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Human-Toad Hybrid Dick Morris Dropped by Fox

AlwaysWrongPundit gets the boot
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Separated at birth?

A curt announcement from Fox News tonight terminates the employment of human-toad hybrid Dick Morris.

Fired for always being wrong? Conservative former Clinton adviser Dick Morris will no longer serve as a contributor to Fox News, the network confirmed Tuesday. “His contract is up and we will not be renewing it,” a spokesman said.

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1 EPR-radar  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 7:23:52pm

Being wrong isn’t the problem. Being an embarrassment is.

2 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 7:23:58pm

Once Dick Morris becomes number one in the ratings, I don’t see him giving it up.

3 PT Barnum  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 7:26:06pm

Dick Morris..was he the one with the foot fetish or was he the cross-dresser?

4 Egregious Philbin  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 7:28:33pm

Hey Dickie…welcome to Loser Town….Population..You!

What a shameless whore Morris has been, every time he flacks on a radio show or TV show, he has to sell the new, poorly sourced, hastily written book he slapped together.

Expect him to linger on crappy local conservative talk radio shows in Tulsa or Des Moines or Boise…..

The party is over Dick….

5 jaunte  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 7:29:28pm
6 nines09  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 7:30:10pm

Now that’s two grifters cut loose from Fox. Palin and now Dick. Maybe they could start a consulting firm. Charge by the word and recommend that the customer do the exact opposite of the advice given.

7 austin_blue  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 7:31:37pm

Jeez, Charles..

Toad’s serve a useful purpose in this world. Claiming common genetic material with Morris is terribly demeaning!

8 PT Barnum  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 7:32:05pm

re: #3 PT Barnum

Dick Morris..was he the one with the foot fetish or was he the cross-dresser?

I went and looked it up..he was just a run of the mill whoremonger.

9 jaunte  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 7:34:14pm

re: #7 austin_blue


“Human-toed aficionado” Dick Morris.

10 Skeetghazi  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 7:34:22pm

re: #3 PT Barnum

Dick Morris..was he the one with the foot fetish or was he the cross-dresser?

Foot fetish…

Dick Morris’ paid mistress said he had a fetish for toe sucking (info that goes into the TMI hall of fame) — and that he believed paying for her loving negated the fact he was cheating on his wife.

Link not fully checked out…

[Link: www.pensitoreview.com…]

11 bratwurst  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 7:35:35pm

I will sheepishly admit that I am curious to tune in tomorrow night…I want to see if Morris still has to gasp for air between sentences.

12 austin_blue  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 7:36:04pm

Sorry to go all OT, but there is some good stuff here. Repost from the bottom of the last thread:

Evening all!

David Brooks has an interesting OpEd that should be in todays Science Times:

[Link: [Link: www.nytimes.com…]…]

Meanwhile, *in* the Science Times, it turns out that Darwin was fascinated by… pigeons. Evolution in action!

[Link: [Link: www.nytimes.com…]…]

And the Monterey Shale in Socal and the central Valley may be becoming economically viable. All you really is a shitpot of..umm…er…water:

[Link: [Link: www.nytimes.com…]…]

Hope all are well!

13 BongCrodny  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 7:36:07pm

re: #6 nines09

Now that’s two grifters cut loose from Fox. Palin and now Dick. Maybe they could start a consulting firm. Charge by the word and recommend that the customer do the exact opposite of the advice given.

Uh-huh.

“Caribou and Caress Shoe”

14 austin_blue  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 7:37:13pm

re: #11 bratwurst

I will sheepishly admit that I am curious to tune in tomorrow night…I want to see if Morris still has to gasp for air between sentences.

COPD is a terrible thing…

15 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 7:37:45pm

re: #7 austin_blue

Jeez, Charles..

Toad’s serve a useful purpose in this world. Claiming common genetic material with Morris is terribly demeaning!

Tell that to Australia.

16 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 7:41:41pm

re: #6 nines09

Now that’s two grifters cut loose from Fox. Palin and now Dick. Maybe they could start a consulting firm. Charge by the word and recommend that the customer do the exact opposite of the advice given.

17 Skeetghazi  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 7:41:57pm
18 austin_blue  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 7:44:00pm

re: #15 Dark_Falcon

Tell that to Australia.

Yeah, but that’s an invasive species. I’m talking about your basic hop toad, a fine American Species. Inferring that they can actually interbreed with the likes of a Dick Morris just gives me the rigors!

19 Lidane  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 7:47:55pm

Greatest Tweet EVAR:

Dick Morris discredited himself in grand style that day.

20 TedStriker  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 7:52:56pm

re: #19 Lidane

Greatest Tweet EVAR:

Dick Morris discredited himself in grand style that day.

That falls under the heading of “famous last words”…

21 JeffFX  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 7:52:57pm

re: #11 bratwurst

I will sheepishly admit that I am curious to tune in tomorrow night…I want to see if Morris still has to gasp for air between sentences.

This is why starting on healthy habits including proper nutrition and exercise early in life are so important. You don’t want to wind up like Dick.

22 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 7:53:24pm

re: #19 Lidane

Greatest Tweet EVAR:

Dick Morris discredited himself in grand style that day.

Truly an EPIC FAIL for the ages.

23 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 7:54:39pm

re: #20 TedStriker

That falls under the heading of “famous last words”…

The problem is that those weren’t his last words: He racked more than two more months of DERP before FNC froze him out after the election.

24 Skeetghazi  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 7:56:21pm

re: #19 Lidane

Greatest Tweet EVAR:

Dick Morris discredited himself in grand style that day.

What is curious is the whole business model of Fox is to mislead their viewers. Over and over. Funny how doing the job is now reason for firing.

Oh I guess they are just trying to save face. Dick Morris probably no one will say a word. I’m curious about the Palinbot backlash.

25 Ming  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 7:58:14pm

Now that there’s an opening at Fox News for someone who always gets things wrong, maybe they’ll hire Michael Brown, the head of FEMA during Hurricane Katrina.

26 austin_blue  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:01:32pm

re: #24 Skeetghazi

What is curious is the whole business model of Fox is to mislead their viewers. Over and over. Funny how doing the job is now reason for firing.

Oh I guess they are just trying to save face. Dick Morris probably no one will say a word. I’m curious about the Palinbot backlash.

They will continue to just *love* Sarah with a love that needs no network.

Because she’s !!Sarah!!

{{{Isn’t she just Dreamy!?!?!? And that Todd is such a man! And Bristol is just such an adorable little scamp!}}}

27 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:03:35pm

re: #25 Ming

Now that there’s an opening at Fox News for someone who always gets things wrong, maybe they’ll hire Michael Brown, the head of FEMA during Hurricane Katrina.

Or they could just expand Bill Kristol’s hours.

28 Skeetghazi  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:03:44pm

re: #26 austin_blue

Ya killing me! ha

29 austin_blue  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:03:52pm

re: #25 Ming

Now that there’s an opening at Fox News for someone who always gets things wrong, maybe they’ll hire Michael Brown, the head of FEMA during Hurricane Katrina.

He did a heckuva job! A brilliant on-site supervisor and emergency response manager.

30 JeffFX  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:05:11pm

re: #24 Skeetghazi

What is curious is the whole business model of Fox is to mislead their viewers. Over and over. Funny how doing the job is now reason for firing.

I think doing it poorly and making a mockery of himself and the network was the problem. If the enough wingnuts tip to the fact they they’ve been completely duped, it could reach a critical mass, and Fox and hate radio would all be out of business.

31 HypnoToad  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:07:47pm

No relation to anyone in MY family.

32 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:08:02pm

re: #30 JeffFX

I think doing it poorly and making a mockery of himself and the network was the problem. If the enough wingnuts tip to the fact they they’ve been completely duped, it could reach a critical mass, and Fox and hate radio would all be out of business.

FNC could find a new business model, and may in fact be moving in that direction. It is, after all, possible to be right of center without being nutty or dishonest.

33 Political Atheist  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:09:01pm

Who?
/

34 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:09:11pm

re: #31 HypnoToad

No relation to anyone in MY family.

Well, based on his facial features one might dispu- ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!

35 BongCrodny  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:09:53pm

Maybe Fox could hire Jim Hoft.

They could save themselves years of time and trouble that way. This way Fox can scrape the bottom of the barrel without having to hire a succession of cretins, all of whom are slightly dumber than the one before.

Maximus derpus, if you will.

36 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:13:23pm

re: #35 BongCrodny

Maybe Fox could hire Jim Hoft.

They could save themselves years of time and trouble that way. This way Fox can scrape the bottom of the barrel without having to hire a succession of cretins, all of whom are slightly dumber than the one before.

Maximus derpus, if you will.

Fox and Rove probaly got the word from their moneybags: ‘This TP shit ain’t working, time to try a giuoco piano.’

37 JeffFX  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:13:54pm

re: #32 Dark_Falcon

FNC could find a new business model, and may in fact be moving in that direction. It is, after all, possible to be right of center without being nutty or dishonest.

If they did, they’d have to admit that everything they’ve been feeding the wingnuts was a lie. That’s bad for credibility. It’s possible that they could leverage the short attention spans of the American people, but the Internet remembers. I don’t see reasonable people ever taking Fox more seriously than Pravda.

38 austin_blue  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:21:20pm

Fox is TASS. Limbaugh is Pravda.

39 HoosierHoops  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:24:35pm

re: #38 austin_blue

Fox is TASS. Limbaugh is Pravda.

The Devil wears Pravda

40 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:25:10pm

re: #39 HoosierHoops

The Devil wears reads Pravda

41 aagcobb  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:30:01pm

re: #19 Lidane

Greatest Tweet EVAR:

Dick Morris discredited himself in grand style that day.

Technically, it wasn’t inaccurate. Since Romney never gained the lead, he did never relinquish it!

42 jaunte  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:35:04pm
43 Skeetghazi  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:38:25pm

re: #42 jaunte

Kick ass.

44 austin_blue  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:41:42pm

re: #42 jaunte

Saw that today. Pretty damn cool tech!

Talibanger 1: “What’s that annoying buzzing sound?”

Talibanger 2: “Was that a mortar firing?”

Talibangers 1 & 2, looking at each other with the Big Eyes: “Uh oh, spaghettios!!”

**BOOM**

45 SpaceJesus  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:41:50pm

re: #19 Lidane

i want that as a t-shirt

46 Lidane  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:42:25pm

re: #24 Skeetghazi

What is curious is the whole business model of Fox is to mislead their viewers. Over and over. Funny how doing the job is now reason for firing.

Misleading people about President Obama and the Dems = A-OK

Misleading people about the GOP = That’s a paddlin’ fireable offense

47 moderatelyradicalliberal  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:42:48pm

The fact that Rove is still on FOX tells me that the big money GOPers are still fool enough to pour more of their many millions into his next, grift……. er con, er……I mean effort to create a permanent Republican majority. I say this because nothing Palin or Morris said was as much of an embarrassment as Rove’s meltdown over OH being called on election night.

48 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:43:15pm

What global warming?

Iditarod dogsled race preparations hampered by lack of snow

As mushers prepare for the Iditarod, Alaska’s world-famous,1,000-plus-mile dogsled race, they are finding that one key ingredient is missing: snow.

In Fairbanks, Alaska, where many mushers train, the snowpack is 21 percent of average, and a number of Iditarod qualifying races have been postponed, rerouted or canceled due to a lack of snow, according to The New York Times.

“It’s raining and not snowing,” musher Luan Marques told the Times during a training run that involved avoiding puddles on the trail. “That’s not good.”

The Don Bowers Memorial 200/300, the Sheep Mountain Lodge 150 and the Knik 200 were canceled. Twenty-five miles of trail were cut off the Copper Basin 300 in Glennallen, Alaska, because of no snow at the finish line.

“That was crazy with the warm weather,” race organizer Zach Steer told the Times. “It was such a drastic change from last year, but the trail at the end was dirt. It wasn’t safe.”

49 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:46:15pm

re: #47 moderatelyradicalliberal

The fact that Rove is still on FOX tells me that the big money GOPers are still fool enough to pour more of their many millions into his next, grift……. er con, er……I mean effort to create a permanent Republican majority. I say this because nothing Palin or Morris said was as much of an embarrassment as Rove’s meltdown over OH being called on election night.

Sheldon Adelson poured as much as 150M down the sewer. In the end, though, he was making it faster than the TPOP could waste it.

50 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:46:33pm

re: #47 moderatelyradicalliberal

The fact that Rove is still on FOX tells me that the big money GOPers are still fool enough to pour more of their many millions into his next, grift……. er con, er……I mean effort to create a permanent Republican majority. I say this because nothing Palin or Morris said was as much of an embarrassment as Rove’s meltdown over OH being called on election night.

Yes, but thanks to Megyn Kelly the embarrassment was almost entirely on Karl Rove, not on Fox News. The Decision Desk called Ohio correctly and in accord with its established procedures, and then Kelly slapped Rove down when he railed against the call.

51 Gus  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:46:39pm

re: #42 jaunte

Cute.

52 jaunte  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:47:27pm

re: #49 Decatur Deb

I wonder if anyone knows where that came from; it could all have been Macau casino money.

53 Gus  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:47:29pm

Good thing they identified it as unmanned. I was wondering there for a second. :D

54 jaunte  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:48:15pm

re: #53 Gus

“UK Downsizes Army!”

55 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:48:38pm

re: #52 jaunte

I wonder if anyone knows where that came from; it could all have been Macau casino money.

Only his hairdresser accountant knows for sure.

56 Gus  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:50:11pm

re: #54 jaunte

“UK Downsizes Army!”

With a product from Commie pinko Norway!

Image: PD-100.jpg

I could use a tiny little scratcher robot.

57 austin_blue  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:50:40pm

re: #48 Kragar

What global warming?

Iditarod dogsled race preparations hampered by lack of snow

Now, now, at this point, it’s *weather*. Don’t go all taxfreekiller on us. If they have to move the Iditarod to the North Slope in five years, however…

But your point is very well taken. Strange days indeed.

We’ve been in the upper 70’s most of the last week.

58 Skeetghazi  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:51:15pm

I posted a page and a poll. fyi

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

59 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:51:40pm

‘Nite, all.

60 Skeetghazi  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:51:45pm

re: #46 Lidane

Misleading people about President Obama and the Dems = A-OK

Misleading people about the GOP = That’s a paddlin’ fireable offense

Ya nailed it.

61 krypto  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:52:16pm

How can anyone get fired on Fox news for always being wrong?
Since when did truth or accuracy count there?

62 austin_blue  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:53:22pm

re: #61 krypto

How can anyone get fired on Fox news for always being wrong?
Since when did truth or accuracy count there?

When it gets to the point of embarrassing charade.

63 Single-handed sailor  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:53:33pm

re: #61 krypto

How can anyone get fired on Fox news for always being wrong?
Since when did truth or accuracy count there?

See #46

64 Skeetghazi  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:53:34pm

re: #53 Gus

Good thing they identified it as unmanned. I was wondering there for a second. :D

re: #54 jaunte

“UK Downsizes Army!”

Reminds me of that really weird Twilight Zone when the farmer lady was invaded by the small spaceship etc.

65 Gus  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:54:10pm

re: #64 Skeetghazi

re: #54 jaunte

Reminds me of that really weird Twilight Zone when the farmer lady was invaded by the small spaceship etc.

OMG. That one is awesome.

66 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:54:43pm

re: #57 austin_blue

Now, now, at this point, it’s *weather*. Don’t go all taxfreekiller on us. If they have to move the Iditarod to the North Slope in five years, however…

But your point is very well taken. Strange days indeed.

We’ve been in the upper 70’s most of the last week.

Since her husband sometimes races in the Iditarod, do you think this might finally pound a clue into Sarah Palin’s brain?

/half sarc

67 Mich-again  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:57:43pm

Say what you want about Dick Morris, those Budweiser commercials he did back in the day with those other frogs were hilarious..

68 austin_blue  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:57:59pm

re: #66 Dark_Falcon

Since her husband sometimes races in the Iditarod, do you think this might finally pound a clue into Sarah Palin’s brain?

/half sarc

No way, you betcha, eh?!?

69 Single-handed sailor  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:58:58pm

re: #67 Mich-again

Say what you want about Dick Morris, those Budweiser commercials he did back in the day with those other frogs were hilarious..

You mean “Wise” and “Er”?

70 HoosierHoops  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 8:59:55pm

re: #68 austin_blue

No way, you betcha, eh?!?

The weather has been nice here…

71 Skeetghazi  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:00:14pm

re: #66 Dark_Falcon

Since her husband sometimes races in the Iditarod, do you think this might finally pound a clue into Sarah Palin’s brain?

/half sarc

Gah, I know this info….help me.

Todd sometimes rode in the Iron Dog, the one on machines. It was actually funny, the last time he rode, his snowmobile had sponsored/ had the logos of the Venezuelan Oil company and all that. Viva Hugo!!

The I Killed A Dog is via pups, not machines.

