The media are still pretending that the west coast is 3 hours behind the east coast. Shhh. We’re not supposed to know this yet…
RT @ap_sports: Armstrong tells Oprah he took banned substances, including EPO, for all 7 Tour de France victories: apne.ws/U50Ut4
— The Associated Press (@AP) January 18, 2013
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bratwurst Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:19:10pm |
Lance Armstrong: “I’m a liar and a bully.” Oprah: “With that résumé, you could be the next Republican nominee for President” #LiveWrong— The Daily Edge (@TheDailyEdge) January 18, 2013
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Gus Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:24:29pm |
THIS is your brain on drugs twitter.com/TomCBallard/st…— Tom Ballard (@TomCBallard) January 18, 2013
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The Ghost of a Flea Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:24:52pm |
Centuries from now, archaeologists are going to use the fragmentary remains of our TV culture to ascertain that Oprah is the USAian Pope, and the last resort for penitent sinners.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:26:36pm |
re: #4 The Ghost of a Flea
When it’s really that anytime some celebrity fucked up, they think to themselves “what TV host has the dumbest audience of easily duped dittoheads that I can convince I’m not a piece of fucking shit.”
Oprah every time.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:26:41pm |
All cancer patients should be given a cocktail of whatever it was that Lance Armstrong has been ingesting.
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jaunte Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:27:12pm |
So Lance Armstrong cheated and lied to win a bunch of races— it’s not like he suggested raising marginal taxes on the rich by 4.6%!
— Top Conservative Cat (@TeaPartyCat) January 18, 2013
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:27:39pm |
Lance Armstrong was inspired by that South Park episode about the Jesus bracelets, which was really about Lance Armstrong.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:29:42pm |
The French cycling authorities were right about Lance - they knew he was just like all the French cyclists.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 18, 2013
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Pawn of the Oppressor Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:29:55pm |
Behold OPRAH, Christess of Broadcastia! Bestower of Gifts, Forgiver of Sins, Queen Emotress of our Nation! Kneel and Love Her! LET HER THINK AND FEEL FOR YOU!
Bits and pieces I’ve seen about the Armstrong saga seem to indicate that Lance is basically a big jerky Douchebag McJerkerson jerk-type guy. Not even Oprah can save him, IMO.
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The Ghost of a Flea Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:31:07pm |
re: #6 Ghost of Tom Joad
When it’s really that anytime some celebrity fucked up, they think to themselves “what TV host has the dumbest audience of easily duped dittoheads that I can convince I’m not a piece of fucking shit.”
Oprah every time.
Talk show hosts on FOX News exist, but otherwise your point is taken.
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EPR-radar Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:31:43pm |
This would pretty much be a non issue for me, except for that nasty business of ruining anyone that told the truth about Lance Armstrong.
As it is, he has demonstrated sterling moral qualifications for running for public office on the Republican ticket.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:31:59pm |
re: #13 The Ghost of a Flea
Talk show hosts on FOX News exist, but otherwise your point is taken.
Heh, I think FOX is the exact opposite. When somebody wants to prove they’re a dirty piece of shit, they go on FOX.
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dragonath Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:32:38pm |
It was really funny hearing Oprah prevaricating on what she thought about Lance this morning.
On another note, I wonder how many years it’s gonna take before the magazine Outside puts a cyclist on the cover again. They were one of the biggest supporters of Armstrong.
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Robert O. Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:33:34pm |
I watched the whole thing. The only thing new appears to be Lance admitting what he has done. All the facts were already common knowledge. I do wonder that given the perjury, witness tempering (the most serious charges), what are the odds he will be facing prison?
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kirkspencer Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:33:39pm |
I got pointed to this by another website (Skippy’s site).
In simple: The USPS sponsored Lance’s team (actually Thomas Weisel’s team) to the tune of $40 million, contingent among other things on being drug-free. So are we going to see action to get that money returned?
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EPR-radar Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:33:45pm |
These douchebags have their specialized talents:
Armstrong is the go-to guy for beating drug testing.
Romney is the go-to guy for implementing dodgy tax evasion schemes.
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SpaceJesus Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:36:55pm |
re: #18 Robert O.
I can only imagine the forces that are mobilizing against Lance right now
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:37:47pm |
re: #19 kirkspencer
I got pointed to this by another website (Skippy’s site).
In simple: The USPS sponsored Lance’s team (actually Thomas Weisel’s team) to the tune of $40 million, contingent among other things on being drug-free. So are we going to see action to get that money returned?
Oh, I imagine they will, though they’ll have to get in line. More than a few people are gonna want a piece of his hide before this is all over. I imagine first on the list will the long list of people, including former teammates and friends, he’s sued to keep his secret.
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Varek Raith Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:38:21pm |
They’re all cheaters as far as I’m concerned.
/Bitter
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dragonath Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:39:48pm |
Clearly, the solution to this problem is to give everybody steroids.
/
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kirkspencer Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:39:49pm |
re: #23 Targetpractice
Oh, I imagine they will, though they’ll have to get in line. More than a few people are gonna want a piece of his hide before this is all over. I imagine first on the list will the long list of people, including former teammates and friends, he’s sued to keep his secret.
a. government tends to get in front of the line.
b. forgot to mention, there’s also the possibility of criminal fraud charges for several people involved. Paraphrase: “Oh, we’re not doing drugs, and we’re conducting strict measures to ensure that is true…”
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Gus Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:40:03pm |
So how many millions did Oprah make off this and what was Lance’s cut?
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Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:40:20pm |
re: #25 dragonath
Clearly, the solution to this problem is to give everybody steroids.
/
If you outlaw steroids, only outlaws will have shriveled balls./
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jaunte Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:40:39pm |
I don’t have OWN.Did Curtis Armstrong admit to doping on the set of REVENGE OF THE NERDS?
— Patton Oswalt (@pattonoswalt) January 18, 2013
[Link: www.imdb.com…]
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TedStriker Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:41:25pm |
re: #22 SpaceJesus
I can only imagine the forces that are mobilizing against Lance right now
Foremost among them, the federal government for Lance and his teams defrauding taxpayers via the USPS’ sponsorship of said teams.
Uncle Sam has a long memory and an even longer reach.
Don’t fuck with the Feds…
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TedStriker Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:42:33pm |
re: #29 jaunte
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[Link: www.imdb.com…]
Get it right, Patton…it was on the set of One Crazy Summer!
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:42:38pm |
re: #26 kirkspencer
a. government tends to get in front of the line.
b. forgot to mention, there’s also the possibility of criminal fraud charges for several people involved. Paraphrase: “Oh, we’re not doing drugs, and we’re conducting strict measures to ensure that is true…”
Ayep, assuming Lance avoids prison time, he can say goodbye to his fortune. No wonder he’s so eager to see the ban done away with, he’s gotta make some money to fight all the lawsuits headed his way.
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TedStriker Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:43:41pm |
re: #32 Targetpractice
Ayep, assuming Lance avoids prison time, he can say goodbye to his fortune. No wonder he’s so eager to see the ban done away with, he’s gotta make some money to fight all the lawsuits headed his way.
Is it wrong for me to hope that Lance spends the rest of his life alone and broke after all of this shit?
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:45:10pm |
re: #33 TedStriker
Is it wrong for me to hope that Lance spends the rest of his life alone and broke after all of this shit?
Not in my opinion, but that’s because I tend to be a vindictive bastard. Nothing would please me more after all this than for the ban not only to remain, but for him to avoid prison time just to spend the rest of his life working deadbeat jobs in obscurity to pay back all the people’s he’s stepped on.
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dragonath Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:45:56pm |
Wonder what Lance’s first wife thinks of all this.
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TedStriker Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:45:57pm |
re: #34 Targetpractice
Not in my opinion, but that’s because I tend to be a vindictive bastard. Nothing would please me more after all this than for the ban not only to remain, but for him to avoid prison time just to spend the rest of his life working deadbeat jobs in obscurity to pay back all the people’s he’s stepped on.
Not wishing this on him, but I don’t think his ego will let him do that; I think he’ll eat a bullet before that happens.
The man threw away honesty and integrity for the shot(s) at the yellow jersey for nothing, in the end.
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EPR-radar Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:46:35pm |
re: #33 TedStriker
It is so rare for an evil person to visibly get a serving of well-earned justice that I view it as festival time when it occurs.
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EPR-radar Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:49:12pm |
re: #36 TedStriker
Hell, he would probably still have all of the TdF titles if he hadn’t made mortal enemies of a bunch of people by suing them. He knew how to beat the tests, and he should have done nothing other than that if he wanted to be competent about his doping. But no, he had to win everywhere, in the courts and in the court of public opinion, and that was too much to ask for.
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dragonath Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:50:17pm |
re: #37 EPR-radar
It is so rare for an evil person to visibly get a serving of well-earned justice that I view it as festival time when it occurs.
The Red Hour! Festival! Festival!
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Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:50:34pm |
[Link: www.rice.edu…]
This is what he was taking. Scary shit.
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Dadaist Thu, Jan 17, 2013 7:51:34pm |
re: #11 Charles Johnson
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In moral terms, yes, mostly. Although there were some cyclists, both French and American, who refused to dope. Christophe Bassons might be the most famous that we know of.
But it’s worth saying that French cycling had its doping disaster with the 1998 Festina affair. And as a result, got a bit cleaner at least for a while. Not because the peloton suddenly developed a new ethical outlook, just because the risk-reward calculations changed. Particularly when French cyclists started getting worried about criminal charges.
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Lidane Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:03:48pm |
Since we’re talking about sports, this should go over well:
Tiger Woods Re-Proposes to Ex-Wife Elin Nordegren with $200 Million Prenup Because OH, SURE, WHY NOT
What could possibly go wrong?
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:04:38pm |
re: #43 Lidane
Since we’re talking about sports, this should go over well:
Tiger Woods Re-Proposes to Ex-Wife Elin Nordegren with $200 Million Prenup Because OH, SURE, WHY NOT
What could possibly go wrong?
Most expensive grovel in history?
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jaunte Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:08:40pm |
re: #40 Ghost of Tom Joad
Additional dangers of EPO include sudden death during sleep, which has killed approximately 18 pro cyclists in the past fifteen years, and the development of antibodies directed against EPO. In this later circumstance the individual develops anemia as a result of the body’s reaction against repeated EPO injections.
Fun stuff.
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:09:07pm |
re: #43 Lidane
Since we’re talking about sports, this should go over well:
Tiger Woods Re-Proposes to Ex-Wife Elin Nordegren with $200 Million Prenup Because OH, SURE, WHY NOT
What could possibly go wrong?
“Daddy, why are you so afraid of Mommy?”
“Daddy’s not afraid of Mommy, he’s afraid of Mommy’s lawyer.”
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EPR-radar Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:10:15pm |
re: #46 Targetpractice
“Daddy, why are you so afraid of Mommy?”
“Daddy’s not afraid of Mommy, he’s afraid of Mommy’s lawyer.”
Or “Daddy’s afraid of Mommy’s private investigators.”
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freetoken Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:11:09pm |
re: #42 Kragar
The war on Drugs is over.
The Drugs won.
Humans have been playing with pharmacology since, well, far back. All sorts of substances have been tried for this or that, often just for fun.
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jaunte Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:12:48pm |
“If bleeding from the eyes persists for longer than four hours, contact a physician.”
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EPR-radar Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:12:53pm |
re: #42 Kragar
A pedant, like me, is compelled to point out that the War on Drugs has never had anything to do with illegal drugs being abused by rich, white people.
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:17:33pm |
Meanwhile, NBC is having an expose on Scientology on Rock Center.
Hopefully, that will get a ball rolling on investigations.
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dragonath Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:17:39pm |
I just found out there’s a German fuel company named Nukem GmbH. All they have to do now is merge with Duke Energy.
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Lidane Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:19:21pm |
re: #52 dragonath
I just found out there’s a German fuel company named Nukem GmbH. All they have to do now is merge with Duke Energy.
As long as they don’t rip Bruce Campbell off for their catchphrases, I’m good with that.
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EPR-radar Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:19:56pm |
re: #52 dragonath
My personal favorite firm name is “Render Vanderslice and Associates”. Apparently, they do market research.
They should have been head count reduction consultants instead.
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:20:09pm |
re: #53 Lidane
As long as they don’t rip Bruce Campbell off for their catchphrases, I’m good with that.
Hire him as the spokesman.
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Lidane Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:21:26pm |
re: #54 EPR-radar
My personal favorite firm name is “Render Vanderslice and Associates”. Apparently, they do market research.
They should have been head count reduction consultants instead.
Recruiting and consulting firm, that way they could have business cards calling all their employees Professional Headhunters.
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Lidane Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:21:52pm |
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:23:13pm |
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Stanghazi Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:27:36pm |
re: #18 Robert O.
I watched the whole thing. The only thing new appears to be Lance admitting what he has done. All the facts were already common knowledge. I do wonder that given the perjury, witness tempering (the most serious charges), what are the odds he will be facing prison?
Hopefully he will be sued by those he sued and thrashed who were telling the truth.
Bully liar.
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EPR-radar Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:28:54pm |
OT, but funny typo seen on a RW web site:
“Demonetization of Obama…”
Looks like they have defunding on the brain.
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:33:49pm |
re: #51 ProBosniaLiberal
The stuff they did requires a crackdown magnitudes greater than the Branch Davidians at Waco.
Not only that, but the way they got Tax Exempt status was hinky, at best.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:37:27pm |
re: #61 ProBosniaLiberal
The stuff they did requires a crackdown magnitudes greater than the Branch Davidians at Waco.
Not only that, but the way they got Tax Exempt status was hinky, at best.
Not enough evidence to go after them, especially given the quality of the lawyers they have.
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Political Atheist Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:41:28pm |
re: #43 Lidane
Since we’re talking about sports, this should go over well:
Tiger Woods Re-Proposes to Ex-Wife Elin Nordegren with $200 Million Prenup Because OH, SURE, WHY NOT
What could possibly go wrong?
Call me a romantic, I like the gesture if it is genuine.
re: #44 Dark_Falcon
Most expensive grovel in history?
How much was that Laker purple diamond ring…. ? Pfffft only four million.
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:42:42pm |
re: #62 Dark_Falcon
Germany terms them a national security threat. I’ve heard the German Government has done wire-tapping in the past.
Ask Germany to turn over copies of everything they have. France, Belgium, (and to an extent) Norway have the same policies. Ask them to do the same.
Find one little thing, and nail them to the wall with it. Be warned though, the head nutcases are at least as well armed as the Waco-nuts.
