Fox Nation Deliberately Inciting Racial Hatred (Again)

Keeping the angry racist base enraged

WingnutsJanuary 2013 • Views: 27,249

One of the features of LGF is our randomly selected news feed, near the bottom of the left sidebar. When this Fox Nation post appeared in the feed, I knew right away what I’d see if I clicked through: VIDEO: Brawl Erupts at Food Stamp Office | Welfare | Fox Nation.

That’s right — it’s categorized “Welfare.”

Here’s the original story: Brawl at Social Services Office Caught on Video.

EAST ST. LOUIS, IL. (KTVI) — An alarming video of a Tuesday afternoon brawl at a social services office in East St. Louis had workers and clients concerned for their safety and brought calls for action.

Notice that the original article used the term “social services office,” but Fox Nation not only called it a “food stamp office” in their headline, they actually edited the text of the quote they pulled for their article. The Fox Nation version:

EAST ST. LOUIS, IL. (KTVI) — An alarming video of a Tuesday afternoon brawl at a food stamp office in East St. Louis had workers and clients concerned for their safety and brought calls for action.

If you’re not aware of what Fox Nation does, you might wonder why they would make such changes — you might wonder why, in fact, they have such an item on their site at all.

It’s because one of the main functions of Fox Nation is to incite racial hatred among the audience of Fox News. And time after time, that audience responds by spewing torrents of the most astonishingly horrific racist commentary you’ll find anywhere on the web, up to and including neo-Nazi hate sites. It’s been going on for years, and there can be no doubt that it’s a deliberate, calculated editorial policy to not only tolerate, but actively encourage this.

A few of the comments for their “food stamp office brawl” story (notice that some of the knuckle-draggers use creative misspellings to get around Fox Nation’s word filters):

It’s gonna be a sight to be hold when those EBT cards start flashing ERROR. It’ll be a new reality show. N!66rs gone wild.

[…]

Blacks are the fattest,unhealthy,demographic in the US!

[…]

Knee groes, again? who’dathunkit?

[…]

3 cheers for the food stamp prezzzz

[…]

Just your average blacks and wannbe blacks who voted for an AA crackheaded bathhouse fairy doing what they know.

Average obama voter: IQ under 95 (american j of psychology may 2009)

It is a black culture thing.

[…]

Imagine that!!! Someone at the food stamp office with a Iphone???

[…]

Ha,ha,ha,ha….Nothing funnier than watching a bunch of monkeys fighting over a stalk of bananas…

I wonder what it means when one of them screams, “UhuhhletgoIgostogitmahkids”?

Interesting species, aren’t they?….

[…]

The best example of the human “ANIMAL” that I’ve ever seen !!

[…]

Let’s go get some of them goodies !

[…]

Man, the ‘word filter’ on here is insane. Can you say, “Censorship.”

[…]

Filmed in Kenya.

[…]

Librats fighting for free cheese,is the only time you will ever see a liabrat fight.

[…]

the only good addict is a dead addict

[…]

Then they will sell the food stamps

[…]

Yup. For crack.

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60 comments

Dr Lizardo Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:03:29pm

I’d like to say I’m shocked, but I’m not. Fox Nation = Stormfront, in my personal opinion.

FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:05:33pm

Can I mention that they don’t actually make “food stamps” anymore.

IIRC, funds are issued in the form of Debit Cards.

At least, in Illinois.

HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:07:56pm

Can always count on FN commentators for good old fashioned racism.

freetoken Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:09:09pm

When Murdoch picked Roger Ailes to head up Fox News, Murdoch made a calculated decision to target his enterprise to a particular segment of America - a segment that Nixon had wooed (Southern Strategy), and as Ailes was Nixon’s TV guy it was quite clear that Ailes knew what to do.

Murdoch himself I am quite sure could care less about the content - he loves money. Murdoch knew that the NYC dominated TV media elites looked down at the racist rednecks and under-served them. There was money left on the table, and Murdoch decided to take it.

The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.

erik_t Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:09:30pm

Let’s all hop into the wayback machine!

FOX Nation will be a forum for Americans to speak out on important and controversial issues, and to act on their beliefs and values—while always upholding the traditional American ideals of free speech, fair play, and tolerance.

