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Not many details available yet, but another mass shooting is being reported in Phoenix, Arizona: Shooting With Multiple Victims Reported at Phoenix Business Complex.

PHOENIX — Police have responded to reports of a shooting with multiple victims at a business complex near 16th Street and Glendale Avenue in Phoenix.

The suspect reportedly fled from the scene and a search is under way.

Aerial video shows police cars, ambulances and fire engines at the scene.

UPDATE at 1/30/13 11:21:34 am

More details are emerging: Three Critically Wounded in Shooting at Phoenix Office Complex.

Three people were critically wounded Wednesday, one of them with life-threatening injuries, when a gunman opened fire at a Phoenix office complex, fire officials told NBC News.

Authorities said the gunman was not in custody. NBC station KPNX of Phoenix reported on air that authorities were believed to be seeking a man who fled in a white vehicle.

Three other people sustained minor injuries in the incident at a complex near 16th Street and Glendale Avenue, Phoenix fire Capt. Scott McDonald said.

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318 comments

1 Kragar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:24:04am

Any word on what video game or movie drove him to do it?
/

2 makeitstop  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:24:28am

My wife is in Mesa on business. I immediately went into freakout mode, because the woman being loaded into an ambulance really looked like her.

I just got off the phone with her. She’s okay, thank God. I’m still a little freaked because the map doesn’t show much distance between the shooting scene and Mesa.

3 iossarian  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:25:46am

re: #1 Kragar

Any word on what video game or movie drove him to do it?
/

Ban violent movies! Except violent movies sponsored by the US Army or the CIA and that portray violence in a legitimately patriotic way! Those ones are OK!

4 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:27:13am

Durham men charged with shooting each other

DURHAM, N.C. — Police said Wednesday that they have charged three Durham men in connection with a recent shooting on Trinity Avenue, including two who were wounded in the incident.

Two men were shot in the 900 block of West Trinity Avenue on Jan. 21. Police said Adam Yunus Coovadia and Brandon Neville shot each other and that Coovadia remains hospitalized.

Coovadia, 19, of State Street, is charged with assault with a deadly weapon with intent to kill inflicting serious injury, possession of marijuana with the intent to manufacture, sell or deliver, possession of drug paraphernalia and two counts of possession of controlled substances within 1,000 feet of a school.

Neville, 20, of Waterford Valley Drive, faces a charge of assault with a deadly weapon with intent to kill inflicting serious injury.

He has been released from the hospital and wasn’t in custody Wednesday.

A third man, Cedric Lamar Green, 20, of Autumn Ridge Drive, faces a charge of possession of a stolen firearm in connection with the shooting. He likewise wasn’t in custody Wednesday.

I’m glad no innocent people were hit. Sheesh, what is this, the Wild West?

5 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:27:34am

re: #1 Kragar

Any word on what video game or movie drove him to do it?

Same ones that make all the Europeans and Asians go on their biweekly massacres.

You know, those.

Edit: Canadians, too.

6 stabby  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:27:36am

re: #1 Kragar

Any word on what video game or movie drove him to do it?
/

He’s 60. I would guess that his experience is not Halo, it’s actually shooting animals.

That game doesn’t count does it?

7 darthstar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:28:18am

re: #1 Kragar

Any word on what video game or movie drove him to do it?
/

Pinochle.

8 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:28:24am

I’ve got family out there too. In fact, their daughter was caught in one of the school lockdowns immediately after Newtown because someone saw something suspicious on that campus. Scary stuff indeed.

Not much information to work on. Reports indicate at least three shot and injured and that the suspect is a white male in his 60s.

9 Kragar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:28:36am

Durbin Hits Back At NRA’s LaPierre: ‘You Missed That Point Completely’

“My problem with background checks is you are never going to get criminals to go through universal background checks. And all the law-abiding people, you’ll create an enormous federal bureaucracy, unfunded, hitting all the little people in the country, will have to go through it, pay the fees, pay the taxes,” LaPierre said. “We don’t even prosecute anybody right now that goes through the system we have. So, we’re going to make all those law-abiding people go through the system and then we aren’t going to prosecute any of the bad guys if they do catch one. None of it makes any sense in the real world. We have 80,000 police families in the NRA. We care about safety. We support what works.”

After a brief interlude by Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT), the committee chairman, Durbin went after LaPierre.

“Mr. LaPierre, that’s the point,” Durbin fired back. “The criminals won’t go to purchase the guns because there’ll be a background check. We’ll stop them from original purchase. You missed that point completely. It’s basic.”

10 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:29:25am

re: #6 stabby

He’s 60. I would guess that his experience is not Halo, it’s actually shooting animals.

That game doesn’t count does it?

Games of Bingo and Scrabble can get intense.

11 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:29:54am

This is the first comment to show up on TGDN about the Phoenix shooting:

12 erik_t  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:31:13am

re: #2 makeitstop

My wife is in Mesa on business. I immediately went into freakout mode, because the woman being loaded into an ambulance really looked like her.

I just got off the phone with her. She’s okay, thank God. I’m still a little freaked because the map doesn’t show much distance between the shooting scene and Mesa.

Five or ten miles, FYI.

13 stabby  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:31:32am

re: #11 Vicious Babushka

I don’t get it.

14 Kragar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:31:34am

Gun advocate tells Senate: AR-15 is the ‘weapon of choice’ for women with crying babies

A senior fellow from the conservative Independent Women’s Forum (IWF) on Wednesday told a Senate committee that assault weapons should not be outlawed because they were the “weapon of choice” for young mothers who need a “scary-looking gun.”

At Senate Judiciary Hearing on gun violence, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) asked IWF’s Gayle Trotter, who also writes for The Daily Caller, if it would “disproportionately burden women” to ban assault rifles like the Bushmaster AR-15 used to slaughter 20 children in Newtown, Connecticut.

“Young women are speaking out as to why AR-15 weapons are their weapon of choice,” Trotter explained. “The guns are accurate. They have good handling. They’re light. They’re easy for women to hold.”

15 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:31:43am

re: #11 Vicious Babushka

The Benghazi-gate mafia cannot be stopped. /

16 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:32:05am

re: #15 Bulworth

The Benghazi-gate mafia cannot be stopped. /

It’s a freaking cult.

17 makeitstop  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:32:32am

re: #12 erik_t

Five or ten miles, FYI.

Thanks. Still nervous. She comes home tomorrow, which can’t come soon enough now.

18 erik_t  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:32:55am

re: #14 Kragar

Gun advocate tells Senate: AR-15 is the ‘weapon of choice’ for women with crying babies

What the fuck? Are they saying you’re supposed to wave guns at your kids to scare them straight?

What in the actual fuck? In the actual fucking United States goddamned Senate?

19 makeitstop  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:34:01am
20 Kragar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:34:16am

Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!

‘Gomer Pyle’ actor marries male partner of 38 years

Jim Nabors, the 84-year-old actor who played the character Gomer Pyle on “The Andy Griffith Show” and on his own “Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C.” show, married his male partner, Stan Cadwallader, 64, in a ceremony in Seattle, Washington.

21 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:34:42am

re: #13 stabby

It’s very simple. The terrorists in Benghazi were just like union workers whot got guns from Fast&Furious and want to take away all the gunz. //

22 Awea  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:35:08am

re: #13 stabby

I don’t get it.

I am guessing she is making a reference to Clinton’s “It doesn’t matter.” response during the Benghazi-palloosa.

23 darthstar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:35:49am

re: #20 Kragar

84? He was just 82 this morning. Marriage makes you age fast!

24 Awea  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:36:05am

re: #20 Kragar

Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!

‘Gomer Pyle’ actor marries male partner of 38 years

Wonder how Indiana is going to take that news. He was their famous son.

25 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:36:11am

re: #20 Kragar

Redefining marriage! What about the children!? Destroying marriage! //

26 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:37:21am

re: #22 Awea

It’s just like when Hilary said the Benghazi shootings were just like any old workplace shooting, except she didn’t say that. /

27 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:37:34am

re: #20 Kragar

Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!

‘Gomer Pyle’ actor marries male partner of 38 years

I suspect that Senator Gohmert will lead the pile-on…

28 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:37:34am

re: #14 Kragar

A pistol is easy to hold, relatively light, and with a moderate amount of training it is quite accurate at short range which tends to be the distance one faces an attacker at. Rifles of any size can be unwieldy at close range.

29 darthstar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:37:34am
30 TedStriker  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:38:06am

re: #27 Sol Berdinowitz

I suspect that Senator Gohmert will lead the pile-on…

*groan*

31 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:38:26am

re: #29 darthstar

It’s all a matter of getting as many buzzwords into one sound byte as possible.

32 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:38:31am

re: #20 Kragar

I blame PBO for letting teh gay in the military. /

33 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:39:19am

Meanwhile Buck is melting down faster than the Arctic ice cap.

34 Joanne  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:39:35am

re: #13 stabby

They have a pathological obsession with Benghazi. Twelve hours of Hilary speaking about it wasn’t sufficient. She Lied!!11!! And Sandy Hook was a false flag!!11!

These people are seriously. Fucked. Up.

35 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:39:50am

re: #32 Bulworth

I blame PBO for letting teh gay in the military. /

I remember as a kid learning the words to the Marine Corps Hymn by singing along with him on TV…

36 TedStriker  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:40:02am

re: #33 Vicious Babushka

Meanwhile Buck is melting down faster than the Arctic ice cap.

O RLY?

37 Awea  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:40:45am

LoL…Grey Dawn… Raaaascles!

38 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:42:39am

re: #33 Vicious Babushka

Meanwhile Buck is melting down faster than the Arctic ice cap.

He’s 9 downdings away from the -13,000 plateau.

Karma: -12,991

39 Joanne  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:42:48am

re: #33 Vicious Babushka

Meanwhile Buck is melting down faster than the Arctic ice cap.

Again? This is a daily thing now.

40 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:43:08am

re: #38 NJDhockeyfan

I kind of have an urge just to turn into a gigantic petty asshole and see how fast I can burn my karma, but it feels like we’ve already had too many people do that.

41 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:45:37am

re: #40 Obdicut

I kind of have an urge just to turn into a gigantic petty asshole and see how fast I can burn my karma, but it feels like we’ve already had too many people do that.

That would be a monumental task given you have close to 166,000 karma points.

42 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:46:32am

Meanwhile, the far right Media Research Center is launching a major PR offensive against MSNBC for that edited “heckling” video. This is where all the right wing blogs get their marching orders from.

Just received this email:

NBC DEMONIZES GUN OWNERS WITH PHONY ‘HECKLER’ STORY

BOZELL BLASTS “PATTERN OF DECEPTION” AT NBC NEWS

ALEXANDRIA, VA – On Monday’s edition of “Martin Bashir,” MSNBC ran footage of the testimony of Neil Heslin, the father of a Sandy Hook victim, in which it appears he is heckled by gun rights activists. MSNBC’s accompanying graphics box read “Mocked and Loaded. Sandy Hook Victim’s Father Heckled by Gun Rights Advocates.”