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EPR-radar Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:44:20pm |
re: #63 Political Atheist
I tend to be not romantic in general, and reading about Elin’s apparent request for a separate $350 million no-cheating clause in the prenup pretty much extinguishes any silly romantic notions I might have had in this case.
Tiger’s got an expensive obsession.
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CuriousLurker Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:45:41pm |
re: #63 Political Atheist
Call me a romantic, I like the gesture if it is genuine.
You’re hopeless. //
How much was that Laker purple diamond ring…. ? Pfffft only four million.
What a paltry little bauble. *snif*
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:50:53pm |
re: #64 ProBosniaLiberal
Germany terms them a national security threat. I’ve heard the German Government has done wire-tapping in the past.
Ask Germany to turn over copies of everything they have. France, Belgium, (and to an extent) Norway have the same policies. Ask them to do the same.
Find one little thing, and nail them to the wall with it. Be warned though, the head nutcases are at least as well armed as the Waco-nuts.
Those German wiretaps were done without warrants and could not be used to build a case or in court. European nations tend to be more willing to allow use of wiretapping for national security purposes, but they don’t allow the products of such taps in court most of the time. The 4th Amendment prohibits such no-warrant policies being brought to the US.
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Political Atheist Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:51:19pm |
re: #66 CuriousLurker
You’re hopeless. //
What a paltry little bauble. *snif*
Just in case anyone needs one.. Always here to help and all…
That stone might be on the market.
///
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CuriousLurker Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:54:13pm |
re: #69 Political Atheist
Just in case anyone needs one.. Always here to help and all…
That stone might be on the market.///
Well, it’s certainly a pretty bauble, heh.
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:54:59pm |
re: #67 Dark_Falcon
There should be a little string we can find, in order to start searches.
What about the allegations of children being separated from parents? We have a number of eyewitness reports on all manner of malfeasance, why don’t we use them to get warrants?
Also, the thing with the wiretaps is that we did the exact same thing under the Bush Administration.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:58:55pm |
re: #72 ProBosniaLiberal
There should be a little string we can find, in order to start searches.
What about the allegations of children being separated from parents? We have a number of eyewitness reports on all manner of malfeasance, why don’t we use them to get warrants?
Also, the thing with the wiretaps is that we did the exact same thing under the Bush Administration.
The difference is that AGs Ashcroft, Gonzalez and Murkasy did not attempt to use evidence from warrantless wiretaps in court. It is legal for the US to spy on foreigners without a warrant, but not to use any evidence gained thereby in court.
And to use inadmissible evidence as a ‘string’ risks having anything gained further up that string deemed inadmissible as well as fruit of the poisonous tree.
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:59:16pm |
Here’s something:
In 2012, Debbie Cook, the former director of the Church’s Flag Land Base in Clearwater, Florida, testified in court that she was imprisoned in the Hole for a seven-week period in 2007.
That is False Imprisonment. Use that as springboard for a warrant, and use that warrant to pull everything back.
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:00:14pm |
re: #73 Dark_Falcon
Then we use the case in Post #74 as a springboard for inspections.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:01:39pm |
Tonight’s 40k Trivia:
The Immaterium (also referred to as the Empyrean, the Aether, the Sea of Souls, the Realm of Chaos, Warpspace or most commonly, the Warp) is an alternate dimension of purely psychic energy that echoes and underlies the familiar four dimensions of the material universe. It is the source of all psychic powers and known instances of so-called “sorcery” or “magic” as well as the home dimension of the Chaos Gods and their myriad daemonic servants. In fact, the terms “Chaos” and “the Warp” are often used interchangeably by those aware of their existence within the Imperium of Man. Superficially, the Immaterium is Mankind’s solution to the problem of faster-than-light travel, an equivalent to the Star Wars universe’s dimension of hyperspace. This function as a faster-than-light medium for space travel is achieved because the Immaterium is a domain of pure psychic energy, with spacecraft navigating between its currents, as in an ocean. The psychic energy that makes up the Immaterium is believed to be the direct result of the existence of sentience in the universe, in particular the sentient species of the Milky Way Galaxy. Considered to be a dark reflection of the material universe, the Warp is an ocean of chaotic energy, raw emotion given energetic and often physical form. Stirred by emotion and action, the Immaterium is the true Realm of Chaos, home to the Dark Gods who comprise the Ruinous Powers and their legions of daemonic followers. The Immaterium is also rumoured by many cultures, human and xenos alike, to be the final resting place of the spirits of the dead, and therefore can be considered the “Underworld” of the Warhammer 40,000 universe.
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Mattand Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:06:51pm |
Ugh. Having a discussion with a Blue Dog Democrat on TPM who is under the delusion that Christie is the Magical Moderate Who Will Save the GOP and Unite Us All™.
Most of you guys don’t live in NJ. Seriously, how does the media portray Christie out there? ‘Cause prior to Sandy, what I’ve seen here and what people from across the country post about him are light years apart.
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jaunte Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:13:11pm |
Black conservatives launch effort to scrap part of Voting Rights Act
Project 21′s argument focuses on the part of the Voting Rights Act called Section 5, which holds that certain areas of the country with a history of racial discrimination when it comes to voting rights need to get federal approval before changing any of their voting procedures.
Hallelujah! Texas doesn’t gerrymander any more!
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:17:30pm |
re: #78 Mattand
Ugh. Having a discussion with a Blue Dog Democrat on TPM who is under the delusion that Christie is the Magical Moderate Who Will Save the GOP and Unite Us All™.
Most of you guys don’t live in NJ. Seriously, how does the media portray Christie out there? ‘Cause prior to Sandy, what I’ve seen here and what people from across the country post about him are light years apart.
Ask the Blue Dog if this means he’s given up on Romney to be the Magic Moderate.
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Gus Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:18:37pm |
Dear internet. Please stop spreading fake images and quotes. Thanks.
Yep. That should do it.
I’m chuckling inside though whenever I think of recent events juxtaposed against “Pallywood.”
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Mattand Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:22:55pm |
re: #80 Targetpractice
As the Blue Dog if this means he’s given up on Romney to be the Magic Moderate.
Says he voted for Obama twice, but feels he’d vote for Christie over Hillary because Christie is more “genuine.”
Pointing out that Christie supports most current GOP policy and he backed Romney is having no effect.
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:23:45pm |
re: #82 Mattand
Says he voted for Obama twice, but feels he’d vote for Christie over Hillary because Christie is more “genuine.”
Pointing out that Christie supports most current GOP policy and he backed Romney is having no effect.
Genuine. Translation: “He doesn’t try to hide that he’s an asshole.”
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engineer cat Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:26:10pm |
so
what kind of performance enhancing drug can i take to make my code come out better?
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:28:08pm |
Charlie Pierce has been commenting on that of late, the media’s drive in the wake of the electoral drubbing the GOP took to find somebody a prominent “moderate” in the party and bet on that horse to bring them back around to “sanity.” The two that they seem of late to be lusting over are Bobby Jindal and Chris Christie, both of whom the press thinks are the winning horses because they’ve “stood up” to the party leadership.
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engineer cat Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:29:43pm |
christie only comes out “moderate” on 1) the magic balance fairy principal of he pisses everybody off equally, and 2) he’s not an utter moron
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Kragar Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:30:32pm |
re: #84 engineer cat
so
what kind of performance enhancing drug can i take to make my code come out better?
Adderall
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:31:21pm |
re: #75 ProBosniaLiberal
I should not that the little expose NBC just had hit just about every single major point imaginable, including the infiltration of the US Government in the 1970’s.
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bratwurst Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:31:50pm |
Uh oh…the author of “the page that came back from the dead” seems to think a little Fjordman once in a while is ok:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
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engineer cat Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:32:35pm |
re: #85 Targetpractice
Charlie Pierce has been commenting on that of late, the media’s drive in the wake of the electoral drubbing the GOP took to find somebody a prominent “moderate” in the party and bet on that horse to bring them back around to “sanity.” The two that they seem of late to be lusting over are Bobby Jindal and Chris Christie, both of whom the press thinks are the winning horses because they’ve “stood up” to the party leadership.
but from the tea party point of view the problem has been exactly that every nominee since reagan has been a moderate, as a matter of fact getting more “moderate” all the time
hopefully the next official gop nominee will be so “moderate” that the teabaggers will walk right out
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engineer cat Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:33:32pm |
re: #87 Kragar
Adderall
Adderall is a psychostimulant medication that contains amphetamine. It is used for the treatment of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and narcolepsy
actually i was thinking more like “beer”
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:35:32pm |
re: #89 bratwurst
Uh oh…the author of “the page that came back from the dead” seems to think a little Fjordman once in a while is ok:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
We all go a little Fjordman once in a while.
/////
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austin_blue Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:36:14pm |
re: #85 Targetpractice
Charlie Pierce has been commenting on that of late, the media’s drive in the wake of the electoral drubbing the GOP took to find somebody a prominent “moderate” in the party and bet on that horse to bring them back around to “sanity.” The two that they seem of late to be lusting over are Bobby Jindal and Chris Christie, both of whom the press thinks are the winning horses because they’ve “stood up” to the party leadership.
Jindal? Jindal?
Creationist shill. No way in hell.
Christie has stones, but he doesn’t have nearly the heft that Howard Taft had.
//
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:36:20pm |
re: #89 bratwurst
I think I made my point there.
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Gus Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:42:09pm |
A progressive of course wouldn’t vote for Christie. Given the choice between him and a Teabagger nut, gubernatorially the logical choice would be him. I think the TGOP is already pissed off at him enough to not see him as a viable candidate in 2016. Given the choice of Christie or Rubio I think the former would be more reasonable. If I was a progressive Republican that is. He is unique. Corzine fucked up big time and turned out to be an extremely flawed governor and questionable businessman. Out of NJ the one to watch is Cory Booker. Next stop for him might be the US Senate or governor.
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dragonath Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:42:53pm |
re: #82 Mattand
I found the thread you are talking about. I think it’s funny how the guy links to Christie’s global warming comments as some Road to Damascus moment even though he has said there is nothing to really do about it.
New Jersey did end up petitioning the EPA about SO2 emissions coming in from Pennsylvania, which is probably better than most GOP governors.
Sometimes I see Christie as being motivated by a little bit of spite.“You didn’t think I’d do that, did ya?” But thinking he’s a moderate force against union overreach is some kind of willful ignorance.
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bratwurst Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:50:34pm |
re: #94 ProBosniaLiberal
I think I made my point there.
Naturally, all sympathy to you. Time has done little to heal the horror that those of us who were fortunate enough not to have a personal connection felt on that day. I cannot imagine what it was like for you and yours.
However, let’s be clear that not being able to see that respectable journalists and commentators do not allow their names to be associated with the likes of Geert Wilders and Fjordman is a far cry from advocating for Breivik.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:51:21pm |
re: #97 bratwurst
Naturally, all sympathy to you. Time has done little to heal the horror that those of us who were fortunate enough not to have a personal connection felt on that day. I cannot imagine what it was like for you and yours.
However, let’s be clear that not being able to see that respectable journalists and commentators do not allow their names to be associated with the likes of Geert Wilders and Fjordman is a far cry from advocating for Breivik.
Quoted for Truth.
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austin_blue Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:55:47pm |
Pumpkin time approaches in Austin. Time to to toddle off to bed. A dram of Old Pulteney 12 is an excellent nightcap.
Good night, dear Lizards. Sweet scaly dreams.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:01:06pm |
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dragonath Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:02:32pm |
re: #95 Gus
Something that Democrats forget is that the GOP has 30 Governors. That’s at least that many people that the Republicans can throw in voters’ faces and say, hey, “executive experience”.
Christie would have been in a different position today it hadn’t been for the machinations of the Democratic Senate leader in New Jersey, Steven Sweeney, who IIRC attempted to do an end around on the rest of his caucus by making a deal with Christie on teacher tenure, but ended up weakening his position and getting played by the Governor in the end.
To get an idea how badly Sweeney screwed the Democrats on this one, the VP of the generally liberal Laborers International Union ended up endorsing Christie!
There’s a interesting little item on the bottom of that article. CPAC didn’t invite Christie this year. Hmm.
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Robert O. Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:06:49pm |
re: #59 Stan the Demanded Plan
Exactly. To me, the doping and cheating are the least of the problems. It is the criminal activities, leading a conspiracy, fraud, and destroying reputations and careers, which went far beyond the sins reported for any other riders, that is totally unforgivable.
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Targetpractice Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:07:17pm |
re: #100 Kragar
Jon Stewart annihilates GOP hysteria over Obama’s executive orders
“OK, two things. Those measures enjoy, I believe, majority support in the latest polls,” Stewart said. “And two, when tyrants want something done, they generally don’t ask their legislative bodies if that would be OK.”
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Kragar Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:10:41pm |
re: #103 Targetpractice
“First, they came for the guns, and I said nothing… because they really didn’t.”
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:13:30pm |
I found something weird out:
During the Syrian Civil War, a weapons cache of 5,000 StG 44s were captured by Syrian rebels in the city of Aleppo. Later, photos surfaced of the rebels using them in combat.
Where the hell were the Syrian’s keeping Grandpa’s Assault Rifles?
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:17:39pm |
re: #105 ProBosniaLiberal
This also shows incompetence of the FSA’s part.
THose guns are collector’s items.
If they could use Turkey as a go between, they could sell on the US market for mind-blowing amounts, enabling them to get a greater number of arms than the 5,000 STG44s.
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Gus Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:18:58pm |
This is weird. Or maybe it’s me.
Islamists, who have, like many others, found ways of influencing Western democracies, have refined one process in particular, called al Taqiyya [dissimulation], sanctioned to promote Islam to “unbelievers” or “infidels,” if and when considered necessary. The word “Islamophobia,” for instance, has been disguised and misused so frequently that when Westerners merely question Islam, or its role in terrorism, they risk being branded as “Islamophobes” or “racists.” The term “victimology,” in which Islamists perpetually portray Muslims as victims of racism or of “colonialists” or “imperialists,” has also generated impressive results in vanquishing the infidel, and providing Islam an immunity from criticism and satirical depictions. As a result, whenever the subject about Islam is raised, open dialogue, media and public discourse are restricted or shut down out of fear of being branded “Islamophobic” or “racist,” even where no such sentiments may have been present. No other religion even attempts to obtain such blanket immunity.
Continues.
And I’m anti-Islamist rule BTW that at least isn’t part of an existing culture.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:22:46pm |
OK, I am restraining myself from screaming at someone. Well, I’m trying!
