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1 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 5:47:37pm

Very life of pi.

2 freetoken  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 6:00:29pm

Weird.

3 freetoken  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 6:02:03pm

Here, in its 179MB glory, is the PDF of the draft “National Climate Assessment” released yesterday for comment:

[Link: ncadac.globalchange.gov…]

Big, boring government report, but it does have some nice pretty pictures.

4 freetoken  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 6:08:01pm

Virtual reality may be all we have left, after real reality becomes too bad in which to dwell:

On Scale of 0 to 500, Beijing’s Air Quality Tops ‘Crazy Bad’ at 755

5 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 6:14:11pm

I’m going home where the new unit will allow me to view the above.

Later, lizards.

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6 b_sharp  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 6:19:03pm

Posting from Mint Linux in a surprisingly fast VM because the more I use Windows 8 the more I actively dislike it.

7 Interesting Times  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 6:26:25pm

re: #4 freetoken

Left a comment for you downstairs related to something else you posted.

8 freetoken  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 6:32:02pm

re: #7 Interesting Times

I had posted the EIA link when it came out, and commented on how the EIA has a very long history of, well, putting out basically whatever the oil industry feeds them.

Their production models are economic models, which they clearly emphasize, and do not designed to include data on the actual physical substance itself, or the geology. They look at “oil” production like any economics outfit looks at production.

The EIA was created as part of the effort of importing countries to grapple with the economic power of OPEC. The EIA is the US version of the international IEA, and even though the EIA is part of the Energy Department it has very little to do with the rest of the DoE’s efforts. I think the EIA belongs in Commerce, as that is really what it does, or the Interior Department, as they are the ones that manage resources.

9 freetoken  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 6:34:12pm

Bjorn Lomborg refreshes his denier credentials:

Global warming is sexy. Unfortunately.

10 freetoken  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 6:37:24pm

CA gun show draws 10,000 people ‘getting ready for the next revolution’

What drew an estimated 10,000 people to a Northern California gun show? Simple. According to one attendee, they’re scared.

Obama wants to take everybody’s guns away,” said Bob Daziel, who stood in line with hundreds on Saturday to get into the Crossroads of The West event in Daly City, California. “So they’re down here buying ammo, buying guns, they’re getting ready for the next revolution.

[…]

11 b_sharp  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 6:38:37pm

re: #9 freetoken

Bjorn Lomborg refreshes his denier credentials:

Global warming is sexy. Unfortunately.

What profit is there for him to constantly minimize the affects of AGW? I find that as disgusting as the shit Tim Ball does.

12 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 6:41:24pm

re: #10 freetoken

CA gun show draws 10,000 people ‘getting ready for the next revolution’

To be fair, that’s only one attendee. But he’s a very crazy attendee.

13 Gus  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 6:41:57pm

Damn freezing in Denver for the past two days. Can’t wait for Spring.

14 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 6:42:33pm

re: #13 Gus

Damn freezing in Denver for the past two days. Can’t wait for Spring.

Peyton Mannings spring started about an hour ago!!!

15 Gus  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 6:43:25pm

re: #14 sattv4u2

Peyton Mannings spring started about an hour ago!!!

80 dead in Bangladesh. Record low.

16 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 6:45:00pm

re: #15 Gus

80 dead in Bangladesh. Record low.

I’ll cancel my travel plans

17 Gus  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 6:46:42pm

Hmm. So Liveleak takes a long time to load but the videos play fine. Weird.

18 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 6:47:09pm

re: #15 Gus

80 dead in Bangladesh. Record low.

When you spend your whole life dealing with high temperatures, a cold snap can be lethal.

You can be sure that this instance will be cited by various AGW deniers for their “COLD SNAP! PEOPLE DEAD!!1 WHAT GLOBAL WARMING?! HURR, HURR, HURR!!1” schtick.

19 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 6:57:16pm

And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons (although, I have no idea why. I’ll have under 8 hours before the long quiet drive back here beckons)

20 Political Atheist  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:02:53pm

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

I fear LA will lose homeless people tonight to the cold. Tonight it will get down to 30 in the area.

21 Gus  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:04:49pm

re: #19 sattv4u2

And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons (although, I have no idea why. I’ll have under 8 hours before the long quiet drive back here beckons)

Thanks for the Liveleak internet test before.

22 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:05:04pm

re: #20 Political Atheist

I fear LA will lose homeless people tonight to the cold. Tonight it will get down to 30 in the area.

That’s sad. An actual freeze is deadly when you’re outside at night, unless you’ve got gear most homeless people don’t have.

23 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:07:59pm

re: #20 Political Atheist

I fear LA will lose homeless people tonight to the cold. Tonight it will get down to 30 in the area.

They should come to Detroit. 54 degrees here now.

24 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:08:04pm

Both my Mom and Dad did something stupid. Divorce likely. A bit stressed, and I need to worry about my puppy, and what to do with her.

25 freetoken  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:08:51pm

re: #11 b_sharp

What profit is there for him to constantly minimize the affects of AGW? I find that as disgusting as the shit Tim Ball does.

Well, it keeps getting him interviews in magazines, and on Fox, etc.

26 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:11:08pm

re: #24 ProBosniaLiberal

Both my Mom and Dad did something stupid. Divorce likely. A bit stressed, and I need to worry about my puppy, and what to do with her.

PLL, please get some professional help. If things for your parents are that bad you’re going to need help in getting through it.

27 Gus  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:11:21pm

re: #23 Vicious Babushka

They should come to Detroit. 54 degrees here now.

Weird.

28 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:11:59pm

re: #27 Gus

Weird.

Just shows how good we are at messing up the climate.

29 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:12:47pm

I’m reading Steve Berry’s novel “The Columbus Affair” another “Da Vinci Code” clone novel.

So ridiculously stupid and full of lame-ass mistakes. The hero is a thinly disguised Tom Friedman and the villain is this mysterious sinister Joo.

The premise of this silly story is that Columbus was a seekrit Joo who stashed away Juice artifacts in a cave in Jamaica.

30 Gus  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:14:33pm

re: #28 Varek Raith

Just show how good we are at messing up the climate.

Last summer we set a record for +100F days. Kind of mild fall however. Not much snow yet this winter. Cold snap though and it’s BAFC right now.

31 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:14:39pm

re: #26 Dark_Falcon

I love my doggy. So, I need to figure something out. And Mom wants to walk out.

At the very least, I need to figure this out, and pronto.

32 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:14:49pm

re: #29 Vicious Babushka

I’m reading Steve Berry’s novel “The Columbus Affair” another “Da Vinci Code” clone novel.

So ridiculously stupid and full of lame-ass mistakes. The hero is a thinly disguised Tom Friedman and the villain is this mysterious sinister Joo.

The premise of this silly story is that Columbus was a seekrit Joo who stashed away Juice artifacts in a cave in Jamaica.

Was he an albino Jew???
/

33 Usually refered to as anyways  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:18:14pm

re: #29 Vicious Babushka

So ridiculously stupid and full of lame-ass mistakes. The hero is a thinly disguised Tom Friedman and the villain is this mysterious sinister Joo.

The premise of this silly story is that Columbus was a seekrit Joo who stashed away Juice artifacts in a cave in Jamaica.

/ Jamaica! JAMAICA unposible

34 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:28:40pm

re: #29 Vicious Babushka

I’m reading Steve Berry’s novel “The Columbus Affair” another “Da Vinci Code” clone novel.

So ridiculously stupid and full of lame-ass mistakes. The hero is a thinly disguised Tom Friedman and the villain is this mysterious sinister Joo.

The premise of this silly story is that Columbus was a seekrit Joo who stashed away Juice artifacts in a cave in Jamaica.

That’s one serious mistake.

35 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:29:41pm

Really stressed right now.

I don’t know if I could take care of a Border Collie right now. I don’t make much money. Just $20k a year.

36 b_sharp  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:33:32pm

Anyone here used a tablet as a desktop/laptop input device?

37 Political Atheist  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:33:52pm

re: #35 ProBosniaLiberal

Really stressed right now.

Oh man that sucks, I hate that overwhelmed feeling. I try to find a healthy physical outlet. Dunno if that’s your style but I wish you the best getting through.

38 Kragar  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:37:30pm

Reddit cofounder found dead, apparent suicide

Aaron Swartz, an online activist and founder of the wildly popular social network Reddit, has taken his own life at the age of 26. According to AlterNet, Swartz was facing legal difficulties and struggling with illness and depression.

39 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:38:54pm

re: #35 ProBosniaLiberal

Really stressed right now.

I don’t know if I could take care of a Border Collie right now. I don’t make much money. Just $20k a year.

Keep the dog, you need a companion. But keep looking for a better job, too. They are out there, I know, since I finally got a decent job offer on Friday.

40 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:44:42pm

Well, looks like the Packers lack of a real defense all year is finally catching up to them. Guess I’ll hope for Seattle if they do manage to lose this one.

41 Kragar  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:45:27pm

re: #40 William Barnett-Lewis

Well, looks like the Packers lack of a real defense all year is finally catching up to them. Guess I’ll hope for Seattle if they do manage to lose this one.

Packers?

42 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:48:00pm

re: #4 freetoken

Virtual reality may be all we have left, after real reality becomes too bad in which to dwell:

On Scale of 0 to 500, Beijing’s Air Quality Tops ‘Crazy Bad’ at 755

Beijing’s air quality is an embarrassment to the government. The “official” air quality reports are always rosier than the ones issued by the US Embassy. The Chinese government has asked the Embassy to cease reporting air quality, but the Embassy has so far ignored the requests.

Beijing is a traffic nightmare, even with its modern subway and highways. There are just too many people, and more people are buying and driving cars every day. I read one article that said 1,500 cars are added to the Beijing streets every day!

So, when my friends suggest I should try teaching in Beijing where the pay is so much better, I politely say no thanks. I like breathing O2 over CO anytime.

43 Targetpractice  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:50:21pm

re: #40 William Barnett-Lewis

Well, looks like the Packers lack of a real defense all year is finally catching up to them. Guess I’ll hope for Seattle if they do manage to lose this one.

Silver was saying the Superbowl’s gonna be New England/Seattle. Don’t think he said who he thought would win.

44 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:50:41pm

re: #39 Dark_Falcon

BTW, congrats on the new job. I saw your comment yesterday, but wasn’t logged in so I didn’t reply.

45 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:53:19pm

re: #43 Targetpractice

Silver was saying the Superbowl’s gonna be New England/Seattle. Don’t think he said who he thought would win.

If that’s the matchup, put your money on Brady, Belichick, and the Patriots.

46 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:53:58pm

re: #44 CuriousLurker

BTW, congrats on the new job. I saw your comment yesterday, but wasn’t logged in so I didn’t reply.

Thanks.

47 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:57:22pm

re: #45 Dark_Falcon

If that’s the matchup, put your money on Brady, Belichick, and the Patriots.

Alas, probably, but I still pull for anyone but Belichick on every Sunday.

48 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:57:26pm

DERP *headdesk*

49 Kragar  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:58:30pm

re: #48 CuriousLurker

DERP *headdesk*

[Embedded content]

It could always be a nameless supernatural evil.

50 b_sharp  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:58:40pm

re: #48 CuriousLurker

DERP *headdesk*

[Embedded content]

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

51 Targetpractice  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:58:57pm

re: #48 CuriousLurker

DERP *headdesk*

[Embedded content]

Who’s dead now?

52 Kragar  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 7:59:38pm

re: #51 Targetpractice

Who’s dead now?

It could be anyone, but the Obama administration is covering it up!

53 Targetpractice  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:00:40pm

re: #52 Kragar

It could be anyone, but the Obama administration is covering it up!

Oh ok, well remember that just in case I show up dead tomorrow. What I did to piss off Obama, I don’t know, but I’m sure he wants me dead.

//

54 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:00:48pm

re: #51 Targetpractice

Who’s dead now?

Beats me. Hang on… Oh, here we go:

55 Targetpractice  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:02:07pm

re: #54 CuriousLurker

Beats me. Hang on… Oh, here we go:

[Embedded content]

*headdesk*

56 BongCrodny  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:02:38pm

re: #45 Dark_Falcon

If that’s the matchup, put your money on Brady, Belichick, and the Patriots.

They’ve lost to both the Ravens and the 49ers this year.

They’re still a good team, but they barely got by 2-14 Jacksonville with the bye week on the line.

57 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:02:55pm

re: #54 CuriousLurker

According to yahoo he did himself in. He did have a record of depression. Very sad. :(

58 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:04:18pm

re: #57 PhillyPretzel

According to yahoo he did himself in. He did have a record of depression. Very sad. :(

Sad indeed. *sigh*

59 Kragar  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:04:21pm

re: #57 PhillyPretzel

According to yahoo he did himself in. He did have a record of depression. Very sad. :(

Suicide is just a code for Obama killing you.

60 b_sharp  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:05:05pm

re: #57 PhillyPretzel

According to yahoo he did himself in. He did have a record of depression. Very sad. :(

Sometimes the future is more frightening than the abyss.

