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Wingnut Free Verse of the Day: “TOTAL FAKE”

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Today’s wingnut free verse comes from the comment section for this post by the Internet’s Dumbest Man, Jim Hoft, the mighty Gateway Pundit: Gun Expert: “Obama Shoots a Gun Like He Throws a Baseball” …(President Panzy Pants) | the Gateway Pundit.

Quality wingnut-speak there: Obama shoots like a PANZY! Har de har har durr. Hoft quotes an anonymous source for this breaking news:

An anonymous gun expert, who did not wish to be identified, had this to say about Obama’s shooting style.

“Either the recoil kicked his ass or he doesn’t know to lean into the shot when shooting. He shoots a gun like he throws a baseball. That’s a ported shot gun. (holes - venting - at the end of the barrel. Less recoil.) You port really high power firearms to reduce the kick when fired. It helps with control and is less punishing. The smoke coming out of the top of the barrel lessens the muzzle jump and recoil. It means he’s a panzy. And it still threw him back. It also means he never shoots a gun.”

This is why Jim Hoft has such a reputation as a brilliant conservative essayist.

Meanwhile, at every single right wing blog, commenters are raving that the White House’s skeet-shooting photo is a PHOTOSHOP FAKE — they can tell by analyzing the pixels. And one of the best comments we’ve found in this vein comes from Hoft’s post, so maybe it wasn’t a complete waste after all.

Reformatted as free verse, we’ll title this one:

TOTAL FAKE

TOTAL FAKE..

Here’s why.
Cheek pressed against a fired
shot gun doesn’t fare well.

It’s an idiot who does this
or gets a hell
of a bruise.

Smoke is photo shopped.

If he just pulled the trigger
his cheek wouldn’t be fixed
on the butt
if the gun.

His shoulder would
be jammed backwards.

He’s aiming
ground level.

Unless he’s aiming
for the skeet “shooter” he’s
not aiming high enough

for skeet.

Jump to bottom

397 comments

1 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:11:35pm

They will finally back down and admit that it was not a fake photo when it comes out that Obama has the wording to the Second Amendment printed on all the skeets he is shooting down.

2 erik_t  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:12:06pm

Of course it’s fake! There are leaves on the trees. It’s February. Any idiot knows there are no leaves on trees in February!

3 BongCrodny  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:12:28pm

It would be really cool if the White House released a fake photo just to fuck with those guys.

4 erik_t  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:13:54pm

As usual, the most viciously certain gun experts sound, in fact, very much like people who have never fired a goddamned firearm.

5 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:15:27pm

re: #3 BongCrodny

It would be really cool if the White House released a fake photo just to fuck with those guys.

They wouldn’t be that stupid. Obama fired that gun. He may not do it often (that photo might only have been taken in prep for the fall campaign) but he did fire that gun on that day.

6 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:15:28pm

I have to say Charles, I like the free versing of it. It makes it that much more amusing. Greatly amuses me that they’re making something out of this. Stupid for even Internet’s most dumbest man, Jim Hoft and that’s saying something recalling his fauxrage over the tweet on New Years.

7 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:16:11pm

Because no one in the White House has any idea what a guy shooting a gun looks like. That’s how much they all hate guns.

8 Amory Blaine  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:16:19pm

I like these new poem sessions. It’s so bohemian.

9 Amory Blaine  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:16:59pm

Digging out the djembe..

10 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:17:07pm

re: #8 Amory Blaine

I like these new poem sessions. It’s so bohemian.

Yeah we need a bongo drummer with a beret and goatee to be drumming while we read it.

11 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:19:12pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

Yeah we need a bongo drummer with a beret and goatee to be drumming while we read it.

Not wise. The wingnut howler monkeys would shriek “PROGRESSIVE!!1” at the sight of him, then they’d start flinging poo.

12 erik_t  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:19:30pm

Seriously, on what planet is a grown man thrown backward by a 12ga? This isn’t a freaking movie.

13 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:20:00pm

re: #11 Dark_Falcon

Not wise. The wingnut howler monkeys would shriek “PROGRESSIVE!!1” at the sight of him, then they’d start flinging poo.

They’re going to be flinging poo regardless though.

14 anonymous gun expert  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:20:34pm

anonymous gun expert

Should I make this my new handle or start a band with the above name?

15 BongCrodny  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:21:18pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

They’re going to be flinging poo regardless though.

The tickets would read “Flinging Poo and Spinal Tap.”

16 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:22:35pm

re: #14 Iwouldprefernotto

anonymous gun expert,

Should I make this my new handle or start a band with the above name?

User name I guess. I do like Ragegasm for my angry metal band though. Just like I have Morning Whiskey for my alt-country band.

17 Ghost of Sionainn  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:22:44pm

I don’t know why I’m wasting my time with someone on my husband’s half-brother’s FB. He posted a quote, claiming it was from Benjamin Franklin. I posted a link showing that it was not. Now, there’s some gun nut friend of his whining that I’m attacking the messenger, I hate conservatives, that I should look at Conservapedia, and then states: “Here are some more things you should make yourself privy to- Agenda 21, the Benghazi cover-up, the funding of Egypt’s military, Australia’s affects from gun control and why the America’s became so successful after the American Revolution. Facts are my thing, actually, lol!!!”

I asked her, since facts are her thing, to post proof that quote came from Franklin. Now, she’s upset because THAT’S NOT THE POINT, it’s not the origin of the quote, but the meaning. Ugh. Stupid people.

18 stabby  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:23:09pm

I got to get to work, but I thought I would share this face-palm moment.

I was checking PJ Media to see what skeet-gate looked like over there (and people who called the President a liar are, not-so-oddly not posting more articles on that).

But the face palm was some woman ranting about how the bible says that all murder is murder. What is she talking about? The contraception insurance mandate! According to her bible, the pill is murder.

19 Ghost of Sionainn  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:23:23pm

re: #14 Iwouldprefernotto

anonymous gun expert

Should I make this my new handle or start a band with the above name?

TechDude.

20 Kid Skeeter  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:23:24pm

Wingnut haiku:

Holds gun like a girl,
Photoshopped for all to see,
Oh wait, BENGHAZI!!!

21 Ghost of Sionainn  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:23:56pm

re: #14 Iwouldprefernotto

anonymous gun expert

Should I make this my new handle or start a band with the above name?

Nic.

22 erik_t  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:24:10pm

re: #17 Sionainn

Facts are my thing, actually, lol!!!

I posit that this is the most credibility-destroying sentence that can be formulated in the English language.

23 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:24:13pm

re: #17 Sionainn

Hell conservapedia doesn’t even believe in the theory of relativity.

24 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:24:49pm

re: #23 dragonath

Hell conservapedia doesn’t even believe in the theory of relativity.

Yeah I remember hearing about that. What the fucking fuck.

25 Kid Skeeter  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:24:52pm

re: #23 dragonath

Hell conservapedia doesn’t even believe in the theory of relativity.

Or reality, for that matter.

26 stabby  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:24:57pm

re: #23 dragonath

I’m trying to remember what math they disagree with too.

Set theory?

Cantor’s stuff?

27 Randall Gross  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:25:08pm

Those Gateway Pundit skeetsperts are really pwning the prez now…

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28 Awea  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:25:59pm

I imagine if they had a video of this, they would then go and cling to the Orly Taitz body double claim.

29 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:26:19pm

re: #26 stabby

I’m trying to remember what math they disagree with too.

Set theory?

Cantor’s stuff?

I do remember hearing about a guy on Fox bellyaching about the distributive property because he thought it was socialist indoctrination but someone pointed out that he was whining more about the word problem’s wording than anything. Still amusing though.

30 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:27:03pm

re: #17 Sionainn

I asked her, since she facts are her thing, to post proof that quote came from Franklin. Now, she’s upset because THAT’S NOT THE POINT, it’s not the origin of the quote, but the meaning. Ugh. Stupid people.

I do not engage this sort of thing on Facebook. If you don’t want to see it, block the person or defriend them.

And I do not understand why you are arguing with them at all.

31 stabby  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:27:39pm

re: #29 HappyWarrior

I wonder what their stance is on the axiom of choice

32 Ghost of Sionainn  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:29:34pm

re: #30 Sol Berdinowitz

I do not engage this sort of thing on Facebook. If you don’t want to see it, block the person or defriend them.

And I do not understand why you are arguing with them at all.

Bored.

I’ll probably get rid of my husband’s brother. We never talk to him or anything and he’s probably the most conservative person on my friends list. Clearly, though, he’s got some nutjob friends of his own.

33 Kid Skeeter  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:29:36pm

Do any of these idiots on the right understand that every single photograph shot by WH photographer Pete Souza are UNEDITED. That’s right, under FEDERAL LAW, every single frame Souza has shot since Obama became POTUS are archived, unedited, not retouched, not Photoshopped. That means he can not dump pictures that he does not like. All original files you wingnut jerkoffs are ARCHIVED! Every. Single. One. Unedited.

34 erik_t  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:30:32pm

re: #33 Kid A

Well, obviously Souza is just in on the Conspiracy. /

35 Kid Skeeter  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:30:56pm

re: #34 erik_t

Well, obviously Souza is just in on the conspiracy. /

LOL

36 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:31:36pm

re: #15 BongCrodny

The tickets would read “Flinging Poo and Spinal Tap.”

Does that mean that the wingnuts in question are expected to lick Jim Hoft’s love pump?

[dives into bunker]

37 erik_t  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:32:00pm

EIMF’d up there. It’s not serious until you capitalize it. He’s in on the Conspiracy.

There, that looks better.

38 Ghost of Sionainn  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:32:04pm

re: #33 Kid A

Do any of these idiots on the right understand that every single photograph shot by WH photographer Pete Souza are UNEDITED. That’s right, under FEDERAL LAW, every single frame Souza has shot since Obama became POTUS are archived, unedited, not touched, not Photoshopped. That means he can not dump pictures that he does not like. All original files you wingnut jerkoffs are ARCHIVED! Every. Single. One. Unedited.

I did not know that.

39 Ghost of Sionainn  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:32:25pm

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

Does that mean that the wingnuts in question are expected to lick Jim Hoft’s love pump?

[dives into bunker]

Ewwww.

40 Amory Blaine  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:33:03pm

Love Pump. Now that’s a name for a band.

41 BongCrodny  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:33:30pm

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

Does that mean that the wingnuts in question are expected to lick Jim Hoft’s love pump?

[dives into bunker]

Those are five words I never again want to see together in a sentence.

42 Kid Skeeter  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:33:45pm

Love Pump! Baby, Love Pump! Love Pump, baby!!!

43 nines09  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:34:26pm

As every gun expert knows; Every shotgun acts the same. Twits.

44 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:35:45pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Yeah I remember hearing about that. What the fucking fuck.

One of my favorite pages from Conservapedia is the page titled Counterexamples to Relativity. Examples include:

1.Computer simulations based on the theory of relativity predict far more black holes than are observed.[1] Indeed, it is debatable whether black holes exist at all.

16. The action-at-a-distance by Jesus, described in John 4:46-54, Matthew 15:28, and Matthew 27:51.

37. In Genesis 1:6-8, we are told that one of God’s first creations was a firmament in the heavens. This likely refers to the creation of the luminiferous aether.

39. Despite a century of wasting billions of dollars in work on the theory, “No one knows how to solve completely the equations of general relativity that describe gravity; they are simply beyond current understanding.”[20]

44. Scientists are unable to explain a June 2012 cluster of earthquakes in Ireland.[26]

47. General Relativity fails to predict the Allais Effect. The Christian researcher and economist Maurice Allais noted a sudden change in the orientation of a swinging pendulum during the 1959 solar eclipse.[28] Many subsequent attempts to duplicate the result have been reported as failures, consistent with an concerted effort to suppress knowledge about the phenomenon.

YOU CAN’T EXPLAIN THAT

45 BongCrodny  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:35:45pm

re: #42 Kid A

Love Pump! Baby, Love Pump! Love Pump, baby!!!

Love Pumps would also be a pretty good name for women’s shoes.

46 steve_davis  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:36:13pm

Had this conversation with a nut on Huff Post. The reason he has the butt of the shotgun in a slightly awkward spot of his shoulder is because he’s wearing a vest under his shirt, and the reason he’s wearing a vest under his shirt is because the Secret Service doesn’t want to have to explain to a congressional committee why the president was accidentally killed by someone at Camp David while they were all firing shotguns. At least, this is my guess, because the president is way too buff to have that pot-bulge down there at the bottom of the shirt.

47 anonymous gun expert  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:36:15pm

re: #43 nines09

As every anonymous expert knows; Every shotgun acts the same. Twits.

Fixed

48 erik_t  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:37:24pm
47. General Relativity fails to predict the Allais Effect. The Christian researcher and economist Maurice Allais noted a sudden change in the orientation of a swinging pendulum during the 1959 solar eclipse.[28] Many subsequent attempts to duplicate the result have been reported as failures, consistent with an concerted effort to suppress knowledge about the phenomenon.

That has to be a joke. Nonrepeatability is proof of the conspiracy.

These people are too stupid for this planet.

49 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:37:39pm

re: #44 dragonath

One of my favorite pages from Conservapedia is the page titled Counterexamples to Relativity. Examples include:

I feel dumber for having read that. Really there is no evidence for the existence of black holes? But yeah let’s take the Bible word for word!

50 lawhawk  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:38:07pm

Every President since FDR has gone to Camp David to escape the press and media coverage (and on occasion to wine and dine foreign dignitaries or conduct policy sessions in private). It’s a safe haven and refuge for them and their families. Presidents will take advantage of every opportunity they can to get out of the WH - whether it’s to go to their own homes or ranches (Reagan, GWB), visit their favorite spots (GHWB, Clinton), and or Camp David.