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:23:15pm |
re: #110 Dancing along the light of day
I say something wrong?
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Gus Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:23:41pm |
So now we’re having a rational conversation. So, so, in your mind, you believe gun control, is an arms treaty negotiation. With our US military. As the founders intended.
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Gus Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:25:00pm |
Good Morning, Earth! Lots of aurora last night, our busy Sun. Need students to test radiation w/me: register today! asc-csa.gc.ca/eng/missions/e…— Chris Hadfield (@Cmdr_Hadfield) January 18, 2013
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:26:24pm |
re: #107 ProBosniaLiberal
This also shows incompetence of the FSA’s part.
THose guns are collector’s items.
If they could use Turkey as a go between, they could sell on the US market for mind-blowing amounts, enabling them to get a greater number of arms than the 5,000 STG44s.
No, they couldn’t. The importation of automatic weapons for civilian use in the US was ended in May of 1986 by the passage of the final version of the Firearms Owner’s Protection ACT (FOPA).
Those guns were sent to Syria by the Soviet Union, which sent Syria a great deal of ex-German weaponry in the 1950’s, up to a least one PzKpfw Mark V Panther and a substantial number of PzKpfw Mark IV tanks.
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Gus Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:27:03pm |
MLK was assassinated with a rifle. Please don’t bring up gun rights within the context of Martin Luther King, Jr. It’s offensive.
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:31:40pm |
re: #115 Dark_Falcon
Well, there goes on thought on help the Syrian Rebels.
Mali at this point is much, much simpler than Syria. Apparently, even Garands and Mosin-Nagants have shown up in the fighting. Syria is quickly becoming Somalia of the Levant.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:32:15pm |
re: #111 ProBosniaLiberal
Giggles, not yet!
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Kragar Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:32:19pm |
re: #116 Gus
MLK was assassinated with a rifle. Please don’t bring up gun rights within the context of Martin Luther King, Jr. It’s offensive.
Offensive is what they do best.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:37:45pm |
re: #117 ProBosniaLiberal
Well, there goes on thought on help the Syrian Rebels.
Mali at this point is much, much simpler than Syria. Apparently, even Garands and Mosin-Nagants have shown up in the fighting. Syria is quickly becoming Somalia of the Levant.
The biggest ‘old guns’ battle was Fallujah in Iraq. Many of the Sunni insurgents were using guns looted from the national military museum. United States Marines recoverd an M1919, multiple MG-42s and Bren Guns and a number of Garands. Interestingly, a number of Iranian made MP5 submachineguns and G3 rifles were also encountered. The MP5s were actually used by US Marines for close quarters battle, with a resulting rise in 9mm ammo consumption originally attributed to Marines having to make high use of their M9 pistols.
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:40:38pm |
re: #120 Dark_Falcon
The Syrian Civil War is turning into an era-inclusive free-for-all.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:44:14pm |
re: #122 Gus
Speak for yourself, asshole!
///
Can I add more sarc tags?
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Gus Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:44:18pm |
I’m still open to interacting with conservatives. OK, not too many.
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Mattand Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:46:21pm |
re: #95 Gus
A progressive of course wouldn’t vote for Christie. Given the choice between him and a Teabagger nut, gubernatorially the logical choice would be him. I think the TGOP is already pissed off at him enough to not see him as a viable candidate in 2016. Given the choice of Christie or Rubio I think the former would be more reasonable. If I was a progressive Republican that is. He is unique. Corzine fucked up big time and turned out to be an extremely flawed governor and questionable businessman. Out of NJ the one to watch is Cory Booker. Next stop for him might be the US Senate or governor.
Definitely Senate. I think Booker is going for Lautenberg’s seat. Given Christie’s good work on Sandy, going up against him will be a suicide run. Not sure what Lautenberg’s plans are, but the guy is closing in on Strom Thurmond territory, age wise.
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Gus Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:49:45pm |
re: #125 Mattand
Definitely Senate. I think Booker is going for Lautenberg’s seat. Given Christie’s good work on Sandy, going up against him will be a suicide run. Not sure what Lautenberg’s plans are, but the guy is closing in on Strom Thurmond territory, age wise.
I’m so old I even wrote a few letters to Lautenberg on a typewriter.
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Gus Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:52:21pm |
Centurion Air Cargo
More: McDonnell Douglas MD-11(F)
N984AR / 984
50, 40, 30, 20. 10. Retard.
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bratwurst Thu, Jan 17, 2013 11:01:33pm |
re: #127 Gus
I’m so old I even wrote a few letters to Lautenberg on a typewriter.
Did it look like this?
I should talk…I got through college without touching a computer ONCE.
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Gus Thu, Jan 17, 2013 11:06:22pm |
re: #130 bratwurst
Did it look like this?
I should talk…I got through college without touching a computer ONCE.
Nah. A couple of decades later. Like a Smith Carona first. Dictionary and thesaurus at hand. I also worked with my hands before I touched a computer.
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 17, 2013 11:16:06pm |
re: #108 Gus
This is weird. Or maybe it’s me.
The “Victimology” Subterfuge
Weird is not the word for that. Disgusting comes closer.
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 17, 2013 11:17:26pm |
re: #130 bratwurst
Did it look like this?
I should talk…I got through college without touching a computer ONCE.
I had a friend in college who wrote his poetry on one just like that.
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Mattand Thu, Jan 17, 2013 11:31:14pm |
re: #127 Gus
I’m so old I even wrote a few letters to Lautenberg on a typewriter.
LOL, I learned to type on a typewriter. One of the few things I learned in high school that I’ll still use to this day. Made the transition to digital a lot easier.
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subterraneanhomesickalien Thu, Jan 17, 2013 11:32:27pm |
OT.
Just got off of work a couple of hours ago and I’m here in my recliner after my nightly run listening to mp3 uploads on Youtube.
I’ve been listening to the Red Hot Chlii Peppers for the last hour, and I can’t help but be amazed that Soul to Squeeze was left off of Blood Sugar Sex Magik. That album was already a masterpiece without it, and this would have been the third or fourth best song on the album if they would have included it!!!
Rick Rubin isn’t the genius I thought he was I guess.
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Mattand Thu, Jan 17, 2013 11:33:47pm |
re: #130 bratwurst
Did it look like this?
I should talk…I got through college without touching a computer ONCE.
I graduated art school in ‘88. Missed our school’s first set of Macs by six months.
Started learning the computer in earnest in ‘93. I look back now on the sea change in how graphics are created, and it still blows my mind.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 17, 2013 11:39:32pm |
re: #135 Kdizzle
OT.
Just got off of work a couple of hours ago and I’m here in my recliner after my nightly run listening to mp3 uploads on Youtube.
I’ve been listening to the Red Hot Chlii Peppers for the last hour, and I can’t help but be amazed that Soul to Squeeze was left off of Blood Sugar Sex Magik. That album was already a masterpiece without it, and this would have been the third or fourth best song on the album if they would have included it!!!
Rick Rubin isn’t the genius I thought he was I guess.
RHCP is one of those bands that I just can’t get into. I really don’t understand their popularity.
Of course I say the same thing about U2, Coldplay and Radiohead.
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subterraneanhomesickalien Thu, Jan 17, 2013 11:46:39pm |
re: #137 Kragar
I can agree with you on Coldplay and U2, but Radiohead is and has been fucking great ever since they abandoned that grunge facsimile crap they were doing in the early 90’s.
You really can’t name many other bands that had a run of albums like they did (The Bends, OK Computer, Kid A) that were just brilliant. OF course the Beatles did, so did Led Zep, so did The Who.
As for the Chili Peppers, it depends on what album you are listening to. Its seems like they release a great album at either the beginning or ending of the decade. Experiment with that sound with depreciating results, and then release something great and new at the end or beginning of the next decade.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Jan 17, 2013 11:50:30pm |
re: #96 dragonath
.
Sometimes I see Christie as being motivated by a little bit of spite.“You didn’t think I’d do that, did ya?” But thinking he’s a moderate force against union overreach is some kind of willful ignorance.
Christie is one of those vestigal reminders that there was once a GOP that sane people could vote for.
I probably would never vote for him, but I admire him for standing up to the party ideologues on issues like Islamophobia, guns and global warming.
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Dr Lizardo Fri, Jan 18, 2013 1:33:45am |
re: #108 Gus
This is weird. Or maybe it’s me.
And I’m anti-Islamist rule BTW that at least isn’t part of an existing culture.
It stems from an incorrect understanding of what al-Taqqiya actually is. It’s predominantly a Shi’a phenomenon (understandably, as Shi’as were frequently persecuted by Sunni rulers). In Sunni Islam, there’s really no such thing from a doctrinal point of view, though it has happened infrequently. A lot of folks who make the “taqqiya” claim are frankly rehashing an anti-Semitic canard that claims “It’s ok for Jews to lie to the goyim because it’s allowed in the Talmud; therefore, all Jews are liars.”
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…] A good explanation of it there.
It’s BS, quite honestly.
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Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Jan 18, 2013 1:38:25am |
If someone wants to argue against Islam on based on a thorough study of the Koran and its history, I am prepared to listen.
If somebody wants to run down Muslims and Islam based on some stuff they read on an Internet site, then they can continue to run down Islam on their Internet site to fellow bigots, I pay no attention.
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Dr Lizardo Fri, Jan 18, 2013 1:44:09am |
re: #141 Sol Berdinowitz
If someone wants to argue against Islam on based on a thorough study of the Koran and its history, I am prepared to listen.
If somebody wants to run down Muslims and Islam based on some stuff they read on an Internet site, then they can continue to run down Islam on their Internet site to fellow bigots, I pay no attention.
I got into it with a fellow whose research consisted of Pammy’s Atlas Shrugs website.
*headdesk*
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Kragar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 1:45:15am |
re: #138 Kdizzle
You really can’t name many other bands that had a run of albums like they did (The Bends, OK Computer, Kid A) that were just brilliant. OF course the Beatles did, so did Led Zep, so did The Who.
And Iron Maiden
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Dr Lizardo Fri, Jan 18, 2013 1:47:07am |
re: #143 Kragar
And Iron Maiden
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I’d like to know why the members of Iron Maiden haven’t been knighted yet. Seriously, they’re big promoters of British culture worldwide.
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Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Jan 18, 2013 1:59:52am |
re: #138 Kdizzle
As for the Chili Peppers, it depends on what album you are listening too. Its seems like they release a great album at either the beginning or ending of the decade. Experiment with that sound with depreciating results, and then release something great at the end or beginning of the next decade.
I am an incredibly disloyal fan: I don’t care how much I like a band’s previous work, if they turn out something I don’t like, I ignore it.
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Shiplord Kirel Fri, Jan 18, 2013 2:01:11am |
OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE!!
Freepers are getting an early start on their daily rage. The cause is a recently published West Point research paper that highlights the danger of far right terrorism.
West Point center cites dangers of ‘far right’ in U.S. (West Point infiltrated by far left)
A West Point think tank has issued a paper warning America about “far right” groups such as the “anti-federalist” movement, which supports “civil activism, individual freedoms and self-government.”
The report issued this week by the Combating Terrorism Center at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, N.Y., is titled “Challengers from the Sidelines: Understanding America’s Violent Far-Right.”
The center — part of the institution where men and women are molded into Army officers — posted the report Tuesday. It lumps limited government activists with three movements it identifies as “a racist/white supremacy movement, an anti-federalist movement and a fundamentalist movement.”
The West Point center typically focuses reports on al Qaeda and other Islamic extremists attempting to gain power in Asia, the Middle East and Africa through violence.
But its latest study turns inward and paints a broad brush of people it considers “far right.”
For many years now, these self-same “conservatives” have vilified President Obama, and President Bush before him, for allegedly ignoring terrorist threats in the name of “political correctness.” Now, of course, they want the Army planners to do the same when it is their political ox being gored.
Freepers are blissfully unaware of the irony, but the very first comment would seem to help make the paper’s case:
My God. How is this tolerated. Our Nation is becoming completely inverted. How are the communists able to infiltrate their propaganda into every major institution in our entire Nation? This is surreal. If the communists can get this kind of madness accepted to be taught to upcoming officers by the Nations number one military institute, they must be giggling hystericaly.
And this gem, which may or may not survive scrutiny from the mods:
The author is yet another left-wing Jew. Same sort of mindset that is at the forefront of the gun control hysteria in the nation just now.
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Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Jan 18, 2013 2:15:36am |
re: #146 Shiplord Kirel
This is what I expect to see more of: the right threatening or provoking violence, and when the authorities move in to crack down on it, the RWNJs will hold it up as proof that the government is out to get us.
Inasmuch as there is no reasoning with these people, we will have to get used to a lot more of these scenarios in the future.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 18, 2013 3:45:26am |
re: #147 Sol Berdinowitz
I remember this going on under Clinton, but during that time these whackos were outside the mainstream. Now some of them hold elected office.
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Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Jan 18, 2013 3:55:57am |
re: #148 Obdicut
I remember this going on under Clinton, but during that time these whackos were outside the mainstream. Now some of them hold elected office.
9/11 truthers were seen by most people as nut jobs, but the Newton Truthers have the tacit support of the party and of a major lobbying and advocacy group.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 18, 2013 5:06:48am |
HOLY FUCKING CRAP
If there were ever a time to be planning a full-scale revolt against government tyranny, it has arrived.— Joseph Farah (@JosephFarah) January 18, 2013
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wheat-dogghazi Fri, Jan 18, 2013 5:10:53am |
re: #150 Vicious Babushka
That’s the WND Farah, right?
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Jan 18, 2013 5:11:15am |
re: #150 Vicious Babushka
He’s gonna rally the commandos of the 82nd Chairborne Division?
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 18, 2013 5:16:30am |
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darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 5:19:29am |
Now this was pretty smart…while it lasted.
[Link: www.npr.org…]
As Emil Protalinski writes at The Next Web, the company’s security measures included a coded fob which, the investigating team learned, a code developer had shipped to Shenyang, China, so that a company there could perform his assigned work.
And it turns out that the job done in China was above par — the employee’s “code was clean, well written, and submitted in a timely fashion. Quarter after quarter, his performance review noted him as the best developer in the building,” according to the Verizon Security Blog.
