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White House Releases Skeet Shooting Photo, WaPo Fact Checker Still Skeptical

And the right wing blogs are still ranting away about conspiracies
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Pro tip: if you want to be taken seriously as a fact checker, maybe you should avoid writing absolutely ridiculous articles like this one: The White House’s Curious Silence About Obama’s Claim of Skeet Shooting.

Yes, Washington Post fact checker Glenn Kessler actually seems to believe this is an important issue, or at least important enough to pander to the right wing crackpots who think the President lies about everything and anything.

Today the White House released a photo to prove that yes, President Obama really has done skeet shooting at Camp David, and how pathetic is it that this is even necessary at all?

Click to enlarge

Would you believe this still isn’t good enough for Glenn Kessler?

UPDATE, Feb. 2: The White House released this photograph of the president at the Camp David skeet range on Aug. 4, 2010. We are pleased the White House has become more forthcoming about this matter, though it does not quite answer the questions concerning the president’s ‘all the time’ language. What do readers think?

Good grief.

By the way, ace fact checker Glenn Kessler got the date of the photo wrong in his post. The caption at the White House Flickr page:

President Barack Obama shoots clay targets on the range at Camp David, Md., Saturday, Aug. 4, 2012.

Meanwhile, breitbart.com moron John Nolte is still ranting away about “Skeet-Gate.” Yes, really. They’ve made it into a -Gate.

MEDIA FOLLOWS OBAMA’S ORDERS TO MOCK SKEET-GATE SKEPTICS!!!

For example, Obama is attempting to grab more power for The State and criminals by way of gun control laws that infringe on our Second Amendment civil rights. In order to make his case, Obama is attempting to appear reasonable on the issue of guns, and one way he did this was to reassure Americans that he too is a sport shooter, and enjoys skeet shooting at Camp David.

Now, to those familiar with Obama’s record of opposing guns at every turn and lying about almost everything, that struck us as odd.

Today, however, the White House released a photo that purports to show Obama (love that tucked-in shirt) shooting skeet last August. Except… he’s shooting straight ahead, which means that there’s either a barn door somewhere in need of some patching, or Obama is such an awesome skeet shooter, he hits them as they come out of the firing device.

I keed, I keed. There are legitimate reasons that would explain the angle of his gun, but….

Because the photo is odd, some are asking perfectly legitimate questions.

But not the media.

Ladies and gentlemen, the conservative movement in all its sad, batshit insane glory.

Can we call them “Skeeters” now?

UPDATE at 2/2/13 11:58:48 am

After being most severely mocked throughout the Interwebs, Glenn Kessler has updated his post again. Apparently, he’s now satisfied that President Obama was not telling heinous lies.

UPDATE: As one might expect, there is a vast partisan divide on this, with some readers upset that we did not immediately change our ruling because the president released a photo, as we had requested in our original post. We try not to make snap judgements, but readers argued we had moved the goal posts. So we now have a photo, a news report quoting an anonymous that the president participated in a Marine guard competition and a news report quoting Obama that he has practiced with the Secret Service. The issue is settled, and we award the president a Geppetto Checkmark.

A “Gepetto Checkmark” for the president. I’m sure he’ll cherish it always.

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264 comments

1 Mattand  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:23:08am

It’s a photo of a black man with a gun. I’m stunned that the gun nuts/Tea Baggers/Republicans aren’t falling all over themselves demanding for an all-out weapons ban.

Not like it hasn’t happened before.

(I actually posted this on the previous thread, but it’s more relevant here.)

2 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:23:15am

Nice shotgun, good stance. I think he probably does do this quite a bit.

3 JeffFX  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:24:06am

re: #2 Shiplord Kirel

Nice shotgun, good stance. I think he probably does do this quite a bit.

The wingnuts say he’s doing it all wrong.

I don’t know who to believe/

4 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:24:08am
5 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:24:19am
Can we call them “Skeeters” now?

How about “Skeeptics”?

6 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:25:07am

Brainless morons.

7 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:25:08am

re: #3 JeffFX

The wingnuts say he’s doing it all wrong.

I don’t know who to believe/

Looks like what I as taught in Safety Class.

8 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:25:09am

Kessler, you maroon.

9 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:25:14am

That gas release looks odd, and I’m a long-time gas release expert.

10 Mich-again  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:25:17am

Skeeter says its no coincidence that the President is using a Browning shotgun.

11 Randall Gross  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:25:25am

The stench of veritable madness flies up the flue with every post at breitbart’s.

12 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:25:56am

re: #9 jaunte

teehee

13 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:27:57am

We need to get an infrared shot of this image in addition to the long form skeet certificate pronto!

14 austin_blue  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:27:59am

Break-action double?

15 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:28:33am

And the right wonders why so many Americans think they are bonkers.

16 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:29:05am

re: #14 austin_blue

Break-action double?

GDF said it’s one of these: [Link: www.browning.com…]

17 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:29:17am

re: #13 Gus

HEAT MAP ANALYSIS!!

18 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:29:37am

Notice where his finger is on the trigger, there are some pixels that look funny. I can tell this is shopped.

19 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:30:14am

re: #17 dragonath

LAYERING!

20 JeffFX  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:30:24am

The author is getting completely destroyed by commenters at The Post.

It has to be uncomfortable to write for a living and have all but a couple of like-“minded” readers realize that you’re nuts. The Internet is great at documenting crazy.

21 shecky  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:30:33am

I was curious about that fact checker article when it came out.

There’s no evidence that Obama has any bowel movements while at Camp David. Conclusion: the President may not be completely forthcoming about his regularity outside the White House.

22 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:31:17am

HE’S NOT WEARING A FLAG PIN… OR CAMO!!!!

23 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:32:14am

Here come the blondes again. Funny, that.

24 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:32:27am

re: #20 JeffFX

The author is getting completely destroyed by commenters at The Post.

It has to be uncomfortable to write for a living and have all but a couple of like-“minded” readers realize that you’re nuts. The Internet is great at documenting crazy.

Oh, god, the Post is still using those goddamn Pinocchios. How patronizing.

25 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:32:58am

repost from downstairs:

There is a book by a black man about that is pro-gun, it’s called “Black Man With a Gun.” The author talks about the racists roots of gun-control and why is is a 2nd amendment proponent.

He describes the fear induced by the title of his book. Growing-up in Detroit in the 70’s I totally support his thoughts. I understand completely. It’s irrational, but there it is. I had to force myself to face those fears.

Now, we see it on a National Level like we never have before. And it is totally irrational and very few want to face it within themselves.

This was a time in my life when I figured-out how much of society is designed around a “fear of slave revolt.” How much we are conditioned to accept control and justify control over others.

All based on fear of those we oppress rising up against us.

26 makeitstop  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:32:59am

Poor wingnuts. Trolled again.

They must be laughing their asses off in the White House today at how easy it is to drive RWNJs up a wall.

27 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:33:02am

Like I’m supposed to believe that’s Obama. Nice try.

28 Tigger2005  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:33:53am

What is the significance of the tucked in shirt?

29 Tigger2005  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:34:28am

re: #18 Charles Johnson

Notice where his finger is on the trigger, there are some pixels that look funny. I can tell this is shopped.

