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Ted Nugent at the SOTU? That’s Bad, but the Problem Goes a Lot Deeper

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Rep. Steve Stockman (R-Texas) wants to impeach President Obama over his proposals for gun control, and since he’s allowed to invite guests to the President’s State of the Union address, Stockman’s guest for the evening will be Ted Nugent. Of course. This is the Republican Party in 2013.

Congressman Steve Stockman (R-TX) has announced that he would be bringing musician and conservative loudmouth Ted Nugent to President Obama’s State of the Union address on Tuesday.

“I am excited to have a patriot like Ted Nugent joining me in the House Chamber to hear from President Obama,” Stockman said on his congressional website on Monday.

Now, that’s a responsible, upstanding member of Congress for ya! Ted Nugent, you may recall, was investigated by the Secret Service after swearing publicly that he’d “either be dead or in jail” if Obama was reelected. Who better to invite to a State of the Union speech?

Nugent’s bad enough, but I have to agree with Greg Sargent here: The Problem Runs a Lot Deeper Than Ted Nugent.

But really, this episode is significant for reasons that go well beyond Nugent. The key actor here who matters is Steve Stockman. The problem lies in all the over-the-top stuff GOP lawmakers say regularly that isn’t quite crazy enough to earn widespread condemnation, as Nugent’s quotes have, but are still whacked out enough to encourage an atmosphere that helps keep millions of GOP base voters sealed off from reality. The problem is the perpetual winking and nodding to The Crazy that is deemed marginally acceptable - the hints about creeping socialism, the claim that modest Obama executive actions amount to tyranny, the suggestions that Obama’s values are vaguely un-American and that Obama is transforming the country and the economy into something no longer recognizably American, and so on — more so than the glaringly awful stuff that gets the media refs to throw their flags.

As Jonathan Bernstein put it the other day, Republican lawmakers who flirt with this type of talk regularly are helping create an environment in which moderate Republicans are forever on the defensive and in fear of the base.

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292 comments

1 erik_t  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:29:19pm
As Jonathan Bernstein put it the other day, Republican lawmakers who flirt with this type of talk regularly are helping create an environment in which moderate Republicans are forever on the defensive and in fear of the base.

Moderate whatnows?

Seriously, someone point me towards one of these creatures. I’m writing a class paper on cryptozoology.

2 Amory Blaine  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:30:09pm

Not dead or in jail yet?

3 Bulworth  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:31:05pm
The problem is the perpetual winking and nodding to The Crazy that is deemed marginally acceptable - the hints about creeping socialism, the claim that modest Obama executive actions amount to tyranny, the suggestions that Obama’s values are vaguely un-American and that Obama is transforming the country and the economy into something no longer recognizably American, and so on — more so than the glaringly awful stuff that gets the media refs to throw their flags.

Leftists like PBO and Pelosi and MSNBC need to stop all the demonizing of conservatives because such rhetoric leads to hostility and violence.

4 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:32:22pm

The word patriot is coming to mean paranoid delusional zealot.

Is that what these paranoid delusional zealots really want?

5 Amory Blaine  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:33:05pm

Ted Nugent is the republican party.

6 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:34:29pm

The photo in the article sums it up: a rebel flag shirt and a US flag guitar: he belives in whichever vision of America he chooses at the moment…

7 Tigger2  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:35:19pm

The Secret Service could just call him a security risk and not let him in.

8 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:35:52pm

re: #1 erik_t

Moderate whatnows?

Seriously, someone point me towards one of these creatures. I’m writing a class paper on cryptozoology.

Although there is no concrete evidence, such as remains, dens, or even scat, they have been observed in the wild many times by drunken academics on field trips to local sports bars.

9 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:36:39pm

re: #1 erik_t

Moderate whatnows?

Seriously, someone point me towards one of these creatures. I’m writing a class paper on cryptozoology.

Srsly. Moderate Republicans went extinct back in 2008. You’ve got a better chance of finding a bunch of jackalopes bouncing around Texas than you do a moderate Republican.

10 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:36:40pm

re: #1 erik_t

Moderate whatnows?

Seriously, someone point me towards one of these creatures. I’m writing a class paper on cryptozoology.

My guess is he’s talking of the Frums of the GOP, you know, those deluded souls who keep telling themselves that after this next election, when the GOP gets its ass kicked thoroughly, that it’ll come around and realize that it needs to moderate itself to thrive again. You know, the ones who tell themselves that no matter how low the party sinks, they can still find “sane” candidates to support and thus hold out a hope that those “sane” candidates will eventually outnumber the loons.

11 Amory Blaine  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:37:24pm

Isn’t pretending to be crazy to avoid the draft not only cowardly, but a criminal offense?

12 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:37:40pm

re: #7 Tigger2

The Secret Service could just call him a security risk and not let him in.

They could claim he has cat scratch fever and institutionalize him.

13 engineer cat  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:38:12pm

“either be dead or in jail” if Obama was reelected

which reminds me - we are fast approaching the time at which rush the limbaugh swore that he would vacate the country if obamacare had not been repealed

14 erik_t  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:38:17pm

re: #10 Targetpractice

My guess is he’s talking of the Frums of the GOP, you know, those deluded souls who keep telling themselves that after this next election, when the GOP gets its ass kicked thoroughly, that it’ll come around and realize that it needs to moderate itself to thrive again. You know, the ones who tell themselves that no matter how low the party sinks, they can still find “sane” candidates to support and thus hold out a hope that those “sane” candidates will eventually outnumber the loons.

Oh. You mean the folks that tell people like you and I that we should vote in the Republican primaries in order to get more moderate candidates nominated?

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15 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:38:58pm

re: #11 Amory Blaine

Isn’t pretending to be crazy to avoid the draft not only cowardly, but a criminal offense?

That, it seems is just a story Ted told, he got a proper medical deferral, but he says he made up those stories just to fuck with the heads of the stoner rock and roll journalists who came to interview him.

16 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:39:25pm

Modern Republican economics:

17 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:40:11pm

The official Secret Service response to the Nuge is “no comment”.

18 Amory Blaine  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:40:14pm

re: #15 Sol Berdinowitz

That, it seems is just a story Ted told, he got a proper medical deferral, but he says he made up those stories just to fuck with the heads of the stoner rock and roll journalists who came to interview him.

I choose to believe the story he told and not the fraudulant deferral he received.

19 engineer cat  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:40:22pm

Proportional taxation…if it’s good enough for God

that’s another cubit you owe me

20 erik_t  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:41:00pm

re: #16 Lidane

Modern Republican economics:

@jnauman “Proportional taxation…if it’s good enough for God, it’s good enough for government.” - @BenCarson2016 on @TeamCavuto #TGDN #tcot

So we can finally wipe out all of those insane exemptions and make sure that Mitt Romney pays as high a tax rate as you or I?

Sah-weet.

21 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:41:48pm

re: #15 Sol Berdinowitz

That, it seems is just a story Ted told, he got a proper medical deferral, but he says he made up those stories just to fuck with the heads of the stoner rock and roll journalists who came to interview him.

It seems to confirm reports he is a lying sack of shit.

22 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:42:22pm

Some of Ted’s immortal wisdom: “Wang Dang Sweet Poontang.”

There are videos of it, but I don’t hate anyone here enough to inflict it on you.

Wang dang sweet poontang
Wang dang sweet poontang

That Nadine, what a teenage queen
She lookin’ so clean
Especially down in between
What I like

She come to town, she be foolin’ around
A puttin’ me down as a rock and roll clown
It’s all right

Wang dang sweet poontang
Wang dang sweet poontang

Wang dang, what a sweet poontang
A shakin’ my thang, as a rang
A dang, dang, in the bell, oh baby

She’s so sweet when she yanks on my meat
But down on the street, you know she can’t be beat
What the hell

Wang dang sweet poontang
Wang dang sweet poontang

Alright baby, you see what I’ve got here in my hands
I’ve got it right in my hands, this is for you, baby
I think I am gonna yank, on a wanton, look out

Wang dang, what a sweet poontang
A shakin’ my thang, as a rang
A dang, dang, in the bell

She’s so sweet when she yanks on my meat
But down on the street, you know she can’t be beat
What the hell

23 Amory Blaine  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:42:45pm

He’s fit enough to be a rock and roll star but not the draft? Bullshit.

24 Bulworth  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:44:02pm

re: #16 Lidane

Derp

25 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:44:17pm

re: #14 erik_t

Oh. You mean the folks that tell people like you and I that we should vote in the Republican primaries in order to get more moderate candidates nominated?

/

Yeah, the ones who live in their own little fairy-tale land where men like Boehner are cunning strategists who are orchestrating a campaign whereby the Tea Party and the party loons are setting themselves for this big fall, rather than just a witless fool who’s backed into a corner by his own “cunning plan” to harness those loons to put him in the Speaker’s seat.

26 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:44:21pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

Whe I was attending Indiana University in the mid 70’s, you could wak down the hallways of any dormitory floor at almost any time of day or night and be guaranteed to hear “Ted Nugent Live” coming from behind a towel-stuffed door somwhere…

27 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:44:41pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

Some of Ted’s immortal wisdom: “Wang Dang Sweet Poontang.”

There are videos of it, but I don’t hate anyone here enough to inflict it on you.

Lyrics to live by - if you’re a misogynistic red-neck back-woods fuck a goat kind of guy.

