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Arkansas Republicans Getting All Up in That Vagina Again

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It’s back! The Republican-mandated invasive transvaginal ultrasound has returned in Arkansas (they never stop trying), where Sen. Jason Rapert (yes! Rapert was his name-o!) is hiding the ultrasound requirement in … yet another “fetal heartbeat” anti-abortion bill: Spread ‘Em, Ladies: Rapert Toughens Anti-Abortion Bill.

The new Rapert bill would prohibit an abortion if a heartbeat is detected, a limitation that moves the potential prohibition in Arkansas law to the 5th week of pregnancy, far beyond the pre-viability protection period that the U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly upheld. Viability has generally been considered at the 23rd to 24th week, though anti-abortion legislatures have tried to move that to 20 weeks, a move that is under challenge in court. Such legislation is being offered again in Arkansas and could be considered in committee this week. It’s even meaner in some ways than Rapert’s bill — no exception for rape and incest or mental health of mother.

The new Rapert bill would require a check for heartbeat by “standard medical practice, including the use of medical devices as determined by standard medical practice.” The bill doesn’t spell it out, but at the earliest stage of a pregnancy, this requirement would mean a transvaginal probe. To get an abortion under the Rapert legislation, a woman in the earliest stage of pregnancy (when most abortions are sought and performed) would be forced to submit to a vaginal probe rather than a standard ultrasound passed over the abdomen. And, if five weeks pregnant and a heartbeat was detected, a woman would be told an abortion was illegal.

Abortions to save a mother’s life are excepted as are pregnancies resulting from rape and medical emergencies. But instrumental rape is OK.

It would be a Class D felony for a doctor to perform an abortion after detecting a heartbeat. The woman would not be subject to prosecution.

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585 comments

1 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 3:59:34pm

Can’t spell ‘Rapert’ without ‘rape’.

2 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:00:48pm
3 Professional Poo Flinger  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:01:21pm

How about putting it under ‘General RWNJ Stupidity.’

4 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:01:59pm

Yes folks, the modern GOP thinks a woman should have to go through Hell and back to obtain an abortion, but asking a gun buyer to undergo a background check on every gun he wants to purchase is government tyranny.

5 Professional Poo Flinger  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:06:08pm

re: #2 Vicious Babushka

You need to change your Twitter name. The one you have sounds like you’re the fake.

Try Fraudulent Quote Slayer or Quote Mine Slayer or Slayer of Fake Quotes.

6 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:10:37pm

re: #5 b_sharp

You need to change your Twitter name. The one you have sounds like you’re the fake.

Try Fraudulent Quote Slayer or Quote Mine Slayer or Slayer of Fake Quotes.

I tried “Slayer of Fake Quotes” but ran into the Twitter name limit and it came out to “Slayer of Fake Quote”

7 Professional Poo Flinger  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:11:57pm

re: #6 Vicious Babushka

I tried “Slayer of Fake Quotes” but ran into the Twitter name limit and it came out to “Slayer of Fake Quote”

Bloody fascists.

8 Professional Poo Flinger  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:13:09pm

re: #6 Vicious Babushka

I tried “Slayer of Fake Quotes” but ran into the Twitter name limit and it came out to “Slayer of Fake Quote”

“I Slay Fake Quotes”

9 researchok  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:13:31pm

Evenin’, all

10 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:13:49pm

re: #5 b_sharp

You need to change your Twitter name. The one you have sounds like you’re the fake.

Try Fraudulent Quote Slayer or Quote Mine Slayer or Slayer of Fake Quotes.

Or just a hyphen: Fake-Quote Slayer.

I realize I know so little about Twitter that I don’t even know if hyphens are allowed in user names.

11 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:15:48pm

It should fall under the category of MEDICINE/HEALTH CARE.

12 Professional Poo Flinger  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:16:32pm

re: #10 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Or just a hyphen: Fake-Quote Slayer.

I realize I know so little about Twitter that I don’t even know if hyphens are allowed in user names.

I have no idea. I didn’t know it had a 20 char limit until just now.

13 Bubblehead II  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:18:03pm

Wonder how this asshole would feel if he had to have a probe shoved up his ass every time he needed to have his Viagra prescription refilled? You know, just to make sure there were no underlying causes.

14 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:18:22pm

Ahh the long arm of the law. I love that drawing.

15 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:18:55pm

TARGETED REGULATION OF ABORTION PROVIDERS (TRAP)

The anti-choice movement has undertaken a campaign to impose unnecessary and burdensome regulations on abortion providers – but not other medical professionals – in an obvious attempt to drive doctors out of practice and make abortion care more expensive and difficult to obtain. Such proposals are known as TRAP laws: Targeted Regulation of Abortion Providers. Common TRAP regulations include those that restrict where abortion care may be provided. Regulations limiting abortion care to hospitals or other specialized facilities, rather than physicians’ offices, require doctors to obtain medically unnecessary additional licenses, needlessly convert their practices into mini-hospitals at a great expense, or provide abortion services only at hospitals, an impossibility in many parts of the country.

Current State Laws
45 states and the District of Columbia have laws subjecting abortion providers to burdensome restrictions not imposed on other medical professionals: AL, AK, AZ, AR, CA, CO, CT, DE, DC, FL, GA, HI, ID, IL, IN, IA, KS, KY, LA, ME, MD, MA, MI, MN, MS, MO, NE, NV, NJ, NM, NY, NC, ND, OH, OK, PA, RI, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WA, WI, WY./blockquote>

16 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:19:03pm

re: #13 Bubblehead II

Wonder how this asshole would feel if he had to have a probe shoved up his ass every time he needed to have his Viagra prescription refilled? You know, just to make sure there were no underlying causes.

No, he would have to have a catheter put up his urethra.

17 Bubblehead II  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:23:41pm

re: #16 Vicious Babushka

No, he would have to have a catheter put up his urethra.

No, I prefer my method. It is more sexually degrading. Which is what these types of “laws” are all about.

18 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:25:33pm
19 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:28:15pm

re: #17 Bubblehead II

No, I prefer my method. It is more sexually degrading. Which is what these types of “laws” are all about.

My way is more painful, and also medically necessary in order to determine how to avoid those erections that last more than 4 hours.

20 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:28:43pm

re: #16 Vicious Babushka

No, he would have to have a catheter put up his urethra.

Sorry, I would not wish that on anyone. Been there, done that after having a kidney stone. :(

21 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:30:29pm

re: #18 FemNaziBitch

WTF? Do people even know what aid is available?

Wingnuts just “assume” that anybody who requires assistance is a tattooed, beer-drinking, smoking, drug-abusing, Honey Boo Boo watching moron who wants a FREE OBAMAPHONE.

22 Bubblehead II  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:34:00pm

re: #19 Vicious Babushka

My way is more painful, and also medically necessary in order to determine how to avoid those erections that last more than 4 hours.

Not looking for pain. Sorry Gus, but males have this macho attitude about pain. I want degradation. The same degradation they want to impose on Women. Nothing more/nothing less

23 anonymous gun expert  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:35:40pm

I guess the Republicans want to lose more elections in 2014.

24 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:40:00pm
In 1972, Kennedy filed tax evasion charges with the Internal Revenue Service against the Catholic Church, saying that their campaign against abortion rights violated the separation of church and state.

On the side of civil rights, Kennedy established the Media Workshop in 1966 to picket and lobby the media over their representation of Black people. She stated that she would lead boycotts of major advertisers if they didn’t feature black people in their ads. She attended all three Black Power conferences and represented H. Rap Brown and the Black Panthers.

Kennedy was known for her flamboyant dress – often in cowboy hats and pink sunglasses – and attitude. Once, to protest the lack of female bathrooms at Harvard, she led a mass urination on the grounds. When asked about this, she said “I’m just a loud-mouthed middle-aged colored lady with a fused spine and three feet of intestines missing and a lot of people think I’m crazy. Maybe you do too, but I never stop to wonder why I’m not like other people. The mystery to me is why more people aren’t like me.” Kennedy was well known for pithy, humorous and highly quotable statements, such as, “If the ass is protecting the system, ass-kicking should be undertaken regardless of the sex, ethnicity, or charm of the ass involved,” and “I know we’re termites. But if all the termites got together, the house would fall down.”[5] In 1974, People magazine wrote that she was “The biggest, loudest and, indisputably, the rudest mouth on the battleground.”

There are some people you just can’t help loving.

25 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:43:10pm

re: #21 Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts just “assume” that anybody who requires assistance is a tattooed, beer-drinking, smoking, drug-abusing, Honey Boo Boo watching moron who wants a FREE OBAMAPHONE.

How about:

“If you can afford a Bible and to tithe to the church you don’t need welfare”

??

26 Kragar  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:43:14pm

GOP Progressivism:

They no longer want to make a woman a criminal for exercising her reproductive rights, they just want to make everything that lets her do it against the law.

27 Kragar  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:43:52pm

re: #25 FemNaziBitch

How about:

“If you can afford a Bible and to tithe to the church you don’t need welfare”

??

If you can afford an AR-15, you don’t need your farm subsidized.

28 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:44:07pm

re: #26 Kragar

GOP Progressivism:

They no longer want to make a woman a criminal for exercising her reproductive rights, they just want to make everything that lets her do it against the law.

NO, they just want to play with words until they get the right combination. The goal hasn’t changed.

29 Kragar  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:45:41pm

re: #28 FemNaziBitch

NO, they just want to play with words until they get the right combination. The goal hasn’t changed.

Well, yeah, but they’re not going to come right out and say that anymore.

PROGRESS!!!

30 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:47:56pm

Excerpt on the local shooting, fits the Bad Crazy theme:

“The man who is believed to be holed up in the Midland City hostage situation following a shooting on a school bus is Jimmy Lee Dykes, 65, who was scheduled to be in court Wednesday for a bench trial on a menacing charge.
James Edward Davis, Jr., who lives near Dykes on Private Road 1539, said Dykes pulled a gun on him and his daughter on Dec. 10 after Dykes believed Davis had driven in Dykes’ yard. Davis said he reported Dykes to the Dale County Sheriff’s Department. Dykes was arrested Dec. 22 and charged with menacing.
Davis said Dykes has lived at a residence on Private Road 1539 for about a year. He said Dykes constructed a “bunker” behind the residence with a PVC pipe leading to the back end of the residence.
“It’s the craziest thing. He will be outside in his yard digging dirt at 2:30 in the morning,” Davis, Jr. said.
Davis, Jr., said police were evacuating houses near Dykes’ residence Tuesday evening.
The suspect, who has not been identified by law enforcement, is reported to be inside an underground bunker by his home, located near Destiny Church off U.S. 231. It is not clear whether the 6-year-old child taken from the bus after the shooting is in the bunker with him.
The incident began a little before 4 p.m. on Tuesday when the gunman got onto a school bus near Destiny Church.
Michael Creel, a neighbor of the suspected shooter, said he went outside after his sister heard gunshots. He saw children running away from the bus and they pointed in the direction the shooter ran.
Creel said a little girl told him the shooter came onto the bus, demanded two children between the ages of 6 and 8 come with him. The bus driver refused and he shot the driver, the little girl told Creel. The shooter then took off with one of the kids.
Carol Shepard, whose daughter was on the bus at the time, said her daughter told her that a male neighbor who lives by them on Private Road 1539 got onto the school bus, shot the bus driver, and then left with a 6-year-old child.

31 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:48:33pm

Out! Damned elephant.

I had to click ‘insert’ to post that from my Images Library.

That ain’t right.

32 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:49:56pm

re: #30 Decatur Deb

Excerpt on the local shooting, fits the Bad Crazy theme:

THATZ WHY ALL SKOOL BUS DRIVERS MUST HAV GUNZ!1!

33 Kragar  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:51:07pm

Tenn. lawmaker: Cut parent’s welfare benefits if child gets poor grades

“Unfortunately we have some families who really don’t care about education, who don’t care if their kids get an education or stay in school, and what we are saying is, if your kid is quitting school, not showing up, showing up at 11 o’clock in his pajamas, that’s not a prepared kid to get an education,” Campfield continued. “We need to do something to motivate these parents to see how important an education is, and unfortunately, the only tool we have left is this cash payment that we make to these families.”

Yeah, because when a kid is having problems at school, making it harder for the family to make ends meet at home is sure to give those kids the boost they need.

Fucking bastards.

34 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:54:19pm

re: #33 Kragar

Tenn. lawmaker: Cut parent’s welfare benefits if child gets poor grades

Yeah, because when a kid is having problems at school, making it harder for the family to make ends meet at home is sure to give those kids the boost they need.

Fucking bastards.

And just think of the vicious cycle that could start in an abusive home.

35 EPR-radar  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:54:40pm

What’s the problem here. Isn’t that where all the jobs are?

36 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:54:45pm

re: #33 Kragar

Tenn. lawmaker: Cut parent’s welfare benefits if child gets poor grades

Yeah, because when a kid is having problems at school, making it harder for the family to make ends meet at home is sure to give those kids the boost they need.

Fucking bastards.

reinforce the guilt message of original sin on kids.

Yeah, that’s a great idea.

/

37 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:54:55pm

re: #30 Decatur Deb

Yikes. I hope they get the kid back alive.

38 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:57:59pm

re: #30 Decatur Deb

Excerpt on the local shooting, fits the Bad Crazy theme:

“The man who is believed to be holed up in the Midland City hostage situation following a shooting on a school bus is Jimmy Lee Dykes, 65, who was scheduled to be in court Wednesday for a bench trial on a menacing charge.
James Edward Davis, Jr., who lives near Dykes on Private Road 1539, said Dykes pulled a gun on him and his daughter on Dec. 10 after Dykes believed Davis had driven in Dykes’ yard. Davis said he reported Dykes to the Dale County Sheriff’s Department. Dykes was arrested Dec. 22 and charged with menacing.
Davis said Dykes has lived at a residence on Private Road 1539 for about a year. He said Dykes constructed a “bunker” behind the residence with a PVC pipe leading to the back end of the residence.
“It’s the craziest thing. He will be outside in his yard digging dirt at 2:30 in the morning,” Davis, Jr. said.
Davis, Jr., said police were evacuating houses near Dykes’ residence Tuesday evening.
The suspect, who has not been identified by law enforcement, is reported to be inside an underground bunker by his home, located near Destiny Church off U.S. 231. It is not clear whether the 6-year-old child taken from the bus after the shooting is in the bunker with him.
The incident began a little before 4 p.m. on Tuesday when the gunman got onto a school bus near Destiny Church.
Michael Creel, a neighbor of the suspected shooter, said he went outside after his sister heard gunshots. He saw children running away from the bus and they pointed in the direction the shooter ran.
Creel said a little girl told him the shooter came onto the bus, demanded two children between the ages of 6 and 8 come with him. The bus driver refused and he shot the driver, the little girl told Creel. The shooter then took off with one of the kids.
Carol Shepard, whose daughter was on the bus at the time, said her daughter told her that a male neighbor who lives by them on Private Road 1539 got onto the school bus, shot the bus driver, and then left with a 6-year-old child.

There was a shooting up in Vancouver, WA and the Vancouver PD have arrested the shooter, who claims he shot and killed a “prowler”. The story really doesn’t say it explicitly, but I suspect that the “prowler” may not have been inside the accused’s house.

My father always told me that shooting an intruder inside the house is fair game, but not outside the house. And you should only shoot (inside the house) if the intruder is clearly armed and poses an imminent threat.

Story is here: [Link: www.columbian.com…]

39 EPR-radar  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:58:02pm

re: #36 FemNaziBitch

reinforce the guilt message of original sin on kids.

Yeah, that’s a great idea.

/

Since the message of the GW Bush administration was “compassionate conservatism”, and it is widely agreed that the GW Bush administration was a failure on many fronts, the conservative response to this is clear:

Enough of this compassion crap. Scrooge —- Chthulu 2016.

40 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:59:27pm

re: #38 Dr Lizardo

Yes, it is my understanding that the person has to be clearly in the house uninvited.

Driveways, front steps, outside a window do not count as imminent danger.

41 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:01:14pm

re: #32 Vicious Babushka

The local news blog commenters are catching up with you:

Windowwisher • an hour ago

I wonder if it has anything to do with that Hari Krishna cult thats right there by the Subway? I live right down the street from where this is going on, Maybe if the bus driver was carrying a gun the situation would be a little different right now.
3 1

(For the record, the ‘Hari Krishna’ facility is a small Hindu temple-in-a-box.)

42 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:01:25pm

“Absolute control over who and when anybody goes into and out of a woman’s vagina.”

I’ll take “What is the deepest compulsive desire of men since the dawn of consciousness - and also, the Republican Party platform” for everything, Alex.

43 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:12:30pm

re: #40 FemNaziBitch

Yes, it is my understanding that the person has to be clearly in the house uninvited.

Driveways, front steps, outside a window do not count as imminent danger.

I’m pretty sure that in the state of Texas, you can actually shoot someone who’s on your property, but Texas is the only state with that law to the best of my knowledge. The Vancouver, WA shooter has been charged with second-degree murder, which jibes with my dad told me all those years ago.

44 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:13:48pm

re: #42 Pawn of the Oppressor

“Absolute control over who and when anybody goes into and out of a woman’s vagina.”

I’ll take “What is the deepest compulsive desire of men since the dawn of consciousness - and also, the Republican Party platform” for everything, Alex.

“Men spend 9 months trying to get out and the rest of their lives trying to get back in”

45 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:15:08pm

re: #43 Dr Lizardo

I’m pretty sure that in the state of Texas, you can actually shoot someone who’s on your property, but Texas is the only state with that law to the best of my knowledge. The Vancouver, WA shooter has been charged with second-degree murder, which jibes with my dad told me all those years ago.

I think there might be something like that in Colorado and the Western States. Seem to remember some “all trespassers will be shot on site” signs” somewhere, sometime.

46 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:15:49pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

The local news blog commenters are catching up with you:

Windowwisher • an hour ago

I wonder if it has anything to do with that Hari Krishna cult thats right there by the Subway? I live right down the street from where this is going on, Maybe if the bus driver was carrying a gun the situation would be a little different right now.
3 1

(For the record, the ‘Hari Krishna’ facility is a small Hindu temple-in-a-box.)

Hari Krishna’s routinely carry firearms to make sure you take their book, flower or whatever they are handing out!

/

47 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:18:52pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

The local news blog commenters are catching up with you:

Windowwisher • an hour ago

I wonder if it has anything to do with that Hari Krishna cult thats right there by the Subway? I live right down the street from where this is going on, Maybe if the bus driver was carrying a gun the situation would be a little different right now.
3 1

(For the record, the ‘Hari Krishna’ facility is a small Hindu temple-in-a-box.)

For Bob’s sake, ignorance and xenophobia piss me off.

48 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:19:02pm

re: #46 FemNaziBitch

Hari Krishna’s routinely carry firearms to make sure you take their book, flower or whatever they are handing out!

/

Lord Krishna loves you, motherf****r! Now take the damned flower!

49 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:19:34pm

re: #45 FemNaziBitch

I think there might be something like that in Colorado and the Western States. Seem to remember some “all trespassers will be shot on site” signs” somewhere, sometime.

That could be; I’ve only heard of the Texas example.

50 jdoc1357  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:21:48pm

“It would be a Class D felony for a doctor to perform an abortion after detecting a heartbeat. The woman would not be subject to prosecution.”

How can they just let the “murderer” go free like that? You’d almost get the impression that the Pro-Liars don’t believe their own lies.

51 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:23:15pm

re: #50 jdoc1357

“It would be a Class D felony for a doctor to perform an abortion after detecting a heartbeat. The woman would not be subject to prosecution.”

How can they just let the “murderer” go free like that? You’d almost get the impression that the Pro-Liars don’t believe their own lies.

It’s so that RWNJs can keep the paramours they impregnate out of prison (and out of the public eye).

52 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:23:25pm

re: #47 FemNaziBitch

For Bob’s sake, ignorance and xenophobia piss me off.

“They wear funny clothes and pray all the time. Must have something to do with that girl that was taken from the bus a gun point”

Yeah, they do clothes that are about 50 years out-of-date and pray all the time, but I think you’ve got the wrong religion.

53 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:25:10pm

Looks like the right wing firehose of hate is turned in my direction tonight on Twitter. My mentions are filling up with dim-witted insults from people who fell for the Daily Caller’s bullshit about the Newtown father.

54 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:26:06pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

Looks like the right wing firehose of hate is turned in my direction tonight on Twitter. My mentions are filling up with dim-witted insults from people who fell for the Daily Caller’s bullshit about the Newtown father.

You are in danger of being relevant, again!

