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Sen. Graham to Sec. Panetta: Obama Didn’t Care About Dead Americans in Benghazi

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The right wing blogs and Republican politicians are still pushing their demented conspiracy theories about Benghazi, and the Daily Caller has yet another stupid post riling up their goonish audience. Every President delegates authority in situations like Benghazi, but for some reason (I bet you can guess what it is) the Republican Party is trying to imply that there’s something special going on when President Obama does it: Panetta Can’t Explain Why Obama Never Called Back During Benghazi Attack [VIDEO] | the Daily Caller.

Panetta can’t explain why Obama didn’t call him (after their initial conversation) because he isn’t Obama and doesn’t want to speak for him. Obviously. So the right takes this statement and tries to make into something sinister.

Sen. Lindsey Graham reveals what’s really underneath these murky insinuations with a question to Sec. Panetta:

SEN. GRAHAM: Mr. Secretary, you didn’t know how long the attack would last. Did you ever call him and say, Mr. President, it looks like we don’t have anything to get there anytime soon?

SEC. PANETTA: The event was over before we could move any assets.

SEN. GRAHAM: It lasted almost eight hours. And my question to you is during that eight-hour period, did the president show any curiosity about how’s this going, what kind of assets do you have helping these people? Did he ever make that phone call?

SEC. PANETTA: Look, there is no question in my mind that the president of the United States was concerned about American lives and, frankly, all of us were concerned about American lives.

SEN. GRAHAM: With all due respect, I don’t believe that’s a credible statement if he never called and asked you, are we helping these people; what’s happening to them?

Yes, that’s right; Lindsey Graham is actually saying that President Obama is not concerned when Americans are killed overseas. It’s an outrageous statement, but totally in keeping with the racist assumptions encouraged by the Republican Party about Obama — that he’s a secret angry black radical who rejoices when terrorists attack America.

This is the deranged thinking behind the Benghazi-gate fake outrage. Sen. Graham feels no hesitation about making such hateful claims, because he knows he’ll be rewarded for it by the GOP base.

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321 comments

1 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 10:46:59am

Keep it up GOP. You’re just reinforcing why you’re too insane to be allowed in power.

2 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 10:50:25am

Not rewarded, but necessary to fend off a primary run in 2014 against a nutter’s who is even more extreme than he is and who would attack Graham for not being even more extremist and sufficiently right wing.

He’s pandering to the extremists to avoid a primary fight.

That’s the underlying premise of the line of questioning.

The showboating and deranged outrage are subordinate to the political necessity that Graham thinks he needs to get reelected to the US Senate from South Carolina in 2014.

3 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 10:53:39am

Remember, Graham is looking at being primaried from the right. Given his track record this is about the only place he can be wingnutty enough to avoid it.

I don’t think he will succeed. I think he’ll still lose his primary to an even wingnuttier challenger, who not only doubles down on Graham’s #benghazi obsession but hits him in all the places he garnered Democratic votes.

If he loses, South Carolina may put a Democrat in the senate. Because the person who overcomes Graham is going to be an Angle type, and South Carolina isn’t that red.

4 engineer cat  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 10:53:54am

Obama Didn’t Care

i never cease to be amazed at the astounding mind reading capabilities of conservatives

i need to tune in to rush more so i can find out what liberals believe

5 RadicalModerate  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 10:54:38am

I see Lindsey Graham is upholding the proud tradition of his predecessor, Strom Thurmond.

*spit*

6 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 10:55:31am

Stay classy, wingnuts

7 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 10:55:44am

I realize its never going to happen, but I’d love to see someone go Scarface from Halfbaked on the GOP during one of these farces.

8 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 10:56:17am

re: #2 lawhawk

That’s actually what I meant by Graham being rewarded by the base. It’s the lowest kind of craven politics.

9 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 10:57:08am
This is the first entry tagged: Boogaloo

Glad we got that party started.

10 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:01:38am

So, let’s see. First the problem was PBO didn’t properly label the Benghazi attack as **terrorist**. Then the problem was something about a video. Then the problem was something about PBO and “real time”. Then the problem was PBO was “asleep”. Now the problem, is, PBO didn’t call a particular person back within a certain time frame?

11 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:01:58am

re: #9 wrenchwench

Glad we got that party started.

Not even an Electric Boogaloo?

I am disappoint.

12 rwdflynavy  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:02:14am
13 BongCrodny  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:02:20am

They seem to be chomping at the bit in order to bring an impeachment charge against the President.

There’s nothing too ridiculous to consider, nothing premise too far-fetched, no rock they won’t look under in their buffoonish behavior in order to smear Obama.

If Graham is what passes for a moderate these days, give me the batshit crazy guys. At least you know what to expect from them.

14 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:03:32am

btw, SC is going to be an interesting state to watch. Lee Bright has indicated that he’s going to challenge Graham. The thing is, both of the South Carolina senator positions will have elections in 2014. Tom Cole Tim Scott (sitting in DeMint’s seat till then) says he won’t be running; he’s a placeholder. And Bright was expected to run for that seat instead.

He’s running for Graham’s seat for two reasons. First, six years instead of two. Second, he thinks that the deMint seat is a lock for a RWNJ while Graham’s “lost his way as a conservative.”

If (and I know it is a big if) the state is lined as I think, that’s a bigger gamble than Bright believes.

15 Robur  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:04:00am

Lindsey…Come out of that closet! If you do you may just be able to see what reality is all about.I can’t wait until the Dems hold a majority in the house so we can get these RiechWing Idiots off of these committees…Michelle BatGuano Gaga on the Intelligence Committee! HorseFeathers!..Paul burn in the pits of Hell Braun on the Science committee!? These people don’t have two agleal cells to fire and yet they hold such positions! Buffalo Bagels!!!

16 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:04:28am

re: #14 kirkspencer

I thought Tim Scott was in DeMint’s Senate seat?

17 Political Atheist  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:07:05am

Just noticed a detail in a photo of the guys patrolling and looking for Dorner. They have “silenced” (Hollywood BS) assault rifles. That means those cops can patrol without ear protection. If they shoot their ears will be ok. I can’t remember the last time I saw those on a cops gun, if ever. Of course that also would make it tough for Dorner to find a cop shooting at him.

18 Ian G.  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:07:10am

OT, but the light rain in lower Manhattan has suddenly changed over to heavy snow, and the wind appears to be picking up considerably. Thank Zeus for the subway system so I don’t have to drive home in this mess.

19 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:07:11am

re: #11 Kragar

Not even an Electric Boogaloo?

I am disappoint.

This must be the Acoustic Boogaloo.

20 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:07:16am

re: #16 Bulworth

I thought Tim Scott was in DeMint’s Senate seat?

It is. My error. Thanks for the fix.

21 Shvaughn  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:07:30am

Is it even the president’s job to keep calling back people after they’ve briefed him? Silly me, I thought they’d contact him if they have something new to tell him about.

22 Mattand  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:08:01am

re: #12 rwdflynavy

Sorry for the OT. Dan Rather on Reddit: No one proved that Bush documents were forged

Discuss….

Covered the other day. General consensus was Rather should let it go.

23 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:08:11am

re: #21 Shvaughn

It’s a new job requirement thought up by the RWNJ brigade.

24 makeitstop  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:08:29am

re: #18 Ian G.

OT, but the light rain in lower Manhattan has suddenly changed over to heavy snow, and the wind appears to be picking up considerably. Thank Zeus for the subway system so I don’t have to drive home in this mess.

Still just rain here on LI, but the wind is getting nasty.

25 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:08:59am

re: #21 Shvaughn

Is it even the president’s job to keep calling back people after they’ve briefed him? Silly me, I thought they’d contact him if they have something new to tell him about.

But if he really cared…..

26 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:10:47am

re: #25 wrenchwench

Actually if he really, really cared he could have gotten his flight suit on and jumped on a drone or taken the iron man suit and headed over there immediately.

//

27 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:11:23am

re: #18 Ian G.

28 Lidane  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:11:51am

No one could have predicted:

29 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:11:52am

Did any of the true patriot americans on the repub side think to ask Panetta if PBO had notified The Avengers about Benghazi?

30 Shvaughn  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:13:00am

re: #27 lawhawk

Multiple accidents on NJ’s Route 287, 78 and New Jersey Turnpike. [Link: cbsloc.al…]

TGDN will be blaming Obama for this any minute now.

31 Ian G.  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:13:00am

re: #28 Lidane

I’ve been waiting for Bryan Fischer’s tweets about how Nemo disproves global warming.

32 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:13:04am

re: #29 Bulworth

Did any of the true patriot americans on the repub side think to ask Panetta if PBO had notified The Avengers about Benghazi?

Or used HAARP to hit Benghazi with a tornado the size of Rhode Island.
//

33 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:13:24am

re: #28 Lidane

No one could have predicted:

Because all that extra water comes from Baby Jesus crying about gay marriage and gun control.

34 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:13:42am

re: #26 Bulworth

Actually if he really, really cared he could have gotten his flight suit on and jumped on a drone or taken the iron man suit and headed over there immediately.

//

…and used those finely honed skeet shooting skills.

35 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:14:29am

re: #34 wrenchwench

…and used those finely honed skeet shooting skills.

Doesn’t sharia law limit him to only shooting infidel clay pigeons though?
//

36 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:16:13am

re: #34 wrenchwench

…and used those finely honed skeet shooting skills.

Don’t knock the skeet shooting.

It was how I used to justify my Call of Cthulhu character, a professor of archaeology and ancient languages, deserved a skill of 85% in shotguns to start.

