fine bottle of claret for 40 pounds, but for a simple 5-Pound bottle of wine for dinner, it adds a big chunk to the price.

Precisely. Really this is just another non-solution disguised as a solution.

17 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 12:47:21pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

Precisely. Really this is just another non-solution disguised as a solution.

It’s another give-away to the rich, disguised as a “growth” measure. “When they have more money, they’ll buy more!”

18 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 12:48:16pm

re: #17 Targetpractice

It’s another give-away to the rich, disguised as a “growth” measure. “When they have more money, they’ll buy more!”

Yep.

19 kirkspencer  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 12:48:27pm

re: #11 Kragar

Jindal unveils new “Fuck the poor” tax plan

The thing is, the sales tax plans are even more unequal than you think. They exclude things, and amazingly the things excluded work to the benefit of the wealthy.

Services tend to be untaxed. That’s probably the most egregious, and at the same time wisest, of the supporters. See, once you say services are taxed you open the door to taxes on labor, which takes us right back to an income tax.

Taxes on sales of investments, aka capital gains, is another issue. I’ve gone round a couple of times here about this one because I think the idea we have to give a break to investors is a mistake. Not least because investment carries its own encouragement in the form of more wealth (or opportunity for wealth) than sticking it in savings — which in more than a few cases basically breaks even against inflation.

But if you’re going to do sales tax, do it across the board so the wealthy bleed too. It’s still going to be regressive, but not as much.

20 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 12:49:36pm

Thing I remember about Jim DeMint when he first ran for Senate was that he proposed a national sales tax of 18%. Yeah that’s a great idea for a consumer based economy such as ours. But proposing Clinton era income tax rates is tyranny, just tyranny.

21 kirkspencer  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 12:57:02pm

re: #20 HappyWarrior

Thing I remember about Jim DeMint when he first ran for Senate was that he proposed a national sales tax of 18%. Yeah that’s a great idea for a consumer based economy such as ours. But proposing Clinton era income tax rates is tyranny, just tyranny.

But he wanted it to replace income tax.

22 Bulworth  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:00:18pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

Yeah, he wants to get rid of the gas tax so that the people who drive on the roads won’t have to pay (or won’t be the primary payers) for them but instead the costs will be shifted to many of those who don’t use the roads. Makes sense. /

Also, too: he also wants to throw in a $100 surcharge on people who own non-gas cars. All 11 of them. That makes perfect sense, too. //

23 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:02:27pm

re: #11 Kragar

Reposted from downstairs:

Louisiana’s tax burden isn’t particularly harsh, but eliminating the corp and pers taxes would impose a highly regressive tax climate. The sales tax would have to increase significantly to make up for the lost revenues.

Currently, the sales tax is at 4%.

Corp taxes max out at 8%. Personal income taxes at 6%.

This pie chart shows the problem. In 3Q 2011 (latest available), the personal income tax generated $681m. Sales tax generated about $729m. Corporate tax generated another $21m. You would essentially have to double the sales tax to cover the revenues. Because corporate/personal taxes vary by quarter - most coming in the 2q, you could probably get away with a 7% sales tax, but it would hit the poor/working class hardest since it would attach to all purchases made.

Virginia’s tax plan would require something similar. The fuel taxes would require an increase in sales tax to make up the more than $150m generated per quarter in fuel tax revenues. It’s a somewhat more defensible move, if the sales tax increase due to the elimination of fuel taxes is dedicated to transportation - because of higher fuel efficiency, the revenues aren’t keeping up with infrastructure needs, so alternative revenue sources are needed. Mind you, it’s still regressive, but it’s a substitution of one regressive tax for another. VA has a 5% sales tax rate. It would probably have to go to 6% to fill the revenue gap.

24 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:05:01pm

re: #22 Bulworth

Yeah, he wants to get rid of the gas tax so that the people who drive on the roads won’t have to pay (or won’t be the primary payers) for them but instead the costs will be shifted to many of those who don’t use the roads. Makes sense. /

Also, too: he also wants to throw in a $100 surcharge on people who own non-gas cars. All 11 of them. That makes perfect sense, too. //

It is technically possible to just make drivers pay mer mile driven, and abolish the gas tax. That would be user-oriented and completely fair.

25 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:06:05pm

re: #24 Sol Berdinowitz

It is technically possible to just make drivers pay mer mile driven, and abolish the gas tax. That would be user-oriented and completely fair.

Technically possible, Constitutionally questionable.

26 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:07:57pm

OT, from way back in March?!:
Criminal pasts don’t disqualify members of Arpaio posse

Arpaio wants his army of 3,000 volunteer posse members to look like sworn deputies and sometimes perform the same duties. But an in-depth project by CBS 5 Investigates uncovered a number of posse members with arrests for assault, drug possession, domestic violence, sex crimes against children, disorderly conduct, impersonating an officer - and the list goes on.

If only there were some examples from history we could use as a reference for what usually happens when some tin-horn despot throws together a personally-loyal band of thugs and criminals to crack down on “undesirables.”

27 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:09:43pm

re: #24 Sol Berdinowitz

It is technically possible to just make drivers pay mer mile driven, and abolish the gas tax. That would be user-oriented and completely fair.

Unless you did something totally radical (and pretty much unworkable) like converting all the state and county roads into toll roads that charged based on mileage. And the infrastructure* costs of implementing and controlling that would eat up a pile of revenue.

* - Assuming it was something like EasyPass where you put something on the car that could be read as it passed checkpoints so that mileage could be registered. Avoiding anything that slowed use of the roads like tollbooths. And there would obviously be an immediate economic substitution or black market in avoiding charges by various means.

28 The Mountain That Blogs  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:10:20pm

re: #2 HappyWarrior

Makes you wonder how that kid turned out. Never seen this image before.

He’d be about 22 now. And probably not well.

29 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:10:26pm

re: #24 Sol Berdinowitz

And tracking them would be done how? /

In-state versus out-of-state is done how? Log books? Computer GPS tracking?

