Live Video: Hillary Clinton Testifies at House Hearing on Benghazi Fake Scandal

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The idiotfest in Washington DC continues, as House Republicans posture and spout Fox News talking points at Hillary Clinton some more.

If the Republican Benghazi boogaloo seems to make no sense, it’s because they don’t want to come right out and say what’s underneath all of this nonsense, since they’re dimly aware it will make them look like real lunatics.

But back during the presidential campaign, Mitt Romney stated the true agenda on the very first night of the Benghazi incident, when he accused President Obama of “sympathizing with the attackers.” It’s the same old “black President is a secret America-hating radical” conspiracy theory, in yet another disguise.

That’s what’s behind the Fox News/right wing propaganda effort, and you can easily find right wing bloggers who say this outright — even if GOP politicians now make a cursory effort to hide it.

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193 comments
1 dragonfire1981  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:15:59am

Reposting from downstairs because this needs to be seen:

MS Reverend encourages people to touch dead fetus in abortion protest

2 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:17:40am

Who ordered the Code Red!?

3 Randall Gross  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:17:42am

It’s so funny that this is still carrying on when it was originally drummed up just to disguise some of the Romneyderp that helped him lose an election that was his to win.

4 Kragar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:18:08am

I can easily imagine one tiny car driving up this morning and all the GOP congressmen getting out of it.

5 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:18:14am

re: #3 Randall Gross

The derp cannot be stopped.

6 jaunte  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:19:27am

Too late for Romney/2012, it’ll have to be the first outrage for Paul/2016.

7 Kragar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:19:52am

re: #5 Bulworth

The derp cannot be stopped.

DID YOU ORDER THE CODE DERP?

8 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:20:26am

I hope Louie Gohmert is going to ask questions. I always look forward to Louie.

9 Randall Gross  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:20:53am

re: #5 Bulworth

The derp cannot be stopped.

E=D(erp)C2 derpnertia

10 erik_t  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:21:11am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

I hope Louie Gohmert is going to ask questions. I always look forward to Louie.

That man is dunce enough to wear the entire Capitol dome as his helmet.

11 Kragar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:21:29am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

I hope Louie Gohmert is going to ask questions. I always look forward to Louie.

“Did the orders for you to stand down in Benghazi come from Agenda 21?”

12 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:23:13am
13 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:23:21am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

I hope Louie Gohmert is going to ask questions. I always look forward to Louie.

It makes me soooo proud that the stupidest people in Congress come from my home state.

/dripping sarcasm

14 jaunte  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:24:18am

re: #13 RadicalModerate

I feel your pain.

15 JRCMYP  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:24:58am

I understand just how Hillary feels. I get that tone of voice when I’m talking to my three children.

16 Kragar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:25:44am

Fox News Can’t Decide If It’s OK To Call Someone Hitler

Since the Newtown, Conn., school shooting, Fox guests have been among the loudest voices saying that any new restrictions will decimate the Second Amendment and lead to government oppression not seen since Hitler, Mao or Stalin.

None summed it up it better than host Sean Hannity, who said last week: “We don’t talk a lot about — what were the intentions of our founders and framers? And we have Stalin, um, we have Hitler, we have countries, tyrannical. They talked a lot about that.”

Then stepped up Bob Schieffer.

Speaking on a special Jan. 16 edition of CBS News, the host said this of the obstacles to passing legislation: “Surely passing civil rights legislation, as Lyndon Johnson was able to do, and before that, surely defeating the Nazis was a much more formidable task than taking on the gun lobby.”

Heads on Fox started to fizz. When Hannity played the clip on his show, he followed it up with a clip from Rush Limbaugh, who asked: “Is there room for that in our discourse today?” Limbaugh called it “over-the-top defamation.”

17 DREd  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:26:01am

Why haven’t they held any hearings about the agenda 21 threat yet? Those would be fantastic

18 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:26:12am

What right wing sexism?

19 darthstar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:27:10am

Republicans are learning the hard way that they can’t fuck with Hillary. My respect for her grows with every response she makes. I don’t think President Obama could have picked a better SoS for his first term.

20 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:28:04am

re: #15 JRCMYP

I understand just how Hillary feels. I get that tone of voice when I’m talking to my three children.

I’d be willing to bet that your children are more than likely intellectually aware. Can’t say that’s the case with Congressional Republicans, who require conversations with small, single-syllable words.

21 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:28:17am

re: #17 DREd

Why haven’t they held any hearings about the agenda 21 threat yet? Those would be fantastic

Agenda 21? I know nothing .

/SEE PROOF IT EXISTS!

22 Gus  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:28:45am

Ed Royce

Born in Los Angeles, California, and graduating from Katella High School in Anaheim, Royce went on to earn his B.A. in Accounting and Finance in 1977 from the California State University, Fullerton. It took seven years for Royce to graduate, during which Royce took at least one student deferment to avoid going to the controversial Vietnam War. He was a business owner and corporate tax manager for a Portland cement company before becoming a California State Senator in 1983, serving in that post until his election to the U.S. House of Representatives. Royce is married to the former Marie Porter.

…

Royce was criticized for attending an anti-Muslim rally in his home county, in which members of anti-Muslim groups supported by Royce chanted at Muslim-American families attending a charity event that they should “go home.” Royce replied that the anti-Muslim chants were done by a splinter group, not the main group of protesters, and he disavowed the chants, saying “those remarks and conduct were disrespectful and offensive”.

23 JRCMYP  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:30:43am

re: #20 RadicalModerate

I’d be willing to bet that your children are more than likely intellectually aware. Can’t say that’s the case with Congressional Republicans, who require conversations with small, single-syllable words.

In their defense, my children generally have more respect for adults. But being ages 7, 9 and 11 puts them on the higher end of the Congressional Intelligence Spectrum (CIS). Potentially off the charts.

