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Catholic Diocese Boots Anti-Muslim Demagogue Robert Spencer

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Add this to the increasing marginalization of radical anti-Muslim views: A Catholic diocese in Massachusetts today rescinded its invitation to Robert Spencer, a prominent anti-Muslim writer and activist, to speak about Islam at an upcoming conference.

“Although the intention of the conference organizers was to have a presenter on Islam from a Catholic’s perspective, we are asking Robert Spencer to not come to the Worcester Catholic Men’s Conference, given that his presence is being seen as harmful to Catholic-Islamic relations both locally and nationally,” diocesan spokesman Raymond Delisle said in a statement to the Boston Globe.

Spencer had been invited to speak at the March conference, organized by the church in Worcester, sparking outrage from local Muslim groups. After an outcry, the diocese rescinded the invitation.

Spencer, whom the Anti-Defamation League’s ­Center on Extremism has called “the godfather of the anti-Muslim movement in this country,” has made a career out of writing books and giving lectures on the dangers of Islam. He, along with close collaborator Pam Geller, helped lead the opposition to the Park51 Islamic community center in Manhattan and has been behind dozens of other controversies. More darkly, Norwegian anti-Muslim mass shooter Anders Breivik cited Spencer’s writings 50 times, though Spencer has called the shooter “insane” and refuted any association.

The response from Spencer and Geller was predictable: Blame the media. Writing at FrontPage, Spencer claimed that he was “informed” that the Boston Globe’s reporter, Lisa Wangsness, “instigated the entire controversy” and that she “asked [Muslim groups] to call the diocese and demand the cancellation.” Spencer published his entire, lengthy email exchange with Wangsness, including her phone number and email address, along with a correspondence with Wangsness’ editor. They declined to comment in an email to Salon.

More: Catholic Diocese Boots Anti-Muslim Speaker

UPDATE at 1/31/13 12:39:00 pm (by Charles)

Spencer’s even more deranged crony Pamela Geller is ranting away: BOSTON GLOBE’S LISA WANGSNESS COVERTLY AGITATES TO STRONG-ARM DHIMMI CATHOLIC DIOCESE TO NIX ROBERT SPENCER!!! - Atlas Shrugs.

Those covert strong-arm agitators are the worst.

Also see:
Roman Catholic Diocese of Worcester Cancels Speech by Critic of Islam - the Boston Globe

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99 comments

1 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:10:13pm

Great news, thanks.

2 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:21:38pm

Let me guess, the diocese is part of the Muslim Brotherhood for booting him right?

3 Kragar  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:21:39pm

So how long before Pam declares the Catholics are jihadis?

4 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:25:25pm
5 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:26:22pm

Those covert strong-arm agitators are the worst.

6 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:27:07pm

Covert strong-arm agitators. Scratching my head here. Is that like a loud wallflower?

7 Kragar  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:27:27pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Those covert strong-arm agitators are the worst.

Not covert operatives of the grand Islamist conspiracy then?

I am disappoint.

8 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:27:41pm

Good news is always appreciated.

Glad to see he was “uninvited”. Of course, now according to Spencer and Geller, this means the Catholic Church is in cahoots with the “Stealth Jihad!!”

9 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:28:28pm

re: #8 Dr Lizardo

Good news is always appreciated.

Glad to see he was “uninvited”. Of course, now according to Spencer and Geller, this means the Catholic Church is in cahoots with the “Stealth Jihad!!”

Anyone who opposes them is in cahoots with the stealth jihad which believe me comes as a great surprise to the vodka on my shelf.

10 jaunte  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:28:34pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

I’m surprised she didn’t work one of her word-kludges in. (Diocesidal? Catholidiot?)

11 Kragar  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:29:30pm

re: #10 jaunte

I’m surprised she didn’t work one of her word-kludges in. (Diocesidal? Catholidiot?)

Catholiphate?

12 Bulworth  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:29:42pm

Can’t imagine why they would have invited him anyway. Surely they must know what he represents. There must be better informed Roman Catholics to discuss Islam.

Or they could, you know, invite an actual Muslim to discuss Islam. Nah, what was I thinking? //

13 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:30:38pm

re: #10 jaunte

re: #11 Kragar

There’s no way she doesn’t go for the ‘pedophile priest’ meme.