In reality, Heslin was not heckled. He posed a challenge to the audience, and the audience responded. The MSNBC version deliberately cut out Heslin’s challenge to make it appear as though he was interrupted by heckling gun advocates.

This is the third time in the past year in which NBC News has been caught dishonestly editing footage in order to push their liberal political agenda. Last March they edited the Trayvon Martin 911 call to make George Zimmerman appear racist. A few months later, Andrea Mitchell presented a dishonestly edited clip of Mitt Romney apparently being wowed by a sandwich ordering machine.

Media Research Center President Brent Bozell reacts:

“There is now a clear pattern of deception at NBC News. It is the most egregious violation of journalistic ethics. First they edited the Trayvon Martin 911 call to fabricate a racist motive. Then Andrea Mitchell tried to invent a fake “supermarket scanner moment” for Mitt Romney. Now MSNBC is deceptively editing footage of Sandy Hook testimony in order to smear gun rights advocates.

“This is not how a legitimate, professional news organization operates. MSNBC’s relentless anti-gun advocacy is bad enough, but this is downright dishonest. Time and time again NBC News has demonstrated why the American people can’t trust a single thing they say.”

43 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:46:51am

re: #11 Vicious Babushka

This is the first comment to show up on TGDN about the Phoenix shooting:

Frank says:

Stupidity is the basic building block of the universe.

44 b_sharp  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:47:20am

re: #41 NJDhockeyfan

That would be a monumental task given you have close to 166,000 karma points.

All bought and paid for.

45 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:47:50am

Where do these sick fuckers come from?

Accused ‘Sextortionist’ May Have Coerced More Than 350 Women to Strip

An online “sextortionist” coerced as many as 350 women — some of them minors — into stripping for him, and then used the nude photos to blackmail them into continuing to strip, federal authorities said.

Karen “Gary” Kazaryan, 27, of Glendale, Calif., is charged with 15 counts of computer intrusion and 15 counts of aggravated identity theft, according to a federal indictment.

Authorities found approximately 3,000 pictures of nude or semi-nude women on Kazaryan’s computer, which appeared to have been stolen from the personal accounts of women or taken by Kazaryan on Skype, an FBI release said.

Special agents arrested Kazaryan on Tuesday. He pleaded not guilty at his arraignment.

According to the indictment, Kazaryan would hack into the various accounts of his victims, including Facebook, email and Skype, and change the passwords.

He would then use his unauthorized access to “obtain information belonging to the victims from the accounts, including pictures, communications, and information about other accounts,” the indictment said.

Armed with personal information, authorities allege Kazaryan would then pose as a female friend online and “fraudulently persuade, or extort, those individuals into removing their clothes.”

When the victims discovered they had been duped and confronted Kazaryan, he would blackmail them with the nude photos he had already obtained in order to coerce more stripping, according to the indictment.

In some cases, he allegedly posted nude photos of his victims on their Facebook pages when they did not comply, according to an FBI news release.

Authorities said Kazaryan may have vicitmized as many as 350 women, some of whom were underage at the time.

If convicted on all counts, Kazaryan faces a maximum of 105 years in federal prison.

46 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:48:40am

MORE TGDN SCAMMING

47 Dr Lizardo's Ghost Will See You In Hell  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:49:48am

re: #46 Vicious Babushka

MORE TGDN SCAMMING

Damn! I really need to get myself a Twitter account so I can start making some Benjamins!

48 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:50:25am

re: #46 Vicious Babushka

MORE TGDN SCAMMING

Help me get to CPAC! No amount is too small. Unemployed0 can’t do it without you! DONATE—>

CPAC has no use for the 47% percent…

49 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:51:05am

re: #42 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, the far right Media Research Center is launching a major PR offensive against MSNBC for that edited “heckling” video. This is where all the right wing blogs get their marching orders from.

Just received this email:

There’s an easier way to avoid being ‘demonized’ as an asshole: don’t be an asshole.

50 BongCrodny  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:51:05am

re: #33 Vicious Babushka

Meanwhile Buck is melting down faster than the Arctic ice cap.

We’re all just so unreasonable here.

51 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:51:10am

re: #44 b_sharp

All bought and paid for.

Best dollar and seventy cents I ever spent.

52 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:52:41am
CNN reported that at least two people were shot and the suspect is on the loose.

Police officers and a police dog were seen sifting through the office building’s parking lot.

A separate scene near 16th Street and Glenrosa Avenue is also active. Air15 video also showed several police units parked along the street in that area.

Police have confirmed very little details at this time.

53 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:54:19am

re: #46 Vicious Babushka

Grifters gonna grift

54 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:55:52am

re: #53 Bulworth

Grifters gonna grift

Good luck getting money from people like this:

55 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:56:56am

Offered without comment.

56 Awea  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:57:04am
57 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:57:34am

re: #54 Vicious Babushka

It’s true. I vote like everyday. Even though there are no elections. I just keep voting. I’m happy to hear I’m helping to ‘overwhelm’ the tgdn “workers”.

58 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:57:57am

Damn, I hope they are just injured.

ABC15’s Christopher Sign talked to a woman at the scene who said she saw two bodies at the mezzanine level of the complex.

ABC15 has not yet independently confirmed this information.

59 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 10:58:43am

Mentally ill people get together in “gangs”?

60 Mattand  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:00:05am

re: #58 NJDhockeyfan

Damn, I hope they are just injured.

On the day of Sandy Hook, I was on my way out the door just as it was breaking. Literally no details at the time. I thought to myself, “Probably just some nut who got too near the building.”

Needless to say, I couldn’t have been more wrong. Hopefully, though, you’re right on this one.

61 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:00:42am

re: #55 Vicious Babushka

Well, there are all the bloody and scary signs with fetuses on them, not to mention the dolls with the scissors sticking out of them. And not to mention the mobs that lay seige to clinics that provide abortions, and not to mention that the targeted killings of abortion providers.

62 jaunte  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:00:46am

re: #59 Vicious Babushka

Gusto?

63 Mattand  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:01:29am

re: #62 jaunte

Gusto?

Moxie! With a smidgen of pizzaz!

64 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:01:41am

re: #33 Vicious Babushka

Meanwhile Buck is melting down faster than the Arctic ice cap.

The dude has a -13,018 Karma. Impressive.

65 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:01:48am

re: #54 Vicious Babushka

Good luck getting money from people like this:

Yunno, I am not going to deny that there were people who voted for Obama to get “free stuff from the government”, but I think that most of those who voted for him did so because they wanted a government that was able to do its job, and willing to contibute to the cost of maintiaining it.

And there are just too darned many things we cannot expect the Free Market to do better and more efficiently. I will not bother listing them here.

Save to add that the Free Market is all about efficiently making money for the people who invest in it. Only a regulated Free Market is going to provide benefits for anyone else.

66 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:02:42am

re: #64 Dr. Matt

The dude has a -13,018 Karma. Impressive.

When he gets to -14,000, sell!

67 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:02:49am

re: #55 Vicious Babushka

I’m sure the writer also feels bad that the murdered children from Newtown can’t “be trotted out” for hearings too. /

68 Joanne  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:04:03am

re: #56 Awea

…and in other Breaking News.

Hedgehog in Critical Condition

Image: RonJeremyhandout-207x300.jpg

Good luck on his health! Godspeed!

The 59-year-old star has appeared in over 2,000 X-rated films and is one of the most recognizable porn stars in the world.

Uhm…ewwwwwww.

69 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:04:11am

re: #45 NJDhockeyfan

Did you know you’re not supposed to copy and paste an entire article?

70 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:04:28am

re: #59 Vicious Babushka

The writer probably means the gangs of shooters, like the individuals who murdered masses of college kids and children at Va Tech and Newtown. Those kind of individual gangs. //

71 Mattand  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:04:53am

re: #64 Dr. Matt

The dude has a -13,018 Karma. Impressive.

What’s Buck’s deal, anyway? Someone makes a criticism of Israel and that person is automatically an anti-Semite? I just don’t get it.

I know he was having a meltdown over ACA/Obamacare. I’m not really sure why he posts here. I’m all for opposing view points, but as others have pointed out, he’s one breakfast gin away from going full Pam Gellar.

72 Interesting Times  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:05:24am

re: #61 Bulworth

Well, there are all the bloody and scary signs with fetuses on them.

Someone here (Shiplord Kirel, I think) said the photos of fetuses on those signs often aren’t from abortions, but autopsies of actual infants who died of other causes (accidents, etc). I wish I could find a citation for this (not that the RWNJs would listen, but it could go a long way toward showing the sane-but-ambivalent public how much the forced birthers are willing to lie)

73 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:05:47am

re: #71 Mattand

What’s Buck’s deal, anyway? Someone makes a criticism of Israel and that person is automatically an anti-Semite? I just don’t get it.

I know he was having a meltdown over ACA/Obamacare. I’m not really sure why he posts here. I’m all for opposing view points, but as others have pointed out, he’s one breakfast gin away from going full Pam Gellar.

Been there, done that. He has a thread removed this morning that linked to a hate site.

75 Randall Gross  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:06:53am

Arizona: nation’s leader in gun rights and firearm related deaths per capita:
[Link: www.azdhs.gov…]

76 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:10:18am
77 Gus  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:10:42am

“While many are in business for themselves, they express hostile attitudes toward free enterprise in polls,” they wrote. “They are disproportionately low-income and disproportionately likely to receive some form of government support. More than half of Hispanic births are out of wedlock. Take away the Spanish surname and Latino voters look a great deal like many other Democratic constituencies.”

78 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:11:03am

re: #68 Joanne

I was picking up my in-laws from LAX and while waiting for their luggage we saw Ron Jeremy looking for his. My wife asked “Is that Ron Jeremy?” I answered “I don’t know, would have to see his penis”.

Seriously though, hope he gets better. I’ve seen a lot of interviews with him and a lot of b-flicks where he pokes fun at himself. He’s overall a low key guy and seems to be a pretty cool dude.

79 Kragar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:11:48am

Had to completely uninstall my browser, scrub the registry and file system and reinstall. Pain in the ass getting all my settings back to normal.

80 Kragar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:12:32am

re: #56 Awea

…and in other Breaking News.

Hedgehog in Critical Condition

Image: RonJeremyhandout-207x300.jpg

NOT THE HEDGEHOG!!!

81 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:12:53am
82 Joanne  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:12:53am

re: #77 Gus

How’s that outreach going? I’m seeing a few new words to add to their Never Should These Words Pass Your Lips list.