28 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:45:12pm

re: #26 Sol Berdinowitz

Whe I was attending Indiana University in the mid 70’s, you could wak down the hallways of any dormitory floor at almost any time of day or night and be guaranteed to hear “Ted Nugent Live” coming from behind a towel-stuffed door somwhere…

Wankers.

29 erik_t  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:45:55pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

Some of Ted’s immortal wisdom: “Wang Dang Sweet Poontang.”

There are videos of it, but I don’t hate anyone here enough to inflict it on you.

They should have sent a poet.

No, seriously, they should have.

30 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:46:06pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

And who can forget the inspirational ballad “Wango Tango”

I got salivate late, salivate late, salivate late
I got the droolin’, droolin’, get all wet,
salivate, salivate Got salivate, salivate, salivate, salivate, heh heh heh
Yeah you look so good baby, I like it, I like it, I like it
You know what I been talkin’ about honey
It’s a nice dance, we gotta a nice dance goin’ here Now what you gotta do, I’ll tell you what you gotta do
You got to pretend your face is a Maserati
It’s a Maserati It’s a Maserati
It’s a gettin’ hotty
It’s a Maserati, Maserati, Maserati

31 Bulworth  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:46:32pm

re: #20 erik_t

Uh, no. The sweet tax deductions for mortgage interest, real estate and state income taxes, and for the money I give to my wingnut church have to stay. But other than that, proportional! //

32 AntonSirius  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:47:31pm

re: #7 Tigger2

The Secret Service could just call him a security risk and not let him in.

You say that like he’s not a real security risk…

33 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:48:24pm

Barber & Staver: When the Constitution was Written, Homosexuality was a ‘Crime Against Nature’ Punishable by Death

As Barber explained, “the aberrant sexual behavior, the twisting of normal human sexuality that would be involved in order to consummate a so-called same-sex marriage” carried a punishment of death at the time the Constitution was written, so “there is now way that they would have ever intended that they would twist and deconstruct the fundamental cornerstone institution of marriage in order to put the government’s official stamp of approval on a crime against nature”

34 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:48:42pm

re: #28 b_sharp

Wankers.

and these days, most of them Tea partiers and/or GOP voters…

35 dragonfire1981  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:49:16pm

re: #33 Kragar (Antichrist )

Barber & Staver: When the Constitution was Written, Homosexuality was a ‘Crime Against Nature’ Punishable by Death

Yes and also women couldn’t vote, black people weren’t really people and abortion was illegal.

36 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:49:31pm

re: #33 Kragar (Antichrist )

Barber & Staver: When the Constitution was Written, Homosexuality was a ‘Crime Against Nature’ Punishable by Death

When the Constitution was written, black people were considered property and women were ineligible to vote.

37 dragonfire1981  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:49:51pm

re: #36 Sol Berdinowitz

When the Constitution was written, black people were considered property and women were ineligible to vote.

Jinx!

38 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:49:58pm

Gohmert: Military Under Obama Pushing ‘Active Discrimination Against Christianity’

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) appeared on today’s edition of Washington Watch Weekly with Tony Perkins in order to criticize the U.S. military for removing a small church steeple and cross-shaped windows at an Afghan base, which he claims means that the military won’t let service members worship.

As NBC News reported, the steeple and cross “violated Army regulations and could reinforce suspicions that the United States is fighting a holy war” against Islam, which is exactly how Taliban insurgents are framing the war.

But Gohmert said that by removing the steeple the military is telling service members that they “can’t have freedom of religion” or have the right to worship. The congressman said that people who “hate anything to do with Christianity” are leading a “witch hunt” in the military by pushing “active discrimination against Christianity.” He even suggested that they are banning chapels, rather than just removing symbols that violate Army regulations.

39 Petero1818  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:50:07pm

Wouldn’t it be fun if old Ted decided to get a little publicity by bringing a gun with him? That would fulfil his promise to be dead or in jail as he would certainly be arrested or shot. Beyond that, it would bring him and his cause a lot of publicity.

40 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:50:26pm

re: #36 Sol Berdinowitz

When the Constitution was written, black people were considered property and women were ineligible to vote.

SEE HOW FAR WE HAVE STRAYED?!?!?!
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41 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:50:42pm

Posted without comment:

42 engineer cat  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:51:20pm

She’s so sweet when she

and to think those destroyers of civilization as we nowwit the rolling stones were banned for songs with lyrics like “let’s spend the night together”

43 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:51:23pm

re: #41 Lidane

Posted without comment:

He wasn’t warning anyone, he was bragging.

44 gwangung  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:51:35pm

re: #36 Sol Berdinowitz

When the Constitution was written, black people were considered property and women were ineligible to vote.

And Asian people were considered heathens that were inherently unAmerican.

45 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:51:37pm

Looks like I’ve made a friend:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

46 dragonfire1981  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:51:39pm

re: #41 Lidane

Posted without comment:

That thud you just heard is me falling off my chair laughing hysterically.

47 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:51:50pm

re: #41 Lidane

Posted without comment:

Certainly explains the previous administration to a T.

48 engineer cat  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:52:15pm

UNEDUCATED POPULOUS

my doctor tells me it’s nothing to worry about unless it gets inflamed

49 Kid A  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:52:30pm

Ted Nugent haiku:

State of the Union?
An invite, hells yes I’ll go.
Like a dog in heat.

50 Bulworth  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:52:37pm

re: #20 erik_t

“@teamcavuto”

Now there’s a squad of dim lights if there ever was…

51 dragonfire1981  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:53:26pm

re: #50 Bulworth

“@teamcavuto”

Now there’s a squad of dim lights if there ever was…

Well the Avengers aren’t available and the Justice League said no and the X-men have a previous commitment so…we’re stuck with these guys.

52 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:53:58pm

re: #41 Lidane

Posted without comment:

An uneducated populous what?

53 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:54:00pm

re: #45 b_sharp

Uh oh.

54 Kid A  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:54:35pm

Ted Nugent at the SOTU. What on earth could possibly go wrong?

55 Mentis Fugit  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:54:51pm

re: #19 engineer cat

Proportional taxation…if it’s good enough for God

that’s another cubit you owe me

Hold on, I’ll give it to you in a couple of parsecs.

56 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:54:56pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

Uh oh.

Just as the fun is starting I have to run off and pick up the wife and take the grandkid to the doctor.

57 Bulworth  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:54:59pm

re: #33 Kragar (Antichrist )

Freedumb! Liberty!

58 darthstar  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:55:08pm

Part of me hopes Nugent can’t control himself and becomes the first person ever ejected from a SOTU address…and part of me hopes he’ll just shut the fuck up and sit there. I can guarantee I won’t be watching on Fox because they’ll be watching for his reaction (unless there’s only one camera feed and all the networks share it, in which case I hope he’s never given a second of screen time).

I also hope someone tries to censure this asshole congressman for disgracing the SOTU address by inviting a polarizing and disgusting figure such as the Nuge.

59 Amory Blaine  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:55:38pm

re: #36 Sol Berdinowitz

When the Constitution was written, black people were considered property and women were ineligible to vote.

When this card is played, I pull out the divorce trump card. A true abomination in the eyes of god.

60 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:56:12pm
61 Kid A  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:56:20pm

re: #58 darthstar

Oh, you can damn well bet they will have an eye in the sky watching his freak ass from start to finish.

62 Bulworth  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:56:41pm

re: #41 Lidane

Sorry to hear Carson is a wingnut.

63 darthstar  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:57:40pm

re: #60 Lidane

Does this mean Rubio will shout “Whoopee!” like young Anakin did in the movie?

64 dragonfire1981  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:57:44pm

re: #52 b_sharp

An uneducated populous what?

Heh, I know I’m a gamer to the core when as soon as I saw the word Populous I immediately thought of this.

65 Robur  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:58:15pm

Lets see..Shits and pisses in his pants to avoid draft,writes songs about sex and VD,kills penned up animals and claims to be a sportsman,gets gaurdianship over teen ager so he can have sex with the minor girl,claims to be family oriented and espouses guns and kids belong together while having sex with minor child while crapping on the actual morality of the left,goes nuts over Obama and claims that he is going to take guns and destroy constitution and threatens Obamas life…see did I miss anything?..Yep Typical Right Wing Gun Lovin God Fearin’ Conservative Patriotic Christian and the hero of so many “mericuns” even some of the numbskulls right here kickin’little green footballs..

66 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:58:49pm

re: #60 Lidane

Rubio gives me the same vibe as a young Anakin Skywalker.

Annoying as fuck and you wondered what the hell the producers were thinking?

67 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:59:26pm

re: #60 Lidane

Rubio as Anakin Skywalker…yeah, I can certainly see that. A whiny little nobody who thinks he’s destined for greatness but is instead just a mildly exceptional newbie.

68 dragonfire1981  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:59:32pm

re: #59 Amory Blaine

When this card is played, I pull out the divorce trump card. A true abomination in the eyes of god.

A pastor friend of mine told me a story about a parishoner who approached him because he’d decided to leave his wife for another woman and wanted prayer so God would bless him in his new relationship.

Yes, REALLY.

(the Pastor refused to pray with the guy…at least for his specific request)

69 Amory Blaine  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:59:33pm

Who is Jar Jar? Mitch McConnell?

70 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:59:54pm

re: #69 Amory Blaine

Who is Jar Jar? Mitch McConnell?

Paul Ryan.

71 Bulworth  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:00:10pm

re: #41 Lidane

Yes, like stories about talking snakes and donkeys, chariots of fire coming to whisk prophets off to heaven, stuff like that.