14 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:31:01pm
Spencer had been invited to speak at the March conference, organized by the church in Worcester, sparking outrage from local Muslim groups. After an outcry, the diocese rescinded the invitation.

They invited him in the first place? Mmk.

given that his presence is being seen as harmful to Catholic-Islamic relations both locally and nationally

So they invited a guy they had to know was a crazy anti-Islam bigot, and decided to redact the invite only after the Muslim community went apeshit? I think I’d take their worries about “harmful to Catholic-Islamic relations” way more seriously if they didn’t invite that piece of shit in the first place.

15 Kragar  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:31:52pm

re: #13 Decatur Deb

re: #11 Kragar

There’s no way she doesn’t go for the ‘pedophile priest’ meme.

Yeah, I can easily see that.

16 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:32:30pm

Do they not have researchers at the diocese? Shit, if I’m getting a speaker to speak on a hot button topic, I’d want to know who he is and etc. Just typing Robert Spencer’s name should make it obvious that the guy is bad news.

17 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:32:41pm

re: #12 Bulworth

Can’t imagine why they would have invited him anyway. Surely they must know what he represents. There must be better informed Roman Catholics to discuss Islam.

Or they could, you know, invite an actual Muslim to discuss Islam. Nah, what was I thinking? //

Sheikh Esref Efendi of the Sufi Center Berlin! That would be awesome. And he’s a nice fellow, too. That’s the dergha I always went to.

18 Bulworth  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:35:08pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

It’s like inviting raving anti-gay lunatic Bill Donahue of the “Catholic League” to talk about gay families.

19 Lidane  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:36:51pm

re: #18 Bulworth

It’s like inviting raving anti-gay lunatic Bill Donahue of the “Catholic League” to talk about gay families.

Or Tony Perkins:

20 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:37:23pm

re: #18 Bulworth

It’s like inviting raving anti-gay lunatic Bill Donahue of the “Catholic League” to talk about gay families.

Yep. That guy’s a fuckin’ nut.

21 Kragar  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:38:24pm

re: #19 Lidane

Or Tony Perkins:

The FRC and their supporters hate it when you tell them no one is born Christian, and the only way Christianity can continue is by active recruitment into the lifestyle and preying on children.

22 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:38:50pm

re: #19 Lidane

Or Tony Perkins:

I hate that David Duke shared mailing list fucker.

23 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:38:55pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Those covert strong-arm agitators are the worst.

Geller: “When did the Boston Globe start taking lessons from Hamas-TV?”

She looks pretty scary—here’s her Twitter profile photo. @wangsness

She’s clearly a dangerous pro-Hamas thug as she didn’t even denounce their charter in her article. //

24 JeffFX  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:39:08pm

I look forward to the day when all these hateful creeps are completely radioactive. People like Spencer should be shunned.

25 Bulworth  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:39:41pm

re: #20 HappyWarrior

Haven’t heard his name mentioned lately. I don’t watch cable TV nooz much anyway. But there usually isn’t too much time between Donohue eruptions that flow like lava all through the body politic.

26 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:41:00pm

re: #25 Bulworth

Haven’t heard his name mentioned lately. I don’t watch cable TV nooz much anyway. But there usually isn’t too much time between Donohue eruptions that flow like lava all through the body politic.

I only really hear him when he gets his head up his ass because the RCC is portrayed in some light other than gloating in the media. I mean shit man, I’m the great nephew of a priest, have godparents, the whole nine yards, and I am sick of this prick thinking he speaks for all Catholics even though I no longer consider myself one.

27 Kronocide  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:41:02pm

Charles, you got the Catholic Church to boot Spencer?

How you bask in your magnificently irrelevant mendaciousness-ness.

28 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:41:15pm

re: #23 CuriousLurker

She looks pretty scary—here’s her Twitter profile photo. @wangsness

She’s clearly a dangerous pro-Hamas thug as she didn’t even denounce their charter in her article. //

ZOMG! SHE’S A FEMALE OSAMA BIN LADEN!!1

29 Lidane  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:45:20pm

OT, but can I point and laugh for a moment?