61 BongCrodny  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:06:12pm

re: #54 CuriousLurker

Beats me. Hang on… Oh, here we go:

[Embedded content]

Why was Swartz considered a political enemy of progressives?

62 Kragar  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:06:59pm

re: #61 BongCrodny

Why was Swartz considered a political enemy of progressives?

Because shut up, thats why.
/

63 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:07:05pm

My mom had a mental breakdown from stress and bit him. Badly.

Him being like me, he is hyper-sensitive.

64 Targetpractice  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:08:03pm

re: #57 PhillyPretzel

According to yahoo he did himself in. He did have a record of depression. Very sad. :(

I actually red the full-metal derp linked to and could actually feel my IQ points drop. Apparently he drew Obama’s ire by protesting against SOPA, which caused an overzealous state attorney to press for him to stand trial even while MIT didn’t want to pursue criminal charges. They wanted him dead because he’d thwarted their plans for controlling the internet. And the blogger asserts that if Aaron had just been as much a Biblethumper as her, he’d have realized he was a conservative and joined their cause.

The stupid, IT BURNS!

65 BongCrodny  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:09:02pm

The 10 Most Hated Companies In America


Any guesses before you look?

66 Kragar  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:09:06pm
67 Interesting Times  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:09:09pm

re: #54 CuriousLurker

Beats me. Hang on… Oh, here we go:

[Embedded content]

Wut? The online activist group Aaron Swartz co-founded, DemandProgress.org, has this to say in its mission statement:

Demand Progress works to win progressive policy changes for ordinary people through organizing, and grassroots lobbying. In particular, we tend to focus on issues of civil liberties, civil rights, and government reform.

Uh, yeah. Exactly the kind of people progressives would consider a “political enemy”.

*checks self for potentially dangerous DERP exposure levels*

68 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:09:21pm

re: #59 Kragar

Suicide is just a code for Obama killing you.

You see, Obama has this mind altering ray that he’s had mounted on a DRONE!!1 and it fires a beam that makes people with mental issues go either homicidal or suicidal. That’s not only the story of the death of Aaron Swartz, its also how the Newtown shootings happened. Obama had Swartz killed to ensure that FEMA could rule the Internet, and made Lanza a mass murderer so he could TAKE AWAY OUR GUNZ!!!11

Admit it: You could see Alex Jones saying this.

69 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:09:50pm

Oh yeah, you guys remember Yeager, the “I’m going to start killing people” guy? He seems to have had an epiphany:

I suppose a visit from the feds and getting your carry permit revoked will tend to give you a quick change of heart, huh?

SPLC: DHS Reportedly Investigating Tennessee Weapons Instructor

70 Kragar  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:13:58pm

re: #65 BongCrodny

Not surprised to see my employers on the list.

71 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:14:26pm

re: #61 BongCrodny

Why was Swartz considered a political enemy of progressives?

Not that I know of. I thought he was a progressive himself.

72 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:14:55pm

re: #65 BongCrodny

The 10 Most Hated Companies In America

Any guesses before you look?

AIG for sure.

73 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:15:58pm

44 to 24 with 3:30 left? McCarthy you incompetent so & so, you & TT have blown it again and I’ll bet you two idiots Scapegoat Dom Capers on Monday.

74 Targetpractice  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:16:56pm

re: #70 Kragar

Not surprised to see my employers on the list.

You work for J.C. Penney? You monster!

///

75 Kragar  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:17:02pm

re: #68 Dark_Falcon

‘You’re in danger! You’re in danger!’ Alex Jones shouts in latest unhinged rant

“They’ve got poison in the water! Poison in the water!” he bellowed. “This is a normal response to this! This is how they should have responded to Hitler! You’re in danger! You’re in danger! You’re in danger, everybody watching! They control both parties! You’re in danger! Wake up! Get out of your trance! They should have resisted Hitler like this!”

76 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:18:13pm

Uh-oh. Some guy keeps screaming at his GF:

“Get the fuck over here!”

“Noooo…”

“I SAID get THE FUCK over here!!”

“Nooooo….”

“Where are you GOING??”

“To the house to get…”

“NO. Get the F….”

Silence. They must have gone inside. Sheesh.

77 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:18:48pm

re: #63 ProBosniaLiberal

I need to find a person in OK willing to take me and a somewhat aggressive Border Collie in.

Or an apartment. But who to roommate.

78 Targetpractice  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:18:54pm
79 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:19:24pm

HP? 10 worst? Oh Carly you nasty piece of work, you’re going to kill it in the end after all. God, one single person killing three of the 5 best IT companies? She had to have been on MS’s payroll the whole time…

80 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:20:04pm

re: #70 Kragar

Not surprised to see my employers on the list.

My employer has won best company to work for in Silicone Valley, I think 2 years in row now. They rock!

81 Kragar  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:20:38pm

You know who else delivered unhinged rants to brainwashed sycophants about the dangers of a conspiracy controlling their lives?

82 Kragar  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:21:48pm

re: #79 William Barnett-Lewis

HP? 10 worst? Oh Carly you nasty piece of work, you’re going to kill it in the end after all. God, one single person killing three of the 5 best IT companies? She had to have been on MS’s payroll the whole time…

Meg Twitman is calling the shots nowadays.

So no good news anytime soon.

83 Gus  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:22:09pm
84 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:22:17pm

re: #75 Kragar

‘You’re in danger! You’re in danger!’ Alex Jones shouts in latest unhinged rant

“Th’v gt psn n th wtr! Psn n th wtr!” he bellowed. “Ths s nrml rspns t ths! Ths s hw thy shld hv rspndd t Htlr! Y’r n dngr! Y’r n dngr! Y’r n dngr, vrbd wtchng! Th cntrl bth prts! Y’r n dngr! Wk p! Gt t f yr trnc! Thy shld hav rsstd Htlr lk ths!”

The violent lunatic says what?

85 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:23:00pm

re: #81 Kragar

You know who else delivered unhinged rants to brainwashed sycophants about the dangers of a conspiracy controlling their lives?

Hitler.

86 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:23:28pm

re: #81 Kragar

You know who else delivered unhinged rants to brainwashed sycophants about the dangers of a conspiracy controlling their lives?

Jones just Godwined himself.

87 BongCrodny  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:23:47pm

re: #75 Kragar

‘You’re in danger! You’re in danger!’ Alex Jones shouts in latest unhinged rant

“They’ve got poison in the water! Poison in the water!” he bellowed. “This is a normal response to this! This is how they should have responded to Hitler! You’re in danger! You’re in danger! You’re in danger, everybody watching! They control both parties! You’re in danger! Wake up! Get out of your trance! They should have resisted Hitler like this!”

“Listen to me! Please listen! If you don’t, if you won’t, if you fail to understand, then the same incredible terror that’s menacing me WILL STRIKE AT YOU!” — Kevin McCarthy, “Invasion of the Body Snatchers”

Hmmm…

88 Kragar  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:24:19pm

re: #84 Dark_Falcon

The violent lunatic says what?

Image: keepcalmpostergrungysmall.png

89 Kragar  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:24:51pm

re: #86 Dark_Falcon

Jones just Godwined himself.

Yo Dawg, I hear you like Godwins…

90 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:26:22pm

re: #88 Kragar

Image: keepcalmpostergrungysmall.png

Cthulhu can’t eat Alex Jones or enter his mind. The sheer level of Bad Craziness in Jones would be toxic even for Cthulhu.

91 Kragar  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:27:44pm

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

Cthulhu can’t eat Alex Jones or enter his mind. The sheer level of Bad Craziness in Jones would be toxic even for Cthulhu.

Much the same way Khorne looks at Bryan Fischer and tells him he needs to back it down a notch.

92 Gus  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:28:05pm

re: #89 Kragar

Yo Dawg, I hear you like Godwins…

You know who else liked Godwins.

93 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:28:21pm

Jay Leno destroyed Alex Jones.. You know the clip when he was just losing it and pointing his finger wildly? They imposed a gun in his hand shooting everything..It was funnier than Hell.

94 Gus  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:28:58pm

re: #93 HoosierHoops

Jay Leno destroyed Alex Jones.. You know the clip when he was just losing it and pointing his finger wildly? They imposed a gun in his hand shooting everything..It was funnier than Hell.

Conan?

95 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:29:47pm

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

Cthulhu can’t eat Alex Jones or enter his mind. The sheer level of Bad Craziness in Jones would be toxic even for Cthulhu.

There are times when I’d wish for the Doctor’s call box simply to drop Alex off in Byzantium where even his paranoia wouldn’t be enough to match the real conspiracies and intrigues of the Emperor’s court.

96 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:29:55pm

I’m rattled enough, I don’t know if I can go to work tomorrow.

97 Gus  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:30:47pm

re: #93 HoosierHoops

Jay Leno destroyed Alex Jones.. You know the clip when he was just losing it and pointing his finger wildly? They imposed a gun in his hand shooting everything..It was funnier than Hell.

98 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:31:16pm

re: #91 Kragar

Much the same way Khorne looks at Bryan Fischer and tells him he needs to back it down a notch.

Well, how can you shed blood for the blood god when you’re so full of DERP you can’t get out of bed without stepping on your own dick?

99 kirkspencer  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:32:03pm

re: #82 Kragar

Meg Twitman is calling the shots nowadays.

So no good news anytime soon.

Actually, somewhat disagree. She did a couple of things I thought very smart, enough so that provided:
a) nobody buys the company out; and
b) she can resist a stockholder eviction notice,
I think HP is likely to turn around over the upcoming couple of years.

A minor anecdote that I use as a tell. Whitman’s predecessor was preparing to spin off the most profitable product - printers - as a(n initially) wholly owned subsidiary, but with its own stock and books. Whitman reversed that one. In my experience, the people who spin off cash cows are pirates and short-term leaders looking for loot now instead of growth later. I found it encouraging.

FWIW when she took over she said it would take five years to recover, of which the first two would continue to decline. So far she seems to be on track.

100 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:32:42pm

re: #95 William Barnett-Lewis

There are times when I’d wish for the Doctor’s call box simply to drop Alex off in Byzantium where even his paranoia wouldn’t be enough to match the real conspiracies and intrigues of the Emperor’s court.

Don’t wish for that! Jones would become so insane he’d collapse in on himself and pull the entire world in his Black Hole of Stupid!

101 wilburs  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:32:51pm

re: #69 CuriousLurker

Oh yeah, you guys remember Yeager, the “I’m going to start killing people” guy? He seems to have had an epiphany:

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I suppose a visit from the feds and getting your carry permit revoked will tend to give you a quick change of heart, huh?

SPLC: DHS Reportedly Investigating Tennessee Weapons Instructor

In McNairy County, Tenn., Sheriff Guy Buck said Yeager “definitely has overstated his law enforcement credentials.”

what a surprise

102 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:33:25pm

re: #96 ProBosniaLiberal

I’m rattled enough, I don’t know if I can go to work tomorrow.

Dude. Go to bed & rest. That will help.

I don’t know if you have any set of devotions you can pray, but when I’m in that kind of space I pray an Anglican rosary. It helps calm the heart, the mind & soul. Given the history of Islam there must be some similar set of prayers you can use to calm your heart, mind & soul before the one god. That will bring you the rest you need.

Now, good night… :)

103 BongCrodny  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:35:37pm

re: #95 William Barnett-Lewis

There are times when I’d wish for the Doctor’s call box simply to drop Alex off in Byzantium where even his paranoia wouldn’t be enough to match the real conspiracies and intrigues of the Emperor’s court.

Didn’t they already have a Doctor Who episode about that this season?

“Asylum of the Alex.”


Hey, it’s 11:35 on Saturday night. This *is* the A material.

104 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:38:59pm

re: #100 Dark_Falcon

Don’t wish for that! Jones would become so insane he’d collapse in on himself and pull the entire world in his Black Hole of Stupid!

Dude, Jones is a piker compared to them. He’d be strung up rotting in the sun within a week.

105 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:39:28pm

re: #99 kirkspencer

Actually, somewhat disagree. She did a couple of things I thought very smart, enough so that provided:
a) nobody buys the company out; and
b) she can resist a stockholder eviction notice,
I think HP is likely to turn around over the upcoming couple of years.

A minor anecdote that I use as a tell. Whitman’s predecessor was preparing to spin off the most profitable product - printers - as a(n initially) wholly owned subsidiary, but with its own stock and books. Whitman reversed that one. In my experience, the people who spin off cash cows are pirates and short-term leaders looking for loot now instead of growth later. I found it encouraging.

FWIW when she took over she said it would take five years to recover, of which the first two would continue to decline. So far she seems to be on track.

Concur. The person trying to build up the top earning divisions is someone who generally wants the company to grow and do well over time.

106 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:39:48pm

E gad, I didn’t know Alex Jones was from Texas. Why, oh why do so many of the worst crazies have to be from my home state. *sob*

107 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:40:11pm

re: #97 Gus

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thanks.. It was funny wasn’t it?

108 Kragar  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:40:56pm

re: #106 CuriousLurker

E gad, I didn’t know Alex Jones was from Texas. Why, oh why do so many of the worst crazies have to be from my home state. *sob*

Everything is bigger in Texas.