72 austin_blue  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:00:31pm

re: #67 Mich-again

Say what you want about Dick Morris, those Budweiser commercials he did back in the day with those other frogs were hilarious..

Umm…Charles was insulting *toads* not frogs.

Sheesh. Some people…

73 jaunte  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:00:37pm

Happy Birthday, Richard Feynman: The Key to Science in 63 Seconds

To celebrate, here is one of Feynman’s most beloved classics, a 1964 lecture in which he distills with equal parts wit and wisdom the essence of the scientific method:

“In general, we look for a new law by the following process: First we guess it; then we compute the consequences of the guess to see what would be implied if this law that we guessed is right; then we compare the result of the computation to nature, with experiment or experience, compare it directly with observation, to see if it works. If it disagrees with experiment, it is wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science. It does not make any difference how beautiful your guess is, it does not make any difference how smart you are, who made the guess, or what his name is — if it disagrees with experiment, it is wrong.”

74 Mich-again  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:00:41pm

re: #61 krypto

How can anyone get fired on Fox news for always being wrong?
Since when did truth or accuracy count there?

Dick Morris was a Clintonista. The Fox hounds are looking forward to 2016 and wondering if his old loyalties may come back. They can’t have a chicken in the Fox house.

75 Lidane  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:02:18pm

re: #72 austin_blue

Umm…Charles was insulting *toads* not frogs.

Sheesh. Some people…

Don’t forget the gator:

76 austin_blue  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:03:15pm

re: #70 HoosierHoops

The weather has been nice here…

I want a good, hard, 22 degree freeze here to kill off the bugs. Like fleas. The last time we had a winter like this, the little fucking blood suckers came boiling out of the ground. Skeeters, too.

77 Mich-again  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:03:20pm

re: #72 austin_blue

Umm…Charles was insulting *toads* not frogs.

Sheesh. Some people…

That picture at the top of the thread is kind of amphibuous. Can’t really tell if its a toad or a frog.

78 Skeetghazi  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:03:42pm

re: #75 Lidane

Don’t forget the gator:

[Embedded content]

Aw memories. !!!!

79 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:05:44pm

Just playing around with playlists and I realize I have 301 hours of MST3k

80 Mich-again  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:05:51pm

re: #70 HoosierHoops

The weather has been nice here…

We’re having a real Winter here for a change. Like that guy in the song says.. Every day I’m shoveling.

81 Gus  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:05:52pm

Related.


82 austin_blue  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:06:11pm

re: #75 Lidane

Don’t forget the gator:

[Embedded content]

Oh dear, I had forgotten that travesty of commercial air time. SO not thank you for sharing.

//

83 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:14:10pm

re: #74 Mich-again

Dick Morris was a Clintonista. The Fox hounds are looking forward to 2016 and wondering if his old loyalties may come back. They can’t have a chicken in the Fox house.

I don’t think Hillary Clinton likes him very much, not since he called her a lesbian.

84 HoosierHoops  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:14:31pm

re: #76 austin_blue

I want a good, hard, 22 degree freeze here to kill off the bugs. Like fleas. The last time we had a winter like this, the little fucking blood suckers came boiling out of the ground. Skeeters, too.

The summer sucks.. You come home from work and the insects are lined up like at studio 54 with the velvet ropes and bouncers to get in… And those dang air wings of flying critters can’t be stopped flying in. I’m beginning to understand why you need a shotgun in Oklahoma for home security.
/

85 Single-handed sailor  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:17:04pm

I’m eagerly awaiting the bug season.

86 jaunte  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:17:19pm

Six square miles of obsidian, 100 feet deep:
[Link: earthobservatory.nasa.gov…]

Obsidian—sharp-edged, translucent, and lustrous—is one of the most distinctive volcanic rocks. Its unique glassy properties result from a disordered structure: the atoms are irregular, like a liquid. Whereas crystalline materials like ice, diamonds, or granite have atoms arranged in repeating patterns, obsidian and other types of glass retain an irregular pattern because the atoms are frozen in place as the material solidifies. This can happen if a liquid is cooled very quickly (quenched in water, for example), or if it is so thick that the atoms have trouble moving through the fluid. Therefore extremely viscous, slow-moving lavas sometimes harden into obsidian.

It’s an amazing planet.

87 freetoken  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:19:03pm

The churn of ignorance about all things too esoteric continues unabated… and as an example I bring up what I briefly mentioned last night about the newly published paper re-dating some of the Neanderthal artifacts from Spain. What was determined to a better accuracy is the age of the remains, dating them from before (at least, from what evidence exists) the arrival of modern humans into the Iberian penninsula.

Well, AP went an ran a story that leapt on this and proclaimed that therefore modern humans could not have mated with Neanderthals.

Well, the illogic of the AP story is pretty clear - the PNAS published paper reports on just one geographic region. Modern humans and Neanderthals had overlapping geographic domains much earlier, but not in what we today call Spain. And of course the AP story ignored the genetic evidence.

Anyway, the point of me writing about this is how these poorly written or just wrong news wire stories can live on. Sure enough RawStory runs with it:

Study suggests Neanderthals and modern humans never crossed paths

[…]

By comparison, humans are not believed to have come into existence until 42,000 years ago, placing a substantial gap between the species.

[…]

That is just false, and what RawStory is doing is just republishing a blog entry from somewhere, from somebody who relied upon the AP story.

We humans are especially prone to spreading falsehoods - perhaps some ancient adaptation for survival? - and all too often just regurgitating what someone else has written is simply spreading misinformation.

Which is why I encourage people to not just cut and paste a story which catches their eye, to make a Page. Doing some work and understanding the provenance of the “information” is important.

88 Gus  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:19:11pm

re: #86 jaunte

Six square miles of obsidian, 100 feet deep:
[Link: earthobservatory.nasa.gov…]

It’s an amazing planet.

Mine it and make products! //

89 austin_blue  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:20:37pm

re: #84 HoosierHoops

The summer sucks.. You come home from work and the insects are lined up like at studio 54 with the velvet ropes and bouncers to get in… And those dang air wings of flying critters can’t be stopped flying in. I’m beginning to understand why you need a shotgun in Oklahoma for home security.
/

Are you still you going to be in SubNorman this summer? If so, you have *got* to get one of these:

[Link: www.safehomeproducts.com…]

Along with Deep Woods Off, Skin So Soft, and a 10-horsepower electric fan, those things are just killer bee!

90 jaunte  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:21:18pm

re: #88 Gus

Knifemakers’ supplies for 1,000 generations.

91 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:21:37pm

re: #87 freetoken

The churn of ignorance about all things too esoteric continues unabated… and as an example I bring up what I briefly mentioned last night about the newly published paper re-dating some of the Neanderthal artifacts from Spain. What was determined to a better accuracy is the age of the remains, dating them from before (at least, from what evidence exists) the arrival of modern humans into the Iberian penninsula.

Well, AP went an ran a story that leapt on this and proclaimed that therefore modern humans could not have mated with Neanderthals.

Well, the illogic of the AP story is pretty clear - the PNAS published paper reports on just one geographic region. Modern humans and Neanderthals had overlapping geographic domains much earlier, but not in what we today call Spain. And of course the AP story ignored the genetic evidence.

Anyway, the point of me writing about this is how these poorly written or just wrong news wire stories can live on. Sure enough RawStory runs with it:

Study suggests Neanderthals and modern humans never crossed paths

That is just false, and what RawStory is doing is just republishing a blog entry from somewhere, from somebody who relied upon the AP story.

We humans are especially prone to spreading falsehoods - perhaps some ancient adaptation for survival? - and all too often just regurgitating what someone else has written is simply spreading misinformation.

Which is why I encourage people to not just cut and paste a story which catches their eye, to make a Page. Doing some work and understanding the provenance of the “information” is important.

Neither the AP nor Raw Story cares about the science. In a very real sense, what they both want out of that story is the same thing Fox News would want out of it: To make as big of a splash with it as possible in order to get people to come to the site and read it, thus gaining advertiser dollars.

Follow the money…

92 jaunte  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:22:08pm

re: #88 Gus

Here’s that volcano erupting:
Image: Puyehue%20Volcano%20-%20Lightning.jpg

93 Gus  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:22:58pm

re: #92 jaunte

Here’s that volcano erupting:
Image: Puyehue%20Volcano%20-%20Lightning.jpg

Fer reals?

94 jaunte  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:24:21pm

re: #93 Gus

From here:
[Link: www.google.com…]

95 Gus  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:25:14pm

re: #94 jaunte

From here:
[Link: www.google.com…]

Wild.

96 freetoken  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:25:49pm

And speaking of anthropology, I see that National Review has found them a favorite writer on the subject:


Razib Khan on Cultural Anthropologists

He [Razib Khan] rips into them and weighs in on on their criticisms of Jared Diamond (whose The World until Yesterday I reviewed in a recent NR) […]

In case anyone has not heard the news, a few days ago some special interest groups who work with indigenous groups around the world (who have not integrated into modern society) took Jared Diamond to task for Diamond’s insistence that many groups’ cultures included self-limiting practices that we, in our modern society, would consider barbaric.

Anyway, that NRO likes Razib Khan ought not be a surprise, given Khans association in the past with very dodgy characters.

97 jaunte  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:26:16pm

re: #95 Gus

June 15, 2011:

[Link: www.theatlantic.com…]

98 HoosierHoops  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:27:14pm

re: #89 austin_blue

Are you still you going to be in SubNorman this summer? If so, you have *got* to get one of these:

[Link: www.safehomeproducts.com…]

Along with Deep Woods Off, Skin So Soft, and a 10-horsepower electric fan, those things are just killer bee!

Hi There! I’m getting there after taxes and other details get worked out. I’ve been dumping money into the place for about 6 months now..I can’t believe it some days.

99 austin_blue  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:27:27pm

re: #87 freetoken

The churn of ignorance about all things too esoteric continues unabated… and as an example I bring up what I briefly mentioned last night about the newly published paper re-dating some of the Neanderthal artifacts from Spain. What was determined to a better accuracy is the age of the remains, dating them from before (at least, from what evidence exists) the arrival of modern humans into the Iberian penninsula.

Well, AP went an ran a story that leapt on this and proclaimed that therefore modern humans could not have mated with Neanderthals.

Well, the illogic of the AP story is pretty clear - the PNAS published paper reports on just one geographic region. Modern humans and Neanderthals had overlapping geographic domains much earlier, but not in what we today call Spain. And of course the AP story ignored the genetic evidence.

Anyway, the point of me writing about this is how these poorly written or just wrong news wire stories can live on. Sure enough RawStory runs with it:

Study suggests Neanderthals and modern humans never crossed paths

That is just false, and what RawStory is doing is just republishing a blog entry from somewhere, from somebody who relied upon the AP story.

We humans are especially prone to spreading falsehoods - perhaps some ancient adaptation for survival? - and all too often just regurgitating what someone else has written is simply spreading misinformation.

Which is why I encourage people to not just cut and paste a story which catches their eye, to make a Page. Doing some work and understanding the provenance of the “information” is important.

I love you, man…

100 austin_blue  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:28:24pm

re: #98 HoosierHoops

Hi There! I’m getting there after taxes and other details get worked out. I’ve been dumping money into the place for about 6 months now..I can’t believe it some days.

So, Northern Cali is the destination?

101 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:29:18pm

re: #96 freetoken

And speaking of anthropology, I see that National Review has found them a favorite writer on the subject:

Razib Khan on Cultural Anthropologists

In case anyone has not heard the news, a few days ago some special interest groups who work with indigenous groups around the world (who have not integrated into modern society) took Jared Diamond to task for Diamond’s insistence that many groups’ cultures included self-limiting practices that we, in our modern society, would consider barbaric.

Anyway, that NRO likes Razib Khan ought not be a surprise, given Khans association in the past with very dodgy characters.

NRO’s dislike of Diamond is more based on Victor Davis Hanson’s open disagreement with the thesis Diamond presents in Gun, Germs, and Steel.

102 efuseakay  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:35:03pm

Hey, Jim Hoft… Fox News has an opening!

103 HoosierHoops  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:38:03pm

re: #100 austin_blue

So, Northern Cali is the destination?

No..After months of searching around with the list of places I want to go forever.. Cali, NY, Florida, over seas, etc..Every week I posted about Pro’s and Con’s. I never want to work again so taxes and expenses played a big park. I found a place in the middle of nowhere, Paradise, They don’t even deliver mail there. Slow DSL and hopefully a slow peaceful life.

104 Mich-again  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:40:26pm

re: #103 HoosierHoops

No..After months of searching around with the list of places I want to go forever.. Cali, NY, Florida, over seas, etc..Every week I posted about Pro’s and Con’s. I never want to work again so taxes and expenses played a big park. I found a place in the middle of nowhere, Paradise, They don’t even deliver mail there. Slow DSL and hopefully a slow life and peace..

Paradise as in Paradise Michigan in the Upper Peninsula?

105 austin_blue  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:43:59pm

re: #104 Mich-again

Paradise as in Paradise Michigan in the Upper Peninsula?

I lived in Marquette for three years. Early Winter, Winter, Late Winter, and the Fourth of July Weekend is not my ideal as Paradise. And that 144” of snow per winter was one mean bitch kitty.

106 HoosierHoops  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:44:04pm

re: #104 Mich-again

Paradise as in Paradise Michigan in the Upper Peninsula?

Outside of here.. :)
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

107 freetoken  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:44:21pm

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

NRO’s dislike of Diamond is more based on Victor Davis Hanson’s open disagreement with the thesis Diamond presents in Gun, Germs, and Steel.

In this case the writer isn’t really commenting on Diamond, but simply using the brouhaha over Diamond’s latest statements as a leaping off point to agree with Razib Khan’s dismissal of contemporary cultural anthropologists.

108 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:48:38pm

re: #107 freetoken

In this case the writer isn’t really commenting on Diamond, but simply using the brouhaha over Diamond’s latest statements as a leaping off point to agree with Razib Khan’s dismissal of contemporary cultural anthropologists.

Diamond was the person I knew about, so that the direction I went in. Please excuse the error.

I’ve got to pack it in. Good Night, All.

109 Gus  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:49:28pm
110 I Am Kreniigh!  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:49:38pm

Hello lizards,

Going back a few posts, I’m considering that Kindle Fire… I have not owned a tablet to this point, just a Droid phone, laptop, etc. Would that be a good one to start out with? I mainly need it to display PDFs at the gaming table, and watch videos in various formats. It appears to support MP4, but there’s no mention of AVI or MKV… I’m used to running Media Player Classic in Windows, which is fairly omnivorous.

Whaddaya think, sirs?

111 jaunte  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:50:54pm

re: #109 Gus

Tonal quando quer ser, modal quando preicsa ser, cromático tanto quanto necessário, ou mesmo atonal como a própria natureza universal da música.

What he said.

112 austin_blue  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 9:52:38pm

re: #106 HoosierHoops

Outside of here.. :)
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

Oh, brrr.

And a tune for the deep, dark, north country:

113 chadu  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 10:05:25pm

re: #87 freetoken

I’m looking for the best book on Neanderthals availalble now. Looking for basic, willing to go medium, scared about deep science.

Any suggestions?

114 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 10:10:57pm

modern humans

i don’t care how modern they are, i ain’t buying any until the bugs are worked out

115 freetoken  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 10:14:04pm

re: #113 chadu

My impression today is that the research is coming in too quickly for the printing of books which don’t become OBE within a couple of years.

There are a couple of books on hominins, now a couple of years old, but which are insightful.

One of them is called “The Last Human” by Sawyer and Deak, which reviews about 22 different species. Now out of date, but it still can help understand why anthropologists lump certain finds into this or that “species”. There was another book whose title I can’t remember right now, but included hundreds of photos of fossils, explaining why they are assigned to this or that species.

One can’t discuss Neanderthals without discussing the rest of the family, as it is not clear how clear the species’ boundaries were.

The online expert, for the generally educated reader, would be John Hawk’s blog - given his experience in teaching on the subject his blog has pedagogically useful entries.

116 freetoken  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 10:16:51pm

I also reviewed here a while back one of Chris Stringer’s latest books, which covered the topic of Neanderthals among others. He’s mentioned in the latest AP story that is misleading people.

Stringer has a long history at being at the center of the controversy over how we relate to Neanderthals, and if we moderns evolved in Africa first then moved out, or if we evolved in some sort of multi-regional fashion.

117 austin_blue  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 10:21:29pm

re: #113 chadu

I’m looking for the best book on Neanderthals availalble now. Looking for basic, willing to go medium, scared about deep science.

Any suggestions?

When in doubt, go here:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

Check out their links for general backgrounders (the Smithsonian is an excellent source). That will give you enough info to start asking the questions you *really* want answered. If you’ve got a decent University in town with a lending library, go there and find a science geek librarian.

The info is there. You just have to drill down to what you want to know. Librarians are beautiful people. It’s their job, after all, to help you find what you need.