//

24 Randall Gross  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:30:43am
Youtube Video
25 Gus  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:31:16am
26 jaunte  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:31:17am

re: #22 Gus

Ed Royce:

2011 The John Birch Society - Positions (Summer-Fall) 80%
2011 The John Birch Society - Positions (Spring-Summer) 90%
2010 The John Birch Society - Positions (May 2010 - September 2010) 90%
2009 The John Birch Society - Positions (June 2009 - November 2009) 100%
2009 The John Birch Society - Positions (Full Year) 95%
[Link: votesmart.org…]

27 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:31:39am

re: #22 Gus

Ed Royce

…

Seven years for a BA in Accounting? Did he need remedial math or something? Most business majors take 5-6 years max to get their MBA.

28 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:34:29am

re: #27 RadicalModerate

AcCounting is hard when you can only use fingers and toes. /

29 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:35:51am

re: #27 RadicalModerate

Seriously though, it looks like he stretched out his college years to avoid military service (deferment included).

30 Kragar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:36:10am

The further adventures of Congressman Lankford. When last we saw our plucky hero, he was blaming gun violence on Welfare Moms. Lets see what wacky hijinks he’s up to now:

Republican House Leader Vows To Use ‘Power Of Humiliation’ To Undermine LGBT Program

The fifth-ranking House Republican took a shot at the LGBT community at a recent town hall, saying he wanted to use “the power of humiliation” to undermine a program that helps individuals who need substance abuse treatment.

Rep. James Lankford (R-OK), who at the same Oklahoma City meeting earlier this month blamed gun violence on “welfare moms”, took a question from a constituent irate about a program that counseled LGBT individuals with substance abuse problems. The woman accused the Substances and Mental Health Services Administration of “pushing the homosexual agenda” and “indoctrinating our citizens.”

Lankford agreed with the woman’s concern, vowing to open an investigation into the matter. “They love functioning in the dark,” the Oklahoma Republican said of the LGBT program, promising to use “the power of humiliation” to uproot it.

31 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:36:44am
32 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:37:21am

Sock puppet.

33 darthstar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:37:41am

re: #27 RadicalModerate

Seven years for a BA in Accounting? Did he need remedial math or something? Most business majors take 5-6 years max to get their MBA.

I took a few extra years to get my BA…I attribute that to my heavy use of recreational substances during my first four years of college…funny, once I cleaned my shit up and started actually reading the material and participating in class, I became an A student.

I suspect he had a similar experience…no shame in that, but good luck getting him to admit it.

34 Lidane  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:37:56am

re: #27 RadicalModerate

Seven years for a BA in Accounting? Did he need remedial math or something? Most business majors take 5-6 years max to get their MBA.

I got my MBA in two years, but that was with a highly accelerated course load.

35 darthstar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:38:39am

re: #30 Kragar

The further adventures of Congressman Lankford. When last we saw our plucky hero, he was blaming gun violence on Welfare Moms. Lets see what wacky hijinks he’s up to now:

Republican House Leader Vows To Use ‘Power Of Humiliation’ To Undermine LGBT Program

So he’s going to start calling LGBT people names? How third grade mentality of him.

36 DREd  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:38:48am

There’s a woman behind Hillary wrapped in a blanket. WHAT IS SHE TRYING TO HIDE?

37 darthstar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:39:40am

re: #36 DREd

There’s a woman behind Hillary wrapped in a blanket. WHAT IS SHE TRYING TO HIDE?

Maybe she’s breast-feeding BENGHAZI!

38 Petero1818  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:39:54am

re: #18 Vicious Babushka

What right wing sexism?

2 things come to mind:
1. With the name Moldy Old Ogre I have a hard time believing that he has never wanted to bitch slap anyone.
2.. AS I watched Rand Paul masturbate on stage I was hoping Clinton was going to bitch slap him.

39 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:39:57am
a constituent irate about a program that counseled LGBT individuals with substance abuse problems. The woman accused the Substances and Mental Health Services Administration of “pushing the homosexual agenda” and “indoctrinating our citizens.”

I’ve been wondering how I got so indoctrinated by the LGBT’s. Now I know. ////

40 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:41:37am

Well, at least the House committee is allowing Sec. Clinton to talk. Then again, I don’t think any House Republicans have started questioning yet.

41 jaunte  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:43:06am

02/14/2011:

Secretary Clinton: House Republican budget cuts will endanger national security

“…Clinton also said that it was “somewhat frustrating” that funding for the work done by State and USAID is not classified as “security” spending despite the national security implications of that work. She added that Boehner acknowledged that Defense Department officials are among the “strongest supporters” of the State Department and USAID.

“Our strongest supporters, as the speaker mentioned to me, are the leaders of our military and our Defense Department; Secretary Gates, Admiral Mullen, General Cartwright and so many others,” Clinton said. “Why? Because they understand that if we don’t have a robust civilian presence in these frontline states, we cannot make the progress that we are seeking. … Our colleagues in the Defense Department have been our strongest supporters, and the speaker is well aware of that.”

A Boehner spokesperson reiterated House Republicans’ commitment to reducing spending and expressed confidence that members of the military and civilians working abroad will have the resources necessary to do their jobs.”

42 Randall Gross  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:44:15am

WND ads asking “should Obama be Impeached” are now popping up in the videos one post down. This is how they turn the death of four Americans into a cash trolling expedition.

43 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:44:17am

This is the FAIL of the Day


He never heard of these veterans I guess. ALLIES of the USA

44 Kragar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:45:22am

Suddenly, from out of right field… WHAMMY!!!

Catholic leaders call on ‘pro-life’ lawmakers to ‘stand up to the NRA’

… lawmakers who claim to represent family values should also “show greater moral leadership and political courage when it comes to confronting threats to the sanctity of life posed by easy access to military-style assault weapons and high capacity magazines.”

“Members of Congress who take pride in their pro-life stance and appeal to family values have no excuse for inaction, and neither do any of us who share a firm commitment to these values,” the group writes. “We especially encourage our fellow Catholics in Congress, including prominent leaders such as House Speaker John Boehner, to stand up to the National Rifle Association and other gun lobbyists who choose to obstruct sensible reforms.”

45 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:46:17am

re: #41 jaunte

Next at Fox Nation: Why are Liberals Politicizing the Benghazi attacks?

