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1 simoom  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 6:21:58pm

Nina Simone / Sinnerman

2 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 6:23:38pm

very cool

3 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 6:24:48pm

I’m off to audiobook land now.

Have a great evening all!

4 engineer cat  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 6:53:55pm

Acoustic Jam

spread it!

5 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 6:55:32pm

Just a bit of humor for anyone who’s ever played D&D… Browser Alignments ;)

Image: 404559-WXSTUYB.jpg

6 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 7:04:56pm

re: #5 William Barnett-Lewis

Just a bit of humor for anyone who’s ever played D&D… Browser Alignments ;)

Image: 404559-WXSTUYB.jpg

Dang, I gotta be Netscape?!

7 thedopefishlives  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 7:13:16pm

Evening Lizardim.

8 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 7:14:43pm

re: #7 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim.

Good evening, oh hungry-every-3rd-thought piscatoid.

9 thedopefishlives  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 7:15:43pm

re: #5 William Barnett-Lewis

Just a bit of humor for anyone who’s ever played D&D… Browser Alignments ;)

Image: 404559-WXSTUYB.jpg

While Firefox represents my chosen alignment, Chrome’s subtext made me laugh.

10 Stanley Sea  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 7:23:08pm

re: #7 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim.

Heeeey

11 Stanley Sea  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 7:42:16pm

Where is everyone?

I got hired, full time jobber again.

yay

12 thedopefishlives  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 7:43:18pm

re: #11 Skeetghazi

Where is everyone?

I got hired, full time jobber again.

yay

Congratulations.

It appears that the Lizardim have retreated to their warm rocks for the evening.

13 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 7:43:27pm

re: #11 Skeetghazi

Where is everyone?

I got hired, full time jobber again.

yay

Gratz

14 Stanley Sea  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 7:44:02pm

re: #12 thedopefishlives

Congratulations.

It appears that the Lizardim have retreated to their warm rocks for the evening.

Thanks Fish! Hope all’s well on your end.

15 klys  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 7:44:17pm

re: #11 Skeetghazi

Where is everyone?

I got hired, full time jobber again.

yay

Congrats!

I believe, it being the Feast Day of Chocolate, that most people might be enjoying a life outside the keyboard for the evening.

But I’m still here!

16 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 7:45:38pm

re: #11 Skeetghazi

Where is everyone?

I got hired, full time jobber again.

yay

Good times.

I’ve been busy trying to get somewhere in my Minecraft game again. Started a new world and quickly remembering just how much work goes into building the most basic items.

17 thedopefishlives  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 7:45:58pm

re: #14 Skeetghazi

Thanks Fish! Hope all’s well on your end.

Doing well enough. Did you ever settle on whether or not to adopt your feline overlord?

18 Stanley Sea  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 7:46:30pm

re: #15 klys

Congrats!

I believe, it being the Feast Day of Chocolate, that most people might be enjoying a life outside the keyboard for the evening.

But I’m still here!

I ate a delicious dove bar last night, in anticipation I guess .

19 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 7:47:35pm

re: #11 Skeetghazi

Where is everyone?

I got hired, full time jobber again.

yay

Congratulaions. Traveling in the Low WiFi Zone, here.

20 Stanley Sea  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 7:48:03pm

Thanks sweet peeps. It’s all going to be normal again!

21 engineer cat  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 7:49:24pm

i’m in a better mood since i managed to get transferred from a group that practices agile/scrum evangelical style to one that takes a unitarian attitude

22 thedopefishlives  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 7:51:22pm

re: #21 engineer cat

i’m in a better mood since i managed to get transferred from a group that practices agile/scrum evangelical style to one that takes a unitarian attitude

Agile/scrum is a great thing, if your project fits the profile. The problem our current client is having is, they’re trying to shoehorn all of their current projects into Agile projects, and some of them, it just ain’t working.

23 engineer cat  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 7:52:05pm

re: #20 Skeetghazi

Thanks sweet peeps. It’s all going to be normal again!

regratulations! what sort of jobbing is it if i may be so forward as to enquire

24 engineer cat  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 7:54:44pm

re: #22 thedopefishlives

Agile/scrum is a great thing, if your project fits the profile. The problem our current client is having is, they’re trying to shoehorn all of their current projects into Agile projects, and some of them, it just ain’t working.

ah, another victim. i would like to think we have reached peak agile, and that soon yet another fashionable management craze will bite the dust

25 thedopefishlives  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 7:57:51pm

re: #24 engineer cat

ah, another victim. i would like to think we have reached peak agile, and that soon yet another fashionable management craze will bite the dust

One can only hope. But then the next one will start. I wonder what it’ll be.

26 Amory Blaine  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 7:59:01pm

Ultrasound bill a ‘priority’ for anti-abortion lawmakers

The Wisconsin Capitol is a friendly place right now for those who oppose abortion.

That’s the message Wisconsin Right to Life Legislative Conference attendees repeatedly heard Tuesday from the state’s top two Republican lawmakers, Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald and Assembly Speaker Robin Vos.

“We are in a very good place in Wisconsin,” Vos said. “We have a pro-life Legislature, pro-life governor in Scott Walker and a pro-life attorney general (J.B. Van Hollen). We can all wrap our arms around this agenda.”

And it sounds like the first bill to get a warm reception from Republicans will be what’s being dubbed the “Woman’s Right to Know her Unborn Child Act,” also being termed the “ultrasound bill” by pro-choice forces.

The bill would require a woman seeking an abortion to receive an ultrasound and be informed of what is visible on the monitoring screen — although the woman would not be forced to look at the image.

“This bill is a priority,” Fitzgerald said. “It is long overdue.”

27 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:02:33pm

re: #26 Amory Blaine

Ultrasound bill a ‘priority’ for anti-abortion lawmakers

“Woman’s Right to Know her Unborn Child Act.” I see the GOP’s engaging in newspeak more and more.

28 Amory Blaine  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:06:44pm

These republicans have no shame. Here’s Senator Ron Johnson at a republican event sharing a stage with a Wisconsin Supreme Court justice:

Today, United Wisconsin calls on Supreme Court Justice Patience Roggensack to denounce inflammatory remarks made by Senator Ron Johnson at a Jefferson County Republican Party Lincoln Day Dinner, where the two were both among the featured speakers.

Johnson’s speech, riddled with extreme partisan rhetoric, went as far as calling political opponents “Marxists” and referring to their positions as a “cavity [that] is turning into an abscess that’s now infecting the body.” Johnson told his audience, “We are up against a strategy that is taking place by liberals, progressives, Democrats, whatever they call themselves nowadays, Socialists, Marxists.”

Sharing the stage with Johnson was incumbent Supreme Court Justice Patience Roggensack, who is currently seeking another ten-year term on the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

29 Mich-again  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:09:17pm

re: #26 Amory Blaine

Ultrasound bill a ‘priority’ for anti-abortion lawmakers

With a laser-like focus on jobs.

30 Stanley Sea  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:12:43pm

re: #23 engineer cat

regratulations! what sort of jobbing is it if i may be so forward as to enquire

Construction office work. Although now I’m scheduling. High activity, high stress, but it’s a challenge which is good.

31 Mich-again  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:16:40pm

re: #30 Skeetghazi

What general area are you in? just wondering..

32 Stanley Sea  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:19:39pm

re: #31 Mich-again

What general area are you in? just wondering..

No prob. GC - we bid drywall, exterior, ceiling, flooring, work with designers on finishes. Whatever except electrical & plumbing.

33 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:19:59pm

re: #11 Skeetghazi

Where is everyone?

I got hired, full time jobber again.

yay

Congrats! Since you’re no longer a 47%-er leech on the body politic you are now expected to vote GOP.
;) //

34 Stanley Sea  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:20:35pm

re: #33 Feline Fearless Leader

Congrats! Since you’re no longer a 47%-er leech on the body politic you are now expected to vote GOP.
;) //

heh, I’m not making 100K

35 Thundermother(it will turn your head around)  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:21:05pm

re: #28 Amory Blaine

Yep. Roggensack ads already rolling locally here up north. I’m seeing pushback on GoP policies on the local interweb boards. Fuck these guys.

36 Achilles Tang  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:21:49pm

I am so tired of hearing all evening about a cruise ship that had problems inconveniencing and delaying a bunch of people for two or three days.

Wimps and a slow news day I suppose. Does anyone want to hear my travel stories over the past 50 years or so? Don’t ask. I don’t have the patience for such trivia.

37 Stanley Sea  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:21:57pm

Thanks for the good wishes LGF. Signing off. Laundry ugh.

38 engineer cat  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:22:04pm

i’m relaxing at the chinese all-you-can-eat. my xxx wife refused to ever set foot in here, mostly because of the garish signage, but i find it quite congenial, and a real pleasure to watch the united nations of clientele rub shoulders

39 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:23:02pm

re: #36 Achilles Tang

I am so tired of hearing all evening about a cruise ship that had problems inconveniencing and delaying a bunch of people for two or three days.

Wimps and a slow news day I suppose. Does anyone want to hear my travel stories over the past 50 years or so? Don’t ask. I don’t have the patience for such trivia.

But they’ve brought back a lovely wine with them! Captain Rum approves.
:D

40 Achilles Tang  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:27:13pm

re: #21 engineer cat

i’m in a better mood since i managed to get transferred from a group that practices agile/scrum evangelical style to one that takes a unitarian attitude

I love it when I have to google a post to understand what the hell it is about.

41 Lidane  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:28:04pm

re: #5 William Barnett-Lewis

Just a bit of humor for anyone who’s ever played D&D… Browser Alignments ;)

Image: 404559-WXSTUYB.jpg

Ha! My alignment and my browser match. Awesome.

42 prairiefire  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:29:09pm

re: #22 thedopefishlives

Agile/scrum is a great thing, if your project fits the profile. The problem our current client is having is, they’re trying to shoehorn all of their current projects into Agile projects, and some of them, it just ain’t working.

Go Vanilla!

43 prairiefire  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:30:43pm

re: #38 engineer cat

i’m relaxing at the chinese all-you-can-eat. my xxx wife refused to ever set foot in here, mostly because of the garish signage, but i find it quite congenial, and a real pleasure to watch the united nations of clientele rub shoulders

You need to meet more liberal women.

44 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:33:52pm

re: #43 prairiefire

You need to meet more liberal women.

Liberalism hasn’t anything to do with it. Finding signage to be tacky and off-putting knows no party.

45 makeitstop  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:36:10pm

re: #11 Skeetghazi

Where is everyone?

I got hired, full time jobber again.

yay

Congrats!

46 Achilles Tang  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:36:40pm

Where is everyone? Valentine day dinner should be over by now for most of the country. What else is there to do?

47 engineer cat  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:36:51pm

re: #43 prairiefire

You need to meet more liberal women.

are you volunteering?

48 Amory Blaine  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:37:00pm

re: #41 Lidane

Ha! My alignment and my browser match. Awesome.

Quick!! Go buy a lottery ticket!!!
/

49 prairiefire  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:37:17pm

re: #44 Dark_Falcon

Liberalism hasn’t anything to do with it. Finding signage to be tacky and off-putting knows no party.

I was emphasizing the “congenial” part.

50 klys  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:37:27pm

re: #46 Achilles Tang

Where is everyone? Valentine day dinner should be over by now for most of the country. What else is there to do?

I will add a / tag to that for you.

51 engineer cat  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:37:59pm

re: #44 Dark_Falcon

Liberalism hasn’t anything to do with it. Finding signage to be tacky and off-putting knows no party.

it is one tacky-ass sign

52 prairiefire  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:38:44pm

re: #47 engineer cat

are you volunteering?

You spoke “Goodnight Moon” in binary code. Take that and go forth! (I’m too old and married.)

53 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:40:25pm

re: #46 Achilles Tang

Where is everyone? Valentine day dinner should be over by now for most of the country. What else is there to do?

Playing Skyrim and organizing some 40k stuff I’m going to be selling off in a few weeks.

54 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:40:28pm

May I mention that I really hate being followed around from website to website by that damned ad for zombie dummies that bleed when shot? I blame LGF.

55 Achilles Tang  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:40:52pm

re: #50 klys

I will add a / tag to that for you.

Consider all my posts to have a silent / unless otherwise obviously not.

56 klys  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:41:53pm

re: #55 Achilles Tang

Consider all my posts to have a silent / unless otherwise obviously not.

It did seem a little too obvious…

57 Gus  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:44:25pm

Sorry for the inconvenience ye old Carnival Triumph passengers. But I just spent most of the day freezing my ass off with a healing broken bone hobbling about here and there. I really could fucking care less about your first world problems. Over 18,000 children under the age of 11 died today from curable diseases. Don’t care about your sorry ass “problems.”

58 engineer cat  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:44:40pm

re: #52 prairiefire

You spoke “Goodnight Moon” in binary code. Take that and go forth! (I’m too old and married.)

:-) :-)

i ain’t so young m’self, but my social life is showing signs of health

59 prairiefire  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:46:04pm

re: #58 engineer cat

:-) :-)

i ain’t so young m’self, but my social life is showing signs of health

God bless and a big smooch. Go get ‘em.

60 Mich-again  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:46:43pm

re: #57 Gus

Sorry for the inconvenience ye old Carnival Triumph passengers. But I just spent most of the day freezing my ass off with a healing broken bone hobbling about here and there. I really could fucking care less about your first world problems. Over 18,000 children under the age of 11 died today from curable diseases. Don’t care about your sorry ass “problems.”

Yeah but forget about 5 days adrift at sea crapping in plastic bags and eating scraps.. they dumped them off in Mobile Alabama! Will their hell never end!

61 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:48:10pm

Elizabeth Warren presses financial regulators: Why no trials for Wall Street?

At a Senate Banking Committee hearing on Thursday, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) asked the nation’s top financial regulators why Wall Street firms who broke the law were not taken to trial.

“We face some very special issues with big financial institutions,” she said. “If they can break the law and drag in billions and billions in profits, and then turn around and settle — paying out of those profits — they don’t have much incentive to follow the law. It is also the case that every time there is a settlement and not a trial, we didn’t have those days and days and days of testimony about what those financial institutions had been up to.”

Warren asked how tough the financial regulators were and questioned them about the last time a major Wall Street firm had been put on trial.

Rich people on trial? What is this? Commie Russia?
///

62 Gus  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:48:15pm

re: #60 Mich-again

Yeah but forget about 5 days adrift at sea crapping in plastic bags and eating scraps.. they dumped them off in Mobile Alabama! Will their hell never end!

Such suffering.

63 calochortus  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:49:19pm

re: #57 Gus

It’s a slow news day and now we’re getting actual pictures of the horror, so we have to cover it in detail. I’m sure it is unpleasant, but yeah, not the most horrible thing that ever happened.

64 Gus  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:52:07pm

re: #63 calochortus

It’s a slow news day and now we’re getting actual pictures of the horror, so we have to cover it in detail. I’m sure it is unpleasant, but yeah, not the most horrible thing that ever happened.

There is no hopelessness here.