The benefit from being at Camp David is the seclusion that it provides, and the ability for the president and his family to relax and partake in whatever activities they want.

That includes skeet shooting, riding horses, golf, tennis, etc.

But for Kessler and the rest of the wingnuts, a single photo will never be sufficient. Dozens of photos wont. Not even video. For them, nothing will ever be satisfying - because they’ve already ruled out the possibility that he’s said and done exactly what he did.

And for the record, I’m still waiting to see video proof that Kessler wrote these items himself. /

51 steve_davis  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:38:29pm

re: #2 erik_t

and the picture isn’t from Camp David. The president is firing on some attendants at the Glenn Beck Washington rally from the White House portico.

52 mr.fusion  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:38:31pm

Now here’s how you shoot:

53 anonymous gun expert  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:38:50pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

I feel dumber for having read that. Really there is no evidence for the existence of black holes? But yeah let’s take the Bible word for word!

If Black Holes exist, how come we can’t see them?

54 The Mountain That Blogs  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:39:28pm

re: #44 dragonath

[Link: xkcd.com…]

Now I’m reading conservapedia’s page on evolution. Thanks a lot.

55 Kid Skeeter  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:40:54pm

Did The Onion invent Conservapedia?

56 Kid Skeeter  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:41:44pm

re: #54 The Mountain That Blogs

[Link: xkcd.com…]

Now I’m reading conservapedia’s page on evolution. Thanks a lot.

Did you see their slogan? “Conservapedia: The Trustworthy Encyclopedia.”

Yes, really.

57 stabby  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:42:41pm

re: #44 dragonath

I was just reading that the guy who runs conservapedia mocks the idea of complex numbers… I think I also remember that they hate some other rather accessible deeper math, maybe it was Cantor’s stuff. He’s opined before that math and physics are to be resisted because boys who get interested in those topics stop being interested in the Bible.

That reminds me of a topic I just found out about. Something similar to complex numbers called dual numbers.

Based on ε where ε2 = 0

If you work it out you get arithmetic where as you do it, you calculate both the value and the first derivative of any function.

It’s possible to come up with systems that automatically calculate higher derivatives but that gets complicated quickly.

58 Kid Skeeter  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:43:17pm

Conservapedia on homosexuality:

Causes of homosexuality - Biblical explanation

The Bible, being the most comprehensive transcendent moral authority, abundantly deals with human nature and behavior and consistently manifests that the nature of man has not changed since the Fall. So the Bible is certainly the preeminent authoritative source when it comes to providing a framework when determining the causes of homosexuality. Man is shown to have been created as a perfectly made being (Gn. 1:31) - yet not as a robot - but as a being designed to be able to make choices, which thereby allowed him to distort his perfection. God from the beginning also joined male and female in life-long marriage, and placed a priority on the family, and provided laws, as needed, for its health and preservation and that of society, while aberrations result from failure to abide by them.

59 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:43:26pm

re: #55 Kid A

Did The Onion invent Conservapedia?

That would actually make sense. But no Conservapedia was invented to create an alternative to the “liberal bias” on wikipedia which kind of proves the old adage about reality having a liberal bias some sense since anyone- liberal, conservative,whatever can edit a wiki page. I read a story the other day on facebook about how some Tea Party group wants to create a conservative alternative to facebook because they don’t like being made fun of by the meanie liberals on facebook. What’s next guys” A youtube like site for only conservatives? Talk about lame.

60 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:45:03pm

re: #42 Kid A

Love Pump! Baby, Love Pump! Love Pump, baby!!!

Sorry, but mentioning Spinal Tap begged for a joke like that.

61 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:45:03pm

Counterexamples to the Bible

There are no Counterexamples to the Bible. This is in contrast with:
Counterexamples to Evolution (60 and growing)
Counterexamples to Relativity (39 and growing)
Counterexamples to an Old Earth (43 and growing)
Counterexamples to Global Warming (under construction; 6 and growing)

62 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:45:54pm

re: #58 Kid A

Conservapedia on homosexuality:

Created perfectly, so all those congenital diseases and birth defects are a matter of choice, or are they a punishment for sins committed before birth?

63 BongCrodny  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:46:34pm

re: #56 Kid A

Did you see their slogan? “Conservapedia: The Trustworthy Encyclopedia.”

Yes, really.

Those people must all be twelve years old.

Here’s a heading under the “Conservative Humor” category. I kid you not:

Obese atheists and overweight atheists comedy and satire

64 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:46:38pm

I love how “science can’t be proven”. Oh but the word of a book written thousands of years ago and translated a gazillion times since then can be? I understand faith but come on there’s gotta be room for reason somewhere. And if these people really wanted to live by the Bible, they’d renounce their modern possessions and live how people did back then.

65 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:46:41pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

That would actually make sense. But no Conservapedia was invented to create an alternative to the “liberal bias” on wikipedia which kind of proves the old adage about reality having a liberal bias some sense since anyone- liberal, conservative,whatever can edit a wiki page. I read a story the other day on facebook about how some Tea Party group wants to create a conservative alternative to facebook because they don’t like being made fun of by the meanie liberals on facebook. What’s next guys” A youtube like site for only conservatives? Talk about lame.

They need their own Twitter that nobody can ever get thrown off of as long as they used the proper hashtag

66 Kid Skeeter  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:47:00pm

“Liberal Denial”: Link

67 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:47:27pm

Kessler has now updated his update, with a distinct aroma of butthurt:

UPDATE: As one might expect, there is a vast divide on this, with some readers upset that we did not immediately change our ruling because the president released a photo, as we had requested in our original column. We try not to make snap judgements, but readers argued we had moved the goal posts. Well, a case could be made that we had. (See first update.)

We certainly appreciate all of the commentary we received on this column. Many readers initially were upset that we did not immediately award Pinocchios, but now a new wave of readers has condemned us for even thinking this was worthy of serious inquiry. On the last point, we respectively disagree. All statements by public figures are subject to scrutiny. The president made an unexpected claim, and for nearly a week the White House refused to back it up.

So we now have a photo, a news report quoting an anonymous source that the president participated in a Marine guard competition and a news report quoting Obama that he has practiced with the Secret Service. The issue is settled, and we award the president a Geppetto Checkmark.

68 stabby  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:47:47pm

Conservapedia on Cantor’s diagonalization proof:

Some have cited diagonalization as a formal challenge to Saint Anselm’s ontological argument for the existence of God. In summary, Anselm argued that there must be a greatest idea and what could be greater than God? Therefore God exists.[2]

However, diagonalization argues that no greatest idea can exist: quite bluntly, God is infinite, therefore He can be diagonalized to produce an even greater infinite.[3]

69 The Mountain That Blogs  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:49:39pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

That would actually make sense. But no Conservapedia was invented to create an alternative to the “liberal bias” on wikipedia which kind of proves the old adage about reality having a liberal bias some sense since anyone- liberal, conservative,whatever can edit a wiki page. I read a story the other day on facebook about how some Tea Party group wants to create a conservative alternative to facebook because they don’t like being made fun of by the meanie liberals on facebook. What’s next guys” A youtube like site for only conservatives? Talk about lame.

They did. It’s called QubeTV. This clip is from five years ago: [Link: videosift.com…]

70 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:49:46pm
71 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:49:50pm
…now a new wave of readers has condemned us for even thinking this was worthy of serious inquiry…

Lol.

72 stabby  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:49:53pm

They seem to be claiming that all mathematicians are deeply religious..

Kurt Gödel, deeply religious? If he read the bible all the time, then he was probably looking for loopholes, the same thing he did when he read the constitution. That’s how his mind worked.

73 iceweasel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:50:04pm
TOTAL FAKE..

Here’s why.
Cheek pressed against a fired
shot gun doesn’t fare well.

The wingnut free verse is fucking hilarious!

74 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:50:07pm

Biblical scientific foreknowledge

Jesus’s recognition that the truth would remain hidden from arrogant intellectuals while simultaneously revealed to humbler, openminded people.

World obesity epidemic and obesity problem within the atheist population

Jeanne Calment lived to age 122, only two years past 120. She was said to have never worked and used olive oil on her skin, outliving all of of her feminist counterparts.

trololo

75 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:50:28pm

re: #69 The Mountain That Blogs

They did. It’s called QubeTV. This clip is from five years ago: [Link: videosift.com…]

Okay I want to weep now.

76 iceweasel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:51:32pm
“next to of course god america i
love you land of the pilgrims’ and so forth oh
say can you see by the dawn’s early my
country ‘tis of centuries come and go
and are no more what of it we should worry
in every language even deafanddumb
thy sons acclaim your glorious name by gorry
by jingo by gee by gosh by gum
why talk of beauty what could be more beaut-
iful than these heroic happy dead
who rushed like lions to the roaring slaughter
they did not stop to think they died instead
then shall the voice of liberty be mute?”

He spoke. And drank rapidly a glass of water

77 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:52:51pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Kessler has now updated his update, with a distinct aroma of butthurt:

Iceweasel’s got the best Butthurt Detector, but speaking for myself I think its less butthurt and more someone whose post caught it from both sides and is posting an update with the feeling of “There, satisfied now?!”

78 Ghost of Sionainn  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:53:42pm

re: #70 Sol Berdinowitz

Protect our children!

For fuck’s sake. No school can afford those things. So stupid.

79 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:54:16pm

re: #74 dragonath

Biblical scientific foreknowledge

trololo

What the fuck are they talking about in regards to obesity and atheists? They do know that the Bible belt includes some of the fattest cities in the country. And I won’t even touch the Calment one. Oh, wow a French woman born in the 1870’s never worked and she’s also the longest lived human being ever recorded so therefore feminism is invalidated. Did Phyilis Schalfry drop Andy as a kid as a baby because the stuff written on his website really makes me wonder if he’s the real life personification of Brick Tamland from Anchorman.

80 A Mom Anon  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:55:25pm

re: #78 Sionainn

Tonight on the local news they’re going to be testing the bulletproof backpacks some scam artist is selling to scared parents.

Have I mentioned that our media totally sucks? Is there even such a thing as actual journalism school anymore?

81 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:57:10pm
82 BongCrodny  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:57:31pm

re: #75 HappyWarrior

Okay I want to weep now.

Conservapedia: Over 450 million page views.

Me, too.

83 lawhawk  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:57:34pm

re: #77 Dark_Falcon

Satisfied? Nope. He was wrong, and as Obama has done before, he’s strung out those who claimed he was doing something or acting in some fashion (and yeah, I’m thinking of the birthers), and then produced results that conclusively show that he did the stated activity.

A reasonable person would conclude that the event happened.

Kessler, and the rest of the wingnuts, are anything but reasonable. They’ve become blinded by the all encompassing anti-Obama agenda.

84 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:58:15pm

re: #80 A Mom Anon

Have I mentioned that our media totally sucks? Is there even such a thing as actual journalism school anymore?

If there were enough demand for serious journalism, there would be people out there to answer it. But most people do not know what serious journalism looks like, they just want confirmatino of their preconceived notions.

85 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:58:29pm

re: #82 BongCrodny

Me, too.

I do think a lot of those are people who want a good laugh. But I am just imagining some right wing idiot using it as a source on a research paper.

86 stabby  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 1:59:21pm
But non-elementary proofs link these subjects in a non-elementary way, which casts some doubt if they are really connected. If they are real-ly connected, then the link should be evident using real numbers and without resorting to complex numbers, or the Axiom of Choice or any of these other “additions” to mathematics that do not reflect the real world. The one good that I can attribute to a non-elementary proof is that it will make mathematicians search for an elementary proof of the same theorem. With some ingenuity they may find one, as Erdos and Selberg did with the Prime Number Theorem. -Foxtrot 23:03, 12 September 2008 (EDT)

From [Link: conservapedia.com…]

87 Velvet Elvis  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:00:00pm
88 erik_t  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:00:10pm
The president made an unexpected claim, and for nearly a week the White House refused to back it up.

Kessler, if this is what you think is your purpose on this Earth, then I truly pity you.

89 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:00:19pm

re: #79 HappyWarrior

Ya know, the fact that Phyllis Schlafy was popular among conservatives 40, 50 years ago tells me these people were wacky even back then.

90 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:02:07pm

Just got a call from the NRA asking for money.

91 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:02:12pm

re: #89 dragonath

Ya know, the fact that Phyllis Schlafy was popular among conservatives 40, 50 years ago tells me these people were wacky even back then.

Goes without saying honestly. I do wonder though what she thought of her hero Barry Goldwater ending up being pro choice and pro gay rights though.

92 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:02:39pm

re: #90 jaunte

Just got a call from the NRA asking for money.

Someone’s got to pay for Wayne LaPierre’s diapers.

93 iceweasel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:02:59pm

re: #82 BongCrodny

Conservapedia: Over 450 million page views.

Me, too.

Oh don’t be sad. Most of those views are probably coming from liberals who are laughing at their ‘definitions’—when they’re not actively subverting them.

94 erik_t  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:03:13pm

re: #90 jaunte

Just got a call from the NRA asking for money.

Into how many splinters did the handset shatter?

95 TedStriker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:03:46pm

re: #92 HappyWarrior

Someone’s got to pay for Wayne LaPierre’s diapers.

As well as his hookers and blow.

96 Cap'n Magic  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:04:18pm

Hoft is a certified asshole.

97 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:04:32pm

re: #94 erik_t

I told them I was Photoshopping with my left hand, so, too busy.