46 Kragar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:46:32am

re: #43 Vicious Babushka

This is the FAIL of the Day


He never heard of these veterans I guess. ALLIES of the USA

I’m a Veteran. I never fought for capitalism or Jesus.

47 kirkspencer  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:47:15am

re: #43 Vicious Babushka

This is the FAIL of the Day


He never heard of these veterans I guess. ALLIES of the USA

And all us liberal vets are just figments of the imagination. Or frauds. Or something besides, well, veterans who are liberals.

48 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:47:30am

re: #45 Bulworth

Next at Fox Nation: Why are Liberals Politicizing the Benghazi attacks?

Fox News: We distort, you deride!

49 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:47:43am

re: #46 Kragar

But that’s different. You fought for Crom. /

50 jaunte  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:48:00am

re: #45 Bulworth

Next at Fox Nation: Why are Liberals Politicizing the Benghazi attacks?

51 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:48:01am

re: #47 kirkspencer

And all us liberal vets are just figments of the imagination. Or frauds. Or something besides, well, veterans who are liberals.

YURR A TRAYTER!1!

52 kirkspencer  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:48:32am

re: #48 Shiplord Kirel

Fox News: We distort, you deride!

Is this like the times you see (D) after some Republican congresscritters who’ve gone oopsie?

53 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:48:51am

This is just sickening.

54 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:49:54am

re: #53 Vicious Babushka

This is just sickening.

Stay classy, teabaggers

55 erik_t  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:49:55am

re: #53 Vicious Babushka

Not a lemming?

I beg to differ.

56 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:53:39am
57 Kragar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:54:39am

re: #56 Charles Johnson

But enough about the GOP response to the attack.

58 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:54:59am

@zippyelf <==== This guy has the creepiest TL I have ever seen on #TGDN. Pedo creepy.

59 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:55:41am

re: #56 Charles Johnson

Oh, the butthurt is strong with this one. Getting TOLD in front of a national audience is gonna ruin his month.

60 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:56:28am

Jonathan Identifies Source of Terrorism Financing

Speaking on the theme “De-Risking Africa” as one of the panelists at an interactive session of the World Economic Forum taking palce in Davos, Switzerland, President Jonathan said terrorism was also the outcome of the Libyan crises, noting that terrorists will always want to instigate crises because of the money they make out of it.

He, however, appealed that Africa needed the cooperation and support of the International community to deal with terrorism.

You can watch the entire Davos panel here
WEF Debate: De-Risking Africa - Part 1

Youtube Video
61 jaunte  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:57:36am

Chris Smith, New Jersey

2011 The John Birch Society - Positions (Spring-Summer) 70%
2011 The John Birch Society - Positions (Summer-Fall) 70%
2009-2010 The John Birch Society - Positions (Full Session) 55%
2009-2010 The John Birch Society - Positions (November 2009 - June 2010) 80%

[Link: votesmart.org…]

[Link: rationalwiki.org…]

62 Kragar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:58:05am

re: #58 Vicious Babushka

@zippyelf <==== This guy has the creepiest TL I have ever seen on #TGDN. Pedo creepy.

I’m leery of the Born Again Christian adoption strategy.

63 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:59:28am

re: #62 Kragar

I’m leery of the Born Again Christian adoption strategy.

Why is he posting pictures of kids (even if they are “his” kids) to #TGDN, this ain’t a personal family Facebook wall.

64 andres  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:00:14pm

re: #18 Vicious Babushka

What right wing sexism?

Does he really want to throw his life away like that? I don’t think there’s anyone, dead or alive, who could stay alive while trying to put a finger on Hillary Clinton.

65 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:00:38pm

re: #62 Kragar

I’m leery of the Born Again Christian adoption strategy.

I’m leery of the whole “Born-Again” thingie. Have been since it was once (perhaps incorrectly) explained to me by a friend that since she’d got right with Jesus, now she could do anything she wanted. Even murder, because Jesus had washed away all her sins, past, present and future.

I somehow think it doesn’t work that way. You know……”go and sin no more”, that whole schtick.

66 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:02:58pm

re: #62 Kragar

I’m leery of the Born Again Christian adoption strategy.

And it’s rather intriguing that there are more than a few *ahem* “Adult entertainment” types in his “following” list.

67 erik_t  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:03:26pm

re: #65 Dr Lizardo

Future!? Damn, I need to get born again immediately.

68 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:03:53pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

Benghazi is a poster-child of Washington incompetence and a leadership failure on a grand scale - before, during and after the attack.
— Senator Ron Johnson (@SenRonJohnson) January 23, 2013

9/11/2001 is poster-child of Washington incompetence and a leadership failure on a grand scale - before, during and after the attack.

69 efuseakay  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:04:19pm

OT: Actual evidence = LIEEEEES!!!!!

70 erik_t  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:04:30pm

re: #68 Dr. Matt

9/11/2001 is poster-child of Washington incompetence and a leadership failure on a grand scale - before, during and after the attack.

OMG STOP POLITICIZING!!!!!1

71 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:07:56pm
72 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:08:03pm

re: #67 erik_t

Future!? Damn, I need to get born again immediately.

That’s how it was explained to me. Granted, she might’ve had an improper understanding of the doctrine, or perhaps this was doctrine as preached by her church.

And it was a pretty flaky church, in my opinion. Creeped me out.

73 Interesting Times  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:09:18pm

Speaking of the GOP House, yet another reason Nancy Pelosi >>>>> John the Weeping Orange:

74 Gus  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:10:05pm

Oh boy. This is BS.

75 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:10:10pm

Oh boy now Dana Rohrabacher is giving some major derp.

76 Gus  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:10:49pm

Rohrabacher just used the wingnut line that the only person in jail is the film maker.

77 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:11:25pm


BUT DONT MENTION SANDY HOOK 2 TAEK AWAY MUH GUNZ!1!

78 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:11:47pm

Good freaking grief. Rep. Rohrabacher is giving ideological cover for the damned anti-Muslim filmmaker who is now sitting in jail for parole violations.