Not even a sarc tag Charles? Daring!

30 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:34:38am

re: #1 Mattand

It’s a photo of a black man with a gun. I’m stunned that the gun nuts/Tea Baggers/Republicans aren’t falling all over themselves demanding for an all-out weapons ban.

Not like it hasn’t happened before.

(I actually posted this on the previous thread, but it’s more relevant here.)

It’s interesting that the paranoid false flag meme was already in existence at the time of the 1976 NRA coup:

Winkler writes that (extremist leader) Carter’s top deputy Neal Knox was even more extreme than him—wanting to roll back all existing gun laws, including bans on machine guns and saying the federal government had killed Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy as “part of a plot to advance gun control.”

31 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:34:39am

Glenn Kessler has put the final nail on destroying his credibility.

32 shecky  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:34:50am

re: #28 Tigger2005

What is the significance of the tucked in shirt?

Not only are they wingnuts. They’re hipsters, to boot.

33 austin_blue  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:35:08am

re: #16 Gus

GDF said it’s one of these: [Link: www.browning.com…]

Thanks, Gus and Frank!

That is one very expensive and high-quality shootin’ iron!

34 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:35:11am

By the way, ace fact checker Glenn Kessler got the date of the photo wrong in his post. The caption at the White House Flickr page:

President Barack Obama shoots clay targets on the range at Camp David, Md., Saturday, Aug. 4, 2012.

35 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:35:22am

re: #27 Obdicut

Like I’m supposed to believe that’s Obama. Nice try.

I’m quite proud of that robot.
I made it myself.

36 JeffFX  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:36:12am

re: #31 Gus

Glenn Kessler has put the final nail on destroying his credibility.

A great line from the comments at The Post

When you take the ridiculous seriously, you become ridiculous yourself. Pulitzer for Kessler on this one.

37 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:36:25am

Is this KT’s fact checker of choice???
/

38 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:37:06am

re: #35 Varek Raith

I’m quite proud of that robot.
I made it myself.

I’m confused, I thought you made zombies?

39 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:37:27am

The response is hilarious. Talk about an all time beclowning.

40 JeffFX  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:38:03am

re: #38 FemNaziBitch

I’m confused, I thought you made zombies?

I’d like to get on the waiting list for one zombie cyborg.

41 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:38:06am

The photo was obviously staged to emphasize the usurper’s left-handedness. No doubt this sinister ploy is a signal of some kind to his ACORN militia minions.

42 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:38:46am
cteller1
1:36 PM EST
aiming too low for skeet—

too high for paper target

photo op?

Ah, another moron who’s never done this before. I have. It’s is the correct stance and level for shooting those buggers.

43 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:39:07am
The Pinocchio Test

The evidence suggests that until Obama had access to a shooting range as president, he never went skeet shooting. He certainly did not speak like a politician who had once used a firearm.

But it is also curious that the White House refuses to provide any documentary evidence that he actually used the shooting range at Camp David, since he claims he uses it “all the time,” or that a presidential friend has not come forward to confirm the president’s comments.

We live in suspicious times and the president lives in a media fishbowl. That’s the way it is. In the meantime, we do not have enough information to make a ruling one way or the other. We are eager to see a photograph, or hear from someone who saw him at the skeet range, to put this matter to rest.

Hahahaha.
Wish granted.

44 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:40:02am

Once you use a firearm, people can hear it in your voice.

45 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:40:17am

DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND THIS IS OF VITAL IMPORT

IT’S MORE IMPORTANT THAN GUNS, CONTRACEPTION, AND WORLD PEACE ROLLED INTO ONE

46 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:40:28am

re: #44 jaunte

Once you use a firearm, people can hear it in your voice.

They can tell by the way you walk too!

47 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:40:49am

re: #45 dragonath

DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND THIS IS OF VITAL IMPORT

IT’S MORE IMPORTANT THAN GUNS, CONTRACEPTION, AND WORLD PEACE ROLLED INTO ONE

hey!

48 dragonfire1981  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:40:52am

Why is there no American Flag in the photo?!?!?!

TYRANNY!

49 Interesting Times  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:41:58am

Posted this downstairs, but it’s far more fitting here :)

50 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:42:39am

Lol.

Glenn, You ignorantly wrote> “He certainly did not speak like a politician who had once used a firearm.” WTF is wrong with you Glenn? How does a politician who has once used a firearm speak? Do they grab their nuts and say “yeah, I humped by AR15 last night right before I nailed that coyote” WTF is wrong with you.

51 Tigger2005  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:43:33am

re: #49 Interesting Times

Posted this downstairs, but it’s far more fitting here :)

Guess that’s the way to deal with wingnuts. Keep feeding them stuff like this and they’ll never get around to that revolution they keep talking about.

52 dragonfire1981  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:44:08am

OT but somewhat relevant, in the previous article someone posted a link to about a Chiappa firearms three barreled shotgun. I clicked the link and it seems that in my neck of the woods, Chiappa handles sales through a third party company. I went to that company’s website and immediately noticed something peculiar about all the pictured employees…

53 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:44:20am

re: #50 Varek Raith

Glenn, You ignorantly wrote

My mind finished that line another way:

Glenn, you ignorant slut.

54 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:44:55am

re: #52 dragonfire1981

OT but somewhat relevant, in the previous article someone posted a link to about a Chiappa firearms three barreled shotgun. I clicked the link and it seems that in my neck of the woods, Chiappa handles sales through a third party company. I went to that company’s website and immediately noticed something peculiar about all the pictured employees…

They look like a cover band for the Blue Ridge Boys?

55 Jan Smiddy  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:45:25am

Charles. Back to the skeeters question. Works for me. Shorter and easier than “deluded sociopaths.”

56 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:45:25am

Skeet trutherism.
Cheese and crackers.

57 dragonfire1981  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:45:41am

re: #54 FemNaziBitch

They look like a cover band for the Blue Ridge Boys?

You mean the Oak Ridge Boys? lol

58 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:46:01am

re: #57 dragonfire1981

You mean the Oak Ridge Boys? lol

ahhhhhh!

59 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:48:11am

Do the gun nutz honestly think that if there were a white republican in the White House after Newtown, there still wouldn’t have been some attempt at addressing the issue with AWB legislation?

Politics is politics .. .

60 Tigger2005  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:48:26am

One of my favorite moments in “To Kill a Mockingbird” is when Atticus puts down the rabid dog with a single shot from a rifle at range. His son, who has apparently always felt his dad was just not “manly” enough, learns in this moment what a true gentleman is. It is NOT that his father is a dead shot that impresses him. It’s that his father feels no need to show it off. It shows him that being a man isn’t about being a loudmouth with a big gun.

61 AntonSirius  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:49:14am

Based on satellite photos of Camp David and my own extremely limited skeet experience, I’m gonna guess Obama’s taking his first shot from station 6 in that pic, with the photographer standing against the wall behind him.

I wonder if he hit?

62 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:49:55am

Next- were the Nazis senseless? Was Obama’s gun forged by dark elves?