Mornin’ everyone…
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Dr. Matt Fri, Jan 18, 2013 5:20:34am |
re: #143 Kragar
And Iron Maiden
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Well played! My first concert was Twisted Sister opening for Maiden……a looooong time ago.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 18, 2013 5:27:23am |
Your comprehensive answer to every Sandy Hook conspiracy theory . bit.ly/WaU6aN— Sadistic Statist (@TheXclass) January 18, 2013
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darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 5:38:09am |
re: #156 Dr. Matt
Well played! My first concert was Twisted Sister opening for Maiden……a looooong time ago.
Meh…I saw the Bay City Rollers. S A T U R D A Y Hey!
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 18, 2013 5:43:46am |
re: #150 Vicious Babushka
HOLY FUCKING CRAP
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His readers are a small minority, but if you mapped them there would be a lot of red dots around here. That’s why I’m of two minds about semi-auto weapons.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 18, 2013 5:48:10am |
re: #150 Vicious Babushka
HOLY FUCKING CRAP
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And even though he’s talking treason, he’s a coward, so he’s putting it in the subjunctive and hiding. He’s trying to incite others, he doesn’t even have the moral bravery to make a stand on his own.
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darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 5:53:40am |
re: #150 Alouette
HOLY FUCKING CRAP
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Write back and say, “Lead the charge, asshole…we’ll watch.”
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 18, 2013 5:55:46am |
Fewer Godwins this morning—but still out there, among the usual flood of deranged shit. The prize turds have been selected for your delectation.
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darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 6:07:25am |
Nice op-ed by a gun owner in CS Monitor about high capacity magazines…
[Link: www.csmonitor.com…]
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Ghost of Tom Joad Fri, Jan 18, 2013 6:10:54am |
re: #154 Kronocide
No different than al Quaeda.
I think it was Chris Rock who said
“I ain’t afraid of Al Qaeda. I’m afraid of Al Cracka!”
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Geoff with a G Fri, Jan 18, 2013 6:17:44am |
OT: Regarding my question yesterday about explaining MLK to my 4yo.
On the ride home last night I asked her what she learned at school today. She thought for a while and said “We learned about Mr. King”. I asked her what she knew about “Mr. King” and she said: “That he had a dream. And that he wanted black and brown boys and girls to be allowed to play in the sand with white boys and girls.” So I asked her if his dream came true and she said: “Yep I can play with anyone I want, no matter what color they are.”
We talked for a bit more about it but I was proud pappa.
This morning she sat down and watched the whole speech on Youtube.
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freetoken Fri, Jan 18, 2013 6:27:47am |
re: #155 darthstar
Which raises the question: If Verizon liked the work so much, and it can be had for only a fifth the cost as they pay their American workers, why don’t they just offshore their s/w development to Shenyang?
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makeitstop Fri, Jan 18, 2013 6:31:05am |
re: #166 freetoken
Which raises the question: If Verizon liked the work so much, and it can be had for only a fifth the cost as they pay their American workers, why don’t they just offshore their s/w development to Shenyang?
I can’t speak for their dev department, but my late FIL was an engineer for Verizon and I know a cell system tech, and they both belong to pretty strong unions.
But I’m in the librul free zone known as New York, so it may not be the same everywhere, or even for different divisions of the company.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Fri, Jan 18, 2013 6:40:54am |
re: #165 Geoff with a G
Glad to hear that. Sometimes a child’s simple understanding of an issue is actually the most intelligent; kids of different colors playing together in the sandbox.
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rwdflynavy Fri, Jan 18, 2013 6:43:41am |
Whoopsie!
Additions to be made to gun laws for law enforcement
A troubling oversight has been found within New York State’s sweeping new gun laws.
The ban on having high-capacity magazines, as it’s written, would also include law enforcement officers.
Magazines with more than seven rounds will be illegal under the new law when that part takes effect in March.
As the statute is currently written, it does not exempt law enforcement officers.
Nearly every law enforcement agency in the state carries hand guns that have a 15 round capacity.
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rwdflynavy Fri, Jan 18, 2013 6:44:33am |
re: #169 rwdflynavy
I like it, a level playing field for all, as long as the criminals don’t cheat.
//
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Political Atheist Fri, Jan 18, 2013 6:47:04am |
re: #169 rwdflynavy
Whoopsie!
Fast law is poor law.
Related…
New CenturyLink gun policy riles law enforcement
If I have time on break, gonna write up a Page on this.
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rwdflynavy Fri, Jan 18, 2013 6:48:21am |
re: #171 Political Atheist
Fast law is poor law.
Related…
New CenturyLink gun policy riles law enforcementIf I have time on break, gonna write up a Page on this.
In the military we have a saying, “If you want it bad, you’ll get it bad”.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 18, 2013 6:48:54am |
Good morning lizards!
The 4-7 inches of snow we were told was coming became 4-7 snowflakes. My kids were disappointed this morning.
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Bubblehead II Fri, Jan 18, 2013 6:50:09am |
re: #84 engineer cat
so
what kind of performance enhancing drug can i take to make my code come out better?
Don’t try using drugs. Just outsource you job.
Security audit finds dev OUTSOURCED his JOB to China to goof off at work
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 18, 2013 6:57:43am |
Guess all those drone strikes and a bullet to Osama’s head don’t count.
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 18, 2013 6:59:04am |
And the gun lobby wonders why Americans think they are nuts.
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William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Jan 18, 2013 6:59:18am |
re: #171 Political Atheist
Fast law is poor law.
They still have a problem with tube magazines. The only exception is for .22 so a currently made .30-30 would be illegal (my Winchester holds 8). I’m still not sure how going from 10 round to 7 makes anyone safer anyway…
Related…
New CenturyLink gun policy riles law enforcementIf I have time on break, gonna write up a Page on this.
I’ll wait to comment then.
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:05:21am |
Let’s stop enforcing drug laws.
Criminals will still get drugs.
Hell, why bother with any laws at all? Criminals will break them!
/NRA gun law logic applied to other laws.
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iossarian Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:09:53am |
re: #165 Geoff with a G
OT: Regarding my question yesterday about explaining MLK to my 4yo.
On the ride home last night I asked her what she learned at school today. She thought for a while and said “We learned about Mr. King”. I asked her what she knew about “Mr. King” and she said: “That he had a dream. And that he wanted black and brown boys and girls to be allowed to play in the sand with white boys and girls.” So I asked her if his dream came true and she said: “Yep I can play with anyone I want, no matter what color they are.”
We talked for a bit more about it but I was proud pappa.
This morning she sat down and watched the whole speech on Youtube.
That’s a really cool story, and one with which I suspect many parents will relate. I have certainly had similar conversations with my kids (the same-sex marriage ones are the most fun!).
It also puts into perspective the whole “indoctrination” thing that people get so worked up about. Kids get indoctrinated all the time - you can’t really stop that. The key question is what the indoctrination is about: is it “the world outside is scary and we need to kill all our enemies” or “actually everyone is potentially a good friend, even if they look a bit different to you”?
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:10:35am |
Lol, he’s ranting away on his blog.
I repeat: The fact that Fjordman wrote articles for the very same site that Toameh did is enough to dismiss the content without question.
Why, yes, yes it is!
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Interesting Times Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:11:28am |
re: #179 Varek Raith
I see EI got himself banned.
Shocked!
It’s so ridiculous that he made it come to that. He was a perfectly sane and reasonable commenter in every other respect, so why the willful blindness bordering on malicious passive-aggressiveness there? It’s self-defeating, utterly irrational, and makes no sense at any level.
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Stanghazi Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:12:31am |
re: #179 Varek Raith
I see EI got himself banned.
Shocked!
He went off the deep end. I remember when he was sane. I guess.
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Varek Raith Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:13:46am |
re: #182 Interesting Times
It’s so ridiculous that he made it come to that. He was a perfectly sane and reasonable commenter in every other respect, so why the willful blindness bordering on malicious passive-aggressiveness there? It’s self-defeating, utterly irrational, and makes no sense at any level.
I have no idea.
All he was asked to do was find credible sources and stop linking to those type of groups..
Then there was this;
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
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iossarian Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:14:36am |
re: #184 Varek Raith
I have no idea.
All he was asked to do was find credible sources and stop linking to those type of groups..
Then there was this;
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
Am I a “Traitor to Free Speech”?
I’ve always wanted to be one.
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darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:16:20am |
re: #173 NJDhockeyfan
Good morning lizards!
The 4-7 inches of snow we were told was coming became 4-7 snowflakes. My kids were disappointed this morning.
Don’t bitch at us, take it up with Obama…he controls the weather.
//
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:18:03am |
re: #169 rwdflynavy
That change will clarify things, but the NYS Penal Code also has rules of construction that would have carved out a law enforcement exemption by application:
S 5.00 Penal law not strictly construed.
The general rule that a penal statute is to be strictly construed does
not apply to this chapter, but the provisions herein must be construed
according to the fair import of their terms to promote justice and
effect the objects of the law.
In other words, a court could have construed the application of the limitations as not applying to law enforcement but only to criminals.
Then, there’s specific exemptions:
S 265.20 Exemptions.
a. Sections 265.01, 265.02, 265.03, 265.04, 265.05, 265.10, 265.11,
265.12, 265.13, 265.15 and 270.05 shall not apply to:
1. Possession of any of the weapons, instruments, appliances or
substances specified in sections 265.01, 265.02, 265.03, 265.04, 265.05
and 270.05 by the following:
(a) Persons in the military service of the state of New York when duly
authorized by regulations issued by the adjutant general to possess the
same.
(b) Police officers as defined in subdivision thirty-four of section
1.20 of the criminal procedure law.
(c) Peace officers as defined by section 2.10 of the criminal
procedure law.
(d) Persons in the military or other service of the United States, in
pursuit of official duty or when duly authorized by federal law,
regulation or order to possess the same.
Seeing that 265.01 is the base charge (misdemeanor) and exemption applies to law enforcement, one could extrapolate that it too applies to the other more serious charges - since the penal code isn’t to be strictly construed.
The correct thing would have been to specifically amend NYS Penal §265.20 to include the references to the ammo amendments and other newly created felony counts. That’s probably what the amendments will offer up.
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Geoff with a G Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:18:45am |
re: #180 iossarian
She has two friends (brother and sister) that live across the street from us with two dads (in South Boston, the horror!). She asked why they have two dads and we didn’t have a good answer, just that some people have two dads or two moms, or just one parent. She accepted it (thankfully since I was stumped for a better answer).
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William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:18:51am |
re: #179 Varek Raith
I see EI got himself banned.
Shocked!
Finally? Was it that page Charles warned him about?
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Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:23:26am |
re: #175 Varek Raith
Guess all those drone strikes and a bullet to Osama’s head don’t count.
Of course not. Black POTUS, remember?
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iossarian Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:23:34am |
re: #188 Geoff with a G
She has two friends (brother and sister) that live across the street from us with two dads (in South Boston, the horror!). She asked why they have two dads and we didn’t have a good answer, just that some people have two dads or two moms, or just one parent. She accepted it (thankfully since I was stumped for a better answer).
We started with that (“some people just have two dads, like your friend Emma”). Then at about age 6 we got on to “in some places, people don’t let that happen, but fortunately we live in a place where it’s OK”. Now (age 9) we’re roughly at “some men fall in love with other men”.
Indoctrination is my middle name! I should seriously become a UNION TEACHER.
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Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:23:46am |
Guns occupy a special place, because True Conservatives see unrestricted access to firearms as a Divine Right, granted by God and only guaranteed by the Constitution.
That is why they will tolerate no restriction on their God-given right to keep and bear all the firepower they can afford.
When it comes to a perceived choice between God and Guns on one hand and Constitution and gun control on the other, you know how therse people are gonna break.
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Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:24:31am |
Herp! Derp! Eleventy!
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darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:24:42am |
re: #188 Geoff with a G
She has two friends (brother and sister) that live across the street from us with two dads (in South Boston, the horror!). She asked why they have two dads and we didn’t have a good answer, just that some people have two dads or two moms, or just one parent. She accepted it (thankfully since I was stumped for a better answer).
It wasn’t many years ago you could have just said, “They’re evil, sinful people and they’re going to hell.” My nieces and nephews, even in the fucked up conservative family I have, understand gay marriage more than their parents do. Yet another reason why the GOP needs to keep being itself for another four to eight years…the next generation will vote them into irrelevance.
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iossarian Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:26:00am |
re: #193 Lidane
Geez. The second amendment doesn’t apply to nuclear bombs. Get over it people.
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darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:29:38am |
@reignofapril I’m guessing (and hoping) that’s not the Terry Gross from #NPR.— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) January 18, 2013
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Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:35:42am |
WND warns of “mass-murdering tyranny” & “more Sandy Hooks” if Obama’s gun policies are implemented bit.ly/VwaN38— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) January 18, 2013
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iossarian Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:37:03am |
re: #197 Lidane
It’s Bizarro Day every day in wingnut land!
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Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:38:39am |
Makes me glad I went and got the flu shot yesterday:
From bad to worse - new numbers reveal the flu outbreak is still growing. nbcnews.to/13MoGgk— NBC News (@NBCNews) January 18, 2013
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Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:39:16am |
re: #198 iossarian
It’s Bizarro Day every day in wingnut land!
Seriously. I cannot understand the reality these people live in at all.
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Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:43:38am |
*sigh*
South Carolina bill would exempt state militia from federal gun rules - bit.ly/10EeOHN— The Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) January 18, 2013
Supremacy clauses, how the fuck do they work?
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darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:44:50am |
#JustLikeHitler mt @capehartjCBS/NYT POLL: Support for background checks on gun purchases: 90%. have gun in home: 90%.,NRA mbr homes: 85%.— Gen JC Christian (@JC_Christian) January 18, 2013
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darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:46:30am |
re: #201 Lidane
*sigh*
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Supremacy clauses, how the fuck do they work?
I’d love it, if in their haste to get all their wingnuts meaningless exemptions, South Carolina passed a law that got them to register as militia members.
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darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:47:44am |
re: #203 darthstar
I’d love it, if in their haste to get all their wingnuts meaningless exemptions, South Carolina passed a law that got them to register as militia members.
We could get the whole state declared a terrorist organization…take that, Tarheels!
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iossarian Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:48:43am |
re: #204 darthstar
We could get the whole state declared a terrorist organization…take that, Tarheels!
That’s North Carolina*.
* Unless it applies to both in a pre-college sports kind of way, but I don’t think so.
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Geoff with a G Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:53:41am |
I just saw this for the first time when @ebertchicago tweeted it (it’s from 1998).
THE HIDDEN HISTORY OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT
But I haven’t seen anyone bring it up much during these last few days/weeks in regards to the second amendment “battle”.