Look, it can be done on a per-mile basis, and states could require annual odmeter readings to arrive at tax due, but if someone says is an interstate commuter (driving between say NJ and PA to go to work or NY to NJ or CT to NY, how do you apportion those miles outside your state, or do you not even try)?

And in the case of VA, the gas tax ends up getting a boost from Interstate traffic - folks who drive I-95 to get to other destinations outside VA and only stop to get gas. States like NJ benefit from this as well - they aren’t necessarily destinations in their own right, but the gas tax revenues get a boost from interstate commerce. Changing to other schemes would eliminate that source of revenue and impose a higher burden on in-state taxpayers.

It’s one of the reasons that many states/localities impose higher hotel/rental car fees (often a 1/3 or more of the total rental price) - a revenue source that doesn’t have a constituency in-state.

30 EPR-radar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:12:10pm

re: #11 Kragar

Jindal unveils new “Fuck the poor” tax plan

Thanks, Mr. Jindal. Sometimes people are skeptical when I say that the essence of the GOP is to line the pockets of the rich by screwing everyone else.

You make my case for me.

31 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:12:25pm
32 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:13:19pm

re: #31 wrenchwench

Bikerumor Pic Of The Day: Winter In Santa Monica

Image: santa-monica-ride-600x600.jpg

FEMA to seize water bottles! Order yours now before they run out!
;)

33 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:13:25pm

Germany already has a toll system installed for trucks on its autobahns, the politicians are just biding their time and waiting for when they will be able to expand the sytem to include all vehicles.

It is all technically possible, although a tax on gasoline per gallon favors lower fuel consumption rather than a fee per mile driven.

34 Kragar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:14:28pm

re: #26 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

OT, from way back in March?!:
Criminal pasts don’t disqualify members of Arpaio posse

If only there were some examples from history we could use as a reference for what usually happens when some tin-horn despot throws together a personally-loyal band of thugs and criminals to crack down on “undesirables.”

They hide information like that in books.

35 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:15:53pm

re: #33 Sol Berdinowitz

Germany already has a toll system installed for trucks on its autobahns, the politicians are just biding their time and waiting for when they will be able to expand the sytem to include all vehicles.

It is all technically possible, although a tax on gasoline per gallon favors lower fuel consumption rather than a fee per mile driven.

Was aware of the toll-reader when driving from Frankfurt to Koln last year.

Tax/gallon vs Tax/mile might depend on what your goals are. Promote less fuel use, or possibly simply paying for maintaining the infrastructure where the cost in wear is not dependent on fuel economy.

36 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:19:01pm

re: #33 Sol Berdinowitz

Germany already has a toll system installed for trucks on its autobahns, the politicians are just biding their time and waiting for when they will be able to expand the sytem to include all vehicles.

It is all technically possible, although a tax on gasoline per gallon favors lower fuel consumption rather than a fee per mile driven.

In the Netherlands you are charged a yearly road tax and it is rated on what kind of car or truck you are driving..Last I remember my buddy over there drives an SUV and pays 150/Euro a year plus expensive gas.

37 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:21:01pm

re: #36 HoosierHoops

In the Netherlands you are charged a yearly road tax and it is rated on what kind of car or truck you are driving..Last I remember my buddy over there drives an SUV and pays 150/Euro a year plus expensive gas.

How does that adjust for owning multiple cars? e.g. if Nether-Mitt owns 20 cars does he get equally dinged for all of them?

39 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:23:24pm

re: #37 Feline Fearless Leader

How does that adjust for owning multiple cars? e.g. if Nether-Mitt owns 20 cars does he get equally dinged for all of them?

As I understand it every car and truck must pay a road tax or else you don’t get your tags.

40 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:23:35pm

re: #36 HoosierHoops

In the Netherlands you are charged a yearly road tax and it is rated on what kind of car or truck you are driving..Last I remember my buddy over there drives an SUV and pays 150/Euro a year plus expensive gas.

I just paid €1.55 per liter here in Germany…lessee, at today’s exchange rate of €1.32/$ that comes to $2.04 per liter times 3.785 liters/gallon = $7.74 per gallon.

America would go to war before it would pay prices like that.

41 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:27:25pm

VMT (Vehicle Mileage Tax) could well be the future.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

42 Kragar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:29:43pm

Shocker.

NRA ‘Disappointed’ With Biden Meeting For Proposing Restrictions On Guns

The National Rifle Association issued a statement following a meeting on gun violence with Vice President Joe Biden at the White House on Thursday, saying it was “disappointed” with how much the conversation focused on limiting the Second Amendment.

“We were disappointed with how little this meeting had to do with keeping our children safe and how much it had to do with an agenda to attack the Second Amendment,” read the statement. “While claiming that no policy proposals would be “prejudged,” this Task Force spent most of its time on proposed restrictions on lawful firearms owners - honest, taxpaying, hardworking Americans.”

How dare this administration actually consider means to limit the availability of firearms to lunatics when they should instead be forcing all Americans to be a fully trained SWAT team member.

43 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:30:46pm

re: #40 Sol Berdinowitz

I just paid €1.55 per liter here in Germany…lessee, at today’s exchange rate of €1.32/$ that comes to $2.04 per liter times 3.785 liters/gallon = $7.74 per gallon.

America would go to war before it would pay prices like that.

Motor Vehicle tax (Kraftfahrzeugsteuer) Oh, I love the German language sometimes. :)

44 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:30:53pm

re: #41 Feline Fearless Leader

VMT (Vehicle Mileage Tax) could well be the future.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

Count me as a nay vote on that.

45 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:32:54pm

re: #42 Kragar

Shocker.

NRA ‘Disappointed’ With Biden Meeting For Proposing Restrictions On Guns

“We were disappointed with how little this meeting had to do with keeping our children safe and how much it had to do with an agenda to attack the Second Amendment,”

You mean Joe Biden thinks that a well regulated militia is no longer necessary to the security of a free state?

Scandal!!!