72 dragonfire1981  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:00:13pm

re: #69 Amory Blaine

Who is Jar Jar? Mitch McConnell?

Boehner. He’s orange enough.

73 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:00:39pm

No wait, Rand Paul is Jar Jar: The embarrassing joke that goes on far too long, even though nobody thought it funny to begin with.

74 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:00:45pm

re: #30 Kragar (Antichrist )

And who can forget the inspirational ballad “Wango Tango”

It would be pretty funny to hear Patrick Stewart or Ian McKellan reciting that as though it were Shakespeare.

75 dragonfire1981  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:01:14pm

re: #73 Targetpractice

No wait, Rand Paul is Jar Jar: The embarrassing joke that goes on far too long, even though nobody thought it funny to begin with.

Weesa gonna legalize weed?

76 Robur  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:01:31pm

re: #46 dragonfire1981

dragonfire..yeah I felt the same way about lindanes inanes……Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons for you are crunchy and tasty with ketchup…

77 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:01:52pm

re: #41 Lidane

Posted without comment:

Given the audience, it’s hard to tell if it was meant as a warning, or as advice.

78 dragonfire1981  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:01:57pm

re: #74 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

It would be pretty funny to hear Patrick Stewart or Ian McKellan reciting that as though it were Shakespeare.

Or a George Takei reading.

79 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:02:08pm

Uh oh.

80 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:02:12pm

Is Bryan Fischer moaning about this yet?

Army officer receives Medal of Honor

81 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:02:43pm

re: #78 dragonfire1981

Or a George Takei reading.

Sean Connery.

82 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:02:56pm

re: #39 Petero1818

Wouldn’t it be fun if old Ted decided to get a little publicity by bringing a gun with him? That would fulfil his promise to be dead or in jail as he would certainly be arrested or shot. Beyond that, it would bring him and his cause a lot of publicity.

That is just the sort of provocation they would love to see, proof that Obama wants to “disarm us all”.

83 Robur  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:03:13pm

sorry..lidane not lindane..smacks forehead!!!

84 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:03:34pm

re: #41 Lidane

Posted without comment:

America: uneducated and populous

85 dragonfire1981  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:03:39pm

re: #81 Kragar (Antichrist )

Sean Connery.

I’ve got you now Trebek!

86 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:05:01pm

re: #65 Robur

Lets see..Shits and pisses in his pants to avoid draft,writes songs about sex and VD,kills penned up animals and claims to be a sportsman,gets gaurdianship over teen ager so he can have sex with the minor girl,claims to be family oriented and espouses guns and kids belong together while having sex with minor child while crapping on the actual morality of the left,goes nuts over Obama and claims that he is going to take guns and destroy constitution and threatens Obamas life…see did I miss anything?..Yep Typical Right Wing Gun Lovin God Fearin’ Conservative Patriotic Christian and the hero of so many “mericuns” even some of the numbskulls right here kickin’little green footballs..

Yunno, there was a time when I had a bit of begrudging respect for Ted as an uncompromising individualist, but lately he has gone off the rails completely.

87 darthstar  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:07:18pm

re: #65 Robur

You’re new here, I see…Yes, there are a mix of conservatives, moderates, liberals, and progressives here. Just so you know, we try not to insult any of our members in general terms, though on occasion little flame wars will pop up. In general, we try to respect the opinions of everyone who posts here, even when we disagree with them politically.

It might be a good idea to let people get to know you a bit before spraying the room with random fire…just a thought.

88 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:08:16pm

You gotta love the contrast that’s gonna be put on display tomorrow night. On one side, you’ve got 20 victims of gun violence, on the other you have a “pro-gun” jackass who proudly proclaimed last year that he’d either be dead or in jail if Obama was reelected.

89 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:08:20pm

re: #85 dragonfire1981

I’ve got you now Trebek!

“The category is ‘Famous Mothers’.”

“Hah, Hah, Hah Hah Hah; My day has come!”

90 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:09:08pm

re: #15 Sol Berdinowitz

That, it seems is just a story Ted told, he got a proper medical deferral, but he says he made up those stories just to fuck with the heads of the stoner rock and roll journalists who came to interview him.

It was the Detroit Free Press, decidedly mainstream.

“He claims that 30 days before his draft board physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days, he ingested nothing but Vienna sausages and Pepsi; and a week before his physical, he stopped using bathrooms altogether, virtually living inside pants caked with his own excrement, stained by his urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment, he says. “… but if I would have gone over there, I’d have been killed, or I’d have killed, or I’d killed all the hippies in the foxholes…I would have killed everybody.” - Detroit Free Press Magazine , July 15, 1990”

91 darthstar  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:09:15pm

re: #88 Targetpractice

You gotta love the contrast that’s gonna be put on display tomorrow night. On one side, you’ve got 20 victims of gun violence, on the other you have a “pro-gun” jackass who proudly proclaimed last year that he’d either be dead or in jail if Obama was reelected.

If he’s off his meds tomorrow, he might just get his wish.

92 darthstar  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:10:17pm

re: #90 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

In other words, a “proper medical deferral.”
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93 darthstar  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:11:30pm

Oh, for fuck’s sake. Does every news show need to start with fifteen minutes of speculation about who will replace the pope?

94 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:11:34pm

re: #92 darthstar

In other words, a “proper medical deferral.”
//

Never a commissar around when you need one.

95 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:12:25pm

re: #93 darthstar

Oh, for fuck’s sake. Does every news show need to start with fifteen minutes of speculation about who will replace the pope?

I predict a middle aged white guy who is shoulder deep in Church politics and who has no real reason to reform anything.

96 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:12:57pm

re: #93 darthstar

Oh, for fuck’s sake. Does every news show need to start with fifteen minutes of speculation about who will replace the pope?

Bill Donohue.

97 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:13:27pm

re: #93 darthstar

Oh, for fuck’s sake. Does every news show need to start with fifteen minutes of speculation about who will replace the pope?

Cthulhu was the leading nominee, but he bowed out citing concerns that being affiliated with the Catholic Church might harm his own efforts to wipe out humanity.

///

98 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:14:41pm

re: #97 Targetpractice

Cthulhu was the leading nominee, but he bowed out citing concerns that being affiliated with the Catholic Church might harm his own efforts to wipe out humanity.

///

That, and the negative PR.

99 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:15:13pm

re: #97 Targetpractice

Cthulhu was the leading nominee, but he bowed out citing concerns that being affiliated with the Catholic Church might harm his own efforts to wipe out humanity.

///

I have it on good authority that Cthulhu’s career in Japanese tentacle porn effectively ended his chances to become Pope.

100 efuseakay  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:15:49pm

re: #81 Kragar (Antichrist )

Sean Connery.

Anal Bum Cover for 7000.

101 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:17:05pm

re: #99 Kragar (Antichrist )

I have it on good authority that Cthulhu’s career in Japanese tentacle porn effectively ended his chances to become Pope.

Hey, what he does during his own free time is none of our concern.

//

102 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:18:30pm

re: #101 Targetpractice

Hey, what he does during his own free time is none of our concern.

//

I’d agree, but these are Catholics we’re talking about.

103 stabby  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:20:35pm

re: #45 b_sharp

Looks like I’ve made a friend:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

He sounds like a teen.

104 dragonfire1981  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:22:30pm

re: #103 stabby

He sounds like a teen.

Hence why I’ve ignored him.

105 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:25:47pm
106 Gus  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:26:15pm

Ladies and gentleman. My fellow conservatives and Republicans. Good Christian people. I present to you, Jailbait, by Ted Nugent:

I’ve got no inhibitions
So keep your keys out of your ignition
I steal a car like I got the curse
I can’t resist the old lady’s purse

Jailbait you look so good to me
Jailbait won’t you set me free
Jailbait you look fine fine fine
I know I’ve got to have you in a matter of time

Well I don’t care if you’re just thirteen
You look too good to be true

I just know that you’re probably clean
There’s one lil’ thing I got do to you

Jailbait you look so good to me
Jailbait won’t you set me free
Jailbait you look fine fine fine
I know I’ve got to have you in a matter of time

So tell your mama that I’m back in town
She likes us boys when it’s time to get down
She’s got this craving for the underage
I just might be your mama’s brand new rage

Jailbait you look so good to me
Jailbait won’t you set me free
Jailbait you look fine fine fine
I know I got to have you in a matter of time

Honey you you you look so nice
She’s young she’s tender
Won’t you please surrender
She’s so fine she’s mine
All the time, all mine mine
It’s all right baby
It’s quite all right I asked your mama
Wait a minute officer
Don’t put those handcuffs on me
Put them on her and I’ll share her with you

Jailbait, jailbait

107 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:28:03pm

Ted Nugent, the poster child for all that is wrong with the modern GOP.

108 dragonfire1981  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:28:57pm

One thing this thread has taught me: Ted Nugent is a REALLY crappy lyricist.

109 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:30:34pm

re: #107 Targetpractice

Ted Nugent, the poster child for all that is wrong with the modern GOP.

But he reflects them so well:

In the early morning hours there’s a din in the air;
mayhem’s on the loose.
Stormtroopers comin’, and you better be prepared.
Got no time to choose.

Get ready. Stormtroopers comin’.

Comin’ up that street, jackboots steppin’ high.
Got to make a stand.
Looking in your windows and listen to your phone.
Keep a gun in your hand.