Hard hitting journalism from Glenn “Wankfest” Kessler

63 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:50:42am

re: #61 AntonSirius

Based on satellite photos of Camp David and my own extremely limited skeet experience, I’m gonna guess Obama’s taking his first shot from station 6 in that pic, with the photographer standing against the wall behind him.

I wonder if he hit?

Well, if he is good at sports, he probably has pretty good eye/hand co-ordination.

64 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:50:57am

re: #62 dragonath

Next- were the Nazis senseless? Was Obama’s gun forged by dark elves?

Hard hitting journalism from Glenn “Wankfest” Kessler

No, as it would’ve disintegrated in sunlight.

65 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:51:28am

Cwazy…

66 AntonSirius  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:51:43am
Can we call them “Skeeters” now?

Well, they are annoying pests, and they make me itch. Works for me.

67 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:52:18am
68 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:53:04am

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Jim Hoft, classy and smart as ever:

Gun Expert: “Obama Shoots a Gun Like He Throws a Baseball” …(President Panzy Pants)

Think Jim is projecting?

69 JeffFX  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:53:18am

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Jim Hoft, classy and smart as ever:

Gun Expert: “Obama Shoots a Gun Like He Throws a Baseball” …(President Panzy Pants)

The man will never be smarter than your average 5th grader.

70 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:53:34am

I know you were all wondering:

Image: Ov99fBf.gif

71 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:53:39am

re: #69 JeffFX

The man will never be smarter than your average 5th grader.

What do you have against 5th graders?

72 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:54:17am

and I’m convinced it is time for a nap.

Have a great one all!

73 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:54:23am

re: #65 Gus

Cwazy…

Fast & Furious = gunz

Skeet = gunz

therefore

Fast & Furious = Skeetgate!

74 Mich-again  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:54:36am

re: #66 AntonSirius

Well, they are annoying pests, and they make me itch. Works for me.

Yep.. Skeeter works.. always annoying, they won’t go away, they’re out for blood, they make a constant buzzing sound, repellent is only somewhat effective, you have to slap them to make em stop.

75 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:55:44am

re: #64 Varek Raith

No, as it would’ve disintegrated in sunlight.

Bosh, and double bosh. It’s all photoshopped.

Have you ever seen the windows on his car? They’re tinted

Obama is really Count Blackula

76 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:56:06am

re: #70 Obdicut

I know you were all wondering:

Image: Ov99fBf.gif

Looks like Hawaii is nothin’ but hogs.

77 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:57:06am

Morons seeking a President who will personally shotgun their enemies, foreign and domestic.

78 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:58:42am

Twitter is destroying America!

//half

79 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:59:28am

If Obama was really manly, he wouldn’t use ear protection //

80 Bulworth  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:03:48am

re:

81 Bulworth  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:05:18am

re: #65 Gus

and OBL

82 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:05:25am

re: #74 Mich-again

Yep.. Skeeter works.. always annoying, they won’t go away, they’re out for blood, they make a constant buzzing sound, repellent is only somewhat effective, you have to slap them to make em stop.

Also, they have no brains.

83 JeffFX  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:05:27am

re: #78 Gus

Twitter is destroying America!

//half

It’s exposing insanity, but it’s making the insane increasingly delusional in the process. It makes any serious discourse impossible with the very low character limit, instead enabling idiots to spout soundbites to show how loyal they are to the party. Twitter really is pretty icky.

84 TedStriker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:06:19am

re: #63 FemNaziBitch

Well, if he is good at sports, he probably has pretty good eye/hand co-ordination.

I want to see President Obama do this:

;-P

85 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:06:56am

Heh.. look at the picture Mediaite is running with this story:

Image: Pinocchio-300x201.jpg

86 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:07:44am
Art V.
2:06 PM EST
Wrong headline. Should have been:

“Black man with shotgun in White House!”
87 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:08:07am

WaPo comment:

wadwizard
11:42 AM CST
I’m calling BS on the photo alleged to be of Obama shooting skeet. I see a number of problems:
(1) He’s shooting too low (unless he’s actually shooting trap, not skeet) (2) He’s holding the shotgun improperly. If he shoots a 12 gauge like that, high and on the tip of his shoulder, it would cripple his shoulder. (3) Shotgun shells are loaded with smokeless powder and don’t produce the smoke shown. Black powder might, but no one loads modern trap load shells with black powder. Also, a blank might produce that amount of visible smoke. (4) The smoke that appears to be coming out of the top of the top barrel through the “porting” is only coming out of one side. The porting on the other side is clearly seen to be producing no smoke. (5) The gun is firing but there is no recoil (“kick”) evident. A 12 gauge trap gun has considerably more recoil than many common hard-kicking high-powered rifles. (6) With this crowd, believe nothing,

88 TedStriker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:08:56am

re: #87 jaunte

WaPo comment:

Heat maps!

Pixels!

/ARRRRGGGGGHHHHH

89 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:09:41am

re: #87 jaunte

WaPo comment:

Jesus, I’ve actually fired a shotgun. That guy is full of crap.

90 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:10:07am

Does Jim Hoft ghostwrite Kessler’s articles?

Abraham Lincoln’s Curious Silence- What is he Hiding?

Does God have a Beard?

Just asking questions.

91 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:10:28am

Still photos occasionally fail to show recoil…

92 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:10:41am

From Jim Hoft’s comments:

TOTAL FAKE.. Here’s why.

Cheek pressed against a fired shot gun doesn’t fare well. It’s an idiot who does this or gets a hell of a bruise.

Smoke is photo shopped. If he just pulled the trigger his cheek wouldn’t be fixed on the butt if the gun.
His shoulder would be jammed backwards.

He’s aiming ground level. Unless he’s aiming for the skeet “shooter” he’s not aiming high enough for skeet.

93 Ghost of Sionainn  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:10:45am

re: #89 Varek Raith

Jesus, I’ve actually fired a shotgun. That guy is full of crap.

I have, too. Can’t you hear it in my voice?

94 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:11:33am

Man, these gun nuts sure don’t know jack shit about guns…

95 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:11:39am

re: #84 TedStriker

I want to see President Obama do this:

[Embedded content]

;-P

He’s Hawaiian, he could totally do that.

Also, wtf?

96 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:12:48am
97 TedStriker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:12:56am

re: #95 wrenchwench

He’s Hawaiian, he could totally do that.

Also, wtf?

???

98 Lidane  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:13:32am

re: #94 Varek Raith

Man, these gun nuts sure don’t know jack shit about guns…

We know our Second Amendment rights you gun grabbing libtard! Who cares if we don’t actually know anything about guns?

///

99 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:13:33am

I love how they don’t even bother to learn about the model of gun he is using.
They just assume it’s a basic 12 gauge. It ain’t.

100 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:14:06am

re: #97 TedStriker

???

Do those guns work while their wet? Was that really a movie?

///

Funny, but still odd.

101 TedStriker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:15:12am

re: #100 wrenchwench

Do those guns work while their wet? Was that really a movie?

///

Funny, but still odd.

You’ve never seen Top Secret? Brought to you by the people that did Airplane!, it stars Val Kilmer in a spoof of WWII and Elvis movies (among other things).

For shame…

;-)

102 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:15:35am

re: #92 Charles Johnson

He’s aiming ground level. Unless he’s aiming for the skeet “shooter” he’s not aiming high enough for skeet.