EDIT: If it’s been posted here already I apologize, I didn’t see it :)
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darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:55:08am |
re: #205 iossarian
That’s North Carolina*.
* Unless it applies to both in a pre-college sports kind of way, but I don’t think so.
There are so many teams I can’t keep them straight…but I gave it a good ole college try.
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Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:58:14am |
Obama’s new official portrait huff.to/105n9OB— Huffington Post (@HuffingtonPost) January 18, 2013
“Look at that smug tyrant! He’s gloating!”
“He’s smiling because he knows he’s destroying our liberty!”
“Why are we wasting taxpayer dollars on taking that evil man’s photo?!”
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iossarian Fri, Jan 18, 2013 7:58:20am |
re: #208 darthstar
There are so many teams I can’t keep them straight…but I gave it a good ole college try.
South Carolina are the Cocks*.
* Actually Gamecocks but Cocks is funnier**.
** I am an adult male. Sue me.
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darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:00:29am |
re: #210 iossarian
South Carolina are the Cocks*.
* Actually Gamecocks but Cocks is funnier**.
** I am an adult male. Sue me.
Do they realize what happens to 99.99% of cocks hatched at a chicken farm?
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Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:00:55am |
Disturbing signs that really repugnant Sandy Hook conspiracy theories are headed for the mainstream buzzfeed.com/bensmith/sandy…— Ben Smith (@BuzzFeedBen) January 18, 2013
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darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:05:27am |
Damn…no more reason to work up a nice erection at airport security. The naked picture scanner company lost their contract.
[Link: www.theatlantic.com…]
Here’s the latest in the long, strange, often frustrating saga of airport security scanners: The Transportation Security Administration has ended a contract with Rapiscan, the manufacturer of the controversial backscatter screener.
The reason, per the TSA? It wasn’t that the machines subjected consumers to objectionably high levels of radiation — a matter that will soon be the subject of a National Academy of Sciences investigation. It was instead that Rapiscan Systems failed to deliver software to protect the privacy of passengers — specifically, to create a system that would avoid creating nude, if cartoonish, images of passengers.
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William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:06:10am |
re: #207 Geoff with a G
I just saw this for the first time when @ebertchicago tweeted it (it’s from 1998).
THE HIDDEN HISTORY OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT
But I haven’t seen anyone bring it up much during these last few days/weeks in regards to the second amendment “battle”.
EDIT: If it’s been posted here already I apologize, I didn’t see it :)
It’s an interesting paper but, as the author points out, if the thesis is correct, why isn’t there any direct evidence? The author then argues his circumstantial evidence is sufficent. Personally, after reading it, I’d have to say that instead it’s because the thesis itself is wrong. At least it’s better presented than a similar argument I read the other day.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:06:37am |
re: #213 darthstar
Well, there’s always the screening pat-downs…. /
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:06:56am |
re: #212 Lidane
@buzzfeedben Not surprising at all when a segment of population has no problem ignoring facts, logic, or reality to fulfill political agenda— lawhawk (@lawhawk) January 18, 2013
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darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:08:32am |
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Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:11:56am |
re: #166 freetoken
Which raises the question: If Verizon liked the work so much, and it can be had for only a fifth the cost as they pay their American workers, why don’t they just offshore their s/w development to Shenyang?
Article was about a developer at an unnamed company. Verizon web security was brought in to analyze the situation and is the source of the information in the article - they were not the company that had the developer.
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darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:12:05am |
So one of the (many) sponsors of Gun Appreciation Day is a white nationalist group, already removed. via @ehananoki bit.ly/UVnodi— Alex Seitz-Wald (@aseitzwald) January 18, 2013
Nobody could have predicted…
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Dr Lizardo Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:17:55am |
re: #219 darthstar
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Nobody could have predicted…
Ah, yes….the American Third Position Party.
People like that make me wish I were President, so I could go on national TV and announce a new Executive Order mandating interracial marriages. Just to hear these bastards shriek.
Yeah, I know….ultimate trolling.
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Dr. Matt Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:18:23am |
re: #219 darthstar
So one of the (many) sponsors of Gun Appreciation Day is a white nationalist group, already removed. via @ehananoki bit.ly/UVnodi
— Alex Seitz-Wald (@aseitzwald) January 18, 2013Nobody could have predicted…
Color me shocked
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:20:06am |
re: #220 Dr Lizardo
Ah, yes….the American Third Position Party.
People like that make me wish I were President, so I could go on national TV and announce a new Executive Order mandating interracial SAME SEX marriages. Just to hear these bastards shriek.
Yeah, I know….ultimate trolling.
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Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:20:14am |
Apocalyptic Tea Party Nation warns “anti-American Marxist” Obama “wants to destroy America” bit.ly/VN0Zmq— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) January 17, 2013
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Ian G. Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:20:34am |
re: #220 Dr Lizardo
Ah, yes….the American Third Position Party.
People like that make me wish I were President, so I could go on national TV and announce a new Executive Order mandating interracial marriages. Just to hear these bastards shriek.
Yeah, I know….ultimate trolling.
I’ve often thought the ultimate trolling of the loony right in this country would be to get “666” tattooed on your forearm as President, and then let it “accidentally” appear during the State of the Union address.
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Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:21:27am |
re: #224 Ian G.
I’ve often thought the ultimate trolling of the loony right in this country would be to get “666” tattooed on your forearm as President, and then let it “accidentally” appear during the State of the Union address.
That and a set of contacts that made your eyes reflect red in the TV lights.
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Political Atheist Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:22:26am |
re: #177 William Barnett-Lewis
They still have a problem with tube magazines. The only exception is for .22 so a currently made .30-30 would be illegal (my Winchester holds 8). I’m still not sure how going from 10 round to 7 makes anyone safer anyway…
I’ll wait to comment then.
Illegal to buy another right? What you have already is legal?!?
Here is where details in the language are everything for us folks that will comply. Removable magazine” or “magazine”? “Seven round limit to clip or magazine” is likely silent on your tube. “Seven round capacity limit to rifle and shotgun” is another deal. Your tube is not removable other than in a tool use teardown, right? There will have to clarification letters from AG’s.
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darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:23:13am |
@daveweigel We need to raise the”GOP rape gaffe” ceiling…it’s getting crowded.— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) January 18, 2013
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Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:23:41am |
re: #225 Feline Fearless Leader
That and a set of contacts that made your eyes reflect red in the TV lights.
The contacts alone would set heads to the ‘splodey setting. And their shrieks of rage would make dogs howl.
I’d love to see Obama do something like that on his last day in office, just to fuck with his critics.
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Dr Lizardo Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:23:46am |
re: #224 Ian G.
I’ve often thought the ultimate trolling of the loony right in this country would be to get “666” tattooed on your forearm as President, and then let it “accidentally” appear during the State of the Union address.
Now that would be awesome.
If it were me, seeing as how I have an appreciation of the theatrical, as POTUS I’d walk in to “Hail to the Chief”, but when the State of the Union was over, I’d walk out to “Ave Satani”.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:24:28am |
Algeria BP Siege: Freed British Hostage ‘Enjoyed’ Terrorist Attack on In Amenas
A British man who was freed after he was held hostage in the In Amenas gas complex by Islamist militant terrorists has appeared on Algerian TV seemingly unperturbed by his ordeal and claiming that he “enjoyed” the episode.
The unnamed man, who is in his 50s, was one of a reported 100 hostages who have been released out of a total of 132 captives, according to Algeria’s state news service APS.
In the broadcast, he thanked the Algerian army for the rescue mission. “They did a fantastic job. I was very impressed with the Algerian army,” he said.
“It was a very exciting episode. I feel sorry for anybody who has been hurt but, other than that, I enjoyed it.”
Another man, who had an accent from the Northeast of England, said that the troops “did a fantastic job”.
“They kept us all nice and safe and fought off the bad guys,” he said. “I never felt in any danger, to be honest.”
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:25:54am |
re: #177 William Barnett-Lewis
The thinking is that by reducing the ammo holder size (whether clip or magazine), you force more reloads, so that the shooter could be overcome by LEOs or others who have chance to intervene.
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darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:26:18am |
re: #231 NJDhockeyfan
Algeria BP Siege: Freed British Hostage ‘Enjoyed’ Terrorist Attack on In Amenas
I think he was talking about the rescue, not the being taken hostage part.
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Dr Lizardo Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:27:10am |
re: #231 NJDhockeyfan
Algeria BP Siege: Freed British Hostage ‘Enjoyed’ Terrorist Attack on In Amenas
(In my best upper-class British accent)
Yes, it was all terribly enjoyable. A jolly smashing time was had by myself and others, and a right good show by our brave boys. Pip pip! Cheerio!
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darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:28:06am |
.@cnn’s @ewerickson should sell shooting hoods mt @davidbadashGun Appreciation Day Spons By RedState & supremacists thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/national-gun-a… …— Gen JC Christian (@JC_Christian) January 18, 2013
Ooh…speaking of bigoted assholes, CNN’s Erickson is also a sponsor.
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darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:29:26am |
re: #235 darthstar
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Ooh…speaking of bigoted assholes, CNN’s Erickson is also a sponsor.
@jc_christian @cnn @ewerickson @davidbadash RedState & Supremacists…isn’t that redundant?— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) January 18, 2013
Never really liked that fucker.
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Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:29:44am |
re: #235 darthstar
Ooh…speaking of bigoted assholes, CNN’s Erickson is also a sponsor.
Shooting hoods for shooters, or shooting hoodies for shootees?
//
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:31:32am |
Quick drive by kiddies
Doing the Snoopy Happy Dance here
Didn’t tell anyone (other than closest family/ friends) but I was being tested for prostate cancer
Results came back
ZERO
NADA
NEGATORY
Guys. Get your PSA tested YEARLY!!
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:32:01am |
re: #231 NJDhockeyfan
It seems they are still holding some hostages.
Reuters and AFP cited local sources saying that 60 foreign hostages were still unaccounted for. The Masked Brigade said that they would trade American hostages for two jihadi fighters jailed in the US - Aafia Siddiqui, of Pakistan, and 1993 World Trade Centre bomber Omar Abdel-Rahman, an Egyptian also known as the “blind sheikh”.
There’s also this: Algeria attack may have link to Libya camps
The region is a mess and needs clean up urgently.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:32:07am |
re: #233 darthstar
I think he was talking about the rescue, not the being taken hostage part.
I think he was too but ‘enjoyable’? That not the word I would have used having an experience like that. I wont question him since he was there but I do find it odd.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:32:39am |
re: #238 sattv4u2
Quick drive by kiddies
Doing the Snoopy Happy Dance here
Didn’t tell anyone (other than closest family/ friends) but I was being tested for prostate cancer
Results came back
ZERO
NADA
NEGATORYGuys. Get your PSA tested YEARLY!!
Hooray!
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Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:33:21am |
Gotta love that rational, reasonable dialogue from the right:
If there were ever a time to be planning a full-scale revolt against government tyranny, it has arrived.— Joseph Farah (@JosephFarah) January 18, 2013
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:33:35am |
re: #241 Killgore Trout
Hooray!
Yeah. Post kidney stone surgery the docs were like “oh,, by the way,,, we found,,,,,”
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kirkspencer Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:33:40am |
re: #232 lawhawk
The thinking is that by reducing the ammo holder size (whether clip or magazine), you force more reloads, so that the shooter could be overcome by LEOs or others who have chance to intervene.
Yep. Another factor that applies is the additional carry requirement (multiple magazines in pockets or cases). Rephrasing the more reloads, there are fewer shots between reloads. And despite the experienced gun folk showing how fast you can switch magazines, it’s both still a delay and not that fast for inexperienced users. (Oh, and the next time a pro shows you how fast he can reload, make him put the second magazine in an ammo pouch or other carry location. In other words, show what it’s like for a walking shooter instead of an advocate setting up a demo.)
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:34:38am |
re: #232 lawhawk
The thinking is that by reducing the ammo holder size (whether clip or magazine), you force more reloads, so that the shooter could be overcome by LEOs or others who have chance to intervene.
Which sort of addresses the miniscule percentage of shootings in which a magazine or revolver is actually emptied and LE is on the scene.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:34:48am |
re: #230 Dr Lizardo
Now that would be awesome.
If it were me, seeing as how I have an appreciation of the theatrical, as POTUS I’d walk in to “Hail to the Chief”, but when the State of the Union was over, I’d walk out to “Ave Satani”.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Obama should ask them to rename the song “Sig Heil to the Chief” just to fuck with everybody.
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Mattand Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:37:14am |
re: #238 sattv4u2
Quick drive by kiddies
Doing the Snoopy Happy Dance here
Didn’t tell anyone (other than closest family/ friends) but I was being tested for prostate cancer
Results came back
ZERO
NADA
NEGATORYGuys. Get your PSA tested YEARLY!!
Good news!
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Ghost of Tom Joad Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:37:17am |
re: #213 darthstar
Rapiscan….first thing I thought of considering what those machines did…was Rape-iscan. The jokes write themselves lately. All we need is a good delivery.
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Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:38:16am |
Top Senate Republican: On second thought, let’s not shut down government tpm.ly/1060O3z— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) January 18, 2013
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darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:38:19am |
re: #238 sattv4u2
Quick drive by kiddies
Doing the Snoopy Happy Dance here
Didn’t tell anyone (other than closest family/ friends) but I was being tested for prostate cancer
Results came back
ZERO
NADA
NEGATORYGuys. Get your PSA tested YEARLY!!
Good for you. Now stop going back for a retest every day…you’ll weird out your doctor.
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Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:39:11am |
re: #246 Ghost of Tom Joad
Obama should ask them to rename the song “Sig Heil to the Chief” just to fuck with everybody.
I’m sure someone has already photoshopped Obama into the Nuremberg rallies.
//
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:39:39am |
re: #250 darthstar
Good for you. Now stop going back for a retest every day…you’ll weird out your doctor.
Hey. I bring flowers and candy!!
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:40:32am |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:40:34am |
re: #250 darthstar
Good for you. Now stop going back for a retest every day…you’ll weird out your doctor.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:43:34am |
re: #239 Killgore Trout
It seems they are still holding some hostages.
There’s also this: Algeria attack may have link to Libya camps
The region is a mess and needs clean up urgently.
No doubt but which countries will be willing to do it?