55 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:26:22pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

Looks like the right wing firehose of hate is turned into my direction tonight on Twitter. My mentions are filling up with dim-witted insults from people who fell for the Daily Caller’s bullshit about the Newtown father.

It’s apparently HURR DURR-day today…

56 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:26:51pm

re: #55 TedStriker

It’s apparently HURR DURR-day today…

The HORR ROAR!

57 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:28:24pm

bbl

58 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:29:55pm
59 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:30:26pm

Things that make me angry:

Men who use an absence of ‘the rules’ to rape and abuse women. Also men who use rape as a weapon.

Sexual violence against female protestors at Cairo’s Tahrir Square appears to be increasing, an activist group devoted to end such assaults said Tuesday.

Operation Anti-Sexual Harassment/Assault said it intervened in 15 of 19 reported sexual assaults on Friday when 10,000 people gathered in the square on the two-year anniversary of the start of the revolution that ousted President Hosni Mubarak.

“These attacks represent a startling escalation of violence against women in Tahrir Square in terms of the number of incidents and the extremity of the violence which took place,” the group said in a news release.

The organization said some of the cases involved life-threatening violence where the attackers used knives or other weapons. It said some of its members also were attacked during rescue attempts.

“This phenomenon requires urgent attention and treatment, and is linked to the broader social problem of endemic and daily sexual harassment and assault of women,” Operation Anti-Sexual Harassment/Assault said.

I’ll have more to say about this later. But I wanted to get this story some exposure.

60 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:31:09pm

re: #54 FemNaziBitch

You are in danger of being relevant, again!

It’s been overdue for the RWNJs to start sounding the Klaxon of Kareless Kluelessness…

61 austin_blue  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:34:21pm

Why stop here? Why not require the monitoring of all women during their childbearing years to ensure that their Murdering Vaginas™ don’t spontaneously abort their children?!?!(eleventy)

These people treat women like chattle slaves.

62 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:34:27pm

Hi Lizards! I am so jacked up tonight. Remember when I got the chance to go out with some friends with Oklahoma legion Uwe Von Schmannn? He called me today go come to his SuperBowl Party. I’m stunned - I’ll be posting pics for everybody including him wearing 1 Nation championship ring along with his 2 SB rings. He said I could get a pic with the rings.. Should I? I’m against it generally.. But who knows? This will be the best SB party for me for all time!

63 EPR-radar  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:36:21pm

re: #61 austin_blue

Why stop here? Why not require the monitoring of all women during their childbearing years to ensure that their Murdering VaginasTM don’t spontaneously abort their children?!?!(eleventy)

These people treat women like chattle slaves.

Of course. The Handmaid’s Tale as an instruction manual rather than a dystopic vision.

64 The Mountain That Blogs  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:38:18pm

re: #61 austin_blue

Why stop here? Why not require the monitoring of all women during their childbearing years to ensure that their Murdering Vaginas™ don’t spontaneously abort their children?!?!(eleventy)

Which they do all the time, ergo we should just lock them up. Especially when they go to the ER bleeding. Treating them would be tampering with the evidence, so we should just arrest them. They can stand trial if they don’t bleed to death.

//

65 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:40:40pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

Looks like the right wing firehose of hate is turned in my direction tonight on Twitter. My mentions are filling up with dim-witted insults from people who fell for the Daily Caller’s bullshit about the Newtown father.

They got Anderson Cooper running scared.

66 austin_blue  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:41:02pm

re: #63 EPR-radar

Of course. The Handmaid’s Tale as an instruction manual rather than a dystopic vision.

re: #64

The Mountain That Blogs

Which they do all the time, ergo we should just lock them up. Especially when they go to the ER bleeding. Treating them would be tampering with the evidence, so we should just arrest them. They can stand trial if they don’t bleed to death.

//

Brutal truths, people. Brutal truths.

67 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:42:57pm

Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - I Won’t Back Down

68 austin_blue  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:44:36pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - I Won’t Back Down

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Good choice! (Good pop song, too. Nice hooks.)

69 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:45:22pm

re: #50 jdoc1357

Welcome, hatchling (I missed your first one).

70 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:45:49pm

#RedNationRising is even more fucked up than #TGDN, it’s where the RWNJ’s go who are too extreme for TGDN.

71 Kragar  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:48:28pm

I make a point of trying to discuss the news with my daughters a couple times a week.

My youngest told me her new goal in life is to command a tank.

72 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:48:32pm

re: #70 Vicious Babushka

#RedNationRising is even more fucked up than #TGDN, it’s where the RWNJ’s go who are too extreme for TGDN.

The Commies? The Reds? Wow…..I didn’t know they’d be tweeting on #TGDN.

73 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:48:33pm

DUMBASS, MSNBC DOESN’T HAVE TO EDIT ANYTHING TO MAKE WINGNUTS LOOK BAD.

74 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:51:07pm

re: #72 Dr Lizardo

The Commies? The Reds? Wow…..I didn’t know they’d be tweeting on #TGDN.

RedNation, you know, like RedState, all those red spaces on the map that voted for Mitt Romney but he still lost! THAT PRUVS THEIR WAZ VOTE CHEATIN!1!

75 austin_blue  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:51:51pm

re: #50 jdoc1357

re: #69 wrenchwench

Welcome, hatchling (I missed your first one).

Indeed! Now get thee an appropriate avatar, jdoc! And a little bio with a minimum of info in your account file.

(What part of the world are you in? Are you a self starter? A people person? ///)

76 jaunte  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:52:08pm

re: #73 Vicious Babushka

None of those guys seem to have noticed that Neil Heslin asked why anyone would need a Bushmaster. That question isn’t answered by shouting the Second Amendment at him.

77 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:54:09pm

Yes, when you tell the truth (about Fake Quotes, fake maps, fake statistics and other fake shit) TGDN hates you.

78 austin_blue  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:54:35pm

re: #73 Vicious Babushka

DUMBASS, MSNBC DOESN’T HAVE TO EDIT ANYTHING TO MAKE WINGNUTS LOOK BAD.

Gah! Agreed. The raw footage is damning enough.

79 jaunte  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:55:00pm

“More than a Right-Left battle, the conflict for the world’s future
is between empiricists & fantasists.”
— lloyd ‏@Art_Guy1

80 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:55:04pm

re: #73 Vicious Babushka

When the chair has to admonish audience members not to interrupt a speaker, the word for what they’re doing is “heckling.”

81 anonymous gun expert  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:55:23pm

Did I miss the celebration for the fact that Erick the Red is leaving CNN?

82 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:56:54pm

LOL, they think they’re so badass, but really so freaking lame.

83 austin_blue  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:57:04pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

When the chair has to admonish audience members not to interrupt a speaker, the word for what they’re doing is “heckling.”

Would have been nice to hear “Don’t ease me, bro.” off camera, eh?

84 Kragar  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 5:57:09pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

When the chair has to admonish audience members not to interrupt a speaker, the word for what they’re doing is “heckling.”

More of your fancy liberal “logic” again.

85 Interesting Times  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:00:38pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

When the chair has to admonish audience members not to interrupt a speaker, the word for what they’re doing is “heckling.”

86 jaunte  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:02:22pm

“Why does anyone need a sawed-off shotgun?”
“SECOND AMENDMENT NOT BE INFRINGE!”

87 erik_t  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:05:33pm

Okay, everyone, remember how we’re not too terribly concerned about Argentina mounting any sort of attack on the Falklands?

Argentine destroyer that led war against Britain sinks, a symbol of decay for once-proud navy [WaPo]

BUENOS AIRES, Argentina — Argentina’s defense chief expressed shame Wednesday after a Navy destroyer sank at its moorings, putting on display the declining fortunes of a once-proud fleet.

The ARA Trinidad led Argentina’s 1982 sea war against Britain, but has long been mothballed and used for spare parts to sustain what’s left of Argentina’s Navy.

A Navy statement said that a pipe burst, flooding the ship below decks. Defense Minister Arturo Puricelli denied that cuts to the fleet’s maintenance budget were to blame. He said negligence or “sabotage” were possible and demanded a complete investigation.

We are not concerned about Argentina mounting an attack on the Falklands.

88 ProBosniaLiberal  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:06:13pm

re: #59 Dark_Falcon

I heard allegations that the MB were encouraging this, or even hiring leeches to do this.

Considering how the MB has acted, I believe them.

Egypt is turning out like France in this historical analogy. And we have gotten to a “Reign of Terror” analog yet.

89 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:06:48pm

re: #87 erik_t

They are producing some excellent wines, though.

90 erik_t  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:08:25pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

They are producing some excellent wines, though.

More of a fan of the Columbia Valley, myself, if I want a good red.

91 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:09:44pm

re: #74 Vicious Babushka

RedNation, you know, like RedState, all those red spaces on the map that voted for Mitt Romney but he still lost! THAT PRUVS THEIR WAZ VOTE CHEATIN!1!

Yes, all those red spaces on the map.

All those empty spaces. Where not that many folks live.

How could Romney lose?! ///

92 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:13:29pm

re: #71 Kragar

I make a point of trying to discuss the news with my daughters a couple times a week.

My youngest told me her new goal in life is to command a tank.

It’s hard assed work, very physical work, but if she’s not afraid of that she’ll be able to do it. But she’ll want to work out as a teen to be able to lift the very heavy ammo & parts that are involved.

93 austin_blue  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:13:31pm

re: #82 Vicious Babushka

LOL, they think they’re so badass, but really so freaking lame.

Dear Ironman 1, some facts that may have escaped you;

Some of us Libtards are armed. In fact, more than 3% of us. I like to meat hunt. I’ve got a long rifle for deer. On a nice calm day, my rig can put little 7.62 mm holes in a 2-inch circle at 700 yards. I’ve also got a pump action 12-gauge shotgun for bird hunting, but it can be loaded up with rifled slugs and #2 shot. (Which is the best home protection device ever invented, that #2 shot. Lethal at short range, but it doesn’t kill the neighbors.)

We like the US as it is. We the think the gubmint is often stupid, but that’s the nature of the gubmint under our Constitution. So if you want to start trouble, please come to South Austin to do so. I guarantee you will be unpleasantly surprised at your reception.

94 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:13:36pm
95 Kragar  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:15:57pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

Aint no heckle in the Bible.

96 austin_blue  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:17:19pm

re: #92 William Barnett-Lewis

It’s hard assed work, very physical work, but if she’s not afraid of that she’ll be able to do it. But she’ll want to work out as a teen to be able to lift the very heavy ammo & parts that are involved.

That’s why Zeus made enlisted pukes.

///

97 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:19:30pm
98 anonymous gun expert  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:19:35pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

Dictionaries are liberal propaganda.

99 Professional Poo Flinger  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:20:16pm

re: #98 Iwouldprefernotto

Dictionaries are liberal propaganda.

Crap, they’re on to us.

100 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:20:21pm

This one:

101 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:20:47pm

re: #96 austin_blue

That’s why Zeus made enlisted pukes.

///

NCO’s still run the army though.

102 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:22:22pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

This one:

[Embedded content]

G overnment E mployee I nsurance CO mpany

Talk about scope creep…

103 EPR-radar  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:26:27pm

re: #98 Iwouldprefernotto

Dictionaries are liberal propaganda.

Reality is liberal propaganda, and therefore must be denied.

104 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:27:15pm

re: #87 erik_t

Okay, everyone, remember how we’re not too terribly concerned about Argentina mounting any sort of attack on the Falklands?

We are not concerned about Argentina mounting an attack on the Falklands.

The navy is not alone. The Argentine Air Force, which elicited much admiration for its valiant and sometimes all-too-successful attacks on British forces, reportedly has no more than 20 combat aircraft in operational condition at any one time. These are of the same basic types, Mirage III/Vs and A-4 Skyhawks, that figured in the 1982 war, though the A-4s are much more capable “M” models supplied in the 90s.

105 jaunte  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:28:26pm

The memo suggests that Republican senators and congressmen refer to “undocumented immigrant[s]” rather than “illegals” or “aliens” and that they never use the phrase “anchor babies.” It also warns Republicans against using the term “amnesty” to describe the plan, and suggests attacking President Obama for not pushing earlier for a plan.

Here’s the full list:
[Link: thehill.com…]

106 PT Barnum  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:28:58pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

Yeah..I saw that the other day and thought…Is she into beastiality, is that’s what’s going on?

I thought about moving to Sydney and creating a beastiality and bondage bar called “Tie Me Kangaroo Down”

107 PT Barnum  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:30:03pm

re: #105 jaunte

I really wish they couldn’t get away with this crap, but experience says they will.

108 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:30:28pm

re: #105 jaunte

“Not pushing earlier for a plan”? Where has the GOP been on this shit, eh? Oh right, they dropped it like it was hot after the base scared them into killing it dead during Dubya’s presidency.

109 EPR-radar  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:31:35pm

re: #107 Nervous Norvous

There are many people who will happily vote for a GOP that doesn’t say the crazy/hateful stuff in public (just votes for it, or against any attempt at mitigation) because the Democrats are “bad on taxes” or some such drivel.

110 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:32:38pm

re: #90 erik_t

Argentine temparillo is quite good as well as malbecs. Better value than some California or European reds.

111 jaunte  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:32:51pm

re: #108 Targetpractice

“When broadly addressing reforms:
Do acknowledge that President Obama broke his promise and failed to propose any immigration reform for five years, while using this issue as a political wedge”

“We think you’re all stupid” is the GOP’s form of outreach to potential Hispanic voters.

112 PT Barnum  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:33:01pm

re: #109 EPR-radar

There are many people who will happily vote for a GOP that doesn’t say the crazy/hateful stuff in public (just votes for it, or against any attempt at mitigation) because the Democrats are “bad on taxes” or some such drivel.

I blame the lack of emphasis on critical thinking in our schools. One of the many reasons the GOP doesn’t want to fund education.

113 PT Barnum  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:33:47pm

re: #111 jaunte

“We think you’re all stupid” is the GOP’s form of outreach to potential Hispanic voters.

That’s their outreach to everybody. Unfortunately, they’re right at least 27% of the time. The rest is just tribablism.

114 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:34:48pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

Dictionaries have a liberal bias. /

115 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:35:11pm

re: #112 Gorgon Zola Champion of Cheese

I blame the lack of emphasis on critical thinking in our schools. One of the many reasons the GOP doesn’t want to fund education.

It’s easier to manipulate prospective voters when they have no fucking clue about what’s really going on in the world and no inclination to find out, because they get it spoon-fed to them by people who use fear of the other to get them on their side.

116 EPR-radar  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:36:54pm

re: #115 TedStriker

It’s easier to manipulate prospective voters when they have no fucking clue about what’s really going on in the world and no inclination to find out.

Yes. Get voters distracted by fighting a culture war, so they can be robbed blind by big business et al.

117 PT Barnum  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:37:12pm

re: #115 TedStriker

It’s easier to manipulate prospective voters when they have no fucking clue about what’s really going on in the world and no inclination to find out.

Sadly enough, that’s a large portion of the population. My oldest son is just such a knucklehead.

My youngest son floored me the other day when we were talking and he referenced Sumer in Mesopotamia and the Code of Hamurabi all in one sentence. I think he’s gonna be okay.

He’s got a bad cough right now, so we’re going to take him to the doc tomorrow I think, depending on how much snow we get.

118 EPR-radar  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:38:21pm

re: #117 PT Barnum

It helps to know that history does not begin with George Washington’s (fictional) cherry tree.

119 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:40:24pm

re: #111 jaunte

“We think you’re all stupid” is the GOP’s form of outreach to potential Hispanic voters.

Hence why they got Rubio out there now, saying how “concerned” he is that Obama’s proposal doesn’t hinge like the Senate version’s does on Republican state governors signing off on border security.

120 PT Barnum  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:41:29pm

re: #118 EPR-radar

Oh yeah. I was really into mythology at that age. Had read both the D’Aulaires books of Greek and Norse Mythology and had moved on to Egyptian mythology as well. Got to go to the Oriental Institute in Chicago too. THat was really cool.

He makes me proud though.

121 PT Barnum  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:42:17pm

re: #119 Targetpractice

Hence why they got Rubio out there now, saying how “concerned” he is that Obama’s proposal doesn’t hinge like the Senate version’s does on Republican state governors signing off on border security.

I’m “concerned” that Rubio is a slimy politician with weasels in his pants.

122 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:43:25pm
123 jaunte  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:43:50pm

re: #121 PT Barnum

“Comadrejas en sus pantalones.”

124 dragonath  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:48:58pm

Uh…

Non-serving freshman Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) says Vietnam combat vets Kerry and Hagel are “not ardent fans of the US military.”

Jump forward to 37 minutes into the video …

125 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:50:53pm

re: #121 PT Barnum

I’m “concerned” that Rubio is a slimy politician with weasels in his pants.

Indeed, he showed “concern” after Obama’s press conference, which of course was later in the day from his appearance on Rush the Hutt’s show, where he openly declared that the point of getting the Senate framework out yesterday was to beat Obama to the punch so that, when negotiations inevitably fall through because the base is going apeshit, the GOP has an “escape hatch.”

126 PT Barnum  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:51:25pm

re: #124 dragonath

Uh…

It’s easy to be a fan when your only experience in combat is playing Call Of Duty with an invulnarability cheat code

(don’t know that there is such a thing, but there used to be for all the old school FPS games)

127 PT Barnum  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:52:36pm

re: #125 Targetpractice

Indeed, he showed “concern” after Obama’s press conference, which of course was later in the day from his appearance on Rush the Hutt’s show, where he openly declared that the point of getting the Senate framework out yesterday was to beat Obama to the punch so that, when negotiations inevitably fall through because the base is going apeshit, the GOP has an “escape hatch.”

I think he should just say “If you pass it, I’ll sign it” and let them stew in their own slurry

128 dragonath  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:56:16pm

re: #126 PT Barnum

Well, Romney wanted Bolton as Secretary of State, the biggest fan of the military evar:

He wrote in his Yale 25th reunion book “I confess I had no desire to die in a Southeast Asian rice paddy. I considered the war in Vietnam already lost.”[16] In an interview, Bolton discussed his comment in the reunion book, explaining that he decided to avoid service in Vietnam because “by the time I was about to graduate in 1970, it was clear to me that opponents of the Vietnam War had made it certain we could not prevail, and that I had no great interest in going there to have Teddy Kennedy give it back to the people I might die to take it away from.”

129 Renaissance_Man  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:57:54pm

For Gus, from the previous thread:

Your ankle is not broken and does not need an xray if you are able to do the following:

1) Press immediately anterior and posterior to the lateral malleolus (bump on outside of ankle) without a sharp increase in pain;
2) Weight bear with tolerable pain.

Assuming you can, it is a sprain and needs only elevation and ice.

130 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:58:31pm

re: #128 dragonath

Well, Romney wanted Bolton as Secretary of State, the biggest fan of the military evar:

What a nasty, cowardly piece of work…

131 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:01:27pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

It means she thinks the guy she’s with is a stinkin pig. It’s a metaphor!

132 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:01:31pm

re: #124 dragonath

Uh…

Once upon a time as I was running up a hill called “Agony” at Ft Knox during basic training, I never thought that I’d see so many white feathered republican chicken hawks infesting my nation.

133 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:05:08pm

re: #132 William Barnett-Lewis

Once upon a time as I was running up a hill called “Agony” at Ft Knox during basic training, I never thought that I’d see so many white feathered republican chicken hawks infesting my nation.

Personally, I never thought I’d see the day when being a draft dodger was politically acceptable for a Republican.

134 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:06:56pm

re: #133 Targetpractice

Personally, I never thought I’d see the day when being a draft dodger was politically acceptable for a Republican.

IOKIYAR

135 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:08:12pm

LOL FAIL

136 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:09:26pm

Anyone else hearing muttering about some draft report leaked by a person at the IPCC?

137 dragonath  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:11:16pm

Erick Erickson leaving CNN for Fox News

Also Carville and Matalin are leaving CNN, which is probably the best news in the history of cable.

138 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:14:56pm

Whoa I hit a nerve!

139 The Mountain That Blogs  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:15:57pm

re: #135 Vicious Babushka

Like Paul Ryan?

140 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:16:51pm

Like they don’t deserve it? Behold the Firehose of Hate.

141 jaunte  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:18:32pm

re: #140 Vicious Babushka

Military do not organize in unions, requesting more benefits, wages and retirement packages.

So, after serving the country for twenty years, my master sergeant son-in-law is finding it hard to get work. Thanks for your service!

142 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:20:16pm

re: #132 William Barnett-Lewis

Once upon a time as I was running up a hill called “Agony” at Ft Knox during basic training, I never thought that I’d see so many white feathered republican chicken hawks infesting my nation.