65 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:53:20pm

The Carnival thing was ridiculous. I know those people had a shitty time (*rimshot*) but the whole thing seems like fodder for stand-up comedians to me. A bunch of tourists go on some dumb cruise, and suddenly it turns into something designed by Satan himself - Fire! darkness! Poop flowing down the walls! DMV lines just to get something to eat! The boat smells! Welcome to the 17th century kids, how do you think your ancestors got here? LOL… High seas and a lot of puking would have capped it off. Or, maybe after all that, Carnival could have distributed oars and put a press gang on rudder duty to try and get home. Rig sails out of sheets, even.

Matt Damon told me how many people don’t have basic sanitation just the other day. The worst fallout from this is that poor Carnival will have to start offering low-cost cruises for drunk frat boys, or maybe mass suicide groups, promising a one-way trip with a long jump off the boat at the end for low, low prices…

Sorry, but the news bored me to death today with this stupid story.

66 calochortus  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:54:15pm

re: #64 Gus

There is no hopelessness here.

Haven’t you been listing to the wingnuts lately? //

67 Achilles Tang  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:54:22pm

re: #61 Kragar (Antichrist )

Elizabeth Warren presses financial regulators: Why no trials for Wall Street?

Rich people on trial? What is this? Commie Russia?
///

Maybe it’s because we had more important issues to follow up forever, like Benghazi?/

68 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:55:30pm

re: #61 Kragar (Antichrist )

Elizabeth Warren presses financial regulators: Why no trials for Wall Street?

Rich people on trial? What is this? Commie Russia?
///

Simple answer in two parts, Liz:

1. Because your party, like mine, does not bite its paymaster. Wall Street pays the campaign bills that are incurred keeping politicians in power.

But primarily,

2. Because ‘Too Big to Fail’ is also ‘Too Big to Jail.’ You can’t topple the top leadership of that many large banks without one or more of them falling apart, and the fall of such a bank tips the economy back into recession. Most people, angry about the banks though they are, would rather let crooks get away with it than risk losing their jobs in a recession. It’s possible to call that cowardly, but it’s a choice, and it’s the choice the public tends to make.

69 calochortus  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:56:15pm

re: #67 Achilles Tang

I actually heard some congressman on The Newshour this afternoon complaining that the State of the Union address was a disappointment because Obama didn’t mention Bengazi.

70 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:56:28pm

re: #65 Pawn of the Oppressor

The Carnival thing was ridiculous. I know those people had a shitty time (*rimshot*) but the whole thing seems like fodder for stand-up comedians to me. A bunch of tourists go on some dumb cruise, and suddenly it turns into something designed by Satan himself - Fire! darkness! Poop flowing down the walls! DMV lines just to get something to eat! The boat smells! Welcome to the 17th century kids, how do you think your ancestors got here? LOL… High seas and a lot of puking would have capped it off. Or, maybe after all that, Carnival could have distributed oars and put a press gang on rudder duty to try and get home. Rig sails out of sheets, even.

Matt Damon told me how many people don’t have basic sanitation just the other day. The worst fallout from this is that poor Carnival will have to start offering low-cost cruises for drunk frat boys, or maybe mass suicide groups, promising a one-way trip with a long jump off the boat at the end for low, low prices…

Sorry, but the news bored me to death today with this stupid story.

Like I was saying earlier today, the only way to cap off this story is to hear Carnival, in order to recap the costs of repairs and sanitation that are no doubt going to be incurred just to make the ship seaworthy again, trying to send bills to passengers for damage to their rooms. You just know there’s some exec at Carnival thinking “There’s no way I’m giving up my plans for a new yacht just to cover these costs.”

71 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:57:45pm

re: #68 Dark_Falcon

Which is why a major bank spent years laundering money for the drug cartels, making a nice profit and when they got busted, paid the equivalent of a months pay as a fine and no one went to jail.

HOORAY BUSINESS!

72 Mich-again  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:57:50pm

re: #65 Pawn of the Oppressor

Its probably a good thing they don’t let passengers bring their firearms onto cruise ships.

73 Gus  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:58:36pm

re: #66 calochortus

Haven’t you been listing to the wingnuts lately? //

Yes. Apparently. Communism. Or something or another. Twitter gulags. A daunting existence. Must be quite the challenge.

74 Achilles Tang  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 8:58:41pm

re: #68 Dark_Falcon

I question if they will fall apart. Will they if a bunch of them die in a plane crash while on a junket somewhere? None of these individuals are as important to our economic survival as you suggest, or they think.

75 Lidane  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:00:42pm

re: #69 calochortus

I actually heard some congressman on The Newshour this afternoon complaining that the State of the Union address was a disappointment because Obama didn’t mention Bengazi.

The gibbering lunatics on TGDN and TCOT have been crying about Obama not mentioning Benghazi and Chris Kyle. If POTUS had mentioned them, he would have been accused of exploiting them for his own personal gain.

76 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:00:53pm

re: #74 Achilles Tang

I question if they will fall apart. Will they if a bunch of them die in a plane crash while on a junket somewhere? None of these individuals are as important to our economic survival as you suggest, or they think.

All the more reason to impose stricter regulation and force them to break up in fact.

77 Amory Blaine  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:01:45pm

re: #72 Mich-again

Its probably a good thing they don’t let passengers bring their firearms onto cruise ships.

The not too distant past.

78 Mich-again  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:02:15pm

re: #68 Dark_Falcon

2. Because ‘Too Big to Fail’ is also ‘Too Big to Jail.’ You can’t topple the top leadership of that many large banks without one or more of them falling apart, and the fall of such a bank tips the economy back into recession.

I disagree, as in completely. If the Feds picked one or two particularly egregious assholes who actually broke the law and made an example out of them by charging them it would not send the economy into a tailspin. Do you really think the folks who landed at those jobs have some super secret set of special skills that can’t be replaced in oh about 20 minutes.

79 calochortus  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:02:37pm

re: #73 Gus

Hmmm, rereading my post that should have been “listening to” not “listing to”. Amazing what a little glass of 30-something year old port will do for one’s typing skills. My hubby may have served leftovers for dinner, but he did, definitely come through on the port. I had forgotten we even had it.

80 Achilles Tang  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:03:12pm

re: #76 Kragar (Antichrist )

All the more reason to impose stricter regulation and force them to break up in fact.

We don’t need to break organizations in order to replace individuals - a few individuals.

81 klys  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:03:19pm

re: #79 calochortus

I’m gonna bet you’re having a fine evening then.

82 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:04:10pm

It is impossible to bring the people who damaged the economy up on charges for doing so because to do so would damage the economy.

83 Amory Blaine  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:04:12pm

If our economy is so beholden to banking interests that fear of collapse keeps it from administering justice then the whole thing deserves to collapse.

84 calochortus  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:04:43pm

re: #75 Lidane

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t. Makes it easy for the wingnuts.

85 Mich-again  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:04:44pm

re: #77 Amory Blaine

Was that a passenger’s personal shotgun?

86 calochortus  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:05:44pm

re: #81 klys

I’m gonna bet you’re having a fine evening then.

I am, indeed :-)

87 Achilles Tang  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:05:53pm

re: #81 klys

I’m gonna bet you’re having a fine evening then.

Right, while posting here at the same time. ( / for you)

88 Amory Blaine  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:05:54pm

re: #85 Mich-again

IDK. I just though the hobby of trap shooting on cruise ships was relevant to your comment.

89 klys  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:08:49pm

I wrote one of the two appendices that my advisor was like oh, by the way… today. The second needs me to refresh my memory on some of the technical aspects (because I did this 6 years ago and it’s a whole lot harder to publish negative results so we never did) so I guess I will stop by the office on Saturday. :(

Grad school was a horribly stupid idea.

90 Achilles Tang  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:09:11pm

re: #88 Amory Blaine

IDK. I just though the hobby of trap shooting on cruise ships was relevant to your comment.

Do they no longer do that?

91 calochortus  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:10:44pm

re: #89 klys

I trust it will be worth it in the long run.

92 klys  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:12:34pm

re: #91 calochortus

Probably? Hopefully? It’s been a dream/goal forever, and I know I’d regret if I stopped here, even if I do something completely different afterwards.

This is mostly the stress of the last month talking.

93 Amory Blaine  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:13:17pm

re: #90 Achilles Tang

Do they no longer do that?

Apparently the activity faded out in the early 90s.

94 Achilles Tang  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:14:07pm

re: #92 klys

What branch are you working on?

95 klys  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:15:00pm

re: #94 Achilles Tang

What branch are you working on?

I defend my Ph.D. in geology next month.

96 Achilles Tang  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:15:57pm

Geology is cool. Maybe you can go to Mars.

97 calochortus  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:17:37pm

re: #95 klys

I defend my Ph.D. in geology next month.

Best of luck to you. I got my M.S. in geology many, many years ago (when the price of oil dropped to around $14/bbl and you couldn’t give geologists away, much less find a job, so I never actually used it.)

98 Achilles Tang  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:18:58pm

re: #97 calochortus

Best of luck to you. I got my M.S. in geology many, many years ago (when the price of oil dropped to around $14/bbl and you couldn’t give geologists away, much less find a job, so I never actually used it.)

I suspect the direction in the future is remote sensing, not picking up rocks.

99 klys  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:19:13pm

re: #97 calochortus

Thanks!

I finished my M.S. in materials science last year (did it on the side while working on the Ph.D.) and at the current rate …well, maybe I will go do something else. I’ve sort of come to the conclusion I don’t necessarily like research.

100 calochortus  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:20:55pm

re: #99 klys

You seem to be a glutton for punishment.

101 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:21:42pm

re: #95 klys

I defend my Ph.D. in geology next month.

Any particular specialization or area you specifically want to research in?

102 Achilles Tang  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:21:48pm

re: #99 klys

Then manage research.

103 klys  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:21:52pm

re: #100 calochortus

Yes. It seems.

104 Amory Blaine  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:22:34pm

I had a friend who was a geologist. One of her jobs measured movement around the Hoover Dam.

105 klys  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:23:22pm

re: #101 Feline Fearless Leader

Any particular specialization or area you specifically want to research in?

For the future, no.

But my research topic has focused on glass structure and its influence on physical and thermodynamic properties.

So if I wanted to keep going on it, it would be pretty easy for me to find a job.

106 Achilles Tang  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:24:42pm

re: #105 klys

That sounds more like physical science than geology.

107 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:26:02pm

re: #74 Achilles Tang

I question if they will fall apart. Will they if a bunch of them die in a plane crash while on a junket somewhere? None of these individuals are as important to our economic survival as you suggest, or they think.

It’s not so much the removal of the individual(s) as the panic and feeding frenzy that would likely be engendered.

108 klys  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:26:24pm

re: #106 Achilles Tang

In a lot of ways, yes. But glass (particularly silicate and aluminosilicate, which is my area of focus) is used as a structural equivalent to a silicate melt, better known as magma.

Also, my advisor is in the geology department. Which is really the larger determining factor. I am somewhat field ambivalent. My bachelor’s is chemistry, my master’s materials science, and Ph.D. in geology.

109 Achilles Tang  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:27:16pm

re: #107 Dark_Falcon

If done stupidly, perhaps.

110 Targetpractice  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:28:01pm

re: #107 Dark_Falcon

It’s not so much the removal of the individual(s) as the panic and feeding frenzy that would likely be engendered.

So really, we can’t hold these people responsible for their actions, because once we do, the rest of the rats will flee the sinking ship?

111 calochortus  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:28:11pm

re: #108 klys

You are, in fact, well rounded.

And with that: Goodnight all. Hasta Mañana

112 Mich-again  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:30:32pm

As for the fucked up cruise, I manage fire protection projects and write specs for a really big corporation and there is no good explanation for how a fire in an engine area was not extinguished in a matter of seconds by a special hazard system. Yeah everyone can mock how it was no biggie and there are worse problems in the world like malaria and cancer but really, that this happened tells me that management of that cruise line is tee totally fucked up.

113 Achilles Tang  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:31:46pm

re: #108 klys

Well my degree was in Mechanical Engineering and I ended up as a COBOL programmer (and others). Now I buy and renovate houses.

So it goes. It works out in the end.

Good night till tomorrow.

114 makeitstop  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:32:46pm

I dig Doghouse Riley.

The Republican party is frickin’ insane, to the point that Insanity is the party’s signature principle. The current Republican message isn’t “smaller government” (and perhaps the party would be better off if they’d been called on that little fiction thirty years ago); it’s “feces-hurling psychosis”. The proper venue for that message is “Post-war apocalyptic hellscape.” Marco Rubio’s not ready for his closeup, but his party ain’t ready for even small adjustments, and small adjustments ain’t gonna get the job done.

The whole thing is good. The Auto-Tune Party

115 Gus  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:33:11pm
116 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:35:48pm

re: #70 Targetpractice

Like I was saying earlier today, the only way to cap off this story is to hear Carnival, in order to recap the costs of repairs and sanitation that are no doubt going to be incurred just to make the ship seaworthy again, trying to send bills to passengers for damage to their rooms. You just know there’s some exec at Carnival thinking “There’s no way I’m giving up my plans for a new yacht just to cover these costs.”

Yeah. Bills in the mail, and then also I was waiting for customs to not let people off the boat immediately… Maybe TSA could get involved somehow, leading to a riot of some sort, maybe some local cops tossed in the water, or some wag setting a fire on the boat once they got docked… It would have been peachy for the whole freaking thing to go up in flames with all the TV cameras watching.

I’m sorry people had a bad time, but my inner Joker wanted it to get worse!

Edit: come to think of it, maybe the Joker was the Captain…

117 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:42:11pm

re: #109 Achilles Tang

If done stupidly, perhaps.

Possibly even if done very smartly. Lots of chaotic elements would be in play and it would be possible for the government people involved to make literally all the right moves, only to see things go sideways when stuff they had no way of knowing about walks in out of left field.

Best course would be to leave the past in the past and break the biggest banks down a bit going forward.

118 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:43:02pm

re: #108 klys

In a lot of ways, yes. But glass (particularly silicate and aluminosilicate, which is my area of focus) is used as a structural equivalent to a silicate melt, better known as magma.

Also, my advisor is in the geology department. Which is really the larger determining factor. I am somewhat field ambivalent. My bachelor’s is chemistry, my master’s materials science, and Ph.D. in geology.

Was curious since my brother is a paleontologist teaching in the SUNY system.

119 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:48:13pm

Goodnight, all.

120 prairiefire  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:49:20pm

re: #65 Pawn of the Oppressor

You recently spoke to Matt Damon?

121 austin_blue  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:50:05pm

The original story was that he thought there was an intruder in his house in a gated community in Pretoria.

[Link: www.csmonitor.com…]

I don’t know about anyone else here, but if this was the intruder, I don’t think I’d start blasting away with a 9mm:

[Link: images.search.yahoo.com…]

122 prairiefire  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:50:24pm

...

123 ProBosniaLiberal  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:53:18pm

There has been an meteor airburst in Russia:

Warning. Keep volume low.

124 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:55:45pm

re: #123 ProBosniaLiberal

There has been an meteor airburst in Russia:

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Warning. Keep volume low.

Image: asteroids-428x523.jpg

125 ProBosniaLiberal  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:56:20pm

Happened around Chelyabinsk. There have been reports of damage.