83 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:12:56am

re: #72 Interesting Times

that wouldn’t surprise me because it would seem that it’d be darn near impossible to get a “picture” of an actual abortion.

84 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:13:21am

Oh shit!

90s actor Jason London accused of defecating in Scottsdale squad car

SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. -
He was one of the stars of the movie “Dazed and Confused,” and according to police, it’s also the best way to describe his night in Scottsdale.

That mug shot is pretty embarrassing — but it wasn’t the most embarrassing thing that occurred during a chaotic night in Scottsdale for the actor.

…According to the police report, London repeatedly told officers he was a rich and famous actor. Officers say the antics continued in the squad car.

“At one point he defecated in the back of the car and that was on the way from the bar where he was arrested to the jail.”

Around 3 p.m. Tuesday London took to Twitter saying: “I would never say or do the crap they are reporting… Some guy thought I was hitting on his girl and had me jumped. …I hate Arizona… wait till you see the real pictures. I have a right orbital fracture and sinus fracture. The truth will win.”

“Scottsdale’s a nice place to come and visit but if you get overly intoxicated then your experience is probably not going to be that good,” said Clark.

The backseats of squad cars are plastic and are hosed off after cases such as that.

85 gwangung  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:14:07am

re: #77 Gus

WTF????

And they got rid of all the white nationalists, huh?

86 Joanne  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:14:37am

re: #78 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I was picking up my in-laws from LAX and while waiting for their luggage we saw Ron Jeremy looking for his. My wife asked “Is that Ron Jeremy?” I answered “I don’t know, would have to see his penis”.

ROTFLMFAO! Still an Ewwwww. I am of the age when I saw his early videos. They got Ewwwww’d back then, too! :-)

Seriously though, hope he gets better. I’ve seen a lot of interviews with him and a lot of b-flicks where he pokes fun at himself. He’s overall a low key guy and seems to be a pretty cool dude.

Agreed.

87 webevintage  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:15:15am

re: #14 Kragar

According to Gayle Trotter wimmins are all weak young mothers who need AR-15s to protect their screaming children and elderly incapacitated relatives from those 3-5 bad dudes trying to breaking down the door and harm them in unspeakable ways.
And she is passionate about it.

It must suck to live with that much fear…

88 Kragar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:15:20am

For those of you who said I should have given the Sheriff a break…

Drunk woman says she fired gun because anti-gun control sheriff said it was OK

An intoxicated woman in Milwaukee says that she fired a weapon during an argument with her niece because she had heard Wisconsin Sheriff David A. Clarke’s radio ad saying that citizens should get “in the game” and arm themselves instead of calling 911.

A criminal complaint obtained by the Journal Sentinel indicated that 36-year-old Makisha Cooper had told police that she was following Clarke’s advice that “simply calling 911 and waiting is no longer your best option.”

Cooper said “that she knows her rights regarding having a firearm because she heard Sheriff Clarke on the radio stating that she could own a gun to protect herself,” according to the complaint.

Police determined that a .40-caliber Smith & Wesson handgun that she presented to them had recently been fired. Cooper explained that she had fired the gun once in connection to a fight she was having with her niece.

89 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:15:25am
90 Gus  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:15:39am

re: #82 Joanne

How’s that outreach going? I’m seeing a few new words to add to their Never Should These Words Pass Your Lips list.

Amazing isn’t it?

91 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:16:23am

re: #77 Gus

While many are in business for themselves, they express hostile attitudes toward free enterprise in polls,” they wrote. “They are disproportionately low-income and disproportionately likely to receive some form of government support. More than half of Hispanic births are out of wedlock. Take away the Spanish surname and Latino voters look a great deal like many other Democratic constituencies.”

Go, GOP. Instead of even trying to appeal to notions like “family values” and the importance of hard work and education, things that are important to the Hispanic community, the GOP is just dumping them in with the rest of the useless 47% whose only motivation for living and voting is Free Stuff from the Government.

92 Joanne  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:17:39am

re: #90 Gus

Amazing isn’t it?

That list of shit you’re not supposed to say is getting as long as the NRA enemy list that was posted a couple of days ago.

93 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:18:05am

re: #77 Gus

Wow, impressively racist.

94 Joanne  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:18:05am

re: #91 Sol Berdinowitz

Please. Let them dig.

95 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:18:15am

re: #2 makeitstop

My wife is in Mesa on business. I immediately went into freakout mode, because the woman being loaded into an ambulance really looked like her.

I just got off the phone with her. She’s okay, thank God. I’m still a little freaked because the map doesn’t show much distance between the shooting scene and Mesa.

I’m very glad she’s okay.

96 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:19:27am

re: #86 Joanne

the reason he’s one of the most famous and highest paid porn stars of all time is the simple fact that he gave ugly guys hope (and he had a big penis). He even says it himself.

97 Joanne  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:19:33am

re: #95 Romantic Heretic

I’m very glad she’s okay.

Ditto that. I just sent an email to my old boss who has an office near there. Alas, the entirety of Phoenix and Mesa look exactly the same…brown stucco all around. It looked like his POB, but…who knows.

98 iossarian  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:19:55am

It’s hilarious to see the GOP out-and-out admit that the reason they oppose a path to citizenship for Latinos is because they think they’ll vote Democratic.

Nothing about the constitution, existing case law, moral arguments or anything like that. Just straightforward realpolitik.

Talk about “values voters”.

99 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:20:51am

re: #10 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

Games of Bingo and Scrabble can get intense.

Bridge players can get very, very serious about the game.

100 gwangung  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:21:48am

re: #91 Sol Berdinowitz

While many are in business for themselves, they express hostile attitudes toward free enterprise in polls,” they wrote. “They are disproportionately low-income and disproportionately likely to receive some form of government support. More than half of Hispanic births are out of wedlock. Take away the Spanish surname and Latino voters look a great deal like many other Democratic constituencies.”

Go, GOP. Instead of even trying to appeal to notions like “family values” and the importance of hard work and education, things that are important to the Hispanic community, the GOP is just dumping them in with the rest of the useless 47% whose only motivation for living and voting is Free Stuff from the Government.

Hmmm….probably doesn’t occur to them that a lot of Latinos, particularly those in the business creation class, have an aversion to crony capitalism…something they may have had great experience with before they emigrated. And that the Review is confusing crony capitalism with free enterpise, because that’s what Republicans have allowed the US to devolve to….

101 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:21:49am

Three Critically Wounded in Shooting at Phoenix Office Complex - U.S. News

Three people were critically wounded Wednesday, one of them with life-threatening injuries, when a gunman opened fire at a Phoenix office complex, fire officials told NBC News.

Authorities said the gunman was not in custody. NBC station KPNX of Phoenix reported on air that authorities were believed to be seeking a man who fled in a white vehicle.

Three other people sustained minor injuries in the incident at a complex near 16th Street and Glendale Avenue, Phoenix fire Capt. Scott McDonald said.

102 makeitstop  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:22:32am

re: #95 Romantic Heretic

I’m very glad she’s okay.

Thank you, RH. I was just happy she answered her phone. I don’t know where I’d be without her.

103 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:24:39am

re: #100 gwangung

Hmmm….probably doesn’t occur to them that a lot of Latinos, particularly those in the business creation class, have an aversion to crony capitalism…something they may have had great experience with before they emigrated. And that the Review is confusing crony capitalism with free enterpise, because that’s what Republicans have allowed the US to devolve to….

And the GOP is all but admitting that it is too ideologically hidebound and bigoted to begin to reach out to Latino voters, they just cannot bring themselves to do it for fear of betraying their “principles”.

And I suspect that a number of Latino businessmen have in fact had experiences with white businessmen, many of whom might well have tried to cloak their bigotry in some sort of conservative principles.

104 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:24:43am
105 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:26:37am

re: #18 erik_t

She added: “And most importantly, their appearance. An assault weapon in the hands of a young woman defending her babies in her home becomes a defense weapon, and the peace of mind that a woman has as she’s facing three, four, five violent attackers, intruders in her home, with her children screaming in the background, the peace of mind that she has knowing that she has a scary-looking gun gives her more courage when she’s fighting hardened, violent criminals.”

So many delusions there, I barely know where to start.

106 Interesting Times  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:27:28am

re: #104 Vicious Babushka

Guess 1: Vengeful, disgruntled ex-employee who used to work at the complex

Guess 2: Vengeful, disgruntled ex whose former partner worked at the complex

107 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:29:10am

re: #105 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

So many delusions there, I barely know where to start.

They make it sound like she’s taking care of her children with the AR-15 strapped to her back. Because kids aren’t known for grabbing things that look like guns and trying to shoot them.

108 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:29:43am
Frank says:

Another day, another sausage…

109 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:29:44am

re: #106 Interesting Times

Guess 1: Vengeful, disgruntled ex-employee who used to work at the complex

Guess 2: Vengeful, disgruntled ex whose former partner worked at the complex

Guess 3: Vengeful, disgruntled gun nut who just wanted to shoot somebody and that place was convenient enough

110 makeitstop  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:29:58am

re: #106 Interesting Times

Guess 1: Vengeful, disgruntled ex-employee who used to work at the complex

Guess 2: Vengeful, disgruntled ex whose former partner worked at the complex

Possibility 3: Disgruntled client or ex-spouse of client. The shooting, from the look of it, was at a law firm.

111 Joanne  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:30:03am

re: #102 makeitstop

Thank you, RH. I was just happy she answered her phone. I don’t know where I’d be without her.

That’s very sweet.

112 Kragar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:31:03am

Senator Catches NRA Head In Epic Flip Flop

Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-VT) caught National Rifle Association Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre in a significant contradiction during Wednesday’s hearing on preventing gun violence. Since the shooting in Newtown, Connecticut the nation’s most influential gun lobby has opposed the growing bipartisan push for universal background checks, arguing that such a policy would infringe on the Second Amendment rights of law abiding Americans. But as Leahy pointed out, the group has supported the reasonable background checks in the past.

113 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:31:34am

Gotta run, have a great day all!

114 Skip Intro  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:31:50am

re: #74 Lidane

Image: woodywtf.jpg

These people really live amazing fantasy lives. A young woman with her three babies in her arms keeping the bad guys at bay while firing her AR-15. Usually you just see things like that in the movies, but I guess this is real life to her.

115 erik_t  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:32:26am

re: #105 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

So many delusions there, I barely know where to start.

More blind terror than a free-falling nursery staffed by velociraptors.

116 makeitstop  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:32:39am

re: #111 Joanne

That’s very sweet.

When my wife told me she was going to Arizona, the first thought that entered my mind was the possibility of her being in harm’s way by someone with a gun.

It’s a sad thing that the first association anyone would make with Arizona is ‘someone you love could be shot there.’