98 TedStriker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:07:26pm

re: #94 erik_t

Into how many splinters did the handset shatter?

It asploded, I’m sure.

99 TedStriker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:08:48pm

re: #96 Cap’n Magic

Hoft is a certified asshole.

This is new, how?

///

100 Interesting Times  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:10:22pm

I believe people were discussing this site downstairs:

Revelation as unexpected as foul smells from a sewer.

101 JeffFX  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:10:35pm

re: #63 BongCrodny

Those people must all be twelve years old.

Here’s a heading under the “Conservative Humor” category. I kid you not:

Social Conservatism is one symptom of arrested development.

102 Jimmah  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:12:22pm

I’ve heard of transubstantiation, but this is pushing it a bit

Pret withdraws ‘Virgin Mary’ crisps

Maybe I need to abandon my idea for communion flavour crisps. ( “I can’t believe it’s not Jesus!”)

103 iceweasel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:12:22pm

re: #101 JeffFX

Social Conservatism is one symptom of arrested development.

Arrested Development was way funnier.

104 ReamWorks SKG  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:14:19pm

re: #23 dragonath

Hell conservapedia doesn’t even believe in the theory of relativity.

That’s because it was invented by the Jooz!

BTW: I haven’t looked at the Conservapedia in a long time, so I thought I’d take a look. The first article I clicked on is hilarious:

[Link: www.conservapedia.com…]

105 Jimmah  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:16:21pm

re: #104 ReamWorks SKG

That’s because it was invented by the Jooz!

Einstein was not only a true believer but also a devout catholic, like Darwin - is what I’d expect from conservapedia.

106 stabby  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:16:33pm

re: #104 ReamWorks SKG

It’s because it’s too interesting and engrossing to imagine the curvature of space and time and how that relates to events and gravity etc.

They have to eliminate everything that’s fascinating about science to keep kids from jumping from their empty headed bullshit into things that are deep and interesting.

107 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:17:33pm

re: #100 Interesting Times

I believe people were discussing this site downstairs:

Revelation as unexpected as foul smells from a sewer.

Yeah. Pretty funny stuff. I still like the actual communities that are planned for only people of a certain ideology because separating yourself from all people not like you is the mature response to that.

108 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:18:05pm

re: #105 Jimmah

Einstein was not only a true believer but also a devout catholic, like Darwin - is what I’d expect from conservapedia.

Conservapedia already has that covered!

History
That America’s founding fathers were devout Christians.
That successful democracy, both historically and logically, is the result of Protestant Christianity

109 Interesting Times  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:18:05pm
110 stabby  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:18:13pm

One of the things about special relativity is that it’s very accessible.

For instance if you start with one of Einstein’s thought experiments, it’s actually pretty easy to derive the lorentz transformation and come up with special relativity.

111 iceweasel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:19:11pm

re: #108 dragonath

Conservapedia already has that covered!

History
That America’s founding fathers were devout Christians.
That successful democracy, both historically and logically, is the result of Protestant Christianity

oh that makes me SICK

112 austin_blue  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:19:26pm

OT, but not a surprise:

[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com…]

Obama forced him to it!

113 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:20:53pm

re: #108 dragonath

Conservapedia already has that covered!

Yeah because Cromwell’s England was soooooo Democratic. Stupid Protestant supremacists. Apologies to any Protestants here but damn that’s an anti-Catholic dog whistle if I ever saw one.

114 iceweasel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:21:46pm

re: #110 stabby

One of the things about special relativity is that it’s very accessible.

For instance if you start with one of Einstein’s thought experiments, it’s actually pretty easy to derive the lorentz transformation and come up with special relativity.

I award you this round of Smartest Person on the Interwebz.

There will be a new winner, somewhere, in the nest 60 seconds.

115 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:23:12pm

re: #111 iceweasel

oh that makes me SICK

I’d love to ask them if Protestant Christianity is the reason why Democracy exists, why did it take over 200 years after Luther for there to be democracies? Oh yeah that whole Age of Reason thing which placed the value of the individual above the value of the church. Fuckers.

116 iceweasel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:24:24pm

re: #115 HappyWarrior

I’d love to ask them if Protestant Christianity is the reason why Democracy exists, why did it take over 200 years after Luther for there to be democracies? Oh yeah that whole Age of Reason thing which placed the value of the individual above the value of the church. Fuckers.

Tell me the story again about the Greeks! How does that go now? They were all devout christians too?

117 Interesting Times  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:24:48pm

Unsurprisingly, the person who uploaded this picture to STFU, Conservatives, unfriended the individual who unironically posted it on facebook in the first place:

Chart of a woman’s proper place

118 stabby  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:25:10pm

re: #114 iceweasel

I did do that once.

Imagine two points moving past each other. Simplify the situation to 2 dimentions.

At the moment they touch give off a photon - imagine it as a circle spreading outward.

Now you have to tilt space and time and stretch it so that from the point of view of both points, each point remains in the center of the spreading circle of light even as they pass each other. You’re cutting a cone at an angle and you’re stretching it to turn an ellipse into a circle.

119 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:25:16pm

re: #116 iceweasel

Tell me the story again about the Greeks! How does that go now? They were all devout christians too?

Aristotle regularly quoted the Bible as did Socrates and Plato. And Pericles was a minister who hated gay people.

120 austin_blue  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:25:27pm

Obscure Clue of the Day in today’s NYT X-word:

Title under which “The Lion Sleeps Tonight” originally charted, in 1952.

Tough puzzle. Forty minutes.

121 Jimmah  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:26:02pm

re: #114 iceweasel

I award you this round of Smartest Person on the Interwebz.

There will be a new winner, somewhere, in the nest 60 seconds.

I always thought that once you’ve noticed the Mercury anomaly, the rest just kinda follows. Sorta obvious really.//

122 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:26:10pm

re: #117 Interesting Times

It’s umbrellas all the way down.

123 ReamWorks SKG  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:26:24pm

re: #120 austin_blue

Obscure Clue of the Day in today’s NYT X-word:

Title under which “The Lion Sleeps Tonight” originally charted, in 1952.

Tough puzzle. Forty minutes.

WIMOWEH? (by the Weavers?)

124 Ghost of a Dopefish  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:26:59pm

On a slightly related topic, is it just me, or does the President look perfectly at home with the long iron in the picture from the previous thread? That’s a great action shot of him firing.

125 Interesting Times  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:28:11pm

A certain ex-presidential candidate haz a sad:

126 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:28:26pm

re: #124 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

On a slightly related topic, is it just me, or does the President look perfectly at home with the long iron in the picture from the previous thread? That’s a great action shot of him firing.

Looks like he’s done it before. In the photos that were taken of me firing for the first time, it’s pretty obvious that I’m a first timer.

127 stabby  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:28:29pm

The cone, is the ripple that the (2D) light gives off plotted over time… So you’re cutting spacetime at an angle to space and time.

128 ReamWorks SKG  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:28:36pm

Much as I hate to give P*te S**ger a YouTube View:

129 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:29:01pm

re: #125 Interesting Times

A certain ex-presidential candidate haz a sad:

One of the best toys ever, right next to silly putty.

130 Ghost of a Dopefish  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:29:51pm

re: #126 HappyWarrior

Looks like he’s done it before. In the photos that were taken of me firing for the first time, it’s pretty obvious that I’m a first timer.

COMMUNIST.

131 Interesting Times  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:30:09pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

One of the best toys ever, right next to silly putty.

Which, by fantastic coincidence, is also analogous to the same ex-presidential candidate’s consistency.

132 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:30:43pm

re: #130 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

We prefer to be called Persons who believe in collectivization, thank you! Okay, not actually a commie but I wanted to think of a really PC way of saying communist.

133 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:30:44pm

re: #120 austin_blue

Obscure Clue of the Day in today’s NYT X-word:

Title under which “The Lion Sleeps Tonight” originally charted, in 1952.

Tough puzzle. Forty minutes.

Crap, I know this one. I know that the guy who wrote it was African, and he got paid one pound to write it. I think his wife or daughter successfully sued for the Broadway rights, at least got a nice big settlement.

134 austin_blue  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:31:07pm

re: #123 ReamWorks SKG

WIMOWEH? (by the Weavers?)

Dingdingding!

I anoint thee the smartest human on the interwebs!

135 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:31:34pm

mbube- solomon linda and the evening birds

136 iceweasel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:31:42pm

re: #117 Interesting Times

Unsurprisingly, the person who uploaded this picture to STFU, Conservatives, unfriended the individual who unironically posted it on facebook in the first place:

Chart of a woman’s proper place

Jimmah says, and I quote, : “This looks like the kind of Christo-Irish stuff we were brought up with.”

(Jimmah and I are both Irish by way of our grandparents— his went to Scotland, mine to America. We also suspect that someone in his family stole a sheep from someone in my family back then.)

137 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:31:44pm

re: #131 Interesting Times

Which, by fantastic coincidence, is also analogous to the same ex-presidential candidate’s consistency.

So what you’re saying is that Obama is a Kenyan? :)

138 ReamWorks SKG  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:32:12pm

Ok! I’m done with lunch! Back to practicing the Piano for the rest of the day.

140 Ghost of a Dopefish  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:32:42pm

re: #136 iceweasel

Jimmah says, and I quote, : “This looks like the kind of Christo-Irish stuff we were brought up with.”

(Jimmah and I are both Irish by way of our grandparents— his went to Scotland, mine to America. We also suspect that someone in his family stole a sheep from someone in my family back then.)

Hi {ice}. Yeah, that’s probably going to pop up on my FB feed sometime soon, if I had to guess. How are things across the pond?

141 iceweasel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:34:50pm

re: #140 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

Hi {ice}. Yeah, that’s probably going to pop up on my FB feed sometime soon, if I had to guess. How are things across the pond?

Hello fishie! things are pretty good here, how are you and the mrs fish and the spawn? Hope life is beautiful in the wild north country.

142 jaunte  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:35:26pm
143 Ghost of a Dopefish  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:35:42pm

re: #141 iceweasel

Hello fishie! things are pretty good here, how are you and the mrs fish and the spawn? Hope life is beautiful in the wild north country.

It is cold, but things are good. The fishspawn is walking and starting to talk, and we’re eagerly awaiting Fishspawn Episode II, due in early May.

144 TedStriker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:35:57pm

re: #136 iceweasel

Jimmah says, and I quote, : “This looks like the kind of Christo-Irish stuff we were brought up with.”

(Jimmah and I are both Irish by way of our grandparents— his went to Scotland, mine to America. We also suspect that someone in his family stole a sheep from someone in my family back then.)

Or had their way with said sheep.

///

145 Ghost of a Dopefish  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:36:51pm

re: #144 TedStriker

Or had their way with said sheep.

///

This reminds me of an old, stupid joke:

The Australians claim that the New Zealanders are shagging the sheep. The Kiwis claim the Aussies are shagging the sheep. Myself, I suspect it’s the sheep that are the sluts.

146 Interesting Times  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:38:55pm

re: #136 iceweasel

Jimmah says, and I quote, : “This looks like the kind of Christo-Irish stuff we were brought up with.”

The STFU, Conservatives person says it’s at least a century old. Ergo, the reason GOP base members seek to exhume it now.

147 palomino  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:40:19pm

Maybe he should take up Rep. Blackburn on her skeet shooting challenge. He’ll probably lose (she has the advantage of being a “lifelong varmint hunter”, just like Mitt Romney), but it would show what a good sport he is, and further drive home the obvious fact that his haters on the right are incorrigible fanatics.

“He got bin Laden, but he didn’t do it right. He shoots a gun, but he’s not as good as a military trained sniper.” Once they decided they hated him (about 2 seconds after he announced his candidacy in 2007), everything had to be molded to fit the story that he’s a phony and wants to be a dictator.

Jesus, even Michelle elicits the same passionate hatred, and all she did was say that maybe fat people should eat more veggies.

148 iceweasel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:40:39pm

re: #117 Interesting Times

Unsurprisingly, the person who uploaded this picture to STFU, Conservatives, unfriended the individual who unironically posted it on facebook in the first place:

Chart of a woman’s proper place

BTW, link bookmarked!

149 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:43:43pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Kessler has now updated his update, with a distinct aroma of butthurt:

Some fact checker. I’ll be ignoring this one from now on. Sheesh, he & Rubin alone are enough to make me begin to have misgivings about the WaPo.

150 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:45:10pm

re: #149 CuriousLurker

Some fact checker. I’ll be ignoring this one from now on. Sheesh, he & Rubin alone are enough to make me begin to have misgivings about the WaPo.

It’s even more funny considering that a lot of nutcases think the Post is a “Commie paper.” Yeah that’s why Jen Rubin works for them and Krauthammer’s nonsense is published by them.

151 stabby  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:45:57pm

Conservatives like their manipulation maximal, like the story of heaven and hell. Fail to toe the line and you’ll be tortured forever!!!! Conform and you’ll be blissful forever!!!

Not just blatant manipulation but maximal blatant manipulation.

Now apply that principle TO EVERYTHING. If you do something that will inconvenience them slightly (such as pay for social security for non-white, non-christians) then you are a communist who is trying to destroy christianity and the west … MAXIMAL manipulation. Maximum demonization. THAT’S the pattern.

152 iceweasel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:46:29pm

re: #150 HappyWarrior

It’s even more funny considering that a lot of nutcases think the Post is a “Commie paper.” Yeah that’s why Jen Rubin works for them and Krauthammer’s nonsense is published by them.

Exactly. Some “liberal” paper.

153 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:47:04pm

re: #152 iceweasel

Exactly. Some “liberal” paper.