46 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:34:37pm

re: #43 Feline Fearless Leader

Motor Vehicle tax (Kraftfahrzeugsteuer) Oh, I love the German language sometimes. :)

You remind me that I have to go to the Kraftfahrzeugmeldeamt (DMV) to renew my Kraftfahrzeughaftpflichtversicherungsschein (car insurance certification)

47 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:34:54pm

re: #42 Kragar

Shocker.

NRA ‘Disappointed’ With Biden Meeting For Proposing Restrictions On Guns

How dare this administration actually consider means to limit the availability of firearms to lunatics when they should instead be forcing all Americans to be a fully trained SWAT team member.

Has all the hallmarks of a canned press release. Problem is that the expiration date on the can is “Best Before 1989.”

48 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:35:18pm

re: #42 Kragar

Shocker.

NRA ‘Disappointed’ With Biden Meeting For Proposing Restrictions On Guns

How dare this administration actually consider means to limit the availability of firearms to lunatics when they should instead be forcing all Americans to be a fully trained SWAT team member.

Are you sure that statement wasn’t timestamped from before the meeting?
///

49 Kragar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:35:25pm

If what we have in the US is a well regulated militia, I’d hate to see a poorly regulated one.

50 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:35:29pm

re: #46 Sol Berdinowitz

Kraftfahrzeughaftpflichtversicherungsschein

Gesundheit.

51 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:36:36pm

re: #50 Ghost of Tom Joad

Gesundheit.

And after saying that three times you’re ready for a beer. Which explains a great deal about Germany. ;)

52 Bulworth  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:36:37pm
proposed restrictions on lawful firearms owners - honest, taxpaying, hardworking Americans.”

Oh well then of course in that case, let’s just forget about any restrictions. We didn’t know that. Geebus./

Seriously, the Newtown shooter’s multiple-gun-owning mother was probably all of those things. But she wasn’t responsible. Or she just had too damn much weaponry to ensure the community around her would remain safe.

53 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:38:09pm

re: #51 Feline Fearless Leader

And after saying that three times you’re ready for a beer. Which explains a great deal about Germany. ;)

It’s actually easier to say after three beers, which explains a lot more about Germany…

54 Bulworth  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:40:08pm
“We were disappointed with how little this meeting had to do with keeping our children safe and how much it had to do with an agenda to attack the Second Amendment,” read the statement.

So is the NRA saying that the children of the school in Newton would not have been safer if the shooter’s mother didn’t have all those weapons?

55 allegro  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:41:22pm

re: #54 Bulworth

So is the NRA saying that the children of the school in Newton would not have been safer if the shooter’s mother didn’t have all those weapons?

You silly. Only MOAR GUNZ will keep our children safer.

//

56 Kragar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:41:46pm

re: #54 Bulworth

So is the NRA saying that the children of the school in Newton would not have been safer if the shooter’s mother didn’t have all those weapons?

The guy could have walked into the school with credit card or hammer, and then it would have been really serious.
/

57 Bulworth  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:42:30pm
“We were disappointed with how little this meeting had to do with keeping our children safe and how much it had to do with an agenda to attack the Second Amendment,” read the statement.

Because the Newton shooter’s mother needed all those guns to defend herself against Obama thugs trying to lock her in a FEMA trailer. /

58 EPR-radar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:43:09pm

re: #56 Kragar

The guy could have walked into the school with credit card or hammer, and then it would have been really serious.
/

I’ll see your credit card and hammer and raise with a ping pong ball. So there.

59 Kragar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:43:55pm

re: #58 EPR-radar

I’ll see your credit card and hammer and raise with a ping pong ball. So there.

Sure, bring genocide into this.

60 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:44:47pm

re: #59 Kragar

Sure, bring genocide into this.

Crow T Robot is a sign of the Apocalypse!

61 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:46:36pm

re: #60 Feline Fearless Leader

Crow T Robot is a sign of the Apocalypse!

From what? Mike Nelson: Destroyer of Worlds?

62 Bulworth  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:46:43pm

At least the Newton shooter’s mother was well-prepared in the event of a Cuban Soviet Russian North Korean alien invasion and a well-regulated militia needed to be called up.

63 EPR-radar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:46:53pm

re: #52 Bulworth

Oh well then of course in that case, let’s just forget about any restrictions. We didn’t know that. Geebus./

Seriously, the Newtown shooter’s multiple-gun-owning mother was probably all of those things. But she wasn’t responsible. Or she just had too damn much weaponry to ensure the community around her would remain safe.

That last part is very interesting and sheds light on the NRA’s strategy.

The NRA steadfastly opposes any targeted measures to keep guns away from people who are likely to be irresponsible. E.g., opposing without exception databases, regulations on sales, etc.

If targeting is impossible, then the only way to move the needle on gun deaths is to massively reduce the total number of guns in circulation. This fuels the “they’re gonna take our gunz” paranoia that the NRA feeds on.

64 Kragar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:47:25pm

re: #60 Feline Fearless Leader

Crow T Robot is a sign of the Apocalypse!

I thought everyone knew this already.

Image: 3527494631_f5de6b029e.jpg

65 KingKenrod  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:49:27pm

re: #29 lawhawk

And tracking them would be done how? /

In-state versus out-of-state is done how? Log books? Computer GPS tracking?

Look, it can be done on a per-mile basis, and states could require annual odmeter readings to arrive at tax due, but if someone says is an interstate commuter (driving between say NJ and PA to go to work or NY to NJ or CT to NY, how do you apportion those miles outside your state, or do you not even try)?

And in the case of VA, the gas tax ends up getting a boost from Interstate traffic - folks who drive I-95 to get to other destinations outside VA and only stop to get gas. States like NJ benefit from this as well - they aren’t necessarily destinations in their own right, but the gas tax revenues get a boost from interstate commerce. Changing to other schemes would eliminate that source of revenue and impose a higher burden on in-state taxpayers.

It’s one of the reasons that many states/localities impose higher hotel/rental car fees (often a 1/3 or more of the total rental price) - a revenue source that doesn’t have a constituency in-state.

Another thing a per-mile tax does is remove the distinction between gas guzzlers and high MPG cars - everyone pays the same. A gas tax penalizes cars that use more gas per mile.

