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Fox News Finds the Perfect Replacement for Sarah Palin

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It can’t have been easy to find a right winger dense and jingoistic enough to fill the big clown shoes of the recently disenfranchised Sarah Palin, but Fox News has risen to the occasion and found someone sure to delight their wingnut audience: Herman Cain Joins Fox News as Contributor.

Fox News Channel has hired former Republican presidential candidate and Godfather’s Pizza CEO Herman Cain as a contributor. Cain will provide political and business analysis and commentary across FNC’s daytime and primetime programming, as well as on Fox Business Network.

“Cain’s impressive resume makes him a valuable addition to the FOX News and FOX Business lineup,” said EVP Bill Shine. “As a political expert with business savvy, he brings an important voice to the nation’s debates.” …

Cain added, “I’m excited about joining the FOX family as a contributor because it is an opportunity to be one more voice for intelligent thinking in America.”

As opposed to “dumb thinking.”

UPDATE at 2/15/13 11:04:21 am

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434 comments

1 BroncD  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:01:35am

“See, we’re not racist?!”

2 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:03:43am

Fox News: Now 999% more stupid.

3 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:04:36am
4 engineer cat  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:04:49am

because it is an opportunity to be one more voice for intelligent thinking

hearing him will definitely lead to more voices calling for intelligent thinking

5 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:04:55am
one more voice for intelligent thinking in America.

One more implies that they have more than one. Any clues as to who that might be?
/

6 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:04:59am

Imagine if they made a show out of JUST Palin and Cain?

7 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:05:36am

re: #6 stabby

Imagine if they made a show out of JUST Palin and Cain?

“He Derped, She Derped”

8 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:05:46am

re: #6 stabby

Imagine if they made a show out of JUST Palin and Cain?

Can they make it a buddy cop show?

9 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:06:25am

So, Palin’s now the one going Nein Nein Nein? /

10 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:06:55am

re: #6 stabby

Imagine if they made a show out of JUST Palin and Cain?

Word salad surgery.

11 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:07:54am

re: #7 Ghost of Tom Joad

“He Derped, She Derped”

Dumb and Dumber.

12 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:09:55am

re: #10 lawhawk

Gotta get on outa here!

13 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:09:58am

Secret donors funded media campaign against wind farms

Conservatives used a pair of secretive trusts to fund a media campaign against windfarms and solar projects, and to block state agencies from planning for future sea-level rise, the Guardian has learned.

The trusts, Donors Trust and Donors Capital Fund, served as the bankers of the conservative movement over the past decade. Promising anonymity to their conservative billionaire patrons, the trusts between them channelled nearly $120m to contrarian thinktanks and activists, wrecking the chances of getting Congress to act on climate change.

Now the Guardian can reveal the latest project of the secretive funding network: a campaign to stop state governments moving towards renewable energy.

14 jaunte  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:10:40am

re: #10 lawhawk

“Lost”

15 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:12:36am

Nugent conspiracy theory: ‘No so-called assault weapon used’ in Newtown

After attending the State of the Union address on Tuesday and hearing President Barack Obama’s call for gun control legislation, Nugent repeated the false claim in his Wednesday World Net Daily column.

“No so-called assault weapon was used in the grisly murders of the children and teachers in Newton, Conn,” Nugent wrote. “NBC has reported the butcher used four handguns.”

The Motor City Madman added: “[A]nd though we can all agree that anything reported by the networks and so much of the media should be disbelieved out of hand, even if the Bushmaster modern sporting rifle were used in the demonic slaughter of innocents, semi-automatics are not ‘assault weapons.’ Period.”

Nugent ignored that many other news outlets, including CNN, have correctly reported that Lanza took a Bushmaster AR-15 and two other weapons inside Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Connecticut State Police Lt. J. Paul Vance even held a press conference to debunk the rumors.

“It’s all these conspiracy theorists that are trying to mucky up the waters,” Vance said last month. “There’s no doubt that the rifle was used solely to kill 26 people in that school.”

As Media Matters noted on Friday, Nugent’s claim that the “AR-15 has more in common with a common .22 semi-automatic squirrel rifle than a military assault weapon” is also inaccurate.

16 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:13:16am

Fox’s new expert on foreign policy:

17 TedStriker  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:13:33am

Shocka!

18 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:14:18am

If you slow down the sonic boom from the asteroid, you can hear God laughing

19 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:14:29am
20 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:14:34am

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Just don’t play his interviews with John Oliver on The Daily Show. They’re SOOOO painful.

21 Tigger2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:15:46am

And Jindal wants the party to get rid of the stupid, well Fox is the Republican Party.

22 thecommodore  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:16:32am

re: #5 Kragar (Antichrist )

One more implies that they have more than one. Any clues as to who that might be?
/

Well there is Shep Smith…

23 Eclectic Cyborg (formerly dragonfire1981)  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:16:52am
Unconfirmed reports say Fox initially offered Cain a salary of $75 000, but Cain later requested it be amended to $74 999.

No explanation was given.

24 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:16:59am

re: #18 dragonath

If you slow down the sonic boom from the asteroid, you can hear God laughing

If you play it backwards, Paul is dead. /

25 Eclectic Cyborg (formerly dragonfire1981)  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:17:46am

Being the most intelligent thinker at Fox is like…

…damn I can’t think of a good joke here.

26 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:18:30am

re: #25 dragonfire1981

Being on the poop deck aboard the Triumph? /

27 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:18:32am

re: #21 Tigger2

And Jindal wants the party to get rid of the stupid, and Fox is the Republican Party.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

28 thecommodore  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:19:50am

How soon will tea party bad ass Allen West be hired?

29 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:20:12am

re: #15 Kragar (Antichrist )

Nugent conspiracy theory: ‘No so-called assault weapon used’ in Newtown

A gun-nut that doesn’t understand guns. Interesting.

30 erik_t  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:20:35am

re: #15 Kragar (Antichrist )

Nugent conspiracy theory: ‘No so-called assault weapon used’ in Newtown

Ah, the No True Dipshit fallacy.

31 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:20:52am

LOL CLIMATE CHANGE BECUZ METEORS:

32 TedStriker  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:21:18am

re: #15 Kragar (Antichrist )

Nugent conspiracy theory: ‘No so-called assault weapon used’ in Newtown

Uh, Ted, you do realize that the AR15, with very few exceptions, is almost exactly the same as a standard-issue M16 that most soldiers in the US military have used for almost fifty years now, right?

Both the AR15 and M16 share the same basic design, both fire 5.56 NATO (.223 Remington), and both were designed by the same man, Eugene Stoner; except for civilian AR15’s lack of select-fire capability to allow for 3-round burst (or fully automatic fire, as in older M16s), they are almost EXACTLY ALIKE in form and function.

Get fucked, Ted.

33 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:21:47am

re: #13 Kragar (Antichrist )

contrarian thinktanks

Oxymoron, emphasis on the moron.

34 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:21:50am

re: #28 thecommodore

How soon will tea party bad ass Allen West be hired?

If they did that, Fox would be accused of giving in to the PC libtards. Won’t happen.

35 jaunte  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:22:56am

re: #31 Lidane

I don’t suppose he’s hoping that NASA’s budget gets doubled.

36 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:23:22am

DA FUQ? Back in the day, wingnuts were saying the smelly, Commie hippies deserved it!

37 thecommodore  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:23:36am

How about a new “The Five” panel consisting of Palin, Cain, West, Jim Hoft, and Mark Levin.

I bet Obama would resign the day it was announced. There are no more articulate voices of conservatism anywhere. It would be devistating. Obama wouldn’t be able to spew his Marxist Fascist Maoist class warfare rhetoric without having to answer for it.

Such a show might just save the Reoublic from thr hoards demanding free stuff.

38 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:24:25am

re: #31 Lidane

What meteor?


Russia Already Has Meteor Truthers

39 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:25:31am

re: #28 thecommodore

I was listening to Fresh Air yesterday and heard part of an interview with someone who wrote a history of the KKK in North Carolina during the civil rights movement.

The head of the clan used to make all these speeches who’s theory was that since black people aren’t really human enough to want freedom, the civil rights movement must work by blacks being controlled by socialists that themselves are totally controlled by the Jewish Conspiracy. And so there was mad ranting about socialists and communists but it was all the less important sandwich between anti-black racism and anti-Jewish racism.

I thought “how interesting, we have a black president now, and the GOP BRINGS BACK the mad mad mad anti-socialist ranting, minus the now-unacceptable obvious racism”

I wonder what Allen West would think of the provenance of his crazy anti-communist rants.

40 Mattand  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:25:34am

re: #22 thecommodore

Well there is Shep Smith…

Time to trot out my Shep Smith conspiracy theory: he’s their official “loose cannon” that doesn’t adhere to the Fox News basic script. He’s given leave to challenge their usual narrative, so Ailes, et. al., can scream, “Look! Fair and Balanced! See!”

41 efuseakay  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:26:38am

re: #6 stabby

Imagine if they made a show out of JUST Palin and Cain?

Derp to Derp.

Derpily Ties

Two And a Half Derps

Derp and Derpy

Rules of Enderpment

Raising Derp

The Derpy Show

The Derp Is Right

Let’s Make a Derp

The Derp-Team

The Derp And The Derpless

Derps of Our Lives

Derpnanza

The Derp’s Court

The Derpsters

Saved By The Derp

Derps

The Derpsons

Derp Park

Survivor: Derp Island

Derp Idol

42 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:27:35am
43 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:28:02am

Actually I don’t remember which Carolina it was.

44 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:29:43am

re: #43 stabby

Actually I don’t remember which Carolina it was.

West or East Carolina?

45 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:31:57am

re: #36 Vicious Babushka

DA FUQ? Back in the day, wingnuts were saying the smelly, Commie hippies deserved it!

Wingnut logic: Government killed a bunch of students and we didn’t ban guns back then. Why should we ban guns now after a bunch of much younger students died?

46 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:32:16am

Sitting here wishing I had some chapstick in the office when I look at my desk and see some sitting there.

I HAVE SUPERNATURAL POWERS!

47 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:33:04am
48 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:33:42am

re: #46 Kragar (Antichrist )

Sitting here wishing I had some chapstick in the office when I look at my desk and see some sitting there.

I HAVE SUPERNATURAL POWERS!

Cindy Jacobs called. She said to tell you to stop stealing her 5-year old’s miracle Jesus sooper powers.

49 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:34:03am

re: #43 stabby

Actually I don’t remember which Carolina it was.

Apparently it wasn’t just in the Carolinas (or a Carolina). I just finished a history of “Freedom Summer” by Bruce Watson, and the same rhetoric about communist agitators upsetting “our blacks” was chucked around a lot in Mississippi.

Honestly it sounds very JBS, to the point that I’d wonder if that was the origin point.

50 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:35:38am

re: #36 Vicious Babushka

DA FUQ? Back in the day, wingnuts were saying the smelly, Commie hippies deserved it!

Even today, RW nut job orthodoxy is that the Kent State protestors should have been fired on.

Somebody is deviating from approved RW talking points here.

51 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:35:49am
Cain added, “I’m excited about joining the FOX family as a contributor because it is an opportunity to be one more voice for intelligent thinking in America.”

I think those words “intelligent” and “thinking” mean what Cain thinks they mean.

52 TedStriker  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:36:15am

re: #36 Vicious Babushka

DA FUQ? Back in the day, wingnuts were saying the smelly, Commie hippies deserved it!

Apparently, that RWNJ doesn’t realize that Nixon, a Republican, was President when Kent State happened.

/not that it matters to point that out, but hey…

53 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:36:36am

re: #51 Bulworth

I meant to say “I don’t think those words mean what Cain thinks they mean.

54 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:37:02am

re: #50 EPR-radar

Even today, RW nut job orthodoxy is that the Kent State protestors should have been fired on.

Somebody is deviating from approved RW talking points here.

Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.

55 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:37:49am

re: #49 The Ghost of a Flea

I have that book. It’s on my reading list. I started listening to the audio version. Very grim stuff, those days, in True Blue America.

56 blueraven  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:38:32am

Fox News has also added Scott Brown as a contributor.

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

57 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:39:05am

re: #50 EPR-radar

Well, it can get a little confusing, various RWNJ talking points from different times crossing in mid-stream. /

58 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:39:44am

re: #50 EPR-radar

Even today, RW nut job orthodoxy is that the Kent State protestors should have been fired on.

Somebody is deviating from approved RW talking points here.

I don’t think they’re actually deviating from them at all. They’re just drawing a false equivalence.

Kent State = students getting shot up and killed.

Sandy Hook = students getting shot up and killed.

Forget the different circumstances, ages of the dead, etc. In both cases students were killed on campus. Yet Kent State didn’t lead to gun bans. Ergo, Sandy Hook shouldn’t either. You know, becuase the two events are exactly the same or something.

59 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:40:26am

re: #47 Kragar (Antichrist )

Artist envisions what the Orson Scott Card version of Superman will look like.

Actually, that’s only part one. Part two is how the Kents were secretly child abusers, though the abuse was mental instead of physical (much to Pa’s dismay).

(Every single one of Card’s protagonists is the victim of some sort of child abuse. Sometimes from multiple actors at different stages of their lives.)

61 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:41:49am

re: #36 Vicious Babushka

It’s true, the gubmit didn’t ban the National Guard from having moar gunz.

62 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:42:25am

re: #59 kirkspencer

Actually, that’s only part one. Part two is how the Kents were secretly child abusers, though the abuse was mental instead of physical (much to Pa’s dismay).

(Every single one of Card’s protagonists is the victim of some sort of child abuse. Sometimes from multiple actors at different stages of their lives.)

I like this part about the destruction of Krypton:

“What could cause this? Global warming?”
“That’s not a thing.”

63 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:44:46am

re: #31 Lidane

Wow, I’d never really thought of it like that. That means we should definitely pollute the air and water even more. //

64 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:44:56am

re: #47 Kragar (Antichrist )

Artist envisions what the Orson Scott Card version of Superman will look like.

Orson Scott Card = overrated hack. I’ve never liked his books.

Also, when I think of the name Orson, I think of this. My late 70’s/early 80’s childhood, let me show you it.

65 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:45:37am

re: #58 Lidane

I don’t think they’re actually deviating from them at all. They’re just drawing a false equivalence.

Kent State = students getting shot up and killed.

Sandy Hook = students getting shot up and killed.

Forget the different circumstances, ages of the dead, etc. In both cases students were killed on campus. Yet Kent State didn’t lead to gun bans. Ergo, Sandy Hook shouldn’t either. You know, becuase the two events are exactly the same or something.

I agree that this is how this ‘argument’ is probably supposed to work. However, “government killing innocent students” is not a canonical RW description of Kent State. Pope Rush would not approve.

66 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:47:30am

Seems like FNC is where all failed Republican politicians end up.

67 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:47:38am

Fox News: Obama Proposed ‘Free’ Preschool To Toddlers So They Can Vote For Him ‘In The Future’

On Friday, Fox Business host Stuart Varney and Fox News host Steve Doocy attacked preschool access as a government handout intended to extend “literally, the nanny state.” Varney echoed an argument used by former presidential candidate Mitt Romney that Obama won the election by giving “gifts” to women and minorities. Even though Obama cannot run for office a third time, the host warned the president is using preschool to entice a whole new generation of toddlers to support him when they’re eligible in 15 years:

VARNEY: Look what the president is doing here, it’s a repeat performance of his campaign, which is you raise taxes on the rich and you offer all kinds of free stuff to people who will vote for you in the future. Free preschool education for 4-year-olds, it’s free, here it is. Hand out the goodies.