109 b_sharp  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:42:24pm

re: #106 CuriousLurker

E gad, I didn’t know Alex Jones was from Texas. Why, oh why do so many of the worst crazies have to be from my home state. *sob*

When the human brain is immersed in a specific type of thought the connections strengthen and a feedback sets up.

110 Lidane  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:42:33pm

re: #106 CuriousLurker

E gad, I didn’t know Alex Jones was from Texas. Why, oh why do so many of the worst crazies have to be from my home state. *sob*

The first time I saw Alex Jones was right after I moved to Austin in 1998. He was ranting on one of the local public access TV channels.

I wish he’d stayed there. At least then he’d be ignored by everyone but the local cranks instead of being a national figure.

111 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:43:00pm

31-45 final and they’ll blame Capers on Monday. Bet on it.

Why do people keep thinking that McCarthy & Thompson have a clue? All the two of them have ever done is ride Rodger’s arm & when that’s not enough the Packers lose, as they did tonight.

112 Kragar  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:44:08pm

A guy in my office wanted to talk politics, then wanted to know where I was going when the first thing he did was talk about something he read on Infowars

113 Gus  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:44:36pm

re: #108 Kragar

Everything is bigger in Texas.

Everything appears smaller in the “right side” mirror.

114 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:44:36pm

re: #108 Kragar

Everything is bigger in Texas.

I’d never actually listened to him before. I just watched him with Morgan and am currently watching him on HuffPo Live. He’s totally effing bug nuts. I had no idea… O_o

115 Lidane  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:45:12pm

re: #111 William Barnett-Lewis

31-45 final and they’ll blame Capers on Monday. Bet on it.

Why do people keep thinking that McCarthy & Thompson have a clue? All the two of them have ever done is ride Rodger’s arm & when that’s not enough the Packers lose, as they did tonight.

I’m bummed the Packers lost. Oh well. There’s always next season.

Now I have to decide who I care about with the Seahawks/Falcons game and I have to hope that Houston does better against New England than the Packers did tonight.

116 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:45:16pm

re: #106 CuriousLurker

E gad, I didn’t know Alex Jones was from Texas. Why, oh why do so many of the worst crazies have to be from my home state. *sob*

He’s from Waco originally and became a professional lunatic after the Branch Davidian Siege in 1993. He’s another reason some people pronounce ‘Waco’ as ‘Whacko’.

117 Kragar  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:45:28pm

re: #111 William Barnett-Lewis

31-45 final and they’ll blame Capers on Monday.

Damn you perennial winter-deciduous plants!!!!

118 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:47:05pm

re: #111 William Barnett-Lewis

31-45 final and they’ll blame Capers on Monday. Bet on it.

Why do people keep thinking that McCarthy & Thompson have a clue? All the two of them have ever done is ride Rodger’s arm & when that’s not enough the Packers lose, as they did tonight.

I know how you feel when it comes to your team having idiots in the front office, Chicago has been there and done that.

119 SteveMcG  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:47:16pm

Can’t bring myself to root for Ray Lewis. Two guys get stabbed to death during a fight that he was involved in, and Lewis didn’t see nothin’. He’s just lucky that the Broncos blew it. Huge choke.

120 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:48:16pm

re: #96 ProBosniaLiberal

I’m rattled enough, I don’t know if I can go to work tomorrow.

Sorry to hear that. In a few years when you have a wife and a couple of kids running around in diapers, A house payment and car payments to make..Food you need to feed the family and medical bills..You will be going to be working every single day and asking for OT.
Don’t you know? You’re just another brick in the wall

121 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:49:01pm

re: #116 Dark_Falcon

He’s from Waco originally and became a professional lunatic after the Branch Davidian Siege in 1993. He’s another reason some people pronounce ‘Waco’ as ‘Whacko’.

Wiki says he was born in Dallas, but it could be wrong. Yeah, it says he organized a successful effort to build a new Branch Davidian church as a memorial. Whacko indeed.

122 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:50:03pm

Ok, here’s something a hell of a lot more fun from Texas:

123 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:50:52pm

re: #120 HoosierHoops

That is a life I want.

Quiet, with a loving family, with fights that don’t turn into 1+ long screaming matches and occasional force.

I want to be Rory Williams, in summary.

124 Lidane  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:52:49pm

re: #122 William Barnett-Lewis

Also from Texas and more fun than Alex Jones, Luap Nor, and all the other idiots:

125 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 8:56:52pm

re: #124 Lidane

Also from Texas and more fun than Alex Jones, Luap Nor, and all the other idiots:

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That almost makes me want to pull out the classic ZZ Top vids ;)

126 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:00:45pm

re: #123 ProBosniaLiberal

That is a life I want.

Quiet, with a loving family, with fights that don’t turn into 1+ long screaming matches and occasional force.

I want to be Rory Williams, in summary.

You me and the rest of the world. I had two great parents yet I can still remember sitting in a stairwell listening to them scream at the top of their lungs for hours for too much of my childhood. Still they remained together. I don’t know what your parents face. “Life’s a bitch. Then you die.” was how we put it in the Army.

Look at my earlier post. I was very serious there. Get yourself centered that way and you’ll be better for yourself and for your parents.

127 BongCrodny  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:00:56pm

re: #122 William Barnett-Lewis

Ok, here’s something a hell of a lot more fun from Texas:

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Not familiar with Bowling for Soup except the name.

What was the excerpt at the beginning of the song? I kinda liked that one, too.

128 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:05:47pm

re: #127 BongCrodny

Not familiar with Bowling for Soup except the name.

What was the excerpt at the beginning of the song? I kinda liked that one, too.

A different song off that first album that went nowhere IIRC. It started their schtick of starting a video with a blurb from the last video’s song.

129 BongCrodny  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:07:49pm

As long as we’re in a Texas music mood…

This one’s got an Irish accent.

Charlie Robison - John O’Reilly

130 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:08:07pm

re: #128 William Barnett-Lewis

A different song off that first album that went nowhere IIRC. It started their schtick of starting a video with a blurb from the last video’s song.

Thus with “High School Never Ends” they opened the video with a clip from their only true hit to date, ‘1985’.

131 Lidane  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:10:17pm

re: #127 BongCrodny

Not familiar with Bowling for Soup except the name.

Do you have kids? If so, you’ve heard Bowling for Soup. They do the theme song for Phineas & Ferb.

132 BongCrodny  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:10:23pm

More than their share of crazy people in that state, it seems — but they do make some damn fine music down there.

133 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:11:16pm

re: #129 BongCrodny

As long as we’re in a Texas music mood…

This one’s got an Irish accent.

Charlie Robison - John O’Reilly

Texas music. I’m not sure why but I remember when Stevie Ray played my hometown. I took my HS sweetheart to the show but she wasn’t as excited as me after :) Few years later she was one of the last the Deadheads chasing them around shortly before Jerry croaked. The woman I ended up marrying liked both punk & the blues. I probably dodged a bullet there LOL!

134 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:12:24pm

re: #131 Lidane

Do you have kids? If so, you’ve heard Bowling for Soup. They do the theme song for Phineas & Ferb.

And a version of the Jimmy Neutron theme :) I have that one in my favorites, what can I say?

135 SteveMcG  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:13:43pm

My favorite kids’ show music was from Bear in the Big Blue House.

136 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:15:14pm

re: #130 Dark_Falcon

Thus with “High School Never Ends” they opened the video with a clip from their only true hit to date, ‘1985’.

And that’s a glorious song if for no other reason the phrase “Music still on MTV”.

137 Lidane  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:16:35pm

re: #135 SteveMcG

My favorite kids’ show music was from Bear in the Big Blue House.

Yo Gabba Gabba! or nothing. The music they have on that show is amazing:

I’m glad they’re starting kids young on killer music with that show.

138 boredtechindenver  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:17:45pm

One of my favorite Texas bands


139 BongCrodny  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:19:15pm

re: #133 William Barnett-Lewis

Texas music. I’m not sure why but I remember when Stevie Ray played my hometown. I took my HS sweetheart to the show but she wasn’t as excited as me after :) Few years later she was one of the last the Deadheads chasing them around shortly before Jerry croaked. The woman I ended up marrying liked both punk & the blues. I probably dodged a bullet there LOL!

Never got to see SRV.

But if I had my own Tardis, a Stevie Ray Vaughn concert would be one of my first stops.

140 Gus  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:20:25pm

Bob Wils.

141 sagehen  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:20:36pm

re: #130 Dark_Falcon

Thus with “High School Never Ends” they opened the video with a clip from their only true hit to date, ‘1985’.

One of my all-time favorite Stargate fanvids is for that song:

142 Lidane  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:20:54pm

re: #139 BongCrodny

Never got to see SRV.

But if I had my own Tardis, a Stevie Ray Vaughn concert would be one of my first stops.

I never got to see SRV. He died when I was still in high school. I remember my mom picking me up from school and telling me about it.

143 boredtechindenver  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:21:31pm

My other favorite Texas Band

144 Lidane  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:23:17pm

re: #140 Gus

Bob Wils.

Guy Clark:

145 BongCrodny  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:26:13pm

re: #138 boredtechindenver

One of my favorite Texas bands

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Like those guys, but I gotta confess: that Freddy Fender song from the mid-70’s, “Before The Next Teardrop Falls,” made me want to pull my hair out by the roots.

146 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:27:38pm

re: #142 Lidane

I never got to see SRV. He died when I was still in high school. I remember my mom picking me up from school and telling me about it.

I’ve never been able to imagine what could be behind clapton’s karma… his son, taking a different chopper, his best friend’s wife…

147 Gus  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:28:55pm

re: #144 Lidane

Guy Clark:

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148 BongCrodny  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:31:23pm

Mayhem, murder and madness from down Texas way:

Slobberbone - I Can Tell Your Love Is Waning

149 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:32:40pm

re: #69 CuriousLurker

Oh yeah, you guys remember Yeager, the “I’m going to start killing people” guy? He seems to have had an epiphany:

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I suppose a visit from the feds and getting your carry permit revoked will tend to give you a quick change of heart, huh?

SPLC: DHS Reportedly Investigating Tennessee Weapons Instructor

During his big apology at the beginning, I’m pretty sure he has his fingers crossed under the table.

150 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:34:45pm

re: #149 wrenchwench

During his big apology at the beginning, I’m pretty sure he has his fingers crossed under the table.

I’m 100% sure.

151 Lidane  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:35:36pm

The ignorant yelling at the stupid:

152 Feline Fearless Leader  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:36:15pm

re: #139 BongCrodny

Never got to see SRV.

But if I had my own Tardis, a Stevie Ray Vaughn concert would be one of my first stops.

I saw SRV in a small Pittsburgh place called The Decade back in the mid-80s (84 or 85). Saw George Thorogood as well in the same time period in a slightly larger venue. Different styles, but still rockin’ stuff.

153 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:37:52pm

re: #149 wrenchwench

During his big apology at the beginning, I’m pretty sure he has his fingers crossed under the table.

Hell, I’m as hard core a gunner as anyone still here and I’d say that little shitbird is only mad he said his crap in the wrong place.

Had it been at stormfront, or the like, we’d still not know of it now.

154 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:38:56pm

re: #152 Feline Fearless Leader

I saw SRV in a small Pittsburgh place called The Decade back in the mid-80s (84 or 85). Saw George Thorogood as well in the same time period in a slightly larger venue. Different styles, but still rockin’ stuff.

Never could get into GT. Just too much of the glory of being a booze hound. Probably cause I am one.

155 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:39:17pm

re: #153 William Barnett-Lewis

Hell, I’m as hard core a gunner as anyone still here and I’d say that little shitbird is only mad he said his crap in the wrong place.

Had it been at stormfront, or the like, we’d still not know of it now.

And he keeps saying, ‘It’s not time…’ like he’s going to call you next week and give you the signal.

156 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:39:56pm

re: #151 Lidane

The ignorant yelling at the stupid:

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How is he not in a mental hospital?

157 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:40:21pm

re: #144 Lidane

Guy Clark:

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I’m nuts about this one:

158 Targetpractice  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:40:31pm

re: #151 Lidane

The ignorant yelling at the stupid:

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Perhaps Krauthammer was right, maybe Obama’s goal was to spark a conservative civil war. If so, mission accomplished.

159 blueraven  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:40:54pm

Doug Sahm

Townes Van Zandt

160 Lidane  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:41:37pm

re: #156 CuriousLurker

How is he not in a mental hospital?

Because he somehow manages to dress and feed himself.

161 Gus  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:41:48pm

Pack Your Bags Part 3

Shamus /

162 Lidane  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:43:54pm

re: #159 blueraven

Townes Van Zandt

Oh I love him. LOVE him. This Lyle Lovett cover of one of his songs never fails to make me cry:

163 Kragar  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:45:23pm

re: #151 Lidane

The ignorant yelling at the stupid:

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LOL, just the other day, Beck was going on about what a nutcase Jones was.

164 Lidane  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:46:33pm

re: #163 Kragar

LOL, just the other day, Beck was going on about what a nutcase Jones was.