67 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:49:29pm

re: #13 Sol Berdinowitz

nein! nein! nein!

Oh yes, yes, yes!

/Tarantino

68 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:51:33pm

If we outlaw well regulated militias, then only outlaws will regulate militias!!!

You can de-regulate this militia when you pry the manual from my cold, dead hands!

Yessiree, every time the NRA go on about the 2nd Amendment, we have to remind them about those well regulated militias, they have been neglected too long in this debate!

69 Kragar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:53:08pm

re: #66 jaunte

Fischer: Anti-Gay Activists are Now ‘the New Rosa Parks’ and Victims of Jim Crow

Ted Nugent Calls Gun Owners The Next Rosa Parks

Derp without end, amen.

Because Rosa Parks stood her ground and gun downed the guy who told her to move.

70 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:53:38pm

re: #68 Sol Berdinowitz

If we outlaw well regulated militias, then only outlaws will regulate militias!!!

You can de-regulate this militia when you pry the manual from my cold, dead hands!

Yessiree, every time the NRA go on about the 2nd Amendment, we have to remind them about those well regulated militias, they have been neglected too long in this debate!

But Heller!!!

71 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:53:41pm

When you regulate militias only militias will have regulations…
O_o

72 Jolo5309  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:55:14pm

re: #52 Bulworth

Oh well then of course in that case, let’s just forget about any restrictions. We didn’t know that. Geebus./

Seriously, the Newtown shooter’s multiple-gun-owning mother was probably all of those things. But she wasn’t responsible. Or she just had too damn much weaponry to ensure the community around her would remain safe.

I think he skipped the word “responsible” on purpose.

73 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:57:07pm
74 Kragar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 1:59:34pm

re: #73 Gus

Apparently, he gave it to us so we could recycle centuries old derps and ignore what our 5 senses and simple logical reasoning tell us.

75 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:00:59pm

re: #73 Gus

God did not give us a mind so that we could use it to deny or question his existence.

He gave us a mind so we could deny and question Evolution and global warming.

76 jaunte  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:01:11pm

re: #73 Gus

Look how successful it’s been in changing everyone into selective readers.

77 Kragar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:02:30pm

String of bombings kill 101, injure 200 in Pakistan

At least 101 people were killed in bombings in two Pakistani cities on Thursday in one of the country’s bloodiest days in recent years, officials said, with most casualties caused by sectarian attacks in Quetta.

The bombings underscored the myriad threats Pakistani security forces face from homegrown Sunni extremist groups, the Taliban insurgency in the northwest and the less well-known Baloch insurgency in the southwest.

78 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:02:32pm
79 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:03:15pm

re: #78 Gus

[Embedded content]

She’s crazy and should not be owning guns.

80 jaunte  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:03:29pm

re: #78 Gus

Still not really a defense against a government armed with carrier battle groups.

81 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:03:32pm

re: #77 Kragar

String of bombings kill 101, injure 200 in Pakistan

Last Tweet.

82 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:04:22pm

re: #78 Gus

The gun people are angry, calling the show in droves. That woman just said shoulder-fired rockets are fine. Thoughts?!!

How else do you stop a mass murderer driving a tank?

83 Kragar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:04:29pm

re: #79 Targetpractice

She’s crazy and should not be owning guns.

The funniest thing about privately owned rocket launchers are the backblast related injuries.
/

84 freetoken  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:05:51pm

re: #73 Gus

That’s got to go down in Twitterdom as a classic.

85 Kragar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:06:17pm

re: #82 Sol Berdinowitz

How else do you stop a mass murderer driving a tank?

The only way to stop a bad guy with a tank is a good guy with a tank.
/

86 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:07:31pm

re: #78 Gus

87 allegro  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:07:33pm

WRT Louie Giglio’s self-removal from the inaugural benediction, a statement from the Presidential Inaugural Committee:

“We were not aware of Pastor Giglio’s past comments at the time of his selection and they don’t reflect our desire to celebrate the strength and diversity of our country at this Inaugural. Pastor Giglio was asked to deliver the benediction in large part for his leadership in combating human trafficking around the world. As we now work to select someone to deliver the benediction, we will ensure their beliefs reflect this administration’s vision of inclusion and acceptance for all Americans.“ – Addie Whisenant, PIC Spokesperson

88 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:08:41pm

re: #85 Kragar

The only way to stop a bad guy with a tank is a good guy with a tank.
/

Not true. Predator and Reaper Drones can carry Hellfire missiles.

/DRROOONNES!!1

89 Bulworth  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:09:23pm

re: #76 jaunte

It would be nice if Pastor Mark would allow scripture to change Pastor Mark.

90 allegro  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:09:46pm

re: #87 allegro

As we now work to select someone to deliver the benediction, we will ensure their beliefs reflect this administration’s vision of inclusion and acceptance for all Americans.

I vote for Fr Guido Sarducci.

91 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:12:39pm
92 Ian G.  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:14:09pm

re: #73 Gus

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I’m questioning God’s existence, so I guess he didn’t give me this mind. It probably evolved from a simpler organism’s mind.

93 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:14:47pm

re: #91 Gus

BTW if we’d left it up to the militia, the British would have suppressed the American revolution in about 1777.

Yes, to defeat them we needed an even better-regulated Contintal Army, for chrissakes.

Does this guy think that a bunch of guys in buckskin jackets hid behind trees and just sniped at the British until they gave up and left?

94 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:15:25pm

re: #92 Ian G.

I’m questioning God’s existence, so I guess he didn’t give me this mind. It probably evolved from a simpler organism’s mind.

Clearly then you got your brain from the devil! /

95 Ian G.  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:15:32pm

re: #38 jaunte

Good for him. I vowed that if I ever make it to age 90, I’m doing whatever I damn well want to my body, health consequences be damned. If that means sneaking out of the hospital to grab a beer, so be it.

96 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:16:08pm

re: #93 Sol Berdinowitz

Yes, to defeat them we needed an even better-regulated Contintal Army, for chrissakes.

Does this guy think that a bunch of guys in buckskin jackets hid behind trees and just sniped at the British until they gave up and left?