Meanwhile the terrorists want a trade:
The Masked Brigade said that they would trade American hostages for two jihadi fighters jailed in the US - Aafia Siddiqui, of Pakistan, and 1993 World Trade Centre bomber Omar Abdel-Rahman, an Egyptian also known as the “blind sheikh”.
Yeah, good luck with that.
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dr. luba Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:44:05am |
Anyone know what’s become of Balloon Juice? It seems to have disappeared off the intertubes.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:44:53am |
re: #256 dr. luba
Anyone know what’s become of Balloon Juice? It seems to have disappeared off the intertubes.
Was there last night.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:46:55am |
re: #242 Lidane
It goes part and parcel with the NRA mainstreaming and mainlining of conspiracy theories about gun confiscation, Sandy Hook, and anti-Obama sentiment.
And it’s helped by a not insignificant dose of support and backing from the GOP who has made anti-Obama the core tenet of its policy objectives.
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Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:47:45am |
#LearnedAtGOPretreat Talking about rape is unpopular with most women.— Top Conservative Cat (@TeaPartyCat) January 18, 2013
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:47:57am |
re: #255 NJDhockeyfan
No doubt but which countries will be willing to do it?
Meanwhile the terrorists want a trade:
Yeah, good luck with that.
Thankfully the French are stepping up to the plate. We aren’t doing much aside from a bit of support but hopefully we’re going to be soon expanding our drone program in the area. A lot of these people should have been taken out long ago.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:48:22am |
re: #245 Decatur Deb
Well, there have been instances where shooters have had to reload or had gun jams and potential victims have overcome the shooter. They too benefit from any delay in firing caused by a reload.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:48:36am |
re: #256 dr. luba
Anyone know what’s become of Balloon Juice? It seems to have disappeared off the intertubes.
There’s a post up now, their registration ran out and John’s on vacation or something, so they’re trying to find his ass to call in the registration.
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wrenchwench Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:48:40am |
re: #256 dr. luba
Anyone know what’s become of Balloon Juice? It seems to have disappeared off the intertubes.
If you’re wondering what’s up with Balloon Juice, @johngcole forgot to re-register his domain name. We’re trying to fix it. Please hold.— Imani ABL (@AngryBlackLady) January 18, 2013
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dr. luba Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:49:24am |
re: #257 Decatur Deb
It was gone this morning…meaning sometime after midnight, when I checked. Thought it might be a glitch, but still seems to be off-line.
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dr. luba Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:49:57am |
re: #263 wrenchwench
Thanks. Now that sounds like the Cole we know and love!
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:50:22am |
re: #261 lawhawk
Well, there have been instances where shooters have had to reload or had gun jams and potential victims have overcome the shooter. They too benefit from any delay in firing caused by a reload.
Happens, but it’s the exception. We’re making law based on low-rate, high-outrage events and overlooking the day-to-day hemorrhage.
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gwangung Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:51:55am |
re: #266 Decatur Deb
Happens, but it’s the exception. We’re making law based on low-rate, high-outrage events and overlooking the day-to-day hemorrhage.
If it’s working your way in, from the the lower frequency events to the more common events, then that’s fine.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:53:29am |
re: #267 gwangung
If it’s working your way in, from the the lower frequency events to the more common events, then that’s fine.
Not if it uses up all the available energy and wrecks the progressives for another half-generation. I want the House by 2016.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:56:04am |
re: #268 Decatur Deb
Not if it uses up all the available energy and wrecks the progressives for another half-generation. I want the House by 2016.
Good luck. They’re gerrymandering the shit out of everything that isn’t nailed down and prying away at the rest with claw hammers. They could be as popular as dick fungus in 3 years and still hold onto the House by a small margin.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:56:14am |
re: #266 Decatur Deb
It’s what I’ve been saying for a while here. The mental health and background checks, plus registration moves are more likely to reduce gun violence (homicides, accidents, suicides, and firearms injuries) because they affect every firearm, not just those that make their way into high profile mass shooting incidents. Handguns are the most common cause of homicides and suicides. The AWB and ammo holder size limits don’t affect those, while the background checks, mental health actions, and licensing/registration could work to reduce violence relating to handguns.
And a side benefit would be reduced health care costs. That’s a win-win.
But then you get idiot lawmakers who think they’re being too clever by half:
Lawmakers introduce bill to exempt guns made in Michigan from federal regulation: tinyurl.com/bgf6rqe— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) January 18, 2013
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Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:57:05am |
re: #270 lawhawk
But then you get idiot lawmakers who think they’re being too clever by half:
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South Carolina is trying the same shit.
It’s like they don’t understand the Supremacy Clause. WTF.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:58:05am |
re: #270 lawhawk
Yup.
(There’s a similar bill in one of the Carolinas. Probably ALEC/NRA at work again.)
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Dr Lizardo Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:58:22am |
re: #246 Ghost of Tom Joad
Obama should ask them to rename the song “Sig Heil to the Chief” just to fuck with everybody.
He could just use this:
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 18, 2013 8:58:41am |
re: #271 Lidane
Well, as we saw with the House, they might have no problem reciting the US Constitution, but they hardly know what its provisions actually mean.
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Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:00:20am |
re: #274 lawhawk
Well, as we saw with the House, they might have no problem reciting the US Constitution, but they hardly know what its provisions actually mean.
Which is a problem when these are the people who are suposed to write our laws.
*sigh*
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Ghost of Tom Joad Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:01:07am |
NRA President blames Obama for death threats.
/breaks out the popcorn
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Dr Lizardo Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:01:15am |
re: #246 Ghost of Tom Joad
Obama should ask them to rename the song “Sig Heil to the Chief” just to fuck with everybody.
Ooops! Sort of got my marches mixed up. This is the one I meant.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:02:02am |
US doesn’t feel stakes in Mali ‘as intensely’ as France
The US has offered logistical support (airlift assistance, reinforced intelligence and supplies to French and African forces) to French operations in the country’s former colony. But it has made no decision yet as to whether it will provide surveillance drones or aerial refuelling for French jets, as requested by France. Furthermore, the authorities have said there are no plans to send in American troops.
….
France24.com spoke to Richard Downie, the deputy director of the Africa programme at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a bipartisan foreign policy think tank in Washington DC. Here are highlights from the interview.
It’s an enlightening interview, the first question explains why the US reaction has been so sluggish
France24.com: The US is cautious about getting involved in any military aspect of the situation in Mali. Why?
Richard Downie: The first thing to know is that the US has legal restrictions on support it can give to Mali directly. There is a law in the US that bars military assistance to countries where civilian governments have been toppled – like Mali, where the military coup last spring toppled president Touré. There is a transitional arrangement now, but the junta is still meddling in politics there. So the US is barred by its own legal restriction, which rules out supporting the Malian military directly.
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Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:04:36am |
That sound you hear is a bunch of Breitbart fans screeching:
Amazing how many people have photos of Andrew Breitbart as their twitters icons. What a sad personality cult.— Matt Yglesias (@mattyglesias) January 18, 2013
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Ghost of Tom Joad Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:04:37am |
re: #274 lawhawk
Well, as we saw with the House, they might have no problem reciting the US Constitution, but they hardly know what its provisions actually mean.
What’s worse isn’t that they don’t know what they mean, it’s that they think they do. Ask these tards about the Constitution and they act like they were sitting next to Jefferson while he penned the damn thing.
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Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:07:25am |
Those filthy librul peaceniks at West Point are about to get a flood of hate mail:
a West Point must-read: Challengers From the Sidelines: Understanding America’s Violent Far-Right; bit.ly/VOLdaH— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) January 18, 2013
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:07:54am |
Ugh
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk…]
Police fired tear gas to disperse hundreds of Muslim protesters trying to storm a Coptic Christian church in southern Egypt Friday, the Associated Press reports. The crowd gathered after word spread that a Christian man sexually assaulted a 6-year-old girl. Here’s AP:
Witnesses in Marashda village in the province of Qena said several shops and cars owned by Coptic Christians were torched overnight after Muslim villagers accused a merchant in his sixties of molesting the young girl.
Violence flared again after Friday prayers, with witnesses saying protesters surrounded the village’s central Abu Fam church, hurling stones and trying to storm it. Some climbed the church walls and destroyed a cross atop it. Police fired tear gas to scatter the crowd.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:08:15am |
re: #272 Decatur Deb
It’s not the NRA or ALEC, but appears to be a group entitled Firearms Freedom Act. The laws have been passed in quite a few states, and they’re a carbon copy for each.
A whois search finds that the site was registered by a Gary Marbut, who’s president of the Montana Shooting Sports Association.
There’s a writeup of his efforts to get this language enacted across the country, and Marbut thinks that it’s protected under the 10th. Go figure.
re: #271 Lidane
Critics said the bill, known as the “Michigan Firearms Freedom Act,” was a carbon copy of similar legislation filed in Missouri.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:10:49am |
re: #270 lawhawk
It’s what I’ve been saying for a while here. The mental health and background checks, plus registration moves are more likely to reduce gun violence (homicides, accidents, suicides, and firearms injuries) because they affect every firearm, not just those that make their way into high profile mass shooting incidents. Handguns are the most common cause of homicides and suicides. The AWB and ammo holder size limits don’t affect those, while the background checks, mental health actions, and licensing/registration could work to reduce violence relating to handguns.
And a side benefit would be reduced health care costs. That’s a win-win.
But then you get idiot lawmakers who think they’re being too clever by half:
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Oh great, I can’t wait to see all the Tweets in #TGDN about GM should make guns instead of cars.
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RadicalModerate Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:11:08am |
re: #276 Ghost of Tom Joad
NRA President blames Obama for death threats.
/breaks out the popcorn
Isn’t David Keene the guy whose own son was convicted a few years back for a gun-related violence incident?
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darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:11:18am |
re: #281 Lidane
Those filthy librul peaceniks at West Point are about to get a flood of hate mail:
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There’s a sentence on that page that allows wingnuts to dismiss the study as not about them.
It is important to note that this study concentrates on those individuals and groups who have actually perpetuated violence and is not a comprehensive analysis of the political causes with which some far-right extremists identify.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:12:27am |
Shocka!
UN nuclear watchdog, Iran fail again to reach deal
VIENNA, Jan 18 (Reuters) - U.N. inspectors and Iran failed again in talks this week to revive an investigation into suspected nuclear arms research by Tehran, a setback for diplomatic efforts to resolve the atomic dispute with the Islamic Republic peacefully.
Herman Nackaerts, deputy director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), said on Friday after returning from Tehran that his inspectors had not been granted the access they have long sought to a military site.
A further round of negotiations was scheduled for Feb. 12, he said, more than a year after the IAEA and Iran held their first in a series of so far largely fruitless meetings.
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makeitstop Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:13:11am |
re: #238 sattv4u2
Quick drive by kiddies
Doing the Snoopy Happy Dance here
Didn’t tell anyone (other than closest family/ friends) but I was being tested for prostate cancer
Results came back
ZERO
NADA
NEGATORYGuys. Get your PSA tested YEARLY!!
Good news, Satty. Good on ya, man.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:14:26am |
re: #285 RadicalModerate
Isn’t David Keene the guy whose own son was convicted a few years back for a gun-related violence incident?
Road rage IIRC, got 10 years.
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Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:16:30am |
Your daily dose of Bryan Fischer’s derp:
Fischer says including mental health services in Obama’s gun recommendations is an effort to make gun owners seem crazy bit.ly/Xj16Sp— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) January 18, 2013
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makeitstop Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:16:50am |
re: #256 dr. luba
Anyone know what’s become of Balloon Juice? It seems to have disappeared off the intertubes.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:17:14am |
re: #282 Killgore Trout
accused a merchant in his sixties of molesting the young girl.
Sickening, but unless the merchant was hiding from the authorities in the church there is no reason for
protesters trying to storm a Coptic Christian churchAnd even then,, no !!
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:17:48am |
The GOP establishment is trying to put the brakes on the crazy train:
“We will raise the debt ceiling. We’re not going to default on our debt,” Senate Minority Whip John Cornyn (R-TX) said in an interview with the Houston Chronicle editorial board published Thursday. “I will tell you unequivocally, we’re not going to default.”
But is it too little too late? Are we just going to see a bunch of primaries for the ones who aren’t willing to chuck the country down a hole to prove a point?
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:17:51am |
re: #291 makeitstop
There was a registration issue. They should be back up shortly.
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makeitstop Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:18:08am |
By way of explanation:
The balloon-juice.com domain name registration expired yesterday, and most of us can’t get to the site because the registrar turned off DNS resolution for [Link: www.balloon-juice.com…]
Those of you who can still reach the site are here because your ISP hasn’t updated its DNS cache, or because your browser has cached the DNS lookup of the site. At some point the cache will expire and you won’t be able to get to the site anymore.
For those of you who know what this means, the IP address of the server is 63.247.142.103. You can put an entry in your hosts file of
63.247.142.103 [Link: www.balloon-juice.com…]
and you’ll be able to get to the site that way.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:20:11am |
re: #294 Obdicut
I’m seeing stuff that the GOP is going to cobble together a deal for a couple of months, punting the issue down the road, but the real problem is that they’re not addressing the fact that the government already appropriated these funds in the first place. The GOP thinks that each successive round of debt ceiling will produce a different outcome than the last - when there’s no reason to believe otherwise.
Best option would be return to Gephardt rule - when Congress appropriates, it is a de facto increase in debt ceiling by amount to cover appropriations.
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Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:22:11am |
re: #266 Decatur Deb
Happens, but it’s the exception. We’re making law based on low-rate, high-outrage events and overlooking the day-to-day hemorrhage.
I think that what is happening here is the baby steps to begin some progress on the issues. Trying to jump-start things further along the path would stir up even more resistance than what we are seeing now. It’s a long-term game, but it’s also trying to buck years and years of political resistance to any sort of gun control legislation and on-going erosion of the ability to even properly enforce the existing laws.
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Eventual Carrion Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:22:42am |
re: #256 dr. luba
Anyone know what’s become of Balloon Juice? It seems to have disappeared off the intertubes.
Just checked, they are back.
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BongCrodny Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:22:50am |
As much as I applaud the entrepreneurial spirit, there’s gotta be a better way to make a buck.
The owner of the Mom & Pop shop up the street just got back from a weekend in Las Vegas.
He said he and his wife were walking the Strip, and there was a homeless guy advertising, I dunno, his business, I suppose.
The sign read: “Kick me in the balls for $20.”
Ow.
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Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:23:52am |
re: #272 Decatur Deb
Yup.
(There’s a similar bill in one of the Carolinas. Probably ALEC/NRA at work again.)
