The Walking Grammy Dead Open Thread
Here’s a Sunday evening open thread for the Grammy Awards (which I usually don’t watch) and the continuation of the third season of The Walking Dead (which I will definitely watch).
Here’s a Sunday evening open thread for the Grammy Awards (which I usually don’t watch) and the continuation of the third season of The Walking Dead (which I will definitely watch).
2 | Feline Fearless Leader Sun, Feb 10, 2013 5:49:57pm |
I’m watching old Bond movies. “Thunderball” currently on. Not a Grammy’s fan, and I have not been following The Walking Dead.
3 | klys Sun, Feb 10, 2013 5:51:11pm |
The current paper is an oldie, titled “Borosilicate Glasses” by Tosio Abe in 1952.
4 | Targetpractice Sun, Feb 10, 2013 5:51:30pm |
Zombies at the Grammies…would that be such a bad thing?
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5 | Lidane Sun, Feb 10, 2013 5:51:45pm |
Is this the thread where I can up my hipster cred and claim I was a Norman Reedus fan years before he was Daryl Dixon? Boondock Saints FTW, yo. Heh.
Also, I have seasoned chicken in the oven and the veggies simmering on the stove. Dinner + zombies? You betcha.
6 | darthstar Sun, Feb 10, 2013 5:52:34pm |
Didn’t some asshole shoot his girlfriend for saying the Walking Dead wasn’t realistic?
7 | darthstar Sun, Feb 10, 2013 5:53:20pm |
re: #2 Feline Fearless Leader
I’m watching old Bond movies. “Thunderball” currently on. Not a Grammy’s fan, and I have not been following The Walking Dead.
Thunderball? Love that movie…what channel?
8 | Interesting Times Sun, Feb 10, 2013 5:53:58pm |
9 | Vicious Babushka Sun, Feb 10, 2013 5:54:05pm |
I went to Nordstrom today, bought myself a new fragrance and told Zedushka “This is your Valentine’s Day present to me.”
10 | Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 10, 2013 5:54:26pm |
Just had a weird problem with the Internet tubes, they got all spastic on me.
Looks like a router went bad in the Time Warner/Road Runner network, and I couldn’t get into LGF or several other sites for about 90 minutes. Traceroute stopped at an rr.com host.
Fixed now, obviously, or I wouldn’t be posting this comment.
11 | Vicious Babushka Sun, Feb 10, 2013 5:55:05pm |
12 | klys Sun, Feb 10, 2013 5:55:08pm |
Things old papers make me appreciate: a section where the experimental protocol is clearly laid out.
Things old papers make me miss: when you could get away with not citing 40+ papers per paper.
13 | Vicious Babushka Sun, Feb 10, 2013 5:55:57pm |
re: #10 Charles Johnson
Just had a weird problem with the Internet tubes, they got all spastic on me.
Looks like a router went bad in the Time Warner/Road Runner network, and I couldn’t get into LGF or several other sites for about 90 minutes. Traceroute stopped at an rr.com host.
Fixed now, obviously, or I wouldn’t be posting this comment.
ITZ A CONSPIRiCY!1!
14 | darthstar Sun, Feb 10, 2013 5:56:17pm |
re: #10 Charles Johnson
rr.com…maybe it was just a passing train.
16 | wrenchwench Sun, Feb 10, 2013 5:58:04pm |
re: #10 Charles Johnson
Just had a weird problem with the Internet tubes, they got all spastic on me.
Looks like a router went bad in the Time Warner/Road Runner network, and I couldn’t get into LGF or several other sites for about 90 minutes. Traceroute stopped at an rr.com host.
Fixed now, obviously, or I wouldn’t be posting this comment.
Oooh, scary. I just coached the home crew through, ‘turn the modem off, wait a minute, then turn the modem back on.’ Fortunately it worked, because I’d exhausted my technical know-how.
17 | darthstar Sun, Feb 10, 2013 5:58:15pm |
re: #14 darthstar
rr.com…maybe it was just a passing train.
Never mind…that’s roadrunner networks…I see your problem now.
18 | FemNaziBitch Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:00:50pm |
I’m leaving for awhile.
Have a great evening all!
20 | Feline Fearless Leader Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:01:16pm |
21 | engineer cat Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:09:08pm |
contemplating possible new nyms:
‘beat raven’
‘aether mermaid’
prizes for decoding the first one. the 2nd is too obvious…
22 | Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:09:15pm |
Wow, great opening scene.
OK, I’ll try not to post spoilers.
23 | Kronocide Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:10:23pm |
I am irrevocably hooked on this show. Not like me. My wife likes it too so we we finally have some TV compatibility.
Oh, and here’s some Whiny Conservatism.
24 | b_sharp Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:11:11pm |
We are stalled at watching the final show of the second season. My wife is upset/annoyed at Dale’s death so she doesn’t want to watch any more, even though we’ve PVRed the entire 3rd season up til now.
25 | Kronocide Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:11:39pm |
I always knew the Merle/Darryl saga would come back to spice things up. Both actors are really good in their roles.
26 | wrenchwench Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:11:58pm |
re: #21 engineer cat
contemplating possible new nyms:
‘beat raven’
‘aether mermaid’
prizes for decoding the first one. the 2nd is too obvious…
B Traven, the author?
27 | Kronocide Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:12:42pm |
re: #24 b_sharp
We are stalled at watching the final show of the second season. My wife is upset/annoyed at Dale’s death so she doesn’t want to watch any more, even though we’ve PVRed the entire 3rd season up til now.
I dropped a spoiler but removed it, sorry.
28 | b_sharp Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:13:56pm |
re: #27 Kronocide
I dropped a spoiler but removed it, sorry.
I already knew about Lori and the baby. The wife doesn’t.
29 | efuseakay Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:14:24pm |
re: #17 darthstar
Never mind…that’s roadrunner networks…I see your problem now.
30 | Kronocide Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:19:43pm |
re: #28 b_sharp
I already knew about Laurie and the baby. The wife doesn’t.
Losing Dale was pretty epic. Laurie will make her bawl.
31 | Vicious Babushka Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:20:21pm |
I watched a couple episodes of Walking Dead, just couldn’t get into it.
I liked “Zombie Land” and “Shaun of the Dead”
32 | Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:23:57pm |
What I like about The Walking Dead: it’s following the graphic novels. With some differences but nothing that derails the overall story.
33 | b_sharp Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:24:23pm |
re: #30 Kronocide
Losing Dale was pretty epic. Laurie will make her bawl.
Yup. That’s kind of why I haven’t pushed it. I may just hook it up when she doesn’t have some other show to watch and go with it. She’ll kill me later, but hey, she isn’t a zombie.
36 | engineer cat Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:27:31pm |
re: #26 wrenchwench
B Traven, the author?
you win!
i have deposited 7 zagillion quatloos in your name in the intergalactic bank of ferengi
38 | wrenchwench Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:31:53pm |
re: #36 engineer cat
you win!
i have deposited 7 zagillion quatloos in your name in the intergalactic bank of ferengi
Do they require photo ID?