Have done Agony and Misery, 1965.

143 dragonath  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:21:16pm
144 Gus  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:24:43pm

re: #140 Vicious Babushka

Like they don’t deserve it? Behold the Firehose of Hate.

I don’t know how you can do it. I have a tendency to fall under pressure on Twitter.

145 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:29:33pm

re: #144 Gus

I don’t know how you can do it. I have a tendency to fall under pressure on Twitter.

It’s like watching a whole bunch of train wrecks in slow motion. I just can’t look away.

Once in a while someone will tweet me back “Thanks for the heads up on that fake quote, I will look them up from now on!”

Screaming meltdowns like @IAMINTOSAVINGS are also rare.

146 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:30:22pm

re: #144 Gus

I don’t know how you can do it. I have a tendency to fall under pressure on Twitter.

I hope you get that ankle looked at. Being disabled for life sucks.

147 engineer cat  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:30:44pm

re: #137 dragonath

Erick Erickson leaving CNN for Fox News

jonah goldberg leaving mother’s basement for mother’s spare attic room

148 Interesting Times  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:30:52pm

Holy ever-living fuck:

And no, it doesn’t appear to be a parody account.

149 Gus  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:32:10pm

re: #146 Vicious Babushka

I hope you get that ankle looked at. Being disabled for life sucks.

That’s the plan. Short of a miracle (yes I used that word) I’m going in tomorrow.

150 gwangung  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:33:37pm

re: #143 dragonath

Dog whistle sounds like a kazoo

Lindsey Graham: Hillary Clinton ‘got away with murder’

Translation from wing nut: “I got schooled and schooled badly when I had my chance at asking questions.”

151 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:34:06pm

re: #148 Interesting Times

Holy ever-living fuck:

And no, it doesn’t appear to be a parody account.

Hatred consumes.

152 Interesting Times  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:34:16pm

re: #149 Gus

Did you see Renaissance Man’s #129 above?

153 Gus  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:37:09pm

re: #152 Interesting Times

Did you see Renaissance Man’s #129 above?

Saw your Tweet. Yeah, it might not be broken. I’m worried about a torn ligament. I remember when I had a hairline fracture I could not get up on that foot. Not one tiny bit. Of course that’s when I was 12 years old. I can get a ride tomorrow.

154 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:37:13pm

The shooting issue in Alabama is still not resolved. The nutcase is reported to be holed up in a bunker near his house and a church. It’s not reported if the child (a boy, now) is in there with him. He has communicated with the cops. He was arrested in Dec for ‘menacing’ a neighbor and his daughter with a gun. Court appearance was set for tomorrow. Schoolbus driver was killed resisting the abduction.

155 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:37:51pm

‘Nite, all.

156 Gus  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:38:04pm

Not one tiny but! Woops. Bit. :D The pain kind of gives me a buzz sometimes.

157 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:38:23pm

re: #142 Decatur Deb

Have done Agony and Misery, 1965.

Did you get to do your road march up Heartbreak as well? That damn mountain went on forever…

158 Interesting Times  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:38:38pm

re: #151 TedStriker

Hatred consumes.

This is her timeline - you (and anyone else willing to hold their nose and look) tell me - parody or real?

159 Jalal bin Smokin?  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:38:40pm

re: #143 dragonath

Dog whistle sounds like a kazoo

Lindsey Graham: Hillary Clinton ‘got away with murder’

…and it’s playing Yakety Sax.

160 The Mountain That Blogs  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:39:56pm

re: #148 Interesting Times

And no, it doesn’t appear to be a parody account.

I’m not so sure about that. Went back to the beginning, and the first few tweets were from early to mid 2011 and were all retweets, mostly from the Onion. Starts tweeting from the account back in October saying things like this:

and then started ranting about how Hurricane Sandy didn’t exist:

This can’t be real.

161 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:41:08pm

re: #158 Interesting Times

This is her timeline - you (and anyone else willing to hold their nose and look) tell me - parody or real?

There comes a time when parody is no different from the evil it’s allegedly parodying. No matter what else, that statement was pure old fashioned evil.

162 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:41:22pm

re: #157 William Barnett-Lewis

Don’t remember a hill nic’ed ‘Heartbreak’ from that era. GI slang morphs. I did a bunch of paperwork over an HET/M60 that lost brakes on Agony. The rig stopped suddenly at the bottom, and the tank went through the cab. Driver jumped—good instincts.

163 engineer cat  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:42:32pm

re: #160 The Mountain That Blogs

i think i was absent the day they covered proving hurricanes

164 Varek Raith  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:46:42pm

re: #163 engineer cat

i think i was absent the day they covered proving hurricanes

Image: sandy_0.jpeg

165 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:46:59pm

re: #148 Interesting Times

Holy ever-living fuck:

And no, it doesn’t appear to be a parody account.

Bitch, that’s the only word I have for that overgrown girl whose hateful immaturity makes her unworthy of being called a woman.

166 Gus  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:47:15pm

The whiskey helps. :D

167 engineer cat  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:48:01pm

re: #164 Varek Raith

Image: sandy_0.jpeg

totally shopped, d00d

168 Interesting Times  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:49:55pm

re: #165 Dark_Falcon

Bitch, that’s the only word I have for that overgrown girl whose hateful immaturity makes her unworthy of being called a woman.

See #160 from Mountain that Blogs - it might be a parody after all, albeit a particularly dark and sick one.

169 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:52:08pm

re: #168 Interesting Times

See #160 from Mountain that Blogs - it might be a parody after all, albeit a particularly dark and sick one.

I don’t care; There are things that are simply indecent to say, parody or not.

170 dragonath  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:52:46pm

re: #168 Interesting Times

See #160 from Mountain that Blogs - it might be a parody after all, albeit a particularly dark and sick one.

Yeah, I’m not laughing either. It’s imitation edgy snark™.

171 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:53:11pm

I thought the interview with Greta and Hillary was excellent. Fox could take a clue from Her.

172 Gus  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:54:23pm

re: #168 Interesting Times

See #160 from Mountain that Blogs - it might be a parody after all, albeit a particularly dark and sick one.

Yeah. Even then that’s still creepy.

174 Interesting Times  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:55:46pm

re: #170 dragonath

Yeah, I’m not laughing either. It’s imitation edgy snarkTM.

Or simply an attempt to make the GOP base look debased (as if TGDN doesn’t do a good-enough job on its own!)

175 klys  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:55:52pm

re: #164 Varek Raith

Image: sandy_0.jpeg

You mean the Earth’s not flat? //

Also, hi.

176 dragonath  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:58:13pm

re: #174 Interesting Times

Nah, I’m not sure they really need the help when they’re pouring out hate speech on an industrial scale.

177 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:02:44pm

Hard to guess. Evening people.

179 Professional Poo Flinger  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:06:57pm

re: #135 Vicious Babushka

LOL FAIL

Up here private companies poach workers from gov’t jobs. Especially upper level jobs.

180 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:07:14pm

re: #174 Interesting Times

Or simply an attempt to make the GOP base look debased (as if TGDN doesn’t do a good-enough job on its own!)

That would be the worst scenario of the three.

Reply to Parody Vile Hate-Tweet: “You stupid fuck…”

Reply to Genuine Vile Hate-Tweet: “You sick fuck…”

Reply to False Flag Vile Hate-Tweet: “You evil fuck…”

181 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:08:38pm

re: #179 b_sharp

Up here private companies poach workers from gov’t jobs. Especially upper level jobs.

That happens down here, too. But you can’t say that around wingnuts; It makes their heads explode.

182 Mich-again  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:14:49pm

I had a fringe FB friend who I unfriended after she posted a side by side picture of Michelle Obama next to a monkey with the caption, “separated at birth?” I sent a quick message, your racist picture was disgusting, adios. So I get back this explanation..

No, Jim. Racism is an indictment against an entire GROUP of people as somehow being less than human. Not an individual. I don’t believe that any so-called “race” is superior to another. And I don’t believe that Michelle Obama is less than human. Call it low brow, but don’t call it “racist” unless you fully understand the term. K?

Oh and this is an alleged devout person who has a picture of Mary for her profile picture. This is the GOP.

183 Jalal bin Smokin?  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:16:26pm

re: #171 HoosierHoops

I thought the interview with Greta and Hillary was excellent. Fox could take a clue from Her.

Greta was shitting all over Hillary last week.

184 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:18:46pm

re: #86 jaunte

“Why does anyone need a sawed-off shotgun?”
“SECOND AMENDMENT NOT BE INFRINGE!”

Sawed off shotguns are popular in Costa Rica. They get around the question of who needs what by requiring a psychological examination, background check, written test and practical shooting exam before any firearm can be purchased.

185 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:19:25pm

re: #183 Jalal bin Smokin?

Greta was shitting all over Hillary last week.

Pre existing condition.

186 Mich-again  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:20:03pm

re: #184 goddamnedfrank

Sawed off shotguns are popular in Costa Rica. They get around the question of who needs what by requiring a psychological examination, background check, written test and practical shooting exam before any firearm can be purchased.

THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE SAWED OFF!

187 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:22:35pm

re: #183 Jalal bin Smokin?

Greta was shitting all over Hillary last week.

I don’t know.. She gave a very fair and in depth interview with Hillary.
I was not only impressed but it was refreshing to hear.

188 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:23:21pm

re: #185 goddamnedfrank

Pre existing condition.

Obsessive Clinton-bashing is something of a conservative tradition.

189 Gus  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:25:41pm

re: #187 HoosierHoops

I don’t know.. She gave a very fair and in depth interview with Hillary.
I was not only impressed but it was refreshing to hear.

I could never figure her out. She’s almost there but then falls short at a later time. It’s like she goes wingnut from time to time to lay claim to her Fox News bonafides. Not like she keeps me up at night or anything.

190 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:26:20pm

re: #182 Mich-again

I had a fringe FB friend who I unfriended after she posted a side by side picture of Michelle Obama next to a monkey with the caption, “separated at birth?” I sent a quick message, your racist picture was disgusting, adios. So I get back this explanation..

Oh and this is an alleged devout person who has a picture of Mary for her profile picture. This is the GOP.

Stupid is as stupid does. Yeesh though.

191 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:27:21pm

Greta’s habit of talking out of the side of her mouth ala Dick Cheney always kind of weirded me out but then again I have weird quirks too that I don’t notice until I see myself on camera.

192 LWNJ  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:30:16pm

re: #153 Gus

Saw your Tweet. Yeah, it might not be broken. I’m worried about a torn ligament. I remember when I had a hairline fracture I could not get up on that foot. Not one tiny bit. Of course that’s when I was 12 years old. I can get a ride tomorrow.

I had a pulled ligament (not torn) when I was in my teens. Incredibly painful. Couldn’t even set foot to the floor. Gone in four days.

193 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:30:31pm

re: #189 Gus

I could never figure her out. She’s almost there but then falls short at a later time. It’s like she goes wingnut from time to time to lay claim to her Fox News bonafides. Not like she keeps me up at night or anything.

That is what is surprising..And why i noticed.. She tries to go mainstream but Benghazi type stories pay her paycheck.( And you can tell )

194 jaunte  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:41:45pm

Scholar At Conservative Think Tank Basically Tells Other Conservatives To Shut Up About The National Debt

In fact, austerity could just about be the silliest thing to do, if Congress wants the debt-to-GDP ratio to fall:

If fiscal austerity is applied too rapidly, US growth will drop and the debt-to-GDP ratio will rise, boosting the nation’s debt burden. If the Fed tries to stem the rise with too much money printing, inflation could rise and drive up interest rates, exacerbating the US debt burden.

Congress and the president need to avoid excessive austerity with respect to changes in fiscal policy this year. Over the past four years, on average, the fiscal boost applied to the American economy has been worth about 3 percent of GDP. This year, with tax increases and sequestration, fiscal drag will be about 1.5 percent of GDP.

195 jaunte  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:45:09pm
196 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:46:08pm

re: #194 jaunte

Scholar At Conservative Think Tank Basically Tells Other Conservatives To Shut Up About The National Debt

Of course, in related news, the IMF came out the other day and told Britain to ease the fuck off austerity.

197 Mich-again  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:47:28pm

re: #194 jaunte

In other words, listen to Paul Krugman.

198 palomino  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:48:24pm

re: #82 Vicious Babushka

3% of the US is 10 million people. I find it hard to believe the “patriots” could motivate and organize even a fraction of that number to take up arms against our politicians, law enforcement, military, etc.

199 Gus  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:48:41pm

Pow. What a trip. So much pain.

200 jaunte  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:48:43pm

“We think this would be a good time to take stock,” said Olivier Blanchard.
[Link: www.bbc.co.uk…]

201 palomino  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:53:34pm

Question: Is anyone on the federal level talking about actual confiscation of guns that were legally obtained? Even AR-15s?

My recollection of the 90’s AR gun ban was that if you bought one before a certain date, it was still perfectly legal to own it.

Where does the Obama “is coming to take all our guns” meme originate? Does it just spring from the same well that’s given us similar anti-Obama rhetorical hysteria regarding birth certificates, Kenya, Islam, terrorism, etc?

202 Jalal bin Smokin?  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:55:38pm

re: #201 palomino

Question: Is anyone on the federal level talking about actual confiscation of guns that were legally obtained? Even AR-15s?

My recollection of the 90’s AR gun ban was that if you bought one before a certain date, it was still perfectly legal to own it.

Where does the Obama “is coming to take all our guns” meme originate? Does it just spring from the same well that’s given us similar anti-Obama rhetorical hysteria regarding birth certificates, Kenya, Islam, terrorism, etc?

No they aren’t, just new sales, same as the last time. I have a SKS and it’s banned in CA.

203 Targetpractice  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:58:13pm

re: #200 jaunte

“We think this would be a good time to take stock,” said Olivier Blanchard.
[Link: www.bbc.co.uk…]

Basically everybody’s saying again what they said back in ‘08: Crash course austerity does nothing but strip money out an economy in dire need of it when people are going to ground. There is no confidence fairy who will rise up in the wake of falling deficits and make up the difference in meteoric growth.

204 jaunte  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:58:23pm

re: #201 palomino

I was just reading a Jonathan Chait piece, in which this helpful phrase appeared:

“… a helpful window into a social problem, in which millions of conservatives are held in a constant state of bug-eyed rage because they’re being manipulated for financial and ideological profit by right-wing pseudo-journalists.” [Link: nymag.com…]

It might be a partial explanation.

205 sagehen  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:08:41pm

apropos of nothing:

206 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:11:42pm

re: #164 Varek Raith

Image: sandy_0.jpeg

Obviously a Photoshop job!

207 Mich-again  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:15:04pm

re: #201 palomino

Where does the Obama “is coming to take all our guns” meme originate?

It’s pretty simple. The NRA represents the gun manufacturers. True, 4% of gun owners do belong to the NRA as well, but that means 96% of gun owners decided not to join, so the NRA can’t make a legitimate claim to represent all gun owners. Of course they do, but thats just BS. The NRA exists to make sure gun makers are profitable.

Now, guns last a really really long time and their designs don’t really change much over time. I learned that here from the gun pushers who educated me that the AR 15 hasn’t really changed in decades. So making guns is not anything at all like making toasters, or cars, or TV’s. once your customer has guns, he is good.

So, keeping in mind that the mission of the NRA is to keep gun makers profitable and that means cranking out more and more weapons, and that customers don’t need to replace the ones they already have, that means the NRA has to either 1) convince existing customers they need MOAR GUNZ! or 2) convince people who don’t already own guns that they need to go out and buy some.

Thus Wayne LaPierre and his raving speeches that warn people that Uncle Obama is coming to make gun purchases illegal and to confiscate the guns they already have. .

208 Gus  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:24:46pm
209 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:25:21pm

The gun nuts are out in force tonight. There’s a major push-back effort against the heckling story — obviously they understand how bad it makes them look.

210 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:28:40pm

Goodnight, all.

211 austin_blue  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:28:48pm

re: #208 Gus

Gollee!

212 Jalal bin Smokin?  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:29:05pm

re: #208 Gus

I remember seeing his dinner show at Lake Tahoe around 1970. He’s a great singer. I’m happy for him and his partner.

213 Gus  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:30:03pm
214 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:30:15pm

re: #148 Interesting Times

It was a lot simpler time back in the AOL days when nutjobs like that only had chat rooms and weren’t capable of spreading their derp far and wide for all to see.

215 jaunte  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:30:45pm

Stephen King’s Guns for Kindle:
[Link: www.amazon.com…]

In a pulls-no-punches essay intended to provoke rational discussion, Stephen King sets down his thoughts about gun violence in America. Anger and grief in the wake of the shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School are palpable in this urgent piece of writing, but no less remarkable are King’s keen thoughtfulness and composure as he explores the contours of the gun-control issue and constructs his argument for what can and should be done.

King’s earnings from the sale of this essay will go the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

216 Mich-again  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:31:23pm

re: #209 Charles Johnson

The gun nuts are out in force tonight. There’s a major push-back effort against the heckling story — obviously they understand how bad it makes them look.

They have made Fred Phelps look mainstream.

217 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:31:40pm

I loved Gomer Pyle. Good for you Jim!!!Shazam!!

218 Mich-again  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:35:51pm

re: #217 Amory Blaine

I loved Gomer Pyle. Good for you Jim!!!Shazam!!

How about Sergeant Carter? If he hadn’t been there every step of the way Gomer would have been sent back to Mayberry RFD to pump gas with Goober.

219 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:36:15pm

re: #198 palomino

3% of the US is 10 million people. I find it hard to believe the “patriots” could motivate and organize even a fraction of that number to take up arms against our politicians, law enforcement, military, etc.

It would take all of their might coordinating convoys for gas runs so they could eat at the Chick-fil-a drive thru.

220 Jalal bin Smokin?  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:36:40pm
221 Gus  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:38:27pm

re: #220 Jalal bin Smokin?

Gomer Pyle - Impossible Dream

Who knew. //

222 Gus  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:39:41pm
223 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:40:22pm

re: #218 Mich-again

Spin off shows can get lucky. Green Acres, Gomer Pyle, Mork and Mindy, Three’s a Crowd (j/k about the last one).

224 austin_blue  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:42:00pm

Night all. Sweet dreams.

It’ll be interesting tomorrow to see how the gun lobby tries to spin the morons who interrupted the description by the father of the death of his six year old child by yelling (Second Amendment!).

225 Mich-again  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:43:46pm

re: #223 Amory Blaine

Spin off shows can get lucky. Green Acres, Gomer Pyle, Mork and Mindy, Three’s a Crowd (j/k about the last one).

The Jeffersons, Maude, Petticoat Junction. Frasier..

226 sagehen  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:45:30pm

re: #225 Mich-again

The Jeffersons, Maude, Petticoat Junction. Frasier..

Stargate Atlantis. Crusade. Torchwood.

227 LWNJ  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:45:53pm

re: #199 Gus

Pow. What a trip. So much pain.

Gus, I came in on this late — you have iced it, haven’t you? That also helped with my ligament saga. Eventually.

(Of course you have… just asking….)

228 Jalal bin Smokin?  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:47:57pm

re: #227 LWNJ

Gus, I came in on this late — you have iced it, haven’t you? That also helped with my ligament saga. Eventually.

(Of course you have… just asking….)

Also 800 mg Motrin 4x a day.

229 Gus  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:48:11pm
230 Gus  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:48:34pm

re: #227 LWNJ

Gus, I came in on this late — you have iced it, haven’t you? That also helped with my ligament saga. Eventually.

(Of course you have… just asking….)

On and off.

231 Mich-again  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:56:08pm

re: #230 Gus

On and off.

just because.. So a few years back I sprained my ankle so bad I could hardly walk..uh screwing around on a trampoline.. later that night we went to Quaker Steak and Lube in Sharon PA. and I order the Atomic Wings.. Just about kills me, the next morning I wake up, and the ankle is fine.

Try massive amounts of Capsaicin. no kidding.

232 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:56:16pm

re: #220 Jalal bin Smokin?

Gomer Pyle - Impossible Dream

Holy shit…

I always knew he had a set of pipes on him, but damn that was powerful stuff.

233 Gus  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:57:22pm

re: #231 Mich-again

just because.. So a few years back I sprained my ankle so bad I could hardly walk..uh screwing around on a trampoline.. later that night we went to Quaker Steak and Lube in Sharon PA. and I order the Atomic Wings.. Just about kills me, the next morning I wake up, and the ankle is fine.

Try massive amounts of Capsaicin. no kidding.

Doing OK. Better then I expected.