37 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:17:43am

It’s winter. We’re used to bad snows. They’re supposed to happen during winters. It’s when they happen at unusual times (like the Halloween October storm in 2011), in places that normally don’t get these kinds of storms, or with unusual frequency, that something is up.

That’s what the nutters don’t get.

38 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:19:25am
39 engineer cat  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:20:33am

i find skeet a little tough to digest

can i get scrod?

40 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:20:39am

re: #36 Kragar

Don’t knock the skeet shooting.

It was how I used to justify my Call of Cthulhu character, a professor of archaeology and ancient languages, deserved a skill of 85% in shotguns to start.

Feared slayer of clay golems!

41 stabby  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:20:51am

re: #26 Bulworth

If he REALLY cared he would be a conservative or at least not born a black muslim foreign islamist communist!

He ate dog!

42 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:22:08am

re: #41 stabby

If he REALLY cared he would be a conservative or at least not born a black muslim foreign islamist communist!

He ate dog!

HE’S GOT A SECRET DECODER RING!

43 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:24:28am

re: #40 Feline Fearless Leader

Feared slayer of clay golems!

Never fought one of those.

I was able to convince the GM that even if an extraterrestrial could not be harmed by a blast of buckshot, the actual force of the blast would at least daze it momentarily, which is all you need sometimes.

44 erik_t  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:26:36am

What the fuck does global warming tinhattery have to do with families, exactly?

45 BongCrodny  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:27:19am

re: #28 Lidane

Conservative media love using snow to disprove global warming:

Snow disproves global warming.

Bananas disprove evolution.

What’s next? Cheese disproves gravity?

46 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:27:53am

re: #44 erik_t

What the fuck does global warming tinhattery have to do with families, exactly?

Because actually addressing global warming means you don’t believe in God or some such nonsense.

47 makeitstop  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:28:07am

re: #45 BongCrodny

Snow disproves global warming.

Bananas disprove evolution.

What’s next? Cheese disproves gravity?

It doesn’t?
/

48 stabby  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:28:07am

What does opposing gays and sexual references in culture have to do with families either?

49 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:28:37am

re: #44 erik_t

If global warming is real Al Gore will ban all gas-powered cars which will cause everyone to lose their jobs and thus not have $$ for church.

//

50 makeitstop  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:28:50am

What does Bryan Fischer have to do with anything?

51 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:29:09am

re: #39 engineer cat

i find skeet a little tough to digest

can i get scrod?

That’s what she said.

Words with multiple meanings are so much fun.

52 Lidane  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:29:32am

re: #50 makeitstop

What does Bryan Fischer have to do with anything?

53 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:30:05am

re: #50 makeitstop

What does Bryan Fischer have to do with anything?

He represents a midset that has become a determining factor in GOP primary politics and thus effects the entire nation’s political climate.

We cannot argue with these people, we just have to do our damndest to keep them as far away from political power as we can.

54 stabby  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:30:10am

re: #45 BongCrodny

Snow disproves global warming.

Bananas disprove evolution.

What’s next? Cheese disproves gravity?

It’s funny that the fact that “god made bananas a perfect fit for the hand disproves evolution”

Why doesn’t the fact that God made gays imply that they’re perfect too?

55 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:30:18am

re: #45 BongCrodny

Snow disproves global warming.

Bananas disprove evolution.

What’s next? Cheese disproves gravity?

Silly, balloons disprove gravity.

56 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:30:54am

OT: To give folks an idea of how crazy this storm’s gonna be (and trying to predict snow totals), consider this.

I’m in lower Manhattan, where the weather has been mostly sleet but has switched to snow in bursts. Just a few miles to the north in Central Park, they’ve had accumulating snow. Even further North, and significant accumulations.

57 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:31:00am

re: #54 stabby

It’s funny that the fact that “god made bananas a perfect fit for the hand disproves evolution”

Why doesn’t the fact that God made gays imply that they’re perfect too?

Gays prove the existence of Satan

Don’t you guys understand Divine logic?

58 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:31:05am

re: #10 Bulworth

So, let’s see. First the problem was PBO didn’t properly label the Benghazi attack as **terrorist**. Then the problem was something about a video. Then the problem was something about PBO and “real time”. Then the problem was PBO was “asleep”. Now the problem, is, PBO didn’t call a particular person back within a certain time frame?

This shows that they are not at all concerned, really, about what happened in Benghazi. What they want is some way to get the ni-clang! out of the White House.

Edited to add: Ay. Not enough sleep. I shut up now.

59 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:31:10am

re: #52 Lidane

“Bryan Fischer says Christians shouldn’t participate in interfaith services because President Obama just participated in an interfaith service.”

60 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:31:17am

re: #52 Lidane

OH FOR FUCKS SAKE!

61 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:31:42am

re: #45 BongCrodny

Snow disproves global warming.

Bananas disprove evolution.

What’s next? Cheese disproves gravity?

No, cheese disproves tectonics. Gravity is disproved by rubber gloves.

62 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:31:51am

re: #44 erik_t

What the fuck does global warming tinhattery have to do with families, exactly?

Bears. It all comes back to bears.

/

63 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:32:14am

re: #45 BongCrodny

Snow disproves global warming.

Bananas disprove evolution.

What’s next? Cheese disproves gravity?

Peanut butter proves creationism.

64 Dr. Matt  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:32:32am

re: #54 stabby

It’s funny that the fact that “god made bananas a perfect fit for the hand disproves evolution”

If that’s the case, how the f**k do they explain watermelons???

65 erik_t  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:32:38am

re: #62 lawhawk

Let the bears pay the bear tax. Bryan pays the hatred tax!

66 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:32:41am
67 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:32:42am

re: #52 Lidane

Oh, well if Bryan Fischer said that, then it must be true and we can’t have any interfaith anything. Another victory for radical secular humanism!

68 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:32:46am

re: #57 Sol Berdinowitz

Gays prove the existence of Satan

Don’t you guys understand Divine logic?

It’s all Feline Overlords allowing us distractions since it helps keep us pliable and under control anyways.

69 makeitstop  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:32:54am

re: #56 lawhawk

OT: To give folks an idea of how crazy this storm’s gonna be (and trying to predict snow totals), consider this.

I’m in lower Manhattan, where the weather has been mostly sleet but has switched to snow in bursts. Just a few miles to the north in Central Park, they’ve had accumulating snow. Even further North, and significant accumulations.

It’s switched to snow here. But the snow is falling like rain.

Torrential snow. Pretty weird.

70 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:33:03am

I which Bryan and his ilk would man up and self rapture already.

71 stabby  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:33:13am

Not that my argument is good in itself

72 erik_t  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:33:25am

re: #63 Gus

Peanut butter proves creationism.

Leftovers in the back of my fridge prove abiogenesis.

73 klys  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:33:27am

re: #55 Eventual Carrion

Silly, balloons disprove gravity.

I watched the Mythbusters lead balloon episode again last night. Such fun.

74 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:33:28am

re: #61 Feline Fearless Leader

No, cheese disproves tectonics. Gravity is disproved by rubber gloves.

Really, I thought rubber gloves disprove prostate problems.

75 efuseakay  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:34:35am

re: #42 Kragar

HE’S GOT A SECRET DECODER RING!

B-E-S-U-R-E-T-O-D-R-I-N-K-Y-O-U-R-O-V-A-L-T-I-N-E

(that was a pain to type out on an iPad)

76 BongCrodny  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:35:00am

re: #61 Feline Fearless Leader

No, cheese disproves tectonics. Gravity is disproved by rubber gloves.

Oh yeah, that’s right.

I shoulda paid more attention in nonscience class.

77 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:35:17am

re: #69 makeitstop

You can actually report it to the NSSL via their web page. Even easier with a smartphone (iphone/Droid) - since it embeds the GPS locations for the observations.

The data will help the NSSL figure out what happens close to ground level that radars miss (and can only guestimate based on what their radars see going on several thousand feet in the sky).

It’s a pretty neat application of tech to solve a practical problem. End result is hopefully better forecasting and more accurate storm forecasting for precipitation.

78 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:36:21am

re: #61 Feline Fearless Leader

And paper disproves Spock. /just so we’re all familiar with the rules.

79 erik_t  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:36:41am

re: #78 lawhawk

And paper disproves Spock. /just so we’re all familiar with the rules.

I think paper disproves rock.

80 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:37:34am

re: #79 erik_t

I think paper disproves rock.

I thought that was scissors.

81 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:38:33am

re: #79 erik_t

The rules of Rock-paper-scissors-lizard-Spock are:
Scissors cut paper
Paper covers rock
Rock crushes lizard
Lizard poisons Spock
Spock smashes (or melts) scissors
Scissors decapitate lizard
Lizard eats paper
Paper disproves Spock
Spock vaporizes rock
Rock crushes scissors

82 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:39:26am

re: #81 lawhawk

The rules of Rock-paper-scissors-lizard-Spock are:
Scissors cut paper
Paper covers rock
Rock crushes lizard
Lizard poisons Spock
Spock smashes (or melts) scissors
Scissors decapitate lizard
Lizard eats paper
Paper disproves Spock
Spock vaporizes rock
Rock crushes scissors

Dad says knock that shit off.

83 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:39:56am

re: #79 erik_t

I think paper disproves rock.

Captain Zapp Brannigan: But paper covers rock. And scissors cuts paper. Kif, we have a conundrum. Search them for paper. And bring me a rock.

84 BongCrodny  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:40:24am

re: #81 lawhawk

Spock smashes (or melts) scissors

No, can’t agree with that. Spock would eyebrow the scissors into submission.