117 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:32:55am

re: #114 Skip Intro

These people really live amazing fantasy lives. A young woman with her three babies in her arms keeping the bad guys at bay while firing her AR-15. Usually you just see things like that in the movies, but I guess this is real life to her.

This is a recurring fantasy on TGDN. Damn these people are just fucking demented.

118 Lidane  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:33:07am

re: #77 Gus

Gotta love that GOP Latino outreach.

119 erik_t  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:34:00am

re: #114 Skip Intro

These people really live amazing fantasy lives. A young woman with her three babies in her arms keeping the bad guys at bay while firing her AR-15. Usually you just see things like that in the movies, but I guess this is real life to her.

I would bet ten American dollars that this has, literally, never happened.

120 makeitstop  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:34:45am

re: #117 Vicious Babushka

This is a recurring fantasy on TGDN. Damn these people are just fucking demented.

Hey, it’s come up here, too. I once asked what good a Bushmaster could do, and got the answer ‘defending yourself from a marauding gang.’

I’ve lived in the NYC area for better than 30 years, and I’m yet to see my first marauding gang.
/

121 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:36:05am

re: #120 makeitstop

Rifles are for shooting things at medium to long distances. Using one for home defense is basically irresponsible, since every missed shot will penetrate and go god-knows-where.

122 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:36:07am

The fact that these gunnuts live in a perpetual fantasy world about using their weapons to ward off gangs of evil doers, the government, etc pretty much proves that they are mentally unstable and have no business owning weapons.

123 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:36:34am

re: #77 Gus

Even the alleged ‘intellectuals’ of the right live in a fucking fantasy land, don’t they?

124 Kragar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:36:41am

re: #121 Obdicut

Rifles are for shooting things at medium to long distances. Using one for home defense is basically irresponsible, since every missed shot will penetrate and go god-knows-where.

Shotgun with birdshot is a much more effective choice.

125 iossarian  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:37:15am

re: #119 erik_t

I would bet ten American dollars that this has, literally, never happened.

I would also raise you the same amount, that if a Bushmaster-carrying scheme was piloted among young mothers and their toddler offspring, accidental deaths and maimings would outnumber lives saved by a factor of hundreds, if not thousands.

126 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:38:04am

re: #119 erik_t

I would bet ten American dollars that this has, literally, never happened.

Not only that, home invasions that don’t involve the SWAT team or the drug dealers you ripped off are about as half as likely to happen to you than winning the lottery twice.

127 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:38:06am

re: #123 Romantic Heretic

Even the alleged ‘intellectuals’ of the right live in a fucking fantasy land, don’t they?

The smartest member of the insane asylum, is still, you know, a member of an insane asylum.

128 Kragar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:38:54am

The AR-15 designed for young mothers.
But if a young women wants to carry an M-16 into combat, she’s destroying the US military and hates America.

129 Gus  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:39:04am

bbl

130 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:39:21am

re: #77 Gus

I just read that editorial myself at National Review. Freaking unbelievable. The bigotry is right in your face.

131 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:39:33am

re: #124 Kragar

Shotgun with birdshot is a much more effective choice.

An even better choice:

132 erik_t  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:39:52am

re: #126 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

Not only that, home invasions that don’t involve the SWAT team or the drug dealers you ripped off are about as half as likely to happen to you than winning the lottery twice.

Not a couple guys out to score some quick loot that panic and run when they realize there’s someone home.

Five hardened violent criminals who are after you, specifically. Exclusively to lengthen their impressive rap sheets, presumably.

I’m sure this sort of thing happens all the fucking time.

133 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:40:20am

re: #128 Kragar

The AR-15 designed for young mothers.
But if a young women wants to carry an M-16 into combat, she’s destroying the US military and hates America.

She should be cooking and taking care of babies while carrying it./ (notice the inherent misogyny in their bullshit?)

134 steve_davis  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:41:02am

re: #117 Vicious Babushka

This is a recurring fantasy on TGDN. Damn these people are just fucking demented.

To be fair, you mostly don’t even see that in the movies because it’s so implausible that writers and directors figure no one is going to believe that could possibly happen. You know what’s even better when fending off assailants than an AR-15? A sawed-off 12-gauge. Relatively bearable kick, enormous spread pattern. 3 people attack you, you don’t even have to aim. Just kind of point along the correct axis and pull the trigger. If they’re close, it will be closed caskets for all bad guys.

135 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:41:49am

re: #133 Ghost of Tom Joad

Image: ShootingKitty1.jpg

136 Lidane  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:42:06am

re: #124 Kragar

Shotgun with birdshot is a much more effective choice.

I was about to say this.

Growing up, every relative of mine that wasn’t in law enforcement had a shotgun with birdshot at ready access. The idea of having a rifle for home protection is asinine.

137 Interesting Times  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:43:21am

re: #114 Skip Intro

These people really live amazing fantasy lives. A young woman with her three babies in her arms keeping the bad guys at bay while firing her AR-15. Usually you just see things like that in the movies, but I guess this is real life to her.

You know what’s truly ironic? The closest thing to that scenario I can recall is this story:

Along with her 18-year-old brother Aijaz, she overpowered the terrorists who had barged into their house, snatched an AK 47 from one of them and fired at him, killing him on the spot. Her parents Noor Hussain and Rashida were injured in the incident.

See if you can spot the “oh wait…” twist.

138 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:43:26am

re: #124 Kragar

Shotgun with birdshot is a much more effective choice.

When our house was broken into 2 years ago, the police officer who came over to take the burglary report gave us advice on avoiding another break-in. He recommended stuff like an alarm system, outdoor flood lamps, keeping all first-floor & basement windows locked & bolted, a dog.

Burglars will generally go for the low hanging fruit.

Of course Zedushka asked the officer if we should get a gun. He shrugged and said that in his experience it was less helpful than the other things he recommended.

139 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:44:11am

re: #134 steve_davis

You don’t even need to connect. The concussive blast alone from 5-10 feet away is enough to stagger somebody.

140 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:44:23am

re: #132 erik_t

Not a couple guys out to score some quick loot that panic and run when they realize there’s someone home.

Five hardened violent criminals who are after you, specifically. Exclusively to lengthen their impressive rap sheets, presumably.

I’m sure this sort of thing happens all the fucking time.

That might happen more frequently to someone who is a drug dealer or a fence.

141 erik_t  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:45:11am

re: #139 Ghost of Tom Joad

You don’t even need to connect. The concussive blast alone from 5-10 feet away is enough to stagger somebody.

Frankly, loudly cocking the weapon is enough to stagger most somebodies smartly in the other direction.

142 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:46:35am

re: #138 Vicious Babushka

We had a string of robberies in my area a few years ago. We were never touched. 2 100-pound dogs. Only reason I can think we weren’t hit.

Most burglars etc. aren’t looking to kill etc. They’re just looking to quickly steal some expensive shit (electronics/jewelry) and get out.

143 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:46:56am

re: #141 erik_t

Frankly, loudly cocking the weapon is enough to stagger most somebodies smartly in the other direction.

You could have that for a ringtone! (maybe that would be a bad idea).

144 Skip Intro  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:49:27am

re: #122 Dr. Matt

The fact that these gunnuts live in a perpetual fantasy world about using their weapons to ward off gangs of evil doers, the government, etc pretty much proves that they are mentally unstable and have no business owning weapons.

A letter in today’s paper fantasized about how the Tutsis, hiding in tents, could have avoided being massacred if only they had a 2nd Amendment and that’s why he’ll never give up his guns, never, because you never know when the Hutus are going to attack!

The fact that this was even published makes me wonder about the sanity of the paper’s editors.

145 erik_t  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:49:42am

re: #142 Ghost of Tom Joad

Most burglars etc. aren’t looking to kill etc. They’re just looking to quickly steal some expensive shit (electronics/jewelry) and get out.

My Bachelor Security System of strewn pop bottles, pizza boxes and laundry has not yet failed to deter this sort of burglar.

146 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:50:18am

re: #143 Vicious Babushka

You could have that for a ringtone! (maybe that would be a bad idea).

It would be, in the NRA’s ideal world. That noise alone would lead to a massive gun-battle. Granny would whip the uzi out of her purse, Grandpa would be lobbing mortars into the fray, little Timmy would be tossing grenades, and Jim-Bob would be spray-‘n-praying from behind his truck with his hunting rifle.

And then a Mom would whip out her AR-15 from the baby-stroller and start mowing people down until the children stopped crying.

All because of your damn ringtone.

147 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:50:21am

re: #145 erik_t

My Bachelor Security System of strewn pop bottles, pizza boxes and laundry has not yet failed to deter this sort of burglar.

The security system that says “Dude, it’s not worth 10-20.”

148 Awea  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:51:16am

re: #110 makeitstop

Possibility 3: Disgruntled client or ex-spouse of client. The shooting, from the look of it, was at a law firm.

C’mon, we all know it was a false flag, right…right.

149 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:51:49am

re: #144 Skip Intro

A letter in today’s paper fantasized about how the Tutsis, hiding in tents, could have avoided being massacred if only they had a 2nd Amendment and that’s why he’ll never give up his guns, never, because you never know when the Hutus are going to attack!

The fact that this was even published makes me wonder about the sanity of the paper’s editors.

This is an ongoing meme, and they have already taken it to the most ridiculous extremes, “If only the _________ had been armed they never would have been __________ed by the ____________s”

150 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:52:36am

re: #144 Skip Intro

A letter in today’s paper fantasized about how the Tutsis, hiding in tents, could have avoided being massacred if only they had a 2nd Amendment and that’s why he’ll never give up his guns, never, because you never know when the Hutus are going to attack!

The fact that this was even published makes me wonder about the sanity of the paper’s editors.

Yeah, you never know when you might be attacked by an armed group of lunatics whipped into a frenzy by radio programs urging them to eliminate the enemy within.

151 Lidane  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:52:47am

re: #110 makeitstop

Possibility 3: Disgruntled client or ex-spouse of client. The shooting, from the look of it, was at a law firm.

If the shooting was at a law firm, what are the odds that a bitter divorce or child custody battle is at the heart of this?

152 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:53:11am

re: #148 Awea

Benghazi and Arizona…desert! We have a link. TO TWITTER, MY MINIONS!//

153 makeitstop  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:54:26am

re: #151 Lidane

If the shooting was at a law firm, what are the odds that a bitter divorce or child custody battle is at the heart of this?

That’s a real possibility. Or a judgement didn’t go someone’s way.

All speculation at this point, of course.

154 webevintage  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:54:49am

Where does Gayle Trotter live that she fears marauding gangs of men breaking into her house seeking to harm her, her screaming the background children and elderly relatives?

Seriously, this chick has gotten under my skin with her idiocy.