WTF. The guy threatening to build his own walled utopia has no business calling anyone else a nutcase.

165 BongCrodny  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:47:44pm

Feel like I’m listening to one of those Outlaw Country radio stations.

Getting some great ideas for mix tapes.

Thanks, everyone. :-)

166 Gus  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:49:43pm
167 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:50:05pm

Y’all are almost making me a little bit homesick for Texas.

168 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:50:12pm

re: #165 BongCrodny

Feel like I’m listening to one of those Outlaw Country radio stations.

Getting some great ideas for mix tapes.

Thanks, everyone. :-)

How about some youngsters:

169 Lidane  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:52:03pm

re: #165 BongCrodny

Feel like I’m listening to one of those Outlaw Country radio stations.

Getting some great ideas for mix tapes.

Thanks, everyone. :-)

Not from Texas and not outlaw country, but this would fit right in on that mix tape:

170 Kragar  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:52:55pm

re: #164 Lidane

WTF. The guy threatening to build his own walled utopia has no business calling anyone else a nutcase.

Glenn Beck Calls Alex Jones a ‘Crazy Person’

171 BongCrodny  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:53:57pm

Maybe the best political song I’ve heard in the last several years. And again, from Texas.

James McMurtry is the son of Larry McMurtry of “Lonesome Dove” fame.

James McMurtry - Cheney’s Toy

172 Lidane  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 9:55:35pm

re: #170 Kragar

Glenn Beck Calls Alex Jones a ‘Crazy Person’

ROFL. More projection than an IMAX theater.

173 Gus  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 10:00:33pm

When was the last time Glenn Beck came through on a plan?

174 Kragar  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 10:03:15pm

re: #172 Lidane

ROFL. More projection than an IMAX theater.

And all the while, Little Johnny Teaparty huddles under his Gadsden flag, clutching his Ron Paul action figures and praying his parents stop yelling at each other.

175 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 10:03:40pm

re: #171 BongCrodny

Maybe the best political song I’ve heard in the last several years. And again, from Texas.

James McMurtry is the son of Larry McMurtry of “Lonesome Dove” fame.

James McMurtry - Cheney’s Toy

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Holy shit. That’s good.

176 blueraven  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 10:05:24pm

Cant do Texas music without Joe Ely

Gallo del Cielo

177 TedStriker  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 10:08:53pm

re: #170 Kragar

Glenn Beck Calls Alex Jones a ‘Crazy Person’

You have some balls the size of boulders calling anyone else “crazy”, Glenn.

178 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 10:10:15pm

re: #176 blueraven

Cant do Texas music without Joe Ely

Gallo del Cielo

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No offense, but if I never hear that one again, it will be too soon. Believe it or not, it gets radio play around here.

Palate cleanser:

179 Lidane  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 10:16:34pm

Also from Texas— the Dixie Chicks:

180 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 10:18:06pm

re: #174 Kragar

And all the while, Little Johnny Teaparty huddles under his Gadsden flag, clutching his Ron Paul action figures and praying his parents stop yelling at each other.

I get where you’re going with it, but it’s still a fight not to reflexively down ding that comment. Just remember there’s a certain amount of truth behind every cliche.

Cause, yeah, I spent a shitload of time crying & praying my parents would stop yelling for a little while…

181 blueraven  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 10:28:20pm

Almost like a prayer, this

Maria Elena - Ry Cooder

182 HappyWarrior  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 10:28:38pm

re: #178 wrenchwench

No offense, but if I never hear that one again, it will be too soon. Believe it or not, it gets radio play around here.

Palate cleanser:

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Upding for Townes. One of the many great artists I’d otherwise not know if not for my Dad.

183 BongCrodny  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 10:28:46pm

I keep getting messages that say “3 people have unfriended you.”

At last count, I think I’m now at -147 friends.

184 sagehen  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 10:31:44pm

Kinky Friedman


Asleep at the Wheel

185 HappyWarrior  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 10:32:56pm

re: #183 BongCrodny

I keep getting messages that say “3 people have unfriended you.”

At last count, I think I’m now at -147 friends.

Heh would having -147 friends mean you have 147 nemesis’s?

186 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 10:33:02pm

re: #183 BongCrodny

I keep getting messages that say “3 people have unfriended you.”

At last count, I think I’m now at -147 friends.

Yeah, verily, you are doing something _right_. Don’t stop now.

187 BongCrodny  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 10:35:55pm

Do you think that at Red State this morning, they’re posting Ted Nugent and Lee Greenwood videos?

188 HappyWarrior  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 10:38:06pm

re: #187 BongCrodny

Do you think that at Red State this morning, they’re posting Ted Nugent and Lee Greenwood videos?

I dunno but that’s another reason to be happy to be here, no?

189 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 10:38:20pm

re: #177 TedStriker

Next on Celebrity Deathmatch: Alex “Crazy Man” Jones vs. Glenn “Goldmine” Beck!

190 HappyWarrior  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 10:40:30pm

re: #189 wheat-dogghazi

Next on Celebrity Deathmatch: Alex “Crazy Man” Jones vs. Glenn “Goldmine” Beck!

They try to out Godwin each other. Miss that show. Yeah it was silly but it was entertaining for a 12 year old brain.

191 blueraven  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 10:48:36pm

I will leave you all with this

Jerry Jeff Walker - Mr Bojangles

a lot of people dont realize he wrote and recorded this song first. It is my favorite version.

192 Kragar  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 10:49:52pm

Netflix has got the Frighteners on instant queue.

ME GUSTA!

193 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 10:54:44pm

re: #191 blueraven

I will leave you all with this

Jerry Jeff Walker - Mr Bojangles

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a lot of people dont realize he wrote and recorded this song first. It is my favorite version.

Thank you, I appreciate being told of that version.

194 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 11:08:56pm

Later, lizards.

Image: hC5914307.jpg

195 austin_blue  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 11:25:31pm

Well, as long as we’re doing Texas classics:

196 wilburs  Sat, Jan 12, 2013 11:48:20pm

re: #191 blueraven

I will leave you all with this

Jerry Jeff Walker - Mr Bojangles

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a lot of people dont realize he wrote and recorded this song first. It is my favorite version.

I love the David Bromberg version

197 BeenHereAwhile  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 12:07:13am

If you’re talking Texas Music, Billy Joe Shaver has to be part of the conversation.  He’s really a poet, and one I enjoyed working with back in the record label days. 

Here’s some examples of his song writing, some of which were hits for Waylon Jennings. 

Honky Tonk Heroes

“Georgia on a Fast Train” - Billy Joe Shaver

“I’m Gonna Live Forever” - Billy Joe Shaver 

“Since You Asked Me To”

Billy Joe’s song (true story) about when he shot and killed a man (the other guy pulled a gun & took too long to aim);

198 BeenHereAwhile  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 12:25:04am

re: #181 blueraven

Almost like a prayer, this

Maria Elena - Ry Cooder

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FWIW, some trivia, Duane Allman saw Ry Cooder perform with Taj Mahal, and was inspired to start playing slide guitar.

199 SteveMcG  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 12:28:55am

I have a odd song story. I had an old tape with a Christmas song that I couldn’t identify. Over the years I would try googling some of the words with no effect. This year I finally got a hit. Some guy with a blog called “Proof Positive” made an entry about the song with a youtube link and the title and singer. It was invaluable because my tape was really old and the quality was wearing down fast. So, armed with the title and singer I went to Itunes and bought the song. I was very pleased and went to this guy’s blog to post a comment and say thanks and wish him the best. We wound up trading a couple of comments and he wound up reposting that entry. For the halibut I took a look at the whole blog. It’s a right wing blog, not too loony or anything, but still right wing, and I put up a couple of comments on some of his entries. I figured we had a brief but fair conversation, but I just noticed that he changed the way you can post, so now I can’t say anything on his blog. Make room for one more in the bubble chamber!

200 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 1:07:00am

re: #199 SteveMcG

So, what was the song?

201 freetoken  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 1:07:51am

A little piece by Valentin Silvestrov

202 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 2:05:46am

re: #201 freetoken

A little piece by Valentin Silvestrov

Did he not spend his life pursuing Arkadii Tweetov?

203 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 2:09:49am

Satu up late finishing Ken Follett’s “The Fall of Giants”, which ends with the Beer Hall Putsch of 1923 being put down and one of the characters saying “Well, the leader, Hitler, is in prison. Glad that’s the end of him!”

Had to immediately jump into “Winter of the World”, which picks up the story line in 1933…

204 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 2:10:48am

re: #203 Sol Berdinowitz

I like Follett’s work, though I’ve read only two novels so far.

205 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 2:12:29am

My mom got me started on him when she sent me a copy of “Pillars of the Earth”, which, along with the sequel “World Eithout End” is a similar deal set in the Middle Ages, a storyline woven around historical events stretching over centuries.

206 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 2:44:25am

re: #205 Sol Berdinowitz

I heard about Pillars of Earth. It supposed to be really good, and it’s on my reading list, but not yet on my Kindle.

A Distant Mirror, by Barbara Tuchman, is not a novel, but it almost reads like one. It covers the 14th century, a really interesting time in European history.

207 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 2:57:29am

re: #206 wheat-dogghazi

I heard about Pillars of Earth. It supposed to be really good, and it’s on my reading list, but not yet on my Kindle.

A Distant Mirror, by Barbara Tuchman, is not a novel, but it almost reads like one. It covers the 14th century, a really interesting time in European history.

That one’s on my reading list…another good historical read was “Hawkwood Diabolical Englishman” by F Stonor Saunders, about the foreign mercenaries who made a fortune off the lack of central government in Italy in the 14th century.

Well organized militias, indeed…

208 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 3:12:59am

re: #207 Sol Berdinowitz

One of the English language textbooks here has a short article about Hawkwood, believe it or not. It prompted me to look him up on Wikipedia. He sure was a wiley fellow. If some city council didn’t pay him, he’d turn his soldiers loose to loot and pillage the city, or go visit a rival city and offer his services (for a suitable fee) to loot and pillage the first city on the rival’s behalf. Despite all this, the Italians loved him.

209 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 3:15:17am

re: #208 wheat-dogghazi

One of the English language textbooks here has a short article about Hawkwood, believe it or not. It prompted me to look him up on Wikipedia. He sure was a wiley fellow. If some city council didn’t pay him, he’d turn his soldiers loose to loot and pillage the city, or go visit a rival city and offer his services (for a suitable fee) to loot and pillage the first city on the rival’s behalf. Despite all this, the Italians loved him.

Point of the story was that hiring mercenaries seemed a cheap short-term solution for most city-states, but in the end, it would have been cheaper to raise and maintain their own armies.

210 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 3:52:28am

re: #209 Sol Berdinowitz

I think the residents considered it below their station to get involved in such messy things as warfare, so they outsourced it.

211 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 3:55:56am

re: #210 wheat-dogghazi

I think the residents considered it below their station to get involved in such messy things as warfare, so they outsourced it.

These were the people who invented modern capitalism and modern bookeeping. They were looking at the short-term bottom line.

We all know what that approach leads to…

212 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 4:03:35am

re: #211 Sol Berdinowitz

… government bailouts of mismanaged “too big to fail” corporations?

213 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 4:09:14am

re: #212 wheat-dogghazi

… government bailouts of mismanaged “too big to fail” corporations?

Or finding your city being attacked by the same mercenaries you sent to conquer another city but who then received a more lucrative counter-offer from the very people they were sent to attack…

yeah, much the same thing, I guess.

214 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 4:41:48am

re: #208 wheat-dogghazi

One of the English language textbooks here has a short article about Hawkwood, believe it or not. It prompted me to look him up on Wikipedia. He sure was a wiley fellow. If some city council didn’t pay him, he’d turn his soldiers loose to loot and pillage the city, or go visit a rival city and offer his services (for a suitable fee) to loot and pillage the first city on the rival’s behalf. Despite all this, the Italians loved him.

Ran into his tomb, either in St Peter’s in Rome or Santa Maria di Fiore in Florence. He’s buried under his English name.

215 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 4:48:31am

Read in the book that the Italians had a terrible time prouncing his name, they took to calling him “Aucuto” (The Needle).

216 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 4:51:50am

re: #215 Sol Berdinowitz

Johnny the Needle — has a nice ring to it.

217 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 4:53:30am

re: #214 Decatur Deb

Probably Florence. He had a lot of fans there.

218 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 4:55:52am

re: #217 wheat-dogghazi

Probably Florence. He had a lot of fans there.

Just wiki’ed it—he could be in either of his tombs, Rome or Florence, or sent back to England as requested. Probably still switching sides postmortem.

219 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 5:01:10am

It’s on in Mali, months ahead of the expected time:

Hundreds of French Troops Drive Back Mali Rebels

Note that a French helicopter was shot down and a crewman killed. The rebels are armed chiefly with weapons taken from Qaddafi’s stocks during and after the Libyan revolution. Even so, I expect the desert to be a killing ground for French armor and airpower as they go after the soft-skinned vehicles the rebels use to carry their heavy weapons and personnel.

220 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 5:34:27am

It’s Sunday Morning.