85 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:41:07am

re: #84 BongCrodny

Fascinating.

86 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:41:38am

re: #85 lawhawk

Fascinating.

You know what that means?

87 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:41:43am

re: #59 Gus

“Bryan Fischer says Christians shouldn’t participate in interfaith services because President Obama just participated in an interfaith service.”

But the Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod would not want to participate in a prayer service with Bryan Fischer either. So I guess they aren’t Christians then, are they?

:p

88 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:42:31am

re: #87 Feline Fearless Leader

But the Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod would not want to participate in a prayer service with Bryan Fischer either. So I guess they aren’t Christians then, are they?

:p

HERETICS!

89 Ian G.  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:43:47am

re: #45 BongCrodny

Snow disproves global warming.

Bananas disprove evolution.

What’s next? Cheese disproves gravity?

Actually, I read a different one from a wingnut today: homosexuality disproves evolution. On the surface at least, that’s a better one than you usually hear from the wingnuts, since in theory, homosexuals wouldn’t reproduce in the natural world and pass their genes on. At least this guy had a half-baked understanding of how evolution works, which is better than 95% of wingnuts.

90 bubba zanetti  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:44:11am

re: #45 BongCrodny

What’s next? Cheese disproves gravity?

This proves something: 100% cheese grilled cheese sandwich.

Not sure if it’s a loving god, or America Fuck Yeah! But it proves something.

91 Mattand  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:44:46am

Because insulting a trained medical professional in a news conference apparently wasn’t enough.

This is the kind of bullying horseshit Christie engages in that the rest of the country either never sees or interprets as mature leadership skills.

If you think this kind of thin-skinned pettiness would make for a good President, you really need to rethink how you choose your politicians.

92 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:47:27am

re: #86 Kragar

You know what that means?

No, but I surmise you’ll inform the gathering.

93 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:48:30am

re: #89 Ian G.

At least this guy had a half-baked understanding of how evolution works, which is better than 95% of wingnuts.

re: #90 bubba zanetti

This proves something: 100% cheese grilled cheese sandwich.

Not sure if it’s a loving god, or America Fuck Yeah! But it proves something.

Half-baked double cheese sandwich proves it’s lunch time.

94 BongCrodny  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:49:29am

re: #93 wrenchwench

re: #90 bubba zanetti

Half-baked double cheese sandwich proves it’s lunch time.

I wonder what a peanut butter and banana sandwich would disprove.

Elvis?

95 engineer cat  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:50:00am

re: #63 Gus

Peanut butter proves creationism.

ironically, for many centuries evangelicals (and many other people) believed that flies were spontaneously generated by horseshit

these days, some people believe that horseshit is spontaneously generated by evangelicals

96 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:52:31am

re: #95 engineer cat

ironically, for many centuries evangelicals (and many other people) believed that flies were spontaneously generated by horseshit

these days, some people believe that horseshit is spontaneously generated by evangelicals

I see the UK horsemeat scandal is growing.

[Link: todayhealth.today.com…]

97 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:52:41am

re: #91 Mattand

Because insulting a trained medical professional in a news conference apparently wasn’t enough.

This is the kind of bullying horseshit Christie engages in that the rest of the country either never sees or interprets as mature leadership skills.

If you think this kind of thin-skinned pettiness would make for a good President, you really need to rethink how you choose your politicians.

Fat shaming. She’s wrong and she’s a hack.

98 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:53:03am
The Bald Eagle count scheduled for Saturday, Feb. 9, has been canceled.

The cancelation is due to weather and road conditions and the ongoing search for murder suspect Christopher Dorner in Big Bear Valley..

99 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:53:05am

re: #94 BongCrodny

I wonder what a peanut butter and banana sandwich would disprove.

Elvis?

Only if fried.

100 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:53:27am

re: #95 engineer cat

ironically, for many centuries evangelicals (and many other people) believed that flies were spontaneously generated by horseshit

Teach the controversy!

101 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:53:59am



102 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:54:39am

re: #92 lawhawk

No, but I surmise you’ll inform the gathering.

The English word “fascinate” ultimately derives from Latin fascinum and the related verb fascinare, “to use the power of the fascinus”.

The Fascinus is the roman embodiment of the divine penis.

So fascinating means “Check out my awesome dong.”

103 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:54:44am

Would be ironic if the Lizards agreed with this doctor considering the topic of the LVQ debacle.

104 allegro  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:55:01am

re: #91 Mattand

Because insulting a trained medical professional in a news conference apparently wasn’t enough.

This is the kind of bullying horseshit Christie engages in that the rest of the country either never sees or interprets as mature leadership skills.

If you think this kind of thin-skinned pettiness would make for a good President, you really need to rethink how you choose your politicians.

I agree that Christie is a boor with a hair-trigger temper, but the doctor was entirely wrong in making such public statements without having direct knowledge of his health. It was a total exercise in fat-shaming cloaked with “concern.”

105 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:55:07am

Oh, BTW. The doctor is a Republican. Bwahahaha.

106 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:57:22am

re: #91 Mattand

Alright, now he’s losing his shit. I don’t think the doctor should have talked about it in the first place, but he’s freaking out.

107 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:58:31am

re: #103 Gus

Would be ironic if the Lizards agreed with this doctor considering the topic of the LVQ debacle.

Oh, come on. You started this with the peanut butter and bananas on crackers.

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108 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:58:36am

re: #106 Obdicut

Alright, now he’s losing his shit. I don’t think the doctor should have talked about it in the first place, but he’s freaking out.

Meh. If he was a Democrat we’d be defending him throughout.

109 allegro  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:00:01pm

re: #106 Obdicut

Alright, now he’s losing his shit. I don’t think the doctor should have talked about it in the first place, but he’s freaking out.

“Daddy, a doctor on TV said you were going to die! Daddy, I don’t want you to die!”

That’s what I hear his kids saying as a result of this woman’s “concern.”

110 klys  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:01:04pm

re: #104 allegro

I agree that Christie is a boor with a hair-trigger temper, but the doctor was entirely wrong in making such public statements without having direct knowledge of his health. It was a total exercise in fat-shaming cloaked with “concern.”

I am not Christie’s biggest fan either but I agree. From the article:

“I don’t think he realized who he was talking to. I think I’m qualified to make a comment.”

I’m having a hard time finding sympathy for the doctor in all of this. She doesn’t seem to think she’s done anything wrong and that’s …equally wrong.

111 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:01:32pm

re: #108 Gus

Meh. If he was a Democrat we’d be defending him throughout.

I am defending him. However, I don’t think that calling up the doctor and yelling at her is going to accomplish anything or is a good way to behave, either.

The doctor was wrong, and accepting what she did is really dangerous— it basically says that anyone whose got an illness or is dealing with a medical issue isn’t suitable for high office. I don’t agree with that. Teddy Roosevelt, for example, was overweight, asthmatic, and quite possibly manic-depressive, but who gives a shit, he was awesome.

112 Dr. Matt  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:01:34pm

Like cigarette smoking, there is no safe level of obesity.

113 erik_t  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:01:40pm

re: #110 klys

I’m having a hard time finding sympathy for the doctor in all of this. She doesn’t seem to think she’s done anything wrong and that’s …equally wrong.

It’s more wrong. She’s allegedly a professional.

114 Mattand  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:02:55pm

re: #97 Gus

Fat shaming. She’s wrong and she’s a hack.

I’m addressing the fact that he couldn’t let it the fuck go, not the doctor’s actions.

Christie puts the “bully” in “bully pulpit”. I find it frustrating as a NJ resident that people actually celebrate our governor for being a loutish asshole.

I can empathize with his weight problem, and you can argue the doctor was out of line. But to go after her in private after ripping her a new one in a press conference? Fuck that.

115 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:03:30pm

re: #111 Obdicut

I am defending him. However, I don’t think that calling up the doctor and yelling at her is going to accomplish anything or is a good way to behave, either.

The doctor was wrong, and accepting what she did is really dangerous— it basically says that anyone whose got an illness or is dealing with a medical issue isn’t suitable for high office. I don’t agree with that. Teddy Roosevelt, for example, was overweight, asthmatic, and quite possibly manic-depressive, but who gives a shit, he was awesome.

OK. Christie is being Christie.

116 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:04:27pm

re: #108 Gus

Meh. If he was a Democrat we’d be defending him throughout.

Nope. Doctors should know better than to do this kind of diagnosis by clairvoyance. When they do so, it make them look like members of congress.

That said, Christie’s response is not presidential.

117 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:04:44pm

re: #112 Dr. Matt

Like cigarette smoking, there is no safe level of obesity.

There’s no safe level of walking down the street, either, or driving a car, or taking a shower.

Let’s not get ridiculous about this. The vice president should always be treated as a special position. It can never be hand-waved away, if nothing else, because we have a tradition in this country of the president getting assassinated.

118 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:04:56pm

In other news. I almost tripped. Whew.

119 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:05:19pm

Make that tripped but avoided a fall. Stupid. Stupid.

120 Dr. Matt  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:05:38pm

re: #117 Obdicut

There’s no safe level of walking down the street, either, or driving a car, or taking a shower.

Bullshit. 100% bullshit.

Let’s not get ridiculous about this.

You already did by comparing obesity and cigarette smoking to taking a shower.

121 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:06:29pm

In other recurring news. It’s snowing again in Lower Manhattan and starting to stick on surfaces. Streets still clear down here, but that’s not going to last long.

122 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:06:48pm

[Gets popcorn.]