That’s what he’s saying. More or less.

97 Ian G.  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:17:10pm

re: #66 jaunte

Fischer: Anti-Gay Activists are Now ‘the New Rosa Parks’ and Victims of Jim Crow

Ted Nugent Calls Gun Owners The Next Rosa Parks

Derp without end, amen.

The loony right just loves them some whiny victimhood.

98 jaunte  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:18:01pm

Emily L. Hauser:
What feminism isn’t about: Cabinet headcounts.

“….Here’s another radical notion: Part of why this President has so many more men than women to choose from when filling any post rests in the sexism which continues to mark and harm our society, at each and every level, not least the professional level where women continue to suffer systematic discrimination. And for all that, 43% of Obama appointees have been women (and hey now! Valerie Jarrett’s leg is just visible in this by-now infamous but somewhat misleading photograph). Not to mention that if the GOP had not successfully hounded Susan Rice out of the nomination process last month, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation right now…”

99 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:21:30pm

re: #93 Sol Berdinowitz

Yes, to defeat them we needed an even better-regulated Contintal Army, for chrissakes.

Does this guy think that a bunch of guys in buckskin jackets hid behind trees and just sniped at the British until they gave up and left?

And the French supplying outside assistance and supplies. Outside assistance and a real military on your side are required for a successful insurrection. Without it you can play Sparticus if you like…

100 freetoken  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:21:57pm

This ought to open up some political discussions, if exploited:

DNA in Mother’s Blood Can Spot Genetic Mutations in Fetus

Fetal DNA circulating in a pregnant mother’s blood can be used to detect a wide variety of genetic abnormalities before birth, opening the door for noninvasive testing for more conditions.

By sequencing DNA that escapes into women’s bloodstreams, scientists were able to detect disease-causing mutations that are now normally found by piercing a mother’s womb with a needle to get amniotic fluid, according to a study in the American Journal of Human Genetics.

[…]


“This could largely replace invasive testing,” she said in a telephone interview, “and, no doubt, is an exciting next step in the future of prenatal testing.”


[…]

101 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:23:18pm

re: #96 Gus

That’s what he’s saying. More or less.

History: How does it work?

102 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:24:23pm

re: #101 Sol Berdinowitz

History: How does it work?

If you’re trying to find it on TV it’s Hitler and aliens all the way down.
///

103 bratwurst  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:24:57pm

re: #101 Sol Berdinowitz

History: How does it work?

Mispost!

104 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:26:22pm

re: #103 bratwurst

And remember, Frum is indisputably among the BRIGHTEST right wingers.

What’s wrong with what Frum said?

105 freetoken  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:27:35pm

re: #102 Feline Fearless Leader

If you’re trying to find it on TV it’s Hitler and aliens all the way down.
///

… to the bottom of sea, where exo-planet Nazis built pyramids…

106 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:28:08pm

re: #105 freetoken

… to the bottom of sea, where exo-planet Nazis built pyramids…

Beneath the seabed is the Hollow Earth

107 bratwurst  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:28:47pm

re: #104 Gus

What’s wrong with what Frum said?

Oops…I totally misread what he said. I blame sciatica, although this is not the first time I have misread something in a Frum tweet…expecting him to fall into line and be stupid I guess.

108 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:29:22pm

re: #107 bratwurst

Oops…I totally misread what he said. I blame sciatica.

OK. Was wondering. Moar coffee!

109 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:29:23pm

re: #104 Gus

What’s wrong with what Frum said?

If he is saying that we needed a Federal Army to gain and secure our freedom, then there is nothing wrong with it. I do not know what prompted his quote.

110 jaunte  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:29:32pm

re: #105 freetoken

… to the bottom of sea, where exo-planet Nazis built pyramids…

…no one knows who they were or what they were doing,
but their legacy remains, hewn into the living rock…

111 freetoken  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:30:10pm

re: #106 Sol Berdinowitz

Beneath the seabed is the Hollw Earth…

… in which dwell another species of exoplanet aliens, living along side dinosaurs….

112 allegro  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:30:20pm

re: #100 freetoken

This ought to open up some political discussions, if exploited:

DNA in Mother’s Blood Can Spot Genetic Mutations in Fetus

It could also explain some miscarriages and the fact that an estimated 50% of fertilized eggs are spontaneously aborted naturally.

113 Targetpractice  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:31:07pm

re: #93 Sol Berdinowitz

Yes, to defeat them we needed an even better-regulated Contintal Army, for chrissakes.

Does this guy think that a bunch of guys in buckskin jackets hid behind trees and just sniped at the British until they gave up and left?

Most of the “militia” morons think The Patriot was an historically-accurate portrayal of how the Revolutionary War was won. That the militia were the key movers and shakers, while the Continental Army was idiots marching in lines to be slaughtered.

114 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:32:03pm

re: #109 Sol Berdinowitz

If he is saying that we needed a Federal Army to gain and secure our freedom, then there is nothing wrong with it. I do not know what prompted his quote.

That’s pretty much what he was saying I think. Prior Tweet…

115 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:33:21pm

Wolverines!

116 freetoken  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:35:46pm

A good day to be die or be born a biologist:

Died This Day: Carolus Linnaeus
Born May 23, 1707 – Jan. 10, 1778.

Born This Day: Nicolaus Steno
born Jan. 10 xxxx – Nov. 26, 1686

This proves that being a Capricorn, to be be a Gemini and die in the house of Capricorn, is to be a good scientist .

117 efuseakay  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:36:56pm

re: #113 Targetpractice

Most of the “militia” morons think The Patriot was an historically-accurate portrayal of how the Revolutionary War was won. That the militia were the key movers and shakers, while the Continental Army was idiots marching in lines to be slaughtered.

Remind them that without the French navy, we’d all be speaking proper English. (According to the movie)

118 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:39:11pm

re: #115 Gus

Wolverines!

Armadilloes!