The location of explosion.

126 ProBosniaLiberal  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:58:50pm

This may be the event needed to cause a global wake-up call to near earth asteroids and comets.

127 Mich-again  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:59:52pm

re: #126 ProBosniaLiberal

This may be the event needed to cause a global wake-up call to near earth asteroids and comets.

Under a slightly different set of circumstances, the Tunguska Event in 1908 would have killed millions.

128 ProBosniaLiberal  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 10:01:31pm

re: #127 Mich-again

If had come 5-6 hours later, St. Petersburg would have been annihilated.

129 ProBosniaLiberal  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 10:04:46pm

Of course, RT is claiming the missile defence system hit it.

I find this unlikely. Thoughts?

130 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 10:04:55pm

re: #126 ProBosniaLiberal

This may be the event needed to cause a global wake-up call to near earth asteroids and comets.

Asteroids and comets are flying around up there asleep?!?

131 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 10:08:52pm

re: #126 ProBosniaLiberal

This may be the event needed to cause a global wake-up call to near earth asteroids and comets.

Or, it means we need to oppose gay marriage more vigorously to ensure Jesus’s magic forcefield stays at full power.

132 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 10:10:57pm

re: #123 ProBosniaLiberal

There has been an meteor airburst in Russia:

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Warning. Keep volume low.

From the comments:

ryelor123 37 minutes ago

Thanks Obama
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James Vega 35 minutes ago

oh for fucks sake he had nothing to do with this be quiet

133 ProBosniaLiberal  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 10:14:03pm

Police Dash Cam makes real damn clear what happened:

That’s a surprise I would not like to see when getting on the the exit ramp.

134 ProBosniaLiberal  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 10:16:22pm

Two more here:

135 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 10:21:55pm

Meanwhile CNN is still interviewing cruise ship passengers.

136 ProBosniaLiberal  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 10:24:15pm

re: #135 Kragar (Antichrist )

Reports are still very sketchy. It’s been only about 30 minutes to an hour ago, and in a relatively isolated part of Russia as well. See you all tomorrow.

137 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 10:25:05pm

re: #136 ProBosniaLiberal

Reports are still very sketchy. It’s been only about 30 minutes to an hour ago, and in a relatively isolated part of Russia as well. See you all tomorrow.

You would think maybe they would have a newsticker or something on the scroll saying it happened at least.

138 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 10:43:37pm

Meteor shower explodes in central Russia and Urals injuring people

“There was a meteor shower, without fragments falling to the ground,” an emergencies ministry spokesman told the Interfax news agency today.

“A meteorite exploded above the Chelyabinsk region (of the Urals). The shock wave blew out windows in several places.”

The interior ministry said people had been injured by flying glass at a school in Chelyabinsk.

“A meteorite disintegrated above the Urals (mountain range in central Russia), partially burning up in the lower atmosphere,” the local office of the national emergencies ministry said in a satement.

“Fragments of the meteorite reached Earth, falling in sparsely populated areas in the Chelyabinsk region,” it said.
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“According to preliminary information, four people have been injured by flying glass,” it said.

139 simoom  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 10:48:00pm

This sort of thing makes you glad no one trigger-happy seems to be in charge of the nuclear arsenal:

Meteorite Crash Reported In Russia

*warning* This one is really loud:

More videos at the linked buzzfeed article.

140 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 11:07:01pm

re: #133 ProBosniaLiberal

Police Dash Cam makes real damn clear what happened:

That’s probably not a police car, dash cams are ubiquitous in Russia because of the endemic fraud and corruption.

141 engineer cat  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 11:09:50pm

huh

somebody in pakistan wants to buy a copy of my software BUT PAYPAL DON’T DO NO PAKISTAN NOHOW NOWAY

142 TedStriker  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 11:22:26pm

re: #141 engineer cat

huh

somebody in pakistan wants to buy a copy of my software BUT PAYPAL DON’T DO NO PAKISTAN NOHOW NOWAY

Lemme guess…they want to pay by check or Western Union?

143 simoom  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 11:22:32pm

I live on a hill, and maybe once every couple months I’m awoken by a low-flying jet or a really heavy quarry or logging truck going by. And so consciousness returns to a deep roar and a vibrations throughout my body. It takes a couple seconds to fully wake up, and push the panicked near certainty that I’m moments from being snuffed out in some kind of nuclear armageddon.

So I doubt I’d deal particularly well with experiencing a similar meteorite explosion to what’s being reported here :P.

144 engineer cat  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 11:26:05pm

re: #142 TedStriker

Lemme guess…they want to pay by check or Western Union?

i’d take a check, if it is actually possible to cash a check from pakistan

145 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Feb 14, 2013 11:26:52pm

re: #144 engineer cat

i’d take a check, if it is actually possible to cash a check from pakistan

Just send them all your bank account details so they can transfer the money…

146 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:28:55am

where’s freetoken when the thread needs a musical interlude to keep it going?

147 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:15:30am

re: #146 Sol Berdinowitz

148 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:38:43am

re: #146 Sol Berdinowitz

where’s freetoken when the thread needs a musical interlude to keep it going?

149 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:59:09am

re: #148 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

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they are having too much fun licking those lollies…

150 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 4:21:03am
151 Inner Partisan  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 4:23:20am

re: #126 ProBosniaLiberal

Also, it’s one hell of a coincidence, too, because another NEA that actually is Tunguska-sized will make a very close pass (below geostationary orbit, I believe) later this day.

Well. We all know why the Dinosaurs went extinct: They didn’t have a space program.

152 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 4:24:42am
153 Stoatly  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 4:26:42am

re: #140 goddamnedfrank

That’s probably not a police car, dash cams are ubiquitous in Russia because of the endemic fraud and corruption.

Having been in the depressing crap-hole that is Moscow I can confirm all that - but also the standards of driving are appalling, I’ve never seen so many minor collisions in my life and it’s not just because so many cars are in a shitty state, I’ve been in Third-World countries with terrible vehicles - people at least try to avoid each other, and exhibit some skill in doing so

154 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 4:39:55am

re: #153 Stoatly

Having been in the depressing crap-hole that is Moscow I can confirm all that - but also the standards of driving are appalling, I’ve never seen so many minor collisions in my life and it’s not just because so many cars are in a shitty state, I’ve been in Third-World countries with terrible vehicles - people at least try to avoid each other, and exhibit some skill in doing so

Moscow is a city where you can stand on the corner and flag down a random vehicle and agree on a price for the driver to take you where you want to go. There are professional taxis in the city but they mostly go to and from the airports and tourist hotels.

Also Moscow=major gridlock, just from the way the city is laid out, and more vehicles than it can accommodate.

155 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 4:56:32am

re: #153 Stoatly

Having been in the depressing crap-hole that is Moscow I can confirm all that - but also the standards of driving are appalling, I’ve never seen so many minor collisions in my life and it’s not just because so many cars are in a shitty state, I’ve been in Third-World countries with terrible vehicles - people at least try to avoid each other, and exhibit some skill in doing so

Auto insurance must be high out there.

156 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 4:59:03am

re: #155 NJDhockeyfan

Auto insurance must be high out there.

In Soviet Russia, GEICO save 15% on YOU!

157 Stoatly  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 5:14:06am

re: #154 Vicious Babushka

Took a “proper” taxi once, and only once - one of the scariest rides of my life

It was a tiny rusty Lada (Moscow only seemed to have tiny rusty cars or giant pimped-out SUVs , yeah it’s a broad brush I’m painting with, I know - I wasn’t there long and my memories are impressionistic)
We weren’t keen on the way the crapmobile swerved under braking, at one point across another traffic lane and onto the tram tracks.

But the worse part was the near collision with an even more decrepit vehicle, more a compost heap than a car, which was being pushed across four lanes of busy traffic by a group of men causing predictable chaos

158 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 5:16:20am
159 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 5:31:37am

The NY Daily News goes after LaPierre again:

National Rifle Association chief’s unhinged picture of America

160 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 5:42:56am

An incoherent nutter says what?

LOL @ Paultards being Obama fans. The rest is just as unhinged.

161 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 5:59:19am

Hey, D_F, I know you think every Democrat in Illinois is Al Capone, but this guy is the Republican’s ranking member on a State Senate committee.

Illinois Lawmaker: Legalizing Gay Marriage Is ‘Discriminatory’

162 geoffm33  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:00:03am

So he is upset that #watergate2 is getting more press coverage than Sen Ted Kennedy’s DWI? Judging by this nuts twitter handle he was 5 when Chappaquiddick happened. Strong early childhood memory?

163 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:01:43am

It’s Morning.

you?

164 darthstar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:02:54am

Good morning everyone. The Russians got quite a show last night, didn’t they?

165 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:03:39am

re: #159 dragonath

The NY Daily News goes after LaPierre again:

National Rifle Association chief’s unhinged picture of America

” Our prayer: That LaPierre keeps talking.

Because the more he talks and the more lies he tells in his desperate bid to stem the tide running toward measures such as universal background checks on gun sales, the more LaPierre puts on view the distorted vision of the U.S. that fires his heart and will consume him in the end.”

No kidding. The Whackos™ are showing how out-of-sync they are.

166 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:04:56am

So, waking up this morning to the news that the Urals were hit by fragments of an exploding meteorite and that hundreds have been injured. The video is pretty amazing to watch, and yet the idiots on twitter are doing their best impression of idiots.

Jonah Goldberg is on the case:

What Jonah and other GOPers and wingnuts ignore is that the NSF, JPL, and NASA need sufficient funds to operate Near Earth Orbit studies to locate potential damaging meteoroids and asteroids before they strike. The budgets for both are under constant threat of losing funds despite critical importance.

167 Interesting Times  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:06:30am
168 Flounder  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:06:48am

My question, is this meteorite related to the near miss comet?
[Link: www.nasa.gov…]

Will there be more strikes before and after this “near miss”

169 Political Atheist  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:07:46am

Varek….

Did you drop something? Over Russia maybe?

170 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:07:59am

re: #164 darthstar

That’s no moon, no meteorite, space station. That’s no Bhagavad Gita. The shatterer of worlds.

And I apologize in advance for setting the HAARP to disintegrate. Was fiddling with the controls last night before hitting the rack.

171 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:09:24am

re: #168 Flounder

My question, is this meteorite related to the near miss comet?
[Link: www.nasa.gov…]

Will there be more strikes before and after this “near miss”

No, separate events. Yet, they highlight the need to increase studies of Near Earth Orbit (NEO) objects. There’s plenty out there we’ve yet to identify, let alone track with sufficient precision to know their orbits and whether they pose long term risks.

172 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:09:42am
173 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:11:10am

YES. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?

174 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:11:19am

Wonder what the Whackos™ will say about it … .

175 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:11:49am

re: #173 Vicious Babushka

YES. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?

What ever it takes to stop a meteorite?

:0

176 darthstar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:12:03am

re: #170 lawhawk

That’s no moon, no meteorite, space station. That’s no Bhagavad Gita. The shatterer of worlds.

And I apologize in advance for setting the HAARP to disintegrate. Was fiddling with the controls last night before hitting the rack.

Russian scientists estimate it to be around eleven tons. That’s a big fuckin’ rock…like five Volvos rolled up together like a ball of foil. Would have loved to have seen it in person just to experience the shockwave. That had to be intense.

177 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:13:30am

Did Lucifer create asteroids, or do I have to go to Oral Roberts to understand this cosmic mystery?

178 darthstar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:14:29am

re: #175 FemNaziBitch

What ever it takes to stop a meteorite?

:0

When an eleven ton rock comes hurling at earth from space at 54,000 miles per hour, I like to protect my suckling brood with an AR-15.

179 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:14:44am

These are not fake.

Holy shit.

180 darthstar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:15:04am

re: #177 dragonath

Did Lucifer create asteroids, or do I have to go to Oral Roberts to understand this cosmic mystery?

God thinks our planet is gay.

181 Kronocide  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:16:00am

re: #179 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Lots of goats around a golf course I play at. They do sound human, a lot.

182 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:16:00am

re: #179 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

These are not fake.

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Holy shit.

I want one!

183 Kronocide  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:16:47am

re: #180 darthstar

God thinks our planet is gay.

It’s a message from God. He doesn’t like Russian windows.

184 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:18:49am

God hates the Orthodox Church, the Old Believers were right all along!

P.S.

This is what happens when you spell Jesus wrong

185 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:19:00am

re: #178 darthstar

When an eleven ton rock comes hurling at earth from space at 54,000 miles per hour, I like to protect my suckling brood with an AR-15.

Cindy Jacobs’ 5-year-old daughter can stop a meteorite with the Power of Invoking Jesus!

186 Flounder  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:19:57am

I’m sure we all remember Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

Over the next 6 days, 21 distinct impacts were observed

Of course Jupiter has a slight edge in its strength of gravity.

187 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:20:02am

re: #185 Vicious Babushka

Cindy Jacobs’ 5-year-old daughter can stop a meteorite with the Power of Invoking Jesus!

Man, those Universal Catholiks have more scisms that I can keep track of.

188 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:22:47am

bbl

189 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:25:09am

re: #176 darthstar

I’m betting you’re the kind of person who’d want to know what it feels like to get struck by lightning too. Just to know what it feels like. /Dusty

190 darthstar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:33:36am
191 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:34:34am

re: #189 lawhawk

I’m betting you’re the kind of person who’d want to know what it feels like to get struck by lightning too. Just to know what it feels like. /Dusty

I don’t think it was Dusty (P.S. Hoffman) who actually said that. It was that curly-haired balding guy I think?

192 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:34:51am

What right-wing racism?

193 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:36:32am

re: #191 Ghost of Tom Joad

You might be right, but it’s something Dusty would say though. /fake quote but accurate.

194 darthstar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:37:35am

re: #189 lawhawk

I’m betting you’re the kind of person who’d want to know what it feels like to get struck by lightning too. Just to know what it feels like. /Dusty

Nah…but seeing a meteorite fly overhead like that would definitely be worth the accompanying butt-pucker.

195 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:41:06am

re: #194 darthstar

Gotta agree with you. Some of the video and stills look like they’re straight out of a movie.

There’s one showing contrails from the meter streaking through that looks like the ribbon from ST: Generations.

Others look like the opening sequences from Armageddon.

And there’s video showing the smoke and then the repetitive sonic booms as individual bits rain down, along with the shattering of glass and car alarms going off.

Wild stuff.

Can’t wait for the inevitable conspiracies that this is really the first step in a real Armageddon (or Deep Impact since it has an African American president in office when the big one hits). /

196 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:41:37am

re: #194 darthstar

Nah…but seeing a meteorite fly overhead like that would definitely be worth the accompanying butt-pucker.

I’m just happy it didn’t happen in America. Apparently it would signal all of the NRA members to start shooting at everything they see.

197 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:44:16am

re: #192 Vicious Babushka

What right-wing racism?

Yep. But it’s not just that, it’s a reflection of the people who don’t seem capable of grasping this thing called population density; not even when they’re from a suburb of a large city themselves.

The answer, rube, is that democracy is one person == one vote. Not one acre == one vote, not one dollar == one vote, however much you and yours wish to return to feudalism and aristocracy.