Previously known as the Cheney Stance.

103 Ghost of Sionainn  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:16:39am

re: #92 Charles Johnson

From Jim Hoft’s comments:

Photo

And another photo

104 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:17:14am

Looks similar to any other politician I’ve seen posing with a gun. Do they spend this much time paying attention to how the politicians they like shoot? No, I didn’t think so.

105 Political Atheist  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:17:15am

re: #92 Charles Johnson

From Jim Hoft’s comments:

Wrong, wrong and wrong. The picture is fine. Two shooters in this room. There is nothing wrong with that image.

106 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:17:16am

Yep, because they go straight up when they launch em 40 yards downrange.
/

107 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:17:30am
108 Skeetghazi  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:17:31am

Kessler, the esteemed fact checker if I recall.

109 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:18:10am

re: #102 jaunte

Previously known as the Cheney Stance.

That must be how they teach it at Camp David.

110 Lidane  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:18:16am
111 Skeetghazi  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:18:44am
112 Mich-again  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:19:00am

re: #82 Charles Johnson

Also, they have no brains.

And they spread disease.

113 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:19:04am

Anders Golding of Denmark competes during the Men’s Skeet Shooting qualification round on Day 4 of the London 2012 Olympic Games at The Royal Artillery Barracks on July 31, 2012 in London, England.
[Link: www.zimbio.com…]

114 Ghost of Sionainn  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:19:37am

re: #113 jaunte

Anders Golding of Denmark competes during the Men’s Skeet Shooting qualification round on Day 4 of the London 2012 Olympic Games at The Royal Artillery Barracks on July 31, 2012 in London, England.
[Link: www.zimbio.com…]

Beat ya to it. ;-)

115 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:19:37am

re: #113 jaunte

Anders Golding of Denmark competes during the Men’s Skeet Shooting qualification round on Day 4 of the London 2012 Olympic Games at The Royal Artillery Barracks on July 31, 2012 in London, England.
[Link: www.zimbio.com…]

Pfft, novice!

116 Lidane  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:19:37am
117 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:19:57am

re: #111 Skeetghazi

Yeah because it’s such a pressing issue about the president shooting in his spare time. What a waste of fucking outrage. This makes birtherism look somewhat smart.

118 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:20:23am

re: #113 jaunte

Anders Golding of Denmark competes during the Men’s Skeet Shooting qualification round on Day 4 of the London 2012 Olympic Games at The Royal Artillery Barracks on July 31, 2012 in London, England.
[Link: www.zimbio.com…]

Goddamned European socialists.//

119 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:20:29am

I bet he has way better aim than these gun nuts.
XD

120 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:20:34am

Blue Creek Sport Shooting Complex will offer an abundance of clay pigeon shooting opportunities.
[Link: www.bluecreeksport.com…]

121 Lidane  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:20:35am
122 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:20:56am

re: #112 Mich-again

And they spread disease.

And they suck.

123 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:21:33am

re: #120 jaunte

Blue Creek Sport Shooting Complex will offer an abundance of clay pigeon shooting opportunities.
[Link: www.bluecreeksport.com…]

And I’d miss every one.
I sucked at it.
;)

124 Skeetghazi  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:21:35am
125 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:21:53am

re: #121 Lidane

Well that’s because they know Cheney can shoot because we know he’s actually hit something.

126 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:22:00am

re: #107 jaunte

[Link: www.efootage.com…]

Lies! The Obamabots planted that in the past just like the did the nirth certificate and birth announcement!!

//

127 Lidane  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:22:47am

Hahaha. This is awesome. POTUS deliberately trolled the stupid:

128 Lidane  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:23:13am
129 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:23:36am

Sarah Palin takes her daughter Bristol Palin out to shoot some clay pigeons at Grouse Ridge, a local Alaskan shooting range!
[Link: starcasm.net…]

130 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:24:10am

The amazing thing about that Cheney incident is that the guy who got shot in the face actually apologized to Cheney.

Because his face was in the way or something.

131 Lidane  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:24:29am
132 makeitstop  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:25:57am

re: #124 Skeetghazi

Day made. The skeet birthers are out in full force in response to POTUS pic. Makes for most excellent, delusional reading. #whereistrump

Man, I knew it. Plouffe is just toying with them and watching them twitch and dance.

You been trolled by a master, Skeeters. Idiots.

133 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:26:00am

re: #130 dragonath

The amazing thing about that Cheney incident is that the guy who got shot in the face actually apologized to Cheney.

Because his face was in the way or something.

I remember seeing that and thinking gosh way to make all the jokes about Cheney being Darth Vader look correct dude. I mean I remember the apology. It wasn’t just “I’m sorry” it was “I’m sorry for any discomfort I may have caused the vice president and his family.” Dude you were shot in face. And then there were the stupid right wing bumper stickers “I’d rather go hunting with Dick Cheney than driving with Ted Kennedy.”

134 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:26:15am

re: #131 Lidane

Built by ancient aliens and this guy

135 Lidane  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:26:31am
136 Lidane  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:27:32am
137 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:28:08am

Every single right wing blog I’ve looked at has commenters ranting about photoshops.

138 makeitstop  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:29:39am

re: #137 Charles Johnson

Every single right wing blog I’ve looked at has commenters ranting about photoshops.

Imagine the sheer energy it must take to argue every trivial little thing like it was The Most Important Thing Ever. It amazes me, it really does.

139 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:31:11am

re: #138 makeitstop

Imagine the sheer energy it must take to argue every trivial little thing like it was The Most Important Thing Ever. It amazes me, it really does.

Obama said there were 57 states. Man what a retard! Point out that Republican office holders repeatedly refer to Russia as the Soviet Union and the last two Republican nominees more than once referred to “Czechoslovakia”, then you’re just asking “gotcha questions” and how dare you question them.

140 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:32:57am

Dear wingnuts,
I got one question for ya,
What freaking purpose would it serve to fake this?

..
.
Heh, who am I kidding, you guys still think he’s Kenyan Muslim from Roswell or somethinghazi.

141 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:33:08am

Houston Chronicle comments:

pandemic
11:42 AM on February 2, 2013
There are so many errors in this photo shopped picture it’s ridiculous.
Anyone that has shot skeet knows what I’m talking about.

martasur
11:40 AM on February 2, 2013
firstly, i’d like a panned view to see if he hit his target (this ia a lateral shot where as any skeet shooter will follow the mid trajectory and shoot on decent as opposed to “head high”.
secondly, the timing of this is mindboggleing…

Armed_Texan
12:39 PM on February 2, 2013
The White House has issued “orders” that the picture cannot be manipulated or used in any way without their permission. Excuse me, but if this was taken on government property with a government photographer, they have zero authority to tell anyone what they can’t do with it. Typical overreaching from King Barry and his Court of liberal fools.

hightemp
1:14 PM on February 2, 2013
Never trust a left handed president. On top of that what the hell kind of shotgun puts out a blast on the side foot away from the end of the barrel. That’s a flash ,keep it from pulling up compensation device, which he banned,with the stoke of his pen and nothing else.. What a hypocrite.