It’s one of the reasons I sometimes hate the interwebs. The amount of data is intimidating, especially for you youngsters who look at me like I’m an alien when I say “Dewey Decimal Card System.”

And by the way, get the hell off of my lawn!

Night all. Sweet scaly dreams.

118 freetoken  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 10:21:31pm

I see that the Texastan SBOE is at it again:

Texas Board of Education Chair Suggests Schools Teach ‘Another Side to the Theory of Evolution’

Barbara Cargill, whom Rick Perry picked to chair the State Board of Education, is upset that a curriculum used by several Texas schools called CSCOPE, which has been at the center of right-wing conspiracy theories, doesn’t teach students about alternative theories to evolution. As first reported by the Texas Freedom Network, Cargill said that publishers and CSCOPE should teach “another side to the theory of evolution.”

TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!!

119 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 10:21:47pm

Saving the Republican Party

“No, Mr. Bond - I expect you to die!”

120 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 10:23:00pm

re: #118 freetoken

I see that the Texastan SBOE is at it again:

Texas Board of Education Chair Suggests Schools Teach ‘Another Side to the Theory of Evolution’

[Embedded content]

TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!!

So, Cthulhu it is then.

121 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 10:24:47pm

“Dewey Decimal Card System.”

i want to replace it with the duodecimal system

if you can’t count in base 12, stay out of libraries

122 Gus  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 10:33:54pm

There.

Karma: -600
jackw33

123 engineer cat  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 10:47:46pm

re: #113 chadu

I’m looking for the best book on Neanderthals availalble now. Looking for basic, willing to go medium, scared about deep science.

Any suggestions?

Dump the Neanderthal; Choose Your Prime Mate by Dr. John V. Farrar

i’m pretty sure this is not the book you had in mind

124 klys  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 10:59:03pm

re: #86 jaunte

It’s a fascinating read, although they get a number of things incorrect. I am not terribly surprised, since glass is a misunderstood material. If it’s flowing, it’s not glass. Glass doesn’t have a melting temperature, it has a glass transition temperature. :)

The interior of the flow is still a melt (i.e., super-cooled liquid below the crystallization point, although I can’t say for sure if the interior is totally super-cooled in this case since rock/glass can be a fantastic thermal insulator). The outside, however, is a glass - hence the breaking noises.

125 EdDantes  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 11:06:48pm

Dick Morris is and has been a Yutz.

126 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 11:22:07pm

re: #124 klys

It’s a fascinating read, although they get a number of things incorrect. I am not terribly surprised, since glass is a misunderstood material. If it’s flowing, it’s not glass. Glass doesn’t have a melting temperature, it has a glass transition temperature. :)

My high school chemistry teacher taught me otherwise, but then again, he hated me and made me sit behind the air hood so he wouldn’t even have to look at me…

Thank you for bringing back that repressed trauma…

127 Single-handed sailor  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 11:25:29pm

Penis!
/this was too good not to share.

128 klys  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 11:27:07pm

re: #126 Sol Berdinowitz

My high school chemistry teacher taught me otherwise, but then again, he hated me and made me sit behind the air hood so he wouldn’t even have to look at me…

Thank you for bringing back that repressed trauma…

I hear a lot of the misconceptions about glass. I even used to believe some of them.

Apologies for the (now not) repressed trauma, though.

129 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 11:29:20pm

re: #128 klys

I hear a lot of the misconceptions about glass. I even used to believe some of them.

Apologies for the (now not) repressed trauma, though.

I was a nerd who skipped the second grade. And I was the only sophmore (freshman age) in a chemistry class full of juniors and seniors. I am sure that in a setting with others of my own age group, I would have been only moderately obnoxious, but as it was, I stuck out like a sore thumb.

130 klys  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 11:36:05pm

re: #129 Sol Berdinowitz

I was a nerd who skipped the second grade. And I was the only sophmore (freshman age) in a chemistry class full of juniors and seniors. I am sure that in a setting with others of my own age group, I would have been only moderately obnoxious, but as it was, I stuck out like a sore thumb.

I was a little too enthusiastic about chemistry for my chemistry teacher, I think. I sort of got the feeling she was glad to see the last of me.

131 freetoken  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 12:19:11am
132 EdDantes  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 12:34:52am

The doldrums.

133 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 12:48:41am

on the freetoken drip

134 Mentis Fugit  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 12:50:16am

re: #132 EdDantes

The doldrums.

Day after day, day after day,
We stuck, no breath no motion;
As idle as a painted ship
Upon a painted ocean.

135 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 12:57:46am
136 EdDantes  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 12:58:03am

re: #134 Mentis Fugit

water, water everywhere and all the boards did shrink,
water water everywhere nor any drop to drink.

137 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 1:01:26am
138 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 1:07:37am

re: #134 Mentis Fugit

Day after day, day after day,
We stuck, no breath no motion;
As idle as a painted ship
Upon a painted ocean.

Look what you made me do.

139 freetoken  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 3:12:37am
140 Aligarr  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 3:23:53am

Morris can always get a job with Victoria’s Secret .

141 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 3:37:10am

re: #140 Aligarr

Morris can always get a job with Victoria’s Secret .

Nope

CNN
On his website, Morris said he’ll be appearing on CNN’s Piers Morgan show Wednesday to talk politics.
[Link: hosted.ap.org…]

Scuttle butt here in Broadcast Land is that it’s trial run for a recurring role

142 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 3:43:56am

re: #141 sattv4u2

Nope

CNN
On his website, Morris said he’ll be appearing on CNN’s Piers Morgan show Wednesday to talk politics.
[Link: hosted.ap.org…]

Scuttle butt here in Broadcast Land is that it’s trial run for a recurring role

Dicks like that always land on both feet, I suspect he strarted scouting around as soon as the Romney “landslide” did not materialize

143 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 3:52:02am

First, what does Charles have against toads?

second, this one is rather cute. Although the adult version looks like some arctic transportation beast one might see enshrined in artwork on some fantasy or sci-fi paperback cover.

third, Yes, it is morning again.

fourth: How is everyone

144 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 3:53:54am

re: #142 Sol Berdinowitz

Dicks like that always land on both feet, I suspect he strarted scouting around as soon as the Romney “landslide” did not materialize

Being on TV is only a being “human ad” for his election consulting service(s). He’s still cashing in from being on the team during the two Clinton presidential wins. Much of his work is done outside if the US

145 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 3:54:04am

re: #124 klys

It’s a fascinating read, although they get a number of things incorrect. I am not terribly surprised, since glass is a misunderstood material. If it’s flowing, it’s not glass. Glass doesn’t have a melting temperature, it has a glass transition temperature. :)

The interior of the flow is still a melt (i.e., super-cooled liquid below the crystallization point, although I can’t say for sure if the interior is totally super-cooled in this case since rock/glass can be a fantastic thermal insulator). The outside, however, is a glass - hence the breaking noises.

TMI

:0

146 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 3:55:29am

re: #114 engineer cat

modern humans

i don’t care how modern they are, i ain’t buying any until the bugs are worked out

Good luck with that, they all have original sin, by design.

147 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:11:35am
148 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:15:37am

re: #147 FemNaziBitch

Explains a lot.

Keep in mind

There are many “black” churches here in the south that fall into that category also

[Link: religions.pewforum.org…]

149 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:17:36am

notice the light yellow areas

from my most recent Pages Post.

150 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:19:35am

re: #149 FemNaziBitch

notice the light yellow areas

from my most recent Pages Post.

Notice the purple area(s) (from my point in 148)

151 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:20:58am

re: #150 sattv4u2

Notice the purple area(s) (from my point in 148)

which purple.

It may be because I only slept for 3 hours, but I’m not getting your point on the Pew report. It doesn’t seem to state that the AA churches are Evangelical.

152 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:22:07am

re: #150 sattv4u2

Notice the purple area(s) (from my point in 148)

Then again, I just read the background article., so we may be coming at this from different perspectives.

153 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:22:10am

re: #151 FemNaziBitch

which purple.

It may be because I only slept for 3 hours, but I’m not getting your point on the Pew report. It doesn’t seem to state that the AA churches are Evangelical.

On the right, the color chart

Top one

“African American”

154 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:23:36am

re: #149 FemNaziBitch

notice the light yellow areas

from my most recent Pages Post.

No Juice.

Babushka haz a sad.

155 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:23:53am

re: #153 sattv4u2

On the right, the color chart

Top one

“African American”

So the South seems pretty evenly divided by those who self-identify as American and those who self-identify as Afrikan-American.

Yes, interesting.

156 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:24:31am

re: #154 Vicious Babushka

No Jews.

Babushka haz a sad.

Does the census have a box for Jews under “ancestry”?

157 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:24:46am

re: #155 FemNaziBitch

So the South seems pretty evenly divided by those who self-identify as American and those who self-identify as Afrikan-American.

Yes, interesting.

But the “Americans” are not “Native Americans” so they had to come from somewhere else. Scots-Irish?

158 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:26:08am

re: #156 FemNaziBitch

Does the census have a box for Jews under “ancestry”?

I don’t remember. Probably not, or they wouldn’t have to commission independent surveys to obtain that demographic.

If there was no Juice box, I suppose we would have checked “other”

159 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:29:19am

I think I made a huge leap in thought processes by posting the charts with out posting the article first. My bad.

Here is the paragraph from the article that links the maps.

Two maps illustrate the demographic distinctiveness of the white South. The first shows the close correlation of evangelical Protestantism with the states of the former Confederacy. The second map is even more revealing. It shows the concentration of individuals who identified themselves to census takers as non-hyphenated “Americans.”

160 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:31:07am

re: #157 Vicious Babushka

But the “Americans” are not “Native Americans” so they had to come from somewhere else. Scots-Irish?

being here (in the south) I find that (by and large) caucasians here don’t identify themselves with where there grandfathers grandfathers came from (unlike my 40+ years in Boston where there are still large enclaves of ethnic communities like The North End =’s Italian and South Boston =’s Irish, etc )

161 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:31:28am

re: #158 Vicious Babushka

I don’t remember. Probably not, or they wouldn’t have to commission independent surveys to obtain that demographic.

If there was no Juice box, I suppose we would have checked “other”

My Jewish adopted parents insist that Jewish is a religion not an ethnicity. Even tho both are “ethnically” Jews as well as religiously observant Jews.

I quit trying to understand along time ago.

162 iossarian  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:31:38am

re: #153 sattv4u2

On the right, the color chart

Top one

“African American”

That is a good point (that African Americans can also be evangelical protestants), but if you look at Alabama, Texas and Georgia, it’s apparent that the concentration of EP is higher in those counties with a higher white population.

Besides, the more general point is that regardless of race, EP presence is strongly correlated with GOP voting patterns.

163 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:33:33am

re: #162 iossarian

the more general point is that regardless of race, EP presence is strongly correlated with GOP voting patterns.

Perhaps because the ‘pollsters” don’t include black EP’s when doing their exit polling (they include them as African American, not by religion, but when polling whites they, the pollsters, ask what faith they ID with)

164 iossarian  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:34:06am

re: #160 sattv4u2

being here (in the south) I find that (by and large) caucasians here don’t identify themselves with where there grandfathers grandfathers came from (unlike my 40+ years in Boston where there are still large enclaves of ethnic communities like The North End =’s Italian and South Boston =’s Irish, etc )

I’ve thought about that, and I wonder whether (to put it a bit crudely) it’s because “the South”, post-Civil War, gives low-status whites an oppressed background to identify with, whereas in “the North”, you have to go back to Ireland, Poland etc. to find that source of oppression.

165 iossarian  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:34:38am

re: #163 sattv4u2


the more general point is that regardless of race, EP presence is strongly correlated with GOP voting patterns.

Perhaps because the ‘pollsters” don’t include black EP’s when doing their exit polling (they include them as African American, not by religion, but when polling whites they, the pollsters, ask what faith they ID with)

Maybe it’s because black people don’t get to vote as much in the South?

166 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:37:38am

re: #165 iossarian

Maybe it’s because black people don’t get to vote as much in the South?

Not from my observations. Been here 14 years now and (especially) in national elections, the lines at polling places are long. My district is about 75% black thats exactly what I see at the polls on election day (as well as polling stations I drive by on my way to/ from work)

167 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:37:57am

re: #161 FemNaziBitch

My Jewish adopted parents insist that Jewish is a religion not an ethnicity. Even tho both are “ethnically” Jews as well as religiously observant Jews.

I quit trying to understand along time ago.

Jewish is an ethnicity, since many people who identify as Jewish are not religious, and Jews did not usually identify primarily from the region of their origin.

If we identified by region, then I would be Russian and Zedushka would be Palestinian.

168 iossarian  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:38:14am

re: #163 sattv4u2


the more general point is that regardless of race, EP presence is strongly correlated with GOP voting patterns.

Perhaps because the ‘pollsters” don’t include black EP’s when doing their exit polling (they include them as African American, not by religion, but when polling whites they, the pollsters, ask what faith they ID with)

Is that actually the case (that they don’t ask African Americans for their religion)?

Seems a bit surprising, but then pollsters seem to report “white protestant” as a religious category, so maybe they don’t bother with AA religious subdivisions, as you say.

169 iossarian  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:39:25am

re: #166 sattv4u2

Not from my observations. Been here 14 years now and (especially) in national elections, the lines at polling places are long. My district is about 75% black thats exactly what I see at the polls on election day (as well as polling stations I drive by on my way to/ from work)

I was slightly kidding. The black/minority vote is obviously suppressed in certain places, but of course in any given county, if the population is majority black, then that’s what you’ll “see” at the polls.

170 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:42:01am

re: #168 iossarian

Is that actually the case (that they don’t ask African Americans for their religion)?

Seems a bit surprising, but then pollsters seem to report “white protestant” as a religious category, so maybe they don’t bother with AA religious subdivisions, as you say.

They must as many are shocked to find out there are Black Catholics and Jews.

Even Catholics I know don’t realize it.

171 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:42:18am

re: #168 iossarian

Is that actually the case (that they don’t ask African Americans for their religion)?

Seems a bit surprising, but then pollsters seem to report “white protestant” as a religious category, so maybe they don’t bother with AA religious subdivisions, as you say.

I got polled twice (post election) while here (in the south) and after a few basic questions asked if I was affiliated with a religion ((in 30+ years of voting in the north, not once))

I have a neighbor who is black as well as a friend who is black and ran for local office. Neither was asked the religion question

((this is why this topic interests me because we, me, the neighbor and the friend, had had this discussion) ((( btw ,, the neighbor is a Dem and the friend who ran for office ran as a Repub)))

172 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:43:40am

re: #170 FemNaziBitch

Even Catholics I know don’t realize it

The ones in my parish do

Our congregation is at least 20% black

173 iossarian  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:44:56am

re: #171 sattv4u2

It probably depends on the pollster to some extent. A population survey would have to ask everyone, but if a political pollster has decided that religion’s only a deciding factor for whites, then they might be the only group to get that question. When each question costs $X, you have to decide what’s important.

174 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:47:15am

re: #173 iossarian

It probably depends on the pollster to some extent. A population survey would have to ask everyone, but if a political pollster has decided that religion’s only a deciding factor for whites, then they might be the only group to get that question. When each question costs $X, you have to decide what’s important.

And there’s the rub

With the AA population consistently voting 90-95% Dem there’s no reason (in the pollsters minds) to delve further the “why”

Where the “white” vote is split, they (the pollsters) want to break down the “how come”

175 iossarian  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:49:47am

Anyhoo - some real-world data analysis is needed now. BBL.

176 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 5:24:32am

re: #167 Vicious Babushka

Jewish is an ethnicity, since many people who identify as Jewish are not religious, and Jews did not usually identify primarily from the region of their origin.

If we identified by region, then I would be Russian and Zedushka would be Palestinian.

And it gets trickier if you want to include ancestral home language.

177 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 5:25:09am

re: #176 Decatur Deb

And it gets trickier if you want to include ancestral home language.

In both of our cases: Yiddish, which was not the language of the country of origin.

178 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 5:26:47am

re: #177 Vicious Babushka

In both of our cases: Yiddish, which was not the language of the country of origin.

Language might be the most important identifier of all. (Except cooking, of course.)

179 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 5:34:08am

re: #178 Decatur Deb

Language might be the most important identifier of all. (Except cooking, of course.)

The Language Of Love is universal !!!

//

180 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 5:41:14am

DUMBASS, IT’S WINTER.

181 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 5:42:18am

Good morning Lizards!

Clear and a bit below freezing this morning in Philly-land. (Where according to some the national symbol is a crying sports fan.)

Anyone a reader of Charlie Stross’ “Laundry” series? SF (secret history genre) mix of bureaucracy, spies, IT tech, and Lovecraftian horror. Just finished _The Fuller Memorandum_ last night and some of the earlier comments in this thread sort of reminded me of that. :)

182 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 5:46:25am

re: #180 Vicious Babushka

DUMBASS, IT’S WINTER.

He’ll keep warm since the stupid burns.
:p

183 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 5:47:11am

Off to visit Mom in the hospital.