234 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 10:00:40pm

re: #223 Amory Blaine

Spin off shows can get lucky. Green Acres, Gomer Pyle, Mork and Mindy, Three’s a Crowd (j/k about the last one).

re: #225 Mich-again

The Jeffersons, Maude, Petticoat Junction. Frasier..

re: #226 sagehen

Stargate Atlantis. Crusade. Torchwood.

The Facts of Life, Laverne and Shirley

235 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 10:01:19pm

The Milwaukee Journals dreamboat, Paul Ryan

Ryan’s hope: a new, and smarter, Republican Party

Paul Ryan and other Republican leaders are busy scratching out the old image of the Republican Party and rapidly trying to create a new one.

After a disappointing loss in November to President Barack Obama and the Democrats, Ryan, the congressman from Janesville and the GOP’s vice presidential candidate, is emphasizing “prudence.”

In so many words, Ryan is saying: Let’s stop being so dumb.

Or, as Bobby Jindal, the governor of Louisiana, put it so well the other day: “We must stop being the stupid party. It’s time for a new Republican Party that talks like adults.”

We quite agree. For too long, Republicans have talked down to their own voters (something, by the way, that Democrats are sometimes inclined to do as well).

Now, in speeches around the country - and in a meeting with the Editorial Board on Monday - Ryan sketched out a new version of the Republican message that on its face sounds more reasonable.

Believe. In the dream.

236 jaunte  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 10:06:12pm

re: #235 Amory Blaine

Thomas Mann and Norman Ornstein: “The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.”
—Thomas Mann and Norman Ornstein
[Link: pressthink.org…]

I don’t think just one year is enough to turn it around.

237 TedStriker  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 10:07:50pm

re: #235 Amory Blaine

The Milwaukee Journals dreamboat, Paul Ryan

Ryan’s hope: a new, and smarter, Republican Party

Believe. In the dream.

This is rich:

In so many words, Ryan is saying: Let’s stop being so dumb.

Or, as Bobby Jindal, the governor of Louisiana, put it so well the other day: “We must stop being the stupid party. It’s time for a new Republican Party that talks like adults.”

We quite agree. For too long, Republicans have talked down to their own voters (something, by the way, that Democrats are sometimes inclined to do as well).

That’s so much unvarnished BS right there, the MBF’s gonna throw her back out.

(Establishment) Republicans “talk down” and pander to the TPer/barely-disguised bigot/Bible-thumper base because they know that today’s GOP can’t win elections without them. I don’t really see it from the Democrats, not like that.

Note to the GOP muckety-mucks: when you try to catch the tiger by the tail, don’t be surprised if you eventually wind up getting the claws.

238 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 10:09:22pm

All/any criticism of republicans is accompanied by the required MBF in my hometown newspaper. They know who butters their bread.

239 Mattand  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 10:11:06pm

re: #209 Charles Johnson

The gun nuts are out in force tonight. There’s a major push-back effort against the heckling story — obviously they understand how bad it makes them look.

Sort of touched on this in the previous thread, but what’s becoming apparent is that to a lot of people, guns are clearly more important than children in their world. What make this even more fucked up is that many of these people are actually parents.

To these people, Sandy Hook is a “you can’t make an omelette without breaking a few eggs” type of situation. Sandy Hook is acceptable losses. And for the most part, every discussion around guns gets morphed into “The scary black man wants my personal arsenal.”

I have to agree with many other LGF readers in that these people are spoiling for a fight. They wan their Ruby Ridge, their Bushmaster-powered Shays Rebellion. Egged on by the GOP, Fox News, Limbaugh, and their own pathetic paranoia, it’s a matter of time before these fuckwits provoke a fire fight with some government organization.

We keep going down the path we’re going, these horrible excuses for Americans are going to get more dead children and cops for their twisted little “war” on guns. Hopefully, we can manage to stay out of the crossfire

240 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 10:12:16pm

BTW I believe only 1 of the members of the Milwaukee Journal editorial board actually lives in Milwaukee. James Causey. They are an occupying force from outside of the city. A joke of a paper.

241 LWNJ  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 10:14:40pm

Good night, everyone. Gus, I hope that ankle recovers fast!

242 Kragar  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 10:15:14pm

re: #124 dragonath

Uh…

Says the chickenshit bastard who never enlisted.

244 Destro  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 10:18:25pm

LOOK AT IT!!! LOOK AT IT!!!

245 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 10:20:25pm

re: #243 Kragar

Oooh. I’ll have to watch. Half way throguh my vacation tonight. QQ

246 sagehen  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 10:23:37pm

So I just finished watching the final episode of “Last Resort” — I’m so pleased the cancellation came to the writer/producer with enough notice that they could wrap it up satisfactorily. It works out to a nice self-contained 13 hours, you’d almost think that was the plan all along.

247 Kragar  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 10:28:39pm

re: #246 sagehen

So I just finished watching the final episode of “Last Resort” — I’m so pleased the cancellation came to the writer/producer with enough notice that they could wrap it up satisfactorily. It works out to a nice self-contained 13 hours, you’d almost think that was the plan all along.

Watched Gosford Park last night, I can’t really say it really stood out for me at all. It wasn’t even disappointing, it was just meh.

248 dragonath  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 10:29:34pm

re: #240 Amory Blaine

BTW I believe only 1 of the members of the Milwaukee Journal editorial board actually lives in Milwaukee. James Causey. They are an occupying force from outside of the city. A joke of a paper.

Something that sticks out to me when I look at voting trends is how the Milwaukee suburbs are clearly the most populated concentration of right wing voters in the North. What gives?

249 freetoken  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 10:29:40pm

re: #208 Gus

250 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 10:30:09pm

I’ve been agonizing for weeks which electric guitar I should get and I’m no closer to picking one than I was when I started. Well here are 3 I’m contemplating.

The Music Man John Petrucci JPX6

The Fender American Deluxe Strat

Les Paul Standard Traditional Pro

My problem, well one of my problems is I’m kind of a loner and I haven’t played many guitars outside of the acoustics I own. And I refuse to buy a guitar not made in America. At least this time.

Damn me and my wishy washy ways!!!

251 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 10:31:09pm

re: #248 dragonath

Something that sticks out to me when I look at voting trends is how the Milwaukee suburbs are clearly the most populated concentration of right wing voters in the North. What gives?

I call it personally, the racist ring. This is where all the whites fled to when the busing ruling came down years ago.

252 sagehen  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 10:34:49pm

re: #247 Kragar

Watched Gosford Park last night, I can’t really say it really stood out for me at all. It wasn’t even disappointing, it was just meh.

I’m glad to hear that, my to-watch list is so long I’m always pleased to be able to strike something off (it’s from the same writer who does “Downton Abbey”, right?)

253 freetoken  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 10:40:54pm
254 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 10:46:41pm

Iowa GOPer Caught On Live Mic Calling GOP Gun Law ‘Crazy’

255 freetoken  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 10:49:51pm

re: #251 Amory Blaine

256 Kragar  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 11:01:57pm

re: #252 sagehen

I’m glad to hear that, my to-watch list is so long I’m always pleased to be able to strike something off (it’s from the same writer who does “Downton Abbey”, right?)

I think I’ve watched everything I’ve wanted to watch on Netflix right now. Just waiting for new stuff to cycle in.

257 freetoken  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 11:22:13pm

An interesting discussion how a subset of modern humans have something more in common with Neanderthals that others:

Speaking of Neandertal FOXP2

258 freetoken  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 11:55:12pm
259 Kragar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:01:14am

Tonight’s 40k trivia:

Gregor Eisenhorn

Gregor Eisenhorn is an Inquisitor of the Ordo Xenos. Initially a Puritan of the Amalathian faction, Eisenhorn’s Inquisitorial ideology would alter over the course of his career so dramatically towards the philosophy of Radical Xanthism that other members of the Inquisition consider him a possible heretic. Indeed, Eisenhorn has officially been considered a traitor by the Inquisition at least twice in his Inquisitorial career, only to be proved a righteous servant of the Emperor of Mankind both times.

Image: Eisenhorn6.jpg

And his pupil (and later sworn enemy)

Gideon Ravenor

Gideon Ravenor was an Inquisitor of the Ordo Xenos of some renown and one of the Inquisition’s most powerful psykers. During his time as an Interrogator for the Inquisitor Gregor Eisenhorn he was severely wounded during a terrorist attack on the world of Thracian Primaris. Thanks to the technological marvels of the Adeptus Mechanicus and Ravenor’s own unbending will, he survived his injuries, but due to extensive tissue damage and burns, he was doomed to spend the rest of his days in a life-supporting Force Chair. The sensory deprivation caused by his injuries and the chair’s built-in psy-boosters allowed Ravenor to continue in the Emperor’s service with significantly enhanced psychic abilities. As an Inquisitor he won many great victories that helped to preserve the Imperium and at one point he actually help save the material universe itself from destruction. Ironically, Ravenor gained much greater fame amongst the Imperial elite as a philosopher than he did as a warrior. His esoteric philosophical book, The Spheres of Longing, is generally considered to be his greatest work.

260 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:14:34am

Morning all!

I seem to be on the sleep-no-sleep merry-go-round again.

261 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:17:41am

re: #247 Kragar

Watched Gosford Park last night, I can’t really say it really stood out for me at all. It wasn’t even disappointing, it was just meh.

I thoroughly enjoyed Gosford Park.

I watched it when it first came out on video. Scenes still come back to me from that film.

Mostly about the class order of things and the total discount of the “staff” as being relevant to the investigation. No one really cared who committed the murder.

262 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:21:13am

re: #239 Mattand

I have to agree with many other LGF readers in that these people are spoiling for a fight. They wan their Ruby Ridge, their Bushmaster-powered Shays Rebellion. Egged on by the GOP, Fox News, Limbaugh, and their own pathetic paranoia, it’s a matter of time before these fuckwits provoke a fire fight with some government organization.

The stupid shit being posted on fb is beyond any attempt at logic. I just scroll past.

I think it’s less about guns than it is about money and power. There is still a core group of individuals who can’t handle all the changes in the world. They will huddle in their compounds clutching their firearms until the very end —all the while exclaiming that they are being persecuted.

It’s a global world; there is a Black Man in the White House & Spock is in touch with his feelings.

DEAL WITH IT

263 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:24:49am

re: #224 austin_blue

Night all. Sweet dreams.

It’ll be interesting tomorrow to see how the gun lobby tries to spin the morons who interrupted the description by the father of the death of his six year old child by yelling (Second Amendment!).

Already on my fb. Never heard of this site before, hope it is ok to link.

264 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:29:25am

re: #224 austin_blue

Night all. Sweet dreams.

It’ll be interesting tomorrow to see how the gun lobby tries to spin the morons who interrupted the description by the father of the death of his six year old child by yelling (Second Amendment!).

These are people who question whether Sandy Hook really happened, it is no trouble getting them to believe there was no heckling.

It was in any case an enormous show of disrepsect, but it bares their agenda and their priorities, namely that the Second Amendment trumps dead children.

265 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:33:14am

re: #239 Mattand

I have to agree with many other LGF readers in that these people are spoiling for a fight. They wan their Ruby Ridge, their Bushmaster-powered Shays Rebellion. Egged on by the GOP, Fox News, Limbaugh, and their own pathetic paranoia, it’s a matter of time before these fuckwits provoke a fire fight with some government organization.

Another thing I fear is the aftermath of another large natural and/or man-made disaster, especially a terrorist attack. If the government moves in to restore order and declares marial law, these fellows will see it as a declaration of war on True Patriots and start shooting back.

It could get very, very ugly.

266 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:39:45am

I want to tell all these “the government is coming for my guns” people, that even the government isn’t that stupid.

267 freetoken  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:40:12am

Since genealogy seems to be my hobby of the season, here’s a brief blog article that is worth reading:

You Are Probably Descended from Charlemagne and Other Royalty

The commenters seem a bit confused about things genetic, but that is common.

If your ancestors come from a European nation that kept good records, such as with my Norwegian ancestry, chances are indeed good you can find a way back to the great Kings of old. In my case it’s not too difficult to hit Scandinavian nobility of the 13th-15th centuries, in part because of all the baptismal and land ownership records the Norwegians kept, so I’ve got about a dozen entry points into the ancient past. The landed gentry/nobility tended to marry equally or “up”, so it takes several generations to lose the trail, and if you can follow your ancestry back to the 15th century in Europe the paths get easier.

Once you hit a landed gentry then the rest going back to Charlemagne (or another famous person) is pretty straightforward.

Note that going back before the Carolingian dynasty is rather questionable. For Scandanavian ancestors going before King Gorm is doubtful. In England the House of Wessex is real but descent from them is confusing.

There are many myths that the doubtful/fake genealogy research sites try to sell to people. For example, many people of Scandinavian ancestry try to claim a certain “Princess Hildis of the Vandals”, but she’s a myth. The myth is made so that one can claim her real (and important) father, Hilderic of the Vandals, as an ancestor. Hilderic is indeed important, and if you can find him in your tree, then that means you can find his ancestors, which include the Emperors of Rome, such as Constantine.

So everyone wants to claim “Hildis” - but as near as serious genealogists can tell she was invented by later people of the North, to insert into ancient proto-Viking ancestry.

Similarly, some who find the House of Wessex in their heritage buy the deception that Alfred, King of the Britons, was descended from Joseph of Arimathea. But that most certainly is a made up claim (even if there was a real Joseph of Arimathea as portrayed in the Gospels, which is itself unlikely.)

So, it’s buyer-be-ware out there.

268 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:45:30am

re: #267 freetoken

I have also read that most people in Eastern Europe and Northern Asia can trace some descent back to Ghenghis Khan

269 freetoken  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:46:56am

re: #268 Sol Berdinowitz

I have also read that most people in Eastern Europe and Northern Asia can trace some descent back to Ghenghis Khan

No doubt true, as the claims of his desire for women, no doubt exaggerated, has some basis in truth.

270 freetoken  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:50:48am

This one goes out to my mythic ancestors, which in one genealogy includes Skaði, the god of skiing.

271 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:51:30am

I’ll never understand social media.

I Pages Post an article about a plant growing in a sealed bottle for 40 years and it get’s 32 tweets.

the ERA petition —0

272 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:52:39am

re: #270 freetoken

This one goes out to my mythic ancestors, which in one genealogy includes Skaði, the god of skiing.

[Embedded content]

What’s that song (I want to say it’s from Peyton Place) “da,da,da ..and, whose car is parked next door?”

I gave-up on genealogy once I came to better understand human nature.

:0

273 freetoken  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:56:39am

re: #272 FemNaziBitch

What’s that song (I want to say it’s from Peyton Place) “da,da,da ..and, whose car is parked next door?”

Don’t know to what you are referring.

I gave-up on genealogy once I came to better understand human nature.

The term is NPE.

274 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 2:03:57am

re: #273 freetoken

Don’t know to what you are referring.

The term is NPE.

ah!

Yes, that is exactly to what I was referring.

10% is what is considered average. Wow.

I’m not really that cynical about it. It seems that the further back one goes, the more likely one is going to run into errors, as it was easier to make fraudulent claims before modern medicine and record keeping.

275 freetoken  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 2:19:17am

re: #274 FemNaziBitch

And those few percent add up to mean that “nearly all people” in assumed descents.

Think about this: some of my royal pedigree goes back to good ol’ Ansegisel. Think of the number of generations between then and now.

Let’s say there are 40 generations between him and me (just as a nice round figure - I’ve not actually counted them.)

Assume each generation has, on average, 4 offspring (by marriage) that live to an old enough age to reproduce (though often it was more, sometimes it was less.)

Without pedigree collapse downstream, that makes 439 descendants! Now that is an impossibly large number of people to live in Europe, so we know there is significant collapse of the pedigree.

Anyway, let’s say there is 10% chance of an NPE per generation that lives to reproduce themselves. If there are N “legitimate” descendants, the genetic total becomes 1.1N .

So, to calculate the ratio of the number of total, versus pedigreed, descendants after G generations is simply 1.1G.

Plug in say 39 for G and you get approximately 41. That means after 39 generations the original parent has 41 times more descendants than what the pedigree would suggest!

276 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 2:19:28am

re: #274 FemNaziBitch

Back when we lived in small, nomadic hunter-gatherer tribes, paternity was not such a major issue: all children were raised by the Clan.

Fatherhood only became significant once we settled down and started owning stuff, it became important to determine the rules of inheritance.

And once we slapped a layer of religious dogma and social rituals over the issue, it became a major cultural obsession, which it remains to this day.

277 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 2:39:13am

re: #275 freetoken

You used math.

I think I grasped the overall concept, tho.

Put it this way, those 10% probably have the same core group of successful Casanova’s as fathers—no?

278 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 2:40:35am

re: #276 Sol Berdinowitz

Back when we lived in small, nomadic hunter-gatherer tribes, paternity was not such a major issue: all children were raised by the Clan.

Fatherhood only became significant once we settled down and started owning stuff, it became important to determine the rules of inheritance.

And once we slapped a layer of religious dogma and social rituals over the issue, it became a major cultural obsession, which it remains to this day.

You mean it’s all about money and power?

:0

279 freetoken  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 3:12:46am

re: #277 FemNaziBitch

You used math.

I’m sorry.

Put it this way, those 10% probably have the same core group of successful Casanova’s as fathers—no?

Not sure what you mean… but indeed one can assume that a “NPE” can reproduce as well as the pedigreed, once one gets away from the core royalty, which of course have their, um, privileges.

280 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 3:20:44am

re: #278 FemNaziBitch

You mean it’s all about money and power?

:0

re: #279 freetoken

but indeed one can assume that a “NPE” can reproduce as well as the pedigreed, once one gets away from the core royalty, which of course have their, um, privileges.

…and privelege. History is full of bastard sons who are recognized by their fathers but shut out of the line of succession because they came outof the wrong womb.

(one of the ongling themes in the latest Ken Follet Novels, “Fall of Giants” and “Winter of the World”.)

281 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 3:24:21am

re: #280 Sol Berdinowitz

re: #279 freetoken

…and privelege. History is full of bastard sons who are recognized by their fathers but shut out of the line of succession because they came outof the wrong womb.

(one of the ongling themes in the latest ken Follet Novels, “Fall of Giants” and “Winter of the World”.)

Yes, There was one book (trying to remember “Eaters of the Dead”??) in which the protagonist routinely raped a wench after each frenzy of battle. And he was a “holy” man.

One can only imagine the knotting and merging of branches on any one family tree if one goes back far enough.

282 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 3:26:28am

re: #279 freetoken

I’m sorry.

Not sure what you mean… but indeed one can assume that a “NPE” can reproduce as well as the pedigreed, once one gets away from the core royalty, which of course have their, um, privileges.

I read once that the whole purpose of life is “DNA survival”. All of us living today can say that our ancestors we good at at.

HA!

I’m just not sure we can really know who those ancestors were. I’m certainly not going to make it a basis for my personal identity or worth and I don’t see any sense in creating legal or other policy based on it.

283 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 3:26:33am

There was the case when Rolling Stones Bassist Bill Wyman was dating a 13-year-old girl, while his son was dating her mother.

Had both couples married, Bill would have become his own step-grandfather…

284 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 3:28:25am

re: #282 FemNaziBitch

I read once that the whole purpose of life is “DNA survival”. All of us living today can say that our ancestors we good at at.

HA!

I tend to subscribe to that theory: my (ex-) wife and I were a great genetic combination, we produced some beautiful and inteeligent offspring, but we just could not stand each other once we had reproduced.

285 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 3:30:39am

re: #284 Sol Berdinowitz

I tend to subscribe to that theory: my (ex-) wife and I were a great genetic combination, we produced some beautiful and inteeligent offspring, but we just could not stand each other once we had reproduced.

I think that happens more often than not.

We are attracted for “evolutionary” reasons and once that purpose is fufilled, the “thrill” is gone.

Worked out fine when people didn’t live so long. Now we have to make some moral truth out of it and get all emotional about laws and shit.

286 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 3:33:36am
287 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 3:34:07am

re: #285 FemNaziBitch

I think that happens more often than not.

We are attracted for “evolutionary” reasons and once that purpose is fufilled, the “thrill” is gone.

Worked out fine when people didn’t live so long. Now we have to make some moral truth out of it and get all emotional about laws and shit.

It was an odd sensation, not long after I met her; I knew that we were going to have kids and there was no getting out of it…

288 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 3:38:33am

re: #287 Sol Berdinowitz

It was an odd sensation, not long after I met her; I knew that we were going to have kids and there was no getting out of it…

I had one of those bio-chemical moments after my son was born. They put him in my arms and I could almost tell you to the second when the pitocin hit my brain. I was simultaneously and immediately in love and ready to kill.