155 allegro  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:55:25am

re: #151 Lidane

If the shooting was at a law firm, what are the odds that a bitter divorce or child custody battle is at the heart of this?

That was my first thought as well. If that’s the case, how long before the MRA brigades start to march?

156 Kragar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:55:28am

Jim Daly Cites Elie Wiesel Holocaust Quote to Protest Gays in the Boy Scouts


Neutrality is often an attractive option, especially when the goal is to not offend. But in this case, I’m reminded of what the great humanitarian and political activist Elie Wiesel once wrote about trying to remain neutral when it comes to moral affairs:

We must take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. Sometimes we must interfere.

At stake in this debate is not just the golden brand of the Boy Scouts but most importantly the character and safety of the boys involved.

That’s right: Daly is using a Wiesel quote to compare the Boy Scouts becoming neutral on gay members to countries that were neutral during the Holocaust.

157 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:56:28am

re: #152 Ghost of Tom Joad

Benghazi and Arizona…desert! We have a link. TO TWITTER, MY MINIONS!//

Now taking donations to fund Twitter liberty tweets. #bux #dolladollabill #hashtag9000 #iamfuckingcrazy #derp #herp #aminoacids #n0bama #m0rgunz #bangyerdead #jobcreators

158 Skeetghazi  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:56:33am

Wow, what about the survivalist who kidnapped the kid, killed the bus driver & is now holed up in his underground bunker?

WTF

159 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:57:20am

re: #110 makeitstop

Possibility 3: Disgruntled client or ex-spouse of client. The shooting, from the look of it, was at a law firm.

Well, the various RWNJ pundits have been telling him via the media that the revolution is coming. And supposedly when that happens aren’t the lawyers to be the first against the wall?
///

160 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:57:22am

Good grief.

161 dragonath  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:58:10am

I’m getting random “Assault guns weren’t used at Newtown” pictures in completely unrelated google image search results… auuuuughhh.

I can usually ignore this kind of derp when it’s isolated to twitter, but even the most innocuous terms turn up some kind of hate speech or fringe conspiracy theory.

162 makeitstop  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:58:15am

re: #160 Charles Johnson

Good grief.

Stretch Of The Year, right there.

163 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:58:46am

re: #119 erik_t

I would bet ten American dollars that this has, literally, never happened.

But if the babies have any gripping strength they can hold three extra clips.
//

164 Kragar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:59:11am

re: #160 Charles Johnson

Good grief.


“I certainly will not claim the United Kingdom has more than twice the rape rate because American women are allowed to own guns while British women for practical purposes are not, but it does make you wonder, doesn’t it”

Then why bring it up, douchenozzle?

165 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:59:20am

re: #160 Charles Johnson

Good grief.

Wingnuts totally oblivious to the fact that UK defines “crimes against the person” totally differently than US. It’s apples to oranges. Not that it makes any difference to these people who live in a fact-free chamber.

166 calochortus  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:59:29am

re: #142 Ghost of Tom Joad

We had a string of robberies in my area a few years ago. We were never touched. 2 100-pound dogs. Only reason I can think we weren’t hit.

Most burglars etc. aren’t looking to kill etc. They’re just looking to quickly steal some expensive shit (electronics/jewelry) and get out.

I’m wondering about putting up a sign explaining that burglars are unlikely to find much that ‘s worth their while-something along the line of “Don’t bother, we still have a phone with an actual dial on it”

167 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:59:38am

re: #160 Charles Johnson

Why are Democrats pro-rape?Gun-controlled UK has more than double U.S. rape incidence.claytonecramer.blogspot.com/2013/01/britis…
— Instapundit.com (@instapundit) January 30, 2013

WTF?

168 A Mom Anon  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 11:59:49am

re: #160 Charles Johnson

He can just kiss my ass. That’s just so nauseating I don’t know where to start. Instadumbass needs to shut his fucking piehole about rape.

169 dragonfire1981  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:00:32pm

I was just looking at Google satellite imagery of the area where the shooting occurred. It looks to be most Doctor’s offices and medical complexes.

170 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:00:47pm

Breaking news I just heard on my radio:

Israel hits weapons convoy on Syria-Lebanon border: Report

171 Lidane  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:01:09pm

re: #144 Skip Intro

A letter in today’s paper fantasized about how the Tutsis, hiding in tents, could have avoided being massacred if only they had a 2nd Amendment and that’s why he’ll never give up his guns, never, because you never know when the Hutus are going to attack!

The fact that this was even published makes me wonder about the sanity of the paper’s editors.

What the actual fuck?

I’d ask if these morons even understood the environment that led to the Rwandan genocide, but I already know the answer.

172 Awea  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:02:08pm

re: #169 dragonfire1981

I was just looking at Google satellite imagery of the area where the shooting occurred. It looks to be most Doctor’s offices and medical complexes.

Didn’t a Doctor in California just get shot by his patient?

173 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:02:51pm

re: #157 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

You missed Fluoride…

174 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:02:57pm

re: #145 erik_t

My Bachelor Security System of strewn pop bottles, pizza boxes and laundry has not yet failed to deter this sort of burglar.

Those objects are known tiger attractors. So it was probably just the burglars being extra cautious.
/

175 dragonfire1981  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:03:04pm

Charles I meant to ask you, the new embedded tweets have not been showing correctly when I read the site on my Ipad for some reason. Either it’s the browser I’m using (a non safari one) or something with LGF. I am thinking the former but wanted to give you a heads up anyway.

176 dragonath  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:03:25pm

re: #77 Gus

National Review: Hispanics won’t vote GOP ever because they hate capitalism, love having kids out of wedlock

Nationalist Review

177 Lidane  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:03:34pm

re: #162 makeitstop

Stretch Of The Year, right there.

Seriously. The US Olympics Gymnastics team called. They wanted Instadouche to stop making them look bad.

What the actual fuck?

178 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:04:01pm

re: #171 Lidane

What the actual fuck?

I’d ask if these morons even understood the environment that led to the Rwandan genocide, but I already know the answer.

GUNZ=One Size Fits All Solution to All Final Solutions

179 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:04:20pm

re: #175 dragonfire1981

Charles I meant to ask you, the new embedded tweets have not been showing correctly when I read the site on my Ipad for some reason. Either it’s the browser I’m using (a non safari one) or something with LGF. I am thinking the former but wanted to give you a heads up anyway.

For grins see what happens in Safari.

180 Targetpractice  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:04:43pm

re: #162 makeitstop

Stretch Of The Year, right there.

Christ, somebody should tell them to properly warm up before they do something like that.

181 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:04:49pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

Good grief.

Sooo….if the women there had 2nd amendment rights, they wouldn’t be raped?

183 erik_t  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:06:23pm

re: #182 Kragar

DeMint: Democrats Want Immigration Reform to Recruit ‘New Voters and Union Members’

Watching this is just amazing. I had no idea that the Republican Party was so comfortable in its racism. Just lettin’ it all hang out there.

184 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:07:28pm

re: #182 Kragar

DeMint: Democrats Want Immigration Reform to Recruit ‘New Voters and Union Members’

The funny part is unions used to be very anti-immigration because new immigrants were less likely to join the union and more likely to allow themselves to get exploited.

185 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:07:49pm

re: #182 Kragar

DeMint: Democrats Want Immigration Reform to Recruit ‘New Voters and Union Members’

Reality: The GOP want to block immigration reform and gerrymander the electoral college to “win” elections.

186 Awea  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:08:49pm

Boy, did those Republicans learn their lesson from the 2012 election.

187 Destro  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:09:06pm

Just another day in America - the Chechnya of the new world…..

188 dragonath  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:09:36pm

Ohh… TPM just misspelled Marco Rubio’s name as “Macro”.

189 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:09:57pm

re: #186 Awea

the lesson as always: conservatism does not fail, it can only be failed.

190 Kragar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:10:29pm

re: #186 Awea

Boy, did those Republicans learn their lesson from the 2012 election.

So much for a smaller, less intrusive government that doesn’t trample the freedom of the individual.

191 erik_t  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:10:30pm

re: #186 Awea

Boy, did those Republicans learn their lesson from the 2012 election.

@davidfrum A Tennessee bill would require schools to “out” gay teens to their parents [Link: www.thedailybeast.com…] …

YOUR PARTY, DAVID. YOUR PEOPLE. DON’T COME BLUBBERING TO ME. YOUR GODDAMNED PARTY.

192 Awea  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:12:03pm

re: #181 Ghost of Tom Joad

I guess hammers are outlawed in Briton too? Because you know how hammer violence is always mentioned, when talk about any type of gun control.

193 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:12:07pm

re: #182 Kragar

Is that former U.S. Senator Jimmy DeMint over there? Now head of thunk tank Heritage? Still leading the Revolution I see.

194 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:12:24pm
195 Kragar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:12:52pm

re: #189 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

the lesson as always: conservatism does not fail, it can only be failed.

Obviously the 2012 candidate weren’t conservative enough. They need to go derper.

196 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:13:12pm

re: #191 erik_t

YOUR PARTY, DAVID. YOUR PEOPLE. DON’T COME BLUBBERING TO ME. YOUR GODDAMNED PARTY.

He’s got to jump ship at some point.

197 Skip Intro  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:13:56pm

re: #171 Lidane

What the actual fuck?

I’d ask if these morons even understood the environment that led to the Rwandan genocide, but I already know the answer.

I think what he meant was he was preparing for when Obama gives the order to his black army to wipe out the white Christian conservatives.

198 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:14:00pm

re: #191 erik_t

Stockholm David Frum syndrome, or capture-bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy, sympathy and have positive feelings towards their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness. The FBI’s Hostage Barricade Database System shows that roughly 27% of victims show evidence of Stockholm David Frum syndrome.

199 A Mom Anon  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:14:07pm

Fuck. I just heard on the news that the little boy that maniac in Alabama is holding hostage is autistic. The little boy fainted when the guy made a grab for him and that’s the reason that he managed to get him off the bus. He was scheduled to appear in court this week for shooting at his neighbors because they drove over a speed bump he made and they messed it up.

That little boy’s parents must be beside themselves. I hope this ends up with the kid being unharmed. Fuck.

200 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:15:27pm

A Reuters report on the Israeli airstrike on the Syria-Lebanon border:

201 bubba zanetti  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:15:32pm
202 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:16:19pm

re: #73 Vicious Babushka

Been there, done that. He has a thread removed this morning that linked to a hate site.

The page he created today (and is doing denialist spinning like crazy in), links to a site that is closely associated with Pam Geller and Geert Wilders. During the course of the thread it’s moved back to the discussion from his deleted thread.

203 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:16:37pm

re: #199 A Mom Anon

Sounds like a real upstanding citizen, exercising his 2nd amendment rights to defend his patriotic speed-bump from an autistic child.