30 Kragar  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:45:54pm

Perkins: Child Abuse ‘Can Only Get Worse’ if Boy Scouts Include Gays

Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council once again warned that incidents of child abuse will rise if the Boy Scouts end their national prohibition on gay members. Yesterday on his radio show, Perkins said that people are gay as “the result of abuse” and “trauma” in their life. “With an open door policy,” Perkins said, child abuse “can only get worse. So that could lead to these experiences and trauma for young boys that could lead them into that lifestyle.”

31 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:45:55pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Those covert strong-arm agitators are the worst.

I think we have one in our washing machine.

32 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:46:28pm

re: #29 Lidane

OT, but can I point and laugh for a moment?

Al Capone Vault Survivors For Truth.

33 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:47:53pm

The thing about both Spencer and Geller is that they’re incredibly, obnoxiously aggressive about harassing people who take a stand against their hate speech and bigotry. Geller already has a second post up about this, trying to incite her asshole readers to harass the Worcester Catholic Diocese and the Boston Globe.

34 Kragar  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:49:31pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

The thing about both Spencer and Geller is that they’re incredibly, obnoxiously aggressive about harassing people who take a stand against their hate speech and bigotry. Geller already has a second post up about this, trying to incite her asshole readers to harass the Worcester Catholic Diocese and the Boston Globe.

“MORE GIN! THE MUSE IS UPON ME!!!”

35 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:49:32pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

The thing about both Spencer and Geller is that they’re incredibly, obnoxiously aggressive about harassing people who take a stand against their hate speech and bigotry. Geller already has a second post up about this, trying to incite her asshole readers to harass the Worcester Catholic Diocese and the Boston Globe.

Yeah totally expecting both to get their fair share of threats and hate mail. Par the course with those two. Par the fucking course.

36 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:49:34pm

re: #30 Kragar

Perkins: Child Abuse ‘Can Only Get Worse’ if Boy Scouts Include Gays

Remember the set of moral equivalencies that earned Rick Santorum his less-than-savory sobriquet: To these guys, homosexuality, bestiality, pedophilia and wife-beating are all morally equivalent becaue they are all an abomination unto the Lord.

To allow one is to open the door to allowing all the others, and to practice one is to demonstrate a moral depravity that is as good as practicing all the others.

37 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:50:06pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

The thing about both Spencer and Geller is that they’re incredibly, obnoxiously aggressive about harassing people who take a stand against their hate speech and bigotry. Geller already has a second post up about this, trying to incite her asshole readers to harass the Worcester Catholic Diocese and the Boston Globe.

I’m kind of glad they are in a way, because I think that it’ll help expose them for what they really are. It’s the stealthy ones I worry about.

38 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:52:33pm

It’s kind of amazing how when Geller or Spencer et al get criticized or uninvited for being vindictive hate mongers they immediately begin to try to deny it by… vindictively spewing hate. O_o

If the diocese wasn’t aware of Spencer’s nastiness before, they sure are now.

39 Kragar  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:53:27pm

re: #36 Sol Berdinowitz

Remember the set of moral equivalencies that earned Rick Santorum his less-than-savory sobriquet: To these guys, homosexuality, bestiality, pedophilia and wife-beating are all morally equivalent becaue they are all an abomination unto the Lord.

To allow one is to open the door to allowing all the others, and to practice one is to demonstrate a moral depravity that is as good as practicing all the others.

Hey now, thats not right.

A lot of these guys have no problem with wife beating.

40 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:54:21pm

re: #23 CuriousLurker

She looks pretty scary—here’s her Twitter profile photo. @wangsness

She’s clearly a dangerous pro-Hamas thug as she didn’t even denounce their charter in her article. //

From that article:

[…]

Spencer, a Catholic, runs blogs and has written books that some consider anti-Muslim.

[…]

Spencer in emails to The Boston Globe ([Link: b.globe.com…] ) said there is ‘‘nothing hateful or bigoted’’ about his views, and called the diocese’s decision to pull his invitation ‘‘evidence of the cowardice of Roman Catholic officials.’’