Have a great one all!

184 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 5:47:30am

re: #180 Vicious Babushka

DUMBASS, IT’S WINTER.

He does get extra points, though, for Godwining the weather.

185 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 5:50:55am

re: #176 Decatur Deb

And it gets trickier if you want to include ancestral home language.

Trickier still if you start working in further human mobility. For example, some of the Pilgrims self-exiled to the Netherlands before coming to the New World. And in more modern times you get people who have children while working overseas who thus often have dual citizenship.

So I guess it would depend on what you’re trying to track, residency, or cultural heritage. And since the latter is taught and not genetic, that can take odd hops pretty easily.

186 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 5:52:24am

re: #185 Feline Fearless Leader

All taxonomy is fiction.

187 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 5:53:21am
188 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 5:53:49am

re: #186 Obdicut

All taxonomy is fiction.

Are you alinnanean or anti-linnanean?

189 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 5:54:51am

Ah well

Back to Conference Call Hell

190 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 5:55:43am

re: #186 Obdicut

All taxonomy is fiction.

Good point. It’s essentially trying to box or pigeon hole a spectrum.

191 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 5:57:00am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Woke up to find that Morris was released from Fox news. Yes, Dick, your services are no longer warranted.

Can’t imagine why. Maybe being so incredibly wrong in your projections and prognostication was finally hitting home with the Fox News higher ups who realized that being that wrong could be bad for business.

Then again, they’ll probably replace him with someone who’s younger, shinier, and has great gams. That’s the Fox way.

In any event, it’s no great loss for me since I haven’t watched Fox News in years, except to watch the excerpts of their stupendously wrong predictions.

192 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 5:58:13am

re: #189 sattv4u2

Ah well

Back to Conference Call Hell

waaaahhhhh! (Sound of me being sucked into a conference call as well.)

193 Mattand  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 6:10:19am

re: #191 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Woke up to find that Morris was released from Fox news. Yes, Dick, your services are no longer warranted.

Can’t imagine why. Maybe being so incredibly wrong in your projections and prognostication was finally hitting home with the Fox News higher ups who realized that being that wrong could be bad for business.

Then again, they’ll probably replace him with someone who’s younger, shinier, and has great gams. That’s the Fox way.

In any event, it’s no great loss for me since I haven’t watched Fox News in years, except to watch the excerpts of their stupendously wrong predictions.

That’s one of the myriad things I don’t get about Fox News. Somewhere, someone must have known that all of the “promote only the polls that show Romney winning” was a bad idea. But that conflicts with Fox’s primary purpose: rake in tons of ad money by promoting the conservative POV as “news.”

So they bring on idiots like Morris, Palin, et. al., to relentless cheerlead and then ditch them when reality sets in. I mean, it’s not like they’re going to replace them with people who are more rational. Eric Erickson’s recent hire is a prime example of that.

I guess at the end of the day, you won’t go broke selling this fantasy world Fox has concocted to conservatives who, over the last 20 years or so, have had their heads in the sand.

I guess if people keep supporting a political party that fights evolution, ignores Constitutional law like Roe v Wade, and worships guns like Jesus, they don’t really care about how messed up their only “news” source is.

194 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 6:12:12am

re: #193 Mattand

That’s one of the myriad things I don’t get about Fox News. Somewhere, someone must have known that all of the “promote only the polls that show Romney winning” was a bad idea. But that conflicts with Fox’s primary purpose: rake in tons of ad money by promoting the conservative POV as “news.”

So they bring on idiots like Morris, Palin, et. al., to relentless cheerlead and then ditch them when reality sets in. I mean, it’s not like they’re going to replace them with people who are more rational. Eric Erickson’s recent hire is a prime example of that.

I guess at the end of the day, you won’t go broke selling this fantasy world Fox has concocted to conservatives who, over the last 20 years or so, have had their heads in the sand.

I guess if people keep supporting a political party that fights evolution, ignores Constitutional law like Roe v Wade, and worships guns like Jesus, they don’t really care about how messed up their only “news” source is.

They’re not looking for truth, they are looking for reinforcement of their chosen belief set. FOX caters to that, and thus gets to rake in the advertising income that goes with those programs.

195 Interesting Times  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 6:14:51am
196 JeffFX  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 6:18:26am

re: #194 Feline Fearless Leader

They’re not looking for truth, they are looking for reinforcement of their chosen belief set. FOX caters to that, and thus gets to rake in the advertising income that goes with those programs.

You nailed it. An unsophisticated audience is a goldmine to advertisers.

197 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 6:21:51am

re: #196 JeffFX

You nailed it. An unsophisticated audience is a goldmine to advertisers.

Not necessarily unsophisticated. Just not looking to be intellectually challenged in that area and/or very willing to accept emotional-based programming in those areas. I know FOX-bots that are well educated and outside of certain no-go areas are *very* rational about most topics. Just don’t wander into the mental minefields.

198 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 6:21:55am

Two Godwins in a row!


199 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 6:48:49am

Good morning lizards!

200 makeitstop  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 6:51:40am

Teh Godwinz, dey kilt teh thredd.

201 Gus  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 6:52:31am

-662

202 dragonath  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 6:54:07am
203 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 6:55:16am

HAV MOAR GODWIN

204 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 6:58:16am

re: #203 Vicious Babushka

HAV MOAR GODWIN

Does that dolt realize that he just Godwined his own position? It’s Obama that wants to spend ‘the citizens’ money on the helpless, and the TPGOP that does not.

205 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 6:58:18am

4 arrested in Egypt after shoe thrown at Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

CAIRO — Egypt’s security arrested four men who were protesting outside a Cairo mosque, where the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was praying.

The men, including a Syrian, belong to the ultra-conservative Sunni Salafist movement.

One man threw a shoe at Ahmadinejad, a Shiite, who was never in any danger.

Heh.

206 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:01:22am

BBL

207 Gus  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:02:33am
208 Gus  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:03:26am

Finally, many people are waking up.

L. Ron Assange

209 Gus  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:04:03am

Oh. Her.

210 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:04:51am

re: #204 Decatur Deb

Does that dolt realize that he just Godwined his own position? It’s Obama that wants to spend ‘the citizens’ money on the helpless, and the TPGOP that does not.

The wingnuts believe that “Obamacare” means DETH PANELZ.

211 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:07:20am

re: #208 Gus

Finally, many people are waking up.

L. Ron Assange

I different Assange…

YOKO ONO GIVES JULIAN ASSANGE A SPECIAL AWARD FOR BRAVERY

212 Sionainn  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:09:25am

re: #201 Gus

-662

I just noticed that I have a top comment for the first time!

213 Gus  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:09:43am

re: #211 NJDhockeyfan

I different Assange…

YOKO ONO GIVES JULIAN ASSANGE A SPECIAL AWARD FOR BRAVERY

Last night reminded me of something. While I’ve been so busy looking at wingnuts on the right that I’ve been ignoring how many weirdo, and delusional moonbats we have on the left. Maybe it’s the Vicodin.

214 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:11:47am

re: #201 Gus

Racing to the bottom I see. Already maximizing its stay on bottom comments. Outstanding work, at that.

I was surprised to see Charles leave it around. Banhammer for it and aigle can’t be too far off, particularly after aiglebot’s last bit of spam about Ed Koch’s obituary in the WaPo being distorted in its choice of headline.

215 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:12:28am

re: #213 Gus

Last night reminded me of something. While I’ve been so busy looking at wingnuts on the right that I’ve been ignoring how many weirdo, and delusional moonbats we have on the left. Maybe it’s the Vicodin.

I just call them all crazy people. I try not to bother breaking them up into their own little groups. Less effort expended that way.

216 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:14:32am
217 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:14:36am

re: #214 lawhawk

Racing to the bottom I see. Already maximizing its stay on bottom comments. Outstanding work, at that.

I was surprised to see Charles leave it around. Banhammer for it and aigle can’t be too far off, particularly after aiglebot’s last bit of spam about Ed Koch’s obituary in the WaPo being distorted in its choice of headline.

Charles said he would leave jackie around for us to laugh at and downding. I wish that Stinky would just club the aigle spambot. The stinklinks that it spams here do not stimulate any productive conversations, just poo fights.

218 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:14:53am

re: #214 lawhawk

Racing to the bottom I see. Already maximizing its stay on bottom comments. Outstanding work, at that.

I was surprised to see Charles leave it around. Banhammer for it and aigle can’t be too far off, particularly after aiglebot’s last bit of spam about Ed Koch’s obituary in the WaPo being distorted in its choice of headline.

I think he decided it was amusing to leave around for a little bit as a Lizard chew toy.

219 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:16:52am

It must suck so bad to be these people. They believe that everything is fake except for the “founding fathers’ quotes” that they Tweet to each other.

220 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:19:51am

re: #214 lawhawk

Racing to the bottom I see. Already maximizing its stay on bottom comments. Outstanding work, at that.

I was surprised to see Charles leave it around. Banhammer for it and aigle can’t be too far off, particularly after aiglebot’s last bit of spam about Ed Koch’s obituary in the WaPo being distorted in its choice of headline.

Bottom and Top 10 comments expire after 24 hours.

221 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:26:19am

re: #213 Gus

Last night reminded me of something. While I’ve been so busy looking at wingnuts on the right that I’ve been ignoring how many weirdo, and delusional moonbats we have on the left. Maybe it’s the Vicodin.

It’s mostly that the left doesn’t tend to elect its moonbats, whereas the right elects the wingnuts.

And gives them cable TV shows.

222 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:29:42am

re: #221 Obdicut

Some of it is electoral in nature. In primaries the GOP has made it its matra that if you lose, it’s because you’re not conservative enough, so they’ve gotten progressively loonier and moving further to the extreme right. That gets amplified in the general elections, and particularly in the 2008 and 2012 presidential elections. In both cases, the GOP candidates were seen as not being sufficiently pure in GOP conservative values, so they lost, rejecting the counter argument that they lost because they were too extreme to the right and weren’t moderate enough.

With Democrats, it’s worked in the opposite direction. If the candidates lose in primaries, it’s because they’re not moderate enough, so it’s a move towards the center.

223 Gus  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:30:45am

re: #221 Obdicut

It’s mostly that the left doesn’t tend to elect its moonbats, whereas the right elects the wingnuts.

And gives them cable TV shows.

Yes. My other option is to leave Twitter then. Or, create lists for the Drone/NDAA people. :D

224 Lidane  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:32:22am

re: #221 Obdicut

It’s mostly that the left doesn’t tend to elect its moonbats, whereas the right elects the wingnuts.

And gives them cable TV shows.

This is true.

After the national humiliation of Mondale in 1984, the centrist and conservative Dems made a deliberate effort to marginalize and kick out the loonies and moonbats. You might have the occasional one in elected office somewhere, but by and large the Dems in power are centrists.

OTOH, the right wing has not only openly appealed to its loonies and worked hard to get them elected, but they built AM talk radio around them and gave them an entire news network.

225 Lidane  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:33:20am

GPS, how the fuck does it work?

226 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:33:54am

re: #216 NJDhockeyfan

In today’s health news…

‘Boob Job’: Egypt’s PM says ‘unclean breasts’ can cause diarrhoea

I’ll volunteer for cleaning duty.

227 Gus  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:34:09am
228 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:34:14am

And yet they still Tweet.

229 Gus  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:34:52am

Dude’s an asshole.

230 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:34:56am

re: #225 Lidane

GPS, how the fuck does it work?

Morans!

231 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:34:56am

I love that little crystal bird tchotchka!

232 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:35:11am

Tunisian opposition leader shot dead

Belaid was a leading member of the Popular Front, a leftist political alliance, and a vocal critic of the Islamist Ennahda party, which leads Tunisia’s government. In a recent television interview on the Nessma satellite channel, Belaid accused Ennahda of giving a “green light” to political assassinations.

The day before his death, Belaid warned that Tunisia could soon be engulfed by political violence, and he called for a national conference to address the subject, Tunisia’s As Sabah daily reported on Wednesday.

Rights groups and leftist politicians like Belaid have accused the Ennahda-led government of being too lax in its approach to political and religious violence.

233 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:35:35am

re: #225 Lidane

GPS, how the fuck does it work?

Someone should market those; e.g. GPS signal blocking cell phone cases.
;)

234 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:35:54am

re: #225 Lidane

Geez louise. Every smartphone has gps features that can be turned off.

On my own smartphone, there’s a standalone gps, VZW location services, and google location services. You can disable any and all, but your phone’s mapping and other apps might not work as well (those that rely on location to provide info, search results, etc.).

Perhaps, this person’s best off getting a tinfoil hat.

235 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:36:13am

re: #224 Lidane

This is true.

After the national humiliation of Mondale in 1984, the centrist and conservative Dems made a deliberate effort to marginalize and kick out the loonies and moonbats. You might have the occasional one in elected office somewhere, but by and large the Dems in power are centrists.

OTOH, the right wing has not only openly appealed to its loonies and worked hard to get them elected, but they built AM talk radio around them and gave them an entire news network.

And now the decades of boosting the loonies has created a monster they can’t effectively kill. Minorities and moderates alike have been marginalized to the point of abandoning the party, leaving the base primarily composed of the nutbars and the libertarian-wannabes (but I repeat myself). Big difference is unlike the Democrats after Mondale, there is no effective means anymore to weed out the nuts. If anything, Citizens United has ensured that they will always have a steady funding source, because somebody will want to use his wealth as leverage to get the GOP leadership to dance to his tune or face a primary.

236 Mattand  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:37:05am

re: #224 Lidane

This is true.

After the national humiliation of Mondale in 1984, the centrist and conservative Dems made a deliberate effort to marginalize and kick out the loonies and moonbats. You might have the occasional one in elected office somewhere, but by and large the Dems in power are centrists.

OTOH, the right wing has not only openly appealed to its loonies and worked hard to get them elected, but they built AM talk radio around them and gave them an entire news network.

That’s what kills me about “moderate” Republicans, particularly the ones who post here. They know that the party is being run by radicals, and they just don’t care.

By supporting the Republicans as they stand now, one basically is endorsing a rejection of both reality and compromise. Yet the “moderates” just shrug their shoulders and go “Eh, what ya gonna do?”

237 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:38:10am

re: #225 Lidane

GPS, how the fuck does it work?

They should just put it under their tinfoil hat. If it keeps out government mind-control radio waves and alien indoctrination rays, I think it can handle GPS./

238 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:38:45am

re: #226 Killgore Trout

I’ll volunteer for cleaning duty.

No, I’m not a gynocologist but, yeah I’ll take a look.

239 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:39:04am

re: #236 Mattand

That’s what kills me about “moderate” Republicans, particularly the ones who post here. They know that the party is being run by radicals, and they just don’t care.

By supporting the Republicans as they stand now, one basically is endorsing a rejection of both reality and compromise. Yet the “moderates” just shrug their shoulders and go “Eh, what ya gonna do?”

Eh, they’re in two camps, at least from where I’m sitting. One camp is the “My team, right or wrong” variety, who will vote Republican and support Republicans under any circumstances. The other is the idealists/dreamers who think that there is some future turning point at which the GOP will have its “come to Jesus” moment and embrace moderation once again.

240 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:39:57am

re: #239 Targetpractice

Eh, they’re in two camps, at least from where I’m sitting. One camp is the “My team, right or wrong” variety, who will vote Republican and support Republicans under any circumstances. The other is the idealists/dreamers who think that there is some future turning point at which the GOP will have its “come to Jesus” moment and embrace moderation once again.

Both equally delusional.
;)

241 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:40:21am

re: #236 Mattand

That’s what kills me about “moderate” Republicans, particularly the ones who post here. They know that the party is being run by radicals, and they just don’t care.

By supporting the Republicans as they stand now, one basically is endorsing a rejection of both reality and compromise. Yet the “moderates” just shrug their shoulders and go “Eh, what ya gonna do?”

A lot of them (Frum?) think they can still save the patient. That’s what gives us a lot of the “well if it’s good for the party” garbage.

242 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:42:58am

re: #225 Lidane

GPS, how the fuck does it work?

Got to stay off the grid, man!

243 RadicalModerate  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:42:58am

re: #202 dragonath

‘Stand-alone’ Star Wars films planned

jar Jar Strikes Back

Given the pedigree of the people they say are responsible for these scripts, I don’t think so.

The films, written by Lawrence Kasdan and Simon Kinberg, will be released between 2015 and 2021, he continued.
[…]
Kasdan has a long association with Lucasfilm, having worked on the scripts of The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi - the second and third instalments of the first Star Wars trilogy.

It’s worth noting that TESB was very much a Kasdan script, while Jedi was shared between him and Lucas. Kasdan also was primary scriptwriter for Raiders of the Lost Ark.

That being said, keep him out of the director’s chair - those efforts have turned out to be disastrous at times.