Get ready. Stormtroopers comin’.
Get ready. Stormtroopres comin’ around.

Two hundred down, and it’s comin’ ‘round again.
Got no second choice.
Where’s the justice and where’s that law.
Raise your healthy voice.

Get ready. Stormtroopers comin’.
We’ll be ready. Stormtroopers comin’.
Getting ready. Stormtroopers comin’.
Get ready. Stormtroopers comin’.

110 The Mountain That Blogs  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:30:35pm

I think Stockman might have overtaken Louis Gohmert for the coveted “Dumbest Man in Congress” award.

111 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:31:28pm

re: #108 dragonfire1981

One thing this thread has taught me: Ted Nugent is a REALLY crappy lyricist.

Come on, the man is an eloquent genius wordsmith.

112 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:32:08pm

re: #110 The Mountain That Blogs

I think Stockman might have overtaken Louis Gohmert for the coveted “Dumbest Man in Congress” award.

Depends on whether Gohmert goes through with his threat to put a hold on Hagel’s nomination tomorrow.

113 The Mountain That Blogs  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:32:56pm

re: #112 Targetpractice

Depends on whether Gohmert goes through with his threat to put a hold on Hagel’s nomination tomorrow.

Don’t you have to be in the Senate to do that?

114 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:34:27pm

re: #113 The Mountain That Blogs

Don’t you have to be in the Senate to do that?

Wait, perhaps I’m thinking of the wrong dumbass.

115 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:35:48pm

Indeed I was, it’s Graham I’m thinking of. All these names are starting to meld together in a never-ending stream of derp.

116 jaunte  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:36:36pm

Steve Stockman (R-TX) is an ignoramus.
With a rural constituency of like minds: [Link: www.therevisionariesmovie.com…]

117 Gus  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:36:55pm

Nugent wrote that when he was 33 years old.

118 engineer cat  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:37:00pm

Stormtroopers comin’, and you better be prepared

the thing i can never get straight about this is whether the wingnuts mean the gummint is coming or they are coming

119 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:37:15pm

re: #106 Gus

Ladies and gentleman. My fellow conservatives and Republicans. Good Christian people. I present to you, Jailbait, by Ted Nugent:

Remember when the wives of certain Congressmen (D and R alike) wanted to set the world on fire because Prince had a song that mentioned “masturbation”?

120 efuseakay  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:37:22pm

Would love to see the Nuge try to get in and get searched, then denied entry for concealed carry.

121 efuseakay  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:38:49pm

re: #114 Targetpractice

Wait, perhaps I’m thinking of the wrong dumbass.

There’s a plethora. Easy to get them confused with one another.

122 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:38:52pm

re: #117 Gus

Nugent wrote that when he was 33 years old.

IOKIYAR.

123 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:38:59pm

re: #120 efuseakay

Would love to see the Nuge try to get in and get searched, then denied entry for concealed carry.

I hope whoever draws the short straw and has to search him is at least given the benefit of a HAZMAT suit and a hepatitis vaccination.

124 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:40:23pm

Wow… Newsbusters actually has a link to my Dan Rather post in their “Editor’s Picks” section. I wonder if anyone has told the editor whassup?

125 William of Orange  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:48:06pm

Holy shit!

Has Foxnews ever made a blunder as big as this one??

Oops! FoxNews.com Uses Pic of Same Sex Wedding to Tout ‘Traditional’ Marriage

Hahaha!!!!

Schadenfreude is so nice sometimes.

126 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:48:07pm

ZOMG Moozlim! Eleventy!

127 A Mom Anon  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:48:28pm

re: #123 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

He says he’s going to “demilitarize” before going in to the SOTU. I thought he did that when he got out of serving in Vietnam.

He’s a freaking creep that shouldn’t be allowed around girls. Ever.

128 stabby  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:48:38pm

re: #109 Lidane

Holy crap, imagine what they’d say about him if he WASN’T a wingnut!

129 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:52:49pm

Not sure if serious:

130 William of Orange  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:52:51pm
131 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:54:16pm

re: #128 stabby

Holy crap, imagine what they’d say about him if he WASN’T a wingnut!

The morons are confusing the TV show Homeland with real life. They’re convinced that Brennan is a sleeper agent.

132 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:56:20pm

re: #130 William of Orange

Meanwhile, the other parody account is running for a new office:

Heh.

133 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 2:59:52pm

re: #126 Lidane

My plan is proceeding nicely! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

134 bratwurst  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:05:30pm

re: #125 William of Orange

Holy shit!

Has Foxnews ever made a blunder as big as this one??

I would vote for this blunder

Image: foley_d_fox_b64cc.jpg

except that it was probably not an accident!

135 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:06:42pm

Been told by a couple friends that there’s 62 Senators who’ve signaled that they’ll vote for Hagel’s confirmation as SecDef, but I’m having trouble verifying that. If true, then the threats of holds by Inhofe and Graham are toothless, unless Reid chooses to abide by them.

136 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:09:14pm

I’m such a secret Muslim, I practice autotaqiyya. That’s why I always screw up pork-based recipes, but nonetheless eat the results.

137 JDRhoades  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:09:21pm

There is a significant segment of the Republican Party that only belongs because the “I got mine, so fuck you” ethos of the modern GOP gives them political and philosophical cover for being completely sociopathic dickheads. These are the people who chortle about how Rand Paul “schooled” Hillary Clinton at the Benghazi hearings and who think it’s ALL KINDS OF AWESOME that he’s delivering the rebuttal to the rebuttal after the SOTU. What they don’t realize is that HRC came out of that with a 61 percent favorability rating, making her the most popular politician in America today, and Paul’s down around 39.

They’re so excited at the prospect that Nugent will yell something at the POTUS that they’re about ready to soil their Depends.

138 Gus  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:09:44pm

re: #126 Lidane

And what if he was? Because nothing says true American patriot like shredding the 1st Amendment to bits and calling for religious testing of political leaders. Yep.

139 Kid A  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:14:43pm

re: #126 Lidane

Your Twitter account may have been hacked as I got a direct message from you with a link to a site that warned me may not be safe for my computer. Just a friendly heads-up.

140 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:16:25pm

re: #139 Kid Skeeter

Your Twitter account may have been hacked as I got a direct message from you with a link to a site that warned me may not be safe for my computer. Just a friendly heads-up.

Yeah, that happened last night. I’ve since changed the passwords on all my accounts, revoked all the apps that had access to my Twitter aside from a couple I trust and I warned people to disregard any supposed DM from me because it was a hack.

141 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:24:26pm

re: #140 Lidane

Yeah, that happened last night. I’ve since changed the passwords on all my accounts, revoked all the apps that had access to my Twitter aside from a couple I trust and I warned people to disregard any supposed DM from me because it was a hack.

And here I thought you were saying nasty things about me.

142 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:25:31pm

re: #141 Newly Minted RWNJ

And here I thought you were saying nasty things about me.

I’m enough of a loudmouth that I’d do that openly, not hide behind a hack. ;)

143 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:26:26pm

re: #141 Newly Minted RWNJ

And here I thought you were saying nasty things about me.

Silence, knave!

144 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:26:44pm
145 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:30:00pm

Well, I’m sure this will help:

A Prayer for Barack Obama

Lord, expose the work of every witch, sorcerer, spiritualist or person from the dark side operating through his cabinet members or through anyone else closely associated with him. We block the power of the influence of the Yorùbá religion and all other groups of black people who worship their ancestors, in Jesus’ name. We put barriers around the United States that will bind and block the witchcraft coming from Kenya to influence our president in Jesus’ name. Let the power of every dedication of his past be broken, in Jesus’ name.

146 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:31:06pm

re: #144 Lidane

Needs the appropriate dramatic music:

147 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:32:40pm

Another deadbeat trying to avoid taking care of his kids:

Ex-Rep. Joe Walsh: I Can’t Afford Child Support Payments

Former Rep. and Tea Party darling Joe Walsh has filed a request in Cook County Circuit Court to cease paying child support payments because he is no longer employed, the Chicago Sun-Times reported on Monday:

In a Feb. 1 court filing entitled “motion to terminate child support obligation,” Walsh’s attorneys asked to change his support requirement, which under a previous agreement, was to continue until May.

“Joe’s employment has been terminated through no voluntary act of his own and he is without sufficient income or assets with which to continue to pay his support obligation,” the filing states. “Due to substantial change of circumstances, Joe requests that his child support obligation be terminated based on his present income and circumstances.”

At one point, the filing asks to amend his payments to be equal to 20 percent of his income — which presumably is 20 percent of zero.

148 gwangung  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:34:08pm

re: #138 Gus

And what if he was? Because nothing says true American patriot like shredding the 1st Amendment to bits and calling for religious testing of political leaders. Yep.

First Amendment? Isn’t there something in the main body that says no religious tests?

149 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:34:46pm

re: #147 Targetpractice

Another deadbeat trying to avoid taking care of his kids:

Ex-Rep. Joe Walsh: I Can’t Afford Child Support Payments

He got 174K a year for 2 years, plus whatever he’s been able to hustle off of fucktards in speaking fees.

The party of personal responsibility. HA!

150 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:35:46pm

re: #148 gwangung

First Amendment? Isn’t there something in the main body that says no religious tests?

Article VI, paragraph 3:

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

151 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:36:21pm

re: #126 Lidane

Not particularly.

152 Gus  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:36:32pm

re: #148 gwangung

First Amendment? Isn’t there something in the main body that says no religious tests?