Spencer is not a Roman Catholic. This is his brand: Melkite Greek Catholic Church. I guess he considers himself less cowardly.

41 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:54:49pm

re: #38 CuriousLurker

It’s kind of amazing how when Geller or Spencer et al get criticized or uninvited for being vindictive hate mongers they immediately begin to try to deny it by… vindictively spewing hate. O_o

If the diocese wasn’t aware of Spencer’s nastiness before, they sure are now.

WE”RE NOT HATEFUL YOU CAPO ISLAMOCOMMIE! But yeah, it’s like reading the nutcases on Twitter who claim liberals are the real hateful ones all whilst they are calling liberals parasites and drains on society.

42 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:55:42pm

re: #40 wrenchwench

From that article:

Spencer is not a Roman Catholic. This is his brand: Melkite Greek Catholic Church. I guess he considers himself less cowardly.

Shit, I don’t like sharing a Greek Catholic background with him. I mean granted I come from a different sect originally but still. Need a pierogi to brew this though.

43 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:58:26pm

re: #42 HappyWarrior

Shit, I don’t like sharing a Greek Catholic background with him. I mean granted I come from a different sect originally but still. Need a pierogi to brew this though.

Interesting history, but this kind of thing always sets off an alarm for me:

The Melkite Church has a high degree of ethnic homogeneity

44 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:02:45pm

re: #43 wrenchwench

Interesting history, but this kind of thing always sets off an alarm for me:

Don’t know but this is what my grandmother was raised in before she converted to RCC. That does raise an eyebrow though, yes.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

45 JeffFX  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:03:38pm

re: #36 Sol Berdinowitz

Remember the set of moral equivalencies that earned Rick Santorum his less-than-savory sobriquet: To these guys, homosexuality, bestiality, pedophilia and wife-beating are all morally equivalent becaue they are all an abomination unto the Lord.

To allow one is to open the door to allowing all the others, and to practice one is to demonstrate a moral depravity that is as good as practicing all the others.

Eat shellfish, and you might wind up romantically involved with a Basset Hound. This is serious business!

46 Ming  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:05:23pm

Classy as always: “Spencer published his entire, lengthy email exchange with Wangsness, including her phone number and email address, along with a correspondence with Wangsness’ editor.”

47 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:06:18pm

re: #46 Ming

Classy as always: “Spencer published his entire, lengthy email exchange with Wangsness, including her phone number and email address, along with a correspondence with Wangsness’ editor.”

Yeah because that won’t encourage harassment. Pitiful little clown isn’t he?

48 JeffFX  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:06:35pm

re: #38 CuriousLurker

It’s kind of amazing how when Geller or Spencer et al get criticized or uninvited for being vindictive hate mongers they immediately begin to try to deny it by… vindictively spewing hate. O_o

If the diocese wasn’t aware of Spencer’s nastiness before, they sure are now.

They are what they are, and it puts some limits on the harm they can do.
If Spencer were smart enough to deceive non-wingnuts he’d be a lot more dangerous than he is.

49 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:07:34pm

re: #42 HappyWarrior

Shit, I don’t like sharing a Greek Catholic background with him. I mean granted I come from a different sect originally but still. Need a pierogi to brew this though.

Just as a reference (I don’t want to stereotype) but I have some Greek Orthodox folks in my family through a few 2nd/3rd marriages, and they’re…not exactly the most accepting people. Very jingoistic, don’t like foreigners, fairly racist etc. I really don’t know if that’s more of a norm or something. Just figured I’d share.

50 JeffFX  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:08:50pm

re: #47 HappyWarrior

Yeah because that won’t encourage harassment. Pitiful little clown isn’t he?

I’d say “thug” rather than “clown” because I believe in applying a bad person’s worst characteristic as a label when letting people know what they are. Thug overrides clown.

51 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:12:49pm

re: #49 Ghost of Tom Joad

Just as a reference (I don’t want to stereotype) but I have some Greek Orthodox folks in my family through a few 2nd/3rd marriages, and they’re…not exactly the most accepting people. Very jingoistic, don’t like foreigners, fairly racist etc. I really don’t know if that’s more of a norm or something. Just figured I’d share.