123 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:07:23pm

re: #112 Dr. Matt

Like cigarette smoking, there is no safe level of obesity.

Unlike cigarette smoking, an obese person can not quit food entirely.

People have different metabolisms and process food differently. Ludwig did not believe this simple fact.

124 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:07:36pm

re: #112 Dr. Matt

Like cigarette smoking, there is no safe level of obesity.

A bit of an over simplification. The categories of overweight, obese, and morbidly obese do have substantially different statistical implications.

125 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:07:52pm

re: #120 Dr. Matt

Bullshit. 100% bullshit.

No, it’s not. People die, every day, walking down the street, and in car crashes, and taking showers. If you just look at car crashes, are you seriously telling me that you think someone who doesn’t drive is at as great a risk of dying in a car crash as someone who does?

126 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:07:57pm

re: #121 lawhawk

In other recurring news. It’s snowing again in Lower Manhattan and starting to stick on surfaces. Streets still clear down here, but that’s not going to last long.

Recurring as in Christie pitching a fit? :D

127 erik_t  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:08:04pm

Discussions of weight are apparently the pineapple pizza of LGF discourse.

128 klys  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:08:51pm

re: #127 erik_t

Discussions of weight are apparently the pineapple pizza of LGF discourse.

I want pepperoni. NY style.

129 erik_t  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:09:08pm

re: #128 klys

I want pepperoni. NY style.

NO. IT’LL MAKE YOU FAT.

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130 bubba zanetti  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:09:52pm

brb making 100% cheese cheese pizza

131 klys  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:09:55pm

re: #129 erik_t

NO. IT’LL MAKE YOU FAT.

/

I DON’T CARE, GIMME MY GREASE.

/

God, I miss NY style pizza.

132 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:10:10pm

re: #129 erik_t

NO. IT’LL MAKE YOU FAT.

/

Only when it comes with a 16oz or larger soft drink. /12 oz okay. /Nanny Bloomberg

133 Dr. Matt  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:10:15pm

re: #123 Vicious Babushka

Unlike cigarette smoking, an obese person can not quit food entirely.

No one said an obese person must “quit food entirely.”

People have different metabolisms and process food differently. Ludwig did not believe this simple fact.

Doesn’t change the simple fact that obesity and cigarette smoking are two biggest risk factors for chronic diseases in the US. There is no safe level of smoking. There is no safe level of obesity. Simple facts.

134 Shvaughn  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:10:25pm

I love pineapple + pepperoni pizzas.

135 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:10:32pm

re: #129 erik_t

NO. IT’LL MAKE YOU FAT.

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Too much sodium. We should regulate how pizza is made in restaurants.
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136 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:10:39pm

re: #125 Obdicut

No, it’s not. People die, every day, walking down the street, and in car crashes, and taking showers. If you just look at car crashes, are you seriously telling me that you think someone who doesn’t drive is at as great a risk of dying in a car crash as someone who does?

Bad analogy, for one thing, a person who doesn’t drive can still ride in a car as a passenger, or get hit by a car.

To get closer to the subject of obesity, some cars burn more gas than other cars.

137 klys  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:11:05pm

re: #132 lawhawk

Only when it comes with a 16oz or larger soft drink. /12 oz okay. /Nanny Bloomberg

But what if it’s diet?

138 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:11:09pm

Pineapple? PINEAPPLE?! On pizza?! Burn the heretics!

//

139 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:11:18pm

re: #134 Shvaughn

I love pineapple + pepperoni pizzas.

Well, you’re the devil. Obviously.

140 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:11:31pm

re: #133 Dr. Matt

No one said an obese person must “quit food entirely.”

Doesn’t change the simple fact that obesity and cigarette smoking are two biggest risk factors for chronic diseases in the US. There is no safe level of smoking. There is no safe level of obesity. Simple facts.

The only way to deal with smoking is to NOT SMOKE.

You can’t deal with obesity by NOT EATING.

Is this going to be another Ludwig fail?

141 Dr. Matt  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:11:48pm

re: #125 Obdicut

No, it’s not. People die, every day, walking down the street, and in car crashes, and taking showers. If you just look at car crashes, are you seriously telling me that you think someone who doesn’t drive is at as great a risk of dying in a car crash as someone who does?

Equating obesity and cigarette smoking to walking down the street is obtuse and embarrassing.

142 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:11:51pm

re: #138 Targetpractice

Pineapple? PINEAPPLE?! On pizza?! Burn the heretics!

//

I’ll lay down suppressing fire, you get the flamethrower in position.

143 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:12:05pm

re: #139 Kragar

Well, you’re the devil. Obviously.

Do sales of pineapple+pizza correlate with the phase of the moon?
O_o

144 Shvaughn  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:12:34pm

re: #141 Dr. Matt

Equating obesity and cigarette smoking to walking down the street is obtuse and embarrassing.

Equating obesity and cigarette smoking is pretty clueless too.

145 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:13:00pm

re: #137 klys

Acceptable, unless you mix it with alcohol (causes higher BAC).

146 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:13:36pm

re: #136 Vicious Babushka

I’m not making an analogy. I’m saying that if you ride in a car— as a driver or a passenger— you have a risk that you wouldn’t if you didn’t, of dying in a car crash. There’s no safe level— you could just go for an hour out of the year and bad luck, that’s when you get creamed.

Obesity is a health risk. Saying that there’s ‘no safe level’ is a silly way of saying that. But that’s what it is— a risk.

If we actually want to parse our candidates in terms of how likely they are to die, we need a lot more info than just their weight.

147 klys  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:14:00pm

re: #145 lawhawk

Acceptable, unless you mix it with alcohol (causes higher BAC).

Although one could argue that you get more mileage out of your drink that way. Fewer drinks required for tipsy!

148 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:14:28pm

We should round up all the obese people, put them in Fat Camp and make them run around and around an exercise track all day long. We will feed them 1200 calories a day in allotments of 300 calories per meal.

GET BACK ON THAT TREADMILL!

Those who do not loose weight will be given less and less to eat while making them do more and more rigorous exercise.

PUMP THAT STATIONARY BIKE YOU FATSO!

FAILURES WILL BE PUNISHED.

149 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:14:29pm

re: #141 Dr. Matt

Equating obesity and cigarette smoking to walking down the street is obtuse and embarrassing.

I’m not equating them. I’m pointing out that ‘no safe level’ is a silly phrase. Obesity is a health risk. That’s the non-weird way to put it.

150 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:14:47pm

re: #145 lawhawk

Acceptable, unless you mix it with alcohol (causes higher BAC).

Interesting study. “Eight women and eight men” were the subjects.

151 makeitstop  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:15:00pm

re: #140 Vicious Babushka

Is this going to be another Ludwig fail?

[magic 8 ball] Signs point to ‘yes.’ [/magic 8 ball]

152 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:15:01pm

re: #12 rwdflynavy

Yeah, I wouldn’t want to talk about my party either.

153 klys  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:15:23pm

re: #146 Obdicut

I’m not making an analogy. I’m saying that if you ride in a car— as a driver or a passenger— you have a risk that you wouldn’t if you didn’t, of dying in a car crash. There’s no safe level— you could just go for an hour out of the year and bad luck, that’s when you get creamed.

Obesity is a health risk. Saying that there’s ‘no safe level’ is a silly way of saying that. But that’s what it is— a risk.

If we actually want to parse our candidates in terms of how likely they are to die, we need a lot more info than just their weight.

I would argue that if we’re going to base electing candidates on how likely they are to die, we should see fewer 65+ year olds running.

154 Shvaughn  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:15:29pm

re: #146 Obdicut

If we actually want to parse our candidates in terms of how likely they are to die, we need a lot more info than just their weight.

And it remains to be seen even if such an analysis is a good thing for the country or not.

A black candidate is a lot more likely to be assassinated by white supremacists than a white candidate. I don’t think anyone sane (and not racist) would hold that’s a good reason to avoid voting for a black candidate.

155 Dr. Matt  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:15:31pm

re: #140 Vicious Babushka

You can’t deal with obesity by NOT EATING.

Are you serious!? OMG, I almost feel sorry for you if you actually believe this. Please reread your statement….if you’re not ashamed of yourself I don’t know what will make you feel this way. If you believe the only way someone can deal with obesity is starvation then you seriously need to consider re-evaluating your attempts at debate. I’m serious.

156 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:16:10pm

Oh geez, is someone trying to go LVQ on obesity?
Sheesh.

157 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:16:57pm
FAILURES WILL BE PUNISHED

By making them watch Gwyneth Paltrow exercise and diet advice videos WHILE PUMPING THAT STATIONARY BIKE AND LIFTING DUMBELLS.

158 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:17:07pm

Here we go again, but with an even bigger “fuck you” thrown in:

North Dakota bill pushes drug tests for welfare recipients

Several Republican lawmakers are pushing the measure, which also would require applicants of Temporary Assistance for Needy Families and Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program to pay for the drug testing themselves before getting assistance.

So, to get around the fact that these scams are a huge waste of taxpayer dollars, they want to make the people who need welfare shell out the money to pay for a bullshit test before they can get the assistance they qualify for.

159 Robur  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:17:25pm

re: #55 Eventual Carrion

Eventual Carrion..Yes Damn It and the fact that I still have checks left in my book PROVES the theory that I Must still have money in the bank!! It’s fun to watch the mental gymnastics of these mental midgets

160 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:17:36pm

re: #155 Dr. Matt

Are you serious!? OMG, I almost feel sorry for you if you actually believe this. Please reread your statement….if you’re not ashamed of yourself I don’t know what will make you feel this way. If you believe the only way someone can deal with obesity is starvation then you seriously need to consider re-evaluating your attempts at debate. I’m serious.