39 | Feline Fearless Leader Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:32:05pm |
40 | Kragar (Antichrist ) Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:35:20pm |
LA Archdiocese used cemetery funds to pay for abuse settlements
In order to help pay for a $660 million settlement for the victims of molestation by Catholic priests, the Archdiocese of Los Angeles moved $115 million from the fund for cemetery maintenance, reported the Los Angeles Times.
The money in the cemetery fund comes from the families of those buried by the church or kept in church mausoleums — families who “have contributed to a dedicated account for the perpetual care of graves, crypts and grounds since the 1890s,” reported the LAT.
Those families were not notified that 88 percent of the fund was being used for the settlements, and the church did not mention the funding source in public statements.
42 | Vicious Babushka Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:36:47pm |
re: #40 Kragar
LA Archdiocese used cemetery funds to pay for abuse settlements
Dead people can’t complain.//
43 | engineer cat Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:37:34pm |
re: #38 wrenchwench
Do they require photo ID?
and the signatures of 12 of your personal slaves or 6 interplanetary merchants you have swindled
44 | klys Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:39:32pm |
Is it wrong to judge trolls on their inability to use punctuation, spelling, spacing, and the enter key properly?
45 | erik_t Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:40:25pm |
re: #44 klys
Is it wrong to judge trolls on their inability to use punctuation, spelling, spacing, and the enter key properly?
If we mix up our there/their/they’re and use quotation marks as emphasis marks, we might as well be the lesser apes.
46 | klys Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:41:35pm |
re: #45 erik_t
If we mix up our there/their/they’re and use quotation marks as emphasis marks, we might as well be the lesser apes.
Guess I’m going to hell then.
47 | b_sharp Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:43:15pm |
re: #45 erik_t
If we mix up our there/their/they’re and use quotation marks as emphasis marks, we might as well be the lesser apes.
Ook Ook
48 | Mich-again Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:45:00pm |
re: #44 klys
Is it wrong to judge trolls on their inability to use punctuation, spelling, spacing, and the enter key properly?
Punctuation is important..
“Let’s eat Grandma.”
“Let’s eat, Grandma.”
49 | klys Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:49:32pm |
re: #48 Mich-again
IMO, improper punctuation use (etc.) is like the bad handwriting of the Internet world. It may or may not change your message or my opinion of it, but it’ll be a hell of a lot harder for me to figure out what you’re saying and I may stop bothering to try.
50 | Vicious Babushka Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:50:35pm |
51 | erik_t Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:52:14pm |
re: #49 klys
IMO, improper punctuation use (etc.) is like the bad handwriting of the Internet world. It may or may not change your message or my opinion of it, but it’ll be a hell of a lot harder for me to figure out what you’re saying and I may stop bothering to try.
Conservatives: UR IN ‘MURRICA, SPEAK ENGLISH
Liberals: I DON’T CARE WHAT LANGUAGE YOU SPEAK OR TYPE, BUT FOR GOD’S SAKES PLEASE DO IT PROPERLY
52 | garzooma Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:54:53pm |
Speaking of the Grammies, Kim Kashkashian won the Grammy Award for Best Classical Instrumental Solo
53 | klys Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:56:49pm |
re: #52 garzooma
Speaking of the Grammies, Kim Kashkashian won the Grammy Award for Best Classical Instrumental Solo
That is a fantastic doubletake. Well done.
54 | Vicious Babushka Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:56:56pm |
re: #52 garzooma
Speaking of the Grammies, Kim Kashkashian won the Grammy Award for Best Classical Instrumental Solo
OK, how many of you thought this was about KIM KARDASHIAN and thought WTF!
55 | Feline Fearless Leader Sun, Feb 10, 2013 7:04:41pm |
re: #54 Vicious Babushka
OK, how many of you thought this was about KIM KARDASHIAN and thought WTF!
Or the Onion was getting a bit rude.
56 | BongCrodny Sun, Feb 10, 2013 7:12:27pm |
re: #39 Feline Fearless Leader
No, they got him a chalkboard.
One Glenn kills zombies, the other makes ‘em.
57 | ReamWorks SKG Sun, Feb 10, 2013 7:13:53pm |
I’d watch the Grammys if there were any decent music being produced today. But sadly, nobody wants to pay for music, so nobody’s making any.
58 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Feb 10, 2013 7:14:09pm |
re: #57 ReamWorks SKG
I’d watch the Grammys if there were any decent music being produced today. But sadly, nobody wants to pay for music, so nobody’s making any.
Tom Waits is.
59 | ReamWorks SKG Sun, Feb 10, 2013 7:16:15pm |
Oh! Paul Barton posted a great tutorial on Chopin Opus 10/1 “Waterfall”
I learned a different technique but I like this method, a la Cortot, too.
60 | Mich-again Sun, Feb 10, 2013 7:19:18pm |
re: #57 ReamWorks SKG
I’d watch the Grammys if there were any decent music being produced today. But sadly, nobody wants to pay for music, so nobody’s making any.
I disagree, there is a ton of great music coming out these days. You need to turn on the radio and scan once in a while..
61 | ReamWorks SKG Sun, Feb 10, 2013 7:19:59pm |
re: #60 Mich-again
Sorry! Sometimes my sarcasm isn’t apparent! I’m all about music.
62 | William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Feb 10, 2013 7:20:31pm |
re: #57 ReamWorks SKG
I’d watch the Grammys if there were any decent music being produced today. But sadly, nobody wants to pay for music, so nobody’s making any.
There’s lots of great music being made. It’s just not coming out of the labels/Grammy machine anymore. Go to the clubs, see the indies & buy the disks there and their files online without giving the middle-thieves a share. That’s the model music is moving to and radio & the Grammys got left behind with the rest of the 20th century.
63 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Feb 10, 2013 7:22:02pm |
I think we need another 25 posts telling Reuven to go see some indie bands.
Reuven, have you checked out the shotegazing scene? It’s very very.
64 | Mich-again Sun, Feb 10, 2013 7:22:22pm |
re: #61 ReamWorks SKG
Sorry! Sometimes my sarcasm isn’t apparent! I’m all about music.
Ha. Well that sort of opinions is on FB all the time so it didn’t surprise me to see it.
65 | ninja cat Sun, Feb 10, 2013 7:23:41pm |
Well if you’re not watching the Grammy’s you missed the Bob Marley tribute. Damn, I’m watching them and I missed it. Bruno Mars came out to sing one his own songs, Sting came out to sing a Police song, then they permitted Ziggy & Damien to come out for like 2 minutes to sing an actual Marley song. WTH was the point?
68 | Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 10, 2013 7:40:14pm |
re: #58 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
69 | Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 10, 2013 7:43:06pm |
re: #67 Single-handed sailor
KILLER nic pic!
70 | Lidane Sun, Feb 10, 2013 7:43:12pm |
Oh, Walking Dead. How I’ve missed you.