[Link: www.chron.com…]

142 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:33:54am

Actual winger response

We know one thing for sure — He throws like a little girl. We have pictures of that.

Beyoooooond parody

143 Lidane  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:34:02am
144 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:34:07am

Why in a world where people are oppressed or ostracized for stupid reasons does Obama shooting clay pigeons really matter?

145 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:34:33am

re: #144 b_sharp

Why in a world where people are oppressed or ostracized for stupid reasons does Obama shooting clay pigeons really matter?

Benghazi.

146 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:34:55am

re: #144 b_sharp

Left-handed Presidents.

147 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:35:31am

I knew Obama was a warlock.

148 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:36:00am

Great, now they are dissing left-handed people.
What have I ever done to them?
/Woe is me

149 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:36:52am

re: #147 dragonath

I knew Obama was a warlock.

We’ve found a witch. May we burn him?

//

150 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:36:56am

re: #141 jaunte

Houston Chronicle comments:

[Link: www.chron.com…]

Do these people really have anything better to do than bitch about this? Oh and lol at never trust a left handed president. Every president since Reagan except W Bush has been a lefty so get used to us buddy, we’re taking over.

151 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:37:08am

re: #148 Varek Raith

Please do not go there. My late mom was a southpaw.

152 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:37:18am

re: #148 Varek Raith

Great, now they are dissing left-handed people.
What have I ever done to them?
/Woe is me

You know who else was left handed?

Not Hitler.

153 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:39:06am

re: #145 Varek Raith

Benghazi.

re: #146 jaunte

Left-handed Presidents.

These people must have some really shallow, frightened lives to make this big of a deal out of something that makes no fucking difference in any real world I’ve ever been part of.

154 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:39:17am

This is going to be a long four years.

155 Ghost of Sionainn  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:39:24am

re: #148 Varek Raith

Great, now they are dissing left-handed people.
What have I ever done to them?
/Woe is me

My 7-year-old came home one day really upset that she was left-handed. She was moaning about being the only left-handed person at school and at home and she wanted to learn how to be right-handed like everyone else. I mentioned that Barack Obama is left-handed. Her face lit up and she now thinks it’s cool to be left-handed.

156 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:41:04am

Writing - Left handed
Swords - Left handed
Guns - Right handed
/CONSPIRACY!

157 sagehen  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:41:10am

re: #63 FemNaziBitch

Well, if he is good at sports, he probably has pretty good eye/hand co-ordination.

Image: obama_bowling.jpg

158 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:41:28am

re: #153 b_sharp

These people must have some really shallow, frightened lives

Yep:
[Link: www.google.com…]

159 Ghost of Sionainn  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:42:22am

re: #156 Varek Raith

Writing - Left handed
Swords - Left handed
Guns - Right handed
/CONSPIRACY!

I do everything right-handed except shoot pool. Weird.

160 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:42:39am

Oh fuck- now these Skeetgate people are blaming the president for killing something called the American Hunters and Shooters Association. From wiki:

The group endorsed Barack Obama for president in 2008 after announcing that he would be attending a skeet shoot sponsored by them in Colorado. However AHSA head Ray Schoenke stated Obama did not attend the event. Schoenke said AHSA was intended to bridge the gap between urban liberals and rural gun owners and did many events in support of Obama, but had to close down due to a lack of support for its goals by the Obama adiministration.[3]

CONSPIRACY

161 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:42:43am

re: #155 Sionainn

Also remind her that some people believe that left handed people are geniuses.

162 dragonfire1981  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:43:05am

re: #155 Sionainn

My 7-year-old came home one day really upset that she was left-handed. She was moaning about being the only left-handed person at school and at home and she wanted to learn how to be right-handed like everyone else. I mentioned that Barack Obama is left-handed. Her face lit up and she now thinks it’s cool to be left-handed.

Lefties represent!

I’m left handed, my two parents are left handed and my two best buddies are left handed.

I’ve always been fond of “We were all born right handed but only some of us learned how to overcome us”.

In high school a classmate loved to refer to me as “wrong handed”

163 makeitstop  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:43:48am

re: #159 Sionainn

I do everything right-handed except shoot pool. Weird.

I do everything left handed except play guitar - the result of watching my father, brother and three uncles play rightie. I just assumed that’s how you did it.

164 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:44:33am

re: #155 Sionainn

My 7-year-old came home one day really upset that she was left-handed. She was moaning about being the only left-handed person at school and at home and she wanted to learn how to be right-handed like everyone else. I mentioned that Barack Obama is left-handed. Her face lit up and she now thinks it’s cool to be left-handed.

There’s a lot of good company to be had. [Link: www.indiana.edu…]
I got a Warren Spahn jersey t-shirt for Christmas simply because Spahn is the most winningest left handed pitcher of all time and the fact he was great to my Dad when my Dad waited on him and signed a photo for me.

165 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:44:41am

re: #162 dragonfire1981

I sat next to a left handed person in my high school biology class. We switched seats so that our elbows would not hit each other.

166 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:44:48am

Coffee - Ambidextrous
:)

167 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:46:04am

Obama totally didn’t show up for a skeet shooting event during an election campaign. The sky is falling. Cats humping dogs. The oceans boiled.

168 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:46:12am
169 dragonfire1981  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:48:40am

re: #165 PhillyPretzel

I sat next to a left handed person in my high school biology class. We switched seats so that our elbows would not hit each other.

My wife and I have that problem at restaurants sometimes.

170 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:49:04am

I did everything lefty as a kid but hit a baseball. For some reason like Rickey Henderson I was a righty hitter but lefty thrower. The other way around is more common- lefty hitter but righty thrower due to the advantage of being a lefty hitter. Wish I had hit lefty from the start. Today I mostly hit lefty but I will switch to the right if I fall behind in the count. I was playing softball as a ringer last summer. Had my first at bat lefty and got a hit but i fell behind on the second count so I switched to righty and the catcher was like “What the hell is this?” Ended up grounding out but I got a RBI. I always used to drive my kid brother nuts by claiming that us lefties are going to take over the world. But then he went and read that we die younger. Whatever, I’m happy to be in the same club as POTUS, Ben Franklin, Jimi Hendrix, and my two grandfathers.

171 Mattand  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:51:18am
172 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:54:53am

“Geppetto Checkmark” is the most retarded thing I’ve ever heard. Hope you like the mewling cries of the wingnut horde, Kessler.

173 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:57:05am

Really fact checking a photo op? What’s next fact checking the teams the president or candidate claims to like? “He didn’t attend every game, he’s not a true fan!”

174 Ghost of Sionainn  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:57:13am

re: #172 dragonath

“Geppetto Checkmark” is the most retarded thing I’ve ever heard. Hope you like the mewling cries of the wingnut horde, Kessler.

WTH is a “Geppetto Checkmark”?

175 makeitstop  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:58:35am

The media in this country is an embarrassment.

176 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 11:59:07am

After being most severely mocked throughout the Interwebs, Glenn Kessler has updated his post again. Apparently, he’s now satisfied that President Obama was not telling heinous lies.