79 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:12:02pm

re: #76 Gus

yep MEGA-DERP. Just proof we have all kinds here in California…*le sigh*

80 dragonath  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:12:30pm

Besides assuming Obama is some kind of closet Al-Qaeda operative, why are the Republicans against military involvement in Libya? All these nasty, horrible, no good things perpetrated against the embassy, and they want to disengage?

These people make no goddamned sense.

81 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:13:35pm

re: #80 dragonath

they’re republicans, they stopped making sense a long, long time ago.

82 Kragar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:14:12pm

re: #76 Gus

Rohrabacher just used the wingnut line that the only person in jail is the film maker.

Vote GOP? Not even once, in any location.

83 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:14:58pm

re: #76 Gus

What point is this piece of information supposed to make? (rhetorical question)

84 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:15:28pm

re: #80 dragonath

Besides assuming Obama is some kind of closet Al-Qaeda operative, why are the Republicans against military involvement in Libya? All these nasty, horrible, no good things perpetrated against the embassy, and they want to disengage?

These people make no goddamned sense.

They’re against anything Obama does. That’s it. He could cure cancer and they’d complain it increased the deficit. Just look at everything they do as an attempt to undermine the President and his administration. It’s the only way to make sense of it.

85 Lidane  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:15:31pm
86 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:16:26pm

re: #85 Lidane

Wingnuts are going to go absolutely nuclear over that one.

87 jaunte  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:16:35pm

Hillary Clinton: “We’re abdicating the ideological arena.”

88 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:17:26pm

re: #78 RadicalModerate

Good freaking grief. Rep. Rohrabacher is giving ideological cover for the damned anti-Muslim filmmaker who is now sitting in jail for parole violations.

This is good news for Mitt Romney. //

89 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:18:11pm

re: #86 RadicalModerate

Wingnuts are going to go absolutely nuclear over that one.

They’re letting the blacks, the gays, and now women fight?!?! Soon the white man will have nothing left!//

90 Mattand  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:18:15pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

91 erik_t  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:18:28pm

re: #86 RadicalModerate

Wingnuts are going to go absolutely nuclear over that one.

For me, this is now an end goal in and of itself.

It’s petty, but it’s fun!

92 Kragar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:18:36pm

re: #88 Bulworth

This is good news for Mitt Romney. //

Once Mitt takes the lead, I don’t think he’s going to give it up.

93 EPR-radar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:19:03pm

re: #44 Kragar

The Catholic Church is wrong on a great many issues. However, they have not achieved a 100% error rate, thereby generating some points of disagreement between the RCC and the US hard right.

For example, the Cult of the Gun is obviously a competing religion. Also, the RCC is not on board with the wealth concentration program (another competing religion).

94 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:20:06pm

re: #85 Lidane

Was that very load POP I just heard Bryan Fischer’s head exploding?

95 Sionainn  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:21:34pm

That comb-over looks terrible!

96 EPR-radar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:21:54pm

re: #91 erik_t

For me, this is now an end goal in and of itself.

It’s petty, but it’s fun!

Not so petty. Having the wingnuts publicly reduced to baying at the moon, playing with blocks and brightly colored bits of string, and cramming random objects up their asses should severely damage the GOP brand.

Such brand damage is necessary, if we are ever to see some semblance of a functioning political system again.

97 jaunte  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:21:58pm

Congressman Steve Chabot:

2011 The John Birch Society - Positions (Summer-Fall) 80%
2011 The John Birch Society - Positions (Spring-Summer) 80%
2007-2008 The John Birch Society - Positions 63%
2007 The John Birch Society - Conservative Index Score 60%
[Link: votesmart.org…]

[Link: rationalwiki.org…]

98 Lidane  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:23:18pm

re: #94 Bubblehead II

Was that very load POP I just heard Bryan Fischer’s head exploding?

99 Geoff with a G  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:23:19pm

re: #90 Mattand

Not just any moron either….

100 simoom  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:23:47pm
101 Interesting Times  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:23:51pm

re: #76 Gus

Rohrabacher just used the wingnut line that the only person in jail is the film maker.

Dana Rohrabacher praised the Taliban. His argument is irrelevant:

Support for the Taliban in the early 1990s

Rohrabacher voiced support for the Taliban when they seized power in the 1990s, visiting Afghanistan when it came under their control, saying that the Taliban would provide “stability”, and eliminate threats to the United States. He also claimed the Taliban “intend to establish a disciplined, moral society”. He said he believed complete Taliban control over Afghanistan would be a “positive development”, that they were “devout traditionalists, not terrorists or revolutionaries”, and that “sensationalist” media coverage of the Taliban’s introduction of Sharia law was “nonsense”

102 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:24:01pm

re: #93 EPR-radar

The Catholic Church is wrong on a great many issues. However, they have not achieved a 100% error rate, thereby generating some points of disagreement between the RCC and the US hard right.

For example, the Cult of the Gun is obviously a competing religion. Also, the RCC is not on board with the wealth concentration program (another competing religion).

And the Pope sees to inherent conflict between Evolution and Creation.

103 Kragar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:24:18pm

WND Poll Finds Americans Oppose Second Term for Obama… Months After Reelecting Him

The pollster Wenzel Strategies had several entertaining and off the mark polls in the last election, which comes as no surprise as Wenzel is the chief pollster for the always-buffoonish WorldNetDaily. The firm’s latest survey for WND finds that American voters have already lost faith in President Obama’s leadership just days into his second term.

Wenzel claims that Americans had “a despondent reaction to his re-election and the in-your-face attitude that the White House has adopted” towards Republicans, and oppose his political agenda along with his “callous disregard for the massive problems that are about to destroy our nation.” Thanks to Obama, people are now apparently afraid of the country breaking apart or falling into dictatorship and tyranny.

104 Lidane  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:24:58pm

re: #103 Kragar

WND Poll Finds Americans Oppose Second Term for Obama… Months After Reelecting Him

105 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:25:09pm

re: #40 RadicalModerate

Well, at least the House committee is allowing Sec. Clinton to talk. Then again, I don’t think any House Republicans have started questioning yet.