You’re talking about Greek Orthodox. That differs from Greek Catholics which are Eastern Rite Catholics. Sorry to nitpick but wanted to clarify that Greek Catholic and Greek Orthodox are two different things. Not discounting your family experience in the slightest.To further expand on that, the biggest difference between Greek Catholics and Roman Catholics from what I understand is they allow priests to marry, cross themselves the opposite way, and they don’t celebrate Christmas on the 25th of December.

52 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:14:45pm

re: #49 Ghost of Tom Joad

Just as a reference (I don’t want to stereotype) but I have some Greek Orthodox folks in my family through a few 2nd/3rd marriages, and they’re…not exactly the most accepting people. Very jingoistic, don’t like foreigners, fairly racist etc. I really don’t know if that’s more of a norm or something. Just figured I’d share.

Sure seems like there are a lot of Catholics who are bigots. Pat Buchanan and his sister, Daniel Larison, Michelle Malkin, etc. Maybe it’s just that there are lots of Catholics. I was raised Catholic and certainly know more who are not bigots than are, but it strikes me how many prominent bigots there are.

53 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:16:02pm

re: #51 HappyWarrior

cross themselves the opposite way

Seems so silly to me….

/atheist out.

54 Kragar  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:17:07pm

re: #53 wrenchwench

Seems so silly to me….

/atheist out.

Spectacles, testicles, wallet, and watch.

55 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:17:36pm

re: #52 wrenchwench

Sure seems like there are a lot of Catholics who are bigots. Pat Buchanan and his sister, Daniel Larison, Michelle Malkin, etc. Maybe it’s just that there are lots of Catholics. I was raised Catholic and certainly know more who are not bigots than are, but it strikes me how many prominent bigots there are.

It’s a numbers game ultimately. Catholics seem to be all over the place. I’ve met some who I can legitimately say were to my left and others who were really right wing. I know it’s like that in others but man it seems like the Catholics really exemplify that. Not too often you have the same faith produce two poles like Teddy Kennedy and Rick Santorum. Alan Keyes is also Catholic. I remember one of the families in the neighborhood I grew up in who thought he would make a swell president.

56 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:18:40pm

re: #51 HappyWarrior

Ahh, k. Thanks, my knowledge of the various sects of Christianity etc. is absolute shit.

57 Lidane  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:19:08pm

Nice to see people focusing on the important things:

58 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:19:45pm

re: #53 wrenchwench

Seems so silly to me….

/atheist out.

Haha. Actually I remember thinking at the time when the Deacon explained it that it made sense to me. I think that’s the only time I go to church when I go to this one Greek Catholic church because it has an annual festival with Central European food- pierogis, kielbasa, haluski, etc. Only thing it’s missing is Silvovitz!

59 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:20:08pm

re: #54 Kragar

Spectacles, testicles, wallet, and watch.

lol, always liked that one.

60 Kragar  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:20:42pm

re: #56 Ghost of Tom Joad

Ahh, k. Thanks, my knowledge of the various sects of Christianity etc. is absolute shit.

Its my understanding most of the differences revolves around when one is supposed to kneel, sit or stand and in what combination.
/

61 Lidane  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:20:44pm

Also, El Rushbo is doing a fine job at GOP Latino outreach:

62 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:21:02pm

re: #56 Ghost of Tom Joad

Ahh, k. Thanks, my knowledge of the various sects of Christianity etc. is absolute shit.

It’s cool man. I wouldn’t know either but as I said my grandmother was brought up in it. It does make me wonder about some stuff though since most Slovaks are RCC.

63 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:22:13pm

re: #60 Kragar

Its my understanding most of the differences revolves around when one is supposed to kneel, sit or stand and in what combination.
/

Yup, the differences always seem pretty subtle from an outsider’s standpoint, but for the true believers, they’re pretty militant about it.

64 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:22:53pm

re: #61 Lidane

Also, El Rushbo is doing a fine job at GOP Latino outreach:

Satire obviously.// Seriously though? What the fuck is that shit.

65 Kragar  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:23:30pm

re: #63 Ghost of Tom Joad

Yup, the differences always seem pretty subtle from an outsider’s standpoint, but for the true believers, they’re pretty militant about it.