UPDATE: As one might expect, there is a vast partisan divide on this, with some readers upset that we did not immediately change our ruling because the president released a photo, as we had requested in our original post. We try not to make snap judgements, but readers argued we had moved the goal posts. So we now have a photo, a news report quoting an anonymous that the president participated in a Marine guard competition and a news report quoting Obama that he has practiced with the Secret Service. The issue is settled, and we award the president a Geppetto Checkmark.

A “Gepetto Checkmark” for the president. I’m sure he’ll cherish it always.

177 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:00:05pm

Now I’m afraid. You’re all left handed?

Did I walk in to satanic cabal?

178 Ghost of Sionainn  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:00:26pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

After being most severely mocked throughout the Interwebs, Glenn Kessler has updated his post again. Apparently, he’s now satisfied that President Obama was not telling heinous lies.

A “Gepetto Checkmark” for the president. I’m sure he’ll cherish it always.

What’s up with the “we,” Glenn?

179 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:00:44pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

After being most severely mocked throughout the Interwebs, Glenn Kessler has updated his post again. Apparently, he’s now satisfied that President Obama was not telling heinous lies.

A “Gepetto Checkmark” for the president. I’m sure he’ll cherish it always.

So once again, Kessler gets caught playing MBF and whines about needing to correct himself.

180 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:00:45pm

re: #177 b_sharp

Now I’m afraid. You’re all left handed?

Did I walk in to satanic cabal?

Yep.

181 allegro  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:01:00pm

re: #165 PhillyPretzel

I sat next to a left handed person in my high school biology class. We switched seats so that our elbows would not hit each other.

In the high school orchestra, I sat next to a leftie violinist. Unless we were turned just right, with most every upstroke our bows clattered together. Once during a concert they actually got locked together - pulled my bow right out of my hand and it flew into the air, sending me scrambling to retrieve it. We were in pain trying not to lose it with laughter. It made it even harder watching the conductor fighting not to laugh as well.

182 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:01:03pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

After being most severely mocked throughout the Interwebs, Glenn Kessler has updated his post again. Apparently, he’s now satisfied that President Obama was not telling heinous lies.

A “Gepetto Checkmark” for the president. I’m sure he’ll cherish it always.

Kessler should be invited to the White House for a dinner of free-range skeet.

183 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:01:07pm

re: #177 b_sharp

Now I’m afraid. You’re all left handed?

Did I walk in to satanic cabal?

I wouldn’t say “Satanic”…

184 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:01:13pm

Just found this at Wikipedia. Left handed Presidents. [Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

185 Cap'n Magic  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:01:23pm

A tip from Penn Jillete: Don’t call someone a ‘moron’, ‘crook’, et al-those have legal meanings. Just call them ‘assholes’.

186 jdoc1357  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:01:37pm

Having analyzed this under magnification, there are several unusual pixels near the edges of the alleged photo. It is clearly cropped. They must release the Long-Form Skeet Photo or it is meaningless.

187 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:01:56pm

re: #180 Varek Raith

Yep.

Uh, where did the door go?

188 A Mom Anon  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:02:14pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

What the fresh freaking hell is a Geppetto Checkmark?
It’s not like there’s anything of actual importance this fuck biscuit could be fact checking. If I did any job this badly I’d be fired before the end of the workday. An elementary school kid could do a better job.

189 ibob  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:02:35pm

Handedness is fascinating. You can tell on ultrasound what will be a baby’s dominant hand by which thumb is being sucked.

190 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:03:10pm

re: #187 b_sharp

Uh, where did the door go?

Where indeed.

191 JeffFX  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:03:21pm

re: #171 Mattand

192 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:03:46pm

The Geppetto Checkmark

Statements and claims that contain “the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth” will be recognized with our prized Geppetto checkmark.

193 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:04:53pm

re: #184 PhillyPretzel

Just found this at Wikipedia. Left handed Presidents. [Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

I always liked that Garfield factoid. Writing Latin with his right and Greek with his left. I believe I also read he spoke fluent German. He’s obviously not well remembered since his time in office was very short but James Garfield was a very smart guy. Makes me wonder what his presidency could have been life if he hadn’t been assassinated. Anyhow the bit about Truman and Reagan writing right handed leads me to believe they were forced to switch by a parent or teacher at an early age. I know that’s what my grandmother tried doing to my uncle.

194 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:04:55pm

Priceless WaPo, just priceless.

195 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:05:26pm

One of the bazillion problems with all conspiracy theory thinking is that the thinkers of it can’t grasp the absurdity that someone with all the available resources of the office of the POTUS would:

1. go to all the trouble to stage a photo / photoshop the shit out of an existing photo / whatever, successfully make sure nobody leaked an un-“fixed” version or blabbed anonymously, etc

and yet

2. get every detail so wrong that basement dwellers with Cheetos dust on their fingers sleuth out the entire mystery in 30 seconds.

196 Ghost of Sionainn  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:05:29pm

re: #192 Gus

The Geppetto Checkmark

Crikey. That’s asinine.

197 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:06:33pm

re: #189 ibob

Handedness is fascinating. You can tell on ultrasound what will be a baby’s dominant hand by which thumb is being sucked.

I was so disappointed that my youngest brother ended up being a righty. Seems like my family’s good for one lefty a generation since both my grandfathers were, one uncle on each side were. A funny coincidence since both uncles were named after both of their fathers. So I guess that means to ensure a left handed son, I need to name him after me! Nah, not really, just a funny coincidence since both my grandfathers also married women who were older than them.

198 geoffm33  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:06:38pm
199 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:07:35pm

re: #192 Gus

The Geppetto Checkmark

Prized? I’ll need some independent verification that it’s “prized” by anyone.

200 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:08:03pm

I understand why fact checking exists and appreciate it but damn it whatever happened to taking someone at his word and just moving on. POTUS saying I shoot skeet doesn’t need to be made into a fucking circus.

201 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:08:15pm

re: #181 allegro

In the high school orchestra, I sat next to a leftie violinist. Unless we were turned just right, with most every upstroke our bows clattered together. Once during a concert they actually got locked together - pulled my bow right out of my hand and it flew into the air, sending me scrambling to retrieve it. We were in pain trying not to lose it with laughter. It made it even harder watching the conductor fighting not to laugh as well.

I’m right handed, myself. However, when I play an electric guitar, I play left-handed - but when I play a bass guitar, it’s right-handed. I wonder if has to do with my first musical instrument being the piano.

202 dragonfire1981  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:08:57pm

re: #200 HappyWarrior

I understand why fact checking exists and appreciate it but damn it whatever happened to taking someone at his word and just moving on. POTUS saying I shoot skeet doesn’t need to be made into a fucking circus.

You are thinking of white President rules…

203 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:09:26pm

re: #202 dragonfire1981

You are thinking of white President rules…

My mistake.

204 ibob  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:09:31pm

You can also be right or left eared, right or left footed, right or left eyed. The dominant side doesn’t have the same for all of these My daughter who is very left handed, usually kicks a soccer ball with her right foot.

205 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:10:19pm

Left eared?
Huh, never thought of that.

206 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:10:22pm

Fact-check!