Article VI, paragraph 3

153 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:38:50pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

Some of Ted’s immortal wisdom: “Wang Dang Sweet Poontang.”

There are videos of it, but I don’t hate anyone here enough to inflict it on you.

That made me throw up in my mouth.

154 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:39:41pm

I’m more concerned about creationist Christians on the science council than by moderate Muslims serving in security positions by several orders of magnitude.

155 Amory Blaine  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:41:00pm

The republican party used to pretend it was above this sort of thing. Inviting a loud brash rock and roll ruffian to such a decorous event.

156 makeitstop  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:44:41pm

re: #155 Amory Blaine

The republican party used to pretend it was above this sort of thing. Inviting a loud brash rock and roll ruffian to such a decorous event.

At this point, they have very few friends left. You go to the SOTU with the friends you’ve got, not the friends you wish you had.

157 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:45:55pm

WTF DERP

158 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:46:59pm

re: #155 Amory Blaine

The republican party used to pretend it was above this sort of thing. Inviting a loud brash rock and roll ruffian to such a decorous event.

That was before the old white guy and the vapid spokesmodel lost in 2008.

159 The Mountain That Blogs  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:49:35pm

re: #157 Vicious Babushka

He hits pretty much every meme at some point.

160 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:49:54pm

re: #157 Vicious Babushka

WTF DERP

Maybe its supposed to be “Greatest national threat this country has ever faced, Barack Hussein Obama? TGDN TCOT”

Like he’s trying to warn the President how insane these people are.

161 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:50:30pm

re: #158 Lidane

That was before the old white guy and the vapid spokesmodel lost in 2008.

I was about to say that that was back when they respected the office of the presidency…or at least pretended they did.

162 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:52:08pm

re: #159 The Mountain That Blogs

He hits pretty much every meme at some point.

If Obama is as bad as PrezDog says, how come he’s not in TwitterGulag?

163 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:52:50pm

Not sure if serious or Poe’s Law:

164 The Mountain That Blogs  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:53:20pm

re: #162 Vicious Babushka

Because he’s in the Defense Network. Duh.

165 The Mountain That Blogs  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:54:42pm

re: #163 Lidane

There is no CA-54.

166 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 3:59:29pm

DERP

167 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:00:00pm

re: #81 Kragar (Antichrist )

Sean Connery.

James Earl Jones.

168 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:01:13pm

DERP DERP TEH STUPID!

169 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:01:59pm

Jesus Christ TGDN is retarded.
Pardon my French.

170 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:05:57pm

re: #169 Varek Raith

Jesus Christ TGDN is retarded.
Pardon my French.

Yes, they are as dumb as you think.

I had a conversation with a TGDN wingnut who didn’t understand how it was possible that Obama won the election because Mitt Romney had so many more red spaces.

171 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:07:01pm
172 Gus  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:09:42pm
173 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:12:27pm
174 palomino  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:16:47pm

re: #168 Vicious Babushka

Was Fluke at any point demanding that govt pay for abortions?

My recollection was she demanded that private insurance cos. offer subsidized birth control pills the same way they subsidize most other forms of medication. So the only govt role was to pass rules requiring employers and their ins. cos. to pay for this (which was subsequently modified so religious organizations wouldn’t have to pay anything at all for contraception coverage). Abortion was never in the mix, and taxpayer dollars weren’t either.

The tweet shows the unbridled fact-free paranoia on the right: “we’re gonna have to pay for those people to have sex and abortions and HD TV’s…America is ruined, God help us!”

175 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:17:27pm

Brian Williams just described the cruise liner passengers as ‘fighting like savages over food and bathrooms’. It has been less than 24hrs!
Lol, yuppies.

176 engineer cat  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:20:52pm

Obama wants international background checks to buy guns, Hell he won’t even let us see his college records

watch it buster imma make it so you can’t even buy a beer without showing your penis

177 freetoken  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:21:41pm

New genes for short-sightedness identified

An international team of scientists led by King’s College London has discovered 24 new genes that cause refractive errors and myopia (short-sightedness).

Myopia is a major cause of blindness and visual impairment worldwide, and currently there is no cure. These findings, published today in the journal Nature Genetics, reveal genetic causes of the trait, which could lead to finding better treatments or ways of preventing the condition in the future.

Thirty per cent of Western populations and up to 80 per cent of Asian people suffer from myopia. During visual development in childhood and adolescence the eye grows in length, but in myopes it grows too long, and light entering the eye is then focused in front of the retina rather than on it. This results in a blurred image. This refractive error can be corrected with glasses, contact lenses or surgery. However, the eye remains longer, the retina is thinner, and this may lead to retinal detachment, glaucoma or macular degeneration, especially with higher degrees of myopia. Myopia is highly heritable, although up to now, little was known about the genetic background.

To find the genes responsible, researchers from Europe, Asia, Australia and the United States collaborated as the Consortium for Refraction and Myopia (CREAM). They analysed genetic and refractive error data of over 45,000 people from 32 different studies, and found 24 new genes for this trait, and confirmed two previously reported genes. Interestingly, the genes did not show significant differences between the European and Asian groups, despite the higher prevelance among Asian people. The new genes include those which function in brain and eye tissue signalling, the structure of the eye, and eye development. The genes lead to a high risk of myopia and carriers of the high-risk genes had a tenfold increased risk.

[…]

However, as far as I know, no genes have been identified as causes for Derp.

178 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:22:03pm

re: #174 palomino

Was Fluke at any point demanding that govt pay for abortions?

My recollection was she demanded that private insurance cos. offer subsidized birth control pills the same way they subsidize most other forms of medication. So the only govt role was to pass rules requiring employers and their ins. cos. to pay for this. Abortion was never in the mix, and taxpayer dollars weren’t either.

The tweet shows the unbridled fact-free paranoia on the right: “we’re gonna have to pay for those people to have sex and abortions and HD TV’s…America is ruined, God help us!”

TGDN: Where the wingnuts are totally skeptical about Obama’s ID and the “facts” of Benghazi, while living in their own echo chamber of Fake Quotes, election results maps alleged to be “gun violence” maps, and silly urban legends.

179 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:22:04pm

Dear wingnuts,
Why are you so afraid do background checks?
You’ve got nothing to hide…
Right?

180 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:23:22pm

re: #174 palomino

My recollection was she demanded that private insurance cos. offer subsidized birth control pills the same way they subsidize most other forms of medication.

She was demanding that the insurance she and her fellow law school students were required to pay for as a prerequisite for attending Georgetown cover bc pills because they’re a treatment to prevent ovarian cysts, endometriosis, etc. and not just pregnancy. Basically the argument is that since insurance that doesn’t cover preventative medicine costs more in actuarial terms, it’s unfair for religious orgs to force their religion on their non religious students / employees, especially when the org only negotiates the plan and doesn’t pay for it entirely.

181 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:24:01pm

re: #179 Varek Raith

Dear wingnuts,
Why are you so afraid do background checks?
You’ve got nothing to hide…
Right?

Probably the “slippery slope” bullshit the NRA’s been peddling to them for years. You know “Today it’s checks, tomorrow it’s confiscation.”

182 RadicalModerate  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:25:05pm

re: #7 Tigger2

The Secret Service could just call him a security risk and not let him in.

If Rep. Stockman wasn’t an elected Congressman, it’s a slam dunk that they would do so for him. His recent history of conspiracy theorizing goes way back.

[Link: www.dallasnews.com…]

In the June 1995 issue of Guns & Ammo magazine, Stockman asserted that the Clinton administration had initiated the April 1993 raid on the Branch Davidian compound near Waco — which left more than 80 cult members dead, many by suicide — to drum up support for an assault-weapons ban.

“An incident had to be encouraged to happen,” he wrote. “The Branch Davidians were executed … because they owned guns that the government did not wish them to have.”

The White House called the allegation absurd. And the timing was bad. The article came out three weeks after the Oklahoma City bombing. By then, he had already voiced sympathy for the militia movement.

Even GOP colleagues began to shun him.

His biggest backer now in Congress is Rep. Louie Gohmert, a Tyler tea partier with a similar gift for making opponents cringe. Gohmert has warned of an invasion of “terror babies” born to jihadists in the U.S. He blamed an assault on Judeo-Christian values for the recent massacre at a Colorado movie theater.

“The Louie Gohmerts — I want to be a team player with them,” Stockman said.

Read that bolded part again.
Stockman is a bonafide Timothy McVeigh fan.

183 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:25:32pm

TGDN is also swarmed with outright white supremacists.

184 thedopefishlives  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:26:22pm

Evening Lizardim.

185 Mattand  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:27:55pm

re: #108 dragonfire1981

One thing this thread has taught me: Ted Nugent is a REALLY crappy lyricist.

The Nuge manages the not-insignificant feat of making Spinal Tap lyrics, which were written as purposefully juvenile as possible for a fictional band, look like Shakespeare.

186 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:28:03pm

re: #183 Vicious Babushka

TGDN is also swarmed with outright white supremacists.

White supremacists are their own best argument on why white supremacy is bullshit.

187 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:28:22pm

re: #183 Vicious Babushka

TGDN is also swarmed with outright white supremacists.

I wish I hadn’t looked at that. Now I need some brain bleach.

Fortunately, I have it here. One hour and forty-five minutes of it.

188 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:28:51pm

re: #185 Mattand

I’m pretty sure the Nuge was one of the major inspirations for Spinal Tap in the first place.