But they were mean to poor Nixon. Watergate wasn’t a big deal!//

154 Jimmah  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:47:07pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Kessler has now updated his update, with a distinct aroma of butthurt:

Upding for the use of “butthurt”.

155 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:49:44pm

I swear to some folks anything even remotely left wing or non right wing is commie. Still laugh at the nutjobs who in 2008 thought Ron Paul was somehow a leftist because of his foreign policy views. Or that being pro gay rights= communist.

156 iceweasel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:49:51pm

re: #151 stabby

Conservatives like their manipulation maximal, like the story of heaven and hell. Fail to toe the line and you’ll be tortured forever!!!! Conform and you’ll be blissful forever!!!

Not just blatant manipulation but maximal blatant manipulation.

Now apply that principle TO EVERYTHING. If you do something that will inconvenience them slightly (such as pay for social security for non-white, non-christians) then you are a communist who is trying to destroy christianity and the west … MAXIMAL manipulation. Maximum demonization. THAT’S the pattern.

You’re right:

The paranoid spokesman sees the fate of conspiracy in apocalyptic terms—he traffics in the birth and death of whole worlds, whole political orders, whole systems of human values. He is always manning the barricades of civilization. He constantly lives at a turning point. Like religious millenialists he expresses the anxiety of those who are living through the last days and he is sometimes disposed to set a date fort the apocalypse. (“Time is running out,” said Welch in 1951. “Evidence is piling up on many sides and from many sources that October 1952 is the fatal month when Stalin will attack.”)

Paranoid Style in American Politics

157 Jimmah  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:50:47pm

re: #144 TedStriker

Or had their way with said sheep.

///

Or maybe the sheep had their way with them.

Maybe they’ve been getting away with this sort of thing for centuries…

158 Ghost of a Dopefish  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:51:10pm

re: #155 HappyWarrior

I swear to some folks anything even remotely left wing or non right wing is commie. Still laugh at the nutjobs who in 2008 thought Ron Paul was somehow a leftist because of his foreign policy views. Or that being pro gay rights= communist.

To the paranoid, anyone who isn’t equally paranoid is obviously “teh enemy”.

159 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:52:19pm

re: #158 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

To the paranoid, anyone who isn’t equally paranoid is obviously “teh enemy”.

Yeah, if you don’t believe the conspiracy, you’re in on it, you illuminanti Bilderberger Freemason commie!

160 iceweasel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:52:54pm

re: #143 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

It is cold, but things are good. The fishspawn is walking and starting to talk, and we’re eagerly awaiting Fishspawn Episode II, due in early May.

AWESOME! Congatulations!

161 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:53:51pm

re: #150 HappyWarrior

It’s even more funny considering that a lot of nutcases think the Post is a “Commie paper.” Yeah that’s why Jen Rubin works for them and Krauthammer’s nonsense is published by them.

Sometimes I have to wonder if the White House doesn’t do this on purpose to make the wingnuts look stupid(er). Y’know, like they know the blogosphere, social media, etc. will pounce on just about anything, so they snicker and go, “Okay, let’s let POTUS’s say he’s shot a gun, then refuse to release a photo for several days and see how much of an incoherent frenzy they can work themselves into.” And the wingnuts oblige. Every. Single. Time.

162 austin_blue  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:54:01pm

re: #157 Jimmah

Or maybe the sheep had their way with them.

Maybe they’ve been getting away with this sort of thing for centuries…

“Maybe if we screw them they’ll stop eating our young and cutting all our hair off!”

Ummm…not so much.

163 Amory Blaine  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:54:25pm

Mmm. Warm bagel topped with cream cheese and lox.

164 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:54:36pm

re: #161 CuriousLurker

Sometimes I have to wonder if the White House doesn’t do this on purpose to make the wingnuts look stupid(er). Y’know, like they know the blogosphere, social media, etc. will pounce on just about anything, so they snicker and go, “Okay, let’s let POTUS’s say he’s shot a gun, then refuse to release a photo for several days and see how much of an incoherent frenzy they can work themselves into.” And the wingnuts oblige. Every. Single. Time.

Probably. We know that POTUS gets a good laugh out of the birthers.

165 engineer cat  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:55:07pm

i am not the boss of me

166 stabby  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:55:42pm

re: #156 iceweasel

Also, like the Bible, you can’t derive that sort of nonsense from reality. One needs a bullshit source of authority to support the manipulative style. So the need for authority is part of this.

That is also a reason that the constitution is so often sited, even though the actual legal USE of the constitution is slighted. It’s old, it’s on paper, it has authority.

167 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:56:25pm

These gun nuts are gun illiterates.

The force of a gun’s recoil is equal to the force of the shot going in the opposite direction; Newton et al. The velocity of recoil is obviously much lower because the gun is much heavier. This is a good thing since you don’t want a 7 pound shotgun driving into your shoulder at 2000 fps. Unless the GOP Congress has repealed the laws of motion, the gun has started to recoil in the photo and that is why Obama does not appear to be leaning into the shot. The shot itself is well downrange at the instant of the photo, as indicated by the smoke plumes beginning to disperse. The idiot who thought that “smokeless” powder literally produces no smoke should be barred from visiting any shooting range until he demonstrates a basic grasp of at least the elementary facts.

168 engineer cat  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:56:56pm

panzy

that’s the nickname i gave my panzer

169 Ghost of a Dopefish  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:57:01pm

re: #164 HappyWarrior

Probably. We know that POTUS gets a good laugh out of the birthers.

Speaking of birthers, I heard over on The Fogbow that our favorite Birther queen Orly is undergoing another round of hot water from the courts. This time, she was actually sanctioned $4000 for wasting the court’s time, and now there is an Order to Show Cause in another case because, when asked directly by the judge if she had been sanctioned, she said nothing. The judge was clearly very nonplussed and directly accused her of lying to the court.

170 iceweasel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:57:36pm

re: #166 stabby

Also, like the Bible, you can’t derive that sort of nonsense from reality. One needs a bullshit source of authority to support the manipulative style. So the need for authority is part of this.

That is also a reason that the constitution is so often sited, even though the actual legal USE of the constitution is slighted. It’s old, it’s on paper, it has authority.

Authoritarianism is a crucial part of the wingnut mindset. Authoritarians can exist on the left too, but they’re very at home on the right.

171 lawhawk  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:57:40pm

re: #161 CuriousLurker

You’re not the first to think of that (I did earlier in the discussion).

172 engineer cat  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:58:30pm

people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw up on estonians

173 Jimmah  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:58:36pm

The rancidest get gamiest and therefore tastiest nuggets of right wing agony often show up on ‘Weaselzippers’ :

I bet the photo was taken after his announcement that he has shot a gun or they would have released it sooner.
We are supposed to look at this image of him with a gun and… . .
This is a pr stunt to make us think he is qualified to take our guns away from us because… … he didn’t hold the gun stock and shoot himself in the face? ? ? ? ?
This is so insulting. This shows what he thinks of us. We are already sheep in the pen to him. He is just pushing us around in the enclosure for fun.

link: [Link: weaselzippers.us…]

174 stabby  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:58:42pm

re: #161 CuriousLurker

Sometimes I have to wonder if the White House doesn’t do this on purpose to make the wingnuts look stupid(er). Y’know, like they know the blogosphere, social media, etc. will pounce on just about anything, so they snicker and go, “Okay, let’s let POTUS’s say he’s shot a gun, then refuse to release a photo for several days and see how much of an incoherent frenzy they can work themselves into.” And the wingnuts oblige. Every. Single. Time.

It’s a fast way to get banned from Republican sites. Laugh at birtherism and say that the President isn’t to blame for his enemies making laughing stocks out of themselves, and that he was never under any obligation to stop them from destroying themselves. That’s not “divisiveness” it’s just common sense. Why should he stop you from being a moron?

175 Ghost of a Dopefish  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 2:59:03pm

re: #170 iceweasel

Authoritarianism is a crucial part of the wingnut mindset. Authoritarians can exist on the left too, but they’re very at home on the right.

In the case of fundamentalist wingnuts, it’s because they are afraid to live life without the idea of a controlling authority. The very concept of a universe that is governed by absolutely nothing except the random number generator is absolutely terrifying to them.

176 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:00:23pm

re: #30 Sol Berdinowitz

I have a few wing-nuts who are real world friends, via competing at disc golf. It’s one of the things I value most about that sport, the classless camaraderie.

Many of my ~1,450 FB friends otherwise don’t first-hand know that people like them really exist. They tell me often that they are amazed that there are people like that, and amazed that I keep him on. It’s almost as though I am teaching a MOOC about understanding wing-nuts.

We agree on some things, too. Like me, one of the more outspoken ones is unhappy with citizen’s rights and the Patriot Act. And we both think that there should be a lot of finance executives in jail. He’s more unhappy than I am about drone strikes, since I consider them an advance over cruise missiles. He’s also big into the blue helmets thing, and so forth, too. And, of course, loves guns.

Without those folks, I would only know about wing-nuttia from blogs and comments sections on right-wing sites. This way I get to interact direct.

177 stabby  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:00:33pm

re: #175 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

They don’t imagine NO control. To them the alternative to an all controlling God is Satan.

178 Skeetghazi  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:00:34pm

re: #136 iceweasel

Jimmah says, and I quote, : “This looks like the kind of Christo-Irish stuff we were brought up with.”

(Jimmah and I are both Irish by way of our grandparents— his went to Scotland, mine to America. We also suspect that someone in his family stole a sheep from someone in my family back then.)

Hee hee. Most likely, karma is a bitch! Just kidding, hope you guys are great!

179 engineer cat  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:00:48pm

‘panzer’ is of course german for armor

some people seem to have a panzerkopf - a head well armored against information and logic

180 Amory Blaine  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:01:09pm

As firearm sales soar, Wal-Mart rations sale of ammunition

Faced with months of surging demand, Wal-Mart is rationing sales of ammunition.

The nation’s largest retailer is limiting ammunition sales at its stores across the country to three boxes per customer, per day.

Guns and ammunition have been flying off store shelves since President Obama’s reelection in November, and the firearm rush only picked up in the wake of the tragic school shooting in Newtown, Conn., in December.

181 austin_blue  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:01:13pm

Real Madrid lost at Grenada on a Ronaldo own goal.

Hahahahaha!

182 Ghost of a Dopefish  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:01:24pm

re: #177 stabby

They don’t imagine NO control. To them the alternative to an all controlling God is Satan.

Some are able to fathom the concept of no control, but in general, you’re right. Many are unable to even form a concept of non-authority. A lack of God must therefore be Satan.

183 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:02:31pm

re: #171 lawhawk

You’re not the first to think of that (I did earlier in the discussion).

Heh, I figured I wasn’t the only one. POTUS has indeed done it before. He doesn’t even need to discredit them, all he has to do is go about his daily business and wait for them to do it on their own. Good grief.

I can’t wait to read his memoir about his years in the WH.

184 lawhawk  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:02:46pm

re: #169 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

Yeah, she’s been in hot water before, and it’s just amazing that she’s still able to appear before a court in any official capacity. Disbarrment should be in the cards.

She’s got until Feb 4 to submit papers to the court proving she didn’t lie about earlier sanctions.

A copy of the order to show cause.

185 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:04:24pm

I just saw some story about an Iranian Fighter.

Am I right to think that it is BS?

186 stabby  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:04:29pm

re: #175 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

In the case of fundamentalist wingnuts, it’s because they are afraid to live life without the idea of a controlling authority. The very concept of a universe that is governed by absolutely nothing except the random number generator is absolutely terrifying to them.

Another point is this:

These are people who were often punished harshly as young children. Their natural inclination is not to enjoy other people, it’s to hate and fear them.

They need the fear of God in order to keep that deeply ingrained hostility in check. They may actually feel BETTER having their hostility in check, and thus being able to relate to other humans. But that doesn’t mean that they’re capable of controlling it. And one can watch that control, even by terror of God, fail over time.

187 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:04:43pm

re: #175 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

In the case of fundamentalist wingnuts, it’s because they are afraid to live life without the idea of a controlling authority. The very concept of a universe that is governed by absolutely nothing except the random number generator is absolutely terrifying to them.

It is through their submission to authority whereby they derive their identity. Take that away and they have nothing left.

188 lawhawk  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:05:15pm

re: #180 Amory Blaine

It’s a plot.

It’s a trap.

It’s Obama’s fault.

189 engineer cat  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:05:20pm

re: #170 iceweasel

Authoritarianism is a crucial part of the wingnut mindset. Authoritarians can exist on the left too, but they’re very at home on the right.

but also, one of the problems with our political discourse is the intentional fuzzing up and oversimplification of terminology

the axis going from free citizens to the subject of a totalitarian state is completely different than the axis of citizens with no protection from random fate and powerful corporations to a modern society where the citizens have arranged for social insurance and have instituted rules to forestall corporate abuse

jonah goldberg has been a leader in corrupting the terms of debate and introducing ignorance and lies

190 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:06:12pm

re: #5 Dark_Falcon

They wouldn’t be that stupid. Obama fired that gun. He may not do it often (that photo might only have been taken in prep for the fall campaign) but he did fire that gun on that day.

This is a bit late but to have that good of form, he’s got to have put a few flats through that Browning.

191 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:06:25pm

re: #82 BongCrodny

Me, too.

Most of those page views are by people looking for amusement.

192 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:07:47pm

re: #96 Cap’n Magic

Hoft is a certified asshole.

He’s too stupid to be an asshole.

193 austin_blue  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:08:20pm

re: #185 ProBosniaLiberal

I just saw some story about an Iranian Fighter.