What in the hell does the moron hope to accomplish? Keep digging, shithead.

204 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:17:13pm

re: #184 Obdicut

I am giving you my best stuttering lawyer from My Cousin Vinny stare: “No more questions for this witness.”

“Wooh, he was a tough one.”

205 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:17:15pm

re: #202 RadicalModerate

The page he created today (and is doing denialist spinning like crazy in), links to a site that is closely associated with Pam Geller and Geert Wilders. During the course of the thread it’s moved back to the discussion from his deleted thread.

I think he’s just going for the downding record.

206 Kragar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:18:36pm

Meet The 9 Year-Old Girl Who Likely Would Be Alive Today If High-Capacity Magazines Were Illegal

The shooter in Tuscon showed up with two 33-round magazines, one of which was in his 9mm. He unloaded the contents of that magazine in 15 seconds — very quickly. It all happened very, very fast. The first bullet went into Gabby’s head. Bullet number 13 went into a 9 year-old girl named Christina Taylor Greene, who was very interested in democracy and our government, and really deserved a full life committed to advancing those ideas. If [the shooter] had a 10-round magazine? Well, let me back up.

When he tried to reload one 33-round magazine with another 33-round magazine, he dropped it, and a woman named Patricia Maisch grabbed it, and it gave bystanders time to tackle him. I contend if that same thing had happened when he was trying to reload one 10-round magazine with another 10-round magazine, meaning he did not have access to a high capacity magazine, and the same thing happened, Christina Taylor Greene would be alive today. I certainly am willing to give up my ability to own a high-capacity magazine to bring that young woman back.

207 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:18:47pm

re: #205 Vicious Babushka

I think he’s just going for the downding record.

I think outright ignoring him would be the worst punishment you could inflict. He’s seems like he’s at the point where he takes the ‘downdings’ as badges of honor for his cause.

208 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:18:49pm

re: #182 Kragar

DeMint: Democrats Want Immigration Reform to Recruit ‘New Voters and Union Members’

Today, we learn that Jim DeMint is completely ignorant of the naturalization process. Those “new voters” likely won’t be citizens until sometime during the 2020s.

209 A Mom Anon  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:20:45pm

re: #203 Ghost of Tom Joad

From what I can gather, the lunatic’s house and the house next door share a dirt road/driveway and he built the speed bump out of dirt. Which of course is stupid,it’s going to flatten out if you drive over it. So he fired at the neighbors who had their 6 month old grandchild in the car at the time because he was pissed about that. Charges were filed and he was due in court today actually. No one seems to know if the kidnapping had anything to do with the court date or if he just lost his shit again over something else.

WTF is wrong with this country that this keeps happening ALL THE TIME???

210 Awea  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:20:46pm

re: #199 A Mom Anon

Fuck. I just heard on the news that the little boy that maniac in Alabama is holding hostage is autistic. The little boy fainted when the guy made a grab for him and that’s the reason that he managed to get him off the bus. He was scheduled to appear in court this week for shooting at his neighbors because they drove over a speed bump he made and they messed it up.

That little boy’s parents must be beside themselves. I hope this ends up with the kid being unharmed. Fuck.

Are speed bumps not designed to be driven over? This guy must be a genius, perhaps that autistic kid can talk some sense into him.

211 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:21:04pm

re: #201 bubba zanetti

No. Just movies like “Grumpy Old Men”.
/

212 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:21:07pm

re: #201 bubba zanetti

c’mon now, we know this guy was just a crisis actor and part of a false flag since this happened the same day as the senate hearings.

//

213 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:21:08pm

re: #186 Awea

Boy, did those Republicans learn their lesson from the 2012 election.

Laser-like focus on jobs!

oh wait, the way to “create” jobs is to eliminate the competition for those jobs. Marginalizing otherwise qualified people from opportunity because of some arbitrarily chosen trait.

214 Kragar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:21:42pm

re: #208 RadicalModerate

Today, we learn that Jim DeMint is completely ignorant of the naturalization process. Those “new voters” likely won’t be citizens until sometime during the 2020s.

But they could join a union, with all the supernatural eldritch evil that inherently goes along with them.

215 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:21:59pm

re: #209 A Mom Anon

From what I can gather, the lunatic’s house and the house next door share a dirt road/driveway and he built the speed bump out of dirt. Which of course is stupid,it’s going to flatten out if you drive over it. So he fired at the neighbors who had their 6 month old grandchild in the car at the time because he was pissed about that. Charges were filed and he was due in court today actually. No one seems to know if the kidnapping had anything to do with the court date or if he just lost his shit again over something else.

WTF is wrong with this country that this keeps happening ALL THE TIME???

“He was due in court?” If he shot at somebody, his ass should be behind bars, no bail allowed.

WTF Infuckingdeed.

216 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:22:54pm

re: #215 Ghost of Tom Joad

FREEEDOMMMM!!!!

217 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:23:04pm

re: #215 Ghost of Tom Joad

“He was due in court?” If he shot at somebody, his ass should be behind bars, no bail allowed.

WTF Infuckingdeed.

Yeah well, they would put him in jail as soon as they get him out of the bunker where he’s holed up with the hostage.

218 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:23:04pm

re: #205 Vicious Babushka

I think he’s just going for the downding record.

I decided long ago that he was generally not worth the waste of energy required for the finger-press of making a downding.

219 Kragar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:25:18pm

re: #218 Feline Fearless Leader

I decided long ago that he was generally not worth the waste of energy required for the finger-press of making a downding.

A long time ago, my dad told me to “Stay away from the idiots”

Its still good advice.

220 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:26:07pm

re: #219 Kragar

A long time ago, my dad told me to “Stay away from the idiots”

Its still good advice.

I just give up when they get personal, not when they present or defend ridiculous ideas.

221 Kragar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:27:42pm

re: #220 Sol Berdinowitz

I just give up when they get personal, not when they present or defend ridiculous ideas.

I listen until they reach the point where I say “.. and you’re a moron.”

Saved me a bunch of time over the years.

222 dragonath  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:28:40pm

re: #196 Ghost of Tom Joad

He’s got to jump ship at some point.

Remember, he used to be an AEI fellow before he had the temerity to admit that the GOP was probably shooting itself in the foot over health care reform.

Right now he’s just trying to save the idea of Republicanism for himself. You see that with a lot of former party members who hated the tea party but still can’t see Democrats as anything other than a bunch of crypto-socialists.

223 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:29:02pm

I think I missed something (I know, not surprising).

The bunker guy is the psychotic that took the kid off the bus yesterday at gun-point? The kid is autistic and he is still got the kid?

224 Ghost Of The Mare Island Mud Puppy  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:30:53pm

re: #223 FemNaziBitch

To the best of my knowledge, yes.

225 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:30:54pm

More on the guy in Alabama:

According to an official in the Dale County, Ala. sheriff’s department, the man who took a child hostage after shooting a bus driver on Tuesday is a “survivalist” with “anti-America” views.

“His friends and his neighbors stated that he did not trust the government, that he was a Vietnam vet, and that he had PTSD,” Tim Byrd, chief investigator with the Dale County Sheriff’s Department, told The Southern Poverty Law Center’s Hatewatch blog on Wednesday. “He was standoffish, didn’t socialize or have any contact with anybody. He was a survivalist type.”

226 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:31:09pm

re: #224 Bubblehead II

To the best of my knowledge, yes.

FUCK

227 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:32:17pm

re: #225 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

More on the guy in Alabama:

batshit crazy and legally armed?

229 Dr Lizardo's Ghost Will See You In Hell  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:32:32pm

re: #199 A Mom Anon

Fuck. I just heard on the news that the little boy that maniac in Alabama is holding hostage is autistic. The little boy fainted when the guy made a grab for him and that’s the reason that he managed to get him off the bus. He was scheduled to appear in court this week for shooting at his neighbors because they drove over a speed bump he made and they messed it up.

That little boy’s parents must be beside themselves. I hope this ends up with the kid being unharmed. Fuck.

That’s disturbing indeed. Sounds like the maniac in Alabama is a major-league nutbar.

Here’s Dr Lizardo’s negotiations:

“Release the hostage unharmed, and I assure you that your death shall be swift and painless.”

230 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:33:01pm

re: #225 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

More on the guy in Alabama:

NRA is enabling these Whackos™ and they are doing so their their own detriment.

The tide of public opinion will turn the more kids are victims in such (I don’t know how to describe it —crime doesn’t seem adequate).

231 Ghost of Sionainn  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:33:10pm

re: #64 Dr. Matt

The dude has a -13,018 Karma. Impressive.

I thought for sure he was going for the -13,000 mark and then implode.

232 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:33:47pm

re: #231 Sionainn

I thought for sure he was going for the -13,000 mark and then implode.

strange badge of honor, that.

233 Ghost of Sionainn  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:34:08pm

re: #158 Stanghazi

Wow, what about the survivalist who kidnapped the kid, killed the bus driver & is now holed up in his underground bunker?

WTF

I’ve got a 6-year-old. My heart breaks for that poor kid and his parents.

234 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:34:49pm

re: #233 Sionainn

I’ve got a 6-year-old. My heart breaks for that poor kid and his parents.

I’d have to be sedated if it were my kid.

I can’t even imagine.

235 calochortus  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:35:28pm

If only the bus driver had been carrying

(actual quote)
Because a gunfight on a school bus would have ended well…

236 Ghost Of The Mare Island Mud Puppy  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:35:33pm

re: #230 FemNaziBitch

NRA is enabling these WhackosTM and they are doing so their their own detriment.

The tide of public opinion will turn the more kids are victims in such (I don’t know how to describe it —crime doesn’t seem adequate_.

Atrocities seems to fit the bill.

237 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:35:45pm

re: #230 FemNaziBitch

I am just waiting to hear more on what this guys’ “Grievances” are. I’m willing to bet he’s afraid the scary negro is gonna come take his guns.

238 calochortus  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:35:55pm

re: #234 FemNaziBitch

I’d have to be sedated if it were my kid.

I can’t even imagine.

Me too.

239 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:36:41pm

re: #235 calochortus

I said the same thing WRT aurora. A dark movie theater filled with smoke from smoke bombs and everyone armed…what could possibly have gone wrong?

240 calochortus  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:37:34pm

re: #239 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

But it always works out well in the movies…

241 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:38:52pm

TGDN has the answer for everything:

MOAR GUNZ!1!
BENGHAZI!1!
ITZ OBAMUZ FAULT!1!

242 Skip Intro  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:39:17pm

re: #230 FemNaziBitch

NRA is enabling these WhackosTM and they are doing so their their own detriment.

The tide of public opinion will turn the more kids are victims in such (I don’t know how to describe it —crime doesn’t seem adequate_.