189 Mattand  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:28:52pm

re: #170 Vicious Babushka

Yes, they are as dumb as you think.

I had a conversation with a TGDN wingnut who didn’t understand how it was possible that Obama won the election because Mitt Romney had so many more red spaces.

LOL.

Can you post a link to that? Not that I doubt you, but it does not seem possible.

190 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:29:29pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

I’m pretty sure the Nuge was one of the major inspirations for Spinal Tap in the first place.

Because his insanity is cranked all the way up to 11?

191 thedopefishlives  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:29:39pm

re: #189 Mattand

LOL.

Can you post a link to that? Not that I doubt you, but it does not seem possible.

It’s quite possible. I hang out on the JREF forums, and believe me, every time you think you’ve come up with an idiot-proof idea, God takes it as a challenge to make a bigger idiot.

192 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:30:09pm

re: #189 Mattand

LOL.

Can you post a link to that? Not that I doubt you, but it does not seem possible.

Population density is a well known liberal conspiracy.

“How can 50 people even live together in 1 square mile? Its unconceivable!”

193 engineer cat  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:32:00pm

re: #183 Vicious Babushka

TGDN is also swarmed with outright white supremacists.

see this is why i want to know if nugent thinks the “stormtroopers” are his friends or not

194 darthstar  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:32:11pm

Sad that this is almost necessary.

Image: 307907_10151392709915139_68852432_n.jpg

195 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:32:11pm

re: #189 Mattand

LOL.

Can you post a link to that? Not that I doubt you, but it does not seem possible.

196 Mattand  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:32:31pm

re: #192 Kragar (Antichrist )

Population density is a well known liberal conspiracy.

“How can 50 people even live together in 1 square mile? Its unconceivable!”

Heh, they’ve obviously never lived here in NJ. And South Jersey has got nothing on the density population of our northern brethren.

197 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:34:14pm

re: #195 Vicious Babushka

Bet if you showed him a map that included purple, it would blow him mind. “What, how can there be so many liberals in all those purely red districts?!”

198 darthstar  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:34:17pm

re: #195 Vicious Babushka

Wow…look how blue Alaska is.

199 Mattand  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:34:26pm

re: #195 Vicious Babushka

Thanks. I will now quietly weep in a corner as, once again, I realize I share a country with these nuts.

It probably didn’t dawn on Einstein here that cities reside in counties as well.

200 Gus  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:34:40pm

re: #194 darthstar

Sad that this is almost necessary.

Image: 307907_10151392709915139_68852432_n.jpg

Yeah. But judging by who’s been shot so far everyone might need a shirt like that.

201 The Mountain That Blogs  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:34:45pm

re: #195 Vicious Babushka

Obviously all counties are equal. Los Angeles County only has 105,000 times the population of Loving County, TX.

202 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:35:20pm

re: #195 Vicious Babushka

Its almost as if huge areas of America are wide open empty spaces where the dregs of humanity cling to ancient folklore and cattle humping.

203 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:35:36pm

re: #198 darthstar

Wow…look how blue Alaska is.

They had to deal with Palin.

204 jaunte  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:36:27pm

re: #195 Vicious Babushka

Too bad for him it’s not “one farm, one vote.”

205 Patricia Kayden  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:36:37pm

re: #1 erik_t

I agree. “Moderate Republicans” only have themselves to blame for allowing the crazies to take over their party. And exactly which Republicans are moderate? I don’t even think Christie is all that moderate when you consider his stance on unions and healthcare.

206 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:37:05pm
207 Mattand  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:37:16pm

re: #201 The Mountain That Blogs

Obviously all counties are equal. Los Angeles County only has 105,000 times the population of Loving County, TX.

There’s something like 1.2 million people in Philly proper. For the heck of it, I looked up the population of South Dakota.

About 500,000. In a state that’s nearly twice the size of PA.

When you substitute NY or LA numbers, the difference is even more unreal.

208 The Mountain That Blogs  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:37:34pm

Also, if you are going purely by size, those blue blocks in Alaska make it a whole lot closer than it looks. That big one in the middle of AK is slightly bigger than Montana.

209 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:38:02pm

And this sums up the Tea Baggers…

210 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:39:01pm

re: #206 Lidane

*facepalm* Please, oh please Lord, grant me my wish and have Bolling run an indie campaign this year. I don’t think this state can survive another Republican governor.

211 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:40:19pm

re: #181 Targetpractice

Probably the “slippery slope” bullshit the NRA’s been peddling to them for years. You know “Today it’s checks, tomorrow it’s confiscation.

Of course that’s exactly what’s being proposed in California and New York. In order to get cooperation the owners of previously registered assault weapons were told that their rifles would be grandfathered in. The NY governor has flat out said that confiscation “could be an option,” and California Democrats have now introduced a bill that will authorize confiscation of all the previously registered assault weapons.

It would be nice of liberal gun control advocates weren’t going out of their way to give credence to the NRA’s rhetoric, but as it stands now they’re actively legitimizing it.

212 The Mountain That Blogs  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:41:21pm

re: #207 Mattand

Brooklyn has more people than Utah, and about as many as Wyoming, both Dakotas, and Alaska combined.

213 Patricia Kayden  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:41:47pm

re: #206 Lidane

Why does a blue state like Virginia have a Republican governor anyways? That’s what you get when you vote for them.

214 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:42:03pm

re: #211 goddamnedfrank

Of course that’s exactly what’s being proposed in California and New York. In order to get cooperation the owners of previously registered assault weapons were told that their rifles would be grandfathered in. The NY governor has flat out said that confiscation “could be an option,” and California Democrats have now introduced a bill that will authorize confiscation of all the previously registered assault weapons.

It would be nice of liberal gun control advocates weren’t going out of their way to give credence to the NRA’s rhetoric, but as it stands now they’re actively legitimizing it.

So their desire to own any gun they can get their mitts on runs up against states rights. The unstoppable force against the immovable object.

215 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:42:14pm
216 Gus  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:45:11pm
217 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:51:12pm

re: #216 Gus

40+ years of openly appealing to the bigots, the idiots, and the mouth-breathers will do that to a party. They’ve focused on the South to the exclusion of all other demographic trends and it will bite them in the ass, especially if Texas ever turns blue.

218 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:51:48pm

re: #214 Targetpractice

So their desire to own any gun they can get their mitts on runs up against states rights. The unstoppable force against the immovable object.

Well that’s fatuous, it’s their desire to maintain ownership property previously purchased and specifically grandfathered in, not what they “can get their mitts on.” The state in this context is straight up lying to it’s citizens, having said register and you’ll be okay, then later pulling the rug out. Pretty much exactly what the NRA warned would happen.

219 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:52:22pm
220 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:52:36pm

re: #217 Lidane

40+ years of openly appealing to the bigots, the idiots, and the mouth-breathers will do that to a party. They’ve focused on the South to the exclusion of all other demographic trends and it will bite them in the ass, especially if Texas ever turns blue.

I can see the GOP becoming a regional party.

Southern, White, Evangelical. Diminishing in national influence with every passing election cycle.

221 jaunte  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:53:02pm

re: #216 Gus

“It is not a coincidence that the resurgence of nullification is happening while our first African American president is in office.”

222 engineer cat  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:53:09pm

“So many counties gophers and coyotes in America know the #constitution is better than the”

223 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:54:55pm

re: #204 jaunte

Too bad for him it’s not “one farm, one vote.”

Though it used to be if you go far enough back.

224 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:54:59pm

re: #218 goddamnedfrank

Well that’s fatuous, it’s their desire to maintain ownership property previously purchased and specifically grandfathered in, not what they “can get their mitts on.” The state in this context is straight up lying to it’s citizens, having said register and you’ll be okay, then later pulling the rug out. Pretty much exactly what the NRA warned would happen.

I was speaking more in a national context than a state one. The NRA has warned that such efforts are the purview of the federal government, not simply state governments. California is a state that’s been generally at the forefront of gun control efforts for decades. Remember that Reagan signed a law back in ‘68 that made public brandishing of firearms illegal in response to the Black Panthers carrying shotguns and rifles during demonstrations.

225 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:56:36pm

re: #220 Dr Lizardo

I can see the GOP becoming a regional party.

Southern, White, Evangelical. Diminishing in national influence with every passing election cycle.

They’re in very real danger of that happening. And the morons in charge think that they only need to change the messaging, not the message.

226 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:57:21pm

re: #204 jaunte

Too bad for him it’s not “one farm, one vote.”

Never mind that Bureau of Land Management thing.

227 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:58:14pm

re: #217 Lidane

40+ years of openly appealing to the bigots, the idiots, and the mouth-breathers will do that to a party. They’ve focused on the South to the exclusion of all other demographic trends and it will bite them in the ass, especially if Texas ever turns blue.

Change if to When. Texas is going to be competitive in the next election or the one after that. Dems may not win, but the Republicans will have to fight for it.

228 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 4:59:22pm

re: #227 anonymous gun expert

Change if to When. Texas is going to be competitive in the next election or the one after that. Dems may not win, but the Republicans will have to fight for it.

I would love to see this state turn blue again. It would be awesome.

229 thedopefishlives  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:00:02pm

re: #227 anonymous gun expert

Change if to When. Texas is going to be competitive in the next election or the one after that. Dems may not win, but the Republicans will have to fight for it.

No disrespect to you or any other Texas lizards, but I’ll believe it when I see it.