I pointed out that the “Citadel Plan” posted the other day included arms plants in the blueprint and that it was properly intended to legalize itself along the same lines.
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Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:24:27am |
re: #274 lawhawk
Well, as we saw with the House, they might have no problem reciting the US Constitution, but they hardly know what its provisions actually mean.
I’m sure David Barton can provide just the interpretation they want to have.
///
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wrenchwench Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:27:00am |
re: #300 BongCrodny
As much as I applaud the entrepreneurial spirit, there’s gotta be a better way to make a buck.
The owner of the Mom & Pop shop up the street just got back from a weekend in Las Vegas.
He said he and his wife were walking the Strip, and there was a homeless guy advertising, I dunno, his business, I suppose.
The sign read: “Kick me in the balls for $20.”
Ow.
Maybe it was a woman in drag. Still….
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:27:56am |
Video: Hostages of Algeria crisis speak of their ordeal bit.ly/Xkl3c3 | Live coverage bit.ly/USxxHN— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) January 18, 2013
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:28:29am |
re: #292 sattv4u2
accused a merchant in his sixties of molesting the young girl.
Sickening, but unless the merchant was hiding from the authorities in the church there is no reason for
protesters trying to storm a Coptic Christian churchAnd even then,, no !!
It looks more like the usual manufactured accusations to gin up religious strife
Egypt police fire tear gas preempting church attack in Qena
The church had already been raided at dawn and a number of shops in the Al-Marshada village were torched by Muslims who claimed that a 45-year-old Coptic shop owner sexually harassed the six year old.
However, a number of the villagers deny the accusations saying that the shop owner has been always friendly to the young girl and treated her as his own child.
Eyewitnesses further added that the false accusations were circulated by girl’s neighbours and not by her family.
Bishop Kirollos of Naga Hamadi told Al-Ahram Arabic language news website that the young girl has received a medical checkup and it was proven that she is still a virgin.
Kirollos added that the priests have handed the accused shop owner over to the police for his own protection as they feared he might be killed.
I really have serious doubts about Egypt’s future.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:28:51am |
re: #294 Obdicut
The GOP establishment is trying to put the brakes on the crazy train:
But is it too little too late? Are we just going to see a bunch of primaries for the ones who aren’t willing to chuck the country down a hole to prove a point?
If they caved and a true default happened, they might die in a primary or general election, even in a gerrymandered district. A conniving challenger during a primary will find a way to use whatever the previous representative did against them. A (conservative blue-dog type) Democratic challenger would do the same while holding firm on other conservative hot-button issues.
I think it was a lose/lose for them no matter what they did. I think this is one of those “keep the powder dry” moments. Keep a default from happening, which would be catastrophic on some levels, but continue to fight rabidly against every other issue (guns, abortion, healthcare etc.).
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:31:18am |
Amateur Australian prospector finds massive gold nugget
(Reuters) - An amateur Australian prospector who hadn’t had much luck searching for gold has struck it rich, unearthing a nugget heavier than a newborn baby and worth more than $300,000.
The anonymous prospector discovered the 5.5 kg (177 ounce) nugget near the country town of Ballarat and in an area known as the “Golden Triangle” due to its rich veins which sparked a gold rush in the 1850s.
The find came to light on Wednesday when the man walked into the Ballarat Mining Exchange Gold Shop and told owner Cordell Kent: “Mate, I found a good one”. He then revealed the nugget, adding that he had weighed it on the bathroom scales at home.
“It’s a substantial nugget,” Kent told Reuters.
The Y-shaped nugget, 22 centimeters (8.7 inches) long and 14 centimeters (5.5 inches) wide, was found by the prospector using an Australian-made gold detector.
“The intrinsic gold value is about A$286,000 ($301,100), but because it’s a natural raw specimen and they’re extremely rare it’s got a value far in excess of that,” Kent said.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:32:59am |
re: #300 BongCrodny
That reminded me of the movie “Idiocracy” and the show they had in it called “OW! My Balls!” about a guy who got nailed in the junk from being kicked or hit by various objects, including a wrecking ball IIRC.
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Gus Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:33:40am |
re: #305 Killgore Trout
It looks more like the usual manufactured accusations to gin up religious strife
Egypt police fire tear gas preempting church attack in QenaI really have serious doubts about Egypt’s future.
Good thing there’s no religious divisions in the USA. //
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Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:34:50am |
Cantor: “Next week, we will authorize a three month temporary debt limit increase…”— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) January 18, 2013
I’m fairly sure POTUS made it clear he’s not interested in having these conversations every few months.
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RadicalModerate Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:34:53am |
In the light of the “Obama=Hitler” rhetoric that the NRA-loving nuts are throwing around, maybe they’d like to explain this one?
Gun Appreciation Day Is Sponsored By A White Nationalist Party
Gun Appreciation Day, a prominent effort backed by conservative media outlets and activists to oppose new gun laws, has accepted the sponsorship of a white nationalist organization to promote and mobilize supporters for its January 19 event.
Gun Appreciation Day (GAD) is partnering with the American Third Position (A3P), a political group that describes itself as representing “the unique political interests of white Americans.” According to a party official, the organization is composed of “white nationalists.”
GAD’s organizers ask supporters to visit “gun stores, gun counters, gun shows, and gun ranges to protest the Obama administration’s post Sandy Hook assault on gun rights.” The event has received significant media coverage and promotion in recent days.
GAD lists A3P on its “sponsors” page along with its logo, motto (“Liberty. Sovereignty. Identity”) and a link to [ed:redacted]. Other sponsors include prominent conservative media outlets like RedState, the right-wing blog edited by CNN contributor Erick Erickson. The event’s main page asks visitors to “Please Support Our Sponsors.”
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Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:36:16am |
re: #310 Gus
Good thing there’s no religious divisions in the USA. //
You mean like this?
[Link: www.toledoblade.com…]
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:36:44am |
re: #310 Gus
Good thing there’s no religious divisions in the USA. //
Yup
Just came back from doing some errands and traffic was all tied up going by a Baptist Church with a crowd of Roman Catholics storming it!!
{sigh}
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darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:36:58am |
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:37:25am |
re: #301 Feline Fearless Leader
I pointed out that the “Citadel Plan” posted the other day included arms plants in the blueprint and that it was properly intended to legalize itself along the same lines.
There is some wild infighting going on between the Citadel threepers, the Sispsey Street threepers, and the American Redoubt survivalist group.
Moar popcorn, please.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:37:49am |
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darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:38:03am |
re: #311 Lidane
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I’m fairly sure POTUS made it clear he’s not interested in having these conversations every few months.
Cantor is a turd-eating moron.
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Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:38:14am |
re: #316 Decatur Deb
There is some wild infighting going on between the Citadel threepers, the Sispsey Street threepers, and the American Redoubt survivalist group.
Moar popcorn, please.
One big compound, nicknamed “Thunderdome”?
/
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darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:38:23am |
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Gus Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:38:59am |
re: #314 sattv4u2
Yup
Just came back from doing some errands and traffic was all tied up going by a Baptist Church with a crowd of Roman Catholics storming it!!
{sigh}
Well. If we ascribe a religion to a nation’s actions then why can’t we ascribe Christian values to America’s actions. Ergo, Christians invaded Iraq based on bogus intel about WMDs. :D Sigh, sigh. //
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:39:03am |
Ah well
Off to the airport to pick up Mrs Sattys friend. They haven’t seen each other in 15 years!
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:39:54am |
My 10 year old daughter told me last weekend “I love to watch things burn.”
Should I be worried?
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Gus Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:40:02am |
I forgot. It only counts when it’s Moozlims. I’m still opposed to the MB and Islamist rule. Just got to think about it more and stop pointing the finger as much. In my lifetime blacks had to sit in the back of the bus. Christian values and all that.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:40:28am |
re: #321 Gus
Well. If we ascribe a religion to a nation’s actions then why can’t we ascribe Christian values to America’s actions. Ero, Christian invaded Iraq based on bogus intel about WMDs. :D Sigh, sigh. //
he wasn’t
He was ascribing the actions of groups of “religious” people to the unraveling of a nation
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Ghost of Tom Joad Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:41:09am |
re: #323 NJDhockeyfan
My 10 year old daughter told me last weekend “I love to watch things burn.”
Should I be worried?
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darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:41:21am |
re: #323 NJDhockeyfan
My 10 year old daughter told me last weekend “I love to watch things burn.”
Should I be worried?
Maybe, but at least you don’t have to worry about her paternity.
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Gus Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:41:22am |
re: #325 sattv4u2
he wasn’t
He was ascribing the actions of groups of “religious” people to the unraveling of a nation
I know. He’s a Middle East expert with a minor in Egypt. //
| 329 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:41:42am |
re: #323 NJDhockeyfan
My 10 year old daughter told me last weekend “I love to watch things burn.”
Should I be worried?
Not until she ties you to a stake and places dried leaves and kindling around it
| 330 |
lawhawk Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:42:03am |
re: #320 darthstar
re: #322 sattv4u2
Male announcer: The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the red zone.
Female announcer: The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the red zone.
Male announcer: [later] The red zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the white zone.
Female announcer: No, the white zone is for loading of passengers and there is no stopping in a RED zone.
Male announcer: The red zone has always been for loading and unloading of passengers. There’s never stopping in a white zone.
Female announcer: Don’t you tell me which zone is for loading, and which zone is for stopping!
Male announcer: Listen Betty, don’t start up with your white zone shit again.
[Later]
Male announcer: There’s just no stopping in a white zone.
Female announcer: Oh really, Vernon? Why pretend, we both know perfectly well what this is about. You want me to have an abortion.
Male announcer: It’s really the only sensible thing to do, if its done safely. Therapeutically there’s no danger involved.
| 331 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:42:25am |
re: #328 Gus
I know. He’s a Middle East expert with a minor in Egypt. //
Yeah. Because thats exactly what her said
“as “Middle East expert with a minor in Egypt” this is what I decree”
| 332 |
Gus Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:43:13am |
re: #331 sattv4u2
Yeah. Because thats exactly what her said
“as “Middle East expert with a minor in Egypt” this is what I decree”
“Morningly.” //
| 333 |
darthstar Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:43:42am |
Pig rectum, anyone?
(Rectum? It killed him!)
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com…]
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:43:46am |
re: #323 NJDhockeyfan
My 10 year old daughter told me last weekend “I love to watch things burn.”
Should I be worried?
Here’s a play through of a neat little game that might interest her
Little Inferno Part 1
| 335 |
Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:44:16am |
re: #323 NJDhockeyfan
My 10 year old daughter told me last weekend “I love to watch things burn.”
Should I be worried?
If she wants to be a chemist, no. If a cook, yes.
| 336 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:44:45am |
re: #323 NJDhockeyfan
My 10 year old daughter told me last weekend “I love to watch things burn.”
Should I be worried?
Is this her?
| 337 |
Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:44:59am |
re: #335 Decatur Deb
If she wants to be a chemist, no. If a cook, yes.
The occasional flambe’ is allowed, no?
| 338 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:45:51am |
Alex Jones has identified the biggest danger to the country yet:
| 339 |
freetoken Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:46:06am |
More media conglomeration:
LIBERTY MEDIA TAKES MAJORITY HOLD OF SIRIUS XM
Liberty Media Corp. has bought enough shares in Sirius XM Radio Inc. to give it majority control of the satellite radio company.
Liberty, run by cable magnate John Malone, has been trying to take control of Sirius for some time. It disclosed in a regulatory filing Thursday that it bought 50 million common shares in Sirius. That was enough to give it a more than 50 percent stake in the New York company.
[…]
John Malone has his fingers on more things than even Rupert Murdoch, with whom he has worked to build News Corp into an international giant.
| 340 |
Ghost of Tom Joad Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:47:00am |
re: #339 freetoken
More media conglomeration:
LIBERTY MEDIA TAKES MAJORITY HOLD OF SIRIUS XM
John Malone has his fingers on more things than even Rupert Murdoch, with whom he has worked to build News Corp into an international giant.
Just as long as they leave my Octane alone, there won’t be any problems.
| 341 |
Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:47:11am |
re: #337 Feline Fearless Leader
The occasional flambe’ is allowed, no?
Trivia for the day: Flambe carts in Army clubs are required to mount a Class B or C fire extinguisher.
| 342 |
Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:47:20am |
re: #336 Our Precious Bodily Fluids
Is this her?
“If the store is called “Sears”, why isn’t it on fire?”
/ ;)
| 343 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:48:26am |
re: #339 freetoken
More media conglomeration:
LIBERTY MEDIA TAKES MAJORITY HOLD OF SIRIUS XM
John Malone has his fingers on more things than even Rupert Murdoch, with whom he has worked to build News Corp into an international giant.
I’ve had Sirius XM for years and fully support any change in management. The company has been horribly and stupidly mismanaged for a very long time. It could be a great product if the company was run better.
| 344 |
Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:49:25am |
re: #341 Decatur Deb
Trivia for the day: Flambe carts in Army clubs are required to mount a Class B or C fire extinguisher.
I presume Army manuals on cooking in the field probably have sections explaining the user of flamethrowers or C4 for cooking.
(IIRC, without a detonator you can simply set C4 on fire and it will burn and not explode.)
| 345 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:50:33am |
re: #336 Our Precious Bodily Fluids
Is this her?
More like this but enjoys burning leaves instead of flowers.
| 346 |
Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:51:09am |
re: #344 Feline Fearless Leader
I presume Army manuals on cooking in the field probably have sections explaining the user of flamethrowers or C4 for cooking.
(IIRC, without a detonator you can simply set C4 on fire and it will burn and not explode.)
I’ve watched it done (1/2 inch cube) to heat a canteen cup, but I still wanted to punch the idiot out.
| 347 |
Gus Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:52:46am |
Whoa…
New study by West Point’s Combating Terrorism Center highlights threat from far right-wing groups in U.S.bit.ly/XJAuN1— TheRittenbergReport (@TheRReport) January 18, 2013
West Point! Cue the splodely heads.
| 348 |
freetoken Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:56:00am |
The gun culture runs very deeply in this country:
President Obama’s gun proposals ignore ‘real issues,’ Kent County Sheriff Larry Stelma says
The gun-control debate sparked testy rhetoric this week, and some law enforcement leaders in Michigan and beyond haven’t been shy about saying they won’t enforce tougher laws aimed at assault-style weapons.
West Michigan sheriffs are trying to cut through the bluster. When it comes to gun violence, they think the national debate is missing the bigger picture.