68 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:47:42am

re: #65 EPR-radar

I agree that this is how this ‘argument’ is probably supposed to work. However, “government killing innocent students” is not a canonical RW description of Kent State.

True, but it IS a canonical RWNJ description of Sandy Hook, since these nutters think it’s a false flag operation by Obama to TAKE ALL TEH GUNZ ZOMG.

69 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:48:19am

re: #41 efuseakay

Superderp

This Old Derp

How I Met Your Derp

The Big Derp Theory

The Derp Factor

Derpheads

Derpolution

The Great Derp

70 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:48:50am

re: #69 lawhawk

Superderp

This Old Derp

How I Met Your Derp

The Big Derp Theory

The Derp Factor

Derpheads

Derpolution

The Great Derp

Salt and Pepper.

71 TedStriker  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:48:53am

re: #64 Lidane

Orson Scott Card = overrated hack. I’ve never liked his books.

Also, when I think of the name Orson, I think of this.

My late 70’s/early 80’s childhood, let me show you it.

Whenever I think of the name Orson (aside from Orson Welles), I think of Mork’s superior.

/that’s my late 70s/early 80s childhood moment of the moment

72 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:48:58am

re: #66 HappyWarrior

All failed reporters and pundits, too.

73 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:49:17am

re: #68 Lidane

True, but it IS a canonical RWNJ description of Sandy Hook, since these nutters think it’s a false flag operation by Obama to TAKE ALL TEH GUNZ ZOMG.

Good point. That particular flavor of idiocy had not occurred to me.

74 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:49:34am

re: #72 Bulworth

All failed reporters and pundits, too.

True that.

75 erik_t  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:50:07am

re: #67 Kragar (Antichrist )

Fox News: Obama Proposed ‘Free’ Preschool To Toddlers So They Can Vote For Him ‘In The Future’

Because any president who is serving in his seventh (?) term really needs to rig the game to that degree.

Get a brain, morans.

76 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:50:22am

re: #67 Kragar (Antichrist )

Fox News: Obama Proposed ‘Free’ Preschool To Toddlers So They Can Vote For Him ‘In The Future’

Opposition to child care is an ancient right wing talking point, going all the way back to the Southern Strategy. Nixon vetoed the Child Development Act of 1971 because he considered it too “Soviet”.

77 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:50:25am

re: #60 Tars Tarkas

Libra: The 21st Century (Libertarian) Space Colony

In related news, BioShock 3 is coming soon.

78 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:51:07am

re: #67 Kragar (Antichrist )

Fox News: Obama Proposed ‘Free’ Preschool To Toddlers So They Can Vote For Him ‘In The Future’

But of course massive tax cuts to the very wealthy aren’t “free goodies” at all, it’s rewarding “society’s most productive members but making pre-school more affordable is terrible and a plot to get people to vote for Obama in the future. Shit there’s a lot of headcases at FNC.

79 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:51:08am
VARNEY: Look what the president is doing here, it’s a repeat performance of his campaign, which is you raise taxes on the rich and you offer all kinds of free stuff to people who will vote for you in the future. Free preschool education for 4-year-olds, it’s free, here it is. Hand out the goodies.

Strictly speaking, it was Congress that raised taxes very slightly last month and it would be Congress’s job to pass legislation dealing with preschool programs. But I wouldn’t want to interrupt the intelligent thinking being displayed here. ////

80 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:51:42am

re: #77 Ghost of Tom Joad

In related news, BioShock 3 is coming soon.

On my calendar.

(National Exceptionalism and Religious Fervor. I can hear the screams already.)

81 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:52:27am

Controversial Preacher Bradlee Dean Kicked Off High School Campus In Florida

Dean, who last year sparked outrage after a controversial appearance at an Iowa high school, was invited by a student group to speak at an after-school meeting at Spanish River High School in Boca Raton, Fla. According to a lawyer representing Dean and his group, the school’s principal ordered Dean’s event shut down, citing concerns over Dean’s anti-gay stance. A school district spokesman was not available for comment.

The lawyer, Horatio Mihet of Liberty Counsel, wrote the school district on behalf of Dean and the student organization, the American Club, claiming that the decision to bar Dean’s appearance violated the Constitution.

“We see serious constitutional problems with the principal censoring religious and political expression simply because they are deemed ‘offensive,’ especially when there are no specific, articulable facts to support such an assertion,” he wrote. “Federal law, including the Constitution, protects the right of student clubs to present their ideas without fear of censorship because of disagreement with the content of the message.”

Which is high hilarity coming from Liberty Counsel, who routinely attack anyone arguing for gay rights.

82 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:53:16am

Is it really so bad to support programs so people may vote for you? I mean if that’s the only purpose, yeah, but if it’s considered when drawing up the legislation. What’s so wrong with that? Are we to believe the Republican Party doesn’t suck at the teat of the extremely wealthy interests and not expect support both financially and vote wise in return?

83 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:53:19am

re: #67 Kragar (Antichrist )

Wait so Fox’s theory is that Obama intends preschool children to grow up THEN go back in time and vote in the 2012 or 2008 elections?

He IS an evil genius!

84 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:54:23am

re: #83 stabby

Wait so Fox’s theory is that Obama intends preschool children to grow up THEN go back in time and vote in the 2012 or 2008 elections?

He IS an evil genius!

WHO DO YOU THINK WAS IN ALL THOSE BUSES?!?!

85 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:54:47am

If these maniacs ever succeed in their school prayer crusade, I’d love to see someone pray to Obama just to make their heads explode.

86 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:55:00am

re: #71 TedStriker

Whenever I think of the name Orson (aside from Orson Welles), I think of Mork’s superior.

/that’s my late 70s/early 80s childhood moment of the moment

Well, yes. But I was obsessed with cartoons as a kid, so my references go in that direction first. Plus I didn’t watch Mork & Mindy as much back then. Late night cable re-runs FTW!

87 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:55:23am

re: #81 Kragar (Antichrist )

Controversial Preacher Bradlee Dean Kicked Off High School Campus In Florida

Which is high hilarity coming from Liberty Counsel, who routinely attack anyone arguing for gay rights.

That’s one of those feature not a bug thing. Anyhow, IMO they should be free to set up whatever group they want but the LC’s freakout is funny for the reasons you say since they have no problem with banning Gay-Straight Alliances throughout the country.

88 kerFuFFler  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:56:11am

re: #41 efuseakay

Great list——Rules of Enderpment is pure WIN!

89 sunnygal  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:57:03am

re: #56 blueraven

Maybe FOX will hire Joe Walsh next. He needs a job so he can pay the child support he owes, which he is trying to get out of paying because he doesn’t have a job.

90 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:57:03am

Ahahahahahaha:

Which promises? I seem to recall Mittens flip-flopping his way across the campaign trail.

91 Mattand  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:57:27am

re: #80 kirkspencer

On my calendar.

(National Exceptionalism and Religious Fervor. I can hear the screams already.)

I was disappointed when they didn’t meet the original October 2012 release date. Would have been perfect timing with the election.

92 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:57:30am

This is what my congresscritter was doing that was so important he couldn’t make it to the SOTU:

I won’t be watching that. Even if he had to take a drink in the middle of it.

93 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:59:27am

re: #89 sunnygal

Maybe FOX will hire Joe Walsh next. He needs a job so he can pay the child support he owes, which he is trying to get out of paying because he doesn’t have a job.

I’m surprised they haven’t yet but I think FNC likes big profile people. Cain had a fairly big profile before the sexual harassment story ruined his campaign.

94 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:59:54am

re: #90 Lidane

Remember when Democrats in the House impeached Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush?

Yeah, me neither.

Also, too: is the twitter suggesting that if Romney broke a promise the GOPTeabag party controlling the House would impeach him? RWNJ talking points confusing today.

95 Tigger2005  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:00:50pm

re: #67 Kragar (Antichrist )

Fox News: Obama Proposed ‘Free’ Preschool To Toddlers So They Can Vote For Him ‘In The Future’

I’m not sure even THESE guys are so stupid as to have meant this…maybe they meant “vote for future Democratic Presidential candidates.” But then, who knows…the derp is strong these days.

96 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:00:58pm

re: #93 HappyWarrior

I’m surprised they haven’t yet but I think FNC likes big profile people. Cain had a fairly big profile before the sexual harassment story ruined his campaign.

A prediction from Twitter:

97 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:01:11pm

re: #90 Lidane

Ahahahahahaha:

Which promises? I seem to recall Mittens flip-flopping his way across the campaign trail.

And what would it take to get articles of impeachment for a GOP president out of a GOP house?

Selling CA to the Russians? Nope.

Running arms to the remnants of Al-Qaeda? Nope.

98 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:01:20pm

That was quick. First lawsuit in the books…

Carnival sued by passenger on stricken Carnival Triumph ship

Feb 15 (Reuters) - Carnival Corp : * Sued by passenger who was on stricken Carnival triumph ship — court records * Lawsuit by Texas woman alleges breach of contract, negligence, fraud —

99 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:01:30pm

Good afternoon.

100 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:01:44pm

re: #94 Bulworth

Hell, I would argue that Iran-Contra was worse than Watergate.

101 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:02:32pm

re: #92 wrenchwench

This is what my congresscritter was doing that was so important he couldn’t make it to the SOTU:

I won’t be watching that. Even if he had to take a drink in the middle of it.

If anyone was wondering what that meat puppet was doing there:

Federal wildlife officials are considering to list the lesser prairie chicken as threatened under the Endangered Species Act, something critics argue would hurt the state’s economy.

On Tuesday people rallied in protest of the listing as Roswell became the last stop for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife seeking public opinions on the proposal.

Wildlife officials say the lesser prairie chicken population has declined over the years, and are now considering whether to list it as threatened under the Endangered Species Act.

“It was a candidate species based on the fact that the populations were declining due to drought, due to habitat fragmentation, due to oil and gas development,” explained Cal Baca, USFWS chief of the Wildlife Management Division.

Rep. Steve Pearce, R-N.M., was in Roswell for the rally, and spoke to the crowd.

“The Fish and Wildlife Service is working with bad science, with bad ideas, and with an assumption that you have to kill jobs in order to protect a species,” said Pearce.

102 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:02:56pm

re: #100 ProBosniaLiberal

Hell, I would argue that Iran-Contra was worse than Watergate.

Because it was.

103 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:03:53pm

re: #102 Varek Raith

Because it was.

Yep.

104 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:04:08pm
105 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:04:33pm

re: #97 EPR-radar

And what would it take to get articles of impeachment for a GOP president out of a GOP house?

Selling CA to the Russians? Nope.

Running arms to the remnants of Al-Qaeda? Nope.

Saying that Ronald Reagan wasn’t the best thing ever.

106 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:04:35pm

re: #101 dragonath

If anyone was wondering what that meat puppet was doing there:

Lol, a GOP congresscritter lecturing people on bad science…

107 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:05:04pm

re: #105 HappyWarrior

Saying that Ronald Reagan wasn’t the best thing ever.

HERETIC!
/

108 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:05:05pm

Michael Ledeen’s latest derp on PJ Media is that the fact that Obama hasn’t invaded Syria is proof that he hates America.

I’m not exaggurating the argument in the slightest.

“There is an Obama Doctrine, but hardly anyone wants to acknowledge it. He favors anti-American dictators, and he couldn’t care less what they do to their people.”

“He favors Assad (who, whatever Kerry and Hegel have said, is an enemy) against a revolution that at least contained pro-American elements, now suffering from Obama’s betrayal.”

derpity derp derp derp!

109 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:05:23pm

re: #98 NJDhockeyfan

Not really, since lawyers were probably lining up at the dock in anticipation of this (or the customers on board had lawyers as relatives or told them to get on the horn with their lawyers). I figure there’d probably be a few class action suits being filed in coming weeks.

110 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:05:43pm

re: #92 wrenchwench

This is what my congresscritter was doing that was so important he couldn’t make it to the SOTU:

I won’t be watching that. Even if he had to take a drink in the middle of it.

[Link: www.currentargus.com…]

Story about the prairie chicken, and of course Pearce is going to support the gas industry. JERBS!

111 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:06:57pm

Anyone else having trouble with extremely slow download speeds on youtube vids?
It’s driving me crazy.

112 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:07:03pm

re: #105 HappyWarrior

Saying that Ronald Reagan wasn’t the best thing ever.

Well, as long as it was criticism of Reagan for being too soft on liberals (e.g, 1986 amnesty), there wouldn’t be a problem…

113 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:07:06pm

re: #101 dragonath

“The Fish and Wildlife Service is working with bad science, with bad ideas, and with an assumption that you have to kill jobs in order to protect a species,” said Pearce.

They killed whaling in order to save whales…dumbass.

114 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:07:44pm

re: #111 Varek Raith

I have, for a week.

115 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:08:51pm

re: #100 ProBosniaLiberal

Hell, I would argue that Iran-Contra was worse than Watergate.

Different flavors of evil/bad.

Watergate was all about subverting the very political process in the US to win the election (which was already pretty much in the bag for Nixon anyways).

Iran Contra was all about subverting federal law and the limits on the Executive Branch and foreign policy as well as Congressional oversight by selling weapons to Iran in contravention of sanctions against such sales.

116 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:09:03pm

re: #109 lawhawk

Not really, since lawyers were probably lining up at the dock in anticipation of this (or the customers on board had lawyers as relatives or told them to get on the horn with their lawyers). I figure there’d probably be a few class action suits being filed in coming weeks.

That was certain. I thought it would take a few days before the lawsuits started.

117 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:10:07pm

re: #108 stabby

Weren’t wingnuts accusing PBO of not sufficiently supporting Our Man in Cairo, Mubarak, in opposition to the rebels in Egypt because they feared the Muslim Brotherhood would take over?

Wingnut talking points confusing today.

118 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:10:07pm

re: #110 Ghost of Tom Joad

[Link: www.currentargus.com…]

Story about the prairie chicken, and of course Pearce is going to support the gas industry. JERBS!

Pearce’s millions come from the oil industry.

119 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:10:39pm

re: #117 Bulworth

Weren’t wingnuts accusing PBO of not sufficiently supporting Our Man in Cairo, Mubarak, in opposition to the rebels in Egypt because they feared the Muslim Brotherhood would take over?

Wingnut talking points confusing today.

Yes, yes they were.

120 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:10:48pm

re: #117 Bulworth

Weren’t wingnuts accusing PBO of not sufficiently supporting Our Man in Cairo, Mubarak, in opposition to the rebels in Egypt because they feared the Muslim Brotherhood would take over?

Wingnut talking points confusing today.

Yes, and they also attacked him for not supporting Qaddafi pretty much too. Because Qaddafi was such a vital ally.

121 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:10:55pm

What good is the Prairie Chicken if you can’t eat it?

/

122 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:11:26pm

re: #117 Bulworth

Weren’t wingnuts accusing PBO of not sufficiently supporting Our Man in Cairo, Mubarak, in opposition to the rebels in Egypt because they feared the Muslim Brotherhood would take over?