I’m not going to church

(I never do).

you?

221 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 5:37:25am

re: #219 Shiplord Kirel

One of my friends just finished a two-year Peace Corps stint there. He got out about the right time.

222 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 5:38:37am

re: #221 wheat-dogghazi

One of my friends just finished a two-year Peace Corps stint there. He got out about the right time.

Doesn’t seem to have worked.

223 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 5:49:56am

re: #222 Decatur Deb

Doesn’t seem to have worked.

I understand your sarcastic gag, but I do hope SK’s friend at least succeeded in making life better for someone while over there.

224 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 5:56:22am

re: #223 Sol Berdinowitz

Actually, he’s my friend, not SK’s. His job was to help the people build and maintain a fresh water supply for the village, organize irrigation of their fields and mitigate mosquito proliferation.

225 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 6:01:22am

re: #224 wheat-dogghazi

Actually, he’s my friend, not SK’s. His job was to help the people build and maintain a fresh water supply for the village, organize irrigation of their fields and mitigate mosquito proliferation.

Very cool!

226 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 6:05:58am

re: #224 wheat-dogghazi

Actually, he’s my friend, not SK’s. His job was to help the people build and maintain a fresh water supply for the village, organize irrigation of their fields and mitigate mosquito proliferation.

Let’s hope that work survives the current conflict.

227 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 6:08:08am

re: #219 Shiplord Kirel

It’s on in Mali, months ahead of the expected time:

Hundreds of French Troops Drive Back Mali Rebels

Note that a French helicopter was shot down and a crewman killed. The rebels are armed chiefly with weapons taken from Qaddafi’s stocks during and after the Libyan revolution. Even so, I expect the desert to be a killing ground for French armor and airpower as they go after the soft-skinned vehicles the rebels use to carry their heavy weapons and personnel.

‘Technicals’ don’t fare too well against armored cars with 105mm cannons, and the French have those.

I like this move by France, attacking when the enemy thought they had plenty of time to prepare. A well concealed and executed sneak attack can often yield great dividends.

228 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 6:09:42am

Dogs say I can go back to bed for a while.

Have a great morning all!

229 Obdicut  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 6:13:11am

Brunch at awesome Cuban place this morning, followed by dinner at awesome Greek place. I need to get to the gym.

230 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 6:15:34am

re: #65 BongCrodny

The 10 Most Hated Companies In America

Any guesses before you look?

I am shocked, SHOCKED that Walmart did not make the list and JCP did. I also see that my cellular carrier is on the list.

231 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 6:15:37am

Looking forward to a Sunday omelette, forgot I was out of eggs.

Blew off breakfast and went right into early lunch.

232 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 6:16:18am

I have to go to the pool but first I want to enjoy this frothy cappuccino.

233 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 6:37:57am

re: #230 Vicious Babushka

I am shocked, SHOCKED that Walmart did not make the list and JCP did. I also see that my cellular carrier is on the list.

Comcast is not on that list.
That list is poo.
/

234 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 6:45:24am

re: #233 Varek Raith

Comcast is not on that list.
That list is poo.
/

They listed their methodology, you don’t have to accept it.

Besides, there are no end of companies to hate, it is more a matter of why you hate them and how intensely.

235 Mattand  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 6:48:07am

re: #230 Vicious Babushka

I am shocked, SHOCKED that Walmart did not make the list and JCP did. I also see that my cellular carrier is on the list.

I’m not shocked about Walmart. Most people who shop there don’t give a shit about their predatory pricing and treatment of workers.

One guy I know feels compelled to shop there because he thinks anywhere else would bankrupt him. People like Penn Jillette promote the jobs they supply, while ignoring the shitty wages and non-existent benefits.

Does not surprise me at all.

236 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 6:51:23am

re: #235 Mattand

One guy I know feels compelled to shop [at K-Mart] because he thinks anywhere else would bankrupt him.

We outsource our manufacturing becuase it promises lower prices for American consumers.

The only jobs we then create are minimum-age, no-benefit jobs at K-Mart selling the stuff whose production we have outsourced. Which is all we can afford at our wage levels.

It is a great economic model for the likes of Bain Capital.

237 dragonfire1981  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 6:52:47am

re: #219 Shiplord Kirel

It’s on in Mali, months ahead of the expected time:

Hundreds of French Troops Drive Back Mali Rebels

Note that a French helicopter was shot down and a crewman killed. The rebels are armed chiefly with weapons taken from Qaddafi’s stocks during and after the Libyan revolution. Even so, I expect the desert to be a killing ground for French armor and airpower as they go after the soft-skinned vehicles the rebels use to carry their heavy weapons and personnel.

Well how about that? The French CAN fight!

238 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 6:55:48am

re: #237 dragonfire1981

Well how about that? The French CAN fight!

Yes, the do so when they have to, not just to prove that they can…

239 dragonfire1981  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 6:59:09am

So about this this stupid theory that Obama et al somehow killed the Reddit guy…

Let’s say Nancy Pelosi is found dead tomorrow. Would the RWNJs claim Obama and his thugs took her out too or would they label it an act of vengeance by a so-called “Patriotic” American?

240 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 7:02:06am

re: #238 Sol Berdinowitz

Yes, the do so when they have to, not just to prove that they can…

Except at the Battle of Mers-el-Kebir, when they sacrificed 1300 sailors for no other reason than to prove they were willing to.

[Link: ww2db.com…]

241 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 7:08:04am

re: #240 Decatur Deb

Except at the Battle of Mers-el-Kebir, when they sacrificed 1300 sailors for no other reason than to prove they were willing to.

[Link: ww2db.com…]

they did things like that, yes…but it seems they have started to learn their lesson…

242 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 7:11:31am

re: #241 Sol Berdinowitz

they did things like that, yes…but it seems they have started to learn their lesson…

Indochine was a great school, but some learned and some didn’t.

243 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 7:13:35am

re: #242 Decatur Deb

Indochine was a great school, but some learned and some didn’t.

I think that most Americans have come to agree that it was a great and tragic waste of lives, money and national reputation.

244 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 7:20:04am

re: #243 Sol Berdinowitz

I think that most Americans have come to agree that it was a great and tragic waste of lives, money and national reputation.

And a junior officer from that mess blessed our move into Baghdad.

245 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 7:21:21am

In those top 10 hated companies are three I could easily vote for: Dish, HP and Facebook. T-mobile is the only company that has SIM cards separate from phones or service plans, so that’s handy for me when coming back to the States for a short time. But I’m not surprised it’s on the list. I’m neutral on American; they’re no worse or better than any other US airline I’ve flown. And Nokia pairing up with Microsoft makes sense from a business standpoint, but I’m not going to buy a Win 8 by Nokia, even if I like my aging Symbian-based e63.

246 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 7:30:08am

re: #230 Vicious Babushka

I am shocked, SHOCKED that Walmart did not make the list and JCP did. I also see that my cellular carrier is on the list.

[hands over an envelope] Your winnings, Captain.

247 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 7:35:15am

re: #246 Dark_Falcon

[hands over an envelope] Your winnings, Captain.

Upding for Sharpe reference.

248 ninja cat  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 7:42:41am

re: #203 Sol Berdinowitz

Ah, you did it the easy way. I read the 1st book, couple of years go by and finally the 2nd one comes out. Read that, then was a little foggy on what happened in the 1st one, so went back and read that. Then just to make sure I had it all wrapped up, went back and read the 2nd one again. I am hopeful it doesn’t go past 3 books.

249 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 7:43:36am

re: #240 Decatur Deb

Except at the Battle of Mers-el-Kebir, when they sacrificed 1300 sailors for no other reason than to prove they were willing to.

[Link: ww2db.com…]

Boom:

Image: tmb_ship_bretagne4.jpg

Bretagne was not the first capital ship lost to a magazine explosion, not the last. But it was one of the few cases where there is a photo of the explosion. One of the ships firing on her, HMS Hood was lost in the same way less than 1 year later.

250 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 7:44:43am

re: #247 Sol Berdinowitz

Upding for Sharpe reference.

It’s actually a Casablanca reference, one that played off of Alouette’s Casablanca reference.

251 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 7:45:46am

re: #250 Dark_Falcon

It’s actually a Casablanca reference, one that played off of Alouette’s Casablanca reference.

I knew I had heard it somewhere else…

252 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 7:45:56am

re: #235 Mattand

I’m not shocked about Walmart. Most people who shop there don’t give a shit about their predatory pricing and treatment of workers.

One guy I know feels compelled to shop there because he thinks anywhere else would bankrupt him. People like Penn Jillette promote the jobs they supply, while ignoring the shitty wages and non-existent benefits.

Does not surprise me at all.

I don’t shop at Walmart but then I’m a total hypocrite because I do shop at Target and Meijer and wear clothes from Old Navy.

I don’t shop at JCP either but that’s just because I don’t like their customer service and their shitty products, in spite of their politically correct advertising.

253 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 7:46:10am

re: #249 Dark_Falcon

Boom:

Image: ship_bretagne4.jpg

Bretagne was not the first capital ship lost to a magazine explosion, not the last. But it was one of the few cases where there is a photo of the explosion. One of the ships firing on her, HMS Hood was lost in the same way less than 1 year later.

you link blew up in the water

254 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 7:48:21am

re: #253 Sol Berdinowitz

you link blew up in the water

Fixed, reload to see.

255 darthstar  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 7:50:39am

Mornin’ sunshine(rs).

256 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 7:52:24am

re: #254 Dark_Falcon

Fixed, reload to see.

still just an oil slick on the surface…

257 darthstar  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 7:54:05am

re: #256 Sol Berdinowitz

still just an oil slick on the surface…

It’s just a thumbnail picture of a boat with smoke coming out of it.

258 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 7:57:32am

What a freaking asshole.

259 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 7:58:16am

re: #257 darthstar

It’s just a thumbnail picture of a boat with smoke coming out of it.

Not just any boat, it’s the Bretagne!!!

260 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 7:59:41am

re: #258 Vicious Babushka

A new petition on White House website to create completely gun-free zone around president.

What a freaking asshole.

I think that Obama should go for that, and by logical extension, turn all America into a gun-free zone by CONFISCATING ALL OUR WEAPONS!!! HA HA HA!!!!!!

/

261 darthstar  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 8:00:07am

re: #252 Vicious Babushka

I don’t shop at Walmart but then I’m a total hypocrite because I do shop at Target and Meijer and wear clothes from Old Navy.

I don’t shop at JCP either but that’s just because I don’t like their customer service and their shitty products, in spite of their politically correct advertising.

I don’t shop. I used to…enjoyed it sometimes even. Now when I shop it’s purpose driven…I need a new pair of shoes, know the style I like, and enter the store with the express interest of finding a pair of 10.5s, getting to the register, and exiting within five minutes. I also have been known to throw my old shoes up on the counter with the price tag, then, when asked if I want a bag, say, “No, you can keep them.”

262 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 8:01:33am

re: #261 darthstar

I don’t shop. I used to…enjoyed it sometimes even. Now when I shop it’s purpose driven…I need a new pair of shoes, know the style I like, and enter the store with the express interest of finding a pair of 10.5s, getting to the register, and exiting within five minutes. I also have been known to throw my old shoes up on the counter with the price tag, then, when asked if I want a bag, say, “No, you can keep them.”

I like to shop at Amazon, but they treat their warehouse workers just as bad as Walmart.

263 dragonfire1981  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 8:01:44am

re: #258 Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

What a freaking asshole.

Come on now admit it Bryan, you started that petition didn’t you?

264 darthstar  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 8:10:05am

re: #258 Alouette

[Embedded content]

What a freaking asshole.

I think the FBI should freeze his assets and the Secret Service should investigate Bryan Fischer for promoting a petition to put the President’s life at risk. Including routine cavity searches of him and his entire family…until such time as another president is elected.

265 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 8:16:03am

re: #264 darthstar

I think the FBI should freeze his assets and the Secret Service should investigate Bryan Fischer for promoting a petition to put the President’s life at risk. Including routine cavity searches of him and his entire family…until such time as another president is elected.

That last is a bit harsh, don’t you think? I mean, think of the trauma that would be suffered by the Secret Service Agents who had to look up Bryan Fischer’s asshole. Moreover, I think that Fischer would secretly enjoy having them do that.

266 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 8:22:37am

*FACE PALM*

267 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 8:23:00am

I need to get going. BBT

268 SteveMcG  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 8:25:18am

re: #200 wheat-dogghazi

So, what was the song?

Oops, “A Christmas Song” by Shawn Phillips:

269 BongCrodny  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 8:32:07am

re: #239 dragonfire1981

So about this this stupid theory that Obama et al somehow killed the Reddit guy…

Let’s say Nancy Pelosi is found dead tomorrow. Would the RWNJs claim Obama and his thugs took her out too or would they label it an act of vengeance by a so-called “Patriotic” American?

It would be Obama, because Pelosi “knew too much.”

270 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 8:35:07am

re: #266 Vicious Babushka

*FACE PALM*

You know what hurts MIDDLE CLASS TAXPAYERS? Giving TAX REFUNDS to people who people who PAY NO TAXES

You mean companies like General Electric or Exxon-Mobil?