Am I right to think that it is BS?

Nope. Doesn’t look like anything I’ve ever seen. The Iranians aren’t idiots, much as we like to think of them as Keystone Kops.

That does *not* mean that they’re new toy is as stealthy as they claim it is, however.

194 engineer cat  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:11:14pm

i saw ‘the passion of ayn rand’ last night on the teevee machine

it’s not bad, and gives a balanced, i think, treatment of rand

on the other hand the bulk of the plot seems to be about how objectivists cheat on their spouses

195 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:12:55pm

re: #185 ProBosniaLiberal

I just saw some story about an Iranian Fighter.

Am I right to think that it is BS?

Yeah, it looks like another fake. My first reaction on seeing it was it just looked oddly small. Here’s a more informed opinion
Iran unveils new indigenous stealth fighter “Qaher 313″. And here’s a detailed analysis.
Probably not even a viable aircraft, just a mock up large scale model designed to look cool.

196 stabby  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:14:04pm

re: #194 engineer cat

Following an empathy and morality-free philosopher who makes greed a positive? Imagine our surprise!

197 Ghost of a Dopefish  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:14:22pm

re: #184 lawhawk

Yeah, she’s been in hot water before, and it’s just amazing that she’s still able to appear before a court in any official capacity. Disbarrment should be in the cards.

She’s got until Feb 4 to submit papers to the court proving she didn’t lie about earlier sanctions.

A copy of the order to show cause.

I have a bit of an issue with the linked article; the Order to Show Cause isn’t for the fact that she’s being sued, because that is the case in which the OSC came up. It’s for the fact that the judge directly asked her if she had been sanctioned in her case against Occidental College and she refused to speak up. Phil Berg then brilliantly spoke up and mentioned that Orly had been sanctioned and had failed to report it to the court, as ordered. She replied that it was merely a “discovery sanction”, but the court discovered otherwise, and now Judge Guilford is MAD.

198 engineer cat  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:15:03pm

re: #192 b_sharp

He’s too stupid to be an asshole.

we must maintain standards!

199 stabby  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:18:24pm

re: #194 engineer cat

My problem with Objectivists and other empathy free people is that I can’t imagine liking someone like that. How can they stand each other? How can they stand themselves? Why would you want to be in the company of heartless creeps?

200 lawhawk  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:23:08pm

re: #185 ProBosniaLiberal

They’ve had a long history of exaggerating claims.

They’re claiming that they’ve gone and created a home grown stealth fighter.

I’m going to lean towards BS, precisely because the Iranians don’t have a home grown aircraft to their name. Their most modern aircraft are primarily Russian in origin and there’s rumors of sales of Chinese fighters, but nothing concrete.

It’s highly unlikely that a country that hasn’t built a home grown fighter, let alone a 4G fighter, will suddenly come out and produce a 5G fighter - there’s a learning curve that comes with working with the kinds of materials and equipment needed to build. And then there’s the issue of the engines - a fighter is only as good as the engines - are they copying a Russian or Chinese design?

201 HappyWarrior  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:24:00pm

re: #199 stabby

My problem with Objectivists and other empathy free people is that I can’t imagine liking someone like that. How can they stand each other? How can they stand themselves? Why would you want to be in the company of heartless creeps?

Imagine the special occasions. “Aw you didn’t buy me anything for our anniversary either because you too think that thinking of others other than yourself is wrong.”

202 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:25:58pm

re: #200 lawhawk

They seem to be desperately trying to raise morale at home, as the sanctions seem to be causing major issues.

203 TedStriker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:27:37pm

re: #200 lawhawk

They’ve had a long history of exaggerating claims.

They’re claiming that they’ve gone and created a home grown stealth fighter.

I’m going to lean towards BS, precisely because the Iranians don’t have a home grown aircraft to their name. Their most modern aircraft are primarily Russian in origin and there’s rumors of sales of Chinese fighters, but nothing concrete.

It’s highly unlikely that a country that hasn’t built a home grown fighter, let alone a 4G fighter, will suddenly come out and produce a 5G fighter - there’s a learning curve that comes with working with the kinds of materials and equipment needed to build. And then there’s the issue of the engines - a fighter is only as good as the engines - are they copying a Russian or Chinese design?

All that look like is a (not even full scale) mockup, trotted out specifically for consumption for Western media; notice the English markings.

204 Targetpractice  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:29:30pm

re: #203 TedStriker

All that look like is a mockup, trotted out specifically for consumption for Western media; notice the English markings.

“We make modern stealth fighter…but 1/4 the size!”

205 Ghost of a Dopefish  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:30:21pm

re: #204 Targetpractice

“We make modern stealth fighter…but 1/4 the size!”

All hat and no cattle.

206 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:32:08pm

re: #203 TedStriker

All that look like is a mockup, trotted out specifically for consumption for Western media; notice the English markings.

It’s so obviously fake that I don’t think they intended it to have any propaganda effect outside Iran. Probably meant for domestic propaganda, national pride and lull people into a sense of security while the regime pushes ahead with nukes and threatening Israel.

207 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:33:00pm

OT (attention political history geeks):

I just received a book I purchased earlier in the week called The Middle East and the United States: History, Politics, and Ideologies by David Lesch. I purposely purchased the 2nd edition (1999) because someone in the reviews said that the newer editions have sacrificed details about early developments in the ME to make room for new stuff (the most recent edition is the 5th, 2011).

Is anyone familiar with this book? It has good reviews and is on the reading list of many polysci professors. Anyway, just curious as it’s so damned hard to find books that treat the history of the ME with any kind of objectivity, and this one seems like it does. The author has also written a book on the Arab-Israeli conflict (2007), but I want to get a handle on the bigger post-WWI picture first.

The very first chapter, about the King-Crane Commission, was something I’d never heard of before, so I’ve learned something already. I’m only on page 14 and have already found this part more than a little depressing:

The first lesson is that in diplomacy, like physics, neutral observers do not exist; rather a world power necessarily influences the object of its interest simply by turning its attention to it, by defining it as a problem to be solved, and then framing the possible terms for its solution.

Ugh. *sigh*

208 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:33:03pm

Teehee.

209 Ghost of a Dopefish  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:33:38pm

re: #208 Gus

Teehee.

{Gus} How are you feeling?

210 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:34:17pm

re: #208 Gus

Teehee.

Taking your happy pills? ;)

211 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:34:37pm

That isn’t a jet fighter it’s a drone, that’s why it’s small, but to reduce costs they don’t pilot it from the ground they put a human inside it.

Or something.

212 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:35:21pm

re: #209 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

{Gus} How are you feeling?

Meh. OK but mostly meh. Need a ruler to scratch my foot already.

213 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:36:04pm

re: #210 CuriousLurker

Taking your happy pills? ;)

Not since before I fell asleep last night. Was trying to take a nap just now but gave up since I was going straight into some weird nightmares. Don’t ask.

214 iceweasel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:36:15pm

re: #208 Gus

Teehee.

Yay Gus! How are you dude?

215 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:36:37pm

re: #207 CuriousLurker

OT (Attention political history geeks):

I just received a book I purchased earlier in the week called The Middle East and the United States: History, Politics, and Ideologies by David Lesch. I purposely purchased the 2nd edition (1999) because someone in the reviews said that the newer editions have sacrificed details about early developments in the ME to make room for new stuff (the most recent edition is the 5th, 2011).

Is anyone familiar with this book? It has good reviews and is on the reading list of many polysci professors. Anyway, just curious as it’s so damned hard to find books that treat the history of the ME with any kind of objectivity, and this one seems like it does. The author has also written a book on the Arab-Israeli conflict (2007), but I want to get a handle on the bigger post-WWI picture first.

The very first chapter, about the King-Crane Commission, was something I’d never heard of before, so I’ve learned something already. I’m only on page 14 and have already found this part more than a little depressing:

Ugh. *sigh*

Philosophy 101.

216 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:36:46pm

re: #213 Gus

Not since before I fell asleep last night. Was trying to take a nap just now but gave up since I was going straight into some weird nightmares. Don’t ask.

Yikes. O_o

217 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:37:21pm

re: #214 iceweasel

Yay Gus! How are you dude?

Hey Ice. LTNS. I seem to have broken my suspension. :O Yourself?

218 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:37:46pm

re: #214 iceweasel

Yay Gus! How are you dude?

Probably a little limpy.

219 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:37:58pm

re: #215 b_sharp

Philosophy 101.

You mean the part about “neutral observers’?

221 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:39:24pm

re: #213 Gus

Not since before I fell asleep last night. Was trying to take a nap just now but gave up since I was going straight into some weird nightmares. Don’t ask.

Interesting thing about being able to control your dreams, they don’t stay nightmares very long.

222 lawhawk  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:39:37pm

re: #212 Gus

Broken ankle? That sucks. Feel better dude.

223 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:39:40pm

Looks like it has a nice stereo though. //

224 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:40:00pm

re: #219 CuriousLurker

You mean the part about “neutral observers’?

Yup.

225 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:41:03pm

re: #222 lawhawk

Broken ankle? That sucks. Feel better dude.

Yes, and thanks. Fractured fibula to be exact.

226 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:41:46pm

re: #225 Gus

Yes, and thanks. Fractured fibula to be exact.

When do they operate?

227 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:43:09pm

re: #224 b_sharp

Yup.

Humanity is so screwed. It’s a miracle we’ve survived this long. I hate politics.

228 Mattand  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:43:17pm

re: #17 Sionainn

I don’t know why I’m wasting my time with someone on my husband’s half-brother’s FB. He posted a quote, claiming it was from Benjamin Franklin. I posted a link showing that it was not. Now, there’s some gun nut friend of his whining that I’m attacking the messenger, I hate conservatives, that I should look at Conservapedia, and then states: “Here are some more things you should make yourself privy to- Agenda 21, the Benghazi cover-up, the funding of Egypt’s military, Australia’s affects from gun control and why the America’s became so successful after the American Revolution. Facts are my thing, actually, lol!!!”

I asked her, since facts are her thing, to post proof that quote came from Franklin. Now, she’s upset because THAT’S NOT THE POINT, it’s not the origin of the quote, but the meaning. Ugh. Stupid people.

I’ve mentioned this before, but I had the exact exchange with a guy I know over the fake “Those people in New Orleans got Katrina aid money for nothing” e-mail.

Exact same pinhead conservative response: sure, the quote/e-mail/chain letter is fake, but it’s the MESSAGE that’s important. Pointing out that you don’t support your argument with a fabrication means nothing to these people.

229 Mattand  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:44:49pm

re: #212 Gus

re: #222 lawhawk

Broken ankle? That sucks. Feel better dude.

Gah! That’s what happened? Ouch. Get well soon.

230 Interesting Times  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:45:00pm
231 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:46:08pm

re: #226 b_sharp

When do they operate?

Not sure. As it stands now, being able to make a recovery here wouldn’t work very well. I sleep on a couch and whatever help I could get around here would be severely limited. We’re not exactly best friends and this wouldn’t be like coming back home from having a plate and screws put through my fibula and coming home to a wife and kids or a warm loving family and/or friends. This operation would also require physical therapy according to the PA.

232 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:48:29pm

Anyway. Don’t want to think about it for now. :D

233 Interesting Times  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:51:25pm
234 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:51:39pm

re: #227 CuriousLurker

Humanity is so screwed. It’s a miracle we’ve survived this long. I hate politics.

I hate to admit it but the same tribalism we see today as a reaction to fear and stress within a large population is the reason we do so well in smaller populations. Our biggest problem is our ability to develop incredibly sophisticated and efficient killing machines without developing a larger, more sophisticated social structure. The only way we survive our own ingenuity is by expanding our tribe size beyond the instinctual.

235 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:52:22pm

re: #207 CuriousLurker

OT (Attention political history geeks):

The very first chapter, about the King-Crane Commission, was something I’d never heard of before, so I’ve learned something already. I’m only on page 14 and have already found this part more than a little depressing:

Ugh. *sigh*

I think I’ve read about those guys before. It’s also amazing how many American businessmen had interests in the middle east, even back then. Lloyd George and Clemenceau made an incredible mess out of Versailles. Did you know the he (Lloyd George) offered Armenia to the US as an American mandate?

236 engineer cat  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:52:32pm

re: #199 stabby

My problem with Objectivists and other empathy free people is that I can’t imagine liking someone like that. How can they stand each other? How can they stand themselves? Why would you want to be in the company of heartless creeps?

i think it’s not so much that they are necessarily empathy-free, but that they are cranks in the thrall of a philosophy of selfishness

237 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:55:36pm

re: #231 Gus

Not sure. As it stands now, being able to make a recovery here wouldn’t work very well. I sleep on a couch and whatever help I could get around here would be severely limited. We’re not exactly best friends and this wouldn’t be like coming back home from having a plate and screws put through my fibula and coming home to a wife and kids or a warm loving family and/or friends. This operation would also require physical therapy according to the PA.

That doesn’t help. I had no idea you were sleeping on a couch.
No family in the area?

238 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:55:39pm

Anyway, here’s a blow up of the airspeed indicator. Only goes up to 300 knots. That’s prop territory.

Image: ASI.jpg

239 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:56:54pm

re: #237 b_sharp

That doesn’t help. I had no idea you were sleeping on a couch.
No family in the area?

Yeah. No family in the area. Don’t really want to give out more details anymore like I did a couple of years ago.

240 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:59:26pm

re: #234 b_sharp

I hate to admit it but the same tribalism we see today as a reaction to fear and stress within a large population is the reason we do so well in smaller populations. Our biggest problem is our ability to develop incredibly sophisticated and efficient killing machines without developing a larger, more sophisticated social structure. The only way we survive our own ingenuity is by expanding our tribe size beyond the instinctual.