Wingnut talking points confusing today.

No, there’s no confusion.

Whatever Obama does or says is wrong.

123 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:11:26pm

re: #121 dragonath

What good is the Prairie Chicken if you can’t eat it?

/

well what good is it if there are none left to eat?

124 engineer cat  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:11:59pm

There is an Obama Doctrine, but hardly anyone wants to acknowledge it. He favors anti-American dictators, and he couldn’t care less what they do to their people

and also

The Fish and Wildlife Service is working with bad science, with bad ideas, and with an assumption that you have to kill jobs in order to protect a species

i am really just more than fed up with wingnuts constantly making up fucked up straw man opinions that they stuff in other people’s mouths

enough with this crap already

whenever i talk politics to a wingnut in person, the conversation always starts with a litany of “you liberals believe…”

125 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:12:02pm

re: #117 Bulworth

Weren’t wingnuts accusing PBO of not sufficiently supporting Our Man in Cairo, Mubarak, in opposition to the rebels in Egypt because they feared the Muslim Brotherhood would take over?

Wingnut talking points confusing today.

They were, hell they still are. Conventional “wisdom” is that Obama should have propped up Mubarak, even defended him in the UN, in order to maintain the “status quo.” Likewise we should have troops in every nation touched by the Arab Spring, because it was an opportunity to bring “democracy” to them (i.e. install US-friendly dictators).

126 Tigger2005  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:12:15pm

re: #109 lawhawk

Not really, since lawyers were probably lining up at the dock in anticipation of this (or the customers on board had lawyers as relatives or told them to get on the horn with their lawyers). I figure there’d probably be a few class action suits being filed in coming weeks.

The compensation being offered is ridiculous. If they wanted to head off lawsuits they wouldn’t have offered a lousy $500. I would calculate the amount a reasonable contingency plan to get the passengers off the ship quickly would have cost, and split that. Then add a couple thou in punitive damages.

127 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:13:47pm

BTW, the Republican author of the Endangered Species Act now considers himself a Democrat.

128 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:14:21pm

Another derp quote.

he favored the Muslim Brotherhood over the pro-American Mubarak;

The idea of the article was that it wasn’t Obama’s idea to support the anti-Qaddafi revolt, the women* forced him

* Hillary Clinton, Samantha Power, and Susan Rice

But now they’re all gone and he can go back to hating America and “tolerating large-scale bloodbaths” by anti-American dictators

129 Tigger2005  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:15:52pm

re: #124 engineer cat

There is an Obama Doctrine, but hardly anyone wants to acknowledge it. He favors anti-American dictators, and he couldn’t care less what they do to their people

and also

The Fish and Wildlife Service is working with bad science, with bad ideas, and with an assumption that you have to kill jobs in order to protect a species

i am really just more than fed up with wingnuts constantly making up fucked up straw man opinions that they stuff in other people’s mouths

enough with this crap already

whenever i talk politics to a wingnut in person, the conversation always starts with a litany of “you liberals believe…”

My dad liked to say “Your hero…” (referring to Bill Clinton). It didn’t matter how often I patiently explained that Clinton wasn’t my “hero.”

130 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:16:09pm

The right really shouldn’t be lecturing any president on supporting dictators when a lot of them think the coup that installed Pinochet in Chile was not only a net good but a positive good overall for Chile.

131 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:17:40pm

re: #129 Tigger2005

I get that in wingnut arguments where I’m assumed to worship Obama, but there’s this wonderful racist subtext to that, where treating an uppity black man who rose above his race’s station with anything OTHER than total hatred, contempt and slander IS WORSHIP

132 engineer cat  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:17:47pm

“you’ll like this since you liberals hate capitalism. …you think the government should solve all problems. …just like your heroes castro and stalin! …you want government to guarantee outcomes… …you believe in the religion of Secular Humanism, with its slogan ‘Man is the Measure of All Things’… why do you liberals hate america and sympathize with terrorists? why do you liberals want to destroy the traditional family and the christian religion? why do you liberals want to create a totalitarian communist government that promotes atheism?…”

and on and on and on

133 engineer cat  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:18:41pm

re: #129 Tigger2005

My dad liked to say “Your hero…” (referring to Bill Clinton). It didn’t matter how often I patiently explained that Clinton wasn’t my “hero.”

how dare you deny that you think what i believe you think!

134 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:19:08pm

I usually stop listening if I hear “you liberals” or if you remember barflytom “you lefties.” I mean if you’re going to broadbrush me without getting to know me and my individual views first and why I feel the way I do then you can fuck off.

135 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:19:16pm
136 Tigger2005  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:20:53pm

re: #96 wrenchwench

A prediction from Twitter:

Their fault, making him work with all those Victoria’s Secret models.
/

137 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:20:57pm

re: #127 dragonath

BTW, the Republican author of the Endangered Species Act now considers himself a Democrat.

Considering how far to the right the GOP is these days, I’m not surprised.

Anyone to the left of Attila the Hun is damn pinko commie leftist, dont’cha know.

138 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:21:15pm

re: #135 Lidane

You know how the scene with the buildings falling in “Fight Club” was no longer fun after 9/11? That won’t hold up after the next time an asteroid kills a huge number of people.

139 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:21:24pm

re: #126 Tigger2005

The compensation being offered is ridiculous. If they wanted to head off lawsuits they wouldn’t have offered a lousy $500. I would calculate the amount a reasonable contingency plan to get the passengers off the ship quickly would have cost, and split that. Then add a couple thou in punitive damages.

Getting the passengers off the ship quickly has no “reasonable” cost. You’ve got ship to ship transfer or helicopter shuttle (whether by sling lift or deck landings - assuming the ship has a deck that’ll support the landing.) both are risky, time consuming, and expensive.

This will have to go through the courts, but triumph Carnival is going to be asked why they didn’t send control staff when the onboard crew lost control. They’re going to be asked why they didn’t send large power units (mounted on-deck) to provide power for critical services. They’re going to be asked just what the training is given the jungle rules that seem to have taken over - that crew lost control.

fwiw, I suspect what triumph Carnival is really dreading is the safety investigation related to all that. There are a lot of exemptions for cruise ships but they aren’t total, and it looks like some that weren’t exempted (see above questions) still got ignored.

140 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:22:37pm

re: #135 Lidane

What would totally kick ass is an overhead satellite view of something like that exploding (not that I want to see devastation and injury…but for the coolness factor).

141 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:23:23pm

What could possibly go wrong?

142 TedStriker  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:24:28pm

re: #139 kirkspencer

Getting the passengers off the ship quickly has no “reasonable” cost. You’ve got ship to ship transfer or helicopter shuttle (whether by sling lift or deck landings - assuming the ship has a deck that’ll support the landing.) both are risky, time consuming, and expensive.

This will have to go through the courts, but triumph is going to be asked why they didn’t send control staff when the onboard crew lost control. They’re going to be asked why they didn’t send large power units (mounted on-deck) to provide power for critical services. They’re going to be asked just what the training is given the jungle rules that seem to have taken over - that crew lost control.

fwiw, I suspect what triumph is really dreading is the safety investigation related to all that. There are a lot of exemptions for cruise ships but they aren’t total, and it looks like some that weren’t exempted (see above questions) still got ignored.

Not to be a pedant, but I think you may mean Carnival, not “triumph”; Carnival is the cruise line, Triumph is the ship.

143 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:24:55pm

re: #141 Lidane

What could possibly go wrong?

I support abstinence only gun safety classes.

144 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:25:18pm

re: #136 Tigger2005

Their fault, making him work with all those Victoria’s Secret models.

Imma upding that cause I assume that’s sarc.

145 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:27:57pm

re: #98 NJDhockeyfan

That was quick. First lawsuit in the books…

Carnival sued by passenger on stricken Carnival Triumph ship

The ambulance chasers were waiting at the dock before the rubes could even leave the ship.

146 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:28:49pm

re: #143 Kragar (Antichrist )

Heh, there’s this made up statistic (TOTALLY INVENTED) that claims that people who abstain till marriage make more money over their lives. It started with the Heritage foundation saying “well that MUST be true” without actually checking.

I wonder what an actual study like that would show for gun ownership. Are people who own guns poorer? Are they more likely to go to jail. How do they do on out-of-wedlock children? I wonder.

147 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:30:01pm

re: #145 Vicious Babushka

The ambulance chasers were waiting at the dock before the rubes could even leave the ship.

And of course lawsuits after a disaster are a much more reasonable alternative than rules/regulations to try to reduce the number/severity of such events.

//

148 Tigger2005  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:30:18pm

re: #134 HappyWarrior

I usually stop listening if I hear “you liberals” or if you remember barflytom “you lefties.” I mean if you’re going to broadbrush me without getting to know me and my individual views first and why I feel the way I do then you can fuck off.

“Libtards” is popular too.

I must admit on threads dominated by Tea Party types I often say “you people,” but then, just about everyone on those threads DOES fit the stereotype of a wingnut. Wingnuts pretty much cooperate with living up (or down) to their stereotype.

149 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:30:19pm

re: #146 stabby

Heh, there’s this made up statistic (TOTALLY INVENTED) that claims that people who abstain till marriage make more money over their lives. It started with the Heritage foundation saying “well that MUST be true” without actually checking.

I wonder what an actual study like that would show for gun ownership. Are people who own guns poorer? Are they more likely to go to jail. How do they do on out-of-wedlock children? I wonder.

Its more total horseshit they pulled out of their ass, just like every other claim they make.

150 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:30:23pm

*FACE PALM*
If Walmart actually paid the people who work for them enough to LIVE ON, they would totally shop somewhere else.

151 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:30:59pm

re: #147 EPR-radar

And of course lawsuits after a disaster are a much more reasonable alternative than rules/regulations to try to reduce the number/severity of such events.

//

Yeah, it’s just like going to the emergency room instead of sitting in your apartment waiting to die.//

152 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:32:22pm

re: #150 Vicious Babushka

*FACE PALM*
If Walmart actually paid the people who work for them enough to LIVE ON, they would totally shop somewhere else.

Shocka!

65 Republicans Supported Increasing The Minimum Wage When Bush Was President

President Obama’s call for a minimum wage increase in Tuesday’s State of the Union address — like nearly all of his proposals — was met with immediate opposition from Congressional Republicans. But six years ago, many of the same Republicans supported a similar proposal backed by Republican President George W. Bush.

A ThinkProgress analysis finds that at least 67 Republicans who are still in Congress today backed an increase in the minimum wage in some form, including Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI).

153 Tigger2005  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:33:16pm

re: #144 wrenchwench

Imma upding that cause I assume that’s sarc.

Sarc tag added for your comfort, convenience and safety.

154 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:34:07pm

re: #152 Lidane

Shocka!

65 Republicans Supported Increasing The Minimum Wage When Bush Was President

It’s the old “Obama supports it so we must oppose it” bullshit. And Paul Ryan is such a fucking fraud. He really was perfect for Romney since he too loved to etch his sketch.

155 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:34:12pm

If $9 is too high for the minimum wage is $7somthing too high too?

How low would be low enough for Republicans?
50¢?
20¢
2¢?

156 Tigger2005  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:35:41pm

re: #155 stabby

If $9 is too high for the minimum wage is $7somthing too high too?

How low would be low enough for Republicans?
50¢?
20¢
2¢?

Indentured servitude (it sounds nicer than that other word)

157 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:36:21pm

re: #155 stabby

If $9 is too high for the minimum wage is $7somthing too high too?

How low would be low enough for Republicans?
50¢?
20¢
2¢?

A bowl of gruel and a voucher for some food in the future. But only if you buy that food with the special currency that’s only valid at your employer’s office.

Also, screw you for trying to have a house to rent or own. Sign this contract for deed today and in 99 years your descendants will get to maybe possibly inherit your debt.

//////

158 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:36:21pm

re: #155 stabby

If $9 is too high for the minimum wage is $7somthing too high too?

How low would be low enough for Republicans?
50¢?
20¢
2¢?

any is too high.

The argument is that companies should be allowed to pay what they want to pay so as to maximize profits.

These people really don’t seem to have paid attention to history - to WHY Unions grew so strongly in the late 19th and early 20th century. And they don’t seem to have made Ford’s connection that the workers also buy things, to include things from their company — but only if they have money to do so.

159 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:37:34pm

Rick Wiles: President Obama Has ‘Spiritually Sodomized’ the Military and the Nation

Wiles: Last year, Barack Obama spiritually sodomized the US armed forces by compelling American generals to accept his demand that the military alter its code of moral conduct and permit homosexuals and lesbians to openly serve in the military.

Furthermore, he commanded the military to extend financial benefits to same-sex couples in the military. Additionally, military chapels on US military bases were ordered to permit homosexual marriage ceremonies inside the facilities.

The Boy Scouts of America is the next target of the socialist Obamanistas. Last week the Irving, Texas-based organization delayed a decision until May on whether the scouting organization will change its rules of conduct to allow homosexuals to serve as scout masters, troop leaders, and as Boy Scouts.

What will be the spiritual consequences of the American people allowing Barack Obama to spiritually sodomize the nation? Bishop Harry Jackson, Jr is on the telephone; I’m going to him that question.

160 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:37:41pm

DUMBASS

161 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:37:53pm

re: #156 Tigger2005

Indentured servitude (it sounds nicer than that other word)

Marriage?
/

162 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:38:22pm

re: #161 Kragar (Antichrist )

Marriage?
/

LOL

163 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:38:31pm

re: #160 Vicious Babushka

DUMBASS

Yet taxes are really low. YEah we’re really being “taxed” to death fuckface.

164 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:38:31pm

re: #160 Vicious Babushka

DUMBASS

Which explains why so many Walmart workers are on welfare.

165 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:38:33pm
166 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:39:17pm

re: #159 Kragar (Antichrist )

Dear Mr. Wiles. Please keep your personal fantasies to yourself. Airing them in public makes you look like a fool.

167 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:39:21pm

re: #156 Tigger2005

Indentured servitude (it sounds nicer than that other word)

The comical thing is how people who are against a higher minimum wage are implicitly supporting outsourcing and tax emigres- which of course, results in a higher tax on Joe Patriot.

168 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:39:38pm

Spiritual Sodomy. Band name!

169 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:40:48pm

re: #160 Vicious Babushka

DUMBASS

Yes, because PBO has raised the shit out of the working poors’ taxes in his 4 years.

I’d show him a graph, but it would probably turn him to ash from looking at it.

170 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:40:48pm

I thought the Constitution guarantees a right to a fair trial. Guess not for this “patriot”

171 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:41:07pm

re: #141 Lidane

I actually don’t think this is a bad idea, honestly. I grew up around guns and was taught how to use them by my father and I also learned just how dangerous they were and just how dead, dead is. We saw what happens when a round from a 30.06 hits a full gallon jug of kool-aid and the damage it does when I took my hunter safety course.

I really think if more kids learned the reality of guns rather than what they see on TV it could have a positive effect.

172 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:41:29pm

Wisconsin Republicans: Forcing Women To Undergo Transvaginal Ultrasounds Is Our ‘Priority’

At the Wisconsin Right to Life Legislative Conference this week, the state’s top Republican lawmakers assured attendees that they will do everything in their power to enact a forced ultrasound bill, which would mandate an invasive transvaginal probe for some women seeking first-trimester abortions. “This bill is a priority,” Wisconsin Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald (R) said. “It is long overdue.”