“In an effort to dissuade fears that President Obama intends to take all guns away from Americans, the White House today released a photo of POTUS shooting clay pigeons at Camp David.”
[Link: www.globalpost.com…]

207 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:11:48pm

re: #204 ibob

You can also be right or left eared, right or left footed, right or left eyed. The dominant side doesn’t have the same for all of these My daughter who is very left handed, usually kicks a soccer ball with her right foot.

I usually hit a soccer ball with my left eye. Then I hit the ground with my middle nose.

208 kirkspencer  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:11:54pm

As Digby notes: really, this whole thing was considered a “news” article? Are we really going back to the behavior of the late 1990s (second term Clinton)?

209 Mattand  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:12:10pm
210 gwangung  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:12:34pm

re: #208 kirkspencer

As Digby notes: really, this whole thing was considered a “news” article? Are we really going back to the behavior of the late 1990s (second term Clinton)?

2nd term of a Democratic president. Of course we are.

211 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:15:21pm

Last week: “We’ll stop abusing the filibuster if you leave it alone.”
This week: “You actually fell for that?!”

GOP to Filibuster Obama’s Consumer Watchdog Pick

A little more than a week after Senate Democrats decided not to weaken the filibuster, Republicans are vowing to filibuster President Barack Obama’s nominee to head the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau unless its powers are reduced, Reuters reports.

212 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:15:59pm
213 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:16:41pm

re: #211 Targetpractice

Last week: “We’ll stop abusing the filibuster if you leave it alone.”
This week: “You actually fell for that?!”

GOP to Filibuster Obama’s Consumer Watchdog Pick

And you just watch, the next time there’s a Republican president and the Democrats threaten to filibuster once. McConnell or whoever the GOP has in charge by then will threaten to bring the Nuclear Option out.

214 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:17:14pm

re: #212 dragonath

Obama Team Mocks ‘Skeeters’ After Release Of White House Photo

Awesome

The mocking is proof that the conspiracy is real!

215 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:17:54pm

re: #213 HappyWarrior

And you just watch, the next time there’s a Republican president and the Democrats threaten to filibuster once. McConnell or whoever the GOP has in charge by then will threaten to bring the Nuclear Option out.

“But we didn’t use the nuclear option because you said it would set a bad precedent!”
“It did, namely it allowed us to stall you into uselessness, ensuring our return to the majority. Now pipe down, we got us some court benches to pack.”

216 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:18:12pm

re: #212 dragonath

Obama Team Mocks ‘Skeeters’ After Release Of White House Photo

Awesome

Breitbart thinks that this whole skeet thing is a conspiracy to make the right look bad.
Or something.

217 ibob  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:18:53pm

Inheritance for handed is also very interesting. It is a little more complicated than this, but it seems to follow the same pattern as Rh factor. If you inherit a gene for right handedness, you are right handed. If there is no gene present, you have a 50-50 chance going either way.

218 JeffFX  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:19:03pm

re: #216 Varek Raith

Breitbart thinks that this whole skeet thing is a conspiracy to make the right look bad.
Or something.

The right would NEVER do that to themselves.

219 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:19:29pm

re: #216 Varek Raith

Breitbart thinks that this whole skeet thing is a conspiracy to make the right look bad.
Or something.

Completely unnecessary.

220 blueraven  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:20:32pm

re: #163 makeitstop

I do everything left handed except play guitar - the result of watching my father, brother and three uncles play rightie. I just assumed that’s how you did it.

My son does most everything left handed except play guitar too.
He shoots pool with either hand.

221 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:21:19pm

re: #217 ibob

Inheritance for handed is also very interesting. It is a little more complicated than this, but it seems to follow the same pattern as Rh factor. If you inherit a gene for right handedness, you are right handed. If there is no gene present, you have a 50-50 chance going either way.

That makes sense. Lefties do seem to run in families. As I said, both my grandfathers were and they each had one child who was. My dad’s brother is the only lefty out of the six in their family but 50/50 as you said- akin to flipping a coin and getting heads 5 times and getting tails 1 time doesn’t mean it’s not 50/50. I do wonder what the chances would be if you had two left handed parents.

222 Political Atheist  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:26:32pm

Results on the gun control poll I paged…

Unsurprising support for closing the registration loopholes at shows and private transfers. I was surprised the assault weapon ban polled with as little support as it did.

Results as of 2/2

For those that might not have voted and would like to, just click the link.

223 erik_t  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:30:00pm

Afternoon, reptiles. The Harrison Ford whogivesashit.gif was made exactly for this story. I hope it has been so deployed somewhere upthread.

224 Ghost of Sionainn  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:41:46pm

Todd Starnes on the Fox Nation page making fun of Obama wearing “mom jeans.” Hurr durr derp.

225 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:43:18pm

re: #224 Sionainn

Todd Starnes on the Fox Nation page making fun of Obama wearing “mom jeans.” Hurr durr derp.

Jeans look pretty normal to me. Shrug. Always something to nitpick. It would be funny if it wasn’t the same sad song from the past four years.

226 BongCrodny  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:43:26pm
Can we call them “Skeeters” now?

No, because that would be an insult to mosquitoes.

227 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:43:44pm

re: #224 Sionainn

I don’t think he really wants to bring personal appearance into it.
Image: fox_Starnes1-615x345.jpg

228 Ghost of Sionainn  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:44:16pm

re: #227 jaunte

I don’t think he really wants to bring personal appearance into it.
Image: fox_Starnes1-615x345.jpg

Bwahahahaha!

229 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:44:21pm

Okay social networking pet peeve but if you’re going to add me as a friend and we have no mutual friends, unless you’re an obvious relative, tell me who the hell you are.

230 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:46:13pm

re: #227 jaunte

I don’t think he really wants to bring personal appearance into it.
Image: fox_Starnes1-615x345.jpg

Mom glasses!

231 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:47:34pm

Nobody else has explained that Obama is simply practicing to singlehandedly defend America against an attack from tiny alien UFO’s…

232 TedStriker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:48:14pm

re: #227 jaunte

I don’t think he really wants to bring personal appearance into it.
Image: fox_Starnes1-615x345.jpg

WTF is up with that ugly-ass tie?

233 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:49:07pm

re: #230 wrenchwench

Mom glasses!

Glass houses!

234 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:49:54pm
235 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:49:54pm

re: #230 wrenchwench

Mom glasses!

Oh my god, what an effeminate weirdo.//

236 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:51:15pm

re: #233 jaunte

Glass houses!

You know if he didn’t wear mom jeans they’d be complaining that his jeans are too low, ‘ghetto-style’. They might be preemptive mom jeans.

237 Ghost of Sionainn  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:52:03pm

re: #232 TedStriker

WTF is up with that ugly-ass tie?

He looks like the Pillsbury Dough Boy.

My husband wouldn’t be caught dead wearing a tie like that. All of his ties must be Jerry Garcia ones.

238 Amory Blaine  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:52:41pm

re: #93 Sionainn

I have, too. Can’t you hear it in my voice?

Hear it? We can feel your mighty, forceful projection. The weak-kneed among us buckle.

239 TedStriker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:53:22pm

re: #237 Sionainn

He looks like the Pillsbury Dough Boy.

My husband wouldn’t be caught dead wearing a tie like that. All of his ties must be Jerry Garcia ones.