“STAND, KNEEL, SIT, KNEEL, STAND, SIT, KNEEL, STAND OR DEATH!!!!”

66 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:23:48pm

re: #61 Lidane

Also, El Rushbo is doing a fine job at GOP Latino outreach:

Just saw that. Maybe he’s a Rubio fan and this is his way of trying to create support for him. It’s not working very well:

67 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:24:24pm

re: #64 HappyWarrior

Satire obviously.// Seriously though? What the fuck is that shit.

Marching orders. Time to pimp Rubio to the base.
/only thing I can think of.

68 iossarian  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:24:53pm

Go Limbaugh! Push the needle! Fastest-growing demographic in the US!

69 Kragar  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:25:05pm

Remember folks, the only problem the GOP has attracting minorities is that minorities just don’t really know them and that damn liberal media keeps lying to them.

70 JeffFX  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:25:12pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

Do they not have researchers at the diocese? Shit, if I’m getting a speaker to speak on a hot button topic, I’d want to know who he is and etc. Just typing Robert Spencer’s name should make it obvious that the guy is bad news.

I just Googled him. The top hit is his propaganda group, and the Wikipedia article below his site does not make his issues plain to someone who falls for the “two sides” nonsense. The top article that would alert someone to what he really is and how he’s seen by decent people is about this disinvitation.

71 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:25:19pm

I like the name for the Simpsons denomation. They’re members of the Presbo-Lutheran Methodist church. Hell even though I identify as agnostic, I still call myself Irish Catholic because Irish Catholic is as much a cultural identity as it is religious one.

72 iossarian  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:25:27pm

I might have to start an anti-boycott of Rush. This is pure long-term Democratic gold.

73 Kragar  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:27:00pm

Fischer: Gay Boy Scouts Will Create ‘Sexual Tension’ on Camping Trips

Bryan Fischer has not been shy about voicing his opposition to consideration by the Boy Scouts to drop the policy banning gay scouts and scout leaders and he returned to the topic again today, warning that allowing openly gay scouts would create too much dangerous “sexual tension” during camping trips:

74 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:27:33pm

re: #72 iossarian

I might have to start an anti-boycott of Rush. This is pure long-term Democratic gold.

Seriously, forget boycotting him, play clips of what he says and point out that Republican leaders repeatedly appear on his show. Make the Republicans own him or make them run away from him but either way tie Limbaugh to them.

75 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:28:44pm

re: #73 Kragar

Fischer: Gay Boy Scouts Will Create ‘Sexual Tension’ on Camping Trips

The only tension Fischer knows is the tension he feels about being a goat fucking idiot.

76 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:29:03pm

re: #39 Kragar

Hey now, thats not right.

A lot of these guys have no problem with wife beating.

well, not if she deserves it, just not for entertainment purposes…

/

77 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:29:14pm

re: #73 Kragar

Fischer: Gay Boy Scouts Will Create ‘Sexual Tension’ on Camping Trips

The Christian closet-case talking about gay sex again. He has a one-track mind, doesn’t he?

78 Kragar  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:29:20pm

I listen to Rush so I know which products I need to avoid.

Sponsorship can be a real bitch sometimes.

79 Kragar  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:29:55pm

re: #77 Ghost of Tom Joad

The Christian closet-case talking about gay sex again. He has a one-track mind, doesn’t he?

“I’ve thought about this a lot…”

80 iossarian  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:30:01pm

re: #73 Kragar

Fischer: Gay Boy Scouts Will Create ‘Sexual Tension’ on Camping Trips

How is it that Fischer’s made it thus far without the inevitable airport restroom/carrying his bags/inappropriate twitter messaging story?

He’s a pent-up tsunami of repressed same-sex lust waiting to be released!

81 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:32:32pm

re: #80 iossarian

How is it that Fischer’s made it thus far without the inevitable airport restroom/carrying his bags/inappropriate twitter messaging story?

He’s a pent-up tsunami of repressed same-sex lust waiting to be released!