173 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:41:48pm

re: #126 Tigger2005

The compensation being offered is ridiculous. If they wanted to head off lawsuits they wouldn’t have offered a lousy $500. I would calculate the amount a reasonable contingency plan to get the passengers off the ship quickly would have cost, and split that. Then add a couple thou in punitive damages.

$500 x 4,200 passengers = $2.1 million. That’s enough to be recouped by beverage service on a couple of cruises.

They probably did the cost-benefit analysis and figure people wont go through the hassle of suing, even though it would have been a better PR move to offer up refunds (not simply a free cruise down the line) plus say $2,500 per passenger. It might cost $10m or more to do, but that’s better PR than watching Carnival’s branding get whacked once again.

It’s tone deaf, but then again Carnival knows that it’s got a pretty sweet deal legally because of its contract with its customers, favorable international law and that’s it’s managed to secure a favorable port where it can be sued (Miami). It controls the terms, and it’s written that contract to its favor. It’s also capped its liability at the higher limits allowed under 46 US 30506, which is the same provision that they’ll use to cap their damages for the Costa Concordia disaster.

174 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:42:12pm

re: #169 Ghost of Tom Joad

Yes, because PBO has raised the shit out of the working poors’ taxes in his 4 years.

I’d show him a graph, but it would probably turn him to ash from looking at it.

No, this dumbass wingnut is bitching about the temporary Social Security payroll withholding cut, which the GOP refused to extend.

175 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:42:24pm

re: #170 Vicious Babushka

I thought the Constitution guarantees a right to a fair trial. Guess not for this “patriot”

A future Chris Dorner.

176 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:43:07pm

Bay Area man accused of threatening to kill state senator

SACRAMENTO — A Bay Area man who authorities say was building homemade bombs was arrested this week for threatening to kill a state lawmaker.

Everett Basham, 45, was booked on multiple charges, including possession of a manufactured explosive and illegal possession of chemicals used to make explosives.

Police served an arrest warrant for the man after being alerted by state Sen. Leland Yee (D-San Francisco), whose office said the lawmaker had been threatened with death for pushing legislation to restrict assault weapons.

177 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:43:08pm

re: #171 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I actually don’t think this is a bad idea, honestly. I grew up around guns and was taught how to use them by my father and I also learned just how dangerous they were and just how dead, dead is. We saw what happens when a round from a 30.06 hits a full gallon jug of kool-aid and the damage it does when I took my hunter safety course.

I really think if more kids learned the reality of guns rather than what they see on TV it could have a positive effect.

Yeah but mandatory gun education especially with all the already mandatory classes kids have to take to get a diploma? I do agree though, it would be helpful if more people saw that guns are deadly weapons though.

178 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:43:30pm

re: #157 Lidane

The poors need to spend, spend, spend to keep the economy going even if they don’t make enough to buy, buy, buy and they shouldn’t get credit they can’t handle but they should have credit cards to they can donate to their favorite religious grifter broadcast network’s stable of snake-handlers.//

179 efuseakay  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:43:41pm

re: #69 lawhawk

Superderp

This Old Derp

How I Met Your Derp

The Big Derp Theory

The Derp Factor

Derpheads

Derpolution

The Great Derp

Star Derps

Star Derp

Battlestar Derplactica

180 engineer cat  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:44:46pm

re: #148 Tigger2005

“Libtards” is popular too.

I must admit on threads dominated by Tea Party types I often say “you people,” but then, just about everyone on those threads DOES fit the stereotype of a wingnut. Wingnuts pretty much cooperate with living up (or down) to their stereotype.

the difference is, though, as should be really obvious from reading sites like this, is that progressives stereotype wingnuts based on actual quotes instead of made up opinions

181 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:45:11pm

re: #178 Bulworth

The poors need to spend, spend, spend to keep the economy going even if they don’t make enough to buy, buy, buy and they shouldn’t get credit they can’t handle but they should have credit cards to they can donate to their favorite religious grifter broadcast network’s stable of snake-handlers.//

Not just the poors. A big chunk of the middle class also.

182 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:45:50pm

re: #177 HappyWarrior

Considering, at the school I went to, Archery was a part of PE why not have shooting as well?

183 Tigger2005  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:45:52pm

re: #173 lawhawk

$500 x 4,200 passengers = $2.1 million. That’s enough to be recouped by beverage service on a couple of cruises.

They probably did the cost-benefit analysis and figure people wont go through the hassle of suing, even though it would have been a better PR move to offer up refunds

My understanding it they ARE giving full refunds along with discounts on future cruises (as if any of the passengers will take them up on THAT). That’s the least to be expected, but the additional compensation is a joke.

184 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:46:41pm

This does not even make any freaking sense. A REFUND is what you get BACK after you ALREADY PAID for something. *FACE PALM*

185 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:46:42pm

re: #147 EPR-radar

And of course lawsuits after a disaster are a much more reasonable alternative than rules/regulations to try to reduce the number/severity of such events.

//

You can bet that Carnival has already done the math on all that at least once in terms of expected costs, etc. of the various scenarios. And probably run it by their insurance carrier in part as well.

186 Ghost of Tom Joad  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:47:34pm

re: #174 Vicious Babushka

No, this dumbass wingnut is bitching about the temporary Social Security payroll withholding cut, which the GOP refused to extend.

Oh, one of those. I know many who think like that. “Obama raised taxes!” Try to explain it was a temporary stimulus measure, and they glaze over and move onto the next talking point.

Really is infuriating.

187 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:47:37pm

re: #174 Vicious Babushka

You mean the one that PBO reduced to begin with? Sigh. I want the taxed enough already people to show me their tax returns.

188 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:47:53pm

re: #182 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Considering, at the school I went to, Archery was a part of PE why not have shooting as well?

Sounds expensive but as I said, I’m open to people learning that guns are dangerous. If it’s this gun fetishism crap that many Republicans seem to engage in though.

189 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:47:56pm

Wingnuts are all umgeboyzelt because they think Obama is taking money out of their hard earned paychecks and giving it to the Poors who will waste it on stuff like food.

190 erik_t  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:48:23pm

re: #184 Vicious Babushka

@nf3l You know what hurts MIDDLE CLASS TAXPAYERS? Giving TAX REFUNDS to people who people who PAY NO TAXES at all. #RedNationRising #tcot #TGDN

Why did George Bush work so hard to hurt MIDDLE CLASS TAXPAYERS, Jim?

191 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:48:44pm

Uh oh.

Turkey: 8 retired military officers arrested

Turkey’s state-run news agency says authorities have arrested eight more retired officers over their alleged involvement in the ousting of an Islamic-led government in the late 1990s.

192 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:49:25pm

re: #190 erik_t

Why did George Bush work so hard to hurt MIDDLE CLASS TAXPAYERS, Jim?

#RedNationRising is the hashtag for secessionists.

193 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:49:29pm

re: #184 Vicious Babushka

Everyone pays taxes. Or at least everyone who draws a paycheck at some point during the year. Taxes are taken out of that paycheck. The person pays taxes. They may get most or all of it back if they are able to deduct enough. But every worker pays taxes. Such bullsht.

194 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:49:53pm

re: #182 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Considering, at the school I went to, Archery was a part of PE why not have shooting as well?

Of course, though I do support the idea of high schools possibly offering gun training classes, once you decide to do it you suddenly buy the school district a whole additional bushel of costs that have to be funded; range and maintenance thereof, guns themselves, ammo, secure storage thereof and then the additional liability insurance that will be needed.

195 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:50:27pm

re: #193 Bulworth

Everyone pays taxes. Or at least everyone who draws a paycheck at some point during the year. Taxes are taken out of that paycheck. The person pays taxes. They may get most or all of it back if they are able to deduct enough. But every worker pays taxes. Such bullsht.

Yep. But this is the American wingnut who actually believes that there’s a large portion of the country that pays no taxes at all.

196 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:50:32pm

re: #183 Tigger2005

My understanding it they ARE giving full refunds along with discounts on future cruises (as if any of the passengers will take them up on THAT). That’s the least to be expected, but the additional compensation is a joke.

Carnival’s legal exposure is probably surprisingly low (and also not likely to be affected by the generosity of the compensation), so this kind of bean counting is to be expected.

Wouldn’t it be interesting if the choice of destination port affected the legal situation? I hope reporters are looking into the question of whether the affair dragged out longer than it had to in order to get the ship into a better port for the defendant.

197 leftynyc  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:50:45pm

re: #132 engineer cat

“you’ll like this since you liberals hate capitalism. …you think the government should solve all problems. …just like your heroes castro and stalin! …you want government to guarantee outcomes… …you believe in the religion of Secular Humanism, with its slogan ‘Man is the Measure of All Things’… why do you liberals hate america and sympathize with terrorists? why do you liberals want to destroy the traditional family and the christian religion? why do you liberals want to create a totalitarian communist government that promotes atheism?…”

and on and on and on

They get that type of argument from their hero rush who always starts with “liberals say, liberals believe, moonbats this, moonbats that”. It’s the style of argument impotent losers use because they can’t argue facts - just strawmen.

198 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:51:20pm

re: #195 HappyWarrior

And I wonder where they get that idea from…..

199 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:51:34pm

Wingnuts bitch about taxes and then they bitch about the quality of the schools, roads, health care, etc. Hey dummies, lower taxes on those with high revenues has a consequence.

200 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:52:06pm

re: #197 leftynyc

They get that type of argument from their hero rush who always starts with “liberals say, liberals believe, moonbats this, moonbats that”. It’s the style of argument impotent losers use because they can’t argue facts - just strawmen.

Well, Chinese emperors got buried with large groups of clay soldiers. Maybe Rush is setting up to get entombed with an army of scarecrows.
///

201 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:52:19pm

re: #173 lawhawk

$500 x 4,200 passengers = $2.1 million. That’s enough to be recouped by beverage service on a couple of cruises.

They probably did the cost-benefit analysis and figure people wont go through the hassle of suing, even though it would have been a better PR move to offer up refunds (not simply a free cruise down the line) plus say $2,500 per passenger. It might cost $10m or more to do, but that’s better PR than watching Carnival’s branding get whacked once again.

It’s tone deaf, but then again Carnival knows that it’s got a pretty sweet deal legally because of its contract with its customers, favorable international law and that’s it’s managed to secure a favorable port where it can be sued (Miami). It controls the terms, and it’s written that contract to its favor. It’s also capped its liability at the higher limits allowed under 46 US 30506, which is the same provision that they’ll use to cap their damages for the Costa Concordia disaster.

But still and again, if sailing after the previous mechanical problem is considered negligence, then the limitations are mooted. forex 30509(A).

202 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:52:54pm

And if the wingnuts are really butthurt about some people supposedly not paying any federal income taxes, why don’t they ask whose fault that is, or what the reason is?

Please wingnut, tell us why some people don’t have any federal income tax liability at the end of the year?

203 Tigger2005  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:53:19pm

re: #191 dragonath

Uh oh.

Turkey: 8 retired military officers arrested

I guess in addition to everybody wanting out of the EU these days, nobody wants in anymore, either.

204 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:53:23pm

re: #193 Bulworth

Everyone pays taxes. Or at least everyone who draws a paycheck at some point during the year. Taxes are taken out of that paycheck. The person pays taxes. They may get most or all of it back if they are able to deduct enough. But every worker pays taxes. Such bullsht.

QFT.

Withholding comes out of every single paycheck, regardless of the person’s tax brackets. At the end of the year (well, tax season), the taxpayers will see if they qualify for refunds of withholding taxes withheld for paying their tax obligations (taxes owed after taking all the applicable credits, deductions, losses, etc.)

205 engineer cat  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:53:36pm

Giving TAX REFUNDS to people who people who PAY NO TAXES at all

inaccuracies aside, we can blame george bush for this ‘freeloading minimum wage earners’ meme since he was the one who pushed through the bill lowering income taxes to zero for bottom wage earners

206 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:53:39pm

re: #192 Vicious Babushka

#RedNationRising is the hashtag for secessionists.

/facepalm

207 geoffm33  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:54:00pm

re: #165 Vicious Babushka

I think @CallawayCowboy is a fake account, probably run some by white 20 something. Pretending to be a black guy so he can get away with his racist overtones and use of the n-bomb.

208 Destro  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:54:17pm

re: #76 dragonath

Opposition to child care is an ancient right wing talking point, going all the way back to the Southern Strategy. Nixon vetoed the Child Development Act of 1971 because he considered it too “Soviet”.

Or the real reason - possibilities of “race mixing” going on in those public schools.

209 geoffm33  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:55:26pm

re: #200 Feline Fearless Leader

Well, Chinese emperors got buried with large groups of clay soldiers. Maybe Rush is setting up to get entombed with an army of scarecrows.
///

No sarc tag needed

210 engineer cat  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:55:46pm

re: #195 HappyWarrior

Yep. But this is the American wingnut who actually believes that there’s a large portion of the country that pays no taxes at all.

the really shocking thing to me is that even a hypothetically well informed person like mitt could assert that 47% of the country ‘believe they are entitled’ and ‘don’t take personal responsibility for their own lives’

211 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:56:36pm

Of course many of the “non-tax payers” as the wingnut brigade would have it, are their fellow travelers, be they unemployed, retired, or young families with the right combination of child deductions and mortage interest deductions, and so on.

212 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:56:49pm

re: #205 engineer cat

Giving TAX REFUNDS to people who people who PAY NO TAXES at all

inaccuracies aside, we can blame george bush for this ‘freeloading minimum wage earners’ meme since he was the one who pushed through the bill lowering income taxes to zero for bottom wage earners

Of course, this was a politically useful move at the time since it was an attractive part of an across the board set of tax cuts.

Unfortunately for the GOP, this is a move that can only be made once, and trying to take it back makes them looks more sociopathic than usual.

Brings tears to me eyes.//

213 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:57:09pm

Rhode Islanders repeatedly call cops over 12-foot snow penis

Police told The Providence Journal that they responded to calls about the phallic creation four different times in two days, but did nothing because it was on private property.

Of course, it didn’t have to be 12-feet tall. But when the mother of the teenage boys who built the thing saw how people were reacting, she felt like driving the point home a little.

“They’re teenage boys — there’s worse things they could be doing,” she told a Huffington Post reporter. “It was innocent. And to be honest, knowing that it pissed people off gave us a little charge. If you have nothing else to do in your day other than complain about a snow penis, we’ll make it 12 feet tall.”

214 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:57:13pm

The power of austerity:

Greek Economy Shrinks Another 6%

215 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:58:08pm

In his famous now-deliberately-impossible-to-find RNC speech patrick buchanan said “you don’t give these people Head-Start programs, you send them to JAIL!”

Got applause for it too.

There he was equating black preschoolers with rioters and saying that they all belong in jail

He also coined the phrase “culture war” in that speech.

What racism?

216 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:58:21pm

LOL

217 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:59:12pm

re: #210 engineer cat

the really shocking thing to me is that even a hypothetically well informed person like mitt could assert that 47% of the country ‘believe they are entitled’ and ‘don’t take personal responsibility for their own lives’

This is standard GOP dogma these days —- unusual levels of wing nuttiness are not needed here.