198 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:44:25am

re: #195 lawhawk

Can’t wait for the inevitable conspiracies that this is really the first step in a real Armageddon (or Deep Impact since it has an African American president in office when the big one hits). /

It’s all Chuck Hagel’s fault because he said something about Israel.

Cue the apocalypse.

199 darthstar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:44:44am

It’s almost 7am. Where’s KT? Shouldn’t he be here by now with a link to someone saying they’re sad Dorner missed the meteorite?

200 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:44:51am

re: #196 Ghost of Tom Joad

I’m just happy it didn’t happen in America. Apparently it would signal all of the NRA members to start shooting at everything they see.

When Orson Welles precipitated the apocalypse, some dude shot at a water tower

201 darthstar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:45:35am

The meteorite needs a name. I hereby christen it Benghazi.

202 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:46:21am

re: #199 darthstar

It’s almost 7am. Where’s KT? Shouldn’t he be here by now with a link to someone saying they’re sad Dorner missed the meteorite?

Nah, that’s after the morning Muslim post.

203 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:46:30am

Injury reports still coming in from Russia: Now more than 1,000 injured from the meteorite event over the Urals.

204 Political Atheist  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:47:35am

re: #195 lawhawk
re: #194 darthstar


The lesson is if you see that even way the heck overhead, get yourself and others away from windows and cover your ears.

205 darthstar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:48:28am

re: #196 Ghost of Tom Joad

I’m just happy it didn’t happen in America. Apparently it would signal all of the NRA members to start shooting at everything they see.

Nah…only about 19% of the NRA members. Most of them are still just members because they grew up as sportsmen (hunting and target shooting…for accuracy…not the assault rifle crap). It’s not their fault the gun lobby turned the organization into a political retard.

206 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:49:09am

re: #197 kirkspencer

Yep. But it’s not just that, it’s a reflection of the people who don’t seem capable of grasping this thing called population density; not even when they’re from a suburb of a large city themselves.

The answer, rube, is that democracy is one person == one vote. Not one acre == one vote, not one dollar == one vote, however much you and yours wish to return to feudalism and aristocracy.

There are people on TGDN who are so dumb they don’t understand how Mitt Romney lost the election when he got so many more red spaces on the map!

207 darthstar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:49:31am

re: #204 Political Atheist

re: #194 darthstar

The lesson is if you see that even way the heck overhead, get yourself and others away from windows and cover your ears.

Or open your shirt, spread your arms out, and feel the power…just not next to a window.

208 Stoatly  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:50:26am

re: #176 darthstar

Would have loved to have seen it in person just to experience the shockwave. That had to be intense.

Is one of these guys you?

209 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:50:40am

re: #205 darthstar

Heh, I know, just razzing on LaPierre’s batshittery from yesterday. I used to be an NRA guy back when I did some small-time competitive shooting. Grew up with them, left sometime in the late 90s (though they probably still have me on the membership rolls to inflate their #s).

210 Professor Chaos  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:52:23am

I’ve been trying to imagine what a large-scale evacuation of a projected impact site would look like, given, say 24 hours warning. Would it even be possible, given a large enough object, to evacuate thousands of square miles? Probably not. How horrible would that be to watch unfold?

211 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:52:57am

re: #167 Interesting Times

Yes, yes and yes. Much as I like my friend who ended up being on that Carnival ship, what she’s gone through the last few days is gross, but not insurmountable. She won’t be traumatized for life by it.

I could point at thousands of people along both sides of the Mexican border who live in colonias. They deal with things like lack of running water and electricity every goddamn day. No one cares. It’s shameful.

212 Political Atheist  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:53:16am

re: #209 Ghost of Tom Joad

Heh, I know, just razzing on LaPierre’s batshittery from yesterday. I used to be an NRA guy back when I did some small-time competitive shooting. Grew up with them, left sometime in the late 90s (though they probably still have me on the membership rolls to inflate their #s).

Handgun?

213 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:53:29am

re: #206 Vicious Babushka

There are people on TGDN who are so dumb they don’t understand how Mitt Romney lost the election when he got so many more red spaces on the map!

Population density, how the fuck does it work?

214 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:54:06am

re: #211 Lidane

Yes, yes and yes. Much as I like my friend who ended up being on that Carnival ship, what she’s gone through the last few days is gross, but not insurmountable. She won’t be traumatized for life by it.

I could point at thousands of people along both sides of the Mexican border who live in colonias. They deal with things like lack of running water and electricity every goddamn day. No one cares. It’s shameful.

BUT THEY’RE USED TO IT! THEY DON’T KNOW THERE IS ANYTHING BETTER!1!

215 Professor Chaos  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:54:10am

re: #206 Vicious Babushka

There are people on TGDN who are so dumb they don’t understand how Mitt Romney lost the election when he got so many more red spaces on the map!

All people on TGDN are so dumb that they think a hashtag can defeat Twitter’s TOS.

216 makeitstop  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:54:36am

re: #162 geoffm33

So he is upset that #watergate2 is getting more press coverage than Sen Ted Kennedy’s DWI? Judging by this nuts twitter handle he was 5 when Chappaquiddick happened. Strong early childhood memory?

Current events, how the fuck do they work?

217 Political Atheist  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:54:40am

re: #201 darthstar

The meteorite needs a name. I hereby christen it Benghazi.

Banghazi from the sound of the thing :-)>

218 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:55:13am

Tim Tebow, the Jets benchwarmer and one time hero to Denver Broncos fans, makes no secret of his religious beliefs. He’s gone and spoken at mega churches and other big religious gatherings before, but a planned speech at a church in Dallas should raise eyebrows.

The church is headed up by Dr. Robert Jeffress. Jeffress has made one controversial comment after another. He’s on the record saying gays shouldn’t be allowed in the military because 70% have AIDS; Islam, Mormonism and Judaism came “from the pit of hell”; Obama’s reelection “would lead to a rise of the Antichrist”; and gay activists have been attempting to conceal “the link between homosexuality and pedophilia.”

Rick Perry also got into hot water when Jeffress introduced him during Perry’s abortive campaign for the GOP nomination for president in 2011, claiming that Mormonism is a cult. He later went on to endorse Romney over Obama because he thought Obama opposed biblical principals.

Nutty doesn’t begin to touch on his belief system. Tebow shouldn’t be going within 10 miles of the guy, and yet he’s going to do so.

219 darthstar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:55:33am

re: #209 Ghost of Tom Joad

Heh, I know, just razzing on LaPierre’s batshittery from yesterday. I used to be an NRA guy back when I did some small-time competitive shooting. Grew up with them, left sometime in the late 90s (though they probably still have me on the membership rolls to inflate their #s).

Imagine…if all the sane NRA members quit(even though their overall membership is miniscule on a national scale), we’d see Republicans diving for the cameras to be first to show their new gun control bills off.

220 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:55:53am

re: #210 Girth

I’ve been trying to imagine what a large-scale evacuation of a projected impact site would look like, given, say 24 hours warning. Would it even be possible, given a large enough object, to evacuate thousands of square miles? Probably not. How horrible would that be to watch unfold?

Eh, depends. Ocean impact, you’d have to evacuate multiple coasts for hundreds of miles. On land, you can pray it lands in a fairly rural area. Anything near a major city and you’re looking at FUBAR. Not to mention Congressional Repubs would delay any funding of any evacuation until we came up with equal spending cuts.

221 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:56:23am

DERP

222 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:58:36am

re: #212 Political Atheist

Handgun?

No, rifle, trap/skeet. Never liked handguns. One good thing I can say about my gun-nutter relatives: no assault weapons or handguns.

223 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 6:59:38am

OBAMA IS A 123 YEAR OLD VAMPIRE!1!


224 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:00:22am

How do these wingnuts even know what the President’s SS# is? That information is not available to the public. DERP.

225 iossarian  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:00:49am

re: #218 lawhawk

Yeah but Praise Jesus and I just Thank the Lord for all my Gifts and I’m just trying to stay Humble and Give the Glory to God and Praise Jesus.

226 makeitstop  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:01:04am

re: #179 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

These are not fake.

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Holy shit.

ROFL.

227 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:01:06am

re: #224 Vicious Babushka

How do these wingnuts even know what the President’s SS# is? That information is not available to the public. DERP.

Because Orly Taitz told them.

228 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:02:18am

re: #219 darthstar

Imagine…if all the sane NRA members quit(even though their overall membership is miniscule on a national scale), we’d see Republicans diving for the cameras to be first to show their new gun control bills off.

I dunno, is it really about the actual membership numbers anymore? I think it’s more about the money that flows into their campaigns (well, I’d guess anyway) from the various manufacturers.

229 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:03:19am

re: #219 darthstar

Imagine…if all the sane NRA members quit(even though their overall membership is miniscule on a national scale), we’d see Republicans diving for the cameras to be first to show their new gun control bills off.

Actually, I’m suspicious of the claimed membership numbers already. There is no legal requirement to have the rolls audited, and there’s been some evidence that “lifetime” membership continues even into the afterlife. Add the unknown number of honorary memberships and the associate memberships that continue as long as the primary still exists. Oh, and apparently “inactive” gets counted for several years as well.

I’m basing all that on personal and family experience, by the way. Call it anecdote for now, but there have been articles that report similar events.

Bottom line, I have this suspicion that the true membership numbers are a lot smaller than people think, and the main leverage comes from it being yet another front for Monied Peoples’ Influence.

230 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:05:37am

re: #218 lawhawk

Ugh, Tebow is a sanctimonious shit and a lousy quarterback. The only difference between him and the other religious grifters is he just found a new way to sell himself to the rubes.

231 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:06:43am

re: #229 kirkspencer

Absolutely. I’ve seen reports that also indicate that the purchase of a firearm also includes a “free” membership in the NRA, whether from the manufacturer or the dealer/retailer.

For instance, Taurus provides a 1-year free membership.

232 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:07:36am

Derp:

233 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:07:37am

re: #219 darthstar

Imagine…if all the sane NRA members quit(even though their overall membership is miniscule on a national scale), we’d see Republicans diving for the cameras to be first to show their new gun control bills off.

Won’t happen till the makers get on board as they did with the 1986 bill closing the Class III registry.

234 Professor Chaos  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:08:04am

At some point the membership of the NRA has to realize that at the very least Wayne LaPierre is an awful spokesman for their organization.

235 makeitstop  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:09:24am

re: #218 lawhawk

Tim Tebow, the Jets benchwarmer and one time hero to Denver Broncos fans, makes no secret of his religious beliefs. He’s gone and spoken at mega churches and other big religious gatherings before, but a planned speech at a church in Dallas should raise eyebrows.

The church is headed up by Dr. Robert Jeffress. Jeffress has made one controversial comment after another. He’s on the record saying gays shouldn’t be allowed in the military because 70% have AIDS; Islam, Mormonism and Judaism came “from the pit of hell”; Obama’s reelection “would lead to a rise of the Antichrist”; and gay activists have been attempting to conceal “the link between homosexuality and pedophilia.”

Rick Perry also got into hot water when Jeffress introduced him during Perry’s abortive campaign for the GOP nomination for president in 2011, claiming that Mormonism is a cult. He later went on to endorse Romney over Obama because he thought Obama opposed biblical principals.

Nutty doesn’t begin to touch on his belief system. Tebow shouldn’t be going within 10 miles of the guy, and yet he’s going to do so.

I really hope the Jets cut him loose, if they haven’t already (not following the NYJ in the least nowadays).

236 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:09:31am

re: #210 Girth

I’ve been trying to imagine what a large-scale evacuation of a projected impact site would look like, given, say 24 hours warning. Would it even be possible, given a large enough object, to evacuate thousands of square miles? Probably not. How horrible would that be to watch unfold?

First, if the area impacted is going to be thousands of square miles we’re going to be in the category of global catastrophe - world killer.

That said, the possible impact area, even 24 hours out, is going to be even larger. There are too many variables, not least is tumbling, calving, and buffeting when it hits atmosphere.

And with that noted, you’re not evacuating a major city in 24 hours. Parts of it, sure, but not whole cities. Start with the doubters, add the procrastinators and the caretakers. Nope, not gonna happen.

237 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:10:05am

re: #234 Girth

At some point the membership of the NRA has to realize that at the very least, Wayne LaPierre is an awful spokesman or their organization.

Why? He’s doing a great job of driving sales of guns and ammo by scaring the nutters into believing that Obama is going to take their gunz.

238 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:11:17am

re: #234 Girth

At some point the membership of the NRA has to realize that at the very least, Wayne LaPierre is an awful spokesman or their organization.

The members, for the most part, do. However, in the aftermath of their own Coup de’tet in 1977, they rigged the bylaws so that it’s virtually impossible to given them the boot.

239 Professor Chaos  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:11:43am

re: #236 kirkspencer

First, if the area impacted is going to be thousands of square miles we’re going to be in the category of global catastrophe - world killer.

That said, the possible impact area, even 24 hours out, is going to be even larger. There are too many variables, not least is tumbling, calving, and buffeting when it hits atmosphere.

And with that noted, you’re not evacuating a major city in 24 hours. Parts of it, sure, but not whole cities. Start with the doubters, add the procrastinators and the caretakers. Nope, not gonna happen.

Yes, should have been more clear. I don’t mean for the impact site to be that size, but that that much area would have to be evacuated due to the shockwave, debris, etc.

240 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:12:14am

re: #235 makeitstop

I’m a Giants fan but can’t help but snicker at the craziness across the way in Jets-land. Their signing of Tebow was a mistake from the outset, and all their claims of secrecy about how they would use him was just insane. Turns out their secret strategy was to essentially have him ride the pine all season long and at the moment that they would need him most, he begged out of a game, claiming an injury.

I blame that on the GM (who has since been replaced) and the coach, Rex Ryan, who’s still there despite his inability to actually coach this team over the past couple of years. He’s gotten progressively worse with each season.

241 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:12:24am

Ucccch, TGDN doing a lot of re-tweeting links to a toxic white supremacist site called “top conservative news” just as horrible as stormfront.

242 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:13:05am

re: #239 Girth

I guess we should be glad there weren’t any aircraft in the affected airspace either - since they too could have been damaged by falling debris, leading to their crashes.

243 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:14:27am

re: #234 Girth

At some point the membership of the NRA has to realize that at the very least Wayne LaPierre is an awful spokesman for their organization.

But it’s not the membership that matters. I can’t find it on a short look, but a lizard here posted a link not so long ago to an article on how the NRA leadership is selected.

A panel is appointed by the current leadership which nominate members for the election slate. They will take a few names from write-ins, but mostly do their own selections. It is not atypical of NPs, by the way. But the bottom line is that it’s even less selective than the presidential elections. We the Leaders select the slate, you the members pick from the slate.

244 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:15:38am

re: #241 Vicious Babushka

Which site? (please don’t link, just name.)

245 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:16:41am

re: #240 lawhawk

Giants! Good, can’t stand the Jest.

I think their problem starts with Woody Johnson. He’s a bit of a wingnut himself, and I think bringing in Juicebox Jesus (note: link to crazy FDL, but it’s TBogg who’s awesome IMO) was nothing more than a PR/ticket sale stunt. That team is a circus.