These guys are getting antsy waiting for Glenn Beck to build his new “Independence” according to the principles of Marx. Then they’ll finally have their safe place with high walls and no goobermint interference to live out their survivalist fantasies. Until then, we’re stuck with them.

243 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:39:19pm

re: #239 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I said the same thing WRT aurora. A dark movie theater filled with smoke from smoke bombs and everyone armed…what could possibly have gone wrong?

The NRA-types are coming from a 1950’s position thinking that all those carrying a firearm will be trained (at some point in their lives) in a military or law enforcement type mind-set to follow the chain-of-command. They honestly think that an armed citizenry of 2012 will sit-tight, wait for orders and not just start shooting.

As usual, conservatives are the last to recognize change.

244 Awea  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:39:31pm

re: #239 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I said the same thing WRT aurora. A dark movie theater filled with smoke from smoke bombs and everyone armed…what could possibly have gone wrong?

They should make a first person shooter, where everyone looks identical, everyone is armed, but you only win when you shoot the bad guy with the gun. But there is no way for you to be able to identify the good guy from the bad guy, seeing everyone has guns.

245 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:40:33pm

re: #230 FemNaziBitch

NRA is enabling these WhackosTM and they are doing so their their own detriment.

The tide of public opinion will turn the more kids are victims in such (I don’t know how to describe it —crime doesn’t seem adequate_.

The tide of opinion has turned, we see that their standard techniques of intimidation and shouting down their opponents does not work any more.

246 Awea  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:40:50pm

re: #243 FemNaziBitch

Remember Timothy McVeigh was military trained.

247 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:40:53pm

re: #232 FemNaziBitch

strange badge of honor, that.

honey badger of honor don’t give a shit.

248 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:41:39pm

re: #245 Sol Berdinowitz

The tide of opinion has turned, we see that their standard techniques of intimidation and shouting down their opponents does not work any more.

YOu think it has changed enough to get ANY of the POTUS/VPOTUS ideas passed thru both houses this year?

249 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:42:29pm

re: #246 Awea

Remember Timothy McVeigh was military trained.

I was referring to the concept of everyone being armed—as a means of defense against the Timothy McVeigh’s of the world.

250 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:42:54pm

re: #243 FemNaziBitch

The NRA-types are coming from a 1950’s position thinking that all those carrying a firearm will be trained (at some point in their lives) in a military or law enforcement type mind-set to follow the chain-of-command. They honestly think that an armed citizenry of 2012 will sit-tight, wait for orders and not just start shooting.

As usual, conservatives are the last to recognize change.

You still hung up on that “well-regulated militia” clause? Move on already, that’s so 18th century!!! Nowadays it’s all about the “shall not be infringed” part.

251 Lidane  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:43:28pm

re: #191 erik_t

YOUR PARTY, DAVID. YOUR PEOPLE. DON’T COME BLUBBERING TO ME. YOUR GODDAMNED PARTY.

A+ rant, would quote and upding again.

Seriously — if you vote Republican, STFU with your outrage over things like this. I don’t want to hear it. These are the knuckle-draggers your party votes into office. These are the things your party runs on, and how they attract their base voters. It’s all there in the party platform and in their rhetoric and in the legislation they write and pass.

These bigots are not “outliers”. They are not fringe. You can’t keep crying about No True Conservative or No True Republican. STFU with that noise already. After 40+ goddamn years of the Southern Strategy and Atwater’s hellish legacy of bigotry and ignorance being used to get votes and to influence the GOP, you made this bed by continuing to vote for anyone with an (R) after their name.

252 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:44:05pm

re: #250 Sol Berdinowitz

You still hung up on that “well-regulated militia” clause? Move on already, that’s so 18th century!!! Nowadays it’s all about the “shall not be infringed” part.

Which means Obama will be coming after all the pinking shears as well.
//

253 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:44:30pm

re: #250 Sol Berdinowitz

You still hung up on that “well-regulated militia” clause? Move on already, that’s so 18th century!!! Nowadays it’s all about the “shall not be infringed” part.

Me —no, I don’t think a “well-regulated militia” would have a snow-balls chance in hell of standing against a SWAT team or any other organized group of professionals. I also don’t think any threat would come in that form.

254 calochortus  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:44:51pm

BBL

255 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:44:59pm

re: #248 FemNaziBitch

YOu think it has changed enough to get ANY of the POTUS/VPOTUS ideas passed thru both houses this year?

I believe tide has turned, but it will be a long time before we see results. The point is, a lot of politicians are no longer in fear of the NRA and its lobbying powers.

That does not mean that there are not still a lot of politicians who support the NRA and its policies, but they will no longer see the sort of smooth sailing that they have enjoyed for the past 50 years.

256 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:46:15pm

re: #255 Sol Berdinowitz

I believe tide has turned, but it will be a long time before we see results. The point is, a lot of politicians are no longer in fear of the NRA and its lobbying powers.

That does not mean that there are not still a lot of politicians who support the NRA and its policies, but they will no longer see the sort of smooth sailing that they have enjoyed for the past 50 years.

Yes, I think you are correct.

It doesn’t help that guns and reproductive rights are always at odds.

Some women will choose guns, many more will not.

257 Lidane  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:46:52pm

Cue the Paultard ‘splodey heads:

258 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:49:36pm

I’m going to pull a reverse Godwin. I think TGDN wants to go all Hitler on POTUS.

259 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:50:42pm

Heh.

Liar liar, pants on fire:

260 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:51:46pm

re: #258 Vicious Babushka

“A president like Obama?” I think I hear the sheriff getting near.

261 Awea  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:52:04pm

re: #255 Sol Berdinowitz

I believe tide has turned, but it will be a long time before we see results. The point is, a lot of politicians are no longer in fear of the NRA and its lobbying powers.

That does not mean that there are not still a lot of politicians who support the NRA and its policies, but they will no longer see the sort of smooth sailing that they have enjoyed for the past 50 years.

I think part of the reason why they don’t have as much fear of them is. They used to be the big threat in their campaign if they didn’t tow the line. Either by denying them campaign funds, or giving them to their opponent.
Now, the Republicans are being threaten by tea party/ far right extremist causing them to be primaried. They were happy with the gerrymandering to make their district safe from the opposing party, but now they are constantly fighting with in their own party.

I would not be surprised if Republicans all of a sudden started pushing campaign finance reform, and try to have citizens united overthrown, because it sure isn’t helping them.

262 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:53:01pm

re: #259 lawhawk

Heh.

Liar liar, pants on fire:

“I agree with your reading of our 2004 study,” Koper replied. You can read the full study for yourself here and see that while it was not a ringing endorsement of the assault weapons ban, as many gun control advocates had hoped, it hardly “proved” the law to be a failure, as LaPierre claims. To the contrary, it found some encouraging signs, like an average 40 percent drop in the number of assault weapons used in crimes (some cities saw a drop of over 70 percent) and some benefit from the ban on high-capacity magazines.

I do hope you Page this.

263 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:53:44pm

re: #257 Lidane

Moar Guld! End the FED! /

264 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:53:59pm

re: #258 Vicious Babushka

I’m going to pull a reverse Godwin. I think TGDN wants to go all Hitler on POTUS.

WT bloody F-ing F???

But again, recall the central image of the Tea Party. armed rebellion against a tyrant. They need a tyrant or their little gun-centric fantasy world of True Patriots in Action Saving America collapses around them, leaving them to face their own pitiful, failed existences.

265 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:58:19pm

re: #236 Bubblehead II

Atrocities seems to fit the bill.

I’m thinking Cruelty is the synonym I like best.

266 Kragar  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 12:58:51pm

re: #264 Sol Berdinowitz

Paranoid conspiracy theories are a way to build up ones sense of worth. It means someone thinks that you are important enough they need to develop an elaborate scheme to try and fool or control you.

267 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:00:34pm

re: #266 Kragar

Paranoid conspiracy theories are a way to build up ones sense of worth. It means someone thinks that you are important enough they need to develop an elaborate scheme to try and fool or control you.

Something our Forefathers must have had in mind when they formulated the 2nd Amendment: even if you are sad, pathetic and meaningless, you still have the right to be armed and dangerous.

268 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:01:32pm
269 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:02:22pm

re: #258 Vicious Babushka

They can use their gunz to shoot the ACA. They needz protekion. //

270 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:02:48pm

New Page
Interesting study on mass shootings at Wired, and I added a poll-Which proposed gun control measure would you think will work best?

271 Joanne  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:08:11pm

re: #116 makeitstop

When my wife told me she was going to Arizona, the first thought that entered my mind was the possibility of her being in harm’s way by someone with a gun.

It’s a sad thing that the first association anyone would make with Arizona is ‘someone you love could be shot there.’

Unfortunately, AZ is but one of many. And it seems to be expanding.

Thankfully, I work from home. This whole wild west mentality is completely insane.

272 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:12:46pm

More on that hotel explosion.

SAN DIEGO — An explosion that tore through a Midway-area motel Wednesday appears to have been caused by a couple cooking illegal drugs in one of the rooms, police said.

The blast at the Heritage Inn SeaWorld at 3333 Channel Way originated in Room 225 at about 11:15 a.m. and blasted through the walls into adjoining rooms, investigators said. A man and woman, both in their 20s, in Room 225 were burned, as was a man in another room, they said.

Residents said they saw a man running down the hall in flames.

Ouch.

273 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:18:29pm

Baja Alabama getting severe storms and tornado warnings. At least 2 local people are still snug in a bunker.

274 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:18:33pm
275 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:19:25pm

re: #274 FemNaziBitch

Guess what failed idea is making the rounds again?

Insanity. Same thing over and over and expecting different results.

276 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:20:26pm

re: #275 HappyWarrior

Insanity. Same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Page 2 had a result that suggested drug testing of legislators.

I’d support that.

277 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:20:27pm

re: #273 Decatur Deb

Baja Alabama getting severe storms and tornado warnings. At least 2 local people are still snug in a bunker.

They are not praying enough.

278 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:20:59pm

re: #276 FemNaziBitch

Page 2 had a result that suggested drug testing of legislators.

I’d support that.

Yeah, after seeing some of the legislation submitted these past couple years, I’d love to see the results.

279 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:21:39pm

re: #275 HappyWarrior

Insanity. Same thing over and over and expecting different results.

I would like to kvetch and point out doing the same thing over and over again often produces different results.

That phrase has always bugged me.

280 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:22:43pm

re: #279 Obdicut

I would like to kvetch and point out doing the same thing over and over again often produces different results.

That phrase has always bugged me.

Fair enough. I think it has some validity though.

281 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:23:23pm

Smoking is bad for your health. And the environment as well.

[Link: dfw.cbslocal.com…]

282 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:23:44pm

re: #279 Obdicut

I would like to kvetch and point out doing the same thing over and over again often produces different results.