271 BongCrodny  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 8:45:54am

Morning all.

Little ditty from the boys from Quincy, Mass. in anticipation of the big Foot-The-Ball game this afternoon.

Dropkick Murphys - Rose Tattoo

272 Stan the Demanded Plan  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 8:55:30am
273 Interesting Times  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 8:59:01am

re: #272 Stanghazi

Pffft…the short guy would be able to see the game just fine if he pulled himself up his bootstraps.

274 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 8:59:51am

re: #272 Stanghazi

[Embedded content]

People are short because they are too lazy to grow…

275 Stan the Demanded Plan  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:01:44am

That’s really a precise graphic.

276 Lidane  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:20:47am

*sigh*

6 Arrested in New Rape of a Bus Passsenger in India

Police said Sunday they have arrested six suspects in another gang rape of a bus passenger in India, four weeks after a brutal attack on a student on a moving bus in the capital outraged Indians and led to calls for tougher rape laws.

Police officer Raj Jeet Singh said a 29-year-old woman was the only passenger on a bus as she was traveling to her village in northern Punjab state on Friday night. The driver refused to stop at her village despite her repeated pleas and drove her to a desolate location, he said.

There, the driver and the conductor took her to a building where they were joined by five friends and took turns raping her throughout the night, Singh said.

The driver dropped the woman off at her village early Saturday, he said.

And somehow, the victim will be blamed for what happened to her. Sickening.

277 allegro  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:23:29am

re: #276 Lidane

*sigh*

6 Arrested in New Rape of a Bus Passsenger in India

And somehow, the victim will be blamed for what happened to her. Sickening.

Of course she will. I mean, the slut was out alone at night. What did she expect?

so many ///

278 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:25:58am

re: #276 Lidane

*sigh*

6 Arrested in New Rape of a Bus Passsenger in India

And somehow, the victim will be blamed for what happened to her. Sickening.

by who?

The story about the young Pakistani girl last year brought nothing but outrage against the attackers to anyone I saw discussing it

279 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:26:13am

re: #277 allegro

Of course she will. I mean, the slut was out alone at night. What did she expect?

so many ///

The difference between India and America is only one of degree…women are not safe anywhere.

280 allegro  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:28:54am

This is a heart-warming development…

KKK: We’re Not a Hate Group

“Since Obama’s first term our numbers have doubled and now that we’re headed to a second term it’s going to triple, this is going to be the biggest resurgence of the Klan since 1915,” said one of the Klansmen interviewed.

The Klansman have been handing out flyers in a Mechanicsville neighborhood, and neighbors who received them have contacted CBS 6.

“We’re not trying to target anybody or scare anybody with hate, we’re just using our freedom of speech to drop fliers,” said one of the Klansmen interviewed. “Everyone thinks that we’re a hate group, we’re not a hate group, we don’t hate anyone, and we want to see good things come to our race.”

281 Mattand  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:31:08am

re: #278 sattv4u2

by who?

Defense lawyer in India rape case blames victim, says ‘respectable’ women in India are not raped: report

Misogyny is fairly endemic in Indian culture. You might want to follow the story a wee bit closer.

282 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:32:19am

re: #281 Mattand

Defense lawyer in India rape case blames victim, says ‘respectable’ women in India are not raped: report

Misogyny is fairly endemic in Indian culture. You might want to follow the story a wee bit closer.

I did

I assumed (perhaps incorrectly, perhaps not) that Lidane was referring to people here, or in the states

283 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:33:31am

re: #280 allegro

and neighbors who received them have contacted CBS 6.

Yes. The neighbors were SO thrilled at getting the fliers that they wanted to tell the world!!!

/

284 allegro  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:33:34am

re: #281 Mattand

Defense lawyer in India rape case blames victim, says ‘respectable’ women in India are not raped: report

Misogyny is fairly endemic in Indian culture. You might want to follow the story a wee bit closer.

Indeed. What a great argument. Respectable women don’t get raped so obviously any women who does get raped wasn’t respectable. Shades of Akin et al. As Sol said, it’s only a matter of degree.

285 Mattand  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:39:38am

re: #279 Sol Berdinowitz

The difference between India and America is only one of degree…women are not safe anywhere.

Yeah, this is unfortunately true.

I read Pharyngula fairly regularly, and Myers has been on a tear over misogyny and feminism for the last 18 months. The site can be tough with its “This is what I think, you’re a horrible fuckwit if you don’t agree” gestalt, but it’s really opened my eyes as to a lot of the inequity in society, ours in particular.

286 Lidane  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:39:58am

re: #282 sattv4u2

I did

I assumed (perhaps incorrectly, perhaps not) that Lidane was referring to people here, or in the states

Nonono. I was referring to the fact that there have been people in India blaming the first gang rape victim, and they’re going to blame this one too.

287 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:40:21am

re: #286 Lidane

Nonono. I was referring to the fact that there have been people in India blaming the first gang rape victim, and they’re going to blame this one too.

Thanks for the clarification

288 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:40:39am

re: #280 allegro

This is a heart-warming development…

KKK: We’re Not a Hate Group

Not a hate group? Yeah sure….. I mean they do have their right to free speech but it always amuses me to see bigots claim they’re not bigots.

289 Lidane  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:41:23am

re: #280 allegro

This is a heart-warming development…

KKK: We’re Not a Hate Group

I’m sure the Westboro Baptist freaks don’t consider themselves a hate group either.

Fuck the Klan and anyone who would join them.

290 Mattand  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:41:40am

re: #288 HappyWarrior

Not a hate group? Yeah sure….. I mean they do have their right to free speech but it always amuses me to see bigots claim they’re not bigots.

Long-standing members of the Oppressed Majority as well.

291 allegro  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:44:08am

re: #285 Mattand

Yeah, this is unfortunately true.

I read Pharyngula fairly regularly, and Myers has been on a tear over misogyny and feminism for the last 18 months. The site can be tough with its “This is what I think, you’re a horrible fuckwit if you don’t agree” gestalt, but it’s really opened my eyes as to a lot of the inequity in society, ours in particular.

The commenters at Pharyngula do not take prisoners, fer sher. That said, those who are dealt with most severely really are fuckwits who come to troll so they can whine about how mean and rude everyone is just because they “disagreed.” Their disagreements WRT misogyny are almost always MRA nonsense that really deserves the mockery.

292 Gus  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:45:37am

Hmm.

293 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:46:21am

re: #290 Mattand

Long-standing members of the Oppressed Majority as well.

Yeah it’s tough being a white bigot.

294 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:46:26am

re: #292 Gus

Hmm.

humming because you don’t know the words?
/

295 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:46:51am

re: #280 allegro

This is a heart-warming development…

KKK: We’re Not a Hate Group

““Everyone thinks that we’re a hate group, we’re not a hate group, we don’t hate anyone, and we want to see good things come to our race.”

Those “good things” seem to involve all other races being segregated or “sent back to where they come belong”

296 Gus  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:46:52am

re: #294 sattv4u2

humming because you don’t know the words?
/

Nah. I know the words but will keep them to myself. :O

297 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:47:17am

re: #296 Gus

Nah. I know the words but will keep them to myself. :O

Why start now!?!?!

298 Mattand  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:47:58am

re: #291 allegro

The commenters at Pharyngula do not take prisoners, fer sher. That said, those who are dealt with most severely really are fuckwits who come to troll so they can whine about how mean and rude everyone is just because they “disagreed.” Their disagreements WRT misogyny are almost always MRA nonsense that really deserves the mockery.

Yeah, this is true. Of course, I was once told to fuck off by a regular for actually agreeing with something PZ said. Rough, rough crowd.

I’m still amazed at the MRAs and creationists who still try to plead their case there. It’s like watching someone stick their hand in a meat grinder and then complain that they lost fingers.

299 Gus  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:48:19am

re: #297 sattv4u2

Why start now!?!?!

Woke up at 10 AM.

300 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:48:56am

Jackie Chan back in action, branding US more corrupt than China
[Link: www.scmp.com…]

I’m sure he said that before he made millions from his US productions!!!!

//

301 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:53:10am

ruh roh

equipment alarm just went off
hope it’s not something I need to use soon

BBIAB

302 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:04:46am

*peeks in*

Errr…. Go Falcons! :)

303 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:08:38am

re: #301 sattv4u2

ruh roh

equipment alarm just went off
hope it’s not something I need to use soon

BBIAB

Well

Guess who gets to climb into the hub of a 12 Meter satellite dish tomorrow to change out a gear drive?
hint,, it’s NOT you !!!

{sigh}

304 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:09:09am

re: #302 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All

*peeks in*

Errr…. Go Falcons! :)

(for Tony Gonzales’s sake)

305 allegro  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:11:33am

I’m looking forward to the Texans-Pats game this afternoon, though I’m not feeling real positive about the outcome. The Pats whipped the Texans like step-children a month ago - a repeat I do not want to see. Hoping the Texans show up to kick some ass today!

306 CuriousLurker  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:11:51am

re: #280 allegro

This is a heart-warming development…

KKK: We’re Not a Hate Group

Have you noticed that the worst haters are the ones who tend to make that claim about not hating anyone? Next they’ll be claiming that they’re human rights activists, like Geller.

307 jaunte  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:13:12am

re: #306 CuriousLurker

They’re just worried about endangered species:
[Link: tfninsider.org…]

308 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:14:46am

re: #305 allegro

I’m looking forward to the Texans-Pats game this afternoon, though I’m not feeling real positive about the outcome. The Pats whipped the Texans like step-children a month ago - a repeat I do not want to see. Hoping the Texans show up to kick some ass today!

As a life long (since their inception) Pats fan, I say BOO to you !!!!

(I do however hope it’s a good game)

309 CuriousLurker  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:15:12am

re: #307 jaunte

They’re just worried about endangered species:
[Link: tfninsider.org…]

Well there you go, see? They’re just do gooders trying to protect people.

310 allegro  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:16:33am

re: #308 sattv4u2

As a life long (since their inception) Pats fan, I say BOO to you !!!!

(I do however hope it’s a good game)

My New England relatives are on your side. Our Facebook pages erupt during these games (in a good natured way, of course). I, too, hope it’s a good game.

311 Political Atheist  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:20:43am

re: #303 sattv4u2

What is the weather like out there?

312 Political Atheist  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:24:00am

re: #307 jaunte

They found one that can spell.
///

313 b_sharp  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:25:03am

re: #311 Political Atheist

What is the weather like out there?

It’s prolly all weathery.

314 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:25:21am

re: #311 Political Atheist

What is the weather like out there?

About 68, partly cloudy

But I can’t do the repair today. What with the NFL and a few other high profile services I have to stay in the control room and i’m the only one here

I don’t need that dish today so it’s not critical

315 Gus  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:25:22am

…With this in mind, I was incredulous to read that my friend was being monstered on Twitter, to the extent that she had quit it, for supposedly picking on a minority – transsexuals. Though I imagine it to be something akin to being savaged by a dead sheep, as Denis Healey had it of Geoffrey Howe, I nevertheless felt indignant that a woman of such style and substance should be driven from her chosen mode of time-wasting by a bunch of dicks in chicks’ clothing

316 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:25:46am

re: #313 b_sharp

It’s prolly all weathery.

With a 100% chance of more to follow!

317 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:26:05am

re: #303 sattv4u2

Well

Guess who gets to climb into the hub of a 12 Meter satellite dish tomorrow to change out a gear drive?
hint,, it’s NOT you !!!

{sigh}

318 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:26:55am

re: #311 Political Atheist

What is the weather like out there?

15 miles of snowy uphills.

319 Gus  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:27:23am

re: #315 Gus

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More.

…To have your cock cut off and then plead special privileges as women – above natural-born women, who don’t know the meaning of suffering, apparently – is a bit like the old definition of chutzpah: the boy who killed his parents and then asked the jury for clemency on the grounds he was an orphan.

Shims, shemales, whatever you’re calling yourselves these days – don’t threaten or bully us lowly natural-born women, I warn you. We may not have as many lovely big swinging Phds as you, but we’ve experienced a lifetime of PMT and sexual harassment and many of us are now staring HRT and the menopause straight in the face – and still not flinching. Trust me, you ain’t seen nothing yet. You really won’t like us when we’re angry….

320 SteveMcG  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:27:43am

re: #318 Varek Raith

15 miles of snowy uphills.

Some guys have all the luck.

321 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:27:51am

re: #311 Political Atheist

re: #314 sattv4u2

About 68, partly cloudy

But I can’t do the repair today. What with the NFL and a few other high profile services I have to stay in the control room and i’m the only one here

I don’t need that dish today so it’s not critical

I get to do it tomorrow while it’s raining!!!

oh ,,, joy!

322 jaunte  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:28:55am

re: #321 sattv4u2

All that fresh air…

323 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:29:03am

re: #321 sattv4u2

re: #314 sattv4u2

I get to do it tomorrow while it’s raining!!!

oh ,,, joy!

So the gear that makes it move/align is broken?

324 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:35:06am

re: #323 Varek Raith

So the gear that makes it move/align is broken?