Glenn is a badass. Also, Rick needs sleep, meds, and some alone time to get his shit together, in that order. And I’d ask a question about something I thought I saw in this episode, but it might be spoilery.
71 | Single-handed sailor Sun, Feb 10, 2013 7:51:23pm |
re: #69 Dancing along the light of day
KILLER nic pic!
Thank you, although I can’t take any credit. I stole it :(
72 | bratwurst Sun, Feb 10, 2013 7:56:12pm |
re: #70 Lidane
Lidane, your Twitter appears to have been hacked! Just got a direct message from you with a link to a phishing site.
73 | Gus Sun, Feb 10, 2013 7:56:31pm |
Nancy Pelosi Goes On Fox News and Obliterates The Video Games Cause Gun Violence Meme politicususa.com/nancy-pelosi-f… via @politicususa— Cain S. LaTrans (@snkscoyote) February 11, 2013
76 | Kragar (Antichrist ) Sun, Feb 10, 2013 8:17:23pm |
Getting pissed with Skyrim. Out of the blue, one of the quest NPCs stopped working. Tried reloading, restarting, console commands to reenable, even tried forcing the story to complete and it won’t work.
77 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Sun, Feb 10, 2013 8:24:57pm |
re: #48 Mich-again
Punctuation is important..
“Let’s eat Grandma.”
“Let’s eat, Grandma.”
“Private? No! Swimming allowed!”
78 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Feb 10, 2013 8:30:23pm |
re: #72 bratwurst
Lidane, your Twitter appears to have been hacked! Just got a direct message from you with a link to a phishing site.
Me too.
79 | goddamnedfrank Sun, Feb 10, 2013 8:30:31pm |
re: #73 Gus
The experts who’ve studied the issue for much of their lives tend to come to a different conclusion. It’s a fact that past generations of soldiers were much less willing to pull the trigger on the battlefield with another human being in their sights. The idea that video games, first person shooters especially, either simply can’t or don’t act as operant conditioning is kind of ridiculous.
In 1992, the national body of the American Psychological Association said, “The scientific debate is over.” In 1999, the American Psychological Association said, to argue [that media violence does not cause real violence], is like arguing against gravity. So, for the man to stand up, in front of this—the New Jersey Psychological Association—and claim it, is like standing up at B’nai B’rith and claiming that you can’t prove that the Holocaust happened, and it never happened.
Lt. Col. David Grossman
The next point he makes is hard to dismiss, except it seems by those with a vested political or commercial interest in maintaining denial.
“This concept of these things being fantasy is interesting,” Grossman said, “because the Holy Grail of this industry is realism, seeking ever greater levels of realism. And, when the child spends more waking hours playing the game than he does anything else, what becomes fantasy and what becomes reality?
“People tell me, ‘you can’t tell me that a 6-year-old in Flint, Mich., couldn’t tell the difference between fantasy and reality.’” Grossman said, recalling the Feb. 29 shooting in which a 6-year-old boy shot and killed a classmate. “And I say, ‘Well, you know, how many adults do you know who think professional wrestling is real?”
Anyway, the Supreme Court has determined that video games are protected speech, even though the founders who wrote the constitution couldn’t have possibly conceived of them at the time the it was written. This pretty much destroys the argument that semi automatic rifles can’t be protected because the contemporary state of the art arms were muzzle loaders. Either the Constitution is a living document or it isn’t.
80 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Feb 10, 2013 8:30:48pm |
re: #76 Kragar
Getting pissed with Skyrim. Out of the blue, one of the quest NPCs stopped working. Tried reloading, restarting, console commands to reenable, even tried forcing the story to complete and it won’t work.
She’s just not into you, man.
81 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Feb 10, 2013 8:41:44pm |
re: #79 goddamnedfrank
That’s a terrible analogy, Frank. The Founders were well aware of the power of propaganda, which is every bit as powerful as some putative effect which Grossman has not done any actual clinical research to support.
If you come with some peer-reviewed papers demonstrating this supposed desensitization effect, I’ll be happy to change my position. And not bullshit papers like this:
[Link: psychcentral.com…]
Where they equate having a relatively lower heart rate and galvanic skin response on seeing real violence after having just played a violent video game with being ‘desensitized’ to it.
Here is a report on a metareview of the literature— most of the ‘research’ done on it has been supremely shitty.
[Link: www.gamepolitics.com…]
82 | Kronocide Sun, Feb 10, 2013 8:41:56pm |
Lidane, a spambot or something took over your twitter account
83 | Interesting Times Sun, Feb 10, 2013 8:42:38pm |
re: #79 goddamnedfrank
It’s possible that excess playing of extremely realistic games could have a desensitizing effect in some cases, but to make the leap that they cause gun violence? If that’s the case, how on Earth does one explain this?
Image: Video-games-and-gun-violence-Washington-Post-1.jpg
Note the position of the United States vs. just about every other country on the chart. Moral of the story? A shitload of other factors contribute far more to gun violence.
84 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Feb 10, 2013 8:42:53pm |
re: #82 Kronocide
Lidane, a spambot or something took over your twitter account
And Lidane, if you use that password for anything else, change all of them. Probably just change all your passwords, fuck it.
85 | Interesting Times Sun, Feb 10, 2013 8:47:24pm |
Speaking of Pelosi (the younger, in this case):
@jeffersonobama some of your trolls came to visit my TL. Apparently even Batman can’t stop teh crazy. #Benghazi twitter.com/sfpelosi/statu…— sfpelosi (@sfpelosi) February 11, 2013
89 | Lidane Sun, Feb 10, 2013 8:51:55pm |
re: #82 Kronocide
Lidane, a spambot or something took over your twitter account
Yeah. I changed the password and revoked all the apps that had access except for a couple that I trust.
Now I have to go change all my other passwords. Dammit.
90 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Feb 10, 2013 8:55:33pm |
re: #89 Lidane
It’s like penance, or a decontamination shower.
92 | Gus Sun, Feb 10, 2013 8:58:50pm |
Clicked on it for shits and giggles. I trust Kaspersky. Otherwise, hackers are idiots.
93 | Dancing along the light of day Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:00:43pm |
re: #88 Kronocide
Any news on Sergey?
? Is there a problem? I missed this! I hope all is well for him!
94 | Gus Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:09:16pm |
Bread & Milk: youtu.be/i6zaVYWLTkU via @youtube— Gus (@Gus_802) February 11, 2013
95 | CuriousLurker Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:13:41pm |
re: #92 Gus
Clicked on it for shits and giggles. I trust Kaspersky. Otherwise, hackers are idiots.
Are you out of you mind?? Don’t EVER trust any antivirus 100%.
That link redirects to a server in China that appears to screw with people’s session token in a way that probably makes it look like you logged out and then sends you to a phishing site with a fake Twitter login screen. Once there people will undoubtedly have their passwords stolen and get infected with some kind of nasty malware.
Check out what the link I got looks like when decoded via longurl.org.
Here’s the whois info on the domain.