244 Lidane  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:43:58am

This is what happens when the internet chooses things:

Shocker! Internet Votes Cat as New Monopoly Piece

Image: monopolycat.jpg

245 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:44:36am

re: #244 Lidane

This is what happens when the internet chooses things:

Shocker! Internet Votes Cat as New Monopoly Piece

Image: monopolycat.jpg

Boardwalk will obey the Feline Overlord!

246 darthstar  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:44:39am

re: #225 Lidane

GPS, how the fuck does it work?

The paranoia is strong in that one…

Let me get this straight…you want to have a cell phone (and probably an iPhone because they have an app for fucking everything), but you don’t want to have the GPS enabled because you’re worried about what…a drone strike on you?

247 darthstar  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:45:12am

re: #242 NJDhockeyfan

Got to stay off the grid, man!

And still be able to play Words with Friends.

248 Interesting Times  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:46:26am
249 Bubblehead II  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:46:37am

re: #225 Lidane

More precisely. Radio Waves, How do they work?

Why am I not surprised that this idiot doesn’t know that if you block the GPS signal being received by the phone, you are also going to be blocking the the signal from the cell tower. Might as well turn the phone off.

250 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:47:33am

re: #240 Varek Raith

Both equally delusional.
;)

Plenty of overlap between the camps. The “team players” will respond to accusations that the party is too extreme by offering token signs of moderation as what the party needs to win voters back, while the “moderates” respond to suggestions that they’d be happier in the DNC or a third party with snorts about how they’ll never vote for a Democrat and voting third party is just throwing your vote away.

251 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:47:54am

re: #248 Interesting Times

But…but…Chicago!!

252 darthstar  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:48:10am

re: #244 Lidane

This is what happens when the internet chooses things:

Shocker! Internet Votes Cat as New Monopoly Piece

Image: monopolycat.jpg

They dropped the fucking iron!??!!11ty! I loved that piece. Stable, functional, and it had a nice handle for picking it up and knocking down my brothers’ hotels as I stomped out each number in my roll.

253 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:48:49am

re: #249 Ghost Of The Mare Island Mud Puppy

More precisely. Radio Waves, How do they work?

Why am I not surprised that this idiot doesn’t know that if you block the GPS signal being received by the phone, you are also going to be blocking the the signal from the cell tower. Might as well turn the phone off.

Some moron watched too many spy movies “omg they’re tracking him because of his phone!” They don’t even need the GPS, they can just track the signal if they want.

254 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:49:38am

re: #244 Lidane

This is what happens when the internet chooses things:

Shocker! Internet Votes Cat as New Monopoly Piece

Image: monopolycat.jpg

On mah Boardwalk buildin hotells

255 darthstar  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:50:27am

re: #249 Ghost Of The Mare Island Mud Puppy

More precisely. Radio Waves, How do they work?

Why am I not surprised that this idiot doesn’t know that if you block the GPS signal being received by the phone, you are also going to be blocking the the signal from the cell tower. Might as well turn the phone off.

The feds can turn your phone on remotely and not even wake up the screen. There’s a chip in every phone that allows this. Even taking the battery out doesn’t help. And also the flu shots. They put nano-chips in the vaccine that allow them to track you.

//

256 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:50:31am

re: #252 darthstar

They dropped the fucking iron!??!!11ty! I loved that piece. Stable, functional, and it had a nice handle for picking it up and knocking down my brothers’ hotels as I stomped out each number in my roll.

Who still actually uses an iron? Except for me, that is.

MY SON-IN-LAW!

My baby girl got herself a gem. :)

257 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:50:38am

I own Boardwalk and Park Place.
You argument is invalid.
Ah, the memories.

258 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:50:47am

Ahmadinejad: Iran is already a nuclear power

Iranian president says Tehran has achieved nuke capability, but adds he is uninterested in attacking the “Zionist entity.”

…The world must now relate to Iran as an atomic power, Ahmadinejad told Al-Ahram, as it is “already a nuclear state.” He said that Tehran does not seek a military confrontation with Israel, and did not threaten to strike the “Zionist entity.” In fact, Al-Ahram quoted him as saying, all of Iran’s military capabilities are “defensive”.

“We disagree with the occupation and discrimination and massacres against the people,” he said. “Zionists are playing a special role in deceiving the world and they know what they are doing in the US and Europe. They are taking over the places of wealth, money, and politics in deceiving the world and strive to dominate all of these sectors through the destruction of cultures, economies, and wars.”

You think he has nukes now or is he full of shit?

259 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:51:36am

re: #258 NJDhockeyfan

Ahmadinejad: Iran is already a nuclear power

You think he has nukes now or is he full of shit?

Made of fiberglass.
Like his new stealth plane!

260 Lidane  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:53:16am

re: #257 Varek Raith

I own Boardwalk and Park Place.
You argument is invalid.
Ah, the memories.

Pfft.

Everyone knows the winning strategy in Monopoly is to become a slumlord. Buy the cheap properties (Mediterranean/Baltic and Oriental/Vermont/Connecticut) and build hotels on them as fast as possible. No one will stand a chance. Hehe.

261 geoffm33  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:56:09am

Started watching House of Cards last night. Hooked.

262 darthstar  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:56:34am

re: #256 Vicious Babushka

Who still actually uses an iron? Except for me, that is.

MY SON-IN-LAW!

My baby girl got herself a gem. :)

I iron for my wife all the time…even have a little ironing song I sing for her as I stand nekkid by the board pressing her outfits.

263 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:57:11am

re: #262 darthstar

I iron for my wife all the time…even have a little ironing song I sing for her as I stand nekkid by the board pressing her outfits.

TMI, dude, tmi.

264 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:57:21am

re: #243 RadicalModerate

JJ Abrams is now attached with the directing duties with Star Wars, in addition to bringing balance to the Federation in Star Trek’s reboot.

It means that Slusho and Greg Grunberg will be featured in both. And one could hope for a Jennifer Garner appearance too. /one could only hope.

265 Lidane  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:58:27am

re: #256 Vicious Babushka

Who still actually uses an iron? Except for me, that is.

I need an iron. And a new ironing board. Mine are somewhere in storage from my last move and it’s killing me to have to use the dryer to fluff my clothes before I wear them.

Magic Sizing FTW!

266 darthstar  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:58:40am

re: #263 Varek Raith

TMI, dude, tmi.

If it’s worth doing, it’s worth doing naked.

267 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:58:41am

re: #258 NJDhockeyfan

Ahmadinejad: Iran is already a nuclear power

You think he has nukes now or is he full of shit?

I looked at that earlier. I think it’s just sensational reporting, He seems to be saying they have nuclear technologies (centrifuges, reactors, etc) which is technically correct. We’ll see what happens with the upcoming North Korea nuke bomb test. In the past there have been allegations that the Norks are testing Iranian weapons, so that might be possible this time too.
I don;t think there’s much doubt Iran is working towards a bomb but they’re not there yet.

268 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:00:04am

re: #266 darthstar

If it’s worth doing, it’s worth doing naked.

As Dear Abby used to say, watch the wringer and wear an apron for frying bacon.

269 darthstar  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:00:21am

re: #264 lawhawk

. And one could hope for a Jennifer Garner appearance too. /one could only hope.

As long as she’s not doing a sex scene with Jar Jar Binks.

270 Lidane  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:01:22am

Say goodbye to Saturday mail:

Postal Service plans to end Saturday mail delivery by August

The financially struggling U.S. Postal Service announced Wednesday that it plans to stop delivering mail on Saturdays — but will continue delivering packages — starting Aug. 1.

Unless forbidden to do so by Congress, which has moved in the past to prohibit five-day-a-week delivery, the agency for the first time will delivery mail only Monday through Friday. The move will save about $2 billion a year for the postal service, which has suffered tens of billions of dollars in losses in recent years with the advent of the Internet and e-commerce, officials said.

“The American public understands the financial challenges of the Postal Service and supports these steps as a responsible and reasonable approach to improving our financial situation,” postmaster general Patrick R. Donahoe said at a news conference. “The Postal Service has a responsibility to take the steps necessary to return to long-term financial stability and ensure the continued affordability of the U.S. Mail.”

The postal service plans to continue Saturday delivery of packages, which remain a profitable and growing part of the delivery business. Post offices would remain open on Saturdays so that customers can drop off mail or packages, buy postage stamps, or access their post office boxes, officials said. But hours likely would be reduced at thousands of smaller locations, they said.

271 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:01:40am

re: #269 darthstar

As long as she’s not doing a sex scene with Jar Jar Binks.

Whack my boner with a broom handle, why don’t you.//

272 Lidane  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:02:10am

re: #269 darthstar

As long as she’s not doing a sex scene with Jar Jar Binks.

Here, have a dark side point. In fact, have all the dark side points. Take a few of Varek’s. I’m sure he can spare them. ;)

273 Bubblehead II  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:03:08am

I don’t think I will miss it much.

Postal Service to end Saturday mail service Aug. 5

WASHINGTON (CNNMoney)
The U.S. Postal Service plans to stop delivering and collecting letters and other first-class mail on Saturdays beginning Aug. 5, although packages will continue to be delivered.

It will mark the end of an era for the agency, which started Saturday delivery in 1863.

274 iossarian  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:03:13am

re: #269 darthstar

As long as she’s not doing a sex scene with Jar Jar Binks.

Missa so ronery.

275 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:04:12am

re: #258 NJDhockeyfan

Bluster, as usual. He may have worked some of the enriched uranium above the LEU levels, but how much? No one knows. They’re expanding their centrifuge and enrichment capabilities, as well as spreading them out to avoid targeting for potential disruption attacks by the West.

No one knows whether he’s got usable plans to build a nuke either, let alone a delivery capacity. It’s possible they got a design through the AQ Khan network or via North Korea, but having a design and building one are two distinct challenges.

He could threaten with a bomb in a cargo container but that’s a one-off - since the retaliation would likely result in turning much of Iran’s military sites into ruins. Adapting a nuke to a missile is a different ballgame, as we’ve seen with the Iranian problems with their missile tech.

Similar issues with North Korean claims about nukes and missile tech. The North might have detonated nukes underground but their capabilities to deliver a warhead are less certain.

276 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:04:56am

re: #222 lawhawk

Some of it is electoral in nature. In primaries the GOP has made it its matra that if you lose, it’s because you’re not conservative enough, so they’ve gotten progressively loonier and moving further to the extreme right. That gets amplified in the general elections, and particularly in the 2008 and 2012 presidential elections. In both cases, the GOP candidates were seen as not being sufficiently pure in GOP conservative values, so they lost, rejecting the counter argument that they lost because they were too extreme to the right and weren’t moderate enough.

With Democrats, it’s worked in the opposite direction. If the candidates lose in primaries, it’s because they’re not moderate enough, so it’s a move towards the center.

Which has resulted in the center moving right. It’s why Obama would have been a moderate conservative thirty years ago and today he’s a ‘leftist’ even to ‘moderates’.

277 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:05:26am

re: #274 iossarian

Missa so ronery.

I was thinking of going with that and an Asian porno joke, but I think it would’ve been too offensive.

278 iossarian  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:06:29am

re: #277 Ghost of Tom Joad

I was thinking of going with that and an Asian porno joke, but I think it would’ve been too offensive.

Crude racial stereotyping of speech patterns and sexual characteristics ahoy!

279 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:08:22am

re: #273 Ghost Of The Mare Island Mud Puppy

Weekend service wont particularly be missed, but it is interesting to watch people complain about how their local post office can’t be shuttered because it will mean people have to travel to other locations more distant. Monetizing locations that ought to be closed is something they’ve been working on but local politicians don’t want to see their branches closed, even if it makes sense from a business perspective.

That’s one of the problems with the post office. They’ve got to cut somewhere, and their options are limited all while providing regular service to all corners of the nation even as the need for mail service has declined with e-payments and email generally. First class mail usage has declined tremendously in the past few years, but the infrastructure costs are still there.

Then, there’s the Congressional attitude towards the USPS, including the need to cut costs, workforce, and legacy costs (pensions), even as the need to provide daily service is omnipresent.

That’s all going to have to change.

280 darthstar  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:09:40am

re: #272 Lidane

Here, have a dark side point. In fact, have all the dark side points. Take a few of Varek’s. I’m sure he can spare them. ;)

Remember the time Leia was Jabba’s sex slave? I think it was in part 3 which was really part 6, but they used space-time travel to film the later movies with 8 bit and 16 bit graphics, while the earlier movies in the series were filmed with 32 bit technology. The final film, if it’s ever made, will be a silent movie in black and white.

281 darthstar  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:10:53am

Same sex marriage is ok in the UK.

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282 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:12:31am

re: #281 darthstar

That’s part 1 of the vote. They’ve got to get passage of the proposal in the House of Lords before it becomes official. Still, it’s a monumental change in attitudes and one that should be applauded.

283 Lidane  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:13:02am

Former Westboro Baptist member: We prayed for people to die

From the time she was 8, Libby Phelps Alvarez traveled the country protesting funerals. Like other members of the family-based Westboro Baptist Church, she often crashed the funerals of fallen soldiers.

“They think that they’re fighting for a nation that supports homosexuality,” Alvarez told TODAY, explaining the rationale behind the protests.

Now, Alvarez has left the inflammatory Kansas-based church started by her grandfather and travels the world with her new husband experiencing simple acts once forbidden by her former cult-like religion – like getting a haircut. She also has gotten her ears pierced.

284 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:16:14am

Fun fact;
The USPS if failing specifically because of a requirement the GOP forced on them in 2006ish.

285 Bubblehead II  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:17:38am

re: #279 lawhawk

“Monetizing locations that ought to be closed is something they’ve been working on but local politicians don’t want to see their branches closed, even if it makes sense from a business perspective.”

They did something like that here in Twin Falls. They moved all the sorting to Boise, even mail for local delivery. Did not make the local Pols happy. On the other hand, a couple of private express delivery companies sprang up to fill the perceived gap in mail delivery time.

286 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:20:43am
287 Amory Blaine  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:24:22am

re: #266 darthstar

If it’s worth doing, it’s worth doing naked.

Frying bacon not withstanding

288 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:24:55am

re: #266 darthstar

If it’s worth doing, it’s worth doing naked.

My driveway needs shoveling.

289 Amory Blaine  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:25:28am

re: #288 Vicious Babushka

My driveway needs shoveling.

On our way!!

290 Dr. Matt  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:26:01am

re: #284 Varek Raith

Fun fact;
The USPS if failing specifically because of a requirement the GOP forced on them in 2006ish.

Fun Fact x2: If the USPS didn’t exist, the cost of mailing a birthday card to grandma from New York to Florida would be more expensive than the card itself.

291 Amory Blaine  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:28:36am

re: #290 Dr. Matt

Why FedEx SmartPost?

When you need to ship low-weight packages to residential customers, consider efficient, economical FedEx SmartPost shipping service. By utilizing the U.S. Postal Service® (USPS) for final delivery, FedEx SmartPost reaches every U.S. address, including P.O. boxes and military APO, FPO and DPO destinations. You can even use FedEx SmartPost to ship to Alaska, Hawaii and all U.S. territories.

292 darthstar  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:29:08am

re: #287 Amory Blaine

Frying bacon not withstanding

Yeah…the naked bacon dance isn’t a fun one…I dress for spattering grease. Though I will say I’ve mastered the one handed pouring of hot tea…though it’s become so much of a habit I’m afraid I’ll have muscle memory kick in and cup my balls with one hand when I’m fully dressed at a function and someone offers me a cup of coffee.

293 Dr. Matt  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:29:09am
re: #266 darthstar

If it’s worth doing, it’s worth doing naked.

re: #287 Amory Blaine

Frying bacon not withstanding

Unless you’re into the S&M thing…..just saying….

294 erik_t  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:29:45am

re: #290 Dr. Matt

Fun Fact x2: If the USPS didn’t exist, the cost of mailing a birthday card to grandma from New York to Florida would be more expensive than the card itself.

Well, the cost of mailing a birthday card to Grandma is higher than the cost of the card itself.

It’s simply subsidized by your fellow post office users, because we live in a godless Socialist hellscape.

295 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:30:33am

And yet getting between A WOMAN and her doctor is no problemo for these wingnuts.

296 Amory Blaine  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:30:49am
297 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:33:19am

Somalia jails rape victim, journalist for 1 year

Somalia on Tuesday jailed for one year a woman who said she was raped by security forces and a journalist who interviewed her, saying they were guilty of insulting the state. “We sentence her for offending state institutions by claiming she was raped,” Judge Ahmed Adan told the court in the capital Mogadishu. “She will spend one year in prison after finishing the breastfeeding of her baby.”

Freelance journalist Abdiaziz Abdinuur, who is already in detention, was to begin serving his sentence immediately.

“The court finds that he offended state institutions by making a false interview, and entering the house of a woman whose husband was not present,” the judge added.

Rights groups have condemned the case as “politically motivated”.

298 Bubblehead II  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:36:48am

re: #296 Amory Blaine

Several companies I do business with over the Internet use that service. Orders that would normally take 5-7 days to arrive by traditional (USPS) ground get here in usually 3-4 days.