230 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:00:05pm

re: #224 Targetpractice

I was speaking more in a national context than a state one. The NRA has warned that such efforts are the purview of the federal government, not simply state governments. California is a state that’s been generally at the forefront of gun control efforts for decades. Remember that Reagan signed a law back in ‘68 that made public brandishing of firearms illegal in response to the Black Panthers carrying shotguns and rifles during demonstrations.

Right and I’m saying that the Democratic Party is actively legitimizing their rhetoric, and actually has been for years. If Feinstein thought she could push through a national confiscation policy, she would.

231 Jimmah  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:01:11pm

re: #215 Lidane

Hi there Lidane. Did you send a direct message to us on twitter earlier? It looked like it was from you but the content was blocked on my browser as suspicious/web forgery/phishing. I was worried in case you had been hacked or something.

232 jaunte  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:01:33pm

Attorney who witnessed Baltimore courthouse shooting is getting trolled by gun nuts.

Correction, Delaware shooting, attorney from Baltimore.

233 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:02:19pm

re: #229 Ghost of a Dopefish

No disrespect to you or any other Texas lizards, but I’ll believe it when I see it.

My point is that Republicans are going to have to spend resources defending Texas in the next national election. This is huge.

234 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:02:42pm

re: #225 Lidane

They’re in very real danger of that happening. And the morons in charge think that they only need to change the messaging, not the message.

That process will continue until either: 1) the hard right is marginalized or neutralized or: 2) the GOP becomes so utterly ineffectual beyond its regional base in the Deep South and some parts of the Intermountain West that they collectively wake up and say, “Crap. This ain’t working no more.”

235 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:03:01pm

re: #230 goddamnedfrank

Right and I’m saying that the Democratic Party is actively legitimizing their rhetoric, and actually has been for years. If Feinstein thought she could push through a national confiscation policy, she would.

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But she can’t and the odds of it happening are long, if not impossible. Hell, just implementing universal background checks is becoming a fight, despite having support in the 80-90% range for most polls. Confiscation may be a long-term goal, but it’s a term measured in decades, not years and certainly not anything shorter.

236 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:05:01pm

re: #233 anonymous gun expert

My point is that Republicans are going to have to spend resources defending Texas in the next national election. This is huge.

When Texas becomes a battleground state, the GOP is going to get nervous. If (or when) they lose Texas, that will be the moment of truth for the conservative movement.

237 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:08:45pm

re: #236 Dr Lizardo

When Texas becomes a battleground state, the GOP is going to get nervous. If (or when) they lose Texas, that will be the moment of truth for the conservative movement.

Don’t the cowboys and cowgirls always win and then ride off into the sunset?

238 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:10:37pm

re: #229 Ghost of a Dopefish

No disrespect to you or any other Texas lizards, but I’ll believe it when I see it.

I live here and I’d have to agree. There are plenty of knuckle-dragging morons in this state. Turning Texas blue won’t be easy.

Yes, the major areas, like Dallas, Houston, Austin, and San Antonio all went for Obama in the last election, but some of them were squeakers at best. Obama won Harris County, where Houston is, by 0.1%, and the only reason he won the Dallas area was because he won in Dallas County by 15%. The rest of the DFW area was heavily for Romney, in some cases by an almost 2-to-1 margin.

It’s going to take a lot more than a single election cycle for Texas to turn blue again.

239 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:11:44pm

re: #231 Jimmah

Hi there Lidane. Did you send a direct message to us on twitter earlier? It looked like it was from you but the content was blocked on my browser as suspicious/web forgery/phishing. I was worried in case you had been hacked or something.

No, I didn’t send any DM’s. It was a phishing hack. Ignore it and delete it and DO NOT click on any links.

I’ve already changed the passwords and everything for Twitter. Hopefully it won’t happen again anytime soon.

240 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:12:20pm

re: #237 b_sharp

Don’t the cowboys and cowgirls always win and then ride off into the sunset?

Heh. Reality is a harsh mistress.

I think when (and I do think it’s likely over the next two election cycles) the GOP and the TP/Cons lose Texas, that’s the end of the modern conservative movement. The GOP as a national party really has no long-term prospects without Texas. They’ll have to cut the TP/Cons loose.

The freakout at that moment will be epic.

241 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:13:30pm

re: #237 b_sharp

Don’t the cowboys and cowgirls always win and then ride off into the sunset?

Looks more like this…

242 HoosierHoops  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:13:56pm

re: #238 Lidane

Agreed.. Texas isn’t turning blue in the least..Thank the Lord for Austin!

243 erik_t  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:14:58pm

re: #240 Dr Lizardo

The freakout at that moment will be epic.

I’d call it a come-to-Jesus moment, but I think they’re already trying that…

244 Stanley Sea  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:16:24pm

re: #219 Lidane

Hey, you’ve probably heard this already - I’ve been away all day, but your twitter was hacked if that’s possible? I got a dm from you early this a.m. it was off the wall, I knew it wasn’t real & didn’t open. FYIIIIIII

245 Jimmah  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:17:00pm

re: #239 Lidane

No, I didn’t send any DM’s. It was a phishing hack.

Cheers. That’s what I thought it must be. Cripes.

246 thedopefishlives  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:17:00pm

re: #244 Skeetghazi

Hey, you’ve probably heard this already - I’ve been away all day, but your twitter was hacked if that’s possible? I got a dm from you early this a.m. it was off the wall, I knew it wasn’t real & didn’t open. FYIIIIIII

See re: #239 Lidane.

247 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:17:48pm

re: #244 Skeetghazi

Hey, you’ve probably heard this already - I’ve been away all day, but your twitter was hacked if that’s possible? I got a dm from you early this a.m. it was off the wall, I knew it wasn’t real & didn’t open. FYIIIIIII

She knows. She’s done her due diligence.

(I love that phrase)

248 jaunte  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:18:00pm

Rick Perry’s out in California, trying to lure a few businesses to relocate to Texas.
[Link: www.contracostatimes.com…]

Maybe he’ll get a call center.

249 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:19:04pm

re: #248 jaunte

Rick Perry’s out in California, trying to lure a few businesses to relocate to Texas.
[Link: www.contracostatimes.com…]

Maybe he’ll get a call center.

I thought they used prayer?

250 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:19:06pm

re: #245 Jimmah

Cheers. That’s what I thought it must be. Cripes.

Yep. Not only did I get a DM from myself, but I got a few dozen DM’s from other people telling me about vicious rumors about myself. That’s a known scam.

251 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:19:41pm

re: #243 erik_t

I’d call it a come-to-Jesus moment, but I think they’re already trying that…

I can’t help but wonder what the TP/Cons movement types will do once they realize their glorious dream has come to an end?

I think that perhaps they’ll go back to where they were before the era of the Moral Majority and whatnot; before they started getting so heavily involved in politics.

They’ll retreat from the secular world back into their spiritual/religious world and eschew politics to a large extent. Well, I can dream, can’t I?

252 Stanley Sea  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:19:56pm

re: #239 Lidane

took me too long to type my post. Jimmah and you got it first.

253 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:20:04pm

re: #248 jaunte

Rick Perry’s out in California, trying to lure a few businesses to relocate to Texas.
[Link: www.contracostatimes.com…]

Maybe he’ll get a call center.

There was an editorial the other day that rightly described Perry’s ad campaign as a “desperate cry for help.” That the state is in such dire circumstances that they can only hope to lure businesses to their state rather than create any new ones.

254 b_sharp  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:20:25pm

re: #252 Skeetghazi

took me too long to type my post. Jimmah and you got it first.

Next time use two hands.

255 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:21:34pm

re: #248 jaunte

Rick Perry’s out in California, trying to lure a few businesses to relocate to Texas.
[Link: www.contracostatimes.com…]

Maybe he’ll get a call center.

Perry luring Tea Baggers out of CA? Hoping to raise the average IQs in both states?

256 Jimmah  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:21:42pm

re: #244 Skeetghazi

Hey, you’ve probably heard this already - I’ve been away all day, but your twitter was hacked if that’s possible? I got a dm from you early this a.m. it was off the wall, I knew it wasn’t real & didn’t open. FYIIIIIII

I said to ice that I didn’t think it was from Lidane at all but then I clicked on it anyway…doh.

257 Stanley Sea  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:22:16pm

re: #250 Lidane

Yep. Not only did I get a DM from myself, but I got a few dozen DM’s from other people telling me about vicious rumors about myself. That’s a known scam.

You are NAKED on the internet!! Click here NOW to find out.

Oh those young teens are freaking.

258 jaunte  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:22:19pm

re: #253 Targetpractice

There was an editorial the other day that rightly described Perry’s ad campaign as a “desperate cry for help.” That the state is in such dire circumstances that they can only hope to lure businesses to their state rather than create any new ones.

It’s Perry’s biggest Idea.

259 jaunte  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:22:34pm
260 Stanley Sea  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:23:04pm

re: #254 b_sharp

Next time use two hands.

2 phone calls and dinner on the grill? I’m doing fine!

261 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:23:32pm

re: #259 jaunte

WIN.

262 HoosierHoops  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:23:35pm

re: #247 b_sharp

She knows. She’s done her due diligence.

(I love that phrase)

At work that always meant you were about to get a big ugly project nobody else wants. By the end, you will hate it will all your heart.. But at least you did your ‘Due diligence’ :)

263 EPR-radar  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:23:43pm

re: #1 erik_t

Moderate whatnows?

Seriously, someone point me towards one of these creatures. I’m writing a class paper on cryptozoology.