Spoke too early on this one. Steve Chabot (R-OH) just took the full five minutes of his question time in a rambling statement, so Clinton wasn’t allowed to address him.

106 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:25:11pm

re: #103 Kragar

Skewed!!

107 erik_t  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:25:48pm

re: #101 Interesting Times

Dana Rohrabacher praised the Taliban. His argument is irrelevant:

Fifty gallons of wingnut in a five-gallon outrage-bucket.

108 Lidane  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:26:44pm

re: #89 Ghost of Tom Joad

They’re letting the blacks, the gays, and now women fight?!?! Soon the white man will have nothing left!//

109 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:26:55pm
Steve Chabot (R-OH) just took the full five minutes of his question time in a rambling statement, so Clinton wasn’t allowed to address him.

Clinton would have just politicized the whole Benghazi thing. The only thing Chabot could do to get to the Facts was to use up all his allotted time talking. //

110 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:27:21pm

re: #105 RadicalModerate

Spoke too early on this one. Steve Chabot (R-OH) just took the full five minutes of his question time in a rambling statement, so Clinton wasn’t allowed to address him.

Hillary should just have brought a picture of McKayla Maroney making her “not impressed” face, taped it to a stick, and held it up every time one of these shitstains starts bloviating.

111 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:27:45pm

And now, Confederate Joe Wilson.

112 jaunte  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:27:48pm

Joe Wilson.

113 Lidane  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:27:50pm

OUTRAGE!

114 DREd  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:28:10pm

Prediciton: Joe Wilson is about to say something really fucking stupid.

115 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:28:46pm

re: #100 simoom

Starting with Twitter, America is now just all one big Gulag. //

116 Kragar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:29:20pm

re: #114 DREd

Prediciton: Joe Wilson is about to say something really fucking stupid.

Like predicting the tide will come in or the sun will rise.

117 jaunte  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:29:23pm

Smarmy git.

118 BongCrodny  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:29:23pm

How ‘bout a little good news for a change?

BBC Sets March 30th For Doctor Who’s Return

Well, good news for us nerdogeeks, anyway. :-)

119 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:29:43pm

re: #113 Lidane

OUTRAGE!

Fox News psychiatrist: Women wanting to serve in combat is “narcissism” and it would “shoot holes in our culture”

Yes, women choose to serve in our armed forces out of sheer narcissism.

That and for the men hitting on them even if they’re dogs…


/

120 erik_t  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:29:53pm

re: #114 DREd

Prediciton: Joe Wilson is about to say something really fucking stupid.

Are you a wizard!?

121 freetoken  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:29:54pm

re: #113 Lidane

Well, that’s projection if there ever was any. Ablow goes on Fox all the time to say outrageous things to get attention. Now that’s narcissism.

122 dragonath  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:30:05pm

re: #113 Lidane

OUTRAGE!

Narcissism, thy name is Fox News.

123 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:30:08pm

re: #114 DREd

Prediciton: Joe Wilson is about to say something really fucking stupid.

Yep. He’s outraged that Sec. Clinton didn’t show up on the Sunday Morning “talking heads” interview shows after Benghazi.

124 DREd  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:30:22pm

Joe Wilson is reading a letter someone wrote to a newspaper in South Carolina. True story.

125 Kragar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:30:39pm

re: #118 BongCrodny

How ‘bout a little good news for a change?

BBC Sets March 30th For Doctor Who’s Return

Well, good news for us nerdogeeks, anyway. :-)

Well, if its one thing we could all use, its some grenades.

Wait, I meant good news.

Maybe just a few grenades.

126 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:31:21pm

re: #123 RadicalModerate

Yep. He’s outraged that Sec. Clinton didn’t show up on the Sunday Morning “talking heads” interview shows after Benghazi.

Why is Secretary Clinton talking on these Sunday talk shows?! Now the terrorists will know everything! Impeach!

127 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:32:14pm

re: #124 DREd

Joe Wilson is reading a letter someone wrote to a newspaper in South Carolina. True story.

Is the SC letter writer complaining about carpet-bagger government again? /

128 jaunte  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:32:20pm

re: #123 RadicalModerate

Yep. He’s outraged that Sec. Clinton didn’t show up on the Sunday Morning “talking heads” interview shows after Benghazi.

This is not a serious administration; look at what they have the Secretary of State doing!

129 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:33:11pm

re: #118 BongCrodny

Yeah, and they’re going to do a 50th anniversary show featuring all the Doctors - even the ones where the actors portraying them have passed away.

130 kirkspencer  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:33:15pm

fwiw, I’ve concerns about the integration of women in male combat units. I think it should happen, but I think it needs to be done in stages.

(I recognize that some people use ‘stages’ to indefinitely restrict the change. Not my intent - I think the stages should be identified and a fixed time/condition for the next stage be used. but I digress…)

One of the less obvious but still critical issues is integration of combat unit barracks. Yes, most are ‘dorm rooms’, but there’s still the bathroom and shower issue. The issues of rape and sexual assault, already a problem, are going to have to be addressed again — and we’re probably going to have to roll some heads. Doing it as a lump is going to be problematic and expensive.

ON THE OTHER HAND: There is an argument that until it’s done the problems will continue. Make it a done deal and within a few years most of the military will get over it.

131 dragonath  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:33:28pm

re: #124 DREd

Joe Wilson is reading a letter someone wrote to a newspaper in South Carolina. True story.

“Obummer is an atheist socialist marxist muslim. Also, shifty black folks.”

132 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:37:26pm

re: #129 lawhawk

Yeah, and they’re going to do a 50th anniversary show featuring all the Doctors - even the ones where the actors portraying them have passed away.

Supposedly they were able to get all living former Doctors to reprise their roles - including T. Baker and C. Eccleson, who both had previously said they wouldn’t come back.