119 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:39:23pm

Ha Ha!
— Nelson

120 EPR-radar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:41:11pm

re: #99 William Barnett-Lewis

And the French supplying outside assistance and supplies. Outside assistance and a real military on your side are required for a successful insurrection. Without it you can play Sparticus if you like…

French assistance in the US revolution has to be airbrushed out of Wingnut History (TM). For wingnuts, it is unpossible that US independence depended in part on assistance from ancestors of the cheese-eating surrender monkeys.

121 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:43:13pm

re: #120 EPR-radar

French assistance in the US revolution has to be airbrushed out of Wingnut History (TM). For wingnuts, it is unpossible that US independence depended in part on assistance from ancestors of the cheese-eating surrender monkeys.

United States
Kingdom of France France (1778-83)
Spain Spain (1779-83)
Dutch Republic Dutch Republic (1780-83)

Co-belligerents
Mysore (1779–84)
Flag of Vermont Republic.svg Vermont (1777-83)
Oneida
Tuscarora
Watauga Association
Catawba
Lenape

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

122 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:43:46pm

The other side.

Great Britain
German auxiliaries

Co-belligerents
Onondaga
Mohawk
Cayuga
Seneca
Cherokee

123 abolitionist  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:44:45pm

re: #24 Sol Berdinowitz

It is technically possible to just make drivers pay mer mile driven, and abolish the gas tax. That would be user-oriented and completely fair.

Lousy idea. It would seriously diminish the cost of fuel as a percentage of overall costs, and thereby undermine everyone’s motivation for minimizing the amounts of fuel used.

If I owned a car that got 15 mpg, I’d have near-zero motivation to replace it with one that got 30. Or to supplement it with one that got 30. As for the latter, our current conventions/laws with respect to registration and insurance make it uneconomical for me to even consider owning a second vehicle, whatever the reason.

124 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:45:01pm

35,000 Continentals
44,500 Militia
5,000 Continental Navy sailors (at height in 1779)[1]
53 ships (active service at some point during the war)[1]
12,000 French (in America)
~60,000 French and Spanish (in Europe)

125 efuseakay  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:45:43pm

re: #118 Dancing along the light of day

Armadilloes!

Honey Badgers!

126 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:46:03pm

re: #113 Targetpractice

Most of the “militia” morons think The Patriot was an historically-accurate portrayal of how the Revolutionary War was won. That the militia were the key movers and shakers, while the Continental Army was idiots marching in lines to be slaughtered.

Well, Camden was an epic screw-up, but the movie is still badly flawed. The best way to say it is to note that guerrilla actions by militia in the Carolinas kept America from losing the south, but actually taking on Lord Cornwallis’ main force required regulars under good leaders. In Dan Morgan and Nathaniel Greene, the Continental Army finally found leaders who could fight Cornwallis and Tarlton and not be crushed.

127 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 2:55:34pm

re: #117 efuseakay

Remind them that without the French navy, we’d all be speaking proper English. (According to the movie)

Adm. De Grasse did well at the Chesapeake Capes, as RN Adm. Graves allowed the French to complete their deployment before attacking. With De Grasse’s victory, Cornwallis was trapped in Yorktown.

De Grasse, however, ended the war in failure. In the fall of 1782 his fleet was attacked by the Royal Navy in the Caribbean. At the resulting Battle of the Saintes, De Grasse was again slow to deploy, but this time he was made to pay for it. The aggressive and ruthless Adm. Rodney commanded the British ships and he ordered his ships to charge in without forming a line of battle. Had de Grasse’s ships been quicker to form they might have capped the T on Rodney, but as things actually occurred the British demolished the french fleet and de Grasse was made Rodney’s prisoner.

128 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:05:04pm

Did I just break the thread?

129 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:06:40pm

I just sold a bike. A nice, full-suspension mountain bike.

Then someone brought me a plate full of chocolate chip cookies.

Can’t wait to see what happens next.

130 Varek Raith  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:10:30pm

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

Did I just break the thread?

Nope, I did!
*Runs off laughing maniacally*

131 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:10:57pm

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

Apparently.

De Grasse was fortunate that he did not live to see the French Revolution. As an aristocrat who lost to the English he probably would have lost his head for it.

132 Kragar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:12:44pm

Buster Wilson: ‘There is Nobody Out There that is Any More Hateful’ than ‘Big Gay’ Bloggers

American Family Radio general manager Buster Wilson is joining his AFA colleague Bryan Fischer in expressing his outrage over Louie Giglio’s decision to withdraw from inauguration ceremonies, unleashing a tirade against Think Progress, The New Civil Rights Movement, the Southern Poverty Law Center and us, declaring us the most hateful and mean people in the land. He said that the Christians in America may soon face imprisonment and death over their views on homosexuality. Wilson also claimed that gay rights supporters consider themselves “wiser” than God and Paul the Apostle, apparently unaware that many Christians do not subscribe to the AFA’s anti-gay agenda and interpretation of scripture.

And now, for the rebuttal from Big Gay:

133 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:13:23pm

re: #129 wrenchwench

Ice cream with marshmallows?

134 EPR-radar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:13:58pm

re: #131 William Barnett-Lewis

Apparently.

De Grasse was fortunate that he did not live to see the French Revolution. As an aristocrat who lost to the English he probably would have lost his head for it.

Ironically, the war debt the French regime incurred in the American Revolution contributed to revolutionary instability.

135 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:14:15pm

re: #129 wrenchwench

10 speed racing bike?

136 Varek Raith  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:14:40pm

re: #132 Kragar

Buster Wilson: ‘There is Nobody Out There that is Any More Hateful’ than ‘Big Gay’ Bloggers

And now, for the rebuttal from Big Gay:

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I consider myself wiser than bronze age humans and their stories.

137 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:15:09pm

Pay-tree-uts.

138 Kragar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:15:10pm

re: #136 Varek Raith

I consider myself wiser than bronze age humans and their stories.

HERETIC!

139 EPR-radar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:16:14pm

re: #132 Kragar

Buster Wilson: ‘There is Nobody Out There that is Any More Hateful’ than ‘Big Gay’ Bloggers

And now, for the rebuttal from Big Gay:

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Dear RW nut jobs. Let’s apply the body count test. I’ll consider taking your claims of persecution of Christians in the US seriously if you can show me a body count.