No. Depending on the type of dish that’s either one or two jacks (if two, one moves the azimuth of the dish ,, east to west and the other moves the elevation0

The gear I have to replace rotates the polarity controller (each sat channel is sent down either horizontal of vertical polarity, and that gear controls that motion0

325 Political Atheist  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:35:16am

re: #321 sattv4u2
Be safe out there.
You reminded me of this awful Charlie Sheen sci fi movie. The Arrival or maybe the really bad sequel… They had him and a girl sliding around on a radio astronomy dish as it slowly tipped over.

326 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:37:26am

re: #324 sattv4u2

No. Depending on the type of dish that’s either one or two jacks (if two, one moves the azimuth of the dish ,, east to west and the other moves the elevation0

The gear I have to replace rotates the polarity controller (each sat channel is sent down either horizontal of vertical polarity, and that gear controls that motion0

I actually understood that.
Neat.
:)
How high up is it?

327 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:37:58am

re: #325 Political Atheist

Be safe out there.
You reminded me of this awful Charlie Sheen sci fi movie. The Arrival or maybe the really bad sequel… They had him and a girl sliding around on a radio astronomy dish as it slowly tipped over.

It was the first one.
The sequel DOES NOT EXIST.
;)

328 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:38:44am

re: #325 Political Atheist

Be safe out there.
You reminded me of this awful Charlie Sheen sci fi movie. The Arrival or maybe the really bad sequel… They had him and a girl sliding around on a radio astronomy dish as it slowly tipped over.

Thanks
It’s not dangerous per se, it’s just very cramped, very dirty and very hot in there, even in the dead of winter. You have to contort yourself in all manner of shapes to get to what you have to work on

The only real danger would be if someone were to send RF to the dish while you’re in there so we make sure all the transmitters for that dish are turned off

329 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:41:18am

re: #327 Varek Raith

It was the first one.
The sequel DOES NOT EXIST.
;)

It’s a ground mounted dish (see my avatar) so the hub itself at the back where you have to crawl in is only about 15-20 feet off the ground

330 Stan the Demanded Plan  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:42:25am

Going to see Silver Linings Playbook in honor of the Eagles. Then will watch the Pats. See ya! (Go ATL)

331 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:42:48am

re: #329 sattv4u2

It’s a ground mounted dish (see my avatar) so the hub itself at the back where you have to crawl in is only about 15-20 feet off the ground

That’s 15-20 feet too high for me.
:P

332 b_sharp  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:43:01am

re: #315 Gus

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I read a couple of Birchill’s articles. She’s a hack and a Coulter wanna-be.

333 allegro  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:45:56am

I love these guys - the little desert mice that roar at the moon and are hell on scorpions.

334 b_sharp  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:46:07am

re: #324 sattv4u2

No. Depending on the type of dish that’s either one or two jacks (if two, one moves the azimuth of the dish ,, east to west and the other moves the elevation0

The gear I have to replace rotates the polarity controller (each sat channel is sent down either horizontal of vertical polarity, and that gear controls that motion0

Just tell the satellite to rotate 90 degrees.

335 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:46:22am

re: #325 Political Atheist

re: #331 Varek Raith

Instead of being outside on a nice day like today fixing it I sit in the control room (right photo)

Image: atlantateleport.jpg

336 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:47:04am

re: #334 b_sharp

Just tell the satellite to rotate 90 degrees.

“Mommy ,,, how come the Disney Channel is upside down today!?!?!?”

337 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:47:48am

re: #335 sattv4u2

re: #331 Varek Raith

Instead of being outside on a nice day like today fixing it I sit in the control room (right photo)

Image: atlantateleport.jpg

You ever get to climb those awesome towers???
/

338 wilburs  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:48:16am

re: #328 sattv4u2

Thanks
It’s not dangerous per se, it’s just very cramped, very dirty and very hot in there, even in the dead of winter. You have to contort yourself in all manner of shapes to get to what you have to work on

The only real danger would be if someone were to send RF to the dish while you’re in there so we make sure all the transmitters for that dish are turned off

Don’t

Maybe you would end up with superpowers

339 Political Atheist  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:48:22am

re: #336 sattv4u2

“Mommy ,,, how come the Disney Channel is upside down today!?!?!?”

So it can match Fox of course!

340 Gus  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:48:39am

re: #332 b_sharp

I read a couple of Birchill’s articles. She’s a hack and a Coulter wanna-be.

Some folks want it taken down. I’m not to sure about that. It’s good for people to know that this sort of thing is out there. It’s not an uncommon POV however awful it may be. Someone mentioned in the comments about not being surprised to read this from Burchill. Myself, I don’t read the Guardian and never will unless it’s pure news.

341 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:49:28am

re: #337 Varek Raith

You ever get to climb those awesome towers???
/

No. You have to be licensed for that

The tripod one is 350 feet

The thin one you see on the right is 1100 feet

342 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:50:13am

re: #339 Political Atheist

So it can match Fox of course!

Nahh

That would just show up on the right side of the screen then!!!

343 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:51:02am

re: #341 sattv4u2

No. You have to be licensed for that

The tripod one is 350 feet

The thin one you see on the right is 1100 feet

Darn.
I was hoping they made you put Christmas lights on it.
:P

344 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:51:34am
345 b_sharp  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:53:03am

re: #340 Gus

Some folks want it taken down. I’m not to sure about that. It’s good for people to know that this sort of thing is out there. It’s not an uncommon POV however awful it may be. Someone mentioned in the comments about not being surprised to read this from Burchill. Myself, I don’t read the Guardian and never will unless it’s pure news.

The Guardian just needs to condemn the article. Leaving it up is probably a good idea, just to show the readers what an overabundance of bigotry looks like.

346 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:53:42am

re: #344 Varek Raith

Gun Dude: Sorry! Can I Have My Gun Back?

How ‘bout ,, umm,,, NO

347 Gus  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:53:58am

re: #345 b_sharp

The Guardian just needs to condemn the article. Leaving it up is probably a good idea, just to show the readers what an overabundance of bigotry looks like.

There’s a rebuttal up: Julie Burchill has ended up bullying the trans community

348 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:54:33am

re: #346 sattv4u2

How ‘bout ,, umm,,, NO

Put his gun on top of that tower!

349 b_sharp  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:54:47am

re: #341 sattv4u2

No. You have to be licensed for that

The tripod one is 350 feet

The thin one you see on the right is 1100 feet

Climb the thin one once a day just for exercise.

350 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:55:58am

re: #349 b_sharp

Climb the thin one once a day just for exercise.

1100 feet

It would take me a month

Hell, at my age, I don’t even like to DRIVE 1100 feet anymore!!!

351 Political Atheist  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:56:09am

re: #341 sattv4u2

1100 feet? That would be pretty cool to look out from the top. I’d love to get up on one of those with my camera. But then I’ve been trying to get permission to take a panorama of LA at night from a high rise helipad downtown. No luck so far.

352 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:57:23am

re: #351 Political Atheist

1100 feet? That would be pretty cool to look out from the top. I’d love to get up on one of those with my camera. But then I’ve been trying to get permission to take a panorama of LA at night from a high rise helipad downtown. No luck so far.

You just missed your chance

A crew was here last week installing some new cell antennas on that one. i’m sure they would have taken your camera up with them

353 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:57:29am

Saw Mike Rowe climb up a transmission tower.
Scary shit.

354 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:57:59am

re: #353 Varek Raith

Saw Mike Rowe climb up a transmission tower.
Scary shit.

The guys that do it are a different breed

355 CuriousLurker  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:58:01am

Evolution at work:

Proven: Pruney Fingers Give You a Better Grip

Standing in the shower or sitting in the tub, many of us have looked at our wrinkled fingertips and had occasion to wonder: Why do they get so pruney when wet?

Over the years, people have pointed to a number of explanations, most commonly the idea that the wrinkles are simply a reflection of the skin absorbing water. Now, according to a study published yesterday in the journal Biology Letters by researchers from Newcastle University in the UK, we have a definitive (and more interesting) explanation: Pruney fingers are better at gripping wet objects. […]

356 Gus  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:58:31am

re: #353 Varek Raith

Saw Mike Rowe climb up a transmission tower.
Scary shit.

Free climb the 1K tower while doing one handed chin-ups with just your fingers. Camera pointing down! Bwahahaha!

357 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 10:59:16am

re: #356 Gus

Free climb the 1K tower while doing one handed chin-ups with just your fingers. Camera pointing down! Bwahahaha!

Nutter.

358 CuriousLurker  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:00:14am

re: #351 Political Atheist

1100 feet? That would be pretty cool to look out from the top. I’d love to get up on one of those with my camera.

NOT! Gah, I’m turning green around the gills just thinking about it.

359 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:00:40am

re: #353 Varek Raith

Saw Mike Rowe climb up a transmission tower.
Scary shit.

All to fix a small leak in a line.
10 minute fix.
Hours up and down.
No thanks!

360 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:01:21am

re: #351 Political Atheist

re: #358 CuriousLurker

NOT! Gah, I’m turning green around the gills just thinking about it.

Image: top-of-the-empire-state-building.jpg

361 Gus  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:01:26am

re: #358 CuriousLurker

NOT! Gah, I’m turning green around the gills just thinking about it.

I find some of that stuff hard to watch but watch it anyway. Some folks will climb larger towers and to chin-up and back flips. Crazy stuff. I have to look away sometimes.

362 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:02:11am

re: #360 sattv4u2

re: #358 CuriousLurker

Image: top-of-the-empire-state-building.jpg

That’s fine.
It’s the survivable fall heights that scare me.

363 CuriousLurker  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:02:16am

re: #360 sattv4u2

re: #358 CuriousLurker

Image: top-of-the-empire-state-building.jpg

Dammit, I knew I shouldn’t have clicked!

364 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:02:41am

re: #359 Varek Raith

All to fix a small leak in a line.
10 minute fix.
Hours up and down.
No thanks!

Cheaper and faster than building a new tower as a replacement!!

365 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:03:06am

re: #363 CuriousLurker

Dammit, I knew I shouldn’t have clicked!

Image: foggy_dubai_from_burj_dubai.jpg

366 b_sharp  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:03:28am

re: #347 Gus

There’s a rebuttal up: Julie Burchill has ended up bullying the trans community

A very well written, non-combative and pointed rebuttal. The Guardian should put a link to it on the original article.

367 CuriousLurker  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:03:57am

re: #361 Gus

I find some of that stuff hard to watch but watch it anyway. Some folks will climb larger towers and to chin-up and back flips. Crazy stuff. I have to look away sometimes.

I have to look away a LOT. It gives me vertigo, big time. I can’t even stand on a chair to change a light bulb without getting dizzy.

368 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:04:32am

re: #365 Varek Raith

Image: foggy_dubai_from_burj_dubai.jpg

Is that where Hans Solo boffed the princess??

369 CuriousLurker  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:05:19am

re: #365 Varek Raith

Image: foggy_dubai_from_burj_dubai.jpg

Uh-uh, no way, not gonna click. I know what that probably is—that damned helipad/golf course thing. I was just thinking about it… O_o

370 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:05:46am

re: #367 CuriousLurker

I have to look away a LOT. It gives me vertigo, big time. I can’t even stand on a chair to change a light bulb without getting dizzy.

The video of buildings swaying in Tokyo during the 2011 quake gave me vertigo so bad I had to lay down.

371 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:06:02am

re: #368 sattv4u2

Is that where Hans Solo boffed the princess??

He wished.

372 Gus  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:06:19am

re: #367 CuriousLurker

I have to look away a LOT. It gives me vertigo, big time. I can’t even stand on a chair to change a light bulb without getting dizzy.

It’s weird but I have a different reaction towards mountain climbing. Something about towers, bridges, and leaning over buildings.

373 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:06:34am

re: #370 Varek Raith

The video of buildings swaying in Tokyo during the 2011 quake gave me vertigo so bad I had to lay down.

Why didn’t you just , oh, I dunno,, NOT WATCH!!!

//

374 CuriousLurker  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:07:20am

re: #372 Gus

It’s weird but I have a different reaction towards mountain climbing. Something about towers, bridges, and leaning over buildings.

Or cliffs. People standing on the edge of cliffs. *shudder*

375 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:07:20am

re: #373 sattv4u2

Why didn’t you just , oh, I dunno,, NOT WATCH!!!

//

Because that was the first time I ever saw buildings sway like that.
Completely unexpected to me.

376 Gus  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:07:50am
377 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:08:20am

Vertigo warning.
*Shudders*

378 CuriousLurker  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:09:13am

re: #376 Gus

re: #377 Varek Raith

That does it. I’m going upstairs. *runs for exit*

379 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:09:18am
380 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:10:32am

re: #378 CuriousLurker

re: #377 Varek Raith

That does it. I’m going upstairs. *runs for exit*

I won’t play the one that has a big building swaying while making a scary metal crunching sound.

381 Gus  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:10:37am

DO NOT CLICK!

Image: girder.jpg

382 b_sharp  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:10:59am

re: #360 sattv4u2

re: #358 CuriousLurker

Image: top-of-the-empire-state-building.jpg

That photo needs a caption.