133 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:37:30pm

re: #130 kirkspencer

One of the less obvious but still critical issues is integration of combat unit barracks. Yes, most are ‘dorm rooms’, but there’s still the bathroom and shower issue. The issues of rape and sexual assault, already a problem, are going to have to be addressed again — and we’re probably going to have to roll some heads. Doing it as a lump is going to be problematic and expensive.

Honest question, because I don’t know my ass from my elbow where the military is concerned: why would barracks have to be integrated when they aren’t integrated already?

Another question along that line: how did the Soviets handle it in WWII?

134 jaunte  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:37:59pm
135 Kragar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:38:39pm

Kilmeade slams ‘corrupt’ climate scientists in argument with radio show caller

Fox News host Brian Kilmeade trashed climatologists on his radio show on Tuesday after a caller pointed out that the vast majority of climate scientists argue that global warming is, in fact, real.

“You mean the corrupt ones?” Kilmeade asked the caller, who called himself “John.” “You mean the corrupt ones who admit they skew their findings?”

“I wish you could read my lips,” John shot back. “Ninety-eight percent of the climatologists -”

“In your house,” Kilmeade interrumpted. “How do they make their living, climatologists? Their industry has to be addressed. Believe me, for anyone, at the very least, to think it’s settled science is a huge leap.”

Who are you going to trust? A so called climate scientist whose reputation depends on accuracy or a multibillion dollar energy industry whose financial empire depends on proving the scientist wrong?

136 Gus  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:39:01pm

Well, I have to admit, this really isn’t as harsh as I expected.

137 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:39:18pm

re: #124 DREd

Joe Wilson is reading a letter someone wrote to a newspaper in South Carolina. True story.

Story time always came before nap time when I was in Kindergarten. How long until staffers start passing out the little boxes of chocolate milk or Capri Sun?

138 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:39:54pm

re: #135 Kragar

Skewed polls, skewed climate report findings! It’s all skewed! /

139 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:40:47pm
“You mean the corrupt ones?” Kilmeade asked the caller, who called himself “John.” “You mean the corrupt ones who admit they skew their findings?”

But enough about the bought-and-paid spokesmen for the energy giants.

140 freetoken  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:42:11pm

Mostly off topic, but I notice there is a new paper out on Greenland ice melt (during the Eemian) today, and I’m looking at the news wire stories, and as custom the story writers and the headline artists (which is what writing headlines happens to be) are slaughtering the actual story.

RealClimate has a good little write-up about Greenland today commenting on the paper:
The Greenland melt
 but even Eric notices that Nature (in their news article) may have misquoted him on an item.

141 jaunte  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:42:21pm

“Why don’t you read all 1.43 million cables personally?”

142 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:42:41pm

As a reminder (and from a source a wingnut could love) - Congress has cut $296m from the State Department’s embassy security and construction budget since 2010.

Since FY 2007, the State Department budget has been reduced from what the Administrations have wanted (both by President Bush and throughout the Obama Presidency).

Joe Wilson, please respond to that.

143 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:43:30pm

re: #85 Lidane

BREAKING: Panetta removes military ban on women in combat, opening thousands of front line positions.
— The Associated Press (@AP) January 23, 2013

The USMC is going to have to change the words:

Youtube Video
144 jaunte  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:43:37pm

“Why was he in Benghazi, because, you know, I haven’t read anything about this stuff until today.”

145 Kragar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:43:43pm

re: #133 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

Honest question, because I don’t know my ass from my elbow where the military is concerned: why would barracks have to be integrated when they aren’t integrated already?

Another question along that line: how did the Soviets handle it in WWII?

Usually all female units assigned to support or non-assault infantry role, such as anti air batteries, crew served support weapons, snipers, etc.

Most of the gender-integrated Russian units were partisans and guerrillas in the early days of the war and not official Russian military.

146 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:46:06pm

re: #142 lawhawk

As a reminder (and from a source a wingnut could love) - Congress has cut $296m from the State Department’s embassy security and construction budget since 2010.

Since FY 2007, the State Department budget has been reduced from what the Administrations have wanted (both by President Bush and throughout the Obama Presidency).

Joe Wilson, please respond to that.

Enough with the blame-game and finger pointing! Stop politicizing this! Who ordered the stand-down in this most tragic of all tragedies since 9/11?! And how come the heroic video maker is the only one in prison?

147 EPR-radar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:46:26pm

re: #142 lawhawk

As a reminder (and from a source a wingnut could love) - Congress has cut $296m from the State Department’s embassy security and construction budget since 2010.

Since FY 2007, the State Department budget has been reduced from what the Administrations have wanted (both by President Bush and throughout the Obama Presidency).

Joe Wilson, please respond to that.

The response has to be a mountain of derp, because there is no acceptable response available that is based on facts and reason.

The GOP is similarly handicapped in their deficit BS under the Obama administration by the simple fact that the GOP under Bush spent like drunken sailors.

148 Kragar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:46:49pm

Also, most military barracks are already integrated. Squadbays are really only found in your boot camps nowadays. Your barracks on base are more like college dorms, with 2-3 soldiers sharing a room. They just make sure all soldiers in the same room are the same gender.

149 simoom  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:47:19pm

re: #136 Gus

Well, I have to admit, this really isn’t as harsh as I expected.

I’m not surprised. SoS Clinton has a lot of deep & powerful ties to the Washington establishment and the formidable allies the comes from that. Also polling shows she’s currently extremely well regarded by the public. They’re afraid of her.

If we were watching Amb. Rice’s nomination hearings instead there would have been epic, off-the-wall, ranting denunciations & the fringey conspiracy-mongering would have been turned up to 11.

150 Lidane  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:47:27pm
151 Kragar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:47:31pm

re: #143 Dr. Matt

The USMC is going to have to change the words:

[Embedded content]

8 and a half years in the Marines, we never did that.

I think the Corps will be OK.

152 Gus  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:47:41pm

re: #136 Gus

Well, I have to admit, this really isn’t as harsh as I expected.

Oops, I forgot that I didn’t have my headphones on. :O

153 Gus  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:47:53pm

Shut up Poe.

154 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:48:31pm

re: #144 jaunte

“Why was he in Benghazi, because, you know, I haven’t read anything about this stuff until today.”