246 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:17:33am

re: #192 Vicious Babushka

Ghetto’s are the ruling class in these not United States…how did we let this Happen??

Maybe when white people stopped learning how to write in English, like not to use an apostrophe to make a plural?

247 darthstar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:17:53am

Okay…the wife woke up enough for me to watch the video with sound…that shockwave from that meteorite took a long time to reach ground. Good thing there were no commercial airliners in its path.

248 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:18:03am

re: #244 kirkspencer

Which site? (please don’t link, just name.)

I named it in quotes in the above post. Not naming it again to avoid Google search hits.

249 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:18:47am

re: #197 kirkspencer

Yep. But it’s not just that, it’s a reflection of the people who don’t seem capable of grasping this thing called population density; not even when they’re from a suburb of a large city themselves.

The answer, rube, is that democracy is one person == one vote. Not one acre == one vote, not one dollar == one vote, however much you and yours wish to return to feudalism and aristocracy.

They look at those maps that show the red vs. blue states/counties and gro convinced that the blue states have somehow usurped power in this country.

250 iossarian  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:21:16am

re: #246 Sol Berdinowitz

Maybe when white people stopped learning how to write in English, like not to use an apostrophe to make a plural?

It always makes me smile when the True Defenders of All-Around White Goodness fuck up basic aspects of the English language.

251 Interesting Times  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:22:32am

re: #250 iossarian

It always makes me smile when the True Defenders of All-Around White Goodness fuck up basic aspects of the English language.

Image: officallanguage.jpg

252 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:24:35am

re: #163 FemNaziBitch

It’s Morning.

you?

I knew something was up this morning when I got up late for work, got dressed (after putting out cat food), put on my coat, and as I headed for the door the one cat sauntered ahead of me and plopped down across the doorway to prevent me leaving.

253 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:26:22am

re: #248 Vicious Babushka

ah. missed that, thanks.

254 darthstar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:27:13am

Be nice if the Jets just announced they’re cutting Tebow and announced it like this: Yeah, he’s got an okay arm and is a good back-up, but the guy’s a total dick.

255 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:29:11am

re: #252 Feline Fearless Leader

That means you can’t go to work and you have to stay home with the cat. Those are the rules. Everyone knows that.

256 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:29:27am

re: #251 Interesting Times

I’d imagine speaking “American” would be a little like lolcats.

257 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:31:08am

Shocka!

Report: Killed Iranian official was Iran’s Hezbollah attaché

Arab media has reported that dead Revolutionary Guard official used guise of false alias to coordinate Iran’s activities in Lebanon, Syria; including funds, weapon transfers to Hezbollah and rehabilitating arsenal

258 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:32:23am

re: #71 Kragar (Antichrist )

Which is why a major bank spent years laundering money for the drug cartels, making a nice profit and when they got busted, paid the equivalent of a months pay as a fine and no one went to jail.

HOORAY BUSINESS!

But if I was busted selling more than an oz of weed I would get 3 - 6 years in prison. Sounds completely reasonable seeing as I am just low life scum but those bankers are wealthy high life scum. Best justice money can buy.

259 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:32:55am

re: #223 Vicious Babushka

Wait, I think this is the Breakthrough we’ve all been waiting for. This will Finally do it. Get Sheriff Joe and that crazy dentist lawyer lady in California on the phone. //

260 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:33:17am

re: #256 dragonath

I’d imagine speaking “American” would be a little like lolcats.

When you said lolcats, made me think of this from a 50 most loathesome list

35. Teabaggers
Charges: America’s dumbest and most racist citizens finally found a cause they could all get behind that isn’t pro wrestling or NASCAR. The Lolcats of protest sign grammar, they think scare quotes actually make things scary (e.g. “Obama is a ‘communist’ “). They don’t understand that they’re duped showpieces for billionaires who threaten their freedom and prosperity far more than their beloved nemesis, Big Gubmint. And their instant escalation from complacent couch potatoes to rhetorical revolutionaries just happened to coincide with the election of a black Democrat with the middle name Hussein. What are the chances?
Exhibit A: They called it Teabagging first.
Sentence: To star in an extremely patriotic, live ammunition reenactment the Battle of Bunker hill.

261 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:34:41am

re: #216 makeitstop

Current events, how the fuck do they work?

MAGNETS!

262 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:35:43am

re: #259 Bulworth

Wait, I think this is the Breakthrough we’ve all been waiting for. This will Finally do it. Get Sheriff Joe and that crazy dentist lawyer lady in California on the phone. //

SCOTUS has Orly’s case coming up on the docket. There will be delicious wingnut tears when she finally gets the ultimate smackdown.

263 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:36:31am

re: #258 Eventual Carrion

But if I was busted selling more than an oz of weed I would get 3 - 6 years in prison. Sounds completely reasonable seeing as I am just low life scum but those bankers are wealthy high life scum. Best justice money can buy.

too big to jail.

we lost the war on drugs, and not just to the cartels

264 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:36:52am

re: #206 Vicious Babushka

There are people on TGDN who are so dumb they don’t understand how Mitt Romney lost the election when he got so many more red spaces on the map!

Tea Party should propose new Constitooshunal amendment to Constitution to base electoral votes on number of counties won.

265 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:37:58am

re: #262 Vicious Babushka

Yeah, but, but but but, what about the 1890 birthyr person PBO is stealing from?! /

266 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:38:10am

re: #264 Bulworth

Tea Party should propose new Constitooshunal amendment to Constitution to base electoral votes on number of counties square miles won.

267 geoffm33  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:38:38am

re: #254 darthstar

Be nice if the Jets just announced they’re cutting Tebow and announced it like this: Yeah, he’s got an okay arm and is a good back-up, but the guy’s a total dick.

But they’d be lying about the bolded.

268 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:38:45am

I”m back from my errand.

All the right-wing rhetoric in the world won’t change my vote.

The last election showed that votes still matter.

It’s the only reason I have any sanity left.

269 Eclectic Cyborg (formerly dragonfire1981)  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:41:48am

OT, but wanted to vent:

My company announced recently that, as of March 1, they are changing the way we accumulate paid vacation days. Without going to deep into the math, the central takeaway is that every employee at the company will now be getting 6 fewer days of vacation time each year.

Lovely.

And to add insult to injury, the official notice about the changes indicates that “despite these changes, our policy remains competitive with those of others in our industry.”

Oh, ok so just because other companies are yanking benefits from workers you figure “what the heck, let’s do that too!”. As if being noted for treating your employees BETTER than other companies would be such a terrible thing.

270 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:42:20am

I started reading #UniteBlue just to get away from the TGDN nutbags, but there are some moonbats there who post to crap conspiracy sites like Mondoweiss and antiwar. Still, there are not as many of them as there are at TGDN.

271 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:43:35am

You know what was even worse than being a passenger on that Carnival cruise ship?

Being a crew member.

272 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:44:20am

re: #269 dragonfire1981

Scott Adams relates an anecdote in a book about a company whoe employees were required to put in an hour of unpaid overtime per day. An employee got back from twoo week’s vacation and was approached by the HR director and told that he owed 10 hours of overtime for the two weeks he was away…

273 darthstar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:45:12am

John McCain explains why he filibustered Hagel:

It goes back to there’s a lot of ill will towards Senator Hagel because when he was a Republican, he attacked President Bush mercilessly and said he was the worst President since Herbert Hoover and said the surge was the worst blunder since the Vietnam War, which was nonsense. He was anti-his own party and people — people don’t forget that.

John McCain’s a petty little cocksucker, isn’t he? Jesus fucking christ…he’s blocking a defense secretary because he disagreed with Bush seven fucking years ago?

274 makeitstop  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:46:07am
275 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:46:07am

re: #273 darthstar

John McCain explains why he filibustered Hagel:

John McCain’s a petty little cocksucker, isn’t he? Jesus fucking christ…he’s blocking a defense secretary because he disagreed with Bush seven fucking years ago?

Petty people don’t forget slights

276 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:46:29am

re: #255 Bulworth

That means you can’t go to work and you have to stay home with the cat. Those are the rules. Everyone knows that.

I ended up distracting her with a rolled squash ball to get her out of the way. Luckily the other cat was on the window sill watching the local bird population at the time, so I was able to get out the door.

While fixing a quick cup of tea I made the mistake of opening the pantry door for some reason. ZIP! Two cats in the pantry (ground level is open so they go in there and play with an onion skin lying there that rattles in an amusing way.) So I just closed the door on them for a few minutes so as to do a few things undisturbed. Let them out a little before I left, which still led to cat blockade.

277 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:48:08am

re: #265 Bulworth

Yeah, but, but but but, what about the 1890 birthyr person PBO is stealing from?! /

That’s just the tip of the iceberg. Obama is actually an immortal who simply changes names and SS#/identity numbers every so often. He has been living through the ages decapitating conservatives as opportunity allows.
////

278 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:50:26am

re: #269 dragonfire1981

re: #272 Sol Berdinowitz

But a minimum wage is unnecessary because companies always pay empoyees as much as they possibly can … .

279 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:51:15am

re: #273 darthstar

John McCain explains why he filibustered Hagel:

John McCain’s a petty little cocksucker, isn’t he? Jesus fucking christ…he’s blocking a defense secretary because he disagreed with Bush seven fucking years ago?

McCain is actually faulting Hagel is being a maverick in his own party? Chutzpah doesn’t begin to describe it.

Really though, it sounds like McCain’s just (as usual) nursing a grudge, this time over the fact that Hagel had the good sense to realize Iraq was a mistake.

280 geoffm33  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:52:02am

re: #273 darthstar

John McCain explains why he filibustered Hagel:

John McCain’s a petty little cocksucker, isn’t he? Jesus fucking christ…he’s blocking a defense secretary because he disagreed with Bush seven fucking years ago?

“It goes back to there’s a lot of ill will towards Senator Hagel because when he was a Republican, he attacked President Bush mercilessly and said he was the worst President since Herbert Hoover and said the surge was the worst blunder since the Vietnam War, which was nonsense. He was anti-his own party and people — people don’t forget that.”

Perhaps he meant to say “when he was a senator” and just misspoke, or he is just a douche. Occams razor says douche.

281 darthstar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:52:12am

re: #275 Sol Berdinowitz

Petty people don’t forget slights

Imagine having that fucker as President. We’d bomb Canada because their medical system makes ours look bad.

282 Eclectic Cyborg (formerly dragonfire1981)  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:53:27am

re: #272 Sol Berdinowitz

Scott Adams relates an anecdote in a book about a company whoe employees were required to put in an hour of unpaid overtime per day. An employee got back from twoo week’s vacation and was approached by the HR director and told that he owed 10 hours of overtime for the two weeks he was away…

Scott Adams as in “Dilbert” Scott Adams?

Also, isn’t that illegal?

283 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:54:39am

re: #273 darthstar

John McCain explains why he filibustered Hagel:

John McCain’s a petty little cocksucker, isn’t he? Jesus fucking christ…he’s blocking a defense secretary because he disagreed with Bush seven fucking years ago?

John McCain as the spokesperson for “party uber alles”. More and more I think the 2000 “maverick” McCain was just a put-on. Then again, the leopard has bleached his spots more than once. (Keating 5 and all that.)

284 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:55:02am

re: #282 dragonfire1981

Scott Adams as in “Dilbert” Scott Adams?

Also, isn’t that illegal?

Yeah, the “Dilbert” douche. I don’t know if it’s true, but probably not illegal if you’re salaried professional, not hourly.

285 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:56:53am

re: #280 geoffm33

Yeah, I’m pretty sure Hagel’s still a Republican. Although we may be fast approaching the day when the Republican Party no longer exists even in name, having been replaced by the Tea Party as the wingnut party label on the ballot.

286 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:57:29am

re: #284 Vicious Babushka

Yeah, the “Dilbert” douche. I don’t know if it’s true, but probably not illegal if you’re salaried professional, not hourly.

If you’re salaried it’s not really overtime though, is it?

Though if I was working for a company on salary and they were tracking hours that diligently compared to work and tasks completed I would be wary about their basis of measure for effective work.

287 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 7:58:20am

re: #282 dragonfire1981

Scott Adams as in “Dilbert” Scott Adams?

Also, isn’t that illegal?

Yes, and sometimes.

The nasty thing about “salary” is that it doesn’t get the same protections hourly workers get.

No, let me use correct terminology. Exempt [from overtime] employees can indeed be tagged for additional hours without pay for which non-exempt employees get paid extra.

A lot of nasty fighting, abuse, and gamesmanship goes on in declaring employees exempt from overtime.

288 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:00:49am

re: #150 Vicious Babushka

#Carnival Triumph passengers finally on land, but some are stranded again.@fox5kpratt reports the bus they were put on broke down.
— FOX 5 Atlanta (@FOX5Atlanta) February 15, 2013

Bummer. They must be saying ‘When am I gonna get home?’

289 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:01:30am

re: #287 kirkspencer

Meant to include… one of the most basic tests is whether the employee is paid by the hour. One of the most frequent places where companies get hammered is related to their tracking of hours. If you have to punch a clock and you can get punished for leaving fifteen minutes early or taking a little extra for lunch, your company might be eligible for an NLRB wake-up call. Please notice the word “might” in there.

290 Gus  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:02:22am

So one broken down bus equal 1000s of stranded passengers and crew? That must be one big ass bus. :P

291 Eclectic Cyborg (formerly dragonfire1981)  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:02:33am

re: #288 NJDhockeyfan

Bummer. They must be saying ‘When am I gonna get home?’

Thank you for choosing the Murphy’s Law cruise package…

292 CuriousLurker  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:03:49am

OT drive-by: If you enjoy political cartoons, check out illustrator Victor Juhasz (warning a couple of them are NSFW and he spares no one).

293 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:06:12am

Egypt seizes 2 tons of explosives headed to Sinai

Egyptian security officials say they have seized two tons of explosives headed to the Sinai Peninsula from Cairo.

They say the explosives were seized Saturday in the main Suez Canal transport tunnel that links Egypt to the Sinai.

The truck driver is being questioned.

294 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:06:40am

re: #286 Feline Fearless Leader

If you’re salaried it’s not really overtime though, is it?

Though if I was working for a company on salary and they were tracking hours that diligently compared to work and tasks completed I would be wary about their basis of measure for effective work.

I’ve worked for some companies that were very into agile/scrum and micro-tracking every nano-second spent on which project, and project-tracking to within an inch of its life. That much effort going into micro-managing is actually detrimental to productivity, IMO because you end up spending more time on PROJECT MANAGEMENT than on the actual PROJECT. Duh.

295 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:09:11am

re: #282 dragonfire1981

Scott Adams as in “Dilbert” Scott Adams?

Also, isn’t that illegal?

The Dilbert guy, yes. What is legal and what HD people will try to get away with are different worlds.

296 Eclectic Cyborg (formerly dragonfire1981)  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:09:18am

re: #294 Vicious Babushka

I’ve worked for some companies that were very into agile/scrum and micro-tracking every nano-second spent on which project, and project-tracking to within an inch of its life. That much effort going into micro-managing is actually detrimental to productivity, IMO because you end up spending more time on PROJECT MANAGEMENT than on the actual PROJECT. Duh.