140 Varek Raith  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:16:21pm

re: #137 Gus

Pay-tree-uts.

So…
Utz pays trees for their chips?
Good to know!

141 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:16:51pm

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142 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:17:04pm

re: #133 Dancing along the light of day

Ice cream with marshmallows?

That was yesterday. Someone brought me a slice of Tres Leches cake. It was like white cake all soggy with vanilla ice cream, and frosting that tasted like vanilla marshmallow fluff. Here’s a link, but what I had was a two layer cake.

143 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:17:33pm

re: #140 Varek Raith

So…
Utz pays trees for their chips?
Good to know!

144 Varek Raith  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:17:41pm

re: #141 Gus

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What manner of bot are you who can conjure flame without flint and tinder?!

145 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:18:02pm

re: #144 Varek Raith

What manner of bot are you who can conjure flame without flint and tinder?!

[Link: fsymbols.com…]

146 Varek Raith  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:18:43pm

re: #143 Gus

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..
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Wowzers.

147 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:18:53pm

re: #135 PhillyPretzel

10 speed racing bike?

These days, they have 10 just in the back. In the old days, it was 5 in the back times two in the front = ten speeds. Now they just call ‘em road bikes, ‘cause it could have 20 or 30 speeds.

148 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:19:47pm

re: #147 wrenchwench

Thanks. I still have a 3 speed touring bike.

149 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:20:30pm

̿ ̿̿’̿’̵͇̿̿з==(•̪●)==ε/̵͇̿̿/’̿’̿ ̿ ̿̿

150 bratwurst  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:21:14pm

Ok, not likely to have been authored by the man himself (few celebs do their own tweeting)…but still:

151 Kragar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:21:36pm

re: #143 Gus

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152 jaunte  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:21:45pm

re: #150 bratwurst

153 gwangung  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:21:48pm

re: #139 EPR-radar

Dear RW nut jobs. Let’s apply the body count test. I’ll consider taking your claims of persecution of Christians in the US seriously if you can show me a body count.

FSM, yes. Give us a body count.

Bet the body count of LGBTs is three or more orders of magnitude higher…

154 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:22:01pm

re: #131 William Barnett-Lewis

Apparently.

De Grasse was fortunate that he did not live to see the French Revolution. As an aristocrat who lost to the English he probably would have lost his head for it.

True. He was a solid commander, but as the SAS motto has it “Who Dares, Wins”. Admiral Rodney was ruthless and brutal to American POWs, but in general he isn’t hated by American historians because he had the guts to break the rules at a time when breaking from the Royal Navy’s Fighting Instructions was punishable by death and by breaking the formal rules he won the battle.

155 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:22:17pm

re: #148 PhillyPretzel

Thanks. I still have a 3 speed touring bike.

I had a green 3 speed Raleigh. Now I have a 21 speed and a 27 speed, both mountain bikes.

156 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:22:51pm

re: #150 bratwurst

re: #152 jaunte

From the self admitting braggart. //

157 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:23:28pm

re: #152 jaunte

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That, um, front holster looks a bit dicey.

158 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:23:46pm

re: #155 wrenchwench

I have a blue one of the same name. I like the hand and coaster brake combination.

159 Varek Raith  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:24:04pm

You couldn’t pay me to holster a weapon in my pants.
Lunacy!

160 jaunte  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:24:23pm

re: #157 wrenchwench

“Wango Pistolo”

161 jaunte  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:25:05pm

Nugent showed the way for Plaxico Burress.

162 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:25:49pm

re: #158 PhillyPretzel

I have a blue one of the same name. I like the hand and coaster brake.

That rear hub alone is worth almost $100.

163 Varek Raith  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:25:55pm

re: #157 wrenchwench

That, um, front holster looks a bit dicey.

Yeah…
I’ve read enough stories of guys accidentally shooting themselves in the groin to not ever do that.

164 EPR-radar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:26:04pm

re: #153 gwangung

FSM, yes. Give us a body count.

Bet the body count of LGBTs is three or more orders of magnitude higher…

The ratio should be infinite, since even if there have been instances where an LGBT murderer killed a Christian because of animus against Christians, no such instance has been with the tacit support and approval of the state or its institutions, as is needed to get a claim of systematic oppression off the ground.

165 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:27:36pm

BBL

166 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:28:43pm
167 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:29:45pm

re: #162 wrenchwench

My bike was only $300. That was quite a few years ago.

168 jaunte  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:29:59pm

Imagine my surprise.

Criminal pasts don’t disqualify members of Arpaio posse

A posse applicant “could be disqualified” if they have a felony conviction, have used illegal drugs excessively, or sport a misdemeanor narcotics conviction, according to the sheriff’s office posse application. Despite Hoopingarner’s disclosure, he was hired on the posse.

And then there was Jacob Cutler. According to a Flagstaff police report, Cutler threw his girlfriend to the ground and choked her while trying to sexually assault her in 2008. When she didn’t cooperate, he allegedly threatened to call police and said they would side with him, because he “has a badge.” He was a member of Arpaio’s posse at the time.

Cutler and Hoopingarner attended anger management and drug diversion programs, respectively, and their records were eventually wiped clean. Cutler maintained his posse membership and Hoopingarner was later approved as a member.

While combing through thousands of pages of court records and police reports, CBS 5 Investigates discovered that some posse members were behaving as though they were above the law.

Kevin Ray Campos was arrested in 2007 outside a Scottsdale club for disorderly conduct. According to the police report, he spit on several bouncers and then hurled profanities at a Scottsdale police officer. He pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor, according to court records, and was hired as a posse member a year later.

Is this an effort to drive everyone into homeschooling?

169 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:30:23pm

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170 EPR-radar  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:32:30pm

re: #168 jaunte

This fish rots from the head down. Arpaio’s thugs are a perfect match to the man himself.

171 jaunte  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:33:23pm
…And then there’s the accusation from 2007 that a driver backed into Clark’s car and then left the scene. Clark allegedly followed the car, rammed the vehicle and held the driver and passenger at gunpoint, all while he was off-duty.