383 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:11:18am

re: #381 Gus

DO NOT CLICK!

Image: girder.jpg

“Pardon me, but could you pass the Grey Poupon!”

384 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:11:38am

re: #382 b_sharp

That photo needs a caption.

How many crazy people does it take to screw in a light bulb?

385 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:11:44am

re: #382 b_sharp

That photo needs a caption.

“I thought YOU brought the tools”

386 Gus  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:11:53am

re: #383 sattv4u2

“Pardon me, but could you pass the Grey Poupon!”

Coming right up…

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387 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:12:25am

re: #385 sattv4u2

“I thought YOU brought the tools”

WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE HAVE THE WRONG BUILDING?!

388 allegro  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:12:27am

re: #374 CuriousLurker

Or cliffs. People standing on the edge of cliffs. *shudder*

A friend and I went to the Grand Canyon to disperse the ashes of a dear friend who made that request. We chose to do it at dawn when the canyon is alive with color and grandeur. The problem was that as we approached the edge of the cliff to release his ashes in the wind, neither of us could do it. We both freaked, getting dizzy and weak the closer we inched towards the edge. We finally emptied the box of ashes on the ground as close as we could muster ourselves to get to the edge and let the wind take it from there.

Always felt kinda bad about that.

389 b_sharp  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:13:16am

re: #367 CuriousLurker

I have to look away a LOT. It gives me vertigo, big time. I can’t even stand on a chair to change a light bulb without getting dizzy.

Not even if hubby is there to catch you? Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

390 Political Atheist  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:13:44am

re: #358 CuriousLurker

If I trust the gear, like being locked in with a good harness or on a steady platform I’m fine. Lots of adrenaline so a little shaky though. But-Put me on a wobbly ladder or second story scaffold and suddenly I’m in bad shape.

391 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:13:46am

re: #388 allegro

A friend and I went to the Grand Canyon to disperse the ashes of a dear friend who made that request. We chose to do it at dawn when the canyon is alive with color and grandeur. The problem was that as we approached the edge of the cliff to release his ashes in the wind, neither of us could do it. We both freaked, getting dizzy and weak the closer we inched towards the edge. We finally emptied the box of ashes on the ground as close as we could muster ourselves to get to the edge and let the wind take it from there.

Always felt kinda bad about that.

I’d like to think your friend was laughing at you two.
:)

392 Gus  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:14:27am

Steps slowly away from the edge. BOO!

393 CuriousLurker  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:14:59am

re: #389 b_sharp

Not even if hubby is there to catch you? Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

NO.

394 Gus  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:15:45am

re: #393 CuriousLurker

NO.

5 safety lines, jet pack and parachute?

395 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:16:53am

re: #394 Gus

5 safety lines, jet pack and parachute?

What does their sex life have to do with it?

396 b_sharp  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:16:53am

re: #377 Varek Raith

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Vertigo warning.
*Shudders*

Nope, no vertigo.

I would hate to be in a building like that though.

397 CuriousLurker  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:17:23am

re: #388 allegro

A friend and I went to the Grand Canyon to disperse the ashes of a dear friend who made that request. We chose to do it at dawn when the canyon is alive with color and grandeur. The problem was that as we approached the edge of the cliff to release his ashes in the wind, neither of us could do it. We both freaked, getting dizzy and weak the closer we inched towards the edge. We finally emptied the box of ashes on the ground as close as we could muster ourselves to get to the edge and let the wind take it from there.

Always felt kinda bad about that.

I would’ve totally done the same. The only way I’d even be able to get within 50 yards of the edge was if I slithered along on my belly. No way would I even attempt it standing upright.

398 allegro  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:17:42am

re: #391 Varek Raith

I’d like to think your friend was laughing at you two.
:)

Funny, that’s what we said at the time! He would have teased us without mercy.

399 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:17:52am

re: #396 b_sharp

Nope, no vertigo.

I would hate to be in a building like that though.

My brain completely went haywire when I first saw that.
It was weird as hell.

400 CuriousLurker  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:18:38am

re: #394 Gus

5 safety lines, jet pack and parachute?

Well, maybe… but only if you include an air mattress thing. Not sure all that would fit in the kitchen though. LOL

401 b_sharp  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:19:15am

re: #388 allegro

A friend and I went to the Grand Canyon to disperse the ashes of a dear friend who made that request. We chose to do it at dawn when the canyon is alive with color and grandeur. The problem was that as we approached the edge of the cliff to release his ashes in the wind, neither of us could do it. We both freaked, getting dizzy and weak the closer we inched towards the edge. We finally emptied the box of ashes on the ground as close as we could muster ourselves to get to the edge and let the wind take it from there.

Always felt kinda bad about that.

Plastic open bag thrown over the edge.

402 CuriousLurker  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:20:48am

re: #390 Political Atheist

If I trust the gear, like being locked in with a good harness or on a steady platform I’m fine. Lots of adrenaline so a little shaky though. But-Put me on a wobbly ladder or second story scaffold and suddenly I’m in bad shape.

About the only way I’d do it was if I was forced at gunpoint.

403 allegro  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:21:34am

re: #402 CuriousLurker

About the only way I’d do it was if I was forced at gunpoint.

I’d just say “shoot me now, I’m NOT going there.”

404 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:21:55am

re: #402 CuriousLurker

About the only way I’d do it was if I was forced at gunpoint.

I wouldn’t budge.
XD

405 b_sharp  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:22:04am

re: #399 Varek Raith

My brain completely went haywire when I first saw that.
It was weird as hell.

I don’t like heights but I’ve only gotten vertigo once, and while I remember the feeling I don’t remember where I felt it. Strange.

406 SteveMcG  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:22:56am

re: #388 allegro

Next time somebody dies and wants you to do that, I would suggest putting a firecracker inside a paper bag, light the fuse and throw it. The firecracker should break the bag open while it is falling, and since the contents are already ashes, well, I guess no harm done.

407 allegro  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:23:08am

Glass elevators were invented by fucking sadists. That is all.

408 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:23:36am

re: #405 b_sharp

I don’t like heights but I’ve only gotten vertigo once, and while I remember the feeling I don’t remember where I felt it. Strange.

What triggered it for me was the fact that they were swaying so damn much.
I thought it looked so wrong. Very wrong.
It was odd.

409 allegro  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:23:50am

re: #406 SteveMcG

Next time somebody dies and wants you to do that, I would suggest putting a firecracker inside a paper bag, light the fuse and throw it. The firecracker should break the bag open while it is falling, and since the contents are already ashes, well, I guess no harm done.

An M-80 in there would put on quite a show. Heh.

410 Gus  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:24:25am

re: #407 allegro

Glass elevators were invented by fucking sadists. That is all.

You ever see that prank video where they modify the elevator floor with a glass floor and place opaque panels underneath which are then released with unsuspecting people in the elevator?

411 CuriousLurker  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:25:11am

re: #407 allegro

Glass elevators were invented by fucking sadists. That is all.

Oh gosh, QFT! I hate them. Usually try to face the panel with the buttons to avoid seeing out, but that usually doesn’t work so I have to just squeeze my eyes shut.

412 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:25:13am

re: #410 Gus

You ever see that prank video where they modify the elevator floor with a glass floor and place opaque panels underneath which are then released with unsuspecting people in the elevator?

0_o

413 Gus  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:25:29am
414 b_sharp  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:26:11am

re: #408 Varek Raith

What triggered it for me was the fact that they were swaying so damn much.
I thought it looked so wrong. Very wrong.
It was odd.

Your eyes were giving you information your brain just didn’t like.

Walking in on your parents having sex is kind of like that.

415 allegro  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:26:17am

re: #410 Gus

You ever see that prank video where they modify the elevator floor with a glass floor and place opaque panels underneath which are then released with unsuspecting people in the elevator?

Oh jeez. Then watch the lawsuits that result from the strokes and heart attacks.

416 Gus  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:26:19am
417 Gus  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:26:37am

re: #415 allegro

Oh jeez. Then watch the lawsuits that result from the strokes and heart attacks.

Yeah. I was thinking about that while watching.

418 allegro  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:26:44am

re: #413 Gus

LG’s Terrifying Elevator Prank

Will. not. watch.

419 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:26:59am
420 CuriousLurker  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:27:31am

re: #410 Gus

You ever see that prank video where they modify the elevator floor with a glass floor and place opaque panels underneath which are then released with unsuspecting people in the elevator?

Oh, that is messed up.

When I went to Toronto I wanted to go in the CN Tower—until I realized it had a glass floor. Nixed that idea real quick.

421 Gus  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:28:28am

re: #420 CuriousLurker

Oh, that is messed up.

When I went to Toronto I wanted to go in the CN Tower—until I realized it had a glass floor. Nixed that idea real quick.

Oh yeah. That’s rather unnerving. What about flying?

422 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:28:32am

re: #407 allegro

Glass elevators were invented by fucking sadists. That is all.

What does my sex life have to do with it?!?!

/

423 CuriousLurker  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:32:34am

re: #421 Gus

Oh yeah. That’s rather unnerving. What about flying?

CL <— white-knuckles all the way. Take off & landing is the worst.

The views are beautiful, but I can never stop thinking that I’m hurtling through the sky in a metal tube at 30K feet at God-knows-how-many-MPH, and… *gulp*

424 Varek Raith  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:33:08am

re: #423 CuriousLurker

CL <— white-knuckles all the way. Take off & landing is the worst.

The views are beautiful, but I can never stop thinking that I’m hurtling through the sky in a metal tube 30K feet at God-knows-how-many-MPH, and… *gulp*

530ish.

425 SteveMcG  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:34:36am

re: #423 CuriousLurker

CL <— white-knuckles all the way. Take off & landing is the worst.

The views are beautiful, but I can never stop thinking that I’m hurtling through the sky in a metal tube 30K feet at God-knows-how-many-MPH, and… *gulp*

I happen to love turbulence. And taking off is awesome, especially when the pilot adjusts the throttle and the plane either sinks (It doesn’t really sink, it just feel like it does) or you get pushed down in your seat.

426 CuriousLurker  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:34:40am

re: #421 Gus

There’s a skyscraper that has windows that jut out like balconies from the side of it that have glass floors also. I think it’s in Chicago (not gonna google it—too scary).

427 SteveMcG  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:35:16am

re: #424 Varek Raith

530ish.

Don’t forget the -40 outside temperature.

428 CuriousLurker  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:35:27am

re: #425 SteveMcG

I happen to love turbulence. And taking off is awesome, especially when the pilot adjusts the throttle and the plane either sinks (It doesn’t really sink, it just feel like it does) or you get pushed down in your seat.

You’re NUTS! O_o

429 Gus  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:35:33am

re: #426 CuriousLurker

There’s a skyscraper that has windows that jut out like balconies from the side of it that have glass floors also. I think it’s in Chicago (not gonna google it—too scary).

Yep. Sear tower? There’s an old library in NYC with glass floors but those are opaque. I think it’s the Pratt?

430 SteveMcG  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:36:01am

re: #428 CuriousLurker

You’re NUTS! O_o

WHEEE!

431 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:37:06am

re: #424 Varek Raith

re: #427 SteveMcG

Don’t forget the -40 outside temperature.

That only matters if you don’t pay for a good seat

Image: twilight-zone.jpg

432 Gus  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:37:07am

re: #430 SteveMcG

WHEEE!

Glass enclosed airliners!

433 CuriousLurker  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:37:24am

re: #429 Gus

Yep. Sear tower? There’s an old library in NYC with glass floors but those are opaque. I think it’s the Pratt?

Could be the Sears tower—it’s a famous building, I know that much. Hadn’t heard about the one in NYC.

434 Gus  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:38:57am

Opaquing glass floor in the toilet compartment. Pilot flips the switch at random passengers.

435 CuriousLurker  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:39:00am

re: #432 Gus

Glass enclosed airliners!

Perish the thought! I’ve always wished I had the nerve to take a helicopter tour of NYC, but it just ain’t gonna happen.

436 Gus  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:40:30am

re: #433 CuriousLurker

Could be the Sears tower—it’s a famous building, I know that much. Hadn’t heard about the one in NYC.

Hmm, it’s called the Willis Tower now. Still referred to as the Sears Tower. The deck is at skydeck dot com.

437 b_sharp  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:48:41am

re: #424 Varek Raith

530ish.

It doesn’t really matter, when the plane falls out of the sky it will be doing more than that.

438 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:50:14am

re: #437 b_sharp

It doesn’t really matter, when the plane falls out of the sky it will be doing more than that.

Except for the sudden stop!

439 Gus  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:53:01am

re: #437 b_sharp

It doesn’t really matter, when the plane falls out of the sky it will be doing more than that.

Preferably inverted. Other options include a violent flat spin or a cork screw. Those are fun but we have not witnesses to describe the decent. //

440 wilburs  Sun, Jan 13, 2013 11:55:10am

re: #355 CuriousLurker

Evolution at work:

I heard this on a Science Friday podcast last month

They were encouraging people to do their own research as to why it happens


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