Well, we have to find something for the so-called Project Managers to do, don’t we?

297 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:09:46am

There should be a hashtag TROT (Top Racists on Twitter) for assholes like this guy.

298 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:10:10am

re: #294 Vicious Babushka

I’ve worked for some companies that were very into agile/scrum and micro-tracking every nano-second spent on which project, and project-tracking to within an inch of its life. That much effort going into micro-managing is actually detrimental to productivity, IMO because you end up spending more time on PROJECT MANAGEMENT than on the actual PROJECT. Duh.

I’ve seen that as well. More time spent on overhead than necessary - and it detracts from getting the project done on time and on budget. That is largely where the value of middle management lies - hitting that balance of control and oversight that gets productive work done and maintains good morale in the workforce.

299 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:12:02am

re: #296 dragonfire1981

Well, we have to find something for the so-called Project Managers to do, don’t we?

Yeah but when project managers start pestering the SE’s for micro-tracking of 15-minute intervals which they can then load into their giant Visio chart, that’s time spent NOT WORKING ON THE ACTUAL PROJECT.

300 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:12:54am

re: #273 darthstar

He’s a vindictive old fart and a relic of a purposefully forgotten past. He thinks he’s still fighting the Vietnam War and every grudge he has is a VC.

I once had a modicum of respect for the man. Now I want to crack him in his jaw.

301 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:13:20am

re: #280 geoffm33

Perhaps he meant to say “when he was a senator” and just misspoke, or he is just a douche. Occams razor says douche.

That’s an interesting gaffe to make (if it was a gaffe).

302 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:14:49am

I still hold a grudge against McCain for mainstreaming the crazy.

303 Gus  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:15:18am

“Russian meteor.”

Derp.

304 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:15:31am

re: #302 dragonath

I still hold a grudge against McCain for mainstreaming the crazy.

He was one of many party leders who let it go unchallenged for so long that it became its own reality.

305 Gus  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:16:59am

Noun, verb, wingnuts!!

306 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:17:44am

re: #299 Vicious Babushka

Yeah but when project managers start pestering the SE’s for micro-tracking of 15-minute intervals which they can then load into their giant Visio chart, that’s time spent NOT WORKING ON THE ACTUAL PROJECT.

I’ve been blessed to have never been put on a project team attempting to do that. Then again, I’ve always been on a team in terms of split time; e.g. 50% of my hours are for the project and the rest is still supporting other tasks. And the split has to be flexible to some extent since firefighting on the non-project side is not something that can be predictable in terms of when it happens and how long it takes to fix.

And I always worked in particular areas in the project flow. So I would have a pile of work early on, it would ease off, and then a big pile would appear again right before go-live. With a bunch of variable time troubleshooting going on as well as issues arose.

307 Eclectic Cyborg (formerly dragonfire1981)  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:19:27am

re: #303 Gus

“Russian meteor.”

Derp.

Communist Comets!

308 geoffm33  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:19:58am

re: #307 dragonfire1981

COMEETS!

309 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:20:53am

CHEMTRAILS!!!!!

310 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:24:29am

The Russian meteorite situation just allows me to dust off one from the music video vaults.

311 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:31:54am

What right wing racism?

Link goes to some nutter site called “Creeping Sharia .com”. Yes, it’s about as racist and unhinged as you might expect.

312 Slap  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:33:13am

re: #274 makeitstop

RIP, Shadow Morton.

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Ditto!

313 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:33:24am

re: #302 dragonath

I still hold a grudge against McCain for mainstreaming the crazy.

I will never forgive him for foisting Sarah Palin on the rest of us.

I don’t give a damn what his reasons were for choosing her. The fact that we got stuck with her and that her kind of batshit cray cray became normal GOP talking points is inexcusable.

314 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:33:24am

Here’s a highly nuanced criticism of the drone debate

Hate Obama’s Drone War?
Blame the bleeding-heart human rights crusaders.

human rights norms have done as much to erode traditional ideas of sovereignty as have more U.S.-centric theories of counterterrorism. In fact, for all their criticism of U.S. drone policy, those in the human rights community often embrace a theory of sovereignty remarkably similar to the theory that undergirds current U.S. counterterrorism policy.

In essence, both the human rights community and the U.S. counterterrorism community increasingly view sovereignty — and the accompanying right to be free of foreign intervention — as a privilege states can earn or lose, rather than an inherent right of statehood.
….
In many ways, the big international law story of the last 70 years has been the erosion of traditional legal ideas of sovereignty. This has been driven in part by technological change and globalization: It’s one thing to embrace the principle of non-intervention when events in one state are unlikely to affect events in other states, but another thing altogether in an era in which money, viruses, chemical pollutants, and missiles can move across state borders in hours or minutes, rather than weeks or months. But international law’s embrace of human rights also represents a deep challenge to sovereignty, reflecting a shift away from the notion that what a state does inside its own borders is solely its own concern.

315 erik_t  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:34:34am

re: #311 Lidane

What right wing racism?

@wmathison OP: Minneapolis High School Locked Down After Muslims & Blacks Brawl http://dlvr.it/2y64RQ #tcot #TGDN

Let’s go to the actual story!

A cafeteria fight at Minneapolis South High School escalated into a melee involving hundreds of students Thursday, spurred by what parents and students said are growing racial tensions between Somali-American students and others.

While school district leaders said they didn’t know what sparked the fights, students such as Adnan Farah said they were the culmination of increasing racial tensions.

“This school is not safe for Somali students,” said Farah, a junior. “Throughout this year, there have been a lot of fights.”

Senior Guled Omar said he and other Somali-American students feel targeted at the school. “I don’t know if it’s because we’re minorities or the newest immigrant group,” he said.

Omar said that students have complained to the school district and principal about perceived discrimination, but that nothing has been done.

Ah. So “Muslims and blacks brawl” = “people who are both Muslim and black brawl with whites due to perceived racism on the part of the latter”

My shock. Let me show it to you.

316 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:35:11am

re: #311 Lidane

What right wing racism?

Link goes to some nutter site called “Creeping Sharia .com”. Yes, it’s about as racist and unhinged as you might expect.

Here’s the story from the Minneapolis Star Tribune.

Food fight erupts into melee at Minneapolis South High School

A cafeteria fight at Minneapolis South High School escalated into a melee involving hundreds of students Thursday, spurred by what parents and students said are growing racial tensions between Somali-American students and others.

Police said that 200 to 300 students shoved, kicked and threw bottles at one other and that extra Minneapolis police officers were called in to break up the fighting. Three students and one staff member were taken to a hospital for medical treatment, and police said rioting and disorderly conduct charges could be filed.

“We’re very fortunate no one got seriously injured,” said police spokesman Sgt. William Palmer, adding that in 19 years, “I honestly can’t recall a [similar] situation of this magnitude.”

While school district leaders said they didn’t know what sparked the fights, students such as Adnan Farah said they were the culmination of increasing racial tensions.

“This school is not safe for Somali students,” said Farah, a junior. “Throughout this year, there have been a lot of fights.”

Senior Guled Omar said he and other Somali-American students feel targeted at the school. “I don’t know if it’s because we’re minorities or the newest immigrant group,” he said.

Omar said that students have complained to the school district and principal about perceived discrimination, but that nothing has been done.

School district spokesman Stan Alleyne said he couldn’t comment on the students’ claims, but added that the district takes any complaints about racism seriously. “It is a safe school,” he said. Principal Cecilia Saddler did not reply to messages to comment.

Officials briefly considered canceling Friday classes, but decided instead to hold school, with some restrictions. Students will remain in their classrooms during class periods and access to the building will be limited.

“We are comfortable with the security measures that we currently have in place and we look forward to providing a normal instructional day,” the school said on its website.

317 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:36:47am

re: #315 erik_t

Beat me by a 37 seconds!

GMTA

318 iossarian  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:40:35am

re: #314 Killgore Trout

Here’s a highly nuanced criticism of the drone debate

Hate Obama’s Drone War?
Blame the bleeding-heart human rights crusaders.

Bullshit. Saying that efforts to prosecute people for human rights abuses across borders has opened the door the US to commit human rights abuses across borders is like saying that protecting national sovereignty (a right-wing wet dream) would enable the US to commit human rights abuses domestically with impunity.

Ergo, if you are in favor of national sovereignty, you are a totalitarian despot.

It’s a childish attempt, once again, to blame those pesky left-ish pro-human-rights people (they make me feel guilty so I must blame them for something!) for the stuff that right-wing warmongers do.

319 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:41:18am

I ask myself that question every time I read TGDN.

320 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:42:14am

re: #319 Lidane

I ask myself that question every time I read TGDN.

You are addicted. Admit it. It’s like watching a car crash on the other side of the highway.

321 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:42:14am

re: #314 Killgore Trout

You have a very strange definition of nuance.

322 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:43:21am

re: #320 Vicious Babushka

You are addicted. Admit it. It’s like watching a car crash on the other side of the highway.

It’s a first-hand glimpse into the RWNJ asylum. I’m both fascinated and disturbed by it.

323 iossarian  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:43:37am

Something bad going on?

Blame the left!

Where’s my think-tank paycheck?

324 Gus  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:43:58am

re: #310 lawhawk

The Russian meteorite situation just allows me to dust off one from the music video vaults.

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Drones.

325 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:46:10am

re: #323 iossarian

Something bad going on?

Blame the left!

Where’s my think-tank paycheck?

You know what comes to mind. Individual mandate. Heritage Foundation pimps idea for years to no avail. GOP pushes it as a way to improve health care delivery for years.

Obama takes individual and makes it central portion of PPACA as he knows single payer would never have chance of passage.

Right wing freaks out and complains that the very idea they pushed for years is now somehow unconstitutional. Moreover, they get some judges to agree with this notion and it goes to the Supreme Court, where they rule that it’s indeed constitutional but not on the assumed grounds but rather taxing power.

Nutty doesn’t begin to describe the alt-verse that the right’s been living in.

326 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:46:16am

Forcing your students to use factual sources instead of Faux News? Tyranny!

327 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:47:04am

re: #321 Lidane

You have a very strange definition of nuance.

Did you read the article?

I had the same reaction when I saw KT’s post. But I noticed it was a) Foreign Policy and b) Rosa Brooks. While the former leans right, Ms. Brooks does not as a rule.

Interesting read. Not as cut and dried as KT implies by his brief remark, and the article itself doesn’t lay the blame wholly on those pesky liberals, but the point is there. (as are several worthwhile points to consider.)

328 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:47:40am

re: #321 Lidane

You should read the whole thing

By the late 1990s, the principle of non-intervention had come under sustained assault by the human rights community. The Balkan wars and the Rwandan genocide had demonstrated that non-intervention could carry a heavy moral price tag, and in 1998, when reports of Serbian “ethnic cleansing” in Kosovo began to emerge, human rights advocates urged the international community to take action to prevent a possible new genocide.

Commenting on the tensions between sovereignty and human rights, then-U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan asserted in 1999, “State sovereignty, in its most basic sense, is being redefined — not least by the forces of globalization and international cooperation. States are now widely understood to be instruments at the service of their peoples, and not vice versa….When we read the [U.N.] Charter today, we are more than ever conscious that its aim is to protect individual human beings, not to protect those who abuse them. The genocide in Rwanda showed us how terrible the con­sequences of inaction can be….But this year’s conflict in Kosovo raised equally important ques­tions.”

Those questions — initially framed mainly as questions about the legality of “humanitarian intervention” — were soon recast as questions about the rights and duties of sovereignty. In 2001 — within months of the 9/11 attacks — the International Commission on Intervention and State Sovereignty released a report asserting that the most fundamental duty of sovereign states was the protection of their populations. “State sovereignty implies respon­sibility….Where a population is suffering serious harm, as a result of internal war, insurgency, repression or state failure, and the state in question is unwill­ing or unable to halt or avert it, the principle of non-interven­tion yields to the international responsibility to protect.”

It’s a train of thought I hadn’t heard before. The argument is not without merit.

329 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:48:58am
330 darthstar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:49:18am

This morning’s Banjo beach shot.

Image: 35491_10151453503038024_950325811_n.jpg

331 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:49:32am

re: #327 kirkspencer

Did you read the article?

I had the same reaction when I saw KT’s post. But I noticed it was a) Foreign Policy and b) Rosa Brooks. While the former leans right, Ms. Brooks does not as a rule.

Interesting read. Not as cut and dried as KT implies by his brief remark, and the article itself doesn’t lay the blame wholly on those pesky liberals, but the point is there. (as are several worthwhile points to consider.)

Of course people mostly just look for buzzwords seeking something simple to be outraged about.

332 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:50:17am

re: #315 erik_t

Let’s go to the actual story!

Ah. So “Muslims and blacks brawl” = “people who are both Muslim and black brawl with whites due to perceived racism on the part of the latter”

My shock. Let me show it to you.

I’m still confused. Sounds like all the students were brawling.

333 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:50:39am

re: #331 Killgore Trout

Of course people mostly just look for buzzwords seeking something simple to be outraged about.

That’s hilarious and ironic coming from you.

334 Gus  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:53:02am

Rosa Brooks would probably make the bottom ten here.

//

335 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:53:59am

DERP

336 Gus  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:54:02am

Heck. I bet Obama would make the bottom ten here sometimes.

337 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:54:51am

re: #334 Gus

Rosa Brooks would probably make the bottom ten here.

//

No sarc tag needed. Obama himself would be run off as a wingnut Tea Partier.

338 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:55:26am

re: #336 Gus

Heck. I bet Obama would make the bottom ten here sometimes.

Heh. We bumped heads on that one.

339 erik_t  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:55:35am

re: #332 FemNaziBitch

I’m still confused. Sounds like all the students were brawling.

They were. “Blacks and Muslims brawl” implies that this was a problem confined to the, ah… lessers.

It is technically correct but dramatically misleading.

340 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:55:51am

Hey Bryan, if those 16 million abortions never happened, you would be complaining about “welfare leeches” and “food stamp cheats.”

341 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:55:56am
342 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:56:59am

Elizabeth Warren Kicks Ass:

343 iossarian  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:57:37am

re: #331 Killgore Trout

Of course people mostly just look for buzzwords seeking something simple to be outraged about.

That’s just silly. As Lidane is also surely referring to, you summarized the article as:

re: #314 Killgore Trout

Hate Obama’s Drone War?
Blame the bleeding-heart human rights crusaders.

Projection much?

By the way, the argument is still facile. The fact that the US has perverted the idea of “protecting its people” to “waging war without provocation on fabricated evidence” does not mean that attempting to prosecute leaders internationally for violations of actual human rights isn’t worthwhile.

344 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:57:43am

Barack Obama is many things, but no one here would confuse him for a Tea Party type or a wingnut.

345 Mattand  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:58:14am

re: #337 Killgore Trout

No sarc tag needed. Obama himself would be run off as a wingnut Tea Partier.

Right. Because if there’s a perfect definition of far left radicalism, it’s Little Green Footballs and its readership.

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346 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:58:44am

WTF?