Besides, Romney clearly believes down to his bones that people who are less well off than him are that way as a result of their laziness and/or incompetence.

218 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:00:09pm

re: #215 stabby

Is that the speech where Molly Ivins opined: “It would have sounded better in the original German”?

219 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:00:16pm

re: #195 HappyWarrior

Yep. But this is the American wingnut who actually believes that there’s a large portion of the country that pays no taxes at all.

It’s a lie that Fox, the Koches etc promote so that they can create support for never raising taxes on the rich.

They invent a non-existent poor/black (OBAMAPHONES) class to blame

220 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:00:45pm

re: #218 EPR-radar

IDK I heard it on the CBC

221 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:00:47pm

re: #218 EPR-radar

Is that the speech where Molly Ivins opined: “It would have sounded better in the original German”?

Yeah I believe that’s the 1992 RNC keynote speech.

222 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:01:12pm

Besides the unemployed, elderly and young families with the right deductions, there are some “no federal tax liability” folks who get the earned income tax credit (which is what I assume the wingnut cry is really about). And the EITC of course, was more or less a centrist if not a conservative idea to “make work pay” and to help people get off of the welfare rolls. But now, as with many other policy items, the EITC has become anethema to the conservative chattering classes who in turn pass these talking points to their listeners.

223 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:01:33pm

re: #201 kirkspencer

That’ll come into play too, but it’s possible someone will try a products liability tact - defective design that they knowingly went with that had underpowered backup systems (IOW - attempt to pursue a strict liability, rather than negligence case).

224 makeitstop  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:04:52pm

re: #213 Kragar (Antichrist )

Rhode Islanders repeatedly call cops over 12-foot snow penis

I don’t know who that woman is, but I like her.

225 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:08:11pm

Jesus Christ these people are fucking stupid. My head hurts.

226 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:08:50pm

re: #223 lawhawk

That’ll come into play too, but it’s possible someone will try a products liability tact - defective design that they knowingly went with that had underpowered backup systems (IOW - attempt to pursue a strict liability, rather than negligence case).

Also true. And most likely they’ll try to shotgun all of them (plus some more esoteric challenges) into the case.

227 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:11:52pm

re: #117 Bulworth

Weren’t wingnuts accusing PBO of not sufficiently supporting Our Man in Cairo, Mubarak, in opposition to the rebels in Egypt because they feared the Muslim Brotherhood would take over?

Wingnut talking points confusing today.

Makes me think of the Conservabot 9000.

228 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:12:21pm

re: #224 makeitstop

Me too.

The fact that she isn’t in jail for that is proof that our society has improved since I was a kid, and that’s the reason that the wingnuts are angry enough to go postal!

229 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:12:25pm

re: #71 TedStriker

Whenever I think of the name Orson (aside from Orson Welles), I think of Mork’s superior.

/that’s my late 70s/early 80s childhood moment of the moment

I think of Orson Welles. I grew up with those Gallo wine commercials and watching “Prophecies of Nostradamus” (and “In Search Of…”).

230 Destro  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:12:53pm

re: #213 Kragar (Antichrist )

Rhode Islanders repeatedly call cops over 12-foot snow penis

These people should never visit Japan during the Japanese Big Penis Festival…

231 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:14:12pm

re: #230 Destro

These people should never visit Japan during the Japanese Big Penis Festival…

[Embedded content]

So that is why they paraded me thru the streets that one time. It finally makes sense.

232 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:15:07pm

re: #229 Dr Lizardo

233 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:15:16pm

re: #231 Kragar (Antichrist )

So that is why they paraded me thru the streets that one time. It finally makes sense.

You’re shaped like a big penis??

234 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:15:54pm

re: #191 dragonath

Uh oh.

Turkey: 8 retired military officers arrested

More likely then not, it’s related to the whole “Ergenekon Organization” Trial going on right now. The “Deep State” and all that jazz.

235 Destro  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:15:56pm

re: #228 stabby

Me too.

The fact that she isn’t in jail for that is proof that our society has improved since I was a kid, and that’s the reason that the wingnuts are angry enough to go postal!

Why the picture of a penis is disgusting but the picture of a man brutally tortured and executed on a cross is revered art is lost on me.

236 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:16:23pm

re: #233 sattv4u2

Your shaped like a big penis??

My what?

237 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:16:49pm

re: #226 kirkspencer

I was just going to point that out. Plaintiffs could throw everything and the kitchen sink into their pleadings, including theories that oppose each other (knowingly going and screwing up versus negligence as well as strict liability, etc.). I’d have to look at the Carnival TOS to see whether they prohibit class action suits, but that may be where it’s heading. If there are class action suits, it’s also possible to see a class extend far beyond this particular Triumph cruise to including anyone who ever took a cruise on this class of ship or any similar design since they too were subjected to these potential problems.

From a public health angle, if anyone from this cruise gets sick with say norovirus or hepatitis, etc., they too could have causes of action originating from the cruise. That could open up a seamy underside of the cruise industry - exposing just how bad things are below decks and that when the cruises always try to pin blame on passengers for spreading norovirus, the problems may be with sick crew members or food handling issues.

238 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:17:03pm

If we ever get over being too puritanical to deal with sex, the influence of Japanese culture will have something to do with it.

But I’m not all that hopeful

239 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:17:03pm

re: #236 Kragar (Antichrist )

My what?

fixeded

240 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:17:50pm

re: #225 Vicious Babushka

Jesus Christ these people are fucking stupid. My head hurts.

Those food stamps they whine about so much are the government subsidizing the pay of those people they sneer at as they buy barrels of cheese balls and cases of beer at Wal-Mart for dirt cheap prices.

241 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:17:56pm

re: #238 stabby

Japan has plenty of it’s own fucked-up puritanical shit, it’s just more aimed at women.

242 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:18:46pm
243 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:18:46pm

re: #230 Destro

That’s no penis. It’s an interpretation of the Macau skyline. /pervert.

244 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:19:41pm

re: #241 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Google “Governor of Tokyo Prefecture”…

245 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:19:49pm

re: #239 sattv4u2

fixeded

((thats what I get for combining multi-tasking with rushing with poor typing skills))

246 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:20:07pm

re: #241 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

like what? I mean I know there’s a difference between traditional/conservative Japanese culture and popular Japanese culture, but popular Japanese culture probably gives their women slightly more wiggle room than American can, but as usual for things we wouldn’t even say we want, like the freedom to cheat on your husband or to read porn that we’d consider near illegal.

247 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:20:18pm

So…
Which one of you crashed my ship in Russian this morning???

248 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:21:26pm

re: #247 Varek Raith

So…
Which one of you crashed my ship in Russian this morning???

Some farm kid was on earlier saying something about a thermal exhaust port.

You never heard of plywood?

249 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:21:28pm

re: #246 stabby

like what? I mean I know there’s a difference between traditional/conservative Japanese culture and popular Japanese culture, but popular Japanese culture probably gives their women slightly more wiggle room than American can, but as usual for things we wouldn’t even say we want, like the freedom to cheat on your husband or to read porn that we’d consider near illegal.

Well, you’re wrong. I don’t know what to say, man, I’m not going to teach you about Japanese culture via posts on LGF, nor should you seek to learn that way. Go read up on it, if you’re interested.

250 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:21:43pm

re: #246 stabby

like what? I mean I know there’s a difference between traditional/conservative Japanese culture and popular Japanese culture, but popular Japanese culture probably gives their women slightly more wiggle room than American can, but as usual for things we wouldn’t even say we want, like the freedom to cheat on your husband or to read porn that we’d consider near illegal.

In a 2001 interview with women’s magazine Shukan Josei, Ishihara said that he believed “old women who live after they have lost their reproductive function are useless and are committing a sin,” adding that he “couldn’t say this as a politician.” He was criticized in the Tokyo Metropolitan Assembly for these comments, but responded that the criticism was driven by “tyrant… old women.”[38]

Yeah, no misogyny there.

251 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:21:48pm

re: #247 Varek Raith

So…
Which one of you crashed my ship in Russian this morning???

Remember when you were behind that slow moving satellite, passed it and gave it the finger!!

Pay Back!

252 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:21:59pm

re: #247 Varek Raith

So…
Which one of you crashed my ship in Russian this morning???

Why do you think the number is “one”?
//

253 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:22:59pm

re: #248 Kragar (Antichrist )

Some farm kid was on earlier saying something about a thermal exhaust port.

You never heard of plywood?

Hey!
That was simply George Lucas plotkai.
Doesn’t count.
:P

254 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:23:11pm

re: #250 dragonath

I don’t remember misogyny being the question. Though sexual harassment at work is supposedly no long allowed.

255 engineer cat  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:24:19pm

re: #235 Destro

Why the picture of a penis is disgusting but the picture of a man brutally tortured and executed on a cross is revered art is lost on me.

i’m jewish. one day when i was about 8 or so at summer camp, i saw a statuette fall out of a woman counselor’s locker. it depicted a nearly naked man (washboard abs graphically depicted) nailed to a cross with blood drops coming out of various parts of his body

i was sure she was some kinda messed up sex pervert

256 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:25:27pm

re: #247 Varek Raith

So…
Which one of you crashed my ship in Russian this morning???

I crashed it in perfectly good English in Russia.

I warned them. You warned them. But did they listen? Shows ‘em right.

257 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:25:30pm

re: #250 dragonath

Also your man there sounds insane.

258 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:25:30pm

Joaquin Phoenix’s PETA Ad Banned By ABC

A TV advert showing Joaquin Phoenix ‘drowning’ has been banned from broadcast during the Oscars.

The Walk the Line actor shot the hard-hitting commercial, in which he is shown panicking and struggling to breathe underwater, to highlight the horror of a fish’s death as part of a People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) campaign.

Heh.

259 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:25:56pm

Wow I was being sarcastic but this guy really thinks we should abolish child labor laws (unless I’m being pwn3d)

260 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:26:10pm

re: #253 Varek Raith

Hey!
That was simply George Lucas plotkai.
Doesn’t count.
:P

OK.

BTW, do antibiotics knock our your force powers?

261 Mattand  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:26:14pm

re: #108 stabby

Michael Ledeen’s latest derp on PJ Media is that the fact that Obama hasn’t invaded Syria is proof that he hates America.

I’m not exaggurating the argument in the slightest.

“There is an Obama Doctrine, but hardly anyone wants to acknowledge it. He favors anti-American dictators, and he couldn’t care less what they do to their people.”

“He favors Assad (who, whatever Kerry and Hegel have said, is an enemy) against a revolution that at least contained pro-American elements, now suffering from Obama’s betrayal.”

derpity derp derp derp!

Right. Because nation building worked out so well for the previous administration.

Hey, Charles: do you ever look at PJ Media and just shake your head?

262 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:26:39pm

re: #260 Kragar (Antichrist )

OK.

BTW, do antibiotics knock our your force powers?

Nope.

263 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:27:15pm

re: #247 Varek Raith

So…
Which one of you crashed my ship in Russian this morning???

My bad, forgot I had to think in Russian.

//

265 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:28:11pm

re: #262 Varek Raith

Nope.

Oh, an anti-vaxxer, that is just great.
/

266 Mattand  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:29:04pm

re: #259 Vicious Babushka

Wow I was being sarcastic but this guy really thinks we should abolish child labor laws (unless I’m being pwn3d)

I don’t think pwn3d so much as he thinks he outsmarted you by turning your statement against you. The #tgdn crowd isn’t exactly self-aware.

It took one derp-wad 5 tweets to figure out I was yanking his chain yesterday.

267 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:29:14pm

re: #263 Targetpractice

My bad, forgot I had to think in Russian.

//

Plus you were supposed to have a co-pilot, but you kept giving orders to an empty seat.

268 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:29:28pm

re: #254 stabby

I don’t remember misogyny being the question. Though sexual harassment at work is supposedly no long allowed.

Japan has a completely irredentialist right wing that was never quite submerged. BTW, hentai has been effectively banned for public display in Tokyo.

Fun Fact: The music composer for Enix’s Dragon Quest series is a militarist nationalist.

269 geoffm33  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:29:56pm

re: #266 Mattand

He finally caught on? I’ll have to go check it out.

270 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:30:21pm

re: #267 Kragar (Antichrist )

Plus you were supposed to have a co-pilot, but you kept giving orders to an empty seat.

I just thought he was really quiet.

//

271 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:30:56pm

re: #268 dragonath

Japan has a completely irredentialist right wing that was never quite submerged. BTW, hentai has been effectively banned for public display in Tokyo.

Fun Fact: The music composer for Enix’s Dragon Quest series is a militarist nationalist.

Koichi Sugiyama.
Yeppers.

272 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:33:07pm

re: #141 Lidane

What could possibly go wrong?

But “Bob” forbid there be any comprehensive sex ed.

273 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:33:19pm

re: #266 Mattand

I don’t think pwn3d so much as he thinks he outsmarted you by turning your statement against you. The #tgdn crowd is exactly self-aware.

It took one derp-wap 5 tweet to figure out I was yanking his chain yesterday.

Yes, because family farms and small family-run restaurants are JUST EXACTLY LIKE Walmart in exploiting their workers.

Actually I think “family farms” and “family-run restaurants” were exempt from child labor laws at first, until they were just blatantly abusing their own kids.

274 geoffm33  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:33:37pm

re: #266 Mattand

Looks like he may have deleted the tweets :(

275 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:35:11pm

re: #273 Vicious Babushka

Yes, because family farms and small family-run restaurants are JUST EXACTLY LIKE Walmart in exploiting their workers.

Actually I think “family farms” and “family-run restaurants” were exempt from child labor laws at first, until they were just blatantly abusing their own kids.

Even now they have limited exemptions. But yeah, the full exemptions went away.

276 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:36:05pm

Going online to check my local supermarket’s online deals.

Their international cuisine section lists Soy Sauce and Salsa. That’s it.

277 Mentis Fugit  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:37:35pm

re: #233 sattv4u2

You’re shaped like a big penis??

“Dickhead” isn’t just a figure of speech.

278 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:38:21pm

re: #276 Kragar (Antichrist )

Going online to check my local supermarket’s online deals.

Their international cuisine section lists Soy Sauce and Salsa. That’s it.

What more do you need!?!?

Add either to just about anything and it’s exactly like being in Beijing or Rio!!
//

279 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:38:28pm

re: #248 Kragar (Antichrist )

Some farm kid was on earlier saying something about a thermal exhaust port.

You never heard of plywood?

Was that the kid talking about duct tape having a light side and a dark side?

280 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:38:54pm

re: #277 Mentis Fugit

“Dickhead” isn’t just a figure of speech.

Problem is, you’re always looking straight up to the sky!!!

281 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:39:08pm

re: #279 Feline Fearless Leader

Was that the kid talking about duct tape having a light side and a dark side?

Well, it does bind us all together.

282 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:39:24pm

re: #276 Kragar (Antichrist )

Going online to check my local supermarket’s online deals.

Their international cuisine section lists Soy Sauce and Salsa. That’s it.

That’s damn impressive.

283 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:39:57pm

re: #276 Kragar (Antichrist )

Going online to check my local supermarket’s online deals.

Their international cuisine section lists Soy Sauce and Salsa. That’s it.

I love supermarkets that just have an ‘ethnic’ section.