That makes sense. Scary though.

241 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:59:38pm

re: #238 Gus

About 345 mph.

By way of comparison, the P-51 had a top speed of 435 mph.

242 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:59:45pm

From “A Peace to End all Peace”, by David Fromkin:

Britain had never gone ahead with the notion of an American Mandate for Palestine but had proposed that the United States should assume the League of Nations Mandates to occupy and govern portions of Anatolia, Constantinople, the Dardanelles, Armenia, and the Caucasus. In the end those were narrowed down to Constantinople, the Dardanelles, and Armenia.

There were two reasons why Britain wanted the United States to assume these Mandates: it would implicate the United States in the Middle Eastern settlement so as the insure that she would help to support its terms; and it would station the United States on the front lines if Soviet Russia were ever to attack Turkey.

243 Lidane  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:59:46pm
244 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:00:05pm

re: #236 engineer cat

i think it’s not so much that they are necessarily empathy-free, but that they are cranks in the thrall of a philosophy of selfishness

Rand’s ideas look good on paper, but only so far as paper burns easily to start nice warming fires. Her concept of informed, dispassionate self interest is a fiction. By accepting her ideas her followers ignore 50 years of cognitive studies.

245 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:01:03pm

re: #235 dragonath

I think I’ve read about those guys before. It’s also amazing how many American businessmen had interests in the middle east, even back then. Lloyd George and Clemenceau made an incredible mess out of Versailles. Did you know the he (Lloyd George) offered Armenia to the US as an American mandate?

Wow, no, I had no idea about that. I need to find a good book on WWI as that seems to be when everything changed in a major way.

(Sorry for the slow response, but my internet connection is flaky today.)

246 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:01:05pm

re: #238 Gus

Anyway, here’s a blow up of the airspeed indicator. Only goes up to 300 knots. That’s prop territory.

Image: ASI.jpg

Maybe Iranian knots are bigger than Western knots.

247 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:01:24pm

re: #239 Gus

Yeah. No family in the area. Don’t really want to give out more details anymore like I did a couple of years ago.

OK.

248 iceweasel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:02:26pm

re: #225 Gus

Yes, and thanks. Fractured fibula to be exact.

Ugh. I fractured my fibula a few years ago. Also broke the tibia, it was all pretty awful. I remember the fibula taking a long time to heal. I hope yours heals faster!

249 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:02:44pm

re: #241 ProBosniaLiberal

About 345 mph.

By way of comparison, the P-51 had a top speed of 435 mph.

Yeah. You can tell it’s made of fiberglass too. It’s a mock-up if even that because a mock-up implies a R/D phase and production in the future. The plane they show flying is a model which you can tell by how nimbly-bimbly it flies through the air. Probably a duct fan motor with a “jet plane” overdub done at the PressTV studio.

250 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:03:13pm

re: #245 CuriousLurker

I think you know my positions on one of the issues? :P

251 iceweasel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:03:35pm

re: #232 Gus

Anyway. Don’t want to think about it for now. :D

Poop, just saw this. Sorry.

252 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:03:48pm

re: #243 Lidane

Looks like they’re laundering money through Chavez or something. Not much of a surprise.

253 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:04:20pm

re: #251 iceweasel

Poop, just saw this. Sorry.

That’s OK, I expected a delay effect.

254 engineer cat  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:07:29pm

re: #244 b_sharp

Rand’s ideas look good on paper, but only so far as paper burns easily to start nice warming fires. Her concept of informed, dispassionate self interest is a fiction. By accepting her ideas her followers ignore 50 years of cognitive studies.

yah

i find no evidence that she ever put into practice any of her radical ideas about a society where nobody helps anybody else. she lived a normal life for a successful writer of fiction and cult leader. She never paid back the soviet union for giving her a free university education, as she would be obligated to do under her philosophy, and of course she was happy to benefit from social security and medicare

255 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:08:51pm

re: #242 dragonath

From “A Peace to End all Peace”, by David Fromkin:

I’ve got a copy of that too. It’s on my reading list (if I can ever find the time). I finally decided that I’d check the syllabi from various universities that offer polysci programs and pick the most common books to try to get at least somewhat objective material. The thing is, it seems history is always being revised—I don’t mean like in the flat out lying wingnut manner, but rather in light of new knowledge. It’s aggravating.

256 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:10:06pm

How did I miss this? 2010…

Evo Morales: Homosexuality is Caused by Eating Chicken

I never liked this douche.

257 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:11:33pm

Report of Hurricane Isaac is out.

Isaac was responsible for $2.35 Billion in Damage in the US, with 5 deaths in the US Proper, and at least 29 in the Caribbean.

Hardest hit was Haiti.

What are the odds Isaac gets retired, you all think?

Sandy of course is a definite.

258 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:14:07pm

I only wish wingnuts would be as assiduous in analyzing the “Quotes by Founding Fathers About GUNZ” and “FBI Gun Violence Statistics” and “Map of Gun Crimes!” as they are about a photo of the President shooting clay birds.

259 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:15:41pm

re: #255 CuriousLurker

I’ve got a copy of that too. It’s on my reading list (if I can ever find the time). I finally decided that I’d check the syllabi from various universities that offer polysci programs and pick the most common ones to try to get at least somewhat objective material. The thing is, it seems history is always being revised—I don’t mean like in the flat out lying wingnut manner, but rather in light of new knowledge. It’s aggravating.

Liberals try to make the stories of history reflect the actions of all parties in as accurate a way as possible. Conservatives value the message more than the accuracy so they look for stories with clear protagonist/antagonist roles that can be used to express their moral structure. We see this in the pressure on publishing books for Texas where certain historical characters are being removed or revised.

260 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:16:19pm

re: #256 Gus

How did I miss this? 2010…

Evo Morales: Homosexuality is Caused by Eating Chicken

I never liked this douche.

How incredibly stupid and ignorant.

261 Awea  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:16:20pm

re: #180 Amory Blaine

As firearm sales soar, Wal-Mart rations sale of ammunition

Isn’t that an infringement on the 2nd Amendment…I mean if Obama had said that, I bet it sure would be a rwn talking point.

262 iceweasel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:16:35pm

NOT THE BUNNY SUIT!

263 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:17:31pm

re: #261 Awea

Isn’t that an infringement on the 2nd Amendment…I mean if Obama had said that, I bet it sure would be a rwn talking point.

Capitalism. Supply and demand.

264 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:17:49pm

re: #260 b_sharp

How incredibly stupid and ignorant.

Science! He’s an idiot.

265 efuseakay  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:19:29pm

Don’t worry. The Freepers are on it!

He’s wearing a different watch, ergo FAKE!!!!!

266 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:19:49pm

re: #255 CuriousLurker

I’ve got a copy of that too. It’s on my reading list (if I can ever find the time). I finally decided that I’d check the syllabi from various universities that offer polysci programs and pick the most common ones to try to get at least somewhat objective material. The thing is, it seems history is always being revised—I don’t mean like in the flat out lying wingnut manner, but rather in light of new knowledge. It’s aggravating.

That book is a pretty good one, although it’s specifically about the Ottoman front- you won’t find out much about the Germans except in their dealings with the Turks and Russians.

The Western front gets a lot of the coverage even now, but the crux of the war lay in the East. The war started out of (Bismarck’s quote) “a damn fool thing” in the Balkans, and the Ottomans turned to to be far more tenacious than the Allies expected. If not for Gallipoli, the Russians would have had a friendly warm water port and the world would have been spared Britain’s Machiavellian peace.

267 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:20:08pm

re: #260 b_sharp

That’s basically the Chavista leaders in a nutshell, right there.

268 ProBosniaLiberal  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:21:01pm

re: #266 dragonath

I think my little spiel in the last week has made my opinions on this clear.

269 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:23:47pm

What right-wing Anti-Semitism?

270 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:24:19pm

re: #259 b_sharp

Liberals try to make the stories of history reflect the actions of all parties in as accurate a way as possible. Conservatives value the message more than the accuracy so they look for stories with clear protagonist/antagonist roles that can be used to express their moral structure. We see this in the pressure on publishing books for Texas where certain historical characters are being removed or revised.

Yeah, thanks to the wingnuts the term “revisionist history” has very negative associations in my mind because of stuff like what’s happened in TX, when in fact it’s not an inherently negative thing—it can be a good and even necessary process.

271 Awea  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:30:23pm

re: #263 b_sharp

Capitalism. Supply and demand.

I see that as more as Socialism than Capitalism. I mean if it was capitalism, would you not keep raising the price until the demand lowered. While rationing it out, is making sure that almost everyone has a chance to buy some everyday.

272 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:31:58pm

re: #266 dragonath

That book is a pretty good one, although it’s specifically about the Ottoman front- you won’t find out much about the Germans except in their dealings with the Turks and Russians.

The Western front gets a lot of the coverage even now, but the crux of the war lay in the East. The war started out of (Bismarck’s quote) “a damn fool thing” in the Balkans, and the Ottomans turned to to be far more tenacious than the Allies expected. If not for Gallipoli, the Russians would have had a friendly warm water port and the world would have been spared Britain’s Machiavellian peace.

Thanks for the background info. It’s such a HUGE, complicated subject to try to understand how things got to where they are now in the span of 100 years or so, but I’m determined to tackle and wrap my head around the basics of the subject. I’m tired of feeling ignorant and it looks like a fascinating, if daunting, challenge.

273 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:32:17pm

How is the evening going?

274 efuseakay  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:32:50pm

Has Jim Hoft ever fired a gun? I’d even settle for an air soft.

275 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:35:04pm

What right-wing Anti-Semitism?

276 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:35:23pm

re: #231 Gus

Not sure. As it stands now, being able to make a recovery here wouldn’t work very well. I sleep on a couch and whatever help I could get around here would be severely limited. We’re not exactly best friends and this wouldn’t be like coming back home from having a plate and screws put through my fibula and coming home to a wife and kids or a warm loving family and/or friends. This operation would also require physical therapy according to the PA.

You probably won’t be able to put weight on it for about 3 weeks, then the tendons and muscles will have become weak. You’ll have a “boot” and crutches. It’s going to be a painful recovery.

I’m so sorry, Gus.

277 bratwurst  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:35:49pm

re: #269 Vicious Babushka

What right-wing Anti-Semitism?

As I never get tired of saying: love for Israel a mile wide, but regard for Jews an inch deep.

278 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:36:43pm

I did a bit of reading on the early part of 20th century last year. In a nutshell, I came to the conclusion that most of our societal and foreign policy ills can be traced back to the Treaty of Versailles.

279 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:38:48pm

re: #275 Vicious Babushka

What right-wing Anti-Semitism?

That Veterans Today site fooled me for about 5 minutes the first time I saw it a couple of years ago because it looks so legit. Once you start reading though… O_o

280 Kruk  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:39:12pm

re: #256 Gus

How did I miss this? 2010…

Evo Morales: Homosexuality is Caused by Eating Chicken

I never liked this douche.

Hah! So Chick-A-Fil is converting people to homosexuality?

281 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:39:32pm

re: #278 FemNaziBitch

I did a bit of reading on the early part of 20th century last year. In a nutshell, I came to the conclusion that most of our societal and foreign policy ills can be traced back to the Treaty of Versailles.

I’ll have to keep that thought in mind as I read.

282 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:39:38pm

re: #280 Kruk

Hah! So Chick-A-Fil is converting people to homosexuality?

Because only real men eat Beef?

283 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:41:01pm

re: #279 CuriousLurker

I could barely tolerate a few seconds of the first video. Nothing but a pack of lies I have heard before. Disgusting.

284 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:41:01pm

re: #281 CuriousLurker

I’ll have to keep that thought in mind as I read.

I think the pattern of “Western European Christian Superiority” and how we are still fighting it’s results today really clear.

I’m not good at remembering specifics. It just seemed so blatant to me.

285 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:45:10pm

bbl

286 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:46:40pm

re: #283 PhillyPretzel

I could barely tolerate a few seconds of the first video. Nothing but a pack of lies I have heard before. Disgusting.

I didn’t even click on the video as I figured it would be what you’re describing. Not in the mood to listen to a bunch of hateful trash.

287 Skeetghazi  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:47:40pm

re: #265 efuseakay

Don’t worry. The Freepers are on it!

He’s wearing a different watch, ergo FAKE!!!!!

This is one of the most ridic things ever. My 85 year old Aunt has even heard the “fake!” screams. I told her about Plouffe’s tweet and she lost it.

288 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:48:46pm

re: #271 Awea

I see that as more as Socialism than Capitalism. I mean if it was capitalism, would you not keep raising the price until the demand lowered. While rationing it out, is making sure that almost everyone has a chance to buy some everyday.

Image is a part of capitalism. Rationing preserves image. I know this because I was managing a Consumers Distributing when the Cabbage Patch doll craze hit.

289 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:48:57pm

re: #286 CuriousLurker

Same here. I am watching Primal Grill and Steven Raichlen is making some really yummy burgers.

290 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:49:26pm

re: #274 efuseakay

Has Jim Hoft ever fired a gun? I’d even settle for an air soft.

Too busy wanking.

291 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:51:06pm

re: #280 Kruk

Hah! So Chick-A-Fil is converting people to homosexuality?

Filling a Chick is what most University guys are trying to do. That ain’t homosexual.

292 Skeetghazi  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:51:09pm

re: #275 Vicious Babushka

What right-wing Anti-Semitism?

What the hell.