Someone who wears shit like that has no business passing judgments on other people’s fashion sense; it looks like a leprechaun threw up on Starnes’ chest.

240 Skeetghazi  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:55:37pm

re: #234 jaunte

L O L

241 Amory Blaine  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:55:52pm

I was gonna say it is suitable for St. Patties Day. After hours. Tied around your head like the lead singer of Loverboy.

242 BongCrodny  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:59:35pm

re: #227 jaunte

I don’t think he really wants to bring personal appearance into it.
Image: fox_Starnes1-615x345.jpg

Conservatives Launch Facebook Alternative

By Todd Starnes.

A group of conservatives is launching their own social networking site after enduring what they call years of censorship and liberal bullying on Facebook.
The Tea Party Community is expected to officially launch on Saturday – but the social networking site for conservatives has already drawn nearly 50,000 members.
BE SURE TO JOIN TODD’S FAN CLUB – FOR DAILY SNARKY AND PITHY CONVERSATION! CLICK HERE TO JOIN!

Already signed up! — all you guys.

243 Amory Blaine  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 12:59:36pm

This isn’t the only party I killed with Loverboy.

244 Ghost of Sionainn  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:02:33pm

re: #238 Amory Blaine

Hear it? We can feel your mighty, forceful projection. The weak-kneed among us buckle.

LOL! When I was shooting a shotgun, I weighed all of 105 pounds and it didn’t knock me on my ass, either. So there.

245 Awea  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:04:02pm

re: #125 HappyWarrior

Well that’s because they know Cheney can shoot because we know he’s actually hit something.

They blamed the guy Cheney shot, for being too far ahead of the group.

246 JeffFX  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:05:44pm

re: #242 BongCrodny

Conservatives Launch Facebook Alternative

Their only way out is to integrate with sane communities and moderate their bizarre views. Instead they’ll continue to form insular communities that tolerate no reality at all, and continue to get worse until they’ve destroyed any potential they may have had.

247 Ghost of Sionainn  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:07:13pm

re: #242 BongCrodny

Already signed up! — all you guys.

I’m trying to sign up now to check it out.

248 Kid Skeeter  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:07:30pm

Ever notice how every time the right finds something to complain about when it comes to Obama that they do it in a very reasonable, logical manner, devoid of any references to his race, religion, and that it never gets personal?

Yeah, me neither. For fuck’s sake, I think this one beats the Mao Christmas ornament on the Christmas tree in the White House. Dumbfucks.

249 Mentis Fugit  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:08:48pm

re: #227 jaunte

I don’t think he really wants to bring personal appearance into it.
Image: fox_Starnes1-615x345.jpg

[HEV suit voice] Civility depleted

Someone’s Mom fucked a hamster.

250 Kid Skeeter  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:09:20pm

re: #242 BongCrodny

Okay, we have got to come up with a nickname for it.

Mine: The Stupid Network.

251 Ghost of Sionainn  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:10:07pm

Okay, are you all trying to get on that site at the same time as I am?!?

252 Ghost of Sionainn  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:12:38pm

re: #251 Sionainn

Okay, are you all trying to get on that site at the same time as I am?!?

You’ve encountered an error page. Our servers are currently overloaded. Please refresh the page or try again later. Thank you for your patience and understanding.
- TPC Staff

253 steve_davis  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:54:50pm

re: #3 JeffFX

The wingnuts say he’s doing it all wrong.

I don’t know who to believe/

The first time I fired a shotgun in my life, I hit the clay pigeon I was aiming at. I don’t actually like guns much, but as someone who apparently has enough talent to kill a clay pigeon flying away from me, he looks like he knows what he’s doing.

254 chadu  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:00:38pm

re: #21 shecky

I was curious about that fact checker article when it came out.

There’s no evidence that Obama has any bowel movements while at Camp David. Conclusion: the President may not be completely forthcoming about his regularity outside the White House.

I recommend prunes.. er, dried plums.

255 chadu  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:02:45pm

re: #32 shecky

Not only are they wingnuts. They’re hipsters, to boot.

Oh, Sweet Baby Jebus in a Disco, let me see President Obama drinking a PBR.

256 chadu  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:05:13pm

re: #52 dragonfire1981

OT but somewhat relevant, in the previous article someone posted a link to about a Chiappa firearms three barreled shotgun. I clicked the link and it seems that in my neck of the woods, Chiappa handles sales through a third party company. I went to that company’s website and immediately noticed something peculiar about all the pictured employees…

Oh, Sweet Krishna in a Butter Factory.

257 chadu  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:07:12pm

re: #60 Tigger2005

One of my favorite moments in “To Kill a Mockingbird” is when Atticus puts down the rabid dog with a single shot from a rifle at range. His son, who has apparently always felt his dad was just not “manly” enough, learns in this moment what a true gentleman is. It is NOT that his father is a dead shot that impresses him. It’s that his father feels no need to show it off. It shows him that being a man isn’t about being a loudmouth with a big gun.

Atticus Finch is what all American men should be, IMAO.

He’s even better than Batman.

258 chadu  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:14:20pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Jim Hoft, classy and smart as ever:

Gun Expert: “Obama Shoots a Gun Like He Throws a Baseball” …(President Panzy Pants)

Sweet Balder in a Laundromat! I haven’t shot any sort of gun since I was 15, and even I can tell the President is in a good stance.

259 chadu  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:21:18pm

re: #117 HappyWarrior

Yeah because it’s such a pressing issue about the president shooting in his spare time. What a waste of fucking outrage. This makes birtherism look somewhat smart.

At least the Birtherism had a point — a stupid one, agreed, but it was a point.

I’m starting to think that this consistent OUTRAGE from the Right and the courtier press over minor issues means that Obama is skullfucking them, and they don’t know how to deal with it.

260 chadu  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:34:30pm

re: #169 dragonfire1981

My wife and I have that problem at restaurants sometimes.

The elbows are the problem.

261 chadu  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:36:55pm

re: #182 Decatur Deb

Kessler should be invited to the White House for a dinner of free-range skeet.

With, perhaps a side of snipe?

262 Feline Fearless Leader  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:47:42pm

re: #156 Varek Raith

Writing - Left handed
Swords - Left handed
Guns - Right handed
/CONSPIRACY!

Heh.

I write and do swords right-handed, but shoot rifles left-handed.

:)

263 Feline Fearless Leader  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:54:34pm

re: #193 HappyWarrior

I always liked that Garfield factoid. Writing Latin with his right and Greek with his left. I believe I also read he spoke fluent German. He’s obviously not well remembered since his time in office was very short but James Garfield was a very smart guy. Makes me wonder what his presidency could have been life if he hadn’t been assassinated. Anyhow the bit about Truman and Reagan writing right handed leads me to believe they were forced to switch by a parent or teacher at an early age. I know that’s what my grandmother tried doing to my uncle.

Wouldn’t writing right-handed be favored when using ink since it would keep the hand away from was was just written (to the left and line above) and reduce the chance of smearing the ink before it dried?

264 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Feb 3, 2013 7:58:41pm

What I really want to know is who can shoot better: Obama or S. Palin. As I recall, she took at least 4 shots to put down that caribou. (And the unknown shooter finished the job.)


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