One could say it was a religious experience. :0

289 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 4:11:05am

re: #158 Interesting Times

This is her timeline - you (and anyone else willing to hold their nose and look) tell me - parody or real?

Looks like typical TGDN. Parody accounts have a lot of liberal followers and use deliberate misspellings.

@BarryWirth is a parody account.

290 Geoff with a G  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 5:12:59am

re: #289 Vicious Babushka

I got a big LOL out of this exchange #circularlogic

291 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 5:23:45am

Morning Lizards.

292 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 5:25:39am

[Link: usnews.nbcnews.com…]

Standard rules.

293 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 5:27:38am

re: #292 Feline Fearless Leader

[Link: usnews.nbcnews.com…]

Standard rules.

Saw this before.

294 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 5:42:22am

re: #290 Geoff with a G

I got a big LOL out of this exchange #circularlogic

Yes folks, not only did the Democrats generate 5 million votes to decisively win the popular vote, they spread them in such a manner that it’s virtually impossible to prove they did because nobody has successfully done so yet. Meanwhile, despite having such a flawless operation, they kept the margin of victory in Florida so thin as to leave us guessing for hours rather than just making it a decisive win that would have ended the whole thing earlier in the night.

295 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 5:43:25am

re: #294 Targetpractice

Yes folks, not only did the Democrats generate 5 million votes to decisively win the popular vote, they spread them in such a manner that it’s virtually impossible to prove they did because nobody has successfully done so yet. Meanwhile, despite having such a flawless operation, they kept the margin of victory in Florida so thin as to leave us guessing for hours rather than just making it a decisive win that would have ended the whole thing earlier in the night.

CHICAGO!1!1ty

296 Geoff with a G  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 5:50:15am

re: #294 Targetpractice

They can’t make it 2 obvius, duh

297 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 5:54:07am

re: #294 Targetpractice

Yes folks, not only did the Democrats generate 5 million votes to decisively win the popular vote, they spread them in such a manner that it’s virtually impossible to prove they did because nobody has successfully done so yet. Meanwhile, despite having such a flawless operation, they kept the margin of victory in Florida so thin as to leave us guessing for hours rather than just making it a decisive win that would have ended the whole thing earlier in the night.

That’s because Obama is magic.

298 Geoff with a G  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 5:56:21am

Well the never-ending MA election/special-election cycle keeps on chugging (thanks Ted). Scott Brown leaning towards running (if he doesn’t it will be a Dem cake-walk. If he does and loses, that would be a big political setback for him). Ed Markey is the only announced candidate. My district Congressman Stephen Lynch is considering running against. And Deval Patrick to announce the Kerry’s replacement today (Barney?). All politics is local.

299 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:00:33am

Greets and saluts from the exceedingly warm and soon to be quite windy and rainy NYC metro area. Big news here is on the transit front as PATH has finally restored service between WTC and Hoboken. That service has been out since Sandy hit (3 months). To put that into perspective 50,000 people use the WTC terminal daily. Hoboken normally services 30,000 people daily, with roughly half going to WTC.

Having that service cut off affected the commutes of most of those people. For me, I had an increased daily commute of about a half hour. That adds up, and while it didn’t increase my out of pocket costs, there were many other people who did end up with higher commuting costs - taking alternative routes that required higher fares (like the ferry or going through Secaucus to NY Penn and then subways to Lower Manhattan).

Reopening the link is huge for Hoboken as well since it’s still struggling economically with all the damage to local businesses. Getting the rail links back up and running is a huge step towards getting foot traffic going again near the station.

300 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:00:52am

re: #222 Gus

The Marines’ Hymn

[Embedded content]

I’m afraid every time I hear The Marine’s Hymn I hear the Mad Magazine version of the lyrics they did, um, 45 years ago, approximately.

Ahem.

From the neck high mud of foxholes,
to malaria filled bogs.
We will march for ninety miles a day,
then drop out and die like dogs.
We will land on mine strewn beaches.
We will live with snakes and fleas.
Then we’ll all leave Parris Island,
for restful combat overseas.

What can I say? I lived a somewhat demented childhood.

301 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:02:54am

re: #300 Romantic Heretic

I’m afraid every time I hear The Marine’s Hymn I hear the Mad Magazine version of the lyrics they did, um, 45 years ago, approximately.

Ahem.

What can I say? I lived a somewhat demented childhood.

Mad Magazine ruled back in the day, and Cracked was a pale imitation. However Cracked.com rules on Teh Interwebz.

302 Geoff with a G  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:02:56am

re: #300 Romantic Heretic

Never had Mad Magazine in the house when I was growing (parents weren’t strict, just never had it). But the barber shop was a Mad Magazine library. I’d read cover-to-cover when I was there.

303 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:04:57am

re: #239 Mattand

Sort of touched on this in the previous thread, but what’s becoming apparent is that to a lot of people, guns are clearly more important than children in their world. What make this even more fucked up is that many of these people are actually parents.

To these people, Sandy Hook is a “you can’t make an omelette without breaking a few eggs” type of situation. Sandy Hook is acceptable losses. And for the most part, every discussion around guns gets morphed into “The scary black man wants my personal arsenal.”

I have to agree with many other LGF readers in that these people are spoiling for a fight. They wan their Ruby Ridge, their Bushmaster-powered Shays Rebellion. Egged on by the GOP, Fox News, Limbaugh, and their own pathetic paranoia, it’s a matter of time before these fuckwits provoke a fire fight with some government organization.

We keep going down the path we’re going, these horrible excuses for Americans are going to get more dead children and cops for their twisted little “war” on guns. Hopefully, we can manage to stay out of the crossfire

I’ve been comparing these people to the Aztecs recently. Their religion requires human sacrifice or their world dies. Only with blood can the gods be appeased.

304 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:05:00am

So word comes out that the economy contracted. Cue the popping of champagne corks and celebratory dancing from the wingnuts, along with amplified talking from them about how the Great Economic Collapse they’ve been predicting for years is upon us.

305 steve_davis  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:10:17am

re: #21 Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts just “assume” that anybody who requires assistance is a tattooed, beer-drinking, smoking, drug-abusing, Honey Boo Boo watching moron who wants a FREE OBAMAPHONE.

Or as George W. Bush famously asserted, “My base.”

306 Lidane  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:12:24am

*sigh*

307 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:13:12am

A day without a Godwin is like a day without Hitler.

308 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:14:39am

re: #304 Targetpractice

A closer look at the numbers reveals a few things.

Sandy is responsible for what looks to be a 0.5 point hit. Without Sandy, the economy would have grown by an anemic 0.4% instead of shrinking 0.1%.

Government spending cuts and slower inventory growth subtracted a total of 2.6 percentage points from growth. Both are volatile. And they offset faster growth in consumer spending, business investment and housing.

In other words, the quest to cut government spending resulted in the contraction - austerity in action. And the economy will continue to see those effects, not from higher taxes, but from reduced spending if and when the sequester takes effect. And the GOP knows this - which is why they’re now screaming about jobs (even though the private sector is doing everything imaginable to keep their costs down by wringing out still more efficiency from their current workforce and not hiring); it’s the reduction in government jobs are why the unemployment rates are still as high as they are.

Yet, any proposal to do any kind of stimulus such as an infrastructure bill will be met with claims of pork and waste, rather than getting it done to fix our crumbling roads, bridges, highways, transit and power and water delivery systems.

309 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:15:03am

Yes, they really do believe that the most red spaces means they won the election.

310 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:16:23am
311 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:17:55am

re: #309 Vicious Babushka

Of course driving through some of those same red areas, and you’ll find more cattle than people.

312 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:18:20am

Jim Nabors (best known for playing Gomer Pyle) got married.
[Link: todayentertainment.today.com…]

313 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:18:31am

re: #308 lawhawk

Or, in short, the US experiment in austerity is proving to be just as disastrous as the European one, with no immediate hope of reprieve because the GOP will just use today’s news to push for further austerity in the hopes of invoking the “Confidence Fairy.”

314 Lidane  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:19:17am

re: #309 Vicious Babushka

Yes, they really do believe that the most red spaces means they won the election.

Someone needs to show these morons a population density map. They don’t seem to understand how it works or how the population in this country is spread out.

315 Lidane  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:19:46am

What right wing racism?

316 Geoff with a G  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:20:27am

re: #309 Vicious Babushka

You could point them to this…

Vast stretches of the country, especially in the West, are indeed red, but they represent parts of the country with lots of open land, some of dedicated to either Federal Parks or military bases, and very few people. A far more accurate representation would be this map from Mark Newman which adjusts the size of the states based on their relative population:

Image: 2012-Electoral-Map-Population-Adjusted1-570x305.png

From: [Link: www.outsidethebeltway.com…]

317 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:20:30am

re: #311 lawhawk

Of course driving through some of those same red areas, and you’ll find more cattle than people.

318 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:21:32am

re: #316 Geoff with a G

You could point them to this…

Image: 2012-Electoral-Map-Population-Adjusted1-570x305.png

From: [Link: www.outsidethebeltway.com…]

I had an entire conversation with a wingnut who totally did not comprehend the concept of population distribution (see above post).

319 Geoff with a G  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:21:37am

re: #317 Vicious Babushka

The farms that feed, the cows that vote. #stufflikethat

320 Geoff with a G  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:22:05am

re: #318 Vicious Babushka

Brilliant!

321 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:22:58am

re: #317 Vicious Babushka

Yes, the heartland, the farms that feed us, the illegals who work on them that can’t vote. Stuff like that.

322 Lidane  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:23:05am

re: #319 Geoff with a G

The farms that feed, the cows that vote. #stufflikethat

323 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:23:13am

re: #313 Targetpractice

Or, in short, the US experiment in austerity is proving to be just as disastrous as the European one, with no immediate hope of reprieve because the GOP will just use today’s news to push for further austerity in the hopes of invoking the “Confidence Fairy.”

Beginning to think that getting elected to legislative office needs to require a 6 months orientation period that will include crash courses in logic, civics, the appropriate governing documents (state and national constitutions for instance), and macroeconomics.

324 Geoff with a G  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:23:29am

re: #315 Lidane

What right wing racism?

Say it in English American or STFU!

325 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:23:39am

re: #313 Targetpractice

Self inflicted
double dip….
Damn.

326 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:23:50am

BUT IN CHICAGO DEAD PEOPLE VOTED!1!TY

327 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:25:09am

re: #317 Vicious Babushka

Ah, a viewpoint that obviously thinks cities above some certain population level are simply parasites on the body politic.

Nothing like ignorance for driving a conversation - though I expect the destination is nowhere.

328 Lidane  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:26:45am

Who needs reality TV when there’s Twitter?

329 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:26:57am

re: #315 Lidane

What right wing racism?

I’m getting the impression that Fort Collins is the Austin of Colorado.
;)

And kudos to the principal for putting up with the screaming nutters in defense of something that is educational, inclusive, and downright truly American.

330 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:26:59am

re: #327 Feline Fearless Leader

Ah, a viewpoint that obviously thinks cities above some certain population level are simply parasites on the body politic.

Nothing like ignorance for driving a conversation - though I expect the destination is nowhere.

You should read the entire face-palming conversation that we had on Twitter. And this guy is one of the more polite wingnuts.

331 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:27:16am

re: #328 Lidane

Who needs reality TV when there’s Twitter?

Guess the ruse of the administrator fell through, so now it’s the “legal defense fund” scam.

332 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:27:50am

re: #328 Lidane

Who needs reality TV when there’s Twitter?

hehe. Grift action #2; legal defense.

333 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:28:35am

re: #328 Lidane

Who needs reality TV when there’s Twitter?

LOL.

334 Lidane  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:29:44am

The plot thickens!

335 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:31:00am

re: #328 Lidane

Who needs reality TV when there’s Twitter?

Grifters gotta grift.

336 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:32:42am

re: #328 Lidane

Take it that his pleas for donations for a paid staff fell through so now he is trying the I need help to pay my (future) legal bills gambit.

Grifter has to grift.

337 Lidane  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:33:07am

re: #335 Romantic Heretic

Grifters gotta grift.

Grifters gotta grift, and apparently Todd Kincannon’s timeline is filled with him having a meltdown. It’s crazy.

I guess the ruse of being a conservative activist is getting to be too much.

338 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:34:58am
Wired-
Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform committee, and ranking minority leader Elijah Cummings (D-Maryland) wrote in their Jan. 28 letter that it appeared that prosecutors had intentionally bulked up the felony counts against Swartz in order to increase the amount of time in prison he would face.

Issa makes me want to dismiss this out of hand. But the other guy plus a long cherished record of overcharging for negotiation points makes me hesitate. That suicide cost a life that had a great future for himself and I suspect many of us who use tech.

339 makeitstop  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:37:06am

re: #328 Lidane

Who needs reality TV when there’s Twitter?

The Left is trying to have me arrested over #TGDN. I cannot represent myself. Please contribute to #TGDN legal defense

‘The Left?’ Doesn’t he or she post here from time to time?

340 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:40:57am

The scam evolves

341 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:42:32am
342 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:42:44am

re: #340 Vicious Babushka

The scam evolves

“It’s a rainy day fund, don’t ya know. Small bills, please.”

343 Geoff with a G  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:46:26am

re: #341 Vicious Babushka

He should be put in jail for claiming he invented “butthurt”.

344 Lidane  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:46:51am
345 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:46:57am

re: #341 Vicious Babushka

Hope you’re saving these. With the collection you can put together one hell of a page on the genesis and evolution of a grifting scheme.

346 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:47:55am

re: #341 Vicious Babushka

Man that is so transparent. Wonder when twitter is going to shut this hashtag down?

347 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:49:15am

re: #341 Vicious Babushka

I followed that link and among the first commenters is someone who says that they have 5 accounts. Yeah, sock puppetry is alive and well. Oh, and no actual proof as to where the money is going or for what purposes other than his claims that it’s for some “legal defense fund”.

Shady grifter is shady.

348 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:49:45am

re: #345 Feline Fearless Leader

Hope you’re saving these. With the collection you can put together one hell of a page on the genesis and evolution of a grifting scheme.

Page is here. I’ll have to add these new ones.

349 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:50:25am

re: #348 Vicious Babushka

Page is here. I’ll have to add these new ones.

Charles closed the page (because of stalkers), or maybe it just expired.

350 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:55:52am
351 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:56:14am

re: #349 Vicious Babushka

I think he’s got it set for items to close after a week. Guess that means you’ll do up a new page to update Todd’s antics.

352 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:59:10am

re: #351 lawhawk

I think he’s got it set for items to close after a week. Guess that means you’ll do up a new page to update Todd’s antics.

You know, I am really getting TGDN’ed out. Maybe somebody else can make the page?

353 Mattand  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:03:13am

re: #352 Vicious Babushka

You know, I am really getting TGDN’ed out. Maybe somebody else can make the page?

Honestly, I’m wondering if it’s best to ignore it. It’s not a bad idea to see how these nitwits think at times, but at the end of the day, no one is going to change their minds.

It’s helped me blow off some steam pointing out the errors these guys make, but nothing short of divine intervention is going to change their outlook.

354 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:05:56am

re: #353 Mattand

Honestly, I’m wondering if it’s best to ignore it. It’s not a bad idea to see how these nitwits think at times, but at the end of the day, no one is going to change their minds.

It’s helped me blow off some steam pointing out the errors these guys make, but nothing short of divine intervention is going to change their outlook.

The scamming and grifting has to be exposed.

355 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:06:21am

Figures. Guy who shot and killed a bus driver and took a 6-year old kid hostage and is currently in a storm bunker has links to extremist anti-American survivalist group.

356 Mattand  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:10:46am

re: #354 Vicious Babushka

The scamming and grifting has to be exposed.

True. Unfortunately, part of me views it as wingnut-on-wingnut crime. I can’t get worked up over that. Then again, I guess if that wingnut is an 80 year old living on fixed income, it certainly presents a moral quandary.

You have a point regarding the Kincannon page soliciting donations, and its unsurprising lack of info. I wonder if Twitter needs to be alerted to that one…

357 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:14:47am

re: #355 lawhawk

Figures. Guy who shot and killed a bus driver and took a 6-year old kid hostage and is currently in a storm bunker has links to extremist anti-American survivalist group.

Might be so, but your link doesn’t point to a ‘group’. Having anti-American views around here just makes him average. He’s still in there, according to the local news. Everyone is officially avoiding the location of the kid.

358 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:17:25am

re: #356 Mattand

It’s a potential violation of the Twitter TOS and rules.

For instance, the person claiming 5 accounts could be violating the following:

Serial Accounts: You may not create serial accounts for disruptive or abusive purposes, or with overlapping use cases. Mass account creation may result in suspension of all related accounts. Please note that any violation of the Twitter Rules is cause for permanent suspension of all accounts.

Todd’s actions could be violating:

Unlawful Use: You may not use our service for any unlawful purposes or in furtherance of illegal activities.

among others.

359 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:18:09am

re: #338 Political Atheist

Issa is an asshole and anything he leads the charge on deserves a second look, but this falls right into his general anti-government bullshit so it’s probably just accidental he got this one right.

360 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:23:20am

Latest Wingnut Outrageous Outrage: Skeet Shooting Truthers!

361 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:24:35am

re: #315 Lidane

What right wing racism?

Fort Collins students read Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic |on9news.tv/11beMSj - WTF? Say it in English or STFU #tgdn #tcot
— John L Stubbs (@heavyfuel1204) January 30, 2013

Hope this goober is reading and preaching his bible in Aramaic. If not STFU.

362 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:24:40am

re: #360 Vicious Babushka

Latest Wingnut Outrageous Outrage: Skeet Shooting Truthers!

Classic fake outrage issue. Given our political situation - who cares?

363 Sionainn  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:24:47am

re: #328 Lidane

Who needs reality TV when there’s Twitter?

He’s clearly delusional.

364 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:25:42am

re: #361 Eventual Carrion

Hope this goober is reading and preaching his bible in Aramaic. If not STFU.

Am I the only one here who actually owns a Bible (Tanakh) in Aramaic?

365 Mattand  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:28:59am

re: #360 Vicious Babushka

Latest Wingnut Outrageous Outrage: Skeet Shooting Truthers!

To be honest, I’ve been skeptical about the whole skeet shooting thing myself. We’re only just now hearing of it? He probably did it once, and need some sort of firearm handling to prove he doesn’t hate guns.

I’d rather have Obama running the US than any of the clown car passengers the GOP offered up, but at the end of the day, he’s still a politician.

366 Sionainn  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:29:37am

re: #364 Vicious Babushka

Am I the only one here who actually owns a Bible (Tanakh) in Aramaic?

My husband has one that is supposed to have been translated directly from Aramaic.

367 Geoff with a G  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:30:50am

re: #298 Geoff with a G

Well the never-ending MA election/special-election cycle keeps on chugging (thanks Ted). Scott Brown leaning towards running (if he doesn’t it will be a Dem cake-walk. If he does and loses, that would be a big political setback for him). Ed Markey is the only announced candidate. My district Congressman Stephen Lynch is considering running against. And Deval Patrick to announce the Kerry’s replacement today (Barney?). All politics is local.

Looks like Deval is going with his former chief of staff William Cowan.

368 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:30:57am

re: #364 Vicious Babushka

Am I the only one here who actually owns a Bible (Tanakh) in Aramaic?

Got a US Defense Dept explosives production manual in Hebrew, if that helps.

369 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:31:49am

re: #366 Sionainn

My husband has one that is supposed to have been translated directly from Aramaic.

Only the later books of Ezra, Nehemiah, Daniel and Chronicles are originally in Aramaic, the rest of the Tanakh is in Hebrew.

The NT is in Greek.

370 Mattand  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:31:58am

re: #358 lawhawk

It’s a potential violation of the Twitter TOS and rules.

For instance, the person claiming 5 accounts could be violating the following:

Todd’s actions could be violating:

among others.

I know I’m being a hypocrite based on what I wrote to VB, but I couldn’t help myself:

Curious as to how this shakes out. I’m real close to reporting that particular tweet. As VB pointed out, scamming needs to dealt with harshly.

371 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:32:49am

re: #298 Geoff with a G

Well the never-ending MA election/special-election cycle keeps on chugging (thanks Ted). Scott Brown leaning towards running (if he doesn’t it will be a Dem cake-walk. If he does and loses, that would be a big political setback for him). Ed Markey is the only announced candidate. My district Congressman Stephen Lynch is considering running against. And Deval Patrick to announce the Kerry’s replacement today (Barney?). All politics is local.

Maybe MA is doing this as a sort of national grift scam. Keep holding special elections to suck in PAC money and such from out of state since it will be spent in the state.
//

372 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:33:35am

re: #368 Decatur Deb

Got a US Defense Dept explosives production manual in Hebrew, if that helps.