Today sucks on the internet.

293 efuseakay  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:53:55pm

re: #290 b_sharp

Too busy wanking.

There’s a difference?

294 efuseakay  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:56:49pm
295 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:57:00pm

Wingnuts not even bothering to hide outright racism anymore.

296 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:57:32pm

re: #279 CuriousLurker

That Veterans Today site fooled me for about 5 minutes the first time I saw it a couple of years ago because it looks so legit. Once you start reading though… O_o

Damn. One of the other “related posts” from the link that asshole tweeted is even worse (the title is Anti-Semitism: What it IS and is NOT—I’m not gonna link to it). There’s a shitload of Holocaust denial in the comments.

297 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:58:58pm

re: #278 FemNaziBitch

I did a bit of reading on the early part of 20th century last year. In a nutshell, I came to the conclusion that most of our societal and foreign policy ills can be traced back to the Treaty of Versailles.

While there is a certain amount of truth there, it oversimplifies things tremendously. There were a number of competing streams of trouble, for lack of a better word, that collided in the Balkans and touched off WWI. But even if it hadn’t happened there & then, some other explosion like that was going to happen before 1920. The Naval arms race, if nothing else, would have imploded the world economies by then.

CL - you might find Barbara Tuchman’s book “Bible and Sword: England and Palestine from the Bronze Age to Balfour” (1956) useful in understanding the mindset of the British and their fantasy that they had some kind of “special” relationship with the Holy Land. It’s a very insightful work as I recall. It and the previously mentioned “A Peace To End All Peace” are probably the best lay works I’ve run into for understanding how & why the British made such a rat fucked disaster out of the Middle East.

298 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 4:59:38pm

re: #296 CuriousLurker

Damn. One of the other “related posts” from the link that asshole tweeted is even worse (the title is Anti-Semitism: What it IS and is NOT—I’m not gonna link to it). There’s a shitload of Holocaust denial in the comments.

These people have FOLLOWERS on TGDN, nobody is screaming BLOCK THEM BLOCK THEM like they do when Babushka calls out a fake quote.

299 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:00:05pm

I’ve been wondering if Twitter is like this all over the world. How many Neo-Nazis are spouting off in Europe, and we don’t know it?

300 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:00:56pm

re: #297 William Barnett-Lewis

CL - you might find Barbara Tuchman’s book “Bible and Sword: England and Palestine from the Bronze Age to Balfour” (1956) useful in understanding the mindset of the British and their fantasy that they had some kind of “special” relationship with the Holy Land. It’s a very insightful work as I recall. It and the previously mentioned “A Peace To End All Peace” are probably the best lay works I’ve run into for understanding how & why the British made such a rat fucked disaster out of the Middle East.

Thanks a million!

301 efuseakay  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:01:20pm

re: #292 Skeetghazi

What the hell.

Today sucks on the internet.

Today? Did you just sign up with CompuServe or something?

/

302 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:01:54pm

Tech note: the Pages posting window now has a “List” button, that brings up a dialog box in which you can easily create the HTML code for an ordered or unordered list.

Just select the list type, then enter the list items, one per line.

303 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:02:06pm

re: #295 Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts not even bothering to hide outright racism anymore.

So dumb. They’re bringing up shit from 1969. Half of alternative America was having an existential crisis about the money being spent on the moon landings. Everyone worked their own agenda around this back then.

304 iceweasel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:03:58pm

re: #178 Skeetghazi

Hee hee. Most likely, karma is a bitch! Just kidding, hope you guys are great!

Karma is a bitch named ICEWEASEL.
:)

305 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:05:07pm

re: #304 iceweasel

lol

306 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:05:19pm

Unsigned editorial. What a bunch of idiots. When it’s unsigned it means it represents the views (more or less) from the magazine or newspaper itself.

307 Skeetghazi  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:05:38pm

re: #301 efuseakay

Today? Did you just sign up with CompuServe or something?

/

Ha. I’m just low tolerance today I guess.

308 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:07:14pm

re: #295 Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts not even bothering to hide outright racism anymore.

Apparently, they can’t understand what they read.

309 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:08:34pm

re: #302 Charles Johnson

Tech note: the Pages posting window now has a “List” button, that brings up a dialog box in which you can easily create the HTML code for an ordered or unordered list.

Just select the list type, then enter the list items, one per line.

So fricken cool.

Now WTF can I list…

310 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:10:31pm

Buck is still here, he and War On Music are having a poo fight.

311 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:11:46pm

re: #310 Vicious Babushka

::: schlepping out hip waders ::::

312 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:12:59pm

re: #310 Vicious Babushka

Buck is still here, he and War On Music are having a poo fight.

I’ll get the beer & popcorn.

313 TedStriker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:14:27pm

re: #290 b_sharp

Too busy wanking.

Jim Hoft, in “target shooting” with his Love Gun over the years, has killed millions upon millions of prospective fetuses. I wonder how many RWNJs are gonna cum down on him about that?

///

314 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:14:43pm

re: #312 William Barnett-Lewis

I’ll get the beer & popcorn.

I’ll bring the Preparation-H and Vicodin.

315 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:15:30pm

Hmm. Maybe I will clean up the grill for the roasting of some troll.

316 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:17:29pm

re: #310 Vicious Babushka

Buck is still here, he and War On Music are having a poo fight.

Imagine my surprise. //

At least now he has a real opponent to fight instead of just the regular members he feels the need to make nasty insinuations about.

317 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:24:32pm

re: #310 Vicious Babushka

Buck is still here, he and War On Music are having a poo fight.

Where?

318 Feline Fearless Leader  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:24:47pm

re: #61 dragonath

Counterexamples to the Bible

That’s because the main counterexamples to many Bible quotes are found elsewhere in the Bible. It’s sort of self-refuting.

319 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:25:24pm

re: #317 b_sharp

Where?

Downstairs, on an old thread posted by the aigle spambot.

320 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:25:25pm

re: #317 b_sharp

Pull up Master Spy and you will find him.

321 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:26:16pm

re: #317 b_sharp

Where?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

322 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:26:24pm

re: #318 Feline Fearless Leader

Nice pic. Is that cat all black?

323 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:26:37pm

What right-wing racism? WARNING: the link is to some KKK white-supremacist site.

324 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:33:26pm

re: #323 Vicious Babushka

They should take a short trip to Wikipedia. [Link: encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com…]

325 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:34:20pm

Oh shit, I came across the “Council of Conservative Citizens” dreck too… linked under the twitter handle NS_Revolution.

Imagine my surprise that TGDN stuff gets picked up by actual Nazi accounts.

326 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:36:43pm

re: #325 dragonath

Oh shit, I came across the “Council of Conservative Citizens” dreck too… linked under the twitter handle NS_Revolution.

Imagine my surprise that TGDN stuff gets picked up by actual Nazi accounts.

Who knew that TGDN would devolve into the Jerry Springer Show so quickly.

//

327 Ming  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:38:05pm

From http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2013/02/gun-sales-soar-on-photo-of-armed-obama.html :

“I don’t want to sound paranoid or anything, but now everything Obama has been doing makes sense,” said Harland Dorrinson, who was waiting on a blocks-long line outside a West Virginia Wal-Mart. “He wants to take away all our guns and then he’s going to come shoot us.”

I thought that was really funny, and still do, but I sobered up after absorbing the next words from this gentleman:

Learning that Mr. Obama only uses his rifle for skeet-shooting did little to calm Mr. Dorrinson: “Somebody owning a gun just for sporting purposes? Yeah, right.”

328 austin_blue  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:38:17pm

You gotta love this story:

[Link: dailycurrant.com…]

If this was about a Dem or a Prog, Brietbart would run it and Faux would follow it.

329 Achilles Tang  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:40:01pm

re: #200 lawhawk

They’ve had a long history of exaggerating claims.

They’re claiming that they’ve gone and created a home grown stealth fighter.

I’m going to lean towards BS, precisely because the Iranians don’t have a home grown aircraft to their name. Their most modern aircraft are primarily Russian in origin and there’s rumors of sales of Chinese fighters, but nothing concrete.

It’s highly unlikely that a country that hasn’t built a home grown fighter, let alone a 4G fighter, will suddenly come out and produce a 5G fighter - there’s a learning curve that comes with working with the kinds of materials and equipment needed to build. And then there’s the issue of the engines - a fighter is only as good as the engines - are they copying a Russian or Chinese design?

I was looking for thoughts on this. The picture presentation, on a rotating platform built for show and tell, without size references, looks odd; and I saw a clip from Iran TV with something similar flying. However I’ve seen plenty of video of flying model planes and that is what this looked like.

Oops. I didn’t look at your link first. It has better shots than what I saw, but the flying plane is a model, I’m sure.

330 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:40:08pm

re: #328 austin_blue

You gotta love this story:

[Link: dailycurrant.com…]

If this was about a Dem or a Prog, Brietbart would run it and Faux would follow it.

The Daily Currant is…

331 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:41:49pm

re: #328 austin_blue

You gotta love this story:

[Link: dailycurrant.com…]

If this was about a Dem or a Prog, Brietbart would run it and Faux would follow it.

From the aricle:

Realizing her efforts to provoke a mutiny had come to naught, Coulter then took her carry-on bags and bolted back up the jetway towards the gate against the orders of the flight attendants.

Stupid effing &%^$%#@!

332 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:42:42pm

re: #328 austin_blue

You gotta love this story:

[Link: dailycurrant.com…]

If this was about a Dem or a Prog, Brietbart would run it and Faux would follow it.

Is that story real, or a parody site? If real, somebody really missed an epic taser shot.

333 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:42:44pm

re: #330 Gus

The Daily Currant is…

Ohhh, it’s a satire site. LOL

334 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:43:02pm

re: #333 CuriousLurker

Ohhh, it’s a satire site. LOL

Yep.

335 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:43:43pm

Meanwhile in Africa


“Aren’t I beautiful?”
336 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:43:43pm

re: #333 CuriousLurker

Ohhh, it’s a satire site. LOL

Getting harder and harder to tell…

337 b_sharp  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:44:33pm

re: #331 CuriousLurker

From the aricle:

Stupid effing &%^$%#@!

Without corroboration I’m skeptical about this. I’d love for it to be true, but it sounds over the top even for her.

338 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:45:23pm

re: #336 Decatur Deb

Getting harder and harder to tell…

Yeah, we’ve gone through this before with the Daily Currant. Repeat after me, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire.

339 Achilles Tang  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:46:06pm

re: #328 austin_blue

You gotta love this story:

[Link: dailycurrant.com…]

If this was about a Dem or a Prog, Brietbart would run it and Faux would follow it.

WTF!! Surely this is an Onion parody??

340 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:46:20pm

re: #338 Gus

Yeah, we’ve gone through this before with the Daily Currant. Repeat after me, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire, the Daily Currant is satire.

Your needle is stuck—bump the turntable.

341 TedStriker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:46:33pm

re: #327 Ming

From http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2013/02/gun-sales-soar-on-photo-of-armed-obama.html :

I don’t want to sound paranoid or anything, but now everything Obama has been doing makes sense,” said Harland Dorrinson, who was waiting on a blocks-long line outside a West Virginia Wal-Mart. “He wants to take away all our guns and then he’s going to come shoot us.”

I thought that was really funny, and still do, but I sobered up after absorbing the next words from this gentleman:

Learning that Mr. Obama only uses his rifle for skeet-shooting did little to calm Mr. Dorrinson: “Somebody owning a gun just for sporting purposes? Yeah, right.”

Too late…

342 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:46:44pm

re: #340 Decatur Deb

Your needle is stuck—bump the turntable.

Number 9, number 9…

343 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:48:14pm

re: #336 Decatur Deb

Getting harder and harder to tell…

THIS. Poe’s law is pretty much in effect 24/7 nowadays.

344 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:48:25pm

re: #341 TedStriker

Too late…

Borowitz is also (usually) joking.

345 Achilles Tang  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:48:48pm

OK. At least I thought it was parody, but I suppose it is telling that I wasn’t 110% sure about Coulter.

346 Ming  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:51:18pm

re: #327 Ming

From http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2013/02/gun-sales-soar-on-photo-of-armed-obama.html :

“I don’t want to sound paranoid or anything, but now everything Obama has been doing makes sense,” said Harland Dorrinson, who was waiting on a blocks-long line outside a West Virginia Wal-Mart. “He wants to take away all our guns and then he’s going to come shoot us.”

I thought that was really funny, and still do, but I sobered up after absorbing the next words from this gentleman:

Learning that Mr. Obama only uses his rifle for skeet-shooting did little to calm Mr. Dorrinson: “Somebody owning a gun just for sporting purposes? Yeah, right.”

My apologies; it looks like this is a fictional item in [Link: www.newyorker.com….] Alas, it’s not that far from the truth. I still think it’s worth a read; it’s pretty funny.

347 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:52:39pm

I guess when you have a news cycle filled with skeeter stupidity it’s hard to tell truth from fiction at times.

348 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:53:11pm

You’d think having a background image of a smiling Fuhrer greeting people from his convertible would be against the Twitter TOS. And all those tweets about “Bloodthirsty Jews” are apparently, uh, kosher.

349 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:54:14pm

Come on, man, don’t be gettin’ all sensible on me now!

350 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:56:15pm

re: #348 dragonath

You’d think having a background image of a smiling Fuhrer greeting people from his convertible would be against the Twitter TOS. And all those tweets about “Bloodthirsty Jews” are apparently, uh, kosher.

Which one is this?

351 anonymous gun expert  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:56:20pm

re: #349 Charles Johnson

Come on, man, don’t be gettin’ all sensible on me now!