299 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:38:00am

re: #25 Ming

Now that there’s an opening at Fox News for someone who always gets things wrong, maybe they’ll hire Michael Brown, the head of FEMA during Hurricane Katrina.

Who had the audacity to joke, whine and complain about the power outage at the Superdome during the Super Bowl - making references to Katrina. Amazing!

300 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:39:00am

re: #297 NJDhockeyfan

“She will spend one year in prison after finishing the breastfeeding of her baby.”

In the US if they want to jail a breastfeeding woman, they just put the baby in jail with her.

301 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:39:25am

re: #299 Joanne

Who had the audacity to joke, whine and complain about the power outage at the Superdome during the Super Bowl - making references to Katrina. Amazing!

“Heck of a job, douchebag.”

302 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:39:42am

re: #299 Joanne

Who had the audacity to joke, whine and complain about the power outage at the Superdome during the Super Bowl - making references to Katrina. Amazing!

That guy’s a real assclown. A great reason why you shouldn’t put your cronies in charge of an emergency relief administration.

303 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:42:12am

LGF wasn’t the only place with crazed lizards yesterday.

A park official says two people have been hospitalized after being attacked by a giant komodo dragon that wandered into the office of a wildlife park in eastern Indonesia.

An official at Komodo National Park, Heru Rudiharto, said Wednesday the 2-meter-long (6 ½ foot-long) komodo dragon attacked a park ranger after walking into the office on Tuesday. It then attacked another park employee who came to help him. Both were badly bitten and were evacuated to a hospital on Bali Island.

[…]

304 Political Atheist  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:44:26am

The Post Office thing is thicker than having to pay those retirements monies…
[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

But even if the post office were to get these changes from Congress, including eliminating Saturday delivery and the multibillion-dollar payments on future retiree programs, the agency would still be losing money, it said. Since 2007, it has lost $25 billion — $20 billion of which is attributable to the payments for future benefits, required by law since 2006.

305 darthstar  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:45:31am
306 Amory Blaine  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:46:09am

Americans cry revolt every time the rate goes up a penny. That’s why it’s so fucked up.

307 Dr. Matt  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:46:19am

Another legal, law-abiding gun nut owner exercising her 2nd Amendment Rights by pulling out her gun during a fight at a Chuck E. Cheese

Police say Tawana Bourne, 30, was in possession of a .380 caliber handgun when they arrived at the 3075 Berlin Turnpike restaurant around 8 p.m. in response to an argument involving a firearm.

Bourne was at the restaurant with her child and got into an argument with another woman who was also there with a child, Newington police said.

When police arrived, they separated the two women and seized Bourne’s weapon. She has a valid Connecticut pistol permit for the weapon, police said, which was also seized.

308 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:47:22am

re: #307 Dr. Matt

Another legal, law-abiding gun nut owner exercising her 2nd Amendment Rights by pulling out her gun during a fight at a Chuck E. Cheese

But only “crazy people” do these kind of things. Just ask the NRA! Really, there seem to be a lot of irresponsible gun owners out there.

309 darthstar  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:48:13am

re: #307 Dr. Matt

Another legal, law-abiding gun nut owner exercising her 2nd Amendment Rights by pulling out her gun during a fight at a Chuck E. Cheese

But I have a permit!

We’ll take that too!

Pull a gun at a Chuck E. Cheese? Going to that place is reason enough to revoke your permit.

310 erik_t  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:48:31am

re: #307 Dr. Matt

Another legal, law-abiding gun nut owner exercising her 2nd Amendment Rights by pulling out her gun during a fight at a Chuck E. Cheese

See, she would have been more polite if the other mom had also had a gun. Preferably an AR-15, since those are light and pointable for even the most waif-like woman.

311 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:48:34am

WOLVEREENZ!1!

312 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:49:05am

Hezbollah says bombing allegations are Israeli smear campaign

BEIRUT (Reuters) - Lebanon’s militant Islamist Hezbollah movement on Wednesday dismissed Bulgaria’s accusation that it had carried out a bomb attack that killed five Israelis last year, saying it was part of an Israeli smear campaign.

Deputy Hezbollah leader Naim Qassem said the accusation was part of “allegations and incitements and accusations against Hezbollah” pursued by Israel after it had failed to defeat Hezbollah militarily.

“All these accusations against Hezbollah will have no effect, and do not change the facts,” Qassem said. “We will not submit to these pressures and we will not change our priorities. Our compass will remain directed towards Israel.”

313 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:49:48am

re: #311 Vicious Babushka

WOLVEREENZ!1!

Foreign invasion? You mean the thing that hasn’t happened on the mainland of this country in two centuries? Yes, I’m aware of Japan invading part of Alaska during WWII.

314 erik_t  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:49:58am

re: #311 Vicious Babushka

WOLVEREENZ!1!

@VotingFemale Armed Citizens are a formidable deterrent to foreign invasion. Liberals scheme to end deterrent. #GunRights #NRA #TGDN #rap #p2 #tcot

For Christ’s sakes, China couldn’t invade us if we spotted them the fleet from D-Day.

315 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:50:22am

BITE ME

316 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:50:53am

re: #314 erik_t

For Christ’s sakes, China couldn’t invade us if we spotted them the fleet from D-Day.

They want Red Dawn to be a “based on a true story” so bad and they want even badder to have this fantasy of liberals collaborating with an invading enemy.

317 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:51:00am

re: #308 HappyWarrior

But only “crazy people” do these kind of things. Just ask the NRA! Really, there seem to be a lot of irresponsible gun owners out there.

but given her name she must be a blah person so therefore she’s probably a criminal anyway!

//

318 Dr. Matt  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:51:30am

Little Known Fun Fact: The USPS subsidizes, and by proxy fellow post office users, mailings for corporations/companies and newspapers by giving them bulk rates.

319 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:52:14am

re: #316 HappyWarrior

They want Red Dawn to be a “based on a true story” so bad and they want even badder to have this fantasy of liberals collaborating with an invading enemy.

I seriously want to ask these nuts how an armed citizen could stand a chance against a tank, a fighter/bomber, or armored vehicles in general but it is really a waste of time.

320 Dr. Matt  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:55:00am

re: #319 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I seriously want to ask these nuts how an armed citizen could stand a chance against a tank, a fighter/bomber, or armored vehicles in general but it is really a waste of time.

Besides being completely outgunned, how exactly do these anti-gubbermint 2nd Amendment-types, who are living across 50 states, expect to assemble into an “organized” element?

321 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:55:43am

re: #225 Lidane

GPS, how the fuck does it work?

That one had me literally laughing out loud.

322 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:57:59am

It’s a martyr complex. It’s why they compare Obama to some of the worst people in history and why they compare their “plight” to some of the victims of said people whether they’re European Jews in occupied Europe, Soviet dissidents, etc.The reality is they’re just a bunch of butt hurt wingnuts who can’t stand that their idea of the country is changing.

323 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:58:08am

re: #320 Dr. Matt

Besides being completely outgunned, how exactly do these anti-gubbermint 2nd Amendment-types, who are living across 50 states, expect to assemble into an “organized” element?

I’m sure Twitter will be involved somehow. 1 Tweet if by land, 2 Tweets if by sea or some shit.

324 Bubblehead II  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:59:00am

re: #320 Dr. Matt

Besides being completely outgunned, how exactly do these anti-gubbermint 2nd Amendment-types, who are living across 50 states, expect to assemble into an “organized” element?

Not to mention that as paranoid as they seem, how the hell could they even trust another group, in another State, that they only know through the Internet?

325 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:59:24am

re: #323 Ghost of Tom Joad

I’m sure Twitter will be involved somehow. 1 Tweet if by land, 2 Tweets if by sea or some shit.

Crypto-secure Twitter. Unfortunately the key is always 138 characters.

326 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:00:31am

re: #323 Ghost of Tom Joad

I’m sure Twitter will be involved somehow. 1 Tweet if by land, 2 Tweets if by sea or some shit.

Other than the part where Twitters (and the twits who are up for this craziness) will be tracked by the feds via their Twitter accounts and postings.

327 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:01:04am

Image: sonia_sotomayor-chicagobooksigning-thumb-640xauto-7585.jpg

328 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:02:41am

re: #327 wrenchwench

Image: sonia_sotomayor-chicagobooksigning-thumb-640xauto-7585.jpg

She really is an excellent role model. Did you see the 60 minutes profile on her? She’s a very admirable person.

329 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:03:09am

re: #291 Amory Blaine

Why FedEx SmartPost?

Because the USPS is cheaper. And if the GOP gets its way, all mail, package delivery, etc., will go up exponentially. See how much it will cost to get stuff to rural areas.

330 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:03:49am

re: #328 HappyWarrior

She really is an excellent role model. Did you see the 60 minutes profile on her? She’s a very admirable person.

No, I should look for that when I’m at home…

331 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:04:54am

Anger rises as Fed confirms Anonymous hack, downplays US bank emergency system breach

After Anonymous posted sensitive credentials of over 4,600 banking executives to a government Web site on Super Bowl Sunday, the Federal Reserve acknowledged the attack in a Tuesday morning statement to affected individuals and press.

However, while a spokesperson from the Federal Reserve told The Huffington Post that Anonymous’ claim to the hack’s importance was “overstated,” information security professionals that serve financial institutions are saying the exact opposite—and are not best pleased with the Federal Reserve.

ZDNet has now learned that the compromised and exposed database belongs to The St. Louis Fed Emergency Communications System.

332 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:05:02am

re: #330 wrenchwench

No, I should look for that when I’m at home…

Cool, neat interview with her. It really contrasted positively with the one I saw on Clarence Thomas after Thomas released his book 5-6 years back. She’s very positive despite the shit she’s gotten past and present from assholes who think she’s just made it because of AA.

333 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:05:19am

re: #324 Ghost Of The Mare Island Mud Puppy

Not to mention that as paranoid as they seem, how the hell could they even trust another group, in another State, that they only know through the Internet?

If I were just a little more dishonest, I’d be on RWNJ sites turning up their paranoia one milli-ohm per day. Caught myself starting that here the other night.

No, Patriots, we didn’t encode the rail designs with any transponder characteristics back at Picatinny, I swear.

334 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:07:03am

re: #315 Vicious Babushka

BITE ME

I am thinking he might have missed the results of the last election. Details, man, details. All things in life are in the details.

335 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:07:03am

re: #329 Joanne

Which will perversely and adversely affect all those red counties in the middle of nowhere (like sparsely populated states in the West). And it will hurt the bottom line for many businesses that rely on package delivery (Amazon being just the largest of many). It would also force companies like Amazon to build out their own distribution mode to deliver items in the same kind of timely fashion that we’ve become accustomed to courtesy of the final leg being the USPS in so many instances.

336 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:08:52am

re: #334 Joanne

I am thinking he might have missed the results of the last election. Details, man, details. All things in life are in the details.

These delusional asshats truly believe that SCOTUS will rule in favor of Orly Taitz and overturn the election. They are all a bunch of complete raving birthermaniacs.

337 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:09:29am

re: #202 dragonath

‘Stand-alone’ Star Wars films planned

jar Jar Strikes Back

Ewoks do Dallas.

338 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:09:50am

re: #336 Vicious Babushka

These delusional asshats truly believe that SCOTUS will rule in favor of Orly Taitz and overturn the election. They are all a bunch of complete raving birthermaniacs.

Ok….
Congratulations, President Joe Biden!

339 Lidane  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:10:17am

Yes, because a majority Democratic Senate is going to vote for a bill that outlaws unions nationwide:

340 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:11:31am

When this guy stubs his toe, he blames Obama.

341 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:13:30am

re: #335 lawhawk

Amazon is going to rule the world one day.

342 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:13:32am

re: #340 Vicious Babushka

When this guy stubs his toe, he blames Obama.

9/11 was an inside job!
Roswell!
Moon landing hoax!
Alien lizard overlords!
Albinos!

343 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:14:27am

re: #339 Lidane

Yes, because a majority Democratic Senate is going to vote for a bill that outlaws unions nationwide:

Okay, this actually shows you why Rand Paul is full of shit. He claims that he would have opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 since it was too much federal intrusion but here he is now introducing a federal union busting legislation. What happened to let the states decide shithead? Oh wait, that doesn’t matter when you have your agenda. God I hate this slimy hypocrite. You can be damn sure though that his opponent will make use of this though. Lot of coal miners in Kentucky who really appreciate being able to unionize.

344 William of Orange  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:16:12am

It’s hard to top the joy of Morris’ fall from grace, but here’s a try!

Your daily happy freak out moment!

345 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:16:41am

re: #336 Vicious Babushka

These delusional asshats truly believe that SCOTUS will rule in favor of Orly Taitz and overturn the election. They are all a bunch of complete raving birthermaniacs.

Indeed. But that’s been going on since Obama had the audacity to win in 2008. While I am still offended by these assholes, I mostly read and laugh (especially that douchecanoe Taitz. She cracks me up.)

In this case, I was referring to Bibi’s last win. The hardliners in Israel are not doing quite as well as that guy must think they are. But, I guess that parallels the US, because the TPGOP ain’t doing all that well, either.

346 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:16:44am

re: #343 HappyWarrior

Passing it is absolutely irrelevant to Paul’s political ambitions. Getting it introduced fulfills his mission to build up a “resume” so as to run for the WH. That’s what it’s about. He can then use the fact that he didn’t get it passed as fodder for his followers to push it nationally as an issue in 2016.

347 makeitstop  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:17:59am

re: #344 William of Orange

It’s hard to top the joy of Morris’ fall from grace, but here’s a try!

Your daily happy freak out moment!

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Funny video, but… Semen Tanks? Or am I reading that wrong?

348 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:18:19am

re: #346 lawhawk

Passing it is absolutely irrelevant to Paul’s political ambitions. Getting it introduced fulfills his mission to build up a “resume” so as to run for the WH. That’s what it’s about. He can then use the fact that he didn’t get it passed as fodder for his followers to push it nationally as an issue in 2016.

True enough. I just would love to see his opponent use it to get him beaten in 2016. Not sure how popular he is in Kentucky. I imagine quite unfortunately.

349 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:21:07am

re: #343 HappyWarrior

Okay, this actually shows you why Rand Paul is full of shit. He claims that he would have opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 since it was too much federal intrusion but here he is now introducing a federal union busting legislation. What happened to let the states decide shithead? Oh wait, that doesn’t matter when you have your agenda. God I hate this slimy hypocrite. You can be damn sure though that his opponent will make use of this though. Lot of coal miners in Kentucky who really appreciate being able to unionize.

You’ll Never Leave Harlan Alive

350 darthstar  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:21:24am

re: #315 Vicious Babushka

BITE ME

You will do what Greg tells the Israeli government to tell you to do.
/

351 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:22:10am

KYLEGHAZI SCAMMER

352 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:23:18am
353 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:26:01am

WHAT RIGHT-WING RACISM?

354 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:26:15am

re: #343 HappyWarrior

Okay, this actually shows you why Rand Paul is full of shit. He claims that he would have opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 since it was too much federal intrusion but here he is now introducing a federal union busting legislation. What happened to let the states decide shithead? Oh wait, that doesn’t matter when you have your agenda. God I hate this slimy hypocrite. You can be damn sure though that his opponent will make use of this though. Lot of coal miners in Kentucky who really appreciate being able to unionize.

Republicans are the party of Pick and Choose(tm).

355 Dr. Matt  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:27:31am
re: #353 Vicious Babushka

WHAT RIGHT-WING RACISM?

Dems & Libs call Chris Christie obese but it’s not racist. However, speaking the truth about Obama’s laziness is. #LiberalLogic #tcot #TGDN
— I’m Mex-Cellent (@StLNetworkGuru) February 6, 2013

Obesity = racism? *Facepalm*

356 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:28:25am

re: #350 darthstar

You will do what Greg tells the Israeli government to tell you to do.
/

I just put Greg on the DERP list. Let’s see if he freaks out. Or maybe he’ll see that Dana Loesch and Michelle Malkin are on there and he’ll feel flattered.

357 erik_t  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:28:47am

re: #353 Vicious Babushka

WHAT RIGHT-WING RACISM?

@StLNetworkGuru Dems & Libs call Chris Christie obese but it’s not racist. However, speaking the truth about Obama’s laziness is. #LiberalLogic #tcot #TGDN

Right-wing racism, or right-wing lack-of-two-brain-cells-to-rub-together?

We report, you decide!

358 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:29:13am

re: #355 Dr. Matt

Obesity = racism? *Facepalm*

Because the wingnuts insist that when they say Michelle Obama has a big behind it’s not “racist”

359 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:29:50am

re: #353 Vicious Babushka

WHAT RIGHT-WING RACISM?

Uh because he is obese. And you can’t call Obama lazy when you’re calling him a tyrant for the new gun measures. Stupid right wing twits. Pick a narrative and stay with it.

360 makeitstop  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:30:08am

re: #353 Vicious Babushka

Dems & Libs call Chris Christie obese but it’s not racist.