96 | Lidane Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:16:01pm |
re: #90 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
It’s like penance, or a decontamination shower.
Keeps you on your toes, if nothing else.
I’ve done my part to warn people, telling my FB list that if they got a message from me not to click the link because it’s a scam and I got hacked. And I definitely tweeted about the hack, too. And all my major social passwords, my bank, and PayPal are all changed. Now I have to do the rest of them.
Blah.
97 | TedStriker Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:16:47pm |
re: #95 CuriousLurker
Are you out of you mind?? Don’t EVER trust any antivirus 100%.
That link redirects to a server in China that appears to screw with people’s session token in a way that probably makes it look like you logged out and then sends you to a phishing site with a fake Twitter login screen. Once there people will undoubtedly have their passwords stolen and get infected with some kind of nasty malware.
Check out what the link I got looks like when decoded via longurl.org.
Here’s the whois info on the domain.
Only way that I would knowingly click a link like that is in a VM.
98 | erik_t Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:18:05pm |
re: #97 TedStriker
Only way that I would knowingly click a link like that is in a VM.
Things that shit in VM sandboxes: dubious links and cats.
99 | Gus Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:21:03pm |
نهاية التسرع ( انصحك لاتعيش الجو ) THE MIST
re: #95 CuriousLurker
Are you out of you mind?? Don’t EVER trust any antivirus 100%.
That link redirects to a server in China that appears to screw with people’s session token in a way that probably makes it look like you logged out and then sends you to a phishing site with a fake Twitter login screen. Once there people will undoubtedly have their passwords stolen and get infected with some kind of nasty malware.
Check out what the link I got looks like when decoded via longurl.org.
Here’s the whois info on the domain.
It created a wall. Didn’t go beyond that.
100 | CuriousLurker Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:22:14pm |
re: #97 TedStriker
Only way that I would knowingly click a link like that is in a VM.
I won’t click any link unless I know for sure where it goes, and I run NoScript in Firefox just to be on the safe side. Ditto email attachments; if someone didn’t tell me to expect one, I won’t open it till they confirm it’s legit.
101 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:24:01pm |
re: #91 goddamnedfrank
Advertising, say, a certain kind of beer isn’t going to make people who drink wine likely to drink beer, at all. It is, however, slightly likely to make someone who was planning on drinking beer already drink beer. It’s also likely to make children think that drinking beer is acceptable in society— the last part is the only possible link I see, and games are a bad fit for that crossover since they have their own self-justified realities.
Some things can’t be covered by an internet meme. Sometimes a series of gifs is the bare minimum of proof for a hypothesis.
Seriously, take a look at what I posted above about the metareview of the literature.
102 | CuriousLurker Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:24:28pm |
re: #99 Gus
نهاية التسرع ( انصحك لاتعيش الجو ) THE MIST
It created a wall. Didn’t go beyond that.
You were lucky. Don’t do that again PLEASE. *scowls at Gus*
103 | erik_t Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:25:09pm |
re: #100 CuriousLurker
I won’t click any link unless I know for sure where it goes, and I run NoScript in Firefox just to be on the safe side. Ditto email attachments; if someone didn’t tell me to expect one, I won’t open it till they confirm it’s legit.
I include a subject statement. eg: [ blablablasubject, (2 attachments, ~480kb) ].
This has served me well and I’ve never seen a nefarious spambot emulate it.
104 | CuriousLurker Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:26:45pm |
re: #103 erik_t
I include a subject statement. eg: [ blablablasubject, (2 attachments, ~480kb) ].
This has served me well and I’ve never seen a nefarious spambot emulate it.
Cool. Sounds like a pretty good policy.
105 | Gus Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:28:03pm |
re: #102 CuriousLurker
You were lucky. Don’t do that again PLEASE. *scowls at Gus*
Oops. Sorry. I didn’t post the video at least. It’s the bad part.
106 | goddamnedfrank Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:28:46pm |
A look at history might help illustrate what I am talking about. In World War Two, it is a fact that only 15-20 percent of the soldiers fired at the enemy. That is one in five soldiers actually shooting at a Nazi when he sees one. While this rate may have increased in desperate situations, in most combat situations soldiers were reluctant to kill each other. The Civil War was not dramatically different or any previous wars.In WW2 only one percent of the pilots accounted for thirty to forty percent of enemy fighters shot down in the air. Some pilots didn’t shoot down a single enemy plane.
In Korea, the rate of soldiers unwilling to fire on the enemy decreased and fifty five percent of the soldiers fired at the enemy. In Vietnam, this rate increased to about ninety five percent but this doesn’t mean they were trying to hit the target. In fact it usually took around fifty-two thousand bullets to score one kill in regular infantry units! It may be interesting to not that when Special Forces kills are recorded and monitored this often includes kills scored by calling in artillery or close air support. In this way SF type units could score very high kill ratios like fifty to a hundred for every SF trooper killed. This is not to say these elite troops didn’t score a large number of bullet type kills. It is interesting to note that most kills in war are from artillery or other mass destruction type weapons.
If one studies history and is able to cut through the hype, one will find that man is often unwilling to kill his fellow man and the fighter finds it very traumatic when he has to do so. On the battlefield the stress of being killed and injured is not always the main fear.
If these mass shootings, especially at schools are becoming a problem now, and that’s kind of an assumption to begin with since the overall rate has been more or less steady for a while, shouldn’t we ask why. If you argue that it’s the ubiquity of guns, then try to explain this against the steadily decreasing number of US households with guns. The number of US households with guns have decreased as the US population has become more and more urban, and the US intentional homicide rate is at the lowest point it’s been in 40 years. If it’s the guns why wasn’t it always the guns, and why was the intentional homicide rate higher when the total number of guns manufactured was lower but more US households had them?
107 | CuriousLurker Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:31:59pm |
re: #105 Gus
Oops. Sorry. I didn’t post the video at least. It’s the bad part.
E gad. Just be careful. If you pull a Houdini due to malware when everyone is already worried about you ‘cause of your leg, then we’re gonna be double worried. // scolding over
Okay, time to get ready for Monday. Later, y’all.
108 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:32:35pm |
re: #106 goddamnedfrank
There is really unlikely to ever be a single factor that acts in a purely linear fashion.
But this sentence confuses me:
If it’s the guns why wasn’t it always the guns, and why was the intentional homicide rate higher when the total number of guns manufactured was lower but more US households had them?
Isn’t that an option to explain that right there, if you want to look for something simple?
109 | Gus Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:33:30pm |
re: #107 CuriousLurker
E gad. Just be careful. If you pull a Houdini due to malware when everyone is already worried about you ‘cause of your leg, then we’re gonna be double worried. // scolding over
Okay, time to get ready for Monday. Later, y’all.
Night CL.