Dear People who think that Erick Erickson is insightful….

352 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:56:49pm

re: #340 Decatur Deb

Your needle is stuck—bump the turntable.

Put a nickel on the tonearm. With chewing gum.

353 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:56:54pm

re: #350 Vicious Babushka

Which one is this?

[Link: twitter.com…]

354 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:57:13pm

re: #349 Charles Johnson

Come on, man, don’t be gettin’ all sensible on me now!

He’s not being sensible—he’s repeating the meme du jour that the aim is too low. Supposedly a fake would be more ‘expert’.

“I speak derp.”

355 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:58:04pm

re: #324 PhillyPretzel

They should take a short trip to Wikipedia. [Link: encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com…]

From the ice cream entry:

In 400 BC, the Persians went further and invented a special chilled food, made of rose water and vermicelli which was served to royalty during summers.

Faloodeh is still a very popular Persian dessert. I’m not too crazy about that one, but they make some kick-ass cookies and their pistachio baklava is to die for.

356 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:58:13pm

re: #354 Decatur Deb

He’s not being sensible—he’s repeating the meme du jour that the aim is too low. Supposedly a fake would be more ‘expert’.

“I speak derp.”

Layers within layers. Schemes within schemes. Is there nothing too evil for this man?

357 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 5:58:29pm

re: #353 dragonath

[Link: twitter.com…]

Eww.

358 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 6:00:18pm

re: #356 Charles Johnson

Layers within layers. Schemes within schemes. Is there nothing too evil for this man?

He’s not the first brother who shoots skeet:

Image: 1217637.tif.jpg

Fixed

359 Awea  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 6:00:52pm

re: #349 Charles Johnson

Come on, man, don’t be gettin’ all sensible on me now!

I think Erick looked over the edge, and is slowly walking back from it.

360 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 6:02:25pm

BBL, gotta go order groceries online before it gets too late for Sunday delivery.

361 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 6:02:41pm

Image: h7E4C048A.jpg

Later, lizards

362 Achilles Tang  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 6:06:51pm

re: #360 CuriousLurker

BBL, gotta go order groceries online before it gets too late for Sunday delivery.

I’m curious Curious. I have never met anyone who orders groceries online. Why do you, and how much extra does it cost?

363 Jimmah  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 6:08:40pm

Audioquest speaker cables at $14,049.75

Review on Amazon:

We live underground. We speak with our hands. We wear the earplugs all our lives.

PLEASE! You must listen! We cannot maintain the link for long… I will type as fast as I can.

DO NOT USE THE CABLES!

We were fools, fools to develop such a thing! Sound was never meant to be this clear, this pure, this… accurate. For a few short days, we marveled. Then the… whispers… began.

Were they Aramaic? Hyperborean? Some even more ancient tongue, first spoken by elder races under the red light of dying suns far from here? We do not know, but somehow, slowly… we began to UNDERSTAND.

No, no, please! I don’t want to remember! YOU WILL NOT MAKE ME REMEMBER! I saw brave men claw their own eyes out… oh, god, the screaming… the mobs of feral children feasting on corpses, the shadows MOVING, the fires burning in the air! The CHANTING!

WHY CAN’T I FORGET THE WORDS???

We live underground. We speak with our hands. We wear the earplugs all our lives.

Do not use the cables!

[Link: www.amazon.com…]

364 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 6:09:34pm

Oh wow, the Last King of Romania is still alive

365 Skeetghazi  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 6:09:44pm

re: #349 Charles Johnson

Come on, man, don’t be gettin’ all sensible on me now!

Dear people who had the gall to question the photo, regardless of angle of gun, smoke direction, jeans the POTUS wore.

YOU SUCK, and you showed the ultimate SUCK today.

#Gunsbeforepeople

366 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 6:09:46pm

Watching some skeet shooters on Youtube. Plenty of times people are shooting “shallow.” Others also have their cheek against the gun stock.

367 Tars Tarkas  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 6:10:39pm

Skeeter was on Muppet Babies but not on the Muppet Show. Obviously Obunghole has struck again, an innocent baby paying the price!

368 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 6:11:39pm

re: #366 Gus

He also had a recoil pad on the end of the stock. The photo looked okay to me.

369 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 6:15:07pm
370 dragonath  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 6:15:33pm

re: #363 Jimmah

If you wish comprehend the audio nerd mind, check out the aptly named “Audio Asylum”

371 Awea  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 6:18:41pm

re: #367 Tars Tarkas

Skeeter was on Muppet Babies but not on the Muppet Show. Obviously Obunghole has struck again, an innocent baby paying the price!

She died, this Robot Chicken showed what happened to Skeeter.
Skeeter’s Death

372 Skeetghazi  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 6:21:17pm

re: #371 Awea

She died, this Robot Chicken showed what happened to Skeeter.
Skeeter’s Death

not gonna watch.

373 prairiefire  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 6:22:16pm

re: #371 Awea

She died, this Robot Chicken showed what happened to Skeeter.
Skeeter’s Death

Thanks! I thought it was a “he”.

374 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 6:24:22pm

re: #368 PhillyPretzel

He also had a recoil pad on the end of the stock. The photo looked okay to me.

Apparently the wusses over at the NRA were offended by the mere mention of skeet shooting in the context of the 2nd Amendment. I read the quote again an Obama does not say “I go skeet shooting all the time” but “we do skeet shooting all the time.”

“NR: Have you ever fired a gun?

Obama: Yes, in fact, up at Camp David, we do skeet shooting all the time.

NR: The whole family?

Obama: Not the girls, but oftentimes guests of mine go up there. And I have a profound respect for the traditions of hunting that trace back in this country for generations. And I think those who dismiss that out of hand make a big mistake.”

Meaning he may or may not individually go skeet shooting all the time but once in a while but is part of the group. Notice how he also indicates that “guests of mine go up there” to go skeet shooting. Wingnuts of course have difficulty in grasping the English language.

375 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 6:26:33pm

That asshole Allahpundit was part of that distortion. He titled his blog:

Obama: Sure, I go skeet shooting all the time

Which of course is a complete misquote. But AP went ahead an pasted the actual quote:

Yes, in fact, up at Camp David, we do skeet shooting all the time.

The headline sticks because the majority of people don’t read anything beyond the headline because reading is teh hard.

376 Jimmah  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 6:31:05pm

re: #370 dragonath

If you wish comprehend the audio nerd mind, check out the aptly named “Audio Asylum”

Just took a look - first thing I find:

I bought a new pair of Audioquest Type 4 speaker cables. I find they’re very crisp and detailed but the bass has been reduced substantially from the Monser’s. The soundstaging has improved as to placement of instruments and the ambiance of different acoustic venues is more pronounced. I’m a little concerned about the bass response. It is tight but just not as sbstantial as before leaving the sound a little bright or dry. I’m not sure if it’s because the Monsters were actually heavier in the bass or if the Audioquests are just flatter response.

These cables are new out of the box with silver bananas. I am breaking them in and wonder if anyone has experience with the break in period, if the cables bottom end will loosen up a bit after being played, or any advice on a break in period. Thanks to all in advance for your insights.

Apart from the fact that it has been established many times in double-blind tests that cables make no difference at all to the sound (assuming they aren’t simply bust), I’m baffled as to how anyone could be daft enough to think that a wire needs a run-in time to…become a better wire, or something. Woo is clearly alive and well in the audiophile world.

377 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 6:32:43pm

re: #375 Gus

That asshole Allahpundit was part of that distortion. He titled his blog:

Obama: Sure, I go skeet shooting all the time

Which of course is a complete misquote. But AP went ahead an pasted the actual quote:

Yes, in fact, up at Camp David, we do skeet shooting all the time.

The headline sticks because the majority of people don’t read anything beyond the headline because reading is teh hard.

“SkeetGate” is Teh Fucking Dumb. Who gives a sweet shit? Benghazi!

378 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 6:42:01pm

re: #377 Vicious Babushka

“SkeetGate” is Teh Fucking Dumb. Who gives a sweet shit? Benghazi!

Swan hunting, however, is classical.

For offline enjoyment (50 min)—here is the only YT copy of Joseph Papp’s Swan Lake, Minnesota. It tells the ballet in modern dress, with John Deere tractors and shotguns.

379 stabby  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 6:52:58pm

re: #371 Awea

I just followed that and watched a bunch..

Just mean. Meh. It’s like Happy Tree Friends with clay

380 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 7:08:04pm

re: #378 Decatur Deb

Swan hunting, however, is classical.

For offline enjoyment (50 min)—here is the only YT copy of Joseph Papp’s Swan Lake, Minnesota. It tells the ballet in modern dress, with John Deere tractors and shotguns.

[Embedded content]

Well, in states that now have good sized numbers of swans, limited hunting of Trumpeter Swans is legal. Mostly the swan taken as food rather than as trophies.

381 Decatur Deb  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 7:09:48pm

re: #380 Dark_Falcon

Well, in states that now have good sized numbers of swans, limited hunting of Trumpeter Swans is legal. Mostly the swan taken as food rather than as trophies.

But if you shoot one that metamorphizes into a ballerina, the paperwork is horrendous.

382 Achilles Tang  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 7:10:31pm

re: #369 Charles Johnson

I’ve seen that attempt at logic many times by creationists, and I simply don’t know where to start with an answer, except perhaps to say “they are; look in the mirror.”

383 Achilles Tang  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 7:18:04pm

re: #376 Jimmah

Just took a look - first thing I find:

Apart from the fact that it has been established many times in double-blind tests that cables make no difference at all to the sound (assuming they aren’t simply bust), I’m baffled as to how anyone could be daft enough to think that a wire needs a run-in time to…become a better wire, or something. Woo is clearly alive and well in the audiophile world.

This was a pet peeve of Randi over at Jref years ago and debunked there also. The truth is simple. Cables are a money machine for retailers. Just check Best Buy prices against online, and not just for audio. I needed a short HDMI, which was over $20 at BB. I got two for $4 online, including postage. Work fine.

384 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 8:08:41pm

re: #362 Achilles Tang

I’m curious Curious. I have never met anyone who orders groceries online. Why do you, and how much extra does it cost?

I do it because it’s the most practical thing for me. My salary is paid monthly, so I do the bulk of my grocery shopping all at once at the beginning of the month. I don’t have a car and don’t need one, so ordering online works out well for me because 1.) I don’t have to fight crowds or lug the groceries from a car to my apartment (they’re delivered to my door by the driver), and 2.) I pay $16.95 for delivery (plus a $3 tip), which is the same as what it would cost me to take a taxi to & from the store and tip the driver. Plus, the store drivers aren’t as grouchy as most of the taxi drivers, heh.

385 BroncD  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 9:01:55pm

I realize this might be me trying to apply logic to an illogical situation, but…

If the White House wanted to “fake” a photo of Obama shooting skeet, why not just set up a quick photoshoot and have him fire off a shot? Even if he never had shot skeet before and never shot again, they’d at least have one picture of him doing it. There would be no need to photoshop anything.

Unless, the RWNJs think Obama’s just such a pussy that he’d never even pick up a gun once, just for a fake photoshoot.

NM, I answered my own question.

386 Tigger2  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 9:10:12pm

re: #100 Interesting Times

I believe people were discussing this site downstairs:

Revelation as unexpected as foul smells from a sewer.

I have lost count of all the raciest comments I have flagged for review on FB. lol

387 Tigger2  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 9:42:57pm

re: #353 dragonath

[Link: twitter.com…]

Some sick shit.

388 Mich-again  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 9:47:39pm

I challenge people to find a picture of Mitt Romney throwing out a ceremonial first pitch at an MLB game. Please post it of you find it. You can find one pretty easy on google for every President who ever was. But not for Mitt.

I know this because I researched this during the campaign.

389 chadu  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 9:53:10pm

re: #6 HappyWarrior

I can’t even poem this shit yet.

390 chadu  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 9:56:54pm

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

Does that mean that the wingnuts in question are expected to lick Jim Hoft’s love pump?

[dives into bunker]

That is terrible! Have an upding.

391 chadu  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 9:58:53pm

re: #44 dragonath

I want to summon the fire.

392 chadu  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:02:26pm

re: #63 BongCrodny

Those people must all be twelve years old.

Here’s a heading under the “Conservative Humor” category. I kid you not:

That is startingly specific.

393 chadu  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:33:13pm

re: #172 engineer cat

people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw up on estonians

As an aside, Luxemburghers will repeat on you. Word to the wise.

394 Achilles Tang  Sun, Feb 3, 2013 6:08:59am

re: #384 CuriousLurker

I have never lived in an apartment in a big city. On reflection I suppose that situation makes sense.

395 chadu  Sun, Feb 3, 2013 8:02:35am

re: #199 stabby

Personally, I think Rand (and many Objectivists) cannot grasp the concept of altruism.

At all.

For most normal people, it feels nice to give alms, volunteer for an afternoon in a soup kitchen, or donate to charity.

Apparently, Rand-ites cannot understand this: sometimes and for someones, it feels good to help other people.

Plus, Rand was a fricking hypocrite to her avowed philosophies. See Shermer.

396 chadu  Sun, Feb 3, 2013 8:06:56am

re: #221 b_sharp

Interesting thing about being able to control your dreams, they don’t stay nightmares very long.

Lucid dreaming? Any hints/practices?

397 chadu  Sun, Feb 3, 2013 11:46:42am

re: #340 Decatur Deb

Your needle is stuck—bump the turntable.

Time to start scratching! Use that stuck needle and artful scratching to give samples!

FOR THE CHILDREN!


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