That phrase has always bugged me.

What happens at the tables in Vegas stays in Vegas.

283 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:23:55pm

re: #280 HappyWarrior

Fair enough. I think it has some validity though.

Yeah, the actual idea is more complex, it’s like “Doing the thing that has never worked over and over again, certain it’ll work this time despite having no fucking reason to think that and plenty of reasons to think it won’t.”

284 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:24:36pm

Barrett Brown declared not insane
Man with ties to hacking group competent for trial

A Dallas man with ties to the hacking group Anonymous has been declared mentally competent to stand trial on three separate federal indictments.

Barrett Lancaster Brown on Wednesday answered U.S. District Judge Sam Lindsay’s questions during a hearing to determine his mental competency. Brown’s attorney, Doug Morris, said his client’s mental state had greatly improved since he was detained last year.

285 Bulworth  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:25:23pm

re: #274 FemNaziBitch

More less government, I see. /

286 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:26:39pm

re: #284 Killgore Trout

Barrett Brown declared not insane
Man with ties to hacking group competent for trial

I want a second opinion.

287 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:26:48pm

re: #284 Killgore Trout

Barrett Brown declared not insane
Man with ties to hacking group competent for trial

LOL! No, he’s just an asshole.

288 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:27:45pm

re: #279 Obdicut

I would like to kvetch and point out doing the same thing over and over again often produces different results.

That phrase has always bugged me.

I think Einstein was just using that saying as a shorthand for describing people he thought were insane. Seeing as he was a scientist (among other things), I’m guessing he pertained it to those in scientific fields who would continue to conduct experiments that had predictable outcomes, but they kept trying to get something else.

We apply it today in that way. For instance, tax cuts. For every conceivable economic problem, the Republicans propose cutting the taxes of wealthy people, when time and time again it’s been proven to not work, and actually makes things worse.

289 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:28:03pm

re: #284 Killgore Trout

His mental state may have improved because he probably is getting treatment for his heroin addiction. I hope so, anyway.

290 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:28:52pm

re: #283 Obdicut

Yeah, the actual idea is more complex, it’s like “Doing the thing that has never worked over and over again, certain it’ll work this time despite having no fucking reason to think that and plenty of reasons to think it won’t.”

Yep. Agreed very much.

291 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:29:01pm

re: #288 Ghost of Tom Joad

I think Einstein was just using that saying as a shorthand for describing people he thought were insane. Seeing as he was a scientist (among other things), I’m guessing he pertained it to those in scientific fields who would continue to conduct experiments that had predictable outcomes, but they kept trying to get something else.

We apply it today in that way. For instance, tax cuts. For every conceivable economic problem, the Republicans propose cutting the taxes of wealthy people, when time and time again it’s been proven to not work, and actually makes things worse.

So Albert was Tweeting ahead of the invention of Twitter. That’s a good case of foresight!
;)

292 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:29:02pm

re: #283 Obdicut

Yeah, the actual idea is more complex, it’s like “Doing the thing that has never worked over and over again, certain it’ll work this time despite having no fucking reason to think that and plenty of reasons to think it won’t.”

And you beat me to it before I finished my blurb.

293 TedStriker  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:29:14pm

re: #237 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I am just waiting to hear more on what this guys’ “Grievances” are. I’m willing to bet he’s afraid the scary negro is gonna come take his guns.

Frankly, I don’t give a fuck to hear what this nutjob has a grievance against; he’s kidnapped a little boy and killed the school bus driver that tried to defend that little boy and the rest of those kids on the bus.

That, to me, should mean that just as soon as this murderer and kidnapper pokes his head out, a SWAT sniper should blow it off.

That wouldn’t bother me a damned bit.

294 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:29:17pm

re: #288 Ghost of Tom Joad

There’s no reason to think Einstein ever said that, actually.

295 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:29:20pm

re: #286 Decatur Deb

I want a second opinion.

He’s severely stupid with an acute case of Anarchy
/Dr. Trout

296 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:30:12pm

re: #288 Ghost of Tom Joad

I think Einstein was just using that saying as a shorthand for describing people he thought were insane. Seeing as he was a scientist (among other things), I’m guessing he pertained it to those in scientific fields who would continue to conduct experiments that had predictable outcomes, but they kept trying to get something else.

We apply it today in that way. For instance, tax cuts. For every conceivable economic problem, the Republicans propose cutting the taxes of wealthy people, when time and time again it’s been proven to not work, and actually makes things worse.

I think it only works if the “uncontrollable” variables don’t change. Like the stock market.

:0

297 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:30:49pm

re: #294 Obdicut

There’s no reason to think Einstein ever said that, actually.

Doubtful when you think about it. It was probably something taken out of context.

298 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:31:02pm

re: #288 Ghost of Tom Joad

I think Einstein was just using that saying as a shorthand for describe people he thought were insane. Seeing as he was a scientist (among other things), I’m guessing he pertained it to those in scientific fields who would continue to conduct experiments that had predictable outcomes, but they kept trying to get something else.

We apply it today in that way. For instance, tax cuts. For every conceivable economic problem, the Republicans propose cutting the taxes of wealthy people, when time and time again it’s been proven to not work, and actually makes things worse.

I think of it with Republicans proposing to eliminate ACA with Obama still in the White House and the Dems still with 50+ in the Senate. Or the baseball pitcher who grooves a fastball to the same hitter who has killed the same pitch previously. But yeah, Obdicut makes a good point that it’s more complex than just doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. I didn’t know the phrase originated with Einstein though.

299 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:31:05pm

re: #293 TedStriker

Frankly, I don’t give a fuck to hear what this nutjob has a grievance against; he’s kidnapped a little boy and killed the school bus driver that tried to defend that little boy and the rest of those kids on the bus.

That, to me, should mean that just as soon as this murderer and kidnapper pokes his head out, a SWAT sniper should blow it off.

That wouldn’t bother me a damned bit.

Nope. We lose every time one of these monsters dies silent. They are valuable data mines, and must be downloaded.

(The last time an area SWAT sniper solved a hostage situation, he used an improperly-zeroed rifle and put a round through the head of the 15 yr old female victim.)

300 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:31:07pm

re: #295 Killgore Trout

He’s severely stupid with an acute case of Anarchy
/Dr. Trout

I don’t think that is the DSM, but I’ll support that diagnosis.

301 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:31:47pm

re: #297 Ghost of Tom Joad

Doubtful when you think about it. It was probably something taken out of context.

As are many famous quotes.

302 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:32:22pm

re: #286 Decatur Deb

I want a second opinion.

From Dr. Fine, Dr. Nick Riviera or Dr. Zoidberg?

303 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:32:23pm

re: #299 Decatur Deb

Nope. We lose every time one of these monsters dies silent. They are valuable data mines, and must be downloaded.

I agree, but it still wouldn’t bother me.

I only care about the kid at this point.

It’s difficult to think long-term about this kind of stuff.

304 Awea  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:34:07pm

Another Fox viewer safely behind bars.

I am seeing a pattern here.

305 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:34:24pm

re: #297 Ghost of Tom Joad

Doubtful when you think about it. It was probably something taken out of context.

I’m betting it’s something someone came up with and just put “A. Einstein” on the end of it to give it some punch. Einstein was rarely pithy.

306 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:34:44pm

re: #302 Feline Fearless Leader

From Dr. Fine, Dr. Nick Rivera or Dr. Zoidberg?

Heh someone actually did a study and concluded that Dr. Nick is a better doc than Dr. Hibbert. Give me Dr. Spaceman from 30 Rock though.

307 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:36:50pm

re: #262 FemNaziBitch

Paged.

308 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:37:23pm

re: #306 HappyWarrior

Heh someone actually did a study and concluded that Dr. Nick is a better doc than Dr. Hibbert. Give me Dr. Spaceman from 30 Rock though.

309 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:37:48pm

Actually the doing the “same thing over and over again” meme is where I feel we are with this current gun violence proposals.

I got the feeling that POTUS/VPOTUS are acutally trying NOT to follow past attempts at addressing the issue, but everyone else (fill in whoever fits at this point, the NRA, the MSM, whomever) are falling back on the same old rhetoric and NOT looking at the evidence.

And we have the same old bru-ha-ha and nothing will get done.

310 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:40:36pm

bbl

311 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:41:11pm

re: #208 RadicalModerate

Today, we learn that Jim DeMint is completely ignorant of the naturalization process. Those “new voters” likely won’t be citizens until sometime during the 2020s.

Democrats play the long game.

///

312 Ghost Of The Mare Island Mud Puppy  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:43:49pm

re: #304 Awea

Did you even read the article?

She’s in her 80s

“We don’t believe she was trying to hurt us; she was just freaked out, scared,” Garbarino said. “She just didn’t know what was going on.

snip

The woman was taken by ambulance to a local hospital. Garbarino said the department is reviewing the case. But charges are not expected if the woman’s actions are due to a medical condition or incompetency, he said.

313 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:44:00pm

re: #303 FemNaziBitch

I agree, but it still wouldn’t bother me.

I only care about the kid at this point.

It’s difficult to think long-term about this kind of stuff.

Dr. Youngman. His advice to BB: “Don’t do that.”

314 b_sharp  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:44:17pm

re: #54 Vicious Babushka

Good luck getting money from people like this:

Yup, those 155 million people working are being overwhelmed by those 4.3 million people on welfare.

315 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:45:38pm

re: #306 HappyWarrior

Heh someone actually did a study and concluded that Dr. Nick is a better doc than Dr. Hibbert. Give me Dr. Spaceman from 30 Rock though.

Canadian Medical Association Journal. Mentioned on the Dr Nick wikipedia page. (Or the more impressive sounding “Journal de l’Association medicale canadienne” oh-hoh-ho*.)

* - a poor attempt at smarmy French accent sound effect.

Edit: LINK!
[Link: www.cmaj.ca…]

316 Slap  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 2:27:04pm

re: #305 Obdicut

I’m betting it’s something someone came up with and just put “A. Einstein” on the end of it to give it some punch. Einstein was rarely pithy.

Dunno if this helps, provenance-wise — but I had NEVER heard that phrase before working in a car dealership that happened to have the single largest group of recovering addicts and their sponsors I have ever been around. (Truly. Hell, multiplied.) And they ALL loved to use the phrase, since it was one of their “useful truisms” in AA.

It always sounded psycho-babblish to me.

317 efuseakay  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 2:37:27pm

re: #1 Kragar

Any word on what video game or movie drove him to do it?
/

It has to be QWOP.

That game is enough to drive ANYONE insane.

318 Ming  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 3:51:01pm

Ah, those evil video games. That’s why Japan has so much more violent crime than the United States. Glad Wayne LaPierre cleared that up.


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