110 | klys Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:35:35pm |
re: #106 goddamnedfrank
If these mass shootings, especially at schools are becoming a problem now, and that’s kind of an assumption to begin with since the overall rate has been more or less steady for a while, shouldn’t we ask why. If you argue that it’s the ubiquity of guns, then try to explain this against the steadily decreasing number of US households with guns. The number of US households with guns have decreased as the US population has become more and more urban, and the US intentional homicide rate is at the lowest point it’s been in 40 years. If it’s the guns why wasn’t it always the guns, and why was the intentional homicide rate higher when the total number of guns manufactured was lower but more US households had them?
From your quote:
In WW2 only one percent of the pilots accounted for thirty to forty percent of enemy fighters shot down in the air.
One could extrapolate that this means that some percentage of the population is …more comfortable with being willing to fire. With better availability of guns that have higher firing rates in the hands of more of the general populace (and I suspect that rate may have increased somewhat since, say, the 1940s), that could potentially put guns capable of higher kill totals in the hands of more people willing to pull the trigger.
This is all theoretical, of course.
There are other countries that enjoy video games. They don’t have the same rate of gun violence the US does. There have to be other factors involved.
111 | Kragar (Antichrist ) Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:39:27pm |
112 | goddamnedfrank Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:40:59pm |
re: #108 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
There is really unlikely to ever be a single factor that acts in a purely linear fashion.
But this sentence confuses me:
Isn’t that an option to explain that right there, if you want to look for something simple?
If more US households had guns then a greater percentage of children had access to them in the past. If the theory that these mass / school shootings are a relatively new phenomena because of the availability of guns in society, the ubiquity of guns in homes when the boomers were growing up should have been reflected in the earlier bumps in the homicide rate. Anyway, most criminologists I’ve read have tended to explain that second bump in the homicide rate by the disproportionate number of young males dumped on society by the baby boom, the first bump is usually attributed to Prohibition.
113 | TedStriker Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:44:22pm |
re: #111 Kragar
GOP strategist: We need Rubio because ‘he knows who Tupac is’
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Wow.
Patronizing, with a hint of bigotry thrown in.
114 | Mattand Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:48:53pm |
re: #91 goddamnedfrank
I like how the Einstein depicted is the elderly version from the 40’s and 50’s, but is dressed like an accountant from 1905.
115 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:56:00pm |
re: #112 goddamnedfrank
If more US households had guns then a greater percentage of children had access to them in the past. If the theory that these mass / school shootings are a relatively new phenomena because of the availability of guns in society, the ubiquity of guns in homes when the boomers were growing up should have been reflected in the earlier bumps in the homicide rate. Anyway, most criminologists I’ve read have tended to explain that second bump in the homicide rate by the disproportionate number of young males dumped on society by the baby boom, the first bump is usually attributed to Prohibition.
I didn’t think the theory was school shootings were new because of the availability of guns. I didn’t really think school shootings were new, I thought they’d just gotten deadlier. I could be totally wrong on that, of course.
I don’t think we should construct gun laws focused on stopping mass shootings, but one that will help in a broader way.
116 | goddamnedfrank Sun, Feb 10, 2013 10:04:40pm |
If you look at the US intentional homicide rate chart, you’ll notice that the lowest decade plus dip corresponds to the time period that the government allowing its surplus “assault rifles” to be sold at below cost via mail order. I can’t find any stories of school shootings from this period, though one could argue that the end of the era was marked by the Charles Whitman incident in 1966.
re: #115 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
I don’t think we should construct gun laws focused on stopping mass shootings, but one that will help in a broader way.
This I completely agree with. Which is why I think it’s perfectly reasonable to target compact handguns, even though if my policy were enacted a good chunk of the guns I own would suddenly be heavily restricted. Even if the intentional homicide rate is low, the fact that concealable handguns are responsible for the vast majority of gun crime is a compelling reason for them to be much more heavily regulated.
117 | Lidane Sun, Feb 10, 2013 10:11:38pm |
LA shooting suspect mailed package to Anderson Cooper huff.to/12xf2A6— Huffington Post (@HuffingtonPost) February 11, 2013
120 | dragonath Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:07:05am |
OH SAY CAN YOU SEE, BY THE DAWN’S EARLY AUUUUGGGGHHH
122 | dragonath Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:18:15am |
Whoa! Has that ever happened before, I wonder?
124 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:42:07am |
125 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:42:21am |
re: #122 dragonath
Whoa! Has that ever happened before, I wonder?
Pope Benedict said on Monday he will resign on Feb 28 because he no longer has the strength to fulfill the duties of his office, becoming the first pontiff since the Middle Ages to take such a step.
126 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:20:10am |
re: #125 sattv4u2
Let’s see if the Catholic church blows another chance at reform.
127 | Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:20:56am |
I’m waiting for il Papa to announce that he is resigning in order to be with “the woman (or the man) I love”
128 | Shvaughn Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:21:45am |
re: #126 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
Let’s see if the Catholic church blows another chance at reform.
You say that as if there’s a chance they won’t blow it.
129 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:22:47am |
FTA
In a statement, the pope said in order to govern “…both strength of mind and body are necessary, strength which in the last few months, has deteriorated in me to the extent that I have had to recognize my incapacity to adequately fulfill the ministry entrusted to me.
130 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:28:46am |
AP story
[Link: hosted.ap.org…]
the pontiff had been advised by his doctor not to take any more transatlantic trips and had been considering stepping down for months.
131 | Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:34:46am |
Who should be the next Pope? If you could nominate ANYBODY, regardless of race, gender or even being Catholic, who would you choose?
132 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:35:48am |
re: #129 sattv4u2
The weird political part is that in saying that, there’s an implicit criticism of John Paul II for not stepping down.
133 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:36:51am |
re: #131 Vicious Babushka
I knew an old parish priest who would have been great, but he died.
Probably my friend Marge, otherwise known as Sister Mary Clemente. Though she’s quite old, she’s sharp as a tack.
134 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:37:09am |
re: #131 Vicious Babushka
Who should be the next Pope? If you could nominate ANYBODY, regardless of race, gender or even being Catholic, who would you choose?
Michel Piccoli
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]
135 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:37:39am |
re: #132 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
The weird political part is that in saying that, there’s an implicit criticism of John Paul II for not stepping down.
And many prior
136 | dragonath Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:40:02am |
I actually think it would be a good precedent for popes to step down before they keel over, but that’s just me.
I’d nominate the San Diego Chicken
137 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:43:23am |
I agree
I don’t think there should be a retirement ‘age” per se, but some self awareness (coupled with advice from staff and physicians) shouold come in to play
138 | BongCrodny Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:43:26am |
re: #131 Vicious Babushka
Who should be the next Pope? If you could nominate ANYBODY, regardless of race, gender or even being Catholic, who would you choose?
I dunno, but I’d kinda like to see somebody start a rumor that Obama would like to be Pope, if only to see the googly eyes from certain news commentators.
139 | Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:44:13am |
re: #138 BongCrodny
I dunno, but I’d kinda like to see somebody start a rumor that Obama would like to be Pope, if only to see the googly eyes from certain news commentators.