I said the opposite of what you think I said.

161 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:17:46pm

Sudden outbreak of grumpiness.

162 Dr. Matt  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:18:31pm

re: #144 Shvaughn

Equating obesity and cigarette smoking is pretty clueless too.

Actually it’s not “clueless” at all. You attempting to interject in this is pretty clueless. They are the two largest risk factors for chronic disease in the US. True story. The number 1 and 2 killers in the US in heart disease and cancer. Obesity and cigarette smoking are risk factors for BOTH heart disease and numerous cancers. There is no safe level of obesity and there is no safe level for cigarette smoking. Please stop before you look even more foolish.

163 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:18:33pm

re: #155 Dr. Matt

Are you serious!? OMG, I almost feel sorry for you if you actually believe this. Please reread your statement….if you’re not ashamed of yourself I don’t know what will make you feel this way. If you believe the only way someone can deal with obesity is starvation then you seriously need to consider re-evaluating your attempts at debate. I’m serious.

The operative word in the original statement being “Can’t” as in can not.

Read it again.

164 Shvaughn  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:18:37pm

re: #155 Dr. Matt

Are you serious!? OMG, I almost feel sorry for you if you actually believe this. Please reread your statement….if you’re not ashamed of yourself I don’t know what will make you feel this way. If you believe the only way someone can deal with obesity is starvation then you seriously need to consider re-evaluating your attempts at debate. I’m serious.

She’s pointing out that while one can simply not smoke cigarettes, everyone has to eat food. Thus your attempt to equate smoking and obesity fails.

Please reread your statement….if you’re not ashamed of yourself I don’t know what will make you feel this way.

Quit trying to shame people.

165 calochortus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:19:00pm

re: #155 Dr. Matt

I believe the point is that most kinds of addict deal with it by avoiding the substance they are addicted to. That is not possible with food-you have to eat and therefore if you have trouble limiting your intake you have a fight every hour of every day.

166 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:19:02pm

re: #158 Kragar

Here we go again, but with an even bigger “fuck you” thrown in:

North Dakota bill pushes drug tests for welfare recipients

So, to get around the fact that these scams are a huge waste of taxpayer dollars, they want to make the people who need welfare shell out the money to pay for a bullshit test before they can get the assistance they qualify for.

Please proceed, GOP. I don’t think the US electorate is ready to vote for moral monsters in the numbers you will need to win.

167 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:19:45pm

FATSOS MUST SUFFER.
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168 Shvaughn  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:19:52pm

re: #162 Dr. Matt

Actually it’s not “clueless” at all. You attempting to interject in this is pretty clueless.

NO YOUR CLUELESS

//

169 Lidane  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:20:30pm

That awkward phone call when a client calls to offer a credit card number to pay for a project that hasn’t even started yet.

OTOH, at least I’m gaining business. That’s a plus.

170 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:20:39pm

re: #165 calochortus

I believe the point is that most kinds of addict deal with it by avoiding the substance they are addicted to. That is not possible with food-you have to eat and therefore if you have trouble limiting your intake you have a fight every hour of every day.

Bingo. Imagine how successful it would be to treat alcoholism if 1 oz or so of alcohol per day had to be consumed.

171 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:21:39pm

re: #155 Dr. Matt

Are you serious!? OMG, I almost feel sorry for you if you actually believe this. Please reread your statement….if you’re not ashamed of yourself I don’t know what will make you feel this way. If you believe the only way someone can deal with obesity is starvation then you seriously need to consider re-evaluating your attempts at debate. I’m serious.

You need to learn how to read or something.

172 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:22:07pm

re: #148 Vicious Babushka

Those who do not loose weight

lol

173 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:22:18pm

I’m currently on the broken leg diet. It really sucks.

174 Shvaughn  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:22:53pm

re: #173 Gus

I’m currently on the broken leg diet. It really sucks.

You eat broken legs?

175 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:23:54pm

re: #174 Shvaughn

You eat broken legs?

Easier to get the marrow out of them than unbroken ones.
/

176 Robur  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:24:11pm

re: #86 Kragar

Kragar..you guys made my day!…NI!!

177 calochortus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:24:17pm

It’s pretty easy to misunderstand what is meant in a brief post and then go off in different directions from there.
May I suggest everyone take a deep breath and consider what the possible interpretations of the “opposition” statements are?

178 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:24:35pm

Heh. See, it wasn’t teh infrastructure.

179 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:25:02pm

re: #175 Feline Fearless Leader

Easier to get the marrow out of them than unbroken ones.
/

Stop that.

180 calochortus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:25:10pm

re: #173 Gus

I’m currently on the broken leg diet. It really sucks.

When will you find out if you get to have the ankle fixed?

181 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:25:51pm

re: #177 calochortus

It’s pretty easy to misunderstand what is meant in a brief post and then go off in different directions from there.
May I suggest everyone take a deep breath and consider what the possible interpretations of the “opposition” statements are?

Deep breaths are fattening! There are no other interpretations!

182 jaunte  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:26:00pm

re: #177 calochortus

It’s pretty easy to misunderstand what is meant in a brief post and then go off in different directions from there.
May I suggest everyone take a deep breath and consider what the possible interpretations of the “opposition” statements are?

Someone is Rong on the internets!

183 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:26:02pm

re: #180 calochortus

When will you find out if you get to have the ankle fixed?

No word yet. I’m probably going to pass on that.

184 calochortus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:26:27pm

re: #181 wrenchwench

Deep breaths are fattening! There are no other interpretations!

Well, no wonder I gain weight so easily!

185 Mich-again  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:26:32pm

re: #44 erik_t

What the fuck does global warming tinhattery have to do with families, exactly?

Climate denial is much easier than admitting to young people that you don’t give a f* what kind of planet they inherit.

186 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:26:46pm

re: #161 Gus

Sudden outbreak of grumpiness.

McCain on tv again?
/

187 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:27:21pm

re: #184 calochortus

Well, no wonder I gain weight so easily!

Especially when exercising aerobically.

188 calochortus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:27:36pm

re: #183 Gus

No word yet. I’m probably going to pass on that.

May I say that that just sucks? I can think of no good reason why you shouldn’t have access to needed care. It makes me angry.

189 calochortus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:28:14pm

re: #187 wrenchwench

Especially when exercising aerobically.

I should sit quietly in my chair, perusing the internet?

190 erik_t  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:28:49pm

re: #177 calochortus

It’s pretty easy to misunderstand what is meant in a brief post and then go off in different directions from there.
May I suggest everyone take a deep breath and consider what the possible interpretations of the “opposition” statements are?

But we don’t yet to yell if we do that.

191 simoom  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:29:36pm

[Link: edition.cnn.com…]

Within 17 minutes, Panetta said, an unarmed, unmanned surveillance aircraft was dispatched to give U.S. officials a better idea of what was happening. It arrived at the site about 70 minutes after the attack, he said.

Soon, Panetta and Dempsey met with President Barack Obama, the secretary told lawmakers.

Obama ordered that the Defense Department respond to the attack with “all available DOD assets” and try to protect U.S. personnel, Panetta said.

What more does McCain & his groupies want?

Also Graham, I’m guessing intentionally, ignored/blurred what General Dempsey said, which was that it was two, distinct, twenty minute battles, at the consulate & then the annex, and not a continuous eight hour assault.

192 calochortus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:29:47pm

re: #190 erik_t

I know, it’s less fun.

193 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:29:49pm

re: #189 calochortus

I should sit quietly in my chair, perusing the internet?

And stay hydrated with 32 oz. sodas.

194 jaunte  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:30:05pm

Destiny’s children.

195 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:30:57pm

re: #190 erik_t

But we don’t yet to yell if we do that.

You deny grumpycat at one’s personal peril.
^_^

196 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:31:08pm

re: #188 calochortus

May I say that that just sucks? I can think of no good reason why you shouldn’t have access to needed care. It makes me angry.

I could get it if I get approved to some program which I haven’t done yet. Monday. Today is the first day the freaking thing wasn’t hurting like mad. We’ll see what happens later tonight. I’m sleeping on a couch (can get pretty cold in here) and there’s a bed in the basement. Post-op, neither would work. My “house-mate” can’t be my nurse since he’s an older guy with pretty serious diabetes. There’s just no way I could lay on my back on that couch for who knows how long.

197 erik_t  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:31:39pm

re: #194 jaunte

HB 291, the “Missouri Standard Science Act,” redefines a few things you thought you already knew about science. For example, a “hypothesis” is redefined as something that reflects a “minority of scientific opinion and is “philosophically unpopular.” A scientific theory is “an inferred explanation…whose components are data, logic and faith-based philosophy.” And “destiny” is not something that $5 fortune tellers believe in; Instead, it’s “the events and processes that define the future of the universe, galaxies, stars, our solar system, earth, plant life, animal life, and the human race.”

Jesus wept.

198 Lidane  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:31:54pm

This is one of the most depressing Flickr streams I’ve ever seen. Absolutely heartbreaking, especially since it’s real:

[Link: www.flickr.com…]

199 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:31:54pm

re: #194 jaunte

Destiny’s children.

Needs more Cthulhu.

200 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:32:11pm

So remember that you young single people. There’s a good reason for being married. :D

201 klys  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:32:54pm

re: #197 erik_t

Jesus wept.

He’s not the only one weeping. It’s either that or start spitting with rage at this idiocy.

202 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:33:48pm

re: #197 erik_t

Jesus wept.