Surprises me too. Even if he’s not sexually repressed, he does have other issues that are common knowledge. Frankly, I’m sick of him slandering my gay friends as pedophiles and sex fiends when he obviously doesn’t know or want to understand that not every gay person is the fucking same. And of course he calls Jerry Sandusky gay even though there’s nothing that supports that all and even if true wouldn’t mean a damn thing.

82 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:33:17pm

re: #55 HappyWarrior

It’s a numbers game ultimately. Catholics seem to be all over the place. I’ve met some who I can legitimately say were to my left and others who were really right wing. I know it’s like that in others but man it seems like the Catholics really exemplify that. Not too often you have the same faith produce two poles like Teddy Kennedy and Rick Santorum. Alan Keyes is also Catholic. I remember one of the families in the neighborhood I grew up in who thought he would make a swell president.

My Mom’s older brother is on the right-wing end. He sent Christmas cards with a family photo (10 kids) and one year it somehow specified that they were Roman Catholic. Both my parents rolled their eyes. (We only had 7 kids in our family.)

83 A Mom Anon  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:33:34pm

re: #75 HappyWarrior

Again, Fisher and Tony Perkins spend more time thinking about gay sex than gay people do. So does that Peter LaBarbera dude that goes to all the gay bars and pride parades to “report” on the debauchery.

Those closets are so full of skeletons bones just fall out without even opening the door. Someone needs to check their basements for bodies or prisoners.

84 Kragar  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:33:34pm

re: #80 iossarian

How is it that Fischer’s made it thus far without the inevitable airport restroom/carrying his bags/inappropriate twitter messaging story?

He’s a pent-up tsunami of repressed same-sex lust waiting to be released!

“I reached this conclusion after researching it closely using my vast library of gay pornography… ITS FOR RESEARCH ONLY!!!”

85 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:33:35pm

re: #80 iossarian

How is it that Fischer’s made it thus far without the inevitable airport restroom/carrying his bags/inappropriate twitter messaging story?

He’s a pent-up tsunami of repressed same-sex lust waiting to be released!

First thing that comes to mind? Jerry Sandusky. He was doing what he did for decades, but he had people covering for him. Wouldn’t doubt Fischer has a bunch of people that would cover for him. And let’s face it, religious folks never seemed to have much of a problem with it.

86 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:36:59pm

re: #83 A Mom Anon

Again, Fisher and Tony Perkins spend more time thinking about gay sex than gay people do. So does that Peter LaBarbera dude that goes to all the gay bars and pride parades to “report” on the debauchery.

Those closets are so full of skeletons bones just fall out without even opening the door. Someone needs to check their basements for bodies or prisoners.

Do you ever watch Louie CK’s show? Only recently got into it but Louie and his friends were playing poker. Among them was a gay comic and he joked that he probably talks about gay sex more with Louie and his straight friends than he does his gay friends. Really, having had gay friends, I can attest that they’re just as boring as the rest of us.

87 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:37:26pm

re: #50 JeffFX

I’d say “thug” rather than “clown” because I believe in applying a bad person’s worst characteristic as a label when letting people know what they are. Thug overrides clown.

Plus clown makes him sound rather harmless, which he isn’t.

88 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:38:05pm

re: #85 Ghost of Tom Joad

First thing that comes to mind? Jerry Sandusky. He was doing what he did for decades, but he had people covering for him. Wouldn’t doubt Fischer has a bunch of people that would cover for him. And let’s face it, religious folks never seemed to have much of a problem with it.

Yeah but molestation is different from covert gay sex. I remember reading when the Ted Haggard story broke that the guy he was having the affair with didn’t know he was famous until he saw Haggard became a very public famous of gay marriage opposition.

89 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:38:07pm

re: #73 Kragar

Fischer: Gay Boy Scouts Will Create ‘Sexual Tension’ on Camping Trips

Hmm, and he knows this because…? NO, perish the thought, he NEVER felt such tension while on camping trips!

90 Ghost of Tom Joad  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:39:22pm

re: #86 HappyWarrior

Do you ever watch Louie CK’s show? Only recently got into it but Louie and his friends were playing poker. Among them was a gay comic and he joked that he probably talks about gay sex more with Louie and his straight friends than he does his gay friends. Really, having had gay friends, I can attest that they’re just as boring as the rest of us.