Glenn Beck: “Obama to make himself Pope and hand the Papal crown over to the new Muslim Caliphate.”— United Liberals (@UnitedLiberals) February 11, 2013
140 | Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:45:15am |
No pope has resigned since 1415, which is also the last time the Pittsburgh Pirates had a winning record.— Nate Silver (@fivethirtyeight) February 11, 2013
141 | BongCrodny Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:45:23am |
re: #136 dragonath
I actually think it would be a good precedent for popes to step down before they keel over, but that’s just me.
Popes, judges, doctors, acrobats, baseball managers, William Shatner.
142 | dragonath Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:45:23am |
OBAMA KNOWS
143 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:46:36am |
Hey, wait, Colbert is Catholic.
There we go.
144 | BongCrodny Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:47:34am |
re: #139 Vicious Babushka
Glenn Beck: “Obama to make himself Pope and hand the Papal crown over to the new Muslim Caliphate.”
Man, you can’t even make a joke these days without having some nutball already beat you to the punch.
145 | BongCrodny Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:48:15am |
re: #143 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
Hey, wait, Colbert is Catholic.
There we go.
That works.
146 | dragonath Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:48:46am |
Speaking about Pope Obama, here’s a lame cartoon from the Investor’s Business Daily.
So, yeah, this is what right wingers think about, I guess
147 | Usually refered to as anyways Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:50:58am |
re: #131 Vicious Babushka
Who should be the next Pope? If you could nominate ANYBODY, regardless of race, gender or even being Catholic, who would you choose?
Narayanan Krishnan
148 | BongCrodny Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:53:16am |
re: #146 dragonath
Speaking about Pope Obama, here’s a lame cartoon from the Investor’s Business Daily.
So, yeah, this is what right wingers think about, I guess
I love Ramirez’s art, but his ideas are strictly Wingnut 101.
My local rag has taken to running Glenn McCoy’s cartoons, and seeing just one of those stupid things puts me in a fouler mood than any 20 editorials-I-don’t-agree-with.
149 | Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:55:05am |
re: #146 dragonath
Speaking about Pope Obama, here’s a lame cartoon from the Investor’s Business Daily.
So, yeah, this is what right wingers think about, I guess
We can expect that to be reTweeted by TGDN like about a million gazillion times.
150 | freetoken Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:55:23am |
re: #126 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
Let’s see if the Catholic church blows another chance at reform.
Time for a female Pope?
151 | BongCrodny Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:55:53am |
re: #131 Vicious Babushka
Who should be the next Pope? If you could nominate ANYBODY, regardless of race, gender or even being Catholic, who would you choose?
Now that I think of it, instead of an old, white male let’s go in the completely opposite direction.
I’ll nominate Malala Yousafzai.
152 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:55:55am |
re: #141 BongCrodny
Popes, judges, doctors, acrobats, baseball managers, William Shatner.
Shatner seems to be still going strong. Hey, maybe he could be pope.
153 | freetoken Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:56:48am |
re: #152 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
Shatner seems to be still going strong. Hey, maybe he could be pope.
Free-verse sermons - that could set a trend.
155 | BongCrodny Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:57:05am |
re: #152 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
Shatner seems to be still going strong. Hey, maybe he could be pope.
Pope Tiberius?
156 | Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:58:45am |
Did Nicodemus predict the whole line of Popes? So who’s up next in Nico’s batting order?
157 | Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:01:41am |
The first Pope to use Twiltter, and the first Pope in centuries to step down…more than a coincidence?
158 | Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:01:53am |
Oh it was some guy named Malachy who predicted the popes, not Nicodemus.
159 | Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:02:25am |
re: #157 Sol Berdinowitz
The first Pope to use Twiltter, and the first Pope in centuries to step down…more than a coincidence?
Megan Phelps-Roper also quit Westboro after using Twitter.
160 | Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:04:31am |
Just checked the wiki for Malachy’s batting order. Peter the Roman is up next. Looks like a power hitter. Then the World Series is over.
162 | Lidane Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:10:15am |
Derp:
Perhaps the Pope is setting an example for that gutless wonder Barry Soetoro. Time to fly Barry, take the hint & do the right thing. #tgdn— William Tell (@MagnusBumpus) February 11, 2013
163 | dragonath Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:11:07am |
It actually seems kind of fitting for this pope to go out in such a medieval fashion. He’s a traditionalist!
164 | Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:19:55am |
re: #163 dragonath
It actually seems kind of fitting for this pope to go out in such a medieval fashion. He’s a traditionalist!
You mean he’s gettin’ all medieval on us?
165 | Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:20:44am |
re: #131 Vicious Babushka
Who should be the next Pope? If you could nominate ANYBODY, regardless of race, gender or even being Catholic, who would you choose?
My dorm mate, (Sean) Patrick O’Malley, who will be one of the voting cardinals.
166 | ProBosniaLiberal Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:26:41am |
I see the Pope is resigning. The first since 1415. So, who is it now?
167 | Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:27:03am |
re: #165 Decatur Deb
My dorm mate, (Sean) Patrick O’Malley, who will be one of the voting cardinals.
My old high school friend, Katie McLean, who once dragged me into a church so that we could get a glimpse of her favorite opera star Renata Tebaldi.
168 | Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:27:19am |
re: #166 ProBosniaLiberal
I see the Pope is resigning. The first since 1415. So, who is it now?
We’re accepting nominations.
169 | Lidane Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:28:44am |
re: #166 ProBosniaLiberal
I see the Pope is resigning. The first since 1415. So, who is it now?
Pope Kanye or GTFO. The Twitter meltdowns will be hilarious.
170 | Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:29:11am |
Justin Bieber. Let the destruction begin.
171 | dragonath Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:31:15am |
Interesting observation from a commenter over at Commonweal:
The Pope used the expression ingravescentem aetatem which echoes Paul VI’s decision about retirement ages for clerics of lower than papal status; suggesting that Popes may henceforth retire at a certain age.
172 | darthstar Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:32:51am |
Who the fuck does this guy think he is? Sarah Palin? He can’t just quit.
[Link: news.yahoo.com…]
VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Benedict XVI announced Monday that he would resign Feb. 28 — the first pontiff to do so in nearly 600 years. The decision sets the stage for a conclave to elect a new pope before the end of March.
173 | Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:34:07am |
re: #171 dragonath
Interesting observation from a commenter over at Commonweal:
At a frequency of 1:30 years, they could probably manage it on a case-by-case basis.
174 | darthstar Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:43:33am |
“I’m 85 years old…this celibacy vow is bad enough, but after seeing Beyonce during the superbowl I just can’t take it anymore!”
—Benedict XVI
175 | Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:44:24am |
re: #174 darthstar
“I’m 85 years old…this celibacy vow is bad enough, but after seeing Beyonce during the superbowl I just can’t take it anymore!”
—Benedict XVI
Why are you so sure that he swings that way? Maybe he is totally into Justin Bieber.
176 | Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:45:35am |
re: #175 Vicious Babushka
Why are you so sure that he swings that way? Maybe he is totally into Justin Bieber.
Can’t prove he’s straight, but I’m sure he has better taste in music.