Yet, Clark still remains in the posse.

Safety first!

172 bratwurst  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:33:23pm

Anyone seen this yet?

Image: platcoin.png

I mean, it only makes sense…a $100 bill is MUCH heavier than a $1, right?

173 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:34:09pm

re: #172 bratwurst

Anyone seen this yet?

Image: platcoin.png

I mean, it only makes sense…a $100 bill is MUCH heavier than a $1, right?

Yep. Fox News!

174 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:34:32pm

100 dollar bill is printed on 100 dollars of paper!

175 Varek Raith  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:38:33pm

re: #172 bratwurst

Anyone seen this yet?

Image: platcoin.png

I mean, it only makes sense…a $100 bill is MUCH heavier than a $1, right?

OMFG, it’s not based on the worth/weight ratio of platinum.
Morans.

176 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:39:16pm

re: #152 jaunte

Yes, sane gun owner….
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177 Skip Intro  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:39:48pm

re: #172 bratwurst

Anyone seen this yet?

Image: platcoin.png

I mean, it only makes sense…a $100 bill is MUCH heavier than a $1, right?

You keep thinking that Fox News just can’t get any dumber, then every day they prove you wrong again.

178 Varek Raith  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:39:50pm

I doubt there is even enough platinum in the world to make it the way Fox is suggesting.
lol.

179 makeitstop  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:40:44pm

re: #119 Gus

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Ha Ha!
— Nelson

From the comments: a link to a story in Time Magazine

“Yeager ‘punched the gas to the floor and the engine raced, but the car stayed stationary.’ The ex-cop had forgotten that the car he was driving had a manual shift, and had failed to engage the clutch or the gears.”

“Surette continued firing until he passed out from loss of blood, while Yeager, unable to see the attackers, blasted away pointlessly at a barricade before running to take cover in a ditch on the opposite side of the road.”

“In the confused aftermath of the firefight, a vehicle headed toward the group from behind. Fearing the worst, Yeager fired into the car, hitting two people. Mark thinks they were civilians, but Yeager is certain they were ‘a clean-up crew of insurgents, coming to finish us off.’”

Yeah, this guy’s a real badass, all right.
//

180 Skip Intro  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:41:16pm

re: #178 Varek Raith

I doubt there is even enough platinum in the world to make it the way Fox is suggesting.
lol.

It tells you they know the intelligence level of their audience very well to suggest such an idiotic thing.

181 Varek Raith  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:43:16pm

World production of platinum in 2010 was 192,000kg.
~80% of that in South Africa.

182 Varek Raith  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:46:18pm

91 years to make that coin if all produced platinum in the world went fully towards its minting.
Lol.

183 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:50:09pm
184 engineer cat  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:50:14pm

use latinum instead

see: rules of aquisition

185 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:50:29pm

Pixels!

186 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:54:48pm

re: #166 Gus

Assembled an army? How about an armed rabble you fucking idiot. That is even if 1/2 of them actually have the balls/means to show up.

187 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 3:57:53pm

re: #186 Bubblehead II

Assembled an army? How about an armed rabble you fucking idiot. That is even if 1/2 of them actually have the balls/means to show up.

He edited the first video and now he wants his old videos back!!

How does that work?

188 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 4:00:43pm

Then he’s talking about “no murders” or at least “not yet” in this 2nd video.

189 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 4:01:51pm

re: #187 Gus

He edited the first video and now he wants his old videos back!!

How does that work?

It doesn’t. The Internet is forever

190 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 4:02:01pm

“I do not condone anybody committing any kind of felonies up to and including any aggravated assaults or murders, unless it’s necessary…Right now it is not necessary.”

191 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 4:02:12pm

re: #188 Gus

Then he’s talking about “no murders” or at least “not yet” in this 2nd video.

He seems nice.

192 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 4:04:22pm

Unless it’s necessary? Murder? Heh? What?

193 engineer cat  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 4:05:20pm

Image: platcoin.png

please don’t tell foxnews universe that nixon took us offa the gold standard and now dollar bills are backed with diet kibbles and irrational numbers

194 engineer cat  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 4:09:48pm

re: #185 Gus

Pixels!

monetized pixel instruments

195 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 4:12:10pm

re: #194 engineer cat

monetized pixel instruments

Teh Chinlee are reverse engineering UFOs!!11ty

196 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 4:17:18pm

Charles, a question for you. When I click on account settings it requires me to log in again. Seems kind of redundant as I am already logged in. Might this be a bit of code you can do away with?

197 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 4:18:45pm

re: #196 Bubblehead II

Charles, a question for you. When I click on account settings it requires me to log in again. Seems kind of redundant as I am already logged in. Might this be a bit of code you can do away with?

It’s basic security so that if you happen to stay logged in on a public computer, someone can’t change your password. You need to know the password to change it.

198 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 4:21:15pm

re: #197 Obdicut

Good point. I hadn’t thought about that as I don’t use public computers.

199 Gus  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 4:25:36pm

Derp.

200 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 5:05:28pm

This is “The Real” @ToddKincannon account, NOT a parody account.

201 im_gumby_damnit  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:24:52pm

Very sad when adults inflict their bigotry on children.

202 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:26:18pm

That’s one powerful photograph. Thanks for posting it.

203 Jay C  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:55:32pm

re: #177 Skip Intro

I posted the question on a number of blogs (my own calculating skills being Teh Suck), and AFAICT, the answers seem to agree, that to get a platinum coin worth $1T (as Fox News would have it) would require just under 18,000 tons of platinum, and would be about 1 meter (3 ft) thick, and about 50 meters (160 ft) across. On the one hand, it would require more platinum than, apparently exists in the world, but on the other hand, it would be really hard to counterfeit….

204 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Fri, Jan 11, 2013 4:53:26am

re: #112 allegro

It could also explain some miscarriages and the fact that an estimated 50% of fertilized eggs are spontaneously aborted naturally.

I am training myself to think of those as God’s abortions. The term could come in handy at a family gathering some day.


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