I got nothin’.

361 William of Orange  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:30:24am

re: #351 Vicious Babushka

KYLEGHAZI SCAMMER

Djeez! The hash tags get more ridiculous over time. Hard to keep up with The acronyms.

362 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:30:38am

re: #359 HappyWarrior

Uh because he is obese. And you can’t call Obama lazy when you’re calling him a tyrant for the new gun measures. Stupid right wing twits. Pick a narrative and stay with it.

If he’s so lazy how did he get to be Hitler?//

363 Dr. Matt  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:31:39am

re: #359 HappyWarrior

Uh because he is obese. And you can’t call Obama lazy when you’re calling him a tyrant for the new gun measures. Stupid right wing twits. Pick a narrative and stay with it.

One moment that screech that he’s doing too many things and the next moment they are screeching that he’s lazy. The circular logic is painful.

364 Lidane  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:33:51am

re: #363 Dr. Matt

One moment that screech that he’s too many things and the next moment they are screeching that he’s lazy. The circular logic is painful.

Meanwhile, Christie himself would probably tell anyone who said that his critics were racist for calling him fat to STFU and go do something productive with their lives.

365 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:35:01am

re: #364 Lidane

Meanwhile, Christie himself would probably tell anyone who said that his critics were racist for calling him fat to STFU and go do something productive with their lives.

I disagree with Christie on a policy level but I have to say I like his attitude sometimes.

366 kirkspencer  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:35:31am

re: #339 Lidane

Yes, because a majority Democratic Senate is going to vote for a bill that outlaws unions nationwide:

being fair it doesn’t outlaw unions.

It just removes all their teeth. In simple, a union can’t negotiate for a closed shop BUT any negotiation a union makes must be for the benefit of all the employees to which the benefit might apply.

Oh, and the cuts also remove the requirement that companies not give non-union members who would receive the benefits of union negotiation greater benefits.

Since that was rather tangled, let me simplify. A union can get all widget-makers a minimum of $X per hour with raises based on experience and additional qualifications. Requirements of law say all widget-makers get the minimum regardless of union membership. Right now the law says that (a) the union can (but are not guaranteed to) get an agreement from the shop that all widget-makers be union members, and (b) the shop will not pay some widget-makers greater amounts than the agreement (especially as a condition of not being union members.)

367 Lidane  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:36:40am

Because nobody had ever heard of Chris Rock before Obama got elected.

Wait, what?

I’m still not sure if this guy is serious or just stupid. Or both.

368 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:37:09am

re: #353 Vicious Babushka

WHAT RIGHT-WING RACISM?

Dems & Libs call Chris Christie obese but it’s not racist.

I do not think that word means what she thinks it means.

369 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:38:10am

re: #367 Lidane

Because nobody had ever heard of Chris Rock before Obama got elected.

Wait, what?

I’m still not sure if this guy is serious or just stupid. Or both.

And the President can determine which entertainers get a top venue and which don’t.

TEH STUPID BURNZ

370 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:38:57am

re: #368 Joanne

I do not think that word means what she thinks it means.

It would be racist if they said “Chris Christie is fat because all white men are fat”

371 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:39:27am

WHAT RIGHT-WING ANTI-sEMITISM?

372 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:39:30am

re: #367 Lidane

Because nobody had ever heard of Chris Rock before Obama got elected.

Wait, what?

I’m still not sure if this guy is serious or just stupid. Or both.

Remember that logic is not their strong suit. It’s too sciencey.

373 dragonfire1981  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:40:07am

re: #297 NJDhockeyfan

Somalia jails rape victim, journalist for 1 year

Wait…so a country with no government has some kind of functional prison system??

374 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:40:22am

ElderofZyklon? Oh jeez.

375 makeitstop  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:42:02am

re: #367 Lidane

Because nobody had ever heard of Chris Rock before Obama got elected.

Wait, what?

I’m still not sure if this guy is serious or just stupid. Or both.

I’m going with the odds. Stupid.

376 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:42:55am

What’s in the Republican drinking water?

More VA GOP dumbassery.

377 Dr. Matt  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:44:07am

re: #367 Lidane

Because nobody had ever heard of Chris Rock before Obama got elected.

Wait, what?

I’m still not sure if this guy is serious or just stupid. Or both.

So, they are admitting that a President Romney would have squashed dissent and free speech…..glad I voted the other way.

378 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:44:11am

OH GOD BOB MARSHALL.

379 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:44:23am

re: #376 Joanne

What’s in the Republican drinking water?

More VA GOP dumbassery.

Somebody tell them that Lee surrendered.

380 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:45:11am

So, Newt’s busy claiming that the only way to solve gun violence is to crack down on gangs and drugs.

Yet, that ignores that someone’s selling them all those guns. Reduce the ability to sell the guns to them, reduce their ability to wreak violence.

The response from his followers was typically predictable:


381 dragonfire1981  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:46:11am

Bryan Fisher going nuts in celebration over a non decision from the Boy Scouts:

382 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:46:23am

re: #380 lawhawk

So, Newt’s busy claiming that the only way to solve gun violence is to crack down on gangs and drugs.

That’s worked so well for Mexico.

383 Lidane  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:47:57am

Here’s another one that I’m adding to the Either Stupid or Poe’s Law pile:

384 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:48:14am

The racists are really swarming out of the woodwork.

385 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:48:25am

re: #379 Vicious Babushka

TN legislature is pushing a bill that would prevent renaming parks that currently honor confederates. Memphis city officials then attempted to head that off with a renaming several of the parks before the legislature could approve the bill that would be sent to the governor.

The council on Tuesday passed a resolution to immediately rename Confederate Park and Jefferson Davis Park in downtown Memphis and Nathan Bedford Forrest Park, which lies just a few miles away. The vote was 9-0 with three members abstaining.

The resolution changes the name of Confederate Park to Memphis Park; Jefferson Davis Park to Mississippi River Park; and Nathan Bedford Forrest Park to Health Sciences Park.

Forrest, a Confederate general and cavalry leader, was a slave trader before the war and the KKK’s first Grand Wizard. He also is accused of massacring dozens of black Union soldiers who tried to surrender at the battle at Fort Pillow in 1864. Davis was president of the confederacy.

“The parks are changed. It’s done,” said Councilman Lee Harris, The Commercial Appeal reported. “We removed controversial names and named them something that is less controversial.”

The new names may be only temporary until more permanent names are chosen, the Memphis Daily News reported.

Council members made no secret of their attempt to vote for and finalize the move, which normally would require three hearings, in order to beat an attempt by two state lawmakers in Nashville to block such name changes.

The city council even voted to approve its minutes Tuesday to prevent the measure from being reconsidered at its next meeting.

The “Tennessee Heritage Protection Act of 2013” bill, already introduced in the state legislature, would prohibit name changes to any “statue, monument, memorial, nameplate, plaque, historic flag display,school, street, bridge,building, park preserve, or reserve which has been erected for, or named or dedicated in honor of, any historical military figure,historical military event, military organization, or military unit” on public property, according toThe Memphis Flyer.

The bill specifically included the “War Between the States,” in its language, a reference to the view that the Civil War was fought between two separate countries.

Anyone remember who actually won the Civil War? It wasn’t the South, except that those in the South think that they did (or should have).

386 erik_t  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:48:35am

re: #381 dragonfire1981

@BryanJFischer BSA board decision today a monster win for the pro-family movement. Hard to overestimate.

“Pro-family”.

Go pleasure yourself in the style that you so vocally decry but so clearly desire.

387 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:48:59am

re: #383 Lidane

Here’s another one that I’m adding to the Either Stupid or Poe’s Law pile:

3 anti-Semitic Tweets in a row. Added to the Racists list.

388 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:49:50am

4 in a row now.

389 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:50:38am

re: #378 Varek Raith

OH GOD BOB MARSHALL.

Pretty much whenever someone posts a story about a crazy Virginia Republican, I usually assume it’s him. Really telling that he nearly was their nominee for Senate against Warner in 2008. But yeah the GOP is “moderating.”

390 Bubblehead II  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:51:15am

re: #376 Joanne

What’s in the Republican drinking water?

More VA GOP dumbassery.

Whatever it is, it seems to have gotten into Utah’s drinking water as well.

Bill would declare Utah gun laws supreme

A bill that would give local law enforcement the authority to arrest federal agents attempting to seize guns from Utah residents was officially unveiled Tuesday — along with an analysis from the state’s legal counsel warning of its likely unconstitutionality.

/// ya think?

391 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:51:22am

re: #380 lawhawk

So, Newt’s busy claiming that the only way to solve gun violence is to crack down on gangs and drugs.blah people

392 Lidane  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:51:25am

re: #387 Vicious Babushka

3 anti-Semitic Tweets in a row. Added to the Racists list.

Oh, gross. I just saw that one. I missed the rest.

393 kirkspencer  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:52:21am

re: #374 Vicious Babushka

ElderofZyklon? Oh jeez.

dug back through his tweets. He’s celebrating the Elhaik publication. Kind of a shame that Ostrer dismboweled that argument(///).

(Expanding. Elhaik of Johns Hopkins University published a study of gene mapping that he says supports the Khazar argument, because of all the central European genes. He dismisses the middle eastern genes also found - something Ostrer (with significantly greater experience and qualification) points out means they are, indeed, Jewish.

In short, Jews dispersed across the world, and there is no one true kind of jew.

394 makeitstop  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:52:24am

Seen on Facebook…

Ted Nugent, Meatloaf and Dave Mustaine walk into a bar…

The bartender says, “Can I be in a different joke, please?”

395 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:53:30am

re: #385 lawhawk

Anyone remember who actually won the Civil War? It wasn’t the South, except that those in the South think that they did (or should have).

That’s the problem. Should have becomes did and truth becomes passe.

396 kirkspencer  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:54:27am

re: #395 Joanne

That’s the problem. Should have becomes did and truth becomes passe.

It boggles me still that we condemn the Nazi banner but allow and even praise the stars and bars.

397 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:54:30am

re: #393 kirkspencer

dug back through his tweets. He’s celebrating the Elhaik publication. Kind of a shame that Ostrer dismboweled that argument(///).

(Expanding. Elhaik of Johns Hopkins University published a study of gene mapping that he says supports the Khazar argument, because of all the central European genes. He dismisses the middle eastern genes also found - something Ostrer (with significantly greater experience and qualification) points out means they are, indeed, Jewish.

In short, Jews dispersed across the world, and there is no one true kind of jew.

The Khazars were pretty badass. They probably carried around Genghis Kahn DNA.

398 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:54:50am

re: #385 lawhawk

TN legislature is pushing a bill that would prevent renaming parks that currently honor confederates. Memphis city officials then attempted to head that off with a renaming several of the parks before the legislature could approve the bill that would be sent to the governor.

Anyone remember who actually won the Civil War? It wasn’t the South, except that those in the South think that they did (or should have).

To these people, it’s not over. Sure, it’s become a cold war, but they’re still fighting it. They won’t stop fighting it, ever.

399 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:56:37am

re: #396 kirkspencer

It boggles me still that we condemn the Nazi banner but allow and even praise the stars and bars.

If the Stars and Bars was a foreign flag, we would but because people want to romanticize what their ancestors did, I think that plays a large part of it. That and people who can’t fucking let go that the CSA lost the war and probably inevitably would have imploded on itself.

400 Gus  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:57:22am

Derp.

401 geoffm33  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:57:32am

re: #381 dragonfire1981

Bryan Fisher going nuts in celebration over a non decision from the Boy Scouts:


402 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:59:03am

re: #385 lawhawk

TN legislature is pushing a bill that would prevent renaming parks that currently honor confederates. Memphis city officials then attempted to head that off with a renaming several of the parks before the legislature could approve the bill that would be sent to the governor.

Anyone remember who actually won the Civil War? It wasn’t the South, except that those in the South think that they did (or should have).

That’s really lame. A bill preventing the renaming of parks? Really there are so many people in this country that need to get over the Civil War. The CSA lost and they lost big and we should be grateful for that. Every day that slavery existed in this country was a blight on the ideals we were founded upon. But you gotta love a bunch of sympathizers of a “country” founded to preserve “states rights” telling localities that they can’t rename their parks if they so wanted to.

403 geoffm33  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:59:19am

Anytime I reply to @BryanJFischer I am going to include that twitpic. Regardless of context.

[Link: twitpic.com…]

404 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 9:59:56am

re: #371 Vicious Babushka

WHAT RIGHT-WING ANTI-sEMITISM?

Because if you’re going for real Nazi-level anti-Semitism, you have to throw in a genocide reference.

Mission accomplished.

405 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:00:00am

Do tell, are the “Sharia squads” going to beat up all the Gays whose marriages the UK just legalized?

406 kirkspencer  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:00:07am

re: #397 Vicious Babushka

The Khazars were pretty badass. They probably carried around Genghis Kahn DNA.

Yes. But that’s not… ok, dunno if you missed it but there’s been a bit of noise from some about “true” jews. Khazars aren’t “true” jews, but were allegedly people who were so impressed by their superiors (the relative handful that fled to that area) that they took up their ways. But in the end they aren’t really of the tribes and so shouldn’t be allowed say in matters of import.

Of utmost significance here is that this tends to be a Palestinian argument against Israel’s right to existence. Since most of the world’s Jews are Khazars they aren’t from Israel and hence aren’t really returning - they’re just seizing land that doesn’t really belong to them.

Yes, the Khazar argument is another run of anti-semitism, mostly.

It’s been partially hijacked by some racists and haredi in Israel, by the way. “Real” jews should have rights not available to the Khazar jews. Really nasty argument even if it is coming from a small (but loud) minority.

407 Sionainn  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:00:52am

re: #252 darthstar

They dropped the fucking iron!??!!11ty! I loved that piece. Stable, functional, and it had a nice handle for picking it up and knocking down my brothers’ hotels as I stomped out each number in my roll.

I liked the iron because it was the most stable piece. I can’t stand those pieces that fall over all the time!

408 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:00:54am

re: #403 Geoff with a G

Anytime I reply to @BryanJFischer I am going to include that twitpic. Regardless of context.

[Link: twitpic.com…]

Love that pic!!

409 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:01:38am

re: #310 erik_t

See, she would have been more polite if the other mom had also had a gun. Preferably an AR-15, since those are light and pointable for even the most waif-like woman.

Would need it to protect her brood from the giant rat that supposedly hangs out there. Not to mention that pack of gangbanging moles that hide out in that box in the corner.
//

410 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:02:40am

re: #406 kirkspencer

Yes. But that’s not… ok, dunno if you missed it but there’s been a bit of noise from some about “true” jews. Khazars aren’t “true” jews, but were allegedly people who were so impressed by their superiors (the relative handful that fled to that area) that they took up their ways. But in the end they aren’t really of the tribes and so shouldn’t be allowed say in matters of import.

Of utmost significance here is that this tends to be a Palestinian argument against Israel’s right to existence. Since most of the world’s Jews are Khazars they aren’t from Israel and hence aren’t really returning - they’re just seizing land that doesn’t really belong to them.

Yes, the Khazar argument is another run of anti-semitism, mostly.

It’s been partially hijacked by some racists and haredi in Israel, by the way. “Real” jews should have rights not available to the Khazar jews. Really nasty argument even if it is coming from a small (but loud) minority.

The Jews lived in many different places so it’s normal to conclude that they picked up some of the host DNA through intermarriage and conversion.

Even if the Khazar story is true (for many years it was dismissed as a myth) it was only a small number of the chieftans that converted, not the entire tribe.

411 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:02:55am

re: #355 Dr. Matt

Obesity = racism? *Facepalm*

He was born that way. Nothing he can do to change it.

//

412 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:03:23am
413 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:03:59am

PETA slams Beyonce for showing too much skin at Super Bowl

Not everyone loved Beyoncé’s Super Bowl halftime show. In fact, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals hated it – or at least, really didn’t like her Rubin Singer-designed outfit, which was mostly leather, but also incorporated iguana and python skin. “We would take a bet that if Beyoncé watched our video exposés … she’d probably not want to be seen again in anything made of snakes, lizards, rabbits, or other animals who died painfully,” PETA said. (For the record, the outfit reportedly did not contain rabbit.) The organization, already unhappy with Beyoncé for wearing mink to the presidential Inauguration, added she’d “missed the mark” on today’s trend toward “humane vegan” clothing.

LOL

414 kirkspencer  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:03:59am

re: #399 HappyWarrior

If the Stars and Bars was a foreign flag, we would but because people want to romanticize what their ancestors did, I think that plays a large part of it. That and people who can’t fucking let go that the CSA lost the war and probably inevitably would have imploded on itself.

It’s not primarily the romanticization. It’s that most of the losers believed they were betrayed and established underground opposition. One of the most effective things done for that cause was the subsequent romanticization, in particular “Birth of a Nation”.

415 Bubblehead II  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:04:31am

re: #412 GhostofHugoChavez

Fuck off.