177 | Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:45:38am |
re: #175 Vicious Babushka
Why are you so sure that he swings that way? Maybe he is totally into Justin Bieber.
hehehehe. OK, let’s make Ozzy Osbourne the next Pope. Many ‘plodey heads.
178 | Lidane Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:47:31am |
Just talked to Dan Brown. The Pope resigning DEFINITELY had something to do with the lights going out at the Super Bowl. #DEVELOPING— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) February 11, 2013
179 | Lidane Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:48:26am |
Lindsey Graham won’t confirm new Pope until he gets some answers about the Synods of Carthage.— Matt Yglesias (@mattyglesias) February 11, 2013
180 | Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:53:09am |
181 | dragonath Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:10:58am |
Benedict XVI @PontifexEx cathedra, omnibus vobis. Pontifex? Pontifutuis vos. #TGDN #Phallus_Dei #Ad_Undus
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183 | Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:19:53am |
re: #179 Lidane
That explains all the ongoing vacancies on the Council of Trent as well.
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184 | HappyWarrior Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:24:42am |
re: #182 Flounder
I nominate Nathan Lane for Pope.
Joe Pesci. In thinking about what George Carlin always said about him. Seriously though, what shocking news as this hasn’t happened in nearly 700 years.
185 | lawhawk Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:26:13am |
Greets and saluts from the soggy NYC metro area. Freezing rain made for a miserable commute in, but it’s still rough going from Long Island and Connecticut where they’re still clearing snow off roads.
And then the Pope announced that he’s retiring. Well, he’s leaving on his own terms, rather than on a stretcher. I’ve read that he’s always considered himself to be a caretaker pope until his successor could be arranged. This may play into that, but who knows.
If the College of Cardinals were thinking about a long-term shift in policy, they ought to consider someone from outside Europe for the next pope, but I think they’ll stick with what’s got them to this point.
186 | sagehen Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:26:52am |
re: #175 Vicious Babushka
Why are you so sure that he swings that way? Maybe he is totally into Justin Bieber.
Isn’t Justin Bieber a little too old for him?
187 | dragonath Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:27:18am |
188 | Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:30:12am |
re: #187 dragonath
Yahoo comments are always sickening. These people were all caught on the road because they could not leave work any sooner.
189 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:30:27am |
re: #185 lawhawk
If the College of Cardinals were thinking about a long-term shift in policy, they ought to consider someone from outside Europe for the next pope, but I think they’ll stick with what’s got them to this point.
Prediction (based on nothing but gut instinct) The next Pope will come from (be currently based in) South America
190 | Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:32:33am |
re: #189 sattv4u2
If the College of Cardinals were thinking about a long-term shift in policy, they ought to consider someone from outside Europe for the next pope, but I think they’ll stick with what’s got them to this point.Prediction (based on nothing but gut instinct) The next Pope will come from (be currently based in) South America
Malachy’s prediction says that he will be a Roman.
191 | Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:37:22am |
Going into the Low-Fi Zone for a week or so, if we can get around the roads that are flooding from last night’s storms. BBE (Be Back Erratically)
193 | Lidane Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:39:17am |
re: #189 sattv4u2
Prediction (based on nothing but gut instinct) The next Pope will come from (be currently based in) South America
I doubt it. After John Paul II’s death, there were expectations that the next Pope would be from South America or Africa because of the resurgence of the Church there, but the Vatican went with Ratzinger.
I’m sure they’ll find another European cardinal to go with.
194 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:40:33am |
re: #193 Lidane
I doubt it. After John Paul II’s death, there were expectations that the next Pope would be from South America or Africa because of the resurgence of the Church there, but the Vatican went with Ratzinger.
I’m sure they’ll find another European cardinal to go with.
Most likely, but as stated, just a gut feeling (and yes, partially based on the expectations from last conclave)
195 | dragonath Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:40:45am |
Hasn’t the college ever felt the urge to stick it to Malachy? Roman Schmoman, we’re gonna choose a left handed Mongolian ex-Communist, that’s what.
196 | Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:40:56am |
Church closes food bank because it attracts poor people… #UniteBlue #p2 #ctl #WWJDnotThis twitter.com/didikins4life/…— diane straub (@didikins4life) February 11, 2013
197 | Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:42:40am |
Another tragedy reminds us that all shootings are “too close to home.” 3 People Shot In Courthouse in Wilmington, DE nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Sho…— Kennett Area Dems (@KennettDems) February 11, 2013
198 | Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:43:15am |
BREAKING: Mayor: Man suspected of shooting 3 at Del. courthouse is dead; victims included man’s wife.— The Associated Press (@AP) February 11, 2013
199 | Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:47:11am |
re: #195 dragonath
Hasn’t the college ever felt the urge to stick it to Malachy? Roman Schmoman, we’re gonna choose a left handed Mongolian ex-Communist, that’s what.
Saw a commercial last night for some restaurant chain espousing their new “Mongolian Stir-fry - with beef and shrimp”. I never quite associated seafood with Mongolia.
:p
200 | Lidane Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:48:54am |
re: #194 sattv4u2
Most likely, but as stated, just a gut feeling (and yes, partially based on the expectations from last conclave)
I’m just thinking that Ratzinger’s time as Pope has been even more conservative than usual. Plus he surrounded himself with cardinals who were highly traditionalist as well. I can’t see such an insular group going with anyone who isn’t another old white guy from Europe.
202 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:49:54am |
re: #193 Lidane
I doubt it. After John Paul II’s death, there were expectations that the next Pope would be from South America or Africa because of the resurgence of the Church there, but the Vatican went with Ratzinger.
I’m sure they’ll find another European cardinal to go with.
It’s a shame Cardinal Sin is no longer available.
203 | Targetpractice Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:51:35am |
So Pope Bennie is hanging it up? That’s rather sudden. Always thought this was sort of a “‘til death do us part” sort of deal.
204 | Vicious Babushka Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:52:12am |
re: #203 Targetpractice
So Pope Bennie is hanging it up? That’s rather sudden. Always thought this was sort of a “‘til death do us part” sort of deal.
No longer “fun to be the Pope”
205 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:52:52am |
re: #196 Vicious Babushka
“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” - Gandhi (attributed)
206 | Mattand Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:53:10am |
re: #137 sattv4u2
I agree
I don’t think there should be a retirement ‘age” per se, but some self awareness (coupled with advice from staff and physicians) shouold come in to play
Given the Church’s handling of their little child molestation issues, I would not hold my breath on the self-awareness thingy.
207 | Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:53:18am |
re: #203 Targetpractice
So Pope Bennie is hanging it up? That’s rather sudden. Always thought this was sort of a “‘til death do us part” sort of deal.
Generally has been. However, if his medical staff advised him to not travel, and so forth, he might have decided that stepping down was better for the Church than its leadership being hampered by having a immobile husk sitting on the throne.
208 | Targetpractice Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:53:26am |
209 | Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:54:34am |
re: #206 Mattand
Given the Church’s handling on their little child molestation issues, I would not hold my breath on the self-awareness thingy.