What does it say in there about the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch?

373 Sionainn  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:34:01am

re: #369 Vicious Babushka

Only the later books of Ezra, Nehemiah, Daniel and Chronicles are originally in Aramaic, the rest of the Tanakh is in Hebrew.

The NT is in Greek.

I could get off my lazy ass and go find it to see what it says, but my dad’s using that room right now…and, my ass is lazy today. :-)

374 Geoff with a G  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:35:14am

re: #371 Feline Fearless Leader

Maybe MA is doing this as a sort of national grift scam. Keep holding special elections to suck in PAC money and such from out of state since it will be spent in the state.
//

MA Grifters gotta Grift.

375 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:35:27am

This is the same wingnut who freaked out last night when I responded to her lame tweet about govt employees are all worthless.

376 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:35:44am

re: #372 Feline Fearless Leader

What does it say in there about the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch?

It’s confusing, written back-to-front. I think it says “Throw first, pull pin, then grasp spoon.”

377 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:36:01am

re: #364 Vicious Babushka

Am I the only one here who actually owns a Bible (Tanakh) in Aramaic?

Possibly, I don’t own a bible at all.

378 Mattand  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:36:08am

re: #372 Feline Fearless Leader

What does it say in there about the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch?

There’s something about it on page 5.

I mean page 3.

379 Geoff with a G  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:36:26am

re: #371 Feline Fearless Leader

Maybe MA is doing this as a sort of national grift scam. Keep holding special elections to suck in PAC money and such from out of state since it will be spent in the state.
//

The funny thing about this is…is Elizabeth Warren now the senior senator from MA?

380 makeitstop  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:37:04am

re: #375 Vicious Babushka

This is the same wingnut who freaked out last night when I responded to her lame tweet.

@ToddKincannon asked 4 donations on behalf of #tgdn, other conservatives reach out to investors to run their websites. What’s the big deal?

Aside from the fact that Kincannon does not own, host or maintain Twitter, no big.
///

381 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:39:20am

re: #317 Vicious Babushka

The Heartland: Where Men are Men and Cows are Scared.

382 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:43:03am

re: #328 Lidane

Who needs reality TV when there’s Twitter?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! And the RWNJ’s will fall for it hook, line, and sinker. Maybe I should start posting RW nonsense and fleece a few of the wingnut suckers.

Thar’s gold in them thar hills wingnuts!!

383 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:43:48am

re: #381 William Barnett-Lewis

The Heartland: Where Men are Men and Cows are Scared Sheep are Nervous.

384 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:45:25am

Tornado watches and warnings are already up.

Warnings in effect around Rome, Georgia. Radar has picked up rotation indicating that a tornado could be forming.

Watches up from Alabama through Georgia. Severe weather watches and warnings up for significant parts of the East Coast through tomorrow morning.

385 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:46:05am

re: #364 Vicious Babushka

Am I the only one here who actually owns a Bible (Tanakh) in Aramaic?

Possibly, though I find as a Christian, I get a lot from comparing my JPS translation of Tanakh to the NRSV that is more common to us. Then again, I also find Friedman’s Torah Commentary helpful in actually understanding it as well. Makes me wish I could read the original languages.

386 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:48:31am

re: #364 Vicious Babushka

I’ve got a tikkun at home, as well as a Hertz chumash (for commentaries and translations).

387 A Mom Anon  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:51:33am

re: #384 lawhawk

Time to turn on the TV around here I guess. That’s near where my son is at school right now…I was awakened earlier this morning by a tornado siren which triggered the dog howling like a freaking werewolf right next to my head,after which the phone started ringing. Geesh. That group of storms passed to the south of us, now it looks like another line of storms is coming into NW GA working it’s way towards the kiddo’s school and then down towards us. It’s also over 70 degrees here and all the daffodils,forsythia and grape hyacinth are in bloom. In January. Nope, no climate change here, none at all….

388 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:54:41am

re: #387 A Mom Anon

Time to turn on the TV around here I guess. That’s near where my son is at school right now…I was awakened earlier this morning by a tornado siren which triggered the dog howling like a freaking werewolf right next to my head,after which the phone started ringing. Geesh. That group of storms passed to the south of us, now it looks like another line of storms is coming into NW GA working it’s way towards the kiddo’s school and then down towards us. It’s also over 70 degrees here and all the daffodils,forsythia and grape hyacinth are in bloom. In January. Nope, no climate change here, none at all….

Cherry trees bloomed last week here in Philadelphia in Fairmount Park. And then it got cold again. Now getting warm again with rain coming in (per what Lawhawk said NYC would be getting.) And friends say it is already windy and raining heavily in Pittsburgh.

389 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:56:00am

Last year Michigan’s entire cherry crop was destroyed by unseasonable warm weather which caused early blooming and then freezing when normal weather resumed.

390 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:58:27am

Buck has a Pam Geller thing going on here.

391 Interesting Times  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 7:59:36am

re: #389 Vicious Babushka

Last year Michigan’s entire cherry crop was destroyed by unseasonable warm weather which caused early blooming and then freezing when normal weather resumed.

Ontario lost 80-90% of its apple crop for the exact same reason. I was desperately hoping the same thing wouldn’t happen this year, but judging from the January we’ve had thus far - spring-like temperatures approaching 15°C, followed by a week of freezing cold where they were closer to -15°C, and today, once again, rainy, stormy, and back up near the 15°C - it’s not looking good :(

392 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:01:01am

Cold, or what approximates winter in NYC has lasted all of about a week. Then we’ve got the warm temps this week, and a cool down to temps that are still at or above normal. This month has seen only a handful of days where temps were normal or below normal.

In NYC 18 days with temps at or above normal - including temps well into the 50s (normal temps are 38/28). Even the low daily temps are running 10 degrees above normal here. The two stints with colder temperatures simply don’t balance things out.

393 iossarian  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:01:47am

re: #391 Interesting Times

Ontario lost 80-90% of its apple crop for the exact same reason. I was desperately hoping the same thing wouldn’t happen this year, but judging from the January we’ve had thus far - spring-like temperatures approaching 15°C, followed by a week of freezing cold where they were closer to -15°C, and today, once again, rainy, stormy, and back up near the 15°C - it’s not looking good :(

Same deal here. Hard freeze and snow for a week followed by thawing and rain.

Rinse and repeat.

394 Interesting Times  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:04:26am

re: #393 iossarian

Same deal here. Hard freeze and snow for a week followed by thawing and rain.

Rinse and repeat.

Welcome to the new January. Now with three seasons for the price of one!

395 darthstar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:04:46am
396 Mattand  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:06:13am

re: #388 Feline Fearless Leader

Cherry trees bloomed last week here in Philadelphia in Fairmount Park. And then it got cold again. Now getting warm again with rain coming in (per what Lawhawk said NYC would be getting.) And friends say it is already windy and raining heavily in Pittsburgh.

I have an actual dandelion trying to pop up out of my yard. In January. In NJ.

397 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:07:08am

re: #392 lawhawk

There was a stretch in January in NYC where the daily low temperatures were still higher than the average daily high temperatures for January. I’ve seen some of my plants starting to bud, something that should be happening in March.

That follows last year when the climatologists and USDA has reclassified our area’s growing season to the next warmest zone (From 6b into 7a).

398 Mattand  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:08:20am

re: #397 lawhawk

There was a stretch in January in NYC where the daily low temperatures were still higher than the average daily high temperatures for January. I’ve seen some of my plants starting to bud, something that should be happening in March.

That follows last year when the climatologists and USDA has reclassified our area’s growing season to the next warmest zone (From 6b into 7a).

I need to get to NYC. Haven’t seen the dinos at the Natural History museum in a while.

399 darthstar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:09:17am
400 Interesting Times  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:09:38am

re: #398 Mattand

I need to get to NYC. Haven’t seen the dinos at the Natural History museum in a while.

Godless librul lies!!1!1

401 Gus  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:16:02am

That TGDN stuff is so stupid. Plus, he was first grifting for money for someone to monitor TGDN and now he’s grifting for money for some legal defense fund.

402 CuriousLurker  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:16:03am

I can’t stay this morning, but I just wanted to drop off this little jewel, brought to you by idiots Walid Shoebat & son via WND (emphasis mine):

High-schoolers told cannibalism allowed
University where Obama spoke instructs in ‘this type of violence’

The curriculum used to instruct young Egyptian students includes permission for them to use Christians and others as lunch, according to a startling report from Walid and Theodore Shoebat, on the website for Walid Shoebat, a former Muslim Brotherhood member who is now a peace activist.

“In the future, the Egyptian Islamists will not only be conducting systematic violence, but cannibalism against Christians and moderates,” they reported, citing a video interview from a man identified as “One Egyptian scholar” that is online.

The teachings are from the curriculum coming from Al-Azhar university, “the most reputable of all Islamic schools,” according to the report that includes video from the Eretz Zen Channel. […]

Link to WebCite version of page…

As you can see from these Google results, the wingnuts are on it. I’m trying to get angry, but I can’t seem to stop LOL long enough to work myself up into a fit of outrage. If you read the whole article you’ll see that they even provide a page number from the supposed Al-Azhar book in question, to make it seem more legit.

FWIW, Sharia covers just about everything, so I’m sure it covers cannibalism too. I know for a fact that we’re allowed to eat pork or any other prohibited thing if and ONLY if we’re in danger of dying of starvation., so I wouldn’t be surprised if cannibalism was also allowed in order to survive as the preservation of life is paramount; dietary rules do not trump it.

I don’t know of any society or religion that would prohibit cannibalism under dire circumstances, but “systematic” cannibalism of Christians & moderates being sanctioned? That’s beyond absurd—it’s a form of blood libel.

As far as I can tell, the “Eretz Zen Channel” is nothing more than some guy’s YouTube channel. From what I gather, he’s Lebanese former military commander-in-chief, Michel Aoun. Based on his name he’s Christian, so that might explain his hostility towards Muslims. As for his military background, who knows? Shoebat claims to have been a former terrorist, which is pure bunk.

403 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:16:33am

re: #401 Gus

How are ya feeling?

404 Gus  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:17:08am

What’s it with all those swatting claims too. I never heard of swatting until last year. Today he’s claiming an “attempted” swatting. WTF is that? What planet are these people from? Is this something from the south that I don’t know about?

405 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:17:09am

re: #401 Gus

Hows the ankle?

406 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:17:19am

re: #402 CuriousLurker

I can’t stay this morning, but I just wanted to drop off this little jewel, brought to you by idiots Walid Shoebat & son via WND (emphasis mine):

As you can see from these Google results, the wingnuts are on it. I’m trying to get angry, but I can’t seem to stop LOL long enough to work myself up into a fit of outrage. If you read the whole article you’ll see that they even provide a page number from the supposed Al-Azhar book in question, to make it seem more legit.

FWIW, Sharia covers just about everything, so I’m sure it covers cannibalism too. I know for a fact that we’re allowed to eat pork or any other prohibited thing if and ONLY if we’re in danger of dying of starvation., so I wouldn’t be surprised if cannibalism was also allowed in order to survive as the preservation of life is paramount; dietary rules do not trump it.

I don’t know of any society or religion that would prohibit cannibalism under dire circumstances, but “systematic” cannibalism of Christians & moderates being sanctioned? That’s beyond absurd—it’s a form of blood libel.

As far as I can tell, the “Eretz Zen Channel” is nothing more than some guy’s YouTube channel. From what I gather, he’s Lebanese former military commander-in-chief, Michel Aoun. Based on his name he’s Christian, so that might explain his hostility towards Muslims. As for his military background, who knows? Shoebat claims to have been a former terrorist, which is pure bunk.

Looks just like the Blood Libel. Evolution in action!

407 Geoff with a G  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:17:42am
408 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:17:52am

re: #390 Vicious Babushka

Buck has a Pam Geller thing going on here.

What happened to his page that was denying the forced contraception of Ethiopian women story? It disappeared overnight.

409 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:18:51am

re: #391 Interesting Times

Ontario lost 80-90% of its apple crop for the exact same reason. I was desperately hoping the same thing wouldn’t happen this year, but judging from the January we’ve had thus far - spring-like temperatures approaching 15°C, followed by a week of freezing cold where they were closer to -15°C, and today, once again, rainy, stormy, and back up near the 15°C - it’s not looking good :(

Pear trees need ‘chill hours’ to produce. Our two trees had 4 pears last year, and it looks like we’re on the same path (73 degrees right now.)
Weather is not climate. A big bunch of weather is a good substitute.

410 Sionainn  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:19:03am

re: #408 RadicalModerate

What happened to his page that was denying the forced contraception of Ethiopian women story? It disappeared overnight.

It disappeared this morning and I think it might have to do with a hate site being used in it. Just my guess.

411 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:19:19am

re: #408 RadicalModerate

What happened to his page that was denying the forced contraception of Ethiopian women story? It disappeared overnight.

I reported it for linking to a hate site. I guess Charles will make the final decision once he get here. I think Buck has entered the end stages of LGF dementia.

412 Gus  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:19:25am

re: #403 lawhawk

How are ya feeling?

re: #405 Bubblehead II

Hows the ankle?

Thanks… Hurts but the Naproxin wore out so I took some more this morning and now it’s feeling better. Got to check some walk-in clinic locations. Guess it needs an x-ray.

413 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:20:17am

re: #411 Vicious Babushka

I reported it for linking to a hate site. I guess Charles will make the final decision once he get here. I think Buck has entered the end stages of LGF dementia.

He linked to another one? Didn’t he learn anything from the last time he did it?

414 Gus  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:21:11am

Yumpin’ Yimminy, Buck sure is obsessed.

415 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:21:13am

re: #404 Gus

What’s it with all those swatting claims too. I never heard of swatting until last year. Today he’s claiming an “attempted” swatting. WTF is that? What planet are these people from? Is this something from the south that I don’t know about?

It’s something from the internets, calling in a SWAT-worthy 911 fake to an enemy’s address. LGF nemeses were trading accusations of it a year ago—Patterico’s circle.

416 Gus  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:22:49am

re: #415 Decatur Deb

It’s something from the internets, calling in a SWAT-worthy 911 fake to an enemy’s address. LGF nemeses were trading accusations of it a year ago—Patterico’s circle.

Oh yeah, I remember all that. Just never seen it mention so much like this is what I guess I was saying. It all reeks. Sometimes it seems like they’re working together even though appearing as enemies in public. Just really strange behavior.

417 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:24:46am

I see that Malkin and others are still claiming that the father of one of the kids massacred in Newtown wasn’t heckled.

Umm…

418 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:25:33am

re: #417 lawhawk

I see that Malkin and others are still claiming that the father of one of the kids massacred in Newtown wasn’t heckled.

Umm…

No true guncarrying Scot.

419 EmmaAnne  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:26:09am

re: #309 Vicious Babushka

Yeah, right. Try driving across the entire country without ever hitting a city.

420 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:26:54am

re: #417 lawhawk

I see that Malkin and others are still claiming that the father of one of the kids massacred in Newtown wasn’t heckled.

Umm…

The tree-hugging hippie part of me sometimes wants to feel sympathy for David Frum. Then I remember he wants much the same results from different RW tactics.

421 Gus  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:27:02am

re: #417 lawhawk

I see that Malkin and others are still claiming that the father of one of the kids massacred in Newtown wasn’t heckled.

Umm…

People are arguing with a guy with a fake name: Jim Treacher. Pretty weird if you ask me. I think he’s in his 30s. What’s with all the immaturity these days?

422 erik_t  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:27:22am

re: #417 lawhawk

@davidfrum Hint: if the moderator of a public meeting says you will be cleared from room if you don’t shut up, you are heckling

God, Frum, wake the fuck up and look at the party around you.

It’s getting pitiful.

423 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:27:33am

re: #419 EmmaAnne

Yeah, right. Try driving across the entire country without ever hitting a city.

WHY DOES THIS DAMN-BLASTED INTERSTATE NOT GO IN A STRAIGHT LINE!1!

424 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:27:54am

re: #420 Decatur Deb

The tree-hugging hippie part of me sometimes wants to feel sympathy for David Frum. Then I remember he wants much the same results from different RW tactics.

Yeah, that’s the damndest thing. I feel bad for Frum but then I remember, his real problem is with the tactics more so than the ideology.

425 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:28:29am
426 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:29:13am

re: #422 erik_t

God, Frum, wake the fuck up and look at the party around you.

It’s getting pitiful.

He thinks people like him can save the GOP. Admirable or delusional? I lean towards the latter. Their party was always a bit nuts IMO. I mean lest we forget the McCain illegitimate black baby rumor.

427 Sionainn  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:29:16am

re: #425 Vicious Babushka

Credit cards and PayPal accepted.

428 darthstar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:29:21am

re: #422 erik_t

God, Frum, wake the fuck up and look at the party around you.

It’s getting pitiful.

He keeps waiting for them to come around, but their rudder is stuck and they’re tacking ever closer to the cliffs. I just wish they’d run aground already.

429 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:29:49am

Does this mean law enforcement armed response team came out to his house or just some people were making fun of him on Twitter?

430 erik_t  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:30:32am

re: #426 HappyWarrior

He thinks people like him can save the GOP. Admirable or delusional? I lean towards the latter. Their party was always a bit nuts IMO. I mean lest we forget the McCain illegitimate black baby rumor.

I’m sticking with pitiful. There’s no way the man is stupid enough to believe it, but he’s too much an abused party spouse to do anything about it.

431 Gus  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:31:04am

re: #425 Vicious Babushka

Like I said. Weirdos.

432 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:31:05am

re: #421 Gus

Not going to argue about using psedonyms online.

But I will argue against the reasoning by those who think that heckling was justified or allowed under the rules in that hearing (CT rules):

HEARING PROCEDURES

Speaking Order: One of the committee’s co-chairpersons will preside over the hearing, setting rules that seem fair for the circumstances and calling speakers from the signup sheets. At many, but not all hearings, the first hour is reserved for legislators and agency heads or invited guests. Remaining speakers are usually called in the order in which their names appear on the signup sheet, although some chairpersons alternate between supporters and opponents of a bill. Chairpersons often ask large groups to appoint a single spokesperson. Some committees hear all testimony on one bill before proceeding to the next, following the agenda printed in the bulletin.

Comings and Goings: Some hearings last for several hours. Legislators may leave and reenter the room if they are scheduled for more than one hearing or meeting. But all testimony is recorded so they can read it later.

Decorum: A hearing is an important step in the process of making law, so it is a formal occasion. Please give your courteous attention to other speakers, regardless of their views. Don’t applaud or indicate pleasure or displeasure with anyone’s remarks.

YOUR TURN AT THE MICROPHONE

When you are called, sit at the speaker’s desk. You may begin with “Madam Chair, Mr. Chairman” (as appropriate) “and members of the committee.” Introduce yourself very distinctly so the transcriber can understand, and mention your town and the number and title of the bill you’ll be speaking on. In addition, most hearings and meetings are covered by Connecticut Network (CT-N) for broadcast over local cable access stations.

Indicate right away whether you support the bill, oppose it, or are offering suggestions to improve it. Then explain your reasoning. Follow this procedure for each bill you discuss.

Keep your remarks short; 3-5 minutes is usually enough, but be sure not to exceed any announced time limits. If other speakers have already made your point, you can say that you agree with, or want to associate yourself with the remarks of one or more previous speakers. Your views and your name will then be clearly on record.

When you finish, remain at the microphone for a moment, in case committee members want to ask questions. Then return to your seat or leave the hearing, as you wish.

433 darthstar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:31:30am

re: #425 Vicious Babushka

Okay I’ll bite…WTF is a SWAT attack?

434 CuriousLurker  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:31:36am

re: #411 Vicious Babushka

I reported it for linking to a hate site. I guess Charles will make the final decision once he get here. I think Buck has entered the end stages of LGF dementia.

Are you talking about Failed Messiah, the one where they’re always hating on Chabad/Orthodox? If so, there’s another link in this comment.

435 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:32:41am

re: #390 Vicious Babushka

Buck has a Pam Geller thing going on here.

I just noticed the site that he’s citing in his latest page. Isn’t that the one that had several YouTube videos yanked due to ties to Robert Spencer’s “Jihadwatch” site and were engaging in hate speech?

436 Sionainn  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:32:54am

re: #429 Vicious Babushka

Does this mean law enforcement armed response team came out to his house or just some people were making fun of him on Twitter?

I think they are talking about online…being put in timeout or something on Twitter. What a bunch of crybabies.