Here at FOX Nation, the American people will be the stars. FOX News Channel, and Foxnews.com, will continue, of course, to provide fair and balanced news coverage, but FOX Nation is different. It is about you, what you care about, what you care about enough to post and comment upon. Anything you want—just keep it decent and legal!

Ah. Mmmmhmmmm.

Varek Raith Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:11:03pm

FoxNation is just a mainstream Stormfront.
Congrats, Fox.

dragonfire1981 Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:11:11pm

Fox Aryan Nation.

dragonfire1981 Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:11:56pm

re: #5 erik_t

Let’s all hop into the wayback machine!

Ah. Mmmmhmmmm.

If they consider this decent I would love to see what they consider over the line.

Ian G. Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:13:48pm

This brings me back to the Michael Tomasky column that Charles linked to in the other thread. Normally, Tomasky’s comments section is pretty mild, if anyone posts there at all, but it was a free-for-all this morning, making me wonder if Breitbart or Malkin had linked his article.

So what was the winger response to Tomasky’s claim that the GOP would have a very difficult time attracting minorities? A whole lot of “yeah, minorities will never vote GOP as long as they’re moochers and looters of what hard-working white people rightfully earn.”

Never change, wingers. Maybe in 2016, you can drive Latino support for the Democratic candidate to north of 90% and flip Texas and Arizona in the process.

BroncD Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:19:06pm

Shocking.

HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:19:22pm

re: #9 Ian G.

This brings me back to the Michael Tomasky column that Charles linked to in the other thread. Normally, Tomasky’s comments section is pretty mild, if anyone posts there at all, but it was a free-for-all this morning, making me wonder if Breitbart or Malkin had linked his article.

So what was the winger response to Tomasky’s claim that the GOP would have a very difficult time attracting minorities? A whole lot of “yeah, minorities will never vote GOP as long as they’re moochers and looters of what hard-working white people rightfully earn.”

Never change, wingers. Maybe in 2016, you can drive Latino support for the Democratic candidate to north of 90% and flip Texas and Arizona in the process.

It’s funny that they say that because Romney won the poor states by big margins. Obama actually did better here in wealthier Northern Virginia than he did in Virginia as a whole. Romney racked up big margins in the more poorer parts of the state. The right really has this self esteem issue where they seem to think they’re the only ones who work hard, love their families, and are patriotic. And it’s worse for them when their candidates re-enforce that with idiotic comments like the Romney’s now infamous 47% comment.

HoosierHoops Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:20:02pm

re: #8 dragonfire1981

If they consider this decent I would love to see what they consider over the line.

I’ve never been to Fox nation before..All I have seen are comments that Charles has posted here. I see no value reading their comments.

freetoken Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:21:00pm

re: #9 Ian G.

Yesterday at the NYT, Tom Edsall published a column: Can Republicans Change Their Spots?, in which he highlights the quandary that political party now faces.

The market which Fox cradles is expected to become (and is already becoming) an albatross around the GOP’s neck.

Fox will continue doing what it does as long as it is profitable (and it is, and I expect it to remain so.) The question is whether the society at large will tolerate the political system being manipulated by this group.

FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:21:03pm

re: #12 HoosierHoops

I’ve never been to Fox nation before..All I have seen are comments that Charles has posted here. I see no value reading their comments.

DON’T GO

FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:22:16pm

re: #12 HoosierHoops

I’ve never been to Fox nation before..All I have seen are comments that Charles has posted here. I see no value reading their comments.

Just think of the Mullahs and their minions in Iran —now change all references to religion to Christian —You have the Republican Party and Fox Nation all rolled into one.

Ian G. Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:25:21pm

re: #11 HappyWarrior

Of course, and I couldn’t help needling some of the more frothing commenters by pointing out that the majority of government spending is on programs for the elderly: i.e. the GOP base.

Like I said, it was a free-for-all. I “learned” that Mississippi has better public schools than California from one of the more deranged commenters, for instance.

jaunte Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:26:54pm

Unlike the ideal Fox Nation brawl, there was no gunplay.

HappyWarrior Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:27:05pm

re: #16 Ian G.

Of course, and I couldn’t help needling some of the more frothing commenters by pointing out that the majority of government spending is on programs for the elderly: i.e. the GOP base.