There has to be some muttering on the fringe that the various scandals have a lot to do with this. Pressure to step down due to fostering cover ups, or perhaps not fostering them enough.
210 | Lidane Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:57:17am |
re: #206 Mattand
Given the Church’s handling off their little child molestation issues, I would not hold my breath on the self-awareness thingy.
The Pope is lucky. In the US, “I think I’ll retire now” doesn’t work for ppl suspected of actively covering up child rape.— Gabe Ortíz (@TUSK81) February 11, 2013
211 | Mattand Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:59:19am |
re: #209 Feline Fearless Leader
There has to be some muttering on the fringe that the various scandals have a lot to do with this. Pressure to step down due to fostering cover ups, or perhaps not fostering them enough.
I don’t know how “fringe” it is, given the enormity of the problem.
From everything I read about Ratzinger, he was old school to the core, to the point of making JP2 look like a hippie. Generally, you don’t retire from being the pope.
I’m sure health issues are playing a problem, but you have to wonder if some major shit is going to hit the fan, and soon.
212 | Targetpractice Mon, Feb 11, 2013 7:00:04am |
re: #210 Lidane
Indeed, makes one wonder if this isn’t part of an effort on the Church’s behalf to plow this particular story under with the election of a new pontiff.
213 | lawhawk Mon, Feb 11, 2013 7:00:14am |
Developing: Carnival Triumph engine fire has left ship drifting without propulsion. Tugboat is on route but it will take days to bring it back to a port. The ship will be brought in to a port in the Yucatan and [passengers] will be flown back to Houston where the cruise originated.
214 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 11, 2013 7:03:17am |
re: #211 Mattand
but you have to wonder if some major shit is going to hit the fan, and soon.
Maybe, but I don’t think so.
At his age (and failing health) it would be better for the churches future that if something was imminent it came while he was still Pope so the new one could come in without that being one of the 1st things on his plate
215 | Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Feb 11, 2013 7:05:37am |
re: #211 Mattand
I don’t know how “fringe” it is, given the enormity of the problem.
From everything I read about Ratzinger, he was old school to the core, to the point of making JP2 look like a hippie. Generally, you don’t retire from being the pope.
I’m sure health issues are playing a problem, but you have to wonder if some major shit is going to hit the fan, and soon.
Well, the Los Angeles diocese robbing various funds earmarked for other purposes to pay off lawsuits is certainly raising a stir. But you’d expect that to happen in an organization facing sudden financial challenges.
And any fundraising effort by them is essentially going to that purpose as well - regardless of how they sell it to the laity. Any funds raised are simply allowing them to divert regular income to the payoffs.
216 | Gus Mon, Feb 11, 2013 7:06:59am |
BREAKING: Lindsey Graham says he’ll put hold on new Pope till he gets answers on Benghazi— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) February 11, 2013
217 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 11, 2013 7:07:16am |
re: #213 lawhawk
Developing: Carnival Triumph engine fire has left ship drifting without propulsion. Tugboat is on route but it will take days to bring it back to a port. The ship will be brought in to a port in the Yucatan and will be flown back to Houston where the cruise originated.
“flown back”?
I would think it would be cheaper to tow it back
218 | Targetpractice Mon, Feb 11, 2013 7:08:03am |
re: #217 sattv4u2
“flown back”?
I would think it would be cheaper to tow it back
Think he meant passengers will be flown back…I hope.
219 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 11, 2013 7:08:10am |
And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons!
220 | Gus Mon, Feb 11, 2013 7:08:58am |
DEVELOPING: Lindsey Graham says he won’t let Pope Benedict resign until he gets some answers about Benghazi.— daveweigel (@daveweigel) February 11, 2013
222 | Bulworth Mon, Feb 11, 2013 7:09:13am |
re: #216 Gus
Did the Pope change the talking points for the Sunday talk shows? Was the Pope sleeping or watching the attack in real time video? The people of the world demand more answers and more information. /
224 | Mattand Mon, Feb 11, 2013 7:12:22am |
re: #214 sattv4u2
but you have to wonder if some major shit is going to hit the fan, and soon.
Maybe, but I don’t think so.
At his age (and failing health) it would be better for the churches future that if something was imminent it came while he was still Pope so the new one could come in without that being one of the 1st things on his plate
It would be better for the church’s future if they cleaned up their fucking act over their treatment of children. And as someone else alluded above, the new boss is most likely going to be the same as the old one.
225 | EmmaAnne Mon, Feb 11, 2013 7:12:27am |
Hillary Clinton for pope. She’d sort them out in short order.
226 | kirkspencer Mon, Feb 11, 2013 7:12:54am |
re: #215 Feline Fearless Leader
Well, the Los Angeles diocese robbing various funds earmarked for other purposes to pay off lawsuits is certainly raising a stir. But you’d expect that to happen in an organization facing sudden financial challenges.
And any fundraising effort by them is essentially going to that purpose as well - regardless of how they sell it to the laity. Any funds raised are simply allowing them to divert regular income to the payoffs.
Sorta. Funds accounting is interesting (sorta), and there are some legal issues that could give the LA diocese problems. Things that taxable corporations can do with moneys are specifically prohibited by tax exempts, and more than a few have to do with if and when you can move money earmarked ‘here’ to ‘there’.
Simplistically the only way it would allow diversion of regular income to the payoffs is if the regular income were originally going whatever the fundraising is now covering.
228 | Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Feb 11, 2013 7:24:04am |
re: #217 sattv4u2
“flown back”?
I would think it would be cheaper to tow it back
I presume he meant the passengers.
;)
229 | Flounder Mon, Feb 11, 2013 7:25:14am |
Catholic Church could make some money off this, Survivor Pope Island!?
231 | darthstar Mon, Feb 11, 2013 7:27:06am |
Roses are red,
Violets are bluish,
A leprechaun told me
The next pope will be jewish.
232 | Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 11, 2013 7:28:34am |
The Washington Times takes a giant step—backwards
But while some conservative leaders are courting minority groups, one of the movement’s ideological lodestars is taking a hard turn in the other direction. Last month, The Washington Times tapped Wesley Pruden, its one-time editor in chief, who was pushed out amid allegations that he allowed racism to fester in the newsroom, to run its Commentary section. Pruden’s return—part of a wide-ranging shakeup following the death of the Times’s founder—is a troubling sign for the opinion pages, long a key pipeline for conservative ideas and a training ground for right-of-center pundits.
Under Pruden’s leadership, from 1992 to 2008, the Times became a forum for the racialist hard right, including white nationalists, neo-Confederates, and anti-immigrant scare mongers (all of which the Southern Poverty Law Center and The Nation magazine have documented at length). Pruden’s own column, Pruden on Politics, was occasionally tinged with racial animus, too. In 2005, for instance, he lambasted the Senate for succumbing to “manufactured remorse” and passing a resolution of apology for blocking anti-lynching laws during the Jim Crow era.