284 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:40:02pm

re: #275 kirkspencer

addendum. Here’s an example from Texas law:

Sec. 51.003. GENERAL EXEMPTIONS. (a) This chapter does not apply to employment of a child:
(1) employed:
(A) in a nonhazardous occupation;
(B) under the direct supervision of the child’s parent or an adult having custody of the child; and
(C) in a business or enterprise owned or operated by the parent or custodian;
(2) 11 years or older engaged in delivery of newspapers to the consumer;
(3) participating in a school-supervised and school-administered work-study program approved by the commission;
(4) employed in agriculture during a period when the child is not legally required to be attending school;
(5) employed through a rehabilitation program supervised by a county judge;
(6) engaged in nonhazardous casual employment that will not endanger the safety, health, or well-being of the child and to which the parent or adult having custody of the child has consented; or
(7) 16 years or older engaged in the direct sale of newspapers to the general public.
(b) In this section, “employment in agriculture” means engaged in producing crops or livestock and includes:
(1) cultivating and tilling the soil;
(2) producing, cultivating, growing, and harvesting an agricultural or horticultural commodity;
(3) dairying; and
(4) raising livestock, bees, fur-bearing animals, or poultry.
(c) For the purposes of Subsection (a)(6), the commission by rule may define nonhazardous casual employment that the commission determines is dangerous to the safety, health, or well-being of a child.

285 engineer cat  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:41:55pm

re: #277 Mentis Fugit

“Dickhead” isn’t just a figure of speech.

how about another fun fact to know and tell?

romans two thousand years ago might insult each other with the term ‘mentula’, which meant, exactly, ‘dickhead’

286 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:42:24pm

re: #283 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I love supermarkets that just have an ‘ethnic’ section.

I was visiting a friend in rural southern Illinois a few years back and offered to help cook one day. So we hit the local market and I said that I’d go over through the produce section and then go look for a few spices. When he told me “good luck with that” I knew I was in trouble.

287 Mattand  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:43:21pm

re: #274 geoffm33

Looks like he may have deleted the tweets :(

Huh. I still have them in my e-mail. Will investigate.

288 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:44:37pm

re: #283 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I love supermarkets that just have an ‘ethnic’ section.

Hey, they have a third of an aisle out of about 30 which has Jewish, Asian, and Mexican food! The rest of the aisle is all tomato sauce and pasta related, so that’s Italian right?

289 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:46:14pm

Mefferd: Gay Rights Should Not ‘Trump the Rights of Christians’ to Not See Gays

After lamenting that “public schools are morally bankrupt,” Mefferd asserted that proms which allow all students — gay or straight — to attend actually violate the rights of Christian students who disapprove of homosexuality.

What right in particular, you might ask?

According to Mefferd, apparently the right of students not to even see gay people!

She maintained that the students’ desire not to see gay students outweighs the rights of gay students to attend their own prom.

“Why should the rights of the [gay] activists trump the rights of Christians” who don’t want “to see that,” Mefferd asked.

290 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:46:26pm

re: #284 kirkspencer

addendum. Here’s an example from Texas law:

(b) In this section, “employment in agriculture” means engaged in producing crops or livestock and includes:
(1) cultivating and tilling the soil;
(2) producing, cultivating, growing, and harvesting an agricultural or horticultural commodity;

So, all the Mexicans who work at the big agri plantations can bring their kids with them! amirite?

291 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:46:26pm

re: #286 Feline Fearless Leader

I was visiting a friend in rural southern Illinois a few years back and offered to help cook one day. So we hit the local market and I said that I’d go over through the produce section and then go look for a few spices. When he told me “good luck with that” I knew I was in trouble.

When I lived in Boston we had a cottage on an island off the coast of Portland Maine
One (very small) grocery store on the island. They would get their “fresh” veggie deliveries mon wed and fri at about 8 a.m (via a ferry from Portland

If you were at the store by 8:15 you might,,, MIGHT be lucky enough to get a small bunch of carrots!

292 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:46:32pm

re: #288 Kragar (Antichrist )

Hey, they have a third of an aisle out of about 30 which has Jewish, Asian, and Mexican food! The rest of the aisle is all tomato sauce and pasta related, so that’s Italian right?

Not to mention their “Hawaiian” section next to the canned pineapple.

293 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:47:11pm

re: #288 Kragar (Antichrist )

Hey, they have a third of an aisle out of about 30 which has Jewish, Asian, and Mexican food! The rest of the aisle is all tomato sauce and pasta related, so that’s Italian right?

Doubles as Chinese!!

294 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:47:55pm

Texas Republican moves to abolish state’s consumer insurance advocate

A state consumer insurance advocate’s office could be shuttered in Texas just as it is making progress on blocking massive rate hike hammering homeowners across the state who are insured through State Farm, if a Republican state senator gets his way.

A bill filed Thursday by Sen. Kelly Hancock (pictured) of north Texas would, according to The Dallas Morning News, shut down the Office of Public Insurance Counsel, a key consumer advocate in the state’s insurance rulemaking process.

The bill comes immediately after the insurance counsel made strides toward blocking a 20 percent rate increase for homeowner’s insurance implemented by State Farm late last year. A hearing on the matter before an administrative law judge was set for March 4, according to an agency release issued Thursday (PDF).

295 erik_t  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:48:04pm

re: #289 Kragar (Antichrist )

Mefferd: Gay Rights Should Not ‘Trump the Rights of Christians’ to Not See Gays

I’ll buy you some blinders, you dumb fucking bigot.

296 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:49:22pm

re: #293 sattv4u2

Doubles as Chinese!!

And Thai as well. Then again I do substitute spaghetti for chinese noodles in my spicy sesame noodle recipe. (And which I personally think is superior to that served by a couple of the local Chinese restaurants.)

297 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:50:14pm

re: #289 Kragar (Antichrist )

“Teh gay don’t have any rights the non-gay are bound to respect.”

Just a little Roger Taney’s greatest hits, adapted for the 21st century.

298 engineer cat  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:50:24pm

re: #290 Vicious Babushka

So, all the Mexicans who work at the big agri plantations can bring their kids with them! amirite?

in practice, it seems to mean that chinese and mexican children are allowed to work at any age

299 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:50:26pm

re: #295 erik_t

I’ll buy you some blinders, you dumb fucking bigot.

More viciously, since I have no patience for bigots any more: “If thine eye offend thee, pluck it out…” seem applicable.

300 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:50:34pm

re: #295 erik_t

I’ll buy you some blinders, you dumb fucking bigot.

Should ask him about the right of non-Christians to not see Christian prayer in school. Oh wait, logic and rational thought are not part of the process, are they?
//

301 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:51:08pm

re: #295 erik_t

I’ll buy you some blinders, you dumb fucking bigot.

Apparently if you disapprove of someone, their mere existence deprives you of your rights.

I’ll be suing Fischer and his ilk for infringing on my rights post-haste.

302 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:51:26pm

re: #294 Kragar (Antichrist )

Because consumer rights advocates and consumers themselves are marxist communistic soshulists. And probably muslim, too.

FREEDOM!!

/

303 geoffm33  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:51:44pm

re: #287 Mattand

Yeah, looks like he deleted his end of the back-and-forth.

304 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:53:08pm

re: #302 Bulworth

Because consumer rights advocates and consumers themselves are marxist communistic soshulists. And probably muslim, too.

FREEDOM!!

/

Technically, the Texas GOP could be accused of tyrannically oppressing homeowners forcing them to pay higher insurance, which means 2nd Amendment advocates would have no choice but to take to the streets.

305 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:54:20pm

re: #294 Kragar (Antichrist )

“Consumer advocates and the like are outside agitators trying to cause trouble between our consumers and our business leaders. Our consumers have been mighty happy down here without these so-called advocates stirrin ‘em up.”

/

306 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:55:15pm

re: #155 stabby

If $9 is too high for the minimum wage is $7somthing too high too?

How low would be low enough for Republicans?
50¢?
20¢
2¢?

In the GOP Free labor market ideal, the entire American workforce would be lined up outside the Home Depot or the business park and bosses would drive up with pickups and announce what they were paying for labor that day. “I need two key accounts managers, two bookeepers, four salespeople and two IT staff”. You could take the offer or wait for the next truck.

307 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:55:33pm

California Lawmaker Pushing Gun Control Got Death Threat

“The author of the email specifically stated that if I did not cease our legislative efforts to stop gun violence that he would assassinate me in or around the Capitol,” Yee said in a statement released Thursday. “He stated that he was a trained sniper and his email detailed certain weapons he possessed.”

Yee said the email “was not a racist rant on my ethnicity or culture, but instead it was very deliberate and specific.” His office immediately notified law enforcement.

Thursday’s statement came after authorities made an arrest in the case. On Tuesday, law enforcement officials arrested Everett Basham, 45, a Silicon Valley engineer, according to The Los Angeles Times.

308 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:56:00pm

re: #283 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I love supermarkets that just have an ‘ethnic’ section.

It’s been years since I’ve seen that. The last time would’ve been in the early 90s. “Ethnic Foods”, as I recall.

309 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:56:42pm

re: #159 Kragar (Antichrist )

Rick Wiles: President Obama Has ‘Spiritually Sodomized’ the Military and the Nation

The he will philanthropically fellate America’s faith-based initiatives…

310 efuseakay  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:57:06pm

re: #225 Vicious Babushka

Jesus Christ these people are fucking stupid. My head hurts.

And all the military families on food stamps too… Dare he question their patriotism?

311 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:57:42pm

re: #310 efuseakay

And all the military families on good stamps too… Dare he question their patriotism?

as opposed to bad stamps?

312 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:58:06pm

re: #195 HappyWarrior

Yep. But this is the American wingnut who actually believes that there’s a large portion of the country that pays no taxes at all.

47%

313 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:58:41pm

re: #309 Sol Berdinowitz

So glad I got out of the fundy world when I did.

314 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:59:09pm

re: #288 Kragar (Antichrist )

Hey, they have a third of an aisle out of about 30 which has Jewish, Asian, and Mexican food! The rest of the aisle is all tomato sauce and pasta related, so that’s Italian right?

“Can’t even get decent food - right after I got here, I ordered some spaghetti with marinara sauce, and I got egg noodles and ketchup. I’m an average nobody; I get to live the rest of my life like a schnook.”

315 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:59:31pm

re: #308 Dr Lizardo

It’s been years since I’ve seen that. The last time would’ve been in the early 90s. “Ethnic Foods”, as I recall.

I still see the equivalent, though I don’t recall if there is a “label” on the aisle. Go into Wegman’s and there is a section that has the specialized brands for a number of cuisines; Thai, Chinese, Indian, Mexican, Jewish, etc. all in one general area. And you can find some of the same ingredients elsewhere in the store; black beans for instance. Store brand is in one area with other canned beans, but there are also certain brands of black bean in with the other special items considered “Mexican cuisine”.

316 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:59:39pm

Remember folks, to the GOP, support our troops means they support having them die for bullshit reasons supplied with equipment they don’t want, not actually listening to troops or taking care of them when they return home.

317 jamesfirecat  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:00:43pm

re: #20 stabby

Just don’t play his interviews with John Oliver on The Daily Show. They’re SOOOO painful.

If by painful you mean hilarious.

318 Mattand  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:01:06pm

re: #303 geoffm33

Yeah, looks like he deleted his end of the back-and-forth.

Well, you zap a paramecium enough times, it’ll eventually register something.

What’s really funny is that I actually wasn’t that harsh to him. I need to check if he’s still following me. He reflexively added me to his feed, I’m guessing because I put #tgdn in the tweet.

319 Bulworth  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:01:53pm

re: #304 Kragar (Antichrist )

There used to be a website called evilgopbastards or something like that. Maybe it still exists. The GOPteabag’s war on consumers fits right in there with the long list of evil, not to mention baffling, things the GOP’s done over the years.

320 efuseakay  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:02:43pm

re: #311 Kragar (Antichrist )

as opposed to bad stamps?

Boo. iPhone. I fixeded it.

321 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:03:19pm

re: #314 Dr Lizardo

“Can’t even get decent food - right after I got here, I ordered some spaghetti with marinara sauce, and I got egg noodles and ketchup. I’m an average nobody; I get to live the rest of my life like a schnook.”

His best roll by far. He was absolutely perfect for the part. The look, the age, the mannerisms.

322 kirkspencer  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:03:42pm

An LT or SSG and below with a wife and children gets WIC. They might (usually) qualify for other assistance.

There are so many things wrong with that I find it hard to continue.

323 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:04:54pm

re: #289 Kragar (Antichrist )

Mefferd: Gay Rights Should Not ‘Trump the Rights of Christians’ to Not See Gays

A generation ago, the idea of interracial couples being at a prom together was outrageous. A generation before that, the idea of blacks being anywhere near a white school prom was grounds for torches and pitchforks.

Time marches on, leaving these dinosaurs in the dust.

324 Mattand  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:05:00pm

re: #295 erik_t

I’ll buy you some blinders, you dumb fucking bigot.

I think a lot of the more odious god bots realize they’re on the ropes. Won’t happen tomorrow, but I’m guessing by the time I’m ready to retire, their influence on US politics will on a serious drop.

325 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:10:37pm

re: #324 Mattand

I think a lot of the more odious god bots realize they’re on the ropes. Won’t happen tomorrow, but I’m guessing by the time I’m ready to retire, their influence on US politics will on a serious drop.

Thre is a problem, though, the more tenuous their hold on actual political power, the louder they will shout and the more provocative they will be in their attempts to portray the “injustices” that have been done on their “christian nation”, which has been “spiritually sodomized”.

still just cannot get over that image, or rather the fact that they are so hung up that image.

326 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:11:43pm

re: #315 Feline Fearless Leader

I still see the equivalent, though I don’t recall if there is a “label” on the aisle. Go into Wegman’s and there is a section that has the specialized brands for a number of cuisines; Thai, Chinese, Indian, Mexican, Jewish, etc. all in one general area. And you can find some of the same ingredients elsewhere in the store; black beans for instance. Store brand is in one area with other canned beans, but there are also certain brands of black bean in with the other special items considered “Mexican cuisine”.

Here in the Czech Republic, in the stores that have it, it’s “Mezinarodní Kuchyně” or International Cuisine. Which is everything that’s not either Czech or Central European.

Tortilla chips and salsa are considered international cuisine here. I’M SO EXOTIC IN MY TASTES!!

327 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:12:46pm

re: #325 Sol Berdinowitz

Thre is a problem, though, the more tenuous their hold on actual political power, the louder they will shout and the more provocative they will be in their attempts to portray the “injustices” that have been done on their “christian nation”, which has been “spiritually sodomized”.

still just cannot get over that image, or rather the fact that they are so hung up that image.

I like to tell myself the louder they get, the more graphic their imagery, and the crazier their spewing, the quicker they’ll fall from grace.

328 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:13:22pm

re: #306 Sol Berdinowitz

In the GOP Free labor market ideal, the entire American workforce would be lined up outside the Home Depot or the business park and bosses would drive up with pickups and announce what they were paying for labor that day. “I need two key accounts managers, two bookeepers, four salespeople and two IT staff”. You could take the offer or wait for the next truck.

Might be better than the alternative free market model of indentured servitude for student loan debt that we are getting closer to. That fact that such debt can no longer be gotten rid of via bankruptcy is telling.