Like I said, it was a free-for-all. I “learned” that Mississippi has better public schools than California from one of the more deranged commenters, for instance.

They’re idiots.

engineer cat Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:28:00pm

Inciting Racial Hatred

or, as the “i’m not a racist, but” racist crowd refers to it: ‘face facts, people who don’t look like me are inferior’

FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:29:16pm

SNAP program

In the late 1990s, the Food Stamp program was revamped, with some states phasing out actual stamps in favor of a specialized debit card system known as Electronic Benefit Transfer (EBT), provided by private contractors. Many states merged the use of the EBT card for public welfare programs as well, such as cash assistance. The move was designed to save the government money by not printing the coupons, make benefits available immediately instead of forcing the recipient to wait for mailing or picking up the booklets in person, and reduce theft and diversion. The 2008 farm bill renamed the Food Stamp Program as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (as of October 2008), and replaced all references to “stamp” or “coupon” in federal law to “card” or “EBT.”[2][3]

In the 2012 fiscal year, $74.6 billion in food assistance was distributed.[4] As of September 2012, 47.7 million Americans were receiving on average $134.29 per month in food assistance.[4] In Washington, D.C., and Mississippi, more than one-fifth of residents receive food assistance.[5]

Moochers in Congress!!! :0

b_sharp Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:32:59pm

I’m afraid that if I went to Faux Nation I’d get hooked on posting pages. Only ignoring can save my ass.

FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:34:01pm

Participants
According to the United States Department of Agriculture (based on a study of data gathered in Fiscal Year 2010), statistics for the food stamp program are as follows:[11]
-49% of all participant households have children (17 or younger), and 55% of those are single-parent households.
-15% of all participant households have elderly (age 60 or over) members.
-20% of all participant households have non-elderly disabled members.
-The average gross monthly income per food stamp household is $731; The average net income is $336.
-36% of participants are White, 22% are African-American, 10% are Hispanic, 2% are Asian, 4% are Native American, and 19% are of unknown race or ethnicity.[11]

An annual report released by the Department of Agriculture about the composition of households participating in the Food Stamp Program is identified as the Characteristics Report.[12]

Aside from nutritional assistance, SNAP Employment and Training (E&T) funds can also be used to provide recipients with education and training and career pathways programs.[13] SNAP outreach funds can also be integrated with screening tools for other public benefit programs.[14]

Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:34:59pm

Evening Lizardim. I see the fever swamp is enjoying its growing mainstream status. As a programmer, I can’t help but wonder why Fox Nation bothered with a word filter when the whole thing is a thinly veiled attempt at giving the knuckle-draggers their own platform.

Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:35:26pm

Fox Nation is the Crazy Uncle that you keep locked up in the basement. Crap like this is probably why Fox News turned off commenting on their main site. It was making them look bad.

Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:35:37pm

re: #23 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

That is to say, it seems to me to be more effort to program even a weaksauce word filter than it’d be worth, considering the target audience.

EPR-radar Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:36:18pm

re: #23 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

Evening Lizardim. I see the fever swamp is enjoying its growing mainstream status. As a programmer, I can’t help but wonder why Fox Nation bothered with a word filter when the whole thing is a thinly veiled attempt at giving the knuckle-draggers their own platform.

The word filter provides a way to gradually decrease the filtering over time, e.g., to bring certain terms back into popular usage.

A Mom Anon Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:36:57pm

re: #20 FemNaziBitch

I’d love to ask one of the assholes who think people live high on the hog with “food stamps and welfare” think is the actual amount people receive. Same with the idiots who think unemployment insurance is welfare. I think they really believe that people on assistance or or UI actually make as much as someone making a solid middle class income.

A lot of people also seem to not get that as far as actual “welfare” is concerned, you have to work or you don’t qualify. Or that you can only get that sort of help for no more than a total of five years your entire adult life. Seems to me that if there was an actual living wage the need for many of these programs would be little if any.

FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:37:26pm

Macroeconomic effect

According to Keynesian economic theory, like other forms of government spending, SNAP, by putting money into people’s hands, increases aggregate demand and stimulates the economy. In congressional testimony given in July 2008, Mark Zandi, chief economist for Moody’s Economy.com, provided estimates of the one-year fiscal multiplier effect for several fiscal policy options, and found that a temporary increase in SNAP was the most effective, with an estimated multiplier of 1.73.[35]

In 2011, Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack gave a slightly higher estimate: “Every dollar of SNAP benefits generates $1.84 in the economy in terms of economic activity.”[36] Vilsack’s estimate was based on a 2002 George W. Bush-era USDA study which found that “Ultimately, the additional $5 billion of FSP (Food Stamp Program) expenditures triggered an increase in total economic activity (production, sales, and value of shipments) of $9.2 billion and an increase in jobs of 82,100,” or $1.84 stimulus for every dollar spent.[37]

erik_t Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:37:50pm

re: #25 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

That is to say, it seems to me to be more effort to program even a weaksauce word filter than it’d be worth, considering the target audience.

I mean, I get that they think a bunch of NiCLANG-posts would make them look bad, but who exactly do they think they’re fooling?

Any imbecile can read that comment section and correctly ascertain that it is full of loud and vicious racists. A few misspellings here and there are about as effective a camouflage as a sniper writing I AM NOT HERE on his helmet in day-glo orange.

Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:38:50pm

I saw that on TGDN earlier today, the wingnuts were totally ululating about it.

“Smithers, release a Food Stamp into the crowd! It’s so jolly to watch the poors swarming for it!”

Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:39:46pm

Who gets the most welfare? PEOPLE WHO WORK.

Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:40:28pm

re: #31 Vicious Babushka

Who gets the most welfare? PEOPLE WHO WORK.

UNPOSSIBLE! If you have a paying job, you don’t need welfare because AMERICA!

freetoken Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:43:53pm

Speaking of food stamps, one thing ought not to be lost is the big picture of where we, as a western society, are heading in a post-industrial age. What does it mean to “work”?

Spain’s unemployment rate reaches record high

Spain’s unemployment rate has surged to a modern-day record of 26.02 percent in the final quarter of 2012 as nearly six million people searched in vain for work in a biting recession, official data shows.

[…]

Even though “food stamps” have their roots back in the distribution of excess food produced by farmers and procured by the government, today the idea of a “social net” has more to do with the rather large mis-match of wealth in post-industrial societies.

I’m convinced that this is just part of a long term process that we in the US have not recognized because we are generally blind to the mass population of the Earth. Most people on this planet can’t share our history of rapid industrialization and immense physical wealth. Now, with the BRICs and then the secondary groups of nations becoming more wealthy through manufacturing and mining, we (in the US, as in Spain and most of Europe) have a large population that do not work because we need neither the agricultural or manufacturing labor.

If one is a wealthy American today there is little incentive to invest in the poorer parts of this nation but great incentive to invest overseas. For example, one of my minor hobbies is artistic metalwork (jewelry) - I don’t spend much time or money on it but gems and jewelry have always fascinated me. Yet if I want to go in to ring manufacturing, say a million units a year, where would I set up shop? California, or Mississippi? No. Rather, it would be somewhere in SE Asia, because labor is much cheaper there.

If we are to keep our “social safety net” healthy we have to come to terms with how we want to distribute the jobs that produce the goods that meet our needs.

Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:46:56pm

and youre a self hating jew who takes money for worthless pixels and yer 15 minutes is up LOL!@viciousbabushka
— TwitTurd (@TwitTurdDaily) January 24, 2013

Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:47:46pm

Todd’s little minions, aren’t they cute?

freetoken Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:49:07pm

Fickle Americans:

Climate change beliefs of independent voters shift with the weather, another study finds

Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:49:26pm

re: #35 Vicious Babushka

Todd’s little minions, aren’t they cute?

In a vile and disgusting sort of sense, perhaps. “Oh, it puked all over the carpet. How cute.”

FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:50:28pm

re: #34 Vicious Babushka

Why do you hate yourself?

HoosierHoops Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:51:54pm

re: #15 FemNaziBitch

Just think of the Mullahs and their minions in Iran —now change all references to religion to Christian —You have the Republican Party and Fox Nation all rolled into one.