“And where is Benghazi anyway, because I haven’t read anything about the subject until today?”

155 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:48:42pm

The Representative who just finished questioning was Rep. Michael McCaul (R-TX). He’s one of the Congressmen who recently was trying to force Christian services for ALL funerals held for veterans.

[Link: www.alternet.org…]

And now, we get Ted “Birther” Poe, who honored Nathan Bedford Forrest on the US House floor a couple of years ago.

156 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:49:04pm

re: #143 Dr. Matt

The USMC is going to have to change the words:

[Embedded content]

I’ve had family and friends who were ER / trauma nurses. In my experience, they can be saltier than a pirate ship and completely destroy the “sugar and spice and all things nice” concept of femininity. I’m not sure I’m ready to hear what women soldiers come up with (and possibly have already come up with).

157 DREd  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:49:16pm

re: #145 Kragar

Women performed in combat roles in the Red Army. Women will now be allowed in combat roles in the US Army. Obama is a communist.

158 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:49:59pm

re: #157 DREd

Women performed in combat roles in the Red Army. Women will now be allowed in combat roles in the US Army. Obama is a communist.

What more need have we of witnesses!?

159 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:50:14pm

Rep. Ted Poe is very concerned about the federal government spying on him with drones.

[Link: www.rawstory.com…]

160 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:50:17pm

re: #90 Mattand

My Email to Senator Johnson:

Senator,

Your comments during today’s testimony reminded me once again what an utter and absolute disgrace to the great state of Wisconsin you are. I look forward to the day when a sentient human being is in that office again rather than someone who only knows how to parrot what his bosses at the Koch Brothers tell him to say.

161 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:50:19pm

A break from the teabag congress madness:

Distressed dolphin seeks out diver for help

Full uncut video:

Youtube Video
162 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:51:08pm

re: #155 RadicalModerate

The Representative who just finished questioning was Rep. Michael McCaul (R-TX). He’s one of the Congressmen who recently was trying to force Christian services for ALL funerals held for veterans.

[Link: www.alternet.org…]

“We’re Republicans, all our representatives live in Texas.”

163 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:51:20pm

re: #151 Kragar

8 and a half years in the Marines, we never did that.

I think the Corps will be OK.

They made us do it the Navy but I think it was just to fuck with us.

164 simoom  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:52:43pm

Sen. Johnson doesn’t know when to quit apparently:

165 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:52:50pm

Every one of these House Republicans has some kind of goofy shit going on.

166 jaunte  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:53:03pm

These are the clowns who are convinced government doesn’t work, and that it can spy on all of our cow pastures and wants to spy on our bed partners.

167 kirkspencer  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:53:05pm

re: #133 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

Honest question, because I don’t know my ass from my elbow where the military is concerned: why would barracks have to be integrated when they aren’t integrated already?

Another question along that line: how did the Soviets handle it in WWII?

Because infantry units (just to give an example) have a lot of barracks gathered in one location, with no females in them. In most units in the US and permanent overseas barracks (Germany, Korea) your company lives in one or two buildings. (There are a few exceptions where a company may spread over a couple of smaller barracks. The principle applies.) Within the barracks you try to keep platoons co-located, with squads as cohesive as possible.

The college dorm method is to put men on one floor and women on another. Alternatively (and provided there’s sufficient alternate fire escapes) put a barrier (with or without door) between the areas. Last, and becoming more common for dormitories, is for rooms or suites or connecting room/suites to have an attached independent bathroom.

If you’ve only got a dozen women in the barracks and they are placed between three or four platoons, the first two won’t work and the last is expensive unless already in place.

The Russians did it by having all-female units.

The thing is /eventually/ we’ll have barracks (and other things - that’s just the obvious and easy example) for infantry and armor that’s like those for medical units and military police and all the rest. We’re not starting from scratch here, we know what works and how to do it for that sort of thing. We’re just making the teeth join the rest of the military.

168 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:53:09pm

re: #133 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

Don’t know if it’s been said already but when I was in BCT (Basic Combat Training) we had integrated platoons. We had 4 platoons in the company and 4 bays, one for each platoon. The females used one bay and the rest of us were in the other bays.

For the record this sucked because the females from all platoons were sleeping in my platoon’s bay and since it was our bay, our platoon was responsible for cleaning it. One day we were smoked thanks to females from the other platoons coming in and making a mess of the latrine after we had cleaned it. There was a surprise inspection while we were out training.

169 freetoken  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:53:38pm

re: #159 Charles Johnson

“Who will operate these drones, and what will be their mission?” he wondered.

Oh, that’s an easy. “Who?” Why, the guys in the black helicopters, that’s who.

170 Girth  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:53:41pm

re: #157 DREd

Women performed in combat roles in the Red Army. Women will now be allowed in combat roles in the US Army. Obama is a communist.

Worst communist ever.

[Link: blogs.wsj.com…]

171 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:54:04pm

re: #156 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

I’ve had family and friends who were ER / trauma nurses. In my experience, they can be saltier than a pirate ship and completely destroy the “sugar and spice and all things nice” concept of femininity. I’m not sure I’m ready to hear what women soldiers come up with (and possibly have already come up with).

The best ‘mech’ (aviation mechanic) in our squadron was a “stout” female that had no problem carrying her own. She even had a wallet-chain thingy…I never back-talked to her.

172 Lidane  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:55:26pm
173 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:56:13pm

re: #172 Lidane

If they let women serve in combat, what’ll be next? Gay soldiers? #slipperyslope
— Matt Yglesias (@mattyglesias) January 23, 2013

Teh Mexicans!

174 Interesting Times  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:56:27pm
175 Girth  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:57:52pm

re: #174 Interesting Times

Clearly Beyonce lip-synced in order to draw some heat off of Clinton testifying.

176 Lidane  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:58:06pm

OUTRAGE!

“The GOP already caved on the budget. Then they caved on BENGHAZI. Then women in combat. Now THIS?!

Pack our bags, Ma! We’re movin’ in with that Beck fella in Galt’s Gulch.”