The title could be “Moderates in the Mist”.

264 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:24:07pm

re: #255 Kragar (Antichrist )

Perry luring Tea Baggers out of CA? Hoping to raise the average IQs in both states?

He’s trying to lure companies away from Cali basically by boasting about Texas’ vast reserves of uneducated, unskilled labor.

265 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:26:18pm

re: #264 Targetpractice

He’s trying to lure companies away from Cali basically by boasting about Texas’ vast reserves of uneducated, unskilled labor.

“Join us in our exciting new explorations of how to fuck the poor.”

266 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:27:31pm

re: #264 Targetpractice

He’s trying to lure companies away from Cali basically by boasting about Texas’ vast reserves of uneducated, unskilled labor.

So his marketing point is that Texas is filled with low-wage imbeciles?

If I were a Texan, I’d be pissed.

267 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:28:27pm

re: #265 Kragar (Antichrist )

“Join us in our exciting new explorations of how to fuck the poor.”

Would it be ironic that the very workers that Perry is luring to Texas would help the Democrats defeat the Republicans in the next election? The cheery on top would be if Perry got full credit for this.

268 Gus  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:29:19pm
269 jaunte  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:29:53pm

re: #266 Dr Lizardo

So his marketing point is that Texas is filled with low-wage imbeciles?

If I were a Texan, I’d be pissed.

“Yew wanna build a leaky bitumen pipeline acrost our ranches, then refine and sell it off overseas, while we take the risk of polluting our drinkin’ water? Come on down!”

270 Kragar (Antichrist )  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:30:20pm

“And don’t worry, if your business is hurt by drought or burns down, we have some of the best prayer rallies in the United States ready to call down the power of Jesus to help you.”

271 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:31:18pm

re: #268 Gus

She’s probably correct. In the College of Cardinals, I believe the youngest member is 65 or so.

Of course, technically, the Pope doesn’t need to be drawn from the College of Cardinals. That would be some major “thinking outside the box”, which I must admit, I really don’t see happening.

272 Stanley Sea  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:31:41pm

I’m still puking that Ted Fucking Nugent will be at the State of the Union.

It’s an embarrassment.

273 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:31:44pm

re: #264 Targetpractice

He’s trying to lure companies away from Cali basically by boasting about Texas’ vast reserves of uneducated, unskilled labor and the fact that they can’t unionize.

Don’t forget— Texas is a “right to work” state. Unions are teh debil, after all.

274 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:32:01pm

re: #266 Dr Lizardo

So his marketing point is that Texas is filled with low-wage imbeciles?

If I were a Texan, I’d be pissed.

Nah, it’s the usual stuff. You know, low taxes (high fees on the poor), “predictable” regulations (i.e. none), “fair” legal system (if your net worth is five figures or above), and a “skilled” workforce (in a state that ranks dead last in percentage of population with high school diplomas).

275 wrenchwench  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:32:51pm

Hey Lidane, I think your Twitter account got hacked!!!!

////

It’s happened before to two or three others that I follow. I get so few DMs I assume they aren’t real until proven otherwise.

276 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:33:06pm

re: #269 jaunte

“Yew wanna build a leaky bitumen pipeline acrost our ranches, then refine and sell it off overseas, while we take the risk of polluting our drinkin’ water? Come on down!”

Horrible. I briefly entertained the notion of moving to Texas (the Houston area) back when I was still married to my ex.

Her response was an unequivocal “F**k you”.

277 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:34:07pm

re: #274 Targetpractice

Nah, it’s the usual stuff. You know, low taxes (high fees on the poor), “predictable” regulations (i.e. none), “fair” legal system (if your net worth is five figures or above), and a “skilled” workforce (in a state that ranks dead last in percentage of population with high school diplomas).

Sounds like a veritable Randian paradise.

278 Targetpractice  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:34:13pm

re: #269 jaunte

“Yew wanna build a leaky bitumen pipeline acrost our ranches, then refine and sell it off overseas, while we take the risk of polluting our drinkin’ water? Come on down!”

Considering Obama’s not running for reelection and Kerry’s not SecState, I get the impression that Keystone XL is all but dead.

279 Lidane  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:34:38pm

re: #276 Dr Lizardo

Her response was an unequivocal “F**k you”.

Good answer. I grew up in Houston and you couldn’t pay me enough to get me to move back.

Austin is pretty much my last stand here in Texas. Either I live and work here, or I find work out of state. Simple as that.

280 jaunte  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:35:47pm

re: #278 Targetpractice

I hope so; there’s a lot of money behind it though.

281 engineer cat  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 5:58:19pm

re: #271 Dr Lizardo

She’s probably correct. In the College of Cardinals, I believe the youngest member is 65 or so.

Of course, technically, the Pope doesn’t need to be drawn from the College of Cardinals. That would be some major “thinking outside the box”, which I must admit, I really don’t see happening.

iirc wojtyla was younger

282 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:06:44pm

re: #281 engineer cat

iirc wojtyla was younger

Yes, Wojtyla was younger, in his early 50s.

There’s an old saying - After a fat Pope, a lean one, and after a lean Pope, a fat one.

They may be thinking of someone younger who can stay in the office longer than one decade. If they can find someone in his early 50s, like Wojtyla, then they’d be better off.

I’m not a Catholic myself, but someone reformist-minded and diplomatic would be a nice choice. I look at the CoC and see quite a few reactionaries, which would be a major step backwards.

They also need to find someone who can deal appropriately with the ongoing pedo scandal(s) around the world. And by appropriately, I mean someone who can say, “We fucked up!” and take the proper measures to ensure it doesn’t happen again.

What I’d really like to see? A Jesuit Pope. Oh yeah, that’d be freakin’ sweet!

283 simoom  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:07:41pm

2007:
[Link: www.rollingstone.com…]

Renegade right-winger Ted Nugent recently went on a vicious onstage rant in which he threatened the lives of Democratic presidential candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Decked out in full-on camouflage hunting gear, Nugent wielded two machine guns while raging, “Obama, he’s a piece of shit. I told him to suck on my machine gun. Hey Hillary,” he continued. “You might want to ride one of these into the sunset, you worthless bitch.” Nugent summed up his eloquent speech by screaming “freedom!”

This isn’t the first time Nugent has been caught spewing hatred. Last January, the guitarist caused a scandal for Republican Texas governor Rick Perry when he wore a Confederate flag shirt and insulted immigrants at Perry’s inauguration event.

Amazing how Boehner gets away with allowing this level of disrespect from his caucus, to the PoTUS, at the SoTU.

284 palomino  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:25:17pm

re: #195 Vicious Babushka

Unbelievable. As if square miles of land trumped actual number of people who live and vote in a given area. This is really the rural/urban divide being expressed by the GOP, in a defensive and paranoid way since rural voters (heavily Republican) cringe as they see that the nation continues to become more urban.

I remember George Will pulling out the same ludicrous argument in 2000, in order to make W’s victory seem more legitimate. Bush may not have won the popular vote, but Will made the case that he won the “total land mass” and “number of counties” vote…as if those mean anything.

Winning large land mass (but small people mass) counties somehow gives the land, the dirt, and the farm animals that roam over them special significance. At least in a tea partier’s mind.

285 palomino  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:33:51pm

re: #227 anonymous gun expert

Change if to When. Texas is going to be competitive in the next election or the one after that. Dems may not win, but the Republicans will have to fight for it.

TX and CA have similar demographics in terms of ethnicity, large cities and overall large populations. So one would think that Dems might be competitive now in the Lone Star State.

The big reason TX is still pretty solid red and CA solid blue is the white vote, not that of minorities. In CA, white voters split 50-50 between the two parties (which is actually a good result for the Dems, as the national white vote tends to be around 55% GOP.) But in TX, the white vote goes about 75% GOP, which means the minority vote is not enough to help Dems win statewide contests.
Eventually the accelerated demographic changes will catch up and make TX at least competitive, but I’m not sure it will occur that fast. Might take several more decades.

286 labman57  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:37:28pm

“Tea party patriot” — a 21st century oxymoron.

With any luck, Nugent’s diatribe regarding his personal future in the event of Obama’s relection will become a self-fulfilling prophesy.

287 labman57  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:37:50pm

“Tea party patriot” — a 21st century oxymoron.

With any luck, Nugent’s diatribe regarding his personal future in the event of Obama’s relection will become a self-fulfilling prophesy.

288 EPR-radar  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:53:21pm

re: #5 Amory Blaine

Ted Nugent is the republican party.

Nugent-whoever 2016.

289 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 7:04:40pm

re: #166 Vicious Babushka

DERP

Yep, ‘cause there is no fore warning of a car coming at you at 60 mph. Well I guess maybe if it was an electric car.

290 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 8:38:06pm
291 jaunte  Mon, Feb 11, 2013 9:08:56pm

re: #250 Lidane

Yep. Not only did I get a DM from myself, but I got a few dozen DM’s from other people telling me about vicious rumors about myself. That’s a known scam.

I saw that and figured if it was real someone couldn’t resist telling me directly.

292 Robur  Tue, Feb 12, 2013 7:03:11am

re: #87 darthstar

darthstar..Yes I do see what your saying,I used to blog on NewsVine and they expect everyone to act as if their at a church social so the reality of actual conversation gets muddled at times. I realize of course of the mix of ideologies here BUT I have always been one to show you exactly where I stand on all issues that way there is no confusion and if there is I’m not the one confused.


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