I have worked with, have family who are, and friends who are. They’re no different than anybody else. They love, hate, laugh, bleed, work, do stupid shit, and die like the rest of us. Just like every-other human being.

91 JeffFX  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:39:40pm

re: #71 HappyWarrior

I like the name for the Simpsons denomation. They’re members of the Presbo-Lutheran Methodist church. Hell even though I identify as agnostic, I still call myself Irish Catholic because Irish Catholic is as much a cultural identity as it is religious one.

I’m Irish and was raised Catholic too. We should have a fist-fight.

92 JeffFX  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:41:05pm

re: #89 CuriousLurker

Hmm, and he knows this because…? NO, perish the thought, he NEVER felt such tension while on camping trips!

It does give you a VERY different perspective on life when you’re a self-loathing homosexual due to religious indoctrination.

93 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:41:42pm

re: #90 Ghost of Tom Joad

I have worked with, have family who are, and friends who are. They’re no different than anybody else. They love, hate, laugh, bleed, work, do stupid shit, and die like the rest of us. Just like every-other human being.

Yep. But if you listen to Fischer and those like him, you’d think there’s a secret gay conspiracy to force kids to be gay, molest kids, subvert Christianity, etc. Totally think Fischer has some skeleton in his closet. Whether that’s a gay lover, closeted gay relative, or some really weird sexual kinks, I don’t know but his mindset about human sexuality is not the one of a healthy, well-adjusted grown man.

94 allegro  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:41:55pm

Speaking of bigots, I just went off on a young woman at a dollar store, of all places. I got to the checkout to hear the woman in a discussion with checkout clerks in both open stations. I don’t know what item she wanted, but they were out and she wanted to know when they would get more. They both said it was something they usually stocked, but right now they’re out and had no way of knowing exactly when more would come in, but they get frequent deliveries. The young woman kept insisting on apparently a different answer, over and over again. She got really indignant and haughty as hell, accusing the clerks of having an attitude (I thought they were both amazingly patient), demanding to see their supervisor, on and on. It became obvious that she was being a bully just for the sake of bullying people who couldn’t fight back, since her question had been repeatedly and very clearly addressed with the only available answer.

I finally said to the young (white) woman: “Honey, are you stupid or just desperate for attention? They have answered your question several times now,” which was met by snickers and nods by others in line. She shot back “mind your own business!” to which I responded that it was my business because she was wasting my time and everyone else’s and that her bullying of the clerks was not acceptable behavior. She finally paid for her items while lecturing the (black) clerks about their bad attitudes(!) and how they should be fired, when her daughter (about 8 or 9 years old) rolled her eyes and said “No stereotypes, right?” and the women said with a sneer, “No stereotypes, right.”

I was seething, saying “And a bigot to boot, teaching your child to be just as hateful.” She glared at me and started to open her mouth to say something but then looked around to see at this point about 5 of us ready to take her on in the manner in which she was treating the store clerks but without their need for constraint. She wisely shut up and stomped out with a loud hrumph.

What the hell motivates people to behave so badly?

95 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:42:05pm

re: #91 JeffFX

I’m Irish and was raised Catholic too. We should have a fist-fight.

You’re on!//

96 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:46:44pm

re: #94 allegro

What the hell motivates people to behave so badly?

For one thing, she didn’t expect you to be there, so she assumed she’d get away with it.

97 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:47:24pm

re: #94 allegro

It’s ego, sense of self. They don’t really think very much of themselves, won’t accept that fact and aren’t willing to work at changing even if they did. So they work very hard at cutting other people down.

If you can’t make yourself feel better, make every one else feel worse is their motto.

98 Ian G.  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:49:30pm

re: #61 Lidane

Wait, I thought Mexicans were stealing all the jobs of good, hard-working white Americans?

Jesus, if you’re going to base an entire political movement on vile bigotry, at least get your stereotypes straight!

99 TedStriker  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 5:26:05pm

re: #30 Kragar

Perkins: Child Abuse ‘Can Only Get Worse’ if Boy Scouts Include Gays

Tony, I’m a Scouter and I’m about to tell you something in a somewhat un-Scoutlike fashion:

Get fucked.

/that is all


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