////

177 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:58:29pm

This didn’t take long: Todd Kincannon (@ToddFuckmennon)

178 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:59:29pm

re: #176 Lidane

Gee, you get the idea that everyone’s tuning in to the fact that the House GOP are a bunch of misogynistic extremist loons?

179 jaunte  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 1:00:19pm
180 Amory Blaine  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 1:00:30pm

The morons in this state kicked Russ Feingold out of office and installed daddies boy Ron Johnson in his place. What a fucking disgrace. Ron Johnson ran off to the comfort of Charlie Sykes radio show to heal his lil boo boos and cast more aspersions against people and things he’ll never understand.

181 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 1:01:59pm

First they let women go into combat and then they want to pass laws banning violence against women?

These liberals make no sense at all!!!

182 jaunte  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 1:03:16pm
183 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 1:04:24pm

Where a Woman’s Place is on the Front Lines

The number of countries that have opened frontline combat positions is also larger than you might think (or than media reports sometimes suggest). A 2010 survey by the British Ministry of Defense listed Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Israel, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Romania, and Sweden as countries that allow women in “close combat roles,” defined as “engaging an enemy on the ground with individual or crew served weapons, while being exposed to hostile fire and to a high probability of direct physical contact with the hostile forces personnel.” Australia joined that list in September 2011 when it opened its front-line units — including one of the largest contingents in Afghanistan — to women.

A handful of other countries could probably also be added. South Korea has begun opening up more frontline positions to women, including in artillery and armored divisions. Women have fought in Eritrea’s military since its war of independence from Ethiopia in 1991 — at one point they made up 30 percent of the country’s combat forces — and are required, along with men, to serve a year and a half of military service. Women have flown combat missions as fighter pilots for Britain, Pakistan, Serbia, South Africa, the United States, and others.

Even among the countries identified in the MoD survey, some restrictions remain. Dutch women are barred from submarines or the Marines. In France, submarines and riot-control units are off limits. While the French infantry is theoretically open to women, in practice they make up only 1.7 percent of combat troops.

In Israel, which is well known as one of the few countries where women are drafted, the policy is evolving. Santorum cited Israel as a country that doesn’t allow women on the frontlines because of the psychological effect it has on men. But in fact, the Israeli military does allow women in the vast majority of combat positions.

184 Kragar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 1:04:36pm

I’m tempted to make a twitter account just to mock Bryan Fischer when he tweets the news about the women in combat decision.

185 Kragar  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 1:07:11pm

I love how all the people who are screaming they need an assault rifle to defend themselves at home piss themselves in outrage when a woman is allowed to use an assault rifle to defend the country.

186 freetoken  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 1:08:15pm

Exhibit #23,977,502 on why one should never learn science from news wire stories - check out the wording of this headline:


Dog Stomach DNA Changes May Have Aided Domestication, Study Says

Here’s the sneaky little truth: the DNA isn’t in the stomach. And on top of that, amylase is found in saliva.

187 Lidane  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 1:08:19pm
188 Girth  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 1:11:24pm

re: #185 Kragar

I love how all the people who are screaming they need an assault rifle to defend themselves at home piss themselves in outrage when a woman is allowed to use an assault rifle to defend the country.

My mental image of this is hilarious. Thank you.

189 stabby  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 1:16:30pm

re: #181 Sol Berdinowitz

First they let women go into combat and then they want to pass laws banning violence against women?

These liberals make no sense at all!!!

Ah, but these women will have guns like all student should so they’ll be safe.

190 Lidane  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 1:17:52pm

“Women in combat?! That just ain’t right.”

191 stabby  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 1:18:18pm

re: #187 Lidane

It’s amazing how badly “trying to work with them” and “giving them every nearly reasonable thing they asked for” worked.

What the fuck is wrong with Republicans anyway?

192 Lidane  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 1:19:33pm

re: #191 stabby

What the fuck is wrong with Republicans anyway?

40+ years of openly appealing to the bigots, idiots, and mouth-breathers to win votes and influence policy.

193 pablogonzales  Wed, Jan 23, 2013 4:41:12pm

If attacks on U.S. Embassies are supposed to connote a “weakness” in the Commander in Chief, then GWBush comes out as the “weakest” of Presidents because there were 12 terror attacks on U.S. diplomatic facilities abroad during GWBush’s administration, more than any President in our history, and they include:

June 14, 2002, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber kills 12 and injures 51.
February 20, 2003, international diplomatic compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia?Truck bomb kills 17.
February 28, 2003, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan?Gunmen on motorcycles killed two consulate guards.
July 30, 2004, U.S. embassy in Taskkent, Uzbekistan?Suicide bomber kills two.
December 6, 2004, U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia?Militants stormed and occupied perimeter wall. 5 killed, 10 wounded.
March 2, 2006, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan?Suicide car bomber killed four, including a U.S. diplomat directly targeted by the assailants.
September 12, 2006, U.S. embassy in Damascus, Syria?Gunmen attacked embassy with grenades, automatic weapons, and a car bomb (though second truck bomb failed to detonate). One killed and 13 wounded.
January 12, 2007, U.S. embassy in Athens, Greece?A rocket-propelled grenade was fired at the embassy building. No one was injured.
July 9, 2008, U.S. consulate in Istanbul, Turkey?Armed men attacked consulate with pistols and shotguns. Three policemen killed.
March 18, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana’a, Yemen?Mortar attack misses embassy, hits nearby girls’ school instead.
September 17, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana’a, Yemen?Militants dressed as policemen attacked the embassy with RPGs, rifles, grenades and car bombs. Six Yemeni soldiers and seven civilians were killed. Sixteen more were injured. (Daily Kos, 9-12-12)

I don’t recall Republicans convening a hearing on any of THOSE embassy attacks.

There were also 7 attacks on U.S. diplomatic facilities during the Reagan era.

The embassy breach in Libya was only the second attack on U.S. diplomatic facilities during President Obama’s first term. Even after OBL’s death, American diplomatic facilities did not come under fire.


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Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ...
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