My Journey to become a registered Dem has been interesting. I was raised in a very liberal catholic family. Was the the Micheal J. Fox of the family. I’d defend the GOP at dinner table while pops would defend the Dems.
Over time I really started seeing changes in the party. From the center-right I moved Center-left. It really started going downhill when Obama was elected. The party jumped off the cliff leading to hard core general mind set.
One day, Me and my Dad were sitting in his wood shop drinking a beer.
I said..Dad I’m going to register with the Dems. We talked for hours about politics and I learned a lot from him. I could see the pride in his eyes and he turned me on to the Maddow show. Then I moved to Oklahoma and a couple times a week he’d call me about good shows and suggestions.
About that time LGF lizards went hard core and jumped the shark. Not a moderate in the group. So Nov.2010 I posted I was changing parties.
Charles got all the blame…
A year before I started getting pictures sent to me of a lynched black man with Obama’s face photo shopped in it..I knew I was going to leave the GOP when far right internal voices emerged as the core.
I really like the Dem Party..I’m go to the local office here, It’s pretty big and cool, We have lunches with local pols. We have art and wine shows.
( they think I’m a wine god cause I grew up in Napa Valley )

Geoff with a G Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:53:57pm

re: #34 Vicious Babushka

@ViciousBabushka you truly are doing the twitter job ~~American’s~~ humans don’t want.

freetoken Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:54:58pm

When I look at the front page of FoxNation I am struck that the tone it strikes is a cross between a teenage-gossip column and snake-oil sales literature.

It really is shooting for lowest common denominator.

EPR-radar Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:59:37pm

re: #13 freetoken

So far, I don’t think the GOP feels any real need to change its spots. They are presently in striking distance nationally (e.g, 2010 midterms), and 2012 was not nearly the blowout that the EV totals would suggest.

Their strategy for 2016 will most likely be to crater the economy and blame the Democrats for it.

FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 24, 2013 3:00:21pm

re: #39 HoosierHoops

I’m not registered anything.

FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 24, 2013 3:01:32pm

re: #42 EPR-radar

So far, I don’t think the GOP feels any real need to change its spots. They are presently in striking distance nationally (e.g, 2010 midterms), and 2012 was not nearly the blowout that the EV totals would suggest.

Their strategy for 2016 will most likely be to crater the economy and blame the Democrats

a/k/a athiests

for it.

ftfy

jhrhv Thu, Jan 24, 2013 3:02:44pm

The comments that were really offensive got deleted. Meaning the disgusting stuff you’ve read was considered to be “OK”.

freetoken Thu, Jan 24, 2013 3:03:00pm

re: #42 EPR-radar

However, as that article among many points out, the GOP only retains control of the House because of gerrymandering. Overall Democratic candidates got many more votes, and in North Carolina there is significant imbalance between how people vote in the state and who ends up being Representatives.

FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 24, 2013 3:03:16pm

re: #43 FemNaziBitch

I’m not registered anything.

This is what determined my vote. This time around.

Party’s change their spots, it seems, every few decades.

I have a hard time with labels for me or anywhere.

Romantic Heretic Thu, Jan 24, 2013 3:06:00pm

re: #31 Vicious Babushka

Who gets the most welfare? PEOPLE WHO WORK.

This is why I consider “work for welfare” as a form of slavery. It means people have no choice save to take a job no matter how little it pays or how poor the benefits.

It also shifts the burden of paying workers from the employers to the tax payers. Which is enormously unfair to the taxpayer.

Oddest of all is that the people who support these things are invariably loud about “freedom!” and “capitalism!” But “work for welfare” is removes freedom and undermines capitalism. It would boggle my mind if I hadn’t already had it boggled so often that I’m now immune.

FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 24, 2013 3:07:07pm

I just don’t have the patience this evening.

Please help.

FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 24, 2013 3:08:37pm

re: #48 Romantic Heretic

Slave Labor = Work for Welfare

FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 24, 2013 3:09:22pm

I’m off to look for some patience.

if I find some, I’ll be back.

Have a good one all.

freetoken Thu, Jan 24, 2013 3:10:43pm

Meanwhile, in regards to one of the pillars of atavism:

Creationists: Randy Moore Wants Your Children!

There is no doubting Randy Moore’s evolution-education credentials.

[…]

Randy Moore, in short, has long been one of the most engaging and engaged voices in the campaign to get more evolution education into America’s schools.