I’m surprised they didn’t just decide to define pi as “3.1” while they were at it.

///

203 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:33:48pm

re: #197 erik_t

Jesus wept.

Bloody fucking hell.

I’m going to start attending Church just so I can start correcting the priest during the sermons.

If they want me to stop, they can get the fuck out of the schools.

204 Mich-again  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:33:50pm

re: #112 Dr. Matt

Like cigarette smoking, there is no safe level of obesity.

Sitting in a chair more than 6 hours a day is a health risk too.

Even if they exercised, women who sat six or more hours a day were 37 percent more likely to die over a 13-year period than people who sat less than three hours a day, the study said. And men who sat more than six hours a day had an 18 percent higher risk of death over a 13-year period than men who sat three or fewer hours a day.

The death risk was even higher for people who don’t work out. The least active women in the study who also reported the highest amount of sitting were 94 percent more likely to die than those who said they sat the least and exercised the most. For men, it was 48 percent, the study said.

205 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:34:17pm

re: #202 Feline Fearless Leader

I’m surprised they didn’t just decide to define pi as “3.1” while they were at it.

///

Decimals are a godless communist plot. Pi is 3.

206 calochortus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:34:57pm

re: #196 Gus

Really, you have to figure out a way to make it work-an injury like that can come back to bite you even if it heals relatively well in the short run. (I speak as someone with a knee replacement at 56 because of an old injury to that knee.)

207 jaunte  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:35:14pm

re: #202 Feline Fearless Leader

I think someone actually tried to get it redefined as an even 3.0 a while back.

208 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:35:28pm
209 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:35:31pm

re: #204 Mich-again

Sitting in a chair more than 6 hours a day is a health risk too.

I’m going for a walk.

bbl

210 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:36:08pm

re: #206 calochortus

Really, you have to figure out a way to make it work-an injury like that can come back to bite you even if it heals relatively well in the short run. (I speak as someone with a knee replacement at 56 because of an old injury to that knee.)

Thanks. Understood.

211 klys  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:36:34pm

re: #204 Mich-again

Sitting in a chair more than 6 hours a day is a health risk too.

I am starting to come to the conclusion that living is a health risk.

212 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:36:37pm

re: #204 Mich-again

Sitting in a chair more than 6 hours a day is a health risk too.

The longer you live, the more likely you are to die sooner.

How weird is that?
//

213 Sionainn  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:37:59pm

re: #204 Mich-again

Sitting in a chair more than 6 hours a day is a health risk too.

I’m fucked.

214 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:38:16pm

This is good.

215 SteveMcG  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:38:34pm

RE:203

It just occurred to me that the only people I hear going creationist are lay people. I have never heard a Catholic priest or nun go there, and most of the time you hear somebody push teh “teach teh controversy”, it’s a layperson.

216 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:39:00pm

re: #204 Mich-again

Sitting in a chair more than 6 hours a day is a health risk too.

Statistically, drinking water is a death sentence.

217 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:40:03pm

re: #215 SteveMcG

RE:203

It just occurred to me that the only people I hear going creationist are lay people. I have never heard a Catholic priest or nun go there, and most of the time you hear somebody push teh “teach teh controversy”, it’s a layperson.

“The truth of our faith becomes a matter of ridicule among the infidels if any Catholic, not gifted with the necessary scientific learning, presents as dogma what scientific scrutiny shows to be false.”
- Thomas Aquinas

218 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:40:08pm

re: #216 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

Statistically, drinking water is a death sentence.

I was amazed that they failed to completely ban the mixing of planed lumber and dihydrogen monoxide.

219 SteveMcG  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:40:27pm

Why are we taking anti-oxidants? I thought oxygen was good for you.

220 jaunte  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:40:55pm

Rust never sleeps.

221 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:41:00pm

re: #219 SteveMcG

Why are we taking anti-oxidants? I thought oxygen was good for you.

It’s like love.

222 klys  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:41:22pm

re: #218 Feline Fearless Leader

Do you mean dihydrogen monoxide? (Technicality, I know.)

223 erik_t  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:41:26pm

re: #215 SteveMcG

It just occurred to me that the only people I hear going creationist are lay people. I have never heard a Catholic priest or nun go there, and most of the time you hear somebody push teh “teach teh controversy”, it’s a layperson.

You know what Catholic priests and nuns have?

A solid education.

224 calochortus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:42:31pm

Time to eat some lunch and go for a walk. Later, all.

225 Mich-again  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:42:36pm

re: #213 Ghost of Sionainn

I’m fucked.

I use a stand up desk at work, all day. I worked a lot of years running the floor in factories and sitting down was never an option. Then I took an office job and the sitting at a chair just made me want to doze off. The stand up desk is much better. And I walk around the building every couple hours for a while.

226 SteveMcG  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:42:39pm

I went to catholic school for 12 years, and so has my wife and my daughter, and nobody has batted an eyelash about teaching the theory of evolution.

227 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:42:46pm

re: #222 klys

Do you mean dihydrogen monoxide? (Technicality, I know.)

Thank you. Corrected. :)

228 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:43:44pm

re: #226 SteveMcG

I went to catholic school for 12 years, and so has my wife and my daughter, and nobody has batted an eyelash about teaching the theory of evolution.

What do you expect from a bunch of Papists?
///

229 Sionainn  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:43:51pm

re: #225 Mich-again

I use a stand up desk at work, all day. I worked a lot of years running the floor in factories and sitting down was never an option. Then I took an office job and the sitting at a chair just made me want to doze off. The stand up desk is much better. And I walk around the building every couple hours for a while.

Not sure how I could work that with doing medical transcription and using a foot pedal.

230 Lidane  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:43:56pm

So it’s not enough that Marco Rubio giving the official GOP response to the State of the Union in both English AND Spanish, thereby annoying the English Only morans. Now, Sen. Aqua Buddha is getting into the mix:

Rand Paul To Deliver Tea party Response To SOTU

231 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:45:28pm

re: #230 Lidane

So it’s not enough that Marco Rubio giving the official GOP response to the State of the Union in both English AND Spanish, thereby annoying the English Only morans. Now, Sen. Aqua Buddha is getting into the mix:

Rand Paul To Deliver Tea party Response To SOTU

Rubio! Paul! 3.. 2.. 1.. FIGHT!

232 The Mountain That Blogs  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:45:41pm

re: #230 Lidane

Not quite a new thing—didn’t Bachmann do it last year? Or maybe it was the year before.

233 SteveMcG  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:46:21pm

re: 225 Mich-again

I hear you. I walked all over my factory for 25 years. The worst thing was when I had to start working on the office. It didn’t help that I averaged only 3 hours of sleep a night, but the second I sat down I would crash. I hated it.

234 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:47:23pm

I just saw the paintings made by George W. Bush and now I’m all weirded out.

235 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:48:11pm

Hmm. Radar seems to indicate NYC and eastern LI getting very heavy snow right now.

236 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:48:35pm

re: #234 Vicious Babushka

I just saw the paintings made by George W. Bush and now I’m all weirded out.

Did you know that Saddam Hussein wrote romance novels in his spare time?

237 HypnoToad  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:49:36pm

re: #205 Kragar

Decimals are a godless communist plot. Pi is 3.

Epicycles? Feh. Everything will work out if the planets will follow hexagonal orbits.

238 Mich-again  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:49:40pm

re: #230 Lidane

So it’s not enough that Marco Rubio giving the official GOP response to the State of the Union in both English AND Spanish, thereby annoying the English Only morans. Now, Sen. Aqua Buddha is getting into the mix:

Rand Paul To Deliver Tea party Response To SOTU

I dare you to drink every time Randy Paul says the word Liberal.

239 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:50:20pm

re: #235 Feline Fearless Leader

Hmm. Radar seems to indicate NYC and eastern LI getting very heavy snow right now.

Snowpocalypse is upon us! Icelord Winter wroths down on the avenues with white hordes of sleet-dogs!

Yeah, we’re getting some snow.

240 Lidane  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:50:50pm

re: #238 Mich-again

I dare you to drink every time Randy Paul says the word Liberal.

Y U hate mah liver? I’d like to avoid alcohol poisoning.

241 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:51:06pm

re: #239 Obdicut

Snowpocalypse is upon us! Icelord Winter wroths down on the avenues with white hordes of sleet-dogs!

Yeah, we’re getting some snow.

What units are the follow-on ice weasels coming in?

242 klys  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:52:04pm

re: #241 Feline Fearless Leader

What units are the follow-on ice weasels coming in?

Depends, are we using SI units or whatever we call the crap that the US continues to insist on using?

243 Mich-again  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:52:53pm

re: #229 Ghost of Sionainn

Not sure how I could work that with doing medical transcription and using a foot pedal.

What’s the foot pedal for? Distortion? Wah-Wah? Chorus? I have a old Tube Driver foot pedal for my guitar. Its so badass it plugs into a 120v outlet.

244 Mich-again  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:54:01pm

re: #234 Vicious Babushka

I just saw the paintings made by George W. Bush and now I’m all weirded out.

Calgon TAKE ME AWAY!

245 Sionainn  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:56:28pm

re: #243 Mich-again

What’s the foot pedal for? Distortion? Wah-Wah? Chorus? I have a old Tube Driver foot pedal for my guitar. Its so badass it plugs into a 120v outlet.

It starts and stops the dictation.

246 Mich-again  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 12:58:46pm

re: #239 Obdicut

Snowpocalypse is upon us! Icelord Winter wroths down on the avenues with white hordes of sleet-dogs!