347 iossarian  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 8:59:22am

re: #344 Lidane

Barack Obama is many things, but no one here would confuse him for a Tea Party type or a wingnut.

Once again, the fact that Obama does things that I or other people view as morally reprehensible does not take away from the fact that he is a kajillion times better than anything the GOP has thrown up in the past 20 years.

348 Mattand  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:00:31am

re: #347 iossarian

Once again, the fact that Obama does things that I or other people view as morally reprehensible does not take away from the fact that he is a kajillion times better than anything the GOP has thrown up in the past 20 years.

LOL, describes their vetting/nominating process to a T.

349 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:01:47am

re: #339 erik_t

They were. “Blacks and Muslims brawl” implies that this was a problem confined to the, ah… lessers.

It is technically correct but dramatically misleading.

Sounds like the student body had a food fight —for whatever reasons kids have food fights …

350 Gus  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:02:05am

re: #338 Killgore Trout

Heh. We bumped heads on that one.

He did call for more drilling of oil and gas to combat climate change in the SOTU. Imagine making a comment like that? Of course that could mean people would just nod in agreement.

351 iossarian  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:02:06am

re: #337 Killgore Trout

No sarc tag needed. Obama himself would be run off as a wingnut Tea Partier.

I understand that you desperately want this to be true.

352 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:02:48am

re: #343 iossarian

That’s just silly. As Lidane is also surely referring to, you summarized the article as:

re: #314 Killgore Trout

Projection much?

By the way, the argument is still facile. The fact that the US has perverted the idea of “protecting its people” to “waging war without provocation on fabricated evidence” does not mean that attempting to prosecute leaders internationally for violations of actual human rights isn’t worthwhile.

FWIW, the article doesn’t say that. Nor, as far as I can see, did KT.

In fact Ms. Brooks says she thinks that prosecution of leaders, of violation of sovereignty for protection, is on the whole a good thing.

The basic point she’s making is that it appears the powers of sovereignty are in the process of being minimized if not eliminated, and wonders what we (the world) are going to put in place. That she used a provocative sub-title, and justifies it by noting the first processes of ignoring sovereignty for situations other than war were driven by humanitarian objectives, is secondary.

353 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:03:24am

re: #347 iossarian

Once again, the fact that Obama does things that I or other people view as morally reprehensible does not take away from the fact that he is a kajillion times better than anything the GOP has thrown up in the past 20 years.

Are these the same people that think being black is morally reprehensible?

Really, what has he done that falls under that category?

354 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:04:04am

Troops seize 275kg of drugs near Israel-Egypt border

The Border Guard foiled a large drug smuggling operation on the Israel-Egypt border Thursday night, as part of the military’s ongoing fight against drug trafficking in the area.

According to a statement by the Border Guard Command, troops patrolling in the area spotted two suspects trying to cross the border fence.

…Both suspects are local Bedouins known to the police. The man who was arrested was remanded to the Southern District Police’s custody.

The search of the vehicle turned up 275kg of marijuana, with an estimated street value of over NIS 1 million (roughly $270,000).

The last drug shipment seized by the border included 21kg of heroin.

Border Guard Commander Amos Yaakov lauded the troops’ resolve and professionalism.

355 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:05:00am

re: #350 Gus

people would just SAGELY nod in agreement.

while thoughtfully tugging on their beards!!

(it’s all about the visual!!)

356 Gus  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:08:23am

re: #355 sattv4u2


people would just SAGELY nod in agreement.

while thoughtfully tugging on their beards!!

(it’s all about the visual!!)

He said that too. I was right there watching and listening as he closed that segment by using Rudolph Giuliani’s line of the “all of the above approach.” I was hoping Freetoken was around but he was not. Sort of like the auto industry convention. Whee! Not that I’m freaking out about any of it.

357 iossarian  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:08:39am

re: #352 kirkspencer

FWIW, the article doesn’t say that. Nor, as far as I can see, did KT.

In fact Ms. Brooks says she thinks that prosecution of leaders, of violation of sovereignty for protection, is on the whole a good thing.

The basic point she’s making is that it appears the powers of sovereignty are in the process of being minimized if not eliminated, and wonders what we (the world) are going to put in place. That she used a provocative sub-title, and justifies it by noting the first processes of ignoring sovereignty for situations other than war were driven by humanitarian objectives, is secondary.

I can’t read the article in full because it’s requiring a login that I don’t really want to provide. But if the author (or editor) is going to slap a needlessly provocative subtitle on the article, then they’re going to have a hard time getting me to accept that it’s anything beyond a grade-level analysis.

Once again, I think it’s obtuse to the point of willfulness to claim that, because human rights campaigners have pushed for cross-border prosecution of the leaders of abusing movements, we can blame those campaigners for the US practice of dressing up unprovoked assaults as self-defense on the basis of fraudulent evidence.

358 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:10:02am

re: #354 NJDhockeyfan

Troops seize 275kg of drugs near Israel-Egypt border

The search of the vehicle turned up 275kg of marijuana, with an estimated street value of over NIS 1 million (roughly $270,000).

The last drug shipment seized by the border included 21kg of heroin.

Border Guard Commander Amos Yaakov lauded the troops’ resolve and professionalism. He also said they would be throwing one hell of a party later.

359 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:10:48am

re: #336 Gus
re: #338 Killgore Trout

Heh. We bumped heads on that one.

Were you in the shower??

NTTAWWT!!!
/

360 Gus  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:10:54am

Taliban and Al Qaeda. AKA Land Kittens.

//

361 Mattand  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:11:26am

re: #218 lawhawk

Tim Tebow, the Jets benchwarmer and one time hero to Denver Broncos fans, makes no secret of his religious beliefs. He’s gone and spoken at mega churches and other big religious gatherings before, but a planned speech at a church in Dallas should raise eyebrows.

The church is headed up by Dr. Robert Jeffress. Jeffress has made one controversial comment after another. He’s on the record saying gays shouldn’t be allowed in the military because 70% have AIDS; Islam, Mormonism and Judaism came “from the pit of hell”; Obama’s reelection “would lead to a rise of the Antichrist”; and gay activists have been attempting to conceal “the link between homosexuality and pedophilia.”

Rick Perry also got into hot water when Jeffress introduced him during Perry’s abortive campaign for the GOP nomination for president in 2011, claiming that Mormonism is a cult. He later went on to endorse Romney over Obama because he thought Obama opposed biblical principals.

Nutty doesn’t begin to touch on his belief system. Tebow shouldn’t be going within 10 miles of the guy, and yet he’s going to do so.

And people around here were pissed when the Eagles signed Andy Reid. Yeesh.

EDIT: “Around here” being my geographic locale, not LGF.

362 Gus  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:12:44am

Now I await the MBF of comparing the Taliban to Republicans.

363 CarleeCork  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:14:14am

re: #346 Vicious Babushka

WTF?

Did you read the part about normal kids set cats on fire? WTF indeed.

364 iossarian  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:14:17am

re: #360 Gus

Taliban and Al Qaeda. AKA Land Kittens.

//

We must defend ourselves from the terrible threat of yellowcake uranium from Nigeria!

Seriously, foreign policy is complicated. Attempting to reduce it to “we have to kill the terrorists before they kill us” is, well, exactly what the defense industry wants us to do.

The number of US citizens who have suffered as a result of international terrorism in the past 50 years, when viewed in the general context of inter- and intra-national war and strife, is laughably small.

365 Mattand  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:14:34am

re: #362 Gus

Now I await the MBF of comparing the Taliban to Republicans.

I dunno; both groups are driven by radical religious philosophy, xenophobia, misogyny and a marked detachement from reality.

Is it really MBF?

366 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:14:43am
367 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:14:46am

re: #362 Gus

Now I await the MBF of comparing the Taliban to Republicans.

They both hate women/jews/kids/ice cream/puppies/

368 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:14:52am

re: #357 iossarian

I can’t read the article in full because it’s requiring a login that I don’t really want to provide. But if the author (or editor) is going to slap a needlessly provocative subtitle on the article, then they’re going to have a hard time getting me to accept that it’s anything beyond a grade-level analysis.

Once again, I think it’s obtuse to the point of willfulness to claim that, because human rights campaigners have pushed for cross-border prosecution of the leaders of abusing movements, we can blame those campaigners for the US practice of dressing up unprovoked assaults as self-defense on the basis of fraudulent evidence.

I can’t decide which of several remarks to make. re provocative subtitles, do you read the subtitles on the pages here at LGF?

Do you realize you’re still arguing with an article you haven’t read? That either you’re doing classic a strawman or you’re arguing with the voices in your head, because what you’re objecting to is not in the article?

369 Gus  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:15:01am

re: #364 iossarian

We must defend ourselves from the terrible threat of yellowcake uranium from Nigeria!

Seriously, foreign policy is complicated. Attempting to reduce it to “we have to kill the terrorists before they kill us” is, well, exactly what the defense industry wants us to do.

The number of US citizens who have suffered as a result of international terrorism in the past 50 years, when viewed in the general context of inter- and intra-national war and strife, is laughably small.

What can I say. I’m not one of those people that see Bush and Cheney as war criminals.

370 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:15:27am

re: #346 Vicious Babushka

WTF?

OK, well that takes the consequences for bulling in Jr High to a whole new level … .

371 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:15:36am

re: #369 Gus

What can I say. I’m not one of those people that see Bush and Cheney as war criminals.

You RWNJ you !!!!

372 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:16:26am

re: #366 Lidane

Vengeance thy name is Projection …

373 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:16:32am

re: #368 kirkspencer

Yeah, but ,,But,, KT posted it, so neener neener !!
{sigh}

374 Gus  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:16:37am

re: #371 sattv4u2

You RWNJ you !!!!

The Iraq War was based on a lie therefore all counter-terrorist arguments are invalid!!

//

375 iossarian  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:17:05am

re: #368 kirkspencer

Do you realize you’re still arguing with an article you haven’t read? That either you’re doing classic a strawman or you’re arguing with the voices in your head, because what you’re objecting to is not in the article?

Please explain to me how we can “blame the bleeding-heart human rights crusaders” for Obama’s drone war. If it’s in the article and it makes sense, I’d love to hear it.

If not, the author and/or sub editor are trolling, which is sad, and not really worth the time to pay attention to.

376 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:17:18am
377 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:17:20am

re: #367 sattv4u2

The both hate women/jews/kids/ice cream/puppies/

you forgot apple pie and chevrolet

378 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:17:53am

The wingnut tears will be so delicious.

379 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:18:31am

re: #377 FemNaziBitch

you forgot apple pie and chevrolet

Couldn’t include it

I think the night before 9/11 Atta had apple pie and they rented a Chevy to get to the airport!!
//

380 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:18:41am
381 erik_t  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:19:56am

re: #376 Vicious Babushka

The #TRUTH hash is my new very favorite. These people honestly and truly believe in magic words.

Cargo cult.

382 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:21:06am

“Honey. The bad news is I’m going to jail. The good news is you don’t have to come visit. You’ll be IN there with me!!! Happy Valentines Day!!”

[Link: chicago.cbslocal.com…]

Formal charges against Jesse Jackson Jr. could be filed as soon as Friday and Tuesday at the latest. His plea has also implicated his wife, leading to tax fraud charges against her.

383 iossarian  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:21:38am

re: #374 Gus

The Iraq War was based on a lie therefore all counter-terrorist arguments are invalid!!

//

Again, if this is what passes for “nuance” in foreign policy analysis, I’m not seeing it.

I know people who’ve worked in the Pakistani tribal areas. It’s a fucking tragedy going on there, on both sides. But dropping bombs on people rarely solves problems long term in these kinds of situations (see the Philippines for the latest example of how peace may or may not come about).

Finally, people who trot out the “national security” argument need to explain why they trust the same people who lied to them about Iraq, to give them the truth on this occasion.

384 Bear  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:22:08am

NASA tv has picts of asteroid. [Link: www.ustream.tv…]

385 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:22:34am

Favorite song of the week:

Never been lonely
Never been lied to
Never had to scuffle in fear
Nothing denied to
Born at the instant
The church bells chime
And the whole world whispering
Born at the right time

386 geoffm33  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:23:06am

re: #376 Vicious Babushka

Refresh my memory, what is the #p2 hashtag for?

387 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:24:22am

re: #375 iossarian

Please explain to me how we can “blame the bleeding-heart human rights crusaders” for Obama’s drone war. If it’s in the article and it makes sense, I’d love to hear it.

If not, the author and/or sub editor are trolling, which is sad, and not really worth the time to pay attention to.

simplistically summarizing:

The force projection justification used for drones parallels the language of the Responsibility to Protect and neuters the understanding of “other states’ sovereignty”. That language was created in the UN and used for interventions, which included use of force interventions, in numerous cases. It allows for (and arguably encourages) intervention in nations unwilling or unable to act.

A critical passage snipped from the article goes:

By the late 1990s, the principle of non-intervention had come under sustained assault by the human rights community. The Balkan wars and the Rwandan genocide had demonstrated that non-intervention could carry a heavy moral price tag, and in 1998, when reports of Serbian “ethnic cleansing” in Kosovo began to emerge, human rights advocates urged the international community to take action to prevent a possible new genocide.

The United States and other NATO members responded with an aerial bombing campaign against Serbian targets within the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (as it was still then called). This military action was not authorized by the Security Council, and NATO could make no plausible claim relating to state consent or self-defense. As a result, many international law experts viewed the Kosovo intervention as illegal — or, at best, “extra-legal.” Nevertheless, it was generally viewed as morally legitimate, and it received what amounted to retrospective endorsement in later Security Council resolutions.

388 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:24:33am

re: #381 erik_t

The #TRUTH hash is my new very favorite. These people honestly and truly believe in magic words.

Cargo cult.

BeetleJuice!

389 Gus  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:25:53am

re: #365 Mattand

I dunno; both groups are driven by radical religious philosophy, xenophobia, misogyny and a marked detachement from reality.

Is it really MBF?

So Republicans want to gun down young girls going to school on a regular basis? Republicans want to chop of the hands of thieves and execute a woman for complaining about being raped by her husband?

390 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:26:22am

re: #389 Gus

{sigh}

391 iossarian  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:27:19am

re: #387 kirkspencer

OK, so I read that argument as:

“Because human rights campaigners pushed for the use of force against leaders of abusing movements, irresponsible governments have been able to use the legal apparatus in place as cover for unprovoked assaults. Therefore, blame human rights campaigners for these unprovoked assaults.”

Is that about it?

392 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:27:45am

re: #389 Gus

So Republicans want to gun down young girls going to school on a regular basis? Republicans want to chop of the hands of thieves and execute a woman for complaining about being raped by her husband?

Money maker Idea

I could sell viles of acid to “republicans” so they can throw it in young girls faces on their way to school!!!
Yup,,, exactly alike!!


{sigh}

393 darthstar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:27:49am

re: #384 Bear

NASA tv has picts of asteroid. [Link: www.ustream.tv…]

That little fucker is moving!

394 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:28:25am

re: #389 Gus

So Republicans want to gun down young girls going to school on a regular basis? Republicans want to chop of the hands of thieves and execute a woman for complaining about being raped by her husband?