437 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:33:37am

re: #433 darthstar

It’s making a 911 call indicating a situation where police have to come in heavily armed (sending in the SWAT team) - as in a claimed hostage incident, etc.

It diverts resources and costs significant amount of time and money for the law enforcement agencies.

There are heavy fines and penalties for making false claims in calls, but apparently not strong enough. The people who do this are often sophisticated in using telcom procedures to mask their identities or source of the call.

438 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:33:39am

re: #434 CuriousLurker

Are you talking about Failed Messiah, the one where they’re always hating on Chabad/Orthodox? If so, there’s another link in this comment.

Yeah, FM is a seething anti-Orthodox hate site. It is so evil that it is frequently cited by Stormfront & similar sites as a beard. (“This can’t be anti-Semitic because A JUICE wrote it!1!”)

439 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:33:54am

re: #430 erik_t

I’m sticking with pitiful. There’s no way the man is stupid enough to believe it, but he’s too much an abused party spouse to do anything about it.

Works for me. I mean I appreciate him calling out nutcases but his insane loyalty to the party is creepy.

440 kirkspencer  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:34:41am

I’ve also noticed an interesting trend, where getting a police visit because someone called in a complaint gets called swatting.

441 Lidane  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:35:03am

Frum’s Twitter feed is going to be a hoot today:

442 darthstar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:38:31am

re: #437 lawhawk

It’s making a 911 call indicating a situation where police have to come in heavily armed (sending in the SWAT team) - as in a claimed hostage incident, etc.

It diverts resources and costs significant amount of time and money for the law enforcement agencies.

There are heavy fines and penalties for making false claims in calls, but apparently not strong enough. The people who do this are often sophisticated in using telcom procedures to mask their identities or source of the call.

They’re doing this on twitter? Or did someone actually get a real SWAT team to raid his mom’s apartment?

I assume everything these guys talk about falls into the Walter Mitty category of credibility.

443 Lidane  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:39:29am

“War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.”

444 CuriousLurker  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:40:20am

re: #438 Vicious Babushka

Yeah, FM is a seething anti-Orthodox hate site. It is so evil that it is frequently cited by Stormfront & similar sites as a beard. (“This can’t be anti-Semitic because A JUICE wrote it!1!”)

E gad. I’ve only run across it a couple of times and it didn’t take long for me to figure out it what kind of site is was and get the hell out.

I don’t know how people stand lugging around all that hate 24/7.

445 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:41:42am

re: #444 CuriousLurker

E gad. I’ve only run across it a couple of times and it didn’t take long for me to figure out it what kind of site is was and get the hell out.

I don’t know how people stand lugging around all that hate 24/7.

I think some people define and empower themselves by their hate.

446 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:42:20am

re: #443 Lidane

Because fascist regimes have been such champions of gay equality over the years.

447 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:42:22am

re: #445 Feline Fearless Leader

I think some people define and empower themselves by their hate.

That’s what #TGDN is all about.

448 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:42:27am

re: #438 Vicious Babushka

Yeah, FM is a seething anti-Orthodox hate site. It is so evil that it is frequently cited by Stormfront & similar sites as a beard. (“This can’t be anti-Semitic because A JUICE wrote it!1!”)

Maybe it’s a good thing that it did get yanked then, because I linked to them in my response to him on that page another article that directly refuted his post. I thought they were a dodgy group, but wasn’t aware of that aspect.

It might be a good idea to flag the Aigle-bot page from a couple of days ago too since that appears to be where the inspiration for the yanked page came from. I’ve already reported my own post in that thread for deletion.

449 darthstar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:44:33am
450 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:46:08am

re: #448 RadicalModerate

Maybe it’s a good thing that it did get yanked then, because I linked to them in my response to him on that page another article that directly refuted his post. I thought they were a dodgy group, but wasn’t aware of that aspect.

It might be a good idea to flag the Aigle-bot page from a couple of days ago too since that appears to be where the inspiration for the yanked page came from. I’ve already reported my own post in that thread for deletion.

Of course the whiny excuse is always “But I didn’t know it was a hate site because nobody told me!”

It doesn’t take an advanced degree to figure out if a blog is a hate site or not. If all it contains are articles that attack one specific race/ethnicity/religion/gender/orientation to give the impression that EVERYONE in that group is evil, it’s a freaking hate site.

451 darthstar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:46:16am

Hey…Jim Nabors got married! Holy, crap…Gomer Pyle’s still alive.

[Link: www.hawaiinewsnow.com…]

452 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:49:36am

re: #442 darthstar

Don’t know whether it actually happened with Todd’s claims - usually there’s a news report about this happening somewhere - if only because the law enforcement agency wants people to know the costs for answering bogus calls. I take the claims with a pile of salt.

453 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:52:22am

re: #451 darthstar

Hey…Jim Nabors got married! Holy, crap…Gomer Pyle’s still alive.

[Link: www.hawaiinewsnow.com…]

Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!

454 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:55:50am

Good morning lizards!

Big ass storm headed my way. I just talked to my friend in Gallatin, Tn. He said they had tornadoes right down the road from him at 3:00 this morning.

455 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:58:09am

re: #414 Gus

Yumpin’ Yimminy, Buck sure is obsessed.

Karma: -12,965

Impressive, Buck.

456 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 8:59:57am

re: #454 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning lizards!

Big ass storm headed my way. I just talked to my friend in Gallatin, Tn. He said they had tornadoes right down the road from him at 3:00 this morning.

Stay safe. Sounds like the south is in for a wild and wooly day.

457 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:02:08am

Happy birthday!

Once-doomed, NY’s Grand Central turns 100 as celebrated landmark

NEW YORK (Reuters) - It made its debut in the heyday of cross-country train travel, faced demolition in the era of the auto, and got a new lease on life with a facelift in its eighth decade.

Now Grand Central Terminal, the doyenne of American train stations, is celebrating its 100th birthday.

Opened on February 2, 1913, when trains were a luxurious means of traveling across America, the iconic New York landmark with its Beaux-Arts facade is an architectural gem, and still one of America’s greatest transportation hubs.

It is also the Big Apple’s second-most-popular tourist attraction, after Times Square.

“We are among the top 10 most-visited sites in the world,” boasted Dan Brucker, manager of Grand Central Tours at Metro-North Railroad, the commuter rail service that operates from Grand Central.

“Every day more than 750,000 people come through Grand Central Terminal - that is the entire population of Alaska that walks through here every day. It is the entire population of the state of North Dakota,” he noted.

Many are commuters who arrive on trains every 58 seconds at the peak of the morning rush, pouring onto the terminal’s dozens of platforms. Tourists gasp at the vaulted ceiling and sprawling 22,000-square-foot marble concourse, which has doubled as a film set for movies such as “The Fisher King” and “The Cotton Club.” And thousands from both groups eat and shop at any of the 103 restaurants and stores.

“There are a lot of beautiful old train stations in this country but none as big, and none as ornate, and none as elevated and well-known as Grand Central,” said Gabrielle Shubert, the director of New York Transit Museum.

458 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:03:39am

re: #456 Dr Lizardo

Stay safe. Sounds like the south is in for a wild and wooly day.

It’s just reaching the Virginia/WV line. We should get it here in a couple of hours. It’s windy as hell outside right now.

[Link: www.intellicast.com…]

459 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:06:08am

re: #456 Dr Lizardo

Stay safe. Sounds like the south is in for a wild and wooly day.

We had that blow thru Dallas yesterday afternoon. Big storms, and a huge temperature drop behind the frontal line. Yesterday it hit 84 degrees, today the expected high is below 50.

460 Lidane  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:06:33am
461 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:08:51am

re: #460 Lidane

Sex ed bad, NRA ed good. Lovely.

462 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:09:37am

I was right! We had an earthquake here near Ostrava this morning around 0230! Moment magnitude 3.2: I knew I felt it and heard it!

463 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:10:01am
464 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:11:20am

re: #463 wrenchwench

Damn it.

465 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:12:12am

re: #462 Dr Lizardo

I was right! We had an earthquake here near Ostrava this morning around 0230! Moment magnitude 3.2: I knew I felt it and heard it!

Earthquake in the Czech Republic. Why that’s like having an earthquake in D.C…….Oh wait that happened.

466 Geoff with a G  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:12:19am
We think it is reasonable to provide mandatory, instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show,” LaPierre said during a hearing held on May 27, 1999, in the wake of the Columbine High School shooting. “No loopholes anywhere for anyone. That means closing the Hinckley loophole so the records of those adjudicated mentally ill are in the system.”

Flippity-floppity, LaPierre stye

467 Lidane  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:12:23am

Flip, meet flop:

468 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:12:28am

re: #463 wrenchwench

TGDNtards have been jubilating over it.

469 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:13:11am

re: #468 Vicious Babushka

TGDNtards have been jubilating over it.

That’s a symptom of mental illness.

470 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:13:22am

re: #467 Lidane

Flip, meet flop:

Good on Pat Leahy or whoever on his staff caught LaPierre’s bullshit.

471 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:13:32am

re: #417 lawhawk

I see that Malkin and others are still claiming that the father of one of the kids massacred in Newtown wasn’t heckled.

Umm…

Regardless of the minutae, it was desrespectful, but these fellows felt compelled to respond to a rhetorical question and made it clear that to them, 2nd Amendment rights are more inportant than a child’s right to a safe environment.

472 dragonfire1981  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:13:48am

re: #460 Lidane

At first I misread Missouri as Mississippi and was all set to fire off a nasty letter to my Governor.

473 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:13:56am

Morsi: comments about Jews taken out of context

Egypt’s President Mohammed Morsi is defending comments that he made in 2010 referring to Jews as “the descendants of apes and pigs,” saying that they were taken out of context.

Morsi’s criticized remarks came from a mix of speeches he made in 2010 when he was a leading Muslim Brotherhood figure. The remarks were revived when an Egyptian TV show aired them this month to highlight and mock Morsi’s current policies.

Speaking after a meeting Wednesday with German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who said she brought up the comments in her talks with the Egyptian leader, Morsi said he was “not against the Jewish faith or the Jewish people.”

He says “my comments were about conduct that sheds blood and kills innocent people _ things neither I … nor anyone condones.”

Liar.

474 makeitstop  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:13:57am

re: #463 wrenchwench

A 15-year-old girl who performed at Obama’s second Inauguration was shot to death in Chicago yesterday

That’s just sad.

One of the wingnuts on my FB feed posted that story this morning. It was almost as if he was gloating about it.

Those people have no shame about using anything to prove ‘Obama=bad.’ I’ll never understand it.

475 dragonfire1981  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:17:29am

re: #468 Vicious Babushka

TGDNtards have been jubilating over it.

Not surprising, but really it’s just probabilities we’re talking about here.

For example, if I make the statement: A man who attended a Lakers game last week died this morning.

Now of course thousands of people go to those games. Say the Lakers play 3 home games in a week. The Staples Center capacity is approximately 20 000, obviously a lot of spectators will go to more than one game, but we can probably say across three games you would have 30 000 unique visitors to the arena.

I’d be willing to bet that if you tracked similarly large populations you’d see deaths pretty regularly.

There were a lot of people who performed at and participated in the Inauguration ceremony and thus it makes statistical sense that one of them would have something bad happen to them soon after.

476 Lidane  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:17:41am
477 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:18:55am

re: #476 Lidane

Poor Lindsay’s so afraid of being primaried. I mean first saying Secretary Clinton got away with murder and now this? Note to Lindsay, it’s not going to work.

478 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:19:36am

re: #477 HappyWarrior

Poor Lindsay’s so afraid of being primaried. I mean first saying Secretary Clinton got away with murder and now this? Note to Lindsay, it’s not going to work.

They will replace him with someone even more conservative.

479 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:19:57am

re: #475 dragonfire1981

Not surprising, but really it’s just probabilities we’re talking about here.

For example, if I make the statement: A man who attended a Lakers game last week died this morning.

Now of course thousands of people go to those games. Say the Lakers play 3 home games in a week. The Staples Center capacity is approximately 20 000, obviously a lot of spectators will go to more than one game, but we can probably say across three games you would have 30 000 unique visitors to the arena.

I’d be willing to bet that if you tracked similarly large populations you’d see deaths pretty regularly.

There were a lot of people who performed at and participated in the Inauguration ceremony and thus it makes statistical sense that one of them would have something bad happen to them soon after.

True that. Always of course tragic to hear about anyone being murdered especially a young person. That someone would twist this sad story to suit an anti-Obama agenda is simply pathetic but not very surprising unfortunately.

480 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:20:17am

re: #478 Sol Berdinowitz

They will replace him with someone even more conservative.

Exactly.

481 stabby  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:21:44am

re: #265 Sol Berdinowitz

Another thing I fear is the aftermath of another large natural and/or man-made disaster, especially a terrorist attack. If the government moves in to restore order and declares marial law, these fellows will see it as a declaration of war on True Patriots and start shooting back.

It could get very, very ugly.

Heckling the father of a dead child betrays the level of tribalism that, previously, I’d only seen in the middle east and Africa.

The things that saves us from them treating the American army under a Democrat president as a foreign invasion, and attacking it (the way for instance, any Muslim country would react to a non-Muslim army) is:
1) Our ARMY isn’t hated, by these people
2) they have their own children in the Army
3) they don’t have powerful militias of their own (yet)

482 kirkspencer  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:22:33am

re: #475 dragonfire1981

Yep, millions attended the inauguration. But millions did not perform. And “died” isn’t hot and killed.

Do you not see the problem when being shot is handwaved as ‘just a statistical likelihood’?

483 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:22:42am

HA HA HA HA

484 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:23:18am

re: #477 HappyWarrior

Voted against the $50.5b Sandy aid package too.

485 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:23:28am

re: #481 stabby

Can you define how you’re using the term ‘tribalism’, here?

I know the term gets misused a lot, but now it just appears to be becoming a synonym for ‘partisan’.

If the word is meant to mean ‘acting like members of a tribe’, these douchebags don’t at all act like members of a tribe.

486 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:24:08am

re: #483 Vicious Babushka

Like moths to a flame. Lemmings to the cliff..

Or, sweet delicious irony.

487 Lidane  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:25:25am

Could someone please remind these morons that the Cold War ended 20+ years ago?

488 stabby  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:25:57am

re: #478 Sol Berdinowitz

They will replace him with someone even more conservative.

You need to find a new word to use other than “conservative”

That poor word is trying to commit suicide under the weight and shame of the meaning you’re saddling it with.

489 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:26:13am

re: #487 Lidane

Could someone please remind these morons that the Cold War ended 20+ years ago?

After we get done reminding them that the Civil War ended 150 years ago, and THEIR SIDE LOST.

490 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:26:39am

re: #484 lawhawk

Voted against the $50.5b Sandy aid package too.

Lame. He should be glad that New Yorkers and New Jerseyians(is that how you say it) would be generous if a hurricane hit South Carolina’s shores.

491 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:26:40am

Taken from the article that NJDHF quoted above:

“Every day more than 750,000 people come through Grand Central Terminal - that is the entire population of Alaska that walks through here every day. It is the entire population of the state of North Dakota,”

Should pass that datum on to those who don’t understand the population density effect in elections.

492 stabby  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:26:42am

re: #485 Obdicut

I think you should become more familiar with the common meanings of that word.

493 Skeetghazi  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:26:47am

OT.

OMG Waiting here for the owner to come with my final check.

5 of us.

We had champagne to get ready. It’s 925.

494 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:27:07am

re: #465 HappyWarrior

Earthquake in the Czech Republic. Why that’s like having an earthquake in D.C…….Oh wait that happened.

[Link: www.emsc-csem.org…]

It was small, 3.2, but enough that I felt it.

495 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:27:46am

re: #490 HappyWarrior

Lame. He should be glad that New Yorkers and New Jerseyians(is that how you say it) would be generous if a hurricane hit South Carolina’s shores.

I was taught that it was New Jerseyites. Makes it sound like the state is occupied by some sort of mineral. I guess they get refined into something else at some point.
;)

496 Lidane  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:27:50am

re: #489 Vicious Babushka

After we get done reminding them that the Civil War ended 150 years ago, and THEIR SIDE LOST.

Heh. Good point. That might take a while.

497 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:28:36am

re: #489 Vicious Babushka

After we get done reminding them that the Civil War ended 150 years ago, and THEIR SIDE LOST.

Just another meaningless fact.
/

498 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:29:31am

re: #495 Feline Fearless Leader

I was taught that it was New Jerseyites. Makes it sound like the state is occupied by some sort of mineral. I guess they get refined into something else at some point.
;)

Haha, demoyms are so weird. My favorite is Pittsburghnese to denote a speaker with a Pittsburgh area accent because I hear -nese and think of Eastern Asia.

499 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:29:59am

re: #493 Stanghazi

OT.

OMG Waiting here for the owner to come with my final check.

5 of us.

We had champagne to get ready. It’s 925.

You’ve just spent about four times as much as the central bank of Zimbabwe has on hand.

Before you get depressed about the state of your finances, spare a thought for the nation of Zimbabwe, which as of Tuesday had exactly $217 in the bank.


That’s 217 dollars, not $217 million or $217 billion.
Finance Minister Tendai Biti said Tuesday that that was all that was left in the country’s public accounts after it paid its civil servants last week, the South African Press Association reported. He told reporters in the capital, Harare, that some of them were probably better off than the state.

An economic crisis is all but certain.

500 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:30:48am

re: #491 Feline Fearless Leader

Taken from the article that NJDHF quoted above:

Should pass that datum on to those who don’t understand the population density effect in elections.

I used to take the train from Ct to NYC all the time. There was a small bar in there that had like 6 seats in it. The guy who owned it had a little tape player playing Van Morrison and a stack of Van Morrison cassettes next to it.

501 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:31:35am

re: #499 lawhawk

You’ve just spent about four times as much as the central bank of Zimbabwe has on hand.

An economic crisis is all but certain.

I’m sure there are those in the GOP who have been taking notes.

502 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:31:55am

re: #489 Vicious Babushka

After we get done reminding them that the Civil War ended 150 years ago, and THEIR SIDE LOST.

Good luck with that. They have been in denial since Appomattox.

503 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:32:10am

re: #498 HappyWarrior

Haha, demoyms are so weird. My favorite is Pittsburghnese to denote a speaker with a Pittsburgh area accent because I hear -nese and think of Eastern Asia.

With all this rain it’s gettin’ slippy n’at outside.
;)

504 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:32:13am

re: #499 lawhawk

You’ve just spent about four times as much as the central bank of Zimbabwe has on hand.

An economic crisis is all but certain.

Yikes! That is definitely a problem.

505 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:32:31am

re: #488 stabby

You need to find a new word to use other than “conservative”

That poor word is trying to commit suicide under the weight and shame of the meaning you’re saddling it with.

Even more wingnut, then. You are right, the term “conservative” has a few positive connotations left to it, ones that most of the Tea party lacks.

506 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:32:54am

re: #492 stabby

I think you should become more familiar with the common meanings of that word.

I don’t. There’s been a rash of people using it lately to basically just mean ‘partisan’, or to mean ‘fanatical’. We have words for those concepts already.

Tribalism is really the wrong word to use for this. Tribes are small groups of interdependent people sharing a group identity. The key is that they’re actually interedependent; they also tend to have a relatively flat social structure and are cooperative. In short, tribes, and being tribalistic, have a lot of positive attributes to it, and the only perceived negative one is a strong group identification.

Why bastardize a word and erase its much more nuanced meaning just to come up with another word for ‘fanatic’ or ‘partisan’?

If these fuckers actually were tribalistic, at least they’d understand the concept of interdependence.

507 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:33:23am

re: #487 Lidane

Could someone please remind these morons that the Cold War ended 20+ years ago?

Yeah it’s not hyperbole to say there’s a Communist takeover when the right wing party controls one house of the legislature. I mean that’s just like when the Soviet Union. Oh wait, no, Barber’s just full of shit because he’s afraid of Communists.

508 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:33:39am

re: #502 Bubblehead II

Good luck with that. They have been in denial since Appomattox.

“It’s not over until we say it is!”

509 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:33:45am

I had to.

510 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:34:26am

re: #475 dragonfire1981

Not surprising, but really it’s just probabilities we’re talking about here.

For example, if I make the statement: A man who attended a Lakers game last week died this morning.

Now of course thousands of people go to those games. Say the Lakers play 3 home games in a week. The Staples Center capacity is approximately 20 000, obviously a lot of spectators will go to more than one game, but we can probably say across three games you would have 30 000 unique visitors to the arena.

I’d be willing to bet that if you tracked similarly large populations you’d see deaths pretty regularly.

There were a lot of people who performed at and participated in the Inauguration ceremony and thus it makes statistical sense that one of them would have something bad happen to them soon after.