329 Mattand  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:19:04pm

re: #325 Sol Berdinowitz

Thre is a problem, though, the more tenuous their hold on actual political power, the louder they will shout and the more provocative they will be in their attempts to portray the “injustices” that have been done on their “christian nation”, which has been “spiritually sodomized”.

still just cannot get over that image, or rather the fact that they are so hung up that image.

“So, is that a violation to the Constitution in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?”

330 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:19:17pm

How much are they paying Herman? more than $15.00 a word?

331 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:21:18pm

re: #314 Dr Lizardo

“Can’t even get decent food - right after I got here, I ordered some spaghetti with marinara sauce, and I got egg noodles and ketchup. I’m an average nobody; I get to live the rest of my life like a schnook.”

I still like that movie. I think it’s Ray Liotta’s smile.

332 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:21:24pm

re: #330 FemNaziBitch

How much are they paying Herman? more than $15.00 a word?

$9.99 a word.

333 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:22:09pm

re: #332 Dr Lizardo

$9.99 a word.

NO way, he wouldn’t take less than Sarah got!!

334 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:22:40pm

re: #331 FemNaziBitch

I’ve shown it for English lessons, believe it or not, for my advanced students, so they can hear differing accents in American English (in this case, New York/New Jersey accents).

335 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:23:51pm

re: #298 engineer cat

in practice, it seems to mean that chinese and mexican children are allowed to work at any age

Well, U.S. laws don’t apply to China & Mexico, although U.S. corporations should be sanctioned for contracting to overseas factories that employ children and where workers frequently burn to death like they did back in the old Triangle Shirtwaist days.

336 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:23:53pm

re: #334 Dr Lizardo

I’ve shown it for English lessons, believe it or not, for my advanced students, so they can hear differing accents in American English (in this case, New York/New Jersey accents).

Lorraine Bracco has a distinct speaking style as well.

337 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:24:00pm

re: #333 FemNaziBitch

NO way, he wouldn’t take less than Sarah got!!

LOL. Ah, the GOP grifters. Sweet, sweet wingnut welfare. It’s a hell of a scam; run for office, lose, get a gig on Fox News Channel.

And here I’ve been busting my back like a chump. The REAL money is in GOP politics!

338 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:24:37pm

re: #337 Dr Lizardo

LOL. Ah, the GOP grifters. Sweet, sweet wingnut welfare. It’s a hell of a scam; run for office, lose, get a gig on Fox News Channel.

And here I’ve been busting my back like a chump. The REAL money is in GOP politics!

Yes, campaigns are a national industry.

339 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:25:26pm

re: #336 FemNaziBitch

Lorraine Bracco has a distinct speaking style as well.

Definitely. A few of my students have cringed at the violence, but as I’ve said, look….we’re dealing with organized crime here. The Mob doesn’t invite you over for coffee and cookies when you make a mistake or do something you weren’t supposed to. They kill you. Violently.

340 RadicalModerate  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:25:45pm

re: #176 NJDhockeyfan

Bay Area man accused of threatening to kill state senator

It’s not the first time that some rightwing racist has threatened the life of Senator Yee.

Remember this one from a couple of years back when he had the audacity to call out Rush Limbaugh on a racist rant he went on?
[Link: blog.sfgate.com…]

341 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:26:41pm

re: #338 FemNaziBitch

Yes, campaigns are a national industry.

As is, apparently, fleecing gullible wingnuts with neurotic, half-baked theories and platitudes.

342 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:28:58pm

re: #341 Dr Lizardo

As is, apparently, fleecing gullible wingnuts with neurotic, half-baked theories and platitudes.

There is a sucker born every minute …

343 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:29:25pm

re: #341 Dr Lizardo

As is, apparently, fleecing gullible wingnuts with neurotic, half-baked theories and platitudes.

It is about selling advertising time. The platitudes and half-baked thories are there to attract viewers/listeners to make the advertising time more interesting to the potential advertisers.

If you want to advertise to the gullible and ill-informed, then these people have your target demographic nailed down for you.

344 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:31:00pm

re: #343 Sol Berdinowitz

It is about selling advertising time. The platitudes and half-baked thories are there to attract viewers/listeners to make the advertising time more interesting to the potential advertisers.

If you want to advertise to the gullible and ill-informed, then these people have your target demographic nailed down for you.

Politics is one of our many Soma Tablets.

345 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:31:52pm

re: #344 FemNaziBitch

Politics is one of our many Soma Tablets.

You can fool Soma the people Soma the time…

346 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:32:19pm

re: #339 Dr Lizardo

Definitely. A few of my students have cringed at the violence, but as I’ve said, look….we’re dealing with organized crime here. The Mob doesn’t invite you over for coffee and cookies when you make a mistake or do something you weren’t supposed to. They kill you. Violently.

I found most of the violence in that movie hilarious. I don’t know why, perhaps it’s the way the whole movie was presented. It’s not a heavy drama. One friend was really freaked by the violence, I just shook my head. I mean, it’s a movie.

347 thedopefishlives  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:32:56pm

Evening Lizardim from the bitterly cold wild north country. Much ado about the meteor strike in Russia, and I have to admit, that would’ve absolutely terrified me. Those Russians are some hardcore people - but I suppose you’d have to be. It also made me think of Sergey; I hope he’s alright and not languishing in a real (not Twitter) Gulag somewhere.

348 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:33:10pm

re: #342 FemNaziBitch

There is a sucker born every minute …

Fooling some of the people all of the time (per PT Barnum) has been a very profitable business for Fox News et al.

Their costs must be getting very low by now, since research etc. is unnecessary. They don’t even have to pay people to sit around and make crap up.

Instead, they just have to go to the internet and decide which kook bombs are ready for their version of prime time.

349 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:33:42pm

Speaking of spaghetti, my Mom (the meat and potatoes bred German-American) would make spaghetti and use tomato sauce from the can for the sauce. No flavoring, no nothing —straight tomato sauce.

350 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:34:16pm

bbl

351 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:35:03pm

re: #349 FemNaziBitch

Speaking of spaghetti, my Mom (the meat and potatoes bred German-American) would make spaghetti and use tomato sauce from the can for the sauce. No flavoring, no nothing —straight tomato sauce.

And now you know why there are seasoned cans of tomato sauce in the stores. Heh.

352 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:35:23pm

re: #349 FemNaziBitch

Speaking of spaghetti, my Mom (the meat and potatoes bred German-American) would make spaghetti and use tomato sauce from the can for the sauce. No flavoring, no nothing —straight tomato sauce.

Our big family treat (at christmas and easter) a package of ore-ida frozen hash browns baked en casserole with a jar of cheez-whiz, a jar of pimentos and a tub of sour cream.

353 darthstar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:38:29pm

Scott Brown must be impressed to be part of the same Freshman Fox class as Herman Cain and Erick Erickson…

354 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:40:42pm

re: #316 Kragar (Antichrist )

Remember folks, to the GOP, support our troops means they support having them die for bullshit reasons supplied with equipment they don’t want, not actually listening to troops or taking care of them when they return home.

And when someone writes a song pointing that out, the same GOP nutters think it’s a patriotic anthem:

355 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:42:12pm

re: #346 FemNaziBitch

I found most of the violence in that movie hilarious. I don’t know why, perhaps it’s the way the whole movie was presented. It’s not a heavy drama. One friend was really freaked by the violence, I just shook my head. I mean, it’s a movie.

One movie where I can say I found the violence hilarious was “Koroshiya Ichi”….”Ichi the Killer” by Takashi Miike. It was so utterly over-the-top I couldn’t help but laugh.

356 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:44:07pm

re: #349 FemNaziBitch

re: #351 Lidane

And now you know why there are seasoned cans of tomato sauce in the stores. Heh.

I still do it the way my grandmother taught me
Canned whole tomatoes and a can of tomato paste. All the seasoning I do manually.

357 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:44:07pm

re: #355 Dr Lizardo

One movie where I can say I found the violence hilarious was “Koroshiya Ichi”….”Ichi the Killer” by Takashi Miike. It was so utterly over-the-top I couldn’t help but laugh.

The girl at the hibachi grill scene crossed the line for me.

358 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:44:58pm

re: #352 Sol Berdinowitz

Our big family treat (at christmas and easter) a package of ore-ida frozen hash browns baked en casserole with a jar of cheez-whiz, a jar of pimentos and a tub of sour cream.

I thought you said “treat”!!!

//

359 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:45:08pm

American Life League: Excommunicate Catholic Democrats for Being Under ‘Demonic Deceit’

American Life League founder Judie Brown says that the Roman Catholic Church must drive out pro-choice and pro-gay equality Catholics from the church because they are under “demonic deceit.”

She argues that Catholic Democrats such as the late Ted Kennedy, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi and Kathleen Sebelius advocate “anti-Christian” positions such as the decriminalization of abortion and “anti-family militant homosexuality and the destruction of marriage.”

“As the faithful watch the accelerated destruction of morality in America and the Henry the VIII style tactics of the attempted destruction of Catholicism in America by Obama and his ‘Catholic’ drones, one wonders where most of America’s bishops are,” Brown laments, “Why have these high-profile destructive Catholics not been publically rebuked?”

360 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:46:16pm

re: #353 darthstar

Scott Brown must be impressed to be part of the same Freshman Fox class as Herman Cain and Erick Erickson…

He’ll be gone first; he actually has more than one functioning brain cell…

361 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:47:43pm

re: #360 William Barnett-Lewis

He’ll be gone first; he actually has more than one functioning brain cell…

He served his purpose.

362 HoosierHoops  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:48:22pm

I AM THE MAGIC MAN!
I just got a call from a friend in Napa. There is a lady there claiming I’m the father of her baby. I just had to laugh. She probably doesn’t know I’ve been in Oklahoma for the last couple of years. I guess I’m a popular guy in Napa still. If she wants to sue me can I counter sue her? Where is Lawhawk?

363 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:49:02pm

re: #362 HoosierHoops

I AM THE MAGIC MAN!
I just got a call from a friend in Napa. There is a lady there claiming I’m the father of her baby. I just had to laugh. She probably doesn’t know I’ve been in Oklahoma for the last couple of years. I guess I’m a popular guy in Napa still. If she wants to sue me can I counter sue her? Where is Lawhawk?

The baby is 3 years old!!!
/

364 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:49:49pm

re: #362 HoosierHoops

I AM THE MAGIC MAN!
I just got a call from a friend in Napa. There is a lady there claiming I’m the father of her baby. I just had to laugh. She probably doesn’t know I’ve been in Oklahoma for the last couple of years. I guess I’m a popular guy in Napa still. If she wants to sue me can I counter sue her? Where is Lawhawk?

But where has your evil twin been the last few years?

365 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:50:18pm

re: #359 Kragar (Antichrist )

American Life League: Excommunicate Catholic Democrats for Being Under ‘Demonic Deceit’

Dear nutbar,

Most of the bishops are either currently busy trying to avoid lawsuits due to the child rape scandal, or they’re busy trying to figure out how the hell to bring people into the priesthood since 99.99% of Catholics want to either get married or get laid (or both!) at some point before they die.

I’d tell you to go fuck yourself, but I suspect that would be a really boring experience for whichever hand you use.

No love,
Me

366 Skip Intro  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:50:21pm

re: #221 HappyWarrior

Yeah I believe that’s the 1992 RNC keynote speech.

Culture War Speech Part 1

Culture War Speech Part 2

367 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:51:14pm

re: #359 Kragar (Antichrist )

My favorite bit of the linked article is right at the end:

Pray that each bishop will be touched by the Holy Spirit, on fire with a renewal of commitment to Christ and an active desire to abandon everything else in order to defend Christ and His Church from sacrilege—even unto death if that be God’s will.

They so very badly want their martyr cookies.

368 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:51:48pm

re: #354 Lidane

And when someone writes a song pointing that out, the same GOP nutters think it’s a patriotic anthem:

[Embedded content]

Kinda OT, but since I wasn’t here during the inauguration threads, were there any wingnuts going crazy over the invocation?

We now stand beneath the shadow nation’s Capitol whose golden dome reflects the unity and democracy of one nation, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

I could feel the “Under God” crowd collectively spasm.

369 JeffFX  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:54:02pm

re: #289 Kragar (Antichrist )

Everything is so upside down in our society now and right and wrong have completely switched

I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find that Janet is standing on her head.

More seriously, this is a snapshot of what I believe a large number of Americans are going through. Their whole world has been turned upside-down because they have been so completely misled by their parents and peers.

They have a lot of ridiculous beliefs, and it’s very difficult to adjust to reality now that the bubbles are popping due to the Internet. They’re going through a really bad time, and we should all try to right as many of these upside-down people as possible.

370 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:54:13pm

re: #368 dragonath

Kinda OT, but since I wasn’t here during the inauguration threads, were there any wingnuts going crazy over the invocation?

LOL yes.

Mostly, they were going nuts that TEH SEEKRIT MOOZLIM KENYAN was getting inaugurated again. The rest was details.

371 darthstar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:54:49pm

re: #352 Sol Berdinowitz

Our big family treat (at christmas and easter) a package of ore-ida frozen hash browns baked en casserole with a jar of cheez-whiz, a jar of pimentos and a tub of sour cream.

Holy crap. I would have starved to death in that house.

372 aagcobb  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:55:03pm

re: #362 HoosierHoops

I AM THE MAGIC MAN!
I just got a call from a friend in Napa. There is a lady there claiming I’m the father of her baby. I just had to laugh. She probably doesn’t know I’ve been in Oklahoma for the last couple of years. I guess I’m a popular guy in Napa still. If she wants to sue me can I counter sue her? Where is Lawhawk?

It probably wouldn’t be worth the bother. If they can’t get service of process on you, they can’t get a judgment. But if you do get served, make damn sure you respond so you don’t get a default judgment entered against you. If you ignore it, in a few years you could end up owing tens of thousands of dollars you could be legally libel to pay even though you aren’t the father.

373 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:56:20pm

re: #371 darthstar

Holy crap. I would have starved to death in that house.

hence, 358!

374 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:56:48pm

re: #372 aagcobb

I second the advice to take anything that looks like official business seriously. The legal system has a way of grinding anything caught in its gears to dust.

375 JeffFX  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:56:57pm

re: #366 Skip Intro

That was the moment I realized that the Republican party had gone off the rails. Pat created a lot of Democrats that day.

376 Political Atheist  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:57:08pm

re: #362 HoosierHoops

I AM THE MAGIC MAN!
I just got a call from a friend in Napa. There is a lady there claiming I’m the father of her baby. I just had to laugh. She probably doesn’t know I’ve been in Oklahoma for the last couple of years. I guess I’m a popular guy in Napa still. If she wants to sue me can I counter sue her? Where is Lawhawk?

Must be a secret twin brother. //
I think I saw a movie like that, or a crime show maybe.

377 JeffFX  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:58:57pm

re: #362 HoosierHoops

You are now the most virile man I’ve ever known.

378 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:59:04pm

re: #376 Political Atheist

Must be a secret twin brother. //
I think I saw a movie like that, or a crime show maybe.

If I were Hoosiers twin, I’d keep it a secret also!!

379 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 2:59:38pm

re: #375 JeffFX

That was the moment I realized that the Republican party had gone off the rails. Pat created a lot of Democrats that day.