No, not with overt violence, but the goals are the same.

Subjugation of females and anyone they feel is inferior. They both have a script for how the world should be ordered and will work to see it enacted.

395 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:28:30am

re: #326 Lidane

West Liberty University political science Prof. Tells student they can’t use Fox News as source!

I am doing a report on solar energy in Germany…

396 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:28:40am

Chavez Using Breathing Tube as Venezuela Publishes Photos

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is using a breathing tube that makes it difficult for him to speak, Information Minister Ernesto Villegas said today as he released the first images of the cancer-stricken leader since Dec. 10.

Chavez, 58, was pictured in four photos broadcast on national television with two of his daughters at his bedside in Havana reading yesterday’s edition of Cuban newspaper Granma. The former paratrooper is conscious and has control of his “intellectual capacities,” Villegas said.

“A respiratory infection that arose after surgery has been controlled,” Villegas said. “A breathing insufficiency remains, and Chavez is using a tracheal tube which makes it difficult to speak.”

397 Gus  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:29:00am

re: #394 FemNaziBitch

No, not with overt violence, but the goals are the same.

Subjugation of females and anyone they feel is inferior. They both have a script for how the world should be ordered and will work to see it enacted.

The goals are the same? Really?

398 Gus  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:29:41am

Later. Whew.

399 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:30:05am

re: #380 NJDhockeyfan

Interesting…

A Chinese Hacker’s Identity Unmasked

That is kind of interesting. The article touches on some of the usual hacker forums but I’ve always wondered how much crossover there is with foreign government hackers and Anon. Maybe Anon is weak sauce compared with the government backed hackers but it seems to me that Anon could be a useful network for them.

400 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:30:20am

Oh, look. The John Birch Society legacy of anti-vax nuttiness rolls on:

401 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:30:21am

re: #397 Gus

The goals are the same? Really?

Dominionism?

Yeah, I think there is a small, but very determined group of Whackos™ that have hijacked the GOP who want a Christian Theocracy in the most primative terms.

402 iossarian  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:30:41am

re: #394 FemNaziBitch

No, not with overt violence, but the goals are the same.

Subjugation of females and anyone they feel is inferior. They both have a script for how the world should be ordered and will work to see it enacted.

Republicans want to reduce the amount of sex education and birth control available, thus reducing the advances that have been made in female education and protection in the past century.

Republicans are in favor of harsh penalties, including the death penalty, for criminal behavior.

Republicans are in favor of repealing legislation that protects the (mostly female) victims of domestic abuse.

403 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:31:13am

re: #397 Gus

The goals are the same? Really?

{{double sigh}}

I was just typing a response when I saw yours

I think I’ll go find something better to do for awhile!!

Maybe buy large swartch of fabric and cover up any female body parts I see exposed at the grocery store

404 darthstar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:31:32am

re: #389 Gus

So Republicans want to gun down young girls going to school on a regular basis? Republicans want to chop of the hands of thieves and execute a woman for complaining about being raped by her husband?

I believe they prefer to use gentler language than that, and instead of gunning down girls they just want to shame them into being homemakers, three strikes laws for criminals no matter how petty, and the bible says a woman should serve her master…so in a way, yes.

405 geoffm33  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:32:22am

Very OT:

I noticed a tweet today (baseball related, but my point is more general):

Where the reporter @’s the subject of his tweet. To me, the context of the tweet makes for a shitty @ reference. Like, “Orioles may need his services, they need to see how shitty their OF/DH is first.” The @ makes it show in Abreu’s @ stream.

Thoughts?

406 darthstar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:32:36am

re: #403 sattv4u2

{{double sigh}}

I was just typing a response when I saw yours

I think I’ll go find something better to do for awhile!!

Maybe buy large swartch of fabric and cover up any female body parts I see exposed at the grocery store

You only go to the grocery store to stare at the melons.

407 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:32:54am

re: #406 darthstar

You only go to the grocery store to stare at the melons.

Nahh. I’ve seen your head

408 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:33:42am

re: #404 darthstar

I believe they prefer to use gentler language than that, and instead of gunning down girls they just want to shame them into being homemakers, three strikes laws for criminals no matter how petty, and the bible says a woman should serve her master…so in a way, yes.

With the lack of respect for Science, and the amount of “exorcisms” we see in the news, I really wouldn’t be surprised to see some burnings at the stake.

There are some seriously whacked out people who seem to have political clout.

409 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:34:25am

re: #405 geoffm33

don’t know
don’t tweet
don’t care about the Orioles (unless they’re playing the Red Sox, and in that case, go Red Sox, or if they’re playing the Yankees and in that case, Go Orioles!!

410 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:34:44am

re: #393 darthstar

That little fucker is moving!

They’ve already put an estimated value on it.

Deep Space Industries says asteroid 2012 DA14 worth $195 billion

Prospective asteroid miners Deep Space Industries say asteroid 2012 DA14 set to brush past Earth on Friday may be worth $195 billion. An official of the company said the asteroid may harbor $65 billion of recoverable water and $130 billion in metals

Digital Journal reports that 2012 DA14 will brush past Earth on Friday at a distance of 17,200 miles (27,000 kilometers), making the closest approach to Earth by any body of its kind since astronomers began watching and keeping records.

Space.com reports that Deep Space Industries, however, admitted that the estimate of “$65 billion of recoverable water and $130 billion in metals” is just an optimistic guess because 2012 DA14’s composition has not been ascertained. Besides, its estimated size is based only on the rock’s brightness.

Deep Space’s optimistic “guess” has been disputed.

411 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:35:03am

re: #391 iossarian

OK, so I read that argument as:

“Because human rights campaigners pushed for the use of force against leaders of abusing movements, irresponsible governments have been able to use the legal apparatus in place as cover for unprovoked assaults. Therefore, blame human rights campaigners for these unprovoked assaults.”

Is that about it?

No. That last sentence should be, “Therefore, blame human rights campaigners for the mechanism by which these unprovoked assaults are justified.”

You seem to be straining at the subtitle. It seems to be provoking the same sort of behavior KT shows when “Occupy” is mentioned. I’m tired of defending an article you haven’t read, that I didn’t write, against attacks that claim it is saying what it doesn’t say.

It is an article that lays out the fact that sovereignty as we understand it is going away, that the primary cause of this is the humanitarian actions that allow intervention, and that the Bush and Obama administrations have been using the language underlying that to allow their drone actions. She concludes by wondering what we will wind up putting in place given this erosion of the principle of sovereignty.

That’s it. It uses a provocative sub-title for the same reason most people do so - as a tool to draw in readers, with a passing relation to accurate reflection of what’s in the article.

And the claim of the article, which has basis in truth whether liked or not, is that because the law has been weakened the actions are ‘legal’ — and the people who weakened those laws were not the war-mongers.

412 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:35:03am

When a homeschooling friend of mine says she didn’t join a homeschooling group because they demanded a signed pledge from the parents that they wouldn’t use the word “evolution” around their children —yes, I believe the Dominionists are out there.

413 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:37:50am

The circle is now complete. Herman Cain is now a Fox News contributor.

414 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:38:46am

The irony, it burns:

415 geoffm33  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:38:48am

re: #413 lawhawk

The circle is now complete. Herman Cain is now a Fox News contributor.

When Scott Brown joined I was wondering if they were moving in a (slightly) better direction. Then, this.

416 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:39:34am

re: #413 lawhawk

The circle is now complete. Herman Cain is now a Fox News contributor.

dump Sarah and pick-up Herman.

hmmmmm … .

417 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:41:04am

bbl

418 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:41:53am

re: #350 Gus

He did call for more drilling of oil and gas to combat climate change in the SOTU. Imagine making a comment like that? Of course that could mean people would just nod in agreement.

Um, hang on. That’s not what he said. Here’s the segment about oil and gas exploration:

Nowhere is the promise of innovation greater than in American-made energy. Over the last three years, we’ve opened millions of new acres for oil and gas exploration, and tonight, I’m directing my Administration to open more than 75 percent of our potential offshore oil and gas resources. Right now, American oil production is the highest that it’s been in eight years. That’s right – eight years. Not only that – last year, we relied less on foreign oil than in any of the past sixteen years.

But with only 2 percent of the world’s oil reserves, oil isn’t enough. This country needs an all-out, all-of-the-above strategy that develops every available source of American energy – a strategy that’s cleaner, cheaper, and full of new jobs.

We have a supply of natural gas that can last America nearly one hundred years, and my Administration will take every possible action to safely develop this energy. Experts believe this will support more than 600,000 jobs by the end of the decade. And I’m requiring all companies that drill for gas on public lands to disclose the chemicals they use. America will develop this resource without putting the health and safety of our citizens at risk.

This was about American energy policy, not about climate change specifically. And it’s definitely not just a “drill baby drill” approach.

419 makeitstop  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:43:56am

The Contrarian Claque seems to be growing.

420 CarleeCork  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:47:11am

re: #416 FemNaziBitch

dump Sarah and pick-up Herman.

hmmmmm … .

re: #416 FemNaziBitch

dump Sarah and pick-up Herman.

hmmmmm … .

The newest flavor of crazy.

421 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:48:38am

re: #386 geoffm33

Refresh my memory, what is the #p2 hashtag for?

It’s an old tag for progressives.

422 geoffm33  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:50:12am

re: #421 Vicious Babushka

ahhh thanks

423 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:50:28am

re: #350 Gus

He did call for more drilling of oil and gas to combat climate change in the SOTU. Imagine making a comment like that? Of course that could mean people would just nod in agreement.

That’s not what he said though. He said he’d use the revenues from drilling on federal land to promote alternative energy

424 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:50:52am

Wingnuts *HEART* this guy Ben Carson that they think delivered a beatdown to POTUS at the Prayer Breakfast last week. I can’t find any information about him other than at wingnut sites, and the video of the Prayer Breakfast is tl;dw

425 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:52:26am

Constitutional conservatism in action:

426 erik_t  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:53:41am

re: #425 Lidane

Constitutional conservatism in action:

The GOP clearly misses the time they could control the general direction of their party by quid pro quo deals in smokey back rooms.

I can’t say I blame them.

427 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:53:50am

From the fevered imagination of Max Blumenthal: How law enforcement and media covered up the plan to burn Christopher Dorner alive

“Burners,” or military grade incendiary grenades, are very likely among the items passed down from the U.S. army to local police outfits like the San Bernardino Sheriff’s Department. The “burner” of choice for the modern American soldier is the AN-M14 TH3. It is a hand held grenade comprised of a thermite mixture that rapidly converts to molten iron when it is thrown, burning at a temperature of 4,000 degrees Fahrenheit, hot enough to burn through a half inch steel plate or bring an engine block to a boil. It can also produce enough heat to set off unloaded ammunition, which would explain why the ammo inside Dorner’s hideout was popping.

If the San Bernardino Sheriffs employed the AN-M14 TH3 or something like it against Dorner – and it appears they did – they have good reason to attempt to cover their actions up. Without even a token attempt to establish communication with the suspect, who was, to be sure, a wanted killer hell-bent on murdering cops, they attacked him with what was likely a military grade weapon designed to destroy fortified structures. By burning Dorner alive, then misleading and deceiving the public about the operation, the sheriffs may have validated the rogue ex-cop’s sharpest indictments of the culture of American law enforcement.

428 iossarian  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:54:06am

re: #411 kirkspencer

That’s it. It uses a provocative sub-title for the same reason most people do so - as a tool to draw in readers, with a passing relation to accurate reflection of what’s in the article.

That’s fine. It seems we’re all in agreement that we can’t, in fact, “blame human rights campaigners for Obama’s drone war”, as much as some people would like to do so.

429 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:56:15am

Thermite!

430 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:58:38am

re: #412 FemNaziBitch

When a homeschooling friend of mine says she didn’t join a homeschooling group because they demanded a signed pledge from the parents that they wouldn’t use the word “evolution” around their children —yes, I believe the Dominionists are out there.

Almost ten years ago now, we had to homeschool our daughter for a while. There were several homeschooling groups around, but we wound up joining none of them as they were almost all of that flavor. Evolution, history, and a number of “soft” sciences were severely constrained. Oh, and there were works of literature that were forbidden - no SF and with certain exceptions no fantasy as an example.

Some of them had informal rules about what could be taught by gender. “Oh, we don’t do algebra for the girls till later. They’re not going to need it,” was one that sticks to my mind even now.

Yes, the dominionists are there and while they are not as bad as their middle eastern equivalents at this time it is not from lack of desire.

431 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:59:11am

I hope that doesn’t feed conspiracy theorists somehow…

432 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 9:59:34am

re: #426 erik_t

The GOP clearly misses the time they could control the general direction of their party by quid pro quo deals in smokey back rooms.

I can’t say I blame them.

Hah. True.

Still, the mess they’re in is their own damned fault. You can’t spend 40+ years openly appealing to the bigots and the ignorant then act surprised when they work their way into the mechanisms of power.

433 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 10:03:46am

TGDN retards can’t stop links to outright white supremacist sites (that probably originated with the openly white supremacist members) all the while claiming “libturds” are “the real racists”

Sorry but I’m not linking to it here.

434 JeffFX  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 10:05:17am

re: #430 kirkspencer

Oh, and there were works of literature that were forbidden - no SF and with certain exceptions no fantasy as an example.

That’s pretty smart. The really big ideas in SF were part of what broke my Catholic indoctrination.

435 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 10:05:40am

Anonymous dumps 600k accounts from popular Israeli site

A whopping 600,000 accounts appear to have been stolen in an Anonymous-affiliated hack of Walla!, Isreal’s eighth most frequented website.

Hackers dumped email addresses, password MD5 hashes and salts across 93 Pastebin posts.

Walla! has not confirmed the breach.

436 Mattand  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 10:06:07am

re: #400 Lidane

Oh, look. The John Birch Society legacy of anti-vax nuttiness rolls on:

I started getting flu shots again partly because of the all anti-vax nonsense that’s cropped up over the last 10 years.

The fact that far right loons are against it is just icing on the cake.

437 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 10:06:27am

re: #376 Vicious Babushka

The TRUTH hashtag is in ALL CAPS so we know whatever is being said must really be TRUE TRUTH.

438 Mattand  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 10:08:46am

re: #424 Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts *HEART* this guy Ben Carson that they think delivered a beatdown to POTUS at the Prayer Breakfast last week. I can’t find any information about him other than at wingnut sites, and the video of the Prayer Breakfast is tl;dw

Part of the “beatdown” meme springs from a Washington Times article that heavily quotes Twitchy.com.

That should pretty much tell all you need to know about that .

439 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 10:15:46am

re: #436 Mattand

I started getting flu shots again partly because of the all anti-vax nonsense that’s cropped up over the last 10 years.

The fact that far right loons are against it is just icing on the cake.

I got my first flu shot ever this year because so many of my co-workers and friends seemed to be getting sick, plus I’d gone to Vegas for CES and didn’t want to take any chances. I decided that a day or two of discomfort from the shot > ending up in the ER and with a script for Tamiflu.

I’ll probably end up getting any boosters and vaccines that are recommnded just because of all the anti-vax retards refusing to get shots for their kids.


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