And Tea Party legislators introduced a bill that requires schools to teach that scientists can’t actually prove that all snowflakes are unique. Teach the Controversy!

247 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:00:19pm

re: #230 Lidane

So it’s not enough that Marco Rubio giving the official GOP response to the State of the Union in both English AND Spanish, thereby annoying the English Only morans. Now, Sen. Aqua Buddha is getting into the mix:

Rand Paul To Deliver Tea party Response To SOTU

Don’t let anyone tell you an agnostic’s prayers aren’t answered.

248 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:03:58pm

re: #246 Mich-again

And Tea Party legislators introduced a bill that requires schools to teach that scientists can’t actually prove that all snowflakes are unique. Teach the Controversy!

All snowflakes aren’t unique!

[Link: www.scienceworld.ca…]

249 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:05:37pm

Wow, I just watched the video Dan Rather made for his Reddit “Ask Me Anything” session. He says:

“Any number of people, powerful people, for their own personal, ideological and partisan political reasons, didn’t like the fact that the story got out, and we were the first to put it on television … and they sought to discredit it.”

It’s nice that Dan Rather thinks I’m powerful, but my part in exposing those fraudulent documents was not about politics, it was about exposing a blatant, obvious fraud being perpetrated on the American public.

And he’s still clinging to the “fake but accurate” line too. The problem is that without specific evidence about specific offenses, the story that Bush received preferential treatment in the TANG was only borderline interesting.

I mean, a powerful person’s son gets preferential treatment?! Who’s ever heard of that happening?

What might have made Rather’s story an election-changer was the specific nature of the allegations, based on the Killian memos. And those were … faked.

250 Tigger2005  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:05:43pm

So what’s this claim now that a preacher at a prayer breakfast delivered some “epic smackdown” to Obama, who responded by looking all uppity and arrogant and disrespectful to a man’o’th’cloth?

251 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:05:59pm

Rather’s video:

[Link: www.waywire.com…]

252 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:06:37pm

re: #211 klys

I am starting to come to the conclusion that living is a health risk.

As that famed philosopher Porky Pine once noted, “Don’t take life so serious, son. It ain’t nohow permanent.”

253 Mich-again  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:06:46pm

re: #248 Obdicut

from the link..

There are more ways to grow a snowflake than there are atoms in the universe, so odds are good that no two dendrite flakes are alike.

Like anyone could know that.. /Kip Dynamite

254 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:09:25pm

re: #249 Charles Johnson

Wow, I just watched the video Dan Rather made for his Reddit “Ask Me Anything” session. He says:

It’s nice that Dan Rather thinks I’m powerful, but my part in exposing those fraudulent documents was not about politics, it was about exposing a blatant, obvious fraud being perpetrated on the American public.

And he’s still clinging to the “fake but accurate” line too. The problem is that without specific evidence about specific offenses, the story that Bush received preferential treatment in the TANG was only borderline interesting.

I mean, a powerful person’s son gets preferential treatment?! Who’s ever heard of that happening?

What might have made Rather’s story an election-changer was the specific nature of the allegations, based on the Killian memos. And those were … faked.

It’s very sad to see Dan Rather turn into Orly Taitz.

255 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:09:26pm

re: #249 Charles Johnson

Wait!
Your part in exposing it was for your “,,,own personal, ideological and partisan political reasons”??

I did not know that!!

256 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:11:49pm

re: #253 Mich-again

Dendrite flakes. But dendrite flakes aren’t the only flakes out there. Don’t hate on the other snow, man.

257 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:11:57pm

There are a lot of right wing bloggers and Twitter trolls who agree with Dan Rather that it was all about politics and ideology, because they seem to believe I’m ready to “apologize” to Dan Rather or retract my story, because I’m a recovering wingnut.

Nope. Facts is facts. I’ll never apologize for exposing that fake story.

258 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:12:19pm

re: #254 Vicious Babushka

It’s very sad to see Dan Rather turn into Orly Taitz.

He still needs to tell us what the frequency is!

259 Mich-again  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:12:23pm

Where have I heard that quote from Dan Rather before??

“And I would’ve gotten away with it if it hadn’t been for you meddling kids!”

I’m gonna go grab a snack and think about it..

260 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:12:23pm

re: #250 Tigger2005

So what’s this claim now that a preacher at a prayer breakfast delivered some “epic smackdown” to Obama, who responded by looking all uppity and arrogant and disrespectful to a man’o’th’cloth?

261 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:13:35pm

re: #250 Tigger2005

So what’s this claim now that a preacher at a prayer breakfast delivered some “epic smackdown” to Obama, who responded by looking all uppity and arrogant and disrespectful to a man’o’th’cloth?

Dr. Ben Carson is a physician, not a reverend.

262 Mich-again  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:14:44pm

re: #256 Obdicut

Dendrite flakes. But dendrite flakes aren’t the only flakes out there. Don’t hate on the other snow, man.

Dendrite flakes are the only legitimate snowflakes. All the rest should self-deport.

263 Lidane  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:17:09pm

re: #262 Mich-again

Dendrite flakes are the only legitimate snowflakes. All the rest should self-deport.

But if the rest of them are not legitimate snowflakes, how do we know they fell in the first place?

////

264 Tigger2005  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:19:30pm

re: #261 Vicious Babushka

Dr. Ben Carson is a physician, not a reverend.

Thanks. But can somebody give me the short form? What are conservatives doing the happy dance for?

265 Mattand  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:22:09pm

re: #249 Charles Johnson

And he’s still clinging to the “fake but accurate” line too.

Unreal that a journalist of his level is using the same non-logic that the wingnuts I know use to justify their bullshit. Sad, really.

266 Lidane  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:23:53pm
267 Mattand  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:24:17pm

re: #250 Tigger2005

So what’s this claim now that a preacher at a prayer breakfast delivered some “epic smackdown” to Obama, who responded by looking all uppity and arrogant and disrespectful to a man’o’th’cloth?

New one on me, but I’d be willing to bet that it’ll be a debunked rumor on Snopes shortly.

EDIT: Found a link, but it’s a Washington Times story that uses Twitchy.com as a source. Skepticism scan activated.

268 Mich-again  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:24:42pm

re: #257 Charles Johnson

There are a lot of right wing bloggers and Twitter trolls who agree with Dan Rather that it was all about politics and ideology, because they seem to believe I’m ready to “apologize” to Dan Rather or retract my story, because I’m a recovering wingnut.

Nope. Facts is facts. I’ll never apologize for exposing that fake story.

Anti-idiotarians are loyal to the truth..

269 Lidane  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:28:12pm
270 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:30:12pm

re: #261 Vicious Babushka

So what was the substance of this put down or whatever?

271 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:31:51pm

re: #257 Charles Johnson

There are a lot of right wing bloggers and Twitter trolls who agree with Dan Rather that it was all about politics and ideology, because they seem to believe I’m ready to “apologize” to Dan Rather or retract my story, because I’m a recovering wingnut.

Nope. Facts is facts. I’ll never apologize for exposing that fake story.

Bad craziness.

272 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:33:39pm

re: #267 Mattand

And whatever it is, I’m sure it’s good news for John McCain Mitt Romney.

273 Lidane  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:34:34pm

Cue the wingut outrage:

274 Sionainn  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:37:13pm

re: #270 Bulworth

So what was the substance of this put down or whatever?

Who knows. I’m halfway through the video and haven’t seen a smack down. I think they were crowing about Dr. Carson talking about how we are too PC so people are afraid to speak, and mentioned the Merry Christmas thing, how people shouldn’t be afraid to say Merry Christmas, that it’s simply a salutation. *shrug*

He’s also talking about education and how important it is…can’t imagine that RWNJs care about educating people.

275 efuseakay  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:37:24pm

re: #262 Mich-again

Dendrite flakes are the only legitimate snowflakes. All the rest should self-deport.

You’re an anti-dendriteite!

276 Interesting Times  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:38:08pm

Ha:

277 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:38:38pm

Also, too: Socialism and our virtual true american patriot president would be doing much better.


[Link: money.cnn.com…]

278 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:39:46pm

re: #274 Ghost of Sionainn

Thanks

Ah, PC and Merry Christmas. He’s hitting the persecuted Christianwingnut grievance buttons.

279 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:40:25pm

re: #273 Lidane

Cue the wingut outrage:

Whatever became of Dana Loesch, anyway?

280 Mattand  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:41:02pm

re: #274 Ghost of Sionainn

Who knows. I’m halfway through the video and haven’t seen a smack down. I think they were crowing about Dr. Carson talking about how we are too PC so people are afraid to speak, and mentioned the Merry Christmas thing, how people shouldn’t be afraid to say Merry Christmas, that it’s simply a salutation. *shrug*

He’s also talking about education and how important it is…can’t imagine that RWNJs care about educating people.

According to the Washington Times article, Carson starts bellyaching about the deficit and says we should use biblical tithing as a model for taxes.

Because nothing says “fiscal responsibility” like basing your tax system on a book that features infanticide and talking animals.

281 Gus  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:41:22pm

re: #279 wrenchwench

Whatever became of Dana Loesch, anyway?

She got lost inside Twitter never to be found again.

282 erik_t  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:41:48pm

re: #281 Gus

She got lost inside Twitter never to be found again.

The gulag has teeth.

/

283 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:42:17pm

It suddenly occurs to me how mistaken I’ve been as to my life’s work. I would have been much better off going on the wingnut circuit spouting the laundry list of gripes and outrages, then writing a chicken scratch book full of these rambling diatribes.