And what is Moore’s most recent argument to make America’s schools more evolution-friendly?

In a remarkable article in the “evolutionary-creationist” BioLogos Forum, Moore and colleague Sehoya Cotner offered two recommendations for improving evolution education:

1.) Let Jesus teach it!

2.) Catch creationist kids young!

[…]

In other words, as Moore and Cotner convincingly demonstrate, simply assuming that the scientific evidence for evolution will convince creationist teachers has not worked, and will not work. They rely heavily on the research of Penn State political scientists Michael Berkman and Eric Plutzer. Instead, evolution education needs to get away from the delusion that the scientific evidence alone will do the job. With adults, effective evolution education, as Moore and Cotner contend, must address “philosophical and religious” issues involved. This conclusion makes eminent sense. However, it brings us to an awkward realization: science education must range far beyond science education to be effective science education. Are creationist teachers to be taught that Jesus wants them to accept evolution? That seems to be Moore’s and Cotner’s implication, and it raises a host of thorny issues.

The second prong of their policy argument is equally radical. If “fact-based” evolution education is to work, Moore and Cotner argue, it must reach young students before their families’ influence has become decisive. In other words, effective evolution education must evangelize aggressively to counter the “supernatural explanations” offered young people by their parents and church leaders. Effective evolution education must seek to replace those family influences with the influence of scientific evidence.

[…]

Ah yes, the Jesus-wants-you-to-accept-evolution appraoch.

Of course that will be a non-starter in public schools (since teaching any “Jesus wants….” teaching would be religious indoctrination.)

Lidane Thu, Jan 24, 2013 3:10:53pm

And the GOP thinks that they might have a chance of attracting minority voters.

Heh.

freetoken Thu, Jan 24, 2013 3:11:33pm

re: #48 Romantic Heretic

There is an excess of labor available on the world market.

EPR-radar Thu, Jan 24, 2013 3:14:11pm

re: #46 freetoken

However, as that article among many points out, the GOP only retains control of the House because of gerrymandering. Overall Democratic candidates got many more votes, and in North Carolina there is significant imbalance between how people vote in the state and who ends up being Representatives.

Yes, the Democrats losing in 2010 was especially damaging because that was a census year, and the GOP were able to lock in many of their gains in the House.

In 2012, the Democrats had three big advantages and one big disadvantage. The D advantages were incumbency, strong D candidate and weak R candidate. The D disadvantage was the economy.

It is plausible that 2012 could have been a lot closer with a strong R candidate and a weak D candidate (and/or if some silly October event had occurred).

We shouldn’t forget that Romney as a candidate was truly inept, and Obama is one of the best campaigners in the past 30 or more years.

All in all, believing that the GOP remains within striking distance of winning in 2016, even if their message remains the same, seems justified. The 2014 midterms will be interesting.

Romantic Heretic Thu, Jan 24, 2013 3:14:25pm

re: #54 freetoken

There is an excess of labor available on the world market.

The devil finds work for idle hands.

Obdicut Thu, Jan 24, 2013 3:15:57pm

re: #49 FemNaziBitch

Done.

Chrysicat Thu, Jan 24, 2013 3:16:29pm

re: #42 EPR-radar

Naaah, we’ve already seen their strategy for 2016, and while that may be part of it, the bigger part is that they’re gonna make ‘split-EV states’ part of THE MOVEMENT that can’t be opposed without facing a primary challenger. After all, they’ve already introduced the bill in VA, haven’t they?

EPR-radar Thu, Jan 24, 2013 3:20:16pm

re: #58 Chrysicat

Naaah, we’ve already seen their strategy for 2016, and while that may be part of it, the bigger part is that they’re gonna make ‘split-EV states’ part of THE MOVEMENT that can’t be opposed without facing a primary challenger. After all, they’ve already introduced the bill in VA, haven’t they?

It will be interesting to see what becomes of EV splitting. After all, it would also be perfectly constitutional for a GOP state legislature to send in GOP electors without going to the bother of holding a general presidential election at all.

Bulworth Fri, Jan 25, 2013 7:32:00am

3 cheers for the food stamp prezzzz

I wonder when white recipients of food stamps will start to figure out that the conservative media establishment doesn’t like them much either?

not sure if/

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