416 kirkspencer  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:05:16am

re: #410 Vicious Babushka

The Jews lived in many different places so it’s normal to conclude that they picked up some of the host DNA through intermarriage and conversion.

Even if the Khazar story is true (for many years it was dismissed as a myth) it was only a small number of the chieftans that converted, not the entire tribe.

Exactly. But racists and exclusionists (mis)use what they can.

417 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:06:11am
418 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:06:13am

re: #412 GhostofHugoChavez

Tod Kincannon, izat yoo???

419 Lidane  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:06:20am

re: #413 NJDhockeyfan

PETA slams Beyonce for showing too much skin at Super Bowl

LOL

PETA can fuck off.

There are good, valid arguments to be made for a vegetarian diet, and against things like wearing fur, factory farming, animal testing, and fast food. PETA’s more interested in causing drama.

420 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:06:29am
421 GhostofHugoChavez  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:06:41am

r: #415 Ghst f Th Mr slnd Md Pppy

Dd mk wddl bmbt cry? B h.

422 Gus  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:07:15am

re: #412 GhostofHugoChavez

Image: Todd-Kincannon.gif

423 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:07:59am

They’re so cute when they’re all huffy and puffy!

424 Gus  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:08:02am

re: #421 GhostofHugoChavez

Image: Twitchy-Malkin.gif

425 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:08:17am

GhostOfHugo is clearly jealous of jackiew.

426 makeitstop  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:09:23am

re: #425 Vicious Babushka

GhostOfHugo is clearly jealous of jackiew.

Cage match!

427 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:09:53am

re: #419 Lidane

PETA can fuck off.

There are good, valid arguments to be made for a vegetarian diet, and against things like wearing fur, factory farming, animal testing, and fast food. PETA’s more interested in causing drama.

PETA is the Code Pink of vegetarians. They’re so overboard it’s hilarious.

428 makeitstop  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:09:58am

re: #421 GhostofHugoChavez

Did I make widdle Obamabot cry? Boo hoo.

Obamabot? Welcome to 2009.

429 Mattand  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:10:05am

re: #425 Vicious Babushka

GhostOfHugo is clearly jealous of jackiew.

The only real puzzler is if GoH is a sock puppet or a brand new troll.

430 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:10:40am

re: #428 makeitstop

Obamabot? Welcome to 2009.

32 WARSHIPS

431 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:10:49am

re: #429 Mattand

The only real puzzler is if GoH is a sock puppet or a brand new troll.

Charles said last night that it’s a sock but he’s letting it live, at least until Stinky logs in today.

432 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:10:52am

re: #428 makeitstop

Obamabot? Welcome to 2009.

I prefer Obammunist.

433 Interesting Times  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:11:28am

re: #429 Mattand

The only real puzzler is if GoH is a sock puppet or a brand new troll.

Crusty, tattered, reeking sock

434 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:12:24am

re: #433 Interesting Times

Crusty, tattered, reeking sock

Lol.

435 Mattand  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:13:42am

re: #431 Vicious Babushka

Charles said last night that it’s a sock but he’s letting it live, at least until Stinky logs in today.

I confess, I not of this Stinky everyone talk about. Another user with admin privileges?

436 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:15:02am

re: #435 Mattand

I confess, I not of this Stinky everyone talk about. Another user with admin privileges?

Stinky Beaumont is the seekrit ruler of LFG.

437 Gus  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:15:15am

Derpy troll is derpy.

438 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:15:39am

Is that all ya got?
Lame.

439 Bubblehead II  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:16:24am

re: #435 Mattand

I confess, I not of this Stinky everyone talk about. Another user with admin privileges?

Stinky Beaumont is the LGF enforcer. He wields the ban stick.

440 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:16:49am
441 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:17:54am

re: #426 makeitstop

Cage match!

Everybody fights, no one quits. If you do, I’ll kill you myself.

Or.

Celebrity Deathmatch. Good fight. Good night.

442 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:18:04am

re: #413 NJDhockeyfan

PETA slams Beyonce for showing too much skin at Super Bowl

LOL

PETA should stick with what they do best; kill animals.

This fucking piece of shit, degenerate, disgusting organization needs. to. go.

443 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:18:41am

re: #420 Varek Raith

Image: 56b.jpg

Outstanding.

444 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:18:42am

Will Hugo grab at least one slot in the Bottom 10 before Stinky clubs him down?

445 dragonfire1981  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:19:01am
446 dragonfire1981  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:19:27am

re: #443 Joanne

Outstanding.

I totally heard that in the voice of the Mortal Kombat announcer.

447 erik_t  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:19:59am

re: #445 dragonfire1981

MS Bill proposes “School Prayer Amendment” for U.S. constitution

Well, at least they technically know that the only way to make such a proposal legitimate is to pass it as a new amendment.

A lot more damned legislative knowledge than most of these dumbasses.

448 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:20:24am

re: #442 Joanne

PETA should stick with what they do best; kill animals.

This fucking piece of shit, degenerate, disgusting organization needs. to. go.

I knew they killed a lot of animals but I had no idea how many. I just posted a page about it from Douglas Anthony Cooper at HuffPo.

449 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:20:25am

Is “Flawless Victory” for Mortal Trolldom getting a sweep of the Bottom 10 within a 12-hour period?

450 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:20:32am

re: #446 dragonfire1981

I totally heard that in the voice of the Mortal Kombat announcer.

Toasty!

451 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:20:40am

re: #432 Ghost of Tom Joad

I prefer Obammunist.

I always thought Obummer was cute.

452 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:21:14am

re: #445 dragonfire1981

MS Bill proposes “School Prayer Amendment” for U.S. constitution

Another volunteer for my “Get punched in the genitals for wasting our fucking time” program.

453 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:21:16am

re: #449 Feline Fearless Leader

Is “Flawless Victory” for Mortal Trolldom getting a sweep of the Bottom 10 within a 12-hour period?

Should rename it “Flawless Derp.”

454 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:21:34am

re: #433 Interesting Times

Crusty, tattered, reeking sock

Oooh, jackboots! Can I get a pair in purple patent leather?

455 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:21:50am

re: #445 dragonfire1981

MS Bill proposes “School Prayer Amendment” for U.S. constitution

Focused like a laser beam on Jobs and The Economy!

456 dragonfire1981  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:21:55am

re: #453 Ghost of Tom Joad

Should rename it “Flawless Derp.”

Derptacular.

457 Lidane  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:21:56am

That sound you hear is apparently the banhammer being thrown around.

All the trolly posts have disappeared for me.

458 jaunte  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:22:13am

Obamanation, the Antichrist!!!

459 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:22:29am

re: #441 lawhawk

Celebrity Deathmatch. Good fight. Good night.

Oh? Did The Donald do a fly by? /

460 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:22:49am

Yes, it’s been so long I forgot an important rule.
Do not quote the troll.
Use reply instead.
Whoops.

461 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:24:08am

re: #459 Joanne

Naw, he’s still looking to make some media by claiming to sue Bill Maher for $5 million. Over a joke.

462 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:24:13am

…And…

jackie still rules at the bottom!

463 dragonfire1981  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:24:32am

Mississippi is also moving ahead with something called The Women’s Health Defense Act which, as you might have guessed, means they are going after abortion…again.

464 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:24:54am

re: #448 NJDhockeyfan

I did this one on PETA a few weeks ago.

Scum of the earth motherfuckers.

465 Dr. Matt  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:25:00am

re: #460 Varek Raith

Yes, it’s been so long I forgot an important rule.
Do not quote the troll.
Use reply instead.
Whoops.

Duly noted myself.

466 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:25:10am

Anti-Gay, Anti-Immigrant, Birther Groups Join Forces to File Mother of All Prop 8 Briefs

Citizens United’s National Committee for Family, Faith and Prayer filed two no-holds-barred amicus briefs last week, one in defense of Prop 8 [pdf] and one in defense of DOMA [pdf]. They were joined in both by the anti-immigrant groups Declaration Alliance and English First; WorldNetDaily affiliate the Western Center for Journalism; the Institute for Constitutional Values (founded by white supremacist ally Michael Peroutka, who also argues that the solution to school violence is to abolish schools); Gun Owners Foundation (the research wing of Gun Owners of America); the extremely and occasionally comically anti-gay Public Advocate; the birther group U.S. Justice Foundation; Protect Marriage Maryland and others. Far-right Virginia Del. Bob Marshall and Sen. Dick Black joined the DOMA brief. Both are signed by Michael Boos, general counsel of Citizens United, and by Herb Titus, an attorney with a sideline as a birther advocate.

So I guess we shouldn’t be surprised that the filings contain passages like this one, in the Prop 8 brief, arguing that laws against homosexuality affirm rather than deny the humanity of gay people:

Second, while the discrimination against Blacks in America denied them their rightful status as a member of the human race vis-à-vis their white counterparts, the discrimination against homosexuals affirmed their status as full and equal members of the human race. Indeed, the very definition of the “crime against nature,” was employed to emphasize that the sexual behavior condemned was contrary to the law of human nature. Homosexual behavior, then, while unnatural did not mean that those guilty of it were any less human.

467 Interesting Times  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:25:19am

re: #463 dragonfire1981

Mississippi is also moving ahead with something called The Women’s Health Defense Act which, as you might have guessed, means they are going after abortion…again.

Yet another GOP bill from the Orwellian Guide to Creative Naming?

468 makeitstop  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:25:38am

re: #457 Lidane

That sound you hear is apparently the banhammer being thrown around.

All the trolly posts have disappeared for me.

I’m still seeing the ghost-y ones.

469 erik_t  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:26:01am

re: #460 Varek Raith

Yes, it’s been so long I forgot an important rule.
Do not quote the troll.
Use reply instead.
Whoops.

I carefully broke the links in the quote. I’m counting that as partial credit.

470 jaunte  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:26:06am

re: #463 dragonfire1981

Mississippi is also moving ahead with something called The Women’s Health Defense Act which, as you might have guessed, means they are going after abortion…again.

For the GOP rebranding, they’re looking for a new phrase to describe “transparent lying.”

471 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:26:15am

re: #449 Feline Fearless Leader

Nope. It’s babality.

472 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:27:01am

re: #463 dragonfire1981

Mississippi is also moving ahead with something called The Women’s Health Defense Act which, as you might have guessed, means they are going after abortion…again.

“What do you mean War on Women? We’re doing it for the health of women! It says so right in the name!”

473 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:29:06am

re: #461 lawhawk

Naw, he’s still looking to make some media by claiming to sue Bill Maher for $5 million. Over a joke.

Talk about a trial I would pay money to see!

474 Bubblehead II  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:29:32am

re: #457 Lidane

That sound you hear is apparently the banhammer being thrown around.

All the trolly posts have disappeared for me.

Same here as well as replies that quoted it. But the troll/sock is still logged in.

475 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:30:17am

re: #464 Joanne

I did this one on PETA a few weeks ago.

Scum of the earth motherfuckers.

I used to work with a PETA nitwit a few years back. She a nice girl but not very bright.

476 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:30:24am

re: #463 dragonfire1981

Mississippi is also moving ahead with something called The Women’s Health Defense Act which, as you might have guessed, means they are going after abortion…again.

Nice naming, looks like Frank Luntz’s work. /Sigh Leave the womens alone.

477 dragonfire1981  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:30:31am

Interestingly, the Mississippi GOP has not gone after Evolution (yet).

A search on the ms.gov site yielded no relevant results for Evolution or Intelligent Design.

478 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:30:42am

re: #472 Kragar

“What do you mean War on Women? We’re doing it for the health of women! It says so right in the name!”

Taking a page from the authors of the “The Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere”?

479 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:32:17am

re: #475 NJDhockeyfan

I used to work with a PETA nitwit a few years back. She a nice girl but not very bright.

That’s the saddest part, people who truly care about animals having no idea what PETA does in their names.

480 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:33:43am

re: #479 Joanne

That’s the saddest part, people who truly care about animals having no idea what PETA does in their names.

That’s why, if you are going to donate to an animal shelter, donate to a local shelter that you can actually visit.

481 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:35:20am

re: #479 Joanne

That’s the saddest part, people who truly care about animals having no idea what PETA does in their names.

Just uninformed folks who think they’re supporting a good cause by supporting them. Well-intentioned, just ignorant, for the most part anyway. I’d rather throw my support to local adoption centers etc. than huge corps like that anyway. You have a much better chance of seeing the results of your support/donations, and know it’s not going to massive overhead and advertising campaigns.

482 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:35:30am

re: #476 Ghost of Tom Joad

Nice naming, looks like Frank Luntz’s work. /Sigh Leave the womens alone.

Someone did a bit (Stewart? Colbert?) last night or the night before on the Luntzification of the GOP lingo. It was hysterical. They are openly admitting what they are doing - everywhere (on everything). I mean, seriously, you can’t have that effective a propaganda machine if you keep admitting it is propaganda. Openly. (I would do a link but I am in Canada and can’t access Comedy Central.)

But, please GOP…carry on.

483 jaunte  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:35:59am
484 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:36:35am

re: #480 Vicious Babushka

That’s why, if you are going to donate to an animal shelter, donate to a local shelter that you can actually visit.

Beat me to it ;-)

485 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:37:24am
486 Lidane  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:37:29am

WULVEREEEEEEENZ!

487 dragonfire1981  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:38:17am

re: #485 lawhawk

Illinois moves a step closer to legalizing SSM. The full Senate will take up SB 10 on Valentine’s Day after it cleared committee.

No joke, at first I read that as “legalizing S&M” oops.

488 jaunte  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:38:55am

Today in state government time-wasting:


Bill would require all Idaho school kids to read ‘Atlas Shrugged’ to graduate

BOISE — The chairman of the Idaho Senate’s Education Committee, Sen. John Goedde of Coeur d’Alene, introduced legislation Tuesday to require every Idaho high-school student to read Ayn Rand’s “Atlas Shrugged” and pass a test on it to graduate from high school.

When Sen. Bob Nonini, R-Coeur d’Alene, asked Goedde why he chose that particular book, Goedde said to laughter, “That book made my son a Republican.”

489 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:39:29am

re: #463 dragonfire1981

Mississippi is also moving ahead with something called The Women’s Health Defense Act which, as you might have guessed, means they are going after abortion…again.

Sort of like how totalitarian, authoritarian regimes are always called “The Democratic People’s Republic of _____”

490 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:39:35am

re: #486 Lidane

*Gets popcorn*

491 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:39:43am

re: #482 Joanne

Someone did a bit (Stewart? Colbert?) last night or the night before on the Luntzification of the GOP lingo. It was hysterical. They are openly admitting what they are doing - everywhere (on everything). I mean, seriously, you can’t have that effective a propaganda machine if you keep admitting it is propaganda. Openly. (I would do a link but I am in Canada and can’t access Comedy Central.)

But, please GOP…carry on.

It’s gotten to the point where everything they say, name, and propose, pretty much means the exact opposite. Anything that sounds like it’s helping the middle class or poor really fucks them over in favor of the rich. Helping women is anti-choice. Voting rights is restricting participation in elections. Defense is offense. Etcetera.

492 Lidane  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:40:03am

re: #488 jaunte

Today in state government time-wasting:

Bill would require all Idaho school kids to read ‘Atlas Shrugged’ to graduate

I’ll let Officer Barbrady speak for me on this one:

493 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:41:17am

re: #488 jaunte

Today in state government time-wasting:

Bill would require all Idaho school kids to read ‘Atlas Shrugged’ to graduate

“There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”
— Kung Fu Monkey

494 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:41:32am

re: #486 Lidane

Um, no.

495 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:41:57am

re: #486 Lidane

“We could whip them Yankees with corn stalks!”

496 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:42:01am

re: #480 Vicious Babushka

That’s why, if you are going to donate to an animal shelter, donate to a local shelter that you can actually visit.

We get all our pets from the local ASPCA. It is virtually impossible to get a dog or cat from PETA since they kill almost all of them.

497 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:42:21am

re: #492 Lidane

I’ll let Officer Barbrady speak for me on this one:

[Embedded content]

I totally get where he’s coming from.

498 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:47:17am

re: #480 Vicious Babushka

re: #481 Ghost of Tom Joad

That’s what I do. I also periodically rescue dogs. My latest little guy is THE CUTEST GUY EVAH!

And here he’s snoozing.

And this was him at the shelter, my poor little terrified guy before I rescued him.

499 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 10:51:46am

re: #488 jaunte

Today in state government time-wasting:

Bill would require all Idaho school kids to read ‘Atlas Shrugged’ to graduate

[snip]

When Sen. Bob Nonini, R-Coeur d’Alene, asked Goedde why he chose that particular book, Goedde said to laughter, “That book made my son a Republican.”

So indoctrination is Ok now? Or only for your side to use and you to blame the other side for?

500 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 11:18:20am

re: #496 NJDhockeyfan

We get all our pets from the local ASPCA. It is virtually impossible to get a dog or cat from PETA since they kill almost all of them.

Really?

They claim they found homes for 88,000 animals.


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