If I remember correctly, I do believe Colin Powell later said he was flabbergasted by Pat’s speech to the GOP convention. I think he called it a “Nuremburg Rally” or something to that effect.

380 aagcobb  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:02:04pm

re: #359 Kragar (Antichrist )

American Life League: Excommunicate Catholic Democrats for Being Under ‘Demonic Deceit’

According to exit polling, the President got half the Catholic vote, more than Romney. There would be a lot of empty pews and collection plates if they were all excommunicated!

381 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:02:39pm

re: #366 Skip Intro

Culture War Speech Part 1

Culture War Speech Part 2

Ladies and gents, the moment I resolved to never vote for a Republican president.

Curing myself of the impulse to vote GOP for local and state races out of a misguided sense of balance took a while longer.

382 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:02:43pm

Why is The Pope retiring? Glenn has a theory

I think the speculation that this black pope from Africa, they keep holding him up and everybody’s like, “Hey, he’s going to be the next pope,” I think that that is a ruse. I think that’s being done by those Catholics who are also in the Vatican who he’s at war with, holding him ‑‑ holding this guy up and trying to create momentum for him. Because he’s a socialist. He’s a real diehard socialist kind of Marxist guy.

He’s a Marxist through and through, which is not what this Pope is. And that’s who he’s been at war with the whole time. I think that’s a ruse to try to get public sentiment to accept that this Marxist is going to be the next pope. And I think this Pope is out because he stacked the deck.

I’m so happy Glenn has found another black man he can call a socialist.
/

383 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:03:01pm

re: #375 JeffFX

That was the moment I realized that the Republican party had gone off the rails. Pat created a lot of Democrats that day.

I got my first passport shortly after Buchanan won the 1996 NH GOP primary, because of that event.

My mother’s parents emigrated from Germany to the US as Hitler was coming to power. In their old age, they lived in AZ, and were staunch conservatives. They loved Ronald Reagan. However, Buchanan was too much for them. Grandpa said Buchanan talked like a Nazi, and he should know.

384 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:03:11pm

re: #380 aagcobb

According to exit polling, the President got half the Catholic vote, more than Romney. There would be a lot of empty pews and collection plates if they were all excommunicated!

No true Catholic…

385 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:03:35pm

re: #381 Lidane

Ladies and gents, the moment I resolved to never vote for a Republican president.

Curing myself of the impulse to vote GOP for local and state races out of a misguided sense of balance took a while longer.

This would be my moment.

386 darthstar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:03:40pm
387 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:04:22pm

re: #382 Kragar (Antichrist )

Why is The Pope retiring? Glenn has a theory

I’m so happy Glenn has found another black man he can call a socialist.
/

The candidate in question, Cardinal Turkson, also has Muslim family members.

Heh…..that should get the wingnuts worked up into a fine frenzy.

388 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:05:19pm

re: #382 Kragar (Antichrist )

Why is The Pope retiring? Glenn has a theory

I’m so happy Glenn has found another black man he can call a socialist.
/

because the Church gives a shit about anything than itself.

389 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:06:07pm

re: #375 JeffFX

Yet a militant leader of the homosexual rights movement could rise at that convention and exult: “Bill Clinton and Al Gore represent the most pro-lesbian and pro-gay ticket in history.” And so they do.

If they were that nuts in 1992, Obama is sending them into apoplexy.

390 aagcobb  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:06:48pm

re: #387 Dr Lizardo

The candidate in question, Cardinal Turkson, also has Muslim family members.

Heh…..that should get the wingnuts worked up into a fine frenzy.

I charge the Cardinal is a seekrit mooslum, which means it must now be looked into./

391 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:07:20pm

Day of Resistance: Feb 23rd Nationwide Rallies to Challenge Obama Agenda

Conservatives and Tea Partiers plan to reignite the flame of 2010 next Saturday at rallies in cities and towns across America. The event is titled the “Day of Resistance,” and head organizer Dustin Stockton told Breitbart News that February 23 was picked as the date for several reasons.

“The first is one which I’ve been getting ruthlessly abused for and that is because the AR-15 caliber is .223,” Stockton said in a phone interview. “It’s also the day that we raised the flag in Iwo Jima and it’s also a Saturday, so people who work regular hours can also attend.”

392 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:08:12pm

re: #389 dragonath

If they were that nuts in 1992, Obama is sending them into apoplexy.

In 1992, the assorted nutjobs (Buchananites etc.) were still on the fringes of the party. Now they run it.

393 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:08:13pm

re: #390 aagcobb

I charge the Cardinal is a seekrit mooslum, which means it must now be looked into./

Check his jewelry for a decoder ring!

394 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:08:27pm

re: #391 Kragar (Antichrist )

Conservatives and Tea Partiers plan to reignite the flame of 2010 next Saturday at rallies in cities and towns across America. The event is titled the “Day of Resistance,” and head organizer Dustin Stockton told Breitbart News that February 23 was picked as the date for several reasons.

“The first is one which I’ve been getting ruthlessly abused for and that is because the AR-15 caliber is .223,” Stockton said in a phone interview. “It’s also the day that we raised the flag in Iwo Jima and it’s also a Saturday, so people who work regular hours can also attend.”

Day of Resistance: Feb 23rd Nationwide Rallies to Challenge Obama Agenda

:0

395 Kragar (Antichrist )  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:08:38pm

And I’m off to an appointment. Later

396 aagcobb  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:10:05pm

re: #391 Kragar (Antichrist )

Day of Resistance: Feb 23rd Nationwide Rallies to Challenge Obama Agenda

No matter what the lamestream media claims, there will be at least 50 million real Americans at these rallies.

397 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:11:19pm

re: #396 aagcobb

No matter what the lamestream media claims, there will be at least 50 million real Americans at these rallies.

Billions and billions of real Americans.

398 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:12:10pm

re: #390 aagcobb

I charge the Cardinal is a seekrit mooslum, which means it must now be looked into./

We must place a hold on his nomination until this matter can be resolved!1!!

I wonder how the wingnuts would react in the event he was indeed to become Pope? Will they completely lose their marbles?

399 darthstar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:12:32pm

Any pictures of the impact zone from that meteorite in Russia yet?

400 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:13:51pm

re: #399 darthstar

Any pictures of the impact zone from that meteorite in Russia yet?

[Link: media.talkingpointsmemo.com…]

401 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:13:57pm

re: #159 Kragar (Antichrist )

Rick Wiles: President Obama Has ‘Spiritually Sodomized’ the Military and the Nation

He can’t fool us, he’s a spiritual bottom. He loves it.

You know it’s odd that none of the Android browsers can handle javascript on a page this long even on a tablet with plenty of memory. It’s not possible to his “quote” or anything on them on a page this size. You’d think the android versions would just work. I guess we need a trace compiler for ARM.

402 darthstar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:15:15pm

re: #400 Varek Raith

[Link: media.talkingpointsmemo.com…]

Thanks…that’s a pretty clean hole.

403 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:15:44pm

re: #389 dragonath

If they were that nuts in 1992, Obama is sending them into apoplexy.

In 1992, the Buchananites were on the fringe in the GOP, and the teabagger morans had all split off to help get Clinton elected support Ross Perot and his “common sense”.

These days, they’re all together in a giant burlap sack of crazy.

404 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:16:09pm

It was about 10 tons and was going 33,000mph when it hit the atmosphere.
Not much left after that encounter.

405 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:16:30pm

re: #394 FemNaziBitch

“Day of resistance?”

I ask the question “resisting what” when I read that Iran, Syria and Hezbollah have long called themselves “the resistance block”

It’s that DARVO again.

406 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:16:41pm

re: #387 Dr Lizardo

The candidate in question, Cardinal Turkson, also has Muslim family members.

Heh…..that should get the wingnuts worked up into a fine frenzy.

How so

The Pope had a pretty good record reaching out to Muslims (as well as Jews and athiests)
[Link: www.google.com…]

407 aagcobb  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:17:12pm

re: #398 Dr Lizardo

I wonder how the wingnuts would react in the event he was indeed to become Pope? Will they completely lose their marbles?

That implies they have marbles left to lose.

408 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:17:12pm

re: #406 sattv4u2

How so

The Pope had a pretty good record reaching out to Muslims (as well as Jews and athiests)
[Link: www.google.com…]

Wingnuts hate Muslims, that’s way.

409 ReamWorks SKG  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:17:34pm

Bus transporting Carnival Cruise passengers crashes into sewage treatment plant

[Link: www.theonion.com…]

410 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:18:05pm

re: #409 ReamWorks SKG

Bus transporting Carnival Cruise passengers crashes into sewage treatment plant

[Link: www.theonion.com…]

Lol.

411 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:18:16pm

re: #403 Lidane

In 1992, the Buchananites were on the re: #39 stabby

fringe in the GOP, and the teabagger morans had all split off to help get Clinton elected support Ross Perot and his “common sense”.

These days, they’re all together in a giant burlap sack of crazy.

see what I said here

412 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:18:21pm

re: #408 Varek Raith

Wingnuts hate Muslims anyone other than wignuts, that’s way.

as I said ,, so,,,, ????

413 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:19:36pm

re: #412 sattv4u2

as I said ,, so,,,, ????

That’s the base the GOP is constantly pandering to.

414 Lidane  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:20:36pm

Gerson and Wehner: GOP Wins In 2010 ‘Now Seems More Like An Aberration’

Former Bush White House advisers Mike Gerson, who was W’s top speechwriter, and Pete Wehner, who worked on policy and strategic initiatives, are out today with the latest in a long line of articles on why the Republican party is in trouble, close on the heels of Robert Draper’s piece this week in the New York Times magazine.

Gerson and Wehner’s piece in Commentary magazine is, unsurprisingly, well-written, and includes some specific policy ideas that they think will help the GOP: pull a Roosevelt (Teddy) and break up the big banks; prison reform; an emphasis on worker training, and some others.

But the real strength of the piece is the historical perspectives they bring to the table. They go over the last few decades of presidential elections, and then trace the rebirth of the American Democratic Party led by Bill Clinton, and of the British Labour Party led by Tony Blair. The modern GOP, they argue, is in the same position and in the same need of dramatic reform.

The line that stood out to me was when they described the 2010 midterms, which marked the rise of the Tea Party.

“The resounding Republican midterm victory in 2010 now seems more like an aberration – a temporary backlash to presidential overreach – than evidence of an upward trend,” Wehner and Gerson write.

415 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:21:11pm

re: #413 Varek Raith

That’s the base the GOP is constantly pandering to.

It is? They weren’t too thrilled with the last two Repub candidates for Pres, so I guess they didn’t “pander” hard enough!!

417 stabby  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:22:05pm

re: #403 Lidane

Also can Ross Perot’s crazy even compare with Ron Paul? I’m too young to remember, but I made the mistake of hearing Ron Paul interviewed this morning.

418 dragonath  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:23:10pm

re: #392 EPR-radar

It’s disheartening to see areas that were moderately red in 2000 were psychotically so in 2012.

Interestingly enough, the only exceptions to this are the upper-Midwest and the Northeast. There’s a lot more local media in those areas, I think that has something to do with that.

419 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:23:18pm

re: #404 Varek Raith

It was about 10 tons and was going 33,000mph when it hit the atmosphere.
Not much left after that encounter.

There’ll be at LEAST that much (in small pieces) for sale on the internet within a week

And at least that many people buying!!!!

420 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:24:44pm

re: #406 sattv4u2

How so

The Pope had a pretty good record reaching out to Muslims (as well as Jews and athiests)
[Link: www.google.com…]

The wingnuts want the next Pope to call for an all-out Crusade against the Muslims, not reach out to them. And if the next Pope has family members who are of the Islamic persuasion, they’ll convince themselves that the Catholic Church is in cahoots with the Muslims to exterminate all evangelical Protestants (well, Bible-thumping evangelical Protestants).

421 thedopefishlives  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:25:02pm

re: #404 Varek Raith

It was about 10 tons and was going 33,000mph when it hit the atmosphere.
Not much left after that encounter.

Guess it’s a good thing the Apollo spacecraft were built a little sturdier than our rocky friend here.

422 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:26:33pm

re: #420 Dr Lizardo

they’ll convince themselves that the Catholic Church is in cahoots with the Muslims to exterminate all evangelical Protestants (well, Bible-thumping evangelical Protestants).

Some already do that

Some won’t even let Catholics into their private “Christian” schools

Again so ,,,,??

423 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:28:30pm

re: #422 sattv4u2


they’ll convince themselves that the Catholic Church is in cahoots with the Muslims to exterminate all evangelical Protestants (well, Bible-thumping evangelical Protestants).

Some already do that

Some won’t even let Catholics into their private “Christian” schools

Again so ,,,,??

Fair enough. I’m just thinking it’ll ratchet up the wingnut insanity even further. The whole “seekrit Moozlim” thing.

424 EPR-radar  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:28:32pm

re: #418 dragonath

It’s disheartening to see areas that were moderately red in 2000 were psychotically so in 2012.

Interestingly enough, the only exceptions to this are the upper-Midwest and the Northeast. There’s a lot more local media in those areas, I think that has something to do with that.

Interesting maps. IMO, this rabid fervor is why the Republicans presently have a disadvantage in the electoral college relative to the popular vote (i.e., easier for the GOP to get over 50% of popular vote than to win the EC). There’s a lot of 90+% GOP counties out there, and the total number of votes there must be much larger than the few urban precincts with no Romney votes that got all the press.

425 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:29:16pm

re: #423 Dr Lizardo

Fair enough. I’m just thinking it’ll ratchet up the wingnut insanity even further. The whole “seekrit Moozlim” thing.

{yawn}

426 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:29:49pm

Darthstar posted the best one of the day upstairs.

427 CuriousLurker  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:33:42pm

re: #426 FemNaziBitch

The link on your CDC/contraceptives Page is broken.

BTW, since you’re always doing Pages on women’s rights, I ran across this the other day and saved it especially for you, heh:

428 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:41:03pm

re: #427 CuriousLurker

The link on your CDC/contraceptives Page is broken.

BTW, since you’re always doing Pages on women’s rights, I ran across this the other day and saved it especially for you, heh:

[Embedded content]

I wouldn’t be humiliated, I’d be pissed-off.

MF who did that better sleep elsewhere.

429 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:44:25pm

linky fixed

430 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:46:19pm

re: #427 CuriousLurker

The link on your CDC/contraceptives Page is broken.

BTW, since you’re always doing Pages on women’s rights, I ran across this the other day and saved it especially for you, heh:

[Embedded content]

I hope you page this.

431 CuriousLurker  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:47:08pm

re: #430 FemNaziBitch

I hope you page this.

You read my mind—I’m doing it right now. ;)

432 sattv4u2  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:48:46pm

re: #431 CuriousLurker

You read my mind—I’m doing it right now. ;)

Short story!?!?

//

433 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:50:28pm

re: #400 Varek Raith

[Link: media.talkingpointsmemo.com…]

More here:

[Link: rt.com…]

434 makeitstop  Fri, Feb 15, 2013 4:19:35pm

re: #415 sattv4u2

It is? They weren’t too thrilled with the last two Repub candidates for Pres, so I guess they didn’t “pander” hard enough!!

Not conservative enough.

/half


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