The statistical likelihood is greater when the deceased lived in the south side of Chicago. The fact that the president who was being inaugurated lived there too made it more likely for someone from there to be performing at the event. The fact that we have a president with those kinds of connections is politically and historically relevant. The fact that the girl was murdered is also politically relevant. That the wingnuts are gloating about her death is evidence of that. Non-wingnuts should be equally concerned, in whatever way is the opposite of gloating, for instance, mourning and demanding actions that will make such murders less of a statistical likelihood.

511 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:34:35am

re: #509 NJDhockeyfan

I had to.

[Embedded content]

Nothing wrong with Van.

512 dragonfire1981  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:35:31am

I want to thank the Lizard (forget who it was) that mentioned that PBS was airing that Revisionaries documentary about the Texas State Board of Education. I got around to watching it this morning. Really eye opening look at that group of people and the power they have. I also liked the fact there was virtually no narration and they simply let the sound bites and interviews speak for themselves.

I didn’t kind of cringe at the comment repeated at least twice by Mr. Mclean the former head of the board that “Evolution theory makes the case that humans and trees have a common ancestor.”

513 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:35:32am

re: #482 kirkspencer

Yep, millions attended the inauguration. But millions did not perform. And “died” isn’t hot and killed.

Do you not see the problem when being shot is handwaved as ‘just a statistical likelihood’?

+1

514 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:36:01am

re: #511 HappyWarrior

Nothing wrong with Van.

I love this song.

515 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:37:25am

re: #512 dragonfire1981

Humans and trees almost certainly do have a common ancestor, though.

516 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:37:35am

I was always weirded out seeing rebel flags in the areas near Sharpsburg(where the battle of Antietam happened) and Gettysburg. I mean damn it guys, the Confederates invaded your area. As I said on one of the other discussions about the CIvil War, if Southerners want to be proud of their great great grandfather who worked for the Army of Northern Virginia fine, but I can be proud of mine who was the first American in my family and who played a tiny role in making the CSA no more.

517 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:38:01am

re: #514 NJDhockeyfan

I love this song.

[Embedded content]

Yep, it’s a good one.

518 stabby  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:40:47am

re: #506 Obdicut

Yes you do.

The word “tribalism” doesn’t mean “like a tribe” anymore than the word “antisemitsm” means “hates semites.”

It’s not my problem to defend the English language from the hautiness of illiterate people, it’s their problem to learn how it’s actually used.

519 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:40:52am

re: #508 Feline Fearless Leader

“It’s not over until we say it is!”

It’s absolutely terrifying when you consider that a Sen. John Blutarsky would run mental circles around the current crop of Republicans out there.

520 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:42:35am

re: #518 stabby

Yes you do.

The word “tribalism” doesn’t mean “like a tribe” anymore than the word “antisemitsm” means “hates semites.”

It’s not my problem to defend the English language from the hautiness of illiterate people, it’s their problem to learn how it’s actually used.

I am not stepping into this discussion, just pointing out that it is spelled “haughtiness”.

(and I am using the spell check next time)

You nauty boy, you…

521 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:43:11am

re: #519 RadicalModerate

It’s absolutely terrifying when you consider that a Sen. John Blutarsky would run mental circles around the current crop of Republicans out there.

Do you think in the Animal House fictional universe Bluto ever made it to the White House?

522 stabby  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:43:28am

I knew I was misspelling that word and didn’t care.

523 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:44:21am

re: #518 stabby

Yes you do.

The word “tribalism” doesn’t mean “like a tribe” anymore than the word “antisemitsm” means “hates semites.”

It’s not my problem to defend the English language from the hautiness of illiterate people, it’s their problem to learn how it’s actually used.

The irony of this is that you are an amazingly bad communicator. You just took a minor argument about semantics and you’re getting all wrathful and irate. Chill out, and when you’re accusing someone of illiteracy, don’t misspell a word in the same sentence.

524 iossarian  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:44:55am

Grammar fight! Grammar fight!

525 stabby  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:45:12am

re: #523 Obdicut

I’m not the one attacking others because of my own ignorance of the English language.

526 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:45:16am

re: #522 stabby

I knew I was misspelling that word and didn’t care.

You are very, very internet. You are one of the most internet people I know.

527 dragonfire1981  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:45:17am

re: #515 Obdicut

Humans and trees almost certainly do have a common ancestor, though.

In the sense that we all began as cell based life, yes.

528 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:45:47am

re: #521 HappyWarrior

Do you think in the Animal House fictional universe Bluto ever made it to the White House?

Naaa, I think he would feel right at home in the Senate. I have heard stories about what goes on at some of the parties they attend.

529 iossarian  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:46:12am

re: #525 stabby

I’m not the one attacking others because of my own ignorance of the English language.

Everyone likes kittens. Here are some pictures of kittens:

[Link: www.google.com…]

530 Gus  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:46:31am

re: #463 wrenchwench

God damned scum bags.

531 iossarian  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:47:17am

re: #520 Sol Berdinowitz

I am not stepping into this discussino, just pointing out that it is spelled “haughtiness”.

You nauty boy, you…

What’s a discussino?

532 Gus  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:47:30am

I Am Aware of All Internet Traditions

533 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:47:41am

re: #527 dragonfire1981

In the sense that we all began as cell based life, yes.

In the sense that there’s almost certainly a common ancestor for all life on earth. When the most recent common ancestor of plants and animals was around I don’t really know, several billion years ago.

It’d be nice if that statement on his part represented an actual bit of knowledge about evolution, but instead he’s presenting it as though it’s improbable.

534 Lidane  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:48:13am
535 erik_t  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:48:20am

re: #523 Obdicut

The irony of this is that you are an amazingly bad communicator. You just took a minor argument about semantics and you’re getting all wrathful and irate. Chill out, and when you’re accusing someone of illiteracy, don’t misspell a word in the same sentence.

Quoted for truth.

536 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:48:24am

Anti-Israel MP George Galloway Slapped Down by Prime Minister David Cameron

Devout Israel-hater George Galloway, a member of the UK Parliament, was slapped down quite handily by David Cameron during prime minister’s questions Wednesday.

Galloway asked Cameron to “adumbrate the key differences between the hand-chopping, throat-cutting jihadists fighting the dictatorship in Mali that we are now to help to kill, and the equally bloodthirsty jihadists” in Syria that the UK is aiding.

Without hesitation Cameron responded, “Some things come and go, but there is one thing that is certain: Wherever there is a brutal Arab dictator in the world, he’ll have the support of the honorable gentleman.

Heh.

537 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:48:54am

re: #531 iossarian

What’s a discussino?

Fundamental particle of conversation.

538 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:49:12am

re: #531 iossarian

What’s a discussino?

I no gonna discuss it

539 dragonfire1981  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:49:40am

OT but have to rant: My workplace had a change of ownership last year and the new owners have been busily scaling back benefits and perks. If you talk to anyone who was there under the old regime, they’ll tell you how much they miss it.

So far most of the changes have ranged anywhere from “tolerable” to “mildly frustrating.”

Then last month they let us all know that, effective the first of the year, they were cutting an ENTIRE WEEK off our usual annual allotment of paid days off.

Care to guess how most of us reacted to that?

Yeah, we’re totally thrilled. //

Of course the higher ups will no doubt keep all their vacation time.

Capitalism! Free Enterprise!

540 danarchy  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:50:27am

It is amazing how often this comic seems relevant.

Duty Calls

541 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:50:33am

re: #534 Lidane

New set of tornado warnings up - shifting south and east towards Atlanta’s northern and western suburbs.

[Link: www.srh.noaa.gov…]

542 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:50:36am

re: #538 Sol Berdinowitz

I no gonna discuss it

I had a nice cup of discussino at a little coffeeshop near the cadtetrahedal in Vencie.

543 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:51:33am

re: #538 Sol Berdinowitz

I no gonna discuss it

I saw that and just put Chico Marx saying it in response to some innocent question by Groucho.

544 darthstar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:52:30am

re: #541 lawhawk

New set of tornado warnings up - shifting south and east towards Atlanta’s northern and western suburbs.

[Link: www.srh.noaa.gov…]

That explains why they passed the Sandy relief bill.

545 Gus  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:52:53am

I hate this fucking guy, Ted Cruz.

546 Sionainn  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:53:04am

re: #539 dragonfire1981

OT but have to rant: My workplace had a change of ownership last year and the new owners have been busily scaling back benefits and perks. If you talk to anyone who was there under the old regime, they’ll tell you how much they miss it.

So far most of the changes have ranged anywhere from “tolerable” to “mildly frustrating.”

Then last month they let us all know that, effective the first of the year, they were cutting an ENTIRE WEEK off our usual annual allotment of paid days off.

Care to guess how most of us reacted to that?

Yeah, we’re totally thrilled. //

Of course the higher ups will no doubt keep all their vacation time.

Oh, that sucks!

The company I used to contract with sold to another company. Problem is that the new company has already lost a bunch of the accounts due to poor service (medical transcription), they won’t get back to me on anything I ask them about or with any information that I need to do my job. I’ve got a non-compete clause, but I’m thinking that if they drive off my accounts, then they broke the contract and I’ll be free to freelance on my own with those same accounts. Right now, the only reason they are staying with the company is because of me.

547 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:53:04am

re: #543 Feline Fearless Leader

I saw that and just put Chico Marx saying it in response to some innocent question by Groucho.

Everybody knows there ain’t no sanity clause!

548 BongCrodny  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:53:08am

re: #531 iossarian

What’s a discussino?

A really small discus.

549 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:53:34am

Dr. Jeff Masters: We’re getting an April weather system in January.

An April-like severe weather outbreak accompanied by record warmth and atmospheric moisture continues today over the Southeast U.S., where a powerful cold front is creating severe thunderstorms, damaging winds, and tornadoes over the Southeast. NOAA’s Storm Prediction Center logged four preliminary reports of tornadoes along with 264 reports of damaging winds on Tuesday, and another 71 reports of damaging winds between 7 am and 12 pm EST so far this Wednesday. A powerful tornado hit Adairsville, Georgia at 11:19 am EST this morning, and there are reports of major structural damage in the downtown district, with cars overturned (see eyewitness video here, with swear words.) The spring-like surge of warm air accompanying the severe weather outbreak has broken numerous daily high temperature records. The most notable heat record set Tuesday was the 91°F high in Corpus Christi, Texas, which tied their record for all-time warmest January temperature, set on January 30, 1971. The 62°F measured at Rockford, Illinois on Tuesday was just 1° shy of that city’s all-time January temperature record. Tornado watches are posted for a wide swath of the Southeast today, from Alabama to Virginia, and numerous tornado warnings have been issued this morning. NOAA’s Storm Prediction Center has placed most of the Southeast in their “Slight Risk” region for severe weather on Wednesday, a step down from the “Moderate Risk” potential issued on Tuesday for the Midwest.

Oh, and we’re going to be in the thick of it in the NYC metro area this evening.

550 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:53:49am

re: #545 Gus

I hate this fucking guy, Ted Cruz.

Yeah no kidding. Not even in the Senate a month and he already wants to be the new Rand Paul.

551 Gus  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:54:37am

re: #550 HappyWarrior

Yeah no kidding. Not even in the Senate a month and he already wants to be the new Rand Paul.

Congratulations, Texas. He fits in like a glove.

552 stabby  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:55:58am

I just got the most gorgeous new Android tablet in the mail last night (direct from China).

$245, 10 inch (high rez but not as good as the newest ipad) screen, has it’s own combination bluetooth-keyboard-and-stand/screen cover.

OMG the process of hacking into these chinese tablets is flakey though.

To get ADB drivers so I can develop for it, I had to use some weird “phone management software” called moborobo. The software itself doesn’t even work (crashes) but it installs drivers that you can’t seem to get anywhere else. Then I had to get software to read the vendor ID number from the tablet and edit that into adb_usb.ini.

And THEN you can develop for the machine (also and THEN the rooting script works.

whew!

553 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:56:04am

IT’S THE CONVERGENCE OF DERP. THE DERPVERGENCE.

554 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:56:07am

re: #544 darthstar

Those two US Senators from Georgia, Chambliss and Isakson, both voted against Sandy aid.

I’m hoping that the storms peter out before causing any more widespread damage, but if not, you can be sure that they’ll be demanding disaster aid before the day is out.

555 BongCrodny  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:56:08am

re: #550 HappyWarrior

Yeah no kidding. Not even in the Senate a month and he already wants to be the new Rand Paul.

Ted Cruz appears to be Gohmertian in scope.

556 iossarian  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:56:39am

re: #551 Gus

Congratulations, Texas. He fits in like a glove.

Not to be THAT GUY, but isn’t it usually something else that fits in the glove, not the glove that fits in something?

Or are we in Spinal Tap “Smell The Glove” territory now?

557 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:56:40am

re: #521 HappyWarrior

Do you think in the Animal House fictional universe Bluto ever made it to the White House?

Didin’t President Taft have a very similar reputation?

558 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:56:45am

re: #522 stabby

I knew I was misspelling that word and didn’t care.

That tells me everything I need to know about you. Pity there’s no “ignore” feature here.

559 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:58:41am

re: #558 William Barnett-Lewis

That tells me everything I need to know about you. Pity there’s no “ignore” feature here.

It’s a self-operated system called ‘GAZE’.

560 erik_t  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:59:06am

re: #559 wrenchwench

It’s a self-operated system called ‘GAZE’.

I’ve seen this. I don’t know what it means.

Plz to explain?

561 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:59:09am

re: #550 HappyWarrior

Yeah no kidding. Not even in the Senate a month and he already wants to be the new Rand Paul.

He’s moving into the Allen West zone with comments like this.

562 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:59:32am

re: #557 RadicalModerate

Didin’t President Taft have a very similar reputation?

I don’t think W.H Taft ever climbed a sorority’s window and watched them take their tops off or started a food fight to a Sam Cooke song. Don’t know too much about education, but I do know that I love youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.

563 stabby  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:59:47am

In any case it’s gonna be great for reading at 1/3 the price of an ipad and less than a fire hd.

564 Gus  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:00:55am



565 darthstar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:01:41am

re: #554 lawhawk

Those two US Senators from Georgia, Chambliss and Isakson, both voted against Sandy aid.

I’m hoping that the storms peter out before causing any more widespread damage, but if not, you can be sure that they’ll be demanding disaster aid before the day is out.

As long as they call it the “Even though your Senators are assholes tornado relief bill” before getting them to vote on it.

566 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:03:20am

re: #564 Gus

Does your local ER have free wi-fi?

567 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:03:36am

Anyone can go risk their life fighting a war, but it takes a real patriot like Ted Cruz to stand up in front of some American flags and tell us how much he loves our military.

568 Gus  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:03:36am

I don’t know about an AWB but I always get a kick that we don’t have an AWB but you can’t by some marijuana legally because “it’s a dangerous drug.”

569 stabby  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:03:42am

re: #558 William Barnett-Lewis

I didn’t do it on purpose, but didn’t care enough to correct it when I saw it was wrong.

It’s funny though, you care about an inadvertent syntactic mistake but not about someone who is demanding that everyone around him get the meaning of a word wrong.

What DOES that mean?

570 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:03:44am

re: #558 William Barnett-Lewis

That tells me everything I need to know about you. Pity there’s no “ignore” feature here.

But you can install it in your browser. Not a programmer but a Lizard linked to or wrote this script.

Autogaze

571 erik_t  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:03:45am

re: #565 darthstar

As long as they call it the “Even though your Senators are assholes tornado relief bill” before getting them to vote on it.

I’d prefer “We Don’t Punish Americans Just Because We Think They Vote For Shitheads Relief Bill”

572 Gus  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:04:13am

re: #566 Vicious Babushka

Does your local ER have free wi-fi?

:O Not there yet. Waiting for wizmo here to go food shopping first. Going when he comes back.

573 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:04:24am

re: #568 Gus

I don’t know about an AWB but I always get a kick that we don’t have an AWB but you can’t by some marijuana legally because “it’s a dangerous drug.”

But they’re giving you a script for Vicodin, right?

574 Lidane  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:05:06am

Heh:

575 Gus  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:05:07am

re: #573 Vicious Babushka

But they’re giving you a script for Vicodin, right?

Heck if I know. You know how they’re cutting down on that lately.

576 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:07:54am

re: #560 erik_t

I’ve seen this. I don’t know what it means.

Plz to explain?

If you respond to somebody with the word ‘GAZE’, it means ‘I’m not going to respond to you any more after this one’. The letters don’t stand for anything.

577 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:09:21am

TGDN, it’s a Ponzi scheme!

578 darthstar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:11:05am

FUCK FUCK FUCK…another one…live video link

579 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:11:46am

Oh shit.

Shooting with Multiple Victims Reported at Phoenix Business Complex

PHOENIX — Police have responded to reports of a shooting with multiple victims at a business complex near 16th Street and Glendale Avenue in Phoenix.

The suspect reportedly fled from the scene and a search is under way.

Aerial video shows police cars, ambulances and fire engines at the scene.

580 Interesting Times  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:12:02am

re: #576 wrenchwench

If you respond to somebody with the word ‘GAZE’, it means ‘I’m not going to respond to you any more after this one’. The letters don’t stand for anything.

“Go Away, Zero Entity” might work…

581 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:12:18am

re: #578 darthstar

FUCK FUCK FUCK…another one…live video link

Shit fucking shit.

582 Mattand  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:15:57am

re: #539 dragonfire1981

OT but have to rant: My workplace had a change of ownership last year and the new owners have been busily scaling back benefits and perks. If you talk to anyone who was there under the old regime, they’ll tell you how much they miss it.

So far most of the changes have ranged anywhere from “tolerable” to “mildly frustrating.”

Then last month they let us all know that, effective the first of the year, they were cutting an ENTIRE WEEK off our usual annual allotment of paid days off.

Care to guess how most of us reacted to that?

Yeah, we’re totally thrilled. //

Of course the higher ups will no doubt keep all their vacation time.

That’s what kills me about teachers here in NJ who support Christie’s union busting plan.

Unions admittedly have their problems. They’re not perfect. But who do these people think are going to have their backs? The public? The state government? Everyone wants the best education for their kids, but they also want it to be free.

What’s happening to you, Dragonfire, is why unions are still a necessity in many cases. At the end of the day, if most companies would get away with slave labor, they’d do it in a heartbeat.

583 makeitstop  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:16:29am

Fuck. My wife is out there for business, right in that area. Fuck.

584 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:16:43am

re: #582 Mattand

That’s what kills me about teachers here in NJ who support Christie’s union busting plan.

Unions admittedly have their problems. They’re not perfect. But who do these people think are going to have their backs? The public? The state government? Everyone wants the best education for their kids, but they also want it to be free.

What’s happening to you, Dragonfire, is why unions are still a necessity in many cases. At the end of the day, if most companies would get away with slave labor shipping your job to China, they’d do it in a heartbeat.

585 McSpiff  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:18:34pm

re: #570 Bubblehead II

But you can install it in your browser. Not a programmer but a Lizard linked to or wrote this script.

Autogaze

That was mine! Too cool.. Forgot all about it


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Pres­i­dent Theodore Roo­sevelt fa­mously said: "speak softly, and carry a big stick." His idea was to ne­go­ti­ate peace­fully, but with the ever-pre­sent threat of the "big stick," mil­i­tary ac­tion. Per­haps in this proverb lies is a valu­able les­son for lead­ers of the West­ern democ­ra­cies, and es­pe­cially for Pres­i­dent Obama. On the week­end, well co­or­di­nated and armed mil­i­tants at­tacked gov­ern­ment build­ings in six cities ...

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Randall Gross
TurboTax Maker Linked to ‘Grassroots’ Campaign Against Free, Simple Tax Filing - ProPublica
The letters and op-eds don't mention that, as ProPublica laid out last year, return-free filing might allow tens of millions of Americans to file their taxes for free and in minutes. Or that, under proposals authored by several federal lawmakers, it would be voluntary, using information the government already receives from banks and employers and that taxpayers could adjust. Or that the concept ...

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steve_davis
Skyline Pigeon
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Dark_Falcon
Presenting the Tracking Point AR series of rifles
Tracking Point has finally gotten their system to work with the AR-10 and AR-15 platforms. Now available in 5.56x45mm, 7.62x51mm and 300 AAC Blackout (a longer ranged 5.56 derivative). Hopefully, the Army and Marines can find the money for some of these, for these rifles will give our designated marksmen a real advantage in combat. They are also available for civilian sale, though at ...

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 Frank says:

Always get a second opinion. -- His personal physician did not diagnose prostate cancer before it was too advanced to treat with any success.