//

284 Sionainn  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:43:22pm

re: #280 Mattand

According to the Washington Times article, Carson starts bellyaching about the deficit and says we should use biblical tithing as a model for taxes.

Because nothing says “fiscal responsibility” like basing your tax system on a book that features infanticide and talking animals.

Yeah, I’m on that part right now. Not sure how this constitutes a “smackdown.” He’s throwing out some ideas of his own. I guess in wingnut minds, anyone who doesn’t agree with the way things are currently being done equals “SMACKDOWN - YEAH!11!”

285 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:44:12pm

re: #280 Mattand

Ah, yes a 10% flat, across the board tax rate would balance the budget right quick.

//

286 Mattand  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:45:01pm

re: #284 Ghost of Sionainn

Yeah, I’m on that part right now. Not sure how this constitutes a “smackdown.” He’s throwing out some ideas of his own. I guess in wingnut minds, anyone who doesn’t agree with the way things are currently being done equals “SMACKDOWN - YEAH!11!”

Keep in mind that the group reporting this as a smackdown is Twitchy.com.

287 Mattand  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:45:38pm

re: #285 Bulworth

Ah, yes a 10% flat, across the board tax rate would balance the budget right quick.

//

LOL, I caught that also: using the Bible as solid proof that a flat tax would work.

288 darthstar  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:45:47pm

Lindsey Graham can kiss my pasty white Irish ass (even more so now that I’ve been swimming regularly and have my tan line back).

289 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:47:33pm

re: #287 Mattand

And since the good doctor is a brain surgeon, I’m guessing this “Biblical flat tax” idea is not completely against his own personal financial interests.

290 Sionainn  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:48:40pm

re: #285 Bulworth

Ah, yes a 10% flat, across the board tax rate would balance the budget right quick.

//

Dr. Carson did say it didn’t need to be 10%.
/

291 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:48:44pm

re: #287 Mattand

A flat tax done the Bible way would not only reduce the deficit and balance the budget, but would lower interest rates to near zero. Oh wait…

/

292 Mich-again  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:49:12pm

Another Twitter Haiku, a complete thought in an actual sentence with punctuation in exactly 140 characters..

293 Mich-again  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:50:17pm

re: #291 Bulworth

A flat tax done the Bible way would not only reduce the deficit and balance the budget, but would lower interest rates to near zero. Oh wait…

/

They would have to beat their swords into plowshares.

294 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:50:26pm

Of course the only group more persecuted in Amercia than Bible believing true pure Christians is the super wealthy and prosperous “job creators”.

/

295 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:52:27pm

re: #270 Bulworth

So what was the substance of this put down or whatever?

tl;dw

296 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:52:43pm

re: #280 Mattand

Reminds me of the horror of the Clinton years. Balanced budget. Higher taxes. How’d we ever survive that decade?

/

297 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:53:13pm

re: #234 Vicious Babushka

I just saw the paintings made by George W. Bush and now I’m all weirded out.

/also weirded out

298 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:54:10pm

re: #296 Bulworth

Reminds me of the horror of the Clinton years. Balanced budget. Higher taxes. How’d we ever survive that decade?

/

Never gets old: [Link: www.theonion.com…]

Our Long National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity Is Finally Over

299 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:54:29pm

re: #292 Mich-again

Another Twitter Haiku, a complete thought in an actual sentence with punctuation in exactly 140 characters..

Gave me deja vu for some reason.

300 Lidane  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:54:35pm

Derp!

301 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:54:45pm

re: #293 Mich-again

They would have to beat their swords into plowshares.

THOSE DAT HAMMER THEYR GUNZ INTO CHEEZBURGER FLIPPERS, WILL MAKE CHEEZBURGER FOR THOSE THAT DO NOT.

302 Interesting Times  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:56:12pm

re: #300 Lidane

303 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:56:52pm

Fischer: Obama Is an Antichrist

Earlier today, we posted a clip of Bryan Fischer attacking President Obama for supposedly being “filled with arrogance” pride and hubris for believing that he knows better than God when it comes to issues like reproductive choice and marriage equality.

On his program today, Fischer returned to the issue, this time declaring that Obama is an antichrist:

304 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:58:28pm

re: #300 Lidane

That’s what radical shariah law muslims do; kill other radical shariah law muslims with drones. Wait, what?

/

305 Sionainn  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:58:38pm

re: #303 Kragar

Fischer: Obama Is an Antichrist

I googled it. It’s true!

306 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:58:43pm

re: #298 EPR-radar

Never gets old: [Link: www.theonion.com…]

Our Long National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity Is Finally Over

From the link, which is dated Jan 17, 2001 .


Bush concluded his speech on a note of healing and redemption.

“We as a people must stand united, banding together to tear this nation in two,” Bush said. “Much work lies ahead of us: The gap between the rich and the poor may be wide, be there’s much more widening left to do. We must squander our nation’s hard-won budget surplus on tax breaks for the wealthiest 15 percent. And, on the foreign front, we must find an enemy and defeat it.”

Move over pundits, you can all be replaced by staff writers for The Onion.

307 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:59:20pm

Buster Wilson Wonders if Obama Is Preparing the Military to ‘Fire on American Citizens’

Wilson claimed to have heard three anecdotal reports that the military under Obama is requiring personnel to affirm their willingness to “fire on American citizens,” including people resisting what Wilson believes is a looming gun ban.

Wilson also repeated his claim, which has been discredited time and time again, that Obama issued an executive order preparing the government to enforce martial law.

But since Wilson doesn’t have the courage to take complete ownership of his anti-government paranoia, he once again qualified his conspiracy theory with the weak cop-out that he’s “just asking the question.”

Maybe the “person” who told Wilson about the new military plan was the same one who sent him the hoax “Obama’s foreign student ID” photo.

Is it true Buster got his name from his days fornicating with livestock? I’m just asking questions.

308 Mattand  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:59:31pm

re: #234 Vicious Babushka

re: #297 wrenchwench

I’m kinda torn. I actually have to give him credit for choosing scenes that are out-of-the ordinary.

Then again, they also feature him in the bathroom. Presumably nude.

Yes, world, this is the guy who launched the 2nd Iraq war.

309 Lidane  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 1:59:55pm

Except for the the fact that we’re not going to become Greece anytime soon, but whatevs:

310 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 2:00:32pm

re: #304 Bulworth

That’s what radical shariah law muslims do; kill other radical shariah law muslims with drones. Wait, what?

/

That was all a cover so when he started drone stirkes in Arkansas, he could say there was a precedent. Muslims are tricky like that.
///

311 Mich-again  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 2:04:02pm

re: #303 Kragar

Fischer: Obama Is an Antichrist

When comparing your enemy to Hitler just doesn’t go far enough.

312 klys  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 2:04:51pm

re: #311 Mich-again

When comparing your enemy to Hitler just doesn’t go far enough.

That was so last week.

313 Lidane  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 2:17:59pm

Crazed wingnut gibberish ahoy!

For the record, Our Lady of the Lake University is a small, private, Catholic university in San Antonio. They revised their non-discrimation policy to include LGBT students, faculty, and staff.

Apparently, that’s enough to turn them into a “Gays Only” university, whatever the fuck that means.

314 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 2:21:28pm

re: #313 Lidane

Crazed wingnut gibberish ahoy!

For the record, Our Lady of the Lake University is a small, private, Catholic university in San Antonio. They revised their non-discrimation policy to include LGBT students, faculty, and staff.

Apparently, that’s enough to turn them into a “Gays Only” university, whatever the fuck that means.

Veronica Coffin is on the Certified TGDN Racists list. (Linking to topconservativenews more than once is one way to get on that list)

315 Lidane  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 2:32:13pm

re: #314 Vicious Babushka

Veronica Coffin is on the Certified TGDN Racists list.

My surprise, let me show you it.

Also, she seems to like spamming her followers. Too bad she’s got nothing worthwhile to say.

316 simoom  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 2:34:04pm

It’ll be years before they and the base let this one go, won’t it? And all because Romney decided to go all in on politicizing it within hours of the attack, dragging the party into the muck along with him.

Romney flashback:

“I’m outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi. It’s disgraceful that the Obama Administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.”

317 Lidane  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 2:35:22pm
318 Shvaughn  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 3:13:23pm

re: #308 Mattand

re: #297 wrenchwench

I’m kinda torn. I actually have to give him credit for choosing scenes that are out-of-the ordinary.

Then again, they also feature him in the bathroom. Presumably nude.

Yes, world, this is the guy who launched the 2nd Iraq war.

You know who else was a painter?

//

319 steve_davis  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 3:32:01pm

re: #111 Obdicut

I am defending him. However, I don’t think that calling up the doctor and yelling at her is going to accomplish anything or is a good way to behave, either.

The doctor was wrong, and accepting what she did is really dangerous— it basically says that anyone whose got an illness or is dealing with a medical issue isn’t suitable for high office. I don’t agree with that. Teddy Roosevelt, for example, was overweight, asthmatic, and quite possibly manic-depressive, but who gives a shit, he was awesome.

congress once refused to fully fund the navy, so he sailed the fleet halfway around the world until they ran out of fuel. And congress ponied up the money to get them home.

320 chadu  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 5:28:29pm

re: #111 Obdicut

Teddy Roosevelt, for example, was overweight, asthmatic, and quite possibly manic-depressive, but who gives a shit, he was awesome.

QFT.

Killed a cougar with a knife!

321 JABaker  Sat, Feb 9, 2013 8:06:26pm

re: #45 BongCrodny

And just what do you think the samples showed the Moon is made of?


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