“I am sick and tired of both sides,” said Kent County Sheriff Larry Stelma. “People are trying to gin up emotional attention to issues. Quite frankly, none of it solves the problem.”
In Northern Michigan, Benzie County Sheriff Ted Schendel is among sheriffs across the U.S. who say they would not enforce new gun restrictions, such as an assault-weapon ban, proposed by President Barack Obama.
He told UpNorthLive.com that Obama is trying to “limit or circumvent the Second Amendment by restricting assault-style weapons and 30-round magazines.
“I took an oath of office to uphold and defend the Constitution. Any law that the federal government passes which circumvents our Second Amendment, I will not abide by, and I will not enforce,” he told UpNorthLive.com
Jackson County, Ky., Sheriff Denny Peyman told NBC News: “Kentucky is a sovereign state. … The federal government is coming in and saying, ‘This is what you’re going to do.’ We’re not going to do it.”
Stelma says the debate spurred by Obama’s gun-control proposals misses the bigger picture. It takes the focus away from areas that could bring real change: mental-health treatment, stronger families and eliminating children’s exposure to violence in video games and other media.
“This hype is just a bunch of nonsense,” Stelma said Thursday, Jan. 17.
Stelma said federal agents enforce federal laws, while local and state officers enforce state laws. He said any changes would not affect the way his deputies conduct their business.
[…]
Ottawa County Sheriff Gary Rosema agreed with Stelma: “The big issue is, mental-health reform is needed.”
[…]
It’s going to be a tough haul for the President to enact even the meek proposals he’s stated.
| 349 |
Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:56:04am |
re: #333 darthstar
Pig rectum, anyone?
(Rectum? It killed him!)[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com…]
I don’t like calamari anyway, so it’s no loss to me.
| 350 |
Mattand Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:56:14am |
re: #330 lawhawk
re: #322 sattv4u2
Male announcer: The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the red zone.
Female announcer: The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the red zone.
Male announcer: [later] The red zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the white zone.
Female announcer: No, the white zone is for loading of passengers and there is no stopping in a RED zone.
Male announcer: The red zone has always been for loading and unloading of passengers. There’s never stopping in a white zone.
Female announcer: Don’t you tell me which zone is for loading, and which zone is for stopping!
Male announcer: Listen Betty, don’t start up with your white zone shit again.
[Later]
Male announcer: There’s just no stopping in a white zone.
Female announcer: Oh really, Vernon? Why pretend, we both know perfectly well what this is about. You want me to have an abortion.
Male announcer: It’s really the only sensible thing to do, if its done safely. Therapeutically there’s no danger involved.
You know what really sucks? That movie is approaching 33 years old.
| 351 |
Gus Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:57:46am |
re: #348 freetoken
The gun culture runs very deeply in this country:
President Obama’s gun proposals ignore ‘real issues,’ Kent County Sheriff Larry Stelma says
It’s going to be a tough haul for the President to enact even the meek proposals he’s stated.
I iz a sovereign sheriff.
| 352 |
b_sharp Fri, Jan 18, 2013 9:58:08am |
re: #345 NJDhockeyfan
More like this but enjoys burning leaves instead of flowers.
As a kid I used to burn ants and set fires with my magnifying lenses. I also used to start fires with wooden matches or the sulphur scraped from the end.
One day One of my younger brothers and I set fire to small areas of weeds while the other two siblings stomped them out. We got to the back of our fence where there was a large area of weeds, and wanting to test the abilities of our two youngest brothers (6 and 5) Rick and I lit multiple areas of the patch. If Rick and I hadn’t helped them out the fence would have gone up in flames.
| 353 |
Gus Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:01:07am |
re: #352 b_sharp
As a kid I used to burn ants and set fires with my magnifying lenses. I also used to start fires with wooden matches or the sulphur scraped from the end.
One day One of my younger brothers and I set fire to small areas of weeds while the other two siblings stomped them out. We got to the back of our fence where there was a large area of weeds, and wanting to test the abilities of our two youngest brothers (6 and 5) Rick and I lit multiple areas of the patch. If Rick and I hadn’t helped them out the fence would have gone up in flames.
Alcohol [x]
Plastic airplane model [x]
Bugs [x]
Matches [x]
| 354 |
CuriousLurker Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:01:35am |
re: #345 NJDhockeyfan
More like this but enjoys burning leaves instead of flowers.
I wouldn’t be worried unless she has other behavior issues. Fire can be beautiful, almost hypnotic. It’s a fascinating element, perhaps because of it’s dual nature of being something that can both help & destroy.
I used to do the leaf & magnifying glass thing as a kid—it’s totally cool how that works. As long as she’s old enough to know she needs to be very careful, personally, I’d be pleased to see that she has a healthy, natural curiosity about how things work.
| 355 |
Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:01:39am |
re: #323 NJDhockeyfan
My 10 year old daughter told me last weekend “I love to watch things burn.”
Should I be worried?
I was watching the women’s winter biathalon with my daughter, who was two years old at the time, when she uttered her first complete, grammatically correct sentence: “I want a gun!”
To which I repled, “You’ll have to learn to ski first.”
| 356 |
jaunte Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:02:54am |
GOP settles on paying bills already incurred for three-months, then fighting about it some more.
[Link: firstread.nbcnews.com…]
| 357 |
Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:03:10am |
Heh.
Box with some computer stuff came in from CDW.
On bottom of box printed in 1” high red letters it says, “OUCH! Flip me over.”
:)
| 358 |
Gus Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:04:04am |
Behold, the reporters who falsely claimed that “Obama signed 23 executive orders” this week slate.me/11EEgvQ— daveweigel (@daveweigel) January 18, 2013
No way? Really? :O
| 359 |
Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:04:41am |
re: #348 freetoken
The gun culture runs very deeply in this country:
President Obama’s gun proposals ignore ‘real issues,’ Kent County Sheriff Larry Stelma says
It’s going to be a tough haul for the President to enact even the meek proposals he’s stated.
Add sheriffs in Colorado and Idaho, according to Freep.
| 360 |
freetoken Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:04:42am |
A lot of scaremongering out there today about genetic testing:
Fetal Genome Screening Could Prove Tragic
And then this bit of research:
Identifying Personal Genomes by Surname Inference
PR: [Link: www.eurekalert.org…]
is being covered widely:
[Link: www.latimes.com…]
[Link: www.bloomberg.com…]
[Link: www.nature.com…]
[Link: www.the-scientist.com…]
| 361 |
Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:04:47am |
| 362 |
Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:05:07am |
re: #356 jaunte
GOP settles on paying bills already incurred for three-months, then fighting about it some more.
[Link: firstread.nbcnews.com…]
MORONS. All of them.
Obama already said he wasn’t in the mood to have these conversations in piecemeal. He’s not going to sign off on something just for three months only to have to deal with this shit again.
| 363 |
freetoken Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:05:25am |
re: #359 Decatur Deb
What are all these sheriffs going to do when the USSC rules the regulations constitutional.
| 364 |
wrenchwench Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:06:06am |
re: #358 Gus
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No way? Really? :O
From Weigel’s piece:
And also: Me. For a while on Wednesday, I referred to Obama’s “executive orders,” printing the list of actions in full, but muffing the terminology. Why did all of us do that? You know, I think the pre-game panic about the very idea of Obama “signing executive orders” — I think that got into our heads.
He’s a weird dude.
| 365 |
b_sharp Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:06:07am |
re: #353 Gus
Alcohol [x]
Plastic airplane model [x]
Bugs [x]
Matches [x]
I had an alcohol lamp I used to ‘ice’ the ceilings of our snow forts.
| 366 |
freetoken Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:06:27am |
This is America: We’re afraid to let you test your DNA, but you can have all the .50 caliber assault rifles you want.
| 367 |
Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:07:16am |
Wheee!
‘Firearms instructor’ hired as school guard leaves handgun in student bathroom
But really— we should put more armed civilains in schools.
| 368 |
lawhawk Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:07:18am |
re: #363 freetoken
The Supreme Court has already ruled that firearms regulations are constitutional. Heller reaffirmed that very right. Per Scalia:
“nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.”
| 369 |
Obdicut Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:07:41am |
re: #343 Killgore Trout
I’ve had Sirius XM for years and fully support any change in management. The company has been horribly and stupidly mismanaged for a very long time. It could be a great product if the company was run better.
Blindly supporting change for the sake of change is as stupid as blindly being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.
Media conglomeration is a very bad thing for the US, and a bad thing for the expression of speech— which is something you pretend to hold dear.
| 370 |
Gus Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:07:48am |
re: #364 wrenchwench
From Weigel’s piece:
He’s a weird dude.
He is. That’s why I only see him when he’s re-Tweeted by people I follow. :D
| 371 |
Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:07:52am |
re: #363 freetoken
What are all these sheriffs going to do when the USSC rules the regulations constitutional.
Mind their own business and enforce local law, leaving firearms control to the pros.
| 372 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:08:03am |
re: #352 b_sharp
As a kid I used to burn ants and set fires with my magnifying lenses. I also used to start fires with wooden matches or the sulphur scraped from the end.
One day One of my younger brothers and I set fire to small areas of weeds while the other two siblings stomped them out. We got to the back of our fence where there was a large area of weeds, and wanting to test the abilities of our two youngest brothers (6 and 5) Rick and I lit multiple areas of the patch. If Rick and I hadn’t helped them out the fence would have gone up in flames.
What kid hasn’t burned stuff with a magnifying glass? I’m OK with it until she starts setting the trash cans in the house on fire.
| 373 |
Gus Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:08:40am |
re: #366 freetoken
This is America: We’re afraid to let you test your DNA, but you can have all the .50 caliber assault rifles you want.
But Egypt. //
| 374 |
Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:09:58am |
| 375 |
Gus Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:11:10am |
re: #365 b_sharp
I had an alcohol lamp I used to ‘ice’ the ceilings of our snow forts.
Lysol/flame thrower. No, I’m not into fires. Back in the day this is what kids used to do.
| 376 |
Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:11:18am |
.@senrandpaul is very brave to come out for the nullification of 23 executive orders that don’t exist: slate.com/blogs/weigel/2…— Joe Sonka (@joesonka) January 18, 2013
| 377 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:12:14am |
BREAKING: State Department confirms Americans still being held hostage in Algeria.— The Associated Press (@AP) January 18, 2013
| 378 |
Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:13:19am |
NRA President: “A harpoon, much like a rifle, is a tool used primarily for hunting. You see the point, yes?” onion.com/SWgBVh— The Onion (@TheOnion) January 18, 2013
| 379 |
Obdicut Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:13:21am |
re: #377 Killgore Trout
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Welcome to the next GOP conspiracy. I wonder whose appointment they’ll try to hold up over this one?
| 380 |
Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:15:36am |
re: #375 Gus
Lysol/flame thrower. No, I’m not into fires. Back in the day this is what kids used to do.
WD40 as well. The bane of the plastic armyman.
| 381 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:16:09am |
| 382 |
Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:16:45am |
House GOP’s new debt limit strategy: Force Dems to pass a budget tpm.ly/106lb0v— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) January 18, 2013
Remind me again who the majority party in the House is?
Fucking cowards.
| 383 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:20:24am |
re: #381 NJDhockeyfan
Do they know how many?
I’m not sure. There were only a few Americans there and I think at least 2 have been freed. I’m not sure if anyone’s done the math to see how many Americans remain.
| 384 |
CuriousLurker Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:20:52am |
re: #381 NJDhockeyfan
Do they know how many?
I read an article about 30 minutes ago that said they weren’t saying as they didn’t want to help the bad guys with info (they believe some people could be hiding).
| 385 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:22:58am |
re: #383 Killgore Trout
I’m not sure. There were only a few Americans there and I think at least 2 have been freed. I’m not sure if anyone’s done the math to see how many Americans remain.
I heard 7 initially yesterday but the hostage numbers seem to change by the hour.
| 386 |
Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:23:56am |
re: #347 Gus
Whoa…
[Embedded content]
West Point! Cue the splodely heads.
Freep has found it good to withdraw its thread on this.
| 387 |
b_sharp Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:24:24am |
re: #375 Gus
Lysol/flame thrower. No, I’m not into fires. Back in the day this is what kids used to do.
Back in the day we were free to explore everything, including a few dangerous ideas.
| 388 |
b_sharp Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:26:16am |
re: #386 Decatur Deb
Freep has found it good to withdraw its thread on this.
I can smell the burning of raw, unused grey cells in the wind.
| 389 |
Lidane Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:30:18am |
re: #386 Decatur Deb
Freep has found it good to withdraw its thread on this.
If Freep had to withdraw a thread I can only imagine how unhinged it got.
| 390 |
CuriousLurker Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:30:53am |
re: #384 CuriousLurker
Based on the way POTUS has been going after terrorists, I’m guessing the bad guys in Algeria can take this to the bank:
U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said those responsible would be hunted down: “Terrorists should be on notice that they will find no sanctuary, no refuge, not in Algeria, not in North Africa, not anywhere,” he said in London. “Those who would wantonly attack our country and our people will have no place to hide.”
| 391 |
Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:32:33am |
re: #389 Lidane
If Freep had to withdraw a thread I can only imagine how unhinged it got.
If they expect the military to join the revolution than they have to be careful of how an article involving West Point is treated.
| 392 |
Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:36:01am |
re: #389 Lidane
If Freep had to withdraw a thread I can only imagine how unhinged it got.
re: #391 Feline Fearless Leader
If they expect the military to join the revolution than they have to be careful of how an article involving West Point is treated.
It had a handful of comments when I scanned it—one saying the marxists were conditioning the new generation of commanders to turn on their people.
| 393 |
makeitstop Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:41:22am |
re: #339 freetoken
More media conglomeration:
LIBERTY MEDIA TAKES MAJORITY HOLD OF SIRIUS XM
John Malone has his fingers on more things than even Rupert Murdoch, with whom he has worked to build News Corp into an international giant.
The word ‘Liberty’ in the company name is mildly disconcerting. Force of habit.
| 394 |
Political Atheist Fri, Jan 18, 2013 6:58:46pm |
re: #177 William Barnett-Lewis
They still have a problem with tube magazines. The only exception is for .22 so a currently made .30-30 would be illegal (my Winchester holds 8). I’m still not sure how going from 10 round to 7 makes anyone safer anyway…
I’ll wait to comment then.
| 395 |
Danack Fri, Jan 18, 2013 10:38:41pm |
Do I win a prize?
re: #257 Danack
Part of the reason why he is ‘confessing’ is he hopes to have his ban lifted:
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